the guy only has one leg, which is not unique in this image, but he has one leg in the middle of his body, with gray legging sock
and it is implied that it’s a correct right foot , because it is resting on the other guys right foot
but no left foot is showing for him,
and we can deduce that the flesh colored ankles on the left guys right foot is behind the column base , thus is considered touching
and then the bare Ankle, which must belong to the left hand guy, because the ankles match, is floating.
and so the joke of the second guy is that he has he only has a right leg ; it’s a bit of a puzzle/joke.
3:36 AM April 24, 2022
it’s clear or there’s certainly more to be found significant more
there are additional significant discoveries in this F134 canterbury picture
but I graciously may leave some
I’ve had my fill with this rather overwhelming picture decoding
big enough of a jackpot for me
it’s already the world’s biggest jackpot
and it’s a big todo list is now you’ve got to
what has to happen now is that we have to develop the grid analysis:
you overlay a grid on top of these several images that we’re discussing:
the Canterbury Psalter “mushroom tree/ balancing/ hanging/ touching sword” image
the bull slaying scene tauroctony
salamander roasting “dancing man”
The purpose of the grid is to force yourself to give diligent vigorous aggressive analysis of each every square inch of the image
don’t let anything slip by without analysis
analyze every hand
every foot
every leg
every hem
which direction everyone is looking
Who has a beard or not
every mushroom hem
Every raised garment lifted garment
every column base
every branching or non-Branching feature, or snake-like feature, or ivy leaf feature
every sword
every blade
the relative height of each hand
the relative height of each foot
the angle of every leg
list everything that’s touching anything else
Make a complete list of every item that’s not touching every other item in the whole image;
a combinatorial explosion, that I was struggling to hold back in order to decode this Canterbury Psalter mushroom tree image in November 2020, I had to block out the image, it was too much at once.
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11:34 pm April 23,2022
highly improbable # of left hands higher than right hands in comic panel
1) Hatsis-type figure, left hand 2:56am April 24, 2022 is lower than right hand
2) left hand up, right hand down, like God
3) ” & compare bearded’s lifted garment to that of the passing student in upper left [2:40 am April 24 2022] also msh hem touching stable colume base, & both feet lifted, indicating transcending eternalism-reliance.
4) no limbs.
who lacks limbs? top right – trip guide & father. mid row far right side.
who has left hand higher than right? Nearly everyone; it’s easier to list who doesn’t.
I have to come up with a better way of tracking what time stamped and day each paragraph in this page, to track breakthroughs hour by hour.
9:36 PM April 23, 2022 addendum
given that both of the twins are presented in a positive light the left leg does double duty allow Ken Wilber pre-trans fallacy the left leg represents both naïve possibilism and also qualified possibilism which maps to transcending eternalism and transcending the rock cosmos entrapment that comes along with enlightenment about no free will and pre-existent control thoughts
how can we see the left leg as positive, to come away with a balanced view that respects both the left leg and the right leg?
solution: the ultra transcendent aspect of ordinary state consciousness after enlightenment is completed
it is imperative that we have an ultimate extremely positive judgment of the experience of freedom free will when the ordinary state permanently returns after complete enlightenment about no free will
and this is how we could elevate the left leg standing guy twin, Cautopates.
Advanced question:
how is the right leg relying twin ( cautes) superior to the left leg twin (cautopates)?
& vice versa? very adv q. ans: 10:26 PM April 23, 2022: to see the left leg standing twin as more glorious and superior and more transcendent than the block universe twin who stands on the right leg for stability we have transcended control system stability we have transcended our embeddedness in the block universe lifted up by Mithras who is born from outside of the rock and who makes the entire cosmos rock move like the creator
this ties into gnostic demiurge ideas of we awaken to our entrapment in the cosmos and then we can negatively value the block universe enlightenment and seek to transcend the block universe eternity prison that is revealed in the altered state and then we are lifted up by the God the rescue or the redeemer to pull us up from outside of the rock imprisoned in the cosmic rock
and then the Orthodox had objections to disparaging eternalism as a Wm James [Iron Block Universe] prison of rock.
we have to beware of duality Dualism and demonizing the demiurgic creator of the block universe, the dreaded puppetmaster, unseen and hard to trust, and who has created this broken world of rock prison that we are frozen in.
Be sure don’t think heretical thoughts here, you gnostic heretics.
dont demonize Cautes eternalism prison nor Cautes return to possibilism thinking (qualified now, no longer naive).
Per Ken Wilber do not demonize the lower level
you will never transcend it that way
you have to differentiate from the lower level
and when you return to using the lower level, you do not fall down embedded into possibilism thinking, but you stay positioned above the lower level child thinking, even while you utilize that child thinking for the rest of your life, in the normal tight cognitive binding state, but now, qualified. Transcended.
This is not the childish Cautopates but rather the final completed Transcendent usage of the left leg possibility model to depend on it during day and day out forever for the rest of your life retaining completed Initiation enlightenment and transfiguration, returned to the flesh yet not of it, with wounds, having been bodily reborn glorified, blessed like Cautopates’ hypercosmic emancipation, after Cautes’ block-universe enlightenment.
we do not demonize the right leg twin, nor the left leg twin, but glorify them both together, in their right-balance roles. 10:34 PM April 23, 2022
wisdom lifts left leg and then right leg, relying on neither, prisoner of neither; redeemed out from the created world by the god.
L to R: Tom Hatsis; enlightened guy; guy who is so transcended we should worry; guy w no limbs
Some of that caption is new connections, 10:53 PM April 23, 2022, but I’m not gonna tell you which
Glory to Persephone, Queen of Hades’ realm of revealed shadows, who lives, though died.
April 23 2022 am
(date = April 23 2022: )
consolation Breakthrough Recording [published within Egodeath Mystery Show ep124 ]: Since my backstabbing technology trashcanned my realtime breakthrough recording 7am 4/22:
working out ideas about the legs of the Cupid pair enabling me to solve interpreting the leg pairs of the Mithras scene TAUROCTONY
Warning: today’s recording and webpage includes cussing, because this voice transcription cannot handle the most trivial, elementary, commonplace words but to produce the word ‘bull’, I have to say the ‘bs’ word 🤷🏼♂️
The words ‘fad’ & ‘bull’? forget it: impossible for today’s technology. 👎👎
Since my backstabbing tape deck decided to trashcan my realtime, hour-long decoding discovery based on the two- cupids bull sacrifice scene, which led me to consider the leg pairs, the five leg pairs in the Mithras scene tauroctony.
left leg bulls hind leg pair – hind left leg means both naïve and qualified possibilism thinking
I did an even deeper analysis of my November 7, 2015 comment, as consolation (omg that was just this morning, Saturday morning 4/22/2022, that I’m referring to here today, it’s the same day right now; Sat Apr 23, 2022, and I can hardly keep track! anyway, one of the raw recordings that fed into Egodeath Mystery Show ep124 )
voice recording and assuming that it doesn’t throw in the garbage can this morning half hour deep analysis of my multi Interpretation posting of November 7, 2015 today [4/23 am] I realized that I posted and considered two different approaches, differentiated in my comment, showing how I was trying multiple sophisticated readings of pairs of legs, but enough but in November I failed to even mention or consider at all the question of which leg,
the interesting thing is that although I resolved that on Christmas 2015 regarding the two-level analysis and so I resolved the two-level paragraph of November 7 2015 Comment at Cyberdisciple’s 2-cupid page, but today [4/23 am, provable by .wav recording timestamp, time flew today] I realized that as great as the Christmas 2015 resolution of “the question of which leg” was, I failed to address the question of a three-level interpretation, where we run out of legs —
IF we are human!
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left leg equals Possibility Branching delusion
but if we are a bull, then we can have enough leg pairs, two leg pairs, two of them, so that one leg pair, the front leg pair, can represent the two-level system:
right leg equals enlightenment equals trapped frozen in rock – as if that’s a good thing!
and then the rear pair of legs
we didn’t have
the question which I failed to resolve Christmas 2015
regarding coming back to the November 2 part of my analysis potential readings that I offered
On Christmas 2015, I should have come back to the three-level analysis (in the 2nd part of my November 7, 2015 Comment at Cyberdisciple’s 2011 2-cupid page) and answer the question: which leg for the three-level system?
and the answer is regardless of how the ancients in the post-determinism era of 250 aD, this happens to map very well to my saying that :
The mind moves from [naïve possibilism thinking], to the combination of [eternalism thinking] plus [qualified possibilism thinking] –
10:06 pm 4/23/2022
in summary[10:06 pm 4/23/2022:], treat [Qualified Possibility Thinking] as ultra-valuable and transcendent the same as your ordinary state experience of free will after complete enlightenment. equate that with the twin who stands on the left leg and bends the right leg
and this is how we can think of each twin as representing a higher level of enlightenment as contrasted with the Naive starting State and avoid Ken Wilber is pre-trans fallacy.
and I go into this in today’s Egodeath Mystery Show episode 124 from this morning [4/23/2022 am], which is kind of a consolation prize for losing the two-cupids breakthrough recording of yesterday am, April 22. although I talk it through in the episode which I just now released which I recorded this morning but even right now I still jackpot make more connections to revise the theory to improve its explanatory power I am learning how they read the left leg twin as sacred and very lofty very high up and not just stupid ignorant naïve possibility thinking but rather possibility thinking in its elevated trans
I Wilber with labeled as trans rational Ken Wilber would label it as trans rational if we call eternity Thinking equals rational then what do you call it when the Mushrooms Psilocybin wears off and the loose cognitive binding goes away and we retain complete enlightenment yet we return to the given the fact of the experience of free will but it is not naïve free well Persephone lives on in her glorified role as queen of the underworld we read return to the usual very familiar tight cognitive binding work a day experiential mode yet like Alan Watts explains in the waves in the book the way of Zen Chopwood carry water before enlightenment I expected to end up in a different state but instead I ended up in the same old state but in a different stage therefore no pre-trans fallacy. The freedom that I now have Christ has set me free but this is not naïve possibility thinking although it is the mode of possibility thinking but I don’t believe in it yet here it is it has the mode of experiencing in workaday tight cognitive binding we experience free will and we are set free from the shackles of enlightenment about frozen in rock eternity our control thoughts frozen and given to us helplessly reduced to a statue king frozen and rock yet we call this a kind of hypercosmic freedom that Mithras has been born outside of the rock and the twin who stands on left leg just as we began when we were a child and when we thought like a child we return to Persephone Thinking but it is different we have transcended the experiencing of free will in the tight cognitive state of ordinary state consciousness for permanently the rest of our life.
– [10:15 PM April 23, 2022 Cybermonk]
April 23, 2022 AM
then a good answer is that now the left leg is considered in it’s positive aspect of possibility thinking mapped to the third level, where we transcend in the hyper cosmic realm outside of the fire at the edge of the cosmos (see David Ulansey Article) hypercosmic.
Here we could see that the hind pair of legs of the bull
The rear leg the rear hind legs of the BULL can represent and carry both positive connotations and negative connotations carry both the positive and negative connotations
the good thing about the rear right leg is it is enlightenment and stability of control
but the bad thing is that you were no frozen in the iron block universe trapped in rock
and then we can look at the positive aspect of the rear left leg A form of possibility thinking that now takes into account enlightenment and the limitations of stability of the left possibility way of thinking
and now we can treat as a good thing emancipation is the qualified possibility thinking which can be mapped to transcending the rock, transcending our entrapment frozen in the iron block universe, answering William James objection, and mapping to Ken Wilber his trans rationality level.
The question of which leg is mapped to the 250 A.D. fad of transcending determinism.
Amanita has dirty cognitive effects (failing to target loose cognitive association), combined with great visual appeal, and that is why Amanita will forever be the face of ingesting Psilocybin.
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Even Terence McKenna, the great advocate of Psilocybin mushrooms, has a gigantic Amanita image on his audio reading of his book on mushroom History:
Photo: Michael Hoffman, Jan. 8, 2025. Headshop art on rolling tray, showing gills that look like branches. Product line: Green Line. 2023 Star Link Global Group. In this art genre, {spotted mushrooms} means ingesting Psilocybin or ergot, or even cannabis — not ingesting Amanita.Photo: Michael Hoffman, Jan. 8, 2025. Headshop art with spotted mushrooms. In this art genre, {spotted mushrooms} means ingesting Psilocybin or ergot, or even cannabis — not ingesting Amanita. Bottom left: Amanitas (15) with eyes for veil spots. Bottom mid-right: Datura. Bottom right: Psilocybin mushrooms.Photo: Michael Hoffman, Jan. 8, 2025. Headshop art.
todo: study all myth through the {legs} mytheme lens.
why did I not figure out to do this aggressively on November 7, 2015 when I commented on cyberdisciple’s image of the two cupids in a bull sacrifice type of scene??
why didn’t I go running out to all the myth images and say look at there legs, at all those legs
let’s look at all their legs
which leg is it, left leg right leg ?
inventory the legs
write a 70-page academic article that nobody reads:
A full study of all legs in every single, inventory of every leg in every myth in every religious image
stop seeing mushrooms everywhere, you fools, you’re supposed to be seeing legs everywhere
one legged standing on one leg coral rock the mushroom people who stand on one leg
see one leg everywhere
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Secret Amanita standing on its right leg – since it’s the only real basis/leg, it must be the right leg (post-hoc revelation explanation)
this morning is perfect proof of why it is impossible for me to read websites of mythology or cyber disciples site map (or the Egodeath Yahoo Group ,) listing interesting webpages some of which I forgotten seeing before and already commented partially:
the two Cupids standing on the different legs led to a major top magnitude Breakthrough in Mystery Religion explanation for late modern figuring out and comprehending the meaning of Mystery Religion imagery.
this has happened to me, I demonstrated this before, back in November 2020, that I literally can’t go to mythology website, because I am overwhelmed by too many connections, too many breakthroughs
and that was a big theme while Decoding Canterbury top row, was that I was overwhelmed by the top row, by too much jackpot success, and I did not permit myself to look at rows two and three of the comic panel, for fear of too many connections and too many breakthroughs pulling me in every direction
the problem of plethora of decodings
it’s too many, too successful, so that I literally cannot scan a mythology website, because I will immediately be prevented, because I will encounter Decoding breakthroughs that I am embarrassed that I didn’t obviously perceive before already
And so then I have to hasten to write the Decoding that is embarrassing that I didn’t already figure out before, by this late date
The breakthrough started here after last night April 21, 2022, I made a site map of Cyberdisciple’s site, and I noticed this cupids Tauroctony-like page, which I read aloud while recording the lost voice recording this morning April 22 , and
I had really literally completely forgotten about this image, but it turns out that there was a important November 7, 2015 interpretation comment posting by me that was a pretty important step in decoding, like, everything (Hephaestos; roasting salamander dancing man; Canterbury; & Tauroctony).
this morning, I at first casually looked at the picture and did not inventory left and right legs then in my mind’s eye, I started wondering : let’s go back to that picture and look at it again, which leg do they stand on?
The “favored” / “affirmed” positioning depends on the components of the individual image; symmetrical twins are not always on the same, left or right side of an image.
The Cupid image is strange, atypical, because the bull is mirrored to have a head on the left as well as on the right, in an exact mirroring.
but what we really see very sharply in that image is twins, where one is standing on one leg, and the other is standing on the other leg.
and that was enough to get me to think about the twins in Mithras scene.
also relevant and keeps coming to mind, is my exchange with Max Freakout regarding the mytheme {turning to look to the right}, which was probably the most to credit with my specifically identifying the *right* leg as the stable mental model, between November 7, 2015 and Christmas 2015 – why right is better than left & maps to the superior mental model.
bonus announcement: 8:28 a.m., April 22, 2022: I just grasped mentally and realized; I’m announcing:
Mithras is shown standing essentially on his right leg, not left leg, meaning that he’s confirming eternalism thinking, not possibility branching thinking.
The Key: Legs Inventory
The key (7:33 pm 4/22/2022): leg pairs, from right to left in the image:
Cautopates (right): Left leg straight, right leg bent (bad)
Bull front legs: Left leg straight, right leg bent (bad)
Mithras: left leg bent, right leg straight (good)
Bull hind legs: Left leg bent, right leg straight (good)
Cautes (left): Left leg bent, right leg straight (good)
7:37 pm Observation:
All the “bad” leg-pairs are on the right side of the picture; all the “good” leg-pairs are on the left side of the picture.
The “bad”, straighter left legs (than right) are placed near each other.The “good”, straighter right legs (than left) are placed near each other.
the “good” twin stands near the straightened, “good” right hind leg of the bull and Mithras’ “good” legs; but the “bad” twin stands near the “bad” front legs of the bull – Cybermonk
8:28 am con’t:
I don’t think that in the past I pointed out Mithras “standing” on right leg, because he’s not exactly standing, but his right leg does match the right leg of the small man, who is definitely, pointedly standing on his right leg.
as far as I recall, and I could be wrong, I don’t believe I’ve ever connected and
I don’t believe I’ve ever discussed or mentioned or pointed out that:
Cautes and Cautopates are standing on one leg, and those are opposite legs: one standing on left leg, one standing on right leg, and then compare Mithras leg (note 10 min later: & bull’s leg!! ) note which leg!
I do not believe I have comprehended and discussed and focused on and drawn attention to this subject, pointed out the question of interpreting their legs before.
just like I did a leg inventory of Canterbury Psalter, you have to do a “leg folded versus non-folded/straight” inventory of the Tauronctony.
and now when I come to the Tauroctony again, –
I do think I did a lot of interpretation after November 2020 Canterbury miracle Breakthrough, and yet I don’t recall directing my attention to the *legs* in the famous bull sacrifice scene.
Super obvious, how did I not think of this – assuming I didn’t think of it- in November 2020??
obviously the bull sacrificing confirms and corroborates my left and right leg interpretation of November 7, 2015 and Christmas 2015, which was the key to the gaining traction to decode the entire Canterbury comic panel F134 mushroom tree with two men and a sword.
This is actually a pretty big breakthrough in Tauroctony interpretation.
(translation: I am stupid, an idiot for not pointing this out and perceiving/grasping this before.)
this is “super obvious” 😞
this is as major of a discovery realization as the magnitude of my blindness and stupidity and mental denseness, as mentally slow as a psychedelic witch with a scopolamine-addled mind.
note that Cautes & Cautopates, the two small Mithras-accompanying men, one stands on left leg, the other stands on right leg, the latter matching Mithras.
12:18 pm I now propose that a major function of the two small men is to depict explicitly the mytheme of standing on left leg versus standing on right leg contrasted this is the reason for the so-called twins one twin stands on left leg one twin afterwards stands on right leg. April 22, 2022 –
Now this is a useful date, because this is a example of a point in time breakthrough because they are not always so much of a point in time breakthrough a famous date damn near a holyday for the ego death community/religious cult.
when did I make the top magnitude Mystery Religion Tauroctony biggest breakthrough of all time , of all the people who have tried to decode such as David uLancey? ans: April 22, 2022.
because everyone knows there are no Texts for the Mithras religion of Roman
Canterbury Psalter images seem to be the same, except I assume – maybe cyberdisciple can help me find where in the hell are scholars writing about the images, interpreting the images – what is their interpretation of the two men balancing and hanging in the tree with the sword Mushroom tree F134 in Canterbury Psalter?
where are all the artist historians interpreting this mushroom tree
but from my point of view the Wikipedia says the thing is these images are very difficult to interpret, and I am good at interpreting such images, because I in fact did
I completely decoded the Canterbury image comic panel all by myself with no help whatsoever from any other scholar and then
the situation is a little bit different with Roman Mithras, because I have read books, and there are easy to find books that try to interpret this imagery, which I have read, and which are easily available, unlike the Canterbury Psalter comic panel F134 mushroom tree with two men and sword.
in any case, I am good at interpreting such images, because of my success that’s been proved in both images, both scenes, which both include – the key decoding aspect is right leg versus left leg, what does that mean?
I explain: the possibility model versus the eternalism, nonbranching Model of control, time, and possibility.
Everyone knows that the challenge in explaining the Roman Religion of Mithras is that we have to rely and (so Thomas Hatsis’ Latin expertise will be of no use here) we have to rely purely on visual image Interpretation, which I today April 22, 2022 Have made the greatest Breakthrough in Interpretation of the Tauroctony.
12:38 PM April 22, 2022: I just confirmed that Mithras’ is straight right leg is forcing the right leg , hind leg, of the bull to be straight.
compare the front left leg of the bull, which is not folded: first, the front of the bull was trying to stand on left front leg, but then later, the right rear leg of the ball is forced to be straight by Mithras’ right leg. – Cybermonk
translation: Decoding; ultimate referent:
initially, the mind tries to rely on the possibility-Branching model of control and time
but then in the loose cognitive state from the Banquet with Mithras, drinking mixed wine Mushroom wine,
then the mind transforms the mental world model, when the possibility Branching model fails and turns out to have no power, and branching possibility is experienced as an illusion, together with the kind of apparent experience of steering control power is experienced as an illusion now, and the mind switches
The mind perceives that underneath the illusion, the solid remaining reality is non-branching
and so the mind is forced by instability threat of control loss:
the more that the mind attempts to rely on the possibility Branching model, the more the mind control becomes unstable unstable, until control becomes completely not viable and chaotic, and total overcoming of viable self-control is the result.
the harder you try, the more you go unstable and override your own control ability.
and then the mind forms the alternative model of control, of dependent control instead of autonomous control, and a new form of control stability is reached this way, all forced upon the mind by the God, in the loose cognitive Association state.
/ End of 12:18 PM insert; the below is from this morning:
jackpot continues : the bull being sacrificed is depicted standing on left leg, corresponds to one of the small men, and Metras standing on right leg corresponds to the other standing man small man
the standing on left leg is what is sacrificed in the Tauroctony – this is a pretty big breakthrough.
Final note for now , connection:
interpret in terms of folding put emphasis on folded leg , because it is easy to depict the bull’s folded leg
don’t just discuss standing leg; discuss folded leg, as a strong sign
inventory all of the folded legs
& inventory all of the non-folded legs, equals “standing” legs.
the non-folded legs are to be considered as standing on, relying on, that mental model.
On November 7, 2015, I posted a preliminary step of my leg mytheme decoding which led to the Canterbury Miracle decoding of November 2020.
New corroboration while recording Egodeath Mystery show today note that:
the Cupid who is standing on the left leg is not in the position of sacrifice stabbing the shoulder of the bull
and the Cupid who is standing on the right leg is in the position of sacrifice stabbing the bull’s shoulder with knife, vulnerability wound in the right side, through which new birth.
thus the image confirms my hypothesis Theory prediction, that art that shows both standing on the left and the right leg would give preference to the right leg.
thus my theory is further confirmed by this art find, combined with coming back, circling back around after 2015.
now in 2022 I return to interpret again this art find, and it gives confirmation of the intervening Discoveries and Interpretations and Theory,
further bolstering my interpretation Theory of the meaning of two legs in art tradition.
on Christmas 2015, I posted my successful Decoding, Against Hatsis failed decoding.
Chris Bennett’s 1995 essay in the book green gold Bennett presented the what he called dancing man image.
then in 1998 Samorinis article showed that image in black-and-white.
and then maybe Jan Irvins 2008 book the holy Mushroom showed that image.
and then around 2013 or 2015 or later redated as 2017, Hatsis website number one or two or three Hatsis interpreted the salamander Roasting image in the Article Roasting Jan irvin.
then on Christmas 2015, I posted the announcement, with a great self certainty, of the meaning of standing on the right leg.
how did I have such such certainty and clarity at that point in time, is because on November 7 2015, I interpreted cyberdisciples art find of two Cupid’s performing the Tauroctony-type bull sacrifice.
see my comment on that page and probably also find a copy of that comment in the ego death Yahoo Group
I don’t know if I have done real research to determine on what date or my trajectory of gradual Decoding but here’s a good solid date.
I think what’s missing at this November 7 2015 Interpretation by me is specifically saying:
*left* equals left leg equals possibility model Possibility Branching Model of time and control and possibility
and that the *right* leg specifically represents the eternal of them pre-existing eternally control thoughts mental model of time self control and possibility
My November 7 2015 comment on cyberdisciples art find interpretation just points out that because there are two legs, we can map those to the two mental models
but on the left the Cupid stands on left leg and on the right in the favored knife right shoulder position the other Cupid stands on right leg.
they are babies, it would be suitable to show a baby standing on left foot and then a bearded adult
The November comment on cyber disciples art find interpretation just points out that because there are two legs we can map those to the two mental models
on the left the Cupid stands on left leg and
on the right the other Cupid stands on right leg
and there’s a clear preference shown
they are babies it would be suitable to show a baby standing on left foot and then
a bearded adult could Be shown on standing on right foot
that would be consistent
I don’t know if I have done the research to find the original dates trajectory of decoding standing on right leg mytheme
but anyway here’s a convenient evidence that I stumbled upon of how I announced in such a clear definitive fashion Christmas 2015 my leg Decoding which was instrumental and crucial in decoding Great Canterbury Psalter F134 image of The mushroom tree with two men and sword
and then decoding the entire surrounding image including for example lower left cyber side red man standing right foot on column base while sword penetrating wound in right side from inside of the body outward smiling and turning to look to the right
more systemic corrobn of the Egodeath theory prediction patterns that are predicted as coherent set:
sunrise = good = new mental model = right leg = torch up = Cautes = eternalism = adult
Cautopates = torch down = bad= child= sunset = snake basket = left leg = possibilism = old initial mental model
7:10 pm summary: 4/22/2022:
accidental major/huge breakthrough on interpreting Mithraic Tauroctony today.
It’s all about the legs!
The key is to inventory which legs are more bent vs straighter.
Mithras, 2 twins, bull front, bull hind; 5 pairs of legs to correlate/contrast.
Which leg is relied on, R leg is good, L leg is childish (gives control instability & powerlessness after 🍄 banquet).
A more-bent leg means “not relying on that mental model”; a straighter leg means “relying on that mental model” (L = egoic; R = transcendent).
This is the biggest scholarly decoding of solving the Tauroctony (bull sacrifice scene) mystery. our evidence mainly consists of: every single religious cultic initiation site has this scene.
No texts available, only art images are available, so we had to be really good at art interpretation; like wiki says re: Canterbury Psalter, “Images that are difficult to interpret” – done.
– Cybermonk
history of working on the Jesus Kosmokrator (cosmos ruler) images with 1 foot lifted, compared to the other – my history of analyzing the mytheme {one foot higher than the other} began there, maybe 2003.
and so you can see both in cyberdisciples presentation of my first generation Interpretation and then November 7, 2015 my comment which describes my working towards a different interpretation, not yet identifying the right leg is preferred
I remember that when I saw cyberdisciple quoting my v1 decoding attempt in his web log posting webpage – I remember that on November 7, 2015, I thought my latest interpretation is better than that.
cyberdisciple described my original interpretation this way:
“The Cupids pictured here also stand with one leg on the ground and the other in the air. This represents the enlightened mind with one foot rooted to the ground, the determined world, and one foot floating free in the transcendent world. This image also suggests the one ‘footed’ mushroom.”
yeah but which foot?! it changes! The above type of explanation doesnt take into account the question of which foot is raised & which foot is on the ground.
I saw that interpretation of mine, and I didn’t feel very good about it , didnt feel it was very solidly-based; I did not feel solidly Based on November 7, 2015, and that’s why I felt obligated to post a fresh interpretation comment at his page, this time, interpreted in terms of:
which leg you depend on is the leg that’s down on the ground, and lifting the other leg means not depending on that leg (mental worldmodel).
however, on nov 7 2015, I had not yet specifically mapped the right leg to the superior, more stable mental model, until I asserted the latter on Christmas 2015.
all of this constitutes some very important history behind the Canterbury miracle Decoding, which on 4am April 13, 2022 came back to clarify the Mushroom tree in the Salamander Dancing image (finally recognizing the mound on the right as a cut major right branch trunk, then a few hours later, noticed his right foot touches that cut branch), and now on April 22, 2022 I came back, through revisiting cyberdisciple’s image and my two interpretations at that webpage, which finally led me back to great breakthrough of interpreting all five pairs of legs in the famous Tauroctony scenes. – Cybermonk
🍄 drinking horn makes perceptible the rock-frozen snake hidden in basket (top row: Luna, Sol, & Mithras, at banquet)
Academia forces scholars to cripple their assertions, downplay their assertions and evidence, and toe the “Moderate entheogen theory” party line, even though they want to assert and mentally grasp the Maximal entheogen theory of religion.
extending a little bit listening to my raw voice recording today April 21, 2022, there are so many instances that come to mind of why Carl Ruck is coerced to Think Small & Think Suppressed.
Cyberdisciple says that Carl Ruck in the 1978 book The Road to Eleusis says that Mirceau Eliade in his book on Shamanism which Wisen’s book soma criticizes the unbelievable waffling of Eliad and then goes on to do that
Extreme waffling himself five seconds after he describes how Eliade does that waffling, Wasson does the identical exact same waffling himself.
The waffling & self-countering equals the Moderate position .
We have talked about this and joked about this before, about waffling back in February 2021
Dr. Secret Amanita Carl Ruck’s waffling equals the academia forced position
you are forced to waffle
you’re not allowed to assert plain and straightforward that religion comes from entheogens
this is exactly specifically why I had to formulate the Maximal entheogen theory of religion in 2002, because academia forbids asserting in any historical period /Era
in academia , you are not allowed to say that visionary plants were normal, main stream
and this breaks and destroys my forgot plot assertion
in academia you are not allowed to say that middle ages Christianity forgot their original use of visionary plants which was originally normal in public and standard and ordinary and widely understood
you are not allowed to assert that
that they ever had above board Knowledge
and so the whole concept of forgot plot is kind of shattered
given that in academia you are not allowed to assert that there ever was a time when visionary plants were normal in religion
and therefore you can’t talk in terms of that they forgot *this original full-fledged knowledge*, because you’re not permitted to admit that they *ever* had this normalized visionary plants and normalized metaphoricity non-literalist thinking
you are forced to assert like Carl rock, obedient lapdog Carl rock never can allow himself to assert that all mixed wine was psychoactive mushroom wine.
he is not allowed to make such a positive statement.
and that is why
whenever you hand Carl Ruck your evidence, he will destroy it , because he is forced to destroy it by putting it in his cage and putting shackles around your evidence and clamping on an intensive negative framing around your evidence to neutralize your positive evidence
and he will invert and destroy and eliminate your positive findings of visionary plants in our religious history
because academia and the establishment paradigm is forcing coral rock to neutralize every piece of evidence and in fact invert it
so when you hand him –
the more evidence you hand Carl rock, …
you see we don’t really have Carl rock, we have a corrupted version of Carl rock
academia forces us to have a substitute Corrupted version of Carl rock
and per the Hoffman uncertainty principle, we don’t actually know what Carl rocks actual position is regarding how normal was visionary plant use
we cannot know what Carl rock believes; we can only know what he *wrote*
publicly, when we observe his position, The results from our throwing a Taboo particle question at him: “was visionary plant use normal?”
and we observe his publicly stated faith position statement, hand on the Bible “I, coral rock, solemnly swear & assert that it was never normal to use visionary plants [even while I pile on book after book year after year asserting visionary plants I must always frame it as negative], no, there was no normal visionary plant use ever, in our religion, ever.
– signed, Carl Ruck”
everyone in academia who has written about Entheogen Scholarship has always been forced to assert the moderate position, which is “yes, but no; the visionary plants were present, but therefore they were absent.”
this self-contradictory, Moderate Position is not invented by Carl rock , but it is a move that he is forced to make because he is an academic
and this was my 2002 revolution, my declaration of revolution against this waffling this enforced, pretended stance
Cyberdisciple has recounted that coral rock in the book the road to Eleusis complained about this and revealed the prejudice and bias that academics are forced to pretend and
curl Ruck’s in the book of the road to Eleusis explains how m. Eliade had to lie about his own views on shamanism, the use of visionary plants by shamans
and similarly we can see how Carl rock is forced to contradict himself by assuring the establishment that “yes, although there was visionary plants in ancient Greece 500 BC at Eleusis , which is equated with the entire subject and in fact replaces the entire subject every single mystery Religion
it’s replaced by the single instance of Eleusis as proxy, exactly the same as Plaincourault fresco replaces completely looking at any other mushroom Trees or Mushroom imagery and Christian Art
similarly as cyber disciple has elaborated, Eleusis is abused to replace rather than to explain the entire hundreds of mystery religions and banqueting tradition instances
they are made to go away by Brian Muraresku book the immortality key, we eliminate the nuisance data
academics are forced to replace the problematic reality
eliminate
we are forced academics are forced to replace the problematic reality
that all mixed wine was psychoactive Mushroom wine, and the problematic reality that all mystery Religion Initiation was psychoactives Mushrooms
and we must contradict ourselves like Wassen when Wassen eventually conformed to Acadamia’s dictates, and he switched his cover story his cover-up story from Mushrooms equals kykeon at Eleusis , to extinct ergot cover-up story, to come into compliance with academia Strategy:
1) first replace all mystery religions by Eleusis and distract from all banqueting mixed wine rounds of mixed wine, by putting all spotlights exclusively on Eleusis.
and then, step 2) Wasson you have to change from your problematic assertion that kykeon is mushrooms, that Eleusis kykeon drink is mushrooms, and change your story
to become in compliance, you must contradict yourself and say that they one single instance of psychoactive plants in Greek religion, which is Eleusis , was an extinct strain of ergot, which no longer exists, and there:
we have thereby eliminated the problematic reality that all mixed wine banqueting was mushrooms, and that all mystery religion was based on mushrooms
and so we see this exactly precisely is the moderate entheogen theory of religion which I declared revolution against in 2002.
I very much noticed in 2001 , reading the book apples of Apollo, I noticed how every single academic was forced to counter-signal themselves
and I said fck this shiite I refuse to f’ing counter signal myself
I’m not gonna counter-signal my assertion per the Establishment’s enforced, Moderate entheogen theory.
go f yourself, I’m going to assert a Maximal Entheogen Theory of all religion.
I’m not going to toe the line and contradict myself per the Moderate Theory
this is exactly the heart I have identified now here and now I have identified and put my finger on it
exactly precisely what the hell is going on with this moderate theory that every single stupid dumbass academic pushes?
why in the hell are every single academic adhering to the moderate entheogen Theory of Religion which asserts that never, ever were religions normally based on visionary plants – not in the middle ages, not in antiquity, and not in the archaic era ;
we must always counter-signal ourselves and contradict ourselves and do the coral rock Waffle Dance move of converting every single piece of positive evidence for visionary plants, deflect through inversion; deflection of evidence through inverting it,
to transform every proof of presence of visionary plants into the proof of absence, through inverting inversion framing; aggressive inversion framing.
just like moreso Eliade did regarding shamanism
and just like Wasson did by converting from the mushroom exclamation to the extinct ergot strain explanation!
the Moderate Entheogen Theory of Religion is all about deflecting and inverting Evidence, together with a crappy Carl Ruck ineffective, irrelevant, Wrong Theory of Mythology Interpretation by applying stupid and obsolete anthropology ordinary state-based theories, as cyberdisciple points out.
This webpage by Cybermonk is a guide to https://cyberdisciple.wordpress.com, to see what the hell is there, for the first time visible as of December 23, 2024.
Beginnings – oldest post, 2008/06/22. I started hiatus Jan. 2008 (- Sep. 2011)
Page Formats at WordPress
WordPress has two page formats:
“Pages” – URL has no date. Wider text area.
“Posts” – URL has date. Narrow text area. I don’t like “weblog” or “blog”. I’ve been missing “posts” a la the Egodeath Yahoo Group. So I’m using the WordPress term, “post” but I might also use “webpage” to refer to the WordPress “post” format.
About This Site Map
The driving idea prior to the idea of this present webpage is
I’ll bet I could jump in to cyberdisciple website and read while voice recording
I could do all kinds of interesting content by jumping in unprepared
but he has not created a site map and so we have to rely on the dubious ineffective organizations nav schemes which WordPress weblog has provided:
1) their search which gave me a terrible formatting with no summaries of the hits of the pages, at Least on mobile
2) Another arrangement they provided is “by date” – that’s of no use to me , I mean, that’s good supplemental information, but terrible for navigation.
3) And then there’s keywords, which relies on cyber disciple who I think he does apply keywords to each web blog post, but again I think
when I click a keyword on mobile, it gives me no , it’s stupid, it gives me no lines summary;
I want a list of 25 hits/pages, with two lines per page, and mobile does not give me that view.
it stupidly gives me the full entire damn articles in sequence, massive quantities, – this does not work at all.
Ever since I first examined the web log format, I thought this is really bad, making the primary navigation of the information content by date; that’s a stupid random –
date organization should be available, but should not be the primary organization scheme.
I found a great solution to this, by creating a site map : a structured static hierarchical site map, manually crafted format, at word press
and then the other scheme that is provided by weblogs is keywords
but I would have to examine the wordpress UI both on desktop and on mobile , because they are significantly different
I want to do a keyword search “show me all of his articles were all of my pages about keyword foo”
And then give me a one line short one line summary of all 25 hits
or generate some kind of a hierarchy view listing all keywords; all of the pages at the site, every single web blog page, organized somehow by keyword
this is something I have not implemented; I have only begun to experiment with applying keywords to my weblog posts at WordPress
recently due to mobile editing and needing a very streamlined low overhead unstructured with little only little structure of content creation has driven me to use wordpress weblog posts UI design, as designed, rather than only using very manually crafting intensive desktop driven manual layout to do / craft heavy custom site navigation.
including my long actually somewhat complex idea development pages which were designed to be low overhead – given a desktop keyboard and big display.
that format is low overhead, sort of in some ways, except for having to craft the table of contents entries individually.
the long idea development pages, become slow and unresponsive, and so I have to halt and create a new idea development page when it becomes too long.
also I have experienced some data loss when editing a given page with desktop and then with mobile and then with desktop- I lost data
the longer the page, the greater the risk of data loss and malfunction.
even Microsoft word has the same problem
these tools can’t handle my big long and girthy ideas
In Egodeath Mystery Show episode 121b 1:14:00, and episode 121a 8:45 (@ Idea Devmt page 13),
I criticize Letcher Hatsis for not being critical enough and debunking – he fails to debunk and attack the popular and wrong “secret Amanita theory” of ancient Greek religion.
But it would be really easy for him to tackle that: all he has to do is use the proxy principle and debunk Amanita in Eleusis, only, thereby proving that there are no mushrooms in Hellenistic religious history. 😑
The “secret Amanita theory” of Greek religion is just a pop myth that’s making the field of entheogen scholarship look like an embarrassment, and it’s really holding back the field.
This baseless, invented, pop theory, the Secret Amanita Theory of Greek religion, is probably coming from Jan Irvin (certainly not coming from Hatsis’ good buddy Carl Ruck, since Hatsis urged “But I *agree* with Carl Ruck!”).
Under Carl Ruck’s guidance, the field of entheogen scholarship has come such a long way since 1976!
I lost my train of thought when I jumped from one parallel to a different parallel while recording the show.
I was saying that cut branches and branch removal and vine maintenance was my specialty
I was talking about the dud failure disappointment Vineleaf trees that are placed in the exact Parallel with Mushroom Trees in Canterbury Psalter
and then I compared that parallelism to the Monte Cassino Manuscript
Two versions of the same scene where you have the mushroom tree on the left an exact parallel with the Branching Message Mandrake tree on the right
and as soon as I traversed that isomorphism, I forgot where I had come from, which was the topic of parallel Vineleaf Trees and Mushroom Trees in Canterbury Psalter.
but although I knew I had forgotten my train of thought, I commented that I was recording my speaking, so I would eventually be able to just listen to the playback and remember
and so that’s the answer of where I can how did I get here was from the how did I get here back at the Mandrake trees of wantacasino Manuscript?
the answer is by meta-parallel
now that I return to the original thread, it suggests Parallels such as Branching Message Trees
Vineleaf trees are a form of branching message tree, related to Branching Message entheogen tree.
so you can do things like
imagine a Mandrake tree with cut branches in parallel with a Vineleaf tree
per the 1906 book by Albert Brinckmann Trees Stylizations in Medieval Paintings, cited by Alfred Panofsky, citation censored out by Gordon Wasson, who didn’t want us to see the entire four mushroom trees which are in this comprehensive “small” book, an up-to-date book from just 120 years ago, with an entire five mentions of the word pilzbaum (mushroom trees).
The Egodeath theory 