I just struck solid ground in my voice recordings.

I hit solid ground while digging, not just superficial adding 1 to the fixed stars level and adding 1 to level 8 to say that level 9 is above Fate.

All of that relatively makes no substantive change.

Rather, the Big Problem for Hanegraaff book Hermetic Spirituality is that:

I do NOT also add 1 to “what level does rebirth occur in?”

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I am NOT editing that aspect of his book.

I am editing his book to add 1 to the fixed stars to put them at level 8, and I am adding 1 to the level which is above Fate, so it is level 9 not level 8 which is above Fate.

Where the enormous change comes in is that I do NOT add 1 to the level at which rebirth occurs!!

I agree and I retain that aspect of his cosmos numbering, that indeed rebirth happens from level 7 into level 8, per Erik Davis’ book Led Zeppelin IV, pages 118 & 122 about the song Stairway to Heaven & the Egodeath theory.

We are reborn INTO Fate, we are not reborn out from fate!! Except in a subsequent minor sense.

We hear the song of level 9 after we sacrifice the freewill premise that “I control the source of my control-thoughts” and have fully settled in Fate-compliance in level 8.

The Saturn gate is the threatening of child thinking; ego death is surrender to the uncontrollable source of control-thoughts, then the mind is reborn into Fate, level 8.

This is what is devastating to his book.

And thus I have discovered what forced Hanegraaf to be irrational and what forced him to misuse the entire set of lexicon of star-related words, why he was forced to torture and misuse all of these words and aggravate his readers by misusing all of these words about stars/ constellations/ zodiac/ cosmos/ hypercosmic and any words like those.

Because if he allows the fixed stars to be at level 8 and if he says level 9 is the level which is above fate BUT when doing so, he keeps rebirth positioned between level 7 and 8 — which the texts force him to do — that means bad news for him:

We are reborn into Fate-reverence, rather than being reborn into the level above Fate.

We sacrifice in reverent honoring of Fate.

Admit it, recognize your gnostic cosmos-hating attitude Hanegraaff, pull FATE/HEIMARMENE/eternalism back out of your Rejected wastebasket, Hanegraaff.

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This book is a misguided and deluded egoic attempt to place Fate below and prior to rebirth, when in fact Fate-consciousness is after and higher than ego death/ rebirth.

His unstable, malformed, upside-down, unscientific, irrational, non-standard cosmos model, and his alien cosmic lexicon, results from his trying to force Fate to be lower than rebirth.

Integrate Heimarmene

Higher levels/layers contain the lower, or “overlapping”, or enfolding per onion layers.

The Source is nondual, identified with heimarmene. If you reverence the Source, you must reverence heimarmene.

We grow upwards like a tree into higher levels, or like Maslow’s hierarchy.

We add higher levels and we per Wilber tend to exclusively identify with those newer, higher developmental levels, yet the lower levels remain our foundation which we must affirm and keep strong.

Wouter Hanegraaff needs to recognize, as he kind of does, that the Hermetic writers firmly assert that Fate remains real and affects the body even of the wise initiates.

WH states repeatedly that the Hermetic texts say that even the wise, completed initiates remain forever subject to the rule of Fate.

And Hanegraaff says to reverence the Source of all that exists.

Yet he represses/ demonizes/ dissociates from Fate, he wants to hate and deny its reality, he seems a little stuck or flummoxed:

Why do the Hermetic writers keep insisting that Fate is real and continues to rule the body even of the initiates?

Hanegraaff wishes to totally demonize Fate, but he should be reverent toward it.

(Fate = heimarmene, eternalism, no-free-will, non-branching; preexisting control thoughts; you don’t control the source of your control-thoughts.)

Hanegraaff emphasizes positive attitudes toward cosmos, body, matter, and nature, yet, he really cusses-out Fate/Heimarmene as “infection, contamination, impurity, pollution, delusion” – while claiming that the Hermetic/Gnostic view isn’t anti-cosmos.

Hanegraaff, you might not demonize the cosmos, but you sure fall headlong into the mythic stylized theme/analogy of {demonizing heimarmene/Fate}! Which you outright EQUATE with the cosmos.

What Wouter says, and what he claims that the Hermetic/Gnostic writers say:

I love the cosmos.
The cosmos is heimarmene.
I hate heimarmene.

The Hermetic/Gnostic writers sure don’t seem to “embrace and include and integrate” Fate/ heimarmene, a la Ken Wilber.

The Hermetic/Gnostic writers are taking poetic license in their railing against heimarmene; WH fails to grasp how much they love/hate/ reverence Fate even while they rail against it.

Their stance is too complex/advanced for him, and he misreads it as a purely negative stance that the Hermetists have.

Hanegraaff needs to integrate the lower levels in the higher – but his Hermetic text writers themselves don’t seem to positively integrate Fate/heimarmene.

His book works hard to argue that they have a positive mental attitude, non-dualistic… yet they sure strike a tone of dualistic hating on that damned evil accursed Heimarmene.

No wonder WH assumes “No way can Hermetic writers be saying that you’re reborn into the reality & reverence of Fate/heimarmene.”

Much fault is on the part of the Hermetic writers themselves, for taking too negative a view against Fate, while yammering about how one must reverence the Source of all that really exists.

So, we have slightly egoic and dualistic world-hating (heimarmene-hating) Hermetic writers, misread by the fully egoic Hanegraaff as if they are full-on heimarmene haters – while he defends them as “totally not anti-cosmos”.

Hanegraaff’s failure to integrate the lower levels, is actually, he’s picked it up from the Hermetic writers themselves, who poetically play with the themes / analogies, “hatred of cosmic heimarmene”.

We must consider the Hermetic/Gnostic writers as mentally garbled or less than ideal: inspired yet hardly the model of integrated levels of psychospiritual development.

They got confused in their own overly mythopoetic basis of thinking, confusing, far analogies. Their advanced-stage negativity toward the revelation of heimarmene made them as if “soured on real, mystic-revelation religion”.

The attitude of Late Antiquity:

“Mystic revelation sucks! It’s a bunch of damned mentally imprisoning eternalism/heimarmene!

“What god can save us from the evil downside of the Egodeath theory revelation?!

“Mithras, save us from Helios, the demiurgic god of revealed heimarmene-prison.”

See book The Gnostic New Age by April D. DeConick, about deliberate advanced-level inversion of mystic/mythic analogies, Crowleyan inversion of analogies to make radical statements, post- mystic enlightenment.

Hermetic/Gnostic writers might tell Hanegraaff “Actually, mystic rebirth into the revelation of heimarmene kind of sucks! That’s why we’re theming a negative inverted valuation of Fate in our myth system.

“We actually are — as our critics say — anti-cosmos, in that we really are anti-heimarmene.” See Luther H. Martin, see April D. DeConick.

They all need to better integrate lower levels, as cheerleader Hanegraaff is trying to argue that they do.

So we must not be limited to Hanegraaff, and especially we must beware of being limited to the attitude of the writers of Late Antiquity.

Luther H. Martin (Studies in Hellenistic Religions, 2018) traces the increasingly sour attitude, shared in the culture at large, against Fate.

Everyone believed in “heimarmene as prison”, and increasingly resented and railed against eternalism/Fate/ heimarmene, even though they knew that mystic-state rebirth is into the revelation of the power of heimarmene, and that rebirth is into reverent compliance with frozen-rock eternalism / heimarmene/ fate.

They were experientially sophisticated enough to understandably Hate Fate, while believing in it, but they are too advanced for Hanegraaff and he just doesn’t understand what the revelation of fate, rebirth into it, is about, so he can’t imagine that rebirth was understood by Late Antiquity as “rebirth into revelation of heimarmene”.

That was the problem of the day, far from Ken Wilber’s call to healthily integrate the lower levels into the higher levels.

Since we are only now discovering the revelation of heimarmene, it is easier for us to understand the less advanced mythology attitudes of early antiquity. The album Ride the Lightning kind of rails against heimarmene; Cliff Burton could explain the post-enlightenment attitude of the Hermetic/Gnostic writers who played with the analogies of “demonize heimarmene” though they knew that rebirth is into the revelation of heimarmene.

Late Antiquity’s religious mythology emphasized often the negative side of the altered-state heimarmene revelation, like my dwelling on ego death and control seizure instead of wonderful, non-duality, pollyanna, Martin Ball-eqsue forget-the-shadow positivity.

I developed this idea in today’s voice recording, August 24, 2022, the Egodeath Mystery Show, which is — of necessity in this field — a comedy show.

Make way in the Scholarly Fail-Quotes Hall of Shame, yet more incoming! https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/12/04/scholarly-fail-quotes-hall-of-shame/

More Comic/Cosmic Fodder for the Egodeath Mystery Show

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Joke’s on him – Hanegraaafff thinks the initiator Hermes is exorcising the heimarmene delusion from the initiate Tat – but actually, he is exorcising the freewill delusion that is bedeviling his control stability in the “alternate state of consciousness”, I’m sure on Hanegraaff’s finest high-potency batch of non-drug entheogens.

Hanegraaff calls for avoiding making mythology the foundation of your academic scholarly approach to history of esotericism, as the Religionism approach does; we must instead make scientific history our foundation – yet then he proceeds to construct a cosmos model that places the fixed stars at cosmic planetary level 7, and claims that cosmic level 8 is above heimarmene, blithely oblivious to his contradicting every astronomer and mystic cosmos author ever.

Yaldagate

John Lash obsequiously worships the most radioactive fake actor in the world, Wasson our god and savior who is the inventor and source of entheogens and who owns any and all ideas ever about religious use of fungi and plants and chemicals.

Any theories at all concerning religious use of plants are derivative variants of Wasson’s theory, including considerable, complete departures that are, still, based in the Wasson theory.

John Lash tells us we must not be mythmakers, but must take up and faithfully carry forward existing myths to sustain their integrity – and then concocts a clueless false assertion that Yaldaboth is a reptile-headed lion.

The Yaldaboth malformed monster is, in fact, a lion-headed serpent.

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Citation fkking needed!!

I looked up what I had assumed to be a citation in Hermetic texts CH I 25 to back up Hanegraaff’s wildly nonstandard cosmos model – and this Hermetic text just speaks vaguely of rising through 7 zones to reach the 8th zone whereupon he received gnosis through power, and the cited text came as far as possible from corroborating him — Hanegraaff made up this whole unstable cosmos out of his own historians’ imagination!

Typical; contravening his own directives to “base the field of academic history of Esotericism on a scientific foundation, not on religious mythology”.

Read a Science book, Hanegraaff: may I suggest Ulansey: https://www.amazon.com/Origins-Mithraic-Mysteries-Cosmology-Salvation/dp/0195067886/

When Hanegraaff lowered rung 8 of Mithras’ ladder, the sphere of the fixed stars, to fasten it to the top of rung 7, the Saturn planetary moving sphere, the fixed stars shattered and disintegrated in just two days, destroying the stairway to heaven.

How to Build a Universe That Doesn’t Fall Apart Two Days Later

1978 speech from the anthology The Shifting Realities of Philip K. Dick: Selected Literary and Philosophical Writings (1995).

Vialgate

The appropriate “take” and response and stance in reaction to Hanegraaff’s cosmos that’s a sizable portion of his book is the same as my eventual take on Brown’s throwing the St. Walburga Amanita vial tapestry in the river to show what a discerning model of discernment he is, claiming that its serrated base indicates it doesn’t match biology specimens: vialgate; faceplant; instant total loss of credibility as a judge.

This inexcusable elementary botanical identification error by both Brown and Brown tanked their whole theory; the Browns bet their theory against Jan Irvin on this vial — and lost, with me referring to “the failed Brown & Brown Psychedelic Gospels Theory v1.0”.

You have forfeited the Psychedelic Gospels theory; now it is in our hands — the Ardent Advocates — to correctly formulate the Psychedelic Gospels theory v2.0.

Brown and Brown double-biffed it royally, total faceplanted, forfeited, fumbled the ball; I picked it up and ran it to the goal.

Hanegraaff is Brown redux; this is not confident impressive bravado, but rather, devastating folly.

Learned, learned

The vial in the tapestry has serrations, unlike botanical specimens, therefore the tapestry that we proudly highlight in our book’s and article’s galleries of evidence proving mushrooms in Christian art is not a mushroom and this tapestry is not entheogenic, as over-ardent advocates Irvin & Rush rashly and uncritically claim — look at us, models of sharp discernment, Hatsis the anti-mushroom psychedelic witch; please give us affirmation now.

Amanita is the answer and solution to explain all mysteries, by Carl “Never Tried It” Amanita Promoter Ruck – gee, whiz, look at that giant mushroom! 😲

Lettergate

Egodeath Mystery Show began with a comedy piece about Eleusis and about the Panofsky Process to develop mushroom trees into pine trees to solve the art historians’ big problem.

Getting into the Panofsky headspace/ academics’ clown suit.

In my 2006 Plaincourault article, in 2019 by Browns’ article of the same title as mine, I was proven completely correct in claiming that Wasson must have withheld scholarly citations that Panofsky had to have provided to Wasson along with Panofsky’s massive claim to Wasson that art historians were thoroughly familiar with mushroom trees in Christian art.

WHERES THE GODDAM CITATION, WASSON; CITATION FKKING NEEDED!

The Artists Would Have Omitted the Branches Altogether

For the trees that we art historians say look just like mushrooms to at all look like mushrooms, the medieval nonrealistic-art artist would have had to casually burn/ ignore/ discard/ trashcan the templates without a second thought, that I just two seconds ago said that they are a fully beholden slave to, and go out into nature and draw a botanically accurate mushroom scientific illustration; the artist would have had to omit the branching ramifications.

the most influential art historian, Erwin Panofsky, regarding the countless branching-message mushroom trees in Christian art, in his PAIR(!!) of letters to Wasson, May 1952

Wasson, impeder of scholarly inquiry; censor and suppressor of citations, exactly as I accuse him of in my 2006 Plaincouralt article.

WHERES THE 🤬 CITATION, WASSON?!?! Cough it up, jerk, phony, fraud! https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/12/11/brinckmann-mushroom-trees-asymmetrical-branching/

Brinckmann, Mushroom Trees, & Asymmetrical Branching

Comments on Postings Near Aug 24 2022

YOU DON’T CONTROL YOUR SOURCE OF CONTROL-THOUGHTS.

The point of mythic analogies, religious mythology:

I need to compensate for scholars losing their way in mythology analogies and irrelevant spins on entheogens by putting extra-strong, very pointed emphasis on non-control, and why it is of the essence, and the real meaning the experience meaning of fatedness in the heimarmene-revealing altered state – and fixed stars is referring specifically to that.

By Hanegraaff’s book Hermetic Spirituality messing with the placement of the fixed stars relative to the rebirth experience, he is unknowingly messing around with the actual referent of mythic analogies, which is:

the model of what the mind’s transformative experiential trajectory is in the altered state.

That’s what we’re actually talking about and referring to when we interpret religious myth, so that needs to be our primary point of reference and orientation, not myth and its confusing play based in analogies.

In the intense mystic altered state, what is revealed most of all, above all, is timeless fate, block-universe no free will; non-branching possibilities.

YOU DON’T CONTROL THE SOURCE OF YOUR CONTROL-THOUGHTS.

That point what all this central focusing on “heimarmene” is actually all about, and that point is what we need to be explicitly and frequently centering the interpretation and discussion in terms of.

To really focus on the central point: it is revealed that you are not in control of the source of your control thoughts.

Experiencing this point is the experience of ego death, {exorcizing the demon} of possibilism-thinking.

All of this analogy is really about that and nothing else, and we need to get that straight and then tell our analogy stories built coherently around that.

This is the meaning of the fixed stars and where they fit in our trajectory of mental transformation process development process of moving from the first world model to the second world model, which is analogically mapped to the fixed stars.

And then later, we talk about “transcending” that – but only in a certain limited, orderly, controlled and narrowly specified sense, transcending fate – which means transcending the revelation that you do not control the source of your control-thoughts.

The freewill egoic premise is fully shut out in this defined “liberation from Fate” or however you market and spin it.

That is the central point, the central altered-state revelation that is mapped to the central level: the most important, main, central level is the fixed stars.

That (representing control power stability) is the central point of reference.

So you need to be sensible in where are you place that: and that is the eighth level, as everybody held – especially in Egypt, especially at that time.

Hanegraaff has gotten lost in late antiquity’s complex poetic ironic talk about “transcending”, and he has gotten lost about visionary plants and he needs to do a reality check back in, that we are talking about what are the effects of the plants on the mental model regarding control power, and then how do we map that to analogy centered around the stars – which means of course the real stars, not his fake, confused planet “stars”.

I had a vision from God or one of Hanegraaff’s daimons: like often with academics, Hanegraaff is more likely not writing out of masterful contrarianism, but out of mere ignorance building preposterous sky castles without realizing that the result flies in the face of David Ulansey’s established standard cosmology model.

Hanegraaff simply doesn’t realize that his proposal is contradicted by the standard cosmology per Eudoxus, Hipparchus, & Ptolemy (regarding that the fixed stars define the 8th cosmic level) and Christians, Mithraists, Hermetists/Theurgists, and Gnostics (and Ulansey, myself, and Erik Davis) (regarding that the 8th cosmic level is heimarmene).

He has shed much light, but there remains much darkness within the backwards underworld of academia where they are filled with superstition and taboos.

This morning I proved that he is making his radical assertions out of mere complete ignorance, rather than out of some kind of a masterful transcendent bravado.

He simply does not realize that what he’s proposing contradicts literally everybody.

And so the situation is not that I am debating against a master of the subject, but rather, I am teaching a rank newbie the basics.

Hanegraaff needs to read David Ulansey’s book and hypercosmic articles.

I proved that Hanegraaff is writing out of pure mere ignorance.

The proof that he asserts his malformed and unscientific cosmos model out of mere ignorance is the fact that he never shows any evidence of realizing that what he’s proposing is completely non-standard, regarding effectively placing fixed stars at planet level seven, and then declaring level eight to be above cosmic heimarmene.

I will be making superficial corrections of this set of errors that he makes, but the deeper error is his too negative attitude towards heimarmene, which will produce control seizure/ instability.

We must surrender to heimarmene (God’s divine creation) in order to have control stability in the altered state.

And then after getting right with cosmic heimarmene/ block-universe determinism/ non-control of our source of control-thoughts, then we can slightly transcend heimarmene after that.

He needs to say level nine is above heimarmene, not level 8.

The fixed stars go in level 8 per the standard model. Wouter Hanegraaff needs to reference David Ulansey.

or later, …

Ultra-Transcendent Overthrow of the Tyrannical Oppression That Is Iron-Prison Block-Universe Eternalism

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Contents:

• The Main Point of Reference for Interpretation; the Main Referent of Myth: Non-Control of Your Control-Source
• 2-Level Model of Mental Development per the Egodeath Theory
• 3-Level Model of Mental Development per the Egodeath Theory
• Depictions of the 2-Level and 3-Level Models
• Contrasting 2-Level vs. 3-Level Models
• The Pre/Trans Fallacy: Naive Possibilism-Thinking vs. Qualified Possibilism-Thinking
• Contrasting Carvings: 2-Level vs. 3-Level
• Timeline Dates of Geocentric Cosmology – 2-Level & 3-Level Versions
• Discussion
• Altar Worshipping Serpent God
• Metaphysics of Time
• Hanegraaff’s ‘Rejected’ Wastebasket
• Erik Davis: Stairway to Heaven, per the Egodeath Theory & 2-Level Geocentric Cosmology

The Main Point of Reference for Interpretation; the Main Referent of Myth: Non-Control of Your Control-Source

The main point of myth is:

The loose cognitive state reveals that you don’t control the source and origin of your control-thoughts.

This is the point of {the sphere of the fixed stars}, level 8; the Ogdoad, in astral ascent mysticism.

Cybermonk

Reality check, point of reference: what these mythemes ultimately are modelling and expressing and discussing:

The loose cognitive state reveals that you don’t control the source and origin of your control-thoughts.

“TRANSCEND HEIMARMENE” ALL YOU WANT – THAT DOESN’T CHANGE THE BASIC REVEALED CONSTRAINT, THAT YOU DON’T CONTROL YOUR CONTROL-SOURCE.

2-Level Model of Mental Development per the Egodeath Theory

2) eternalism-thinking (= cosmic level 8)

1) possibilism-thinking (= cosmic level 0)

3-Level Model of Mental Development per the Egodeath Theory

3) qualified possibilism-thinking (= cosmic level 9)

2) basic eternalism-thinking (= cosmic level 8)

1) naive possibilism-thinking (= cosmic level 0)

Depictions of the 2-Level and 3-Level Models

The simple 2-level model vs. the confusing, advanced, 3-level model.

Dumb + smart guy = the 2-level model – focuses on the basic contrast between the two models of control, time, and possibility-branching.

No-limb guy-pair = the 3-level model – focuses on qualified possibilism-thinking.

The mushroom tree and the bulk of the entire image focuses on the basic 2-level model, out of practical necessity.

The image also caters to advanced discussions which require understanding the 2-level model as a prerequisite.

2-level basic contrast. Viable self-control in loosecog requires eternalism-thinking; depicted via non-branching.

The above scene is an example of worshipping or focusing on and asserting eternalism rather than rhetorical emphasis on worshipping transcending eternalism.

The latter can sound like a denial that eternalism is the case; such a denial produces control instability by defaulting to the freewill-premised attempt to make control agency cross the Hofstadter levels.

Any way in which we “transcend” eternalism must affirm, not deny, that eternalism is the case.

Wouter Hanegraaff’s Hermetic texts do not deny that eternalism is the case, they assert eternalism and they rhetorically aspire to, in some compatible senses, “transcend” (while yet affirming) block-universe eternalism.

The ultimate point and constraint is: you don’t control the source of your control thoughts – regardless of advanced, confusing rhetorical claims and aspirations of “transcending fate”.

The Pre/Trans Fallacy: Naive Possibilism-Thinking vs. Qualified Possibilism-Thinking

The pre/trans fallacy is hearing advanced sophisticated rhetoric of “transcending fate” by “rising above the 8th level”, and gleefully thinking like Hanegraaff seems to, “a way to make heimarmene not apply to me!” or “a way to make Heimarmene not be the case!”

The advanced initiate’s “freedom from eternalism” is NOT naive possibilism-thinking; it is very different: qualified possibilism-thinking.

“TRANSCEND HEIMARMENE” ALL YOU WANT – THAT DOESN’T CHANGE THE BASIC REVEALED CONSTRAINT, THAT YOU DON’T CONTROL YOUR CONTROL-SOURCE.

To claim otherwise is the essence of {irreverence toward the Source}, and is correctively punished by control instability in the loose cognitive association state.

Links are at top section of my article:
Proof that the Canterbury Psalter’s Leg-Hanging Mushroom Tree Is Psilocybe

Contrasting 2-Level vs. 3-Level Models

2-Level

150 BC: 2-level system. Transcendent Knowledge = eternalism/ heimarmene/ fatedness/ block-universe determinism.

The emphasized goal is to reach level 8 (fixed stars, eternalism-thinking).

3-Level

150 AD – 3-level system: Transcendent Knowledge = transcending eternalism / heimarmene/fatedness/ block-universe determinism.

The (mainly rhetorically) emphasized goal is to rise above level 8 to level 9 (the Ennead, the Empyrian, outside the fixed stars seeing zodiac images from outside, qualified possibilism-thinking).

Per David Ulansey: looking at the celestial asphere covered with zodiac images implies you are outside of block-universe eternalism, outside the Fate-ruled cosmos in the Empyrian.

Contrasting Carvings: 2-level vs. 3-level

Envisioning heimarmene:
150 BC: Worship Snake Carved on Rock Altar

Envisioning transcending heimarmene:
150 AD: Worship Lion Torch Born from Snake-Wrapped Rock

Timeline Dates of Geocentric Cosmology – 2-level & 3-level versions

4th C BC – Eudoxus creates geocentric cosmology with 7 planets and the 8th level of the stars

2nd C BC – Hipparchus discovers precession of the equinoxes (wobble of earth’s axis of rotation)

2nd C AD – Ptolemy formalizes mathematically the geocentric cosmology

1989 – David Ulansey book Mithraism cosmology & hypercosmic online articles http://www.mysterium.com
http://www.mysterium.com/mithras.html – book summary

2003 – Cybermonk posts posting summarizing Ulansey’s precession/ transcendent cosmology mapped to a 3-level expression of the Egodeath theory

2005 – Erik Davis combines 2-level 1997 expression of the Egodeath theory with Cybermonk 2003 posting summarizing Ulansey’s precession/ transcendent cosmology to create a 2-level simplified potent astral ascent cosmology.

2022 – Wouter Hanegraaff deletes the stars from the 8th level that they had defined, and then moves the empty slot #8 fused up to the level 9 that was defined as being above it so as to transcend heimarmene/ fatedness/ eternalism. Discards the heimarmene-stars into his Rejected wastebasket & evil/repressed Saturn level, which is ruled by negative energies/ psychological traits.

Discussion

Ancients progressed from worshipping eternalism to worshipping the transcendence of eternalism.

The claim to “transcend eternalism” is largely advanced confusing (misleading) mystical rhetoric, per competitive b.s. marketing & wishful thinking & language-game magic, inventing the freewill fog machine of complex double-talk theology.

FIRST fully understand/comprehend early antiquity’s 2-level worship of eternalism.

THEN, distinctly from that, understand the twists from adding a relatively negative valuation to eternalism which was previously equated with mystic Truth enlightenment.

See my 2006 main article’s section:
Transcending Determinism Requires Two Jumps
https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/the-entheogen-theory-of-religion-and-ego-death-2006-main-article/#Transcending-Determinism-Requires-Two-Jumps

Mithras’ Mushroom Ladder to Heaven Beyond the Stars Where Your Soul Is Left Behind by Your Spirit.

The fixed-stars level is the main point of reference, yet Hanegraaff is unable to at all discuss the fixed stars in his theurgy cosmology model despite all his attention to “the Ogdoad” – why does he pretend like Ogdoad is something other than the fixed stars?

Hanegraaff and I agree that the center of concern is heimarmene, which I define and explain as referring to the transformative revelation of block-universe no-free-will; most ultimately and to the point, the loose cognitive state discovery that you don’t control the source and origin of your control-thoughts.

Elaborated 10-level system, note that the key point of reference is the fixed stars as level 8, regardless how many levels breakout above that.

Threatened and purified by the threat of egodeath seizure, rescued by creator, the source of control thoughts. pulled out from the jaws of the threat of control-loss cybernetic instability death demonstration.

Isn’t this image by Eadwine?

You are BOTH:
1) Rescued from resisting heimarmene by the revelation of heimarmene (considered positive) and fully grasping it.
2) Rescued from heimarmene (now considered negative) to be born out from the heimarmene-threat; lifted above fateness – or lifted out of the threatening aspect of fatedness by being given reconciliation with the omnipotence of the source of your control thoughts in relation to “you” the local control agent on the other side of the boundary/level/ control system domain limit.

Lazarus is pulled forth from the rock tomb of block-universe determinism control seizure demonstration that purifies and removes pollution of egoic naive freewill thinking – psilocybin(-type cave drumming meditation under Zen Master Brad) reveals and demonstrates that you are not the source of your control-thoughts.

The higher, god-possesed mind in the psilocybin(-type cave drumming meditation under Zen Master Brad) altered state threatens and demonstrates vulnerability of lower, egoic freewill-premised thinking.

Leontocephic figure: body wrapped in heimarmene serpent, torso above it, holds hypercosmic key, torch, and scepter.

Entheogens Reveal Heimarmene in the Ogdoad – return to baseline tightcog = qualified possibilism-thinking = the Ennead level 9 outside the fate-ruled, heimarmene-controlled cosmos of block-universe determinism.

Let’s check in on what i’m doing on November 29, 2013.

The open book is Joseph Campbell – Power of Myth.

OH SHT i must have two copies of 1000 faces now agghhh it happened again – MUST catalog my library!

Artiste credit Cybermonk around 1992, ink brush.

My ink nib Liberte worldline block-universe snake.

copy caption here

Today on Egodeath Mystery Show Aug 17 2022 or maybe yesterday I connected Ariadne’s garment = branching-thinking = left limb.

We now in the psyche-revealing state perceive branching thinking like a removed explicit layer of clothing that hid the non-branching spear/serpent reality of monopossibility due to pre-existing thoughts.

The main crux point is non-control – BUT, a main thing experience that produces the experience of non-control is block-universe determinism / eternalism-consciousness.

The layer of illusory egoic thinking initially covers the underlying reality, exposed by the psilocybin mushrooms in the hem folds in this Dionysus mosaic.

Altar Worshipping Serpent God

Future control-thoughts are revealed by psilocybin to be pre-existing and arranged as a snake-shaped worldline frozen in the rock block universe.

What would Hanegraaff say re: the claim to transcend heimarmene? This alter sacrifices to Eternalism, block-universe heimarmene, Fate, non-branching, no-free-will.

It’s hard to represent transcendent non-control experience in visual art, but you can represent the altered-state experience of non-branching stability and worldline/block universe eternalism (via the morphology mythemes {tree, snake, rock, column base}).

Metaphysics of Time

Snodfart’s Junior Academy – Encyclopedia of Philosophy online article: Philosophy of Time. https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/11/12/possibilism-vs-eternalism-2-models-of-time-and-control/

They are kinda dumb at that school: they fail to depict a tree under “tree model”, and they fail to show a worm/snake worldline despite all their yammering and schoolyard talk about “worm theory”.

🍄🔎🌳🐍

10-level standard cosmology with elaboration breakout of levels 9 and 10 as 9, 10, and 11. Key levels are 0, 8, 9. 0 = naive possibilism-thinking, 8 = basic eternalism-thinking, 9 = qualified possibilism-thinking. From a 2-level point of view/model, 0 = possibilism-thinking, 8 = eternalism-thinking. Elaborating the process of transition = levels 1-7. Elaborating the follow-through and return to tightcog/mundane daily life = levels 9-10 (or 9-11 in this diagram).

The cosmic heimarmene serpent is level 8.

By now, much of my thinking is slightly hard to cite citations now that I simply speak the conceptual language; “this is simply the standard usage/scheme” (shrug) and here’s what it refers to re: personal control revelation transformation.

Mithras, the god of transcending eternalism, makes a pact with Helios, the god of eternalism.

Hanegraaff’s ‘Rejected’ Wastebasket

The god of transcending eternalism makes pact with the god of eternalism – do not repress eternalism and get rid of heimarmene fixed stars level into the Rejected wastebasket like Hanegraaff’s project of book Hermetic Spirituality, the “thoroughly positive reading” of Theurgy Hermetic spirituality.*

*except for Heimarmene/fate; that’s unreal and a non-reasoning animal-like delusion. Get rid of your negative psychological traits that are associated with Heimarmene.

Hanegraaff the Hoodwinked by poet-mystics’ ironic inversions/ marketing literature.

You don’t get victory over the Fate-rulers torments by denying Fate, but rather, by sacrificing to Fate giving it due reverential honor same as you do the Source that Hanegraaff dualistically, dissociatively splits into “non-reasoning negative psychology traits associated with fate-rulers, vs. the great Source of all that exists.”

You don’t make peace with Fate by denying Fate is real; you make peace with Fate by affirming Fate’s power over your control-thoughts!

Cybermonk, against the Hanegraaff project

The ever-popular Freewill Fog project propelling eg Arminian Calvinism: 1) commit to propping up freewill egoic moral culpability premise. 2) claim to assert God’s omnipotence (but always limit that to not infringe on the most important thing, which is your moral project of propping up freewill moral agency, it’s your god-level duty to engineer and be the savior of freewill moral control power.

Abstruse complex theologies & moral-driven metaphysical philosophies are a giant project of saving freewill (the driving concern, the central god being worshipped) in the face of non-control and omnipotence and eternalism revelation.

(Wouter Hanegraaff:)

Be positive & enlightened like me: Embrace body, matter, nature, and cosmos 😊

– except for Heimarmene/Fatedness/ no-free-will; that’s a demon possessing you since birth, by the archon planet rulers, get rid of that pollution and impurity, as fervently as a world-hating Gnostic dualistically rejects & escapes out from the material world, escaping into the pure realm of spirit, so we must do away with & get rid of Heimarmene

What’s in Hanegraaff’s own Rejected wastebasket? lets take a look…

🌌->🗑

OMG IT’S FULL OF STARS!

Moment of inspiration for the idea behind this page:
The Study of Greek and Roman Religions: Insularity and Assimilation
by Roubekas:
“the academic study of religion cannot and should not be confessional.”

The Egodeath theory is cultic worship of eternalism, we worship & confess the rock-carved snake god, per Erik Davis’ 2005 book Led Zeppelin IV pp. 118-119 & 122. Per Luther H Martin’s 2018 book Studies in Hellenistic Religions, how did religion change using the Hipparchus’ discovery of precession of the equinoxes?

Mental picture of glorifying block-universe determinism vs. “being born from the snake-wrapped rock” per Ulansey’s interpretation. Note that only the lion’s head (not body) and torch are outside block-universe determinism.

Erik Davis: Stairway to Heaven, per the Egodeath Theory & 2-Level Geocentric Cosmology

Book:
Led Zeppelin IV
Erik Davis
2005
http://amzn.com/dp/0826416586/ –

Astral ascent 2-level possibilism to eternalism per the Egodeath theory – pp. 118-119 & 122 are regarding the song Stairway to Heaven.

David Ulansey – The Origins of the Mithraic Mysteries: Cosmology & Salvation in the Ancient World

This is a science book more than a spirituality book – provides a trustworthy foundation unlike the “scientific historian” Wouter Hanegraaff who struggles to prevent the fixed stars from being in the Ogdoad (8th sphere). Has Hanegraaff not read this book?

That’s quite possible, since as Luther H. Martin’s 2018 book (Studies in Hellenistic Religions) writes, scholars have disrespected Hellenistic-era religion and have been blind to astral ascent mysticism; spiritual ascent cosmology. Hanegraaff acts illiterate about theurgy when it comes to the fixed stars.

COOL! Amazon shows that I bought this book on February 16, 2001. The Egodeath Yahoo Group started June 2001. Posting #1 at the Egodeath Yahoo Group was 4 months after I read this book. Every posting at the Egodeath Yahoo Group is with the knowledge of this book.

https://www.amazon.com/Origins-Mithraic-Mysteries-Cosmology-Salvation/dp/0195067886 –

selected section of home page:

“My publications have focused on the ancient mystery religion of Mithraism. 

Summary of book: 
The Origins of the Mithraic Mysteries: Cosmology and Salvation in the Ancient World 
(Oxford University Press, revised paperback 1991) – here

Appendixes for the book:
“Those of you who have read the book in English may be interested in several important appendices written for a translation of the book.
here

Book: 
Mysteria: The Ancient Mysteries and the Evolution of Consciousness
Based on a series of lectures presented at the C.G. Jung Institute of San Francisco – here

Articles

The Mithraic Mysteries
published in Scientific American (December, 1989) – here

Mithras and the Hypercosmic Sun
here

The Eighth Gate: The Mithraic Lion-Headed Figure and the Platonic World-Soul
here

Cosmic symbolism in the Gospels
Journal of Biblical Literature – here

Cultural Transition and Spiritual Transformation: From Alexander the Great to Cyberspace
here

Errata

(bc i happen to be listening) – move to idea devmt page 14

• Ep212c of Egodeath Mystery Show – ~59:00 – I hesitantly said “Bertrand Russell”, but I think it’s actually Karl Popper who called Minkowski “Parmenides”.

Cognitive Science of Religion – A multidisciplinary approach that uses all perspectives, except for Cognitive Phenomenology (& Loose Cog Sci/ Multi-State Science)

Cybermonk

Exoteric studies of exoteric religion, who only perceive exoteric religion. Warning: when they say ‘religion’, they aren’t thinking what we think when we hear ‘religion’.

It’s like me saying the word “mushrooms”, meaning the Egodeath theory, but people instead hear me as saying “secret Amanita alchemy”.
THE MUSHROOM (picture Amanita emoji 🍄 😯)

Postings

https://egodeathyahoogroup.wordpress.com/2021/01/09/egodeath-yahoo-group-digest-164/#message8762 – 2016 – “I despise what passes for “theology”, as in, wretched books covering “Cognitive Science & Theology”, or “Cognitive Science of Religion”, where the author has never heard the word ‘mysticism’ and instead of religion (altered-state religious experiencing), covers theology.

“Such books are outsiders’, covering low CogSci vs. low Religion — not doing what they should, covering high CogSci vs. high Religion.”

Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_science_of_religion – “an approach based on ordinary cognition” <– there’s your problem

Searches

https://www.bing.com/search?q=cognitive+science+of+religion

https://www.google.com/search?q=cognitive+science+of+religion

Books

Do not read these books – better to project wishful thinking 😑 on them instead

😑

meditate with me: imagine & envision that this book/ attempted explanatory paradigm doesn’t suck

Amazon tells me I read this – musta blocked it out:

Cognitive Science, Religion, and Theology: From Human Minds to Divine Minds Templeton Science and Religion Series, 2011 https://www.amazon.com/Cognitive-Science-Religion-Theology-Templeton/dp/159947381X

The Cognitive Science of Religion (Van Slyke 2011)

The Cognitive Science of Religion
James Van Slyke
2011/2016

https://www.routledge.com/The-Cognitive-Science-of-Religion/Slyke/p/book/9781138278868

Book series: Scientific Studies of Religion: Inquiry and Explanation (23 books) – 2014-2021

TODO: copy blurbs

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B093Q53DQZ?binding=hardcover&qid=1660752588

The Cognitive Science of Religion: A Methodological Introduction to Key Empirical Studies

The Cognitive Science of Religion: A Methodological Introduction to Key Empirical Studies
(Scientific Studies of Religion: Inquiry and Explanation)
Jan 24, 2019

“The Cognitive Science of Religion introduces students to key empirical studies conducted over the past 25 years in this new and rapidly expanding field.

“In these studies, cognitive scientists of religion have applied the theories, findings and research tools of the cognitive sciences to understanding religious thought, behavior and social dynamics.

“Each chapter is written by a leading international scholar, and summarizes in non-technical language the original empirical study conducted by the scholar.

“No prior or statistical knowledge is presumed, and studies included range from the classic to the more recent and innovative cases.”

“Students will learn about the theories that cognitive scientists have employed to explain recurrent features of religiosity across cultures and historical eras, how scholars have tested those theories, and what the results of those tests have revealed and suggest.

“Written to be accessible to undergraduates, this provides a much-needed survey of empirical studies in the cognitive science of religion.”

Philosophical Foundations of the Cognitive Science of Religion: A Head Start

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1350030317 –

Philosophical Foundations of the Cognitive Science of Religion: A Head Start
2017

Scientific Studies of Religion: Inquiry and Explanation
Hardcover – September 7, 2017

“Robert N. McCauley and E. Thomas Lawson are considered the founders of the field of the cognitive science of religion.

Since its inception over twenty years ago, the cognitive science of religion has raised questions about the philosophical foundations and implications of such a scientific approach.

This volume from McCauley, including chapters co-authored by Lawson, is the first book-length project to focus on such questions, resulting in a compelling volume that addresses fundamental questions that any scholar of religion should ask [eg “On Psilocybin, do you control your source of thoughts?“].

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“The essays collected in this volume are those that initially defined this scientific field for the study of religion.

These essays deal with issues of methodology, reductionism, resistance to the scientific study of religion [compare “Psychedelic Science must omit mystic experiences”], and other criticisms that have been lodged against the cognitive science of religion.

The new final chapter sees McCauley reflect on developments in this field since its founding.

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“Tackling these debates head on and in one place for the first time, this volume belongs on the shelf of every researcher interested in this now established approach to the study of religion within a range of disciplines, including religious studies, philosophy, anthropology and the psychology of religion.”

The Mind of Mithraists

https://www.amazon.com/Mind-Mithraists-Historical-Scientific-Explanation/dp/1472584198 –

https://www.amazon.com/Roman-Mithras-Cult-Scientific-Explanation/dp/1472567412 –

The Study of Greek and Roman Religions: Insularity and Assimilation (Aug 11, 2022)

The Study of Greek and Roman Religions: Insularity and Assimilation (Scientific Studies of Religion: Inquiry and Explanation) (Aug 11, 2022)

by Nickolas P. Roubekas (Author) and 4 more 

“How should ancient religious ideas be approached? Is “religion” an applicable term to antiquity?

“Classicists, ancient historians, and religious studies scholars should work together.

“There is a disciplinary gap between the study of Greek and Roman religions and the study of “religion” as a category — a gap that has resulted in contradictory conclusions regarding Greek and Roman religion.

[Newage & Hermetic bookstores lack books on mystery religions – like Ptolemaic Astral Ascent Mysticism as Luther H. Martin points out, a major blind spot – cm]

“This book addresses this lack of interdisciplinarity by providing an overview, criticism, and assessment of this chasm.

“It provides a theoretical approach to this historical period, raising the issue of the relationship between “theory of religion” and “history of religion,” and explores how history influences theory and vice versa.

“It also presents an in-depth critique of some crucial problems[?specify] that have been central[?] to the discussions of scholars who work on Graeco-Roman antiquity, encouraging us to re-examine how we approach 🍄⚡️🌳🐍💎🐉 the study of ancient religions.”

Companion Show

Egodeath Mystery Show episode 211 – Entheogens Reveal Heimarmene in the Ogdoad (August 16, 2022)

Wouter Hanegraaff’s wastebasket of rejected knowledge:

🗑 OMG IT’S FULL OF STARS!! 🌌

I just recorded (Ep211 start) a really great analysis of how we need to embrace, include, and THEN transcend no free will, fatedness, heimarmene, that which Erik Davis’ book Led Zeppelin IV reports on page 118-119 & 122. Enlightenment is of no free will personal noncontrol or helpless dependence on the uncontrollable source of our control thinking

The Religious Texts Filtering Effect

Texts that are honest about Fate don’t get preserved; the texts that survive are exercises in having it both ways, obfuscationism to compromise between admitting no-free-will while asserting religious revelation while preserving – above all – egoic freewill-premised autonomous personal control power.

You have to assert the no-free-will truth while also appearing to assert its incompatible opposite: autonomous egoic culpability.

p280, Hermetic Spirituality, Hanegraaff argues “when the body dissolves, nous leaves soul to be judged, therefore, freewill is real”

me: in loosecog state, freewill-premised thinking is tested/ demonstrated/ disproved/ jusdged as incoherent and unstable and nonreasoning like animals/ children, therefore no-free-will”

anyway all of this employment of the words ‘body matters soul spirit’

it’s nothing but a giant shell game

you can’t fool me with evasive foolish perpetual motion machines & vague linguistic magic

I’m not gonna take seriously these language games of redefinition

we have three different definitions of soul

and 2 1/2 different definitions of ‘body’

and then hermes and Hanegraaff say there’s a spiritual body which is not subject to fate unlike the lower body which is

this is just a big bluff

you need to answer the damn question:

is the local control agent the source of its control thoughts?

the answer is no

this is revealed in the Psilocybin State

no matter how much you try to swing around and throw an obvious skate[?] with three different definitions of the word body

this is just games of language Obfuscation the trickery and magic cheap magic tricks redefining words

‘soul spirit I’

I am so sick of “explanations” that are pseudo-explanations that are crafted to be based in poetry ambiguity

we need a different lexicon, a lexicon that is designed to be unambiguous, not your lexicon, your bunk lexicon that is specifically designed to be as ambiguous as possible

I have zero interest in discussing body

I have zero interest in discussing soul

answer the damn question :

the local control agent is the source of its own control thoughts – true or false?

These abstract semantic abstractions that are designed to cloud the issue and hide and avoid looking at and avoid discussing the actual crux questions, instituting[?] by low grade analogies of low value substituting very distant analogies that are designed to be indirect and roundabout and give lots of opportunities for ego to hide in the shadows of semantic tricks, trickery and deception, misleading magic cheap magic tricks

I am God and I lift 1,000,000 pounds – all you have to do is merely redefine the meaning of words, such as the word “soul”, “body”, ‘Entheogens’ to mean its exact opposite

Congratulations you’ve won $$$&*

*simply redefine ‘you, won, & $’

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ‘SOUL’ UNLESS YOU DEFINE IT EXPLICITLY IN TERMS OF LOCAL CONTROL AGENCY

but your mystic poetry fog-blanket strategy is to avoid exactly that –

it is no coincidence that right at the most important points is where they use the language in the most unclear and waffling way , and suddenly pull out of their hat the claim all of a sudden, oh didn’t you know? –

there’s actually two different souls

is the spirit body

and the body soul

and then there’s the body spirit (lower & higher)

and we can just make up , multiply as needed as many made up terms, pulled out of our as- our magic hat, so that we can assert and deny no free will all at the same time, and then claim “it’s your fault for not understanding” our obfuscation torrent of dust clouds that we have raised to cover the fact and hide what we are actually doing

sick of vague terms used figuratively: “Only the spiritual body soul is subject to fate, but the higher soul body spirit is independent of fate”

what the fck are you saying

this is deliberately unclear wording

this is the deliberate employment and strategic leveraging of language that’s designed to promise big marketing promises and appease peoples’ wishful thinking – it’s all about avoiding communication

it’s a deliberate project of deliberately unclear communication, by leveraging inherently vague deliberately evasive ambiguous terms that shirk and avoid the relevant questions

it’s all a whole giant lexicon for the purpose of avoiding the question

it’s an avoidance strategy, all these vague re-definitions of ambiguous terms, which are employed and used and chosen and selected specifically because they can be used to deceive and double talk and pretend to say one thing while really believing something else,

to try to cast a spell with language trickery instead of doing what science does, which is make a sincere effort to be clear

this is why people love to talk on and on and write thousands of books saying how words cannot describe spiritual realization

what they really mean is that:

This goes along way towards explaining why doesn’t western esotericism come up with a clear explanation of transcendent knowledge?

We don’t like what’s revealed, so we’re going to obfuscate and hide it underneath thickets of obfuscation, because we don’t want to admit no free will, so we’re in a gigantic project

it’s a gigantic avoidance project of flirting with Transcendent Knowledge while trying to cover it up and deny it at the same time

Religion is a gigantic project of trying to sustain ego free willpower

that’s what reformed theology is

the main message of reformed systematic theology is this:

Freewill is the case and personal moral responsibility is the case

– even though we are going to simultaneously claim that we are righteously asserting God’s sovereignty and omnipotence

but our MAIN message and motive remains: prop up free will ego power moral culpability

reformed theology is a gigantic project of pretending to harmonize to incompatible assertions in order to prop up egoic free will power

reformed theology pretends to be asserting no free will

if you dare to assert honest clear language and say that “God is the author of evil” then you’re accused of being a hyper Calvinist and you need to get back in line asserting our double talk obfuscationist lying pretense which is all serving the Atman project purpose of asserting and propping up the pretense of ego work free will power

the project of theology and esotericism overall is to have it both ways, of trying to combine the lie of free will power with the truth of revealed no free will omnipotence of God

the whole thing is a project of trying to sneak the devil into heaven

Psilocybin Reveals Heimarmene in the Ogdoad

Actual entheogens are that which is effective at revealing who sits on the throne in level 8 – Hanegraaff says that’s the demiurge

and I remind him: the demiurge is identical with heimarmene; he is the ruler over the planet heimarmene rulers

the ruler over heimarmene

the ruler over the planetary rulers which he says in his book

Entheogens Reveal Heimarmene in the Ogdoad

Entheogens are that which Reveals Heimarmene in the Ogdoad

Hanegraaff, after rebirth from cosmic level 7, arriving up in the 8th cosmic level:

“At last, I have escaped the power of the fate-ruled seven stars, with their daimonic controllers! 😈 “

The Demiurge 👹 to Hanegraaff:

“Welcome, please enjoy the view – billions of stars!”

🌌 🌌 🌌

Dr H:

😱

A healthy attitude towards entheogens is a healthy attitude towards block universe determinism not the repression anti-cosmic attitude which is precisely the true reference of anti-Cosmic

the anti-cosmic attitude is precisely the mind’s innate anti-Fate attitude

if you are anti-fate, then by definition your anti-cosmos; you are a caricature of the Gnostic anti-cosmos attitude

Are gnostics anti-cosmos?

translation: are gnostics anti-Fate?

Hanegraaff are you anti-Fate? anti-Heimarmene? if so, then you are anti-cosmos! in the quintessential way.

you are anti-body

you’re anti-nature

you’re anti-matter

because all of those are poetry ambiguity that is trying to hide the fact that what we’re really talking about is not the body; we are really talking about Fate; no-free-will, block-universe determinism; the local control agent has no control over its uncontrollable source of control-thoughts

we’re not talking about your attitude against the cosmos; we are talking actually about your attitude against fate

review title:

Entheogens Reveal Heimarmene in the Ogdoad

Designed to make professor H shake in his shoes

👹 👻

psilocybin causes reveals and causes the correct effective kind of transcending of no free will/ heimarmene.

whatever he does in his poetry-based Esotericism-based reading his interpretation of exercising the demons the demons , whatever it is he’s doing in his value system that he reveals, it is telling and it is revealing that he removes the very stars from the heavens

he would pull down the constellations and remove the zodiac from the heavenly sphere from the eighth level sphere

of a round sphere the fact that

he even re-defined the word stars to eliminate the billions of stars and only leave us with only seven stars – the moving stars; the planets

this shows that he has an anti-Kosmik anti-matter anti-body anti-nature attitude

that he is repressing suppressing and dissociating from

he claims to be pro body he claims to integrate the body integrate nature integrate matter integrate matter in a healthy positive way with a positive mental attitude , but except for , he demonizes and he throws into trash rejected stars

let us look inside the Hanegraaff and trashcan of rejected things what has he placed in the 🗑<–🌌

what has Professor H placed into his own trashcan of rejected things

oh look here it is the stars

he has taken the zodiac he has taken the constellations he has taken the fixed stars, pulled them down out of the heavens and thrown them into his Rejected trashcan, because he knows, as he has said, they equal no free will, they equal determinism

note: voice dictation recognizes the word determinism , it does not recognize heimarmene

he tries to throw block universe determinism, which is the thing that is revealed by psilocybin

what is it that is revealed by psilocybin what do entheogens reveal?

they reveal precisely specifically block universe determinism

and he throws that in the trashcan of rejected things

he always talks about what other people have put what they put in their trashcan of rejected things

he says that scientific history must not make these value judgments but must accurately report the values and beliefs of people throughout history, but scientific history should not be driven by making value judgments about theology matters matters of theology matters of religious truth

it is not the business of academic scientific history department to make judgments about religious theology truth and merit based on assumptions about esoteric truth

we should be unbiased scientific researchers accurately reporting

He does not mean to say that it is bad to try to understand higher meaning

he is just saying that we should not make poetry ambiguity and ineffability the foundation of our scientific history study of the history of religions

and he himself has been misled because of the negative attitude and the ironic inversion of values which the poets who wrote the Hermetic texts, they write in a confusing way, because they themselves do in fact reject the cosmos, despite his book

his book asserts that gnostics are not world hating, but the problem is the entire world of late antiquity was world hating

that is to say let us get to the real point in the true referent

all of late antiquity had a bad negative attitude towards block universe determinism

And this comes forward in their negative values that they place on fate

the claim that gnostics held anti-fatism must be stopped, it is a malicious caricature??

gnostics were NOT anti-fate as academics (crypto protestant apologists) assert??

they had an unhealthy negative attitude to block universe determinism because the entire culture of late antiquity had revealed through Psilocybin block universe determinism , and they didn’t like it , and so everybody in the culture had a negative attitude towards block universe determinism

and this comes forward in the poetry ambiguity hazy false marketing and confusing poetry the Theurgy Hermetic Texts exude a bad attitude towards block universe determinism

and so it is no wonder the Hanegraaff while lecturing us about that we need to have a positive mental attitude about the body and nature and matter and the world the physical world

yet at the same time he follows the bad attitude that the Hermetic Texts exude and

he demonizes and throws into his rejected garbage can,

what does he place there?

he places the fixed stars the zodiac constellations, because as he says those are block universe determinism – fate

🚫🦶🦶

The whole of late antiquity was anti-FATE negative attitude

and he has picked this up and he prevents us from transcending no-free-will, because he refuses to embrace and include and transcend no free will

he refuses to affirm and sacrifice to block universe determinism

and he persists in having a negative attitude, which he picked up from the gnostics, and he picked it up from the theurgists, because they picked it up from the entire world of late antiquity

STOP HATING ON HEIMARMENE/ Eternalism; this is ANTI-COSMISM!

so he might try to make up excuses and say oh I don’t I’m not demonizing who me?

demonizing fate?

I would never demonize fate

he might try to argue but we have to look at his attitude does he or how far is he from having the right attitude what would be involved in correcting his bad attitude towards fate

when we take the difficult concept of what is the correct mixture of plus and minus attitudes when it comes to transcending the child or transcending something that’s revealed that we have mixed feelings

looked at Ken Wilber look to Ken Wilber what does it mean to transcend something

does it mean to destroy it ?

what exactly is the proper healthy attitude in order to transcend fate block universe determinism

and what exact specific attitude does Professor H demonstrate in his book

and what is the correct mixture of plus and minus attitudes that he needs to have and that we need to have

so his book raises the most important question:

what is the correct mix of attitudes when we talk about transcending block universe determinism

how far is his book from that

and we all need to come to grips with how do we have the correct feeling what is to be the correct

what must be our correct and healthy attitude I am an advocate of health and I am an advocate of the truth and I am an advocate of the truth about block universe determinism as the path to a healthy mental attitude

please explain the details of this and how unhealthy his professor H book in its treatment and trashcan rejection

he throws block universe determinism into the trashcan of rejected things even going so far

feeling

does it mean to destroy it

what exactly is the proper healthy attitude in order to transcend fate block universe determinism and what exact specific attitude does Professor H demonstrate in his book and what is the correct mixture of plus and minus attitudes that he needs to have and that we need to have

so his book raises the most important question what is the correct mix of attitudes when we talk about transcending block universe determinism how far is his book from that and we all need to come to grips with how do we have the correct feeling what is to be the correct feeling

He throws block universe determinism into the trashcan of rejected things even going so far as to remove the very stars from the sky to get rid of himourmoney from his precious level eight

I am an advocate of health

I am advocate of mental health

I am an attitude I am a proponent of positive mental attitude and mental health regarding block universe determinism

we must accommodate block universe determinism

we must embrace and include it and transcend it and affirm it

we must sacrifice to block universe determinism we must worship the serpent carved in rock the snake God must smoke the ego in sacrifice poetry haze of ambiguity evasion tactics go up in smoke incense psychoactive smoke

Representing the smoke of the false attitudes and negative attitudes must go up in smoke like the smuggling van made of cannabis

I am an advocate of the healthy mental positive attitude towards embracing and including and also transcending block universe determinism

how far where does Hannah Graff go wrong in his mixture of attitudes

he is entirely negative regarding fate fate

I can’t speak to his attitude about fate

does he have a healthy relationship with fate

does he embrace and include it or does he try to throw it in the rejected trashcan, the professor H trashcan of rejected things where he represses fate and suppresses fate and is dissociated from fate

I am a fervent proponent of healthy effective integration and transcending of fate

“embrace, include and then transcend” – do not repress and simply throw Fate in that rejected wastebasket as professor H tends to do

and he needs to make corrections on his positive and negative attitudes and demonization or shall I say in fake affectation like he writes his demonization of fate

“daimonization of fate” 😈😇

Companion Shows for This Posting

The present page is essentially a next-day summary product created after these Episode 209 voice recordings and of the Episode 210 recordings (210a-d) as well:

Egodeath Mystery Show, Episode 209 – Psilocybin Reveals Non-Control – https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/07/14/idea-development-page-14/#Egodeath-Mystery-Show-episode-209

Egodeath Mystery Show, Episode 210 – Free Will through Esoteric Obfuscation – https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/07/14/idea-development-page-14/#Egodeath-Mystery-Show-episode-210

exception: part Ep210e was recorded after the present posting.

voice dictation

wow that book review that I wrote back in 2022 really rocks makes me look like a fool now

It really ticks all the boxes:

it’s a short review

it has an accurate representation of what the book’s purposes are

what the book’s distinct approach is

which errors in the field of academic scholarship of religious history that the book corrects

how much progress the book makes towards comprehension of Theurgy

and then folded into that, the review points out the main weaknesses of the book

what is necessary to correct those errors?

first of all, put the damned fixed stars back in level 8, you thief!!

you can excuse him and say “such a cosmology model is not necessarily delusion, because it’s all just analogy anyway”

but it is telling

what is behind this theft?

what is his motivation?

why does he have a problem with the fixed stars being in late antiquity’s cosmology level 8?

this is the egoic control project of protecting its power.

He knows that if he allows the fixed stars to be in level 8, this would mean asserting the reality of Fate and heimarmene.

he says that level 8, 9 and 10 are confusing in contrast with level one through seven

He really needs to read David Ulansey’s book & hypercosmic online articles, and Davis’ Led Zeppelin IV pp. 118-119 & 122 simple clear Fate-based 2-level cosmology.

in level one through seven, he talks about rebirth, he talks about turmoil/ “torment” ; he talks about being possessed by the divine powers in order to get rid of the demonic powers

voice transcription intelligently wrote the word demonic instead of his fake word artificially positive word daimonic

Words to beware of and to write a correction mark next to in his book:

you must write a correction mark next to:

when he writes zodiac, write the number 8

when he writes heimarmeme, The number 8

when he writes stars, write 7&8

when he writes ‘entheogen’, write the word Psilocybin

when he writes rebirth, write the number “7 into 8”

helpfully say what readers must watch out for , the confusions and treacherous misleading confusions of his misusing words and his efforts at language reengineering

the resultant nonstdly redefined words meaning nothing and becoming useless and unusable , of no use

the word entheogen according to his redefinition has now become completely useless to me; I cannot use the word anymore in context of W esotericism

in his effort to advocate the word ‘entheogens’ by extremely broadening its definition to include its antonym and including all comers no questions asked, no qualifications required whatsoever, he has lowered the bar down into the gutter, so that literally anything –

I proved how a lamp and a car engine and a dishtowel are all entheogens, by using his ultra-lenient definition that misses the point entirely.

he essentially argues:

“x y z and other unknown[he literally wrote] methods can produce effects that can be designated as entheogenic”

why redefining entheogens / the word destroys it

…

the review is specifically very extremely on point

this review pinpoints exactly the crux of the matter of why we cannot claim the alleged “other methods” produce the specific effect that they must produce

this review is written such that there is no way that you can avoid the point (PSILOCYBIN REVEALS NONCONTROL) and change the subject

this review’s wording forces you to keep your eye on- it it takes your head and forces your head to look at the important point and by force it prevents you from looking away and changing the subject

it prevents the escape into poetry, which is the classic esoteric move , an avoidance strategy tactic by layering on protective layers of obfuscating poetry to try to cloud the issue and to try to be in denial of the truth and avoid the truth

so esotericism is another form of the Atman project: it pretends to be for the purpose of describing to Communicating truth, but actually it deliberately does so in a way that prevents and is designed to prevent communicating the truth about that:

the local control agent is not the source and origin and controller of its own personal control thinking.

thats a good title of a book review right there a good leading sentence a good concluding sentence of the book review right there poetry

slather on all the occluding

you want redefine the word soul, and keep slipping and sliding and ambiguously overloading the definition of the words ‘soul’, ‘body’, ‘matter’, ‘spirit’

shuffle shuffle those word-usage definitions, a shell game to try to sneak egoic freewill power into Heaven past the gate guard

it’s for the purpose of trying to sneak in the false assertion that the local control agent is its own source and origin of its personal control thinking

which is precisely what is revealed by psilocybin, not by your b.s. other methods, but by psilocybin advanced peak dosages used to its fullest adept usage

that is what reveals the truth that you’re trying to hide and obscure through the trick, the trickery of poetry, the trickery of a shell game of abstruse redefinition of terms every two minutes on every other page contradicting yourself for the purpose of removing heimarmene from level 8 in order to install egoic control power on the throne above the cosmos, above the realm that is governed by Fate

at least you do define the word ‘cosmos’, as meaning Saturn at the highest

the purpose of your remaining silent on the fixed stars is for the purpose of denying no free will, denying heimarmene.

The Hermetic text do not say that heimarmene is not the case; the opposite:

they say that you must sacrifice to it to appease it and to calm the storm that results from denying heimarmeme

just like you covertly silently remove the fixed stars and the zodiac and the real stars

the reader must know that he confusingly tries to confuse the reader by misusing the word the stars to mean 7 of them

ask him, demand of him when he writes the word ‘stars’ write the number next to it write “HEY HANEGRAAFF: How many stars are there?”

His answer is: there are only seven stars remaining, because I stole all the rest of them in my ego freewill project to remove the fixed stars, the billions and billions of stars,

I have swept them under the cosmic rug, swept under the cosmic rug, Hanegraaff’s cosmic rug of Saturn

who has stolen the stars, and where did they put them? and why?

the answer is: Hanegraaff, level seven, to deny the reality of heimarmene from his precious level 8 Ogdoad, my precious, so that he can imagine with his “Historians’ Imagination” he can imagine that we exorcise our belief in no free will when in fact the possessing god casts out the egoic freewill control premise

he thinks that we get rid of the belief in fatedness Fate, but in fact we get rid of our denial and resistance to fate

that is how we get rid of the torment, the turmoil , the control instability – not by eliminating our belief in fate, but instead the opposite: by eliminating our belief in free will ego Power.

Hermetic texts say that we sacrifice to the fate-controlling demons, we give them their due, we recognize them, we honor them, we are appease them

not that we deny that they are real

not that we deny that fate is the case governing over personal Control Thinking

Rewrite Book

and so one can only surmise and speculate what massive rewriting does Hanegraaff need to do to bring his cosmology model of mental development multi-state into a coherent form that accurately reflects both how the mind transforms and the meaning of the Hermetic texts – which the texts themselves try to occlude and cloud over and hide and evade, in classic esoteric fashion

these esoteric texts are as interested in obscuring the situation as they are in communicating and accurately helpfully describing the situation

they are there to conceal and the reason that they are there to conceal and then kind of partly reveal

it’s because esoteric texts are a project of avoidance and clouding over

and just like the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics it is a big project of setting up shelter to allow the ego power to hide and sustain itself

it is an avoidance tactic for the ego to survive, the ego covers up the truth

poetry and escape into poetry

ego escapes into poetry which is ambiguous which is missing the point which is evading the point which tries to conceal the situation while pretending to be trying to communicate it but actually trying to prevent communicating the truth

the Atman project: pursuing Transcendence by Means which prevent it

Esotericism is the Atman project: a way of pursuing the truth that’s designed to prevent you from seeing the truth, because you don’t like it, because you are ego advocate asserting freewill power thats a separate power ruling in heaven next to God’s throne

there’s the Hanegraaff and Esotericism and Esotericism throne erected next to the Source (challenging its power over your control-thinking)

it is a internal contradiction within western Esotericism

just like the contradiction within Reformed Theology where we have hyper hyper Calvinism which is consistent and we have Armenian Calvinism which is a massive self-contradiction effort to put a square peg into a round hole in a way that’s a self-contradiction

fate fatedness heimarmene eternalism block universe non-control*

*ctrl model xfmtn

To speak in a very abbreviated way:

psilocybin reveals noncontrol

Companion episode of Egodeath Mystery Show – https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/07/14/idea-development-page-14/ –
Episode 204 – Ugly Cosmology Mapping (Aug 8 2022) – available 1 week

Reasonably Irrational: Theurgy and the Pathologization of Entheogenic Experience
Wouter Hanegraaff
Video of conference presentation, with transcription
https://cswr.hds.harvard.edu/news/2021/04/19/video-reasonably-irrational-theurgy-and-pathologization-entheogenic-experience

“Charles Stang. … the director of the Center for the Study of World Religions here at Harvard Divinity School. … our year-long and wildly successful series on Psychedelics and the Future of Religion, co-sponsored by … the Esalen Institute, the Chakruna Institute for Psychedelic Plant Medicines, and the RiverStyx Foundation.”

surrounded by utter silence while watching the planetary constellations. She won’t see them just as physical planets. She will see them as deities

Wouter Hanegraaff, conference presentation “Reasonably Irrational: Theurgy and the Pathologization of Entheogenic Experience“

Hold up – what are “planetary constellations”?

Hanegraaff is intent on covertly silently moving the fixed stars (carrying heimemene) down from standard level 8 down into planetary wandering stars levels 1-7. What Hermetic texts justify this imaginal construction?

Last night’s Egodeath Mystery Show was productive, I went through hits on ‘astral’, ‘zodiac’, ‘stars’, and lots more. https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/07/14/idea-development-page-14/#Egodeath-Mystery-Show-episode-203

I’ve marked up the phrases in the book Hermetic Spirituality where provably, Hanegraaff’s project is to SILENTLY, covertly remove the fixed stars (and their heimarmene/ no-free-will/ block universe eternalism) from Level 8, and jam them covertly down into Level 7 (Saturn) by using the word ‘stars’ covertly silently redefined to mean planets.

Hanegraaff introduces massive confusion and conflict with the standard mystic cosmology levels.

He should say explicitly what he’s doing, and he should quote Hermetic texts to justify doing this or to explain why the location of the fixed stars remains an open question for him and explicitly explain how he strategically writes-around that knowledge gap.

On my show last night I realized: if you don’t state where the fixed stars are per Hermetic texts, then BY DEFAULT, they automatically definitely go in Level 8, as a cosmological given – after all, they have to go somewhere.

You can’t just keep Level 8 and then silently omit the stars (and their heimarmene payload/referent).

Of course I mean the REAL stars, not his deceptively misused word ‘stars’ by which he means the 7 planets.

Without his quoting texts, I have to provisionally conclude that he’s forcing a misinterpretation and producing a technically incoherent model.

He’s trying to sell us a cosmology with no fixed stars, only the 7 wandering planet-stars.

He assigns heimarmene/fatedness to Saturn (Level 7) at the highest; he says Level 8 is outside the heimarmene-ruled “cosmos”.

In the 3 main cosmology brands, Level 8 is explicitly where heimarmene and fixed stars are – his model is in severe conflict.

Hanegraaff is trying to fabricate a unique cosmology to exaggerate Theurgy’s differences from and distance from the other brands of Transcendent Knowledge: the shared standard cosmology of Gnosticism, Mithraism, and Christianity.

He can’t quote David Ulansey’s work, because the problems would be unavoidably obvious.

He makes outright self-contradictory statements regarding the highest location of heimarmene in relation to zodiac and Level 8 and 9.

A spiritual ascent cosmology without the fixed stars. His book doesn’t mention “fixed stars” except to say it’s an open question whether they are placed at Level 7 or 8.

He mentions ‘zodiac’ 3 times, and assigns Heimarmene with its daimon possession and fatedness at Level 7 or 1-7, the planetary spheres, not “the Ogdoad” (which is a fancy, magic-word, obscurationist way of saying cosmology Level #8).

To the extent that Hanegraaff permits the cosmos to have a zodiac of constellations of fixed stars, he demotes it to a planetary level, 7.

All extremely quietly and hard to perceive him doing this; it’s parenthetical half-stated remarks in footnotes, infamous Footnote 114: .

We need to read everything into this, and read it in a worst-case reading.

It’s evident he’s not just narrowly talking about music theory: all throughout his speeches and writings, he silently places the fixed stars and the constellations of them nowhere and tries to cover up his cosmic spiriting-away of the stars by covertly silently redefining the word ‘stars’ to mean the 7 planets, only.

Saturn … Whether the fixed stars should be included or should rather be associated with the Ogdoad remains an open question for me.

Wouter Hanegraaff, footnote 114, page 294, Hermetic Spirituality

candidate for scholarly quotes Hall of Shame?

He clearly doesn’t know what cosmic rug to sweep the fixed stars (with their heimarmene payload) under.

Hanegraaff Misuses Words, Introducing Confusion

This confusing, highly non-standard misuse of words such as ‘stars’ and ‘constellations’ runs throughout his writings and speeches.

IN MY BOOK REVIEW, HE FORCES ME TO DEFINE THE WORDS ‘STARS’ AND ‘ZODIAC’ AND ‘CONSTELLATIONS’!

To helpfully point out to customers/readers that he silently, very confusingly REDEFINES these words, just like he tries to redefine the word ‘entheogens’ to mean its exact opposite: “entheogenic religion/practices (sensu lato)” – translation: non-drug psychedelics.

Did you know that cave meditation & imagination exercises produce intense loose cognitive ego death, cybernetic seizure loss of control, forcing a mental model transformation, with the same efficacious intensity as heroic doses of Psilocybin?

Except they don’t – so all his assertions about “other, non-drug methods can produce” are falsehoods.

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Contents:

• Ideas of Spiritual Ascent and Theurgy from the Ancients to Ficino and Pico
• Toward a Generalized Standard Model of Spiritual Astral Ascent Cosmology
• Useful Motifs in the Book Hermetic Spirituality
• Say No to Non-Drug Entheogens

Ideas of Spiritual Ascent and Theurgy from the Ancients to Ficino and Pico

Ideas of Spiritual Ascent and Theurgy from the Ancients to Ficino and Pico
by Kirsty Laura Pattison MA
October 2020
https://theses.gla.ac.uk/81873/

Other article:
Phenomenology and Altered States of Consciousness: A New Framework for Analysis
Attila Szabo, Lajos Horváth, Csaba Szummer
2014
https://www.academia.edu/13312112/Phenomenology_and_Altered_States_of_Consciousness_A_New_Framework_for_Analysis

Find:

• ogdoad 8,
• fate,
• fixed: 1 n/a
• heimarmene 0 hits.

Toward a Generalized Standard Model of Spiritual Astral Ascent Cosmology

– Cybermonk August 7, 2022:

Kirsty Pattison quotes a quote from start of Copenhaver’s book.

The entire quote is highly relevant, but here’s the key part: keep in mind 7 = Saturn = highest wandering star level, “cosmos” seems to not include fixed stars level per Hanegraaff, so 8th (which MUST be where fixed stars would be) is called “hypercosmic”.

“at the seventh zone the deceit that lies in ambush. [26] And then, stripped of the effects of the cosmic framework, the human enters the region of the Ogdoad;56 he has his own proper power, and along with the blessed he hymns the father… They rise up to the father in order to surrender themselves to the powers, and having become powers, they enter into God. This is the final good for those who have received knowledge: to be made God.”

That particular passage, in isolation, partly appears to support Erik Davis’ Led Zeppelin IV book page 118 about spiritual ascent cosmology levels.

Davis’ 2005 book lowers the Empyrean down from level 10 to level 8 (fixed stars/ eternalism) and halts, with (like my 1997 Core theory) no level transcending no-free-will. His concept of the Emperian is a block universe no-free-will model, not transcending that to reach (we can say) qualified possibilism-thinking; “transcending eternalism”. The spirit transcends Heimarmene, where the soul remains.

But Theurgy’s level 8 is seemingly above heimarmene – hard to tell; Hanegraaff hasn’t hammered on figuring out this point, it’s an open question for him where the fixed stars go so he is mute, and confusion is unresolved.

Against Davis, Mithraism/Gnosticism and Christianity have a level (or 2, or 3 subdivisions) higher than block universe eternalism, and that level is called the Empyrean.

Davis’ 2005 book presents a flattened model that doesn’t break out “heimarmene transcendence” into two levels like my David Ulansey Precession 2003 posting introduced/ explained/ modelled.

https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/08/06/earliest-postings-about-astral-ascent-mysticism-spiritual-ascent-cosmology/ –

Earliest Postings about Astral Ascent Mysticism/ Spiritual Ascent Cosmology

The ultimate goal/referent for Egodeath theory is, CLARIFY HOW IN MYTH, DEATH AND REBIRTH HAPPEN WHEN CONSCIOUS OF ETERNALISM.

My job is to neaten and explicitly reconcile the cosmologies and myth systems (to map them efficiently to the Egodeath theory), not confusingly, silently omit the fixed stars like Hanegraaff does and misuse the word “astral” and “stars” and “cosmos” to mean only the 7 wandering stars (planets).

Discussions of variant cosmologies and fixed stars and Heimarmene and Saturn map to the referent per the Egodeath theory: mental model transformation from naive possibilism thinking to eternalism thinking, and then to qualified possibilism thinking when tight cognitive binding resumes.

I rummage through spiritual writings looking for confirmation of the key principle WHERE THERE’S EXPERIENCING OF ETERNALISM, THERE IS MENTAL MODEL TRANSFORMATION.

I try to bring all religious mythology, all four spiritual cosmology-level systems into alignment in the clearest most consistent simplest way, and so I’m against variations among the four brands of astral ascent mysticism/ spiritual ascent cosmology.

* Gnosticism

* Theurgy/Hermeticism – does it have a deviant placement of the “Heimarmene/ eternalism/ no-free-will/ non-branching possibilities” experiential transformative realization in Saturn instead of at the other schemes’ standard location, “Fixed Stars plus the Saturn gate”?

* Mithraism

* Christianity

The mess that is the Hermetic text fragments, their vagueness about where Heimarmene is and where the fixed stars are, must be solved by:

I need to build a simple clear mapping from a 3-level Egodeath theory model to a savvy carefully framed Generalized Standard Model of Spiritual Astral Ascent Cosmology

Davis’ 2005 book presents an impressively clear understanding, & description, of my outdated 1997 model. : /

Davis didn’t find my 2003 upward expansion per David Ulansey’s book about “Mithraism = precession of equinoxes = transcening eternalism” in my 2003 posting which must be present at Egodeath.com because that posting was before Valentines Day 2004.

My 2006 main article, asserting transcending the block universe, didn’t exist for Erik Davis’ 2005 book Led Zeppelin IV pages 118-119 & 122.

There’s a whole cluster of specific questions I’ve identified, though: how much deviance is there within “Hermetic texts”?

Hanegraaff writes about aspects of that problem, and about: Which texts are actually Hermetic?

Do Hermetic texts discuss the sphere of the fixed stars (how could they not?)

How deviant is Hermetic texts’ spiritual ascent cosmology vs. that of Gnosticism, Mithraism, and Christianity? Especially regarding: what’s the highest astral[broad sense: wandering & fixed stars] level at which Heimarmene rules – Saturn, or fixed stars?

Erik Davis well-covers himself when he writes “various interpretations”.

Davis used my 1997 model not my 2003 model that’s informed by David Ulansey’s hypercosmic (percession of equinoxes transcending the fixed stars/Heimarmene) model.

My 2003 posting defining the standard astral ascent mysticism / spiritual ascent cosmology model became a subsection in my 2006 main article.

In my book review of Hanegraaff’s book Hermetic Spirituality, I will point out Davis’ “error” but also point out Davis’ right statement “interpretations varied”.

Then, where does that leave us, now that the Egodeath theory has mapped Hanegraaff’s book’s cosmology as best as Hanegraaff’s “open question” of where to put the fixed stars will permit?

I continue asserting my mapping of the Egodeath theory to the standard late 10-level cosmology model, but I note how to vary that mapping in case some Hermetic texts place an eternalism rebirth at level 7 (Saturn) or level 8 (fixed stars).

Hanegraaff needs to focus on the question of where the Hermetic texts put the fixed stars, which represent Heimarmene.

Expressed directly, the question is:

In the four spiritual ascent cosmology levels systems:

What’s the highest level at which Heimarmene and a kind of “death and rebirth regarding Heimarmene” resides: Saturn, or fixed stars?

Saturn threatens and “gates” the child-mode thinking.

Functionally, Saturn & fixed stars both together are treated as the gate – or possibly a pair of gates.

1) Pass through gate 1 to die and be reborn into eternalism-consciousness;

2) Pass through gate 2 to move from soul to spirit, qualified possibilism thinking, transcending cosmic determinism/ fatedness/ eternalism/ block universe.

First we die to possibilism-thinking and reach no-free-will/heimarmene/ eternalism/ block-universe awareness, and then, we transcend basic eternalism-thinking and end up with qualified possibilism-thinking.

Like two gates: Saturn as a gate, and then the sphere of the fixed stars as a gate.

Article section: Transcending Determinism Requires Two Jumps

https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/the-entheogen-theory-of-religion-and-ego-death-2006-main-article/#Transcending-Determinism-Requires-Two-Jumps –

The Entheogen Theory of Religion and Ego Death (2006 main article)

Saturn together with the fixed stars can be treated as the key single point of reference for experiential mental transformation: no-free-will.

Personal control dynamics, specifically and emphatically, is the pivotal climactic nature of the key altered-state experiencing and revelation of heimarmene/eternalism/ the frozen non-branching block universe.

Spiritul cosmologies must be recognized as centered on the altered-state experience of block universe no-free-will & non-control, loss of control; cybernetic control death, control instability and restoring personal viable control stability by seeing the uncontrollable Source OF CONTROL THOUGHTS.

Useful Motifs in the Book Hermetic Spirituality

Hanegraaff’s book covers useful elements to map the Egodeath theory to (bolstering corroboration of that Theory, our understanding of the main referent of myth, explanatory coherence, etc.):

• reverence for the Source (pege) of all that exists
• exorcising negative daimons
• fear & trembling
• transcending heimarmene, astral fate
• entheogens, the intense altered state
• astral ascent mysticism / spiritual ascent cosmology levels

Say No to Non-Drug Entheogens

Kudos for Hanegraaff to taking up my criticism of his Dictionary of Gnosis for lacking the entheogenic altered state.

Hanegraaff’s imaginal construction of “non-drug entheogens” is an extreme overselling and over-elevation of cave meditation and imagination exercises, which are IN-CONTROL, thus PRETEND METHODS.

Those alleged, imposter methods are merely activities to do in the entheogen-induced altered state, and won’t make those activities effective at producing the divine transcendent loss-of-control ego death experience that forces the mental model transformation about control agency and possibility branching.

Against Hanegraaff’s book and keynote article, the word ‘entheogen’ by definition EXCLUSIVELY means substances – that’s the whole point and purpose of the word, per Jonathan Ott’s book The Angels’ Dictionary, and per Ruck and Wasson’s coining of the word. Really, by the exact same fallacious argument, this is tantamount to Hanegraaff proposing that we swallow the idea of “non-drug psychedelics”.

He wrote in his 2012 keynote article/chapter of the book Contemporary Esotericism, Entheogenic Esotericism (cited three times in this book, constituting 3 out of the 5 occurrences of the non-Indexed word ‘entheogen’) that he regretted not taking into account censorship, when he wrote about “no evidence for psychedelics in New Age” in his 1996 book.

He is not permitted to write realistically here. His treatment of this topic is constrained and censored so he puts forth the fallacious claim, in effect, that cave meditation and in-control imagination exercises actually produce the same intense and effective transcendent loss-of-control altered state that a peak dosage of Cubensis would produce, in a series of ten on-demand sessions.

Cave meditation doesn’t measure up to this Eadwine standard.

Hanegraaff’s imagination produces, using the fallacious argument “etymology of a word sets the meaning of the word”, he proposes the concept of non-drug psychedelics, in order to falsely and artificially claim that cave meditation “can”[despite doesn’t] cause the transcendent loss-of-control experience that maximum doses of Cubensis produces.

Cave meditation, and in-control meditation exercises, is not the kind of thing that produces loss-of-control and mental model transformation, as shown in Eadwine psalter folio page f134, leg-hanging mushroom tree and banqueting, self-threatening psalter reader, and two cybercides, in case one isn’t enough (both of them smiling, like Hanegraaff’s “thoroughly positive” depiction of Hermeticism).

Hanegraaff casually proposes to open the definition of the word ‘entheogens’ to include the enemy, the false claim that those activities are methods of producing the loosecog state. Such a modest proposal is unwelcome in the extreme, in the field of entheogen scholarship, and it’s offensive to allow these fraudulent imposters into the sacred space of actual entheogens.

Just say no to Hanegraaff’s worst idea of any academic ever: non-drug entheogens.

Hanegraaff “broadens current understandings” of the word, like robbing a bank broadens current understandings of making a withdrawal.

Hanegraaff’s 3-times cited keynote-speech article “Entheogenic Esotericism” renders the word “entheogen” unusable by scramling its meaning and redefining it to mean its exact antonym.

Against page 5-6 of Hanegraaff’s book, where he continues to propose “entheogens (sensu lato)”, which cites his 2012 article “Entheogenic Esotericism”: as I posted to the world-wide web eight years before Hanegraaff’s 2012 article:

Subject: Authentic esotericism is entheogenic esotericism (June 12, 2004) – “Authentic esotericism is entheogenic esotericism. Entheogens are the key to esotericism. This is the simplest possible theory of esotericism, and the most natural, the least contrived and strained. Theories of esotericism that are not based on entheogens suffer from the problem of grandiose verbiage, unmet promises and claims, chronic vagueness, excuses for lack of potent and prompt efficacy, and no ability to deliver the experiences which are talked about. Drug-free esotericism doesn’t work; it is not effectively ergonomic.”