todo: make sure add quote from my Plainc article saying “where the f is the citations, Wasson? Panofsky, hello, DO U HAVE CITATIONS while u lecture us aggressively calling mycologists “ignorant” for failing to “consult” the “competent” art historians on “this matter of art”.
CITATION NEEDED, WASSON (holding hand over mouth of academic Panofsky trying to urge REAL consulting: an actual citation!! no way! called it, in 2006 (or very nearly nailed it: i was right in both partrs of “or”: either:
A. There are no writings about pilzbaum to cite.
B. The pilzbaum writings are so pathetic, practically nothing, it’s nothing to help pilzbaum Deniers. (better suppress -Wasson)
C. Wasson failed to pass on the highly expected citations to back up Panofsky’s huge, aggressive claim, “yes we know, it’s nothing new, we already call them pilzbaum, so we’re all over it. We’ve figured it out. It’s trees.” Any scholar would instantly say: CITATION NEEDED. Panofsky wouldn’t even think of making such a definite claim without backing it up – I reasoned in 2006,
I bet there is ALMOST NO publications by “competent on this matter of art” art historian Authorities who bark forth the trained correct answer:
I DISAVOW PILZBAUM! QUICKLY!
⏱
Panofsky would HAVE to provide citations – but I doubt there are any texts to cite.
The trick-word stunt, the word “consult” suddenly means typing out a letter, or phoning your local “competent art historian” in person —
“Library research citations, what? Brink-who, never heard of him. 🤷♂️ and, you ignorant mycologist, you failed to consult a competent art historian! (and stop looking for citations to consult).” -Wasson 🤥🤞 Bluffer
🤷♂️ 🤥🤞
🥱 🥱
OH YEAH PILZBAUM WE KNOW ,TOTALLY BORINGLY FAMILIAR 🥱🥱 , “CONSULT” YOUR LOCAL ART EXPERT WHO WILL BARK AS TRAINED, “NOT MUSHROOM! DISAVOW! DISAVOW!”
Pad out those poor-quality, vague endnote citations with worthless Experts names! all barking in unison, “I DISAVOW PILZBAUM, QUICKLY!”
end note 43: “pers. corr.”
b/c the impressive author “reached out to consult” the Authority, since nothing was published by the Authority to properly CONSULT their ACADEMIC FINDINGS PUBLISHED IN WRITING, available through the library.
“Reach out and consult” means: We got nothin’, just sheer, committed, pilzbaum Denial.
We’ll readily dehumanize painters as broken-down copying machinery with no intentionality or ownership or artist freedom, and passively the art world came to accept this development — in this one case, to prop up our special-case commitment to: Never pilzbaum!
Bust out your stopwatch – can u pls bark forth FASTER the literalist Correct Response: its totally a tree, and that’s that. – those on the outside, impressed by the celerity with which they barked the “competent” reply ie reductionist OSC-based literalist, emphatically 1-dimensional – when it comes to the unique specific case of pilzbaum.
Any absurdity and empty posturing is preferable to pilzbaum!
No special case exception for pilzbaum requiring special handling in this one case.
Otherwise, we take a rich flexible approach, except for special case of pilzbaum – MUST HAVE 1-D FLATTENED MODEL OF ART, TO SHUT OUT The Mushroom [🍄😱] [picture kiddie amanita].
In other topics, Einstein-level sophistication and flexibility of multi-dimensional art interpretation – as long as it’s OSC-based and down to earth like Huggins advocates flatland OSC-exclusive emphatic literalism.
In the special case of pilzbaum, all the rules for art research change, as needed.
“Consult” citations? No, in this special case only, consult via typewriter & telephone.
Requires special handling, this pilzbaum topic.
The rules for art interpretation have changed accordingly, momentarily, for the special case of pilzbaum.
Re: non-pilzbaum topics, look how sophisticated the scholar!
Look at the feigned idiocy when it comes to the special case of pilzbaum – then only, we must have a 1D, dumbed-down, artist-insulting failure to grasp the basics of art interpretation (when pilzbaum is the topic).
Why don’t pilzbaum Deniers care at all about making sound args that can stand up to pushback and critique.
It’s all obvious logical fallacies, when it comes to pilzbaum.
The pilzbaum Deniers try to dwell on text, to constrain the artist in this special case, and the Deniers make the poorest args, based on super-obvious logical fallacies:
The topic of pilzbaum is the mother lode of spawning logical fallacies, an endless stream of logical fallacies burped forth as if “argument” into the ether, not suited for 2-way pushback, just propagated-out, broadcast 1-way, logical fallacies.
Pilzbaum Deniers transmit their ill-formed quasi-argument, presented as if argumentation, but is half silent presuppositions, a solid foundation of logical fallacies; a GALLERY OF FOLLY when it comes to pilzbaum, only.
eg Robert Bigbrain Price, Grand Lead Editor of Journal of Critical Theoretical Thinking, became an incompetent idiot when Acharya S affirmed Allegro’s SMC.
Robert M. Price then became a scrawling first-grader, failing basic scholarship, when The Mushroom rears its head.
🍄😱 📚💥🖋
Even though Price agreed w/ Allegro re: ahistoricity of Jesus.
Who went against that or me… Brown, who disrespects Allegro – more than one person disresects Ahistoricity?
Who puts down Ahistoricity? Brown, who else?
IS ANYONE OTHER THAN BROWN DISRESPECTING AHISTORICITY OF JESUS AND TREATING IT AS A LIABILITY?
Is Brown alone in treating the ahistoricity of Jesus theory as if it’s a liability? ew, yuck, that’s an ALLEGRO idea, I disavow! Disavow!”
… from above re: Panofsky:
Brinckmann you recommend twice? (better suppress this lead – Wasson Fake Academic Play-Actor, BOGUS Feigning manipulator Wasson “FATHER OF BUNKNESS IN ACADEMICS“
I updated my annotations in SOMA by Wasson, pics below, now that I know (and no longer have to speculate like in 2006) exactly how this passage about Panofsky is lying propaganda for deception.
There is much-deserved, written cussing in my SOMA book copy below, & here 🤬 – the purpose of not cussing is to cuss better, as needed.
I refuse to re-adjudicate points I already proved way back in 2006. Pilzbaum Deniers, read my 69-page article/book on the Plaincourault fresco.
My article ends with a call to ignore this entire unproductive, debate-avoiding FARCE and move forward productively, with the “secret Amanita cult” theory left in the dust as an irrelevant obstruction and dancing around the topic.
Deniers of Pilzbaum have forfeited ALL CREDIBILITY: they are stooping to lying and fraud.
Pilzbaum Affirmers are marching forward productively, leaving the pilzbaum Deniers to tilt at the Pop “secret Amanita cult” theory; both of those parties are irrelevant throwbacks stuck in 1970, irrelevant for the future of entheogen scholarship.
Ronald Huggins’ 2024 article failed to condemn Wasson for censoring Panofsky’s two letters, & failed to credit Brown.
Huggins’ excuse: Wasson’s denial didn’t stop pop Amanita books later.
Huggins thus condones & participates in lying and censorship, and has NO credibility.
Huggins 2024 shamelessly presents a “false dilemma” Conclusion section: “Literal mushroom, or literal tree? Which is it?”
Huggins: “Why don’t pilzbaum Affirmers care at all about citation accuracy?”
Hoffman: “Why don’t pilzbaum Deniers care at all about good argumentation?”
Because pilzbaum Deniers think they are merely arguing against the junk pop Secret Amanita paradigm.
Huggins failed to cite my 2006 article or Browns’ 2019 article that delivered-over Panofsky’s censored articles.
Huggins cites the Wasson archive drawer folder, to avoid crediting Browns & to excuse the huge problem, that his fellow Deniers are academic frauds and phonies, who have NO written publications about pilzbaum, for all their empty posturing and chastising (while censoring their lone, pathetic, thin publication – in the singular).
The pilzbaum Deniers are unequipped to debate the concept of the Explicit Cubensis paradigm, or any neutral set of Christians simply using entheogens, without dragging in the unhelpful concept of “secret cult”.
Deniers say “Why no texts?”
Good question: Why have “competent” art historians written NO PUBLICATIONS about pilzbaum?
Why did Wasson censor the one, single, outdated, “little”, flimsy publication?
WHERE ARE THE TEXTS ABOUT PILZBAUM BY COMPETENT ART HISTORIANS?
The Deceivers, I mean the Deniers, forfeit the debate; they are bad faith arguers who condone Wasson’s academic fraud & deception.
Wasson was caught red-handed DECEIVING people and insulting mycologists while deceptively, repeatedly stabbing them in the back by withholding the Brinckmann citation that was TWICE urged by Panofsky.
Where does Wasson mention TWO letters and the 1st had two pilzbaum pics attached?
This is a great example of LYING by omission.
5 Things Censored in Panofsky by Deceiver Wasson, Lying by Omission
Brinckmann citation 1.
A 990 miniature showing the start of development from pine to mushroom
A 1200s glass painting showing an emphatic mushroom crown/ cap
Letter 2.
Brinckmann citation 2.
Every word Wasson writes about “consult” is an evil manipulative lie & deception, otherwise Wasson would have provided LIBRARY PUBLICATION CITATIONS.
Wasson’s lying, deceptive bluff & talk of “consult” is deep chicanery and dissimulation.
Totally improper anti-academic practice.
Totally non-standard academic practice, specially for pilzbaum only.
For no other topic are we directed, stopwatch in hand, to measure the impressive celerity with which they QUICKLY bark the trained correct response, “I DISAVOW pilzbaum!”
What bad direction (misdirection) from Wasson, to “consult” personally the top authorites. Wildly inappropriate and nonstandard.
Where is the damn citation, Wasson, liar, deceiver?!
Shut up about “consult” and HAND OVER THE FLIMSY CITATION – busted Wasson, FRAUD.
Art historians are allegedly “competent”, yet they have written NOTHING on the topic?
Then they are incompetent!
Cough up the damn citation & two pilzbaum, JERK!
Instead of lecturing “you failed to consult”.
Why in the hell would I bother & phone & write & harass & interrogate art historians, when they are so manifestly ignorant & incompetent, they write NOTHING on this topic?
Or we discover how PATHETIC the writings of the competent art historians: a single “little” book, way outdated 1906, not even in English.
THIS is the foundation for “consulting” the “competent” authorities?
Brinckmann shows development from pine to mushroom, which PROVES the purposelessness of the mushroom imagery.
Development proves pilzbaum can’t mean mushroom.
n o n
s e q u i t u r
Also, branching proves that our ‘pilzbaum’ (art historians’ descriptor) don’t look at all like mushrooms.
– unless art purposes psychedelic eternalism as non-branching, per branching-message mushroom trees; {mushrooms}, {branching}, {handedness}, and {stability} motifs together integrated.
What bull shit! 🐮💩🍄🟫 GTFO fraud Wasson,
the Father of Deception About European Ethnomycology
As I wrote in 2006, in my Plaincourault article; Find “citation” there.
Wasson’s reputation has been cast into the Lake of Fire 🔥
CITATION FKKING NEEDED, JERK WASSON FRAUD
SOMA 1968, by Liar Deceiver Wasson, Anti-Academic
Cybermonk Dec 2, 2024
mind those ellipses … <–
Compare:
Line 3 of the Panofsky excerpt, “unknown of course to mycologists. . . .“
Line 3 of the next paragraph, “refrained from consulting the art world”:
“It comes about by the gradual schematization of the impressionistically rendered Italian pine tree in Roman and Early Christian painting, and there are hundreds of instances exemplifying this development – unknown, of course, to mycologists. [replaced by …:] If you are interested, I recommend a little book by A. E. Brinckmann, Die Baumdarstellung im Mittelalter (or something like it), where the process is described in detail. Just to show what I mean, I enclose two specimens: a miniature of ca. 990 which shows the inception of the process, viz., the gradual hardening of the pine into a mushroom-like shape, and a glass painting of the thirteenth century, that is to say about a century later than your fresco, which shows an even more emphatic schematization of the mushroom-like crown. What the mycologists have overlooked is that the medieval artists hardly ever worked from nature but from classical prototypes which in the course of repeated copying became quite unrecognizable.”
Wasson replaced the highlighted content by ellipses while at the very same time berating mycologists as ignorant and needing to “consult” art historians, as a pretense; a bluff; a put-on; an affectation, to deceive and obstruct investigation.
Dating My Handwriting
mixed-case handwriting = 1991-2007; shown is 2006.
Download for only 3 days starting Dec. 1, 2024: https://we.tl/t-yTb0RVzdYT I might refresh the download link on Dec. 4, because it changed from 7 days to only 3 days, and it’s a good 4-hour episode. Files: Four 1-hour voice mp3’s (parts a, b, c, d), & 1 guitar .mp3 (part G, 5 minutes):
Part A: “Ep263a Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 53:38
Part B: “Ep263b Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 57:17
Part C: “Ep263c Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 54:40
Part D: “Ep263d Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 1:00:42
Part G: “Ep263G Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 5:06 (two parts; first half says Egodeath Mystery Show)
Good stereo room miking.
4 hours of voice recording with Great Content, Delivery, and Miking
This recording is valuable: I’m at a peak of reviewing scholarship about the Secret Amanita paradigm reviewing books including:
McKenna – Food of the Gods – what is his view about Wasson’s theory of the “secret Amanita cult” spread? What is his view about Allegro? He doesn’t cite Ruck.
Letcher – Good/bad book Shroom, conflating the versions of the “secret Amanita cult” theory held by different scholars, with the general idea of Christian mushroom use. 4 specific critiques, conflated with broad dismissal.
Wasson’s views
Ruck’s views, maybe less than the above.
Perfect, photo of scholarship May 27, 2023: In publishing order: exceptions:
it’s a stack of 3 issues of Entheos,
AstroSham is 2006 on top, 2009 2nd ed. underneath.
John Rush is 2nd Ed ~2022, placed as if 2011.
Not shown is Freke & Gandy The Jesus Mysteries 1999 I think – highly influential for me in 1999 upon entering entheogen scholarship. Has only a half page on entheogens, b/c publisher censored (per my in-person, underground meeting with them) – DO NOT CROSS THE ALLEGRO STREAMS OF AHISTORICITY AND ENTHEOGENS! Freke also wrote about no-free-will in one of his books, and more about entheogens / psychedelics in another book.
Recorded as 4.5 continuous hours of voice recording with Great Content, Delivery, and Miking
The original recording is a single 4.5-hour tracking session, that ran over the 3:22:00 length to create 2nd .wav file, contiguous.
So there is not much reason to say which of the two .wav files made it into part a/b/c/d.
It’s a single recording session later manually broken up into 4 pieces.
Content, Files, Timestamps
Content of parts a-d is initially unknown, other than notes below and in Corruption of Art webpage.
Part B: 30:00 – the the “secret Amanita cult” theory is actually Sociology theory / Anthropology theory disguised as entheogen scholarship.
These writers’ driving main purpose is to recite the Oppressor/Oppressed narrative, the evil Prohibitionist Mainstream Church vs. the good Psychedelic Counterculture Heretics.
The topic of psychedelics and repeal is merely a means to that end.
Repeal of Prohibition is ignored b/c it doesn’t help emphasize the main point & motivation of the Secret Amanita writers, which is the permanent narrative of Oppressor/Oppressed.
We can even allow the oppressor elites to have Secret Amanita:
Quote the Conclusion section’s sentence 1 in Irvin 2006 AstroSham: “Mystery entheogens were always held secret for kings, priests, and the elite.”
Irvin deleted that sentence from 2nd Ed of AstroSham after Irvin’s lecturing [THM p. 105, 2008] against Ruck’s “attempt to restrict entheogens” which is “completely unfounded; Christianity [mainstream] itself is based on entheogens.”
Quote later Ruck Effluents of Deity where Ruck switches from allowing his Heretical Sects from having Secret Amanita, to now assigning Secret Amanita to elites withholding their secret from the oppressed masses of normal lay Christians.
Part A: “Ep263a Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 53:38
0:00 – Intro. “76 intro VOX_TK_5476”. Guitar for 19 s, then add voice: “Egodeath Mystery Show. with Cybermonk. leading edge. May 23, 2023. sites”
1:03 – What am I up to? Wishing for details about Saint Eustace Crossing the River. ~
5:00 –
10:00 –
12:00 – Why do they ALWAYS say “cults”, “cult”???? WTF! What is the functional purpose of all entheogen scholars ALWAYS writing “cults”, “sects”, “communities”, “societies”, “initiates group”.
Are we doing ANTHROPOLOGY, or ENTHEOGENS – or the PSYCHEDELICS topic?
An exercise in identify formation for the scholar, as W Hanegraaff criticizes? Scholars who fail to be scientific pretend to do history about “them”, but are actually doing an exercise in self-definition. Esotericism and the Academy book by WH.
It never crossed my mind to use the word ‘cult’. My success was because of not using such overhead complications. “Cult” means to them, religiuos use that is not institutionalized, …
Why is my thinking not contaminated by all this confusion, though everyone in the field is thoroughly infected by this mental handicap?
Inferior entheogen scholars always use odd “singular” telltale: “the cult”, “the mushroom”, “the theory”.
15:00 –
McKenna exposes Wasson admitting that Amanita never worked for him. Was a disappointment, and does not support his theories at all. Just as I’ve said.
Theorists get hypnotized by their own ritual retelling of their tales every day. Repeat the narrative until you brainwashed yourself.
Letcher says he had to plaster Amanita pics on his book cover, bc that art sells books.
19:00 – what narrative is Letcher, Allegro, Wasson, McKenna, Ruck narrative?
The Bernward Debacle for Letcher and the Field
This field is not about psychedelics.
The degnerate field of entheogen scholarship is all about Secrecy; entheogens = Secrecy.
Let’s just discard entheogens, and like Letcher, debate & reason & argue only in terms of Secrecy.
Was Secrecy, or was secrecy not? That’s the debate, to them – it’s not a debate about entheogens.
Bad entheogen scholars reason based on Secrecy, not based on Mushrooms.
28:00 – Irvin in THM 2008 had to go out of his way to tell ppl to drop the Secrecy component.
Conflation of Secrecy Has Been Conflated with Entheogens
Entheogens and secrecy have been disastrously conflated.
The worst Letcher arg’n ever.
Critical Analysis, argumentation about Bernward doors, a broad-ranging correction of the field of entheogen scholarship , is found here in Letcher’s mistreatment of Bernward door:
The world is divided; Letcher imagines that both debaters agree the way the world is structured/ divided: a perpetual battle between psychedelic underground vs. mainstream institutional Prohibitionists.
This is taken as the permanent state of reality; how reality divides.
Letcher, Hatsis, Huggins, and I criticize the field of entheogen scholarship — there’s too much junk clogging the field, at odds purposes – what are we trying to accomplish? Effective Repeal?
The field of entheogen scholarship is overrun by a shared presupposition that the main way the world is structured is divided as an opposition between TWO GROUPS OF People: mainstream institutional prohibitionists; the counterculture underground cult.
Was there transcendent experiences
Everyone is weaving sky castles and then getting lost in them.
“Amanita = Europe; Psilocybin = Americas”.
History = drama tale of battle/ opposition/ division between mainstream institutional prohibitionists vs. the counterculture underground cult.
Do not use concept of “counterculture”, or “mainstream”, or combination.
underground counterculture cult heretical sects
These narratives are fake, not real.
Throw Your Drama Social Narratives in the Trash Can, you don’t care about the chemical effects. Two opposed social groups, is your presupposition.
What narratives are entheogen scholars pushing?
The Master Shared Paradigm: Dividing the World, as “Secret Amanita vs. Mainstream Prohibition”
25:00 – Ruck is interested in Secret, not Amanita; Amanita is merely a means to the end, of Secret.
therefore Bernward Door can’t have them inserted secretly, therefore, not mushrooms
John Rush 2nd Ed, back of book: contradictory two narratives.
Make 3 assertions, but then give a general narrative that contradicts those 3 detailed assertions.
the narrative completely contradicts the specifics. “Church got rid of entheogens. AND, evidence A, B, & C of mushrooms in the Church.”
20:00 –
21:00 – Letcher book Shroom is pretty good if keep track of who he is critiquing: Letcher criticizes Wasson re: point X. Letcher criticizes Allegro re: point X. Letcher criticizes Ruck re: point X. Letcher criticizes McKenna re: point X. Letcher criticizes general theory of Christianity history entheogens use.
McKenna criticizes Wasson re: point X. McKenna criticizes Allegro re: point X. McKenna criticizes Ruck[?] re: point X. check index of Food of the Gods for “Ruck”: nothing! A good Biblio, lots of entries, well-read – yet no Ruck!
In mid-2023, it was great to re-read the books & articles while keeping track of the above distinctions.
25:00 – Why does everyone but me TALK WEIRD? I have a domain-appropriate conceptual vocabulary.
30:00 –
35:00 –
40:00 –
45:00 – Letcher’s book Shroom rebuts 5 theories:
Wasson’s scenario – on p. __, Letcher specifically rebuts Allegro’s version of the “secret Amanita cult” theory. A single Amanita cult spread from Ural mountains from a single cult. John Lash dislikes this theory, despite being an extreme fanboi of Wasson; Lash accepts some nauseatingly broad conception of “the Wasson theory” (any ideas of entheogens ever, by anyone — and its opposite — comes from Wasson and belongs to Wasson – including “theories that are a considerable departure from Wasson’s theory”), yet Lash totally dismisses this as “Wasson’s specific theory”.
Allegro’s scenario – on p. __, Letcher specifically rebuts Allegro’s version of the “secret Amanita cult” theory.
Ruck’s scenario – on p. __, Letcher specifically rebuts Ruck’s version of the “secret Amanita cult” theory.
McKenna’s scenario – on p. __, Letcher specifically rebuts McKenna’s version of the “secret Amanita cult” theory.
The General Theory abstracted from those four authors: on p. __, Letcher generally rebuts a generalized version of the “secret Amanita cult” theory.
What is the narrative from SMC Allegro, about … Even Allegro covers psilocybin. Schoarlship shifted: 1952 Panof, 1957 Russia Wasson book, 1968 SOMA, 1970 Allegro. By 1970, in Europe context, theorizing was still exclusively in terms of Amanita in Europe, never Psilocybin mushrooms. EUROPE MUSHROOM = AMANITA.
— until Samorini 1996-1997-1998, put equial emph on Psil & Aman.
48:00 – What is Wasson’s narrative about the relation of the spread of “the secret Amanita cult”, to get to his America tradition of Psilocybin?
Read McKenna 1992 FotG critqiue of Wasson
Read Lash’s critique of “Wasson’s specific theory” (ie Amanita cult spread), which Lash rejects and dislikes/resents.
50:00 – Wasson had relations with a woman in U.S., who reported that the Secret Amanita Cult spread from the Ural mountains to the U.S. Letcher, and maybe everyone, ridicules this theory – and act like they’ve disproved as the same thing, mushrooms in Europe Christianity history, conflating that most-general scenario with Wasson’s narrowest scenario.
That forms a Motte-and-Bailey fallacy:
The worthless Motte, easy to defend, is rejection of the “secret Amanita cult” spread theory. Any scholar can easily reject the theory of spread of a secret Amanita cult.
The wished-to-defend Bailey is rejection of the entire idea of Europe Christianity history use of mushrooms. No one is able to make a credible rejection of all mushroom use in Europe Christianity history; Deniers are forced to use logical fallacies.
53:38 – end
The Right foot of lion in “Saint Eustace Crossing the River”, the lion’s Right paw/foot was touching the branching tree of the YI Cubensis tree pair — isn’t that bad? The non-branching Cube tree on the right is good, and the branching Cube tree on the left is bad?
Errata for Part A
No silence at end; abrupt end in mid-sentence.
Part B: “Ep263b Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 57:17
0:00 –
2:00 – everyone agrees cow is holy bc psilocybin. Those entheogen scholars however, never assert the absurd “there are no cubensis on cow dung in England” – who is willing to think and assert that? No one has thought to look into it.
In Great Canterbury Psalter f134 Row 2 Right, I didn’t think to look at the mushroom dispensary bin; I assumed it was wheat, and never looked at it, for years while studying the picture.
5:00 Ep263b – Deceptive folk tale factoid “no Cubensis in Europe/England”. Everyone just knows this, no one dare say such nonsense directly.
McKenna wrote in Food of the Gods, nobody can figure out why there’s no Psilocybin mushroom in Europe, but there’s tons and tons of Secret Amanita Cult there.
That’s because it’s bullshitical nonsense!
Folk tales of the entheogen scholars – as Letcher Hatsis Huggins himself exclaims and battles against.
SCIENCE IS WAY OVERESTIMATED; WE DON’T KNOW SHIITE; WE DON’T HAVE ANY CONCLUSIONS ABOUT ANYTHING; the field of entheogen scholarship is way overconfident about “what everyone knows”.
Everyone is wrong about everything.
Didn’t you get the memo? Our Tradition Is 3rd-Rate, Secret Amanita 🤫🍄
10:00 Ep263b – a spread of an ancient underground Secret Amanita cult
Faddish Thinking, Unthinking Meme Hosts
12:00 Ep263b – entheogen scholars, confabulators of history, what the hell does your word “cult” supposed to mean? What am I expected to picture?
wtf are you talking about so confidently?
What are you employing obsessed by this word “cult”, or “counterculture”, or “underground” in the same manner as you employ “cult”.
All of these hypothetical confabulated constructions, and Letcher employs same terms, “cult”, socially shared abstractions that everybody other than me seems to be in on this shared, common lexicon.
My expl: You are all watching tv and hypnozing each other, and left out of your guyses confusion. “cult”??
You are all spreading memes to each other, free-floating baseless conceptual constructs.
You’re all hypnotizing each other drifting off in a circle lost,
The “Social Conflict” Paradigm of Entheogen Scholarship
18:00 Ep263b –
Telling your stock, fabricated construct stories, folk tale narratives of the entheogen scholars: “secret cult tradition mainstream counterculture underground” – ALL IRRELEVANT. The less used, the better the vision.
Presentism, literalist OSC-based reading.
Read Letcher’s critique of “cultural evolution” in Shroom
Letcher’s critique of : Allegro & especially Wasson employed an already outdated academic construct called “cultural evolution” – read Shroom re: that term.
18:00 Ep263b – writing thousands of books by all exoteric thinkers, all sharing a massive category error, the Genre Question: historical reportage? or description of psychedelic eternalism in terms of …. entheogen scholarship is driven by a paradigm of “social conflict”
20:00 Ep263b –
30:00 –
40:00 –
50:00 –
54:00 Ep263b – Is Ruck asserting that Amanita is the engine of mixed wine mystery religion initiation? Mixed messages between his splattering Amanitas all over their book covers.
All authors are confused about what they are asserting: often they sell the narrative VERY forcefully, many examples Rutajit “Amanita is the most powerful thing EVAR” (no credibility).
Ruck: “They used Amanita. Or any junk they could get ahold of.”
What is your story? Conflicting narratives.
Book covers have extreme narrative pushing Amanita The Secret Magic Holy Sacred Mushroom:
King of the Entheogens for Exoteric Esotericists 🙌 👑🍄🤫
1:00:00 Ep263b –
A social drama narrative is the only thing the Secret Amanita entheogen scholars care about – not Psychedelics or Repeal of Prohibition.
Social fantasy words (“secret”, “heretical sects”) prevent comprehending sheer presence of Psilocybin in W Culture; Christian history, Christendom.
Letcher Hatsis Huggins is correct that Pop theory of Secret Amanita needs to be disproved. That is NOT the same thing as disproving or addressing the distinct position/theory, Explicit Cubensis, per Samorini 1997, Michael Hoffman 2002, Browns 2016. which is a different, better version of the “mushrooms in Christian art” theory.
The “mushrooms in Christian art” theory.
Secret Amanita theory – cult, spread, Wasson, rejected by John Lash as “Wasson’s specific theory”.
Explicit Cubensis theory
Debunking of the mere Secret Amanita theory pretends to be debunking of the “mushrooms in Christian art” theory. They are not the same – narrow vs general. A different narrow/specific version of the mushroom in Christian art theory is Explicit Cubensis, which has NOT been addressed by the pop-trash-level “debunkers” – cheap Letcher, cheap Hatsis, cheap Huggins.
Trash-Huggins arg’n covers up Wasson’s ACADEMIC FRAUD CENSORSHIP. TAKE Takeaway: Deniers have to stoop to deception, censorship, and deviant academic method “The ignorant mycologists ought to have reached out to consult competent art historians” — instead of the proper, COUGH UP THE DAMN CITATIONS/PILZBAUM ELECTROSTATS FROM PANOFSKY, WASSON! the Father of Obstructing European Ethnomycology.
Which narrative are you guys (Secret Amanita tale-tellers) pushing:
The Mainstream Prohibitionists oppressed the Psychedelic Heretics
The Elite oppressed the Lay and withheld the secret Amanita from the oppressed lay masses (AstroSham 2006, Ruck: Effluents of Deity 2012)
Lash is a Psilo guy. He’s against Wasson’s Secret Amanita story-tale fairytale narrative fantasy. Lash is a debunker of Secret Amanita – and an advocate of Explicit Cubensis (article “Discovery of a Lifetime”; series of 5+3 articles).
Does Lash employ the “secret” or “suppression” concepts/ would-be explanatory constructs? How well does Lash fit my Explicit Cubensis paradigm?
the Secret Amanita paradigm [SAP]
the Explicit Cubensis paradigm [ECP]
“ForagedWild wrote review: 1 of 5 stars – Where is the DVD? Reviewed July 12, 2023 – I really like the book but it was shipped without the DVD. It’s an integral piece of this work. I wish I would have read the book when I bought it, but never got around to it until over a year later, only to notice that it’s missing the DVD, like other reviewers have mentioned. Really sucks to spend this much on a book and DVD, only to get half your order.”
Brown 2019 article wrote “Ruck book has no gallery of images”. I wrote recently: Isn’t this an other Brown mistake? Book’s blurb says “DVD”, isn’t that gallery? Answer: There’s no DVD, despite the blurb. d/k if I own this book.
27:00 – End the field of “entheogen scholarship” which is actually secret entheogen scholarship. –as Irvin and I discussed 2006 and Irvin wrote 2008 in THM: we must separate, not conflate, the question of secret usage vs sheer usage.
Stop welding together the “secrecy” idea & the entheogens idea. Stop studying history of “secret use of entheogens”; just study the history of “use of entheogens”.
Don’t leverage the word “secret”, “cult”, “heretical sects”, “mainstream” or “counterculture”. per the Secret Amanita paradigm (two versions:
The mainstream Prohibitionists elites suppressed heretical psychedelics underground “groups”.
Voiced by Ruck 2001a & b: article Conjuring Eden in Entheos Issue 1, “Daturas for the Virgin” in Entheos Issue 2 2001.
secret elites withheld psychedelics, suppressing the non-psychedelic lay masses.
Voiced by Irvin AstroSham 2006, Ruck Effluents of Deity 2012.
40:00 Ep263b – critique of Dittrich’s dimension name, “Dread of Ego Dissolution” [DED], “Angst of Ego Dissolution” [AED]. “ego dissolution” too vague. not helpful. not false, but not helpful. Engineering communication can do better. Highly inadequate. “Psilocybin dissolves the ego boundary.” vague crude folk theory. inadequate, not helpful.
“Pscilobyin dissolves the ego boundary; resisting causes bad trip; Surrender”
That’s Not Wrong, But it’s not helpful/ useful.
Your Theory Sucks, Because Your Theory is not useful; it’s Not Helpful; Not Relevant
Ep263b
You have only merely begun explaining the dynamics.
The Reference effects are ergot & Psilocybin. What I say about Liquid or Psilocybin is same.
PSILOCYBIN SUGAR CUBE
43:30 Ep263b – What is the cognitive effect of Psilocybin? Evidence reports from 1000 AD to 2023 now, here is the cognitive effect of psil: causes STAND ON RIGHT FOOT.
Loose Cog makes you explore the threat of control loss that drives mental model transformation from possibilism to eternalism
from: analogical psychedelic eternalism with dependent control to: literalist ordinary-state possibilism with autonomous control
Christopher Partridge’s Gap-Filled False History of Contemporary Psychedelics, Criticized by Hanegraaff & Cybermonk
45:00 Ep263b – awful eliminative periodization – Wouter Hanegraaff criticizes C Partridge’s bad periodization regurgitating propaganda.
Hane’s list of things CP omitted; my list of same.
per CP, there was ONLY sugar cubes in 1967, then no psychedelics. Then blotter in 1975, then no psychedelics. Then 1990s, MDMA. then nothing. Then the next pop peak trend according to such story telling. and then no one uses psychedelics.
That’s Modern Psychedelics History according to the Moderate/Minimal Entheogen Theory of Religion.
Skip, skip, skip psychedelic newage, skip 1970s/1980s Psychedelic Shamanism; skip the blotter Rock Lyrics 1964-1994, 30 years of blotter-powered and sugar-cube powered lyrics describing the loose cog eternalism state. non-branching eternalism state with 2-level, dependent control.
The completed perfected initiate is made non-dying, athanatos, able to enter through the loose cog gate and retain viable personal control as virtual-only agent, locus of intention and effort and will and steering.
Able to move yourself through virtual branching eternalism steering of control, while known virtual-only;
Dependent control, uncontrollable thought-injector, fountain of control-thoughts in the frozen rock cave
You get used to it, learn Balance, learn to HAVE egoic thinking and USE that, but in an adult mature way, a transcendent thinking way.
Per early Ken Wilber, “you” differentiate “yourself” from lower thinking, the egoic control system.
You continue to effectively USE child thinking but not “rely” ultimately on that; rely on the true actual upstream Source of control.
The ‘Source’ is a Hanegraaff word in his 2022 psychedelic hermetism book.
The uncontrollable Source of control thoughts perceived in the loose-cog Heimarmene experiential state.
Michael Hoffman – Hermetic Spirituality and the Historical Imagination: Altered States of Knowledge in Late Antiquity
Hermetic Spirituality and the Historical Imagination: Altered States of Knowledge in Late Antiquity
Wouter Hanegraaff
washed in the uncontrollable Fountain of thoughts flowing from the non-branching tree.
Philosophers Beside the Tree – Splendor Solis
3 versions of S. S. – I COULD DO BETTER. MOAR MUSHROOM, MOAR CUT RIGHT BRANCH, MOAR WEIGHT-ON-RIGHT-FOOT
[Dec 3 2024 8:30 pm seems deeper water river grokking] Washed in the fountain at river from king tree trunk crowned.
Solve branching puzzle, get dragon, penetrate shell of eternalism heimarmene snake-bounded cosmic rock egg Amanita egg form stage
Ruck’s Mithras article in Entheos 3, 2002.
Mithras born from Ulansey’s cosmic rock bounded by zodiac star groups penetrated by Mithras,
Mithras is born from Amanita in egg stage form = cosmic heimarmene Rock = heimarmene snake frozen in rock / bounding the cosmic rock bounded by zodiac/ celestial sphere; penetrate that, SALVATION, CLEANSING, HEALING, WASHED CLEAN.
AstroSham 2006
Ep263b
Bottom has washing pool bath
Mushrooms at Feet
Hanging on Cut Right Branch, Statuary Pool Gate
Ep263b
the whole thing is a gateway [9:07 pm Dec 3 2024] – in this version, gate is close to viewer, before bath; other versions, the gate is the back wall, for less effect.
Observed the gate imagery in that version after thinking about:
statue women rulers washed to marble statuary
moving statue authorized rulers in conformity with eternalism loose cog psychedelic eternalism control restabilization.
authorized rulers in conformity with eternalism loose cog psychedelic eternalism control restabilization
eternalism loose cog psychedelic eternalism control restabilization
loose cog eternalism
psychedelic eternalism
control restabilization based on eternalism
control restabilization based on loose-cognitive psychedelic eternalism
The Uncontrollable Fountain of Control-Thoughts
Ep263b
Thoughts Washing Personal Control Clean and Healed in Right Controllership
the Psilocybin Teacher of Cybernetic Righteousness
Golden Teacher of Righteousness
eternalism loose cog psychedelic eternalism control restabilization
restabilizing control so as to become compatible with the Test State of Consciousness:
to test your cleanness of control thinking, restabilize personal control on the basis of non-branching, rather than branching. Affirm non-branching; rely on non-branching eternalism block universe frozen time heimarmene time timeless superdeterminism block Rock; marble snake sculpted on a marble zodiac rock with Mithras born forth and turning the zodiac aside, breaking heimarmene fatedness; and lifting Sol up in a psychedelic mad loosecog banquet. Trans-rational to control based on the fountain of thoughts
Quote
Ep263b
Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city.
Rev 22:14
Crown = YOU ARE AN AUTHORIZED WASHED-CLEAN BY TREE RULER STEERSMAN CYBERNETICIST
PSYCHEDELIC CYBERNETICIST
ENLIGHTENED ABOUT CYBERNETICS IN THE LOOSE COG STATE – literally stand on right foot; stand on eternalism non-branching.
Stand Right Foot on Ground of Non-branching, to Keep Control; Left Foot on Ground of Branching Possibilities Causes Loss of Control
Ep263b
ETERNALISM CYBERNETICS
Rev 22:14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city.”
You end up with full ability to assert yourself – as authorized cleansed virtual ego agent, laboring every day under egoic control steering power, even if consciously virtual-only.
90% of psychedelics history is skipped by Chris Partridge.
A terrible job of doc’ing Pop Cult, in his book Contemp Esotericism.
More gaps than presences.
Only lists the alleged climaxes of pop sike usage.
As if when not a pop cult climax year, “psychedelics use doesn’t exist”. CP only gives a pop-level history of isolated peaks, not of ongoing trajectory. And he misses many of the peaks, that aren’t in the official Narrative of absence. Fails Hanegraaff criteria for science-based historiography; it’s narrative-based instead.
/timestamps notes Ep263b
Part C: “Ep263c Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 54:40
What exactly is Wasson asserting? The Wassons covered enths in our own cultural history” – in ancient India, WTF?? See my Plainc article at Egodeath.com.
No, Wasson, you actively covered UP European Psilocybin and Amanita use.
the Egodeath theory has no narrative component, just “there was a heyday of {mushrooms}, {branching}, {handedness}, and {stability} motifs 900-1300 AD.”
The Explicit Cubensis paradigm asserts the simple presence of entheogens use by Christians, not a narrative of constructing various Bad Guys vs. Good Guys cartoon crayon-drawn incoherent narrative of oppression, drawing/ constructing group boundary wall barriers. The storytelling done by historians, against Hanegraaff’s methodology he advocates, strict empiricism: WHAT DID THE AUTHOR MEAN FOR HIS AUDIENCE? Not telling our own tales projected onto history.
9:00 – p 211 , Reidlinger, The Sacred Mushroom Seeker (about Wasson) – R is against the word ‘entheogens’.
Dirty greedy broad vague terms used to confuse ppl: “sacred fungi” = ergot, psilocybin, & Amanita.
Confusing, used to mislead and deceive and glue together a broken model and hide the gaps/failures.
McKenna rejects the word ‘entheogens’ as freighted with theological baggage.
McKenna Food of the Gods puts down the word ‘entheogen’ b/c RELIGION IS BAD, per the oppressor/oppressed narrative.
14:50 ~ per mobile – funny caricature of their complicated social narrative sky castles, vs. my simple claim.
17:00 the bigger problem is “secret oppressed cult group” – not Amanita. Amanita appears to be the problem, but root problem is actually Secret, not Amanita.
Letcher’s 2006 book, Shroom, I immediately noticed in 2007, Letcher’s Bernward door argument – see my book review at Amazon U.S.
Letcher’s book Shroom was published in UK 2006 by Faber and Faber. I have the first printing in US, hardcover: 2007, HarperCollins.
25:00 Irvin THM falsely claims that Panofsky’s (1952) “hundreds of mushroom trees” were affirmed by Allegro.
In 1996-1998, Samorini finally followed that lead – not Allegro. I entered entheogen scholarship in 1999.
Samorini later mailed me his 1997 & 1998 articles, but illegible Brown-certified unreadable pictures.
Identify Explicitly the Position Stance Bias of Each Author
Lash is anti-Christianity, anti-Amanita, against Wasson’s “specific Amanita cult spread” theory, pro-Psilocybin. When he critiques pop theory the “secret Amanita cult” theory.
Wasson is protecting Christianity from mushrooms (Aman, also Psil);
Ruck is anti-Christianity, starts off w/ narrative of prohibitionist elites vs entheogenic heretic “sects”; later switches to narrative of entheogen-using elites withholding Secret Amanita from the lay masses (like Irvin AstroSham 2006).
Brown & I & Cyberdisciple are protecting Christianity with Psil (also Aman) mushrooms
35:00 Daturas Entheos 2 2001, Ruck & Gonzalez p. 56 – I read aloud, per Irvin’s critique on THM p. 104, the “Wasson’s Conclusion” passage.
49:00 – Wasson is quoted by Joan Hallifax, where in 1979, Wasson calls for repeal of Prohibition. Full uncensored quote. Probably from Reidlinger’s book The Sacred Mushroom Seeker.
50:00 – I accussed Ruck & the “secret Amanita cult” theory & the Amanita Primacy Fallacy, as they have never done ANYTHING to support repeal of Psilocybin Prohibition; too busy pushing their narrative of perpetual suppression / crybaby defeatism, self-inflicted.
54:00 – McKenna book Food of the Gods. Positions he argues for and against.
The Secret Amanita paradigm entheogen scholarship is all about re-telling their narrative of permanent inherent Prohibition by the mainstream, against the underground secret cult tradition counterculture sect community groups in eternal opposition against the mainstream Prohibitionists.
So don’t ever think of Repeal of our Prohibition narrative that we have married, constructed, & reified as our invested, our conflict of interest; our identity narrative – we would evaporate.
Part D: “Ep263d Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 1:00:42
This Part/segment ends by returning to the initial topic of recording the contiguous pair of tracks (a single 4-hour live voice recording session).
0:00 – Intro – “77 int-outro VOX_TK_5477”
0:21 – Content – “VOX_TK_5477”
10:00 “Cubensis grows on cowpies in subtropical regions” – FALSE, the latter qualifier.
Stamets’ Psilocybin mushroom of the world book fails to make his claim EXPLICITLY that allegedly Cubensis doesn’t grow on cowpies in Europe/England.
Entheogen scholarship is non-scientific.
This is how shoddy, worthless, wrong, prejudiced, biased, & confused entheogen scholarship is.
20:00 – Letcher’s book Shroom. Its contributions and limitations.
Social-driven narrative vs caring about Psychedelics effects.
The Pop audience focuses far more on social driven narrative, not Psychedelic effects.
My approach, in contrast – Letcher is incapable of imagining; my view is on a different planet:
Myth depicts Psil effects; Myth depicts the cognitive transformation effect from psilocybin; we have copious evidence proving how the mind works when exposed to Psil, and evidence for Psil effect in myth & religion.
I reject any use of “cult”, “secret”, “mainstream”, “suppressed”.
We have ample evidence for Psilocybin Eternalism in myth and in cultural history.
we have to reject the vocab (Feyerabend book?) a video about Feyer & phil o sci? Avoid vocab – by Eastern Europ guy about programming langs, and has examples from coding langs. sllides show why we cannot employ words from a previous paradigm/theory. We cannot use the lexicon from the old theory, bc that lex is laden w/ connotation network. We must use lexicon from new theory, to escape from old connot network/ meaning-network. Letcher Hatsis Huggins put forth a rejection that’s from within the lexicon of the Old Theory so I cannot Agree nor Disagree, with their way of thinking, for or against the Old Pop Theory (the Secret Amanita paradigm).
we are in incommensurable paradigm ie
Letcher’s position is Debunk Secret Amanita paradigm. = Letcher 2006; Hatsis 2013; Huggins 2024.
The Pop position is Secret Amanita paradigm eg .Wasson 1957, Allegro 1970, Ruck 1976, McKenna 1992, Irvin 2006, young Hatsis, John Rush 2011.
The v1 paradigm of entheogen scholarship is grotesquely mis-centered on a battle between prohibitionist mainstream vs. secret amanita counterculture.
My position is Explicit Cubensis paradigm. Samorini 1996; Hoffman 2002, Brown 2016.
Point not in recording: [Dec. 2, 2024 5:09 pm]: The 2001 “Conjuring Eden” article in Entheos Issue 1 conjoins the Secret Amanita paradigm & the Explicit Cubensis paradigm.
The article brings in Samorini 1998 article and his psilocybin evidence, and brings in Paul Lindgren’s 2000 Great Canterbury Psalter findings (f11).
By Issue 2 2001, Daturas article shrinks back down toward the the Secret Amanita paradigm.
Issue 1 broadens Amanita “the mushroom” to slightly include Psilocybin, in a merely minor, secondary, supporting role.
Issue 1 broadens Amanita “the mushroom” to slightly include Datura — instead of Psilocybin — in a merely minor, secondary, supporting role.
30:00 –
I said Psilocybin mushrooms are present in Christian history. I never asserted that “secret” mushrooms are present in Christian history.
40:00 –
Did Irvin have color pic of dancing man? in THM: yes, but Blue-to-Red shift; corrupted; Ruck said “has a red cap” to shut up the naysayers. HUGE Ruck mistake, discredited the Secret Amanita paradigm.
I agree with the Debunkers of the Secret Amanita paradigm re: denying that paradigm. I disagree w/ the Debunkers paradigm…. [the Secret Amanita paradigm [DSAP]
the Secret Amanita paradigm [SAP] – Huggins’ acro: PMTs = psychedelic mushrooms in Christian art theorists. Notice the lack of “secret” in his acronym — that’s the Motte and Bailey fallacy. Huggins actually argues against the Secret Amanita paradigm
Huggins doesn’t argue against PMTs; he argues against Secret Amanita in Christian art theorists [SATs].
48:00 – Hatsis is stuck within Allegro paradigm. Letcher is broader.
Secret Amanita debunkers are unprepared to debate the Explicit Cubensis paradigm ie Samorini, Brown, Hoffman, Cyberdisciple.
“Hoffman” in this topic = Michael Hoffman unless specify Mark Hoffman.
Usually, I can say “Ruck” instead of “Mark Hoffman”.
Mark Hoffman is to blame for the tauroctony art corruption on the cover of Entheos Issue 3 (Blue to Red shift & image flipped to the non-initiate’s below-fixed-stars POV).
50:00 – Letcher: Incommensurable paradigm re: my the Explicit Cubensis paradigm/ the maximal entheogen theory of religion. See notes above.
52:13 – I am happy to:
Find evidence for psychedelic eternalism. Not for finding/ constructing/ confabulating a social boundary between:
Oppressor vs. Oppressed.
Mainstream Prohibitionists vs. Counterculture psychedelic heretics. Ruck p. 14 “Conjuring Eden” 2001; p 56 Daturas Virgin” 2001.
Elite secret holders vs. clueless poor oppressed masses of ordinary Christians. Ruck: Effluents of Deity 2012; Irvin AstroSham 2006.
eg I am happy to find that St Eustace, Right paw touches the good, Right-hand branch of the branching mushroom tree on the left.
When Scope = the branching Cubensis tree + the non-branching Cubensis tree, the entire L tree is “bad”.
When Scope = the Left, branching tree, the Right part of that tree is Good/ Non-branching/ Stable; the left part of the Left tree is Bad/ Branching/ Unstable.
59:00 – Oppressor vs. oppressed; therefore pilzbaum are not mushrooms.
Letcher is an incommensurable paradigm that’s alien to the Egodeath theory./end of Content
59:56 – Outro – “77 outro VOX_TK_5477”
May 23, 2023. Voice, not guitar.
1:00:18 – 0:24 seconds of guitar. “77G outro VOX_TK_5477”
1:00:42 – end
Part G: “Ep263G Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 5:06
Two parts; first half says “Egodeath Mystery Show”, while guitar.
Source Recordings
5476.wav
VOX_TK_5476.wav – 3:22:00+.
guitar at start. Intro. May 23, 2023.
What am I up to: details wanted: St Eustace
In a posting, I noted about this rec’g. todo: produce 5476.wav per post/page “Corruption of Art”.
5477.wav
VOX_TK_5477.wav – 1:15:00 (con’t seamlessly from 5476):
Looking for comparison of my paradigm vs. others’.
Lacking the usual assumed resistance.
Amanita primacy fallacy will collapse if no Prohibition.
Wasson paradigm calling for full Repeal, p 132 in The Sacred Msh Seeker 1990/1997.
2nd half has a lot of me composing recent articles. read recent articles instead. When I do read the result aloud, too fast. So have too slow, then too fast.
I ought to re-produce the episode, without any composition activity (where I read aloud as I type each word).
At 37:24, the noisy background part starts, instead of the Puzzle Page composition above, on a different topic: Consciously virtual-only controllership is like transcending eternalism/ no-free-will.
Source Recordings
I’m continuing to produce a few episodes of Egodeath Mystery Show, from a few voice recordings that I mentioned during hiatus June 2023-November 2024.
Then Jesus said, “Whoever has ears to hear, let them hear.” When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. He told them, “The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables so that, they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!
Huggins 2024 article: “The man is trying to kill the salamander.” Literal, textual, reductionist, OSC-based.
37:20 – Trailer: choppy panned “Cyber Monk”, track name “CybMk from Sites 0618_081327”
37:24 – Content: “VOX_TK_6233” .wav
Summary of transcending eternalism. Consciously virtual-only controllership is like transcending eternalism/ no-free-will.
41:46 – Trailer: “EDMS Left Right Wet Dry rvb80pctSpread”
42:17 – Content: “VOX_TK_6234” .wav
“the bible authors were too focused on Amanita, the medieval artists same. my 1986 complaint and 2002 complaint, same year Entheos 3 I id’d Ruck school as Moderate (= Secret Amanita). I read Jesus Mysteries 1999, 2001 Entheos 1, 2, Apples of Apollo.
In 1986, I disliked quality of books about mystic enlightenment, said “I will have to do this myself: as an Engineering student, simply explain enlightenment, plainly – Self Help metaprogramming/ Ken Wilber / Way of Zen should’ve emphasized Block Universe Determinism.”
In 1986 in Rev 10, I’m seeing that these texts are describing blotter psychedelic state but not blotter, what is the scroll? (Amanita per Heinrich 1995, read in 1999.)
Moderns can’t figure out ancients bc ancients poor at communication and they glorify Secrecy (bad).
Eadwine and I are the only ppl in the world who are anti-secrecy and we both are ideally positioned to transmit/receive his message, receiving it Nov 2020 from color-corrected March 2021 French library site showing Great Canterbury Psalter.
At the present website, some of my crops are still the too-dark 2020 version, not updated to the French library’s corrected, March 2021 images.
This proves I am on the leading edge; I started decoding based on 2008 blurry inkjet John Lash image of leg-hanging mushroom tree, f134 Great Canterbury Psalter.
Compare the 2000 Paul Lindgren image, Creation of Plants, on cover of James Arthur book M&M in 2000, and credited in ConjEden article in Entheos 2001, and on cover of Brown 2016 book The Psychedelic Gospels, has nicest version of the picture).
49:31 – Trailer: voice with guitar background (1:08): “VOX_TK_3088 from “Ep123 Moderate Theory Coercion.aup””:
Egodeath Mystery Show, with Cybermonk. Egodeath.com. EgodeathTheory.WordPress.com. You are on the leading edge of altered-state theory.
Top Priority for Ruck: Define the Boundary Between Our Secret Mushroom Cults and the Evil Mainstream, in the Eternal Battle Against the Prohibitionist Mainstream
The Definitive Prohibition Barrier that Constructs Our Identity as Oppressed Havers of Secret Amanita – if it didn’t exist, we’d have to invent it
1:25:00 [mobile] – Ruck is busy working hard to construct boundaries, he mistakes that for his scholarly product.
“I know that you need me to define where the Prohibition Boundary is. To explain = to draw/define this boundary.”
The Egodeath theory holds instead:
There’s a giant set of all Christians – not “groups”, “sects”, “an order”, “cult”, “communities”, a “secret society”. None of that matters.
What matters is to find evidence that there were 2+ self-identified Christians who used Cubensis.
Christianity has an important Cubensis tradition. Proved by 2 instances:
Saint Eustace Crossing the River; a Chartres Cathedral window.
Eadwine’s leg-hanging mushroom tree image in the Great Canterbury Psalter. f134 eg Row 1 Left.
Behind ox up to blue bowl up to dispensary case into sacks leading to advanced understanding of {mushrooms}, {branching}, {handedness}, and {stability} motifs.
Stable control in loosecog from Cubensis by standing on Right foot not Left foot; affirm the non-branching model of control and possibilities.
Repudiate relying on the branching model, although use the branching model masterfully, transcendently.
Recognize that the egoic control branching model is virtual-only.
You always use the egoic control system and need the remnant of the purified, qualified, egoic control system, cleansed, healed, transformed, now taken as virtually autonomous power and virtual only steering through a branching tree seemingly, vigorously, carrying a load through the experiential branching tree, while able to keep stable control by not relying on the branching worldmodel of control and possibilities.
9:20 – Everyone thinks all theology stands or falls with Plainc fresco.
Theology of Fall and Sin, therefore, Not A Mushroom. [🍄] picture kiddie Amanita, only.
See somewhere in one of Hatsis’ overpriced books.
Psychedelic Mystery Traditions – Hatsis 2018 – His half-page treatment of pilzbaum: a methodology chastisement/bragging, then a citation “as proved in my articles somewhere at my website.” (Thank you for buying my book.)
He treats our tree (Plainc obv’ly) in terms of theology, as his treatment of pilzbaum.
15:30 Panofsky letter 2. Would not have painted branches. So, not a mushroom. especially ignorant craftsman.
Brown Changed “product” (prototype) to “project” (fresco), Messing Up My Interpretation
I should have know when the writing & reasoning is so rough and detailed, I would have to read from the photo of Pan’s letters, which I did (enhanced by me).
I should have known not to rely on transcription, given the importance of every word in these letters.
Brown screwed up, misquoted Panofsky letter in a way that messed me up in Egodeath Mystery Show episode.
In the next show, I had to retract my Brown-caused interpretation error, and had to go Back to the Sources and read the photo of the Panofsky letter that Brown provided in the same article.
Panofsky wrote “the finished product” ie the prototype, after accidental development of pine by sloppy artists with no intentionality (when the topic is mushrooms).
Against Brown, Panofsky did not write “the finished project“, which would mean the fresco, which is not what Panofsky means.
24:00 Rolfe and Rolfe, is there an illustration referred to in the Amanita passage? A Curious Myth.
25:25 When Wasson revealed in 1968 SOMA, why didn’t “mycologists” demand citations from Panofsky?
What are the best passages about pilzbaum by the CREDIBLE art historians WHO HAVE STUDIED THE TOPIC.
Just give me your top 10. Top 5? Can you just give me ONE citation?
Page 87 of the 86 page book has the proof. I reached out and contacted the artist.
Why not just read their article/book section where the historian published writings on this topic?
Are they not competent and relevant?
How come they didn’t write a single sentence on this topic?
When you’re berating the enthusiasts for not “consulting” the “competent” art historians – DO YOU MEAN READ THEIR WRITINGS?
CITATION NEEDED, PLEASE, WE ARE WAITING.
Paul Thagard: Conceptual Revolutions book
2:00:00
Definition of concepts, rules, explanations, overview of the chatpers of the book.
degrees of conceptual change.
Conceptual Revolutions book.
Add a new Kind relation.
Add a new Concept.
Abandon a previous distinction eg “mainstream Christianity vs sect cult group communities – get rid of that class of Boundary words.
more than “belief revision”, weak concept. conceptual change.
me: how an entire system of concepts can be replaced: must redefine as well as reorg the parts/concepts.
a theory of conceptual change, must be able to describe the mechanisms [end of recording – check next track, VOX_TK_6241.wav?
oh BTW ALL 3 ENTHEOS ISSUES CONTAIN RUCK WRITING “SO-CALLED HERETICS” OR “SO-CALLED HERETICAL SECTS” – found in Notes online detailed endnotes for article on Mithras in Entheos Issue 3 (September 2002).
Amanita Hype
Mithraism = Secret Amanita!
🤯
Found in Rutajit book: too embarrassing to photograph it seems; I thought “not worth it”.
I need gallery examples of the Amanita Primacy Fallacy.
Amanita would be most useful to me by putting Amanita in greatest service for the glorification of Cubensis.
Maximize Amanita by putting it at the service of Cubensis glorification. When you go to the headshop, remember this principle: spotted mushroom = Cubensis, not Amanita. Remember, Amanita is a poison mushroom like scopalamine, the know-nothing Guides are right – a dummy token half-delirious halucinogen.
Those things they told you about psychedelics being hallucinogen is true, as Brown & Brown (thus double points for each word) assert in their subtitle:
The SECRET history of HALLUCINOGENS in Christianity
i.e. Secret Amanita so buy this book
🤫🍄
Dear World, I actually suck as an entheogen, and just like in headshop art, {spotted mushroom} means Cubensis. Good luck learning control-stability on the real deal, high-dose Psilocybin; can’t help you there.
🍄 Amanita, King of Exoteric Esotericism 👑🤡
I’m gonna photo the two pages raving about HOW POWERFUL AND EFFECTIVE AMANITA IS, THE SUPREME, BEST ENTHEOGEN that the others can only wish they could be. – Andrew Rutajit’s 2005 book, forward/ recommendation by Jan Irvin.
Amanita Hype! I ally with Letcher Hatsis Huggins himself, to overthrow Amanita Hype
Who (that follows Ruck) would’ve guessed!
Mobile timestamps are way off, off by minutes. move to Timestamps section
Download for 3 days only: https://we.tl/t-x9D9DotGV9 starting December 1, 2024. “Ep261 Competent Art Historians Wrote Nothing.mp3” 2:05:20, 230 MB stereo* *first 45 minutes is mono close-miked; dry; remainder is stereo room-miked; wet.
I’m continuing to produce a few episodes of Egodeath Mystery Show using recordings that I mentioned during hiatus June 2023-Nov 2024.
VOX_TK_6204.wav Nov 17 2024 4:29 pm 629 MB, 59:25. Mono, close-miked; dry. EV 635A dyn “omni” mic, noise gate NS-2 (too heavy; chopping syllables a little; should have opened gate more).
VOX_TK_6240.wav Nov 26 2024 6:54 pm 1.22 GB, 1:54:51 Stereo room-miked; wet. 635 center 1′; AT2020 L 4′, CAD E100 R 4′.
Errata: Slightly Muted in First Half
First 50 minute recording has too much Noise Gate, Muting Me, Poor Quality.
Content – Very good
Delivery – Very good.
Miking – Poor, in that the Gate muted me too much. Clear and quiet, other than that.
In Future, Open Up the Noise Gate.
The sound is so much better in March 23, 2023 4.5-hour episode Ep263, than newly recently recorded Nov, 17, 2024 (6204.wav) – same hookup but not room mics; middle close mic only, with Noise Gate closed too much.
It would be way better to have room noise + audible.
Ruck fabricates a “History” that’s based in myth & storytelling for purpose of the scholar’s self-identity formation, per Wouter Hanegraaff’s critique of historiography of Western Esotericism.
~1:30:00 – I rapid-read Revelation to find if Michael reveals all secrets – he does not; that was a long-term confabulation of mine, defining my identity/role: since 1986, I follow the model of Michael the Archangel misread until Nov. 26, 2024 as revealer of all things.
I am the Anti-Secret. Explicit Cubensis; I deliver psychedelic eternalism on a silver platter.
1:38:00 During 1952-1970-2001-2024, entheogen scholarship was dominated by the Secret Amanita paradigm.
Ruck’s incoherent story that led McCarthy/Priest to wrongly write “Ruck’s theory is that in 325 AD, institutional Christianity omitted entheogens”.
Ruck’s actual position (a mess): Church got rid of entheogens AND Church was filled with entheogens; no one knew about The Mushroom; AND all heretics and fringe groups used Amanita.
1:45:00 My reading of the book Conceptual Revolutions continues, with my commentary about paradigms in entheogen scholarship.
The theory of psychedelic eternalism is based in Cognitive Science, where I am / my theory is definitive, of Psychedelic Cognitive Science: I Am the Door to Loose Cog Sci. There is no “old theory” or “old paradigm” in my field, other than notions of what Satori / spirituality mysticism is about – murky, blurry esotericism, messy, overgrown.
In 1986 i said we need a clear alternative to this Mush paradigm; need small tight efficient useful, not poorly messily garbled folk CRUDE and MESSY mass of esotericism vs. my clear-cut compact small efficient specific system, compact model w/ strong explanatory power.
The Old paradigm = Inarticulate Special Knolwedge that revels in obfuscation, obscurantism, occlusion, secrecy, poetry, hiding, mush.
Transcendent Knowledge is there but is Overgrown; can’t see the trellis, buried under accretions of junk obscuring the underlying structure/ message.
30 years of Meditation didn’t work? Not a defective product; you did it wrong, meditate another 130 years.
My retort: I’m going to deliver the goods in 3.5 years — on a silver platter as a tool, packaged, useful, usable – not unusable like “enlightenment” in 1985.
Ken Wilber is perhaps the best, but he has the wrong engine: Wilber’s complex system lacks analogical psychedelic eternalism with dependent control.
1:50:00 — Theory of conceptual revolutions. How conceptual systems are formed and replaced. Paul Thagard book. Belief revision, conceptual change.
Recording 6204.wav with its timestamps
Description of 6204.wav raw recording, per my Celestial Planisphere notebook pp. 38-39
Paradise trees subset of Panofsky’s “hundreds of pilzbaum” – they are specifically trying to interpret Plaincourault by driving from OSC-framed flatland reading, such as Thomas Hatsis’ escape into an OSC -based theology argument:
The Plaincourault fresco depicts the Fall of Man, therefore, it’s not Secret Amanita; so, not a mushroom.
17:00 – I read aloud Panofsky letter 1. “I will agree it’s a mushroom if we assume that the idiot artist misunderstood the prototype, and thought the prototype meant “draw a mushroom” – but the idiot artist drew branches, so, not a mushroom.”
27:00 – Brinckmann in 1906 had no concept of “magic mushroom” or “psychoactive mushroom”.
34:00 – “competent” art historians
51:00 proves nothing eager amanita SMC Secret Mushroom Cult Hatsis, the “Amanita = Xmas gift” folk myth. Allegro (proves nothing) is on the rise, selling like hotcakes, the Irvin-produced book with howler of a mistake by Ruck about Dancing Man having “red” cap (it’s blue).
The Secret Amanita brand of entheogen scholarship is broad pointless enthusiasm going nowhere. Pop frenzy going where? Psychedelic Christianity. Has a Cubensis paradigm. During 1957-2024 no one tried to find that Christianity had a Cubensis tradition [but quote the 1997 Samorini article], not only an Amanita tradition.
They made scholars hypnotized: you can’t think of Cubensis in Europe.
Was there a Cubensis tradition in Christianity? There are 2+ art instances, so Yes:
St. Eustace crossing river.
Eadwine folio f143, f145, f177.
The word ‘Cubensis’ has the power of shattering; Cubensis is an effective spearhead.
Cubensis as a spearhead punches through, whereas the term “Psilocybin” is not parallel with “Amanita” and does’t punch through competitively the same way as the term ‘Cubensis’.
Even if friend is correct that no one knows the word “Cubensis”, the all-popular psil mushroom that everyone knows is Cubensis.
Paradise Pilzbaum / trees subset of Pilzbaum: Panosky critical reading of letter 1 (uncensored per Brown).
Directionless Ruck entheogen scholarship, not Psil Repeal.
Recording 6240.wav with its timestamps
Description of raw recording 6240.wav per my Celestial Planisphere notebook p. 41
“Mycologists should have reached out like me to consult the competent art historians re: pilzbaum.” Totally improper, non-academic approach! Huge red flag!
Where’s the damn citation, Wasson? Ans: Censored; in Panofsky’s TWO letters to Wasson, Panofsky TWICE strongly recommended Brinckmann’s “little”, outdated book, not in English, 1906.
I am aiming exclu “scholar” – “I reached out to consult 18 competent art historians” is proof of propaganda spin; no written substance; a bluff.
Relative to my “new theory”, there is no “old science/ theory”. Per Kuhn we’re in a pre-paradigm stage; mine is the first properly formed paradigm, not folk heap of vague knowledge.
Description of raw recording 6240.wav per the webpage
The Pre-Paradigm Phase of the Field of Transcendent Knowledge
45:00 – Relative to the fields of theory of religion/ Cog Sci/ Mysticism/ Spirituality/ Mythology, prior to the Egodeath theory, there is no “previous paradigm”, just a heap of “secret” exoteric-esoteric formless mush and eager pop anti-rationality.
Within entheogen scholarship, the Old Paradigm is Secret Amanita; the new paradigm is Explicit Cubensis.
The “Special-Case” of Pilzbaum (Taboo), Completely Absurd and Abnormal; the Deniers Lost this Debate —
Great funny exasperation voice recording segment: VOX_TK_6240.wav Nov 26 2024, 10:00-20:00
TOTALLY IMPROPER!! academic approach: “I reached out to consult the top competent art historians to interrogate how quickly they disavow & deny pilzbaum.”
Huggins, Wasson, even Brown re: Marcia Kupfer
BECAUSE THEY WROTE/ PUBLISHED 0 SENTENCES on this topic, and are thus manifestly not competent; more like A COMPROMISED ART HISTORIAN.
A dirty posturing move, a fallacy: argument from authority.
Content/Timestamps
0:00 – Intro, from yesterday’s recording Ep260 outro.
0:13 – Content, from “VOX_TK_6204.wav”
8:16 – Plaincourault is “all important” b/c Fall of Man / Original Sin tree, AND, it’s Amanita!!!
Our fresco with our Amanita we are entirely attached to.
EVERYTHING stands or falls with this ONE tree, THE Amanita tree.
Bet our entire theory of religion, it stands or falls based on this one tree.
— According to the infantile childish field of Phase 1 entheogen scholarship, 1952-1996, until Samorini’s San Francisco presentation in October 1996; 1997 Plainc article; 1998 pilzbaum article.
Samorini’s work fed into Entheos 1 “Conjuring Eden” article by Ruck Heinrich Hoffman.
Also fed into that 2001 article, was Paul Lindgren’s Great Canterbury Psalter findings, per cover of 2000 book by James Arthur, M&M.
Browns’ cover is better looking version of that image, “Creation of Plants”.
10:00 –
20:00 – Reading through the 2nd letter from Panofsky to Wasson, 1952. I explain his meaning and argument in each sentence.
Including his argument from gradualness of development from pine to mushroom. Non sequitur; does not follow.
Panofsky: “The gradualness of the shift from pine to mushroom proves that the artists did not purposefully shift toward mushrooms.” ?? does not follow
The key question: What page # of Brinckmann’s book presents that point?
Remember, ppl in 1906 had no concept of psychoactive mushroom or entheogens; no concept of mushrooms causing a religious experience.
Rolfe & Rolfe 1925: The Romance of the Fungus World. But before that was Brinc 1906, and French myco soc’y 1910 (“1911, 1912”??), and per Samo 1997, Abbot ~1890-1910 said Plainc has mushroom tree w/ multiple heads.
I have the Samo 1997 pdf but can’t copypaste text from it; I must transcribe the parts where Samo args that a new fresh approach is needed.
p. 7: In ~1890-1910, Abbot Rignoux described the tree as “a mushroom with several heads”. Probably before the French group.
Footnote/ endnote 1: a French mycologist , 1910, mentioned in Soma 1967 p. 178-179. I think 1967 is error, and is 1968 – my copy lacks copyright year. wikip agrees:
Mushrooms, Russia and History, with Valentina Pavlovna Wasson. New York: Pantheon Books (1957)
Soma: Divine Mushroom of Immortality (1968)
pp. 178-179 of Soma is about French myco soc. 1910.
The Plainc. Fresco is 107 years older than Wasson & Allegro say: Samo 1997 says in Note 4, 1184 AD not 1291 AD.
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The evil rulers of the world hypnotized the populace to make it unthinkable: Was there a Psilocybin/ Cubensis tradition in Christianity?
45:01 – Content, from “VOX_TK_6240.wav”
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2:04:48 – outro, “EDMS Left Right Wet Dry rvb80pctSpread”
Today I produced the pair of .wav files, VOX_TK_5984.wav & VOX_TK_5985.wav, recorded Oct. 22, 2023. The first recording has 4 minutes of guitar at end, produced as a separate .mp3 file.
Guitar
Probably Marshall Plexi with two EL34 valves, probably close-miked with SM57s on two Reference cabs, possibly with room mics too (AT 2020, CAD E100 R, likely).
God (Controller X), the pre-existing ground of being, the 4D block universe, can force the local control agent to will and think anything.
This is overwhelming and breaks the possibilism-reliant mind.
The mind needs possibilism-thinking, but that thinking is broken and threatened to be destroyed, when comprehending total vulnerability to the creator of all thoughts.
The same ultimate control source that gives the local control agent thoughts, also is experienced as the same source that gives harmful control agent/actors their thoughts.
Activism logic is destroyed or contradicted by the eternalism state of consciousness.
All future thoughts for the local control agent and all control agents, already are existing and forced upon everyone.
The mind can experience being controlled by the same Controller X that forces all other minds, too, to will and think harmful thoughts.
The Psychotic Psychedelic Peak State Can Break Control Stability
1:21 p.m. November 29, 2025
Angels and demons and armies and lions threaten personal control viable stability in the peak state, as depicted in the Great Canterbury Psalter.
Recommend Reading About the Psychotomimetic Divine Madness State Rather than Personally Experiencing It
1:21 p.m. November 29, 2025
Advaita (and maybe Neoplatonism or apophatic mysticism) is awful for saying that words cannot convey experience.
Words are able to convey experience of peak divine madness and the psychotomimetic state, to both describe the experience and to warn against personally ingesting psychedelics.
Merkavah (Merkabah) Mysticism in the Hekalot (palaces) literature prior to Kabbala has the main theme: a war of angels (divine messengers/ teachers) against mystics, such that the only thing saving mystics from experience of the threat of catastrophic loss of control is the mercy of God.
Prevent evil future-me from out-radicaling me; define an extreme position that cannot be outdone.
Describe the experience of feeling local control agency as a helpless puppet that’s controlled by the same Controller X (the uncontrollable source of control-thoughts) that gives bad, harmful people their bad, harmful thoughts.
The personal, egoic mind shatters under this pressure, as warned in Merkavah mysticism: even the angels cannot withstand God’s radiation that burns up from the inside.
The lyrics are merely relationship, but song title in context is ominous per Metal. More eerie is later album, song Shock Wave. Or Metallica: For Whom the Bell Tolls.
List of Fears
What do people on Psilocybin have to fear? The four claws of the dragon:
helpless puppet unable to resist bad control thoughts coming from the hidden uncontrollable source of thoughts, made to look down a bad path of loss of control, can’t shield the eye of awareness from too clearly seeing the threat potential
experiencing the threat of catastrophic loss of control, being made to want and need to explore the vulnerability & susceptibility to sacrifice and cause to self-transgress
future control thoughts already exist frozen in timeless eternity, snake frozen in rock
Deja Vu vortex pulls you in, re-arriving here where you remembered the timeless incident where you received thoughts of loss of control
Image: Sages Pulled into Hellmouth – f101 Great Canterbury Psalter
Image: Angel Harassing Army (Detail), f49, Great Canterbury Psalter
Image: Angel Harrassing Army, f49, Great Canterbury Psalter
Image: Christ Rescuing from Hellmouth, Golden Psalter
My main feeling whike reading the book Shroom was that Letcher keeps slipping between those two conflated distinct positions/ assertions, conflating them.
“Bait and switch” fallacy
“motte and bailey” fallacy
“moving the goalposts” fallacy
straw-man argument
misrepresenting the opponent’s position.
Letcher’s book Shroom argues against & fixates specifically on the proposed existence of a SECRET mushroom CULT, conflating that with the sheer basic proposal of mushroom use, eg the non- secret use of mushrooms, which is my assertion.
Letcher’s phrase “Hoffman et al” conflates others’ Secret Amanita position with my Explicit Psilocybin position.
I am totally apathetic re: whether Christian use of mushrooms is framed as “secret” or a bounded, walled-off group characterized as a “cult”, “community”, “sect”, etc.
Such a postulated, limiting boundary does my proof no good, and causes blindness to evidence.
My motivation is to interpret myth as corroborating my core theory, that religious transformation is mental model transformation from possibilism to eternalism; psychedelic eternalism; analogical psychedelic eternalism with dependent control.
Introducing a “Secret Group” barrier explanatory construct does nothing to assist my objective and is entirely irrelevant; I couldn’t care less.
Stop relying on the word ‘secret’. That word is on the block list.
The less we use such “boundary construction” words, the more entheogen scholarship will advance. As I proved.
i can trump all his denials: i proved PEAK religious experiencing is depicted, not just any relig exp, thus proving for free all the intermediate points in Letcher’s chain by which Letcher hangs himself.
The problem with [reviewer Michael] Hoffman’s position is this, why is there no corroborating evidence? We have records detailing the most obscure heretical sects from the Middle Ages, why not the mushroom cult?
The rule is this. Not everything that looks like a mushroom in art is a mushroom. Not everything that is a mushroom is a magic mushroom. Just because it’s a magic mushroom doesn’t mean that it was used intentionally for its psychedelic effects. Just because it’s used intentionally, doesn’t mean that it’s used for religious purposes (here I recommend Steve Beyer’s excellent book, Singing to the Plants. In Mestizo shamanism, people do not take ayahuasca to have religious experiences – though that’s what we in the West do – they do so to get well. Very different).
In the absence of other evidence, each link in the chain remains inferential only, and the parsimonious explanation is that we’re not looking at a secret, or suppressed Christian mushroom cult. If any evidence turns up, I will be the first to admit I was wrong.
In any case, I don’t set out to prove or disprove anything, merely to assess what evidence there is and to see which theories fit the best. That may be none or many.
By contrast, Hoffman et al. use an outdated methodology whereby they start with a premise, and then selectively cherrypick as much evidence to support it as possible. It was used by scholars such as J. G. Frazer, Emile Durkheim and Mircea Eliade, but the new historicism of the 1970s found it severely wanting. I take my lead from Ronald Hutton, who is the master of the new methodology, and I thoroughly recommend you read his Pagan Britain to see how it’s done.
BTW, I have absolutely no problem with people having religious, spiritual or mystical experiences under the influence of psychedelics. My problem is with the assumption that that is the motivating factor for all people at all times. It is patently not true of our time, where people take psychedelics for all manner of reasons, recreational, hedonistic (that is, for aesthetic or intellectual pleasure), occult, psychological, animistic, shamanistic etc etc. To project it onto the past is an act of colonialism, one that silences the many other voices that rarely get heard.
Andy Letcher
Denial of psilocybin Christianity is the height of colonialist silencing of artist psychonauts’ voices.
Why do the Deniers not care at all about good argumentation?
These are obvious objections that Deniers should have addressed, instead of losing the pilzbaum debate — if an actual 2-way debate were to occur.
The “Single Reason” fallacy
A false dichotomy: recreational vs. religious use of Psilocybin mushrooms.
The “Single Reason” fallacy: The assumption that a person has a single reason for ingesting Psilocybin.
Which purpose does this psilocybin session have? For healing, or for therapy, or for recreation, or for religious experiencing, or for mental transformation, or for metaprogramming, or for developmental maturation.
Worldline in Block Universe, Snake in Rock, Transcending the Block Universe
Creation of Plants, right pilzbaum pair, reversed
The Nature of this Episode Content
Discussing what content to include in my broad-scoped article that’s a supplement to branching-message mushroom trees article for Journal of Psychedelic Studies.
0:00 – Intro, from end of the yesterday’s Thanksgiving 2024 recording. “Intro 6246 VOX_TK_6246”
Egodeath Mystery Show with Cybermonk . You’re on the leading edge of altered state theory. Thursday, Thanksgiving, November 28, 2024. VOX_TK_6246.wav.
0:24 – Content Part A, 15 minutes
I ‘m not present in Hanegraaff’s thought world.
I rejected in 1985-86 I believed in ego transcendence, Transcendent Knowledge.
Why did I take mystics seriously in their general claim?
I called it egoic thinking vs. transcendent thinking: figure out the difference, explain it clearly and succinctly, per STEM communication.
Ken Wilber has a 12-stage scheme, Alan Watts has 2 stages.
Satori/ enlightenment/ those on the inside, must be a simple trick.
They must be presenting something that can be expressed more simply.
Upon breakthrough on Jan. 11, 1988, my project changed: now, explain mental model transformation, not to expect posi-control like during my Oct 1985-Dec 1987 phase.
1997 outline summary uses almost no analogy.
5:00 – they aren’t interested in psychedelics; Ruck instead…. Stoddard in Reply to McCarthy & Priest, “wildly speculative and inherently sensationalistic“, cites Allegro 1970 & Mura 2020. They are wildly speculative, as charged. Separarting entheogens from Church
10:00 – Ruck’s approach: construct Prohibition. My approach: build model of Transcendent Knowledge; mental model transformation, in 1986 then change direction in 1988. 2001: assume myth comes from psil. thus expect them to report same expereiences. I was still in 1997 allowing meditation.
17:48 – radio spot “intro VOX_TK_3442”
18:00 – Content Part B, 15 minutes
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31:48 – Radio spot: You are on the leading edge… “LeadingASC – VOX_TK_2928”
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31:58 – Content Part C, 15 minutes – Moving Past Mysticism article debate
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45:25 – Radio spot: my websites (3)
45:38 – Content Part D, 15 minutes – 3 paradigms.
Hanegraaff book Esotericism and the Academy implies 3-4 approaches, none match mine, my approach is not to write a history of Western Esotericism.
I’m an engineer / Cognitive Scientist writing a useful explanatory model of mental model transformation along with a theory of religious myth & religious art as analogy that describes that cubensis-driven mental model transformation.
Huggins’ article denying mushroom trees implies two paradigms and I am a 3rd. He sloppily says PMTs, psychedelic mushroom theorists, but doesn’t define “psychedelic mushroom theory”, doesn’t define his position, as a denier.
Affirmers (“PMTs”) – Bennett 1993, Irvin, John Rush, Ruck & Staples Conjuring Eden 2001.
My theory. pilzbaum aren’t trees, and aren’t mushrooms. Pilzbaum are branching mushrooms to make viewers think of psychedelic eternalism.
50:00 – Ruck is assuming ppl are demanding to explain/ fabricate a story about secrecy. Stop making that your project. Explaining mushrooms in religion has nothing to do with secrecy. 10 year moratorium on word “secret”. Stop putting forth explanatory hypoth about secrecy; simply say: mushroom were there/used. End. My motivations – I’m a successful example – my approach had no consideration of secrecy; would’ve been counterproductive. the Explicit Cubensis paradigm completely avoids all of that distraction and hindrance that makes you blind. The concern about storytelling causes blindness and causes ddeleting mushroom, and causes serving the false king amanita.
discuss lash, girrifiths vs johhnson: Moving Past Mysticism, need to bring these diverse things – shallowly – a survey article, my global broad perspective on the field of entheogen scholarship and the various paradigms…. one-stop shopping for my view on:
debagtes, tendencies, paradigms in entheogen scholarship
Psych Science, Q-airs, superior merit of DED / OAV over MEQ/CEQ.
oav
ceq fixed
artificially fabricated Grief subset
10 mini-articles in one.
Heimarmene level 8, astral ascent mysticism – explain the basic model, quote Erik Davis’ two pages in LZ IV book.
State of the field of entheogen scholarship. What it did right, wrong, succeeded, failed, putting the Secret Amanita paradigm behind us as dead end, make red serve blue, not vv. Eadwine does that as a model: he showed IY red in Creation of Plants, nice, but reversed.
Red Shift in Irvin & Entheos 3 including explain Mith’m and astral ascent mysticism , and contrast 2-level Transcendent Knowledge of Early Antiqy vs. 3-level in Late Antiqy, Cosmology and Fate book – see my review, extract the 3-item summary system.
the master xfmn of Early Anti
55:30 – In Early Antiquity, the master (most-emph’d) transformation was from possibilism-thinking to eternalism thinking.
in Late Antiquity, the master (most-emph’d) transformation was from (naive possibilism and) eternalism to qualified possibilism. To out-do Early Ant’y. Hanegraaff quote: d/k where to put fixed stars: planet 7, or Ogdoad?
Creation of Plants id’d as Pan Lib Cub Ama on Dec 13 2020. Moral: we had since 2000, in 2020 figured out – 20 years! slow! This (entheogen scholarship, & psyched science) is a pre-science in its infancy, it can only be called a science now with since 2023, with my interp in hand; psychedelic eternalism.
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1:01:31 – radio spot – “EDMS Left Right Wet Dry rvb80pctSpread”
Cyberdisciple – Against the Assumption of Suppression of Psychedelics in Pre-Modernity.
Max Freakout Transcendent Knowledge podcast, re: Ruck
“The more evidence Ruck collects, the more a contradiction arises: Entheogens were everywhere, but no one really knew about it. So which is it?”
Freakout, Max – article on perception per:
The Egodeath theory
the Core theory, of:
mental model transformation from possibilism to eternalism
mental model transformation from ordinary-state possibilism to psychedelic eternalism
mental model transformation from: [omit ‘literalist’] [ordinary-state possibilism with autonomous control] (OPAC, not LOPAC) to: [omit ‘analogical’] [psychedelic eternalism with dependent control] (PEDC, not APEDC)
vs the Mytheme theory, which is Analogical.
The Mytheme theory has excellent decoding power.
The mytheme theory is fluent in Analogy for the things of the ASC, purpose-built/ optimized.
The mytheme theory is not based on analogy.
The Egodeath theory (incl the mytheme theory) is based on STEM clear direct explanatory model efficiently presented by leveraging separately analogies.
Highly capable of decoding analogies to identify the ultimate referent, the non-analogy referent directly identified clearly,
The referent mental dynamic (thing experienced in the asc, loose cog state) is clarified by analogies (
By the definition of ‘analogy‘, this application of analogy is exactly the purpose of analogy: to clarify explanation of a thing being explained and described.
The cybernetic theory
Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism
Analogical psychedelic eternalism with dependent control
Psychedelic eternalism
Psychedelic eternalism with dependent control
{knife} = threat of loss of control, driving mental model transformation
[11:24 pm Nov. 29, 2024] Saint Martin frescos knife = threat of loss of control, weilding it by higher mind against lower control-system mind, disprove branching world and control, but harm not the boy.
Preserve deluded thinking, possibilism-thinking, needed all the time.
But cleansed of delusion about it that bedevils, causing loss of control.
Stabilized control by learning eternalism and transcending it actually.
By conforming to eternalism.
Not just “tool to cut branches”; knife = potential loss of control, the higher mind sacrificing the lower mind, violating it formally, to come into coherence.
Stable control eventually when reached is clean, righteous, innocent in God’s / Creator’s court.
I am a virtual-only control agent, so, clean, pure, not offending the higher controller.
Lower local control agency is not set against the uncontrollable higher mysterious controller. Cleansed puppet of God
Mysterious Control Agent the Mystery Controller Mystery Source of Control Thoughts fountain
/11:24 pm nov 29 2024
Question 54! 😱🐉
Dittrich: APZ, OAV, 5D-ASC
Studerus: 11 Factors
+ Virtual factor 12 & Shadow factor 13, & the two top-level factors – containing factor items and non-factor items (virtual factors to magically ignore when doing Science).
therefore: Giant Grief coun$elling factor.
Convert Transcendent Terror to Grief, make $ – Griftiths
😞🍄🤑💰 👞💥🐉🗑
piggybacks on OAV taken from 5D-ASC, plays shell games with “factors” at two levels, creating non-factor factors, or non-factor items/ effects questions.
Panke, SOCQ, MEQ42, MEQ30
CEQ disaster, pulled from MEQ, 5D-ASC, only the 11 Factors subset of 5D-ASC ie OAV, ended w/ 18 of 21 Angst effects being deleted and replaced by Grief coun$elling.
To create CEQ, start w only 13 of 21 Angst items, end up keeping only 3 Angst effects items.
Tell W Hanegraaff about this Rejected Knowledge: CEQ rejected 18 of 21 of Dittrich’s Dread psychedelic effects.
Justification: vague math, arm waving, behind the scenes juggling “items” arbitrarily.
The Red Shift Corruption of Art by Entheogen Scholars, to Delete Blue Mushrooms
cover of Entheos 3 reverses Taurus (disaster!) and shifts violently from blue to red, rendering the Psilocybin mushroom invisible.
Irvin gallery in THM red-shift to try to force Dancing Man from Blue to Red – quote Huggins ~2024 Dizzy article who points this out.
Source Recordings: 6246.wav
VOX_TK_6246.wav – Celestial Planisphere notebook p. 41: 2 lines. Raw length: 1:36:08.
see the new Incoming Ideas entries at bottom of this article.
Friday Dec 13 2024 i must create idea dev p 21, bc 20 is too long, hung.
when entering text at top, line wrap on mobile takes 10 sec, unresponsive.
try new page, test responsiveness line wrap.
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i will date entries.
The First Scholar to Identify Mushrooms in Greek Religious Myth: Robert Graves, “What Food The Centaurs Ate”, Shortly After June 27, 1957, in New Yorker
Who was the first scholar to assert that mushrooms powered Greek religion and myth? When, where? Answer: Robert Graves, in the article “What Food The Centaurs Ate”, which was first published after June 27, 1957, in New Yorker.
I drove this research, pointed out the two conflicting claims in two versions of a Graves article in Atlantic later in Difficult Questions book, about where & when Centaur article focusing on Dionysus & recipe for ambrosia first appeared.
Then Cyberdisciple found this huge lead: Graves’ diary: https://robertgraves.org/diary-search — 1957: June 27th. Thursday: “Finally got What Food The Centaurs Ate off to New Yorker.”
So, against Graves 1970 Atlantic article & 1973 book Difficult, the Centaur article was first published around June/July 1957 in New Yorker.
Not August 1956 Atlantic (no Graves article).
Not the Aug 1957 Atlantic article “Mushrooms, Food of the Gods” (barely mentions Dionysus; this is NOT the Centaur article).
Samorini article “The mushroom-tree of Plaincourault”, 1997, Eleusis journal, p 34 90% down & p. 35 67% down:
“in a description of the small chapel made at the … end of the previous [century] by a certain Abbot Rignoux, … Rignoux described the tree as “a mushroom with several heads”. “
YI crop by Cybermonk thxgv nov 28 2024 7:40 pm.
nov 29 2024 note: Blue plant has minimal / less branching than red plant; the blue plant is cleaner of branching
Red plant reversed into in std YI orientation: braching on the Left (possibilism is mapped to Left), no branching on the Right (eternalism is mapped to Right).
smooth red ball on Right (less branching)
segmented blue cap = relatively more branching than smooth blue ball; IY here.
tan & salmon mushrooms mirror each other too.
A single instance is an Anomaly. Two instances is a Pattern.
Cybermonk
fresh good recording after reread Hanegraaff book Esotericism and the Academy 6246.wav Good outline of my broad article “Cubensis-driven entheogen scholarship”. 1.5 hours.
my motivation purpose for visiting the field of entheogen scholarship: i needed myth to confirm the Egodeath core theory: analogical psychedelic eternalism with dependent control.
Ruck integrated myth and entheogens.
f&g book The Jesus Mysteries: we met & discussed entheogens, the authors were mostly censored.
I NEEDED a greedy approach; i needed & declared the maximal entheogen theory of religion in 2002, was vindicated Thanksgiving 2020 by the Great Canterbury Psalter.
Ruck motive: construct identity secret heretic boundary utilizing Secret Amanita to fabricate narrative of us suppressed heretics. the great secret is amanita.
it helps ruck to restrict enth, storytelling Suppression framing laboring to construct a heavy boundary barrier wall separating our good secret amanita from then the big bad suppressors.
john Lash: “i cannot allow evil jesus/ moses to have had entheogens”
Ruck presents a crudely defined incoherent confusing & confused crayon tale of boundary wall defining Them Establishment Prohibitionists vs Us Heretic Counterculture Sects – same p 56 , Daturas Virgin, Ruck screws up , attributing mushroom trees to Wasson as if he publicly agreed affirmed them, infuriating me & Irvin.
Irvin falsely attribg them to Allegro-/ who never wrote affirming pilzbaum all mushroom trees purposelfully meaning mushroom features as well as tree features (non/branching).
all world religious myth is description of peak cubensis experiencing.
i broke ways w ruck after entheos 2nd issue.
i followed the direction of “Conjuring Eden” article 2001, but using an Explicit cubensis-focused approach, not Secret (Amanita).
post Samorini 1997&1998.
i don’t care for p 14 Ruck’s invented, myth-type tale of boundary identity construction.
In 2002/2003 i declared Ruck merely moderate, but we / i need the maximal entheogen theory of religion, to confirm my core theory, analogical psychedelic eternalism with dependent control.
Hanegraaff’s History of Deleting Fixed Stars Heimarmene Level 8
book Esotericism and the Academy page 176: magia of different types for each level:
1) sublunar: natural magic.
Moon: skipped.
2) celestial magic = above the moon, below the fixed stars. ie the planets; Mars Venus Sun Mars Jupiter Saturn.
Fixed stars: skipped.
3) ceremonial magic – above the fixed stars.
What about at the level of the moon?
What about at level 8: the fixed stars/ heimarmene/ Fate/ eternalism?
The Dissolver of ‘Entheogens’, Hanegraaff, on Faivre’s Traits of Western Esotericism Being Employed to Dissolve Rather than Usefully Demarcate a Field
Hanegraaff defines ‘entheogen’ as any practice or substance that ‘CAN‘ produce the same effect as psilocybin – for example, imagination, breathing, sneezing, singing, or literally anything at all: light bulb, oven, car engine: I explained how these items are all entheogens by his infinitely lenient, excessively good-faith definition.
Anything you can name meets this wide-open definition of ‘entheogen’, and is elevated to the same level of efficacy as psilocybin, through this magic trick of definition and the falsely binary word ‘can’ (which is actually a matter of degree & likelihood).
rather than demarcating a field, it [Faivre’s definition of ‘Western Esotericism’] ends up dissolving its boundaries. [bc it’s too easy for any practice or belief to meet Faivre’s checklist criteria] … only the scantiest evidence [is] sufficient to magically turn [anything] into species of “esotericism”.
p360, Hanegraaff book “Esotericism and the Academy: Rejected Knowledge in Western Culture”, 2012
The Pre-Paradigm Phase of the Field of Transcendent Knowledge
Relative to the fields of theory of religion/ Cog Sci/ Mysticism/ Spirituality/ Mythology, prior to the Egodeath theory, there is no “previous paradigm”, just a heap of “secret” exoteric-esoteric formless mush and eager pop anti-rationality.
Within entheogen scholarship, the Old Paradigm is Secret Amanita; the new paradigm is Explicit Cubensis.
Using My Voice Recordings
Too much time is required to produce & upload & textually summarize my voice recordings.
My voice recordings have good content; good delivery; & good miking.
I simultaneously play back a voice recording while recording new commentary.
I profitably listen to my nice voice recordings.
Room Miking Setup
Easygoing about background noise (appliance, ventilation) when using room mics.
When the room is more noisy, I use the center close-mic only, with a noise gate — no stereo room mics & far center-miking, then.
Long-term miking setup to date:
Left room mic AT 2020 (a MDC) w dead cat 😵🙀 4′ aimed at rear Left guitar cab 12′
Center mic E-V 635A “omni” dyn 6″ or 3′
Right room mic CAD E100 (a LDC) aimed at rear Right guitar cab 4′ (12′)
compressor on 3 mics, noise gate on Ctr mic, 80Hz bass cut & Limiter on the deck.
i have my ideal miking dialed in – stereo room mics + center mic.
My Electro-Voice 635A center mic is now officially Vintage, bc no longer manufactured 😭, this tv interviewing mic, no proximity boominess (“omni”), an RF- quiet dynamic mic.
“Reach out and Consult the Competent Art Historians; I Was Impressed by the Unanimous Celerity of Their Disavowals” Is a Totally Improper Farce & Travesty!
Not Academic Standard Practice!
The “Special-Case” of Pilzbaum (Taboo), Completely Absurd and Abnormal; the Deniers Lost this Debate
TOTALLY IMPROPER!! academic approach: “I reached out to consult the top competent art historians to interrogate how quickly they disavow & deny pilzbaum.”
I reached out to consult the top competent art historians to interrogate how quickly they disavow & deny pilzbaum.
Huggins, Wasson, even Brown re: Marcia Kupfer
BECAUSE THEY WROTE/ PUBLISHED 0 SENTENCES on this topic, and are thus manifestly not competent; more like A COMPROMISED ART HISTORIAN.
A dirty posturing move, a fallacy. Arg from authority.
Paradise Pilzbaum / trees subset of Pilzbaum. Panosky critical reading of letter 1. uncensored. & 2. Directionless Ruck entheogen scholarship, not Psil Repeal.
Was there a Cubensis tradition in Christianity? An unthinkable question during the Secret Amanita paradigm of entheogen scholarship 1952-2020.
The new paradigm (2002-2020+): Explicit Cubensis, my thinking framework since I announced the maximal entheogen theory of religion in 2002.
U CENSOR U LOSE
Cough up the flimsy Brinckmann citation & 2 photostats, Wasson, LOSER OF DEBATE.
Pics to add to branching-message mushroom trees article
4 plants / Creation of Plants – Great Canterbury Psalter / Paul Lindgren 2000; blue is Correct / preferred YI orientation.
Red has improper/ nonstandard IY orientation, though plausible deniability.
Eadwine insults the Red mushroom, praises/ affirms the well-formed Blue mushroom.
Tauroctony – bent legs x4 , bull = lower Sol impurity thinking cleansed
3 versions of Splendor Solis – Philosophers Beside the Tree: Gate below R foot; Cut right branch/ basket; Amanita at feet.
Now I bolstered looking from pov of the branching morphology language of this genre;
I looked for the first time today at “Creation of Plants” from the pov of Branching morphology.
The mushroom eternalism genre
The Cubensis eternalism genre
I first identified Creation of Plants in Great Canterbury Psalter Dec 13, 2020, a month into my Great Canterbury Psalter research (not counting my 2006 gallery of pilzbaum for my Plaincourault article, which included a Great Canterbury Psalter image).
“Creator of Plants” was discovered by Paul Lindgren, a credited picture on the 2000 cover of James Arthur’s book.
Mushrooms and Mankind: The Impact of Mushrooms on Human Consciousness and Religion. James Arthur, 2000. Cover: Inkjet choppy pixelated “Creator of Plants”.
I had phone convs w Arthur after reading his book in 2000. I have a bk rvw at Amaz. He agreed with all my theory.
Browns’ 2016 book cover has nice good, best presentation of the 4 mushroom pic from Great Canterbury Psalter:
The Psychedelic Gospels: The SECRET🤫 History of HALLUCINOGENS 🍄 – Brown, Brown, & Brown
[8:20 am Nov 26, 2024] L pair 🔱 mirrors & R pair mirrors each other YI IY
[10pm Nov 25 2024] should’ve written timestamp: at what moment did I ask:
wait, is Blue uniquely YI; the only of the 4 that’s missing the Left arm/ branch?
Predicted and confirmed.
What made me think consciously to seriously analyze branching morphy in this pic? memory of inconsistency had been growing bigger, and it bothered me more that the trident shape is not meaningful. as if all 4 had boring symm trident – but not the case! Blue seems Special, most Correct like horses’ tree blue crown is the Correct one.
Concl: this is another example of indicating Cubensis as Eadwine’s fav of the 4 mushroom types.
in f177, in the horses tree, the Correct cap is blue fruit.
In f134, the leg-hanging (balancing) tree is Cubensis, per shape and per cattle row 3.
In f145, king orders gathering and securely storing blue fruit.
blue: YI
red: IY, more branches, elab’d / emphd
tan, salmon: balanced L/R arms
Eadwine likes Blue, not Red.
🔱 🔱 YI IY
10am Nov 26 2024:
Given: YI = Correct/good, & IY = Incorrect/bad:
Eadwine ranks the 4 trees: Tan = neutral; Salmon = neutral; Blue = Good; Red = Bad.
i wasn’t planning on including Creation of 4 Plants pic in branching-message mushroom trees article, but realized there are some signif branching forms to point out
this is a famous pic on two book covers: 2000 (discovery pic from Paul Lindgren), 2016 (Browns)
Blue (mushroom 3) is unique, special, & “Correct”: no Left limb/ branch / arm, resulting in YI (the favored) form. 🍄🟫🔵👍 🌳🐍 YI
Blue (#3) form mirrors Red (#4) form. Red’s form is “Wrong”, IY form; ie red has branching on the right, which is backwards. an insult to Red 🍄👎 🐍🌳 IY
This art genre does not always equate “Right limb = non-branching”, (= good, for stable control) but it’s understood to be the standard normal mapping convention.
God L hand is IY, Red is IY
plant 1 & 2 mirror each other and reinforce/ confirm that 3 & 4 are contrasted as a mirrored pair .. like St Eustace Crossing River has two pairs of contrasted-form plants.
i might put these two pics grouped together in the article.
Creator displays different L & R finger shapes, highlighting think about L vs R ie {handedness} motif
artist = the Blue brotherhood in a pop Red msh world
Hatsis’ Theology Reductionism Reading: Pilzbaum Denier bc Theology?? 🤔🤔🤷♂️
Huggins complains that pilzbaum affirmers dgaf about the background info about the scene and mundane basic facts about the scene and textual context.
eg the theology context helps interpret Plaincourault. how is that theo context put against pilzbaum? might modify and expand pilzbaum. not to deny pilzbaum. theol cant deny pilzbaum.
ITS NOT A MUSHROOM 🍄 ‘COS FALL OF MAN; QED.
🤔 🤷♂️
todo: review Hatsis’ arg in light of recent devmt- which logical fallacies is this manner of argn
Review how Hatsis uses a theology arg or perspective to deny pilzbaum.
Which logical fallacy is behind that? Is it a right perspective?
im always shocked & puzzled, baffled, by the strange arg vectors taken by pilzbaum deniers.
in his book, i have ebook good Search, but need print too, to see how bad the brief treatment, trailing off bafflingly at “see my online writings”. $ Bk was somewhat a ripoff for me, bogus, barely any discussion of the evidence fir for pilzbaum, m
Made it difficult to deduce what he might mean, where in his web of vagueness – hey Hatsis shut up your smokescreen distraction-lecture on methodology: reach a basic standard of academic writing and stop self-righteously lecturing us while thin delivery.
i an shocked at Rolfe 1025, writing “the fall of man!! 😱🤯 ” Plaincourault fresco
id call it “the tree of knowledge” scene, not “OMG THE FALL OF MAN!!!” scene.
Hatsis turns the pilzbaum interp to base on Theology, surprising me.
Motivation for this page
i often need to log a single idea without creating a whole article.
idea development page 19 is short, 6 sheets of print preview 2-sided, not 60 sheets per average for idea development pages 1-18.
6 2-sided sheets is about the right length for this limited mobile app that becomes unresponsive.
date range in page 19 is mar-jun 2023, dont want to add Nov 2024 content in that era’s batch.
need short page #20 for mobile.
mobile WordPress app gets bogged down at like 20 pages.
hiatus is bad bc there’s no record timestamp of when i thought of ideas, other than voice recordings’ metadata or spoken date stamp.
LSD was Free and Legal Between Oct 1966 – ~Jan 1970 in U.S.
LSD was legal to possess and use.
Illegal to make or sell, ie ppl were legally required to give away free.
So there was WAY more use & strongly encouraged use than I realized.
Was legal through late 1960s into 1970.
I misunderstood it as illegalized in Oct 1966.
Ambiguous Hoffman vs Specific Cybermonk
“Hoffman” in entheogen scholarship = Mark & Michael.
“Cybermonk” specifically is Michael, since like 1995.
Decoded Blue Bones in “Creation of Plants”!
[7:15 Nov 25, 2024] Cubensis stems are white bones that stain blue.
Scroll down a few pages to the 4 plants isolated picture crop.
This explains the blue bones in crown/cap of the blue plant 3.
i just now finally thought of a successful interp for {blue bones} in blue cap, white stems blue, to finish my proof of my identif of “God Creates Plants” (Panaeolus, Liberty Cap, Cubensis, Amanita).
My categories identifications 100% make sense.
They match my many photos of live specimens, unambiguously lining up with the 4 plants.
James Arthur was way off, poppy pod & rue?! no! not even close!
Browns got plants 1&2 mixed up – another elementary mistake, like their major, embarrassing screwup re: St. Walburga tapestry, “Amanita doesn’t have a serrated base” 🤦♂️
Browns based their whole narrative on rejecting that art piece, then flubbed it colossally, a newbie error. A useful error to note as a good example.
Browns’ identification of the four plants is likewise mixed up: dock double penalty, because both Brown AND Brown signed off on this irrational identification — quadruple penalty, because twice published.
Browns point to plant 2, the triangle semi-spear parasols with gill striations and nipple, and say “Panaeolus”, astoundingly, when clearly it is Liberty Caps in the crown/cap.
Could Browns be so drastically mistaken, making such a basic newbie error?
Yes: “Amanita doesn’t have a serrated base.”
-4 points, because the obvious mis-identification of plant 2 as Panaeolus was asserted by:
Brown 1 in 2016 – error
Brown 2 in 2016 – error
Brown 1 in 2019 – error
Brown 2 in 2019 – error
That’s the same elementary error made 4 times.
James Arthur is driven by a Soma mix theory, 5 plants.
Eadwine’s (artist’s) 3 varieties of Psil msh thus get reduced to only 1.
Arthur and Browns (3 authors!) both start Right to Left starting with Amanita, which gets way too much attention, directly at the expense of Psilocybin mushrooms.
I have a LIST of examples where the Amanita Primacy Fallacy causes deletion of Psilocybin evidence and blindness — NOT OK!
Amanita is a bully weed wiping out superior Psilo.
Europe culture history is wrong in focusing too much on Amanita, when the best myth and effects came from Psilocybin.
Pop cult runs now after Quantum Mysticism.
The same people previously went crazy for 2nd-rate Amanita, throughout European history, overshadowing Psilocybin.
Amanita entheogen scholars abuse Psilocybin by forcing Psilocybin mushrooms to serve their advocacy of Amanita as “the” Holy Mushroom, suppressing Psilocybin into a mere supporting role in service of false King Amanita.
The best, superior art & mystics knew Psilocybin is the brains behind the operation.
We are the elite minority brotherhood of Blue, against the low-quality superficial Red mushroom, with its pop exoteric esotericism. John Lash, Eadwine, Cybermonk.
Paul Lindgren in 2000 only pursued the Amanita pages in Great Canterbury Psalter.
Irvin writes in The Holy Mushroom book, Psilocybin mushrooms are irrelevant.
😇🍄🥾💥🍄🟫➡️🗑️
Eadwine’s favorite mushroom is Cubensis, not Amanita. (This got confirmed at end of day when inspected branching in Creation of Plants.)
Y’all claimed the 2nd-rate single-plant fallacies, and left me to settle for owning the BEST single-plant fallacy: Cubensis.
Ok, I’ll take the Cubensis single-plant fallacy, including all 300 psilo’s in a supporting role, along with Amanita placed down in a supporting role, for headshop art decoration marketing.
It was left for Lash and me to discover all the Psilocybin mushrooms in Great Canterbury Psalter, because the only pages that the pop Amanita fanatics cared about was the pages which had “the” mushroom, Amanita.
The pop entheogen scholars – exoteric esotericism – insulted that page’s Psil mushrooms as just a bonus footnote of lesser interest.
“First, starting from the right, we have Secret Amanita, the Holy Mushroom.” — all entheogen scholars bewitched by the Amanita Primacy Fallacy.
Hatsis refers to non-Amanita mushroom trees as “lesser looking”.
Challenging puzzle for pop Amanita fans:
I am revolting against that suppression of blue, that Amanita is doing. 🍄🟫>🍄
Arthur used to phone me, but I hadn’t formed my identification yet to discuss this picture (Great Canterbury Psalter: Creation of Plants) as 4 types of mushroom.
I identified the four mushroom types a few years ago; search my posts to determine the date.
In Pop Cult, Psilocybin = Cubensis, No Awareness of Liberty Cap or Panaeolus
9:30 pm Nov 25, 2024
Friend advised me to label and market the blue paradigm as:
psilocybin-driven entheogen scholarship
the Explicit Psilocybin paradigm
instead of my terms:
Cubensis-driven entheogen scholarship
the Explicit Cubensis paradigm
My favored terms/ labels I’m advancing are to go up against terms:
Amanita-driven entheogen scholarship
the Secret Amanita paradigm
friend says no one knows the word “Cubensis”, but everyone knows the word “Psilocybin”.
Ironic and interesting that the more technical, modern, molecule name “Psilocybin” is universally known, while no one knows the more specific concrete species word, “Cubensis”.
But friend didn’t know that I am crafting a PAIR of labels.
The parallel of “Amanita”, to effectively go up against “Amanita”, is not “Psilocybin”, but “Cubensis”.
The parallel of “Psilocybin” is not “Amanita”, but “Muscimol (and Ibutenic Acid)”.
“Cubensis” is the species name that can go up against “Amanita”.
Penis Envy strain is Cubensis.
Schedule 35 in Colo is ground Cubensis capsules.
Psil mushroom extract capsules is Cubensis.
Our best art evidence is Cubensis, depicting advanced skill and comprehension — not Lib Cap, Pana, or Aman.
Oss & Oeric book 1970s was how to cultivate Cubensis.
St. Eustace Crossing the River window is Cubensis.
Great Canterbury Psalter best panels f134, f144, & f177 are Cubensis.
Instead, when “consulting” the expert authorities, you have to have “pers. corr.” like Huggins and Letcher, with stopwatch in hand to see if the authority is sufficiently quick in disavowing pilzbaum.
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Doesn’t get any more credible than this, just like Wasson’s ellipses … about which Huggins says nothing, and fails to celebrate Brown 2019 for blowing the lid off censorship of Brinckmann by the pilzbaum deniers since 1968 in SOMA by Wasson.
Ordinary-State, Literalist, Reductionist Misreading of Esoteric Art: The Perspective of Those on the Outside
Inside the gates of the City of God in Rev 22, is cybernetic peace and control stability; the bride of Christ; lower control agency made to submit to the higher, uncontrollable root of control-ability; the hidden, uncontrollable, mysterious source of thoughts.
Outside the gates are the tormented, blade-poked, demon-harassed, flame-roasted, wailing and gnashing of teeth, autonomous self-control grinding its gears trying to bring childish, polluted thinking through the psychedelic eternalism gate.
WordPress mobile app can’t compose long webpages, so I’m posting this as a separate short post. Slightly improved at the present page.
“Reading secondary scholarship can be useful: it can serve as launching pads to new heights of interpretation.
“I set as a test experiment, to see what value there is in reading and commenting on secondary scholarship.
“As I was reading, more and more connections started to click, like turning the lights back on in this part of my thinking.
“Then I started to make new connections between the topics.”
I often experience that I grasp and figured out something new, even though I seemingly wrote the idea before.
Connections and perspectives are increased, like added connections in a Paul Thagard computer model of a historical paradigm shift in a field of knowledge.
A superpower that an effective scholar must have is, the ability to transform other scholars’ garbled, mis-framed, confusion-driven, clueless writings, by Those on the Outside.
Never write off a scholar altogether in a given field, especially a field that is underrepresented and only has a handful of scholars contributing any writings on the topic.
I have benefitted enormously by engaging and transforming the writings and arguments that are contributed by deniers of mushrooms in Christian history, even though they contribute an exercise on logical fallacies and wrong framing:
Wasson, Panofsky, Bennett, Letcher, Hatsis, and Huggins.
Their on-topic though badly argued writings have the potential for an astute scholar to transform them productively.
Thomas Hatsis, previously pushing against former entheogen scholar Jan Irvin, has lately contributed less on the topic of mushrooms in Christian art.
But Ronald Huggins (Hatsis Jr.) has stepped in to fill the roller derby skates of the banana Thomas “Allegro is my favorite author” Hatsis 🍌🛼 to keep the river of logical fallacies productively flowing.
Huggins contacted Wouter “Stumbling on a rock is an entheogenic practice because it can produce the same effects as a high dose of Psilocybin” Hanegraaff, in the Dizzy Salamander article.
None of them could figure out the (literalist, reductionist, ordinary-state) reason why the salamander is replaced by a Phoenix after the man kills the salamander.
“The question of how a salamander came to be depicted as a bird is beyond the scope of the present essay.
“The author [Huggins] consulted Professors Wouter J. Hanegraaff and Peter J. Forshaw of the University of Amsterdam, both specialists in Western esotericism and Hermetic philosophy.
“They were also puzzled by the images though noting their similarity to standard depictions of the Phoenix.”
I haven’t seen such puzzlement from the top historian of Western Esotericism since Hanegraaff wrote:
Saturn [the Hebdomad; the 7th sphere] … Whether the fixed stars should be included or should rather be associated with the Ogdoad [the 8th sphere] remains an open question for me.
For his dizzy article, Huggins recently contacted Letcher Hatsis (the Psychedelic Witc– Historian) in order to copypaste the same level of quality of argumentation — “sound, tried and true historiographical methodology; see my articles somewhere on the web.”
Sound methodology such as using bad argumentation and mistranslated texts, read reductionistically as if literalist writing, to constrain the meaning of the accompanying art, as if the artist’s intent is just to illustrate the text, and has no other purpose, agenda, and message to communicate.
Huggins wrote “the weight of Hatsis’ arguments has not really been appreciated within the PMT [Psychedelic Mushroom in Christian Art Theorists] community.”
I fully appreciate the weight of the failed psychedelic witch’s argumentation.
Artists purposefully present mushroom imagery in Christian art together with {branching}, {handedness}, and {stability} motifs, to depict how the threat of loss of control teaches, prods, and drives mental model transformation from the branching-possibilities model of control with automous control agency, to the eternal non-branching model with 2-level control.
The final result of this mental model transformation is figured as a marriage pact from Mithras to Sol to authorize Sol as a stable, viable, effective, consciously virtual-only control agent and locus of controllership.
Sol is vulnerable to Mithras as the uncontrollable source of control-thoughts, frozen in the heimarmene rock of pre-existing fatedness.
Sol is trained and taught by Mithras, to be reshaped and brought into full practical conformity with eternalism, in a sense stepping outside of the heimarmene serpent-wrapped cosmic rock, spiritually lifted up into the Empyrian beyond the rule of fatedness by the rock-born god, Mithras.
pilzbaum – Term coined by art historians eg Brinckmann 1906 meaning trees that look like mushrooms, in Christian art. German for mushroom-tree.
Art historians eg Brinckmann 1906 coined the term ‘pilzbaum’, meaning trees that look like mushrooms.
They assert: there exists a non-empty, easily identifiable set, in Christian art, the set of tree images that looks like mushroom to such a strong extent such that the artist must agree that the image makes viewers think of mushroom.
pilzbaum Affirmers
affirmers = anyone who asserts that any mushroom-trees are purposefully meant to be viewed as mushrooms.
pilzbaum Deniers
deniers = anyone who denies that any mushroom-trees are purposefully meant to be viewed as mushrooms.
The Pilzbaum Affirmers’ Assertion
Official definition of their assertion in the debate:
Same Given, not in dispute: The artist drew the tree using mushroom elements imagery (for portions or aspects of the tree, not the whole tree in all aspects) so strong that it makes viewers think of mushroom.
Assertion: And there is a purpose for making viewers think of mushroom. The purpose is, expressed on 3 scales:
1) Make viewers interpret the tree image as mushroom. (inferior affirmers; the Secret Amanita paradigm).
2) Make viewers interpret the entire image as description of religious psychoactive mushroom experience.
3) Make viewers interpret the entire set of entire images as description of peak religious psychoactive mushroom experience of eternalism, figured as non-branching of possibilities. (superior affirmers; the Explicit Cubensis paradigm).
Found together integrated are {mushrooms}, {branching}, {handedness}, and {stability} motifs, which together are meant to describe Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism with 2-level control, per the Egodeath theory 1997/ 2007/ 2022.
/ end of Assertion definition
Pilzbaum affirmers are called “the mycologists” per Panofsky in 1952, meaning John Ramsbottom, Rolfe & Rolfe 1925, etc.
Do not equate “the mycologists” with affirmers, as Panofsky does.
The Actual Message is not “mushrooms”, but rather: On mushrooms, possibility-branching thinking produces loss of control; eternal non-branching thinking produces stable control
The artists’ ultimate concern is to express, depict, & describe visually: on mushrooms, possibility-branching thinking produces loss of control; eternalism-thinking produces stable control.
The artists’ ultimate concern is to express: and depict & describe visually: possibilism-thinking produces loss of control; eternalism possibilism-thinking produces stable control.
“They [mushrooms] do not occur in the Bible, so far as I know [when read literally, as describing the things of the ordinary state].”
{mushrooms}, {branching}, {handedness}, and {stability} motifs are not all the ultimate message.
{mushrooms} – mostly a mere carrier for the message.
{branching} – the ultimate message.
{handedness} – a mere carrier for the message, to express that there are two distinct mental worldmodels.
{stability} – the ultimate message.
In-depth discussion in voice recording VOX_TK_6216 .wav Nov 18 2024 (unreleased). I’m considering producing Ep264 using wav files mentioned: 6216, 6220, 6225 (recorded Nov/Dec 2024).
The Pilzbaum Deniers’ Assertion
Official definition of the pilzbaum Deniers’ assertion in the debate:
A given, not in dispute: The artist drew the tree using mushroom elements imagery (for portions or aspects of the tree, not the whole tree in all aspects) so strong that it makes viewers think of mushroom.
Assertion: And there is no purpose for making viewers think of mushroom.
/ end of Assertion definition
Do not equate “the art historians” with deniers, as Panofsky does.
Deniers have no arguments that stand up to pushback; their position is indefensible and very easy to refute.
The Three Positions/ Assertions: Secret Amanita; Debunking Secret Amanita; Explicit Cubensis
I define the best Affirmers & Deniers positions.
Pop-level “debunking” of one particular narrow specific theory in order to try to appear to win “the” debate that there were no mushrooms in Christianity.
Huge problem from the start: What exactly are the positions being debated/asserted? By who, against who?
Conflation Game
Position 1: Secret Amanita
Wasson 1957; Allegro 1970; Ruck 1976.
The Moderate entheogen theory of religion.
Giveaway locutions/ lexicon: THE mushroom; A “cult”, “a mushroom”, “the Holy Mushroom”, “the sacred mushroom”.
First, Gordon Wasson proposes a single secret Amanita cult, that started in Ural mountains that spread around the world from there.
Similarly, John Allegro placed such an original secret Amanita cult at the start of Christianity.
Carl Ruck 1976-2006+ puts most of his focus on Hidden Secret Amanita.
Ruck is more enthusiastic about Secret than Amanita, in his confabulated narrative discourse fairytale cartoon moralistic story, ritually repeated at every opportunity, to construct his own personal identity as counterculture heretic (the Good Guys in the tale).
The narrow, specific, brittle Wasson/ Allegro/ Ruck Secret Amanita position/ scenario (which is Presentism).
Mainly based on Motte-and-Bailey fallacy aka moving the goalposts.
Ironically, by the time the first of these debunkers wrote, the field had already broadened and switched from Secret Amanita (announced 1997 Samorini) to Explicit Cubensis.
The debunkers aimed at an outdated position/ model/ theory, addressing a behind-the-times Pop audience.
The Theory 1 Debunkers claim they disprove [mushrooms in Christianity] (a la Position 3: Explicit Cubensis), but the only thing they disprove (if anything) is the [Secret Amanita cult spread] position/ argument/ assertion – a hybrid of Wasson & Allegro.
I can grant that the Secret Amanita Debunkers won their debate. But the field (Samorini 1997; Michael Hoffman 2002; and (post-Letcher 2005): Brown 2016) had already moved past that debate/framing/position.
Timing of Hatsis: When 2013-2015 Hatsis wrote against Irvin, I was already tracking the forthcoming book by Brown 2016. Hatsis was writing prior to Browns’ book.
Hatsis in 2018 wrote book with poor handling of mushrooms in Christian art, that failed to step up to the debate, but lectured instead on historiography: Psychedelic Mystery Traditions (2018)
Psychedelic Mystery Traditions (2018) is a ripoff of $ re: mushrooms in Christian art; fails to do what it claims to do- SLOPPY ARG’N:
“For the proof supporting my self-aggrandizing methodology lecture, disproving mushrooms in Christian art, leave this book that you paid for, and instead see my articles somewhere on the web.”
The desirable Bailey that the deniers wish they were able to defend = [there were no mushrooms in Christianity].
Sell books to pop audience marketed as disproving mushroom in Christianity – that only actually argue against the narrow, specific, brittle Wasson/ Allegro/ Ruck Secret Amanita position/ scenario (which is Presentism).
The undesired, worthless Motte that the deniers are able to defend = disproving [the secret Amanita cult theory per Wasson originating in Ural mountains and then spreading from there].
Position 3: Explicit Cubensis
Samorini 1997; Michael Hoffman 2002; Brown & Brown 2016/2019/2021.
The Maximal entheogen theory of religion.
Within the set of all Christians (not “a group”, “a cult”, “a community”, “a heretic sect”, etc.), there was use of Psilocybin (Cube, Lib Cap, Pana) – as well as, incidentally and of merely minor concern, Amanita mushrooms.
There were at least two instances in any region/ era.
Not rely on concepts like “a tradition” or “traditional use” or “a tradition of use” or “a mainstream psychedelic tradition”.
This position rejects the a priori presupposition of Suppression, ie. the assumption that we should helpfully, as our proposed explanatory construct / mechanism, divide Christianity into two parts by constructing a dividing line:
On one side of the taken-for-granted barrier/ boundary line is “mainstream = Prohibitionist“; on the other side of the taken-for-granted barrier/ boundary line is “counterculture = Psychedelic“.
(Position 4: Debunking Explicit Cubensis)
Might be able to scrape together a little argumentation from the Deniers that fits this model.
The Fallacies
The Abstract Description fallacy: Pilzbaum can’t be mushrooms, because pilzbaum have “branches” (ignore that fact that those “branches” look like mushrooms)
Huggins’ Foraging Wrong article re: “Creation of Plants” Image
Great Canterbury Psalter f11 row 1 right – “Creation of Plants”/”third day”
Huggins 2024: These pilzbaum have branches, which make these not look like mushrooms at all; Just look at these branches that disqualify these pilzbaum from looking anything like mushrooms
Crop by Cybermonk; branching morphology analysis: 🔱🔱 YI IY Great Canterbury Psalter, “Creation of Plants”/”third day”, f11 row 1 right discovered by Paul Lindgren 2000 https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f11.item.zoomCrop by Cybermonk Great Canterbury Psalter, “Creation of Plants”/”third day”, f11 row 1 right
Look at these branches, which prove that these mushroom-looking plants that the art historians describe as pilzbaum do not look like mushrooms.
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Special Pleading
Art has multiple meanings (except pilzbaum)
Art interpretation basic principle: Art has multiple meanings.
What about pilzbaum?
In that special case, art can only have a single meaning, and the meaning is the non-mushroom one.
Artists have intentionality and freedom (except pilzbaum)
Art interpretation basic principle: Artists have intentionality and freedom to express themselves.
What about pilzbaum?
In that special case, artists are especially ignorant craftsmen with no freedom and no intentionality, a human copying machine forced to follow prototypes, which eventually became accepted by the art world. 🤷♂️
Viewers: Looks like mushroom.
Artist (according to the greatest art historian EVAR, Erwin Panofsky):
I don’t know anything about. It’s just the way it is. Don’t ask me, I just transfer the corrupted, re-drawn prototypes onto walls as I’m told to. I don’t have anything to do with the meaning of the picture. I am not responsible for making you think of mushrooms by painting mushroom-like features. It doesn’t mean anything at all to me, just a randomly, corruptly stylized literal tree. Don’t ask me, I’m just a craftsman.
pilzbaum artist
in all other art cases:
“The painting has 5-1/2 layers of meaning:
The literal level for children and rank outsiders ignorant of loosecog.
The analogy level, the real ultimate referent: psychedelic eternalism, how to think as an egoic agent after being taught the fatal instability of the egoic possibility-branching control model.
– unless the subject of the art is pilzbaum, in which case, the purpose of religious art is literal trees, snakes, and rocks, stylized as mushrooms non-purposefully (ie randomly corrupted templates that the art world had come to accept).
Failing to Respond to the Best Articles/ Writings: Writings that Must Be Discussed, Else Lose the Debate that Counts
Huggins doesn’t reply to my points in my 2006 Plaincourault article, doesn’t reply to Cyberdisciple’s webpages. doesn’t cite Brown’s March 2021 article in Huggins’ Feb 2021 article. doesn’t cite Brown 2019 where Panof letters published – instead says footnote 56 & 57 slightly garbled citation of the Wasson archives, “drawer, W3.2, Folder 20”.
Does Drawer W3.2, Folder 20 include two photostats of pilzbaum?
A 990 miniature showing the start of development from pine to mushroom.
A 1200s glass painting showing an emphatic mushroom crown/ cap.
Entheogen scholars need to see which pictures, and find hi-res of them online, and analyze them for {mushrooms}, {branching}, {handedness}, and {stability} motifs.
Foraging for Psychedelic Mushrooms in the Wrong Forest: The Great Canterbury Psalter as a Medieval Test Case Ronald Huggins, 2024 Die Bibel in der Kunst / Bible in the Arts Online-Journal 8, 2024 PDF: “Foraging_for_Psychedelic_Mushrooms_in_th.pdf”
Footnote 56. Erwin Panofsky to R. Gordon Wasson (May 2, 1952), in Tina and R. Gordon Wasson Ethnomycological Collection Archives, ecb00001, Series IV, drawer,[sic?] W3.2, Folder: 20. Botany Libraries, Economic Botany Library of Oakes Ames, Harvard University.
Footnote 57. Erwin Panofsky to R. Gordon Wasson (May 12, 1952), in Tina and R. Gordon Wasson, Ethnomycological Collection Archives, ecb00001, Series IV, drawer, W3.2, Folder: 20. Botany Libraries, Economic Botany Library of Oakes Ames, Harvard University.
The Presentism fallacy
Projecting 1970s Mainstream Prohibition and Counterculture Psychedelics onto Pre-Modernity as “a Suppressed Cult”.
Emperor Nixon in 71 declared War on The Mushroom.
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The Single-Referent fallacy
In art, things have multiple meanings, except in the unique case of mushroom imagery, where things can only have a single meaning — therefore not mushroom.
Chris Bennett: The tree is a Palm, therefore it is not a mushroom.
The image refers to a tree, therefore the image does not refer to a mushroom instead.
Dismissing pilzbaum is extremely easy [& worthless; strawman]: simply state the Captain Obvious literal meaning [which is not actually in dispute], and then declare victory, & exclaim extreme ignorance on the part of the opponent.
Also call the artist inept, crude, sloppy, un-conscious, and incompetent.
Chris Bennett: “Badly draw trees.” God Creates Plants – “poorly drawn ones with which it would be difficult to say what they represent.”
Based on my observations of specimens growing, they are stylized Panaeolus; Liberty Cap; Cubensis; Amanita.
Not opium or rue per James Arthur 2000.
Not “Psilocybe; Panaeolus; psilocybin mushroom; Amanita” per Brown 2016.
The Strawman fallacy
Projection, & Moving the Goalposts: Misrepresenting the Opponent’s Position
Universal comment for everything Chris “sic” Bennett writes: As I wrote in my book review of Drugs & The Bible:
Typos and grammar errors in the original.
Wasson … according to the Browns, … was thus theoretically bound to cover up theorized secret mushroom cult. … the Browns explain:
“Wasson … his position on the absence of entheogens in the Judeo-Christian tradition after 1000 BCE, … that the “mushroom-tree” in the Eden fresco at Plaincourault is indeed an Amanita muscaria … expanded the theory on the role of entheogens in religion to encompass the origins of Christianity.”
Chris Bennett, “The Fungi-Pareidolia of The Psychedelic Gospels”, p. 11
Brown wrote generally & expansively, that the point in dispute is:
entheogens in the Judeo-Christian tradition after 1000 BCE
the “mushroom-tree” in the Eden fresco at Plaincourault is Amanita
the role of entheogens in religion encompasses the origins of Christianity
Bennett wrote instead, narrowly and specifically:
theorized secret mushroom cult
Brown doesn’t employ the Allegro/ Hatsis explanatory construct “a secret Christian Amanita cult” or “a secret mushroom [=== 🍄] cult”, or “the theory of a secret cult of the Holy Mushroom, Amanita muscaria 🍄”.
The person who employs that construct is Hatsis, the #1 fan of Allegro, whose thought-world & framing is centered on and bounded by Allegro’s thought-world.
Hatsis, following Allegro’s lead, constructed the “secret Amanita cult” theory & the explanatory construct “secret Christian Amanita cult”.
Wasson may have constructed that too.
Attributing the Allegro/ Hatsis explanatory construct to Brown is strawmanning and projection; narrowing the goalposts; bait and switch; & the motte and bailey logical fallacy.
Bernward Door: Not Secret, Therefore Not Mushroom (strawman)
There really might exist some “gullible pop believer in the Shroom theory the “secret Amanita cult” theory, the Secret Amanita paradigm.
There are two warring positions: Young Hatsis vs. Old Hatsis who is out to debunk Young Hatsis. There might be two different people, one who wants to assert the “secret Amanita cult” theory and one who wants to debunk that very theory. I’m off to the side, DGAF about “secret” anything and suchlike important storytelling narrative discourse of identity definition.
Hanegraaff says un-scientific historians tell a story for themselves: a story about the Other (rejected knowledge; W Esotericism) in order to define themselves.
Non-scientific historians invent an Other, to define themselves in opposition to it.
Insight about Bernward Door Handedness
[4:20 pm Nov 24, 2024] – Bernward door: the Blame panel: Adam and Eve have crossed arms (right arm visually cut), serpent cutting view of Eve Right leg – forming {cut right arm or leg}.
Adam points at the YI Liberty Cap tree.
Adam and Eve are standing on R foot, in Eating from Tree of K panel. In Blame panel, they are on L foot, God on R foot.
This solves a problem/ antipattern I ran into: I expected Adam & Eve to stand on Right foot, lacked that – but that is present, in the Eating panel above this Blame panel.
YI branching tree morphology.
Chris Bennett merely sees a dud mushroom-tree in the “Eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil” panel of Bernward Door. p13-15 = section The Door of Salvation.
Bennett claims that there is no connection between the fig leaf tree in the Eating from ToK panel & the Liberty Cap tree in the Blaming panel below that panel.
Both panels’ Eden trees, positioned as the Tree of Knowledge, have YI morphology.
Isaiah: Angel’s Left hand fingers are splayed, matching Jesus’ splayed fingers to the right.
Where Brown 2016 wrote “The particular gesture with which the angel displays the coal”.
Was there “a Secret Amanita Cult”? I prove no; no mushroom in Christianity
Conflating bare entheogen claim with “secret” , “Amanita“, & “cult” modifiers specifically, to narrow the claim (moving the goalposts)
Conflating the bare, expansive claim with the “secret” , “Amanita“, & “cult” modifiers specifically, to narrow the claim (moving the goalposts)
Bennett assumes what we are debating is whether there was “a secret mushroom cult”.
Is Brown asserting that stupid, unhelpful, unproductive, unneeded framing, that does nothing but confuse thinking?
Alas the stupid field of entheogen scholarship is trapped, fixated, developmentally stunted, hung on that unproductive, overloaded question.
Andy Letcher in Shroom: The mushrooms on the Bernward door are not secret or hidden, therefore your guyses claim is defeated, and there is no secret mushroom. (Therefore there is no mushroom.)
Top priority for a German Reader to Assess: Brinckmann Book
Mandatory.
Attention Brown etc:
Need a German reader to check for 3 specific points in Brinckmann’s book, to check Panofsky’s claims that the book supports the pilzbaum deniers.
re: Brinckmann 1906 book
Have a German language reader check at Archive site or copy of 1906 book:
Key Questions as Page Numbers in Brinckmann’s Book
What page # discusses development of trees/ pilzbaum from pine to mushroom imagery?
What page # discusses corruption of prototypes?
What page # says that that development was universal & widespread?
What page # says that that gradualness of progressive development proves that the artist had no purpose in making viewers think of a mushroom?
Commentary about Key Questions
In 1906, Brinckmann cannot imagine any purpose like desirable magic mushroom for religious ecstasy.
His book probably lacks any notion of “purposeful” mushroom imagery, and he sees no reason to discuss whether there’s a purpose – he cannot imagine a purpose for mushroom imagery in religious art.
In 1952, Panofsky reads that lack of concept of “purpose of mushroom” as if Brinckmann had asserted “development gradually from pine to mushroom proves lack of purpose of mushroom imagery”.
Brinckmann probably wrote nothing about purpose or lack of purpose, in 1906, being purely ignorant of claims for religious ecstasy or recreational experience from mushrooms.
Pilzbaum was not a “charged”, “hot”, contentious topic, whereas in 1952, that idea was just beginning.
Brinc has no reason to fabricate and desperately steer away, and no reason to think of whether there is purpose of the mushroom shape.
In Brinc’s thought-world, there’s no such thing as “purpose” for mushroom imagery; mushroom imagery means nothing, just like branching and non-branching features used to mean nothing to me eg in 2006 when I added the “St. Eustace Crossing the River” picture to my main article b/c “Look Mummy there’s a mushroom!” – blind to branching meaning, as Brinc was blind to any mushroom meaning.
The “No True Scholar” fallacy
No competent art historian asserts pilzbaum purposefully mean mushroom.
If they were to, they would become “not competent”, and not institution-employed.
No tenured academic — with a relevant degree — who teaches on this — and who publishes on this – and who has an advanced degree — in this exact topic — asserts the ahistoricity of religious founder figures.
Also: moving the goalposts.
Argument from authority: “Consult” the authorities (in person, because they wrote nothing)
Wasson, deceptively withholding a key citation provided by Panofsky twice & Panofsky’s two photostat art pieces, wrote that Panofsky’s (a “competent art historian”) investigations of this topic concluded in denial — without giving most of Panofsky’s evidence & argumentation.
Giveaway cliche: “I reached out and consulted the art historians” — because they wrote/ published 0 sentences on this taboo topic.
Panofsky only has one weak, old, “little” book to cite, to back his claim that scholars have a firm basis for denial.
The Deniers Censor and Lie by Omission; Commit ACADEMIC FRAUD
Censored by Wasson:
Panofsky two pics of pilzbaum attached to letter 1; the twice strong recomm / citation of Brinck bk; existence of Panofsky letter 2.
Liar Huggins pretends we had Pan letter 2 since 1957 Soma. Huggins covers for Wasson’s deception & abusive insults. Wasson’s ACADEMIC FRAUD.
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The Father of Obstructing European Ethnomycology
There is no sign that Brinckmann’s book supports denial. The book supports affirming.
That’s why Wasson (the father of obstructing research) censored the citation that Panofsky 1952 urged on mycologists twice, as we now know thanks only to Brown 2019.
The two photostat art images support affirming; that explains why Wasson censored them and lied by omission, repeatedly.
To punish Wasson, we can justifiably deduce and count these as two additional art pieces that support affirming.
Wasson’s credibility is in the toilet since Brown 2019 exposed both of Panofsky’s letters.
My branching article will have two placeholders to make this point — Censored by Wasson:
We will figure out which two pilzbaum pictures Panofsky likely sent Wasson with the first letter. Look for them in the Wasson archive.
Panofsky wrote:
“Just to show what I mean, I enclose two specimens:
A 990 miniature showing the start of development from pine to mushroom
A miniature of 990 which shows the inception of the process of gradual hardening of the pine into a mushroom-like shape — CENSORED
“a miniature of ca. 990 which shows the inception of the process, viz., the gradual hardening of the pine into a mushroom-like shape,
and
A 1200s glass painting showing an emphatic mushroom crown/ cap
A glass painting of the thirteenth century which shows an even more emphatic schematization of the mushroom-like crown — CENSORED
“a glass painting of the thirteenth century, that is to say about a century later than your fresco, which shows an even more emphatic schematization of the mushroom-like crown.
I HAVE STRIPPED WASSON OF HIS TITLE, “THE FATHER OF ETHNOMYCOLOGY”.
I bestow on Wasson, with hammer and nail, a new title:
THE FATHER OF OBSTRUCTING EUROPEAN ETHNOMYCOLOGY.
The “Coerced position statement” fallacy
A cliche that pilzbaum deniers write, in their mass of obvious logical fallacies and bad argumentation:
“I reached out to ask a competent art historian whether pilzbaum mean mushroom ” —
The affirmers’ retort: thought of/ articulated by me:
The reason why you had to ask the art historian is because they wrote 0 sentences on this topic, and are therefore not competent on this point – or, to be more precise & relevant:
Their position statement on this tabooed topic is coerced; they are not permitted to affirm, or else they would lose their corrupt-institutional standing as “competent”.
Art historians are required to be deniers.
Public, non-anonymous denial proves nothing about what the art historian privately actually believes.
Corrupt-institutional art historians are permitted (but discouraged) to write either:
nothing; silence on the topic (preferred)
“pilzbaum are not purposefully mushrooms.”
Art historians employed by compromised institutions that are driven by taboo are not allowed to write “pilzbaum are purposefully mushrooms”, else they would lose their corrupt-institutional credential as “competent”.
The Hoffman Uncertainty Principle
When interrogating/ probing/ pressuring a “competent” art historian to go on record making a public statement affirming or denying that pilzbaum purposefully mean mushrooms, and measuring/ observing the resulting response:
If the art historian were to affirm, we would know that they believe the affirmative (a sincere position statement), given the coerced denial.
The art historian would lose their corrupt-institutional designation as “competent”, becoming unemployed as an institutional art historian.
That affirming doesn’t happen, because that would be a self-incriminating, forbidden position declaration.
If the art historian denies, we don’t know what the art historian believes — because the position statement is taboo and coerced, thus meaningless.
They have an incentive to lie and pretend to deny, but privately affirm.
Their negative statement or declaration (made “with impressive celerity” – Wasson) is likely an insincere position statement.
Superior Affirmers & Inferior Affirmers
“secret Amanita” theorists affirm pilzbaum purposefully mean mushrooms. Reductionist.
1) Make viewers interpret the tree image as mushroom. (inferior affirmers; the Secret Amanita paradigm).
3) Make viewers interpret the entire set of entire images as description of peak religious psychoactive mushroom experience of eternalism, figured as non-branching of possibilities. (superior affirmers; the Explicit Cubensis paradigm).
Ruck’s position: Pilzbaum are mushrooms and nothing else; not stylized trees
I reject Ruck’s position statement “mushrooms and nothing else, not stylized trees”:
Well known now are the many documented depictions of the Paradise Trees as mushrooms: mushrooms and nothing else. They look like mushrooms and that is quite frankly what they are, not stylized trees, for the mushroom played a role in Christian mysticism and so-called heretical sects. [cites Samorini 1997 (Plaincourault) & 1998 (pilzbaum).]
Jose Celdran, Carl Ruck, “Daturas for the Virgin” p. 56, 2001, Entheos Issue 2
Ruck writes “so-called heretical sects” or “so-called heretics” in all 3 Entheos issues (including in the online notes for Issue 3: Mithras article).
Nov 26 recg 6240 per nov 17 voice recg 6203 — Ruck error p 56 article Daturas Virgin: Ruck says Paradise pilzbaum are “mushrooms AND NOTHING ELSE”; they are “NOT STYLIZED TREES”.
False; pilzbaum are both mushroom and trees, i.e. branching and non-branching motifs + mushroom motifs.
Pretending Artist Denies Pilzbaum Looks Like Mushroom (the bait & switch fallacy)
Samorini 1997 article p 36 Eleusis journal, “The mushroom-tree of Plaincourault”: “did the painter intend deliberately a second (esoteric) message, or unconsciously repeat an iconographic scheme without recognizing its features … the possible fungal meaning?”
Samorini entertains the possibility, a poor position, that MAYBE ARTISTS ARE BLITHERING IDIOT MORONS WHO DISAGREE THAT PILZBAUM LOOK IN ANY WAY LIKE MUSHROOMS.
He tends to try to assess the IQ of bumpkins in his 1998 article.
Ruck advocates the poor position “pilzbaum are mushrooms and nothing else”, proving SECRET Amanita CULT. Datura p 56 2001.
Winning the non-debate by calling the artist a mentally defective, blithering idiot who is incapable of recognizing the screamingly obvious.
Art historians forfeited this argument the moment they coined the definitional classification term ‘pilzbaum’, which is a given that this is a non-empty set.
We are interpreting a set of tree images that objectively exists, so it’s not relevant to fantasize or propose or debate whether the artist is too stupid to agree to the self-evidently obvious.
“win” by denying-to-death the artist’s competence.
I made this clear (I shut out this junk move) in my official statement of the two positions assertions and what is under debate.
We are not debating whether the artist agrees that the image makes viewers think of mushroom.
The art historians’ own term pilzbauminherently asserts that the artist agrees.
They objectively look like mushroom, thus there is no need to switch the debate to the topic of the artist agreeing on this point; it is a given, not the point in dispute.
The actual debate (the point that’s actually in dispute) is whether the artist has a purpose in making viewers specifically think of mushroom.
The debate is not actually about whether the artist is too idiotic & incompetent to know which tree images are meant by pilzbaum.
No one actually, sincerely asserts that the artist fails to comprehend that their pilzbaum image looks like a mushroom.
An insincere argument that “wins” by losing & forfeiting the real argument; avoiding the actual point of dispute.
The art historians admit by definition pilzbaum objectively look like mushroom such that every viewer and every artist – as a given – must affirm that the image causes viewers to think of a mushroom.
Non-Sequitur fallacy
Means does not follow.
eg Panofsky: “The gradualness of progressive development of tree representations from pine to mushroom proves that the artist had no purpose in making viewers think of a mushroom.
“The smooth development proves that the mushroom direction of development was accidental, unintentional, and purposeless.”
retort: The development is evidence that every decade, artists purposefully tried to make trees look even more like mushrooms.
Development is evidence for purpose, not evidence for accidental clumsy unintentional corruption of alleged “prototypes” that were employed by (or even fabricated by) Panofsky as an attempted cover story.
eg: Erwin Panofsky: “There are multiple, ie hundreds! of pilzbaum, therefore, no pilzbaum purposefully means mushroom.”
His argument depends on 2 unstated items:
Silently Given: Christian art does not contain hundreds of purposeful mushrooms.
Silent Assumed Proxy Agreement: Our position on Plaincourault drives our position on all pilzbaum.
Hatsis explicitly wrote that claim of an agreed proxy commitment:
“The entire mushroom-tree debate stands or falls with Plaincourault alone; we need not consider other instances.”
No affirmer agreed on that – eg Brown, me, or Cyberdisciple.
Even Panofsky says affirmers should look at Brinckmann’s book and two photostat pictures – against Hatsis.
eg: Hatsis argues: There is no Church edict written prohibiting The Holy Mushroom (🍄) therefore no one used Amanita, and the “secret Amanita cult” theory is a myth.
Retort: There is no ancient edict, because the Church Fathers knew and believed and revered the Eucharist is Cubensis, depicted via Amanita imagery.
The “secret Amanita cult” theory (SAC)
Fallacies here include: bait and switch; move goalposts; motte and bailey.
Hatsis mentally shackles himself, limiting his thinking to the small Allegro universe, and centers his thinking around Allegro.
Allegro sets the center and boundary of Hatsis’ thought-world & concerns.
A Hatsis blog post says “Allegro is my favorite author.”
Hatsis projected; he claimed that our (the affirmers’) position is “there was a secret Amanita cult a la Allegro”, and he tried to dictate that our position/ assertion is that.
Hatsis wrote to me that we are not allowed to be interested in psilocybin mushrooms in Christian art, because that would contradict our SAC position, which is based on Allegro — that our position “came from Allegro”.
In fact Brown, Cyberdisciple, & I never held SAC, and that is not our frame of reference or an important, helpful idea.
We affirmers do not agree that that is the point being debated.
IDGAF about SAC.
I reject Allegro’s frame/ narrative/ paradigm, SAC.
I reject the Secret Amanita paradigm.
I have always held & formulated the Explicit Cubensis paradigm.
I did not read Allegro until after my 1997 core theory.
My 2002 formulation of the maximal entheogen theory of religion, ie the Explicit Cubensis paradigm, was a rebuttal to Allegro, Ruck, SAC, the Amanita primacy fallacy, & the “Secret Amanita Under Prohibition” paradigm.
The “secret Amanita cult” paradigm does not help my project of using myth to prove my 1997 core theory.
Affirmers pay no special attention to Plaincourault, and are not especially concerned about this particular mushroom-tree.
Motte-and-Bailey fallacy
The desirable bailey that the deniers wish they were able to defend = [there were no mushrooms in Christianity].
The undesired worthless motte that the deniers are able to defend = disproving [the secret Amanita cult theory per Wasson originating in Ural mountains and then spreading from there].
More specific than “moving the goalpost” fallacy or “bait and switch” fallacy.
The bailey= aggressive valuable assertion advanced; rich land, that the person wishes to defend.
The motte = weak, worthless, trivial retreated-to assertion that the person is able to “defend”; a cold sterile castle that is easy to defend, but worthless in itself, and not what the debate is actually about (ie not what the person wishes to defend), so, losing the actual argument, by trying to win some other pretended debate that no one actually cares about debating.
eg Thomas Hatsis trying to force the debate vs Brown to be about specifically “whether there was a Secret Amanita Cult (SAC)”.
Brown (ie the affirmers) is not asserting or defending that “there was a Secret Amanita Cult”, and Brown wins the actual debate, Brown’s assertion stands, bc the debate is actually about whether mushroom imagery purposefully means mushrooms.
Brinckmann 1906 lacks the concept of psychoactive mushrooms
so his interpretation of pilzbaum is invalid & irrelevant to this debate.
A point never published by anyone until now: I realized about a week ago, Nov 2024:
Brinckmann in 1906 has no concept of psychoactive mushrooms.
Or has a very thin concept connotations, siberian shamans including Lewis Carroll’s Alice in Wonderland.
Brinckmann’s alleged treatment of Pilzbaum in 1906 lacks the concept of psychoactive mushrooms.
The French mycological society didn’t assert that Plaincourault is Amanita until 1911.
Wasson and Allegro on the Tree of Knowledge as Amanita
Wasson wrote: “This fresco, an expression of French provincial Romanesque art, was first called to the attention of the learned world in the Bulletin of the Société Mycologique de France in 1911 (vol. xxvii, p. 31).”
(I didn’t copy that article from Egodeath.com to the present site.)
False Dilemma fallacy (reductionism, literalism)
Huggins 2024 article’s Conclusion section presents rules to decide whether a pilzbaum is a literal tree or a literal mushroom.
Whole/Part fallacy (moving the goalposts; Motte and Bailey)
Deniers pretending asserters claim that the tree image as a whole, on the level of the entire tree, in every visual aspect, means a physical mushroom (moving goalposts, or more precisely, bait and switch or motte-bailey)
Actually, affirmers say a pilzbaum includes mushroom imagery fragmentary elements, together with tree imagery fragmentary elements, eg branches — and cut branches, eg {cut right trunk}.
Reductionism, literalism
Mis-reading imagery that serves to describe {Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism with 2-Level Control} as if its ultimate meaning and purpose is to describe the motifs at a literal level.
Huggins: “The accompanying text proves that the depicted man is trying to kill the salamander.”
“I reached out to consult a competent Western Esotericism scholar, Hanegraaff, who has written 0 sentences on this tabooed, controversial, forbidden topic.”
“Neither Wouter Hanegraaff nor I were able to figure out why the salamander was replaced by a phoenix, in this alchemy image series.”
Conclusion section of Huggins’ article: Pilzbaum means either literal tree or literal mushroom.
That’s a false dilemma, & reductionism & literalism.
Also a bait & switch, given that no affirmer says just mushroom:
Affirmers assert pilzbaum mean both mushroom AND tree in some sense – especially, non-branching, ie depicting by analogies, psychedelic eternalism.
Huggins falsely writes that mushrooms lack branches. Mushrooms contain branching, as effects.
Mushrooms contain effects of contrasting the branching experiential model of control vs. experiencing the revelation of non-branching control-possibilities.
Cyberdisciple’s 3 categories of mushroom imagery overlap in items 2 & 3: the {stylization of physical mushroom} as branching & non-branching is also {depiction of mushroom effects}, in my article on compelling evidence & criteria of proof for identifying mushroom imagery in Christian art.
Compelling Evidence & Proof of Explicit Psilocybin Mushrooms in Christian Art to Communicate Non-Branching Stable Control
Motivation for My Entheogen Scholarship: Use Myth to Prove My Core Theory
Motivation for My Entheogen Scholarship: Use Analogies in Religious Myth and Entheogen Imagery to Prove my Core Theory, Psychedelic Eternalism with 2-level Control
todo: Add to the above article:
The integrated combination of {mushrooms}, {branching}, {handedness}, and {stability} motifs is compelling evidence & criteria of proof for positively identifying mushroom imagery in Christian art.
The concept of ‘secret’, group-contained/ -bounded (“cult”, “communities”, “sects”), “suppression” hypothesis/ explanatory construct, and the moderate/ restrictive entheogen theory of religion impede, not assist, my project.
To collect maximum data for MY hypothesis/ proposal, I need a generous net cast, not restrictive.
Motivation for Ruck’s entheogen scholarship: Construct a Prohibition Barrier Identity
The Motivation and Project Objective of the Ruck School: Construct a Prohibition Barrier to Restrict Our Entheogens to the Counterculture, and Self-Aggrandize by Pushing the Narrative of How Bad the Church Is
The Ruck paradigm is Prohibition-enabling, Prohibition-amenable, and does NOTHING to strategically repeal Psilocybin prohibition.
The purpose of Ruck’s Restrictive entheogen theory of religion is to identify with and cheerlead for the “heretical sects”.
Bennett covers this point, at “Catholics were suppressing …”
Up to this point, the Browns have been claiming evidence of mushrooms in medieval Catholic Churches and holding the view these were Catholic secrets, however here they refer to the Gnostic sects the Catholics were suppressing.
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As with Allegro and Wasson, the Brown’s are ready to flip flop [silently expanding or contracting their hypothesized presence or absence of entheogens, in an inconsistent, self-contradictory way] whenever it suits their presentation.
Bennett, The Fungi-Pareidolia of The Psychedelic Gospels
Bennett points out how Brown, by overemphasizing the “Secret” explanatory hypothesis, waffles and contradicts themselves.
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Actually, Ruck is the wafflemaster 🧇👨🍳 here, striving to get high by telling his narrative that the big bad church eliminated entheogens, AND the Christian counterculture (or later Ruck says a few elites) had entheogens everywhere (but only a few, the initiates, knew the secret).
I reject the Ruck project of laboring to construct restrictive internal walls and barriers inside the whole inclusive group of all Christians.
My project requires simply asserting the presence of entheogens within Christianity, anywhere, regardless of imagined internal divisions and barriers.
It DOESN’T MATTER, among which Christians there were or were not entheogens present – only that there were multiple instances of entheogens present, used by some Christians of whatever type.
It is not a needed, expected, useful, helpful, or clarifying explanatory construct/ hypothesis, trying to limit and identify the boundary line within Christianity.
But constructing that barrier wall is the main motivation for the Ruck approach: to cheerlead for the imagined ancient counterculture, requiring Ruck’s perpetuating Prohibition forever.
Against the Assumption of Suppression of Psychedelics in Antiquity
Reading religious myth and alchemy esotericism and medieval bestiary (w religious images) as if the genre & suitable effective interpretation mode is Literal-type writing & art.
The actual genre is analogies describing Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism with dependent, 2-level control, contrasted against Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism with autonomous control.
The ultimate purpose of the religious-myth genre is to describe by analogies, mental worldmodel transformation from the Possibilism to the Eternalism mental model of time, self, possibility, and control.
Not to depict a literal tree, mushroom, salamander, killing of salamander, or phoenix.
eg: Panofsky letter 2: “medieval religious artists had no reason to think of mushroom because the Bible, so far as I know, & saints stories lack mushrooms.”
Medieval artists were evidently finding tons of good reasons to think of mushrooms, including in the Bible.
People who read the Bible as Genre: {analogies depicting psychedelic eternalism}, find Amanita in Gen2-3, manna, Eze, Rev 2:7, 2:17; Rev 10; Rev 22.
“Those on the inside” recognize the genre, mode of interpretation/ communication, as analogies describing psychedelic eternalism.
re: saints stories: The “St. Eustace crossing the river” window in Chartres cathedral shows literal Cubensis.
Circular Reasoning fallacy (Assuming that which is to be Proved)
Given that Christianity doesn’t have hundreds of purposefully mushroom-looking trees, any pilzbaum cannot purposefully mean mushroom.
Both of Panofsky’s letters to Wasson rely on this fallacy.
aka Assuming that which is to be proved.
Proxy Premise
Panofsky silently takes it for granted that both sides agree that how we decide re: Plaincourault (affirm or deny) must apply to all pilzbaum.
If Plaincourault purposefully means mushroom, then all pilzbaum must also purposefully mean mushrooms.
No need to debate the hundreds of pilzbaum; as Hatsis (denier) wrote – and no affirmer agrees – “the entire pilzbaum debate stands or falls with Plaincourault; no need to examine any other pilzbaum.”
eg both armies in a battle agree to become slaves to the other if their best soldier loses in a proxy 1-on-1 fight, instead of everyone getting harmed in battle.
5 Things Censored in Panofsky by Deceiver Wasson, Lying by Omission
Brinckmann citation 1.
A 990 miniature showing the start of development from pine to mushroom
A 1200s glass painting showing an emphatic mushroom crown/ cap
Letter 2.
Brinckmann citation 2.
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17:00 – 5 items Wasson censored. Identified the 3 questions of what pages of Brinckmann asserts things for Erwin Panofsky to use him to deny that pilzbaum purposes mushroom.
Mushrooms have branching, and especially non branching – in their effects.
27:00 tree of life produces 12 fruits + healing leaves = 13 entheogens. Not just Amanita per Clark Heinrich, or cannabis-only per Chris Bennett with “12 uses”.
Text-First Fallacy: Text or It Didn’t Happen
Pics or it didn’t happen. Here, the demand is: Text or it didn’t happen.
Art interpretation basic principle: Artists are independent from the accompanying text.
What about pilzbaum?
That’s a special case. It’s reversed evidence-types, in this case. Artist is slave to the text, serving to illustrate the text as literalistically as possible.
Scholars Huggins and Hatsis are used to approaching texts, not visual messaging.
They expect that artists, too, approach communication via text first. Art explains the nain thing, text.
Illustrate what the text says, to help users/ viewers/ “the reader” to understand the real thing, the text.
Pictures exist to serve the text, they wrongly assume.
In fact the artists have an independent agenda/ purpose.
The purpose of the picture is to express Transcendent Knowledge, psychedelic eternalism, not to serve the text.
The referent of the text is psychedelic eternalism.
The referent of the art is psychedelic eternalism – not the text, as Huggins assumes.
The art’s purpose is to serve to describe psychedelic eternalism, not to serve illustrating the text, as Huggins wrongly assumes.
Art was a first-class primary communication medium.
Huggins tries to demote the art to a mere 2nd-class communication medium, reflecting his bias as a modern-era scholar who assumes a text-first, illustration-second approach.
Kettle Logic
Presenting a set of arguments that contradict each other.
Panofsky letter 2 sentences 1-3:
“Maybe medieval witches in France used Amanita TO INDUCE ECSTASY.”
Panofsky letter 2 sentences 7-8:
“Religious medieval art had LITTLE REASON TO THINK OF MUSHROOMS at all [because] they do not occur in the Bible, … nor in the legends of the saints.”
What the artists were actually thinking about in this genre is not mushrooms.
Art’s message is not mushrooms, but rather, psychedelic eternalism induced by mushrooms.
Mis-Reading Non-Naturalistic Art by the Rules of Naturalistic Art
Vagueness & Self-Contradiction Supporting the Motte and Bailey Fallacy: Pilzbaum don’t “look like” Mushrooms
Branching stylization does not “rule out” purposeful mushroom imagery.
Art historians call them & describe them as pilzbaum, contradicting any vague claim that “the branching features makes pilzbaum not look like a mushroom.”
Captain Obvious: Pilzbaum have tree features in addition to mushroom features. Therefore a pilzbaum doesn’t look like a mushroom.”
Retort: Then it doesn’t look like a tree, either, by the same reasoning. Which would “rule out” a tree.
“This can’t be Amanita, because the dots are in neat rows (in this crude art).”
the image in the Fresco is a poorly drawn tree. Unlike a mushroom, it has branches, even three going up to the top portion of the tree, and the serpent holding the traditional apple is woven between then, which would rule out the single stem of a mushroom.
Although there are dots on the image, as with the white dots of the amanita muscaria, unlike the mushroom, where the white dots appear sporadically, on the tree these are structured neatly in rows, and there are lines indicating overlaying layers of growth. There is also an apple depicted on the right in the serpent’s mouth.
What this image is, is in fact evidence of how much things had fallen in the centuries known in the Dark Ages, and the skills of pre Christian art were largely lost, as were many other aspects of civilization and culture…. Child like art.
The Fungi-Pareidolia of The Psychedelic Gospels, By Chris Bennett, August 5, 2021
(typos in the original)
This genre of {mushrooms}, {branching}, {handedness}, and {stability} motifs represents more profound knowledge than smug, self-satisfied, hubristic, “those on the outside”, know-nothing, Modern commenters.
Deniers like Panofsky are eager to smear and dehumanize the artists they presume to study, to try to uphold their denial.
Bennett changes the topic to dumping on the big bad church, a hobbyhorse that is more important to most entheogen scholars than their Secret Amanita obsession and framing that they imprison their thinking in.
The Physical Threat fallacy: I am going to have those who believe this bullsh!t crying in a corner
Farewell to Reason Paul Feyerabend’s book Farewell to Reason, chapter “Progress in Philosophy, the Sciences and the Arts”, section “Progress in the Arts ” pp. 148-153, discusses advantages of diagrammatic non-naturalistic style to describe and depict things of the highest order, superior to the Naturalistic style, which is reductionistic, like Huggins’ 2024 article against mushroom-trees.
Brown article against Hatsis at Hancock site: Christianity’s Psychedelic History: Reply to Thomas Hatsis’ Review of The Psychedelic Gospels Jerry Brown 24th February 2022 https://grahamhancock.com/brownj1/
The Egodeath theory 
