Late Antiquity Confusingly Transposed Valuation onto the Move from Eternalism to Post-Eternalism

What psychedelics reveal is pretty negative and offensive to egoic freewill power.

When Jesus told them the truth, many followers left him. My way is nonbranchingly narrow.

How can we spin this?

“God’s power rescues and saves you from the eternalism block universe prison/ puppethood (His Creation) that He reveals to you through His revelation of His power!” 👍👎👍👎👍👎

I love eternalism, i love it not, i love eternalism, 🌼

I’m getting confirmation on my 2006 article section “transcending determinism requires two jumps”.

We see that in Hanegraaff’s June 30, 2022 book Hermetic Spirituality.

Hanegraaff is confused to the point of he tries to put eternalism before Rebirth, tries to put fate[stars] below rebirth[top of saturn] in the standard mystic cosmos model, against Science and against universal mystic tradition.

I have successfully now explained exactly why Hanegraaff makes the mistake that he does and why he feels forced to lower the fixed stars down below the top of Saturn level.

late antiquity transposed their positive and negative values so as to place fate in the negative category, when really the revelation of fate is the main thing that is revealed in the Altered State

when you look at more anti-cosmos styled Mystery religion initiation like gnosticism and Hermetic Spirituality, you can get confused (they confuse things) because they put a negative value on the revelation of no-free-will instead of focusing on the positive, that you become enlightened, they instead by that late date focused on the negative: you become enlightened that you are a helpless puppet frozen into the prison of the block universe 👎👎

which is true; you are such a snake frozen in rock

that is what is revealed in enlightenment, is no free will, puppethood, enslavement to Fate/ eternalism.

eternalism has both positive and negative values

we get really confused when late antiquity puts the emphasis on the negative aspect of enlightenment

they present Transcendent Knowledge and they say this is bad, this is no free will, this is fate, this is enslavement in the block universe.

like William James – though I haven’t really been able to confirm this, but William James supposedly railed against “the iron block universe”.

I have a book about that but I can’t find a specific discussion where he criticizes “the iron block universe”.

people resist block universe determinism and they look at the negative side, so now it becomes confusing.

in Mithraism, Helios is lower than Mithras, and you might get the impression that Helios equals delusion (we are so used to that binary thinking/ valuation!), when in fact, Helios equals basic main rebirth enlightenment about no-free-will/ eternalism.

You cannot possibly climb up to the third level, Mithras, (a thin, derived, as-if, artificial level = return to baseline state of tight cog binding in which is freewill-shaped experiencing; experiential mode) without embracing and approaching and striving to reach level two, which is Helios: the no-free-will revelation.

Hanegraaff tries to put no free will on the delusion side of the rebirth equation; he ends up demonizing and putting in the trashcan the main Revelation the main mental model transformation he puts in the garbage can

he sees that in late antiquity as opposed to early antiquity people emphasize the move from phase 2 to phase 3 , they emphasized the bad thing about what is revealed in the altered state, and they now focus their energy on bragging about “transcending Transcendent Knowledge”, transcending the bad aspect of what you discover in Transcendent Knowledge

they formulated a confusing idea of ultra Transcendent Knowledge which bragged about moving-

this higher God moves you out from no free will block universe fate and non-Branching, and we treat now all of that as negative bad delusion or something like delusion, something undesirable to avoid and hate and discard and cast off, and the God now rescues you from the undesirable aspect of what is in fact revealed to be the truth in the altered state.

This is a confusing flip of values, and Hanegraaff would be shocked that what is in fact revealed in the altered state is that we are imprisoned in no-free-will prison iron block rock king turned to stone helplessly per Erik Davis page 118 122 in book Led Zeppelin IV book re Stairway song.

No one claimed the psychedelic state reveals only positive aspects. The negative aspects of what is revealed must be accounted for,

The torments in Hermetic texts are a clue here, framed as “negative psychological traits to be exorcised”.

In late antiquity, they attach a minus sign to what is in fact the great revelation, the main revelation in the altered state, the revelation of block universe determinism, which is where the idea of {purifying the pollution} comes from, {purifying the impurity}.

To become right with God-mode thinking and become stable in the altered state, you have to affirm no-free-will; you have to affirm block-universe determinism.

You’re affirming something that is very shocking and negative: being a puppet frozen rock helplessly with no possibilities branching.

Everybody, all the children in late antiquity were born into a world where everybody said “there’s no free will”, everybody said “there’s block universe determinism”.

They focused more and more on the negative downside of that revelation.

This explains exactly why HannahGraff became confused to the point to the extreme point of putting the fixed stars lower than the top of planet level seven!

because he knows the fixed stars is Fate, block universe determinism, and he knows that it’s a given that rebirth is stationary: it is fixed at the top of planet level seven.

that is confusing to us in our culture which has not yet awakened to eternalism, block-universe determinism.

Despite the anti-Fate theme in late antiquity, they weren’t so free-form brazen in their poetry that they would transpose Rebirth to occur higher up in the cosmos model.

they knew the truth is that you get reborn from naïve freewill into the revelation of no-free-will, and so they did not really say that there are two rebirths.

they continue the old tradition of saying there is one rebirth, there is one ego death and rebirth, and that is specifically from naïve freewill thinking into the revelation of no-free-will.

That is the ego death and the rebirth, there.

they could only weakly with a dim echo could they claim the false claim that “we are reborn out from evil deluded block universe determinism, reborn into being above the evil deluded Bad Creation – the block universe”.

they were not that brazen (other than the more radical of the gnostic contrarians), but we do end up conflating in a confusing way by late antiquity, we have a confusing overlaying where is the idea of rebirth is remapped onto the entire jump all the way from naïve freewill up to Qualified possibility thinking, qualified freewill thinking, leaping entirely over block universe determinism, and treating block universe determinism as if it is delusion and bad and evil and we must put it in the Rejected wastebasket 🗑

levels one and two become conflated with each other in relation to level 3, from the point of view of late antiquity, when you put a strong negative sign on what is ACTUALLY revealed in the mystic experience, pretty soon and then you move sort of poetically speaking, you move “higher than that”, “higher than the revealed noxious fact of eternalism”.

from that late antiquity’s third phase point of view, looking back down on what is revealed in the altered state, now we’re going to put a negative sign on revealed no-free-will and lump Fate/ eternalism together with rank naive delusion of the non-initiated state.

The transformative Fate/ no-free-will revelation became lumped together with rank sheer ignorant delusion egoic thinking, when in fact, no-free-will is exactly what the altered state reveals, whether you like it or not.

In Rock lyrics, this is the high tragedy fascinating discovery theme that is reported.

even after you fabricate the poetic idea of making/fabricating, in wishful-thinking land, an additional higher transcendent level that’s above block universe determinism,

The ancients knew that it would be a lie to claim that the ego death and rebirth experience takes you from block universe determinism into ultra transcendent free will – that would be taking poetic license too far and really it would be a lie and a complete misrepresentation because they knew the fact is the ego death experience specifically takes you from naïve freewill into the revelation of block universe eternalism.

There’s only one ego death/ rebirth experience.

What happened in the end is that they mapped the idea of the rebirth onto the entire two-level jump to take you all the way from naïve free will to alleged figuratively speaking Transcendent brand of free will:

“the God lifts you up out of the evil frozen block universe during your ego death Rebirth experience “

That framing is largely fanciful; this is largely poetic ambiguity:

the basic fact remains, against Hermetic spirituality and their demonization of fate, the true basic main overwhelming ego death & rebirth experience delivers you into puppet block universe determinism/ eternalism, enslavement to Fate, imprisoned, no free will, non-branching possibilities.

then after that, actually you have a minor little small step up when you return to the ordinary state, you return to as if Freewill thinking again, and so “the God has rescued you from his evil block universe”

the fact remains: Transcendent knowledge is primarily the revelation of block universe determinism!!

The experiences of puppethood and being imprisoned in rock, per Rock lyrics.

Rush’s Necromancer song ends with release from the eternalism prison experience.

that is the main thing that is revealed, no matter how much you try to sugarcoat that and talk about making big claims to transcend the iron block universe, and you attach a big negative sign on what is revealed during mystic revelation, and you say this is a demonic revelation, this is a terrible bad negative revealed truth , so we are going to invert everything and make it all confusing and try to associate the idea of rebirth with super transcendent freewill, even though it’s going to confuse everybody, and in fact prevent enlightenment, and prevent you from being able to enter the loose cog state with control-stability, because now you’re claiming that block universe determinism is a bad thing to avoid, and we need to lower the fixed stars down below the rebirth experience.

which is why Hanegraaff does that, even though he doesn’t understand why he is forced to tell scientific nonsense and go up against the universal convention of saying that the fixed stars are fate/ heimarmene that is revealed above/ after the level of rebirth.

I have confirmed my 2006 article section and hypothesis that transcending determinism requires two jumps

I have explained exactly why Hanegraaff fell into this confusion that went to the extreme development of actually removing the stars (heimarmene) from the sky so that they would not be above/after ego death and rebirth.

Mithraism provides an especially-

Mithraism according to David Ulansey — but you need to add the altered state, because he is unfortunately single state cognitive science of religion he is a mere scientist ordinary state scientist unfortunately

Mithraism according to David Ulansey is its cosmos model is all about transcendence and he puts all that focus on moving from phase 2 to phase 3 in late antiquity

how do we move from block universe eternalism which is revealed moving up to above that sort of kind of a little bit in a limited sense we are rescued by Mithras from the realm of Helios; heimarmene.

but they emphasized, interestingly they emphasized positive affirmation of both block universe determinism Helios and also being kind of sort of a little bit lifted out from that by Mithras.

Mithraism is a relatively positive cosmos model or usage of the standard cosmos model which climbs a ladder positively from one Enlightenment rung to a slightly higher enlightenment rung, without demonizing the lower enlightenment rung, which is the main ego death/ Rebirth revelation of no-free-will block universe determinism helpless puppet frozen and rock

we do not demonize eternalism, in Mithraism.

we instead glorify block universe determinism as the God Helios, who is in a healthy relationship with Mithras the ultra Transcendent God who is above block-universe no-free-will.

voice transcription said daimonization for a while, a hanegraaffism, he tries to be positive about demon possession, But he ought to try to be positive about fate and not fall headlong into the mistake of simply and only putting a negative sign in front of Fate/ eternalism , because it is exactly fate/ eternalism is precisely what is revealed during ego death and rebirth

the revelation of transcendent truth is precisely fate

even though you have a love-hate relationship and especially and late antiquity had a complicated confusing love-hate relationship with fate/ eternalism, so that sometimes associated Fate with lower delusion, something to be left behind and avoided.

but that is disaster to the stairway to heaven

you cannot simply put a negative sign in front of fate, because it’s the main thing that’s revealed in Transcendent Knowledge ego death and rebirth, like it or not.

if you want transcendence, you have to love and embrace fate/ eternalism and don’t merely only point out and only emphasize its downside.

you have to put it on the pedestal.

you have to; there’s no option

you have to put it on a pedestal.

Even if you complain about eternalism, you still have to put it on a pedestal.

Fate/ eternalism is the main thing that’s revealed, I don’t care if you don’t like aspects of it, too damn bad.

You need to put Fate/ eternalism on a pedestal, or you will never achieve enlightenment, and you will certainly never reach super transcendent enlightenment along the theme of “God rescues you from the problem of block universe determinism”.

You’ll never get to phase 3 by burning and destroying and deleting and avoiding phase 2 and hating it.

You have to desire and want phase 2, revelation of and compliance with eternalism.

To withstand the loose cog state, you have to desire and want fate, sacrifice to the block universe prison, puppthood.

Brinckmann and Brown Book Plates Handedness Branching Youth in Tree Jesus Riding Donkey

Photo credit: Julie M. Brown, used with permission, crop by Cybermonk August 27, 2022
crop by Cybermonk August 27, 2022
Photo credit: Julie M. Brown, used with permission, crop by Cybermonk August 27, 2022

Same scene and motifs in both of theses donkey/ tree images: Youth in a tree, holding a branch in left hand, holding a broken branch or removed branches (affirming non-branching) in right hand.

2 new instances recognized, discovered, and identified in the context of messing around shuffling and displaying sets of my gallery images in the context of Idea Development page 14, by Cybermonk August 26, 2022, cross-confirmed 2 new cases confirmed on August 27, 2022.

On the 26th, I noticed and hypothesized. On the 27th I confirmed that I am able to defend these finds. I found/recognized these two paintings together when I placed them into my collection of images of PERSON IN TREE.

Idea Development page 14

Newly recognized identified painting 1

Photo credit: Julie M. Brown, used with permission by Cybermonk.
Dec. 2022: I now have the wide version including curved knife upper right, and full figure holding curved knife.

Interpretation breakthrough August 26, 2022, confirmation August 27, 2022, by Cybermonk: 

  • Right foot down.
  • Weight on right leg.
  • Right foot touching right foot on ground.
  • Right arm non-branching, left arm branching.

Photo credit: Julie M. Brown, used with permission by Cybermonk.

Holding branching with left hand, cutting/removing branching with right hand, or holding non-branching with right hand.
I posted a timestamp of this discovery late 2022 in another page (first from Brown photo then from later recovered rightmost side to view entire figure holding curved knife). — Cybermonk

Newly recognized identified painting 2

crop by Cybermonk

Brinckmann, Mushroom Trees, & Asymmetrical Branching https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/12/11/brinckmann-mushroom-trees-asymmetrical-branching/

Jesus’ right foot touching donkey’s right foot on ground, left lifted.

left hoof raised, weight on right hoof, crop by Cybermonk
crop by Cybermonk to show that psilocybin mushroom tree is in same image as left hoof or foot raised and affirmation of non-branching
left heels up, right heels down, weight resting on right leg. crop by Cybermonk
Cautes and Cautopates are balanced, weight on either leg/heel: use integrated advanced eternalism-thinking and qualified possibilism-thinking. Ken Wilber-approved.

Step Aside Plaincourault Fresco, Make Way for the Eadwine Image (of Non-Branching Initiation for Stable Control)

By analogy with “plaincourault”, we have “Eadwine” as shorthand.

Folio page f134 is SO much more important than their other surrounding 74 mushroom plants and images, that when I say “Eadwine row 2 right”, that means by default, of the full image on folio page f134.

I have a need for shorthand. OF COURSE I’m talking about f134, don’t be dense. It towers over the manuscript.

Step Aside Plaincourault Fresco, Make Way for the Eadwine Image

Psilocybin the Official Single-Plant Fallacy of the Egodeath Theory

The Egodeath theory is the proud home, as the multi-state cognitive science of religion fully successful explanatory theory: the Egodeath theory is proud to be the home of the psilocybin single-plant fallacy, towering above every other plant, which pales next to the king, the gold reference standard, Psilocybin.

For entheogen scholarship and theory of multistate cog sci o religion, Psilocybin serves as one-stop shopping for all your theory-construction needs.

There is a good reason why the Good Friday experiment x 2 did not mess around with stupid phony ineffective replacement substitutes, demonic avoidance tactics, but went straight to the real-deal gold-standard reference, maximum chance of success, minimum chance of BS baloney, Psilocybin.

By committing to this model and rejecting the bogus substitute alternatives, I credit this with the success of this theory, is this choice of committing to this as the intended plant.

Whenever anyone in Hellenism or Christendom shows the third-rate fallback plants, they’re wishing that it were psilocybin instead.

Regarding entheogen history scholarship, in today’s voice recording Egodeath Mystery Show episode 218 – Divine Helios Mithras (August 27, 2022) https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/07/14/idea-development-page-14/#Egodeath-Mystery-Show-episode-218 ,

I reiterate my commitment vows:

Any time in Hellenism and Christendom, when they use scopolamine and amanita, they are wishing and pretending that they are using the good thing that they want it to be, that they are thinking of, which is cubensis; Psilocybin.

Psilocybin is truly a proper hypothesis, completely determinate, completely specific, especially Eadwine’s two bowls of Cubensis one and a half hours apart for 10 weeks, is the measure and the reference standard of efficacy (for revealing that you don’t control the source of your control-thoughts) which any false, phony, fraudulent, avoidance-driven claims, to substitute with an ersatz, non-threatening substitute in order to prevent and avoid enlightenment, such as non-drug cave meditation – throw that in the garbage can; and non-drug imagination exercises (ie. psilocybin-diminishing) – throw that in the garbage can (unless done correctly 🍄 per the true authentic traditional methods of the mystics).

They Are Merely Recovery Day Activities

Specifically, loosecog 1x or as often as 2x/week, using tightcog-based OSC-based meditation on recovery days.

left branching illusion,
right non-branching truth

Ezekiel and Revelation use the image of amanita in order to describe the intended referent, which is the experience that results from Psilocybin.

As I posted as an Academia.edu comment on Brown’s 2022 article rebuttal to Thomas Hatsis mainly published at Graham Hancock website.

Entheogenic Rebirth Reveals Heimarmene Is the Source of Control-Thoughts

Revised book review title designed to rebut & correct Hanegraaff. Links to the Egodeath theory’s focus on the cybernetic theory of ego transcendence.

Includes ‘Source’ rather than magical word ‘Ogdoad’. Adds the key word Rebirth that’s the problem in its level relationship with heimarmene / eternalism.

Rebirth is below heimarmene, not above it, even if the Hermetic texts irreverently lower Fate as if it’s below Rebirth and is disconnected from the Source.

Reverent negativity toward eternalism is good and effective.

Embracing heimarmene/the Source is two aspects of the same identical thing.

You cannot be irreverent towards Fate and reverent towards the Source, because these are two aspects of the same thing.

If you avoid Fate and don’t reverently sacrifice to it, then you are also avoiding the Source and avoiding enlightenment and avoiding mental transformation, and are dualistically splitting apart two aspects of the same thing: God and the Creation; the Source and heimarmene.

Mithraism and Christianity both had the correct reverent negativity towards fate /heimarmene/ providence/ eternalism.

Hermetic/Gnostic texts had a dysfunctional irreverent attitude towards heimarmene (toward the transformative revelation that you don’t control the source of your control thoughts).

The fate-irreverent attitude tells you to avoid the fatedness revelation, and so it makes you avoid God; it makes you avoid enlightenment, mental transformation to become in conformity with Fate/ eternalism.

The fate-irreverent attitude makes you avoid the source of control thoughts.

The book Hermetic Spirituality tells us to avoid the source of control thoughts (heimarmene), while at the same time it tells us to approach the source of all that exists.

This is dualistic. This is trying to take opposite attitudes towards two aspects of the same thing.

I discuss this in August 26 voice recordings for Egodeath Mystery Show.

My approach the Egodeath Theory is based not in mythology/esotericism, but in Multi-State Cognitive Science, including Multi-State Cognitive Science of Religion.

Luther H. Martin & David Ulansey are merely in the approach/field of Single-State Cognitive Science of Religion, which is a contradiction in terms a la exotericism.

I disrespect single state science; I disrespect cognitive science of religion that is single state.

The correct cognitive science of religion must be multi state cognitive science of religion.

MS-CSR is good, SS-CSR is incorrect and bad and not helpful and it’s barking up the wrong tree.

It is the exoteric version of the field.

It is not the good esoteric altered-state version of the field.

They provide irrelevancies, including the tendency towards neuroreductionism.

In my book review, I put the emphasis on my foundation being my core Theory, my Scientific basis of my model of multi-state mental development.

Because of Hanegraaff, I am revising my emphasis in my concept-labels.

I now word my two-level Max Freakout model:

The mind changes from possibilism-thinking to eternalism-thinking (including qualified possibilism-thinking).

I do not write:

The mind changes from possibilism-thinking to qualified possibilism-thinking (including eternalism-thinking).

We don’t end up with “qualified possibilism-thinking (including eternalism-thinking)”.

Rather:

We end up with “eternalism-thinking (including qualified possibilism-thinking)”.

Emphasize eternalism, not possibilism as the end-state, because ego (“I control the source of my control-thoughts”) falsely premised thinking, like Hanegraaff, would latch onto the message “we end up with possibilism” and reify delusion and overvalue possibilism/ the freewill false premise of autonomous control power.

this way of expressing it will cover will make this 2- level model a complete end to end model, a simple two level expression of it , all the way from start to finish, because

What you end up with is eternalism-thinking (minor detail: do not overemphasize possibilism-thinking:

Eternalism-thinking includes qualified possibilism-thinking.

The mind must be reverent toward eternalism-thinking, not avoid and disrespect it.

Do not irreverently place heimarmene/ eternalism into Hanegraaff ‘s Rejected wastebasket like the Hermetic texts’ myth-theme of {I hate Fate} does.

You cannot be reverent toward the source and you cannot approach and come nearer to the Source (of control-thoughts) when you have that dysfunctional attitude.

We must avoid emphasizing possibilism-thinking, because egoic – like this book Hermetic Spirituality, ego will latch onto that if we say that “you end up with possibilism“-thinking.

If we say that “you end up with possibilism-thinking”, then no enlightenment will happen, because ego will latch onto that phrasing and exclude eternalism-thinking.

If we emphasize that you end up with some form of possiblism thinking, this will prevent enlightenment, because the ego will latch onto that word and will say “I control the source of my control thoughts”, and this will prevent enlightenment.

So we have to call the final state in a concept label “eternalism” not “possibilism”.

Define eternalism-thinking as “includes qualified possibilism-thinking”.

Do not define qualified possibilism-thinking as “includes eternalism-thinking”. If you say qualified possibilism-thinking, also emphasize “advanced eternalism-thinking” or “including eternalism-thinking” as the necessary requisite basis for qualified possibilism-thinking.

You do not have qualified possibilism-thinking without eternalism-thinking as its foundation.

It is extremely important to pick good concept labels.

The lexicon is extremely important because a bad lexicon will mislead wishful thinking.

Hermetic texts used a bad lexicon: they employed the popular theme of hatred and disrespect for fate/eternalism: (you don’t control the source of your control thoughts; that is fate; that is revealed heimarmene.

And the result confused this book so that he ended up putting rebirth above fate, above the revelation of divine eternalism, because this is the upside-down attitude that gnostics and hermetic texts in the popular spirit of the day in late antiquity they truly do put fate below ego death & rebirth.

This is how they avoided enlightenment, in their malformed mystery religion brand based on the theme of “I hate and I avoid fate” (yet claim to pursue God).

The “I hate and avoid Fate/ eternalism ” version of mystery religion initiation doesn’t work.

“I hate and disrespect eternalism” is not a viable initiation-brand theme that draws the mind toward and through the control attractor vortex toward revelation of eternalism and toward stable nondual unity God-consciousness.

Christianity correctly criticized gnosticism and Hermetists and for being dualistic and anti-Cosmos.

Mithraism rightly glorifies Helios the demiurgic god of eternalism/ heimarmene/ fatedness.

Even if April D. DeConic’s book The Gnostic New Age, even if that’s correct that they were clever contrarians, this is not a viable theme for mystery-religion initiation, this theme of “I hate and avoid the revelation that I don’t control the source of control thoughts”.

You must have a reverent negative attitude; drawing towards God in fear and trembling – not avoiding God and the Creation, which is block universe eternalism. aka heimarmene.

This is the pit that Hannagraaff fell into: he accurately represents that Hermetists have an irreverent attitude towards Fate, and this is a disaster that prevents enlightenment.

An irreverent attitude towards Fate is like hating feet, the legs we stand on during standing prayer.

Heimarmene is God, the uncontrollable source of control thoughts.

The experience of being a puppet controlled by an uncontrollable controller (“reverence toward the Source”) is the same thing essentially as experience of being frozen into rock (heimarmene ).

A negative attitude towards – I mean an irreverent attitude towards either of those produces the same result: control seizure and a failure of enlightenment.

The result will be avoidance and running away from enlightenment rather than embracing it and moving into it

We don’t really dare to talk about “moving beyond eternalism”, because the ego will latch on to that and try to split eternalism separate from God, which doesn’t make any sense and produces regression, regression away from God and falling below- at the same time, falling below God and falling below eternalism.

These are one and the same thing, different aspects of the same thing.

If you avoid eternalism, you avoid God.

We need to have a good kind of negative attitude reverent negative attitude: fear of God, Desdemona, and awe.

Do not have an irreverent type of negative attitude towards eternalism, or you will get control seizure and not enlightenment, and you will not reach non-dualistic embrace of God, the source of control thoughts.

Entheogens Cause Rebirth into Heimarmene in the Ogdoad

I just struck solid ground in my voice recordings.

I hit solid ground while digging, not just superficial adding 1 to the fixed stars level and adding 1 to level 8 to say that level 9 is above Fate.

All of that relatively makes no substantive change.

Rather, the Big Problem for Hanegraaff book Hermetic Spirituality is that:

I do NOT also add 1 to “what level does rebirth occur in?”

🤔 😲 🤯 😱 😵

I am NOT editing that aspect of his book.

I am editing his book to add 1 to the fixed stars to put them at level 8, and I am adding 1 to the level which is above Fate, so it is level 9 not level 8 which is above Fate.

Where the enormous change comes in is that I do NOT add 1 to the level at which rebirth occurs!!

I agree and I retain that aspect of his cosmos numbering, that indeed rebirth happens from level 7 into level 8, per Erik Davis’ book Led Zeppelin IV, pages 118 & 122 about the song Stairway to Heaven & the Egodeath theory.

We are reborn INTO Fate, we are not reborn out from fate!! Except in a subsequent minor sense.

We hear the song of level 9 after we sacrifice the freewill premise that “I control the source of my control-thoughts” and have fully settled in Fate-compliance in level 8.

The Saturn gate is the threatening of child thinking; ego death is surrender to the uncontrollable source of control-thoughts, then the mind is reborn into Fate, level 8.

This is what is devastating to his book.

And thus I have discovered what forced Hanegraaf to be irrational and what forced him to misuse the entire set of lexicon of star-related words, why he was forced to torture and misuse all of these words and aggravate his readers by misusing all of these words about stars/ constellations/ zodiac/ cosmos/ hypercosmic and any words like those.

Because if he allows the fixed stars to be at level 8 and if he says level 9 is the level which is above fate BUT when doing so, he keeps rebirth positioned between level 7 and 8 — which the texts force him to do — that means bad news for him:

We are reborn into Fate-reverence, rather than being reborn into the level above Fate.

We sacrifice in reverent honoring of Fate.

Admit it, recognize your gnostic cosmos-hating attitude Hanegraaff, pull FATE/HEIMARMENE/eternalism back out of your Rejected wastebasket, Hanegraaff.

🚫🗑

This book is a misguided and deluded egoic attempt to place Fate below and prior to rebirth, when in fact Fate-consciousness is after and higher than ego death/ rebirth.

His unstable, malformed, upside-down, unscientific, irrational, non-standard cosmos model, and his alien cosmic lexicon, results from his trying to force Fate to be lower than rebirth.

Integrate Heimarmene

Higher levels/layers contain the lower, or “overlapping”, or enfolding per onion layers.

The Source is nondual, identified with heimarmene. If you reverence the Source, you must reverence heimarmene.

We grow upwards like a tree into higher levels, or like Maslow’s hierarchy.

We add higher levels and we per Wilber tend to exclusively identify with those newer, higher developmental levels, yet the lower levels remain our foundation which we must affirm and keep strong.

Wouter Hanegraaff needs to recognize, as he kind of does, that the Hermetic writers firmly assert that Fate remains real and affects the body even of the wise initiates.

WH states repeatedly that the Hermetic texts say that even the wise, completed initiates remain forever subject to the rule of Fate.

And Hanegraaff says to reverence the Source of all that exists.

Yet he represses/ demonizes/ dissociates from Fate, he wants to hate and deny its reality, he seems a little stuck or flummoxed:

Why do the Hermetic writers keep insisting that Fate is real and continues to rule the body even of the initiates?

Hanegraaff wishes to totally demonize Fate, but he should be reverent toward it.

(Fate = heimarmene, eternalism, no-free-will, non-branching; preexisting control thoughts; you don’t control the source of your control-thoughts.)

Hanegraaff emphasizes positive attitudes toward cosmos, body, matter, and nature, yet, he really cusses-out Fate/Heimarmene as “infection, contamination, impurity, pollution, delusion” – while claiming that the Hermetic/Gnostic view isn’t anti-cosmos.

Hanegraaff, you might not demonize the cosmos, but you sure fall headlong into the mythic stylized theme/analogy of {demonizing heimarmene/Fate}! Which you outright EQUATE with the cosmos.

What Wouter says, and what he claims that the Hermetic/Gnostic writers say:

I love the cosmos.
The cosmos is heimarmene.
I hate heimarmene.

The Hermetic/Gnostic writers sure don’t seem to “embrace and include and integrate” Fate/ heimarmene, a la Ken Wilber.

The Hermetic/Gnostic writers are taking poetic license in their railing against heimarmene; WH fails to grasp how much they love/hate/ reverence Fate even while they rail against it.

Their stance is too complex/advanced for him, and he misreads it as a purely negative stance that the Hermetists have.

Hanegraaff needs to integrate the lower levels in the higher – but his Hermetic text writers themselves don’t seem to positively integrate Fate/heimarmene.

His book works hard to argue that they have a positive mental attitude, non-dualistic… yet they sure strike a tone of dualistic hating on that damned evil accursed Heimarmene.

No wonder WH assumes “No way can Hermetic writers be saying that you’re reborn into the reality & reverence of Fate/heimarmene.”

Much fault is on the part of the Hermetic writers themselves, for taking too negative a view against Fate, while yammering about how one must reverence the Source of all that really exists.

So, we have slightly egoic and dualistic world-hating (heimarmene-hating) Hermetic writers, misread by the fully egoic Hanegraaff as if they are full-on heimarmene haters – while he defends them as “totally not anti-cosmos”.

Hanegraaff’s failure to integrate the lower levels, is actually, he’s picked it up from the Hermetic writers themselves, who poetically play with the themes / analogies, “hatred of cosmic heimarmene”.

We must consider the Hermetic/Gnostic writers as mentally garbled or less than ideal: inspired yet hardly the model of integrated levels of psychospiritual development.

They got confused in their own overly mythopoetic basis of thinking, confusing, far analogies. Their advanced-stage negativity toward the revelation of heimarmene made them as if “soured on real, mystic-revelation religion”.

The attitude of Late Antiquity:

“Mystic revelation sucks! It’s a bunch of damned mentally imprisoning eternalism/heimarmene!

“What god can save us from the evil downside of the Egodeath theory revelation?!

“Mithras, save us from Helios, the demiurgic god of revealed heimarmene-prison.”

See book The Gnostic New Age by April D. DeConick, about deliberate advanced-level inversion of mystic/mythic analogies, Crowleyan inversion of analogies to make radical statements, post- mystic enlightenment.

Hermetic/Gnostic writers might tell Hanegraaff “Actually, mystic rebirth into the revelation of heimarmene kind of sucks! That’s why we’re theming a negative inverted valuation of Fate in our myth system.

“We actually are — as our critics say — anti-cosmos, in that we really are anti-heimarmene.” See Luther H. Martin, see April D. DeConick.

They all need to better integrate lower levels, as cheerleader Hanegraaff is trying to argue that they do.

So we must not be limited to Hanegraaff, and especially we must beware of being limited to the attitude of the writers of Late Antiquity.

Luther H. Martin (Studies in Hellenistic Religions, 2018) traces the increasingly sour attitude, shared in the culture at large, against Fate.

Everyone believed in “heimarmene as prison”, and increasingly resented and railed against eternalism/Fate/ heimarmene, even though they knew that mystic-state rebirth is into the revelation of the power of heimarmene, and that rebirth is into reverent compliance with frozen-rock eternalism / heimarmene/ fate.

They were experientially sophisticated enough to understandably Hate Fate, while believing in it, but they are too advanced for Hanegraaff and he just doesn’t understand what the revelation of fate, rebirth into it, is about, so he can’t imagine that rebirth was understood by Late Antiquity as “rebirth into revelation of heimarmene”.

That was the problem of the day, far from Ken Wilber’s call to healthily integrate the lower levels into the higher levels.

Since we are only now discovering the revelation of heimarmene, it is easier for us to understand the less advanced mythology attitudes of early antiquity. The album Ride the Lightning kind of rails against heimarmene; Cliff Burton could explain the post-enlightenment attitude of the Hermetic/Gnostic writers who played with the analogies of “demonize heimarmene” though they knew that rebirth is into the revelation of heimarmene.

Late Antiquity’s religious mythology emphasized often the negative side of the altered-state heimarmene revelation, like my dwelling on ego death and control seizure instead of wonderful, non-duality, pollyanna, Martin Ball-eqsue forget-the-shadow positivity.

Cosmosgate: Hanegraaff’s Demiurgic Malformed Cosmos v1.0 – Lifetime: 2 Days

I developed this idea in today’s voice recording, August 24, 2022, the Egodeath Mystery Show, which is — of necessity in this field — a comedy show.

Make way in the Scholarly Fail-Quotes Hall of Shame, yet more incoming! https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/12/04/scholarly-fail-quotes-hall-of-shame/

More Comic/Cosmic Fodder for the Egodeath Mystery Show

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More incoming fodder for my comedy show, the Egodeath Mystery Show 🎭

Joke’s on him – Hanegraaafff thinks the initiator Hermes is exorcising the heimarmene delusion from the initiate Tat – but actually, he is exorcising the freewill delusion that is bedeviling his control stability in the “alternate state of consciousness”, I’m sure on Hanegraaff’s finest high-potency batch of non-drug entheogens.

Hanegraaff calls for avoiding making mythology the foundation of your academic scholarly approach to history of esotericism, as the Religionism approach does; we must instead make scientific history our foundation – yet then he proceeds to construct a cosmos model that places the fixed stars at cosmic planetary level 7, and claims that cosmic level 8 is above heimarmene, blithely oblivious to his contradicting every astronomer and mystic cosmos author ever.

Yaldagate

John Lash obsequiously worships the most radioactive fake actor in the world, Wasson our god and savior who is the inventor and source of entheogens and who owns any and all ideas ever about religious use of fungi and plants and chemicals.

Any theories at all concerning religious use of plants are derivative variants of Wasson’s theory, including considerable, complete departures that are, still, based in the Wasson theory.

John Lash tells us we must not be mythmakers, but must take up and faithfully carry forward existing myths to sustain their integrity – and then concocts a clueless false assertion that Yaldaboth is a reptile-headed lion.

The Yaldaboth malformed monster is, in fact, a lion-headed serpent.

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Citation fkking needed!!

I looked up what I had assumed to be a citation in Hermetic texts CH I 25 to back up Hanegraaff’s wildly nonstandard cosmos model – and this Hermetic text just speaks vaguely of rising through 7 zones to reach the 8th zone whereupon he received gnosis through power, and the cited text came as far as possible from corroborating him — Hanegraaff made up this whole unstable cosmos out of his own historians’ imagination!

Typical; contravening his own directives to “base the field of academic history of Esotericism on a scientific foundation, not on religious mythology”.

Read a Science book, Hanegraaff: may I suggest Ulansey: https://www.amazon.com/Origins-Mithraic-Mysteries-Cosmology-Salvation/dp/0195067886/

When Hanegraaff lowered rung 8 of Mithras’ ladder, the sphere of the fixed stars, to fasten it to the top of rung 7, the Saturn planetary moving sphere, the fixed stars shattered and disintegrated in just two days, destroying the stairway to heaven.

How to Build a Universe That Doesn’t Fall Apart Two Days Later

1978 speech from the anthology The Shifting Realities of Philip K. Dick: Selected Literary and Philosophical Writings (1995).

Vialgate

The appropriate “take” and response and stance in reaction to Hanegraaff’s cosmos that’s a sizable portion of his book is the same as my eventual take on Brown’s throwing the St. Walburga Amanita vial tapestry in the river to show what a discerning model of discernment he is, claiming that its serrated base indicates it doesn’t match biology specimens: vialgate; faceplant; instant total loss of credibility as a judge.

This inexcusable elementary botanical identification error by both Brown and Brown tanked their whole theory; the Browns bet their theory against Jan Irvin on this vial — and lost, with me referring to “the failed Brown & Brown Psychedelic Gospels Theory v1.0”.

You have forfeited the Psychedelic Gospels theory; now it is in our hands — the Ardent Advocates — to correctly formulate the Psychedelic Gospels theory v2.0.

Brown and Brown double-biffed it royally, total faceplanted, forfeited, fumbled the ball; I picked it up and ran it to the goal.

Hanegraaff is Brown redux; this is not confident impressive bravado, but rather, devastating folly.

Learned, learned

Photo credit: Not Julie M. Brown. From their field research, which consisted of not traveling the 6 miles to see this totally not entheogenic art firsthand, unlike that lazy ardent advocate Irvin, who never travels to research libraries. From the Brown & Brown gallery of Amanita images that prove mushrooms in Christian art.

The vial in the tapestry has serrations, unlike botanical specimens, therefore the tapestry that we proudly highlight in our book’s and article’s galleries of evidence proving mushrooms in Christian art is not a mushroom and this tapestry is not entheogenic, as over-ardent advocates Irvin & Rush rashly and uncritically claim — look at us, models of sharp discernment, Hatsis the anti-mushroom psychedelic witch; please give us affirmation now.

Amanita, answer to all mysteries

Amanita is the answer and solution to explain all mysteries, by Carl “Never Tried It” Amanita Promoter Ruck – gee, whiz, look at that giant mushroom! 😲

Lettergate

Egodeath Mystery Show began with a comedy piece about Eleusis and about the Panofsky Process to develop mushroom trees into pine trees to solve the art historians’ big problem.

Getting into the Panofsky headspace/ academics’ clown suit.

In my 2006 Plaincourault article, in 2019 by Browns’ article of the same title as mine, I was proven completely correct in claiming that Wasson must have withheld scholarly citations that Panofsky had to have provided to Wasson along with Panofsky’s massive claim to Wasson that art historians were thoroughly familiar with mushroom trees in Christian art.

WHERES THE GODDAM CITATION, WASSON; CITATION FKKING NEEDED!

The Artists Would Have Omitted the Branches Altogether

Brown 2019 https://www.academia.edu/40412411/Entheogens_in_Christian_art_Wasson_Allegro_and_the_Psychedelic_Gospels
crop by Cybermonk
Photo credit: Julie M. Brown, used by permission. Image processing by Cybermonk. Left = branching delusion, right = non-branching reality.

For the trees that we art historians say look just like mushrooms to at all look like mushrooms, the medieval nonrealistic-art artist would have had to casually burn/ ignore/ discard/ trashcan the templates without a second thought, that I just two seconds ago said that they are a fully beholden slave to, and go out into nature and draw a botanically accurate mushroom scientific illustration; the artist would have had to omit the branching ramifications.

the most influential art historian, Erwin Panofsky, regarding the countless branching-message mushroom trees in Christian art, in his PAIR(!!) of letters to Wasson, May 1952
https://www.academia.edu/40412411/Entheogens_in_Christian_art_Wasson_Allegro_and_the_Psychedelic_Gospels
https://www.academia.edu/40412411/Entheogens_in_Christian_art_Wasson_Allegro_and_the_Psychedelic_Gospels
crop by Cybermonk
https://www.academia.edu/40412411/Entheogens_in_Christian_art_Wasson_Allegro_and_the_Psychedelic_Gospels
https://www.academia.edu/40412411/Entheogens_in_Christian_art_Wasson_Allegro_and_the_Psychedelic_Gospels
– crop by Cybermonk

Wasson, impeder of scholarly inquiry; censor and suppressor of citations, exactly as I accuse him of in my 2006 Plaincouralt article.

WHERES THE 🤬 CITATION, WASSON?!?! Cough it up, jerk, phony, fraud! https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/12/11/brinckmann-mushroom-trees-asymmetrical-branching/

Brinckmann, Mushroom Trees, & Asymmetrical Branching

Comments on Postings Near Aug 24 2022

YOU DON’T CONTROL YOUR SOURCE OF CONTROL-THOUGHTS.

The point of mythic analogies, religious mythology:

I need to compensate for scholars losing their way in mythology analogies and irrelevant spins on entheogens by putting extra-strong, very pointed emphasis on non-control, and why it is of the essence, and the real meaning the experience meaning of fatedness in the heimarmene-revealing altered state – and fixed stars is referring specifically to that.

By Hanegraaff’s book Hermetic Spirituality messing with the placement of the fixed stars relative to the rebirth experience, he is unknowingly messing around with the actual referent of mythic analogies, which is:

the model of what the mind’s transformative experiential trajectory is in the altered state.

That’s what we’re actually talking about and referring to when we interpret religious myth, so that needs to be our primary point of reference and orientation, not myth and its confusing play based in analogies.

In the intense mystic altered state, what is revealed most of all, above all, is timeless fate, block-universe no free will; non-branching possibilities.

YOU DON’T CONTROL THE SOURCE OF YOUR CONTROL-THOUGHTS.

That point what all this central focusing on “heimarmene” is actually all about, and that point is what we need to be explicitly and frequently centering the interpretation and discussion in terms of.

To really focus on the central point: it is revealed that you are not in control of the source of your control thoughts.

Experiencing this point is the experience of ego death, {exorcizing the demon} of possibilism-thinking.

All of this analogy is really about that and nothing else, and we need to get that straight and then tell our analogy stories built coherently around that.

This is the meaning of the fixed stars and where they fit in our trajectory of mental transformation process development process of moving from the first world model to the second world model, which is analogically mapped to the fixed stars.

And then later, we talk about “transcending” that – but only in a certain limited, orderly, controlled and narrowly specified sense, transcending fate – which means transcending the revelation that you do not control the source of your control-thoughts.

The freewill egoic premise is fully shut out in this defined “liberation from Fate” or however you market and spin it.

That is the central point, the central altered-state revelation that is mapped to the central level: the most important, main, central level is the fixed stars.

That (representing control power stability) is the central point of reference.

So you need to be sensible in where are you place that: and that is the eighth level, as everybody held – especially in Egypt, especially at that time.

Hanegraaff has gotten lost in late antiquity’s complex poetic ironic talk about “transcending”, and he has gotten lost about visionary plants and he needs to do a reality check back in, that we are talking about what are the effects of the plants on the mental model regarding control power, and then how do we map that to analogy centered around the stars – which means of course the real stars, not his fake, confused planet “stars”.

I had a vision from God or one of Hanegraaff’s daimons: like often with academics, Hanegraaff is more likely not writing out of masterful contrarianism, but out of mere ignorance building preposterous sky castles without realizing that the result flies in the face of David Ulansey’s established standard cosmology model.

Hanegraaff simply doesn’t realize that his proposal is contradicted by the standard cosmology per Eudoxus, Hipparchus, & Ptolemy (regarding that the fixed stars define the 8th cosmic level) and Christians, Mithraists, Hermetists/Theurgists, and Gnostics (and Ulansey, myself, and Erik Davis) (regarding that the 8th cosmic level is heimarmene).

He has shed much light, but there remains much darkness within the backwards underworld of academia where they are filled with superstition and taboos.

This morning I proved that he is making his radical assertions out of mere complete ignorance, rather than out of some kind of a masterful transcendent bravado.

He simply does not realize that what he’s proposing contradicts literally everybody.

And so the situation is not that I am debating against a master of the subject, but rather, I am teaching a rank newbie the basics.

Hanegraaff needs to read David Ulansey’s book and hypercosmic articles.

I proved that Hanegraaff is writing out of pure mere ignorance.

The proof that he asserts his malformed and unscientific cosmos model out of mere ignorance is the fact that he never shows any evidence of realizing that what he’s proposing is completely non-standard, regarding effectively placing fixed stars at planet level seven, and then declaring level eight to be above cosmic heimarmene.

I will be making superficial corrections of this set of errors that he makes, but the deeper error is his too negative attitude towards heimarmene, which will produce control seizure/ instability.

We must surrender to heimarmene (God’s divine creation) in order to have control stability in the altered state.

And then after getting right with cosmic heimarmene/ block-universe determinism/ non-control of our source of control-thoughts, then we can slightly transcend heimarmene after that.

He needs to say level nine is above heimarmene, not level 8.

The fixed stars go in level 8 per the standard model. Wouter Hanegraaff needs to reference David Ulansey.

Late Antiquity Transition from Worshipping Heimarmene to Worshipping Transcending Heimarmene

Site Map

Contents:

  • The Main Point of Reference for Interpretation; the Main Referent of Myth: Non-Control of Your Control-Source
  • 2-Level Model of Mental Development per the Egodeath Theory
  • 3-Level Model of Mental Development per the Egodeath Theory
  • Depictions of the 2-Level and 3-Level Models
  • Contrasting 2-Level vs. 3-Level Models
  • The Pre/Trans Fallacy: Naive Possibilism-Thinking vs. Qualified Possibilism-Thinking
  • Contrasting Carvings: 2-Level vs. 3-Level
  • Timeline Dates of Geocentric Cosmology – 2-Level & 3-Level Versions
  • Discussion
  • Altar Worshipping Serpent God
  • Metaphysics of Time
  • Hanegraaff’s ‘Rejected’ Wastebasket
  • Erik Davis: Stairway to Heaven, per the Egodeath Theory & 2-Level Geocentric Cosmology

The Main Point of Reference for Interpretation; the Main Referent of Myth: Non-Control of Your Control-Source

The main point of myth is:

The loose cognitive state reveals that you don’t control the source and origin of your control-thoughts.

This is the point of {the sphere of the fixed stars}, level 8; the Ogdoad, in astral ascent mysticism.

Cybermonk

Reality check, point of reference: what these mythemes ultimately are modelling and expressing and discussing:

The loose cognitive state reveals that you don’t control the source and origin of your control-thoughts.

“TRANSCEND HEIMARMENE” ALL YOU WANT – THAT DOESN’T CHANGE THE BASIC REVEALED CONSTRAINT, THAT YOU DON’T CONTROL YOUR CONTROL-SOURCE.

2-Level Model of Mental Development per the Egodeath Theory

2) eternalism-thinking (= cosmic level 8)

1) possibilism-thinking (= cosmic level 0)

3-Level Model of Mental Development per the Egodeath Theory

3) qualified possibilism-thinking (= cosmic level 9)

2) basic eternalism-thinking (= cosmic level 8)

1) naive possibilism-thinking (= cosmic level 0)

Depictions of the 2-Level and 3-Level Models

The simple 2-level model vs. the confusing, advanced, 3-level model.

The simple 2-level model vs. the confusing, advanced, 3-level model.

Dumb + smart guy = the 2-level model – focuses on the basic contrast between the two models of control, time, and possibility-branching.

No-limb guy-pair = the 3-level model – focuses on qualified possibilism-thinking.

The mushroom tree and the bulk of the entire image focuses on the basic 2-level model, out of practical necessity.

The image also caters to advanced discussions which require understanding the 2-level model as a prerequisite.

2-level basic contrast.

2-level basic contrast. Viable self-control in loosecog requires eternalism-thinking; depicted via non-branching.

The above scene is an example of worshipping or focusing on and asserting eternalism rather than rhetorical emphasis on worshipping transcending eternalism.

The latter can sound like a denial that eternalism is the case; such a denial produces control instability by defaulting to the freewill-premised attempt to make control agency cross the Hofstadter levels.

Any way in which we “transcend” eternalism must affirm, not deny, that eternalism is the case.

Wouter Hanegraaff’s Hermetic texts do not deny that eternalism is the case, they assert eternalism and they rhetorically aspire to, in some compatible senses, “transcend” (while yet affirming) block-universe eternalism.

The ultimate point and constraint is: you don’t control the source of your control thoughts – regardless of advanced, confusing rhetorical claims and aspirations of “transcending fate”.

The Pre/Trans Fallacy: Naive Possibilism-Thinking vs. Qualified Possibilism-Thinking

The pre/trans fallacy is hearing advanced sophisticated rhetoric of “transcending fate” by “rising above the 8th level”, and gleefully thinking like Hanegraaff seems to, “a way to make heimarmene not apply to me!” or “a way to make Heimarmene not be the case!”

The advanced initiate’s “freedom from eternalism” is NOT naive possibilism-thinking; it is very different: qualified possibilism-thinking.

“TRANSCEND HEIMARMENE” ALL YOU WANT – THAT DOESN’T CHANGE THE BASIC REVEALED CONSTRAINT, THAT YOU DON’T CONTROL YOUR CONTROL-SOURCE.

To claim otherwise is the essence of {irreverence toward the Source}, and is correctively punished by control instability in the loose cognitive association state.

Entire image.

Links are at top section of my article:
Proof that the Canterbury Psalter’s Leg-Hanging Mushroom Tree Is Psilocybe

Contrasting 2-Level vs. 3-Level Models

2-Level

150 BC: 2-level system. Transcendent Knowledge = eternalism/ heimarmene/ fatedness/ block-universe determinism.

The emphasized goal is to reach level 8 (fixed stars, eternalism-thinking).

3-Level

150 AD – 3-level system: Transcendent Knowledge = transcending eternalism / heimarmene/fatedness/ block-universe determinism.

The (mainly rhetorically) emphasized goal is to rise above level 8 to level 9 (the Ennead, the Empyrian, outside the fixed stars seeing zodiac images from outside, qualified possibilism-thinking).

Per David Ulansey: looking at the celestial asphere covered with zodiac images implies you are outside of block-universe eternalism, outside the Fate-ruled cosmos in the Empyrian.

Contrasting Carvings: 2-level vs. 3-level

Envisioning heimarmene:
150 BC: Worship Snake Carved on Rock Altar

Envisioning transcending heimarmene:
150 AD: Worship Lion Torch Born from Snake-Wrapped Rock

Timeline Dates of Geocentric Cosmology – 2-level & 3-level versions

4th C BC – Eudoxus creates geocentric cosmology with 7 planets and the 8th level of the stars

2nd C BC – Hipparchus discovers precession of the equinoxes (wobble of earth’s axis of rotation)

2nd C AD – Ptolemy formalizes mathematically the geocentric cosmology

1989 – David Ulansey book Mithraism cosmology & hypercosmic online articles http://www.mysterium.com
http://www.mysterium.com/mithras.html – book summary

2003 – Cybermonk posts posting summarizing Ulansey’s precession/ transcendent cosmology mapped to a 3-level expression of the Egodeath theory

2005 – Erik Davis combines 2-level 1997 expression of the Egodeath theory with Cybermonk 2003 posting summarizing Ulansey’s precession/ transcendent cosmology to create a 2-level simplified potent astral ascent cosmology.

2022 – Wouter Hanegraaff deletes the stars from the 8th level that they had defined, and then moves the empty slot #8 fused up to the level 9 that was defined as being above it so as to transcend heimarmene/ fatedness/ eternalism. Discards the heimarmene-stars into his Rejected wastebasket & evil/repressed Saturn level, which is ruled by negative energies/ psychological traits.

Discussion

Ancients progressed from worshipping eternalism to worshipping the transcendence of eternalism.

The claim to “transcend eternalism” is largely advanced confusing (misleading) mystical rhetoric, per competitive b.s. marketing & wishful thinking & language-game magic, inventing the freewill fog machine of complex double-talk theology.

FIRST fully understand/comprehend early antiquity’s 2-level worship of eternalism.

THEN, distinctly from that, understand the twists from adding a relatively negative valuation to eternalism which was previously equated with mystic Truth enlightenment.

See my 2006 main article’s section:
Transcending Determinism Requires Two Jumps
https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/the-entheogen-theory-of-religion-and-ego-death-2006-main-article/#Transcending-Determinism-Requires-Two-Jumps

Mithras’ Mushroom Ladder to Heaven

Mithras’ Mushroom Ladder to Heaven Beyond the Stars Where Your Soul Is Left Behind by Your Spirit.

The fixed-stars level is the main point of reference, regardless of the number of levels above it.

The fixed-stars level is the main point of reference, yet Hanegraaff is unable to at all discuss the fixed stars in his theurgy cosmology model despite all his attention to “the Ogdoad” – why does he pretend like Ogdoad is something other than the fixed stars?

Hanegraaff and I agree that the center of concern is heimarmene, which I define and explain as referring to the transformative revelation of block-universe no-free-will; most ultimately and to the point, the loose cognitive state discovery that you don’t control the source and origin of your control-thoughts.

Elaborated 10-level system, note that the key point of reference is the fixed stars as level 8, regardless how many levels breakout above that.

threatened and purified by the threat of egodeath seizure

Threatened and purified by the threat of egodeath seizure, rescued by creator, the source of control thoughts. pulled out from the jaws of the threat of control-loss cybernetic instability death demonstration.


1) rescued from resisting heimarmene, AND,
2) rescued from heimarmene

Isn’t this image by Eadwine?

You are BOTH:
1) Rescued from resisting heimarmene by the revelation of heimarmene (considered positive) and fully grasping it.
2) Rescued from heimarmene (now considered negative) to be born out from the heimarmene-threat; lifted above fateness – or lifted out of the threatening aspect of fatedness by being given reconciliation with the omnipotence of the source of your control thoughts in relation to “you” the local control agent on the other side of the boundary/level/ control system domain limit.

pulled forth from control seizure

Lazarus is pulled forth from the rock tomb of block-universe determinism control seizure demonstration that purifies and removes pollution of egoic naive freewill thinking – psilocybin(-type cave drumming meditation under Zen Master Brad) reveals and demonstrates that you are not the source of your control-thoughts.

The god-possessed mind threatens and demonstrates

The higher, god-possesed mind in the psilocybin(-type cave drumming meditation under Zen Master Brad) altered state threatens and demonstrates vulnerability of lower, egoic freewill-premised thinking.

hypercosmic key, torch, scepter

Leontocephic figure: body wrapped in heimarmene serpent, torso above it, holds hypercosmic key, torch, and scepter.

Heimarmene-controlled cosmic egg

Entheogens Reveal Heimarmene in the Ogdoad – return to baseline tightcog = qualified possibilism-thinking = the Ennead level 9 outside the fate-ruled, heimarmene-controlled cosmos of block-universe determinism.

Books for Thanksgiving week, November 29, 2013 – open book is Joseph Campbell – Power of Myth.

Let’s check in on what i’m doing on November 29, 2013.

The open book is Joseph Campbell – Power of Myth.

OH SHT i must have two copies of 1000 faces now agghhh it happened again – MUST catalog my library!

Artist: Cybermonk around 1992, ink nib & ink brush

Artiste credit Cybermonk around 1992, ink brush.

My ink nib Liberte worldline block-universe snake.

Envisioning transcending heimarmene:
150 AD: Worship Lion Torch Born from Snake-Wrapped Rock http://www.mysterium.com/lionhead_jp40.jpg

copy caption here

Dionysus mosaic. Simple 2-level system – revelation = no-free-will/Eternalism.

Today on Egodeath Mystery Show Aug 17 2022 or maybe yesterday I connected Ariadne’s garment = branching-thinking = left limb.

We now in the psyche-revealing state perceive branching thinking like a removed explicit layer of clothing that hid the non-branching spear/serpent reality of monopossibility due to pre-existing thoughts.

The main crux point is non-control – BUT, a main thing experience that produces the experience of non-control is block-universe determinism / eternalism-consciousness.

The layer of illusory egoic thinking initially covers the underlying reality, exposed by the psilocybin mushrooms in the hem folds in this Dionysus mosaic.

Altar Worshipping Serpent God

Worship snake frozen in rock – what would Hanegraaff say re: the claim to transcend heimarmene?

Future control-thoughts are revealed by psilocybin to be pre-existing and arranged as a snake-shaped worldline frozen in the rock block universe.

What would Hanegraaff say re: the claim to transcend heimarmene? This alter sacrifices to Eternalism, block-universe heimarmene, Fate, non-branching, no-free-will.

It’s hard to represent transcendent non-control experience in visual art, but you can represent the altered-state experience of non-branching stability and worldline/block universe eternalism (via the morphology mythemes {tree, snake, rock, column base}).

Frozen snake in a rock cave – sacrificing the child-thinking.

Metaphysics of Time

Snodfart’s Junior Academy – Encyclopedia of Philosophy online article: Philosophy of Time.

Snodfart’s Junior Academy – Encyclopedia of Philosophy online article: Philosophy of Time. https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/11/12/possibilism-vs-eternalism-2-models-of-time-and-control/

They are kinda dumb at that school: they fail to depict a tree under “tree model”, and they fail to show a worm/snake worldline despite all their yammering and schoolyard talk about “worm theory”.

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10-level standard cosmology with elaboration breakout of levels 9 and 10 as 9, 10, and 11. Key levels are 0, 8, 9. 0 = naive possibilism-thinking, 8 = basic eternalism-thinking, 9 = qualified possibilism-thinking. From a 2-level point of view/model, 0 = possibilism-thinking, 8 = eternalism-thinking. Elaborating the process of transition = levels 1-7. Elaborating the follow-through and return to tightcog/mundane daily life = levels 9-10 (or 9-11 in this diagram).

The cosmic heimarmene serpent is level 8.

By now, much of my thinking is slightly hard to cite citations now that I simply speak the conceptual language; “this is simply the standard usage/scheme” (shrug) and here’s what it refers to re: personal control revelation transformation.

The god of transcending eternalism makes pact with the god of eternalism.

Mithras, the god of transcending eternalism, makes a pact with Helios, the god of eternalism.

Hanegraaff’s ‘Rejected’ Wastebasket

The god of transcending eternalism makes pact with the god of eternalism – do not repress eternalism and get rid of heimarmene fixed stars level into the Rejected wastebasket like Hanegraaff’s project of book Hermetic Spirituality, the “thoroughly positive reading” of Theurgy Hermetic spirituality.*

*except for Heimarmene/fate; that’s unreal and a non-reasoning animal-like delusion. Get rid of your negative psychological traits that are associated with Heimarmene.

Hanegraaff the Hoodwinked by poet-mystics’ ironic inversions/ marketing literature.

You don’t get victory over the Fate-rulers torments by denying Fate, but rather, by sacrificing to Fate giving it due reverential honor same as you do the Source that Hanegraaff dualistically, dissociatively splits into “non-reasoning negative psychology traits associated with fate-rulers, vs. the great Source of all that exists.”

You don’t make peace with Fate by denying Fate is real; you make peace with Fate by affirming Fate’s power over your control-thoughts!

Cybermonk, against the Hanegraaff project

The ever-popular Freewill Fog project propelling eg Arminian Calvinism: 1) commit to propping up freewill egoic moral culpability premise. 2) claim to assert God’s omnipotence (but always limit that to not infringe on the most important thing, which is your moral project of propping up freewill moral agency, it’s your god-level duty to engineer and be the savior of freewill moral control power.

Abstruse complex theologies & moral-driven metaphysical philosophies are a giant project of saving freewill (the driving concern, the central god being worshipped) in the face of non-control and omnipotence and eternalism revelation.

(Wouter Hanegraaff:)

Be positive & enlightened like me: Embrace body, matter, nature, and cosmos 😊

except for Heimarmene/Fatedness/ no-free-will; that’s a demon possessing you since birth, by the archon planet rulers, get rid of that pollution and impurity, as fervently as a world-hating Gnostic dualistically rejects & escapes out from the material world, escaping into the pure realm of spirit, so we must do away with & get rid of Heimarmene

What’s in Hanegraaff’s own Rejected wastebasket? lets take a look…

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OMG IT’S FULL OF STARS!

Moment of inspiration for the idea behind this page:
The Study of Greek and Roman Religions: Insularity and Assimilation
by Roubekas:
“the academic study of religion cannot and should not be confessional.”

The Egodeath theory is cultic worship of eternalism, we worship & confess the rock-carved snake god, per Erik Davis’ 2005 book Led Zeppelin IV pp. 118-119 & 122. Per Luther H Martin’s 2018 book Studies in Hellenistic Religions, how did religion change using the Hipparchus’ discovery of precession of the equinoxes?

Mental picture of glorifying block-universe determinism vs. “being born from the snake-wrapped rock” per Ulansey’s interpretation. Note that only the lion’s head (not body) and torch are outside block-universe determinism.

Erik Davis: Stairway to Heaven, per the Egodeath Theory & 2-Level Geocentric Cosmology

Book:
Led Zeppelin IV
Erik Davis
2005
http://amzn.com/dp/0826416586/

Astral ascent 2-level possibilism to eternalism per the Egodeath theory – pp. 118-119 & 122 are regarding the song Stairway to Heaven.

David Ulansey – The Origins of the Mithraic Mysteries: Cosmology & Salvation in the Ancient World

This is a science book more than a spirituality book – provides a trustworthy foundation unlike the “scientific historian” Wouter Hanegraaff who struggles to prevent the fixed stars from being in the Ogdoad (8th sphere). Has Hanegraaff not read this book?

That’s quite possible, since as Luther H. Martin’s 2018 book (Studies in Hellenistic Religions) writes, scholars have disrespected Hellenistic-era religion and have been blind to astral ascent mysticism; spiritual ascent cosmology. Hanegraaff acts illiterate about theurgy when it comes to the fixed stars.

COOL! Amazon shows that I bought this book on February 16, 2001. The Egodeath Yahoo Group started June 2001. Posting #1 at the Egodeath Yahoo Group was 4 months after I read this book. Every posting at the Egodeath Yahoo Group is with the knowledge of this book.

https://www.amazon.com/Origins-Mithraic-Mysteries-Cosmology-Salvation/dp/0195067886

selected section of home page:

“My publications have focused on the ancient mystery religion of Mithraism. 

Summary of book: 
The Origins of the Mithraic Mysteries: Cosmology and Salvation in the Ancient World 
(Oxford University Press, revised paperback 1991) – here

Appendixes for the book:
“Those of you who have read the book in English may be interested in several important appendices written for a translation of the book.
here

Book: 
Mysteria: The Ancient Mysteries and the Evolution of Consciousness
Based on a series of lectures presented at the C.G. Jung Institute of San Francisco – here

Articles

The Mithraic Mysteries
published in Scientific American (December, 1989) – here

Mithras and the Hypercosmic Sun
here

The Eighth Gate: The Mithraic Lion-Headed Figure and the Platonic World-Soul
here

Cosmic symbolism in the Gospels
Journal of Biblical Literature – here

Cultural Transition and Spiritual Transformation: From Alexander the Great to Cyberspace
here

Errata

(bc i happen to be listening) – move to idea devmt page 14

  • Ep212c of Egodeath Mystery Show – ~59:00 – I hesitantly said “Bertrand Russell”, but I think it’s actually Karl Popper who called Minkowski “Parmenides”.