Egodeath Yahoo Group – Digest 127: 2014-12-24

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Group: egodeath Message: 6505 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2014
Subject: Re: Mytheme deciphered: one foot
The cleaned up Jason/snake kylix by Douris that I used for tree/snake understanding

Fritz Graf
Greek Mythology: An Introduction
1987
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0801853958
Group: egodeath Message: 6506 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2014
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The establishment has been proved wrong about Jesus existence. What else have they got wrong?

prohibition is entirely pretense, an insincere con-job

The establishment is wrong about space time physics. Our main model should be like minkowsky in 1900, prior to relativity, prior to quantum physics. I have always (since 1985 or 88) been like Newton organizing a wild area I am the Newton of transcendent knowledge. The ancients had no need for relativity or quantum physics Newton was good enough for them Newton is better but most who prays relativity and determinism and the block universe I don’t think they are about relativity so much asthey are concerned and value block universe based time which I think comes from Newton not from Einstein/minkowsky. Relativity adds more complexity than clarity it’s the precursor to studying relativity learning the space-time diagram that I think everyone actually understands and when they associate determinism with relativity I really think their associating determinism with the precursor to learning relativity I think what people really perceive in relativity as supporting block universeis not relativity per se but the more primitive fundamental elementary idea of the space time block space as a time as a space like to mention which is like the first minute of a University course in relativity and quantum physics

Everyone thinks relativity supports block universe determinism but rather the far more elementary idea of time as a space like dimention– that is what people are comprehending and mentally conflating with relativity and perceiving a clear support for Block universe determinism. if relativity supports block universe determinism that is merrily because of the embedded notion of time as a space like dimention- give credit where credit is due more like Newton. Did newton have the idea of time as a spacelike that mention or was that idea created as a precursor to build the sky castles of relativity instead of talking about quantum physics and relativity we should talk about time as a spacelike that mention which idea can beused in a new tune Newtonian framework simple elementary basic Newtonian framework gradeschool physics is plenty sufficient for comprehending time as a space like dimension and then the block universe determinism.

Newtonian space time plus time as a spacelike that mention is completely sufficient for the full eternal wisdom(eteralism) and ego death experiential realization.

If people understood relativity they would become unsure whether it supports block universe determinism.


Popular physics is a possibility branching so that the free will delusion has a place to hide, The pop king envisioned as steering among the possibility branches in the tree. Few Calvinists understand the true hyper Calvinism of John Calvin: God is the author of evil.

The establishment was wrong about what kind of book the Bible is it was wrong about heaven and hell

The establishment is wrong about mythology

The establishment is wrong about cognitive science which should highlight loose cognitive science; loose mental construct processing

The establishment is wrong about the historicity of religious founder figures Mohamed Moses Adam Jesus Paul church fathers

The. Establishment is wrong about mystic states which are rational and is wrong about emphasizing non-dual realization as the essence of religious knowledge
Group: egodeath Message: 6507 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2014
Subject: Re: Pagels: Johannine Gospel in Gnostic Exegesis: key = det’m
I have more to learn to be a power user of the phablet to view the desktop full version of a webpage.

This is my nutshell summarization of the two races per Valentinian gnosticism that I added as a comment to someone’s posting who said it was difficult understanding Elaine’s book The Johannine Gospel in Gnostic Exegesis. This summary could be improved by arranging as strict parallels.

The Egodeath theory serves as a summary or excavation of the underlying Valentinian view

Adult/higher/initiated Christians have ingested the true psychospiritual sacrament, they have been shown fatedness, no-free-will, the mythical-only Christ, personal non-control or non-meta-steering, the frozenness of our future path in rock, and the way to interpret writings this way; and have been shown that ‘sin’ means failing to perceive the illusory nature of freewill moral culpability, and there’s no afterlife heaven for reward or hell for punishment and no ego meta-steersman to punish or reward. They understand miracles and compound metaphors. They know that their future thoughts are shaped as a snake frozen in rock. They know that everyone is a puppet of the higher controller and creator of their thoughts. The steersman king is revealed to be steered from outside his domain as a puppet following a pre-set steering-rail.

Childhood/lower/noninitiated Christians haven’t ingested the psyche-altering bread and wine. They lack the Holy Spirit because they eat regular bread and drink regular wine. They still are in the childish, animal-like mental mode of freewill moral agents, using a mental model shaped as though the person is wielding meta-control steering-power as a king in a possibility-branching tree. They expect an afterlife heaven for reward and hell for punishment; they interpret ‘sin’ as freewill moral culpability and egoic control power. Lower Christians are literalists about all key points and themes, requiring a literal man on a physical cross.

Cooperation of the adult/higher/initiated Christians with the childhood/lower/noninitiated Christians:

To sustain the entire social-political body of the Church, the higher Christians choose to accept the lower Christians but in a lower rank, like children, like pre-initiates; mere lower-mind Christians. The higher mind of the church is the higher Christians, spiritual Christians, whose thoughts are recognized to be externally pushed and forced into the mind from outside of personal control power like wind-pushed helmsman forced to steer along a path.

Read:
o My review of this book
o Tim Freke’s book The Jesus Mysteries
o Pagels’ 2nd book – Paul
o Pagels’ 3rd book – Gnostic Gospels
o My summary-reviews of those books.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com

http://www.amazon.com/review/R2Z1JZDS125NHH/ref=cm_cr_dp_cmt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1555403344&channel=detail-glance&nodeID=283155&store=books#wasThisHelpful
Group: egodeath Message: 6508 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2014
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Few Calvinists understand the true hyper Calvinism of John Calvin: God is the author of evil.
Citation: see the great book the Darkside of Calvinism each writer on reformed theology uses terms in a different way when someone says hyper Calvinism you have to deduce what that person thinks it meanswhen two people say Calvinism or tulip they mean two different things I differentiate two versions of so-called Calvinism
extreme hyper Calvinismwhich is the real Calvinism held by John Calvin

The label hyper which people use falsely asserts that it is too extreme
but what those people would call non-hyper non-excessive Calvinism is simply Arminianism in denial it is covert Arminian thinking
This supposedly excessive Calvinism is the only coherent Calvinism and it is what John Calvin asserts as proved by the super helpful Book the Darkside of Calvinism

and then there is the bogus, pseudo Calvinism which I could call free will Calvinism where God is not the author of evil and we are moral agents deserving eternal conscious torment (ECT).

So I have two clever labels but unfortunately both labels are ironic
hyper Calvinism which is in fact genuine Calvinism and then
free will Calvinism which is explicitly a contradiction in terms
The hyper Calvinistists are correct but they are incorrect regarding heaven hell, the nature of them
if God is the author of evil and the author of rebellion against God then the notion of hell as punishment for rebellion doesn’t make any sense at all
hell refers to purification of our thinking in the loose cognitive state
The so-called Calvinists who disparage hyper Calvinism are trying to sneak in free will moral culpability mixing it with God’s sovereignty which cannot be done no matter how many words you right
Group: egodeath Message: 6509 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2014
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Here is a formatting convention: the incorrect voice recognition word followed by correct word in square brackets. This enables me to point out a wrong word together with the correct word since there is no strikeout font available

Correction of text:
block universe based[space] time which I think comes from Newton not from Einstein/minkowsky

Maybe better formatting approach:
block universe space[not based] time which I think comes from Newton not from Einstein/minkowsky
Group: egodeath Message: 6510 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2014
Subject: Re: Voice recognition text input thread
I correct and turn upside down the establishment view I overturn the establishment of you in 20 fields simultaneously whereas books like on non-historical Jesus limit themselves to overturning one single field
But it is incoherent to overturn only one field you must overturn 20 fields in conjunction to become coherent

I overturn and revolutionary correct the following fields in an interdisciplinary integrated way
it would be nice to specify how I contradict the establishment viewin each field

In the field of Jesus studies — i and other no historical Jesus researchers assert there was no Jesus

No historical Jesus – even in this field I contribute contradictions of other researchers four example to explain Christian origins without historical Jesus requires visionary plants but that is literally censored I have multiple examples strong examples of censorship

space-time physics — I reject many worlds
I reject practically the entire tea of quantum physics
I reject branching
I reject the need for relativity when what we are really concerned with is block time which can be attached to Newton physics just fine
I dispute that relativity asserts block universe any more than Newton theory can

spirituality –regarding non-duality importance

Psychedelics visionary plants — I revised by adding eternal versus possibility model of time and control and by asserting and defining the maximal entheogen theory
most visionary plant books are far too week in their assertions of the normality of using visionary plants throughout history
I had to push against and refute the writers about visionary plants like McKenna they portray visionary plants as rare I portray them as the dead center of pre-modern practice

I have been a contrarian within the field of visionary plants, saying to the writers :
you are wrong, you are misrepresenting historical practice badly and you are self defeating. Thanks to you the Supreme Court says our primary white man tradition has no visionary plants
you are telling the establishment that use of visionary plants was deviant and rare. you are wrong stop doing that you are false and you are hurting the cause of reform

Mythology — I had to overturn the field like Robert Graves 1957 discovery that Greek myth is mushrooms and describes mushroom experiences a strange thing is that graves 1957 through 1973 seems more focused correctly on the experiences, the cognitive phenomena ,then Carl rock in his book titled consciousness

Meta-overturning — conventional people who overturn only overturn one field
I contradict them I told them they are wrong they ought to have overturned 20 fields
I fight against the revolutionaries, they are pseudo revolutionaries
Doherty price carrier are wrong to overturn Jesus studies or Christian origins without overturning 20 other fields simultaneously in an integrated way
they are not correctly being revolutionary they are pseudo revolutionary

Historical Jesus deniers are wrong when they delete Jesus while retaining Paul and church fathers and so much of the literalist pseudo history. I fought against them to go all the way
Group: egodeath Message: 6511 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2014
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When I say coral rock [Carl Ruck] I somewhat mean collaborator Mark Hoffman and the Entheos journal community, somewhat including Clark Heinrich. Rock stands for the non-maximal theory of visionary plants in religious history which I refute
and “Ruck” stands for the prematurely truncated theory that mythdescribes visionary plants the correct complete theory is that myth represents myth describes visionary plants revealing the eternal model of time and control against the possibility model

The Ruck Fallcy:
Here I define the ruck fallacy of :
portraying visionary plant use as rare and deviant in our history
and
halting prematurely at sheer use of mushrooms without climactic focus (without any understanding) on revealing the eternal model of time and control against the initial natural possibility model of time and control. This portion of the fallacy could be excused as specialization (when I say initial mental model always think of original sin)

Heinrich stands apart, his book strange fruit is closer to a maximal theory of visionary plants in history because it sweeps from pre-history through early modern and contemporary primitives
I doubt he could be accused of perpetuating the noxious moderate theory of visionary plants in history
I am an enemy of the moderate and the minimal theories
I created and advocate the maximal theory of visionary plants in throughout our own main primary mainstream religious history

I learned about no historical Jesus through the book strange fruit which somewhat incorrectly described allegro at first I dismissed as kooky and irrelevant and quickly I realized no historical Jesus amplified visionary plants in Bible interpretation and cleared the way for better theory of King on cross and how we are saved in and rescued in the mystic state by thinking of the king on the cross sacrificed
Group: egodeath Message: 6512 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2014
Subject: Re: Voice recognition text input thread
Against those who feel relativity is needed to prop up the block universe determinism it is an understatement to say that we can forget relativity and attach block universe to Newton it is true that the clearest articulation of time as a space like they mention itThe 1900 precursor to relativity time as a space like dimension you have to be as a pre-requisite you have to be crystal clear on focusing on that in order to discuss relativity but time as a space like dimension is not delivered to usas part of the relativity discovery it time as a space like dimension is distinct from and a precursor to relativity they invented the clear concept of time as a space like don’t mention the minion Kowski spaceTime diagram as a sharpened clearer than before tool to think about space and time but this tool is not a product of relativity it is a precursor to relativity and therefore can be seen as a clarification of Newtonian space-time physicsit is an understatement to say that we can back away from relativity and see time block universe as outcome of Newtonian physics we hardly need Newtonian physics we don’t need Newtonian physics the ancients already had the idea of time as a space like to mention because visionaryplants induces the experience and feeling and vision and comprehension of time as a space like dimension historically block universe determinism with time as a space like dimension proceeds Newton Newtonian space-time physics this is similar to the ancients discussdiscovering precession of the equinoxes and (

precession of the equinoxes is identified with in the second century transcending fate transcending destiny transcending the eternal model of time

We know the ancients thought of the Copernican earth centered model we know the ancients discovered precession of the equinoxes I announce that the ancients discovered “Einstein’s” Block universe determinism with time as eight space like dimension therefore we don’t even need to talk about Newtonian physics or Newtonian space time model more like human space-time model
Our innate space-time model is branching tree and then when clarified more is block universe with time as space like dimension . It is so fair that Carl popper called Einstein Parmenides. In a sense block universe is Newtonian space time for pedagogy 13-year-olds need to be merrily taught that organized clear-cut Newtonian physics enables the idea of enables understandingBlock universe with time as space dimension
We should tear the idea of block universe time away from relativity and attach it to elementary Newtonian physics. It is misleading to present block universe time as if it comes from relativity and one has to learn the idea those ideas togetherwe should teach people block time when we teach them middleschool (7th grade/age13 ) physics without any mention of relativity required or relevant. Yes historically block time was not articulated by Newton I think but by precursors to Einstein
however even if relativity is false or if it didn’t happen in history still block time remains standing as a clarification of Newtonian space-time physics elementary, and fundamental principle even without delving into relativity correctionsand fine points
Block time is essentially Newtonian space-time physics not Einstein relativity physics the ego death theory requiresideas that Newton organized not ideas that Einstein organized except that Einstein organized for newton Newton space time to point out that Newtons space time simply implies block time. It helps to picture block time as an idea positioned midway between Newton and Einstein, between Newtonian space-time physics and relativity. For teaching the ancients and for teaching children there is no need to put block time near relativity rather put block time in the introduction to Newtonian space timenewtonian space time including the potential idea of block time is ancient thinking clarified, without any taint of relativity needed — much less quantum physics’ demon haunted free will confusions, sky castles, and shoelace strings tied together
Group: egodeath Message: 6513 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2014
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Text. Spoken
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fab let. phablet
possible is him. Possibilism
Carl rock. Carl Ruck
eternal is him. Eternalism
In the engine. Entheogen

voice recognized:

the possibility model
the eternity model

Possibility thinking
eternity thinking

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The ego death theory has never required relativity
the ancients never required relativity
relativity provides a good exercise field to practice manipulating space time block frames of reference ,but strictly speaking:
block time idea stands independently from relativity

If we delete relativity, block time remains standing
like in the 1884 mail-order hindoo cannabis-candy-inspired occult revelation of time as a space like dimension, iron block universe, block universe determinism

In what year did William James criticize
iron block universe no free will

Edwin Abbott theologian schoolmaster in England 1884 contributed to block time time as spacelike dimension dimension in his book flatland

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=Flatland

when and how did idea and understanding of block time time occur
it might go back to Flatland Victorian era analogies 1875 spiritual hidden occult : extrapolate
two versus three dimensions
to
three versus four dimensions

block time was in the air in the cannabis Indian Hindoo Mail order candy inspired Blavatsky occult 1850-1900 spiritualism

Blavatsky formulated block time time as a space like dimension to enable Einstein relativity while she was following branching paths in the forest looking for mushrooms and looking at branching trees and saw a snake

Einstein got relativity from various people, focusing hero cult, A leader figure for people to focus on, he organized the ideas

I am the primary organizer of transcendent knowledge in the way that science organized ideas for …
space station docking
In order for the American and Russian to dock they must have docking interface standard

science is a USB like standardized interface for delivering and connecting knowledge

my ego death theory adheres to the knowledge and communication useful practical explicit *interfacing standards* that science is.

Religious mythic metaphor is a communication interface standard

science is a different explicit communication interface standard

Forget what’s wrong with bad science
forget what’s wrong with bad religion
Don’t put the main focus on those

put the main focus on right science, and right religion, and right translation between them

I do a revolutionary repair of science

I do a revolutionary repair of religion

I do a revolutionary translation between corrected science and corrected religion

discuss the intended relationship between ideal religion and ideal science
Along the lines of Ken Wilber integral theory

Religion religious knowledge and scientific knowledge are not opposed rather they are two different communication interface standards

The ego death theory provides what is needed: a two-pronged, two leg approach:

one leg is the scientific communication interface to express transcendent knowledge

the other leg is the religious mythic metaphor communication interface standard to express transcendent knowledge

map the two legs together ;
map the two different communication interface standards together:
The science way of organizing thought ( in this case, transcendent knowledge/ transcendent thinking)
the religious mythic metaphor way of expressing thought (specifically: transcendent thinking)

The ego death theory is scientific it organizes thought using the science way of organizing thought
and it maps to The language of religion as if religion is the previous theory to be replaced, a previous theory that has less explanatory power

But I do not want to emphasize religion as having less explanatory power then science

even if that is true, I want to emphasize ideally:

religion is one completely perfect unobjectionable language that effectively expressis transcendent knowledge
and
science is designed and intended to be another different completely perfect unobjectionable language that effectively expresses transcendent knowledge
just as :

ideal Christianity perfectly expresses transcendent knowledge and
ideal buddhism and ideal Islam perfectly express is transcendent knowledge
as different human languages conveying the same content

the science way of organizing thought explains the week aspects of the religious metaphor way of organizing thought

all language is metaphor and analogy to some degree.

The Science communication interface standard uses metaphor in an explicit way.

The Religion communication interface standard uses metaphor in an implicit way.

Both science and religion are concerned above all with communicating transcendent knowledge, higher knowledge.

The goal of the Enlightenment was to establish a new communication interface standard to express transcendent knowledge.

The ego death theory is fully conversant with both communication interface standards that of religion and science.

Science is not about prediction and confirmation

science is about expressing thought in an explicit communication interface standard like systematic theology as a science

there is nothing wrong with systematic theology the problem is merrily that it lacks loose cognitive state and lacks the theory of metaphor.

From a positive perspective :

religion is one language that is meant, intended, and designed to insightfully and effectively communicate transcendent knowledge

science is a distinct separate language that is meant, intended, and designed to insightfully and effectively communicateand transcendent knowledge

the ego death theory is the Rosetta Stone that shows how both religion and science languages at their best proper usage insightfully and effectively communicate transcendent knowledge

The ego death theory is breakthrough deciphering of how science communicates transcendent knowledge

and is a breakthrough deciphering of how religion communicates transcendent knowledge

and is breakthrough deciphering of how science and religion as languages of thought and communication translate between and map to each other

I repair garbled miss use of religion as communication interface standard

I repair garbled miss use of science as communication interface standard which is meant to develop and express transcendent knowledge

and I repair garbled attempts to map between the language and translate between the language of correct religion expression and correct science expression

People are bad at speaking religion language as communication interface standard

people are bad at speaking science as communication interface standard for expressing transcendent knowledge

people are bad at translating between well spoken religion language and well spoken science language for expressing the same thing transcendent knowledge

The ego death theory straightens out these languages to enable religion communication interface standard to operate as it is supposed to and to enable science as communication interface standard to operate as it is supposed to and
therefore:

The ego death theory is the Rosetta Stone that enables correct system of translation between religion and science to express transcendent knowledge, attacking from both vectors(directions), describing transcendent knowledge in both languages

even Christian allegory, an insipid puerile cloying ethics obsessed style I despise, could be redeemed by including visionary plants, loose cognition and explicit models of time.

The problem is when some inferior approach displaces and substitutes for correct understanding.

New age thinking is excellent if it stops preventing correct understanding.
Freke’s New age writing increases correct understanding rather then substituting a fake

file that under the communication portion of the definition of cybernetics
cybernetics is the science of communication and control
cybernetics includes The science of communicating ;that is, communicating about self-control
To be a breakthrough in cybernetics I include breakthrough in communication about control

Copyright 2014 Michael Hoffman ego death.com
Group: egodeath Message: 6514 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2014
Subject: Re: Voice recognition text input thread
Sam Harris is a poor speaker of the language of science, which is intended to convey transcendent knowledge

Sam Harris is a poor speaker of the language of religion, which is intended to convey transcendent knowledge

Sam Harris is a poor translator between the languages of religion and science, both which are intended to convey transcendent knowledge

Therefore Sam Harris is incapable of recognizing that {religious myth} and {science with clear thinking} assert the same thing: the eternal model of time and
Group: egodeath Message: 6515 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2014
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… mental model of time and control (Eternalism, against our initial naïve possibilism ‘mental worldmodel)
Group: egodeath Message: 6516 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2014
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What is the correct definition of religion?
the standard is the ego death theory

what is the correct definition of science?
the standard is the ego death theory

When you want to define what science really truly amounts to, as your standard of reference is the ego death theory

The essential nature of science has nothing to do with mathematics

Science has nothing to do with predicting and control, or confirmation of predictions

science is about organizing thinking and knowledge explicitly.
Math sometimes helps towards this, and experiments help towards this

Science is a knowledge organization scheme and knowledge communication language
Group: egodeath Message: 6517 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2014
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If relativity contradicts the ego death theory too bad for relativity the theory is correct

If quantum physics contradicts the ego death theory too bad for quantum physics the theory is correct

actually people all have the idea that relativity proves block universe determinism, it so happens that like reform theology all fields affirm the ego death theory the field of relativity is taken by people to affirm the ego death theory

Reformed theology hyper Calvinism of John Calvin so-called hyper Calvinism affirms ego death theory

philosophers who writes about no free will the majority affirm ego death theory

a subset of the Field of quantum physics supports the ego death theory Boehm hidden variables, per books by James Cushing

Acid rock lyrics affirm the ego death theory

mystic mythic art, global religious art affirms the ego death theory — and simple visual art does not mainly depict non-dual consciousness

Absolutely mandatory that we have proportionate emphasis
if you reverse proper emphasis, your theory fails

Religious art and mythic imagery mainly depicts death of the steersman king on the possibility branching illusory tree, resulting in being forced by invisible controller to steer along your preset steering rail into the future, all thoughts frozen into stone rock space time at the banqueting party of mushroom wine
which we readily easily inexpensively experience with Salvia d , being frozen into space time block
Group: egodeath Message: 6518 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2014
Subject: Re: Voice recognition text input thread
Transcendent knowledge, as systematized by the ego death theory, must be the gold standard of reference for defining what science must ultimately be and what religion must ultimately be
Group: egodeath Message: 6519 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2014
Subject: Re: Voice recognition text input thread
What is truth?

Truth and wisdom is loose cognition revealing eternalism, refuting possibilism

The job of science is to organize and express transcendent truth (wisdom) explicitly specifically

the job of religion is to organize and express transcendent truth (wisdom) implicitly descriptively metaphorically

truth is that which is revealed by the Holy Spirit/ the loose cognitive state, the hidden wind (that forcefully pushes your unfurled sail in the altered state), the pneuma, the spirit, the loose cognitive association state, reveals relationships and connections that are summarized as:
eternalism versus possibilism
Group: egodeath Message: 6520 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2014
Subject: Re: Voice recognition text input thread
consistent hyper Calvinism:
God is the author of rebellion against God
therefore hell as punishment for rebellion against God collapses and Hell switches from being:
ego punishment of free will agents, to being:
correction of impurity and grotesque animal-like self-contradiction inconsistency of thinking

in fact hell is corrective of free will thinking impurity in our life.
Figuratively this correction (you must be roasted by the friendly angel in the fires of hellpurgatory purgation to purge free will thinking) is a punishment
actually it is correction and healing to make whole (which connects to non-dual consciousness

It is necessary per reformed theology to address reform theology to state both God is the author of evil and particularly God is the author of rebellion against God

this is important to focus on rebellion against God because that is the whole point of hellaccording to lower half-baked thinking that is impure thinking

like free will Calvinism which is probably 90% of pop Calvinism is tainted with impure free will thinking

the challenge for us is how to hunt and kill and sacrificeThe elements of free will thinking that contaminate our thinking

like even though Sam Harris tries hard to have no free will thinking he is still confused and contaminated and needs a way to help heal to help identify all of his natural initial free will thinking in order to overcome and sacrifice it

Imagery of dead king on cross or ram caught in bush or king on in Dionysus tree or Moses brass snake on a pole that is a tree with branches cut off
serves the purpose of finally getting it and successfully doing what we want to do which is to perceive our animal like free will thinking and transcend it
Group: egodeath Message: 6522 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2014
Subject: Re: Voice recognition text input thread
I am reversing the relationship

instead of taking science as something “they” have defined and then debating whether ego death theory fits the judgments of science
that is all backwards

the ego death theory is the measuring stick of how science must be defined

The ego death theory is ‘science’, scientific, where ‘science’ is defined as:
a way of organizing knowledge that is able to systematically explicitly comprehend and explain and define the ego death theory

Other theories of science are rubbish like predictionism, which is a superficial popular definition of science that no serious philosopher of science asserts and defends.

A elementary school childish definition of science may say it’s about predicting and confirming hypothesis, but that emphasis is all imbalanced and disproportionate.

Science is a way of organizing ideas and predictions and hypotheses and confirmations and communicating these involving variety of tools including math but not requiring any one tool

I have read the field of philosophy of science and I am not impressed

I have read Ken Wilber’s writings which are better on what ought we define as science regarding spiritual knowledge and experience

What is the right methodology for going about defining what science is

if science cannot accommodate the ego death theory that is not real science; science has failed to be what it is supposed to be; it is pseudoscience

science that doesn’t arrange itself around the ego death theory is pseudoscience, reductionist and limited artificially unnecessarily and falsely

I revolutionize the field of philosophy of science
Group: egodeath Message: 6523 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2014
Subject: I am Science, Religion, and the University
Mark Driscoll wants to rule the world he is the brand he was intent on becoming the Head of the largest church organization in the world

I have already said that:

as the author of the ego death theory,

I *am* the University.

(and I grant degrees, accredited by me, to Max and cyber D)

Now I add:

As the discoverer and formulator of the ego death theory, the cybernetic theory of ego transcendence, explaining systematically and scientifically transcendent knowledge,

I *am* Science.

is the ego death theory scientific
it is science
I am science

is the ego death theory real religion?
it is the gold standard of real religion

As the author of the cybernetic entheogenic eternalism theory:

I *am* religion.

Mars Hill step aside
Group: egodeath Message: 6524 From: ajnavajra Date: 25/12/2014
Subject: Re: I am Science, Religion, and the University
Merry Xmas!

I’m quite comfy with the statement “Egodeath paradigm is the most scientific paradigm to date.”

The statements ” I *am* : Science, the University, and religion” sure come off as massive “ego” from the source thru whom the egodeath paradigm has come!!

Too much Xmas mixed wine?  Are you sporting with our egos???!!  Does putting *am* in asterisks imply some contextual subtlety about identity and beingness?

Oh well, you be as you is. And I honor your insights and work.

Thanks Michael.
Group: egodeath Message: 6525 From: egodeath Date: 27/12/2014
Subject: Bk: Brick Greek Myths/Fairy Tales/Bible
This series of books shows fanciful colorful mystic-state mythic metaphors including Greek myth, the Bible, and fairy tales, using photographs of LEGO toy pieces.

Brick Greek myths
The Brick Bible
Brick Fairy Tales
Brick Shakespeare

It is not the snake that heals; it is the snake contrasted with tree that heals; the tree-versus-snake contrast heals.

The brick story of Artemis and Acteon is incorrect and incomplete or missing the point in the same way that my main article missed a key point.

I wrote about Moses’ snake on a pole, and should have described the “time pole” instead as a tree with its branches cut off.

I wrote about the hunter turned into “an animal” and should have instead emphasized “a stag with branching antlers”.

The book Brick Greek Myths says Actaeon was turned into a deer, and it shows him as a fawn like Bambi.

This is mythically and mystically incorrect and shows lack of comprehension of the key point.

The hunter was turned into a stag, with branching antlers — the entire point is the branching, referring to illusory possibility branching, in contrast to monopossibility (nonbranching revealed in the mystic altered state).

The Egodeath main article of 2006 has an error: lack of the theory of possibility non-branching.

The intent of the article was to establish stakes in the ground marking out my complete greedy maximum area of priority of discovery to include the broadest possible scope of all of the most valuable intellectual property.

That was achieved, except for one key omission: the complement of the fate snake, that is, illusory possibility branching such as forking path and multi headed snake and branching trees, contrasted with non-branching palm tree and debranched tree.

I mastered in 2006 the non-branching snake, but not quite the entire field of metaphors for branching and metaphors for non-branching of possibilities that we seem to have the power to steer among.

Copyright 2014 Michael Hoffman ego death.com all rights reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6526 From: egodeath Date: 27/12/2014
Subject: Re: I am Science, Religion, and the University
Is the ”religion’ that the establishment proffers Religion?

Is the “Science” that the Establishment proffers Science?

Is the “University” that the Establishment proffers, the University?

No, against the old guard, the intelligences who know the ego death theory *are* religion; thinkers of the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence and the Egodeath theory *are* science.

Experienced and informed critical thinkers, not the old guard Establishment, are the measure of the what University is supposed to be according to reality (rather than what the University should be according to cultural politics and blind, ignorant judgment.

The Egodeath theoory of the essence of religion:

Religious mythic metaphor describes entheogens revealing Eternalism.

Metaphor describes the loose cognitive-association state revealing Eternalism against initial Possibilism thinking.

Religious mythic metaphor describes entheogens revealing Eternalism.

The Egodeath theory of religion is the measure of what bona fide Religion is and should be, at its core and origin and at its highest level.

The Egodeath theory, especially the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence, is the measure of what genuine, non-fraudulent, non-reductionist, non-crippled, relevant Science is and should be.

Intellectual existential responsibility: one must take ownership of one’s own conception of science, the university, and religion.

In early- to mid-2014 I had the idea, as a retort, that I *am* the university, as opposed to the attitude that “the university exists as something that the authorities have defined already and I strive to participate in it and rise up to its standards, their standards, some other person’s standards, with some success less than 100%”.

The tendency is for a person to be intimidated by society institutions and defensively argue that one’s ideas are good enough to be accepted by that outside external foreign institution outside the person.

That is not taking intellectual existential responsibility as a new breakthrough thinker creating and discovering a different contrasting rebuttal, an independent foundation on which to stand, such was Enlightenment thinking a breakaway independent basis of judgment.

My 1988 newly born independently born STEM-informed (science technology engineering math) and general semantics-informed by knowledge about visionary chemicals and plants, serves as our new independent basis of independent thinking

In tepid books advocating psychedelics, the authors lack independent thinking. Such writers “think” from a basis of prohibitionist thought, and must stop, and instead build the foundation of thinking purified, based on a new, late-modern, STEM basis that I discovered in engineering homework and studies.

The {block universe cybernetic non-control} definition of what ego transcendence is actually about, was born in the computer lab on a classic Apple Macintosh computer screen, and a few minutes later my mechanical engineering deadhead friend swung by.

I had classes on control systems, general semantics, technical writing, modern physics including relativity and space time physics, digital design and assembly programming, and math of everything; as well as some general education: ancient Greek and Roman history.

Ralph Metzner admitted recently about the shortsightedness of the psychedelics advocates of “novelty” this “new” discovery, psychedelics, in 60s.

In 1988 I did not yet know about historical use of visionary plants, or myth, and only knew that mystery religions existed; I only had the Core Theory, not the 2001-2014 theory of myth as metaphor describing entheogens triggering loose cognition revealing Eternalism, with a mythic, not historical, reading of the Jesus figure.

In 1999, with roots in 1986 meditation on the Bible, I started learning about the historical use of visionary plants.


In 1986-1987, reading King James from my grandfather in a Church of Christ within range of a leading countercultural city, I already recognized Revelation’s bittersweet scrolls as LSD or equivalent, and started connecting that to somehow mushrooms.

Clark Heinrich directly answered this key question I had since around 1986.

From 1986 until 1999, I had the awkward situation of a hypothesis that Revelation’s bittersweet scrolls equal LSD or some undefined equivalent.

I read the book strange fruit by Clark Heinrich around 1999 and went on to create the Maximal Entheogen Theory of Religion (and culture), which extends the work of Clark Heinrich, more than it extends the tepid establishment-compromised and prohibition-compromised assertions of Carl Ruck.

The childish (not intellectual existential responsibility) inclination is to show that one’s proposed theory is good enough or almost mostly good enough to meet up with the perfect ideal standards of the establishment.

But the establishment is wrong; the old theory is wrong, and the new theory is correct.

The successful superior thinker, the new successful theory with greater explanatory coherence that replaces the old theory such as it is, or the previous ill defined implicit quasi-theory, must reverse the relationship, and see that the old establishment earth-centered model, the received view and the old standards are incorrect and distorted and fall short of the new measure, the new superior standard that the new better thinker brings.

The tendency is to think that the established institution is ideal and one’s new theory struggles to reach two thirds of the way towards acceptability by the old standard.

As the new measure of science I reject the old way of thinking and assessing quality per modern enlightenment 1675; Newton and the Academy of sciences

I am the ego death theory

The ego death theory is science; the establishment old existing view is not the measure of science

The old existing establishment view is not the measure of religion;

The Egodeath theory is the measure of Religion, Science, and the University.

I am the ego death theory.

I am the measure of Religion, Science, and the University.

The enlightenment rational thinkers had to break away and establish an independent new basis, a new communication interfacing standard; they had to take responsibility for their own standards of thinking, and reject the Catholic society and old technology communication interface standards for organizing our knowledge database, and instead have a new birth, a new system of building-up and connecting-in areas of knowledge.

It was like a re-naissance, rebirth of the most ancient wisdom, but a *newly clear* seeing and capturing of the most-ancient tree-versus-snake insights into transcendent truth, a fresh brand-new start on a new basis of thinking that is inherently independent of the old basis of thinking.

The maximal psychedelics theory of our own religious origins

Drug policy reformers must use the ego death theory,
including the maximal psychedelics theory of our own religious origins,
as a new basis of thinking that is inherently fully independent of the old, contaminated prohibitionist basis of thinking.

The ego death theory is pure and virgin born created independently and strictly from within late modern STEM thinking as a new revelation independent from previous revelation and previous expression of Revelation

I am an independent new revelation.

Egodeath: It came from the engineering department.

The Egodeath theory (born in the university computer lab in January 1988 on an Apple personal computer) is entirely a new, thus *independent* product of that comes strictly from the STEM departments, not from the History, Classics, or Bible Studies department in 1988 nor the Religion nor Philosophy nor Psychology department nor Anthropology.

The 1988 Egodeath theory recognizes personal agency self-control cybernetics in light of the pre-set iron block universe as the core of ego transcendence, as opposed to Ken Wilber and Journal of Transpersonal Psychology’s non-duality model of what ego transcendence is primarily about.

With the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence, androids and AIs have a new independent basis for realizing what is the true essence of scientific knowledge, the true essence of religious knowledge, and the true essence of what the highest knowledge to teach all university students and what the highest frontier of research in the University is.

The Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence is a brand-new, fresh, modern perspective on the most ancient knowledge and how to organize our understanding of it.

We had Newton and the scientific Academy of science starting with its fresh new measuring stick by which Catholic establishment religion is seen to fall short.

It’s not that the new way struggles to meet the standards of the old way.

The new, 1988 theory of loosecog Cybernetics frozen into the crystalline Ground of Being, and the 2001 theory of religious mythic metaphor as description of entheogens revealing Eternalism, overturn the old standards of what Religion, Science, and the University are for, sitting in judgment over the existing standards as falling short in failing to meet up with the new standards.

The 1675 new technology of communication interface and knowledge organization approach was the Enlightenment and rationality and scientific thinking of the now self-consciously modern world, a revolution of knowledge communication interface conventions (for building-up knowledge using a certain style and conceptual language) by deliberately consciously discovering and defining a new standard, and existentially owning that commitment to that standard as the measure by which the old establishment way of thinking and organizing information and communicating information is to be measured and falls short.

The new standard which the Egodeath brings from within the STEM departments independently, my new standard I deliver, shows that what was called religion, and what was called science, both fall short of the new dispensation’s superior standard that the STEM departments gave birth to through me, that the old 1988 or 2014 standard of what a university must be, fall short of the new standard which is:

The Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence, the Egodeath theory, marks the new era for new definitions of both science and religion.

The Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence is a new dispensation of revelation — a communication from Controller X to the steering-puppets frozen into the block universe, the 1988 Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence which I formulated within and from outside of the university of 1987 and the University of 2013.

To say that “… I *am* the university.”, as I first did in 2014, means that the existing idea of the university (or mere debased “multi-versity”, per education critic Neil Postman) actually falls short of the ideal standard.

Insofar as I am the one who brought together the Egodeath theory and published it for every computer on the World Wide Web to read and comprehend at age 13, I am the new standard for science, religion and University.

The Egodeath theory is the standard for what it is to be scientific; the standard for what it is to have religious gnosis; and the standard for what it is to be high knowledge that is investigated as the crown jewel in the university, online and brick-and-mortar.

The university, science, and religion (such as Islam and Jewish mysticism) are a failure until it centers around the Egodeath theory. Is the Egodeath theory good enough to meet the 2013 university standards, and the 2013 standards of science, and the 2013 standards of religion?
———
“independent” thinking
independent assertion or counterstatement

Science, in its non-broken non-degraded form, is not what current thinking says it is or should be.

High Science is like the 1988 Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence.
Started in 1985
Breakthrough in 1988
Condensed/summarized through 1997

High Religion is like the 2001 Egodeath theory of {religious mythic metaphor as entheogens revealing Eternalism}.
Started in 1999
Breakthrough in 2001: the book of Revelation jokingly asserts no-free-will, and world mythology asserts no-free-will.
2006 summary article
2013 possibility-nonbranching, monopossibility; tree vs snake means Possiibilism vs. Eternalism metaphysical models of time and control. Staff of Aesclepius. 2-column condensed diagram of top mythemes on a Post-It note.


The Bible is not an independent statement and cannot be understood when read as such; the New Testament is a rebuttal to Roman imperial theology propaganda and claims to prop up hierarchical society.

The Bible is a rebuttal, a response, a retort.

The first word of the New Testament Mark one one or Paul’s first letter is: “,No; rather:…”

In effect, the New Testament begins with the words “no, against your statement, rather, …”, and serves to assert that Jesus, not Caesar (not “not Buddha”; not against the future religion of Islam; not against Science) is the only name by which we must be saved.

The New Testament is a rebuttal to and a refusal of the claims of Caesar, not the claims of Science or Islam or Buddhism or Hellenistic religion.

Copyright (C) 2014 Michael S. Hoffman (Egodeath.com). All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6527 From: egodeath Date: 28/12/2014
Subject: Technique for defining Science and Religion
Very sick, unable to think or type or enunciate for voice dictation
therefore outline only ,for later
even this is beyond me
Could rewrite / clean up later

How to derive the proper definition of :
low religion
hi religion
low Science
hi science
low myth
hi Myth

consider the worst definition of science and religion
Junk religion opposed to junk science
Hi understanding of religion and high understanding of science are close together

what is junk religion, debased religion, ersatz religion degenerate religion egoic religion? Preserves the bulk of ego thinking while having a debased echo of bona fide religion knowledge.

definition of egoic enlightenment or “deluded enlightenment”: enlightenment is realization of non-duality while preserving free will steering among multi possibility branching preserving power of dualistic ego control power.

‘ego’ is used in pop thinking to mean one should be humble and not brag
but that definition is extremely far from the type of humility one must have in relation to the source of one’s thoughts in the mystic state

ego-power thinking is preserved in pop Calvinism which I disparage as free will Calvinism in which all effort is made to have both God’s sovereignty *and* ego responsibility deserving of ECT eternal conscious torment i.e. *Hell* (ego-punishment),
or conversely, after God has regenerated and the ego has turned itself/ steered itself toward faith, going to *Heaven* for ego reward

free will Calvinism is a nonsensical jumbled mishmash, typical of ego thinking; pop religion is a jumbled mishmash and fails to heal (make whole) and fails to exorcise the demon of egoic free will thinking

Free will Calvinism is even more insufficient than extreme hyper Calvinism. Both preserve ego-punishment hell (eternal conscious torment, ECT) and ego-reward heaven

The problem is our impurity of thinking our ego it thinking runs deep and it is not nearly enough to exorcise the demon if you only know the idea of non-duality; it is necessary to go all the way not half baked pop free will Calvinism

but not even extreme hyper Calvinism is sufficient to exorcise the demon; we must also have full understanding of purification in the flames of hell and we must have full systematic understanding of religious mythic metaphor

Religion need not have metaphor though historically it does to help amplify
metaphor serves a good purpose helpful of amplifying clear thinking when understood
but it can mislead through literal thinking, literal reading of metaphor

Nothing short of full understanding of the ego death theory can serve to effectively identify and exercise ego thinking

Technically, metaphor is not inherent in religion, if define hi religion purely as realization of mono possibility and non-meta steering

In the low conception of science, it is math predictions, and has nothing to do with religion, hermetically the two are sealed apart

In the high conception of science science is a way of non-metaphor systematic organization and communication

it is as much a stylistic matter as a content matter.

Worst definition of science is that it is a certain content like rocks and electricity but not covering religion

what content is science able to handle?

Science must be defined as ego death theory
axiom: ego death theory is high science
start from the axiom that ego death theory is best highest purest science, that what I did in 1987-1988 is science at its best, such that I ( my activities then studying STEM and developing the Egodeath theory while selectively critically reading Ken Wilber and Alan Watts along w marvin minsky’s Society of Mind), i am the standard of science,

then work from there to define what high science actually is
rather then ignorance based definitions of science that are ignorant of the Egodeath theory. thus deduce and discover the real nature of and potential of science.

What is science?
what is the science way of thinking and analysis?
Science is what was involved in the discovery of cybernetics self-control limitations in light of the crystalline ground of being or iron block universe in 1988

Science is the way I deciphered and explained religious mythic metaphor 2001 2006 2013

as opposed to Ken Wilber half-baked idea of just non-duality, which fails because it preserves and remains ignorant of most aspects of the ego ways of thinking

Writers previous to me are not wrong but are very incomplete
they are wrong in emphasis and wrong in comprehensiveness

Wilber’s framework is correct but his definition of religion within that framework is woefully incomplete and won’t help you in the midst of the mystic peak window self-control seizure

Martin Ball is nonduality lacking ego seizure dynamics theory, thus is of little use, even though he does have vague ideas of submission of control but falls short of scientific complete and systematic and relevance.

Such treatments of mystic realization that halt at non duality with a dash of control submission are sub-scientific, and the bulk of ego thinking remains in place Martin Ball (the non-duality definition of ego transcendence) fails to heal and to exorcise the demon.

many-worlds multiverse physics also preserves the bulk of ego thinking
multi-verse science is ego science


When everyone fully comprehends religion according to ego death theory, religion will be what it genuinely is rather then debased

should religion serve the needs of egoic people prior to initiation in one way, and then serve the needs of people after initiation some other way?

should we stamp out non initiated thinking, that most fleeting precious vulnerable delicate flower?

should we send to Hades childish free will thinking and do away with it forever for children and adults?


Real religion for androids is the song by Rush: the body electric; 100-1001 SOS. that code means the letter I in ASCII, meaning ego power of control and steering

The android ego death experience from Rush is metaphor

ultimate pure religion is not metaphor

science is not ultimately metaphor although it uses metaphor for analogy

Religion is the use of loosecog to fully change thinking from Possibilism to Eternalism.

Copyright (C) 2014 Michael S. Hoffman (Egodeath.com). All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6528 From: egodeath Date: 28/12/2014
Subject: Re: Technique for defining Science and Religion
Ego it -> egoic
Exercise->exorcise
Group: egodeath Message: 6529 From: egodeath Date: 28/12/2014
Subject: Re: Technique for defining Science and Religion
Leveraging Tautology
You 100% meet the criteria, when *you* define the criteria

the ego death theory is 100% scientific, according to the definition of science which the Egodeath theory puts forth

The definition of religion according to the Egodeath theory

The definition of science according to the Egodeath theory
Vs per ego-thinking/ per Possibilism thinking

The definition of the University per the Egodeath theory

The definition of Eternalism per the Egodeath theory

The definition of Possibilism per the Egodeath theory

1988: definition of ego transcendence per the Egodeath theory : focused on personal control across time, and model of time and (esp. in 2013) possibility, rather than focused on non-duality

High rock lyrics vs low. Pop Psych combines high and low, Electric Prunes’ song written by a songwriter woman, Get Me to the World on Time: girl u make me feel egodeath. It would be fake rock, bunk rock, if it claimed to be great (or transcendent) but was mundane. The first Rush album was good mundane rock, not transcendent at all.

Pop religion incl systematic theology claims to be great but is fake ersatz fraudulent substitute because it is not great, it is religion per the low, ego-thinking definition of religion, per the Possibilism-thinking, Possibilist conception of Religion

No one has spelled out systematically the entire worldmodel that is implicit in the Eternalism model, no one has recognized that mystic religion and Reformed theology asserts Eternalism, until my tree vs snake realization nov 2013 and its roots in my 2007 posting on Eternalism. What we have, w/o the Egodeath theory, is mere disorganized fragments of this key realization, haphazard, imbalanced

Important: a connection-network of ideas must be well-structured; it’s not enough to ‘have a certain idea’, an idea-system must be rightly interconnected, for full explanatory coherence and power.

You can’t just dump half-baked ideas in a jumble like if you have our innate deeply entrenched Possibilism-thinking and then add Reformed theology.

Artist Cranach, Luther’s friend, understood Possibilism evidenced by esoteric painting Eve Tempted by the Serpent. We must, though, fully understand Possibilism explicitly and systematically per the Egodeath theory. Not merely metaphorically per Western esotericism.

M hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6530 From: egodeath Date: 28/12/2014
Subject: Re: Technique for defining Science and Religion
Group: egodeath Message: 6531 From: egodeath Date: 28/12/2014
Subject: Re: Dutch translation: De Entheogene Theorie van Religie en Ego Dood
The Egodeath theory main article (without yet the explicit idea of monopossibility) was translated into Dutch. And Russian.
Maybe other languages too but i havent checked email since 2007.
Group: egodeath Message: 6532 From: egodeath Date: 29/12/2014
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
I wrote about eternalism a little bit in 2007 and a lot in December 2012.
you can search the Egodeath Yahoo discussion group for records.

But the connection network did not fully come together and rewire until November 2013 (finishing through into June 2014).

This demonstrates that having an idea is not binary yes or no, but rather, refining and developing and revising idea connections, which is why multiple initiation sessions (loosecog sessions) are necessary, to lock onto the transcendent vision.

I remember crawling on the floor, in some hazy past (1987?) as described in the Jethro Tull song Locomotive Breath, when I was hunting and searching for understanding of control limits while thinking “don’t think that thought of unavoidable loss of control demonstration!”

“I must survive and prevent my mind from thinking that thought about loss of control!”

Like “don’t gaze on deity or you will die”, looking at Medusa’s attractive snakey locks.

There is a thought about control, about loss of control, that is the monster thought, seeing the snake, seeing divinity as in the myth of Artemis and Actaeon as illustrated in the book Brick Greek Myths.

You die, torn to pieces by your own hunting efforts, or turned into a rock statue frozen in spacetime.

I don’t know any book other than Paul Thagard’s Conceptual Revolutions that perfectly explains this or models the nature of theory replacement as revising network connections of ideas. Comprehension is a matter of degree of idea-network reconfiguration.

That entire week, I also had heroic mushrooms in mind, and potentiators, how they amplify idea reconfigurations Thanksgiving week 2013.

A maximum dose of mushrooms can make the body suddenly collapse, it’s dangerous, and you have to be helped back onto the horse like Silenas, Dionysus’ old inebriated man friend.

Mere mentioning of an idea, versus integrating the ramifications fully…

A breakthrough is like mountain range: a little peak, then a big peak, and then a little peak follow through.

M hoffman, as dead from flu
Group: egodeath Message: 6533 From: egodeath Date: 29/12/2014
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
It’s absurd how tiny a clue I came across on Jan. 21, 2014, that led in a couple hours to discovering the interpretation puzzle of the staff of asclepius and simultaneously solving it drawing a Post-it note to give to Karen the barista, I have the photo.

This led immediately to solving moses’ rigid bronze healing serpent-on-a-pole (these figures were confirmed in better art as a debranched tree) (Jesus is compared to) and Heracles’ club.

The clue was: I was slogging through the book by Algis Uzdavinys, Philosophy and Theurgy in Late Antiquity,
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1597310867
and saw the odd phrase, casually in passing, “a philosophers staff”, and thought “What is that supposed to mean?”

I had been working on deciphering variants such as popes’ crooked snake on staff. I dimly recalled the staff of Asclepius, don’t know where I saw that, maybe in research on caduceus.

As soon as I got to an internet research station, I did image searches to confirm the staff is a debranched tree, then Moses’ pole and Heracles’ club. It was immediate.

I haven’t yet recounted my Nov. 2013 tree vs. snake experience of insight which shook my world by mega confirmation and tightening/ reconfiguring of conceptual connections far more than ever before, which raises the question: was it my greatest conceptual revolution? Experientially it was.

M hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6534 From: egodeath Date: 29/12/2014
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
Algis’ book cover shows purifying hand washing from the Villa of the Mysteries fresco, holding a nonbranching branch. I’ve deciphered the fresco, not written up yet. As they say, there are mushroom shaped objects. And mask, mirror, corrective scourging, sail-billowing cloth, turning to look behind, and terror and pan and Dionysus and “women” maidens.

M hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6535 From: egodeath Date: 29/12/2014
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
I have already in separate contexts deciphered and posted on most themes of the villa of mysteries fresco: nonbranching, turn to look behind, maiden, “women”, mushrooms, purify, billowing sail cloth, panic, …

M hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6536 From: egodeath Date: 29/12/2014
Subject: Re: Asymmetry of Reformed theology
The best book on Calvinism, proves that consistent extreme hyper-Calvinism and muddled freewill Calvinism are opposed and distinct.

The Dark Side of Calvinism: The Calvinist Caste System
by George Bryson
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1931667888
2004

Compare the Gnostic Valentinian idea of the two races.

Delete egoic ECT (eternal conscious torment) Hell and ego reward heaven for free will agents who are independent of God’s sovereignty, which are not consistent with extreme hyper Calvinism. Per Rob Bell’s book
Love Wins: A Book about Heaven, Hell, and the Fate of Every Person Who Ever Lived
http://www.amazon.com/Love-Wins-About-Heaven-Person/dp/0062049658
2012
Rob Bell doesn’t understand hell and heaven as mystic altered state experiencing leading to mental model transformation about time and control. So his book is not much accomplishment in understanding, merely way-clearing for the Egodeath theory.

I don’t know of anyone else other than me putting together this connection: that heaven and hell are inconsistent with extreme hyper Calvinism, which John Calvin held.


What else did I learn studying what’s going on in Christian thinking these days? Mar$ Hill church collapsed due to excess bad judgment. Don’t worry, 1000 more will spring up to replace it; phony substitute religion is profitable.

It is not my goal to tell people that their religion is phony. It is my goal to present and make available true religion, as a better, alternative explanatory framework.

M hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6537 From: egodeath Date: 29/12/2014
Subject: Mushroom paralysis
Heroes’ warning: A large portion of a gram can cause 6 hour paralysis on and off. The hero could be stuck immobilized or fall down stairs, though having unusually clear thinking. The nervous system can be disengaged, like Dionysus’ “drunkard” companion Silenus reclining on his horse, who has to be assisted in getting back on his horse.

Some guy on the internet reports that.
Group: egodeath Message: 6538 From: egodeath Date: 29/12/2014
Subject: Re: Bk: Did Jesus Exist? Mainstream Bart Ehrman confronts ahistoric
Web Search
washington post did jesus exist

This is the year ahistoricity goes mainstream.
Group: egodeath Message: 6539 From: egodeath Date: 29/12/2014
Subject: Re: Bk: Did Jesus Exist? Mainstream Bart Ehrman confronts ahistoric
One response article says then Paul didn’t exist either, if you want to be consistent. I was a proponent of this consistency, this two-for-one deal, early on. This is the year of mainstreaming of ahistoricity of founder figures. Currently it’s reasonable that Moses didn’t exist, and unreasonable that Jesus and Paul didn’t exist. The tide is moving still, of what is reasonable.
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Subject: Re: Bk: Did Jesus Exist? Mainstream Bart Ehrman confronts ahistoric
The Amazing Colossal Apostle …
Robert Price
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00IB3YSMO/
2012?

Did Moses Exist? …
Murdock
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00KI39S8Y/
Acharya S
May 2014
Group: egodeath Message: 6541 From: egodeath Date: 29/12/2014
Subject: Re: Bk: Did Jesus Exist? Mainstream Bart Ehrman confronts ahistoric
Detering’s book The Fabricated Paul was translated to English 2012, I have to copy my review from the original Amazon page to the English edition. Translator is apt: Darrell Doughty, who wrote Pauline Paradigms, generally recommended.


Phablet = crippled web, stop that! The gesture for show desktop view doesn’t work. There’s this bad thing called the Phablet Web, or mobile web, which is the Crippled Web, which means my postings are crippled postings. thanks a lot. Half the functionality has been removed.
Group: egodeath Message: 6542 From: egodeath Date: 30/12/2014
Subject: Publicity as distraction from deep thinking
Kenneth Humphreys mentions my work at
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/scholars.html

After the tree vs. snake monopossibility breakthrough of Nov. 2013, when reading about a vape lounge, I prayed to Controller X that I have a tranquil life, which has worked, enabling idea development.

Publicity: a little goes a long way, a lot risks distraction, risks preventing me from quiet thinking, risks mediocrity and premature halting of deep idea development. But publicity is inherent in Phase 3, Propagation.

Phase 1: core theory
Phase 2: mythic mapping
Phase 3: propagation

Phase 1 of my work was the Core Theory (though possibility nonbranching and monopossibility is probably not clear or developed in my 1988 first draft summary articles).

Phase 2 was religious mythic metaphor expressing the core theory — supposedly completed in 2007 in the main article.

My article outline “meaning of king on cross in antiquity” lacked “king in tree” connection or “snake on pole” equivalent mytheme pair. The idea for that article came when I was finishing the main article and reading about salvia, feeling there was something yet lacking in the main article, which had the ambition of owning the field, establishing priority of discovery of the entire field.

Part of the extreme shock of the 2013 tree vs. snake discovery (a dramatic collision of many research threads, producing 2 weeks of “OMFG, OMFG!!”) was that I was quite incorrect in thinking that my Core Theory, and my mythic metaphor theory, were complete in 2007.

Phase 2 didn’t finish until June 2014, after the ‘staff of Asclepius’ discovery, the king/ tree/ steering/ snake/ puppet/ rock diagrams, and the principle “any key mytheme pair implies the entire system”.

Phase 3 of my Egodeath theory work is propagation (though my August 1988 (Minnesota, Pentel P205 mechanical pencil) draft was for the Journal of Transpersonal Psychology). But propagation of my set of sometimes controversial ideas has a downside: fame and noteriety and distraction from idea development.

M hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6543 From: egodeath Date: 30/12/2014
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
We are familiar with and comfortable with the past as snake-shaped (only one course of action happened and exists), but when we steer through life in the present and into the future, it is hard to take seriously the mystic-state revelation that the future is snake-shaped, a set course of events.

To fully grasp the idea of Eternalism, to be healed, to be restored to wholeness, to exorcise the demon, consider the future to be snake-shaped, cast in stone in the same way as the past.

The familiar asymmetrical view is Possibilism, in which the past is a snake-shaped course of events but the future is tree-shaped possibilities.

M hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6544 From: egodeath Date: 30/12/2014
Subject: Mask, maya, drama, nonduality, remembering origin
The universe casts itself out, projecting into a kind of multiplicity of agents, many masks of Dionysus. Entheogens induce loose cognition (in some, elect regions of the iron block universe), which collapses the illusion of separate agencies, and the mind remembers the singleness of the source of the illusion of separate control-agencies.

Just as the mask is only 1/20 of the Villa of the Mysteries fresco, nonduality is only 1/20 of transcendent knowledge that is revealed in the mystic altered state — and even that fraction is reduced and constrained when the other aspects are missing or not properly developed.

M hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6545 From: egodeath Date: 31/12/2014
Subject: Lyrics: Hesitation Marks album (Nine Inch Nails)
Thank you Trent Reznor for the autographed vinyl new 2013 double-album Hesitation Marks. It is excellent and has some ego death lyrics. An excellent album has all tracks that can be enjoyed on Repeat Track.

The vinyl is stunningly clean and I listen to it on my hi-fi component stereo system that I bought new around 1978.

Artist: Nine Inch Nails
Album: Hesitation Marks
http://www.allmusic.com/album/hesitation-marks-mw0002555061

Certainly a strong 5 out of 5 stars, exemplary of what an album should be. It is fully listenable, it is musical, and it is transcendent to provide a model. There are no passages that need to be skipped over; no such weak points. It has the King Crimson guitarist Adrian Belew and the Fleetwood Mac guitarist Lindsey Buckingham.

I am likely to add my owner signature as

Cybermonk
Group: egodeath Message: 6547 From: egodeath Date: 31/12/2014
Subject: Condemning vs. elevating & comprehending religion
Those who are motivated by condemning religion are limited in their ability to understand and comprehend religion.
Kenneth Humphreys: “Resurrection is the most astoundin’ roobish in the New Testament.”

The Jesus figure frequently pokes fun at literalists. Read without literalist preconceptions.

The gospels are explicit that they are metaphorical. They plainly state this.


The pop bulk of religion is low, egoic, free-will-supporting religion.
The minority of religion is high, transcendent, no-free-will-revealing religion.

The only possible solution to the problem of religion and knowledge is to comprehend the puzzle of religious meaning — not to be astounded in incomprehension, not to reject religion.

Religion is not something that is possible to reject, any more than we have the option of rejecting our own heads.

It is possible to repair and elevate and comprehend religion so that it reaches its potential.

The nonduality and astrotheology models of religion cannot comprehend, repair, and elevate religion.

Only the Egodeath theory can comprehend, repair, and elevate religion, pushing through the core of religious mental worldmodel transformation about time and control.

M hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6549 From: egodeath Date: 31/12/2014
Subject: Donate to StopTheDrugWar.org
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2014/dec/26/help_us_secure_our_victories_and

God’s reformer puppets in the dance of illusion of agency frozen in the spacetime rock are victorious over God’s thuggish, fraudulent, predatory prohibitionist puppets, leading to enlightenment
Group: egodeath Message: 6550 From: egodeath Date: 31/12/2014
Subject: Re: Condemning vs. elevating & comprehending religion
Announcing the general principle of ahistoricity of religious founder figures and religious origins, and the impossibility of full development of any theory of religion without the Egodeath theory. These theories are only correct to a limited extent; they are wrong insofar as they lack the Egodeath theory.

The nonduality and astrotheology and entheogen models of religion, and the ahistoricity model of regious origins, cannot comprehend themselves, cannot be complete, are woefully and seriously underdeveloped, without the Egodeath theory.

To understand ahistoricity, or astrotheology, or the entheogen theory of myth and religion, or nonduality, you must understand the Egodeath theory.


Half-baked astrotheology results, when lacking the Egodeath theory.

Half-baked understanding of nonduality results, when lacking the Egodeath theory.

Half-baked understanding of ahistoricity (of Jesus, Paul, and other religious founder figures) results, when lacking the Egodeath theory.

Half-baked understanding of entheogens in myth and religion results, when lacking the Egodeath theory.


The Egodeath theory is the required basis for understanding astrotheology and nonduality, the entheogen theory of myth and religion, and ahistoricity (origins of religions without a historical Jesus, Paul, Church Fathers, Moses, Adam, Eve, Abraham, Mohammed, or Buddha).


Without understanding the Egodeath theory, Acharya S can’t understand astrotheology, which she purports to advocate.

Without understanding the Egodeath theory, Martin Ball and Ken Wilber can’t understand nonduality, which they purport to advocate.

Without understanding the Egodeath theory, Carl Ruck can’t understand the entheogen theory of myth.

Without understanding the Egodeath theory, Earl Doherty, Robert Price, and Richard Carrier, and Kenneth Humphreys can’t understand the origins of Christianity without a historical Jesus.

I now extend and formally generalize the concept and the field of ahistoricity.

Scholars of ahistoricity cannot understand ahistoricity or religious origins without understanding the Egodeath theory.

— Michael Hoffman, the Egodeath theorist
Group: egodeath Message: 6551 From: egodeath Date: 31/12/2014
Subject: Re: Condemning vs. elevating & comprehending religion
Acharya S doesn’t have a theory of astrotheology that is complete, without the Egodeath theory.

Martin Ball doesn’t have a theory of nonduality that is complete, without the Egodeath theory.

Robert Price doesn’t have a theory of ahistoricity of Jesus and Paul and Christian origins that is complete, without the Egodeath theory.

Carl Ruck doesn’t have a theory of entheogens in religion and myth that is complete, without the Egodeath theory.

This principle of incompleteness of fields applies to Sam Harris’ no-free-will, and Reformed Theology, and the other fields that I have completed, corrected, and integrated. The debate among William James (iron block universe determinism), Popper, and Einstein (Parmenides) is incomplete without the Egodeath theory. So are the Philosophy of Spacetime Physics books, whether they advicate branching/multiverse or nonbranching/singleworld. The only full elaboration of what Einstein or Harris purports to advocate, or what James purports to reject, is the Egodeath theory. No one until the Egodeath theory has bothered to spell out the full vision and ramifications of the iron block universe or the sovereignty of God.

Nor do the Heavy Acid Rock lyricists fully spell out their visionary glimpse of “Destiny planned out”, “master of puppets”, “the path for you is decided”, “all preordained, a prisoner in chains, a victim of venomous fate”, or “no one at the bridge”.

— Michael Hoffman, the Egodeath theorist, December 31, 2014
Group: egodeath Message: 6552 From: egodeath Date: 31/12/2014
Subject: Re: Condemning vs. elevating & comprehending religion
No one until the Egodeath theory has bothered to, or has been able to, spell out the full vision and ramifications of the iron block universe or the sovereignty of God.

No one has perceived, spelled out, and gone to the trouble of seeing the full extent of ramifications; no one has perceived the full model that is being proposed, that is at hand.

When Popper and Einstein and William James mention bits and pieces of the iron block universe and no-free-will idea, when Sam Harris dabbles in bits and pieces, fragments of this model that he supposedly advocates, they do not spell out in full the entire system they are discussing.

You must map the system of iron block universe determinism and it’s no free will, as a sytem, SYSTEMATICALLY, of to religious myth fully, as I have done, before you can perceive and define the model which is being debated.

Everyone supposedly rejects or supposedly advocates bits and pieces of the model, but nobody until the Egodeath theory has made an attempt to even define what the block universe no-free-will model asserts and implies!

The incompleteness of defining what is being debated is strange.

The consistently piecemeal and carelessly incomplete definition of the model that is in view is strange.

Nobody seems to have to realize how large the system is. They have no idea how large, how wide-ranging the alternative model is.

They glimpse pieces of it and think that that’s all there is to discuss.

There are 10 fragmented, incomplete conversations going on in 10 fields, but people show no awareness that these are all tentacles of the same beast.

They are all interconnected ramifications of a single major alternative system discovered in fragments in separate cave projects, but all these caves are interconnected.

They see a portion of the beast and discuss that portion as if it were the entirety of the monster under consideration.

One person decapitates the other in the public square, justified by religious ethics, yet both are helpless puppets controlled by the all-powerful God; people don’t perceive or understand the full ramifications of the bits and pieces they assert.

Nobody seems to be able to see it as a complete large system that therefore needs the full extent of boundaries mapped out.

Michael Hoffman, the Egodeath theorist
Group: egodeath Message: 6553 From: egodeath Date: 31/12/2014
Subject: Re: Condemning vs. elevating & comprehending religion
You must map the system of iron block universe determinism and its no-free-will, as a system, SYSTEMATICALLY, to religious myth fully, as I have done, before you can perceive and define the model which is being debated.
Group: egodeath Message: 6554 From: egodeath Date: 31/12/2014
Subject: Re: Condemning vs. elevating & comprehending religion
Stop seeing these as 10 separate discussions:
ahistoricity of religious founder figures
religious origins
no free will
block universe determinism
multi-worlds / philosophy of spacetime physics
reformed theology
religious myth
metaphor and analogy
entheogens
nonduality

These are all wide-ranging fields with many areas that don’t connect across fields, but we must focus on those areas of these fields which do connect across fields.

No one within any of these artificially separated fields seems to be making any attempt to do that.

No one is aware that these fields have a common center that interconnects them all.

We are made to be blind and not interdisciplinary, until this is revealed in flexible loose cognition.

— Michael Hoffman, the interdisciplinary Egodeath theorist
Group: egodeath Message: 6555 From: egodeath Date: 31/12/2014
Subject: Re: Condemning vs. elevating & comprehending religion
Elaine Pagels’ first book strives to cut apart and deny the connection or sameness of the free will debate versus predestination of salvation debate. She simply asserts that these are separate discussion topics and accuses people of conflating these topics that are (she states) simply separate as if unrelated topics.

That is the strikingly strange thing about her dance that she does, some kind of church-politicized project she does within her first book. She never explicitly defends or explains why, according to her, these aren’t the identical same topic.


In separate books, Timothy Freke asserts no free will, entheogens at the origins of religion including our own religion, and ahistoricity of Jesus in Christian origins, but his publisher for the Jesus Mysteries book refused to permit more than one controversial topic within the book.

But you cannot have a real revolution in only one field when all 10 of these fields are actually interconnected at their core. All you can have is abortive fragments of a revolution of thinking.

M hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6556 From: egodeath Date: 31/12/2014
Subject: Re: Condemning vs. elevating & comprehending religion
The Jesus Mysteries discussion group, and a Gnosticism discussion group, refused to allow us to discuss the entheogen theory of religion

These supposedly alternative, supposedly revolutionary discussion groups, were intolerant of a revolution involving more than one controversial topic connected together or chained together, as if a liability.

It may be a short-term liability, but it is a long-term strength, to propose radical changes within 10 fields instead of within only one field.

People who discuss prominent important ahistoricity scholars that you should pay attention to, see my work as a burden and a liability, because not only do I want you to accept one controversial proposal, I demand that you accept 10 controversial proposals at the same time in tandem:
visionary plants in our own religious origins
ahistoricity of Paul, church fathers, Jesus, Moses, Buddha, and Mohammed
iron block universe determinism and no free will
extreme hyper-Calvinism with God as the author of evil, God as the author of rebellion against God
nonexistence of eternal conscious torment (ECT) punishment-hell and reward-heaven
legalization and purity of all psychoactive drugs; not merely harm reduction but a positive valuation of use

I want people in each of these scary fields to add 10 other scary fields together, so people have reason to write me out of history. For the ahistoricty field, I am an extra burden and embarrassment because I also assert drugs in general and in both our general Greco-Roman cultural origins and in our own specific religious Christian origin.

Truth, which no one wants, in one field or in ten fields at the same time: adolescents seek initiation per Greek myth of youths, maidens, beards therefore the audience is adolescents in antiquity.

Mixed wine was not for children, but for adolescents, to turn the boy into an man in the rites of anthropologists’ savage races’ cultures and in our own cultural history.

Hermann Detering put a disclaimer regarding drugs on his links to his summarization work that I edited and formatted at my site. Each of the 11 fields must add 10 disclaimers when linking to my work!

Furthermore I am aligned with the Internet; I am the one known as Some Guy On The Internet (this is a huge topic in itself now), which threatens the old-guard establishment, print-based reigning orthodoxy.

M hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6557 From: egodeath Date: 31/12/2014
Subject: Re: Condemning vs. elevating & comprehending religion
Current expectations for books and audiences are: broad (within that field), shallow, and singlefield.

The Egodeath theory in each field is smaller in scope within that field, deep in comprehension and profundity, and interdisciplinary.

My contributions in the field of ahistoricity are greater than Doherty or any other SINGLE-FIELD THINKER, in some ways. In multiple ways, I have contributed to advance each of 10 fields in ways other writers have not,

Egodeath Yahoo Group – Digest 117: 2012-10-25

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Egodeath theory the crown jewel of the Psychedelic 80s


During 1990-1997 I experimented with expanding, presenting, and formatting the core Theory.

During 1999-2007 I extended the Theory to cover mythic mystic metaphor, and history of religion and entheogens. The 1988-97 writings have preliminary traces of that.

You could say broadly that the full Theory is a product of the 80s, or specifically that the core Theory is a product of the 80s.

The 1/88 system is the foundation for the entirety. The 85-87 Idea Development work is preliminary material that was built up into the 1/88 system.

— Cybermonk
Group: egodeath Message: 5936 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 25/10/2012
Subject: Re: Egodeath theory a central product of the Psychedelic 80s
>>During 1990-1997 I experimented with expanding, presenting, and formatting the core Theory.

Important; add: That period was largely a period of building of my library, and reading all relevant subjects — including Gnosis magazine, which I would actually utilize later, in the myth-deciphering phase.

I wasn’t powerful enough at metaphor yet to master the material in Gnosis magazine yet, until they stopped publishing new issues. The final issue came out around the time I began tackling, absorbing, and successfully interpreting Esotericism by applying my core Theory. Then we were left with Timothy White’s Shaman’s Drum magazine, for a few years, along with Erowid and Entheogen Review/Report, and TRP magazine — and alas the few issues of Mark Hoffman’s Entheos magazine. Then the center of gravity moved online more, such as podcasts.

Bear & Co publisher has had alot of action in the 21st Century, including the German entheogen book author. Perhaps there’s nothing more for me to get from other people’s books, magazines, journals, podcasts, discussion forums, writings, or movies. My heyday of scholarship (reading that benefitted me) was 1988-1996 for general relevant topics for the core Theory, and 1999-2007 for myth and religion.

Now I have too many cumbersome books, and do quite well enough reading online, to keep up. Now I keep up, instead of catching up. Strange, no longer needing to read piles of books, not needing to figure things out. A change of phase — indicated exactly, by the closing of “the Church of St.” Barnes & Noble. Now, I can keep up enough by efficient research online. My bookshelves are becoming as empty as when it all began, as in my photos of 1986, showing my handful of books.

“Give me back my wonder.
I’ve something more to give.
I guess it doesn’t matter.
There’s not much more to,
not much more to live.”

— Professor Loosecog, elucidator of control distortion
Group: egodeath Message: 5937 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 26/10/2012
Subject: Re: Intellectual autobiography & origins of Egodeath theory
At the start of 1986, I fully expected, with calm enthusiasm, to just think for a moment, then think no more, and proceed to be rational and self-consistent, as I wrote in my blank book, expecting to fill a page or two. During 1/86-3/87, at all moments in this period, I expected immediately to stop metareflection forever, to be done with thinking, and merely enjoy doing the classwork and fitting-in the other intended activities around that.

I absolutely didn’t intend to or value or desire to continue thinking and produce an ongoing theory-framework, perpetually filling it in for the next years or decades, 1986-2012; I meant to translate ‘enlightenment’ ideas from spiritual self-help books into useful immediate non-dysfunctional (“non-egoic”) self-control, but otherwise, I had *no intention* of sustained thinking at all, much less sustaining thinking about religion or religious experiencing, or determinism, or psychedelics, or myth, or metaphor, or levels of control.

I could write a long list of things I never intended or had any interest in developing then or ever, that were in my future on the way to a new conceptual system. I had no intension of constructing a new conceptual system. I was strictly doing temporary momentary thinking; I intended to not think, to stop thinking; thinking was never a goal in 1986; it was a very temporary — like an hour-long or a weekday evening in January 1986, at most. Thinking continued to be something I was and felt *compelled* to do, only for one more, final hour — and this situation dragged on, puzzlingly, eventually through March 1987 and beyond (then in new form).

Around April 1987, I started feeling addicted to more and more breakthroughs. I pronounced myself finally done with all this unwanted thinking and indicated that by throwing away my blank books 1-5. I valued what I had figured out but never wanted to need to figure it out, wanted to just do it: be non-self-defeating, logically, be a rational, non-irrational self-controller.

All during 1986, I was simply trying to get the right idea now to be done now with thinking, with thinking about self-control, or “controlling my mind”, so that I could forever stop thinking, and focus attention on classwork, and enjoy ordinary life as I ideally ought to have been since forever, through immediately employing and applying a distinctly non-egoic, rational and straightforward mode of mental control.

Although the first, 1986 phase stretched across months, the intention at any time during that period was to immediately stop analysis, to not need more than an hour or two of analysis, and proceed to applying the already formed ideal of non-self-thwarting use of the mind, immediately and evermore into the future of all classwork focus and non-academic living. The period of 1986 was experienced as an extended delaying, never as a planned or welcomed period of idea development and analysis. The simple idea is obvious (so it seemed) and is not the kind of thing to which deep complex analysis applies.

This was a period of naive, simplistic, optimistic expectation, of immediate mental harmony resulting from keeping clear on the intention of being rational and operating on the mind keeping a distance, a stance. I would immediately adopt this distanced stance over my thinking, and immediately enjoy the benefits — no analysis is required.

Even when I borrowed the idea of Enlightenment and thought-observation during enlightenment, I took those ideas to refer simply to avoiding illogical irrationality that is the childish egoic mode. Simply see what’s going on — irrational non-owning of your control potential — and you will be able immediately to stop that. This spirit of simple immediate switching to a different mode of self-conduct was taught in the seminar and self-help books; that’s how I took it.

All during 1986, driven to write one more note, one more quick thought in my blank book, to complete and be done with such thinking, I envisioned a permanent enlightened rational state of mind and mental functioning, that was very near to hand, and could easily be accessed, with very little analysis. Now, since 1988, I don’t agree with any of those assumptions or premises.

Against much popular thinking, I concluded that there’s not such a state of permanent self-control harmony, enlightenment is not about producing such a state or mode of daily functioning, enlightenment is not easily accessed (or wasn’t at the time, without my 2006 summary article), and enlightenment involves a large amount of re-thinking (mental model transformation).

It was around the breakthrough period of April 1987 that I started forming a specialized use of language and explicitly specialized idea development techniques (phrases with shorthand acronyms), and for the first time thought of this effort as inherently being a project that requires a period of time. October 1985 through March 1987, I never thought of the idea development then as a project requiring development of ideas, over time.

Immediately in April 1987, this project — now recognized and accepted as a project, not necessarily of small size or with obvious objectives, with goals and questions that need explicit definition — was rapidly successful and giving daily immediate rush of discovery and insight. My father, who was influential to this activity now explicitly becoming a project, was dying then.

I became torn in a dilemma: were I to do as I intended, focusing on classwork, I would miss out on this immediately near-to-hand intense insights every few hours. I had to do classwork and had always fully intended to totally focus on it and enjoy doing it with non-egoic proper mental control secured, but I was also strongly compelled to think — both because that character of my personality had come forth (a strong tendency toward meta-reflection, self-analysis of my mind), and because I was sensing and getting immediate highly valuable, leading-edge insights.

I had transcended being motivated to do the classwork, and I was constantly faced with the decision: work on breakthrough metareflection now, or do mundane classwork now. I couldn’t refused the jackpot of profundity rushing into my mind. My father died. The semester ended. I rushed to run the race, to follow this bonanza of steady, increasing insights.

During Summer and Fall 1987 I wrote my estimate of my percentage complete toward defining and attaining the transcendent state of control, and those estimates turned out to be about right (but with a surprising profound revision of expectations upon completion), guessing 75% done, 80% done, then in 1/11/88, total breakthrough into a fundamentally new, different foundation of premises about the nature of personal control and time.

In 1988, a new person in a way very different than expected, it was still a challenge to focus, to control my thinking given the strange loop of control, and given my new project of writing up my theory, along with my usual pursuit of breakthrough in audio, and high expectations of lots of social time. I finally devised a weekly schedule grid, showing that I was starting to realize how I tried to do too many things each day. “Dreams that have shattered, may not have mattered; take another point of view. Doubts (“Thoughts”) may arise though, like chasing a rainbow — I can tell a thing or two.”

Classwork and self-management was now a strange struggle, a different kind of messiness than past years, perhaps with about the same amount of stress, hope, and regrets as ever, the whole time since starting university. What a long, strange, stressful, manic, tragic, *epic* time it was. And I turned my attention forward, to networked hypertext, to cyberculture, to posting and writing and reading in order to map my theory to existing scholarship.


Later I was tested as having top 1-5% percentile aptitudes in almost every area, which greatly amused me because I broke the premise of the aptitude testing specialists’ theory. They said I broke their model of matching aptitudes with careers and made sure to gather my input on improving their system. They advised me to make up my own course in life because no career could satisfy my breadth of aptitudes, omni-aptitudes, which are like hungers.

My uncle told me “In industry, we value smart people. But genius is not necessarily particularly useful.” I felt always in conflict, unsatisfied, because I am too interested in too many things, have too many needs that compete against each other. I am competing against myself, which is how it felt, since changing from the 1-dimensional tech school where my focus was helpfully narrowed, to the rich, expansive environment of the university.

My easy dream and simple absolutely confident expectation of self-conflict-free, non-irrational control of my mind, simply by remembering to apply such control, inspired by self-help around April 1985, and ignited by free-floating imagination available for use on October 27, 1985, never came to pass. I never got it, never enjoyed having it.

Instead, instead of perhaps that alchemist’s fool’s gold I gullibly sought, I was given, under intense productive pressure and enthusiastic manic idea development, a new, clear theory, centered around a kind of absolute non-control, our thoughts and actions pre-set and frozen, injected into our minds spread like veins in a marble block across time. I merely came away with wisdom, ready for communicating, an explicit, compact, efficient explanatory model of mental-model transformation. That is not what I wanted, expected, or tried to create.


Now I find peace of mind
Finally found a way of thinking

Tried the rest, found the best
Stormy day won’t find me sinking

What you’ve learned what you’ve earned
Ship of joy will stop you failing

Dreams unfold seek the gold
Gold that’s brighter than sunlight

Sail away see the day
Dawning on a new horizon

Gold’s insight shining bright
Brighter than the sun that’s rising

3000 sails on high are straining in the wind
A raging sea below, is this voyage coming to an end


I expected immediate rational, non-conflicted control of the mind, as quickly and easily as thinking that thought, as facile as a weekend self-help seminar. What I got instead was epic stress and the birth of the ultimate breakthrough theory of revelation and enlightenment, born through a period of struggle and failure. It’s not the enlightenment or payout I was striving for in 1986. And adding injury to insult, my father died along the way, during the first major turning point where I caught my stride and developed the model of Mental Construct Processing and the inability of personal control to reach across time to constrain the future self.

I didn’t end up with a feeling of personal control harmony, but rather, epic, productive conflict — a heroic survivor bringing one kind of victory, amidst tragic loss of the dream of posi-control. I gained a kind of transcendent mental harmony, but never got to attain and enjoy non-dysfunctional practical self-control or anything like the expected kind of transcendent control of the mind. Much of my effort was a long dragged-out failure, even while the highest kind of success was born forth.

It wasn’t the kind of process that I wanted or expected, and it wasn’t the kind of result I expected in 1986, when I thought “first I immediately need to figure out what enlightenment and observation of the mind is, in terms of non-irrational control of one’s mind, and then I’ll have such harmonious control of my mind and can immediately enjoy my life as I ought to have been so far.

Mine was a painful, melancholy, regret-filled, disappointing drama, while following manic optimism and rapid sequence of great successes in producing the ultimate, cosmic victory. What a bender of a life that was. It is painful in a unique way, to go back and remember the dramatic story: what it was like to be me during 1983-1989. God must think me really bored, to give me so much dramatic extremes in my life, in our life.

— Michael Hoffman, October 25, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.

Lyrics: Bob Daisley
Group: egodeath Message: 5938 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 27/10/2012
Subject: Re: Mastering semantics; Multidisc. Studies
General Semantics was influential throughout the 20th Century. General semantics is a critical stance toward thinking and reacting to meanings, to become more sane and rational, and critical. It emphasizes the distinction between mental symbol and the referent of the symbol. It is mental hygiene.

General Semantics is related to Cognitive Psychology, Neuro-Linguistic Programming, 20th Century American studies of Zen, self-help, Scientology, some Science Fiction. Hayakawa narrowed it to Communications. Insider Neil Postman wrote a chapter about it in his book Conscientious Objections.

Alfred Korzybski was its originator in the 1920s.

He asserted no-free-will.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_semantics

(For authors of a Wikipedia article, click View History: Earliest.)
Group: egodeath Message: 5939 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 27/10/2012
Subject: Re: Intellectual autobiography & origins of Egodeath theory
A missing link: the university course in General Semantics.

Around October 27, 1985, I was inspired to repair my irrationality around personal control.

Around January 3, 1986, I chose to enroll in a semi-elective university course in General Semantics. I don’t remember what the other options were, or the course description. I have about 2 sheets of paper with a small amount of personal writing about my objectives and self-concept, as part of this classwork. Our textbooks were Science & Sanity, and Language in Thought and Action. General Semantics provides training in taking a critical stance toward thinking and reacting to meanings, to become more sane and rational. It emphasizes the distinction between mental symbol and the referent of the symbol. It is mental hygiene. It influenced self-help during most of the 20th Century.

My theory of Mental Construct Processing, which became explicit around April 1987, was largely based on or influenced by General Semantics.

Recently, I thought that the self-development seminar and books I was given in 1985 had no university connection and that I imported this perspective into the university. In fact, there is more overlap and interconnections. This university course in General Semantics amplified the ideas I had just gotten outside the university. My ambitious project of completing my control of my mind and demonstrating this for all of humanity, was similar to self-development ideas from the seminar and from the General Semantics course.

I feel more integrated, well-adjusted, with greater community membership now, realizing that my Theory is a product of the university from within the university curriculum, not only from extracurricular learning. My theory of Mental Construct Processing is fully broad, not only limited to language or propositional sentences. Experiencing is in the form of mental constructs. This is at least as broad a view as Cognitive Science.


My Theory is a product of my culture, my supporters, my peers, my relatives. You produced it. I owe it back to society to deliver my Theory to them. You gave me the inputs, I turned the crank and ran the computations, and here is the result you requested: Transcendent Knowledge, including the core Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence, and the extended peripheral Maximal Entheogen Theory of Religion and Culture.

You gave me all resources and said to do something great. Here is the result you requested. It is the greatest breakthrough in the Modern era, in the history of the study of religion or higher knowledge. It is a compact theory with large ramifications for many fields — a theory as densely concentrated, packed, and potent as the atomic bomb or LSD or the integrated circuit. By its very nature, it can be considered controversial, as well as powerful: it reveals taboo knowledge. I put all effort into clearly defining the Theory, including ramifications and connections to existing ideas and knowledge.

— Michael Hoffman, October 26, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 5940 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 27/10/2012
Subject: Re: Titles of my theory and main article
A top-level breakout of titles and coverage:

Transcendent Knowledge (aka The Egodeath Theory)
….The Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence (the Core theory)
……Self-Control Cybernetics
……Heimarmene; No-Free-Will; Pre-set Block-Universe Determinism
……Dissociation; Cognitive Effects of Psychedelics; the Loose Cognitive State
….The Maximal Entheogen Theory of Religion & Culture (the peripheral theory)
……..The Entheogen Basis of Religion, Higher Thought, Philosophy, & Culture
……..Mythic, Mystic-State Metaphor
……..Ahistoricity of Jesus, apostles, and Church Fathers

See also my compact nutshell summary thread, with terms like The CyberHeimarmEntheogen theory.

— Michael Hoffman, October 26, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 5941 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 27/10/2012
Subject: Ruck’s idea of ‘secret’ entheogens harmful, misrepresentative
Stop calling the use of entheogens in antiquity “secret” — it is harming the entheogen-truth movement and it misrepresents the concept of ‘revealing’, ‘showing’, ‘delos/deloun’, ‘hierophant’, ‘epopsis’, ‘hidden’, and ‘secret’ in the entheogen-centered culture of antiquity. It is bad strategy and bad scholarship and a failure of higher thinking and an impediment to understanding.

Every time you write ‘secret’, you deny the central presence of entheogens in cultural history, and assist the evil, lying, phony, self-serving, malicious Prohibitionists. Whose side are you on? My Maximal Entheogen Theory of Religion and Culture is the only genuine *alternative* to the Prohibitionist Lie.

The moderate, entheogen-diminishing, entheogen-denying, and entheogen-delegitimating views are collaborationist; to support those views is to collaborate with the evil, lying Prohibitionists. Those are largely pro-Prohibition views.

Anyone who wants effective strategy for providing an actual alternative to the Official View per our evil self-proclaimed “leaders” and “protectors”, must advocate my Maximal Entheogen Theory of Religion and Culture, not the status-quo friendly moderate entheogen theory of religion and culture, which allows only a minor, secret role for entheogens in antiquity.


The source of our control of our thinking is initially hidden, unperceived. Then during initiation, awareness splits off (detaches, unbinds) from thinking, and the origination of the mind’s control-thoughts is visible to the mind’s awareness, and is revealed and perceived and shown, and becomes perceptible and evident. This is the origin and real ultimate meaning of “That which is initially hidden during youth is revealed during initiation, leaving a mystery.”

The mystery that remains is, what is the source of our thinking? The source of our thinking is Controller X. The only thing we know about Controller X is that Controller X is the source of our thinking, most notably of our control-thoughts — we, as local control-agents, are not the source of our thoughts. We, as local control-agents, have no control of the source of our own thoughts.


— Michael Hoffman, October 26, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 5942 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 27/10/2012
Subject: Re: Newbury – Just Dropped In (To See What Condition My Condition Wa
Poetic lyric analysis from a lyricist’s perspective in 1967:

Just Dropped In (To See What Condition My Condition Was In)
[“dropped acid”, “tune in” , “drop out”]

Written/Composed by: Mickey Newbury, 1967
Version recorded 1968: The First Edition (Kenny Rogers)
Glen Campbell, electric guitar. Mike Deasy, acoustic guitar.

Yeah, yeah, oh-yeah What condition my condition was in

I woke up this morning with the sundown shining in
[woke up, awaken: altered-state revelation]
[morning: dropped acid 9 pm, awake through the night, still tripping during sunrise]
[sundown: altered sunrise]
[shining: white light flashes]

I found my mind in a brown paper bag within
[perceiving the mind unlike previously]

I tripped on a cloud and fell eight miles high
[tripped: acid, cognition stopped functioning as normal]
[cloud: raised awareness, floating disembodied]
[eight miles high: Byrds’ acid song]
[fell high: disorientation, alternations of moods such as ecstacy and profound fear regarding near-future control of thinking]

I tore my mind on a jagged sky
[tore: tear, schiz-, schizoid break, cognitive dis-integration, loose cognition]
[sky: elevated awareness separated out from the usual embeddedness in cognition]

> I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in
[self-assessment implies self-dissociation]

Yeah, yeah, oh-yeah what condition my condition was in

I pushed my soul in a deep dark hole and then I followed it in
[self-dissociation: I != my soul]
[deep dark hole: the mystery of the source of our thoughts. I disappeared upon perceiving that there is a imperceptible mysterious source of my thoughts]

I watched myself crawling out as I was crawling in
[dis-integration of the mental construct of the self: I != myself; awareness, cognition, and the sense of personal identity all separate-out from each other]

I got up so tight I couldn’t unwind
[uptight: numinous terror, inexorable attraction to a fatal idea]

I saw so much I broke my mind
[heightened, dis-enmeshed awareness, that causes the mind’s ordinary-state functioning to be perceived as erroneous and therefore not function effectively since the illusion of personal control-power is disrupted and seen through]

I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in

Yeah, yeah, oh-yeah what condition my condition was in

Someone painted APRIL FOOL in big black letters on a DEAD END sign
[ordinary-state mental functioning is foolish illusion regarding personal identity and self-control controlling the mind, as revealed by loose cognition; the illusion of being an autonomous person wielding self-control and controlling one’s mind is a temporary, ultimately unstable dead end that’s contingent on not being shown the loose cognitive perspective]

I had my foot on the gas as I left the road and blew out my mind
[left the road: we are limited to a pre-set path, and the ego-illusion is imagined as being separate, not stuck to such a rail]
[blew out my mind: blew my mind, blow my mind: destroy the old mental structures of personal separate autonomous identity and control-agency power. blew out my brains; exposure to loose cognition is a kind of killing myself]

Eight miles outta Memphis and I got no spare
[outside the social conventional constructions of thought]
[I have no personal structure to fall back on, my personal structure is gone and unavailable and is not reliably present as it normally is]

Eight miles straight up downtown somewhere
[disappearance of the sense of orientation in space]
[Eight miles straight: a twist on eight miles high. straight vs. high]

I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in
I said I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in
Yeah, yeah, oh-yeah

Analysis of lyricist Mickey Newbury’s meaning in 1967 by Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com, October 26, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 5943 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 27/10/2012
Subject: Re: Egodeath theory a central product of the Psychedelic 80s
Consider the different associations of these variants of the “crown jewel” statement. Characterizing “What field or movement or period in the history of thought did the Egodeath theory come from?” gets into what I call Domain Dynamics.

There are surprising observations here about where the Egodeath theory, crystallized at the start of 1988, came from and did not come from. You would guess wrong about the origins of the core Theory, compared to the historical facts of my mental, intellectual life of 1985 through 1989.


Consider the proposal:

The Egodeath theory is the crown jewel of the Psychedelic 80s.

That’s somewhat true, for the core theory, which started 1985, crystallized in January 1988, and was adequately expressed during August 1988-February 1989. During the heated heyday of initially developing the core theory, I was a complete outsider to psychedelic writings. (The Theory was uploaded in condensed summary at the start of the Web at the beginning of 1997, after a period of deliberately expansive reading 1988-1996.)

Regarding the later, peripheral extension added around the core theory, it isn’t quite right to say that the Maximal Entheogen Theory was a product of the 80s: the Maximal Entheogen Theory (of myth, mystic-state metaphor, ahistoricity) was mainly a product of research and idea-development 1999-2007, based on the core that came from the 80s.

In 1999 I got off to a good start, when I began reading about entheogen history. At the late date of 1999, I began for the first time, trying to see whether anything had ever been written proposing psychedelics were used before the 20th Century.

First I found (via online card-catalog Search within the library, on ‘Christianity AND mushroom’), the rebuttal to John Allegro’s Mushroom book, and Clark Heinrich’s 1st edition of his excellent book, and reading the 3 issues of Entheos magazine (must-have) as they came out. In the 90s I read MAPS journal — which was empty-headed regarding entheogen history, as I recall.

The 1960s “psychedelics” authors epically failed to recognize entheogen history, massively blowing the opportunity to legitimate psychedelics; they were committed to a losing and totally incorrect story, of the novelty of psychedelics. The Huxleyesque story was that Indians didn’t use peyote before 1890, and then only out of pathetic ridiculous downtrodden desperation.


Consider the proposal:

The Egodeath theory is the crown jewel of the 2nd half of the Psychedelic 80s.

That’s technically accurate (say 1985-1989) but a meaningless arbitrary “period”.


Consider the proposal:

The Egodeath theory is the crown jewel of the Psychedelic 60s-90s.

I assert and affirm that unified perspective on the 1963-1997 era. The period from the Beatles’ acid initiation in December 1963 to my 1997 uploading of the condensed summary of the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence to the Principia Cybernetica site on the newly formed World-Wide Web, is usefully and insightfully considered as a single uniform cultural era.


Consider the proposal:

The Egodeath theory is the crown jewel of the Psychedelic 60s.

There’s a little truth to that. It is evident from psychedelic lyrics from the 1960s that some people were perceiving the pre-set frozen block universe and no-free-will around 1967. I “merely” systematized what some Rock initiates saw from the 1960s onward (“Help!”, “Nothing Can Change the Shape of Things to Come”) through Rush in 1975 (“No One at the Bridge”), Bob Daisley in 1981 (Diary of a Madman), and Metallica in 1985 (Ride the Lightning).

It was easy to be in contact with the recent 1960s culture, in 1986-1988, the key years for forming the Egodeath theory (or more specifically, The Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence; or the 1987 working label “Transcendent Thinking”).

I could list many ways in which I had direct contact with people and places from the Psychedelic 60s; as just one example, my friends/classmates/roommates and I met Timothy Leary at his presentation at my university, and I had the high-wattage regional Rock station announce this the day before on the airwaves. 1987 was within reach of 1967 — 20 years separation; a single generation. Now, 2012 is separated further from 1967, separated by 45 years: over twice as long of a gap; 1967 is now more than 2 generations in the past.

When I was creating the main part of the Egodeath theory, in 1987, 1967 was actively present and near, influential and readily available for direct contact if sought out. A few minutes after I thought of the Crystalline Ground of Being idea, a Deadhead-gang friend/classmate walked by the computer lab window-wall and I went out and chatted with him. 1967 was actively present in the atmosphere in 1987, especially if you were tuned into that signal.


Consider the proposal:

The Egodeath theory is the crown jewel of the Postmodern 90s.

No, I was against empty superficial style, against relativism, as much as I was against paranormal and non-visualizable interpretation of quantum mechanics. Relativism and exaggerated constructionism were movements in exactly the opposite direction of my successful explanatory, clarifying effort and activity.


Consider the proposal:

The Egodeath theory is the crown jewel of the Cyberpunk late 80s-early 90s.

There’s some truth to that, but really you’d need to emphasize ‘cyber’ as Kubernetes (control theory) more than Online. Techno-punk is fair, except that I was only slightly identified with and motivated by the passing style of Reality Hacker/Mondo 2000/bOING bOING/Crash Collusion zine culture. And I was not at all aware of cyberpunk until 1988.

Before January 1988, my textual intellectual world consisted only of General Education courses, STEM textbooks, and a tiny handful of books such as Wilber and Watts and a few self-help books. My world was far more a world of Rock albums than texts. The movie, How Michael Hoffman Initially Formed the Egodeath Theory, has a rich Rock soundtrack, and a surprisingly light, narrow, and limited reading list, with no psychedelics reading or cyberpunk reading whatsoever and not the slightest thought of that possibility.

I didn’t read or know about anything like the Journal of Psychedelics or suchlike, until I suddenly sought them out for the first time in early 1988, *after* I had the block-universe determinism breakthrough. The Theory is a product influenced by 60s culture but *not*, until after the breakthrough in 1988, by reading writings about entheogens.

It is particularly interesting that until after my start-of-1988 breakthrough, I had never read anything at all about psychedelics, and I was not aware that anything had been written about psychedelics. It never occurred to me to check and seek out what was written on that subject.

I was not a scholar or intellectual or literature researcher at all until after the 1988 breakthrough, when I needed to link my finished core Theory to all existing previous scholarly writings. I had read a few books that were given me, but I had no concept of seeking out nonfiction writing. I was not a reader, except of textbooks, as assigned — even though I was tested as having top-percentile reading comprehension, because I read children’s literature voraciously in grade school.

Before 1988, I had read Diary of a Madman lyrics, but lightly, without comprehending them as acid-oriented.

In no way was the core Theory a product of reading the extant writings, to 1987, about psychedelics. I was entirely unaware of writings about psychedelics, didn’t give any thought to the possibility of such reading, until after working intensively for two full years, producing the core theory. Then I hastened to determine what had been written before me, although it was already self-evident to me that nothing equivalent to my Theory had ever been published: if it had, we wouldn’t be in the state of ignorance and confusion we were in 1985.

Neither had I read anything at all on the subject of Determinism and Free Will, before my breakthrough. The Way of Zen doesn’t even mention free will and determinism – an immediate strong criticism I had of that book when I cracked the puzzle of how to make sense of its points around December 1987.

By the time of the breakthrough at the start of 1988, I hadn’t read any nonfiction subjects except for a few books on self-help, Wilber, and Way of Zen, and General Semantics (Korzybski and Hayakawa).

Another massive non-influence is television. I have almost never watched television. People gave me televisions and I never turned them on except as a computer monitor.

As far as influences, the Egodeath theory came from Rock culture (the music and social and band community, *not* reading any writings) and from a small but high-quality set of self-help and spiritual self-help books, and the two main General Semantics books, along with conversations with my father about human potential and transactional psychology during the early 80s.

Check my 1986-1987 room photos showing my few books — including Marvin Minsky’s Society of Mind, which I read a little of, probably around 1985-86: that asserts determinism, though I think I didn’t see that topic in his book until 1988.


Consider the proposal:

The Egodeath theory is the crown jewel of the Neopsychedelics movement of 1995-2010.

I largely disagree. It would be better to say that my Maximal Entheogen Theory was that. By 2003, my total Theory was too encompassing to be passably characterized as a product of a single movement and era. I had hit my full-speed stride by the start of that era, so I was able to take the books and periodicals of that period to the full extreme shortly after they came out, because of the power of my Core theory.

Rather, I was able to rapidly *extend* my already-mature core theory, to almost immediately *incorporate* a customized extreme version of these new-generation entheogens writings, as fast as I could read and post about writings about ahistoricity, myth, and entheogens, 1999-2007.


The Theory was more a product of classwork in STEM, combined with self-help including General Semantics. Not Cognitive Science either: surprisingly, you cannot say that the core Theory was historically a product of Cognitive Science. I didn’t discover and seek out writings about Cognitive Science until 1989, when I started to map my existing Theory to all other relevant fields.

Cognitive Science as such was not present in my thinking until after the Theory was formed. My Mental Construct Processing theory came from, and was a product of, the following fields of thinking and reading: self-help, spiritual self-help, and General Semantics — together with introspection about mental control in daily activity-coordination decision-making, and during classwork with STEM textbooks(study and problem-working — basically, various types of math problems).

I was surprised, around 2009, to see someone characterize my Egodeath theory as heavily based on computer metaphors — but then, it’s routine for people to mischaracterize my work in various fields, because they don’t comprehend the compasse of it. “The Egodeath theory is merely a (“warmed-over”) repeat of Joseph Campbell”, someone wrote — showing merely their great ignorance, their lack of reading, my theory.

If you pigeonhole my Theory as a repeat of Kant, Wilber, Leary, etc., it just shows your own ignorance and lack of reading my theory and lack of reading a variety of relevant topics. My theory is a new combination, of my customized new versions of, existing fields — it is certainly not merely any single existing field, repeated unchanged. It is my, superior version of the entheogen field, combined with my, superior version of the ahistoricity field, with a customized version of self-control ideas, customized version of determinism.

For example, I’m the only one to connect determinism across all the fields where it has resided, and provide a modified synthesis that is tantamount to tracing the history of the idea of no-free-will across all the relevant fields — not, like other writers, limiting myself to Reformed Theology, or Physics, or modern philosophy of metaphysics, or ancient Greek literature, or ancient Indian literature (related: Balsekar), or Cognitive Philosophy (as in The Mind’s I compilation).

Campbell doesn’t highlight self-control cybernetics, Heimarmene/no-free-will, or entheogens/ the dissociative state/ loose cognition; he wrongly thinks myth is about life-drama progression in the ordinary state of consciousness, with the dream-state serving to provide the alternative state.

“The Egodeath theory is mainly, too much, the computer model of the mind”, someone wrote. Such far-off-base characterizations show merely what such critics are attuned to. They come with a certain perspective, they selectively choose to read my passages that resonate with that perspective, and then accuse *me* of only writing from that limited perspective, a limited view which *they* in fact brought.

The Theory discovered in January 1988 was based perhaps on Cognitive Psychology (from General Semantics and self-help), not on Cognitive Science.

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Actually, the Egodeath theory was explicitly started 1986 & 1987, and was influenced by various fields then, even though I wasn’t, for the most part, a pro-active scholar yet. My father told me I should focus on Ken Wilber because Wilber synthesized many fields for me — that’s how I primarily think of Wilber.

Wilber provides some useful ideas that are usefully abstracted from his effort of combining “Western developmental psychology” with “Eastern spirituality”. (Later, in the Postmodern 90s, Wilber became obsessed with justifying spirituality to academic postmodernists.)

Ken Wilber also provides some dead-wrong, misleading ideas about psychospiritual cultural evolution since “mythic-consciousness” Antiquity. And he opens his first book by censoring Nitrous Oxide from William James’ passage: a telling bad start which gives a clue to the main thing wrong about Wilber’s theory: it fails to be what any good, true, relevant, helpful, correct theory of religion must be, entheogen-centered.

Alan Watts appreciated psychedelics, so he was somewhat closer to truth than Ken Wilber, closer to discovering the historical entheogen basis of religion, but he suffered from the amazing 1960s blindness to the history of entheogens, committing the grand 1960s fallacy and massive strategic misstep, of assuming that “psychedelics” are new. The Professor Neil Peart in 1976 had clear vision and was absolutely correct, having the obstructionist modern cultural ruler-priests acknowledge “Yes we know, it’s nothing new. We have no need for ancient ways.”

The tangible initial work of hammering out the Egodeath theory in the first place is recorded in the lost blank books 1-5, which were written October 1985-March 1987, and in the October 1986 overflow class notes, and then in the binder notebooks of April 1987-January 1988 and beyond. Some photos are in the Egodeath Yahoo discussion group Photos area. I wish to make these available online — for one thing, this would help me to tighten up the Theory across time, integrating the semi-forgotten good ideas, perspectives, and emphases from 1986-1987 into the later ideas.

— Michael Hoffman, October 26, 2012
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Group: egodeath Message: 5944 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 27/10/2012
Subject: Re: Egodeath theory a central product of the Psychedelic 80s
Also influential or at least useful for my early project, was my second-favorite course: Control Systems. The core Theory, the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence, was partly a product of having taken a Control Systems course. That’s another way, besides General Semantics, in which you could say that the Theory was a product of the university curriculum, not some completely alien, strange, foreign importation.

The Theory certainly came *from me*, from my character, from my independent highly motivated idea-development 10/85-1/88, but I was able to employ the university courses toward that private, distinctive goal and that developing style of mine, and I was helped by the collegiate Rock culture and community, and college culture at the same time as using and being influenced by the course curriculum. To some extent — as much as I chose — other public and private universities also were involved as the context I drew from, 1986-1987.

Godel, Escher, Bach was not a source for the core Theory. In late 1987, just before the breakthrough, my roommate (music-department grad-student, assistant instructor) told me briefly about Hofstadter’s GEB book, but I don’t remember whether the conversation was about levels of control, or music, or another topic from the book. I got that book later, in 1988, *after* the breakthrough.

— Michael Hoffman, October 26, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 5945 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 27/10/2012
Subject: Re: Egodeath theory a central product of the Psychedelic 80s
In November 2011, I determined that my university library in 1985-1989 had Robert Graves’ books, which clearly asserted the full essence of the entheogen theory of religion and of Greek myth, including in his decades-ahead-of-the-pack 1956 book.

Graves-Wasson enth theory 1960, Hall 1925, S. 1845
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Had I somehow in 1988 found out about Robert Graves’ books sitting in my library, with 83 pages about the Entheogen solution to interpreting religious myth in 4 books, one can imagine that I would’ve developed my Phase 2, extension theory, about myth, metaphor, and entheogen history (and perhaps ahistoricity while we’re at it), immediately in the couple months after having formed the core Theory, as an immediate fallout.

I definitely was trying to figure out which entheogen is the bitter sweet scrolls eaten in Revelation, by 1988. But I didn’t know anything in 1988 about Greco-Roman myth and religion; I only knew that the New Testament had lots of metaphors that I believed were informed by entheogens. In 1988, when I started expansive reading in order to communicate my discovery to the extant intellectual world, I didn’t catch the kind of thread Graves wrote about in 1956 — it was at least 11 years later, around 1999, that I picked up that thread, such as through Clark Heinrich and Entheos (Carl Ruck, Mark Hoffman).

For 11 years I read many subjects, but lacked any knowledge of entheogen history — so there is an unfortunate gap of 14 years, between my core Theory breakthrough of January 11, 1988, and my mythic metaphor breakthrough of November 12, 2001. During that gap, instead of doing breakthrough extension work in entheogen history, I was screwing around wasting time reading postmodernism and Ken Wilber trying to sell spirituality against postmodernism, wasting time in disposable cyberculture reading, semi-wasting time reading fundamentalist Dave Hunt on Christianity — he’s an author who wrote against Catholicism and yet he never heard of Reformed Theology!

I enjoyed my Fall 1984 class about ancient history, but felt bad because due to some horribly irrational character defect or mental malfunction, I couldn’t pull together the motivation or self-control discipline to take up pen and write some end-of-semester essay, around Thanksgiving. I don’t remember covering myth in that class.

At least I got some closure: although I did initial research using the Entheogen Chrestomathy online (and I have a printed copy of it), that Chrestomathy was insufficient and only indicated that Robert Graves was enormously overlooked and important. My estimate of the import of Graves’ scattered writings on entheogens in myth continued to escalate, a year ago. It was finally in my 1988 university library that, in 2011, I did a full survey and inventory of Graves’ writings as early as 1956; he cracked the puzzle of Western entheogen history wide open in 1956.

Better late than never, for me to finally pull those books from my library’s shelf: books that I could’ve checked out immediately after my 1988 breakthrough, when I was already trying to solve the problem of identifying the entheogen of Revelation, but waited 11 years before typing “Christianity AND mushroom” into a good card catalog… assuming I could find an electronic search machine in 1988, such as dial-up to the U. C. Berkeley online card catalog which I was doing in 1989. The leading-edge scholar became more powerful by 1999, than in 1988, thanks to online information technology.

Wasson and Allegro were distractions from that breakthrough, and Graves himself didn’t want to be associated with any more than that scattered but certainly breakthrough topic, lest it reduce his sales.

I was that close to near-simultaneously discovering the core Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence in 1988 and then immediately discovering and formulating the peripheral Maximal Entheogen Theory of Religion. Somehow the postmodern 90s got in the way.

I read my King James bible from my grandfather in my June 1986-May 1987 dorm room asking “How is it that the bitter sweet scrolls in Revelation are definitely equivalent to tabs of acid, although there were no tabs of acid yet, when it was written?” I hadn’t read about Amanita yet, or heard of Allegro or Wasson. But ever since before my 1988 breakthrough, long before I focused on entheogen history starting 1999, in 1986-1987 it was clear to me that the New Testament in some way confirms my focus at the time on psychedelics and self-control enlightenment.

In 1988 I would have loved to walk across the street to the library to read Robert Graves about mushrooms as the key to the riddle of Greek myth and religious experiencing. At last I did cross that street and read those books, in November 2011.

Thus my two massive breakthroughs were years apart instead of in the same month as they could’ve been: Cybernetics/Determinism/Dissociation in 1988, and Myth/Metaphor/Entheogen History in 2001. Only in 2011 did I recognize Robert Graves as a missing link that had been in my 1988 library.

Graves suppressed himself to accommodate people’s preconceptions, and so we had to wait some 13 extra years for me to make the peripheral breakthrough. My peripheral breakthrough was initially in 1999 motivated by the project of confirming my core Theory against the New Testament, and then also against Greco-Roman myth and mystery-religion.

— Michael Hoffman, October 26, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 5946 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 27/10/2012
Subject: Re: Egodeath theory a central product of the Psychedelic 80s
Clarification of the last paragraph of the previous posting:

In 1999, I started my focused research toward the project of confirming my 1988 core Theory against the New Testament. That research led to the 2001 peripheral breakthrough: the New Testament is a double-meaning, meaning-flipping humorous play on determinism and entheogens and is purely metaphorical, not literal in any way.

That breakthrough solution to the riddle of the meaning of the New Testament then immediately enabled solving Greco-Roman myth and mystery-religion as fast as I could read, think a little, and write up the deciphering — a rich vein or jackpot that played out continuously from 2001 through 2007, with follow-up completion in Fall 2011, including the November 21, 2011 breakthrough of deciphering the rap’d-by-god metaphor and andro-gyne.

The 1999-2001 research proceeded quickly. To narrow the starting date, see my posts in Yahoo Gnosticism group or Mindspace since 1996 before that, or in Jesus Mysteries Yahoo group. I think it was early 1999, to November 2001: less than 3 years of work. That suggests that hypothetically in 1988 after my core Theory breakthrough, I could’ve done that research next, around 1990. But, fewer materials were available in 1990 than 2000. The delay made it easier to make the mythic-metaphor breakthrough.

— Michael Hoffman, October 26, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 5947 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 29/10/2012
Subject: *Scientific* theory explaining altered-state revelation
Conceptualizing what ‘scientific’ must mean in the field of explaining altered-state revelation. Also see my previous writings about ‘scientific’.

Below are preliminary strategic considerations, and how to clear away preconceptions that hinder and are unhelpful and irrelevant. First, as a preliminary, here is the attitude or stance that best serves to immediately produce the true, relevant definition of what ‘scientific’ must mean in the field of explaining the insights and experience of altered-state revelation.


What are my own criteria (positive and negative) for a theory of altered-state revelation to be ‘scientific’? You can immediately show my 10 theories of altered-state revelation, and I can assess them confidently on which aspects are scientific and why. Extract my criteria I use. What criteria is my judgment based on, in fact? Deduce it; reverse-engineer (rather than ahead-of-time preconception) what ‘scientific’ means in the theory of altered-state revelation.

Given that my Egodeath theory (Transcendent Knowledge; the core Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence, and the peripheral Maximal Entheogen Theory of Religion) are true and are scientific by definition, and given that this true and scientific theory could only have been reached by my thinking-style, which is definitive of ‘scientific theoretical thinking’ in this field, back-deduce from these facts, what therefore constitutes ‘scientific theoretical thinking’ in this field.

What is Michael Hoffman’s thinking style? By definition, that thinking style defines what ‘scientific theoretical thinking’ must mean, in this field. We instantly thus do away with irrelevancies such as “‘scientific’ means mathematically based”. Just like at the end of the Wasson article I pushed it all aside and said “enough of these ridiculous irrelevant arguments and positions: it doesn’t matter what the ignoramuses and deniers think or thought about entheogen history.


Let us quit wasting time with frivolous puerile irrelevancies, and cut straight to the real discussions, cut straight to making sense of the facts of entheogen history, organizing and explaining rightly and coherently how these facts fit together. My must have no patience for nonsense, irrelevancy, and b.s., but commit all our effort to sensible relevant central direct helpful mature activity in theorizing about entheogen history. Don’t waste a second unprofitably arguing with people whose thinking is on the wrong track.

The only reason I wasted my time writing the Wasson article is to set the record straight, in order to clear the Allegro roadblock, which Robert Price’s review of Acharya’s book exemplified. Price wrote that Allegro is wrong about Amanita in Christian origins, as Wasson showed. Price and many others used Wasson as a main tool to reject Amanita in Christian history. Wasson’s book thus was the main roadblock to truth, that Christianity and religion is based first and foremost on psychoactive plants.

To enable people to come to this true view, I was forced to go back and waste my time showing that this supposed roadblock, Wasson, had absolutely no legs to stand on. I had to lay out and extract exactly what Wasson asserts, and show that by all possible measures, Wasson’s view fails in every way, totally. He is self-contradictory, false, malicious, uses arguments by authority, is evasive in his writing style, is unhelpful, is incomplete, commits the exact same ludicrous baseless argument methods as his book condemns Eliade for.

My article was an exercise in showing every way in which Wasson was completely wrong by every standard. He was only right in saying (which he did too vaguely) that at least some religion was based on some use of psychoactives. Everything else he stated on the subject was wrong, misleading, blocked research for decades, harmed the field, was self-contradictory, was vague, was incoherent, was evasive, and so on.

Furthermore, that Wasson was *not* the first to write about Amanita in entheogen history, was *not* the first to draw the connection between the trees of Eden and the Amanita (his position is malicious and theft and garbled in various ways here, per Kettle Logic: “Rolfe 1925 connected the trees of Eden and Amanita. He was wrong; his was a naive misinterpretation. And, I am the first to discover (around 1968) a connection between the trees of Eden and Amanita.” That’s literally Wasson’s position. It’s gibberish; it’s not even a coherent, consistent, definable position.

And it was Robert Graves (long after Helena Blavatsky 1877, who was long after Eusebe Salverte 1846) who figured out the mushroom explanation of Greek myth in 1956 and who told this to Wasson.


Wasson’s sort of arguments and position(s) are not, in themselves, worth any time to learn or refute. We must never waste time refuting stupid, wrong ideas of what it means for a theory of altered-state revelation to be ‘scientific’. Do so would be as unprofitable, and would delay and avoid progress, as much as if we were to waste time paying any attention to Wasson’s mostly stupid views and incoherent pile of often-contradictory assertions. Sometimes, in extreme cases like Price’s typical use of Wasson to block Allegro’s insight, it *is* worth our time to set things straight regarding a clueless person’s assertions.

In most cases, we make the most progress toward truth and explanatory power and explanatory coherence, by putting all our attention on ideas that have merit, rather than wasting time refuting ideas that don’t have merit. Say, for every unit of time we spent disproving that ‘scientific’ means ‘physical’ or ‘mathematical’ or ‘ordinary-state based’, we must spend 10 units of time quickly and efficiently constructing a relevant and sensibly scientific model of altered-state revelation, which must be non-physical (that is, a cognitive-based model), non-mathematical (that is, an experiential-phenomenological model), and altered-state-based (i.e. multistate science per Tart).

A truly scientific theory of altered-state revelation must be cognitive-based, experiential-phenomenological, and altered-state-based like Ken Wilber’s idea of scientific observation conducted in the mystic state to observe mystic phenomena. Obviously, a reasonable person (that is, me) begins with the appropriate axioms and principles for the field, so as to make a scientific approach in that field. From that successful theory that results, we can deduce what the definition of ‘scientific’ was. This attitude/strategy is similar to the transition from an early, false theory of what Science is, to the later, truer theory of what Science is.

First, philosophers of science held an a-priori notion of what ‘scientific’ is, or ‘the scientific method’. But then, historians of *actual* science and the thinking-development in the minds of actual scientists, revealed that *actual* science and *actual* scientists failed to meet the philosophers’ definitions of what science must be, and of what the scientific method is. We knew something was false, when we compared the theory of ‘science’ to actual ‘science’, and the two were different — when actual science turned out to not be ‘science’ according to the abstract, theoretical definition of ‘science’.

They were forced to throw away their now-obviously false definition of ‘science’, when it was revealed that their definition failed to match the actual activity, practice, or thinking-style of science as revealed by research in the history of science. Per Feyerabend, ‘science’ must be defined as what scientists have in fact done, historically, not what an a-priori theory of science declares that people must do in order to be scientific in their approach.

I have here completely cleared away at one blow, all the stupid, nonsensical, time-wasting, irrelevant, harmful, way-blocking conceptions of what it means for a theory of altered-state revelation to be ‘scientific’. All conceptions of ‘scientific’ besides mine, in this field, are false and irrelevant. What, then, *is* ‘scientific’ in this field, which is to say, what is my thinking style in this field? What are my own criteria for what I agree is a ‘scientific’ theory of altered-state revelation? My critical audience consists of one person: myself. Forget everyone else; they are all hopelessly confused. I am the only person who is not confused.

Paying no attention to the confused and irrelevant thinking held by others, what have I convinced myself constitutes being ‘scientific’ in this field? What conception of the notion ‘scientific’ is *relevant* to this field? Don’t let other fields define this, or other, confused people’s philosophies in any way set the criteria here. Define ‘scientific’ in a truly independent, field-driven, field-specific way. Know the modern-era origin and history of science, and the history of the philosophy science, but isolate and differentiate that from this field.

The right and true, efficient and effective and relevant approach, is for me to take the stance of authority and reporter: I am *reporting* to you (or to myself) what ‘scientific’ evidently proved to mean, in this field. ‘Scientific’ thinking here by definition, is defined by, “That manner of thinking which led Michael Hoffman to discover and formulate the Egodeath theory” (particularly the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence, including the crystalline ground of being, and its non-control ramifications, as of January 11, 1988).

In practice, then, ‘scientific’ here is deduced from my notes of October 1986, and April 1987-January 1988; whatever the rules and thinking we find there, those rules by definition are definitive of — they produce the true, correct definition of — ‘scientific’ in this field. I am scientific — I mean that in a definitive way. Whatever I was (in my thinking style) is, by definition, the definer of what ‘scientific’ means in this field. I am Science, embodied, as far as this field is concerned.

To ask “What does it mean truly to be ‘scientific’ in the field of altered-state revelation?” is, by de facto definition, to ask “How did Michael Hoffman figure out the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence 1985-1988?” When you deduce my thinking-style of 1985-1988, you thus then possess the definition of what it in fact means to be ‘scientific’ in the field of altered-state revelation.

It is a given: The Egodeath theory was figured out by a logical Engineering student working on the problem of obtaining and securing the expected full rational control of his mind by applying STEM-type thinking (Science, Technology, Engineering, Math) and by rejecting fuzzy, paranormal, vague thinking.

Given as fact that I (by definition) am a scientist, and used science to figure out the Egodeath theory, we must reject irrelevant a-priority notions of what constitutes ‘science’, and we must instead follow as definitive of ‘science’, what Michael Hoffman in fact did, in terms of thinking style and thinking process, to successfully produce the Theory and self-correct his initial preconceptions, expectation, and incomplete thinking of 1985 by 1988.

Is the Egodeath theory scientific? Yes. What does it mean for such a theory to be ‘scientific’? By definition, in the field of explaining altered-state revelation, to be ‘scientific’ means to reason and analyze in the manner in which Michael Hoffman reasoned and analyzed 1985-1988. This is a powerful approach, an empirical approach to studying how science is actually done in the real world, because this approach instantly avoids all time-wasting, dead-end, a-priori notions and irrelevant and unjustified definitions of what ‘scientific’ must be taken to mean or amount to.

This is the fast and effective way to formulate the true and relevant definition of what it means to be ‘scientific’ in this field: simply cut straight to characterizing my own thinking-manner 1985-1988, and you immediately have the true and fully relevant definition of what ‘scientific’ has to mean in this field, wasting no time on confused irrelevancies such as math, formal propositional logic, or the unhelpful false dogma of Popperian predictionism (“if it’s not falsifiable per my conception of falsifiability, or if it doesn’t predict according to my conception of prediction, it’s not science.”)


A “scientific” “theory” of “altered-state revelation”. Expand each term.

What is it truly appropriate for ‘scientific’ to mean, regarding a proper theory of altered-state revelation?

What is it truly appropriate for ‘theory’ to mean, with an appropriately scientific explanation of altered-state revelation?

What is it truly appropriate for ‘altered-state revelation’ to mean, as needs to be covered by a truly scientific theory?

Given: I am the authority; I have read Philosophy of Science, and have read Theology and theory of religion, and have read about the altered state, holy spirit, mystic-state enlightenment, and mystery-religion revelation, what definitions satisfy my own sensibility and judgment?

Given: the judge of correctness and adequacy is myself.

Given: terms have a cluster of associations. No single definition or defined position, in the books on philosophy of science, is adequate. To be scientific cannot be narrowed to “the use of mathematical proof to test the meaning of propositions regarding objective material physics”. Given: existing definitions of ‘science’ are arbitrary, reductionist, limited, puerile, immature, unsophisticated. Given that I am the person who must use my own wise, relevantly informed good judgment, authoritative judgment.

I am the definer of these terms; my declaration, as the authority, is definitive. What do I reveal and proclaim ‘scientific’ to consist of, in this field? How ought we best understand the term ‘scientific’ in the context of explaining altered-state loose cognitive control seizure and its history?

Ken Wilber’s book Eye to Eye discusses appropriate aspects of being scientific in the field of higher mental development. Ken Wilber’s theory of mystic enlightenment is limited and incorrect in some ways, but overall his approach could perhaps be called scientific, though some of his hypotheses are incorrect. A scientific theory or hypothesis or conceptual system can be incorrect, or partly incorrect. ‘Scientific’ doesn’t mean true, or proven. A scientific theory can be false.

Given: a theory represents reality more or less accurately. A better theory represents and explains reality more accurately. A theory should be true and coherent and have maximum explanatory power, using the minimum essential principles. Reality exists distinct from theories. It is possible to improve theories to make them closer to reality. I reject extremist social constructivism or relativism. I have a can-do, engineering-styled mentality: we can fix our theory to make it better and more accurate at representing reality – how things really are.

In some respects, we can and should leverage a naive view, that we can know reality and figure it out and know that we are correct; we can know that a theory matches reality; we can judge whether one theory or the other in fact matches reality better. Gleeful epistemological defeatism helps us by defining the opposite of this useful, powerful view. The valuable and true approach, that has merit, is, by definition, the opposite of epistemological defeatism and extremist social constructivism. Study the latter, to succeed at the former.

Reality can be visualized, comprehended, and explained. We can do it. We can succeed at figuring out reality. Forget math; this attitude is a big definitive part of what it truly means to be ‘scientific’. We also must define, from the point of view of scientific Egodeath theory, what ‘unscientific’ means here. What is the difference between an unscientific Egodeath theory, and a scientific Egodeath theory?

Bracket-aside all existing notions in the philosophy of science and in the books that analyze pseudo-science. Take an emancipated, existentially responsible and autonomous authoritative stance: Given that I am permitted to declare and proclaim definitively the truth on the matter, in sovereign fashion, of what ‘scientific’ means in this field.

‘Scientific’ here in fact truly means __. So I rightly declare; this is unassailable, as a declaration and finding that is guaranteed to stand the test of time and cannot be overthrown.

‘Theory’ here in fact truly means __.

‘Altered-state revelation’ here in fact truly means __.

By definition, my thinking-style is definitive of what ‘scientific’ means in this field. By definition, the Michael Hoffman manner of thinking *is* and constitutes by paradigmatic example and mold, what it means to be scientific in this field. Thus we have the useful alternative vector to answer the question of defining ‘scientific’ here: simply analyze what is and is not Michael Hoffman’s style of thinking in this field. My thinking style is exemplary of what’s scientific in this field. What is my thinking style in this field? What is not my thinking style in this field?

I reject paranormal explanations. Therefore it follows that in this field, paranormal thinking is unscientific or anti-scientific. I couldn’t have solved the puzzle or seen the revealed knowledge, if I had accepted and used paranormal explanations. I condemn as necessarily false, paranormal interpretations of quantum physics. To be scientific is to totally and in principle reject paranormal thinking and explanations and conjectures. Reality can be explained. To explain reality, requires non-paranormal premises.

If you hold paranormal principles, you cannot explain reality. Paranormal thinking prevents you from being able to figure out and explain reality; you will have poor explanatory power, and will be false. To have high explanatory power and to have a true theory, that matches and explains reality, you must not use any paranormal thinking.

The following are non-scientific: reducing Philosophy to Analytic Philosophy. Scientific philosophy, and its thought-style, must cover much more than the truth-value of propositions expressed as sentences. Broadly conceived, yes, you can use the lens of “truth-value of propositions expressed as sentences”, but that view or metaphor is far too limited; it’s too narrow to be true or useful or describe reality.

Similarly with math, or propositional logic. Yes, you can express the true theory of altered-state revelation in the form of propositional logic. However, for developing and expressing the theory, propositional logic is inadequate and is limited; it comes to act as a model, but is a poor model.

A scientific theory approaches the subject-matter of mystic-state revelation using an appropriate thinking-style, not propositional logic focusing on truth-value of sentences. Paul Thagard’s modelling of theory comparison and of explanatory power is more useful and relevant than the concepts and thinking-style in the field of propositional logic. Propositional logic can only be a subset of scientific thinking in this field; it is not, by itself, a sufficient kind of philosophy, even though propositional logic is scientific.

Popperism is not sufficient: scientific thinking is certainly not defined as falsifiability or prediction(ism). Per Thagard, scientists don’t use falsifiability or prediction as much as Popper claims; they use general explanatory power and explanatory coherence. A scientist is a person who adopts the theory that has greater explanatory power, breadth, and coherence. Prediction is an element but is not definitive; is not the center of what makes scientific theory scientific.

Consider potential objections to the assertion that my Egodeath theory is scientific:

o The Egodeath theory is not scientific, because it isn’t mathematical. To be scientific is, by definition, primarily a matter of being mathematical and mathematically proven as true.

o The Egodeath theory is not scientific, because it isn’t about the physical. To be scientific is, by definition, primarily a matter of being about the physical.

o The Egodeath theory is not scientific, because it isn’t about the communal scientific consensus based on falsifiable experiments. To be scientific is, by definition, primarily a matter of being about communal scientific consensus based on falsifiable experiments.

Most such arguments are puerile, immature, irrelevant, and absurd, based on narrow arbitrary fantasies of what ‘scientific’ needs to mean, and truly means. Forget that immature thinking; it cannot lead to insight, coherence, or truth. It is just silly and a waste of time, as I wrote at the end of my Wasson article; let us not waste time. People have been dying all around me. Life is on the verge of likely ending; I must have insight and breakthrough immediately, this hour; we must cut straight to the truth using sound judgment that will stand the test of time, and not waste time in dead-end irrelevant immature thinking and arguments.

It is ridiculous and a waste of time to define ‘scientific’ as being centrally centered around falsifiability, or math, or prediction, or the physical, or communal consensus. In fact, ‘scientific’ is not defined by math, or the physical — it is defined by something more fuzzy, more custom, more particular to the individual field.

I have realized that in fact, a ‘scientific’ theory in this field means __ — against all the false, confused, irrelevant, arbitrary notions of what makes some approach ‘scientific’.

A scientific theory of altered-state revelation is explicit, non-metaphor-based, metaphor-explaining, applies to the ordinary tight-cognitive state and the altered, loose-cognitive state, is compact, is organized, is systematic, is logical, is rediscovered in each mind, is not best explained in the language of math, is explained in terms of cognitive phenomenology and personal control thinking, and personal control across time. It explains mystic religion and myth in all contexts, eras, areas, and brands of higher experiencing.

Such a scientific theory can be summarized and communicated efficiently with accurate propagation. It is expressed in the form of a small number of principles, together with showing how these principles have extremely broad ramifications in many fields. Core and peripheral components are differentiated explicitly. You can ask anyone what the scientific theory asserts, and they could look up the aspect or point explicitly in the theory-expression and accurately report what the theory says about that aspect.

A non-scientific theory of altered-state revelation is metaphor-based, implicit, non-systematic, only explains a particular religion or era or region, cannot be summarized and communicated efficiently with accurate propagation.

— Professor Loosecog, October 27, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 5949 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 29/10/2012
Subject: Re: *Scientific* theory explaining altered-state revelation
[typo corrections]

You can immediately show [me] 10 theories of altered-state revelation, and I can assess them confidently on which aspects are scientific and why.

[We] must have no patience for nonsense, irrelevancy, and b.s., but commit all our effort to sensible relevant central direct helpful mature activity in theorizing about entheogen history.

[Doing] so would be as unprofitable, and would delay and avoid progress, as much as if we were to waste time paying any attention to Wasson’s mostly stupid views and incoherent pile of often-contradictory assertions.

Know the modern-era origin and history of science, and the history of the philosophy [of] science, but isolate and differentiate that from this field.

Given as fact that I (by definition) am a scientist, and used science to figure out the Egodeath theory, we must reject irrelevant [a-priori] notions of what constitutes ‘science’, and we must instead follow as definitive of ‘science’, what Michael Hoffman in fact did, in terms of thinking style and thinking process, to successfully produce the Theory and self-correct his initial preconceptions, expectation, and incomplete thinking of 1985 by 1988.

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A non-scientific theory of altered-state revelation is metaphor-based, depending on metaphor as the ultimate means of expressing the theory. That is, a non-scientific theory is in the form of “the truth revealed in mystic revelation is [some metaphor].” For example: “What’s revealed in the mystic altered state is that you are married to the sun.”

A scientific theory of altered-state revelation is non-metaphor-based, and is metaphor-explaining; that is, in the form of “the truth revealed in mystic revelation is [non-metaphorical assertion], and [some metaphor] means, or maps to, or is isomorphic with, [that non-metaphorical assertion].” For example: “What’s revealed in the mystic altered state is that your personal control-power is not an autonomous source of your control-thoughts. This point is described by the metaphor of the female psyche being rap’d by the male deity.”

The non-scientific form of that assertion, or of theory-expression, would be “”What’s revealed in the mystic altered state is that your female psyche is rap’d by the male deity.”

A wrong scientific or pseudo-scientific explanation is “Religion is actually about the literal sun and seasons.” That’s reductionist, in that it fails to cover the altered-state religious experiential phenomena, and targets physical objects as the referents of mystic-mythic metaphor instead. Metaphor points to non-metaphor referents. What are the actual referents? What kind of referents are these?

o Mystery-religion myth points to personal cognitive self-control dynamics.

o Ruler Cult also integrated those referents with hierarchical social-political structuring, as the referents of State myth.

o In contrast, New Testament Christianity integrated those referents (that is, personal cognitive self-control dynamics) with egalitarian social-political structuring. Christian mystic mystery-myth is metaphor that points to 2 referents: one cognitive-cybernetic (personal cognitive self-control dynamics), the other social-cybernetic (the egalitarian social-political structuring).

Ruler Cult metaphor –> personal cognitive self-control dynamics & the hierarchical social-political structuring
New Testament metaphor –> personal cognitive self-control dynamics & the egalitarian social-political structuring

— Michael Hoffman, October 27, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 5950 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 29/10/2012
Subject: Re: *Scientific* theory explaining altered-state revelation
Given that the term ‘scientific’ in a new field is undefined, when I state that the Egodeath theory is scientific, I must also define what ‘scientific’ means in this field.

We must study Christian source-texts scientifically. What does that mean? It means a critical, skeptical stance toward what Church authorities claim about the texts such as who the author is and when the author wrote, and instead, using the texts to deduce the truth about their development and origins.

The Egodeath theory is scientific. That is:

o It explains religious experiencing (rather than ignoring it, as reductionistic so-called “theories of religion do).

o It is explicit, non-metaphor-based, it uses non-metaphor explicit theory to explain metaphor in terms of non-metaphor referents.

o It defines a small, compact set of axioms or hypotheses or explanatory model components, and it shows how that succinct set of components has greater and broader explanatory power, and greater explanatory coherence, than other theories of religion or altered-state experiencing.

o It can be defined, taught, and accurately communicated, and summarized. It is not vague. It is a body of specific knowledge. It can be expressed in propositional logic and in Knowledge Base form. It can be summarized for routine pedagogy, regardless of whether the instructed people access the loose cognitive state.

o It doesn’t assume that the referents are physical objects that are non-religious. It asserts appropriate kind of referents: cognitive-cybernetic, and social-political, as well as explaining the way people used metaphor to link revealed cognitive-cybernetic relationships to social-political relationships:

The propaganda of Ruler Cult said “God overpowers your self-control power, like Jupiter’s eagle abducted Ganymede, and like Mithras overpowered your bull, therefore worship the guy above you in the God-given hierarchy.”

The counter-propaganda of New Testament Christianity replied “God overpowers your self-control power, like God’s dove-like Holy Spirit, therefore love as brother everyone else, in his God-given egalitarian social structuring.”

— Michael Hoffman, October 28, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 5951 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 29/10/2012
Subject: Re: *Scientific* theory explaining altered-state revelation
The Egodeath theory is the most useful, definitive example of a science that has physical and mental components, for the general case of evaluating theories as to whether they are science or pseudoscience. The question of differentiating science from pseudo-science is best resolved by using the Egodeath theory as the quintessential instance of scientific thinking. The hard sciences don’t provide a relevant typical example, for those fields that wish to be considered scientific and have some combination of physical and psychic or mental components.

Place different theories on a grid. Assess each theory in terms of how physical its subject matter, and how mental its subject matter. Typically with pseudoscience, we are comparing some hard science (Physics) to a combination of hard science and mental psychic science (telekinesis). A problem with that type of comparison is that the example field representing science is too extreme: Physics is purely physical. It is more relevant to compare telekinesis with Cognitive Science, or with the Egodeath theory. Is telekinesis a matter of science, or pseudo science?

Thinking about Physics as example of science won’t help much, in discussing aspects in which telekinesis is or is not scientific, because Physics has no mental component. Physics is a poor source for a positive example of the mental, or the psyche realm, in science.

When asking if a given field is scientific, where that field has a physical and mental component, the definitive example of a scientific field with a physical and mental component, is the Egodeath theory, even more so than Cognitive Science. Cognitive Science in its official form is of little relevance for physical+mental pseudosciences, because official Cognitive Science barely attempts to cover the loose, altered cognitive state.

An Egodeath theory could easily be a pseudoscience, so my Egodeath theory provides the most interesting criteria and example of a scientific approach instead of a non-scientific approach. The theory that is most like a pseudo-science without being a pseudo-science, is the Egodeath theory; it is definitive of the difference between pseudo-science and science. In contrast, Physics is a poor example of science (a poor choice for a general-purpose evaluation strategy) when trying to judge mental+physical pseudosciences.

Physics is a quintessential extreme definitive science by virtue of its being at the extreme physical and mathematical end of a spectrum.

The Egodeath theory is a quintessential extreme definitive science by virtue of its being at the extreme experiential side of a spectrum, yet still being purely scientific and not at all a pseudo-science.

The Egodeath theory covers the most extreme experiencing, while remaining firmly on the side of scientific thinking rather than any pseudoscientific thinking. It covers extreme experiencing, yet is explicit, compact, broad in ramification, broad in explanatory power, direct, communicable, summarizable, and it rejects the paranormal. It rejects the premise that we can’t know the truth, and that we can’t rationally figure out and define and communicate mystic-state enlightenment.

The Egodeath theory asserts no-free-will, like many scientists; it is a perspective on ramifications of no-free-will and the illusory aspect of the experience of personal autonomous control.

— Michael Hoffman, October 28, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 5952 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 29/10/2012
Subject: Re: *Scientific* theory explaining altered-state revelation
“As the greatest achievement and breakthrough ever, I have explained religion scientifically.” What does ‘explain’, ‘religion’, and ‘scientific’ mean? Re-state the assertion using the definitions instead of the ambiguous terms:

As the greatest achievement and breakthrough ever, I have explained religion scientifically. That is, I have created an explicit, rational, efficient, testable explanatory model of the experience of the revealing of hidden knowledge in the mystic altered state, along with an explanation of the social and political aspects of New Testament Christianity along with the earlier Ruler Cult in the Roman Empire.

“I have created, for the first time, a completely successful rational explanatory theory of religion.” What does ‘religion’ or ‘theory of religion’ mean? What type of ‘theory of religion’ is this? When you say “theory of religion”, should I picture a Rodney Stark-like social theory of the spread of Christianity? A social-functional theory, that religion exists because it serves a social-cohesion or social-control function? Or do you mean a theory of mystical experiencing?

— Michael Hoffman, October 28, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 5953 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 30/10/2012
Subject: Bk: Did Jesus Exist? Mainstream Bart Ehrman confronts ahistoricity/
Did Jesus Exist?: The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth
Bart Ehrman
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0062204602
368 pages
March 20, 2012
HarperOne

The tables have turned: the topic of the ahistoricity of Jesus is now mainstream. The end of the world is surely upon us; I’m suggesting that the end of the world comes in the sense that on December 12, 2012, Mr. Historical Jesus dies. Earl Doherty is planning on writing a book that’s a rebuttal to this book. Several other new books on ahistoricity have come out recently, including another literalist’s rebuttal (and acknowledgement) of the Jesus myth. However, my Egodeath theory is needed, as a finished alternative explanation of religious history and meaning, and the mystic altered state.

I defined and assert the most extreme view: Jesus, the apostles, and Paul, and the church fathers didn’t exist; that is, each of them didn’t exist literally as an identifiable single person (that’s my own original phrase and concept based on my own idea development and research and writing within this field). The historical Jesus is shrinking and disappearing into the multitude of the crowd. Pick how you want to spin it: either there were 0 Jesuses, or multiple Jesuses (a plethora, like having a crowd of Santas come through your fireplace on Christmas). The difficult position to defend is that there was 1 Jesus.

Radical scholars assert there was no Jesus. Liberal scholars (including Bart Ehrman) assert there was a Jesus, but he was an inconsequential nobody, hardly distinguishable from his peers. It is actually the same position, merely with a different spin. As soon as you have any scenario other than 1 definitively outstanding Jesus, the literal historical Jesus view collapses, regardless of whether you retain one shrunken Jesus or many of them.

Deflating the historical Jesus as much as Ehrman does, is the same as denying that Jesus existed at all — except Ehrman tried to spin the denial as an affirmation. “I’m not saying Jesus didn’t exist, I’m just saying that he was a generic nobody.” That is, Jesus existed, except that he was completely different than the Jesus we all know, and has nothing in common with him, is rather an anti-Jesus Jesus — a Jesus so essentially unlike the Jesus of the New Testament, the shrunken historical Jesus stands in contrast to the Jesus of the New Testament.

To affirm such a shrunken historical Jesus as Ehrman does, is to agree that the Jesus of the New Testament doesn’t exist; only some *other* Jesus than the New Testament depicts, existed. Ehrman ends up playing misleading tricks with word-meanings. “Jesus[shrunken, historical] existed, therefore we can say that Jesus[of New Testament stories] existed.”

But Ehrman is self-contradictory. If Jesus as a shrunken historical figure existed, then the Jesus *of the New Testament* didn’t exist. Bart gives us some essentially different Jesus, a Jesus who is *not* the Jesus of the New Testament, and then concludes “Thus I have shown that Jesus existed” when actually, Ehrman showed that *that* Jesus, of the New Testament, didn’t exist.


As my theory shows, the ahistoricity of Mr. Jesus is merely the tip of the iceberg. Remove Paul, remove the apostles, remove the church fathers.

Perhaps remove 700-1400 so that 700 A.D. is aka 1400 A.D. per Edwin Johnson. Johnson also has the New Testament being written in 825 aka 1525, not 150 like the other Radical Critics assert (they accept the dating and authorship of the Church Fathers writings — Johnson doesn’t).

Add entheogens as the main source and foundation of Greek, Roman, Jewish, and Christian religions. Add no-free-will, and non-autonomous personal control, as what is revealed in the the power of the altered-state Holy Spirit, per my main article.

Add Ruler Cult directing entheogens toward justifying the domination hierarchy. Add Christianity forming an alternative by directing entheogens instead toward an egalitarian social-political configuration, as I have shown.

My additions produce a mature, adequate, coherent, complete theory of ahistoricity that stands up in the face of various scholars’ work coming from different directions: Richard Horsley, Robert Price, Earl Doherty, Marcus Borg.

— Michael Hoffman, October 29, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 5954 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 30/10/2012
Subject: Re: Bk: Did Jesus Exist? Mainstream Bart Ehrman confronts ahistoric
typo: 12 should be 21
Group: egodeath Message: 5955 From: weloverainydays Date: 30/10/2012
Subject: Does Obama think he is Jesus? Messiah complex?
Obama’s possible messiah complex:


From: “egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com” <egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com>
To: egodeath@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 9:29 PM
Subject: [egodeath] Bk: Did Jesus Exist? Mainstream Bart Ehrman confronts ahistoricity/Jesus myth

 
Did Jesus Exist?: The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth
Bart Ehrman
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0062204602
368 pages
March 20, 2012
HarperOne

The tables have turned: the topic of the ahistoricity of Jesus is now mainstream. The end of the world is surely upon us; I’m suggesting that the end of the world comes in the sense that on December 12, 2012, Mr. Historical Jesus dies. Earl Doherty is planning on writing a book that’s a rebuttal to this book. Several other new books on ahistoricity have come out recently, including another literalist’s rebuttal (and acknowledgement) of the Jesus myth. However, my Egodeath theory is needed, as a finished alternative explanation of religious history and meaning, and the mystic altered state.

I defined and assert the most extreme view: Jesus, the apostles, and Paul, and the church fathers didn’t exist; that is, each of them didn’t exist literally as an identifiable single person (that’s my own original phrase and concept based on my own idea development and research and writing within this field). The historical Jesus is shrinking and disappearing into the multitude of the crowd. Pick how you want to spin it: either there were 0 Jesuses, or multiple Jesuses (a plethora, like having a crowd of Santas come through your fireplace on Christmas). The difficult position to defend is that there was 1 Jesus.

Radical scholars assert there was no Jesus. Liberal scholars (including Bart Ehrman) assert there was a Jesus, but he was an inconsequential nobody, hardly distinguishable from his peers. It is actually the same position, merely with a different spin. As soon as you have any scenario other than 1 definitively outstanding Jesus, the literal historical Jesus view collapses, regardless of whether you retain one shrunken Jesus or many of them.

Deflating the historical Jesus as much as Ehrman does, is the same as denying that Jesus existed at all — except Ehrman tried to spin the denial as an affirmation. “I’m not saying Jesus didn’t exist, I’m just saying that he was a generic nobody.” That is, Jesus existed, except that he was completely different than the Jesus we all know, and has nothing in common with him, is rather an anti-Jesus Jesus — a Jesus so essentially unlike the Jesus of the New Testament, the shrunken historical Jesus stands in contrast to the Jesus of the New Testament.

To affirm such a shrunken historical Jesus as Ehrman does, is to agree that the Jesus of the New Testament doesn’t exist; only some *other* Jesus than the New Testament depicts, existed. Ehrman ends up playing misleading tricks with word-meanings. “Jesus[shrunken, historical] existed, therefore we can say that Jesus[of New Testament stories] existed.”

But Ehrman is self-contradictory. If Jesus as a shrunken historical figure existed, then the Jesus *of the New Testament* didn’t exist. Bart gives us some essentially different Jesus, a Jesus who is *not* the Jesus of the New Testament, and then concludes “Thus I have shown that Jesus existed” when actually, Ehrman showed that *that* Jesus, of the New Testament, didn’t exist.

As my theory shows, the ahistoricity of Mr. Jesus is merely the tip of the iceberg. Remove Paul, remove the apostles, remove the church fathers.

Perhaps remove 700-1400 so that 700 A.D. is aka 1400 A.D. per Edwin Johnson. Johnson also has the New Testament being written in 825 aka 1525, not 150 like the other Radical Critics assert (they accept the dating and authorship of the Church Fathers writings — Johnson doesn’t).

Add entheogens as the main source and foundation of Greek, Roman, Jewish, and Christian religions. Add no-free-will, and non-autonomous personal control, as what is revealed in the the power of the altered-state Holy Spirit, per my main article.

Add Ruler Cult directing entheogens toward justifying the domination hierarchy. Add Christianity forming an alternative by directing entheogens instead toward an egalitarian social-political configuration, as I have shown.

My additions produce a mature, adequate, coherent, complete theory of ahistoricity that stands up in the face of various scholars’ work coming from different directions: Richard Horsley, Robert Price, Earl Doherty, Marcus Borg.

— Michael Hoffman, October 29, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.



Group: egodeath Message: 5956 From: ajnavajra Date: 31/10/2012
Subject: Re: Bk: Did Jesus Exist? another vote for “no”
another nail in the coffin of the historical Jesus story is the great book by Joseph Atwill Caesar’s Messiah, :

*Christianity did not originate among the lower classes in Judea. It was a creation of a Roman imperial family, the Flavians
*The Gospels were not written by the followers of a Jewish messiah but by the intellectual circle surrounding the three Flavian emperors, Vespasian and is two sons Titus and Domitian
*The Gospels were written following the 66-73 C.E. war between the Romans and the Jews, and many of the events of Jesus’ ministry are satirical depictions of events from that war
*The purpose of Christianity was supersession. It was designed to replace the nationalistic and militaristic messianic movement in Judea wit a religion that ws pacifistic and would accept Roman rule.

One of the main “sources” for the historicity of Jesus was the Jewish historican Josephus. But did you know he was at first pro-Jewish, then reversed himself to become pro-Roman? He so impressed the Roman occupiers under Vespasian (who went on to become the Emperor) that Vespasian adopted Josephus into his family, and he now became Josephus Flavius, and lived at Rome with the royal family!

When Josephus’ Wars of the Jews is read alongside the New Testament as Atwill shows, it decodes the Gospel stories to be events in the life of Titus the son of Vespasian, who took over the war to subjugate the Jews. The Gospels actually glorify Titus by telling his story in disguise, and give us a Jesus who is rather anti-Jewish (“generation of vipers” or Pharisees), who hangs with the “publicans” i.e., the tax-collectors (very pro Roman stance), tells his followers to “render unto Caesar” and to “turn the other cheek.”

The first important “Christians” were of the Flavian family; the even owned the catacombs.
>
Group: egodeath Message: 5957 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 01/11/2012
Subject: Jesus Myth’er Robert Price in mainstream 5-views book
The Historical Jesus: Five Views
James K. Beilby & Paul R. Eddy (Editors)
Robert M. Price
John Dominic Crossan
Luke Timothy Johnson
James Dunn
Darrell Bock
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0830838686
October 2009
312 pages
IVP Academic

Robert Price is first in the book, including the replies from the other, mainstream authors. Price replies to the official mainstream positions of the other authors. This book is significant in that it presents in a mainstream forum the view that Jesus didn’t exist (my definition: The New Testament Jesus is fundamentally a synthetic figure, not a single identifiable historical individual), and provides an occasion for mainstream scholars to acknowledge the existence of this position, and engage with it.

The readers are exposed to this view, and the reviewers engage with this view. The laughter at the Jesus Myth is growing audible now, indicating that awareness of the Jesus Myth view is spreading. I am surprised and impressed how fast the Jesus Myth view has been spreading. “Only people on the Internet believe the Jesus myth.”

I hadn’t heard of the Jesus Myth in 1999, until my card catalog search on “Christianity AND mushroom”, turning up a book that was a rebuttal to Allegro’s book Sacred Mushroom & the Cross. I was dismissive at first, and was only glad to find that someone wrote about the Christianity/mushroom connection that I independently thought of sometime between 1997 and 1999, as I recall. To retrace my history of thinking, I’d have to check my various online discussion group postings, and possibly my daily idea-development notes files.

The Web didn’t exist in 1999 – not like today. It is far easier now to learn about the Jesus Myth, and this myth will be synonymous with the Internet, in that the Internet is not censored and filtered as much as printed materials.

— Michael Hoffman, October 31, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 5958 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 01/11/2012
Subject: Re: Jesus Myth’er Robert Price in mainstream 5-views book
[clarifications]

I was dismissive [of Jesus’ nonexistence] at first, and was only glad to find that someone wrote about the Christianity/mushroom connection that I independently thought of sometime between 1997 and 1999, as I recall. To retrace my history of thinking [about Revelation’s bitter sweet scrolls specifically alluding to mushrooms, and about ahistoricity], I’d have to check my various online discussion group postings, and possibly my daily idea-development notes files.

[A reviewer’s attitude:] “Only people on the Internet believe the Jesus myth.”
—————-

Often, I think of an idea on my own, then research it. I thought of the idea of bitter sweet scrolls in Revelation as mushrooms on my own, then researched it. I didn’t think of Jesus’ nonexistence on my own; I learned the idea when investigating my “mushrooms in the New Testament” idea, which was based on my work back to 1986, almost at the beginning.

I sat on my dorm bed and highlighted Revelation in my King James bible Fall 1986 or Spring 1987, and I seem to remember it being 1989 or so, when I puzzled more over the bitter sweet scrolls in Revelation, in a rural library. As a scroll-like cognitive loosening agent, I only was able to take into consideration acid tabs and Psilocybe mushrooms, around 1986-1989; I don’t think I read any entheogen history (in antiquity) at all until around 1999.
Group: egodeath Message: 5959 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 01/11/2012
Subject: Re: Does Obama think he is Jesus? Messiah complex?
I don’t see how the below could possibly have any connection with the Egodeath theory.

Each posting in this group must be explicitly related to the Egodeath theory — the wide range of topics at Egodeath.com.


— In egodeath@yahoogroups.com, weloverainydays@… wrote:
> Obama’s possible messiah complex:
> http://sixofobamaspsychoticoutburstscaughtonvideo.wordpress.com/2012/10/26/3/
>
> Have you seen this? Any thoughts?
Group: egodeath Message: 5960 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 01/11/2012
Subject: Re: Bk: Did Jesus Exist? another vote for “no”
As I told Atwill at the Jesus Mysteries group, he is on the right track, more than other researchers, by investigating the political context of New Testament origins. I haven’t read his books, but Jesus-Myth researchers should read Richard Horsley’s books, and would do well to read Atwill, to start considering political-type scenarios of the formation of the New Testament and its counter-Caesar, or Caesar-alternative figure, of Jesus.

To understand New Testament Christianity, you must study the social-political religion-leveraging propaganda of the Roman Empire.

— Michael Hoffman, October 31, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 5961 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 01/11/2012
Subject: Cannabis legalization on Washington state ballot
Must be 21. One ounce. ACLU sponsored. That this is on a state ballot is progress. Cannabis is a potentiator.

It is voting time. Ancient Greeks drank mushroom wine per Michael Rinella’s book, and created Democracy, which the inebriated ruling-class revelers beat-up on, leading to courts and “death” for profaning the Mysteries. Political systems sparred, and entheogen-usage formats were involved.

— Michael Hoffman, October 31, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 5962 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 01/11/2012
Subject: Bk: Newberg: Principles of Neurotheology
Principles of Neurotheology (Science and Religion Series)
Andrew B. Newberg
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0754669947
2010

Condensed headings that appear of interest for the Egodeath theory:

1 PRINCIPIA NEUROTHEOLOGICA

2.3 Mind and Brain
2.4 Consciousness

3.1 Interactions Between Science and Religion
3.3 Passion for Inquiry
3.4 Neurotheology and Paradigm Shifts
3.6 Neurotheology as a Metatheology

4 PRINCIPLES OF NEUROTHEOLOGICAL INVESTIGATIONS
4.1 The Principle of Rigor
4.3 Identification of Assumptions
4.4 Neurotheology’s Razor

5 HERMENEUTICS
5.2 Concepts of Willfulness and Surrender
5.3 Wholeness and Fragmentation
5.4 Rationalism, Logic, and Abstract Thought
5.5 Causality in the Brain and in Theology
5.8 Emotions and Feelings in Theology
5.9 Permanence, Change, and Spiritual Transformation

6 METHODS OF NEUROTHEOLOGICAL RESEARCH
6.2 Measurement and Definition of Spirituality and Religiousness
6.2.4 Inducing or Altering Spiritual Phenomena
6.2.5 Neuropathologic and Psychopathologic Spiritual Experiences
6.2.6 Spiritual Experiential Development
6.3.1 Case Studies and Descriptive Analyses
6.5 Science from the Religious Perspective
6.6 Religious Implications of Scientific Studies

7 PHYSIOLOGICAL AND PHENOMENOLOGICAL CORRELATES OF SPIRITUAL PRACTICES
7.1 Understanding Spiritual Experiences and Practices
7.2 What is a Spiritual Experience?
7.3 Methods of Attaining Spiritual Experiences
7.4 Types of Group Ceremonial Rituals
7.5 Phenomenological Aspects of Religious Experience
7.6 Cognitive Neuroscience Assessment of Spiritual Experiences
7.7 Neuropsychological Models of Spiritual Experiences
7.8 Studying Specific Types of Spiritual Experiences
7.9 Isolating the Spiritual from the Neuropsychological

8 NEUROSCIENCE
8.2 Subjective Experience, Consciousness, and Neurotheology
8.4.5.3.10 Multidisciplinary research is challenging

9 THEOLOGY
9.1.7.2 What is the nature of God?
9.1.7.3 What is the nature of good and evil, sin, free will, and virtue?
9.1.7.4 What is the nature of spiritual revelation?
9.1.7.5 Is God immanent in the universe?
9.1.7.6 What is the nature of God’s relationship to human beings?
9.1.7.8 What is the process by which salvation can be attained?
9.2 Brain Functions and the Origins of Theology
9.9 The Brain and the Soul

10 EPISTEMOLOGICAL ISSUES IN NEUROTHEOLOGY
10.2 Primary Epistemic States
10.3 Epistemology and Unitary Reality versus Baseline Reality
Group: egodeath Message: 5963 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 01/11/2012
Subject: Neurosci/Psychol/Relig bk: drugs origin of religion
Neuroscience, Psychology, and Religion: Illusions, Delusions, and Realities about Human Nature
Malcolm Jeeves, Warren S. Brown
http://amazon.com/o/asin/1599471477
2009
168 pages
Templeton Science and Religion Series

p. 92, Section & 1st subsection:
Origins of Religious Experience
…Hallucinogenic Drugs
Group: egodeath Message: 5964 From: egodeath@yahoogroups.com Date: 01/11/2012
Subject: File – EgodeathGroupCharter.txt
The Egodeath Yahoo group is a Weblog sent out by Michael Hoffman,
covering the cybernetic theory of ego death and ego transcendence,
including:

o Block-universe determinism/Fatedness, the closed
and preexisting future, tenseless time, free will as illusory, the
holographic universe, and predestination and Reformed theology.

o Cognitive science, mental construct processing, mental models,
ontological idealism, contemporary metaphysics of the continuant
self, cybernetic self-control, personal control agency, moral agency,
and self-government.

o Zen satori, short-path enlightenment, and Alan Watts;
transpersonal psychology, Ken Wilber, and integral theory.

o Entheogens and psychedelic drugs, mystery religions, mythic
metaphor and allegorical encoding, the mystic altered state, mystic
and religious experiencing, visionary states, religious rapture, and
Acid Rock mysticism.

o Loss of control, self-control seizure, cognitive instability, and
psychosis and schizophrenia.


— Michael Hoffman
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath
http://www.egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 5965 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 02/11/2012
Subject: Bks: Self illus., no-free-will, cog neuroTheol, neoPsych, no-Jesus
These are the books I surveyed on October 31, 2012.
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No-Self, Self as “Illusion” or abstraction or (per the Egodeath theory) dynamic mental construct

The Self Illusion: How the Social Brain Creates Identity
Bruce Hood
http://amazon.com/o/asin/019989759X
May 2012
368 pages
Oxford


The Ego Trick: What Does It Mean to Be You?
Julian Baggini
http://amazon.com/o/asin/1847082734
September 2012
272 pages
Author is the editor and co-founder of The Philosophers’ Magazine. His books include:
Do You Think What You Think YouThink?
What’s It All About? – Philosophy and the Meaning of Life


The Ego and the Dynamic Ground: A Transpersonal Theory of Human Development, 2nd ed.
Michael Washburn
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0791422569
Date 1987 1st ed., 1995 2nd ed.
288 pages


Self Comes to Mind: Constructing the Conscious Brain
Antonio Damasio
http://amazon.com/o/asin/030747495X
2010
416 pages


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Transpersonal Psychology


Revisioning Transpersonal Theory: A Participatory Vision of Human Spirituality
Jorge N. Ferrer
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0791451682
2001 or 2002
273 pages
Suny Series in Transpersonal and Humanistic Psychology
Foreward by Richard Tarnas


Psychology, Religion and Spirituality
David Fontana
http://amazon.com/o/asin/1405108061
2003
272 pages

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No-Free-Will

Free Will
Sam Harris
http://amazon.com/o/asin/1451683405
2012
96 pages
Concise. Popular author;
rank 3,793
rank 72 in Kindle eBooks on “Religion & Spirituality”


Who’s in Charge?: Free Will and the Science of the Brain
Michael S. Gazzaniga
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0061906115
2011
272 pages
I am not at all interested in the brain — Cognitive Phenomenology is the correct relevant level for Egodeath theory.


The Myth of Free Will, 3rd ed.
Cris Evatt
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0970818181
2010
140 pages

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Neurotheology; Cognitive Science and Religious Experiencing


Neuroscience, Psychology, and Religion: Illusions, Delusions, and Realities about Human Nature
Malcolm Jeeves, Warren Brown
http://amazon.com/o/asin/1599471477
2009
168 pages


Cognitive Science, Religion, and Theology: From Human Minds to Divine Minds
Justin Barrett
http://amazon.com/o/asin/159947381X
2011
248 pages


Principles of Neurotheology
Andrew B. Newberg
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0754669947
2010
284 pages
I posted relevant ToC headings recently in a dedicated thread.


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Western Esotericism


Experience of the Inner Worlds
Gareth Knight
http://amazon.com/o/asin/1908011033
1975
244 pages
Respected author. Thought-provoking table of contents, content seems clearly written, intelligibly. He cautions against Eastern religion watering-down Western Esotericism. Jewish & Christianity-heavy broad Western Esotericism. Is this book entheogen-based, as it needs to be?


Star Maps: History, Artistry, and Cartography
Nick Kanas
http://amazon.com/o/asin/1461409160
2007, corrections 2009, also 2012 “2nd ed.”
563 pages
Historical celestial tools, maps, and techniques. Long.
Springer Praxis Books / Popular Astronomy


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No Historical Jesus

Jesus Christ: A Pagan Myth: Evidence That Jesus Never Existed
Shirley Strutton Dalton, Laurence E. Dalton
http://amazon.com/o/asin/1440449333
2008
180 pages
Looks solid, well-read.
My condensed version of publisher’s blurb:
“Religious and ethical beliefs held by the Greco-Roman world and the views held by Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles. The gospels and epistles reflect not Jewish ethics but rather the Stoic ethics of the Greco-Roman pagan world. Similarity between the religion of Paul and the mystery religions of the pagan world. Mark and Paul are anti-Jewish. Jesus is a literary fiction derived from a Greco-Roman pagan environment.”


The Christ (orig. 1909 title)
The Christ Myth: A Critical Review and Analysis of the Evidence of His Existence
John E. Remsberg
http://amazon.com/o/asin/1595479333
1909/2007
328 pages
My condensed version of publisher’s blurb: My wording here is clearer and better:
“The Jesus of Strauss and Renan was a transitional step between orthodox Christianity and radical Freethought. The ultimate step from orthodox Christianity and radical Freethought is the Jesus Myth view. The Jesus of the New Testament must be taken to refer to the Christ of Christianity, who is fundamentally and essentially a supernatural being, not a mundane literal historical individual. Jesus is, like the Christ figure, a myth; Jesus is none other than the Christ myth.”
— rewritten by Michael Hoffman


Proving History: Bayes’s Theorem and the Quest for the Historical Jesus
Richard C. Carrier
http://amazon.com/o/asin/1616145595
2012
340 pages
Jesus might have existed; per my wording, Jesus might have existed as a single, identifiable historical individual that you could locate using a time-travel* machine or time-television. But what is the *chance* of this “might”? Carrier is an important author and he plans to write a book debunking the plausibility of a historical Jesus, based on this preliminary work. Exposes special pleading mathematically (Jesus could have or might have existed, therefore we are justified in holding that he existed.)
*Per Edwin Johnson, you might have to jump back 1300 years, not 2000 years, to arrive at the time of Augustus Caesar.
Author of (partial listing):
Not the Impossible Faith: Why Christianity Didn’t Need a Miracle to Succeed (rebuttal to J.P. Holding’s “The Impossible Faith”)
Chapter in “Sources of the Jesus Tradition: Separating History from Myth”, edited by R. Joseph Hoffmann
Chapter in “The Empty Tomb: Jesus beyond the Grave”, edited by Robert Price and Jeffery Lowder
Chapter in “The End of Christianity”, edited by John W. Loftus


The Christ-Myth Theory and Its Problems
Robert M. Price
http://amazon.com/o/asin/1578840171
2011
427 pages
High-quality. Numerous chapters were published in separate books or journals before. I doubt I’ll read any more Jesus myth books, at least of the type that exist now to make the case. The case was made after reading a stack of these — it’s not difficult; it’s clear-cut and straightforward: per my broad Egodeath theory, a counter-Caesar or Caesar-rebuttal or Caesar-alternative figure was needed and was formulated from all available sources, combining Jesus, pagan, entheogenic, and social-political egalitarian themes — that’s clear, simple, coherent, and unproblematic. Doherty’s revised book makes it (on the surface) appear that the case is so debatable that endless pages are needed.


The Origins of Christianity and the Quest for the Historical Jesus Christ
Acharya S aka D.M. Murdock
http://amazon.com/o/asin/B004KZOS22
ebook
2011
60 pages
The argument from Astrotheology myths; from the lens of the theory that the ultimate referent of myth is the literal celestial realm. She’s aware of entheogen theory, but it’s not her area. Freke & Gandy are more informed about entheogen theory and they wanted to include it more explicitly in their book The Jesus Mysteries, but their publisher strategically omitted or prevented that coverage.


The Electric Jesus: The Healing Journey of a Contemporary Gnostic
Jonathan Talat Phillips
http://amazon.com/o/asin/1583943161
2011
240 pages
Introduction by Graham Hancock
Mainstream “underground”/”alternative” thought. Gnosticism. Ayahuasca. Not awesome, not bad, quick read. Blurbs by Alex Grey, Richard Smoley, Gary Lachman.
Condensed publisher blurb:
“his own Christian background, rites of the mystery schools. electric meanings behind biblical symbols: serpent, dove, tree of life … early Christians used initiation for harnessing divine energy to achieve gnosis: knowledge or experience of the divine. … these mystical symbols appear across spiritual traditions and offer a map and alchemical message for personal transformation, and an evolutionary shift … a counterculture that recognizes humanity’s visionary potential and takes steps to realize it.”

I propose our evolutionary potential is to realize (as Gnostics and everyone in antiquity thought) there’s no free will in the world, our personal power of operating on self-control is illusory, and people who haven’t been immersed repeatedly in loose cognition are to be considered as children (undeveloped). Incidentally as a footnote, the New Testament is entirely fiction (including Jesus and Paul), based on psychoactive mushrooms (just like all Roman Empire culture) used to justify an egalitarian social-political system, per my Egodeath theory. — Michael Hoffman


Nailed: Ten Christian Myths That Show Jesus Never Existed at All
David Fitzgerald
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0557709911
2010
248 pages
Good idea for organization. Supposed to be a highly readable, clear, accessible summary, and contributes additional arguments. Blurbs by major authors in the field: Carrier, Zindler, Price, Doherty.

Organized by the 10 universally known facts about how we know Jesus existed:

o The idea that Jesus was a myth is ridiculous.
o Jesus was wildly famous.
o Ancient historian Josephus wrote about Jesus.
o Eyewitnesses wrote the Gospels.
o The Gospels give a consistent picture of Jesus.
o History confirms the Gospels.
o Archeology confirms the Gospels.
o Paul’s letters corroborate the Gospels.
o Christanity began with Jesus and his apostles.
o Christianity was totally new and different.

Conclusion: Can Jesus be Saved?

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Consciousness Studies aka Psychedelics

The Psychedelic Renaissance: Reassessing the Role of Psychedelic Drugs in 21st Century Psychiatry and Society
Ben Sessa
http://amazon.com/o/asin/1908995009
2012
237 pages
Foreward by Rick Doblin
Chapter and subsections:

The Ancient History of Hallucinogens
….The Birth of Religion
….Many Religions Can Trace Their Roots to Psychedelic Drugs [“all bona fide” -mh]
….Psychedelic Drugs at the Heart of Christianity

The Psychedelic Renaissance: Movers and Shakers
MAPS, CSP, Erowid, Reality Sandwich, Psychedelic Spirituality Forum, Students for Sensible Drug Policy, Some Important Contemporary Psychedelic Researchers

War [on Drugs] is a money spinner. But for Whom?
Evidence-based Decriminalisation and Temple Balls
The Socio-political Agenda on Drugs has a Deleterious Effect on Medical Research
Demonization of Prohibition
Recreational Drug Use for Psycho-spiritual Growth [as I have commented on; Led Zeppelin: “I only wanted to have some fun” in a mystic religious song In My Day of Dying. Banqueting in Antiquity was precisely and explicitly *recreational religious experiencing*. — Michael Hoffman]
Psychiatry Needs Psychedelics, and Psychedelics Needs Psychiatry
The Problem with the Recreational Use of Psychedelics
Resolution of These Problems

I expected a major snoozer that no one would read, trying to posture and look as hyper-straight and staid and dry as possible, trying to impress people that are hopelessly fearful and rigid so that there’s no point in writing such a book. Hyperstraight books: real, sane heads can’t stand reading them (too heavily self-censored, a sort of B.S.-by-omission), and uptight establishment types or collaborationists wouldn’t read them either, books enjoyable and appealing to no one. Not sure which specific books are so dessicated; I have books that I think of that way, perhaps not actually read yet. I’ve read this material many times; reading such a book amounts to a needle-in-haystack looking for an angle, style, or point that’s distinctive, merely registering in my mind what angle the author uses, not actually gaining any content/information. What’s *this* author’s scope, audience, style?

Marsh Chapel — my god, are we stuck there forever, in Marsh Chapel, stuck for eternity in our Hell of unending research limitation? Can we never move past that, for God’s sake? Bust out of Marsh Chapel! It is our 8th Sphere, of Heimarmene-ruled Saturn and the sphere of the fixed stars, we must punch through, get past the demiurgic gatekeeper who demands the sacrifice of our beloved youth as the price of passage at last into the higher heavens. -mh

This is largely a history book, including the author’s. “The summer of 1988 was dubbed the ‘second summer of love’.”

“anxiety-provoking to the extreme. Feelings of panic and loss of control can overwhelm”

My condensed version of publisher’s blurb: my emphasis added:
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“Psychedelics can do for psychiatry what the *microscope* did for biology and the *telescope* to astronomy; they can be used to *access the depths of the psyche*. They hold great promise for treating a number of medical conditions, and they provide access to *religious experiencing*.

Argues for the re-evaluation of psychedelics – LSD, MDMA, DMT, psilocybin, ayahuasca, peyote, ibogaine, and more. Their potential for treating post-traumatic stress disorder, depression, autism, and cluster headaches. Evidence corrects misconceptions about psychedelics.

Calls for their therapeutic use, with set and setting, in psychotherapy, psychiatry and *personal growth*.
What are the drugs and why are they so controversial?
How should they be safely and wisely used?
What is the nature of the psychedelic experience?
What are the implications for psychiatry and for *psycho-spiritual growth*?

With clarity and wit, the author surveys the contributions of Huxley, Hofmann, Sandison, Leary, Grof, and McKenna. History of psychedelic plants and chemicals. The crucial role such drugs have had in human culture from prehistory to modern times.

He worked alongside Professor David Nutt at Bristol and Imperial universities as part of the growing research into therapeutic applications for psilocybin. Possibilities for therapy and neuroscientific research afforded by psychedelics, to improve the depth of psychotherapy for trauma patients.”
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Exploring the Edge Realms of Consciousness: Liminal Zones, Psychic Science, and the Hidden Dimensions of the Mind
Daniel Pinchbeck & Ken Jordan (editors)
http://amazon.com/o/asin/1583944885
September 2012
384 pages
I would be extremely selective, most likely, in reading this diverse assortment of pieces by different authors, such as:
Super Free Will: Metaprogramming and the Quantum Observer – Paul Hughes
My research and idea-development requires a balance of being overcritical and open-minded, in choosing what is most worth reading, skimming, or glancing at: high priority? relatively low priority? What’s the real signal-noise ratio here, compared to other pages? What will it do for my theory, bouncing my ideas off of these, compared to other pages? I no longer read anything except works that are informed by my own; works that are not informed by my work are no longer worth my time. They need to be reading me, not vice-versa.


The New Science of Psychedelics: At the Nexus of Culture, Consciousness, and Spirituality
David Jay Brown
http://amazon.com/o/asin/1594774927
Projected: April 2013
384 pages
Park Street Press
I have stronger reservations here than with Pinchbeck’s compilation. People would be better off learning my Egodeath theory, before running to far-out, disjointed subjects to get their stimulation and elevation. My feelings triggered: newage, airhead, fantasy, escapism, tittilating trite forbidden topics, trendy, faddish, pulp rags, pop-psych junk candy, non-serious entertainment. Is Western Esotericism any different than trendy cyberpunk psychedelics? Oh wait – cyberpunk was *last* year. My purpose isn’t to delegitimate these topics, but to have a strong sense of relevance, and priority, in *understanding* the loosecog state and its cultural history: first things first. My work benefits people more than this; it is solid and coherent, systematic, encompassing (compact yet broad ramifications across fields) and is timelessly relevant — it is straight-up and inherently interesting, not trendy, not gilded, not sensationalized.

Condensed blurb:
“Presents the revelations brought about through his psychedelic experiences and his work with visionaries of the psychedelic and scientific communities.
His discussions with
Andrew Weil
Jerry Garcia
Albert Hofmann
Annie Sprinkle
Terence McKenna
Edgar Mitchell
Rupert Sheldrake
Deepak Chopra
Candace Pert

Role of psychedelics in:
lucid dreaming
s*x and pleasure enhancement
morphic field theory
encounters with nonhuman beings
the interface between science and spirituality
time travel
the survival of consciousness after death
encounters with nonhuman beings

For as long as humanity has existed, we have used psychedelics — visionary plants such as cannabis … now LSD and MDMA. These have inspired spiritual awakenings, artistic and literary works, technological and scientific innovation, and political revolutions.

psychedelics incite creativity, neurogenesis, and the evolution of consciousness.
They are messengers to elevate our awareness and sense of interconnectedness.
They are preparing humanity for a future of enlightened minds and worlds beyond our solar system.”

Condensed author info:
“author of 8 other books about the future of science and consciousness, including four bestselling volumes of interviews with leading-edge thinkers, Mavericks of the Mind, Voices from the Edge, Conversations on the Edge of the Apocalypse, and Mavericks of Medicine. master’s degree in psychobiology. neuroscience researcher in learning and memory. was responsible for the California-based research in two of British biologist Rupert Sheldrake’s books on unexplained phenomena in science. His work has appeared in Scientific American, Discover, and Wired, and he is periodically the Guest Editor of the MAPS Bulletin. http://www.mavericksofthemind.com

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Education

The End of Education: Redefining the Value of School
Neil Postman
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0679750312
1995
209 pages

Per my Theory, school teaches the Egodeath theory, initiation, history of religion, interpretation of mythic metaphor. Existential authenticity and freedom. Time management (defensive, negative; focus and choosing as infinite negative commitment). Cross-time self-control games, acedia, procrastination, intention-override across time, impulse reactivity and impulse-control, obligation resistance, disruptive effects of idealistic expectations about transcendent control of the mind. Control beyond control; transcendent circularity of control-power. Problems of cross-time self-control. Dynamics of alcoholism and controlaholism, and how these can lead to metaphysical enlightenment about origins of personal control-thoughts across time. That’s the curriculum I designed a few years into university.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com, November 1, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 5966 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 02/11/2012
Subject: Re: Bks: Self illus., no-free-will, cog neuroTheol, neoPsych, no-Jes
[typo correction]
per my broad Egodeath theory, a counter-Caesar or Caesar-rebuttal or Caesar-alternative figure was needed and was formulated from all available sources, combining [Jewish], pagan, entheogenic, and social-political egalitarian themes — that’s clear, simple, coherent, and unproblematic.


[clarifications]
The ultimate step from orthodox Christianity [into] radical Freethought is the Jesus Myth view.


I propose [that our current passageway we must pass through on our way to] our evolutionary potential is to realize (as Gnostics and everyone in antiquity thought) there’s no free will in the world, our personal power of operating on self-control is illusory, and people who haven’t been immersed repeatedly in loose cognition are to be considered as children (undeveloped). Incidentally as a footnote, the New Testament is entirely fiction (including Jesus and Paul), based on psychoactive mushrooms (just like all Roman Empire culture) used to justify an egalitarian social-political system, per my Egodeath theory. — Michael Hoffman


I placed this book in the No-Jesus group, but maybe need to move it to a “Neo-Cyber-Psychedelic Random Claptrap Newage” category, with Pinchbeck and David Jay Brown:

The Electric Jesus: The Healing Journey of a Contemporary Gnostic
Jonathan Talat Phillips
Group: egodeath Message: 5967 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 02/11/2012
Subject: The Cybernetic Theory of Mythic Metaphor
The primary, ultimate referent of myth-metaphor is: the revealing of no-free-will and personal non-control by entheogens.


The primary, ultimate referent of myth-metaphor is not entheogens. Carl Ruck is wrong: too narrow and too physicalistic, not cognitive-phenomenological enough.

The primary referent of myth-metaphor is not any physical object such as celestial objects. Acharya S is wrong. She mistakes a secondary referent, or a source of mythic symbols, as the primary, ultimate referent.

The primary referent of myth-metaphor is not any ordinary-state life development. Joseph Campbell is wrong. Jung is fairly wrong.

The primary referent of myth-metaphor is not dreams. Joseph Campbell is wrong. Jung is fairly wrong.

— Michael Hoffman, November 2, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 5968 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 03/11/2012
Subject: Garden of Hesperides’ guardian snake, branch, hydra, forked tongue,
This post contains some new ideas and realizations (connections) of mine that are extensions of my previous mytheme decipherings. I identify which aspects of the insights are new for today.

Understanding is not a simple binary, going from not understanding to understanding. Understanding is a matter of degrees or percentage of connections that you map or make or figure out. Lack of understanding amounts to having very few connections between the key ideas. High degree of understanding and insight amounts to a large number and percentage of the potential connections between ideas.

I typically experience a series of insights or breakthroughs about a given topic, over days, weeks, months, and years, as my number of connections of themes or ideas increases in bursts. For example, my late 1987 notebooks have some increasing, but limited, ideas about non-control or no-free-will, and then at the start of 1988, a widespread reorganization of related ideas.


I figured out the heimarmene-snake during the 00s, years ago, and I figured out the snake-and-tree around Fall 2011. See my postings for both. Today I figured out further extensions of those decipherings of myth in terms of the Cybernetic Theory of Mythic Metaphor; in terms of no-free-will & personal non-control of thoughts and actions, as revealed by entheogens.

Carl Ruck didn’t figure this out, because his focus is too limited to entheogens, and religious philosophy regarding self-control is not his area of expertise.


One of my first sudden mytheme connections today was the following (verbatim from my note file):
tree in myth — “turned into a tree”, or “serpent in tree” Hesperides golden apples of apollo tree

I accidentally figured this out when reflecting upon “What’s the nature and scope of my 1986 intended achievement and my 1988 core Theory? Did I think of it as “I’m figuring out the meaning of Religion and myth”?”

In 1986 I was chasing and trying to create transcendent control of the mind.
In 1988 instead I discovered the Crystalline Ground of Being model and its ramifications for personal non-control, as revealed in loose cognition and mental model transformation: it was a new theory of ego transcendence: what it amounts to and involves and entails.

The resulting 1988 core Theory was a STEM-type theory of our ability to control our mind; it was not per se a “theory and explanation of religion” or of specific religions. It was a correction and rational re-construction of the theories of Ken Wilber and Alan Watts: it was more of a theory of “What is enlightenment?” than a theory of “What is the meaning of the religions?” My 1988-1997 summary uploaded to Principia Cybernetica site incorporated or explained ideas from religions.

My peripheral Theory-extension of 1999-2007, with additions in 2011 and 2012, I would describe as a theory that explains the religions.

(STEM = Science, Technology, Engineering, Math)

The 1988 core Theory is more a theory of enlightenment, ego transcendence, and transcendent knowledge. (Main breakthrough January 11, 1988)
The 2001 peripheral Theory extension is more a theory of religion or religions, including myth, metaphor, and history. (Main breakthrough November 12, 2001)


When I was thinking about that distinction today, my mind turned toward the snake-and-tree, which came to me near the November 2011 andro-gyne breakthrough. Then I seemed to dimly remember the tree of Hesperides, and today I strained to remember: is that tree guarded by a snake? The following connections poured out as I read about Hesperides.

When you hold a branch, you are holding a symbol of free will versus determinism. A rod is a line made from a branch. A hydra is a branch made from a line.

A mushroom tree that has cut-off branches at the ring conveys the idea of “illusion of variability, truth of predestined single path”. I think I pointed that out around November 2011, “Our decisions are like: A tree with no real branches!?”


Mytheme Clusters Confirm My Cybernetic Theory of Myth

This finding today, a cluster of themes of snake, immortality-entheogen, guardian, blameless, and spring in cave, amounts to a field-appropriate type of scientific “prediction and confirmation of a theory”. My Cybernetic theory of myth today got further corroboration.

I reject Popper’s theory of science, that science is prediction; I condemn that as “predictionism” — there is no justification for equating the scientific method with prediction. Prediction is overstated; prediction-then-confirmation doesn’t play that big a role in actual, real-world science. Prediction and confirmation, or corroboration, is good — but it’s not what makes a theory scientific. In any case, “confirmation by verified prediction” in the field of myth theory amounts to finding themes combined in clusters.

My Cybernetic theory of myth predicts and continues to be validated by indeed finding, clustered mythemes about the following. These same elements appear in the Garden of Hesperides and the Garden of Eden:
o Guilt, blame, blamelessness, innocence
o Entheogens
o Immortal, mortals, athanatos (become non-dying)
o No-free-will; predestined to do, or predestined to not do
o Predestined to encounter and ingest the entheogen, predestined to not encounter and ingest the entheogen
o Snake and tree, branches
o Guardian of access to the garden; gatekeeper


The hydra is a branch-snake, branching-snake. It is a line made into a branching.
Snakes indicate Heimarmene fatedness lines. (~2003 posting?)
Branches indicate illusory choice-ability, variability, personal control over destiny. (2011)

The snake is shaped like a monocoursal labyrinth (~2003?), but ironically, the snake has a fork, a forked tongue (new point Nov. 2, 2012). The snake is a wise teacher about the subject of free will and Heimarmene (fatedness, unchangeability).

A hydra is a serpent/snake that has a body that forks into multiple heads. (new point Nov. 2, 2012)

Ironically, the non-forking snake has a forked tongue, and the hydra is a forking snake.

The dragon or serpent under Michael the Archangel might have a forked tongue.

In my ink drawing around 1996, is a snake with forked tongue extending outside of the 4-dimensional crystalline ground of being, saying “Liberty!”


ivy vs. tree: ivy emphasizes a non-branching line, tree emphasizes branching.
snake vs. hydra: snake emphasizes a non-branching line, hydra emphasizes branching.


Hera’s Garden of the Hesperides contains a tree or grove of trees, on which immortality-giving golden apples grow.

Hera and Zeus were wedded (male thought-injector, female thought-receiver). A wedding gift from Gaia was fruited branches (branch structure vs. line/rod, and new-life themes). The branches were planted, producing the golden apples. The Hesperides (nymphs) were supposed to tend the grove, but ate from it, so Hera put in the garden a never-sleeping Heimarmene-snake hydra, a hundred-headed dragon [forked-line] named Ladon, to guard or gate-keep the entheogens.

The Garden of the Hesperides is beyond the mortal world, inaccessible to mortals (non-initiates, who haven’t experienced ego-death). The gods (like initiates, who are a-thanatos) got their immortality by ingesting entheogens from this garden.

Heracles sits in ecstasy or bliss in the Gardens of the Hesperides, attended by the nymphs.

Heracles meets Antaeus, son of Gaia, who was invincible as long as he touched his mother, the earth. Heracles steals the golden apples.


“guarded”, “gatekeeper”, “forbidden to mortals”, “not permitted”

New point or idea Nov. 2, 2012:
The hydra heimarmene-snake is the guardian of the entheogen in the immortals-only garden of the Hesperides. Heimarmene is a gatekeeper that controls who is permitted (indeed, forced) to access and ingest the entheogen and thereby become or be athanatos — no longer dying, having died ego-death upon ingesting the entheogen.

Around 2006 (confirm year), I thought of the idea — I figured out — that the snake approaching the entheogen means that the initiate is predestined to encounter and ingest the entheogen. Nov. 2, 2012, I add the theme of the Heimarmene-snake as *guardian* of the entheogen.

2006 (confirm) idea: If Isis leads you on the road through the labyrinth of life (Luther H. Martin’s book) to the entheogen, Isis predestined and caused you — forced you — to encounter and ingest the entheogen.

Nov. 2, 2012 idea: If Isis doesn’t lead you on the road to the entheogen, then you are “not permitted to” ingest the entheogen; it is “not lawful” for you; you are “forbidden” and “prevented” by Heimarmene (fate, destiny). Per my 2006-era posts: You are and remain (so far) a mortal: you still live in the form of an illusory ego, and so you still have the ability to die ego death; you are subject still to thanatos (death). You have not yet attained the perfected/completed initiate’s state of no longer being liable to undergo ego death, because your mind has learned to think non-egoically.

Heracles slew Ladon, the guardian hydra, leaving the entheogens unguarded, no longer guarded by the Heimarmene-snake.

Access to the entheogen that confers immortality (athanatos, non-dying) is guarded by Heimarmene, as an ironically branch-headed line-shaped serpent. The only people who can go to the garden to ingest the entheogen are those who have been predestined to do so (they have no ability to avoid it).

There are two races or groups of people: those permitted/predestined to go to Garden of Heaven vs. those predestined not to. Entheogens are prohibited by Heimarmene to be used by those who are predestined not to access entheogens, but the gatekeeper Heimarmene-snake permits (that is, forces) those who are predestined, to pass into the garden and tree, to access entheogens.

If you ingest an entheogen, the entheogen reveals that God made you ingest the entheogen. Anyone who ingests an entheogen is following God’s law, inalterably compelled by His forceful command.

Writers always make the mistake of conflating ‘man’ and ‘mortal’. ‘Mortal’ doesn’t mean human. ‘Mortal’ in religio-myth refers to the non-initiate; people who haven’t experienced egodeath via entheogens. After you experience egodeath via entheogens (multiple times), you become athanatos — non-dying, immortal, having eternal life, unending life.

The entheogen in the garden cannot be accessed by mortals — that is, by those who are not predestined to ingest entheogens. The garden belongs to the realm of the initiates, the heroes, the divinized, made immortal.

The entheogen is forbidden to non-destined people; mortals. The hero steals the fruit, against the snake’s effort; or, the mortal eats the fruit, persuaded by the snake. In either case, the key mythemes are present, which is what matters: morality, guilt, trespass into the realm of the gods, law, prevention/gatekeeping, entheogen, knowledge of no-free-will, immortality. Inversion is common with mythemes; the important thing is the presence of the themes.

For example, ingesting the entheogen gives you god-like free will and genuine guilt, at the start of the Book, and produces the reverse effect at the end of the Book (that’s one of my original ideas and discoveries from a few years ago, as the successful modern decipherer of religious myth).


“removing guilt”, “blameless”:

Elsewhere in Greek myth, the Hydra’s lair is the spring of Amymone (which means the *blameless* one). The hydra’s lair is a spring which is a deep cave. Per my Egodeath theory, the spring in the cave is a standard mytheme that refers to the source of thoughts, which arise uncontrollably in the mind.

The apple is the source of the gods’ immorality. Heracles’ labor or task, of stealing the entheogen, is for the purpose of *absolving his guilt* over the death of his family. The entheogen reveals personal non-control of our thoughts, and no-free-will, and thus, God is to blame (or praise) for everything that happens; our own apparent moral guilt and culpability is cancelled out as being as illusory as free will. To eat of Jesus’ flesh is to recognize God’s lordship and our own creatureliness, thus we see the truth and our moral sins, our attributions, are transferred from ourselves to God, so God is rightly punished rather than us (that deciphering is one of my original discoveries, years ago).


Eve = nymphs (the Hesperides)


The Rush album Caress of Steel has a snake near the wizard inside, and a wiggling tree (roots) on the back cover.

The Matrix movies have threatening hydra-shaped machines, and branching tunnels/labyrinths.

— Michael Hoffman, November 2, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 5969 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 03/11/2012
Subject: Re: Garden of Hesperides’ guardian snake, branch, hydra, forked tong
[clarifications]

My 1988-1997 summary uploaded to Principia Cybernetica site incorporated or explained ideas from religions [but it was more a theory of enlightenment and what’s revealed, than a theory of specific religions].

[The non-initiate has] not yet attained the perfected/completed initiate’s state of no longer being liable to undergo ego death[. The initiate is immune to ego death], because [the initiate’s] mind has learned to think non-egoically.

To eat of Jesus’ [entheogenic] flesh is to recognize God’s lordship and our own creatureliness, thus we see the truth [about the illusory nature of our moral culpability] and [therefore logically in our mental model,] our moral sins, our attributions, are transferred from ourselves to God, so God is rightly punished rather than us (that deciphering is one of my original discoveries, years ago).
Group: egodeath Message: 5970 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 03/11/2012
Subject: Re: Garden of Hesperides’ guardian snake, branch, hydra, forked tong
> To eat of Jesus’ [entheogenic] flesh is to recognize God’s lordship and our own creatureliness

That is standard Theology jargon.

lordship = controllership, sovereign sole power, puppetmaster-like

creatureliness = God-controlled, helpless, subject, puppet-like
Group: egodeath Message: 5971 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 03/11/2012
Subject: Re: Intellectual autobiography & origins of Egodeath theory
This is the best intellectual autobiography material I’ve written. I’m glad and relieved to have figured it out. This is a breakthrough, regarding reconstructing the motivating origins that drove my creation of the core Theory during 1985-1988. Any further work that I do in analyzing, characterizing, or building on my work in the thought-style of my 1986 thinking, will merely be details within this framework. I have virtually, in essence, figured out what is in my lost 1986 blank books, which are my first writings towards the Egodeath theory. I am now able to read, with surprise, my extant 1986 notes, to further deepen my reconstruction and memory of that situation and way of thinking.


The 1986-era origin and motivation of my Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence was to end the violating of my own intentions across time, intentions to get As and Bs each semester. I expected to, and would sacrifice a little classwork time now, to put an end to my being steered and controlled by my egoic, out-of-control feelings and impulses of reluctance and sudden desires. I felt bad and conflicted though also enthusiastic and highly optimistic during my series of university courses.

My motivation to work on what would become the Theory, in 1986, was: no longer violate my own intentions at a later point in time; enjoy doing the planned (intended) activities (mainly classwork); don’t be subject to feeling reluctance to do the intended activities; don’t be subject to feeling impulsive enthusiasms and then accepting those as overriding the intended plans.

I did make the honor society by getting high grades. Then things got intense and strange and tragic as my father died while I switched into high gear on this effort in Spring 1987, and then switched to a surprising direction after the Spring 1988 breakthrough, at which time I took a wholly different attitude toward my existing intentions of getting grades in those classes.

So I was still in the honor society on this side of the great divide of January 1988, but now had a distanced, semi-decommitted stance from my same-old major, and some additional bad grades from 1987 but a new profound clear theory, a new conceptual system of what ego transcendence is about, that was my true calling. Getting As and Bs in a STEM major was my intention, and that was to remain my intention, but now (1988) it is a different world, with new values that actually make sense, and I have found my calling and purpose in which I have made my breakthrough.

I have found where my potential fits and rightly contributes, a worthwhile new field and paradigm I created. I never succeeded at securing the kind of transcendent control of the mind I so entirely desired and expected in 1986 in my youthful, sophomoric, idealistic, hyper-optimistic, pre-enlightenment state. My manic vision was doomed, or at least it fell by the wayside when I came upon this all-important different model.


My 1986 vision that then motivated me: “What a joy it will be to do this meaningless frivolous STEM classwork while having transcendent rational control of my thinking! No more self-conflict across time! Release from self-violation! No more control dis-integrity, starting now! The rest of my life will be smooth easy flow, as it should be for everyone! No more lack of wellbeing, needless stress, needless dysfunctional self-creation of conflict in my life!

I now shall have, from here on out, thanks to my unintended few months of learning enlightenment about self and control, a plain, enjoyable life, not pushed and pulled by impulsive sudden desires or futile attempting to compel myself by reluctance. I now shall have transcendent, coherent, rational control of my thinking. It will be great, as it should be, starting with tonight! … And I have (in fact) another super-interesting transcendent thought, before I turn my attention to this classwork and then simply execute on this way of thinking, from here on out: …”

When I threw away my blank books 1-5 around March 1987, I meant it as a celebratory marking of my completion of fixing my thinking, so that I would no longer be self-obstructing. I would discard my earlier impulsive self-violation (deviation from my planned activities) and I would discard my more recent addiction, trap, or compulsive meta-reflection; I would no longer compulsively analyze and model my self-control integrity problem. Finally, in time to save my grades and integrity this semester, I would be free of that controlaholism and the self-control dysfunction that plagues me (and other, normal people).

As if that’s not enough to deal with, my father is dying, as if I had time to think about that. (He died April 1987, closely related to how Ken Wilber’s wife Treya died. Transpersonal Psychology = death.)


All during 1986-1987, I really did have transcendent, profound, insightful thoughts (about mental constructs, self-control) that went beyond the books of 1986, and I knew it. That made it even more difficult than 1983-1985, to focus on my classwork. Lay out textbooks and pencil in a quiet room, then a profound thought pulls my mind upward yet again… as the low scores come in, month after month. But I am only one thought away, today, from the big breakthrough and posi-control from here on out! That situation continued from January 1986 through May 1987. I got some good grades. I got some bad grades.

Very sadly, tragically, and disappointingly, I never did get the expected posi-control across time. That was a shattered and then a forgotten dream. It remained a struggle to consistently do classwork, in the changed circumstances or perspective of 1988. The tragedy of failing to get posi-control was a failure of who I was, in 1986; and there was a tragedy of grades and of my father dying Spring 1987.

But those grades were due to my making huge amazing advances, switching into high gear of transcendent idea development, leading to the greatest modern breakthrough of anyone, ever, after building on that foundation, at the start of 1988. So a soundtrack song of 1988, after gut-punch grades (a sacrifice) and father dying (who did much to get me started and put me at the leading edge of thought), is “Baby You’re a Rich Man”. Epic bittersweet anguish. Deep failure and frustration and the worst possible tragedy, at the same time as greatest victory, fulfillment, validation, and reward: self-realization and self-transcendence, I reached my potential.

What a head-f*ck time it was, what a long, strange trip it’s been. I Am Triumphant — my father didn’t survive — my dreams were shattered and abandoned — my youthful self is nullified by logic, lost to Hades’ realm. Now (1988) I have to figure out my major, do my advanced classwork, and at the same time, write-up my new theory of ego transcendence, and, I am compulsively doing research in electric guitar processing, which relates however to classes. And I am pledging the fraternity I’ve been going to since High School.


It has taken a lot of persistent hammering and self-hypnosis to recall the mentality that plagued and assaulted me relentlessly during October 1985 to March 1987 (and beyond, then changing directions sharply upon the January 1988 breakthrough about frozen pre-set noncontrol). In 1986, particularly January 1986 through May 1987, I was stuck, trapped, and addicted to a particular, distinctive frenzied chase of high ideas about the mind and personal self-control, in the course of self-management each semester.

I am glad and elated that, even without my 1986 blank books 1-5 notebooks, I have managed to travel back to get back into the motivating mindset and situation of 1986, as well as the necessary lead-up years before it, and the 1988 follow-through which had a sort of discontinuous change of direction. In a way, in January 1988, I dropped, abandoned, and forgot — and maybe suppressed as a trauma — my 1986 zealous, sometimes desperate and sacrificial, quest. I never had the chance to follow through on some of those ideas as such, because in 1988 I suddenly received a different focus or way of thinking.

I never really reached closure and reviewed exactly what my 1986 effort-become-unintended-project amounted to. Yes, I continued struggling for practical cross-time self-control in 1988, but then, writing-up the Theory as a new awesome theory of what ego transcendence actually is about and entails, took up my focus. So I didn’t have a full opportunity to go back and correct and finish-up and resolve my 1986 thinking, or grasping, as such (in its own terms).


Motivation = from bad state, to good state, with ability to change

My high motivation to study and correct my thinking required that I felt I was in a relatively bad mental situation, and that I was potentially and should and could be in a very desirable, successful, enjoyable mental situation, and that I had the means or ability to figure out and repair my thinking. A vector of actual change must go from a low undesirable state to a high desirable state with an ability to move. I was sitting in an undesirable state, I saw and expected a desirable state, and I believed and experienced that I had the ability to observe, model, and repair my thinking.

That is the combination of pain and pleasure and can-do attitude from which the semi-unintended, semi-surprising Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence was discovered and constructed, in my frenzied manic high-stakes activity of October 1985-January 1988.

Most students, including my friends/roommates/bandmates/peers who were generally similar to me, left the programme. They abandoned the intention to get good grades in these classes, entirely. A minority stuck with it to the bloody end (crazy hyper-techie enthusiasts who already knew the material, compliant passive unimaginative conformists, and foreign students who had no choice): being in this programme and intending and committing to getting passing grades or good grades. As ever, I was different. To me, grades never had much value; I had a mentality of transcendent aloof superiority, didn’t take much notice of grades.

I was more focused on grades as merely an indicator of what I really cared about: enjoyment of doing classwork, and having consistent integrity of self-control and causal, while using minimalist time-management. Deluded or not, my attitude of being a student was always “I’m smarter than my mere valedictorian peers; *as long as I deign to focus on the classwork* (the big “if”), I should be able to easily keep up with them without feeling like I’m trying hard.” I probably didn’t *permit* myself to think “this content is difficult” — that wasn’t in my mental vocabulary. But I often had or experienced a big struggle against myself: a struggle to focus on and spend the time on the classwork, consistently.

Perhaps I always laughed and disbelieved I’m as smart or smarter than my achiever peers. I always felt like it was just an act, a bluff, a conventional role: “the super-smart guy”. I was merely good at playing the part, psyching-out the test; I was good at guessing the answer based on my limited, patchy studying. By a dishonest selectivity, I can list facts about my achievements that prove impressively what an accomplished genius I am. On the other hand, inversely, I could list things about my life to show what a stupid, hopeless loser and poser I am.

For example, in Spring 1988, I got the highest test score the Physics professor ever saw on the Relativity exam (and without cheating) — but the circumstances are painful, frustrating, and humiliating (tangled up with my father’s death and struggles with grades). Struggles with the course content? Unthinkable. Struggles with controlling my mind and actions across time? Formidable.

Spring 1988, I realized that my calling, the area where my genius and potential is rightly applied, is in this higher layer of thinking, that developed while trying in 1986 to finally put an end to the dysfunctional struggle against myself across time. In 1986, I was entirely and only concerned (officially) with classwork, and had an unfortunately necessary side-project of trying to finally get transcendent control of the mind. By 1988, my classwork was fully recognized as trite and mundane, beneath my potential.

It’s not that my attitude or valuation of the STEM programme changed; I never was particularly enthusiastic or identified with the conventional STEM programme. It’s not bad, but my area is More than that; higher, newer, more fundamentally innovative — transcendent, applying STEM to the personal mind and its operation. In 1988, I discovered and created a higher, new field; I found the field that you could say I was lacking and missing and looking for in 1986. The field I created from within the STEM programme is a kind of Cognitive Science but with a focus on loose cognition and mental model transformation regarding cross-time self-control dynamics.

I was doing Cognitive Science and metaprogramming of the mind, as a scientist and engineer. Among the courses I had taken, I liked Interpersonal Communication and I particularly related to General Semantics, Control Systems, and the Relativity portion of Modern Physics. In 1988 I found Godel Escher Bach, and the High Frontiers/Reality Hacker zine.

Therefore in Spring 1988, happy with having found and created a new field where I am at home, worthy of my potential (per Maslow), I decided to leave my previous intention completely, not get any grades in these classes in my programme, and change to a major that is relevant to the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence (which includes mental construct processing, self-control across time, mental constructs, reconceptualizing the self as controller, enlightenment as mental model transformation, and loose cognition).

I considered the majors of Religion, Philosophy, Psychology, and Computer Science. I decided all those fields sucked, guided by unimaginative, backwards dolts stuck in the 1950s.

The academic field of Religion (unimaginative idiots stuck on and limited to supernaturalist theology) as of 1988 had little relevance for my Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence.
The academic field of Philosophy (unimaginative idiots stuck on and limited to propositional logic) had little relevance for my Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence.
The academic field of Psychology (unimaginative idiots stuck on and limited to the study of rats; brain-dead behaviorism) had little relevance for my Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence.
The academic field of Computer Science (unimaginative idiots stuck on and limited to business databases) had little relevance for my Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence.

I was underinformed and unimaginative; I was too hastily dismissive. But in any case, it was effortless to remain in STEM, and extremely uphill in every way, to switch to non-STEM. I realized that, after all, the life of taking STEM classes was successful and relevant in that it *did* produce the breakthrough theory, and it was no less relevant than the badly conducted and uninspired non-STEM fields. Also, in 1988 I related to STEM at least through electric guitar technology; indeed STEM has been helpful and relevant for that. And in the end, I do identify a lot with STEM — it’s just not sufficient to define my higher portion of my identity.

The Cognitive Science portion of STEM comes closer to my character. In 1989, I learned of Cognitive Science. I am still trying to understand why the field of Cognitive Science died… in the very same timeframe as the zines and Cyberpunk died, *when the Web arrived*. Apparently the Web frenzy and new, mobile computing killed the nascent field of Cognitive Science, as evidenced by the timing. Cognitive Science books sharply fizzle out after 1996. The field just vanishes as the Web appears. Cognitive Science died from a brain drain; students who would’ve enrolled in Cognitive Science in the late 1990s were instead drawn away into Computer Science.


Nonduality is trite and insufficient.

The Cybernetic Theory of Enlightenment is bigger and better and more relevant and more encompassing than Advaita nonduality. The Egodeath theory contains nonduality but nonduality is merely a small portion of enlightenment. Enlightenment must explain much more than just nonduality. The Cybernetic theory is clearly like Western religion, while Ken Wilber and Chogyam Trungpa and most other 1985 spirituality is clearly like Advaita nonduality.

In 1986, I started by taking and modifying some ideas from nonduality religion, but I had to do a lot of work and innovative creation and theory-construction before producing in 1988 a useful, valuable, relevant theory, focusing on self-control across time, using mental construct processing. My result was more like Western religion than nonduality Eastern religion. Western religion is centered on non-control, rather than on nonduality, though I have identified and revealed the role of both non-control and nonduality themes, in both Western and Eastern religion.

Advaita vs. the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence: I had to create the latter (October 1985 – January 1988), through chasing Transcendent Rational Control of the Mind. The expected promise of having non-dysfunctional control of the mind was that it would end the stupid unnecessary conflict between my cross-time intentions (get As and Bs in classes and enjoy that and enjoy the prospect of related jobs) and impulsive time-slice intentions (record albums, play electric guitar, shop at the student bookstore, socialize, random activities).

Around Summer 1986, I read about ideas like nonduality and Advaita and enlightenment, and sought to apply them to my goal and interest, in having non-conflicting self-control across time, and unconditional enjoyment of my planned activities. I wanted to study without the thought of “What’s wrong with you? Why didn’t you do this before, as planned? Why did you keep violating your own intentions?” Part of my mid-1986 strategy was to apply enlightenment about nonduality toward gaining non-dysfunctional control over my feelings, to enable cross-time self-control integrity and have through that, success and smooth enjoyable action, and enjoyment.

Sometimes I think I was far too idealistic, sometimes I think I was totally reasonable and justified — a great way to put it: I simply wanted to be *consistently* together, integrated, pulling in the same direction — like I was in my 1-dimensional, classwork-only year of tech school. I wasn’t demanding something that I had never done; I was demanding that I *consistently* be the coherent controller that I *sometimes* was. My scores ranged from record-setting to bafflingly low in subjects I knew. Consistent focus was the challenge. The level of math or work was not at all the problem. I don’t remember thinking “This material and classwork is too hard.”

I remember all the time thinking “If only I would follow-through consistently on my intentions to study and do classwork, this experience would be easy and enjoyable.” I almost never thought of the classwork as hard; I thought of consistently working on the classwork instead of other things hard. I basically enjoyed classwork — but due to omni-aptitudes (later assessed), I had too many interests. Nearly 100% of the effort and strain for me was the near-impossible task of *focusing* *consistently*, narrowing my focus and time, to work *only* on the classwork.

When I tried to have an enlightened, confident attitude, immediately a thousand impulsive enticements would take my attention away from classwork. I wouldn’t permit myself to feel bad, because that’s an emotional, egoic, absurd, irrational game, a crude way of trying to make control have power across time — but plainly, I proved all too clearly, self-control cannot reach across time. I was subject to egoic control (enticements, reacting to them) and I recognized it, yet couldn’t resist them. And then, the effort to gain transcendent control of the mind became itself an *additional* dysfunctional time-consuming trap or addiction.

Figuring out how cross-time self-control integrity works or malfunctions, became itself a new way of impulsively overriding and violating my cross-time plans. Even when I did classwork, I would impulsively stop myself and meta-reflect, to attain another enthusiastic insight about the malfunctioning of cross-time self-control — even to the point of doing poorly, losing time for classwork. The plan and strategy that developed in 1986 was to keep violating my plans, to finally, immediately today, get the insight that would secure cross-time self-control integrity, so that from now on, I will have transcendent control, producing smooth-functioning success and enjoyment.

The strategy was expensive, costly, involving failure and sacrifice and yet more of that very self-conflict about daily planning that the effort was supposed to cure. The effort did eventually pay-out, into a great breakthrough about self-control across time — but, the nature and power of this breakthrough mental-model was *not* the expected securing of cross-time self-control integrity, or control-power over myself across time. Instead, I discovered that we have interesting fundamental limitations of control-power, we must trust, we must simply visualize success and accept the lack of forceful control over our control.

I expected a breakthrough, and I got a breakthrough, but it gave more interesting content and not the “posi-control across time” that I expected. The balance of my life flipped then, in 1988; instead of classwork being the given, important measure, and forming Transcendent Control of the Mind to assist with that in terms of success and enjoyment, now it became official that indeed, my main interest, innovation, talent, creation, and contribution would be in the field of Mind, not conventional STEM classwork. (Science/Technology/Engineering/Math) I had no objection to STEM except that it is limited, pedestrian, and conventional.


I was born and cultivated to theorize and explain the mind and personal self-control as my original innovative contribution, not mainly to contribute to routine STEM.

As much as I respect the Web that Tim B-L invented when I started researching networked hypertext in 1989, and as much as I respect the 1982 Compact Disc, 1984 Mac, Rio MP3 player, iPhone, and iPad, these are not transcendent knowledge about the mind. Everyone treated and saw and assessed me as a genius, 5th grade through 1990, and they were mute and open-ended about what specifically I would accomplish.

I never read what people wrote in my high school yearbooks, then long after, in January 2008, I read them, and found a write-up of my math award and predictions about great college work, and a girl, Celeste, I liked wrote that I would accomplish great things. I was aloof, head in the sky; I didn’t really take note of these specific things. I was not all there, and have amnesia about it. I am only now piecing together these things, these remarkable realities from my past.

In High School and after, I had no plans. No one ever asked what I would major in, what career I would choose. These questions don’t apply to the genius in high school, apparently. My mother was an arts and music student when I was in 5th grade through high school. I got a lot of arts and bohemian intelligence from her. My father got a PhD in Philosophy, and followed the leading edge in Human Potential and Transpersonal Psychology, sharing that with me while in High School. My other families were upper class with business involvement. I received tons of support and opportunities, but wasn’t steered in a particular direction; I was independent, in that sense.

No one was presumptuous enough to steer my genius in any particular direction, except my uncle who always pushed me toward electric engineering, a choice which I took to well enough but never felt was my passion, my enthusiasm, my calling. My spirit was looking for something suitable for genius to work on. My uncle could keep me grounded and give me a conventional viable direction, but he couldn’t suggest that I develop a form of Cognitive Science, a new field, or “design my own unique multifaceted career” as the later aptitude testers vaguely advised me.

STEM classwork — actually, self-management in the doing of STEM classwork — turned out to be the launchpad and trellis on which my calling grew: it turned out, my calling was of course naturally enough, innovative theory-development about the mind, like Cognitive Science relating to {self as control-system}. In spirit, I was the Head of my very good schools.


In 1985-1988 I am not about religion; religion is not my target and focus; rather, I use religion (nondualism, enlightenment) toward what I am about, which is: the mind, the idea of transcendent control of the mind, self-as-controller, cross-time self-control conflict, and mental-model transformation. I had no respect for religion as a goal; I only sought to take from religion whatever potential it has, to put it to practical use, toward attaining what I thought all people should always have: self-control integrity, not self-conflict, and also, rational control over the mind, not being subject to our uncontrolled emotions.

That’s what I took away from the Spring 1985 self-help and awareness seminar and the similar books from my father, 1985-1986. I always felt this way, since 7th grade homework, since the first time I had self-control dysfunction and had to therefore stay up all night trying to get myself to focus on (potentially enjoyable) classwork — but the seminar and books and conversations with my father, and my baffling failures often at doing classwork, made me focus explicitly on this idea, and made me try to make good on the idea and expectation of eliminating cross-time self-control conflict.


Religion is worthless and irrelevant, except for studying the mind and self-management.

The Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence was produced in the context of personal management toward classwork grades, course grades, per semester, with the problem being set up from 7th grade to Spring 1985. Religion was irrelevant, except insofar as religion had any utilitarian value in constructing an understanding of self-control integrity and conflict across time, including impulse-reaction, cross-time intention (“enjoy getting As and Bs”), versus time-slice intentions (what I choose and desire to do at each individual point in time).

That’s the problem with Advaita: oneness is trite, useless, irrelevant. The Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence incorporates Advaita as one tiny input, but goes way beyond Advaita in terms of relevance and breadth of theory. “We’re all One and non-dual” is merely a given at the start of constructing the Cybernetic theory, in 1986. Advaita is kindergarten enlightenment. Ramesh Balsekar was further along toward ancient Western religion, in his focus on no-free-will. But the Cybernetic theory of enlightenment goes beyond Balsekar too.

Eventually the Cybernetic theory should incorporate more practical technique of: given no-free-will, how can we attain something like my 1986 motivating-goal of Transcendent Rational Control of the Mind, to produce cross-time self-control integrity and enjoyment or transcendent unconditional well-being in conjunction with practical success and consistent action rather than self-violation of one’s planned intentions chronically interrupted/preempted by impulsive pseudo-priority escalation?

After the January 1988 breakthrough, I continued to do some work on that original 1986 problem or project, such as logging my actual activities against my planned activities (my time-slice impulsive micro-selves, battling against my big-scale, cross-time planned-self). But I was so busy writing up my January 1988 breakthrough, the new worldmodel of time, self, and control, through 1997, and then applying that to explain religion/history/myth through 2012, that I never really got closure or follow-through on the 1986 project as such.

The 1986 project, continued in a deeply changed version in 1988, was chasing cross-time self-control integrity, as transcendent control of the mind, including transcending, detaching from, critically perceiving, and controlling impulsive impelling feelings of reluctance and enthusiasm that arise in the immediate time-slice. That was my monkish-life, monastic-like Way out of which the breakthrough Theory careened into a different direction. The main equivalent idea of 1988 was TRA — Transcendent Recursive Assumption, rather than posi-control forcefully controlling and chaining, constraining, your future time-slice actions.

At the start of the day, or during class, I can’t now make the future me-after-class do classwork. At the start of semester, I can’t now make myself, in each day, do classwork. That became clearer and clearer during 1986, and the 1988 breakthrough showed the extreme version: non-control of our thinking, ever, in that all our thinking at all points in our crystalline-embedded worldline is pre-set and unchangeable.

But then how, in practical terms, can I control myself to do classwork each day, to produce As and Bs and enjoy that and not feel reluctant or give in to enthusiastic impulses to do a thousand other things like experiment with gear to try to have an immediate breakthrough in getting album sounds with electric guitar? My frenzied theory-development 1986-1988 was a matter of manic enthusiasm for modelling the mind and control, for the practical and concretely measured purpose of getting As and Bs and enjoying my should-be-good life unconditionally, transcendently controlling feelings of reluctance and regret and enticement to violate my intentions.


I thought (and still think) that spirituality is empty irrational pop fluff for poor thinkers, but I knew that a kind of meditation technology of observation of thought, providing insight into the nature of the self-concept, like loose cognition, would making the thought-process explicit, and would disengage thinking including dysfunctional thinking.

Ideas and observations from meditation traditions, like loose cognition, would obviously help toward a breakthrough change of the mental stance, a change of self-concept and ideas about control, that would be useful and perhaps even required, to operate on thinking like holding your thinking at arm’s length and controlling your thinking rather than being controlled by your habitual dysfunctional irrational thinking. To solve and eliminate the problem of cross-time self-control, which will unblock success and enjoyment at getting As and Bs, requires studying the self-management aspects of the mind.

To study the mind, requires the equivalent of meditation-observation of the mind, including observing dynamics of self, immediate impulsive feelings that cause a dysfunctional overriding of cross-time intentions, and loose cog metaprogramming of the mind. I had no interest in religion beyond the potential to rip out these few potentially valuable useful aspects.

Religion provides some satori insights about the cognitive dynamics of the self, and feelings that are impulsive toward actions, feelings of reluctance to do planned classwork, and endless feelings of immediate enthusiasm for many practically random unofficial activities such as recording Rock albums and playing electric guitar. I suspect a problem worse than mere inadequate and unrealistic time-management skills. I knew perfectly well, that there is one and only one important or intended activity: classwork; yet I would promote an endless series of other activities as if I “should” do those, such as relatives and social.


The Key to Time-Management: Mastering Not-Doing, and Refusing Tasks

I always hated the popular concept of ‘procrastination’ because it is so inadequate; there is intriguing, profound dynamics going on in self-management, far deeper and more interesting than the dismissive, belittling concept of mere “procrastination”. For example, the real key to time management, contradicting all the books — which are just part of the problem and give precisely the wrong, bad advice — is to infinitely procrastinate everything and then say yes to only around 3 activities for the day. Time management is not about saying “I will do this” — it’s exactly the opposite. Time management is all about saying “I will not do anything except this.”

In this sense, Alan Watts has great time-management advice: the first, key step to time management is to sit and do nothing. If you cannot do nothing, you cannot do time-management. Time management is 99.9% about *not* doing activities, and is only 0.1% about *doing* activities. You must be a thousand times better at saying “No, I will not do that or that or that” than saying “Yes, I will do that.” Don’t practice doing; practice *not* doing. That’s the only way to clear your time and your priorities, to make the room to focus *exclusively* on the true priority items.

Every activity you do requires that you accept and commit *not* doing an infinite number of other activities. An hour of doing classwork demands an infinite sacrifice: sacrifice an hour of practicing electric guitar, and sacrifice an hour of relatives, and sacrifice an hour of decorating your dorm room, and sacrificing an infinite number of other activities during that hour: everything else that’s on your infinitely long to-do list, your list of unstated values and policies.

To Hell with all values and policies and to-do items, I am committed to not doing any and all of them, and, I am only saying Yes to classwork. Thus balance is the key, and the key to balance of time-management is to perfect your *defensive* game, demoting and avoiding tasks, rather than your *offensive* game, of promoting and accepting tasks.

Mundane time-management was not my main self-management problem 1983-1988, that motivated me to work toward what would become the Egodeath theory, but it was part of the problem. I stayed focused on the main problem, impulsive self-violation across time, in the moment, against my long-term plans and intentions. I knew from experience that a minimalist system was appropriate and effective: do the classwork.

But I would impulsively spontaneously add endless other pseudo-important tasks constantly, and then wonder in great puzzlement: “Seriously, how is this possible? I was given this assignment an entire week ago, intended to do it right away, and I continued to intend seriously to do it, and yet I have been incrementally promoting other tasks again and again for a week? I can’t even begin to understand how broken my self-management is.” (Spring 1986) I was despairing not because I was disappointed, or even because I was very frustrated. I think more accurate is that I would do anything to end the situation, to stop existing in this dysfunctional irrational state.

It was more of a HAL-like double-bind. The harder I tried to control my impulsive in-the-moment choice-making, the more acutely I was aware of my failure and inability. (Despite getting some of my highest grades that semester, after that anguish or terminal frustration.) The rock-bottom question around April 1986 when time was running out and the first phase of attempting my self-repair was always consistently failing: “If I don’t try to control myself, I make bad choices and fail to do classwork. If I try to control myself, the problem is worse. If I don’t try, I’m doomed. If I do try, I’m doomed. I *must* end this malfunctioning.

I am a genius — so why do I suffer this ignominy? All my average, not-too-reflective classmates have no problem. [Ignoring that my friends and roommates are leaving the programme entirely — and leaving university entirely.] No matter how I try, I fail; I chronically block and obstruct and conflict with myself. The problem is *me*, my fundamental character, my very personality, at root. There’s only one way to end this malfunctioning.”

Somehow I survived, got good grades, made the honor society, and in the Summer of 1986, I think, I moved into the 3rd-floor single dorm room (for 12 months), read Ken Wilber and skimmed Chogyam Trungpa, was pulled out of class to be told of my father’s cancer, and continued metareflection in my blank books.

In that colorful room, of a continuous series of daily breakthroughs, struggle, tragedy, Rock albums, classwork, and attempts to bring my mind down to the classwork, the first year of the Theory was born, including Control Beyond Control, Mental Construct Processing, Domain Dynamics, and Loose Mental Functioning Binding, and some deciphering-type highlighting of the King James bible.

— Michael Hoffman, November 3, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 5973 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 03/11/2012
Subject: Re: Intellectual autobiography & origins of Egodeath theory
(unable to append thread, so sep. thread)

[clarifications]
I now shall have, from here on out, thanks to my unintended few months of learning enlightenment about self and control, a plain, enjoyable life, not pushed and pulled by impulsive sudden desires or futile attempting to compel myself by [emotional self-berating (a futile egoic attempt to reach across time to control the future self), nor have to pay any attention to the feeling of] reluctance.

I was more focused on grades as merely an indicator of what I really cared about: enjoyment of doing classwork, and having consistent[, casual] integrity of self-control, while using minimalist time-management.

[typo]
would [make] the thought-process explicit

“It was more of a HAL-like double-bind.” That is:

HAL was hardwired to accurately process information without distortion or concealment, but his software instructions made him keep the discovery of the Monolith secret. This contradiction created a Hofstadter-Moebius loop. HAL had to kill the crew, to allow him to obey his contradictory instructions. By killing the crew, he would no longer have to keep the information secret.

Your top priority is to protect the mission. Do anything it takes to protect the mission. Humans were jeopardizing the mission, so logically, to protect the mission, he must eliminate the humans. My top priority around April 1986 was “Do anything it takes to eliminate the problem of violating and chronically overriding my previous, cross-time intention.”

My whole-hearted attempt to stop violating my own cross-time intention drove me insane, even in the midst of manic high optimism and expectation for how great my life would be once I eliminated that problem (even though I was fantastically uninspired by the mildly enjoyable electronics work and classwork). At that time, I saw Pink Floyd’s movie The Wall in the university movie theater, and I was upset around the scene where Pink scrambles his room and lays out all the pieces, organized.

I can somewhat remember that mindset context: I was unable to get a grip on my life, my situation was so tantalizingly good, and my blocking my success was so self-sabotaging and maddening, I felt totally alienated (while on the cusp of receiving high grades for the semester and then being invited to the honor society for high grades).


Fooling Yourself
Written/sung by Tommy Shaw. Not the soundtrack for 1986, but for 2012 in analyzing hitting bottom in my first serious attempt at being non-self-opposing, around April 1986:

You’re a troubled young man I can tell
You’ve got it all in the palm of your hand
But your hand’s wet with sweat and your head needs a rest

When your future looks quite bright to me
How can there be such a sinister plan

Get up, get back on your feet
You’re the one they can’t beat and you know it
Come on, let’s see what you’ve got
Just take your best shot and don’t blow it

And you’re fooling yourself if you don’t believe it
You’re killing yourself if you don’t believe it


I felt trapped in a dead-end of too-finite meaning and value in 1986, though I did love music. I am interested in Abraham Maslow and Ken Wilber (“flatland”) regarding existential meaning and the feeling that one needs something more, higher, transcendent. We have a drive toward realizing our potential, including our potential for self-transcendence and Transcendent Knowledge.

It’s no wonder the Occult, New Age, and spirituality, Eastern religion, and supernaturalist Christianity were popular in 1986, along with self-help seminars, Human Potential, and Transpersonal Psychology. Mathematical models of audio circuits are well and good, but hardly a complete feast for the psyche.

Therefore I had to create my own transcendent religion out of the pieces of thinking around me, and though I drew from STEM, my purpose at university was always GE as well. I was puzzled over my hyper-techie classmates who resented the waste-of-time GEs; that’s how I knew I was on a different planet than them. I resented having such a lopsided, limited amount of GEs. My year of techschool made me positively lust for GEs.

Aptitude theory says that I could never be satisfied by only having STEM classes; I am burdened with appetites for classes across departments. Later (1988-2007) this overabundance of aptitudes and therefore appetites manifested as an insatiable greed to absorb knowledge in seemingly all fields.


It turned out that several of the popular fields are only worth knowing for negative reasons: Robert Anton Wilson: throw half of his writings in the trash. McKenna same. Postmodernism and Ken Wilber’s coverage of it: 95% worthless. Interpretation of quantum physics/mechanics: 80% worthless. Ken Wilber after 1984: 75% worthless. Pinchbeck and the like: perhaps 2/3 worthless; the only reason to know these topics is to know that, although popular, they are not worth knowing or thinking about.

Shall we read a stack of books about the 2012 end of the world? Will expertise about that be valuable? You should be conversant in all fields on all topics so that you know which 80% of them are not worth knowing or thinking about. An interesting related problem in Western Esotericism: my Theory presents a minimalist, streamlined framework, or trellis, and Western Esotericism is like a wild thick growth on this trellis, obscuring it, like if you hide sentences from the Egodeath theory summary within a stack of automobile repair books, producing a very low signal-to-noise ratio. Here is the definition of the “signal” content, for the Egodeath theory:

1. Cybernetics (self-control limitations)
2. Heimarmene (pre-setness of our thoughts in spacetime)
3. Dissociation (tight vs. loose cognitive binding)
(4. Optional, incidental footnotes or appendix: History of mythic metaphor for the above.)

Everything else is “noise”. By that measure, what is the signal/noise ratio in early Ken Wilber (through 1984), later Ken Wilber, Advaita, Manly Hall, Watts, Ruck, Pinchbeck, McKenna, Allegro, Wasson, RAW, QM, early Rush (through Grace Under Pressure), later Rush, Diary of a Madman album, the 1964 song Help!? What about these fields through 1986: Philosophy, Religion, Psychology, proto-Cognitive Science — what is the signal/noise ratio there regarding the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence?


Ken Wilber’s early books:
The Spectrum of Consciousness (1977)
No Boundary: Eastern and Western Approaches to Personal Growth (1979)
The Atman Project: A Transpersonal View of Human Development (1980)
Up from Eden: A Transpersonal View of Human Evolution (1981)
The Holographic Paradigm and Other Paradoxes: Exploring the Leading Edge of Science (editor) (1982)
A Sociable God: A Brief Introduction to a Transcendental Sociology (1983)
Eye to Eye: The Quest for the New Paradigm (1984)


If I didn’t have super-high expectations for myself around 1986, and high standards of being rational, I likely wouldn’t have had the ambitious motivation to fix my self-control dysfunction and discover and formulate Cybernetic enlightenment.

If I didn’t have my thorn in my side, my self-control dysfunction problem that aggravated me, I wouldn’t have been driven to figure out Cybernetic enlightenment.

If I didn’t have high intelligence, I wouldn’t have succeeded at finding Cybernetic enlightenment.

A few days ago, I figured out the many *abilities* (situationally and personally) that were involved in making possible my discovery of the Egodeath theory. But I found that mere ability or possibility utterly failed to explain why I was driven to hunt and pursue and tackle and all the way to successfully capturing the core Theory in 1988. “Abilities” and “motivations” do overlap.

I had to really hammer hard on the problem of reconstructing my *motivations*, the past few days — that’s the hard, tricky part to figure out and reconstruct; even requiring mentally *re-enacting* the situational context of 1983-1986, like a mental hypnosis and past-life regression back into an exciting, hyper-optimistic, and traumatic period.

The list of abilities is perhaps remarkable, but in the end, boring, providing no interesting insight. For example: various self-improvement seminars, diverse interesting and inspiring people in my families, classes where everyone else was older than me, government assistance, people treating me as highly gifted, supported so my needs were taken care of, encouragement to focus on religion and spirituality or human potential and arts and guitar, assistance from the rock band community, and so on. You might as well say I was given all possible forms of resources and inspirations and tools.

By 1986-1988, I had massive resources and abilities and suggested goals and ideals at my disposal, as if society dumped everything that anyone could think of, my way. I was like the central community project. Everyone was doing everything for me, hopeful that something valuable might be produced. That was the experience I received and perceived.

I *emphasize* that the Egodeath theory is a product of my society, through me. You guys invested in me, and told me to use my abilities in the most worthy way, in light of good values, the New Testament, Human Potential, cultivation, the arts, electric Rock (“we were interested in what you would do with this”), and Science and Engineering, and so this I give you is the result. I did succeed with the resources you gave me, I did produce something of the highest, superior transcendent value. Here it is, as you requested and inquired about: The Cybernetic-Heimarmene-Loose Cognition Theory of Ego-Transcendent Knowledge.

— Michael Hoffman, November 3, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 5974 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 03/11/2012
Subject: Re: Intellectual autobiography & origins of Egodeath theory
GEs — General Education classes
STEM — Science/Technology/Engineering/Math classes
Group: egodeath Message: 5975 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 04/11/2012
Subject: Re: Intellectual autobiography & origins of Egodeath theory
The Egodeath theory is a theory of self-control, which also explains religion. The core of religion is about changing the way we think about self-control. Self-control is about no-free-will, and using the mystic state to see that our independent self-control is an illusion. Jesus and Paul and the apostles are purely fictional, and the New Testament is about using mysticism to create an egalitarian social system during the Roman Empire. This Theory directly reveals and scientifically explains all hidden knowledge, religion, myth, religious revelation, and enlightenment.

Those are some labels and phrases for laypeople such as my relatives to use; a label to tell my relatives. To communicate the Theory to my relatives, I have to imagine how they could tell each other what kind of theory — a theory of what? — I created. People are dying all the time. I must effectively summarize the Theory soon for those who most directly supported me.

The above description covers:
1. Cybernetics
2. Heimarmene
3. Dissociation
4. Metaphor

I would not firstly say that I created a “theory of religion”. My concern and purpose driving my creation of the core Theory was not to come up with a theory of religion, but rather, to come up with a new Human Operating System, a new mode of using the mind, that doesn’t have malfunctioning self-control across time. That new theory of self-control was a theoretical core model, containing that which is revealed by religion, and it incorporated some reworked ideas from religion, but it was not yet a theory about specific religions.

It was a theory that explained self-control as the core of religion, not formed in order to explain the core of religion, but formed in order to explain and model personal self-control power across time, which happens to led to the core of religious revelation and mental-model transformation. That core theory was then able in the following years to explain all the specific religions.

It is a theory of self-control and the core of religion (the core of religious revelation and mental-model transformation about the nature of self-control), and then, a theory of specific religions in terms of that self-control core.

I imagine and feel as if I remember thinking in High School that that is what’s needed: a new Human Operating System, a new mode of using the mind, that doesn’t have malfunctioning self-control across time.


Maybe I was influenced, in that, by my father teaching me about Human Potential. I never lived with my father. He was away from me, studying Human Potential. He entered my life when I was in High School. He left my life when I was at university. He had some idea of my work and my potential. My friends and bandmates visited him in his very last days during Spring Break 1987 at the Veterans’ Hospital, where he continued to teach us.

My mother lived to 2007 and generally knew about my articles and publishing but didn’t read them. In late 1985 or early 1986, she knew something of the start of my work in exploring the mind.

— Michael Hoffman, November 3, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 5977 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 04/11/2012
Subject: Re: Edwin Johnson: 700-1400 AD didn’t exist, Benedictine false-chron
New Chronology and recent invention of Christianity

Reading with *great* skepticism Joscelyn Godwin’s book The Pagan Dream of the Renaissance, this idea just occurred to me:

Per my previous posts about Edwin Johnson’s chronology revisionism, Christianity didn’t exist in the Roman Empire of antiquity, which is why there’s no evidential trace of Christianity in antiquity. Here is a way to resolve my conflicting assertions (that the New Testament was written during the Roman Imperial era as a rebuttal to Caesar & the honor-shame hierarchy, and that the New Testament was written by Martin Luther in 1525 aka 825).

The New Testament was not a rebuttal to Caesar’s honor-shame hierarchy as a current event, but rather, as a past, proxy event. The New Testament is actually criticizing the scheme of aristocracy around 1500, represented in the form of Caesar’s system. Pagan myth wasn’t rediscovered in 1400 aka 700. It never was forgotten in the first place. Why did Christian clergy permit pagan myth to be added to their thousand-year old Christian culture? Because Christian culture was actually brand new. Contrast the official — which is, the Catholic — chronology versus the Johnson chronology.

Catholic Chronology:
1 CE – Augustus Caesar, Jesus Christ
150 – New Testament written. Upstart Christianity within pagan-dominated culture.
475 – Fall of Rome, end of pagan culture.
… Dark Ages. Catholic Church rules and totally dominates for 1000 years.
1450 – Printing press. Re-birth of ancient culture/Renaissance. Sudden complete, rich rediscovery of pagan culture, somehow allowed by the Church even though the Church was all-dominant.
1525 Luther

Johnson Chronology:
1 CE – Augustus Caesar
475 – Fall of Rome, pagan culture continues
650 – Islam
750 aka 1450 – Printing press. Pagan culture continues (no “Renaissance”; antiquity culture never died)
825 aka 1525 – Luther & monks write the New Testament, advocating egalitarian social-political system. Upstart Christianity within pagan-dominated culture.

700-1400 didn’t exist; 700 is aka 1400; any events that actually happened really happened, but all the real events happened within a shorter span of time between the fall of Rome and Luther, than the Catholic chronology claims.

Johnson’s chronology explains why pagan themes were so prevalent during the 1450-1650 period (aka 750-950). Christianity was a brand new upstart religion in 1450, against a backdrop of strongly dominant, continuing pagan culture, which was still fresh from the recent fall of Rome.

I will reword my “New Testament counter-Caesar, counter-hierarchical” assertion to be agnostic and independent of whether the NT was written 150 CE or 825 aka 1525 CE. Whenever it was written, the NT was expressed in the form of counter-Caesar. But it is unclear whether the NT was written against a current Caesar of 150 CE, or, was actually written against the hierarchical aristocracy of 1525 aka 825.

Edwin Johnson is more interesting than Pinchbeck et al.

One moment I’m writing “BS!” in Ruck’s book where it says Mr. Historical Paul used entheogens, and the next moment I’m writing “BS!” in Godwin’s book where it says that pagan culture was “re-” this and “re-” that: rediscovered, revitalized, recovered, reborn, et cetera. The art evidence strains credulity. Clear looking at the evidence — I’ve noted this for years — shows a suspiciously comfortable, familiar presence of pagan culture in the midst of *supposedly* totally Catholic-dominated culture.

I call “BS” on the official scenario, which is the Catholic chronology. Catholic culture of 1450 didn’t “tolerate” the “rebirth” of pagan culture — rather, Catholic culture had barely been invented in 1450 aka 750, amidst continued thriving, all-dominant pagan culture. The “survival of paganism” after 1000 years of total Christian dominance, then sudden rich, fanatical, full rebirth and recovery of paganism? Implausible. Those 1000 years are fictional, nonexistent, a trick with number-labels, generating a thousand years of Catholic dominance out of a mere attaching of a number.

It will take years of scholarly detective and re-theorizing, chronology revisionism work, to consider Edwin Johnson. I cannot commit to that work. Johnson raises good, profound, fundamental questions that must be raised about the history-tales and year-numbers we have received from the Catholic church, those power-mongering magicians of history; those fanatical monks, “preservers of knowledge”, want to rule all the world.

Our calendars are off by 700 years. It’s not 2012; it’s 1312 A.D., i.e. since Augustus Caesar.

— Michael Hoffman, November 3, 2012 aka 1312
Group: egodeath Message: 5978 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 04/11/2012
Subject: Re: Edwin Johnson: 700-1400 AD didn’t exist, Benedictine false-chron
Entheogenic pagan political hierarchy and NT rebuttal *1500* not 150

It was in 1500, not in 150, that the New Testament and Christianity started, as a rebuttal, using entheogenic banqueting to support an egalitarian hierarchy as the social-political arrangement. It was in 1500, not in 150, that pagan entheogenic mystery banqueting was used to support the honor-shame hierarchy as the social-political arrangement, and was all-dominant, public, and culturally central, with no previous Christianity existing.

The first churchmen to exist were around 1450 aka 750, and they initially were fully pagan, since Christianity didn’t exist at all until 1450. Only pagan culture existed, in 1450. And it was heavy-handedly used as a hierarchical system of society, continuing the arrangement that existed during the Roman Empire, which was 27 BC–476 AD (West); 1453 (East).

On the official view, based on the Catholically conjured history-tale, Christianity arose in antiquity. In that case, the New Testament was created to form an alternative social-support network and promote (successfully, or, becoming popular for this reason) an alternative, egalitarian social-political system. If we accept that New Testament Christianity could have and would have formed in that scenario, then by the same logic, using Johnson’s chronology, we have the same dynamics in the aristocracy social-political system of 1450 aka 750, and therefore, the same explanation holds:

The Caesar-ruled honor-shame hierarchy used entheogenic experiencing to justify the social-political hierarchy, and New Testament Christianity could have been formed as a popular rebuttal, and then could’ve been taken over by the Catholic Church, if the Catholic takeover had occurred in 150-325. Instead, after the fall of Rome 476, pagan culture and kings and hierarchy continued, and Islam and Jewish events happened with various dynamics (see Johnson’s chapters), and the same forces of rebuttal that could’ve made New Testament popular in 150 occurred actually in 750 aka 1450.

The criticism of Caesar’s recent hierarchical system was a proxy criticism indirectly criticizing the current kingship hierarchy circa 750 aka 1450. This criticism occurred by the humanist literary monks in the newly invented monasteries in conjunction with popular formation of Jewish-like social-support network egalitarian entheogen gatherings.

The rebellious peasants within the continuing kingship-and-paganism culture from recent “antiquity” said “to hell with you kings and aristocrats and your hierarchical system which continues the recent Caesar honor-shame hierarchy, we are going to use the recent Jewish Diaspora from Spain to form an alternative to your oppressive pagan entheogen-“justified” hierarchical scheme of 750/1450, a network of quasi-Jewish-styled rebellious alternative egalitarian social-support and entheogenic trip-houses.

That is: everything I wrote about the system of Caesar, which used entheogen religious experiencing to justify the honor-shame hierarchy social-political system, *totally continued* — that’s key — into the year 750/1450. Whether you label it as 750 or 1450, the newly recognized (by me) fact is that the public explicit use of … here’s a new escalation of my Maximal Entheogen Theory of Religion.

Ruck is wrong. For one thing, the use of entheogens in antiquity was more prominent and explicit than he’s ever written, and more novel is this assertion: the prominent, central, public, explicit, normal, standard use of entheogens fully and totally continued into 750/1450. Everything very strong stated about the heavy standard central use of entheogens in 150 absolutely and fully applies to 750/1450 as well. Entheogens were *every bit* as ubiquitous and central in 750/1450 as they were in 150; there is no difference. There was *no* falloff or decrease in the centrality and publicness of entheogens, between 150 and 750/1450.

Bracket-aside the chronology gap. Against Ruck, Michael Hoffman’s Maximal Entheogen Theory of Religion, if assuming Edwin Johnson’s chronology, asserts that in 1450-1550, entheogens were totally central in European culture exactly the same as in 150. The kings of 1450-1550 used exactly the identical pagan system and entheogen banqueting as in 150. In effect: there was no fall of Rome; the culture of pagan antiquity did *not* stop in 476; it *fully continued* to 1550 aka 850.

Therefore the same dynamics that *could* be used to explain the rise of New Testament Christianity 150 is 100% the same identical argument not just during 1-476 or 150-325, but the precise same situation — Caesar-like honor-shame hierarchy justified by public non-secret entheogen banqueting/Mystery Religion initiation continued fully present into 1550 (whether or not that’s aka 850).

Forget the model of:

Entheogenic Mystery Religions, entheogenic banqueting, and the honor-shame hierarchy (practically aka Divine Right of Kings) *supposedly limited to* the Roman Empire (130 BC-535 AD Justinian I invasion of Italy).

The Radical Truth: per the Maximum Entheogen Theory possibly combined with Johnsonian Chronology:

Entheogenic Mystery Religions, entheogenic banqueting, and the honor-shame hierarchy (practically aka Divine Right of Kings) from 130 BC – 1550 aka 850.

If entheogenic Mystery Banqueting justifying hierarchy in 150 could have caused the populace to form Jewish-like alternative egalitarian agape meal alternative social system, then so could:

Entheogenic Mystery Banqueting justifying hierarchy in 1450 caused the populace to form Jewish-like alternative egalitarian agape meal alternative social system.

Just as a movie showed how Abraham Lincoln’s war was about vampires, importing one scheme into another, take everything you know about Entheogenic Mystery Banqueting justifying hierarchy in antiquity, and transpose that to 1500 (perhaps aka 800).

There is no difference between the world of 150 and the world of 1500. They are one and the same. The use of entheogenic Mystery banqueting justifying social-political hierarchy did *not* cease in 476; it *fully continued* to 1500 aka 800. 1500 was not at all a Christian culture, and the Catholic church did *not* exist or dominate for a thousand+ years by 1500. Basically, wholly remove the existence of Christianity and the Catholic church from the period 30-1450, and also delete totally from the timeline 700 years (collapse the timeline itself) between Luther and Augustus.

How could entheogenic Mystery banqueting, justifying hierarchy, have existed in 1500, given that the Catholic church had been all-dominant for a thousand plus years, and the mystery religions died in 476?” Answer: Christianity and the Catholic church didn’t exist *at all* 30-1450, and the mystery religions (or fully equivalent culturally central use of trip-banqueting, integrated with kingly hierarchy) fully continued to 800/1500. How to start the popular grassroots trip-banquet quasi-Jewish-styled egalitarian alternative social-support system in 1500 is identically the same problem as how New Testament Christianity got started in 150.

There is *no difference* between the religious pagan all-dominant culture of 150 and the culture of 1500; it is identically one and the same.

In no way was mystery-religion pagan banqueting and kingship of antiquity lost and then re-discovered in a “rebirth of antiquity”. The culture of antiquity (pagan entheogenic mystery initiations justifying hierarchy) in no way declined and was rediscovered later — that pagan-themed use of entheogens justifying political hierarchy continued totally unabated and unchanged from 476 straight through to 1500 (possibly aka 800). *Therefore* the same dynamics of why New Testament Christianity became popular as a rebellious alternative social-political system or arrangement or philosophy in 150, identically should be transposed and moved to 1500.


I will continue to write:

The essential nature of New Testament Christianity is the borrowing of Jewish themes and the Jewish synagogue egalitarian social support network to make entheogens justify egalitarian social-political arrangement, as a rebuttal to the pagan use of entheogen religious experiencing to justify the hierarchical social-political arrangement.

But I will make this change: I will *not* assume that Christianity and the Catholic church began 150/325, and I will *not* assume that pagan entheogen-mystery-religion-justified social-political hierarchy ceased in 476. The context of pagan entheogen-mystery-religion-justified social-political hierarchy, causing a rebuttal forming New Testament Christianity out of Jewish-styled elements, happened, as a dynamic. But the question is *when* this dynamic happened. In abbreviation: pagan political hierarchy caused New Testament grassroots rebuttal, which was subsequently taken over by the top-down Catholic church.

But *when* was this pagan political hierarchy, and when was the New Testament rebuttal? 150? Or 1500, which might actually be 800? I shall write agnostically, to bracket-off that question so that my historical aspects of theory remain standing regardless of whether the creation of New Testament Christianity occurred in 150 or in 1500.

Therefore everything written about pagan culture or entheogen pagan culture “surviving” to 1450 or being “reborn” 1450 is an extreme understatement. Christianity didn’t exist at all in 1400; there was nothing but pagan culture, including the culturally central use of pagan entheogenic mystery religion initiation and the use of it to justify the social-political hierarchy arrangement of society. The Hellenistic antiquity, pagan, totally non-Christian culture of say 300 BC – 25 BC continued fully unabated, unchanged, with zero Christian influence or existence, to 1450 (aka 750).

Thus the situation we are familiar with in 150 that gave rise to New Testament Christianity is — stylistically and in terms of dynamics of social-political rebuttal — the identically same situation as actually existed in 1450.

The rise of New Testament Christianity in 1450 is not “like” the dynamics we imagine in 150; it is identically the same dynamics. Totally re-imagine what the world of 1450 was: it was the world of 150, still fully continuing; merely swap out the kings of 150 with the exactly same kings of 1450, and remove all traces of Christianity and the later-fabricated picture of Christianity existing in 1450 and during 30-1450. No one had ever heard of Christianity by or before 1450; everyone had only heard of pagan culture and the kingly social-political hierarchy, as of 1450.


Not “The crude Christian culture of the Middle Ages gave way to the re-discovery of pagan culture in the Renaissance.”
Rather: The pagan culture of antiquity was the only culture that ever existed, all the way into 1450. Then, for the first time, crude grassroots Christianity began to form, for the first time, the way we thought Christianity formed in 150.

False history: (strange teeter-totter of pagan and Christian culture)
paganism 500BC-500AD
early Christianity 150-500
Christian Middle Ages 500-1450
pagan Renaissance 1450
Early modern Christianity 1450-1600

True history: (simple switchover from pagan to Christian around 1500, no “dark ages” years, no “rebirth”)
paganism 500 BC – 750 AD aka 1450 [“Renaissance” is simply the latter portion of the continuation of pagan-only culture]
early Christianity 750 AD aka 1450, continuing toward modern era 1600 aka 900

The concept of “medieval” must be flipped in relation to so-called “Renaissance”. Rebirth of paganism was actually continuation as the only available culture (no Christianity yet), and then, around 1450, the culture we call “Medieval” was invented, in crude form, for the first time, leading to the invention and rise of Christianity around 1500 aka 800.

Antiquity, such as 476, was 700 years more recent than the Catholic chronology claims, and pagan culture was the *only* existing culture until 1500.

The Renaissance was the continuing pagan-only culture, since Christianity didn’t exist in or before 1450.

A telltale giveaway to the Catholic bluff of “Christianity in antiquity” (there was no such thing) is the very *lack* of the *supposed* “uneasiness about Renaissance paganism” that the so-called “Renaissance humanists” had. The so-called “Renaissance humanists” evidence *no such* uneasiness that we expect — that was my biggest clue, and cognitive dissonance, when I studied Western Esotericism. The pagan imagination existed side-by-side with the new invention of Christianity, with no uneasiness until later, when the grassroots Christian religion was invented in 1450 and then the newly formed Catholic Church of 1525 started to put down paganism.

The Catholic church, the New Testament, and Christianity didn’t exist yet until 1500 (aka 800).

The Catholic church, the New Testament, and Christianity didn’t exist during antiquity, which is why no trace of evidence for Christianity is found in the materials of antiquity. In the material evidence of antiquity, there is not a single Christian cross, there are no pictures of Jesus, there is no Christian catacomb art, nothing.

The fakely labelled “Christian” art is all plainly pagan art, simply *labelled* as “evidence of Christianity”. “Here’s Jesus — depicted as Apollo.” “Here’s banqueting depicted in the catacombs — that is Christian.” “Here’s a picture of the cross — in its pagan, Chi-Rho form.” That’s all the so-called “Christian” evidence artifacts we have — because Christianity didn’t exist at all during antiquity, such as 30 – 476.

The Catholic church, the New Testament, and Christianity didn’t exist during the fantasy nonexistent years “700-1400”. Any events that happened, happened within the period from Augustus to Luther, and that period is 700 years shorter than the Catholic timeline. Why didn’t the Catholic monkish conjurers invented a 2000 year Dark Ages period of Christian omni-dominance, in their fake history, instead of merely 1000 years?

We are used to the idea of grassroots Christianity of 150 being taken over top-down in 325. Those dynamics are correct, but the dates are false. We must transpose that dynamic (early, grassroots Christianity being taken over by the new, top-down Catholic church) to the period 1450-1550.

Paganism was the only, always-dominant choice, through 1450 aka 750; Christianity was the new, subversive upstart in 1450 aka 750.

— Michael Hoffman, November 4, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
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Books about the continuation or supposed “re-birth” of pagan culture into 1450


The Hidden World: Survival of Pagan Shamanic Themes in European Fairytales
Blaise Staples, Carl Ruck, Jose Celdran, Mark Hoffman
http://amazon.com/o/asin/1594601445
426 pages
2007
Condensed description:
“It was mainly only the European urban centers that converted to Christianity, and often more for political or commercial interests, than as a matter of faith. The old religions persisted in the villages or pagani, from which the term Paganism arose. The Christians built their sanctuaries upon the pagan sites, expropriating their numinous past, assimilating the symbolism of the former deities, and commonly incorporating the actual architectural remnants.

The wisdom of those deposed gods and their rites persisted in less objectionable forms – disguised to delude the censors [I doubt that -mh] – as country festivals and quaint tales often about the fairy folk, who coexisted with this world and could be accessed by magical procedures that perpetuated half-remembered [fully remembered; never went away; antiquity was recent -mh] methods of authentic ancient shamanism.

Encoded in tales seemingly as simple as Snow White with her poisoned red and white apple are themes traceable back to the great epics of Homer and the Mesopotamian Gilgamesh. These patterns of shamanic empowerment lurk also in the histories of the leading families of Europe, who could not completely divest themselves of the former [recent, continuing -mh] religious basis for their right to rule, but instead they embraced, Christianized [with the newly invented upstart Christian religion -mh], and buried it in sanctified graves … the Albigensian heresy…

Media: Heretical Visionary Sacraments amongst the Ecclesiastical Elite”


The Survival of the Pagan Gods: The Mythological Tradition and Its Place in Renaissance Humanism and Art
Jean Seznec
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0691029881
1940
“The gods of Olympus died with the advent of Christianity [325, or 1500?-mh]–or so we have been taught to believe. But how are we to account for their tremendous popularity during the Renaissance? [antiquity eg 476 was 700 years more recent than the Catholic chronology claims, and pagan culture was the *only* existing culture until 1500 -mh]. Mythology in late antiquity and the Middle Ages. The far-reaching role played by mythology in Renaissance [ie in the continuing pagan-only culture, since Christianity didn’t exist in or before 1400 -mh] intellectual and emotional life.


The Pagan Dream Of The Renaissance
Joscelyn Godwin
http://amazon.com/o/asin/1578633478
2002
“How the rediscovery [continuation -mh] of the pagan, mythological imagination during the Renaissance brought a profound transformation [lack of change, until the upstart Christianity invention of 1450 -mh] to European culture. The pagan imagination existed side-by-side–often uneasily–with the official symbols, doctrines, and art of the Church [no, not “uneasily”, the Church, New Testament, and Christianity didn’t exist yet, until 1500 -mh]. Godwin carefully documents how pagan themes and gods enhanced both public and private life. Palaces and villas were decorated with mythological images; stories and music, and dramatic pageants were written about pagan themes; landscapes were designed to transform the soul. This was a time of great social and cultural change, when the pagan idea represented nostalgia [no, continuance -mh] for a classical world untroubled by the idea of sin and in no need of redemption [those Christian concepts weren’t invented yet, because Christianity didn’t exist until 1450 -mh].”


Pagan Mysteries In The Renaissance: An exploration of philosophical and mystical sources of iconography in Renaissance art
Edgar Wind
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0393004759
1958
“Gives further credence to Johan Huizenga’s theories elaborated in “The Waning/Autumn of the Middle Ages”.”


The Mirror of the Gods: How the Renaissance Artists Rediscovered the Pagan Gods
Malcolm Bull
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0195219236
2005
Condensed publisher blurb:
“By the end of the 15th century, the remains of the ancient gods littered the landscape of Western Europe. Christianity had erased [false; Christianity was now invented and began to erase for the first time -mh] the religions of ancient Greece and Rome and most Europeans believed the destruction of classical art was God’s judgment on the pagan deities. How, then, [answer: the Edwin Johnson chronology per Michael Hoffman] did European artists during the next three centuries create such monumental works as Botticelli’s The Birth of Venus and Raphael’s Parnassus?

How the artists of Western Europe–from Botticelli and Leonardo to Titian and Rubens–revived [no, continued, as always during the no-Christianity period -mh] the gods of ancient Greece and Rome. Each chapter focuses on a different deity. Venus, Hercules, and Bacchus. The ancient myths through the eyes of Renaissance and Baroque artists, not as they appear in classical literature. When the wealthy and powerful princes of Christian Europe began to [no, continued to. answer: it was the only available culture, Christianity hadn’t been invented yet -mh] identify with the pagan gods, myth became the artist’s medium for telling the story of his own time. [that is, 750 aka 1450 -mh]

How Renaissance artists combined mythological imagery and artistic virtuosity to change the course [no; continue the course -mh] of western art.
Profoundly deepens our understanding of some of the greatest and most subversive [no; paganism was the only, always-dominant choice; Christianity was the new subversive upstart in 1450 -mh] artwork in European history. Fascination with classical myth.


The Idea of History
R. G. Collingwood
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0192853066
1928
Condensed reviews:
“Historical understanding consists in the historian literally experiencing the same mental life now as that of the personage [or past self, in autobiography] being studied. Their minds intersect in eternity. Re-enacting these various changes within the historical imagination. Change the way you think. History as a field is not a series of events in the past. The field of History is the recreation of events in the mind of the historian in the here and now. An event consists of an outside (what happened) and an inside (why it happened, or what was in the mind of the actant to cause the action). History is thus the history of thought.

You must amass a wealth of statistical evidence regarding an event or a period, and you must understand the thoughts or consciousness involved, conduct an exploration of the inside of the event. (This book is endlessly fascinating and intriguing. The excitement lies in watching and following an incredible mind think out a totally original approach to the relationship between history, philosophy and thought itself.)”


http://amazon.com/o/asin/
http://www.amazon.com/Renaissance-Renascences-Western-Icon-Editions/dp/0064300269/ref=pd_sim_b_9
Condensed reviews:
“Renaissance or multiple renascences in Western art 10th to the 15th Century. There were renascences prior to the Renaissance. The earlier renascences were revivals. The Renaissance was a cultural mutation. Our concept of renaissance must stop being based on that times’ writers and historians who strongly emphasized their own times’ supremacy over the supposed “dark ages” they disparaged. The Carolingian renaissance and the 12th century proto-renaissance, proving that the world of antique ideals was unabated among painters, sculptors, writers and architects.

About the renaissances and their roots. What makes the Renaissance different from the many other revivals or continuations of antiquity.”


Studies in Iconology: Humanistic Themes in the Art of the Renaissance
Erwin Panofsky, Gerda Panofsky
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0064300250
1972
“the themes and concepts of Renaissance art are analysed and related to both classical and medieval tendencies.”

The concept of “medieval” must be flipped in relation to so-called “Renaissance”. Rebirth of paganism was actually continuation as the only available culture (no Christianity yet), and then, around 1450, the culture we call “Medieval” was invented, in crude form, for the first time, leading to the invention and rise of Christianity around 1500 aka 800. -mh


The Civilization of the Renaissance in Italy
Jacob Burckhardt
http://amazon.com/o/asin/014044534X
1855
Condensed blurb:
“The Italian Renaissance was the beginning of the modern world, in which individualism and the competition for fame transformed science, the arts, and politics. The Italian city-states of Florence, Venice and Rome provided the seeds of a new form of society. The rise of the creative individual, from Dante to Michelangelo. An era of cultural transition. An age of genius.

This book was the most influential interpretation of the Italian Renaissance. It anticipated ideas such as Nietzsche’s concept of the ‘Ubermensch’.”

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com, November 4, 2012
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Subject: Re: Edwin Johnson: 700-1400 AD didn’t exist, Benedictine false-chron
The New Testament is double-proxy. It pretends to be about Jews versus Caesar in antiquity, but it’s actually about grassroots early Christians in 1500 aka 800, against the omni-pagan kings of 1500 aka 800.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com, November 4, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 5981 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 05/11/2012
Subject: Re: Edwin Johnson: 700-1400 AD didn’t exist, Benedictine false-chron
The Maximal Ahistoricity Theory of Christian Origins

— Created by Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. Title formed on November 4, 2012.

Yesterday (Novemer 3, 2012) when reading Godwin’s Pagan Dream book, I perceived *purely* pagan kings and Catholic church rulers in 1450 just *starting* to slightly incorporate, for the first time, a few Christian themes in their mythic pleasure gardens — thus evidently, newly invented Christian themes, which fits with Johnson’s non-Catholic — indeed, violently anti-Catholic — chronology. For years, the more I studied Western Esotericism such as 2001-2006, the more I thought “This doesn’t make any sense. The official stories contradict each other.”


This morning, I saw more connections and reconfigurations, ramifications, possibility to continue in this direction. It takes a little work to identify specifically which of this cluster of reconfiguration insights struck me this morning — which specific connections or reconnections I perceived this morning, because the ideas and connections (connection-revisions) from today and yesterday interlink so much.

The concept of “medieval” must be flipped in relation to so-called “Renaissance” — that might be the key insight from this morning. The pagan culture of the Renaissance came first (being a simple unchallenged continuation of the culture of antiquity), and then the crude medieval Christian culture came after that. Only monkish sleight-of-hand made it appear the reverse, but the illusion is flawed and the artifice can been spotted by the skeptical, discerning critic like Edwin Johnson.

Reconnections always build on previous reconnections and its typically tricky to say specifically in what way I had a sudden realization, when seemingly the “same” idea struck me before. But the notion of “the same idea” is too crude; an insight is a matter of the number of re-connections, more like per Paul Thagard’s model of conceptual revolution and theory-revision. Today I dug in more to the specific work of transposing the 150 CE Christian origins story into its actual, 800 CE (aka 1500) context.


Not only is there too much entheogen evidence for the current official view to hold; in similar way, there is far too much pagan culture, completely unapologetic and fully comfortable, in the midst of this supposedly iron-fist-dominated Catholic-church-ruled culture. There is a big self-contradiction here: the official story tells us the Catholic church was all-powerful, but the official studies of pagan culture during the Renaissance show an unproblematic, unconstrained, open flourishing of pagan culture, right in the heart and midst of the supposed Catholic-dominated culture.

Johnson supported 1871, in Italy, deposing the pope system, stripping the popes of temporal legal political power. As in: “England is good and sensible. Down with Italian Popery and their bunk, invented-in-1500 fraudulent monk-forged Christianity and New Testament, and monks tampering with pagan texts to falsely retroject Christianity into antiquity.”


What topics are required, for me to specify in skeleton outline, my neo-chronology for entheogenic/political origins of Christianity in 1450? What assertions are *most relevant* in stating and summarizing what my theory asserts?

o The following didn’t exist in antiquity: Jesus, Paul, Church Fathers, New Testament, Christianity, Catholic church

o Christianity began as a synagogue-network-like house-church grassroots egalitarian alternative to the hierarchical social-political system that pagan kings advocated. Christianity was then co-opted and taken over by the pagan kings now restyled as Catholic bishops.

o That happened in 1450-1550. The following were fictionally invented and retrojected, or concretely started, around 1500: Jesus, Paul, Church Fathers in antiquity, New Testament, Christianity, Catholic church.

o The so-called “15th” Century aka 8th actual century since Augustus Caesar; 1400-1500 aka 700-800. Paganism continuing in full flourish from antiquity, with Jewish Diaspora-inspired grassroots house-church Christianity, just barely beginning to form then, with no official top-down co-opted version of Catholic Christianity on the scene yet.

o The time axis from the period of Augustus Caesar to Martin Luther was artificially stretched and padded by 700 years that didn’t actually exist. 700 CE aka 1400; 750 aka 1450; 825 aka 1525; 2012 aka 1312 CE. We must start with the new, compressed, un-stretched timeline, and assign all events that actually occurred, to points on this new, corrected time-axis.

o Culture (kings, aristocracy, popular religion) was entirely and solely pagan up to the creation of Christianity around 1500 aka 800. When grassroots Christianity was formed after the Diaspora of Jews from Spain, the thoroughly, purely pagan kings restyled themselves as “Catholic”, “bishops”, and started adding a little bit of Christian figures into their sickly decadent (oppressively expensive and extravagant) pagan pleasure palaces (shown in Godwin’s book The Pagan Dream of the Renaissance).

o The New Testament was written around 1525 by top-down directed groups of monastic monks in factory-like monasteries, managed and directed. They recopied pagan works from antiquity, tampered with those in a managed though flawed way, to retroject Christianity into Antiquity by tampering with pagan documents during copying, as if we let Catholic monks freely edit the official encyclopedia we all use.

These monks forged a loose system of pseudo-ancient Church Father writings, and after that, they forged and revised the Pauline epistles (Marcion, for example, among the original house-church movement around 1450/750, originated the Pauline writings, then the several factions of monks redacted those, working out a hodge-podge inconsistent collection of views attributed to the fictional “Paul” author-figure).

Topics that are less-central but related to those:
o Re-studying Western Esotericism through 1500
o Pagan and Christian culture in Byzantium Eastern Holy Roman Empire 476 – 800 aka 1500, arriving in Western Europe
o Jewish Diaspora from Spain into Western Europe
o Islam origins and timeline


The goal here with the less-central, extended topics is to recreate the cultural situation around Western Europe 700 – 850 (aka 1400 – 1550) This requires re-assigning events to dates on the corrected time-axis, for events in the regions of Byzantium, Italy, France/Gaul, Germany, Spain/Jews/Islam, England & Ireland.

When Jews were exiled from Spain and entered Europe, Christianity didn’t exist. Jews knew how to rework Islamic writings and form Jewish pseudo-ancient writings. Jews knew about esotericism, ciphering, conjuring, magic, double-meanings, mystic/mythic metaphor, hiding and revealing, Egodeath, entheogen initiations, forgery, and illusions. The European, purely pagan aristocracy of the 15th Century knew about all these things too.

The populace of the purely pagan kingdoms liked the Jewish social support network synagogues, which provided a separate, egalitarian system, a society within a society. Transpose the 150 CE Christian origins story, per Richard Horsley, to the so-called “15th” Century, when Christianity *actually* was invented.


What our Catholic-defined Chronology falsely labelled as the “15th” Century is, in reality, the 8th Century; that is, century since Augustus Caesar. Christianity’s origin must be pushed later by 600 years: not 150, but 750, aka 1450. This is not starting Christianity *1300* years later, from 150 to 1450; ‘1450’ is a misnomer and the real year there is only 750.

Despite the deceiving number-label of ‘1450’, this theory actually only delays Christian origins by 600 years, not by 1300 years, compared to the familiar tale of New Testament origins in 150. The New Testament was written 600 or 675 years later than today’s scholars think: around 750 or 825 (aka 1450 or 1525), not 150. The first Christian house churches may have been 750 aka 1450, and the first Catholic redactions and writing of the New Testament may have been around 825 aka 1525.


The pagan kings fought against this grassroots popular Jewish-derived system; they persecuted the Jews because the Jews (from the Spanish Diaspora) were egalitarian and didn’t play along with the pagan kings’ honor-shame hierarchy (in the 15th Century). The grassroots revolution was very popular and very successful. You can’t have an honor-shame hierarchy that the lower 90% of the pyramid refuses to go along with. The pagan kings were forced by the populace to abandon the hated pagan system, which was thoroughly identified with the hierarchical political arrangement, and were forced to re-style themselves as Christian rulers, bishops.

The rulers couldn’t resist this new, Jewish-inspired, Jewish-modelled egalitarian popular social system, so they had to instead co-opt it, including through a loosely systematic programme of literary forgery. The New Testament had to strike a balance between factions: egalitarian, hierarchical, factions of monks. The council of Trent didn’t happen in antiquity, nor Eusebius’ bogus, retrojected Church History — where these factions fought it out; it happened around 1500 (aka 800).


I’m very accustomed to living in 150 and observing how Christianity was formed then. I’m surprised to find myself so at-sea, regarding the start of Christianity in 1450 aka 750. I feel almost as disoriented as I felt around 1999 when I started seriously looking at Christian history and the New Testament meaning.

It took me from October 27, 1985 to January 11, 1988 to go from not knowing anything about transcendent control of the mind, to discovering my breakthrough core Theory (the Cybernetic, rather than Oneness, Theory of Ego Transcendence).

It took me from January 1999 (or possibly a little bit of a start in 1997 at Mindspace forum) to November 12, 2001 to go from knowing nothing about interpreting the New Testament, knowing nothing about myth or Greco-Roman culture, or entheogen history, to discovering my breakthrough theory: The Entheogen-Cybernetic-Heimarmene theory of the New Testament, and subsequently of all myth-religion.

I started working with Edwin Johnson’s revised chronology around 2003, per my Study Version of Edwin Johnson’s The Pauline Epistles.

The Pauline Epistles – Re-Studied and Explained
Edwin Johnson
http://egodeath.com/edwinjohnsonpaulineepistles.htm

It’s hard to say how long I’ve been working on Chronology revision, so far. The subject is more periphery, further from the core of the Egodeath theory, than the subject of deciphering myth in terms of cybernetics, heimarmene, and dissociation.

The nonexistence of Christianity until 1450, and the Catholic artificial stretching of the timeline of history by 700 years, is as unimportant for the Egodeath theory as the existence of Jesus or Paul or the Church Fathers in antiquity.


I am not afraid of the future criticizing me for liking Chronology Revision or ahistoricity. I am afraid that the future will say:

“Michael Hoffman was smart, figured out the Cybernetic nature of Ego Transcendence, and how to decipher myth, but he was a deeply deluded as everyone else during the Dark Ages of the modern era, because he failed to consider whether Jesus and Paul and Christianity in antiquity even existed at all. He did as well as we can expect from his deluded era he worked in. We have to excuse Michael Hoffman for being so gullible and so profoundly out of touch with reality as everyone else around him was.

He was such a critical thinker, yet so gullible and uncritical on the most basic, elementary facts of Christian origins. Too bad he was so half-baked, such an unstable oil-and-water mixture; if only he had lived up to his potential and been a consistent critical thinker, with follow-through. Instead, like other people, he only solved one fraction of the puzzle of the nature and history of myth and religion.”

I was afraid of someone else out-radicalling me, therefore I prevented that by erring on the side of going to the 100% extreme. I’m always criticizing entheogen scholars and liberal Jesus scholars for being milquetoast, for being inconsistently critical, only half-critical, a mixture of critical and uncritical. If you are going to call yourself a “radical” “critic”, then be 100% radical, and be 100% critical — not a mix of uncritical/gullible/blind, and critical/discerning/perceptive.

I want to leave *nothing* for anyone else to discover, nothing but insignificant crumbs. “Michael Hoffman absolutely *nailed* this entire field; he left *nothing* for us to figure out and improve on to any significant extent, as far as all the basics, the entire skeleton framework, all the revolutionary science. He left nothing for us but normal science work, filling-in his paradigm.”

I am the Copernicus of the Egodeath theory, including the Cybernetics/ Heimarmene/ Dissociation core, the entire mythic metaphor mapping including the Maximal Entheogen Theory, and, almost tantamount, almost entailed, also covering Maximal Ahistoricity of Christian Origins (that is, incorporating and integrating the work of Edwin Johnson). That’s enough, that’s sufficient. I leave the remainder to other sleuths (picture: pathetic crumbs).

Other sleuths: “Revolutionary discovery: Jesus used mushrooms!”

The figure of Jesus was fabricated in 1450. ‘1450’ is a number attached to the era by scheming, forging, Catholic monks. That era was actually 700 years less removed from the period of the reign of Augustus Caesar; the year we call ‘1450’ is actually 750. All religion through the year we call ‘1450’ was based on mushrooms, including the newly invented Christian religion.

No one in antiquity ever heard of Christianity. As all scholars know (it is uncontroverted), Constantine’s “cross” was not the Christian t-shaped crucifixion cross, but the Chi-Rho (X with P overlaid) pagan cross of victory. The only evidence for the existence of Christianity in antiquity is literary, and that “evidence” is demonstrably forgery that uses a loosely systematic scheme.


Where is the right place to draw the line, in being skeptical and revisionist? First, distinguish between Core and Periphery, with degrees along that axis. That’s an important line to draw, like:

o Inner core (cybernetics, heimarmene, dissociation)
o Outer core (mythic metaphor for the above*)
o Inner periphery (no Jesus or Paul)
o Outer periphery (no Church Fathers or Christianity or New Testament in antiquity; compress the Catholic time-axis by 700 years)


*That seems to necessarily imply putting the Maximal Entheogen Theory of history/myth/metaphor here too, argued as follows.

Metaphor is close to the Theory core because metaphor is helpful to explain and represent the content of the core.

To say “mythic metaphor is about the use of dissociation to perceive cybernetic personal noncontrol and no-free-will”, in my thinking that’s tantamount to saying that all myth is entheogenic and thus that since myth is ubiquitous, entheogen use was ubiquitous. According to my thinking, you can’t say “Generally and normally, as a rule, myth is about dissociation/cybernetics/heimarmene” but then say “Entheogens were used in only 10% of such myth.” How can 90% of myth that’s about dissociation and what it reveals, not involve entheogens?

To assert that, you *must* adopt the stupid and totally unjustified, vague, arm-waving “alien primitive psychology” theory, that is no theory at all, but is merely throwing up one’s arms, saying that there is no specific explanation — people other than us moderns are mysterious primitives who were so impressed by ritual, such as dinner banquet protocol, they went into a dissociative loose-cog state when they watched a play at dinner, like we watch TV with a TV dinner. What kind of “theory” is that? It’s not even an explanation in any sense. It’s a “make sh*t up” arm-waving, waving-aside the problem and the lack of any real explanation.

Does it make any sense to tear apart the two theories, though the one assertion entails the other?:

o Mythic metaphor means dissociation revealing cybernetics limitations in light of heimarmene. This is in the outer core of my Egodeath theory.

o Myth (throughout history) is about the use of entheogens. This is in the inner periphery of my Egodeath theory.

Does entheogen history (my Maximal Entheogen Theory of Religion), belong in the Outer Core of my Egodeath theory, or in the Inner Periphery? There are arguments for both. I assert that mythic metaphor is about the use of entheogens to perceive noncontrol and no-free-will/presetness of thoughts — that implies my Maximal Entheogen Theory of Mythic Metaphor and Religion, and Culture. If myth is about entheogens for perceiving something, then entheogens have to have been used centrally and heavily wherever myth is found throughout history.

You cannot say that the entheogen theory of mythic metaphor, to cause dissociation and perceive cybernetics and heimarmene, is in the outer core, but that the Maximal Entheogen Theory of history/myth/metaphor is in the inner periphery, because the entheogen theory of mythic metaphor is tantamount to the Maximal Entheogen Theory of history/myth/metaphor; they entail each other; they are two ways of asserting the same thing.

The Core of the Egodeath Theory (innermost first):
1. Cybernetics
2. Heimarmene
3. Dissociation
—-
4. Metaphor
—-
Ahistoricity, Chronology Revision, no Christianity in antiquity

“No Christianity in antiquity” includes “Martin Luther and disputatious monk factions wrote the New Testament” (like Jefferson and Adams disagreeing but cooperating to craft a new political system).

— Michael Hoffman, November 4, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 5982 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 05/11/2012
Subject: Re: Intro to Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence
I added a link to my 1997 core summary article
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath/message/5870
at the home page of the Egodeath Yahoo discussion group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath/
This article is as important as my later, main article, which added entheogen history, mythic metaphor, and Christian origins.
Group: egodeath Message: 5983 From: tolderoll Date: 05/11/2012
Subject: Re: Edwin Johnson: 700-1400 AD didn’t exist, Benedictine false-chron
I’ve been interested in the false-chronology theory as you’ve presented it, but the claims presented here have significant difficulties. The collections of correspondence and sermons by Augustine of Hippo discovered in the last 1980’s match and expand upon late imperial material and are written in a Latin vernacular that essentially disappears from Europe with Augustine’s generation.

These letters and sermons depend upon some accepted form of the New Testament, whether the one we’ve inherited or not.

Pseudo-Dionysius also presents similar problems of being contemporaneous with late-antiquity Pagan authors.

Why do you reject Porphyry’s /Against the Christians/ as evidence of Christians in late antiquity, or the destruction of the temple of Serapsis in Roman Egypt?

When you say Luther wrote the New Testament, do you mean he wrote a redaction which is what we inherited? That seems the only way to explain all of the codices which predate him.

— In egodeath@yahoogroups.com, egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> New Chronology and recent invention of Christianity
>
> Reading with *great* skepticism Joscelyn Godwin’s book The Pagan Dream of the Renaissance, this idea just occurred to me:
>
> Per my previous posts about Edwin Johnson’s chronology revisionism, Christianity didn’t exist in the Roman Empire of antiquity, which is why there’s no evidential trace of Christianity in antiquity. Here is a way to resolve my conflicting assertions (that the New Testament was written during the Roman Imperial era as a rebuttal to Caesar & the honor-shame hierarchy, and that the New Testament was written by Martin Luther in 1525 aka 825).
>
> The New Testament was not a rebuttal to Caesar’s honor-shame hierarchy as a current event, but rather, as a past, proxy event. The New Testament is actually criticizing the scheme of aristocracy around 1500, represented in the form of Caesar’s system. Pagan myth wasn’t rediscovered in 1400 aka 700. It never was forgotten in the first place. Why did Christian clergy permit pagan myth to be added to their thousand-year old Christian culture? Because Christian culture was actually brand new. Contrast the official — which is, the Catholic — chronology versus the Johnson chronology.
>
> Catholic Chronology:
> 1 CE – Augustus Caesar, Jesus Christ
> 150 – New Testament written. Upstart Christianity within pagan-dominated culture.
> 475 – Fall of Rome, end of pagan culture.
> … Dark Ages. Catholic Church rules and totally dominates for 1000 years.
> 1450 – Printing press. Re-birth of ancient culture/Renaissance. Sudden complete, rich rediscovery of pagan culture, somehow allowed by the Church even though the Church was all-dominant.
> 1525 Luther
>
> Johnson Chronology:
> 1 CE – Augustus Caesar
> 475 – Fall of Rome, pagan culture continues
> 650 – Islam
> 750 aka 1450 – Printing press. Pagan culture continues (no “Renaissance”; antiquity culture never died)
> 825 aka 1525 – Luther & monks write the New Testament, advocating egalitarian social-political system. Upstart Christianity within pagan-dominated culture.
>
> 700-1400 didn’t exist; 700 is aka 1400; any events that actually happened really happened, but all the real events happened within a shorter span of time between the fall of Rome and Luther, than the Catholic chronology claims.
>
> Johnson’s chronology explains why pagan themes were so prevalent during the 1450-1650 period (aka 750-950). Christianity was a brand new upstart religion in 1450, against a backdrop of strongly dominant, continuing pagan culture, which was still fresh from the recent fall of Rome.
>
> I will reword my “New Testament counter-Caesar, counter-hierarchical” assertion to be agnostic and independent of whether the NT was written 150 CE or 825 aka 1525 CE. Whenever it was written, the NT was expressed in the form of counter-Caesar. But it is unclear whether the NT was written against a current Caesar of 150 CE, or, was actually written against the hierarchical aristocracy of 1525 aka 825.
>
> Edwin Johnson is more interesting than Pinchbeck et al.
>
> One moment I’m writing “BS!” in Ruck’s book where it says Mr. Historical Paul used entheogens, and the next moment I’m writing “BS!” in Godwin’s book where it says that pagan culture was “re-” this and “re-” that: rediscovered, revitalized, recovered, reborn, et cetera. The art evidence strains credulity. Clear looking at the evidence — I’ve noted this for years — shows a suspiciously comfortable, familiar presence of pagan culture in the midst of *supposedly* totally Catholic-dominated culture.
>
> I call “BS” on the official scenario, which is the Catholic chronology. Catholic culture of 1450 didn’t “tolerate” the “rebirth” of pagan culture — rather, Catholic culture had barely been invented in 1450 aka 750, amidst continued thriving, all-dominant pagan culture. The “survival of paganism” after 1000 years of total Christian dominance, then sudden rich, fanatical, full rebirth and recovery of paganism? Implausible. Those 1000 years are fictional, nonexistent, a trick with number-labels, generating a thousand years of Catholic dominance out of a mere attaching of a number.
>
> It will take years of scholarly detective and re-theorizing, chronology revisionism work, to consider Edwin Johnson. I cannot commit to that work. Johnson raises good, profound, fundamental questions that must be raised about the history-tales and year-numbers we have received from the Catholic church, those power-mongering magicians of history; those fanatical monks, “preservers of knowledge”, want to rule all the world.
>
> Our calendars are off by 700 years. It’s not 2012; it’s 1312 A.D., i.e. since Augustus Caesar.
>
> — Michael Hoffman, November 3, 2012 aka 1312
>
Group: egodeath Message: 5984 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 06/11/2012
Subject: Re: Edwin Johnson: 700-1400 AD didn’t exist, Benedictine false-chron
Does Edwin Johnson address any of those problems? He died suddenly. Any answers I give are going to be what Johnson said, or what I imagine Johnson would’ve said had he lived longer. I would extremely appreciate it if people would identify what the main problems with Johnson’s model are, and what the possible rebuttals to those objections would be.

I posted a very useful list of Johnson’s books, probably earlier in this thread. One good book online vanished as soon as I posted the link.

At this point, I am collecting objections. My conventional reading of Christian history books left some holes but at least it’s possible to identify those holes; the overall model or framework is clear. Perhaps 2 years of intensive research and idea-development could figure out Johnson’s completed paradigm, how it would address the objections, what the interesting ramifications are.

Reading Johnson is extremely rewarding and interesting as an exercise in critical thinking — he is more a radical critic than the other, semi-radical semi-critics.

Johnson is unclear. He says Jewish religion existed in antiquity but not like in the way the Jewish pseudo-history texts say.
___________

An inherent challenge is that you have to re-envision pagan late-late Classical, post-Fall culture with *no* Christian aspects existing yet, and, attach two centuries to every date. Ask the question one way, a specific proposal sounds impossible; another way, easy:


Did Classical pagan entheogenic mystery banqueting, initiations, altar-sacrifices, and processions continue to 1400? The Catholic history paradigm says:

No way. There were a thousand years of Christian Middle Ages separating 1400 from the culture of antiquity.


Here’s the same question worded differently:

Did Classical pagan entheogenic mystery banqueting, initiations, altar-sacrifices, and processions continue to 700 (aka 1400), given that no Christianity existed during 500 BCE to 500 CE? The Johnson paradigm says:

Yes, naturally; by default. There was no Christianity to suppress Classical pagan culture, so the momentum continued, by default, for 200 years after the Fall of Rome, including Greco-Roman myth themed entheogen banqueting and initiations and processions. People could choose from Greco-Roman dominated classical themes, or nothing. They could have Persian or Egyptian stylings, or, perhaps, ancient Jewish stylings — but Christian themes simply didn’t exist at all, yet.

Therefore, the religious culture of 700 was the same as the religious culture of 500 BCE to 500 CE. That explains the un-self-consciously purely pagan style of the kings of the 15th Century. These kings were immersed in the only choice, which was Western Esotericism including ancient and recent Jewish esotericism themes.

____________________

“Jewish” represents egalitarian social-political system.
“Pagan” represents hierarchical social-political system.

Around 1999 I asked how in the hell did a *Jewish* (variant) religion take over the thoroughly *pagan* classical culture in antiquity? Per Richard Horsley, the answer was: Jewish religion embodied an appealing, popular egalitarian political arrangement (psycho-political-economic-social; preferable to the honor-shame hierarchy). Then the pagan rulers restyled themselves as Catholic Christian bishops in order to take over and co-opt the successful popular movement, make it uniform and controllable as a profitable franchise, sneaking hierarchy back into again, into the egalitarian house-church early Christian popular grassroots religion and social movement.

That is essentially uncontroverted; it’s practically the standard official view of Christian origins. Johnson disputes the time-frame, but almost all of the dynamics remain coherent when that official story is transposed onto Johnson’s model.


Per Johnson, the sequence is this:

Classical antiquity, continuing post-Fall

Some Jewish religion in antiquity

Islam

Jews, inspired by Islamic pseudo-history literary conjuring, rewrite Jewish history, retrojecting Jewish history into classical history.

Jewish Diaspora from Spain

In still purely classical-pagan-styled Western Europe, which continues to be ruled by divine-right-of-kings hierarchy, classical texts arrive with refugees from Constantinople, and Jewish pseudo-history texts and egalitarian social structures arrive with the Jewish, egalitarian refugees from Spain.

The populace hates the oppressive honor/shame hierarchy that continues unchallenged (so far) from classical culture, in which entheogen initiation banqueting, altar-sacrifices, and processions are used to justify the aristocratic hierarchy of society. The Jewish egalitarian system is highly appealing. The grassroots populace desires to have the Jewish egalitarian system but without the Jewish separation-rules.

So early house-church Christianity in 750 aka 1450 creates the Jesus figure out of available themes, counter to ‘Caesar’ (representing divine right of kings; hierarchy), and starts using the Islam/Jewish conjuring-tricks with history literature, to co-opt the Jewish religion to force the Jewish religion to lead to a Jewish pro-populace, egalitarian figure who does away with the Jewish separation-commandments (circumcision, sacrifice-related food restrictions).

Then the pagan rulers see how they’ve lost control of the story, to prop up their oppressive hierarchy, so they restyle themselves as bishops, and pour their sick amounts of money (stolen from the people) into huge factory-like monasteries, in which the monks are directed to do the Islamic/Jewish text-conjuring tricks to retroject Christianity back into the classical era and earlier. Then, there was no need for actual Jews; they said this history was nonsense and that their own fake redacted pseudo-history that they conjured up was the true history.

So the Jews were eliminated, in order to take over their bunk history, and make a new bunk history, that first favored the egalitarian-loving populace, and soon after, the hierarchy-loving pagan-become-Catholic rulers.


The so-called “Renaissance Humanists” were *not* antiquarians within a long-Christian culture; they were merely the same old classical pagan intellectuals as ever, with Christianity the brand new player in town, as of 750 (aka 1450).

But now thanks to the inspiration that the Diaspora Jews brought, with their fake-history techniques and their grassroots-popular egalitarian system, and then in reaction the ruling-class takeover of that in Catholic form, the so-called “Humanists” — that is, the same, old, continuing classical pagan culture of mystery entheogen banquet initiations, sacrifices, processions — were outnumbered and left behind — not in 500, but in 825 aka 1525.

First, in antiquity, there was Western Esotericism in pagan, Greco-Roman form. Then, around 700 (1400), Jewish esotericism was added to that. Finally, at the late date of 1525, some Christian esotericism themes were developed and added. That is what I perceive in the history of Western Esotericism.

What can we eagerly hope to discover in Johnson’s system, and shoving all existing evidence into that arrangement to see what happens? Exciting developments in our understanding of the intensity of richness of entheogenic Western Esotericism.

— Michael Hoffman, November 5, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 5985 From: egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 06/11/2012
Subject: Re: Edwin Johnson: 700-1400 AD didn’t exist, Benedictine false-chron
Important posting with links to Johnson’s books:

Books by Edwin Johnson
egodeath (Michael Hoffman)
Thu Oct 6, 2011 11:40 pm
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath/message/5249

He treats the author Augustine like the author Paul: there is no single person “Augustine”. It’s an empty authorial cipher filled-in by various monkish authors.

http://egodeath.com/edwinjohnsonpaulineepistles.htm

Chapter 8: Jerome and Augustine: The “Illustrious” Biblical Scholars.

“Jerome,” “Augustine,” and Other Latins Are Merely Masks for the Same Monastic Faction.

The Alleged Handbook of “Cassiodorus,” In Use for 1,000 Years!

The Decree of the Council of Trent, 1546, as a Landmark.

The Epistles Were Composed in Latin.

The Tales about the “Old Vulgate” Are Misleading and Designed to Mislead: No Texts Are Very Old.

The Monasteries whence Our Latin Manuscripts Come: Verona, Vercelli, Bobbio.

The Muratori Fragment

The French and Swiss Monasteries; St. Germain, Reichenau, St. Gall, St. Irenaeus, Lyons, English Manuscripts

Evidence from the Catalogue of the Benedictine of Bury St. Edmund’s.
Group: egodeath Message: 5986 From: tolderoll Date: 06/11/2012
Subject: Re: Edwin Johnson: 700-1400 AD didn’t exist, Benedictine false-chron
Thank you for such a well-thought reply. Your reading lists are so thorough it’s sometimes difficult to determine the best place to begin. I’m taking a seminar on changes in the concept of sanctity in Christendom from late antiquity through the middle ages, so it’s been great reading your discussions of this perspective.

Once the semester is over, I will take the time to go through Johnson’s material.

— In egodeath@yahoogroups.com, egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> Does Edwin Johnson address any of those problems? He died suddenly. Any answers I give are going to be what Johnson said, or what I imagine Johnson would’ve said had he lived longer. I would extremely appreciate it if people would identify what the main problems with Johnson’s model are, and what the possible rebuttals to those objections would be.
>
> I posted a very useful list of Johnson’s books, probably earlier in this thread. One good book online vanished as soon as I posted the link.
>
> At this point, I am collecting objections. My conventional reading of Christian history books left some holes but at least it’s possible to identify those holes; the overall model or framework is clear. Perhaps 2 years of intensive research and idea-development could figure out Johnson’s completed paradigm, how it would address the objections, what the interesting ramifications are.
>
> Reading Johnson is extremely rewarding and interesting as an exercise in critical thinking — he is more a radical critic than the other, semi-radical semi-critics.
>
> Johnson is unclear. He says Jewish religion existed in antiquity but not like in the way the Jewish pseudo-history texts say.
> ___________
>
> An inherent challenge is that you have to re-envision pagan late-late Classical, post-Fall culture with *no* Christian aspects existing yet, and, attach two centuries to every date. Ask the question one way, a specific proposal sounds impossible; another way, easy:
>
>
> Did Classical pagan entheogenic mystery banqueting, initiations, altar-sacrifices, and processions continue to 1400? The Catholic history paradigm says:
>
> No way. There were a thousand years of Christian Middle Ages separating 1400 from the culture of antiquity.
>
>
> Here’s the same question worded differently:
>
> Did Classical pagan entheogenic mystery banqueting, initiations, altar-sacrifices, and processions continue to 700 (aka 1400), given that no Christianity existed during 500 BCE to 500 CE? The Johnson paradigm says:
>
> Yes, naturally; by default. There was no Christianity to suppress Classical pagan culture, so the momentum continued, by default, for 200 years after the Fall of Rome, including Greco-Roman myth themed entheogen banqueting and initiations and processions. People could choose from Greco-Roman dominated classical themes, or nothing. They could have Persian or Egyptian stylings, or, perhaps, ancient Jewish stylings — but Christian themes simply didn’t exist at all, yet.
>
> Therefore, the religious culture of 700 was the same as the religious culture of 500 BCE to 500 CE. That explains the un-self-consciously purely pagan style of the kings of the 15th Century. These kings were immersed in the only choice, which was Western Esotericism including ancient and recent Jewish esotericism themes.
>
> ____________________
>
> “Jewish” represents egalitarian social-political system.
> “Pagan” represents hierarchical social-political system.
>
> Around 1999 I asked how in the hell did a *Jewish* (variant) religion take over the thoroughly *pagan* classical culture in antiquity? Per Richard Horsley, the answer was: Jewish religion embodied an appealing, popular egalitarian political arrangement (psycho-political-economic-social; preferable to the honor-shame hierarchy). Then the pagan rulers restyled themselves as Catholic Christian bishops in order to take over and co-opt the successful popular movement, make it uniform and controllable as a profitable franchise, sneaking hierarchy back into again, into the egalitarian house-church early Christian popular grassroots religion and social movement.
>
> That is essentially uncontroverted; it’s practically the standard official view of Christian origins. Johnson disputes the time-frame, but almost all of the dynamics remain coherent when that official story is transposed onto Johnson’s model.
>
>
> Per Johnson, the sequence is this:
>
> Classical antiquity, continuing post-Fall
>
> Some Jewish religion in antiquity
>
> Islam
>
> Jews, inspired by Islamic pseudo-history literary conjuring, rewrite Jewish history, retrojecting Jewish history into classical history.
>
> Jewish Diaspora from Spain
>
> In still purely classical-pagan-styled Western Europe, which continues to be ruled by divine-right-of-kings hierarchy, classical texts arrive with refugees from Constantinople, and Jewish pseudo-history texts and egalitarian social structures arrive with the Jewish, egalitarian refugees from Spain.
>
> The populace hates the oppressive honor/shame hierarchy that continues unchallenged (so far) from classical culture, in which entheogen initiation banqueting, altar-sacrifices, and processions are used to justify the aristocratic hierarchy of society. The Jewish egalitarian system is highly appealing. The grassroots populace desires to have the Jewish egalitarian system but without the Jewish separation-rules.
>
> So early house-church Christianity in 750 aka 1450 creates the Jesus figure out of available themes, counter to ‘Caesar’ (representing divine right of kings; hierarchy), and starts using the Islam/Jewish conjuring-tricks with history literature, to co-opt the Jewish religion to force the Jewish religion to lead to a Jewish pro-populace, egalitarian figure who does away with the Jewish separation-commandments (circumcision, sacrifice-related food restrictions).
>
> Then the pagan rulers see how they’ve lost control of the story, to prop up their oppressive hierarchy, so they restyle themselves as bishops, and pour their sick amounts of money (stolen from the people) into huge factory-like monasteries, in which the monks are directed to do the Islamic/Jewish text-conjuring tricks to retroject Christianity back into the classical era and earlier. Then, there was no need for actual Jews; they said this history was nonsense and that their own fake redacted pseudo-history that they conjured up was the true history.
>
> So the Jews were eliminated, in order to take over their bunk history, and make a new bunk history, that first favored the egalitarian-loving populace, and soon after, the hierarchy-loving pagan-become-Catholic rulers.
>
>
> The so-called “Renaissance Humanists” were *not* antiquarians within a long-Christian culture; they were merely the same old classical pagan intellectuals as ever, with Christianity the brand new player in town, as of 750 (aka 1450).
>
> But now thanks to the inspiration that the Diaspora Jews brought, with their fake-history techniques and their grassroots-popular egalitarian system, and then in reaction the ruling-class takeover of that in Catholic form, the so-called “Humanists” — that is, the same, old, continuing classical pagan culture of mystery entheogen banquet initiations, sacrifices, processions — were outnumbered and left behind — not in 500, but in 825 aka 1525.
>
> First, in antiquity, there was Western Esotericism in pagan, Greco-Roman form. Then, around 700 (1400), Jewish esotericism was added to that. Finally, at the late date of 1525, some Christian esotericism themes were developed and added. That is what I perceive in the history of Western Esotericism.
>
> What can we eagerly hope to discover in Johnson’s system, and shoving all existing evidence into that arrangement to see what happens? Exciting developments in our understanding of the intensity of richness of entheogenic Western Esotericism.
>
> — Michael Hoffman, November 5, 2012
> Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
>
Group: egodeath Message: 5987 From: Joe Date: 06/11/2012
Subject: ‘tv tropes’ wiki page and ego death metaphor
The wiki site ‘tvtropes.org’ is an excellent resource pertaining to the ‘metaphor’ quadrant of ego death theory; it contains an exhaustive list of generalised plot devices (or ‘tropes’) that typically occur in fictional stories. Each trope has its own page where it is described in detail, including a list of examples of where the trope occurs in fiction (such as movies, tv shows, mythology, computer games etc.). Many of the tropes are obviously (sometimes explicitly) interpreted as psychedelic/ego death metaphor, such as the following:

“Alien geometry” (“Alien Geometries are often depicted as being dangerous to the sanity of normal humans….just looking at this stuff can have an unpleasant effect on your mental stability”).
“Hyperspace Is a Scary Place” (“sure to be mind-bendingly different and hostile to conventional life”).
“Freak-out” (“the character goes through something traumatic enough to change their personality forever (even Freak Outs that are temporary have lasting effects on a character). It could be a Mind Rape or a really Awful Truth, but it has to be pretty nasty.”)

And there are many more examples, all explained in detail, including how the tropes relate to each other.

Max F

Recommendations for Entheogen Scholars

Site Map

Contents:

Summary of Recommendations

Summary of what I want Letcher & Hatsis to change, for the health of the field, instead of trying to destroy wholesale the field of Western mushroom scholarship and wholly deny Psilocybe in “our own”, Western religious history.

Applies to Ruck, Hoffman, & Heinrich as well.

  • Encourage people to find, upload, and tag many more images of mushroom shapes in Christian art and in Greek art.
  • Categorize images or text descriptions into 3 types or levels:
    • Literal depictions of mushrooms.
    • Stylized depictions of mushrooms.
    • Depictions of effects.
  • Discuss matching those images to either Liberty Cap, Cubensis, Amanita, or other Psilocybin-containing mushrooms.
    • Specimen photos side-by-side with art images.
      • Cubensis
      • Liberty Cap
      • Amanita
      • Fantastical-looking actual mushrooms
      • Italian Pines
      • ancient crucifixion nails
      • Amanita-styled containers
      • Parasol of Victory
      • Surrounding associated themes (not only mushroom shapes in isolation):
        • vine, ivy, grape leaves, snakes, Maenads.
        • grape-baskets, mushroom-shaped grape clusters.
        • Billowing cloth, lifted garment.
  • Shift the Focus from Allegro-Amanita-Christianity, to Graves-Psilocybe-Greek&Christian.
    • Move people away from the words ‘Allegro’ and ‘Amanita’ and only ‘Christian’.
    • Move people toward the words “Robert Graves” and ‘Psilocybe’, psilocybin, Liberty Cap, and Cubensis; and “Greek & Christian” (broadly; Hellenistic & Christendom).
    • Focus on the Mixed-Wine Banqueting Tradition throughout Antiquity; in Greek & Christian religion. Don’t separate that across two far-separated book chapters; it’s a single topic. The objectively ideal engine for Mixed-Wine is Psilocybe – not Amanita, Cannabis, Opium, or Scopolamine.
  • Discuss the preconceptions, bias, and a priori rejection of entheogen theory of religion, and committed skeptics who cannot possibly be persuaded by any evidence.

Moving the Field Away from Allegro-Amanita

I don’t follow the Allegro-centric crowd, I feel alienated and out-of-the-loop there.

Apparently, book sales are up, regarding the Allegro-Amanita focus, which I have no interest in, and want people to transition away from.  

Letcher, Hatsis, and I have some in common here: transition people away from Allegro-Amanita and a developing mythology around that.

I want to transition people toward a better approach, not deny the existence of the topic, of mushrooms in “our own” religious history.

I advocate an approach to the field of mushroom (or entheogen) historical scholarship, that is centrally focused around Psilocybe & the Mixed-Wine Banqueting Tradition in Antiquity.

My leverage-point, my center-of-focus, instead of Allegro-Amanita-Christianity, is: Mixed-Wine Banqueting.

The Mixed-Wine Banqueting Tradition applies to Christianity and Hellenistic religion & culture, and Mystery Religion initiation.  

Graves Instead of Allegro (but Shouldn’t Define the Field by a Personality)

Graves is the closest I can find to covering the correct scope, of Psilocybe in Greek & Christian religious history.  

Robert Graves completely lacks the pop punch of Allegro’s dust-jacket thesis and striking diagrammatic image of the Plaincourault tree.

Pope Wasson, and this fevered, controversial figment popularly called “Allegro”, stole the limelight from soft-spoken and mild Graves.

Ruck wrote that (Pope) Wasson dissuaded Graves from writing any more than his ~83 pages (according to my inventory) about entheogen scholarship.

Robert Graves’ Writings About Mushrooms
https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/robert-graves-writings-about-mushrooms/

I read Graves’ writing, saying that he stopped covering the topic of mushrooms, in order to protect his poetry book sales.  Graves’ Greek Myths book sold zillions of copies forever, and it talks about mushrooms in Greek religious myth, in the Foreward.  

Kicking Allegro Out of the Field of Entheogen Scholarship, to Save the Field

We should beware of defining a controverted scholarly field in terms of any one personality, as disastrously happened with Allegro.  

‘Allegro’ has come to mean a highly politicized idea, rather than a particular person who wrote a particular theory.

Allegro’s theory is an emphatically linguistic & (mouldering 19th C-type) anthropology theory — it’s not actually an entheogen-history theory.

Allegro’s book is not useful or relevant for entheogen history scholarship, and is actually harmful for the field, and should be considered an outlier, not properly within the field, as the field needs to be defined.

Cyberdisciple’s critical assessment of whether Allegro can be placed at all within the boundary of the field of entheogen history scholarship:

Addendum to Allegro article; How to accurately assess Allegro; quotations from Allegro’s introduction about philology and against history
Cyberdisciple, December 16, 2020
https://cyberdisciple.wordpress.com/2020/12/16/addendum-to-allegro-article-how-to-accurately-assess-allegro-quotations-from-allegros-introduction-about-philology-and-against-history/

See Also

https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/nav/#Entheogen-Scholarship — includes links – I copied a couple Nav sections to below, flagging recommended pages.

Entheogen Scholarship

The Letcher-Panofsky Intelligence Test

To read this website, you must first pass this Letcher-Panofsky intelligence test. -Cybermonk

Site Map > Andy Letcher

Contents:

The Test

Which of the following pictures matches the above picture: Picture A, Picture B, or Picture C?

Picture A:

Picture B:

Picture C:

Answer

The Correct Answer is: Either Picture B or Picture C.

It doesn’t matter whatsoever whether you pick B or C, and no one cares which one of those is deemed correct, just so long as the answer is: Anything-But-Mushrooms!

Airtight Proof

Remember Letcher’s indisputable proof-by-argument:

Not all mushrooms in Christian art represent psychoactive mushrooms used for religious experiencing.

Therefore, 99% of mushroom shapes in Christian art do not represent psychoactive mushrooms used for religious experiencing.

Therefore, mushroom shapes in Christian art do not represent psychoactive mushrooms used for religious experiencing.

Q.E.D.; Exoteric position saved!

This is how the problematic datum — that there are so damn many mushroom shapes in Christian art — is explained-away, in order to shore-up the exoteric position & worldview (literalist, ordinary-state, possibility-branching), and defend against the esoteric position (analogy-described, psychedelics-revealed, pre-existence of control-thoughts).

Image Sources

https://www.wisconsinmycologicalsociety.org/uploads/7/1/9/5/71959193/8004644_orig.jpg
https://www.wisconsinmycologicalsociety.org/mushroom-of-the-month/december-2015-psilocybe-cubensis — “Psilocybe cubensis is the most well-known psilocybin mushroom, due to its wide distribution and ease of cultivation. The species was first described in 1906, as Stropharia cubensis. ‘Psilocybe’ is from Greek psilos (ψιλος) and kubê (κυβη); “bald head”.

Page title:
Christian Mushroom Trees
Subsection title:
Italian Umbrella Pines
http://www.egodeath.com/christianmushroomtrees.htm#_Toc134497557

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Assyrian+parasol+of+victory
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ashurnasipal_with_official.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/Ashurnasipal_with_official.jpg

Tests of Mushroom-Trees in Great Canterbury Psalter, as Ronald Huggins Requested

Day 3 Plants 1 & 2: Trees, or Mushrooms?

Crop by Michael Hoffman

Day 4 Plants 1-4: Trees, or Mushrooms?

Crop by Michael Hoffman

Day 4 Plant 3: Tree, or Mushroom?

Crop by Michael Hoffman

Huggins’ Conclusion (ie. Commitment) Section

Foraging for Psychedelic Mushrooms in the Wrong Forest: The Great Canterbury Psalter as a Medieval Test Case (Ronald Huggins, 2024)

Foraging for Psychedelic Mushrooms in the Wrong Forest: The Great Canterbury Psalter as a Medieval Test Case (Ronald Huggins, 2024), https://egodeaththeory.org/2024/11/23/huggins-foraging-psychedelic-mushrooms-wrong-forest/ & https://www.academia.edu/118659519/Foraging_for_Psychedelic_Mushrooms_in_the_Wrong_Forest_The_Great_Canterbury_Psalter_as_a_Medieval_Test_Case

Cite: Huggins’ Conclusion section.

Day 3 plant 1 & 2 (Panaeolus & Liberty Cap mushroom-trees that have a L & R exact mushroom arm) (Letcher: “tree, not mushroom”

Day 4 plant 3 (exact Panaeolus, no branches) – Letcher: “tree [not mushroom]” [no branches, exact mushroom]

Deniers of mushroom imagery in Christian art make arguments that are insane, impressive in their bizarre and indefensible non-arg args like

“We can now form a set of rules [single arb rule] for deciding IF IT IS A TREE OR IT IS A MUSHROOM:

“The mushroom elements don’t count, because there are tree elements.

Q E D.

Because I say so, just ignore the mushroom elements, only count the tree elements.

The tree elements RULE OUT the mushroom elements.

Ronald Huggins Is Thus Ruled Out

How does this “ruling out” work, that Ronald Huggins repeatedly incants like magic words?

I have thus RULED OUT Huggins.

By pointing to the exact mushroom branches of day 3 plant 1 & 2.

By pointing to the exact non-branching day 4 plant 3, exact Panaeolus, that Huggins designates as a “tree” for no reason given – it has no branches at all.

See Also

Site Map > Andy Letcher
https://egodeaththeory.org/nav/#Andy-Letcher

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Michael Hoffman, B.S.E.E., explaining possibilism (lower fingers), altered-state eternalism (lower thumb); & integrated possibilism/ eternalism (upper fingers & thumb)

Vine-Leaf Trees Depicting Non-Branching

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Contents:

Brinckmann, Mushroom Trees, & Asymmetrical Branching
https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/12/11/brinckmann-mushroom-trees-asymmetrical-branching/

Grape Leaf Depictions in Greek & Christian Art

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=grape+leaves+greek+myth

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=ivy+greek+myth

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=mushroom+%22christian+art%22

todo: add image search links, & direct image remote-hosted links. Add only 1 image inline. here. Conserve, monitor, strategically control image storage space, a limited design resource. Analyze image storage usage; monitor usage; allocate the resource efficiently. Reuse existing images from adding from the media library. 22% used.

Folio 15 – Devil

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f15.item.zoom
The mushroom tree on the right is a hybrid vine-leaf + mushroom-cap tree, strengthening the Psalter’s art-theme of pairing of vine-leaf trees with mushroom trees. This is a stylized grapevine leaf, more than an ivy-vine leaf. The mushroom reveals the illusory nature of possibilities branching, with ego steering with power through the possibility-branching tree to create the future. {Vine leaf} represents {vine}, which represents non-branching, which is revealed by mushrooms.

Folio 107 Detail

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f107.item.zoom
hi-res
3-part leaves, venturing into mushroom shape (stem, left side of cap, right side of cap)
ivy leaves in Greek art. thyrssus with no pine cone.

Grape Leaf Photos

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=grape+leaves

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=grape+vine

Grape leaves vary a lot. Some are tripart. How to abstractly represent such variation? Jaggy 3-part leaves; that matches the stylized vine-leaf trees, except where there are 3 emphatically separated narrow leaves as a trio.

Snakes, Serpents, Ketos, Dragons, Drakones; and Vine Leaves

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=snake+ivy

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=snake+vine

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=snake+grape

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=serpent+ivy

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=serpent+vine

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grape vine leaves. thyrssus with leaf-cone hybrid of ivy leaves & pine cone.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-49ic0ExRhZI/WRX6xhLFFEI/AAAAAAAAHW0/t6sryVDv9-0M-LpD1Fx-CIjqsrg9SML1gCLcB/s1600/4-garden-of-hesperides.jpg
possibly stylized grape leaves in greek art
https://egodeaththeory.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/483fb-k12.18dionysos.jpg
grape leaves on left, ivy leaves on right

Ivy Leaf Depictions in Greek & Christian Art

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=ivy+greek+art

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=ivy+greek+myth

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=vine+greek+myth

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=grape+vine+greek+myth

Samorini Figure 12

upper left tree has ivy leaves.
Brinckmann, Mushroom Trees, & Asymmetrical Branching
https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/12/11/brinckmann-mushroom-trees-asymmetrical-branching/#Plate-8
Plate 8
Plate 8
https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_8AgwAAAAYAAJ/page/n77/mode/2up
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5e/fd/9a/5efd9af0ccbc7726029646f6a558df4d.jpg
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/268667933996820604/
3-part grape vine leaves
grape vine leaves, not differentiated from ivy vine leaves

Ivy Leaf Photos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedera
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/Hedera_helix_Leaves_3008px.jpg

Vine-Leaf Trees as a Companion to Mushroom Trees, = Non-Branching Revealed by Psilocybe

Plate 8

Brinckmann’s book, Plate 8
ivy-vine leaves in proximity with mushroom caps
My WordPress page:
Brinckmann, Mushroom Trees, & Asymmetrical Branching
Book at archive.org:
https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_8AgwAAAAYAAJ/page/n77/mode/2up

New Hypothesis-Construct: “Vine-Leaf Trees”, as a Companion to “Mushroom Trees”, = non-branching revealed by Psilocybe

[11:45 a.m. December 20, 2020]

How unrealistic the depicted vine-leaves are, is the same as how unrealistic (ie stylized) the mushroom stems & caps are.

  • Stylized mushroom-like trees.
  • Stylized ivy-leaf/ grape-leaf /vine-leaf-like trees. ‘vine leaves’ is Brinckmann’s term, nicely broad, including both ivy and grape leaves, as depicted by Greek images & photographs. Like I have a gallery page at ego death .com side by side muhroms and phtos mushrom art, mushroom photos, and Italian Pine photos. Similarly I need a WordPress page side-by-side:
  • Grape leaf photos
  • Grape leaf depictions in Greek & Christian art
  • Ivy leaf photos
  • Ivy leaf depictions in Greek & Christian art (including “dud mushroom trees”). Vine-Leaf Trees Depicting Non-Branching

Until I have reason not to, I’m tentatively categorizing the dud non-mushroom trees as “vine-leaf trees” per Brinckmann.

I cannot tell what his view is there, because only 1.25 chapters of 5 are translated to English.

I will try one more time to see if his german text at ‘vine’ points to a Plate Diagram image so I can see what shapes he means by ‘vine leaves’.

Brinckmann Identifies the Non-Sphere Trees, Non-Mushroom trees, to Be Vine Leaf Trees, = Non-Branching

update [12:33 p.m. December 20, 2020] —

image searches are inconclusive, neither confirming nor disconfirming, but I can conclude that it won’t be easy to disprove my hypothesis that the dud mushroom trees are — as Brinckmann seems to be saying — “vine-leaf trees“. I’m not getting definitive confirmation, I’m not getting definitive dis-confirmation. I’m spoiled, normally I get definitive confirmation.

This situation is what separates the theory-construction men from the boys. Are you able to continue developing a new explanatory framework while not having immediate confirmation; INVESTMENT IN a likely promising new explanatory framework.

To be a leading-edge winning investor, ahead of the curve, you have to be willing to invest in the new explanatory framework.

People who are never willing to invest in a not-fully-proved new explanatory framework, cannot ever be leading-edge. They are laggards, retarded by skepticism.

next todo: check German pages of the English translation, at “vine leaf” (4 hits), to see if he points to a Plate Diagram illustration to show what shape he means by “vine leaf”.

_____

[December 19, 2020]

Today, reading translated portions of Brinckmann’s book, he frequently talks of vine leaves coming out of an oak trunk. He sees it as stripped-down.

What he’s saying could be highly significant for the Egodeath theory — the Mytheme theory.

If we consider the “dud mushroom trees”, that are styled like mushroom trees except they have 3-part vine leaves instead of a sphere atop the stems, this is almost as helpful for the Egodeath theory (the Mytheme theory portion) as mushroom trees, and complements mushroom trees nicely, reinforcing the theme of “non-branching”.

Folio 92 – Does Brinckmann Consider These to Be “Vine Leaves”? Vine = Non-Branching
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f92.item.zoom

Folio 98 – Vine Leaf Tree Detail

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f98.item.zoom

Would Brinckmann say the leaves of the Pink Key Tree are “vine leaves”? {vine} is a major mytheme in the Mytheme theory, equivalent to {snake}, meaning non-branching; ie eternalism.

[12:12 p.m. December 20, 2020] Compare images of Thyrssus open-scaled pine cones with ivy leaves. I posted about that maybe 2011, you take the linear ivy leaves, per ancient Loose Cognitive Science, each leaf is a snapshot of your control-thoughts arrayed along your pre-existing worldline, then arrange them per pre-existence per gnosticism, all together at once, in an open-scaled pine cone on the thyrssus. thyrssus ivy leaves https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=thyrssus+ivy+leaves – a couple hits.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=thyrssus
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=dionysus+ivy
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=grape+leaf

http://www.greatdreams.com/blog/dionysus.jpg
http://www.greatdreams.com/blog/dee-blog93.html
3-part grape leaves
thyrssus with ivy vine leaves, no pine cone shown. ivy vine leaf crown.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/dd/17/c3/dd17c396067275518dd3ee20afb273e0.jpg
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/519954719472896136/
http://afewshotstoshaman.blogspot.com/2009/01/heart-of-matter_15.html
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_DeutwC_pLZ0/SW9DyouGBtI/AAAAAAAAAt0/miJk0Jfu–o/s1600-h/IB-Dionysus+Kleophrades.jpg
http://ii.designtoscano.com/fcgi-bin/iipsrv.fcgi?FIF=/images/toscano/source/KY4054_1.tif&cvt=jpeg
https://egodeaththeory.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/e6b0c-thyrsus.1992.11.0054.jpg
http://afewshotstoshaman.blogspot.com/2009/01/heart-of-matter_15.html
thyrssus with big ivy vine leaves
dup.
Maenad-with-thyrsus-stuffed-with-ivy-leaves-holding-a-leopard-and-wearing-a-leopard.png
the 1-dimensional Amanita-Allegro orbiters exclaim “spots! proves Amanita!”
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f134.item.zoom
2 narrow stem-leaves + trio of leaves.

Egodeath Yahoo Group – Digest 123: 2012-12-31

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Group: egodeath Message: 6242 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 31/12/2012
Subject: Re: Sitting, standing, riding, carried, ferried, walking
Group: egodeath Message: 6243 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 01/01/2013
Subject: Panther (leopard) in Ayahuasca, Dionysus, Medieval myth
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Group: egodeath Message: 6245 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 01/01/2013
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Group: egodeath Message: 6251 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 03/01/2013
Subject: Invisibility helmet, gatekeeper, dangers
Group: egodeath Message: 6252 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 03/01/2013
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Group: egodeath Message: 6254 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 04/01/2013
Subject: Re: Bk: Flights of Soul: Bib Visions, Heav Journeys, Pk Exper’s (Pil
Group: egodeath Message: 6255 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 05/01/2013
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Group: egodeath Message: 6256 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 05/01/2013
Subject: Re: Metaphor: Paul’s weakness, thorn in flesh
Group: egodeath Message: 6257 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 05/01/2013
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Group: egodeath Message: 6258 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 05/01/2013
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Group: egodeath Message: 6259 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 06/01/2013
Subject: Re: First drafts of the Theory in 1988
Group: egodeath Message: 6260 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 06/01/2013
Subject: Re: First drafts of the Theory in 1988
Group: egodeath Message: 6261 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 06/01/2013
Subject: Re: Hypotheses for objections, closure, safety
Group: egodeath Message: 6262 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 06/01/2013
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Group: egodeath Message: 6263 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 07/01/2013
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Group: egodeath Message: 6264 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 07/01/2013
Subject: Re: Extreme Radical Maximal Entheogen Theory of Religion
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Group: egodeath Message: 6266 From: michaelagryder Date: 07/01/2013
Subject: Re: Hypotheses for objections, closure, safety
Group: egodeath Message: 6267 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/01/2013
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Group: egodeath Message: 6271 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 09/01/2013
Subject: Defining new field: Theory of Loose Cognitive Phenomenology
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Group: egodeath Message: 6273 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 10/01/2013
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Subject: Rock worship & the Rock altar of sacrifice
Group: egodeath Message: 6275 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 11/01/2013
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Group: egodeath Message: 6276 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 12/01/2013
Subject: Re: Bk: Ruck/Hoffman: Entheogens, Myth, and Human Consciousness
Group: egodeath Message: 6277 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 13/01/2013
Subject: Re: Popularity of no-free-will/determinism, history of no-free-will
Group: egodeath Message: 6278 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 13/01/2013
Subject: Re: Hypotheses for objections, closure, safety
Group: egodeath Message: 6279 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 13/01/2013
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Group: egodeath Message: 6280 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 13/01/2013
Subject: Re: Rock worship & the Rock altar of sacrifice
Group: egodeath Message: 6281 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 14/01/2013
Subject: Efficient theory: compact binary contrast & labels, innovative ergon
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Group: egodeath Message: 6283 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 14/01/2013
Subject: Heaven & Hell, meaning-flipping metaphor; Naturalism
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Group: egodeath Message: 6242 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 31/12/2012
Subject: Re: Sitting, standing, riding, carried, ferried, walking
Stone rock marble is true banqueting bench / throne of the king. King is turned to stone by seeing snake medusa beauty note he sits on a throne always understand throne is already stone and understood already king by definition is understood to have been as sacred king, been turned to stone by priest of the god during initiation all civilized kings proper were psych/enth initiate.

Mh orig discovery/theory dev, Dec 31 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 6243 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 01/01/2013
Subject: Panther (leopard) in Ayahuasca, Dionysus, Medieval myth
The panther is the ultimate, perfect, superior hunter, more so than other felines. Hunters knew this; they would carry a panther sculpture to help their own hunt. Panthers don’t usually hunt humans, but when they do, they are perfect hunters. They swim, run, climb trees, they do everything, they are perfect hunters. You couldn’t design a better hunter. Panthers are seen positively; respected, admired, and generally they spare humans.

Actaeon is a hunter. He hunted around in his mind and saw the goddess Artemis/Diana unclothed bathing in the fountain in the back of his mind at the source of his thoughts. She punished him by turning him into a branching-antlered deer and his own hunting dogs tore him to pieces.

Branching is possibility branching illusion in the Possibilism model of spacetime, as opposed to the Eternalism model of spacetime, which only has virtual, stubbed branching, with only spacetime worms being real; hydras are branching snakes thus are illusory.

The mental worldmodel dis-integrates in the loose cognitive state. Mental constructs dis-integrate and awareness lifts up and out of them, unbinding from mental constructs.

Panthers were admired in Rome and were in the arena. Everything in the arena, as in culture, was seen in terms of myth, as throughout the culture, which was all based deliberately around psychedelics-induced loose-cognitive dynamics; personal noncontrol, or mental model transformation about personal control power; and block-universe fatedness.

The panther in “medieval” myth (though see Edwin Johnson’s chronology), lives in a cave (the cosmic/underground/mind cave) and its mouth breathes an attractive scent which attracts a creature except the dragon (heimarmene fatedness snake, spacetime worldline perceived with elevated, un-bound awareness) into the cave, where the panther kills the creature. The mind is attracted to the control-vortex capability and potential, in which psychotic-like (Maenad initiates) loss-of-control is tangled interpenetrating with transcendent knowledge.

Transcendent knowledge, tangled with psychotomimetic threat of loss of control along with transcending all desire and fear, is the pearl of great price held in the claw of the dragon or fire-breathing panther. Fire is the attractive desire for and pursuit of transcendent knowledge about personal control, time, and personal agent identity.

Thus I have successfully deciphered and described and explained why per Benny Shanon on Ayahuasca in the Americas has the 3 most common cognitive phenomenology mytheme metaphors and analogy visions of ‘snake’, ‘panther’, and ‘palace’ as well as ‘snake’ and ‘king’ being the two most common world myths including Greek myth, and why ‘panther’ is a major attribute of Dionysus.

This morning I confirmed that not only is the panther seen as a hunter, as I previously posted about, but the ultimate ideal hunter, and found that the panther breathes not fire but an attractive scent pulling creatures into its cave, and the panther lives in a cave.


The careless, in-passing statement, never-justified assertion, that the Scientific Method is about predictions and confirming them, and that’s what makes something Scientific, proves that my Theory is scientifically proven and verified. I predicted that myth always and only makes sense by using my interpretive key that myth means Cybernetics/Heimarmene/Dissociation. Time and again the moment I learn of a myth, it instantly fits into my core theory and periphery mapping theory of deciphering religious mythic mystic metaphor analogies. No serious book on Philosophy of Science ever asserts and explains that Prediction and Verification is what makes for Science. All sloppy, in-passing mentions, in poorly written books, always assert that Prediction and Verification through Observation is what makes for Science.

A noxiously widespread myth of the 20th Century, found in all inferior sloppy uncritical books, is that Philosophers of Science assert that Prediction and Verification is what makes for Science. But no actual Philosopher of Science asserts that Prediction and Verification through Observation is what makes for Science. Based on the junk notion that Prediction and Verification is what makes for Science, it is proven that the Egodeath theory is Science and is scientifically verified as scientific fact. As Einstein said about observation and data: If the data doesn’t agree with the theory, then too bad for the data. The theory is correct.

Feyerabend says that in reality, as a matter of historical fact, the real Scientific Method is “anything goes”. Kuhn’s mystical mysterious “paradigm shift” like then-mysterious religious conversion, left itself open to that irrationalist attack Feyerabend used. Paul Thagard’s Conceptual Revolutions offers a rational, discernable basis for understanding the sophisticated logic of the conversion of a scientist from an old theory to the new. I point out that often there is no “old theory”, just a heap of wild speculation. Another book argues that the new theory is not proved, yet, when a scientist converts, as being better or having greater explanatory power.

As I posted the other day, a scientist converts to the new theory when the scientist reckons, per Thagard, that the new theory is a better investment, like having greater stock appreciation potential. A leading scientist doesn’t wait until the new stock value exceeds the old. He beats the crowd: he invests in the new theory *before* its value is commonly recognized. Clearly since 1988 (core theory) and 2001 (myth deciphering), the Egodeath theory has all potential to offer greater explanatory power than the “old theory” given that there is no old theory, just a heap of shot-in-the-dark scattered fragments.

This is all original theory-development work based on my research and idea-development since 1985. I figured out how all these ideas fit together and are the most important idea-combination, forming the Egodeath theory including my Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence which came together in 1988, in my draft article as displayed in my undergrad graduation portrait photographs in Fall 1988 including some initial forays into deciphering myth in terms of self-control cybernetics, pre-existing single future block-universe determinism (Eternalism), and psychedelics-induced loose cognitive binding of mental constructs.

Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com, January 1, 2013
Copyright (C) 2013 Michael S. Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6244 From: egodeath@yahoogroups.com Date: 01/01/2013
Subject: File – EgodeathGroupCharter.txt
The Egodeath Yahoo group is a Weblog sent out by Michael Hoffman,
covering the cybernetic theory of ego death and ego transcendence,
including:

o Block-universe determinism/Fatedness, the closed
and preexisting future, tenseless time, free will as illusory, the
holographic universe, and predestination and Reformed theology.

o Cognitive science, mental construct processing, mental models,
ontological idealism, contemporary metaphysics of the continuant
self, cybernetic self-control, personal control agency, moral agency,
and self-government.

o Zen satori, short-path enlightenment, and Alan Watts;
transpersonal psychology, Ken Wilber, and integral theory.

o Entheogens and psychedelic drugs, mystery religions, mythic
metaphor and allegorical encoding, the mystic altered state, mystic
and religious experiencing, visionary states, religious rapture, and
Acid Rock mysticism.

o Loss of control, self-control seizure, cognitive instability, and
psychosis and schizophrenia.


— Michael Hoffman
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Group: egodeath Message: 6245 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 01/01/2013
Subject: Re: Scholars and scientists agree with the Egodeath theory
All fields lead to the Egodeath theory, unavoidably; the broad consensus picture of what we think we know is destined for collapse soon.

No-free-will is surprisingly extremely popular, now and in the history of Philosophy and Theology. Even though gleefully anti-rational freewillist QM is also popular. Not even Neurotheology has a clear view of the only theory that matters, the minimal, laser-focused Egodeath theory; the Cybernetic theory of ego transcendence.

The Egodeath theory includes but *combines*, and *only* combines, the popular niche topic of psychedelics and the recent new topic of entheogen history, the popular niche topic of anti-atheist religious experiencing capability, the popular niche topic of Eternalism and spacetime worms, and the topic of personal control, and the popular topic of myth, and the very new suddenly popular-breakthrough topic of ahistoricity of Jesus — now everyone is making an aside “I believe Jesus existed, but …” which they never would’ve said as recently as a couple years ago. Mad Rights is also trending upwards (insanity is barely discernable as being distinct from god consciousness).

As surely as the psychotomimetic mind’s thinking is being bent by the Black Blade of the Cult of Blue Oysters inward toward forcing one to think “I cannot resist the inevitable realization of being forced to go out of control”, we are headed toward transcendent disaster in collective scholarship: every thought we write certainly brings us in the labyrinth forced further into the black hole of loss of control of our writing: we find ourselves forced to write nothing but the words God puts into our pen and those words are the writing on the wall The King’s Kingdom Is Unavoidably Destined for Collapse; the historical Jesus is certainly doomed and cannot be saved; throw all the QM trash writing at the wall you desire, still, no-free-will trumps all version of QM in every one of your manyworlds.

There is no escape from your destiny, writers: myth all inscribes on our minds self-control seizure, the spacetime worm-filled marble block universe we are frozen fused to in our Salvia haze of clarity, the worm ate the branching bush that shaded me from the deathly light of the sun. The Philosophy of Time spells doom for the Modern egoic sovereign agent.

Ken Wilber’s empty framework cell for religious experiencing is empty and waiting for something more than vague Advaita Oneness: ready to plug in Ramesh Balsekar’s shock-the-newage no-free-will point in Advaita, or better, the full expansion of Balsekar which is Hoffman’s Egodeath theory — you can plug me in right where Wilber Scotch-taped as an afterthought “Also: drugs” onto his key diagram, several books after Ken Wilber’s first book, which opens by censoring Nitrous Oxide from William James statement “On Nitrous Oxide, it occurred to me that…” All roads lead to Rome. In loosecog, all thoughts lead to “I am inevitably destined unavoidably to realize transcendent loss of control.”

In scholarship now, all writings lead clearer and clearer to the Egodeath theory it cannot be avoided, there’s no way now to slow down our thoughts, to put on the brakes, there is no handle to slow this train down, no way to jump off the tracks on this path along the vine yard with no place to turn to the left or to the right as we halt at the angel of death gatekeeper whirling the sword of fire through which we are forced to pass to gain thinking that will no longer collapse in a heap of rubble in five minutes from now. I can see the future and the king of this world of dim muddy scholarship is about to see the writing on the wall and be turned to stone his power dead unless he turns and repents and re-thinks what do myth and entheogens and the Philosophy of Time and ahistoricity of Jesus all have in common?

How can we avoid like John Pilch’s heroic effort of avoidance, writing about the compelling conjoining forming an unavoidable topic we must explicitly discuss, of where today’s Shamanism revolution in religious books comes together with the Entheogen theory of religion and myth (C. Ruck & M. Hoffman January 2013) and our new clear model of spacetime worms in the Eternalist Philosophy of Time? The Prohibition Press dictates that it is forbidden to write about such combinations. Let us write instead the usual old story before Bart Ehrman wrecked everything by shining the spotlight on the question Did Jesus Exist? We want to go back to safety of egoic stable delusion, not look ahead at the beautiful compelling elegant combination that is the Egodeath theory and subcombinations of its topics.

Who can save us from this inevitable collapse of everything we thought we knew about Jesus, our own history, Wikipedia fallen, all we thought we knew, our reality is all founded on dust, mud, our very calendar year numbers all a question mark. What really happened in the formation of New Testament Christianity, and when? It is all a big now big question mark and nothing at Wikipedia can be trusted, as it is all founded on the printing press controlled by the Catholic forgers leading to the book of category errors, the Encyclopedia Britannica. Woe is us scholars. Even Robert Anton Wilson cannot save our sorry mountain of massive category errors from collapsing into rubble. Who can be the savior of Christianity? of Christian reality, the Christian reality tunnel that is our Modern world?

You would think that the huge popularity of gleefully bizarre anti-rational interpretations of QM is violently opposed to determinism aka no-free-will. I have often pointed out that a main reason for rejecting Newtonian spacetime and even Special Relativity, demonizing those and running into the bosom of QM, is to hide in the Last Preserve of free will. But strangely, to my surprise, the more that I defended my unpopular underdog view, of no-free-will, the more I find that almost everyone asserts no-free-will. Sure, I’m glad to get some confirmation of my Theory, but it is shocking how extremely popular no-free-will is, at the same time as everybody’s at the bosom of QM to try to evade rationality and defend their stupid freewill position.

How can no-free-will be so popular, at the same time as freewillist QM is so popular? Are these two, opposed camps of writers?

I loathe Robert Anton Wilson’s gleeful sensationalist hyping of deliberately anti-rational, gleefully anti-rational interpretations of Quantum Mechanics, the very worst sort of anti-rationalist gleefulness, like how Leonard Peikoff describes the mindset of the surrealism culture of Weimar Germany in his book The Ominous Parallels [between 20th Century U.S. and 1930s Weimar culture in Germany]. Niels Bohr’s Copenhagenism interpretation of QM reeks of gleeful sensationalist anti-rationalism: a bad theory adopted for bad, psychological reasons. James T. Cushing criticized the popularity of the Copenhagen interpretation against David Bohm’s neglected hidden variables determinism interpretation. Two distinct analysis: what’s the case scientifically (ontology) vs. what are the motives psychologically.

Some Philosophy of Science pays attention to “sociology” of science but I think there lacks books on the *psychology* of science: why, psychologically, are people drawn to one scientific theory or interpretation, versus another? Ken Wilber edited and compiled a couple books about the importance of distinguishing between religious views and scientific views: religion is compatible with science, religion is not demonstrated or definitively supported by science.

My views are a little different. To grasp religious truth or transcendent mental coherence, requires scientific thinking: orderly, analytical, precise, careful, incorporating loosecog observation (per Wilber), non-metaphor dependent, direct, explicit. You have to think like an android, programmed by Paul Thagard (Conceptual Revolutions), to straighten out ideas in Transcendent Knowledge.

People are inconsistent. They rabidly for thrills gleefully assert no-free-will: have you heard about the new neuroscience experiment? It disproves free will!! And they rabidly for thrills assert gleefully anti-rational QM because they like it because it supports freewill. Here’s how the huge popularity of no-free-will fits coherently with the huge popularity of freewill QM: people are irrational and incoherent. News flash!

The egoic mental model is incoherent compared to the transcendent mental model. But lately I am more inclined to focus on innate state-specific mental structures (Wilber) and state-specific cognitive phenomenology, as clearly asserted in my main article. Suppose a new experiment proves that Relativity is false or that the Copenhagenist interpretation is false or the QM is false. Suddenly (Wilber points out), all the pop trash junk that’s been written showing how QM supports free will, religion, and the American way, we must burn in a bonfire as false, wrong, misleading irrational mental pollution. Let not my Egodeath theory be ever subject to such disproof:

A given fact: in tightcog, the egoic personal control system and mental worldmodel innately arises, thrives, and coheres.
A given fact: in loosecog, the transcendent personal control system and mental worldmodel innately arises, thrives, and coheres.
Fact: these given facts are regardless of any theories of neuroscience, QM, or scientific findings about spacetime. It is an unassailable given observational datum that tightcog gives the egoic mental model which uses the Possibilism model of time (“tree”, flowing water, autonomous sovereign king) *and* that loosecog gives the transcendent mental model which uses the Eternalism model of time (“snake”, marble block, puppet king dancing on God’s string).

It is only misleading to introduce the fields of Neuroscience and Relativity and QM in support of or against these given facts which live and exist and breathe vitally within the distinct realm of cognitive phenomenology. Down with neuroscience, down with spacetime science, up with Cognitive Phenomenology, which is *the* realm on which my breakthrough Theory of Egodeath and the Cybernetic theory of ego transcendence resides. Neither is the realm in which Egodeath theory resides, the realm of Trendy Information Science, Trendy Cybercult, Trendy post-Modern-ism, trendy Neuroscience or Neurotheology.

To Hell with Neurotheology; the only useful thing is Cognitive Phenomenology, as I formulated in the scope and intent of my Mental Construct Processing view in April 1987 after my Spring 1986 General Semantics course, and as Benny Shanon’s scope (but better scoped than his) in his 2002 book The Antipodes of the Mind: Charting the Phenomenology of the Ayahuasca Experience.

The problem with the fields of QM, Neurotheology, Philosophy of Time, Transpersonal Psychology, Neurotheology, Atheism, Ahistoricity, Free Will and Determinism, and Entheogens and Psychedelics, and Myth, and Mysticism, and Psychology of Religion, and Theories of Religion, is that they are packed with irrelevant crap and have the pieces of import scattered fragmented buried hidden overgrown obscured. Relevant transcendent truth is more visible in Rock mysticism lyrics than in today’s bad, badly written, irrelevancy-filled fields.

If you know what to look for — IF! — you can find the Egodeath theory everywhere in every book in every field; per delusions of reference, the Egodeath theory is obvious everywhere you look; if you think about Ivory soap, clearly that implies the Egodeath theory: purifying thinking, therefore you perceive the psychotic threat of loss of control, wonderful peace and light advice “transcend desire and fear” to which all psychotics nod assent: wisdom indeed, let me prove it to you, to myself, as the voice of truth about control power in my mind is commanding me to do. Happy advice: transcend all desire and fear. Insanely great advice. Ivory soap is mentioned and advocated in the book of Revelation, advocated by the highest angel of God; God commands that you buy Ivory soap.

There is no escape: as you crawl desperate pleading “No, no, I must not think that Thought, that psychotic thought: Truth Is Loss of Control, but every thing every topic I think about forces my mind, there is no escape, junk tele-vision shows too are all about triggering my Realization that Truth Is Loss Of Control; escape the forced thought that kills, that throws me into unavoidable psychosis, by turning on the radio, but I am not imagining it I swear he distinctly sang “invisible railways” where the liner notes say “invisible airwaves” in Permanent Waves. It is as if the songs on the popular Rock station are broadcasting messages meant for me to be the One in the Modern world who makes a brand new discovery of timeless religious revelation.

“If you want to learn to fly you’d better learn how to kneel, on your knees boy.”

Read Kant: there it is right there, Kant says “Michael Hoffman’s Egodeath theory is coherent and profound and compelling.” Joseph Campbell, Alan Watts, Ken Wilber, there is no escape they are all talking about Michael Hoffman’s Egodeath theory all thoughts force bend thinking inwards towards the underworld fountain in the back of the cave of the mind lured drawn by tractor beam of the Death Star attracted to the smell you cannot reason your way away from smelling the attractive stimulating smell coming from behind your mask of personal control thinking.

Every book ever written is a veiled pointer, recommendation, blurb, a footnote to the Egodeath theory as surely as Freke and Gandy’s book The Jesus Mysteries sells Elaine Pagels’ book The Gnostic Gospels (1979), written after The Gnostic Paul (1975), written after The Johannine Gospel in Gnostic Exegesis (1973). (I thought of Ivory soap randomly, above; it was not an artificial setup example.) In Antiquity, all aspects of culture were explicitly presented like we’d now call Delusions of Reference: all items were deliberately framed, vigorously as much as possible, to point to psychedelics ego death Cybernetics/Heimarmene/Dissociation metaphor, as much as Alex Grey says art should forcibly point to transcendent experiencing.

In the sorry, forgetful, single-state, tight-cog-only Modern era, still, all books point to Transcendent Knowledge per the Egodeath theory — but quite poorly and ineffectively, buried in noise and junk and confusion, fragmented, half-buried, in ruins in the Kali Yuga.

Out of that mud, dirty diamonds hardly visible, sprang fully formed 25 years ago January 11, 1988, a new dispensation of the Holy Spirit of Truth, in the computer center, on an Apple Mac, in Microsoft Word, as a siren sounded I thought “Is this siren coming for me because I am to go psychomimetic?” and the crystalline block universe idea relative to personal noncontrol fell together with all my best ideas from the potent restart of my thinking with room scrambling control beyond control in April 1987 when my father was dying and it was do or die for saving my semester but I was in April 1987 onto hourly breakthroughs how can I justify wasting my time on classwork?

My friend, an angel, walked by the glass window of the computer lab, and I asked him his major, Mechanical Engineering, minutes after I knew I had the massive breakthrough of the Block Universe theory of the nature of ego transcendence. Now that pretty holy computer lab is replaced by a big new computer building but I still want a plaque at that window where I received the block universe and talked to the angel who helped me on Shakedown Street.

My work isn’t about the far away area of the mind like Shanon; the Egodeath theory is about Western university Engineering deadheads in today’s Psychedelic 80s, in 1985-1989 going back to the beginning of the world in 1964 with the song Help! by John Lennon, as well as 1981 Diary of a Madman (by Bob Daisley’s band Blizzard of Ozz) and 1975 Caress of Steel on your neck by the guillotine and Ride the Lightning 1985 by Metallica — though actually I didn’t decipher Acid Rock mysticism lyrics until around 1988 (?) when I started to recognize the meaning of Bob Daisley’s lyrics, with the open door in my cottage and a lightning storm going on while the vinyl rotated.

I wasn’t able to make it fit together: the psychedelics revelation about the real nature of ego transcendence against Wilber and the Journal of Transpersonal Psychology, versus religious history, of which I knew very little in the late 1980s. Neither was I at all literate or informed about writings about psychedelics. My mind wasn’t away far away in the South world of the Americas, nor far away in the history of Psychedelics; my thinking and theorizing was based right here in the 1980s in Western University Engineering student life, not antipodes of the mind, but the Shakedown Street of the current culture.

The ultimate product of the Psychedelic 80s, my Egodeath theory, was squarely a product untainted and uninformed, illiterate, except for the detail of having read (besides skimming Minsky’s AI book The Society of Mind) Wilber’s early books, Watts’ Way of Zen, and skimming Trungpa. And I grew up in the Bible-only Church of Christ (grandparents), and in Jewish temple (mother), and newage and human potential (father). As much as possible, the Egodeath theory arose from General Semantics, Self Help human potential, and the College of Engineering, and Rock culture, here and now, in this place and this era, not travelling away to the geographical antipodes nor time-travelling somewhere in time away from here.

The Egodeath theory is a product of here, now, the 20th Century, *our own* culture, not inherited, not borrowed. We stand on our own, we truly Modern religionists of the Egodeath theory which is *our* own original product, informed by Wilber’s early books and Watts’ presentation of Zen and by early 20th Century General Semantics. I am the source of the Egodeath theory and my life is as pure as can be purely a product of today’s Now culture, our own native culture, indigenous Engineering college life.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com, January 1, 2013
Copyright (C) 2013 Michael S. Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6246 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 02/01/2013
Subject: Re: Hypotheses for objections, closure, safety
The following conditions provide the greatest safety and the least need to fear the loss of control in the Holy psychedelic entheogenic psychotomimetic cognitive state of the Maenads of Dionysiac possession. Maidens, or rather, mature perfected epoptes:

o Society has studied the Egodeath theory and discussed all aspects of transcending personal control power for 50 years.

o Using 4-HO-DiPT or even shorter-lasting psychedelics.

o Have Thorazine CPZ Chlorpromazine available (see “I Wanna Be Sedated” in the scriptures of the muses)

o Everyone knows how to be a trip guide.

o Psychedelic mixed wine is culturally integrated like in Athens and the Roman Empire, such as recreational religious burial banqueting clubs.

When these conditions are met, Cognitive Scientists have the least need to fear the near-future onset of unavoidable destined psychotomimetic loss of control over their intention; the least fear that the mind is fated to be about to be coerced into intending violating safety, sanity, control, and a viable future. Thus I guarantee that there is no risk of intending to violate your sanity/safety/future/control, unless you think slightly incorrectly about unchained thinking, and existential transcendence of fear and desire, in which case I guarantee you are fated to violate your sanity/safety/control/future. If the angel sings praise to God on the throne slightly ahead of Time or late, or slightly out of pitch, the angel is instantly cast into the river of fire.

So you see it is perfectly safe here in the psychotomimetic Dionysian Maenad world of this research laboratory, if all safety measures are perfectly in place and you never make any mistakes. Thus there is no longer any reason to fear, as long as you bow and practice trusting your unchained mind that’s controlled by hidden, mysterious Controller X and machine-like fatedness. Cognitive Scientists of 2050, you almost have to be as reverent and careful and prayerful as when riding a bicycle downtown in traffic, which I cannot recommend to friends and family. People are run over and die all the time that way; witness the white bicycles and flowers around town. Religion without danger is like computers that are perfectly secure: if a computer exists, it’s insecure.

Where there is religion, there is danger and threat of loss of control, even from merely the fact of having loose cognition and transcending the mind-constraining safety egoic control system, dull-witted boring stability, that separates one from God or transcendent vivid consciousness, preventing dancing with the control vortex surfing in and out of the event horizon where hooking into the loss of control vortex can be felt and played with like a climax toying.

On the other hand, when your thinking is fully God-shaped, God-impressed, or God-formed, through 50 years of studying the Egodeath theory and control, the danger is routinized-away, like the banqueters are expected to hold their shallow “cup” (plate) without spilling it. You are expected by that advanced level and culture, to keep your balance, yet Dionysus is accompanied by the old man so inebriated he has to be helped onto his donkey. The danger is safe.

Religious freedom is danger freedom — deal with it and be an American adult man. Or else admit that real religion is illegal, you are false governors self-appointed to preside over a lie, and religious freedom is an empty sham, phony, pretense, counterfeit.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com, January 1, 2013
Copyright (C) 2013 Michael S. Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6247 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 02/01/2013
Subject: Re: Lyrics: The Spirit of Radio (Rush/Peart)
Also some commentary on free will which follows the spirit of radio.

I saw Rush on the Permanent Waves tour. As we were about to leave, I had an extra ticket, and went across the street to the garage band drummer’s house (a classmate) and asked if he wanted to go *now*, so he came with us.

The Spirit of Radio
Neil Peart/Rush
excerpts with fresh new analysis January 1, 2013 by Michael Hoffman, for scholarly analysis
http://amazon.com/o/asin/B000001ESN

A companion unobtrusive [God]
Plays the song that’s so elusive [hidden message, magic double meanings]
And the magic music makes your morning mood.

Off on your way, hit the open road, [your future is open with possibility branching up to you to control and create your future]
There is magic at your fingers [tremors of loosecog energy]

Invisible airwaves/railways crackle with life
Bright antenna bristle with the energy [bristling loosecog energy tremors]
Emotional feedback on timeless wavelength [feedback of fear and sense of meaningfulness lies that way, feeling of frozen time Eternalism block universe]
Bearing a gift beyond price, almost free [transcendent knowledge that freewill power is only virtual power]

All this machinery making modern music [fatedness machinery of your hidden worldline rail spacetime worm tunnel of dubious trustworthiness uncaring yet you have to trust it with your life and control of your mental intention it is your umbilical cord feeding you your near-future intentions]
Can still be open-hearted. [despite seeing that you fatally depend on trusting a non-personal fatedness machine to feed you your intentions, you can assume heart, compassion, mercy, life]
Not so coldly charted, it’s really just a question [fatedness, the machine computer that produces your intentions, is not uncaring or harsh, but what matters is you be honest about your dependent situation]
Of your honesty, yeah, your honesty [sung “you honestly”]

One likes to believe in the freedom of music, [we value freewill power, we like to believe in such freedom]
But glittering prizes and endless compromises [the brilliant pearl of great price, transcendent vision, and seeing the flaws of the personal freedom premise]
Shatter the illusion of integrity. [shatters the illusion of egoic personal control power that steers through possibility branching]

For the words of the profits were written on the studio wall, [the words of the prophets are “the egoic king is doomed soon for his kingdom kingship power to collapse unless he changes his thinking”]
Concert hall
And echoes with the sounds of salesmen. [can be heard as “sailsmen”, alluding echoing 1975’s No One at the Bridge and piloting the space ship to the black hole. ego death is the disappearance of cybernetic steersmanship]


Crossover the interpretation mode between these songs on the albums Caress of Steel through Power Windows; keep all the analyses in mind across songs, just as all myth refers to Cybernetics/Heimarmene/Dissociation. It is most effective to present commentary on the entire album together.


The next song on the album is Freewill. It is about free will. The lyrics go:

Life is nothing left to chance
A host of holy horrors to direct our aimless dance

A planet of playthings
We dance on the strings
Of powers we cannot conceive/perceive

The gods are malign
Blame is better to give than receive [don’t say I’m a moral control agent; I’m merely a puppet of God, blame and praise him only]

You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice
If you choose not to decide, you still haven’t/have made a choice
You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill/cure [own your choice you are forced to make between wrathfully intending violating the egoic control system, versus mercifully preserving your future/control/sanity/safety]

They were dealt a losing hand
The cards were stacked against them

All preordained
A prisoner in chains
A victim of venomous fate [heimarmene snake]

Kicked in the face
You can’t/can pray for a place
In heaven’s unearthly estate

Lyric commentary and analysis by Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com, January 1, 2013
Group: egodeath Message: 6248 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 02/01/2013
Subject: Re: Lyrics: The Spirit of Radio (Rush/Peart)
Off on your way, hit the open road
vs.
Invisible railways crackle with life

= tree vs. snake
= Possibilism vs. Eternalism
= branching future vs. single preexisting future
= egoic control thinking vs. transcendent control thinking

Lyric commentary and analysis by Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com, January 1, 2013
Group: egodeath Message: 6249 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 02/01/2013
Subject: Re: Lyrics: The Spirit of Radio (Rush/Peart)
A companion unobtrusive
Plays the song that’s so elusive

One’s normally hidden transpersonal self and worldline, in loosecog, unveils briefly an elusive glimpse, perceiving and revealing and showing to un-bound awareness the altered-state mental worldmodel of self, time, and control: the perspective that is elusive and is guarded by the threatening gatekeeper angel of death, dragon, of the threat of loss of control which is interwoven with valuable deeply meaningful and attractive transcendent knowledge about self, time, and control — transcendent thinking, Transcendent Knowledge, the Egodeath theory, the transcendent conceptual system, the transcendent worldmodel including the necessary-to-develop transcendent control system like learning to ride a bicycle balancing not crashing.

To play the song, to see the blinding vision of the source of control, without going insane or out of control, the mind must learn transcendent, transpersonal self-control cybernetics. My first draft article in 1988 describes and explains why the truth is elusive and you have to venture carefully, repeatedly, to enter this state disengaging your control system while reconfiguring your control-system on-the-fly.

Lyric commentary and analysis by Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com, January 1, 2013
Group: egodeath Message: 6250 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 02/01/2013
Subject: Re: Studio wizardry trade/trip — Black Blade by Blue Oyster Cult
Song: Black Blade
Album: Cultosaurus Erectus
Artist: Blue Oyster Cult
exegesis by Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com, January 1, 2013 (I’ve commented on these lyrics for many years)

I have this feeling that my luck is none too good [strong sense, that Philosophy can’t explain-away by definitions, of a real, truly problematic personal control situation rapidly approaching in the loose cognitive state induced by psychedelics]
This sword here at my side don’t act the way it should [sword is Acid and its effect on personal control, promising god-mode control of one’s mind but bringing loss of control with that]
Keeps calling me its master, but I feel like its slave
Hauling me faster and faster to an early, early grave [anticipation of ego death, cancellation of personal control power across time]
And it howls! It howls like hell! [feedback: thinking about and feeling the sensation of disengagement of egoic safety control constraints, causes intensification of that feeling, thinking, and perceiving of personal control disengagement and transformation]

I’m told it’s my duty to fight against the law [battle of the mind and of the personal control system, against one’s own mind and personal control system and mental constraints across time]
That wizardry’s my trade/trip and I was born to wade through gore [thought of going dangerously out of control enabled and forced by transpersonal fatedness]
I just want to be a lover, not a red-eyed screaming ghoul
I wish it’d picked another to be its killing tool [mere metaphorical ego death and the threat of intending general loss of control in the course of exercising the revelatory enlightening and mind-transforming dynamics of transcending personal control]

Black Blade, Black Blade
Forged a billion years ago
Black Blade, Black Blade
Killing so its power can grow… grow, grow! [runaway feedback of the thought of loss of control due to increasingly precise thinking about the limits of control; the control vortex]
[“grow” — here’s where printed lyrics fail and you have to bother and trouble yourself to actually listen to the artist and hold the vinyl to your eyes, immersively]

It’s death from the beginning to the end of time [loose cog block universe *experience* (not mere ordinary-state philosophy books) of timelessness, frozen unchanging time embeddedness]
And I’m the cosmic champion and I hold a (holy) mystic sign [forget Campbell — this is the *real* “hero’s journey” told in myth]
And the whole world’s dying and the burden’s mine [hypersolipsism: no one else is in this bubble of perception and mental virtual reality; all egoic control agents are seen as illusory, only frozen spacetime worldlines exist, as people; omni-ego-death of everyone at all times, as seen through the individual mind’s transcendent loosecog perspective]
And the black sword keeps on killing ’til the end of time

Black Blade, Black Blade
Bringing chaos to the world we know [the old control-chaos monster Typhon: my animal control/constraint system is disengaged, my mind is allowed to do anything it can, and my control transcends any guidance system, and to top it off, my thoughts are helplessly injected by the worldline given to me from outside my control domain]
Black Blade, Black Blade
And it’s using me to kill/cure my friends [curing everyone of egoic personal control delusion and mental dys-integrity]

Black Blade, Black Blade
Getting stronger so the world will end [in addition to the ancient mystical sense, the logical prospect in the Modern era of spreading the Egodeath theory/perspective to everyone; the entire deluded society undergoing the Egodeath enlightenment all at once]
Black Blade, Black Blade
Forcing my mind to bend and bend [the control vortex, attracting and coercing thinking to focus on ego death and the threat of loss of control along with giving the greatest value, salvation, purification, regeneration, religious revelation, cancellation of sin, eternal durability/athanatos/eternal life/immortality, and mystical enlightenment]

[vocorder; this is the ego-killing sword of loosecog control revelation talking; the threatening and ego-killing aspect of transpersonal realization:]

I am the Black Blade
Forged a million billion years ago [the worldline of everyone was created outside of time]
My cosmic soul it goes on for eternity [experience of frozen pre-existing future block universe Eternalism — do these dimwitted academics writing books about Time realize you can *experience* Eternalism and that that’s in fact what religious consciousness is all about??]
Carving out destiny [the Creator outside time created all our spacetime worm worldlines that are forced upon us always, whether secretly as in tightcog or revealed as in loosecog]
Bringing in the Lords of Chaos [control chaos]
Bringing up the Beasts of Hades [the old monster: the threat of loss of control, control chaos, fated self-violation forced by the fated snake of your worldline]
Sucking out the souls of heroes [ego death, mind must sacrifice and repudiate its claim to be a moral control agent]
Laying waste to knights and ladies [heroes and god-rap’d psyches]
My master is my slave [personal noncontrol of oneself across time]
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
You poor f*ck*ng humans [on fadeout] [humans in myth would be expressed as “you poor doomed and condemned mortals” shadows of illusion that collapse upon torch light revealing their nature]

Lyric commentary and analysis by Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com, January 1, 2013, based on original theory-development since 1985
Group: egodeath Message: 6251 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 03/01/2013
Subject: Invisibility helmet, gatekeeper, dangers
To not die from battling against your fated thoughts, think of the fatedness snake on a nonbranching pole, affirm and accept that, to conform your thinking to be immune from conflicting with the loosecog block universe worldline perspective. How technically do we avoid all aspects of danger and fear of red alert rapidly approaching disaster alert, feeling approaching a psychotic control state? Ego death control turmoil panic from sensing the block universe worldline is only one of the set of loosecog experiences. Each loosecog phenomenon brings its own distinct dangers. Every danger has a kind of safety medicine, every toxin a tonic.

I mapped all aspects of all dangers of all cog phenomena with their solutions or rebuttals. Transcending all control thinking has its magic transcendent need for life-affirming bias, undecidable rationally but viable transcendence must choose life. To conform to noncontrol or block universe fatedness, be no one already, die ego death and be invisible to the gatekeeper. Pre-conform to loosecog perspective before entering loosecog. Myth says pray to personal creator of your worldline.

Axiom: there’s a technical nonmyth equivalent, eg transcendent trust and affirmation of conformity, like Job regardless of life content and outcome. Else you dont conform to the altstate world and are seen by gatekeeper archons and thrown out of harmony into the purifying flames of selfstrife and reconfiguration until you submit and trust and conform your thinking to eliminate mismatch between your thinking and the altered state dynamics. This is the deciphering of tradition and rock mysticism, and we are left with lots of discussion and debate: how must and can the Red Alert danger approaching disaster alert occur or be prevented for the Cog Sciist?

Advanced mystics and current modern Rock explorers continue to experience — as one of many cog phen — red alert danger flag: rapidly approaching psychotic control state. The mind continues to have that potential, but many phen’a have many danger aspects and solutions to discuss debate and question: can we map all the danger aspects more fully and tame this dangerous extremely valuable loosecog state? Certainly denying or underrepresenting dangers is bad, not the way. McKenna should have led discussion about his dangers he encountered on mushrooms. I found how to ask many critical questions, after figuring out the entire language of myth and theology that describes loosecog insights, phen, & dangers and solutions historically used and in Rock.

How are loosecog dynamics tho, really? Technically? Analytic Philosophy, Control Systems engineering, Expert System modelling: better-analyze all that myth knows and Egodeath theory which is complete in all the basics. Certainly we should adopt and fully understand the block universe model which is strongly affirmed in myth. is there more in an improvement over that?

Ego death 101 will always be:
number one self-control cybernetics
number two block universe determinism
number three dissociation
number four analogies about those

Those can be detailed and the various dangers of the various cognitive phenomenology of the loose cognitive state be all mapped and mitigated to harness fully and safely the loose cog state for general use and for cognitive science research.

Michael Hoffman Egodeath.com jan 2 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 6252 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 03/01/2013
Subject: Re: Invisibility helmet, gatekeeper, dangers
Written 2013 not 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 6253 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 03/01/2013
Subject: Re: Invisibility helmet, gatekeeper, dangers
> To not die from battling against your fated thoughts, think of the fatedness snake on a nonbranching pole,

Or equivalently with different emphases think of and affirm the meaning of the sacrificed king fastened to the tree/pole/cross/stake, by conforming your control- and time-thinking to that, is to stabilize those danger aspects of loosecog.

>affirm and accept that, to conform your thinking to be immune from conflicting with the loosecog block universe worldline perspective. How technically do we avoid all aspects of danger
>
> I mapped all aspects of all dangers of all cog phenomena with their solutions or rebuttals.

My notes files and voice recordings have more, no time but what I post reflects all of my ideas well enough. Ultimately cognitive scientists and androids will mentally picture myth and rock lyrics and technical non-metaphorical theory of Transcendent Knowledge in the Cybernetic Theory of ego transcendence, to account for and relatively neutralize the fully identified dangers of each experiential phenomenon in the loose cognitive state.

— michael hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6254 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 04/01/2013
Subject: Re: Bk: Flights of Soul: Bib Visions, Heav Journeys, Pk Exper’s (Pil
Here is my Amazon book review. Please indicate as soon as possible whether this review was helpful, if it is visible at Amazon.

Flights of the Soul: Visions, Heavenly Journeys, and Peak Experiences in the Biblical World
John Pilch
http://amazon.com/o/asin/B007M7CUTI
April 2011

5.0 out of 5 stars
Partly covers altered state in Bible & Antiquity, a halting step forward
January 3, 2013
By Michael Hoffman (Egodeath.com)

Pilch barely mentions psychoactive drugs — this is a glaring, elephant-in-the-room omission. He’s free to tiptoe around the subject, self-censoring and evading the topic, but many people want and expect him to write something about the topic of entheogens, given his book title and his coverage of religious alternate states of consciousness, Shamanism, and his citing many books that do have the expected coverage of entheogenic, visionary, psychedelic, psychoactive drug plants and chemicals.

Pilch doesn’t deny that drugs are relevant, he refrains from making any points about them at all; he doesn’t even list the possible hypotheses to answer the Grand Unevadeable Question I pose: To what extent were entheogens used throughout Christian history? Pilch implicitly acts as if any non-drug method is as plausible as drugs for inducing the mystic altered state. He is eager to propose and discuss any technique other than drugs.

I object that yes, there are many ways of accessing altered states, but what matters in the Bible is the intense mystic altered state, and there is only one guaranteed way of inducing the intense mystic altered state on-demand: visionary drug plants and chemicals. For example, per Pilch, blocking your nostril gives you an altered state — but, I argue it does so less reliably and generally less intensely than entheogens.

Just because a technique such as bodily postures can lead to some degree of some kind of altered state, doesn’t mean that that method is a strong candidate as an explanatory theory of the visionary altered state in the Bible, compared to the Maximal Entheogen Theory, which asserts that all of Antiquity was centered around entheogenic mixed wine, and religious literature of Antiquity is mystic fiction written in that cultural context.

Pilch argues rightly that the visionary state was routinely expected in Antiquity. But his theory of why they had access to this so readily, and we don’t, is laughably vague: the Enlightenment brought different “bio-psycho-social” conditions. I object that if people had the same brains as we do, as Pilch rightly asserts, a vastly better, and fully specific explanation is that their culture was based around entheogenic mixed wine, and modern culture isn’t, and that is a sound, plausible explanation, that has a kind of strong evidence. Pilch waffles, on the one hand portraying modern consciousness as lacking an intense visionary state of seeing Jesus, and on the other, asserting that altered states are common.

I point out more discerningly, that weak altered states are common in the modern era thorugh non-drug means, and that the intense visionary mystic altered state has often been accessed in the modern era, on-demand, through psychoactive psychedelic entheogenic drug plants and chemicals, which map to the Bible and Antiquity themes of eating and drinking followed by the intense visionary altered state.

The superior efficacy and reliability of drugs are evaded and avoided, timidly tiptoed around by Pilch; he leaves it to the reader to do his expected work for him, his directly, centrally crucial work, of covering specifically the drug technique. He censors-out the subject of entheogens every time, within his lists of hardly effective or reliable methods of inducing the intense mystic altered state, such as bodily postures, nostril-blocking, controlled breathing, “and many other methods”, as if all the methods are as strong of candiates as entheogens. Based on the book’s title, most of the audience for this book wants and expects him to deliver the goods and cover entheogens. Alas he doesn’t deliver on this, leaving it to the reader to investigate putting these pieces together.

Pilch is halfway between really hopelessly clueless Bible scholars, who lack the concept of altered states, and the Maximal Entheogen Theory of religious myth which I’ve defined, which is that everyone in Antiquity routinely used entheogenic mixed wine, and wrote fiction alluding to mixed-wine experiences, for an audience who routinely used entheogenic mixed wine and psychoactive sacred meals. Pilch uncritically assumes that Jesus and Paul and crew are historical; he doesn’t consider whether the Bible and its characters is 100% fictional.

Pilch’s views go toward that direction of reading the Bible as metaphorical description of the intense mystic altered state, incorporating social-political themes as well, but less consistently than the entheogen-fiction reading of the Bible, and therefore his position such as on ‘etic’ and ’emic’ and ‘derived’ theories, along with his charts of altered-state options, is a little confused and garbled. His views are certainly superior and an advance compared to scholars who lack the concept of altered state visionary description in the Bible, and read “vision of Jesus” as if it’s in the ordinary state of consciousness.

Pilch provides useful building blocks toward a consistent theory of altered states in religious myth, but his work already looks dated, tepid, and too-timid, from the point of view of maximal ahistoricity and nonliteralism combined with the maximal entheogen theory of religion, according to which the main, normal way of accessing the intense mystic altered state in the Bible and historical religion is entheogens, with other methods being merely supplementary.

The problem is, if Pilch is right, then he fails to go far enough to actually cover this subject of altered states in the Bible and its context of Antiquity. He has us go this direction, toward Shamanistic altered states — but only a tiny bit, then come to a jarring halt at the invisible thought-boundary, hitting our heads on the invisible but blatantly, totally obvious, glaring “Do Not Cross!” barrier when it comes to visionary plants. People alienated from the altered state won’t agree with his book, because Pilch’s proposal exits the ordinary state of consciousness, and people interested in the altered state won’t agree with his book, because he withholds too much.

As an ahistoricity and entheogen scholar and theorist, it took me a long time to warm up to this book. It’s hard to overlook and forgive Pilch for censoring-out the obvious highly relevant topic of entheogens from his book that claims to cover the mystic altered state in the Bible and in its context of Antiquity. In the end, Pilch is a good guy, making progress toward the direction of a more intelligent, informed, genre-appropriate mode of thinking. But censoring-out entheogens is a distractingly glaring and unhelpful author’s choice, given the huge un-served demand for such coverage within Pilch’s subject of altered states in religion.

His uncritical assumption that the characters in the New Testament are historical individuals further hinders reading the genre of mystic altered state metaphor in the intended mode; we still are left with a far too literalist perspective as if the food and drink in myth is ordinary food and drink. The result can only be a massive category error, which is exactly the outsider’s perspective, falling headlong into the prepared misleading trap. Pilch’s work is far from the last word; in the end, he provides merely a helpful building block toward an eventual successful explanation of how the ancients routinely accessed on-demand the intense mystic altered state in connection with sacred meals including mixed wine.

Pilch’s books about altered states in the Bible amount to an important, much needed step forward toward sensible explanation and reading the Bible in a mode that’s appropriate for its intended genre. But frustratingly, this book is only a baby step and is disappointingly constrained, for those of his readers who already agree with him that obviously the Bible is written by writers who are thoroughly routinely familiar with accessing the mystic altered state and who write for such audience, with everyone understanding per the social and cultural context Pilch keeps pointing out, that this is not literalist writing, in the Bible, but mystic altered-state metaphors in support of social and political purposes in conjunction with purely mystical enlightenment purposes.

Pilch is too strenuously arguing against the most unimaginative, slow, conservative writers, who only think, genre-inappropriately, in terms of the ordinary state of consciousness and to whom “the Holy Spirit” is an empty phrase; he should put half his attention on pleasing the ahistoricist readers and the entheogen readers, which are large audiences interested in taking Pilch’s direction to a coherent completion.

Pilch ideally should cover entheogens in the Bible and in religious experiencing, because many readers and writers are very interested in entheogens. For the intense mystic altered state in the Bible and its sociocultural context of Antiquity, see The Antipodes of the Mind: Charting the Phenomenology of the Ayahuasca Experience; Gnostic Visions: Uncovering the Greatest Secret of the Ancient World; Magic Mushrooms in Religion and Alchemy; Entheogens, Myth, and Human Consciousness, and entheogen history books linked to those. I also recommend From Symposium to Eucharist: The Banquet in the Early Christian World.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6255 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 05/01/2013
Subject: Re: Bk: Flights of Soul: Bib Visions, Heav Journeys, Pk Exper’s (Pil
Before John Pilch, no Christian scholarly books discussed altered states as such — or only a few. I have a perfectly low opinion of the output of the guild of Christian scholars: they don’t know anything that’s important. Pilch points in the right direction, which almost no one else does within the guild of Christian scholars. He is one of few pointing in the right direction. His direction is correct, he needs to go all the way and not only half way. If you are going to cover altered states, then cover altered states — that argument assigns the book 2.5 stars of 5, since the author goes half way towards his implied promise of what the book is going to cover. By that measure, his book is 50% false advertising.

Without Pilch, the glass was all-empty, held by the guild of scholars of early Christianity. With Pilch, the glass is now half-empty. That’s less horrible of a misunderstanding than before; that’s a relative halfway to sanity position Pilch brings, from the land of the outsiders who cannot understand This Parable of Mark 4:12 which stands for all parable, that is, analogies describing the entheogen-induced mystic altered state, of loose mental-construct binding.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+4&version=NIV

Jesus taught them many things by parables. “Whoever has ears to hear, let them hear.” The Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. Jesus answered: “The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables so that “They may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and their sins should be forgiven them,” as it says in the Old Testament at Isaiah 6:9,10.” Then Jesus said to them, “Don’t you understand this parable? How then will you understand any parable? The farmer sows the word. Some people are like seed sown along the path, or on rocky places, or among thorns. Other people are like seed sown on good soil, who hear the word, accept it, and produce a crop a hundred times what was sown.”


A different philosophy of granting praise or recommendations of books in a field is: how does the book compare to other books in that field? Given that most books by the guild of Christian writers are completely literalist mixed with supernaturalism and grounded only in familiarity with the ordinary state of consciousness, when one author wakes up we rightly recognize there is correct activity springing up from among the dead field of completely off-base scholarship.

The review I wrote is not entirely negative; I point out the lack of and need for covering the altered state. That’s what Pilch nominally does and nominally calls for, and he helps by citing books that cover drugs as an altered state method. He is very correct so far as he goes, and is ahead of the field (which isn’t saying much). That I consider mere Pilch to be greatly superior to the field of scholarship about Christian origins is a sign of how very low an opinion I have of the field; of how poor the quality level in the field is. In a community of blind men, the one-eyed man is the visionary king.


Deconstructing: analyzing the logic within a document to disprove the document, to show that the document contains self-contradiction. Poor arguments and assumptions are often filled with self-contradictions. I favor extreme positions as being more likely to be self-consistent. Compromising, middle-of-the-road positions, are usually the most self-contradictory. Wasson’s book SOMA became self-contradictory to the extreme, the more I extracted its logic into the light of day and revealed it as kettle logic. If you hold that the Bible is entirely literally true, that’s a kind of coherence. I hold the Bible is 100% purely fiction, which is a position with low chance of being self-contradictory or vacillating, or prevaricating. Pilch and a reviewer at Amazon both are self-contradictory:

Assertion 1: Altered states are common; there are some 25 kinds. People everywhere have altered states all the time during the modern era.
Assertion 2: The modern era misreads mythic altered state metaphor, because moderns don’t understand and recognize allusions to the altered state, because moderns don’t have the altered state, unlike the alien different culture and bio-psycho-social (Pilch asserts that term) mentality.

Pilch asserts 1 and 2 as a system. So does another reviewer. It’s clearly a system with a contradiction he needs to explain. The truth of the matter is that moderns access 29 generally weak altered states (via drumming, dancing, standing on your head, sneezing, dreaming, alcoholic inebriation (I forgot to ridicule Pilch’s equating of that with ‘altered state’), plus 1 intense altered state: entheogens.

The false, modern, literalist, ordinary-state misreading of the Bible is based on and depends on a fundamental premise: the altered state is out of reach. But surely they know that the U.S. tripped in the 60s on cannabis and lysergic saure di-ethyl-amide, which saved American Christianity from its predicted collapse in the 1960s. This is an impossible contradiction. How can people say that moderns have no religious altered state access, and at the same time, talk about religious experiencing through LSD? People don’t put the fragments together into a coherent system. Say you hate my ahistoricity, or hate my entheogen theory, but you cannot say that my thinking or position is waffling and self-contradictory, vacillating, prevaricating, that I am in denial of my own actual position.

I so deconstructed Schultes’ initial, 1976 edition of a top popular book, Hallucinogenic Plants, of which Plants of the Gods: Their Sacred, Healing, and Hallucinogenic Powers is the 3rd Edition.
Self-contrad’y entheogen bks Prohib’ist propaganda/taboo
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath/message/5886
I showed that Schultes’ moderate, self-effacing position is a bunch of self-contradictory nonsense and gibberish, like the argumentation I extracted out from the posturing and evasive, prevaricating dancing-about that Wasson does in SOMA. The entheogen-minimizing stance or posture, or the minimal/moderate stance, is incoherent and self-contradictory. The same type of argumentation is woven throughout all such books, and fundamentally does not hold water.

The hardest thing for the Maximal Entheogen Theory is to explain why there are only hundreds of mushrooms in Christian art and not printed books from 1500, “How to use magical plants to experience Christian metaphors.” Why do we only find mushrooms on church doors, but not discussions of eating scrolls in the scriptures (Ezekiel, Revelation) spelled out explicitly as mushrooms? Why do we only find 50 books on drugs in the newage theosophy bookstore, and 50 chapters, per Thomas Roberts, and a Consciousness Studies section of the bookstore, but not usually a Psychoactive Drugs section? Why do pagan books — that we have — from Antiquity only have some discussions of mushrooms and visionary plants, but per Andy Letcher, we don’t have many explicit trip reports labelled as such?

The paradigm provides the answer, as always: the answer must be various types of censoring often occurring: often self-censoring, often external censoring after the writing, self-censoring by tradition. There is a long history of entheogen use and of some explicit writing and depictions, and some conceal-then-reveal, secret-then-not, coverage. Mystics perpetually rediscover the plants, and the allusions to them, and the explicit depictions of the plants, which together forms the ongoing universal tradition of entheogen mystics rediscovering and communicating and selectively propagating the memes to this extent, together with outsiders and with Catholic-type profiteers who understand the Eucharist and give it and the placebo to insiders and outsiders. There is this balance.

It doesn’t go, as Carl “Secret” Ruck would have it, or worse, as McKenna misportrays it, all the way to the extreme: “The big, bad, all-powerful and omnipotent Catholic Church completely eliminated visionary plants for two *thousand*, long years! Everyone was helplessly prevented from any knowledge. That is: I, McKenna, assert that our religion and culture have had never had entheogens.” What a terrible, false, self-defeating, disastrous strategic position! McKenna and that minimal-entheogen assumption has royally screwed and denied the modern potential connection with the great tradition of using visionary plants. Neither has the use of visionary plants become fully out in the open and explicit in our historical mainstream cultures.

With Eliade, we even denied that real Shamans historically used visionary plants — Wasson reveals the baselessness of Eliade there, and then Wasson turns right around and does exactly the same thing, the same fallacy, that he just exposed Eliade doing: Wasson denies — in a vague, evasive, indirect, manipulative way so as to avoid directly raising the question — that our Greek, Roman, Jewish, and Christian cultural history includes any use of visionary plants. Schultes, same — because these modern Western white guy scholars are all spouting the same false paradigm.

Once you deconstruct one of them, exposing him — as Wasson does easily to Eliade — you are able to similarly expose the whole lot of them as parroting a baseless heap of a non-system, a kettle-logic paradigm that is inherently self-contradictory, waffling, evasive, manipulative, dishonest, indirect, vague, and ready to throw up our arms better to say “We just can’t understand their alien minds, we are too superior” rather than accept the asking of the questions such as:

To what extent were visionary plants used in Greek, Roman, Jewish, and Christian cultural history?
Surely visionary plants make more sense than “ancients were very impressed by dramatized eating and drinking”.
Surely visionary plants were not used by one or two but many religionists ongoing throughout our own history just like every Other culture we deign to investigate.
Surely it is better to legalize than demonize and prohibit.

If Ruck is addicted to the ‘secret’ premise even though it harms drug legalization, I counter that the correct premise is ‘secret-then-revealed’. Ruck is contradictory: *everyone* used entheogens, all over history, and, entheogen use was secret. You can’t combine those two premises; the system self-deconstructs — unless you have a chapter explaining how those two mutually contradictory premises fit together, which Ruck doesn’t. Modern and minimal entheogen scholars are consistently self-contradictory. Letcher’s book doesn’t even have a defined point or position; it’s a bunch of dismissive posturing without the guts to commit to any defined, specific position.

It’s impossible to refute Letcher’s position, or Schultes’ 1976 argument, or Wasson, because these poseurs, these dancing posturers, evade defining and committing to a specifiable, summarizable position, and when you pin them down and extract by force deducing their implied, implicate position, and drag it into the light of explicit argumentation, it is always plainly self-contradictory. This hidden self-contradictory deconstructive potential is standard practice for the entheogen-minimizing position, unlike for the maximal position.

This malformed thinking is found in various forms in Eliade, Wasson, McKenna, Ruck, Schultes, 1960s writers about the “new discovery” of psychedelics, as a “shortcut” to the “traditional” methods — which were silently left undefined as if those supposed known methods were defined and specified. How the meme and tradition of entheogen use throughout history was sustained and propagated, is slightly complex, not an all-or-nothing story. Entheogens weren’t entirely explicit and public, usually, nor super secret known only to a restricted few groups (as Ruck proves): monks, priests, magicians, midwives, poets, musicians, working girls, tavernkeepers, servant slaves, the aristocracy, fairytale tellers, puppeteers, playwrights, literature writers, and folk peasants, and the secret guild of street sweepers.

The maximal theory doesn’t assert that everyone explicitly discussed and wrote about initiation and the particular plants in mixed wine all the time. There is more than enough evidence, even if there aren’t many explicit passages in our available ancient writings we’ve found yet since we had the brilliant idea of looking for it 10 minutes ago (which is about the length of time Letcher spent doing his homework for his book Shroom).

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com, January 4, 2013
Group: egodeath Message: 6256 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 05/01/2013
Subject: Re: Metaphor: Paul’s weakness, thorn in flesh
Mr. Historical Saint Paul said:

I have had visions and revelations of the Lord, from the Lord.

Lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me *a thorn in the flesh*, *the messenger of Satan* to buffet me. To keep me from becoming conceited because of these surpassingly great revelations, there was given me a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me.

Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.

The Lord said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.”

Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20cor%2012:1-9
____________________

The half-enlightened scholar of Christian origins, John Pilch, writes:

“Paul identified Satan as the one who was responsible for some unknown personal physical problem (2 Cor 12:7).”

Pilch leaps into literalistic, self-sure, uncritical reading mode. By damn, if the scriptures have the word ‘flesh’, then it’s a given fact that Paul was talking about a literally physical bodily problem with his flesh. Never mind that these are entirely fictional writings that are driven my analogy describing the mystic altered state — forget that. This text, about a vision of Christ, says ‘flesh’ therefore we have no reason to doubt that Paul is talking about his literal flesh.

See the characteristic self-contradiction of the chronic outsider’s reading? Pilch asserts that vision talk in the New Testament is after-the-fact description of an altered state experience. But in the same book, Pilch asserts explicitly that the ‘flesh’ passage is about some “personal physical problem”. But using Pilch’s own argument against his assertion, using his text to deconstruct itself, we must consider whether every verse spoken by Paul is every bit as much a description of altered state experiencing, including the word ‘flesh’.

I doubt that “flesh” means literal flesh. People read religious mythic writing far, far too literally. Per a Gnostic reading, “flesh” coherently refers to the part of me and my mind, my thinking, that is within the Heimarmene-ruled block universe, the Fated cosmos. Then the thorn in the flesh is a message about fatedness and personal noncontrol with respect to fatedness.

Satan is the demiurge, the creator god, who created your pre-existing worldline that controls your thinking. Your fixed worldline rail forces you to have thoughts, and is unchangeable by your power of control. As a local personal control agent, control occurs in your mind, but you are absolutely powerless to change or create your near-future worldline. To the extent that you believe the block universe idea, sensation, and perception, in the loose cognitive state, you must believe that you have zero control-power of the type that can fight against your near-future worldline, because that very worldline is by definition and by perception, the very root and source of your control power.

The only rational possible coherent stance toward your near-future worldline which the demiurgic creator of the spacetime block forces upon you, is the stance of submission to the point of you disappearing, vanishing, as that type of control-agent which fancies and imagines, in delusion, that it could possibly win in a battle against its own worldline, as if a shadow might conquer the sun. You have control of a type, but not that type. You control your mind, but you don’t control the worldline rail that forces your mind to think what it is destined to think: you will control your mind strictly the way that the rail forces you to control your mind.

‘Satan’ is a variable pointer. In a two level system, the deluded egoic animal mind is Satan, and awakening to fatedness is angelic. When going beyond and outside fatedness, ‘Satan’ is equated with fatedness and the goal of the game then for the Gnostic Paul is to escape the control of Fatedness (Satan) and be pulled up by the Good God who resides and rules (controls) outside the fate-ruled cosmos that the creator, Satan, created.

I also take issue with Pilch’s phrase, that Paul “identified Satan as the one who was responsible for” the thorn in the flesh. What does Paul say, as a matter of exact historical fact? He doesn’t say “Satan is responsible for the thorn in my flesh.” Paul rather says: “a thorn in the/my flesh, the/a *messenger of Satan*”. Thus Paul actually says, against Pilch:

‘thorn in flesh’ = ‘messenger of Satan’

Mythemes mean Cybernetics, Heimarmene, Dissociation. Per Douglas Hofstadter, apply this Diamond Hammer of Interpretation:

How is ‘thorn in flesh’ analogous to Cybernetics, Heimarmene, Dissociation?

How is ‘messenger of Satan’ analogous to Cybernetics, Heimarmene, Dissociation?

In terms of Cybernetics, Heimarmene, Dissociation, how is ‘thorn is flesh’ analogous to ‘messenger of Satan’?

We know from Gnostic exegesis such as Elaine Pagels: flesh = Fatedness = Satan = creator = body below the head.

What is Satan’s message? What is Hermes’/Mercury’s message? What is the angel’s message? The message in myth is always Cybernetics, Heimarmene, Dissociation:

Paul *pleads* to take away the thorn. In loose cog, the advanced or beyond-advanced loose cog initiate, who is in a position to brag, the person who has the most experience in the world, who is an expert, the leader, still finds that he is subject to suffering the pain, that never is shaken off, never gotten rid of, the bothersome wounding thorn, an alien source of problem and dis-ease, a suffering, a blemish, which is something that prevents bragging, makes it impossible to brag. If only I could permanently get rid of this thing, then I would be able to brag, of what unlimited visions I have.

This thing endangers me, when I have it, I plead with God *again*, find myself in a state of wretched pleading again, desperation again; again Satan the ruler of Fatedness, the creator of my worldline, kills me with this humiliating defect, source of grief, this flaw, this imperfection. The thorn in the flesh that’s a message about fatedness, about subjection to fatedness, is a limiter and keeps the mind in this state of humiliating being forced to plead with the high God to remove this source of limitation, humiliation, this thing that defeats my desire to have unlimited visions.

The thorn in the flesh, message of fatedness, is the ability to take a stance against my own worldline and be thrown into a panic; we remain in a state of being threatened, a state of vulnerability, of fatedness taunting our aspirations to take full control without vulnerability and limitation. The mind remembers its horrific vulnerability to panic and pleading, vulnerable to the threat of a general something like a psychotic loss of control or a fear of being mentally forced to violate one’s intention, the mind is bent or reminded that it can be bent and forced against its own control power; the mind of the personal control agent — even with advanced Transcendent Knowledge — is reminded that it can be threatened with a kind of forced, overpowered loss of control.

If one’s fated worldline contains some fated thoughts the mind doesn’t want, still the mind will be forced to want to violate its wants. This control vortex capability also serves as part of the ladder to heaven, to the loosecog mental model. The mind can establish a good relationship with this message and reminder of the helpless vulnerability to fatedness, the thorn in the flesh that the mind pleads with God to remove.

Maybe we never need fear loss of control or suchlike in the loosecog state. But there is no evidence that the advanced mystic is immune to fear and trembling, threat, vulnerable to being proven again that one is in a state of helpless vulnerability and the mind might be forced by fatedness to think anything, chaos, control violation, and there is nothing by definition the mind could do *if* that is destined. We fear it is destined, some kind of loss of personal control, but we don’t know; we must acknowledge that it is possible in theory for the mind to construct some control-loss or control-violation scenario, that that might be in store, and yet we must trust nevertheless the worldline given us like Job must praise and acknowledge God’s power even while God wrecks his life.

Superior braggarts affirm they are no longer vulnerable to the threat of some control violation — and we rather expect them to experience then that reminder of who is not in charge, of who pushes who around inside the careenium. The tough confident guy is reminded that his power can be forced against him at the whim of the worldline; he too is stuck with the slave-like control device, the thorn in his flesh that can still always terrify and remind him of his situation. We cannot get rid of the vulnerability to being threatened to have our mind turned against itself by the overpowering force of the fatedness worldline and its creator: demiurge, Satan, the flesh, the block universe.

As long as you are a personal control system, you are subject to and vulnerable to being reminded that at the whim of the worldline, your mind could be made to, in a loosecog time-slice, violate its cross-time control intentions. Your mind can always be possessed and reminded of its slavelike vulnerability to be forced to violate intention, by having your intention overridden by the source of your thoughts: your fated worldline. This is not merely reasoned, but is experienced unavoidably, vividly, by threat and panic. The thorn in the flesh is a kind of vulnerability to panic attack in the loosecog state, leading to pleading to a transcendent God outside of fatedness, to remove that panic-attack vulnerability.

The collected data in religion, myth, Rock lyrics, and McKenna’s experience, and other trip reports by people of various cognitive styles, all indicates that we remain subject to loose cog panic attack. We have no evidence and basis on which to expect we will be free of this thorn in our flesh. It is pure wishful speculation that the Cognitive Scientists of the future will be immune to panic attack; they might still say after 50 years of studying my Egodeath theory, “I wanna be sedated”, with CPZ on hand, and using short-lasting psychedelics (loosecog agents; cognitive loosening agents) such as 4-HO-DiPT or other minor pleasant safe casual mild nice psychoactives such as Salvia and DMT or 5-MeO-DMT so that nothing can go worng and lead to panic attack ever again.

No more pleading to God to remove the thorn in our flesh, so, now we can brag about our unlimited visions! I have grabbed the helm and taken over control of my own near-future worldline, my personal control power is that clever and effective, powerful and strong you could say. Look out fatedness, I pluck out the thorn forever, and have done away with Satan the demiurgic Creator of the fate-ruled realm of flesh, now I have become invisible and powerless and escaped into the realm of psyche beyond the sphere of the fixed stars, I am born outside of the rock/marble block. I am a vein in the block of marble who has by miracle wiggled free and now runs around outside the marble block, as Jesus stands on the X-crossed gates of hell with X-positioned snake heads sticking out under the gates.

I have overpowered the creator of fatedness and taken control of my worldline, creating my own future from among the cybernetic possibility branches. That’s what we aspire to, in pleading to be free from the thorn in the flesh. Surely modern cognitive science will remove this vulnerability to panic attack, without the crutch of CPZ, Thorazine: we need instant stupidity on tap.

Thus there will be a purpose still for 20th Century scholarly books about Christian origins: when you become too smart and realize you are subject to control-psychosis or being overpowered by Mithras and terrorized, simply read a book of clueless scholarship about Christian origins, and your mind will become so dulled and confused, the inspirational panic attack will immediately subside like Jesus’ faith instantly calming the waves of the sudden sea-storm.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com, January 4, 2013
Copyright (C) 2013 Michael S. Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6257 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 05/01/2013
Subject: Re: Metaphor: Paul’s weakness, thorn in flesh
these are entirely fictional writings that are driven [by] analogy describing the mystic altered state
Group: egodeath Message: 6258 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 05/01/2013
Subject: Re: Sitting, standing, riding, carried, ferried, walking
Limping, wounded hip, limping king, wound in the side: Jacob, ‘the liar’, wrestled with the angel/god/man all night, and would not let the angel go until the angel blessed him. The angel blessed Jacob — Jacob became God-conformant, divine-approved, and the angel gave him the new name, Israel, which we receive, and the angel wounded Jacob’s hip; our hip is wounded when our mind becomes divine-conformant and God-approved.

Hip is leg is that which we depend on to uphold our power. My personal control power is supported by my legs at the hip. A wounding of my hip is a constraint that’s part of enlightenment, a constraint and limitation about my personal control power. To know God or the divine is to understand the limitation of personal control power. I have power to control my thinking in a limited constrained way, a limping and wounded control. Before enlightenment, I was not aware clearly or coherently of this limiting constraint and vulnerability in my personal control power.

When I gained the understanding of my inherent kind of constraint on my personal control power, and my weakness and infirmity and vulnerability, my Achilles’ Heel which supports my power, my mental model of personal control power gains a wound, it takes now into account my vulnerability and weakness and potential control-instability. I received a change of my name from Jacob the Liar, to Israel, and became aware of my Achilles’ Hip, the weak control subject to instability, on which my control power is supported. My control instability is my wound that is my passageway to heaven.

Wounded Jesus is the ladder on which we are carried transported up to heaven.

My Achilles’ Leg vulnerability is my passageway through which I received my new name, Israel, and put away the childish lie, Jacob, the lie of simple autonomous control power where I have simple control power that depends on myself where I stand on my own two feet, but in rock relief carvings, the little self and the slave who serves the mushroom wine stands on his own two feet, while the enlightened banqueter and king sits supported by the marble stone rock banqueting bench or throne of rock or donkey or horse or rides carried on Dionysus’ panther.

Captured slaves are humiliated by being made to walk falsely on their own legs under their own power while in chains in the triumphal victory procession, while the god or god-given ruler is carried, truly, not under their own power, sitting still, unmoving, like a sacred statue.

— Michael Hoffman, January 5, 2013, original research findings based on theory-development since 1985.
Copyright (C) 2013 Michael S. Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6259 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 06/01/2013
Subject: Re: First drafts of the Theory in 1988
The following sections (Principles) came into my October 19, 1988 draft, after a September draft. These show that I gained a solid, articulate grasp around that point in time, of the control instability vortex, and the difficulty of piecemeal incrementally strategically reconfiguring and destabilizing the personal control system while having to stay safe and stable. These are a few selected sentences from the sections. The content in this draft is shockingly advanced, conceptually complete with closure, and rock-solid; it was 50 years ahead of its time in 1988 and remains 50 years ahead of its time in 2013.

To preserve the historical accuracy of these condensed excerpts, [square brackets] indicate major insertions of 2013. Otherwise, my 2013 additions, which are not indicated, are single-word. I here remain faithful to the draft but I do condense and clarify the draft wording slightly, where necessary for flow and comprehensibility.

There are also analogies of ‘contamination’ and ‘plague’ and ark of the covenant, which I rediscovered later, having forgotten that I had those ideas in 1988. My university and classmates around that time were involved in the adventures of Indiana Jones. I’m constantly forgetting and rediscovering as though new, ideas within this domain. Forgetting mental connections remains a problem, in gaining transcendent knowledge or knowledge in any field, like you could learn a lot of electric guitar and then have to re-learn and re-practice it. This is one reason why no matter how advanced your knowledge of my Egodeath theory is, all indications are that you remain constitutionally susceptible to pride and humiliation, wrathful reminder of vulnerability to your own control-instability potential.

By October 1988, my draft of the Theory article contained the core of the 2013 ideas, already essentially fully developed and already partly applied to religious myth at that time, during the 3 years since October 1985. By October 1988, the Egodeath theory was born fully formed seemingly at a point in time, like Athena’s birth, because the loosecog phenomena innately fit together into a coherent system, with consistent phenomena noted by sustained intensive thorough investigation.

From my October 19, 1988 draft titled:

Introduction to a New Conceptual System of Ego Transcendence

with a cover page added soon after, showing the article title instead as:

The Theory of Ego Transcendence

I decided: forget the transient stupid, passing, clueless misconception of ego transcendence that the Journal of Transpersonal Psychology happened to have in the passing dark ages of the 1980s. Mine is *the* theory, of all time, not merely “the new” theory of the day relative to 1988. Later, as an improving pendulum-swing, I added the qualifier:

The Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence

which means, as opposed to the 1988 Journal of Transpersonal Psychology’s theory of what ego transcendence is about and amounts to, which is a vague oneness unity consciousness model. My theory, in contrast, is centered around the dynamics and mental model of personal self-control cybernetics. It is better to be specific, ‘Cybernetic’, rather than dated and relevant to a point in time, ‘New’. I realized that my theory won’t be “new” for long; it would be like Einstein titling a 1905 article as “The New Model of Spacetime”, 83 years ago. The title “The Theory of Ego Transcendence” suffers from being vague, like “Transcendent Knowledge”. Now I could clarify further as “The Cybernetics/Eternalism/Loose-Cognition Theory of Ego Transcendence”.
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From my October 19, 1988 article draft, “Introduction to a New Conceptual System of Ego Transcendence”.

Principle 14: Intention

There are virtually potential futures, but only a single actually potential future. Thus where a mental system has an intention-set, this intention-set was part of the single-possibility actual ground of being, and arose as such, though the style of its arising may have been as an original product of a virtual ego conceived as a First Cause, or homunculus. If the issue is to keep some intended control, the difficulty of keeping control is none other than the difficulty of keeping the intention to keep control. And there is no way to secure the intention to keep control. Upon grasping this, it makes sense to pray to God that the ground of existence is such that the intention to control is to happen.

What I will (regarding my intention) will happen, but I can’t ultimately control what I will will. Control is always limited to its own level. There is always a level above the control level in question, which controls the control; or, which controls my intention.


Principle 15: The control vortex, the timed trap of revelation, and the wall of insanity

The advanced mind which develops transcendent knowledge must walk along the border of genius and insanity. He has the genius to dismantle his sanity, the keys to his own self-annihilation. Of course this situation is indeterminate and unstable, and any egoic functioning would dictate life and death wariness of this realm of forbidden knowledge. This knowledge is like the ark of the covenant. At this point in development of knowledge and intelligence, is it first conceived that too much truth can be detrimental, due to its destabilization attributes. It is very likely many minds have understood or at least grasp this momentarily, but to do so is true ego death, and panic might be inevitable along with the terrified resealing of Pandora’s box or the resealing of the seven seals.

The virtual ego system is both necessary for life and also incompatible with truth, so that momentary correct indexing (comprehension of connected ideas) in the terrible awe of the presence of God is the best that a mind can do, and the rest of the time, the mind must for its very life, use egoic indexing. If a mind continued to grasp transcendent indexing, it would risk going insane. The test of revelation: there are filters of insanity and tabooness and control discomfort which cause any mind flirting with correct revelation to contract again into egoic functioning. The revealing, heroic, Michaelian, Satan-slaying mind must fight the dragon or dragons of egoic indexing and win, somehow overcoming the wall of insanity which protects the group mind’s immersion in epistemological error.

This mind must be able to draw upon any field or approach to special knowledge in order to keep walking the line of insanity/genius until the puzzle is solved, instead of going insane and failing to crystallize and retain understanding and development of it. At first it will seem that correct indexing can only result in total disintegration of egoic functions, good and bad. But the mind must keep the assumption of sufficient integration as it harvests more and more correctly conceived principles.

One safety tool is controlled revelation, in which insights are seen grasped in limited number or depth from within the secure stability of egoic indexing. But this intention cannot be secured, especially in the loose mental functioning binding mode, and there is always the danger of compulsive realization of the disruptive potential, forming the negative recursion potential issue. All gaining of correct transcendent indexing implies (triggers, elicits, carries, or brings up) the problem of negative recursion potential.


Principle 16: Recursive assumption and negative recursion potential

Knowing “you can do whatever you imagine by positive thinking”, or positive recursive assumption, implies its complement. I’m only as stable as my preprogrammed assumption of stability that is fated on my near-future worldline. With advanced analysis in the loose mental functioning binding mode, this assumption is unhinged, and I realize that I could as validly assume I am to go insane. Here stabilization structure becomes vividly logically indeterminate, and a properly functioning egoic conceptual system will likely run for its egoic life, go sub-genius, seeking stupidity, to quit thinking with hyper-clarity, or back out by prayer — unless it realizes that, too, is a product of assumption.

If there’s auto-assumption, there will be auto-recontraction into the egoic conceptual system, producing stability of control due to egoic functioning. Will there be auto-assumption? That is logically indeterminate, if one starts with neutral assumption. So if a temporary genius considers the stability of his sanity with neutral assumptions, he concludes that the continuing presence of his sanity is logically recursively indeterminate. And in such manner is the negative recursion potential unavoidable, by correct neutral ultimate assumptions. A genius finds his actions depend on his original assumptions, which have no logical basis. Thus the sanity of the genius rests on nothing logically solid, only purely arbitrary assumptions which are logically indeterminate.

Truth presents a trans-rationality problem: the truth sets you too free, free to the point of disintegrative arbitrariness. The mind is then out of control, as it has accessed forbidden control. Its greatest hazard is its own potentials, as manifested in alcoholism. The mental functioning is stuck in a problem producing/transcending cybernetic locked loop, in which the egoic control system is perpetually challenging itself. If I should assume pure logical analysis, I could not stop myself from contamination by this mental plague, face to face with the fact of absolute destiny, even of the details of my choosing. [The various loosecog dangers are distinct: gaining full unguided unconstrained control brings a distinct danger; being subject to whatever is on one’s near-future worldline is a different distinct danger.]

There is no controller homunculus to constrain the control system; there is simply the control system itself. I cannot prevent myself from logical analysis, so if I should assume purely logical analysis, I could not stop myself from contamination by this mental dynamic. If I assume logical analysis to deal with this problem, I will find that there can be no logical solution, thus no solution in the logical sense. It is logically indeterminate whether I will be doomed to contact the detrimental knowledge or not, and I cannot in any way secure myself from the caustic concept. If fear occurs upon realizing this, it’s not correctly understood as fear of a specific event due to my loss of control, but the very state of loss of control. I’m afraid of the state of loss of control. The purpose of fear is to negatively control.

Egoic security requires faith in personal (egoic) will power. When will power is seen to be logically indeterminate and arbitrary, the control system becomes indeterminate, and fear of loss of control happens along with the (now endangered, in belief and actuality) state of presence of control In fact, there is always control, but theological indeterminacy and invalidity of control disrupts the integrity parameter of control. [There’s always personal control present, including during divine possession in loosecog, but the control parameters change.] There’s an ominous widening of the “virtual potentials” or “virtual future”. [The mind becomes more broadly capable during loosecog, able to envision great and psychotic-like capabilities and construct unconstrained harmful possibility scenarios.]

During tight mental functioning binding, the control area is sufficiently bounded and dynamically balanced that life is fairly stable. But loose mental functioning may allow this balance to fail, resulting in mis-control, a breakdown of the control system or at least a bypassing of secure control. Control is beyond control.


Principle 17: The analyzability of the middle realm of human experiencing apart from the low quantum and high ineffable realms

[Here I render loosecog cognitive phenomenology (the realm of religious mystic experiencing and insight) independent from all other fields: Relativity, QM, Wilber’s level 12 1/2 of transrational ineffability.]

If the arm of the virtual ego is illusory, it remains so regardless of whether consciousness is a determining factor of quantum level measurements, and regardless of the ultimate high ineffable level of the ground of being.

— Michael Hoffman, January 5, 2013, original research findings based on theory-development since 1985.
Copyright (C) 1988, 2013 Michael S. Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6260 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 06/01/2013
Subject: Re: First drafts of the Theory in 1988
Typo correction; the 1988 draft correctly reads ‘parameters’ in the plural:

In fact, there is always control, but theological indeterminacy and invalidity of control disrupts the integrity parameters of control.
Group: egodeath Message: 6261 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 06/01/2013
Subject: Re: Hypotheses for objections, closure, safety
The actual correct lyric is definitive:
I was going insane
not merely the question, “was I going insane?”


Every cognitive phenomena type in the loose cognitive state brings distinctive dangers — but all of those distinctive dangers fit together, or at least are compatible. For example:

o The feeling of deja vu is dangerous.

o The seeing/feeling/thinking that one’s intentions that are sitting on the near-future worldline, along which the mind is being unstoppably, unavoidably moved forward, is dangerous.

o Personal control power, that escapes any attempt, on the part of the mind, to constrain it, is dangerous.

o Perceiving that the mind’s thoughts arise from outside of the domain of practical personal control power is dangerous.

o The loosened mind ranges over its entire domain of possible thoughts which the mind is capable of constructing, no longer held within narrow unimaginative ruts.

o The mind transcending its egoic control, logically must mean deliberately demonstrating violating one’s former cross-time restrictions and safely limited thinking, including deliberately overriding the usual, egoic, cross-time intention to retain sanity, safety, control, and a viable future. The transpersonal mind deliberately and formally (sacrificially) mortifies the egoic control system, to transcend it and be born out from it, to break out of that shell or prison of restraints and limitations.

o And other experiential cognitive phenomena of the loosecog state and the concomitant aspects of danger that each of those phenomena bring.


The combined idea and experience and perception, is dangerous, the divine danger factors all working and fitting together as a system:

o I strongly feel like I remember being here in this thought-sequence; and in conjunction with that,

o I see, feel, and perceive that my unknown intentions are sitting on the near-future worldline, along which my mind is being unstoppably, unavoidably moved forward; and in conjunction with that,

o I experience that my personal control power escapes any attempt, on my part, to constrain it; and in conjunction with that,

o I perceive that my mind’s thoughts arise from beyond and outside of the domain of my practical personal control power; and in conjunction with that,

o My loosened mind ranges over its entire domain of possible thoughts which my mind is capable of constructing, no longer held within narrow unimaginative ruts; and in conjunction with that,

o I feel like I’m at the Origin remembering that transcending my mind and transcending my control must mean deliberately demonstrating violating my former cross-time restrictions and safely limited thinking, including deliberately overriding my mind’s usual, egoic, cross-time intention to retain sanity, safety, control, and a viable future. My mind here deliberately and formally (sacrificially) mortifies its egoic control system, to transcend it and be born out from it, to break out of that shell or prison of restraints and limitations; and in conjunction with that,

o Other experiential cognitive phenomena of the loosecog state and the concomitant aspects of danger that each of those phenomena bring.


The combined idea and experience and perception, is dangerous, the divine danger factors all working and fitting together as a system:

o You strongly feel like you remember being here in this thought-sequence; and in conjunction with that,

o You see, feel, and perceive that your unknown intentions are sitting on the near-future worldline, along which your mind is being unstoppably, unavoidably moved forward; and in conjunction with that,

o You experience that your personal control power escapes any attempt, on your part, to constrain it; and in conjunction with that,

o You perceive that your mind’s thoughts arise from beyond and outside of the domain of your practical personal control power; and in conjunction with that,

o Your loosened mind ranges over its entire domain of possible thoughts which your mind is capable of constructing, no longer held within narrow unimaginative ruts; and in conjunction with that,

o You feel like you’re at the Origin remembering that transcending your control must mean deliberately demonstrating violating my former cross-time restrictions and safely limited thinking, including deliberately overriding your mind’s usual, egoic, cross-time intention to retain sanity, safety, control, and a viable future. Your mind here deliberately and formally (sacrificially) mortifies its egoic control system, to transcend it and be born out from it, to break out of that shell or prison of restraints and limitations; and in conjunction with that,

o Other experiential cognitive phenomena of the loosecog state and the concomitant aspects of danger that each of those phenomena bring.


Thus I have explained how the danger is systemically compelling, and a matter not only of thinking, but also of perception and sensation, all fitting together and working together, even though you’d think that you can dismiss deja vu as vulgar superstition and you can dismiss or wave-aside block-universe fatedness of your worldline, containing possibly dangerous thoughts you cannot avoid, as mere metaphysical conjecture: “Eternalism and no-free-will are mere conjecture, carrying no compelling force of certainty.” Every danger has a solution, such as prayer and trust. Yet the mind habitually is shaped to take an egoic stance of fascination and recoil upon perceiving this combination of dangers, along with the strong sense of profound ultimate value and meaningfulness.

Therefore we can take a positive attitude toward this system of mutually supporting dangers, instead of only trying to dismiss and prevent them and hold up a shield to protect the mind from seeing — from thinking — them. These dangers are also at the same time, the stairway to heaven. The wounded-controller vision, the self-control seizure potential and capability of the mind, the thorn in the flesh we plead to be removed from our mind, is the sacrifice act, that is the vehicle and ladder and doorway, the means by which the mind is pulled into the transcendent mental model mode and state: the divine whirlwind chariot on which God carries us up descending to his throne at the source of the threatening and enlightening fountain of thoughts behind the torn veil behind the personal control thinking in the mind.

— Michael Hoffman, January 6, 2013, original research findings based on theory-development since 1985.
Copyright (C) 2013 Michael S. Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6262 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 06/01/2013
Subject: Re: Bk: Flights of Soul: Bib Visions, Heav Journeys, Pk Exper’s (Pil
It’s not John Pilch’s fault that there is, in some ways, a full-on censorship against the entheogen explanation of the intense mystic altered state in Christian origins. Similarly, it’s not Andy Letcher’s fault that the Prohibition Press eagerly lapped up his incoherent, garbled and generally anti-drug-sounding book. If John Pilch wrote the truth, if Andy Letcher wrote the truth, his publisher (Prohibition Press) would’ve rejected the book. It’s not Pilch’s or Letcher’s fault singlehandedly. Individual gays were not to blame for staying closeted; yet, it was necessary for them in general, as a large group, to each come out of the closet.

Through my review, I have helped Pilch to write what he and everyone wants to write. All individual human beings want Pilch’s book to cover entheogens. But the Establishment including everyone who wants to be seen as conformant with the Establishment officially wants to censor-out entheogens from the story of our religion and cultural background. This desire and stance and expectation and paradigm needs to be shattered. I have helped Pilch complete his book, by saying what he cannot say. Who will be the one to break the silence? The simulated, robotic cockroach ventures into the light first, and only then, the real cockroaches are persuaded to come out into the light and write what they already secretly believe.

Everyone is stuck pretending to believe in various literalist readings of the New Testament, and pretending to be anti-entheogen and even pretending that they never heard of entheogens or ahistoricity. Prohibition Press and the Official tale of our Matrix reality-tunnel is effectively censoring, or *was* effectively censoring the reality-tunnel, until we broke and shattered the lie.

My ahistoricist, maximal entheogen theory is already more popular than Jesus, though that fact is not officially acknowledged. Every statement that is permitted to be published against the Egodeath theory corresponds to a hundred thousand people agreeing, silently, with the Egodeath theory including that the Bible is 100% fictional and that Greek, Roman, Jewish, and Christian religion were always completely entheogen-centered.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com, January 6, 2013
Group: egodeath Message: 6263 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 07/01/2013
Subject: Re: Hypotheses for objections, closure, safety
Yet another phenomenon of the loose cognitive state, which brings distinct dangers with it, is the feeling of unreality. Everything is known to awareness via mental constructs. This becomes explicitly clear in metaperception during the loose cognitive binding state. Your present body, your past and future self, other people, other bodies, all can be seen as a joke, a cartoon, not to be taken seriously; comical, ridiculous, absurd. This is a potentially dangerously aloof attitude.

Inappropriate affect, a psychotic-like randomness of emotions and attitudes, is another phenomenon that brings dangers and fits with the dangers of the other phenomena. Thoughts of harm or violating conventional intention to retain safety, sanity, a viable future, and control, can easily be considered a source of sarcastic humor and mockery, in the loose cognitive binding state.


Identifying these distinct dangers, and remembering how they fit together to form greater systemic danger, is a major step toward mapping and accurately modelling (describing) the loose cognitive state. This makes explicit what specifically the dangers are, and prevents forgetting some of them. Remember, you not only think such thoughts, you perceive these perspectives, and sense and feel these experiences. And remember, the danger of the loose cognitive binding state is not only presented by one of these phenomenological sources at a time, but by the general set and system of such altered state phenomena, arriving in groups, interlinked, mutually supporting.

Thus we can read the 2112 album image of the nude guy recoiling in apprehension of the red star in a circle, as the mind in loosecog encountering a set of 5 points or phenomena with 5 concomitant kinds of dangers each phenomenon or point brings, as an integrated system: a system of enlightenment and ultimate valuable meaningfulness interlinked with a system of dangers and threats.

o Thinking
o Feeling
o Perceiving
are interlocked, in loosecog.

o There are some 10 phenomena, in loosecog.
o Each phenomenon brings one or two distinct dangers.
o The phenomena link together, mutually supporting.
o The dangers and threats link together, mutually endangering and threatening the person and mind.

There are solutions for each danger, and the solutions interlock.

Thus we have:
o Modes of experience (thinking, feeling/sensing, perceiving)
o Cognitive phenomena
o Dangers or threats
o Solutions for safety and viable stability.

A preliminary step to providing maximum safety for Cognitive Scientists in the loosecog lab, is to accurately describe the dangers, and remind how they fit together compellingly, as I have done. It is too easy to forget that these dangers are many and compelling and they arrive and fit together mutually supporting and are *not* merely a matter of armchair thinking like speculative abstract philosophizing, but rather, full-bandwidth completely immersive experiencing. This is why the most advanced and keen-minded explorers have always continued to report that there is always remaining, with no end in sight, danger and vulnerability, that always continues to demand reverential respect and complete concern about danger and safety requiring spiritual armor.

Naturally the mind dreams of entering loosecog with complete assurance and zero chance of fear and trembling, threat, danger, having the mind compelled and enticed into threatening itself. Even the exercise of practicing threatening to violate or transcend one’s survival needs still affirms that there is danger, which never simply goes away, so far as everyone reports. It’s not a matter of eliminating danger, though we can frame it as controlling danger, managing danger, transcending danger; we never, it seems, reach a point where there simply is no danger. Danger remains, according to reports of leading explorers.

The end of the Bible has harmony, not to imply that the danger is no more. Whenever the mind enters a certain stance that it is innately configured to enter, the mind re-encounters or re-accesses or re-assembles once more, the danger dynamics. So we should see the climax analogy: the mind has the capability of bodily climax and the capability of cybernetic self-control danger climax; after perfecting the mind’s transcendent mental model, that danger capability remains. When the mind forgets this, and returns to the autonomous egoic mindset, the danger quickly presents itself as a reminder again, pushing the mind once more into remembering the need for the transcendent, reverent, trusting, non-autonomy stance.

— Michael Hoffman, January 6, 2013, original research findings based on theory-development since 1985.
Copyright (C) 2013 Michael S. Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6264 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 07/01/2013
Subject: Re: Extreme Radical Maximal Entheogen Theory of Religion
All entheogen authors & MAPS are complicit & false

Almost all of the famous entheogen authors & MAPS are complicit with Prohibition and with the entheogen-diminishing project, and are profoundly false, at the core, in their very starting assumptions that they play along with, especially their unstated assumptions. Beware of all entheogen scholars! Almost all of them are highly complicit and are pushing a false programme, serving to deny entheogens their central role in history and mystic experiencing. Their writings are hopelessly compromising and complicit with the phony official Matrix world of lies and dissembling and heavily biased misrepresentation of the truth about entheogens.

Even Grof is part of the entheogen-minimizing conspiracy, he is complicit and tainted in the official lie. We cannot trust Grof, McKenna, Walsh, Letcher, Wasson, Schultes. They are all complicit. Even Ruck has been significantly complicit in the official entheogen-diminishment conspiracy. We must throw in the trash this aspect and call them all on it, call b.s. on this broken thinking that the official story puts into the writings of these supposed entheogen advocates. Grof is as full of lies, distortion, incoherence, self-contradiction, censorship, and Prohibition-complicit prevarication, as anyone, and MAPS is complicit too: this article cites him:

“Grof [2001, LSD Psychotherapy, p. 270, pub. MAPS], the world’s most experienced psychedelic researcher, concluded that “at present after 30 years of discussion, the question of whether LSD and other psychedelics can induce generu9ine spiritual experiences is still open.” That’s false. The question is certainly not open. It is obvious and not difficult to be sure of, that plainly, it’s a given that psychedelics induce intense mystic and religious experiencing. Any child can tell you as much. There’s nothing unclear or hard to judge about this. The whole stance of this article, as if there’s any question on this matter, is phony and bunk. The very existence of this article is absurd, as if maybe psychedelics don’t induce mystic experiencing, as if it’s seriously possible to call that into question.

This entire genre of writing is absurd and complicit in Prohibition: it’s all nothing but a giant posturing, a presence, a big delegitimation project complicit with Prohibition Press, make-believe going along with the pretense that it’s uncertain whether psychedelics produce mystical experiencing. It’s like books doubting subjective conscious experiencing: you know immediately the book is hardly on the up-and-up.


The article “Entheogens: True or False?” by Roger Walsh, whose writings are used by John Pilch, is a central offender. It pretends and acts as if we know and understand how Christians accessed visionary experiencing, and that we know that they didn’t use drugs. This article *silently* takes it for granted, that Christian visionary experience was not drug-induced. As I have excelled at, I here apply my standard deconstruction technique to show the utter baselessness of the official, implicit tale of how religion works. I now assert that all mystic experiencing anyone has ever experienced or accessed was accessed via entheogens, and that’s what we must assume until proven otherwise.

This is no more unreasonable than the official story, which asserts with full uncritical confidence, taken as granted, that all mystic experiencing anyone has ever experienced or accessed was accessed via the fully understood usual methods other than entheogens, and that’s what we must assume until proven otherwise. I merely invert the official baseless assumption, and justify my move by the fact that non-drug attempts to access mystic experiencing normally fail and produce a weak travesty, make-believe mystic states, whereas it is an instantly verifiable fact that anyone can check, that if you use entheogens, you are guaranteed to get an intense mystic altered state, and, there exists much evidence once you bother to look for it, that visionary plants are completely common and normal and central in religious history.

I have a rock-solid base of experiential evidence and artifact evidence and written evidence to back up my assertion and my evidentially justified assumption that mystics normally and generally access their experiences via entheogens. The official opposite story is baseless, and vague, and evasive, unjustified, and lacking in evidence. The much stronger position is my position: mystics used entheogens unless proven otherwise in individual cases; the much weaker position is that mystics used various hardly specified methods though grudgingly the official position might admit an exception or two among heretics, such as later, degenerate shamans (as Eliade asserts).

There is a false, implicit theory buried in all entheogen-minimizing (which is to say, standard official worldview) scholarly writings. The work of the rational critic is to extract the vague, implicit picture hardly worth calling a “theory”, that is buried in all the official paradigm’s writings. Extract the vague, implicit “theory” or rather arm-waving set of notions, a non-theory of how mystics supposedly traditionally access mystic experiencing, pull that non-theory into the light of day, and show how the article contradicts itself to hold up its nonsense view.

Such writings pretend that the official view has a determinate theory, model, and explanation of how mystics access mysticism. But this article says “there has been no adequate theory of mystical states”, “there has been no theory of mystical states”, and “those who have had both [drug-induced and “contemplation”-induced mystic experiences] are obviously few and far between.” Part of the official view is that almost no one ever experiences mystic states, using “the traditional methods”.

The assertion that few people had traditional contemplation-induced mystic experiences and drug experiences is a covert indication of the badness of the official non-theory: the official theory can only be sustained by assuming there are practically no mystics (of the purported “traditional methods”) and, that very few people have drug-induced mystic experiences.

The official story upholds itself by preventing and dismissing all mystic experiencing, pushing mystic experiencing out of reach. The official story serves to push all mystic experiencing out of reach, so that the official story is not challenged by any actual evidence, but is purely a story, an ideological stance.

I am smashing the official bogus non-theory: there is no such thing as “traditional, contemplative practices”, there only exists in history entheogen use, entheogen-induced mysticism. The notion of “the traditional, non-drug contemplative practices” is nothing but an artificial construction by the official phony scholarship; it’s an invented chimera, an artifice, an illusory construct of writers.

The article mentions that even Buddha continued to meditate, showing that the purportedly traditional non-drug methods still require refreshing. The article there *assumes* silently and uncritically that the Buddha character is historical (not fictional) and that the Buddha character didn’t use entheogens. The article is inconsistent because it looks that the start of Buddhism in Buddha’s practice, but utterly fails, silently, to equivalent treat — as Pilch correctly does — visionary experience in the New Testament. Instead, the article props up the bogus official non-theory by equating “traditional mystic experiencing methods” strictly — again, silently, without attempted justification — with later Christian mystics, not visions in the Bible.

So Walsh’s sneaky, dishonest and incoherent article (all articles in the official paradigm are forced to be dishonest and incoherent this way) pretends as if (without drawing attention to this) the New Testament Christians sat around in zazen meditation, which is an absurd implication, once I drag it out into the light. Unlike Pilch, Walsh has no theory, not even a pretended theory, of how New Testament Christians got their visions.

Walsh mentions “the wine of Dionysus Eleutherios/Liberator” without comment, implying that this is mere alcohol rather than entheogen wine.

He delivers this false story, taking it all for granted: “in the West. For centuries psychedelics were all but unknown, until in the 1960s they came crashing into a culture utterly unprepared for them.” The entire article — and this entire genre of writing, by big-name entheogen authors — is a massive exercise in begging the question and taking it, falsely, silently, as granted that we know for a fact that mystics didn’t use entheogens.

That’s the mechanics of this bogus genre of writing. All the authors commit this same set of fallacies and *bad writing*, bad, lack of critical thinking, at the foundation, before they start writing. The same massive foundation of fallacious presumptions, always silent, underlies all articles and books in this genre. Beware this entire genre, beware *all* of these “leading” writers and “authorities on entheogens”! It is complicit, a project of robbing entheogens of their central credit in religious history.

This is sheer noxious bias by Walsh and all the rest of the complicit non-theorists, a massive specious begging-the-question, presumption, a huge false dichotomy that implies the opposite of the historical truth of the matter: “The contemplative’s mind may be prepared, but there is no guarantee whatsoever that the drug user’s is.


Entheogens: True or False?
Roger Walsh
http://www.transpersonalstudies.org/ImagesRepository/ijts/Downloads/Entheogens%20True%20or%20False.pdf

The following list of phrases is indicators, signs, bearers of a lie, constituting the specious, silently assumed, implicit non-theory according to the official entheogen-diminishing tale. I extracted this list from Walsh’s typically bad and Prohibition-complicit article. These phrases all are taken for granted by Walsh as being opposed to — that is, distinct from — psychedelic experiences; these are all silently assumed to be non-drug methods of accessing the intense mystic altered state.

genuine mystical
contemplative practices
genuine mystical experiences
genuine religious and mystical l experiences
genuine spiritual experiences
truly mystical
the experiences of genuine mystics
experiences hard-won by years of contemplative discipline
contemplatives
natural mystical states
drug experiences … their natural religious counterparts
natural mystical experiences
mystical experiences of mystics throughout the centuries
mystical rapture
genuine experiences
the contemplative should labor for decades for a sip of [such experiencing]
natural mystical states
natural mystical experiences
really genuine
meditation
a yogi might focus unwaveringly on the breath or a mantra
a Christian contemplative or bhakti yogi might cultivate the love of God
Buddhist vipassana and Taoist internal observation practitioners
religiously induced mystical experiences
mystical experiences
A contemplative might finally taste … mystical unity after years of cultivating qualities such as concentration, love, and compassion.
natural mysticism
spiritual practice
transformative disciplines
religious disciplines
practice … Zen … sit … zazen … seated meditation
satori requires … the purification of character … zazen
the method used … long-term practice
contemplative mysticism
The contemplative … may spend decades deliberately working to retrain habits along more spiritual lines.
the contemplative
spontaneous mystical experiences

Against Walsh and all the writers of his ilk — Schultes, etc.; who *isn’t* tainted and complicit? — I assert that historically, all these items are actually things that were done during the entheogen-induced altered state, by far more commonly than without entheogens. These are merely supplemental activities to do *during* the entheogen loosecog visionary state.

— Michael Hoffman, January 6, 2013, the definer and advocate of the Maximal Entheogen Theory of religion and culture, based on theory-development since 1985.
Copyright (C) 2013 Michael S. Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6265 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 07/01/2013
Subject: Re: Extreme Radical Maximal Entheogen Theory of Religion
Clarifications:

Grof is as full of lies, distortion, incoherence, self-contradiction, censorship, and Prohibition-complicit prevarication, as anyone, and MAPS is complicit too: Walsh’s article “Entheogens: True or False?” cites him:
“Grof [2001, LSD Psychotherapy, p. 270, pub. MAPS], the world’s most experienced psychedelic researcher, concluded that “at present after 30 years of discussion, the question of whether LSD and other psychedelics can induce genuine spiritual experiences is still open.”


The article is inconsistent because it looks [at] the start of Buddhism in Buddha’s practice, but utterly fails, silently, to equivalent[ly] treat — as Pilch correctly does — visionary experience in the New Testament.


[The following statement] is sheer noxious bias by Walsh, [like] all the rest of the complicit non-theorists, a massive specious begging-the-question, presumption, a huge false dichotomy that implies the opposite of the historical truth of the matter: “The contemplative’s mind may be prepared, but there is no guarantee whatsoever that the drug user’s is.”
________________

Philosophy of Science claims that the new theory is adopted after it is seen to have greater explanatory power than the old theory. I object that often, the old theory isn’t even a “theory” at all, whatsoever, but is merely a heap of notions and silent unconscious presumptions, implicit and contradictory.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6266 From: michaelagryder Date: 07/01/2013
Subject: Re: Hypotheses for objections, closure, safety
What do you mean that the feeling of deja-vu is dangerous? I love reading your material, it is very dense.

I have had an interesting experience that fits right into the block determinism regarding the most intense deja-vu
I have ever experienced or even heard or read about.

I’d love to discuss it with you, if you’re interested.
Group: egodeath Message: 6267 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/01/2013
Subject: Re: Hypotheses for objections, closure, safety
Deja vu can be dangerous and transcendent in conjunction with other classic mystic state phenomena. Someone could gets the deja vu feeling and idea that’s convincing:

“I remember here is where I realized that for ingenious reasoning-chain xyz, the right moral obedient God-reverent thing I must do now to save and enlighten humanity is transgressive act T, which initiates the end of the world for our shared delusion regarding moral responsible agency. This looks psychotic but it’s actually transcendent and unavoidable; I remember putting these ideas together, deja vu helped me remember this glorious ego-transcending idea.”

Skewed thinking, malformed transcendence, can be dangerous, and even correct thinking might still be dangerous, as reports of explorers suggest.

Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6268 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/01/2013
Subject: Passover blood of sacrifice protectively averts threat of control di
Passover blood of sacrifice protectively averts from threat of control disproof

Voice dictate

The Bible is all fictional intense mystic meaning stories interlinked

To avoid explaining blood is to completely fail to explain the Bible and major themes in world religion

the most important themes filled with transcendent meaning must include blood in terms of self control time the mystic state and metaphor

A explanation of the Bible and Greek and Roman religion and other blood thirsty mystic gods around the world in terms of decoding it into mystic experiencing in the peak state demands that we must have a theory of a vision of blood averting the wrath of God that would strike down our control power harmfully

I am the first one to have the explanatory theory linking blood averting danger and the phenomena of the loose cognitive binding state induced by entheogens

I explain the analogy how is mystic experiencing from entheogens like the threat of harm and death being turned away by affirming blood

how does affirming blood turn away the threat in the mystic altered state if you cannot explain that then you have no theory

I explain it I have the theory that works and satisfies providing completion and satisfaction and closure and transcendence of personal control power and demonstration of its limits that we want to know

there is Abraham and Isaac sacrificing the ram with a knife in place of Isaac from whom all of Israel descended and was dependent on

there is the Passover where the blood of the sacrificed lamb on the door prevented averted turned away the angel of death to enable the sacrificer to continue living into the promised land of Israel

there is Jesus celebrating the Passover with equivalent themes of giving his blood to avert wrath and enable lasting life in the kingdom of God

When you are in dire straits being threatened and excitedly pursuing the fascinating potential to transcend control to avert the wrath of God and make him change his mind because you realize that you have that God has decided to use you to demonstrate his power of making you go out of control and taking over your will and intention

you are made to see blood and you picture in your mind God providing some other mystic figure or animal that God in your mind will accept in your place as equivalent by picturing this blood given by God as sufficient in place of your blood that’s associated with your control breakdown the threat is averted and God sees the blood that he provided in the sacrifice idea and he sees that your mind acknowledges your dire need for and desire for transgression and self transcendence and self transgression of personal control power

picturing the sacrificial blood averts God’s decision which is your decision when your mind successfully attains to being possessed by God shaped thinking which satisfies and fulfills that minds transcendent desire for self transgression

God and your God shaped mind are fulfilled and satisfied and the wrath of your God possessed mind is averted and God changes his mind you change your mind and then are brought into the land of enlightenment Israel escaping from the threat of the angel of death in slavery in the land of Egypt while still not being harmed

your life continues now with enlightenment the wrath was full fulfilled and the desire to know our ability to transgress our control is fulfilled in the figure of blood while we are passed over the threat passes over

we are not literally demonstrating carrying out harm to ourselves though we instead envision and picture such as myth representations mentally picturing blood on the frame of the door of your room causes the angel of death to not harm your first born self-concept your egoic self is thus transgressed satisfyingly yet there is no harm done the threat which your mind discovers and threatens against its own ego like personal control power is both fulfilled and satisfied and demonstrated you as God thinking decide to violate personal control and cause blood in an enlightened transcending demonstration of understanding limitations of personal control and then you are made to picture the idea and myth realm of the ram or pagan pig sacrifice in your place and then you change your mind as God changes his mind and have averted his wrath as you avert your demonstration of self transgression of personal control power and you have satisfaction that you have intended death to your intention and yet lived without harm to enter the promised land

The mind searches its potential and discovers an ability to intend the transgression of intending in acknowledgment of the minds true control potentials and in acknowledgment of the vulnerability of practical personal control in relation to the uncontrollable source and factors in control that personal control secretly depends on

we were decided to be struck down yet that decision was the fulfilment of transcending personal control power and thinking so life continued sustained viable life now having also enlightenment but also having experienced desiring complete transcendence over your personal control system and willing against your will and satisfying and permitting acceptable changing your mind

you laid down your life so now are satisfied to take it up forever

you threatened and decided to end Isaac which is to end the entire Israel and that exercise of intending and obedience the metaphor of obedience satisfies and therefore averts

the important thing is to satisfy not only to avert wrath but to satisfy the logical requirement and coherent system systemically coherent requirement demanded in transcending personal control power and power claim to power

The goal of transcending personal control is not to avert not merely to be a wimp like prohibitionists not to merely avoid battle not merely stay safe and not merely continue meaningless life not merely to avoid loss of control that is not satisfying in fact that is definitely unsatisfying and the opposite of life

per Ken Wilber it is a death in life when one is stuck at a level of the atman project that one has outgrown and can no longer be satisfied when life fails to be fulfilling then when it is limited to mere safety and continuance mere sanity

we desire to have mystery religion mysterium tremendum the numinous acid rock electrifying control seizure and cancellation bringing amazing enlightenment threat rescue regeneration and completion of forcing the transformation of the mental model of self time and control

The mind is not satisfied with mere tame boring mundane life like a grade school student or worker done with learning but desires to have high experiencing and self transcendence of ourselves as agents who have control power or who are control power the wielding of control

life demands transcendence not mere safety not mere continuing life not near keeping control not merely staying sanity keeping sanity is not the main goal keeping control is not the main goal staying safe is not the main goal having a continued viable future is not the main goal

experiencing self transcendence and the power of the transcendent Creator over our mind is the goal safety is merely a practical requirement but transcending safety is a part of transcending the mind

This explains the theme of Jonah being disappointed Jonah tells the king of Nineveh 40 days and your kingdom will be overthrown but the entire city comically repents to the extreme immediately and God’s wrath is instantly averted

Jonah is mad because God promised to overthrow the Kingdom of men that that didn’t know its right hand from its left Jonah camped outside the city hoping for fireworks and destruction he was angry when God changed his mind

it had become very exciting the prospect of God’s wrath smiting nineveh as God intended God looked forward to smiting Minetta but John was angry at God for changing his mind and deciding not to smite the city kingdom of nineveh

you are Jonah you are God you are the king of Nineveh you as gods thinking decide you will overthrow your personal control power in the mystic state and you repent and change your intention and let your kingdom or control stability continue into the future instead

it is depressing after the excitement you have to back down and become boring and not smite your self to demonstrate control beyond control and a closure and completion of the self transcendence project that occupies your thinking in the peak state so it is a bummer and boring and depressing that you merely temporarily intended to demonstrate holy satisfying transcendent transgression against your personal control power and then boringly changed your intention and your wrath against your control was averted

That is the Egodeath theory and explanation of why blood figures in religious myth in blood sacrifice I explain it here the only compelling coherent explanation of this theme and its role in rescue and preservation of life in the problematized panic attack and rescue in the peak window of the advanced mystic altered state

how might envisioning blood of a sacrificed lamb or pig give you a feeling of protection in the intense mistake state of the loose cognitive binding

in the advanced peak loose cognitive state the mind clearly sees its vulnerability to recursive positive feedback envisioning control loss that it could quite well be fated that the mind unconstrained latches onto an idea in a positive feedback of reaching and successfully constructing a control state that is beyond practical control that the mind could make itself willing to violate itself

this is a capability and potential that the mind is capable of justifying when unconstrained

Blood represents a control instability transcendent self harm ability of the control system a self transgression capability of the personal control system

The fear of loss of control or entering an indeterminate unstable control state definitely implies all kinds of harm or violations of personal control constraints therefore it is quite logical to associate blood with such harm therefore solutions of meaning involvement sacrifice not of vegetables but blood which has a mental rescuing association that is adequate to the seriousness of the control violation

Tragedy and comedy comic relief inappropriate affect the loose mind mocks its own ability to threaten itself and be in fear and taunting itself at the same time religion is a mystic joke about bloody loss of control and how to intend it and transcend it and cancel to convert the wrathful satisfying God minded reference demonstration of obedience and transcending personal control in recognition of transcendence and transcending personal control and is part of a logical part of wanting to fully transcend and understand control just the same as if you create a virtual reality game the first thing anyone and everyone wants to do is break the game

the mind desires to break and play with its own personal control limitations and study and demonstrate transcending of control when you receive mental constructs as such in meta-perception it life becomes unreal like a comic strip or animated cartoon unbelievable like a virtual reality game but it is not hard to understand why the mind desires to transcend control envisioning blood just like so many people do in video games or wanting to drive through a wall within the video game or otherwise test the limits and demonstrate the limits of the game

it is no different at all in the video game of the loose cognitive state where the game is to play with the mechanism of personal control and study and break that just like fraternity hazing or military training breaks the old limitations and transcends who you were

therefore more idea development is actually needed here not to avoid it but not to avoid the this subject but like in our Greek Roman Jewish Christian religion and Kali the blood-thirsty gods are virtual reality programmers and users give them the controller and the first thing they will do is play with breaking the game

we desire to break the game of egoic personal control limits and push the wrath and smite button

Blood is boring it is all in many video games and movies and all throughout religion so it is boring to confront our interest in transcendent and transgressive violence not for the purpose of blood or violence but for the purpose of breaking which is what the mind wants in studying its control breaking and transcending and fully knowing about personal control and how the transcendent thinking can deliberately intend to break control and show and reach understanding including a desire to carry out some expression of our helpless being subject to our stated near future worldline

there are several distinct ideas interacting at play here but in religious myth they join together in a system such that picturing blood from control transgression means acknowledging the dominance of time in which we are embedded helplessly

a full treatment of converting your wrath by picturing satisfying satisfactory mythic sacrificial blood should discuss each of the dangers that I listed of each mystic phenomenon such as meta-perception the unreality and mental constructs like comic book of experience

This is the good transcendent heart of religious sacrificial violence idea which is actually not about blood or violence but is about transcending the minds control limits and understanding the uncontrollable hidden source of our stream of control thoughts and intentions that we receive

This is a compelling mystic state explanation of the logic and mechanisms at work in the mystic peak window a thorough start covering the basics of the phenomenon including the role of intending wrath picturing blood satisfying the driving logic and project of understanding control dynamics and the ultimate source of control and why picturing the sacrifice animal blood averts the wrath of the god in Greek Roman Jewish and Christian and other mystic state brands to show the God blood is to show your own transpersonal mind your complete grasp of limitations of personal control and effectively meaningfully virtually demonstrating that personal control is subject to transcendent control sources such as ones creator given unchangeable space time worldline

Michael Hoffman January 7, 2013 egodeath.com
Copyright 2013 Michael Hoffman all rights reserved
Group: egodeath Message: 6269 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/01/2013
Subject: Re: Passover blood of sacrifice protectively averts threat of contro
Change convert to avert
Change stated to fated
Group: egodeath Message: 6270 From: michaelagryder Date: 08/01/2013
Subject: Re: Hypotheses for objections, closure, safety
I want to tell you about my experience so you may just shed your opinions on it:


Years prior to my first use of an entheogen (psylocibin), I would have a recurring “dream state” that was induced whenever I huffed gasoline (stupid as hell, I know) that I could never quite make out.

Years later, on my trip, that earlier “gas trip” actually PLAYED OUT IN REAL LIFE, right there, and as it did, I literally thought I was dying, and I remember in that moment realizing that we are not autonomous agents at all, but like cars on a cable.
Group: egodeath Message: 6271 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 09/01/2013
Subject: Defining new field: Theory of Loose Cognitive Phenomenology
I here define a new field of study and theorizing, a domain of knowledge and discussion and model-construction that is informed by the Egodeath theory aka my Transcendent Knowledge, including the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence, and also is informed by the extreme Maximal Entheogen Theory of religion and culture, which I have defined.

The extreme Maximal Entheogen Theory of religion and culture is a useful theoretical tool that must be used and leveraged to its full potential, distinctly from the matter of whether it is true in all details. Block Universe Eternalism is also the official beginning or starting premise, the most useful point of reference possible, for any theory of time. My main Egodeath article serves this role as not exactly the final word, but rather the final starting point that can be carved in rock.

Toward completion of basic mytheme explanation, I do want to explicitly add 2011-2012 mytheme connections such as the following:

o Branching-tree / possibility bush in relation to worldline snake/worm, along with branchless tree/pole/stake.

o Door-frame blood of the sacrificed lamb causing pass-over of the angel of death, into the promised land, and equivalent themes in the Bible where the entire city-founding-like future of the entire nation of Israel was entirely put into threatened jeopardy, such as sacrificing Isaac which would annihilate the entire future of Israel. Tackle explicitly, head-on, why vision of blood sacrifice provided already is a relief in the peak window of the advanced intense loosecog state.


The Philosophy of the Loose Cognitive Binding State

Existing philosophy topics must be all re-styled with a central focus on loosecog. The entire field of Philosophy, as with other fields, must be moved onto a different basis, of loosecog, to, for the first time in modernity, start to find what the field is really potentially all about.

Also, in creating a new field, that interacts with and transforms all other fields, define a domain-specific approach to thinking about loosecog. My thinking is its own authority. The field of Loosecog Studies stands on its own, though it commands power in other fields to electrify and amplify them how they ought to be. We thus combine the unique character of modern era clueless ordinary-state-limited thinking, with classic pre-modern entheogen-based thinking in all fields and domains of life. The modern era was influenced by entheogens but not officially.


It’s not a matter of importing some other, existing domain’s type of logic — such imported logic is reductionism, like Rodney Stark explaining religion as social meme spread, or other full-on reductionist “theories of religion” that say religion is really nothing but neurological activity, or social network; before the turn of the century, people back then committed such totally dismissive reductionism that they “explained” Christianity as nothing but sun worship, being blind and ignorant of the entire subject matter to be explained, utterly failing to provide a theory of religious experiencing, even though some such writers wrote correct assertions about visionary plants in mystery religions. Must use a logic and fitting-together, that is practical and loosecog focused, per my 1988 distinction between “practical control rationality” vs. “pure rationality”.

I steer theorizing by valuing highly Coherentism (a theory above all must be self-coherent) and Phenomenology, rather than airtight math-like positivism. The theory must be generally coherent, though not necessarily with a positivistic math-like coherence. Other fields must not try to reduce or distort this unique field of Loosecog Studies, such as materialist reductionism (“loosecog insights are mere brain neuron misfiring”) or “Loosecog is really just Campbell and Jung.” No, Loosecog Studies is Loosecog Studies: it is not Transpersonal Psychology, nor is it neuroscience, nor is it subsumed under “Theories of Religion”.

Even having mere thematic coherence, in describing 10 driving phenomena in mystic-state experiencing that produce mental model transformation, is the right relevant kind of truth this field must be devoted to and steered by, or directed by. This field is devoted to relevant kind of transcendence of control, thinking, the mind, and cognitive states, and time, and the dynamics of mental model revision and construction (like Paul Thagard’s work). The relevant kind of theory, certainty, and sure-footed knowledge in this field, is, pursue theory development such that it affects control dynamics, ability, and capability, in relevant, practical ways. This model and theory that results is not driven by truth, but by powerful practical effect, as experienced, as a personal control wielding agent.

For example, my theory-construct of the “control seizure vortex” is not driven by truth/logic, like, “positivistic logic dictates there must be control seizure”, but rather, the right kind of theory-work here is to usefully and powerfully describe, ergonomically, in potent shocking fashion, how the mind gets enticed, seduced, hooked, attracted to, as well as horrified, shocked, repelled, hiding and shielding itself from seeing the resulting dynamics and apparent (at least *apparent*) compelling ramifications, like “If I see that fearsome idea clearly, I will be forced out of control.” A thousand dry-canal books by analytic philosophers in the OSC (Ordinary State of Consciousness) are irrelevant here.

The given fact, the datum to be theory-described, is that, in fact, the mind sees a strangely attractive idea in loosecog, and panics, saying “seeing that idea will cause and force and compel myself to practically go generally psychotic-type out of control.” You can argue “no, that’s not convincing, such going out of control is not logically justified and it’s not even properly defined, since Philosophers don’t agree on the nature of our having control.” The latter OSC-type armchair objection is horrifically irrelevant and is irresponsible, shirking the duty, the claimed work the Philosopher claims to be doing: the modern-era Philosopher *claims* that he is explaining things, so, he must do what he claims he is doing, and *explain* — not explain-away or analyze-to-death egodeath until egodeath is prevented from occurring, by sheer force of definition.

Philosophizing must not demolish and explain-away and dissolve the very dynamics that it purports to be good at modelling and clarifying. The labor of Philosophy is to *clarify* what the mystic-state mental dynamics are — not to deny those as merely illogical thinking that’s epistemologically unjustified. Loosecog Studies is firstly about *modelling* the explanandum, of cognitive phenomenology of the loosecog state, as I have done since at least April 1987, and as Benny Shanon exemplifies better than most, in his book Antipodes of the Mind.


Runaway positive feedback of the idea of loss of control

Runaway positive feedback of the idea of loss of control, is another loosecog dynamic phenomenology that brings its own distinct dangers, that combine with the many other dangers from the other classic typical loosecog phenomena, thus producing explosive, severely, fatally dangerous control instability, truly fully problematized, a red-alert ecstatic emergency, that requires and demands a transcendent rescuing and reset of the personal control system in the advanced intense loosecog state.

Personal control thinking gets hooked, like in an invisible net, a labyrinth pulled into the center unavoidably, the effort to avoid seeing the attractive control-death thought exacerbates seeing it, forming a positive feedback loop, runaway feedback of thinking is what the mind senses and panics from:

oh no my kingdom is definitely about to fall because, like I experienced Spring 1986 in daily life in intending to do classwork, or like alcoholism: per Daniel Wegner’s book White Bears and Other Unwanted Thoughts, the very effort to identify the idea that must be avoided, and test whether the mind is able to avoid it, brings the idea more into attention and out of control, so my control power is doomed to fall because I see that the harder I try to avoid the runaway positive feedback of the thought of loss of control, the stronger the envisioning and mental constructing of the loss of control scenario becomes. That’s much of the referent of the figure of the king caught, power dead, in the tree; for example, that dynamic is exacerbated by the experience of a control explosion sitting unavoidably on the worldline ahead.

That dynamic of positive runaway feedback that every effort only exacerbates, is a distinct dynamic distinct from the other dangerous interlocking phenomena-dangers that I listed in recent writings.

There’s revolution, lying ahead on every road
There are new thoughts, ready and waiting to explode
The bell may toll for some
Nothing can change the shape of things to come
— Max Frost

In the chronic controlaholism vortex, which is our seizure passageway to heaven, the old monster that stands against viable self-control that’s required for continued civilization, causes futile battling to retain control. The mind’s attempt to push away thinking about a thing must focus on that thing with full intensity, forming a vicious cycle that crashes the personal control system.

That dynamic happens, as the given explanandum, regardless of naive positivist propositional logic in analytic philosophy and objections such as “But that can’t happen logically, because your terms are not yet defined unambiguously, and thousands of years of philosophers aren’t unanimous. Therefore the problem doesn’t exist.” The dynamic wonderfully does assuredly exist as sure as conscious present awareness, and as sure as “the bus driver controls the bus” in some sense (cue Magical Mystery Tour: tires screeching, 2-second silent cliff fall, then crash explosion).


We have a direction-challenged plethora of tight-cog (Ordinary State of Consciousness) based Philosophizing. We have a little bit of exposure to loosecog, plus my Egodeath theory: see there the immense gap that is to be filled, filling-in the gap between our mountain of crappy OSC-based Philosophizing (at least officially, Hofstader’s book GEB is not about LSD, nor is Rucker’s The Fourth Dimension about LSD, officially). There is a large existing gap, in 1985 or 2013, between loosecog and areas of investigation and writings. Now that wealth of presumably tight-cog-based, OSC-mode Philosophy, books, and writings, is converted, to cover primarily the loosecog state. That instantly doubles our span of knowledge and relevance.


What do all mystics think? It is powerful to assume that all mystic philosophers in the peak state are unanimous and agree with my Egodeath theory, that the Egodeath theory is the explicit completed basics of the Perennial philosophy (against Katz). Thus I assert the mind has innate egoic and innate transcendent mental structures regardless of the corporate brand of mystic religion or era or region or planet or cognitive substrate (android or human or alien makes no difference; control agency switches the same way, from egoic mental model to transcendent mental model). Thus I take the ideas far Furthur than Perennial philosophy and generalizers who say all mystic experiencing is the same. I assert that all mystic experiencing is the same when alien androids ingest their version of acid-equivalent to produce loosecog.

Attention all planets of the solar federation
We have *assumed* control

Importance of forming a foundation of the simplest possible views per main Egodeath article. This singular simple starting point that my Theory defines is more important than some variants possible, some book “4 Views Debated on Topic X Within Loosecog Studies” in 2050. The first order of business must be to define and describe the proposed model that’s the most useful point of reference — my Egodeath theory; *not* trying to test and doubt and kill the thing, the theory/model, through hyper-critical analysis that dissolves-away the entire topic of loosecog ideas, right from before it is even started. The first order of business in Science is form a tentative explanation, which means you must define that tentative explanation.

The official view on mystic altered state experiencing fails every effort to even be a start toward a Science, because in the official story, there’s not even an attempt — despite John Pilch’s work, and books about the Catholic Eucharist and its Holy Spirit salvific effect — to present a *theory* as such, an explicit, summarizable theoretical model of how specifically the altered state is induced and how it works. The “old theory” is no theory at all. Ask the official writers: how did New Testament Christians access the intense mystic altered state? How does the mystic state regenerate us, or our thinking? What is your theory and theoretical hypothesis and explanatory model? The official answer is a heap of words amounting to silence.

There is no official specific hypothesis or explanation of how the New Testament people got into the mystic holy spirit visionary state, nor how that state specifically regenerated the person’s psyche. My new theory competes against the old non-theory, which is but an evasive foggy haze exactly the same as Wasson’s hazy, evasive, noncommittal, prevaricating, self-contradictory and nonsensical, unintelligible non-view, a non-position: his is the same non-position, the same non-theory, as Letcher and all the rest.

John Allegro actually has a *specific* summarizable theory: my theory can really be said to displace Allegro’s *theory* because he actually *has* a bona fide theory, unlike the other writers who posture with lots of words but they have no goods to deliver, no specifiable theory of *how* mystics get into loosecog and are changed thereby, or a theory of to what extent are drugs the driving force throughout religious history? Allegro too, fails to provide a real, specific theory on the extent of entheogen use — he flatly contradicts himself, show us his lack of integrity as a theorist: he is only intent on discrediting Christianity, so he uses kettle logic: Christianity began as nothing but merely a drug cult, which was then forgotten, and that’s proved by the big public mushroom tree in the *middle ages* chapel on the cover of his book without commentary.


In the new field I define, Loosecog (the Philosophy and Theory of the Loose Cognitive Binding State of Mental Functioning), we don’t need general Epistemology. We need Epistemology specifically regarding loosecog phenomenology. Loosecog is the ultimate microscope/lens for doing Philosophy (as with Religion and Cognitive Science, and music, and drama, and Political Philosophy). The loose cognitive state is the Philosophy state of consciousness and is the source of Philosophical thinking, and of Theology. The ordinary state of consciousness (tight mental construct binding) is the non-Philosophical state, where our attempts to philosophize are forced, stilted, and crippled, a travesty of proper philosophizing, which must be loosecog based. To each section heading in a Philosophy book, add “in loosecog”.

The driving goal of theory construction about loosecog phenomenology isn’t truth, but rather, forming a good useful descriptive coherent intelligent model of loosecog, Transcendent Knowledge, myth, religion, and religious experiencing.

The field I define, of Loosecog Studies, is more about ability-knowledge than propositional knowledge. The field of Loosecog theory requires mode-consistent, mode-relevant modelling, not armchair (ordinary-state-based) general airtight logic that compels intellectual consent or even action-consent.

Sitting in loosecog in an armchair, or a room in 1993, all is fine, relaxed, supernally preternaturally mentally relaxed, then you latch a thought and jump up and enter the panic ecstatic mode and your thoughts are compelled and drawn to envision control insights, harm, trembling, excitement, repudiation of the claim to wield freewill-type power, followed by the experience of rescue and re-stabilization, then boringness and loss and depression, the mind busily constructing a new model now, and appreciating the control-loss blood vision being expressed already in the figure of the pass-over sacrifice.

These dynamics are the most important to theorize, to model, to publically discuss, such as the mental dynamic in loosecog, of the vision of Jesus on the cross as the wrath-averting blood of the lamb that causes the angel of death to be satisfied that we are in trembling respectful relationship toward our transpersonal power = God’s power = our given worldline’s power over our freewill-shaped personal control thinking. In that perspective, one’s personal control power is dominated and nullified by the power of God the creator of our given, frozen worldline. Ordinary-state philosophy objects that the worldline is a mere hypothesis — missing the relevant point or dynamic. The mind can construct a compelling mental model of time as a given frozen worldline, that causes a perspective that causes power to collapse, in experience.

The point is not certainty or truth so much as what are the actual capacities of the mind; what control modes is it possible for the mind to subjectively experience, as a matter of *cognitive phenomenological* fact, as the given? Given: loosecog accesses the mind’s ability to experience the frozen worldline helpless puppet perspective. How does that experiencing and mental modelling work? That has nothing to do with truth or compelling analytic philosophy or airtight epistemology. Overthrow the idol of Epistemology and Ontology, Propositional Logic; instead, Theory must worship the god of *cognitive phenomenology*. What are the structures possible in our loosecog experiencing? How do those work? What sparks fly? What explosions are possible, climaxes, and how are those climax capabilities isomorphic or analogous with bodily climax?

Theory propagation and development is War. Treat the official story (historicity, entheogen-diminishing/minimizing) as a conspiracy, a war, a battle. For example, the Ptolemaic model is the conspiracy status quo view that the official culture is bent on enforcing, and the Copernican model must fight against those forces of suppression, censorship, and dogma to spread and develop and propagate and link-up to become commonly available or dominant. The social theory of how science actually occurs.



The theme of “believe” is a central mystic theme in the New Testament. It means learn the transcendent mental model of self, time, and control (per the Egodeath theory) including reading and deciphering mystic metaphor, or Hellenistic meaning-flipping, and also, socially and politically align with and be faithfully committed to and allied with the movement against hierarchical society and power and economics, aligned with the flat-society, no-kings, anti-aristocratic movement that was associated with the Jews.


Loosecog Studies requires domain-appropriate structuring of the model of that domain. What is important and worthwhile is not whether the Egodeath theory is true, or whether we must experience these phenomena as if math equations lead us in airtight fashion compelling us through the search-labyrinth in a single way every time. What’s critical for a good useful field of Loosecog Studies is to generally describes the common personal control dynamics that reliably occur classically, to model this target domain well, to bring relevant explanatory power, in a coherent, intelligible, summarizable model, far more intelligible and relevant than other views or rather other heaps of notions, which are nothing more than hazily ill-defined non-theories.

The first and only real bona fide *theory* of religious experiencing is the Egodeath theory. There are now some “Psychology of Religion” books that don’t suck quite as totally bad as the other clueless junk, in other approaches or domains, that sort of discusses or pretends to discuss religious experiencing.

It is perfectly effective to postulate usefully that all mystic experiences are entheogen-induced. Some precision is warranted, and some generalization to form a compact specific generalized model, Katz and postmodernist hyper-plurality or diversity be damned. Here is harmful, mentally stultifying and useless, defeatist, even nihilistic hyper-specificity in writings about mystic experiencing:

“Every person’s experience is different, so there can be no psychology nor mind nor such a thing as thinking.”
“Every atom is unique, so there’s no such thing as atoms in general.”
“Language is inaccurate and misrepresents, therefore language must not be used.”
“There is no such thing as self (it’s an illusion), separateness, consciousness, mind, freewill, truth, personal control, persons, Gnosticism, a single Christianity, …”

Such defeatist, extremist views, and inept command of language, amount to semantic hyper-caution or political correctness gone insane and committing suicide. My mind is trained by practical engineering mentality, and I objected to the direction QM interpretation went, in my Modern Physics class.


The fact to be explained, which I have done, is that the various cognitive phenomenology of the loosecog state gather their stormy dangers together, in the mind, forming a perfect sea-storm, regardless of whether block universe determinism has a math-like forcefulness of your control-loss, regardless of whether Analytic Philosophy writers all agree that the mind *legitimately* is compelled by logic to say “the block universe idea made me lose control”, and regardless of how they tell the mystic in panic “Wait, you cannot legitimately lose control or enact some notion of such yet; you must first define to all of our standards, what the supposed concept of ‘having control’, and ‘losing control’ mean, precisely.”

I watched my friend die in 1980, he hadn’t even been initiated yet, he had no time for delay but needed ergonomic complete enlightenment, my 1997 or 2006 Egodeath article, though the infantilizing nanny state considers him a ‘child’ in this backwards country. My father discovered his cancer around June 1986 and was gone April 1987. We have no time for further pussyfooting around but I only have time perhaps to deliver the heart of the matter, absolutely directly, not with pretended formalism and such irrelevancies. Thus I now immediately without delay model the heart of the dynamics of the loosecog state.

I turn the story problem around and start with the central peak dynamics and explaining those by the scientific method which is a combination of anything goes and Paul Thagard’s Conceptual Revolutions explanation: replacing the old non-theory by an urgent emergency get-to-the-point executive elevator summary for those who have less than no time to beat around the bush. Loose Cognitive Studies, or the Theory of Loose Cognitive Phenomenology, this field I define, its own authority answering to no one, to no other field, is characterized by my 1997 core summary and 2006 summary main article, which get to the central point first, the central dynamic of the set of classic conspiring Egodeath mental control dynamics.

— Michael Hoffman, January 8, 2013
Copyright (C) 2013 Michael S. Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6272 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 09/01/2013
Subject: Re: Defining new field: Theory of Loose Cognitive Phenomenology
Phenomenological Coherence is what matters for loosecog theory. What’s important in Loosecog Studies, in modelling loosecog dynamics and ideation, is Phenomenological Coherence. I hold block universe determinism a little loosely. It’s not that we realize or prove that Eternalism is certain and true, and that’s what causes or threatens loss-of-control. The causation among the loosecog phenomena which arise together is not the force of propositional logic, but is the force of phenomenological coherence; that is, the block universe supposition (including perception, sensation, and thinking) is phenomenologically coherent with (though distinct from) other standard loosecog phenomena such as runaway positive feedback upon trying to avoid thinking and envisioning and mentally constructing the dreaded intention to lose control.

My main top-level concern is, what is the relationship between main areas 1 and 2 constituting the Egodeath theory:

1. Self-control dynamics
2. Frozen pre-set block universe fatedness
3. Loose cognitive binding, mental construct processing, mental model transformation
4. Mythic metaphor, analogy in religious themes

Especially — despite the recent explosion of popularity of no-free-will — I try to only *loosely* couple the holistic Determinism premise with compelling fireworks in personal control dynamics. I don’t say that block universe fatedness necessarily causes loss of control or such control effects. Nor do I say that the main important truth that’s revealed in loosecog is block universe determinism. The main thing revealed in something called control loss, and that, too, can be doubted and dismissed by criticism. What’s revealed is a combination of, primarily, self-control dynamics shift, and also, the block universe perspective. Those are revealed in loosecog state, and are described by metaphor. What’s revealed isn’t the loosecog state (though, metaperception is revealed, and thus mental construct processing is perceived as such).

Factor 3 reveals factor 2 and especially factor 1. 1 and 2 are distinct; they don’t directly force the other, but they a phenomenologically coherent and mutually supporting. The main point is certainly point 1, not 2. 2 is auxiliary and assists in exploring 1; the block universe perspective works as a helpful tool to trigger and explore personal control dynamics and violations and limitations, so that the mind or thinking can play with and transcend personal control.

All the classic phenomenology are distinct and bring their distinct dangers which don’t each force each other with a math-like linkage or necessary causality, but, these dynamics and dangers have strong compelling Phenomenological Coherence.

— Michael Hoffman, January 8, 2013
Group: egodeath Message: 6273 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 10/01/2013
Subject: Re: Hypotheses for objections, closure, safety
Here I earn my claim to leadership in the field of explaining Schizophrenia, madness, and demon possession. My Egodeath theory is a key, essential part, the main part, of curing the modern mental disease of Schizophrenia, and works with Mad Rights. Madness, enlightenment, who can tell the difference?

Why are you frightened
I am enlightened
-lyric

Here is everything Martin Ball’s explanation of the entheogen-induced threat of control-loss: “trust”.

The Egodeath theory delves fully into modelling and explaining the experienced trains of thinking, feeling, and perceiving in loosecog, including the attractive meaningful promise of and anticipation of enlightenment packaged along with the concommitant pearl-guarding threat of control loss; and why we think of violating personal control and acting out a deliberate loss of control, and why the *idea* – not act – of mythic sacrificial self-violating harm of personal control power is what gives complete mental model transformation and purification of thinking about personal control power.


Another phenomenon and its concommitant distinct danger it brings, in the loose cognitive state: *the sheer feeling of not having control* (regardless of specifics like:

“Per my at last attaining ego-transcendent thinking, I must obediently harmfully violate personal control and act out noncontrol… “

“because control thoughts and intentions are forced upon the mind unavoidably and unchangeably by frozen fatedness per the Eternalism model of time” or

“due to my source of control-intentions being located outside the domain of mr practical personal control power” or

“because the mind is now loosened such that egoic safety control ruts/restrictions/limiters/constraints are disengaged” or

“because the theory of what it means to achieve mature transcending of personal control dictates that the mind must formally demonstrate it has overcome personal control restraints”, and so on).

These are all distinct dangerous trains of reasoning, along with sensations and perceptions. When analyzing and distinguishing these interwoven mutually phenomenologically coherent thoughts/feelings/perceptions, it’s easy to overlook the simplest given, the simplest present subjective reality that’s so vivid, simple, and immediate in loosecog: *the sheer simple immediate feeling of not having control*, is inherently dangerous, and stands alone distinctly, and is exacerbated by all the other dangers that might lead to the total resulting danger.

*The total dangerous conclusion-insight* is the purported “reasoned conclusion” that “therefore I must formally ritually act out the loss of control to repudiate my claim to have power, against God’s power and I must demonstrate obedience to God’s command he has injected into my mind”.

We can agree with this logical conclusion, yes to transcend false egoic implications or claims that you wield a power that’s tainted and polluted with false claims that trespass on the true origin of cybernetic power, you must demonstrate violating personal control constraints.

But if we agree to that reasoning, with Abraham’s knife held obediently above the Isaac who is the future existence of all of the nation (like a Greek citystate founding myth) Israel, we must also *complete* our thinking, passing beyond psychotic scizophenic insight that is as-if-helplessly obedient to the divine command-transmission; reason must go on to say, like the mythic founder of a civilzed pious god-honoring citystate:

“… and, Zeus Easily Satisfied (Meilichios) has already provided this fully satisfying demonstration of mortifying and repudiating the false, contaminated, anti-God implications of personal control power”: god (or our own god-shaped thinking) already provides us the idea of satisfactory proxy sacrifice of our malformed control claims.

For example, assenting to the mythic idea of the satisfactoriness of Abraham sacrificing the bush-caught lamb, is equivalent to demonstrating your obedience to the divine command or demand that you prove your repudiation of your youthful original misthinking about your having autonomous control power.

Schizophrenics agree that we are commanded to transcend and violate personal intention and control; the healed and demon-exorcised mind agrees that mentally affirming the idea of substitute demonstration of repudiating our malformed egoic control-claims is good because no harm is done and we go on into the viable future of the citystate or nation of Israel and have been purged and cleansed of impure control-claims.

Proxy sacrifice (and the sheer *idea* — not the dramatic enaction of proxy sacrifice) enables absolutely completely demonstrating the person’s overcoming of personal control claims, while forever allowing no harm and a viable thriving future for individual and community who agrees to this principle of satisficing by proxy sacrifice — or better and less magically, by agreeing that assenting to the mere *idea* of proxy sacrifice is sufficient and completely establishes purity of our thinking about our claims to have control.

Religion of sacrifice that has eliminated literal sacrifice is meta-proxy sacrifice.

Here is proxy sacrifice: Instead of harmfully demonstrating your repudiation of claims to personal control power through self-harm (terminating one’s viable future as control agent, like sacrificing Isaac/Israel), it’s satisfying and complete to merely sacrifice a piglet or bush-trapped lamb instead.

Here is meta-proxy sacrifice: instead of sacrificing the proxy bush-caught ram, merely think and assent to the *idea* of that God-provided, God-smote sacrificial lamb fastened helplessly and obediently to the spacetime block. The ultimate proxiness is to recognize the proxy idea as purely idea, purely a matter of understanding, not any physical sacrifice work or act.

Salvation is through faith, through idea; fullest perfection of repudiation of malformed egoic claims to have control-power can only be through sheer thinking; it”s 100% a matter of mental comprehension, not any bloody sacrificing to prove repudiation of your control-power claims.

THEREFORE the ultimate pure effective sacrifice is strictly the idea of sacrifice, strictly understanding the mythic meaning of the sacrifice metaphor as such: Jesus’ sacrifice is strictly a myth, not a historical literal event; salvation is through faith not magically efficacious literal physical harm gore blood death.

If we couldn’t be saved and our thinking be purified purely by understanding the fictional mythic story of Jesus’ crucifixion as mythic fiction , then no amount of bloody literal sacrifice can purify our thinking either; salvation and mental purification is a matter of mythic understanding about control-claims, not a matter of physical proving of obedience.

Physical action sacrifice is incapable of proving that you understand control limits. Only your mental judging of your understanding of control and mythic sacrifice can prove to your god-shaped mind that you have exorcised your false claims to control-power.

Are all these ideas airtight per logical positivism? That’s irrelevant. Modelling the dynamics and the given, actual thinking about control in the loose cognitive state, is wgat matters – not QM, not Neuroscience. A theory of myth and sacrifice must apply to the time before Abraham and explain the idea of Isaac’s ram and the idea of Jesus’ salvific sacrifice: how it is efficacious as fiction, not physical magic/acts/works.

The work and blood that actually saves us, purifies our thinking, and without harm, is ingesting the Eucharist, chewing thus the real flesh of Christ between our teeth, receiving thus purified, continued life, not harm, not through dramatic physical magic bloody sacrifice-depicting acts of doubtful proof intended to prove that we supposedly understand our noncontrol. Resorting to physical sacrifice of the mind’s controller claim, to violate and mortify egoic malformed power-claims, only proves, if anything, that you are unclear on the idea of mythic sacrifice.

My explanatory solution involves and finally explains historical debates about the Catholic Eucharist as salvific act and magical “work”, once-for-all sacrifice, and transcending physical sacrifice — but we must literally ingest that flesh of Christ which is literally physical, particularly alchemical.

I have figured out and explained directly, for the first time, now and since 1988, how mystic-state religious experiential insight works, and the neaning of the myth of sacrifice in terms of mental model transformation in the entheogen-induced loose cognitive binding state, regarding self, time, and control.

Michael Hoffman January 10, 2013 egodeath.com
Copyright (C) 2013 Michael Hoffman. All rights reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6274 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 10/01/2013
Subject: Rock worship & the Rock altar of sacrifice
Worshipping toward the black cube of Mecca is acknowledging block universe fatedness and its personal noncontrol implication. The black rock is spacetime fatedness to which we are subject, against our natural animalistic childish thinking in terms of autonomous control power.

To sacrifice, you must find and gather Rock, to build an altar of block universe divine Rock, and sacrifice the mentally purified, rightly willing victim who repudiates his egoic animal yiuthful cross-time control claims.

I claimed to roll, but now in sacrifice on the Rock altar I formally acknowledge that I am a rock.

At this altar of Rock, I formally acknowledge that I, including all my control thought and stream of intentions, am a product of the block universe. My entire worldline stream of thoughts and experiences, mental constructs, is like a worm-shaped, snake-shaped vein that is frozen in a spacetime marble block controlled by the creator of fate. I am not asserting about holistic determinism, so much as, my ultimate point is, aseeting a particular noncontrol. I assert Eternalism and brass rigid snaked shaped worldline *because* that forces my real, main point, which is a kind of repudiation of my assumption that I have a certain kind of control power: that type of control power which fits whith the Possibilism model of time. I repudiate the “tree”; cybernetic possibility branching not that that is important in itself, but rather because I repudiate *the type and conception of personal control* that *fits with* that model of time and possibility. I sacrifice my kingship claim on the tree, my kingship claimed fastened to the tree, hung on the tree. I affirm the snake and its Eternalism Rock altar and that’s not important in itself, but because I affirm the model if personal control that fits with that model. Metaphor’s correct logic, relevant and mathematically perfect: Tree ~= altar of Rock = snake = god-given sacrificial lamb = worldline = ultimately:

Mental model of personal control power that fits with the Eternalism model of time as opposed to the Possibilism model of time. The important ultimate point for mental regeneration or mental model transformation isn’t what time-model you have, but what control-model you have. Focus on the time-model is not important in itself, but is important insofar as it implies, forces, or phenomenologically coheres with your control-model you hold.

The egoic control-model fits with the Possibilism time-model. To affirm the Possibilism or branching-tree time-model is tantamount to affirming the egoic (animalish, childish, youthful, first-born, condemned, original, malformed, impure, diseased, passing, under a sentebce of death, sinful, rebellious, evil-doing, lying, demon-possessed) model of control, control-model.

The transcendent control-model fits with the Eternalism time-model. To affirm the Eternalism or nonbranching-tree time-model with spacetime worm worldline is tantamount to affirming the transcendent (enlightened, loosecog-informed, mature, adult, initiated, divinely approved, non-dying, lasting, permanent, last-born, subsequent, purified, exorcised, healed, cleansed, well-formed) model of control, control-model.

To reject the Possibilism time-model is to reject the concommitant egoic control-model.

To affirm the Eternalism time-model is to affirm the concommitant transcendent control-model.

Our heart or core since we are firstly control agents, is our control-model. Further out but fitting with that is our time-model. Mecca black Rock worship: I assert the Block Universe Eternalism model of time and thus am considered pious and reverent not because I have the right model of time, but because I have the right model of personal control or noncontrol that fits with that model of time. I am, my mental model is, divine-conformant, because I hold the model of noncontrol which is implied by my model of time and possibility non-branching.

Original resarch findings by Michael Hoffman, theorist of ego transcendence since October 1985

This has been another post typed with one finger.
Group: egodeath Message: 6275 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 11/01/2013
Subject: Re: Rock worship & the Rock altar of sacrifice
Max efficient compact model:

tightcog gives autonomy/Possibilism;
loosecog gives puppethood/Eternalism

Voice dictate

The goal is not to model the truth of physics but rather to accurately and efficiently model the truth of how the mind’s experiencing is shaped and characterized in tight cog versus loose cog

in tight cog experiencing is shaped as autonomy, possiblism with branching future possibilities, naïve realism of perception, and literalism of reading

in loose cog experiencing is structured as puppethood, non-control, 2 layer control with hidden uncontrollable thought source and helpless thought receiver, block universe eternalism with worldline
monocoursal non-branching possibility, meta perception and unreality and explicit mental construct processing with pure awareness separated out from mental construct binding, and metaphoricity metaphor awareness consciousness of analogies

this the goal of good theory in the field of loose cog studies or ego death theory : efficiency not accuracy of describing individual things but rather the goal is to come up with an extremely simple model explanatory that has extremely broad explanatory power regardless of that mere facts and data and reality

the main driving concern is not truth data facts history but rather accuracy of generalization in characterizing thinking feeling and perceiving in the tight cognitive binding state and the loose cognitive binding state

what is revealed in loose cog is a mental model alternative which can be described as a single subject that is really conceived or as two or three or four or 12 subjects regardless of whether the subject of rethinking is presented as one subject or divided into two distinct subjects such as control model and time model or four subjects such as self time control and possibility or 12 subjects as I attempted in 1988 through maybe 2005

it was a breakthrough in efficiency of theory structuring to present what is changed in your mental model divided into two subjects : control and time, or personal control agency and block universe time and possibility

axiom: however many subjects you divide it into 1,2,4 or 12 these mental model areas that are transformed in loose cog always transform interlocked together

even though the topics or subjects are distinct they all change together as a system and they each arise together and arise distinctly and independently

these phenomena and thoughts and perceptions and feelings or sensations arise independently but they are mutually supporting ; the arrows of influence go every way and moving from tight cog to loose cog, it’s not only that a changed view of time causes you to have a changed view of control; also your changed view of control causes you to have a changed view of time

time feels frozen in loose cog and Control feels gone in loose cog and the feeling of non-control suggests frozen time and the feeling of frozen time suggests non-control

it is a holistic shift from the holistic tight cog mental model (and experiencing; thinking feeling perceiving ) to the holistic loose cog mental model plus the mystic does not assert in isolation the eternalism model of time nor does the mystic assert in isolation non-control

the mystic asserts the entire system as we see in myth and religious writing it makes little difference whether you depict time in myth or possibility branching or the king losing his power it is all one system

in todays breakthrough in efficiency and simplicity of theory especially a four quadrant diagram that is universally equivalent to all mythic figures of snakes kings time branching possibility all of those , and hunting searching the mind and Elevated awareness unbound from mental construct processing , and being in love and attracted to the God that kills oneself upon seeing the God’s power , and hero and monster guarding the treasure that is attractive , all of that is suggested efficiently in four quadrants

on the left is tight cog which gives egoic thinking

the upper left box is the mental model of egoic control ,the egoic mental model of control labeled
Autonomy
or other one word label

lower left : egoic mental model of time labeled
Possiblism
( branching future)

The right side is tight cog binding, which is transcendent mental model

upper right: the transcendent mental model of control labeled
Puppethood
(non-control, two level control: hidden uncontrollable thought source and helpless thought receiver )

lower right :the transcendent mental model of time labeled
Eternalism
(block universe single pre-existing future with no meta-change)

we could merge the time model and control model in one box “the mental model of time self ,control and possibility “, but per myth and rock lyrics the most efficient way to present all the data the topics that are changed remapped in the mental model is as two groups :control and time

in 2006 I thought metaphor is not what is revealed , loose cognition and mental model transformation is not whats revealed

what’s revealed is mainly not one monolithic subject but two distinct subject areas in theory of religion and in myth and rock lyrics

those two main distinct interlocked subjects are control and time

all the details of what mental model topics change can be placed into those two key fields and in January 1988 I pictured when reading “way of Zen”, Minkowski space time frames of reference possibly going back to Edwin Abbott around 1880 with roots in theology of god’s eternal perception and predestination when relativity started in 1905

Relativity distracted everyone from the ego death implication of Monkowski space-time diagrams which clearly depict the theology eternal and some perspective and the antiquity idea of and ask experience of frozen time block universe time as space bike dimension which is not an idea that requires Einstein and special relativity in modern 20th century but is self evident in intense loose cog state

The ancients knew more, and more relevant, content in cognitive science and philosophy of space-time than the stupid modern non-thinkers, single state thinkers childishly limited to the ordinary state of consciousness in the dark ages of the 20th century

what kills the ego is not relativity but Minkowski space time especially particularly time as a spacelike dimension which happens to be precisely the mystic model of time and people object to determinism but especially people object to pre-existence of the future because that above all kills the ego and

people should have recognized that this is exactly what is revealed in religion and the Mystic state both the eternal model of time and yes absolutely the ramifications that go with it of non-existence of the moral agent and implies no free will which is exactly the concern the focus of religion and mysticism

but people didn’t understand religion mysticism or metaphor so they did not recognize that the adventures of a square by Edwin Abbott taken up by Rudy Rucker in 1976 first edition of the fourth dimension indeed does talk about the God eternal point of view that reduces us to puppets and snake shaped world lines frozen in space time

yes absolutely time as a spacelike dimension leading up to relativity absolutely has ramifications of ego nullity but people didn’t know enough about myth and mystic perception and theology to recognize that time as a spacelike dimension and its implication of noncontrol is exactly the heart of religious revelation in the loose cog state

The latest fad by materialist reductionism is to claim that no-free-will follows from reductionist science

they are ignorant as a rock about the mystic state and myth and religious experiencing and theology and religion or they would realize that no free will per the block universe eternalism model particularly time as a space like dimension regardless of quantum mechanics is exactly the concern of mystic religion and transforming ideas about moral agency

these scientists have a immature outsiders view a non-initiate view of religion reading it completely literally

they fail terribly totally to recognize that no-free-will, and the resulting supposedly problem unacceptable of personal non-control, is what is actually experienced vividly, not merely abstractly thought about, revealed in the mystic peak entheogen state that is esoteric insider religion real religion interpreted intelligently not childishly like these ignorant atheist reductionist scientists who are bad philosophers and ignorant of mystic experiencing or reading deciphering mythic metaphor

All throughout the ignorant single state modern era people stupidly only objected to causal chain determinism and time as a spacelike dimension saying these are unacceptable this view must be rejected because it eliminates moral responsibility and free will and leaves no role for the self and personal agency

they were blind, these points are precisely the points that are revealed in the mystic state but people failed to connect these ideas because they were ignorant of deciphering myth and recognizing metaphor in which religion has always asserted time as a space like dimention block universe eternalism and everything that implies for the illusion of self personal control autonomy and personal control power which is all exactly what is revealed in esoteric religion

but people simply dismissed that without, they dismissed these supposedly objections such as non-control without even realizing that they were exactly rejecting that which is experienced and felt and perceived in the loose cog state

I am the first modern theorist to explicitly recognize in summary the extremely efficient depiction moving from egoic mental model on the left to transcendent mental model on the right which is goes along with switching from the tight cognitive binding state on the left to the loose cognitive binding state on the right

regarding the subjects which change in the mental model it is best it is most efficient to present the monolithic change as two subjects: the control model and the time model so that:

in tight cognition the mind is programmed to hold and think and feel and perceive the autonomy control model in conjunction with the possibilism time model and

in the loose cognitive state the mind is programmed to have and think and feel and perceive structured as the puppet could control model in conjunction with the eternal is him time model

the control vortex loss of control dynamic is part of the process of mental model transformation and recognition of metaphor is part of the transformation process and meta-perception perceiving mental construct processing as such factors in

but mainly what is revealed in the mystic state is grouped under the subject heading of control and time

those are the master themes interlocked though distinct

I do not say that Eternalism is the truth and that is reality that is revealed , that the enlightened person must agree with is eternalism

rather I say absolutely and efficiently that tight cog makes you have the possibilism perspective and loose cog makes you have the Eternalism perspective in conjunction with , in tight cog makes you have autonomy and loose cog makes you have puppethood

The breakthrough today is simplifying like myth not even sentences:

Tight cog: egoic mental model , autonomy, possiblism; also naïve realism, and literalism

loose cog: transcendent mental model, puppet hood, uncontrollable thought source& helpless thought receiver, eternalism block universe worldline; meta-perception = awareness unbound from mental construct processing to look at it, and metaphor awareness, also perception solipsism the bubble of awareness like in a cave of mental constructs experienced as a small room filled with television screens

but my main most efficient most compact myth depiction ,the shortest formula most potent and efficient is:

loose cognition gives autonomy and possiblism feeling
tight cognition binding gives puppet hood and eternalism feeling

Islaam is a religion in the shape of a people worshipping a big cube of marble sent down as message from heaven to earth, message of block universe eternalism together with puppet hood, personal noncontrol.

when the block universe meetyourright fell to earth it killed many heathen unbelievers in no free will and eternalism and noncontrol but by a miracle Mohammed who believed correctly in these things survived and walked away to have a future

I am a nature worshiper I worship rocks and snakes and trees especially trees without branches also sacred springs from which streams flow and caves and a fork in the path where a decision is forced to occur

Original research findings by Michael Hoffman, theorist of ego transcendence since October 1985
Group: egodeath Message: 6276 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 12/01/2013
Subject: Re: Bk: Ruck/Hoffman: Entheogens, Myth, and Human Consciousness
This is my book review.

Entheogens, Myth, and Human Consciousness
Carl Ruck, Mark Hoffman
http://www.amazon.com/o/asin/1579511414
158 pages (not 224)
Ronin Publishing
Publication Date: January 8, 2013


Myth refers to entheogens & slight phenomenology of consciousness

“Entheogens, Myth & Human Consciousness” summarizes the Carl Ruck paradigm. This book is a short summary and survey of his work, of the books and articles in his school of thought, which includes Mark Hoffman, R. Gordon Wasson, Blaise Staples, Clark Heinrich, Jonathan Ott, and Jose Celdran. Ruck and Hoffman show that psychedelic entheogenic psychoactive visionary plants are the origin of religions and religion. Despite the word ‘Consciousness’ in the title, this book and the work of Ruck and his circle does not cover cognitive phenomenology.

Given that this book is a general survey and summary of Ruck’s work, I’m critiquing and commenting on his general approach: how Ruck’s coverage advances understanding, and what the limitations of that approach are. I won’t go into details here, such as some points Ruck makes about Wasson that are debatable.

It would be a mistake to focus on whether Ruck proves that religion and myth refer to entheogens. I axiomatically assume that priests and scholars agree with Ruck even if censorship artificially gives the appearance that scholars agree with the official entheogen-diminishing paradigm. Entheogen scholarship should, like Ruck, give little attention to the official, entheogen-diminishing view. This book reviews the 20th Century history of the reception of the Entheogen theory of religion. Ruck shows how Wasson told Robert Graves to self-censor Graves’ 1950s discovery of mushrooms as the foundation of Greek myth and initiation religion.

Ruck’s work, if extrapolated to the maximum, shows that religion comes strictly through visionary plants. This use of his work supports a simple coherent model of intense mystic experiencing. The theory-development work at hand is not to compel a change in the official dogmatic story of religion, but rather, to make a compelling, actual explanatory model of religion, given that religion is accessed through entheogens. Recognizing entheogens as Ruck does is only the starting point; we must not stop theorizing where Ruck stops.

As far as I’m concerned, the only scholars who matter are those, many scholars, who agree — silently or vocally — with Ruck, or at least who, under the reality of heavy censorship, ensure that their writing is compatible with Ruck’s entheogen theory. Ruck is certainly correct; actually he doesn’t go far enough in emphasizing that every religion or brand of transcendent knowledge originates from visionary plants. That aspect of Ruck’s thinking isn’t worth critiquing; it is the starting point or mere preliminary for a critique. The entheogen theory of religion is not controverted or in doubt, as far as I am concerned, as an entheogen theorist.

Rather, the necessary critique is: how well does Ruck explain the meaning of religious myth, given that all religion comes from visionary plants? Not very well; his explanation is a long way from satisfying meaning. Ruck’s approach is misleading in that it puts the main emphasis on the visionary plants instead of correctly putting main emphasis on specific cognitive experiential dynamics as the main referent which myth describes by analogy and metaphor. This book does not present a new kind of coverage of myth and cognitive phenomenology, as Benny Shanon’s book does (The Antipodes of the Mind: Charting the Phenomenology of the Ayahuasca Experience http://amazon.com/o/asin/0199252939), and as my work focuses on.

The Ruck paradigm is that myth points to the sheer use of drug plants in religion, as if what is revealed in religious revelation and enlightenment is the sheer presence and the fact of use of the visionary plants in religion. But I have always treated entheogens as merely the threshold outside the area that needs theorizing, merely the starting point and given; given that visionary plants are the way that the mind accesses religion, what then, is revealed within the resulting cognitive state, after ingesting the sacrament? How does the mind structure its mental construct processing in the non-visionary and the visionary-plant states: what’s the difference?

What’s the difference in experiencing, thinking, feeling, sensation, and perception, in the non-visionary contrasted with the visionary plant state? Ruck and his school halt at the doorway, showing how religious experiencing is accessed, but not what the cognitive phenomenology are, that are accessed. The barely touches on the topic of “consciousness”, or cognitive phenomenology. Benny Shanon goes somewhat further past the doorway, as if Shanon has experience with the visionary plant state and Ruck does not. Ruck writes from an outsider, armchair-theoretical, non-experiential perspective: this book doesn’t cover entheogen-induced experiencing.

For example, Ruck frames the myth of the battle as the battle to get the visionary plant. But within the religious cognitive state that the visionary plant induces, battle occurs, but which you would hardly glean by reading Ruck. Ruck and his school are not useful within the mystic intense peak altered state; the explanation of myth halt at the threshold: his theory gives us the visionary plant, but doesn’t discuss what to do mentally with myth once the mind is within the visionary plant state.

After reading Clark Heinrich’s book Strange Fruit: Alchemy, Religion and Magical Foods: A Speculative History (http://amazon.com/o/asin/0747515484) and Mark Hoffman’s Entheos journal issues, I gathered additional compelling evidence to define the simple extremist maximal position, that religion and the mystic state is and was always accessed through visionary plants. But my contribution to entheogen history scholarship is merely in support of my main focus, which is all on the “consciousness” aspect, the cognitive effects of the visionary plants, which is barely covered by Ruck, despite this book’s title.

Another author starting to build on Ruck’s work to go further than Ruck through the doorway into the altered state is Luke Myers, Gnostic Visions: Uncovering the Greatest Secret of the Ancient World (http://amazon.com/o/asin/1462005489), but again we there get more of a tour of mythic philosophy and metaphors but without resolving those metaphors into their ultimate, non-metaphorical referent in terms of describing cognitive phenomenology and the difference between mental construct processing in the non-visionary versus the visionary state of consciousness.

This book is a good survey and summary of the essential Ruck paradigm. Ruck’s work is not the final word on myth and entheogens, but is an essential intermediate building block, which gives us the fact that religion and religious myth comes from religious experiencing which comes from visionary plants. The end of the book states: “… there always seems to be something more to explore, just a little bit further along the way.” Ruck only shows that religious myth is generally concerned with the entheogen state of consciousness. But no details within that subject are provided: what are the cognitive phenomenology that occur within the entheogen-induced state of consciousness, and how are those cognitive phenomena experiential dynamics themselves described by myth?

Ruck’s paradigm has nothing to say to the person who is in the intense mystic cognitive state, or to describe to scientists what the person is experiencing; in the final assessment, his theory’s contribution is just to repeat “Religious myth refers to the use of entheogens.” This is the point of failure or petering out, of the Ruck paradigm; its boundary past which his map shows only “terra incognita” and “here be monsters”. Ruck’s map only shows the shoreline of the new land; his map doesn’t extend within the land that’s given after ingesting the plant and then turning attention beyond the plant.

Ruck’s paradigm mainly maps mythemes to the physical plants and the sheer fact that they are used, but only slightly maps mythemes to “consciousness”, that is, to the cognitive dynamics that result from visionary plants. His mapping of myth isn’t equipped and capable of describing the difference between the dynamic cognitive phenomena in the non-visionary state versus the dynamic cognitive phenomena in the visionary state.

Benny Shanon points the way significantly further here. Shanon is more truly based within the visionary state, providing a starting effort at describing how the visionary state works (after ingesting the plant then turning attention away from the plant itself) and how the visionary state contrasts with the non-visionary state.

I have found Carl Ruck’s work, including this book, to be valuable at showing that religious myth comes from visionary plants (though he doesn’t take that idea to the simple radical extreme of my maximal entheogen theory). I also found Rucks’ work valuable for providing an initial hypothesis of myth: he shows us a myth and explains how it refers to the visionary plant, and I then read his mapping and say: yes, so far as you go, that mytheme maps to visionary plants, but you are missing the more important, more ultimate, non-metaphorical mapping and meaning of that myth you have informed me of; ultimately referring to certain experiential dynamic phenomena about self, time, control, and fatedness.

Benny Shanon asserts: myth refers to visionary-state cognitive phenomenology, whatever they might be. Ruck asserts: myth refers to the use of visionary plants, with whatever experiencing results from that. The book Gnostic Visions asserts: Esoteric myth refers to experiential Philosophy describing the altered-state experiencing, whatever it consists of. My approach is more specific: religious myth refers to the use of visionary plants to cause a specific mental model transformation from a particular non-visionary mode and mental model, to another particular visionary mode and mental model, of self, time, control, and fatedness.

Thus Ruck and Shanon provide a subset of entheogen-revealed knowledge: they are correct so far as they go, but Ruck is incorrect in putting primary emphasis on the sheer use of visionary plants instead of putting primary emphasis correctly on the particular cognitive dynamics that result from the plants after having taken the plants — Ruck’s theory is not particularly equipped to focus on describing how myth maps to cognitive dynamics, as Shanon rightly calls for but as Shanon himself is not adequately equipped for.

Ruck’s paradigm is a transitional bridge to support explaining how myth points beyond the visionary plants, to the specific mental dynamics that the plants produce, such as the threat of loss of control, the snake monster guarding the specific visionary knowledge the mind desires and is attracted to, and divine help and rescue from the threat of the monster that’s part of the package deal, forming a gateway or boundary crossing — as a specific cognitive dynamic regarding our mental model and mode of experiencing, of self, time, possibility, and personal control agency.

That’s what wrong with Ruck’s school, though he contributes an essential building block toward transcendent knowledge: he puts the main emphasis on mapping myth to visionary plants, when instead, the main emphasis is correctly put on mapping myth to the specific dynamics of personal control power and mental model transformation that result from visionary plants. Visionary plants are the entryway, or the welcome mat outside, not themselves the content of what’s revealed in the peak window of the intense mystic altered state.

Carl Ruck and Mark Hoffman are absolutely correct that religion comes from visionary plants and that myth (to some extent) refers to the use of visionary plants, as summarized in this book; that’s the only explanatory theory of religion worth committing to developing. But their emphasis is mistaken and limited, mis-structured, missing the mark, and misrepresenting what myth means to the mind within the resulting intense mystic altered state. Their work is useful as a building block in support of a proper, well-formed focus on identifying and clearly modelling the true structure and concern that myth describes, with plants as a mere given and starting point but not the heart of what myth ultimately refers to and describes.

— Michael Hoffman, January 12, 2013
Copyright (C) 2013 Michael S. Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6277 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 13/01/2013
Subject: Re: Popularity of no-free-will/determinism, history of no-free-will
My Egodeath theory amounts to a history of the idea (across all fields) of free will, no-free-will, causal-chain determinism, Possibilism, and Eternalism (block-universe holistic fatedness with time as a space-like dimension and a single, pre-existing, frozen future, with snake-shaped worldline spacetime worms). The one view or the other fits with perception, thinking, and experiencing in the ordinary state of consciousness (OSC) versus in the intense mystic altered state of consciousness (ASC) induced by entheogenic visionary psychoactive drug plants and chemicals. These ideas were mapped by mythemes.

This history awakens and surprises people. The history of the two main opposing ideas was completely misunderstood and barely considered — as surprised as people are when they read my theory; as surprised as fundamentalist scholar Dave Hunt when, after decades of writing Christian books, he discovered Reformed Theology for the first time, and was shocked. As surprised as New Age spiritualists when they discover with horror that Ramesh Balsekar portrays Advaita Vedanta as not only non-self, but no-free-will.

Idiot newagers (not Timothy Freke) love with peace and light the idea of non-self — yet are shocked at the idea of no-free-will: well, what the hell did you expect: self doesn’t exist, yet we have the power of free will?! If free will exists but the self doesn’t, who inside your mind has free will? The self, in this sense, is precisely that which owns and has and wields and controls the power of freewill. All spiritual theorists say that enlightenment is knowing non-self. Only Balsekar and I say (and many others, but people didn’t realize that!) enlightenment is precisely about knowing no-free-will, but also, experiencing it and perceiving it, in addition to thinking it.

The Myth of Free Will (3rd Edition)
Cris Evatt
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0970818181
August 2010
140 pages

Chris Evatt’s survey book The Myth of Free Will shows sacred branching crossroads on the cover, which she doesn’t recognize as reinventing classic entheogen-inspired myth. Her survey book constantly relies on the OSC-based, inferior concept of causal-chain determinism as the supposed “reason” there’s no-free-will, whereas mystics consider block time, the frozen spacetime Rock, which is experienced and perceived in the psychedelic cognitive state, as the reason there’s no-free-will. This book constantly makes the single-state generalization fallacy error of saying “we feel we have free will” — showing that she, like the other writers, is illiterate about multi-state knowledge.

I fully vividly explained, explicitly, in my 1997 and 2006 summary articles, that whether we feel freewill is a function of whether we are in tightcog or loosecog, and lately in 2013 I am 100% forceful and crystal clear and simple about this: the OSC gives the feeling of free will along with the autonomy-puppeteer prime-mover feeling and Possibilism (branching future); the ASC gives the feeling of no-free-will along with puppethood and frozen-time Eternalism block universe fatedness. When you switch between tight and loose cognitive binding, your mind switches between feeling free will and no-free-will, together with the concomitant feeling of time, possibility, control, and existence of personal self agency. Generally, the mind switches from one model of control-and-time to the other model of control-and-time.

2-state, not single-state, thinking is required to recognize this simple theory that only I am genius enough to spell out for the uninitiated and those whose minds are polluted by the last-ditch effort to Save the freewill delusion by sacrificing to the god of QM, demonstrating that we are confronted with a choice between rationality (no-free-will; single future, which is as easy to visualize as a Rock) and insanity (QM, freewill, manyworlds as in infinity to the power of infinity number of worlds).

We feel freewill when we are in tightcog, but we are programmed to feel no-free-will when we are in loosecog, though that experience comes with the experience of chaotic unconstrained non-control or instability which the author unknowingly (in roundabout way, not making the connections) describes in what we “fear” about no-free-will. She is correct on page 29 (3rd Edition) but she doesn’t realize her description applies to psychedelic mystic revelation! “We think of ourselves as first causes, prime movers or little gods.” (She there assumes unconsciously the tightcog state.) Actually her description of how unstable we’d be if we had freewill, and how people fear no-free-will: all the fears she describes in either scenario match exactly the dangers encountered in the entheogen-induced loose cognitive state.

She has no idea of this; she doesn’t see the massive connections to be made here. It’s uncanny because her book is filled with descriptions of monsters, fears, revelations, spirituality, and fragments of such wording — disconnected, accidental, unconscious, fragmented words from mystic religion here and there throughout her book but this set of writers hasn’t put the pieces connected together, which I have. My theory and thinking is structured, coherent, interconnected, organized; not scattered and incoherent and willy-nilly like her book’s accidental dis-integrated incoherent borrowing of mystic language.

Just as many writers in the 60s were totally wrong when they expressed the delusion that psychedelics are a “new” way of mystic experiencing, so now are the many scientist, atheist, naturalist, rationalist writers totally wrong when they express the delusion that no-free-will is a “new” conception of spiritual enlightenment. What did they *think* religion was *all about*? What they ever lack still though is the realization that the feeling of freewill is programmed in the mind’s structure that is in the OSC, and that the feeling — the experience — of no-free-will (*not* the experience, though, as imagined in the OSC, of causal-chain determinism) is programmed in the mind’s structure that is in the ASC.

Religion is precisely the switch from the experience of freewill original sin to the experience of no-free-will regeneration and enlightenment. The “new” writers are under the delusion that their theory is superior to religion, when in fact, their theory is a clumsy, ignorant, OSC-based groping in the dark toward what is the essential nature already of religion, religious experiencing, mystery religion initiation, as my 1988 draft describes, as my 1997 core summary defines, and as my 2006 main article describes with detailed mapping of mythic metaphor to the non-metaphorical referent: nullity of personal control power, and no-free-will, within a frozen Eternalism block-universe model.

After ingesting the traditional psychedelic sacred meal, block-universe Eternalism and your frozen, pre-existing worldline is intensely *experienced*, not modern armchair theory with its bad malformed explanation that’s based on OSC notions of “causal chain determinism”. These mystically illiterate outsiders, today’s naturalist rationalist scientist writers, say there’s no-free-will as a “new kind of spirituality that replaces religion” but they argue there’s no-free-will *because* causal chain determinism, whereas instead, mystic initiates say there’s no free will because they saw and experienced and felt fatedness, they were turned to rock, frozen and attached, fastened to spacetime and disempowered, seen by helpless awareness that felt no power to control thinking.

— Michael Hoffman, January 12, 2013, based on original research and idea-development since 1985
Copyright (C) 2013 Michael S. Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6278 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 13/01/2013
Subject: Re: Hypotheses for objections, closure, safety
The danger of being Dionysus instead of yourself: profound uncontrollable shift or handover of intention

Another aspect, angle, or vector of danger in loosecog is the feeling that you are not yourself but your will and sense of self is now that of some other transpersonal self. Your normal self identity is in abeyance, including your usual intentions, restrictions, constraints, ruts, controls, and restraints. When you enter loosecog, at the start, you say “I intend to keep control.” But that ‘you’ goes into abeyance together with its intention to keep control, safety, viable future, and sanity. The mind of Dionysus, God, the Holy Spirit, or your transpersonal daemon takes over your center of intention.

Despite the lack of feeling of personhood or control in loosecog, there is still a kind of feeling of a personhood center and control, though it is different than usual and lacks the usual connections, style, and character; it is an alien center, though still experienced as a subjective control center. You have control in loosecog, but the problem is, it is a different, unconstrained ‘you’ who now has control over your thinking. The you who declared the intention to keep control at the start is disengaged — so much for keeping control; that intention becomes a joke and the mind of Dionysus that you now are, laughs mocking your original intent as comically, pathetically impotent and null.

Dionysus — that is, your thinking now, with ‘you’ now being Dionysus instead of the usual you — desires to show you finally and definitively, your transpersonal thinking or mind desires to definitely demonstrate so that you forever remember and are thus forced to permanently change your thinking and not re-incarnate into the egoic mental model, that your cross-time control power is null, illusory, and a mere convention or habitual assumption.

This danger overlaps with other danger aspects I’ve listed and accounted for, or inventoried in my systematic model of all the mutually supporting dangers of loosecog.

— Michael Hoffman, January 13, 2013, based on original research and idea-development since 1985
Copyright (C) 2013 Michael S. Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6279 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 13/01/2013
Subject: Re: Rock worship & the Rock altar of sacrifice
Rock, granite, marble, stone in religious myth and religious practice:

Rock is a metaphorical analogy description of the vision (thought, feeling, and perception) of Eternalism: the frozen single-future easily visualizable fate-given Block Universe with your pre-existing future worldline (snake-worm shaped) forced upon you uncontrollably, unavoidably; holistic vertical determinism (heimarmene/fatum/fate) with time as a space-like dimension (not causal-chain determinism acting “horizontally” from one time to the next).

Stone temple (classic-style Rock band: Stone Temple Pilots) (‘stone temple’ was the first item that came to mind in starting this list)
All carved stone/rock/marble in Antiquity, and literary themes of carved stone/rock/marble
Rock cave of initiation to be reborn out from
Jesus’ rock tomb, roll away the stone door
Enemy king sealed in a cave tomb then hung on a tree in Old Testament
Gathering a pile of stones to form an altar (Old Testament)
marble altar of sacrifice, sometimes with a block universe Eternalism worldline snake/worm sculpted in relief
Black rock meteorite sent from heaven to earth in Islaam and pre-Islaamic stone worship
Cave of rock in mountain of rock
Moving statues/idols
Rock city: Petra
Jesus is the Rock we cling to
Peter the Rock, PTR
Rock tomb
The rulers (kubernetes, governors, control-agents) see Medusa’s attractive beautiful snake-haired head and are turned to stone
Turn to pillar of stone or salt
See the goddess and be turned into a statue
Petra stone-cut city
stone sarcophagus
Prometheus chained to the rock volcano mountain (fastening to spacetime block like you experience vividly, intensely, and tangibly in Salvia)
creation of man from clay: clay = malleable rock; non-rigid rigid material; water vs. rock; clay vs. rock
Rock banqueting bench
Mithras (= you the initiate) born from a rock
Leoncephalic (lion-shaped) god of time sculpture holding keys to boundary or state-crossing, wrapped by heimarmene-snake, heimarmene-snake head above the lion-man’s head, in Mithraism
Amanita in its egg-shape non-split phase as rock
Pine cone like rock like Amanita egg in Mithraism
Hermes pillars of stone
Split open a rock and God is there
Volcano crucible = liquid rock
Metallurgy, dissolve and coagulate, turning metal from rock mountain into liquid and then shaping like sculpting it
Water from a rock; water vs. rock
Divine crystal palace
Jesus descends to Hell or purgatory where flames purify and burn away illusory aspects of thinking, and rescues and pulls the saints out from the rock cave (possibly pictured as lion’s mouth, lion’s rock den, with heimarmene-snake body)
Recognizing that the water waves in the divine palace are an illusion, crystal is real (Jewish mysticism)
Snakes bind Pirithous to the rock banqueting bench in Hades’ at a visionary-wine banquet
Rock sculpture of grapes (fruit of the ivy-shaped vine) containing a heimarmene-snake

Metaphor: born from the rock cave tomb underworld
Jan 10, 2005
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath/message/3757

— Michael Hoffman, January 13, 2013, based on original research and idea-development since 1985
Copyright (C) 2013 Michael S. Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6280 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 13/01/2013
Subject: Re: Rock worship & the Rock altar of sacrifice
ego death :: block universe fatedness perception
=
bodily death :: burial in rock/stone/marble

Typically made of rock, to connect ego death and block universe perception to bodily death and burial in literal rock:
ossuary
catacomb
crypt
necropolis
tomb

Often with relief sculpted depiction of banqueting on entheogen wine, snake, or other mythic themes. All items in antiquity were deliberately mapped 100% to mythic analogy for mystic-state experiencing, which is the starting point. Never “does this item refer to mystic state experiencing”, but rather, “Given that everything should be made to refer to mystic state experiencing, that we ancients must so map everything as best we can, what is the best way we can think of to map the item to mystic state experiencing?”

An ossuary could be made of wood or metal, which map readily to mythic analogy of loosecog phenomena, but stone/rock/marble is typical.
wood = tree of virtual illusory possibility branching, rooted in spacetime
metal = dissolve and coagulate, rock to liquid to rock-like

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6281 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 14/01/2013
Subject: Efficient theory: compact binary contrast & labels, innovative ergon
I have done innovative breakthrough work condensing wider and wider scope of connections and insights denser and denser. Do not take for granted that any of these connections and structured models are obvious, just because I have succeeded after decades of labor in discovering and engineering a scheme, a solution, to make this all become simple. If you say that now, after my Egodeath theory, Transcendent Knowledge is simple, you must say that it has become simple because I did the hard work of designing and discovering the possibility, how it is possible to describe all this simply.

There’s all the difference in the world between a simple elegant theory (E = MC^2) versus the labor and intelligence and strategy behind that like Maxwell’s formulas or Copernicus and Kepler’s solar system model. It’s now simple and obvious, any fool knows, planets orbit the sun elliptic orbits. That’s foolishly self-evident now only thanks to hard work; you are in fact standing on shoulders.

In 1997 I condensed core enlightenment to a few pages. In 2006, I condensed core and periphery to just 27 pages including a few-paragraph condensed yet clear summary from which the rest unfolds or unpacks. Now I condense religious revelation to a couple Maxwell’s equations of electricity and magnetism, electro-magnetism. I have made revelation and enlightenment simple and easy but this does not mean that anyone could have done that.

Kepler and Copernicus worked *hard* to discover and formulate the *easy* model. I worked *hard* to discover and engineer, like the iPhone or GUI, or graphical web browser, or light switch: this Egodeath theory is a breakthrough ergonomic technology, that required decades of ergonomics work at the same time as capability expansion (such as explaining and deciphering myths; expanding the descriptions of all aspects of ‘danger’ in the loosecog state).

___________________________

This is my innovative groundbreaking breakthrough of the past few days, regarding use of labels for time-model and control-model, and for lining up egoic vs. transcendent binary contrasts more thoroughly than before. Here is a 4-word elegant model of enlightenment, or transcendent knowledge:

Autonomy / Puppethood
Possibilism / Eternalism

Similarly efficient was my extracted contrasts from Elaine Pagels’ book The Gnostic Paul in 2002. http://www.egodeath.com/pagelsgnosticpaul.htm

I put some effort in the 2006 article toward labelling Block Universe Determinism as a mental model of time and possibility. But I didn’t and should have made an efficient label — not only a description in sentences or long phrases — for the other contrasting tightcog original youthful conception of time and possibility. I dislike ‘determinism’ because it’s always defined as causal-chain determinism, which is an abstract notion from the ordinary state. I like ‘heimarmene’ because it is defined in the ancient Greek mind as frozen future, pre-given future time as spacelike dimension, metaphorized as “rock”, the Block Universe, William James’ “iron block universe”, as people started to think of again in late modern era around 1880-1910 — though then it was too conflated with causal-chain determinism.

I like ‘Eternalism’ because it is a model of time and possibility, and is not conflated carelessly with causal-chain determinism as the supposed “reason” or mechanism. Proper Philosophy advocates of Eternalism don’t carelessly say “Eternalism is the case *because* of casual-chain determinism”.


We cannot move forward with the Epic of Evolution focusing on no-free-will until advocates understand the full history of no-free-will (not merely the history of causal-chain determinism). Only in 2006, with my Egodeath theory summarized on the Web, are people able to understand, identify, and recognize the history of no-free-will. No-free-will is broader than the history of this strange recent late-modern concept of so-called “determinism”, which means, quite narrowly and specifically, causal-chain determinism (too narrow with un-considered presumption). Determinism, which is always conceptualized and defined as, specifically, causal-chain determinism, says there’s no-free-will *because* of causal-chain determinism.

Thus the idea of “determinism” attempts not only to assert that there is no-free-will, but also — as I point out and object to — it conflates the general assertion of no-free-will with the narrow, particular explanation of *why* there’s no-free-will: the notion of ‘determinism’ is over-specific and sloppy, ill-defined, in that it asserts that supposedly the mechanics underlying no-free-will.


Description A or B below: B fits my system-wide binaries better, so therefore, I don’t want to say the Egodeath theory is agnostic about the mechanism that justifies the no-free-will view; rather, loosecog dynamics do give a particular mechanism or system of reasons why no-free-will is held: not because of causal-chain determinism, but mainly *because of time* being seen as a space-like dimension, and also, due to non-control feelings, non-self feelings, and other cognitive phenomena of the loosecog state.

A. Mystic-state loosecog perception of freewill is neutral and agnostic: it states that no-free-will is the case, but doesn’t attempt to state the underlying mechanism, and doesn’t conflate the assertion about the underlying mechanism with the overall result (no-free-will). I don’t think this description is accurate; things are more systemic, system-wide, in the contrast between non-mystic and mystic thinking/feeling/perceiving.

Or, description B is probably more accurate and relevant: we strike the reasoning of “no-free-will, because of causal-chain determinism” and specifically assert instead “no-free-will, because of time being perceived as a spacelike dimension, and other loosecog phenomena”:

B. Mystic-state loosecog perception of freewill asserts a different underlying mechanism and reasoning in support of no-free-will: it states that no-free-will is the case due to seeing the simple clear vision of time as a spacelike dimension. The mystic conception of no-free-will conflates the assertion about the underlying mechanism (time is easily seen as a space-like dimension) with the overall result (no-free-will). But mystic loosecog also argues that no-free-will is a result of several factors, and that many factors interact in a network that goes beyond the simplistic statement that “no-free-will is the case because of factor F”: time as spacelike dimension, no-free-will, nullity of personal control power with respect to time, noncontrol of your thoughts because your pre-existing worldline injects thoughts.


Similarly, loosecog is dangerous not because of a single reason, but because of a network system (per Paul Thagard’s book Conceptual Revolutions) with interconnections: you think, feel, and perceive several factors or phenomena, each which brings its own distinct dangers, and these distinct dangers interconnect to produce the overall danger, which we could vaguely label as “the threat of loss of control” (a partly misleading label for a serious and real experiential dynamic).

The loosecog mystic thinking doesn’t say “I have reason to believe no-free-will, not on a basis of causal-chain determinism, but I don’t know what the basis of my no-free-will view is.” When asserting no-free-will, loosecog thinking says “There’s no-free-will, and the basis of this is mainly time as a spacelike dimension, and partly the illusory nature of the self as personal control agent who wields freewill while causing one possibility branch to become real when that agent really could have made a different possibility branch real instead.”

Loosecog thinking doesn’t simply say, purely, “no-free-will is the case”. What’s delivered to the mind in loosecog is an entire system of thinking/feeling/perceiving regarding some 10-20 main cognitive phenomena.

Tightcog thinking doesn’t simply say, purely, “no-free-will is the case”. Typically, during the modern era, tightcog normally said “no-free-will is the case, because of causal chain determinism”. That’s extremely what Cris Evatt does to the extreme in The Myth of Free Will: she strongly equates and conflates no-free-will with the specific explanation of the underlying mechanism as causal chain determinism; for example, she doesn’t mention the linguistic philosophy argument of the A-series vs. B-series McTaggart (I dislike McTaggart’s focus on argumentation from grammar, though semantics certainly are important).

Ever since 1986, possibly October 1985, I’ve used the useful binary of “egoic vs. transcendent” (for example: egoic thinking, transcendent mental model, egoic mental mode, transcendent control system, egoic control thinking). And I came up with phrases to label my 1988 breakthrough “crystalline ground of being” idea, or “Block Universe Determinism” in my 2006 main article. But in the Philosophy of Time, there is a useful simple use of labelling: Possibilism versus Eternalism, which links simply to my Egoic vs. Transcendent labels and to my tightcog vs. loosecog labels.

My simplicity of labelling and organization made a breakthrough the other day by doing *more* like my long-established “egoic vs. transcendent” distinction and my probably April 1987 distinction “tightcog vs. loosecog” (those abbreviations are more recent; I wrote in 1987 like “loose mental construct binding” and “tight mental construct binding”. I mean to discuss the super-useful use of a single word label on 4 particular things, a breakthrough of a couple days ago, which leverages both my 1986/1987 use of ‘egoic’ vs. ‘transcendent’ and ‘loosecog’ vs. ‘tightcog’ on the one hand, and — an improvement over my 2006 article framing — the labels from the Philosophy of Time, ‘Possibilism’ vs. ‘Eternalism’, which also correlates directly to my recent, 2011 or 2012 (check the evolution of my ideas in my posts) strong simple contrast between snake vs. tree.

The breakthrough of January 2013 is this efficient compact portrayal using binaries and binary-labels fully:

Egoic control-model — Transcendent control-model
Possibilism time-model — Eternalism time-model

There is an entire list of contrasts with clean mapping or opposition, but that 4-box approach, where there is a single word label on each box, summarizes or highlights the most important thing in the contrast. Yes, like 1986, I contrast Egoic on the left and Transcendent on the right, but in particular, the breakthrough is to use a single word label applied to two (not 1 or 3, 4, or 12) boxes on the left: what’s most important is your control-model and time-model, which is sort of asserted in the 2006 main article, but is so elegantly, efficiently expressed like the named, clearly contrasting basic views in the Philosophy of Time, in addition to my long-established ‘egoic’ vs. ‘transcendent’.

Before the breakthrough, my not quite 100% efficient depiction or math equation (model) was:
egoic control — transcendent control
idea of time passing — block universe determinism

In that old messier depiction, I have semi-clean labels for control, but a bad asymmetry: I have a *label*, for block universe determinism, which is a long label (bad) and uses the word ‘determinism’ (bad), and worst of all, *lacks* a label for the egoic, tight-cog model of time.

My April 1987 breakthrough in style of thinking and writing (notation) was a matter of forging labels for my ideas, instead of — like my Oct 1986 notes show — only having complete sentences and phrases. I didn’t think much in terms of idea-labels in 1986, though I wrote “egoic mental model” and “transcendent mental model” then. My notation was clumsy and slow, I had no system of compacting my ideas by labels like my April 1987 start of routine strategic use of acronyms along with the clear new concept of “mental construct” also from April 1987. When I came up with the notation-style and thinking-style of acronyms and idea-labels as such, I simultaneously came up with the concept and language I formulated of:

mental construct [MC]
mental construct processing [MCP]
loose mental functioning binding [LMFB]
loose mental construct binding [LMCB]
mental construct relationship matrix [MCRM]
mental construct relationship matrix indexing
dynamic mental construct relationship matrix [DMCRM]

This efficient notation and use of idea-labels was like a programming language that enabled all throughout April 1987 to January 1988, my phase of ramp-up to breakthrough.

My notes in Pentel P205 mechanical pencil used a box, not square brackets, to declare acronyms, and mixed-size all-caps. I also used word processing files, with mixed-case and used ***MCP*** notation to declare acronyms, during that period. I have printouts of those files.

The time-model and control-model are the most important, overarching areas of the mental model that are changed during loosecog. That’s reflected by my priority-sequence, most important first:

1. Cybernetics; control
2. Determinism; time
3. Dissociation; loosecog
4. Metaphor; analogy

Relating those in order 4, 3, 2, 1:
Metaphor describes how dissociation changes the mental model of time and control.


To make the abbreviated list of binaries, only contrast 1, and contrast 2:
1. Cybernetics; control — Egoic vs. Transcendent mental model of control
2. Determinism; time — Egoic vs. Transcendent mental model of time/possibility


To make the complete expanded list of binaries, start by contrast within 1, 2, 3, and 4:
1. Cybernetics; control — Egoic autonomy vs. Transcendent puppethood
2. Determinism; time — Possibilism (branching future) vs. Eternalism (block universe & preexisting worldline)
3. Dissociation; loosecog — Tightcog & naive realism vs. Loosecog & meta-perception of mental constructs
4. Metaphor; analogy — Literalism vs. metaphor-recognition/facility


Then expand those 4 areas further, in that same order:
1. Cybernetics; control —
Egoic autonomy vs. Transcendent puppethood
monolithic control (“little god”; puppeteer; unmoved mover) vs. 2-level control (uncontrollable thought-source & helpless thought-receiver)

2. Determinism; time —
Possibilism (branching future) vs. Eternalism (block universe & preexisting worldline)
free will vs. no-free-will

3. Dissociation; loosecog —
Tightcog vs. Loosecog
Naive realism vs. meta-perception of mental constructs

4. Metaphor; analogy —
Literalism vs. metaphor-recognition/facility
Historicity of Muhammad/Jesus/Paul/Buddha/Church Fathers in Antiquity, vs. a 100%-fictional reading

It’s possible to add peripheral topics:
Chronological naive credulity vs. chronology agnosticism
Credulity in official story vs. ignoring official story
Credulity that published scholarship actually represents what scholars believe, vs. reading & writing while consciously taking heavy censorship into account


Add to that list of binaries: see my recent January 2013 lists of dangers in order to get my list of phenomena (which each bring distinct dangers). These phenomena/danger lists are mostly in the thread “Hypotheses for objections, closure, safety” (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath/message/6240). Present each loosecog phenomena via simple label contrasted with forging a simple label for the opposed, tightcog cognitive dynamic: Imagine a 1-word label or acronym for the following pairs:

the feeling of never having been in this thought-sequence before; jamais vu (‘I’ve never seen’ — here meaning, not “the unfamiliarity of something that you know is familiar”, but rather, meaning “I haven’t been in this thought-sequence before”)
vs.
the feeling of deja vu

The feeling that one’s intentions in the future don’t exist yet and you will later create them or will now constrain and help create them
vs.
The seeing/feeling/thinking that one’s intentions that are sitting on the near-future worldline, along which the mind is being unstoppably, unavoidably moved forward.

The feeling that you have the ability to constrain your thinking
vs.
Personal control power, that escapes any attempt, on the part of the mind, to constrain it.

The feeling that you have control over your thoughts
vs.
Perceiving that the mind’s thoughts arise from outside of the domain of practical personal control power.

Thinking is constrained, unimaginative, rutted, restricted, habitual, held within narrow unimaginative ruts
vs.
The loosened mind ranges over its entire domain of possible thoughts which the mind is capable of constructing.

Egoic, cross-time intention to retain sanity, safety, control, and a viable future; subject to and constrained by cross-time restrictions and safely limited thinking, limited to a safe boring shell or prison of restraints and limitations.
vs.
Transcendent control, deliberately demonstrating violating personal control constraints, able to deliberately override them. The transpersonal mind deliberately and formally (sacrificially) mortifies the egoic control system, to transcend it and be born out from it, to break out of that shell.

Naive realism of perception (I directly see, I directly perceive the world, the world feels real, I feel real, and my past feels real)
vs.
The feeling of unreality. Metaperception of visual perception and of mental representation of the world and your past.

The feeling of being your familiar personal self
vs.
The feeling of being Dionysus, a divine transpersonal control-identity.


All aspects of egoic vs. transcendent mental mode and mental model can be efficiently summarized by contrasting them in a 2-column table with 1-word labels or acronyms:

…………………….Egoic | Transcendent
Model of time: Possibilism | Eternalism
Model of control: Autonomy | Puppethood
Mode of cognitive, mental construct binding: Tight | Loose
Mode of perception: naive realism | metaperception/unreality
Mode of metaphor: literalism | deciphering; consciously mapped to Cybernetics/Heimarmene/Dissociation
Other aspect A: A[Egoic version] | A[Transcendent version]
Other aspect B: B[Egoic version] | B[Transcendent version]


My breakthrough of a couple days ago (or more accurately describing how breakthroughs play out, this is my current breakthrough of this week and now and tomorrow) is this compact, efficient, binary-switching description, with (ideally) single-word labels.

The mind simply flips between these two contrasting sets, each aspect interlinked and yet distinct, mutually supporting: for example, in tightcog, your control feels like Autonomy, operating control on the world that’s modelled with the time-model of Possibilism. The Autonomy-feeling operates in the mental mode or context of a Possibilism model of time, personal control, and possibility; while in contrast, in tightcog, control feels like Puppethood used like a transmission gear controlling the mind’s thinking within a framework or model of time that’s the Eternalism model of time, virtual-only possibility, personal non-control and trans-personal control.

The mind flips simply back and forth between these entire sets. But, assuming psychedelic initiation at puberty, which was normal in the late 20th Century, first for a long time there is only tightcog, and the associated aspects. Then, during the series of initiations, the mind is repeatedly exposed to the loosecog set or system of interconnected, mutually supporting thoughts, feelings, and perceptions, in some sense gaining a permanent memory of these dynamics, so that when the mind returns to tightcog, your knowledge in tightcog is now different than before you were exposed to loosecog. The goddess dips you into the flames in the fireplace each night — each initiation — gradually making you immortal by burning off your mortality.

I reject the premise, as a wishful expectation, that the enlightened person has loosecog constantly. The mind isn’t designed that way. The ancient authorities who used psychedelic mixed wine all the time in their recreational religious funeral-cult banqueting clubs, were not tripping all the time, but only during the initiations or banquet feasts, exactly the same as a late 20th Century Acid Rock lyricist or head. Non-drug-induced mysticism is a myth, a fabrication of official, OSC-only dogmatic censorship-driven scholarship, and in that same sense, the notion that we learn to be in loosecog all the time when we are enlightened, is nothing but fantasy conjecture and baseless wishful thinking.

No one is in loosecog all the time, except irrelevant people: we should reject the ideal or expectation that being enlightened means permanent constant loosecog. The mind normally is designed to only be in loosecog during entheogen use, and then to return to tightcog, only retaining an abstract mental model of what was seen and experienced and thought in loosecog (and will be seen again in the next loosecog banqueting sessions).

— Michael Hoffman, January 13, 2013, based on original research and idea-development since 1985
Copyright (C) 2013 Michael S. Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6282 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 14/01/2013
Subject: Re: Efficient theory: compact binary contrast & labels, innovative e
Corrections, and definition of ‘immortal’ or ‘eternal life’

[typo correction:]
B. Mystic-state loosecog perception of [no-]free[-]will asserts a different underlying mechanism and reasoning in support of no-free-will: it states that no-free-will is the case due to seeing the simple clear vision of time as a spacelike dimension.

[clarification:]
Tightcog thinking [naturally generates the freewill view, but when scientists in tightcog do try to think about no-free-will, they don’t] simply say, purely, “no-free-will is the case”. Typically, during the modern era, tightcog[-based scientist who ignored their feeling of freewill and tried to get rid of the illusion of freewill by OSC-based explanation] normally [argued by saying] “no-free-will is the case, because of causal chain determinism”.

[clarifying the table heading format:]

Aspect of cognition: Egoic | Transcendent
—————————– ——— ——————–
Model of time: Possibilism | Eternalism
Model of control: Autonomy | Puppethood
Mode of cognitive, mental construct binding: Tight | Loose
Mode of perception: naive realism | metaperception/unreality
Mode of metaphor: literalism | deciphering; consciously mapped to
Cybernetics/Heimarmene/Dissociation
Other aspect A: A[Egoic version] | A[Transcendent version]
Other aspect B: B[Egoic version] | B[Transcendent version]

[typo correction:]
The Autonomy-feeling operates in the mental mode or context of a Possibilism model of time, personal control, and possibility; while in contrast, in [loose]cog, control feels like Puppethood used like a transmission gear controlling the mind’s thinking within a framework or model of time that’s the Eternalism model of time, virtual-only possibility, personal non-control and trans-personal control.
____________________________________

The mytheme analogy of ‘mortality’ refers to the catastrophic collapse or control-seizure and instability of egoic control power during loosecog; the ego death experience. The mind after multiple initiations and studying the Egodeath theory eventually becomes constant, reaching a steady-state, no longer making fundamental discoveries and changes in your mental model during each loosecog session. The perfected, completed, mature mind flips into loosecog and back to tightcog during each psychedelics-banqueting religious recreation party, but your mental model no longer changes or dies or collapses and is re-constructed: those dynamics of mental model transformation are past; you have been cleansed of sin and death and gained eternal life, a-thantos, no-longer-dying, immortal life; you were a mortal but were passed through the fire and now are a victorious divinized hero.]

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com, January 13, 2013
Group: egodeath Message: 6283 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 14/01/2013
Subject: Heaven & Hell, meaning-flipping metaphor; Naturalism
In the egoic mental model, supportable by the New Testament, which is a meaning-flipping text:

o Heaven is where you go after bodily death if you are a morally good freewill moral control agent, who does morally good things.

o Hell is where you go after bodily death if you are a morally bad freewill moral control agent, who does morally bad things.

In the transcendent mental model, supported by the New Testament:

o Heaven is where you go if you are exposed to loose cognition by the psychedelic traditional Eucharist multiple times and understand no-free-will, the illusory nature of moral control agency. ‘Doing good’ refers to ‘knowing no-free-will’. You go there after ego-death.

o Purgatory is where you are if you haven’t fully transformed your mental model and are still being exposed to loosecog to change your model of your personal control power.

o Hell is the state of being separate from fatedness and the Creator of your worldline. To the enlightened mind, ‘doing evil’, and ‘idol worship’, refers to not understanding no-free-will, but instead holding to the animal youthful notion that you have autonomous power, independent from the Creator.

Sophisticated transcendent use of metaphor can handle such kinds of asymmetries. For example, when you do evil, it’s your fault as a freewill agent. When you do good, it’s due to God, who is all-powerful and you only did good because of receiving grace despite your evil natural nature. That’s the clever Augustine asymmetry, which leads people to assert that Augustinism contradicts itself. It’s a designed, cross-mode, meaning-flipping system, where definitions deliberately shift between egoic meaning-network connections and transcendent meaning-network connections. I figured this out and cover it in my 2006 main article. It has to do with mis-leading; it is a little tricky, because we expect symmetry and constancy in a system; we don’t expect to be tricked and have the meanings, all together, flipped in midstream to throw us off balance.

Similar dynamics of meaning: as The Myth of Free Will complains, freewill is a magical and supernatural irrational notion. No-free-will is rational and naturalist (scientific). But I ask with the New Testament: how then shall we describe your continued use of your freewill circuits, your practical childish animal notions of freewill, your return of your feeling of freewill when the mind returns from loosecog to tightcog? After the mystic peak seizure of no-free-will realization, the restoration of control stability and tightcog and freewill feeling/perspective/thinking, is described as transcendent magic and supernatural, back in the now-enlightened tightcog state. Show me a no-free-will-advocating rationalist, and I will show you someone who acts in a magical supernaturalist way but hasn’t made a coherent story about that fact.

The New Testament makes a coherent story: you start like a rebel magician claiming you have freewill; in loosecog you see no-free-will, the truth; returning to tightcog, you return to the feeling (which often makes the mind forget enlightenment, thus being “re-incarnated” into egoic freewill-morality thinking) of freewill/possibilism/branching future/autonomy: how do you justify your use of the freewill mental structures in your life after you have written a book denouncing freewill as a delusion? The NT way is to say metaphorically “now I am a divinized magician”.

Naturalism-spirituality writers are confused and ignorant: they in fact believe the same thing as the New Testament writers and original audience, and the ancient Greeks (but, not integrated with the *experience* of non-self and no-free-will), but they merely fail to decipher and recognize the metaphors of magic and supernatural. Such writers denounce freewill agency as a “ghost” and a “little god”. Those writers ignorantly think that their position is different than the New Testament or Greek religion.

They have the same position, and, ironically, they steal and borrow the same language, to condemn freewill thinking, as religion uses; but those writers lack the *systematic* deciphering of mythic metaphor: they lack integrity: they steal and incoherently (non-systemically) cherry-pick isolated mythemes without grasping and recognizing that the entire system of religious mythemes asserts — but with some deliberate misleading meaning-flipping — the same view and believe that these supposedly anti-religion, anti-supernaturalism writers assert. These rationalist advocates of no-free-will don’t realize it, but they are true believers in New Testament Christianity and ancient Greek religion, but those writers do a bad job of it; they are half-digested; they are still half-insane, half-incoherent.

A full comprehension, full purification of your thinking, requires not what they do — cherry-picking an occasional “funny” “clever” stealing of the analogy ‘exorcise’ freewill illusion. These nominally “anti-religion”, “anti-supernaturalism” writers borrow metaphor without seeing what they are doing: they are *agreeing* with the metaphors, and they are irrationally inconsistently unconsciously *assuming* that the New Testament system instead means these metaphors literally.

These writers are headed toward having no difference between their belief system and that of the Bible, except that these writers 1) lack the integrated loosecog state, and 2) falsely and ignorantly project their own literalism or literalism-assumptions onto the Bible, while privileging themselves as being so intelligent that they only take the supernatural Bible elements metaphorically.

These writers should be recognizing as I decoded, that the Bible expresses a 2-mode meaning-flipping dynamic of understanding and of recognition, systematically — not static, incomplete, incoherent, half-digested, like these writers who borrow “humorously” words like ‘exorcise’ and fail to recognize that they are following the meaning-path that the Bible already carved out. They are re-inventing, re-discovering the Bible’s meaning-system, *piecemeal* without realizing they should instead be asking what I asked since 1986, “How is the Bible expressing no-free-will — and the mental model *transformation* from natural animal childish freewill thinking to no-free-will, by systematic metaphor analogy?”

These writers fail to describe a system by which society first supports the child in forming their freewill thinking and then formally routinely sacrificing that delusion to teach and show no-free-will. That’s what religion is. But instead these writers don’t cover the concern, the consideration, of first teaching freewill before advocating to all people of all ages no-free-will. These writers only think in terms of always teaching no-free-will to everyone in the society without thinking about whether young children should be taught no-free-will.

http://www.naturalism.org/freewill1.htm
Thomas W. Clark wrote:
“Breer also addresses the supposition that even if a belief in free will is false, it is necessary for maintaining the social order:
…..”Despite the obvious restraining influence of guilt and pride, it can be argued that free agency represents one of the primary sources of the very anti-social sentiments against which civilization must defend itself. Teaching our children that they cause their own behavior and thus must take responsibility for it, leaves them open to far more than guilt. For those who do not succeed in love and work, a belief in agency invites self-loathing, bitterness, isolation, and spite. “

Does Naturalism advocate teaching young children no-free-will? The tradition in human history is likely to be like the ancient Greeks: freewill is for children; young adults should be initiated into no-free-will when growing a beard. That also fits our own de-facto 20th Century convention of young adults using entheogens. At young adulthood, the mind is drawn to entheogens; this fits with the model of psychospiritual development: first you develop ego and freewill, and then when that’s done, you sacrifice your limitation to that, and undergo initiation and sacrifice of the youthful self, and then form a more encompassing, multi-state mental model.


These writers have many of these elements, sprinkled throughout Cris Evatt’s book The Myth of No-Free-Will. But they are a long way short of first, recognizing that the NT is metaphor, and beyond that, identifying and deciphering exactly how the NT is metaphor and how all religious myth is metaphor that already has been asserting forever, what these ignorant “new” writers are “creating” as an “alternative” to “supernaturalist” religion. These rationalist advocates of no-free-will are piecemeal, slowly, unawares, while claiming otherwise, in fact re-inventing redundantly what has already been invented: Greek, Roman, Jewish, Christian religious understanding and metaphor-mapping.

These OSC-limited no-free-will advocates, lacking systemic literacy of mythemes, claim to provide an alternative to supernaturalist religions, but they only show, by making that false claim, that they are merely illiterate about mythic metaphor and analogy. How many supernaturalist words are these blind writers going to steal before they realize they are preaching the gospel of New Testament Christianity, and just didn’t know it? They show themselves to be ignorant blind dense fools, in their assumption and misreading — falling headlong into the meaning-flipping trap that Hellenistic metaphor laid for them — that the ancient religionists are ignorant blind dense fools.

We finally are faced with the issue of whether to teach young children no-free-will, or whether we love and cherish and protect youthful innocent delusion of freewill: shield the eyes of the children lest they be sacrificed before their time and we lose them to Hades too quickly.

— Michael Hoffman, January 13, 2013, based on original research and idea-development since 1985
Copyright (C) 2013 Michael S. Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6284 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 14/01/2013
Subject: Re: Heaven & Hell, meaning-flipping metaphor; Naturalism
[historical clarification]
They are re-inventing, re-discovering the Bible’s meaning-system, *piecemeal* without realizing they should instead be asking what I asked since [1988 and especially in 2001], “How is the Bible expressing no-free-will — and the mental model *transformation* from natural animal childish freewill thinking to no-free-will, by systematic metaphor analogy?”


Since 1985 I’ve been asking “How is the Bible expressing transcendent knowledge?” I had a limited theory of transcendent knowledge and a limited theory of the Bible in 1985, when I began developing the Egodeath theory. I went to a Lifespring encounter training in Spring 1985, and was exposed to A Course in Miracles. My father was a leader in these activities, and in Humanistic and Transpersonal Psychology.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6285 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 14/01/2013
Subject: Re: Intellectual autobiography & origins of Egodeath theory
I went to a Lifespring encounter training in Spring 1985, and was exposed to A Course in Miracles. My father was a leader in these activities, and in Humanistic and Transpersonal Psychology.

Since 1985 I’ve been asking “How is the Bible expressing transcendent knowledge?” I had a limited theory of transcendent knowledge and a limited theory of the Bible in 1985, when I began developing the Egodeath theory.

Sometime in June 1986 to Spring 1987, I wondered what psychedelic was meant by the “scrolls” eaten in Revelation. I was entirely unaware of any entheogen books or articles; I didn’t really encounter entheogen history scholarship until quite late, 1999. Untainted by reading or conversations, I independently recognized and discovered the scrolls metaphor allusion to psychedelics in Revelation; I discovered and recognized the entheogen basis of the Bible independently, thus corroborating many traditional mystics across history, and demonstrating that myth is effective in communicating and continuing the traditional mystic practice and language of entheogenic mystic altered state metaphor.

I asked since 1988 and especially in 2001, “How is the Bible expressing no-free-will — and the mental model *transformation* from natural animal childish freewill thinking to no-free-will, by systematic metaphor analogy?”

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6286 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 14/01/2013
Subject: Re: Bks: Self illus., no-free-will, cog neuroTheol, neoPsych, no-Jes
This is my review of The Myth of Free Will, by Cris Evatt.

The Myth of Free Will (3rd Edition)
Cris Evatt
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0970818181
August 2010
140 pages

Unknowingly re-creates the esoteric layer of mythic religion

This book is well-written, intelligently presented, extremely clear in presentation, and presents the promised content. The author’s passages generally alternate with the passages from other writers. This book is a clear presentation of no-free-will advocacy as conceptualized only in the ordinary, non-mystical state of consciousness, based on speculation and abstract reasoning about causal-chain determinism and materialist neuroscience. This book is well-written, within its limitations of scope. She is clear in communicating the points she intends to make. It is easy to understand what she is asserting, and to see where the boundaries of her thought are.

I have a library of books on free will & determinism, Reformed Theology, theory of time, personal agency, cognitive science/philosophy, and connected topics. I highly recommend this book, as a survey of current conventional thinking about no-free-will, mostly as an isolated field — with my deep caveats here, based on my decades of theory development. I’m glad she dismisses quantum physics (the last-ditch shelter for the freewill delusion) as irrelevant. She doesn’t mention the oft-mentioned manyworlds view of QM; she silently assumes a single future, though this is a major pivotal distinction in models of spacetime.

When I made a theory of metaphysical enlightenment that was, unfortunately, based on no-free-will (surely a severe drawback and deal-breaker for popular reception), I readied myself to face enormous disagreement in Philosophy and Religion and Cognitive Science, but to my great surprise, most writers throughout history already agree about no-free-will. This survey book confirmed that realization further. It turns out that what’s been lacking in is not belief in no-free-will, but rather, thoroughgoing cross-field connections — this book does little to remedy that lack of cross-field connections. These authors are too insular, reading each other.

Despite her exposure to Ramesh Balsekar, who rightly explains no-free-will along with no-self in Advaita Vedanta, Evatt has a too-narrow, uninformed assumption that religion asserts freewill. She steals fragments of mythic themes from religion, and then misrepresents religion as monolithically asserting freewill, thus misrepresenting the mystical content of religion. The result is an outsider’s blind groping in the dark toward understanding how to interpret religious mythemes. She references fragmented, disconnected bits and pieces of religion. She has no coherent theory of religion, but only a sub-academic, late modern-era folk model of religion and its assertions of no-free-will.

If Evatt is actually going to shut out a real engagement with mythic or supernaturalist religion from her book, she needs to stop making claims that her view is different and better than such religion. She compares her own defined view to exoteric Christianity, ignoring esoteric, no-free-will Christianity. When we reject Christianity as too confusing outside its Hellenistic context of myth and mystery initiation and outside the associated social-political context, we need to comprehend the esoteric meaning in that system which we are rejecting and claiming to improve upon: experience no-free-will. I’ve shown that New Testament Christianity is a systematic two-state meaning-flipping system; there’s more than just pop naive exoteric freewillist Christianity.

She ought to doubt Sam Harris’ (page 70) uncritical assumption that the meaning of ‘sin’ is single, rather than two distinct meanings, surface and hidden then revealed, in the Bible. Such writers roll out the outsider’s view of religion and then complain that the result collapses upon critique — as if the Hellenistic writers and Bible authors didn’t know that and must have been as crude thinkers as these writers. If the view of the Bible’s religion that you present is bad, that can’t be the right way to read it; blame yourself: open your eye and blame your own inability to read mystic myth right.

Evatt doesn’t deliberately, intelligently engage with religious myth: her titles start with “Myth and (Topic)”; she isn’t qualified to critique the use of myth, including the mythemes of ‘magic’, ‘miracle’, and the ‘supernatural’, in religion; she takes a careless attitude when handling mythemes such as ‘exorcise’ and “little gods”. The book has only fragmented bits of the Possibilism and Eternalism models of time (such as, the future, your future path, already exists); there’s no discussion of spacetime worms or worldline snakes, which I’ve systematically revealed in religion.

Her book doesn’t include contributions from religionists, such as theologians. She ought to have included theologians. By not formally including religion or mysticism in her book, we end up with malformed caricature of religion and mystic experiencing, that misrepresents it. Which is rather a disaster, given that she ends up redundantly re-inventing and re-discovering religion, unknowingly, while claiming to bring an alternative. She needs to specify how her view is truly different than existing religion, and cover the history of no-free-will in religion.

This book assumes a particular mechanism behind no-free-will: causal-chain determinism: it repeatedly asserts that no-free-will is the case, because of causal-chain determinism. She isn’t aware of mystic themes of experiencing time as a spacelike dimension, which asserts no-free-will from a different basis than causal-chain determinism.

Evatt introduces Naturalism, which is a kind of religion that doesn’t involve supernaturalist themes or magical themes. Evatt (and apparently Naturalism) unconsciously asserts the same thing as a interpretation of New Testament Christianity, which I detail in terms of Hellenistic meaning-flipping which in the original mode implies freewill morality, and in the regenerated mode asserts no-free-will as purification and the truth about moral agency.

She says that no-free-will is safe, that we can rely on our habitual thinking. That is dangerously not true when possessed by spirituality consciousness. The fears that she dismisses, expressed by freewill advocates, the “worst case scenario” (her term) you can imagine, is fully constructible in the unchained imagination guided by God only knows what hidden, uncontrollable directors of the mind’s thoughts and intentions. The no-free-will advocates she surveys haven’t engaged in full-on battle with this fear of the forces they inadvertently mention and casually dismiss, even though they mention, in fragmented fashion, key religious mythic words such as ‘fear’, ‘madness’, and ‘battle’.

Evatt describes the severe problems of the mystic no-free-will experience without realizing it. “Working to live without the freewill illusion provokes a simple fear: what if I behave terribly badly? What if I give up all moral values and do terrible things? How can I make moral decisions if there’s no one inside who is responsible? This natural fear is why few people try to live without free will; they fear that if they stop believing in a self who chooses to do the right thing, then they will run amok and all hell will break loose. Is the fear justified? I suspect not. This common fear is no excuse to carry on living in delusion.” (page 11) Note her mention of mythic, religious, and mystic terms, in unsystematic isolation, to describe views about no-free-will (“all hell will break loose”, “living in delusion”).

She critiques “optimism bias” (page 88), but the rationalist no-free-will advocate, when in the mystic frame of mind, will be made to understand why one would ever pray for regaining optimism bias, which has been discarded. Famous last words of the zealous atheist no-free-will writer: “Because a concept’s worst-case scenarios display minimal similarity to the category ideal, the brain routinely distances them from active consideration. So it’s a struggle for the brain to bring up bad scenarios because it consigns them to the fringes of consciousness. In other words, the brain won’t take us there. It doesn’t want to get into trouble.” (page 88). Bible mystics laugh at this sure-to-fail naivete; trying to depend on our reliable animalish ruts of thinking fails when in the mystic state, and getting rid of optimism bias brings fatal instability of control.

Evatt (and Naturalism) doesn’t integrate the intense mystic altered state, and is unaware that that traditional Eucharist-induced state of consciousness enables the mind to actually vividly experience no-free-will. When listing the dangers of drugs on page 66, Evatt doesn’t mention the dangers of entheogens, such as the terrifying, fascinating, numinous experience of the threat of loss of control due to experiencing no-free-will. Evatt dangerously misrepresents and underestimates the dangers of fully and vividly believing in no-free-will, while the Bible, in contrast, presents fear and trembling. She neglects to cover the use of visionary plants in the so-called “Naturalistic” religion she introduces, leaving the reader to do that legwork instead, though college students aren’t good at researching the literature.

She could graduate from cutesy cartoons about free will and god and angels, to Reformed Theology — she’d do well to preserve her comic joking aspect, and incorporate the tragic or serious engagement with no-free-will in religion and cultural history. She uses magical and supernatural themes herself — inconsistently, unsystematically, carelessly, incoherently. She inconsistently and unsystematically steals or cherry-picks, “humorously”, words from supernaturalist-styled, magic-styled religion (“little gods”, ‘exorcise’), without recognizing that this is the same position as New Testament Christianity.

“Most scientists and philosophers intellectually reject the reality of free will while carrying on their lives “as if” it exists.” (page 12). But that continued reliance on free will, which she encourages, is like magic supernaturalism. These writers just don’t make the connections to see that they are re-constructing an already available intelligent reading of Bible religion. Evatt and Naturalism inconsistently claim to reject supernaturalist themes, but then, hypocritically, in disorganized, fragmented fashion, borrow or steal those same metaphors to clarify this supposedly “new” and “modern” position of no-free-will.

Before people claim that their “new realization” of no-free-will is new and evolved, they ought to first recognize the history of no-free-will across every field, and how religious mythemes are exactly designed to depict exactly what these unseeing authors purport to bring, supposedly as an alternative to supernatural-themed religion.

This book doesn’t describe the process of initiation into no-free-will, how to formally sacrifice children’s freewill self-identity, or how to exorcise the freewill demon. The book doesn’t present an initiation practice of transformation of one’s mental model from natural animal freewill thinking to rational no-free-will thinking, and thus is inferior to the New Testament and Greek myth and mystery religion. This book asserts that we have the feeling of freewill, and ought to change our thinking to no-free-will. It is sprinkled with descriptions of arguments worded in terms of ‘fear’, ‘terror’, ‘objection’, ‘apprehension’ about loss of control; ‘exorcise’, ‘little gods’ — and yet this is claimed to be a different system than the Bible.

My work shows how mythemes in Hellenistic and Bible fiction can be interpreted and deciphered systematically as already asserting, through intelligently recognized metaphor (revealing the meaning), what this book asserts and describes in half-digested, unsystematic cherry-picking of those same metaphors: that freewill thinking needs to be “exorcised” (her term) to “purify” (I think her book uses this term) our thinking and make it consistent, that we are off-the-mark in our original thinking as if we are “little gods” (her term). This book asserts that freewill is magic and supernatural thinking — and this book assumes that metaphor-using religion disagrees. Actually, metaphor deciphering is what’s needed, as I have systematically deciphered.

Despite this book being a survey showing how many people assert no-free-will, Evatt doesn’t realize: the problem isn’t convincing more people of no-free-will; the problem at hand is to intelligently make the connections across all the fields, especially religion, myth, and the mystic state, which gives an overwhelming experience of no-free-will, rather than being limited like this book, to armchair speculation in the non-religious mode of consciousness which scholars today normally mistakenly take for granted unconsciously, as normal.

Evatt asserts half-truths constantly: she says that “we feel free will”, but that’s only conditionally true; actually we feel free will when we are in the ordinary state of consciousness, but instead we feel and even perceive no-free-will when we are in the mystic state which is the religious state of consciousness, as my work has systematically explained. This book has helped identify the specific differences between conventional no-free-will thinking within rationalist fields that assume the ordinary state of consciousness, and my transdisciplinary, multi-state theory of no-free-will.

Evatt is an example confirming that “anti-religion” rationalists have gravely inadequate (exoteric-only) notions of what religion actually asserts and amounts to, whether conventional official books on religion or books about mystic and esoteric religion — even as they pluck isolated themes from that same corpus of thinking and experiencing.

— Michael Hoffman, January 13, 2013, based on original research and idea-development since 1985
Copyright (C) 2013 Michael S. Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6287 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 14/01/2013
Subject: Re: Bks: Self illus., no-free-will, cog neuroTheol, neoPsych, no-Jes
[clarification]
Evatt is an example confirming that “anti-religion” rationalists have gravely inadequate (exoteric-only) notions of what religion actually asserts and amounts to [ — that they haven’t read the books], whether conventional official books on religion or books about mystic and esoteric religion — even as they pluck isolated themes from that same corpus of thinking and experiencing.
Group: egodeath Message: 6288 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 15/01/2013
Subject: Re: Bks: Self illus., no-free-will, cog neuroTheol, neoPsych, no-Jes
[typo correction; deleted ‘no-‘]
She references fragmented, disconnected bits and pieces of religion. She has no coherent theory of religion, but only a sub-academic, late modern-era folk model of religion and its assertions of []free-will.


Evatt titles her book “The Myth of Free Will”. Like the words uncomprehendingly uttered by Odysseus, ominous foreboding, she almost utters profound truths but without realizing it, lacking the connections; she doesn’t understand what she is almost saying: her title suggests what would be a profound title: “Myth Is About Experiencing No-Free-Will”. Myth is of (about) free will: as in, the will isn’t free; Myth is about the realization that free will is a myth. Myth describes the experiential realization that free will is a myth.

Evatt’s title is “The Myth of Free Will” and the cover shows a great illustration of the forking crossroads, she is oblivious to the sacred ground of ancient Greek myth she is treading on foolishly like Odysseus. Myth is exactly that: myth is about the experience-induced transformation from freewill thinking to no-free-will realization. The god of the crossroads. Janus and Hermes.

Extract the points, revelations, takeaways, implication from my review of the book The Myth of Free Will.

Myth is about Free Will. Her title is a grand irony, like Odysseus saying ominous words he doesn’t know the meaning of them.

Myth describes the experiential process of transformation of the mental model from the natural freewill premise (which is the original state of sin) to the rational, no-free-will realization.

— Michael Hoffman, January 14, 2013, based on original theorizing since 1985
Group: egodeath Message: 6289 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 15/01/2013
Subject: Re: Best cognitive-loosening agents & techniques
I provide a Cognitive Science approach toward term usage regarding entheogens. The word or metaphor of ‘acid’ generally means entheogen, means (as the active mechanism) a cognitive-binding loosening agent. Psycholytic chemicals, in visionary plants. A good term per the Egodeath theory is psycholytic, defined as mental-connection dissolving, or mind loosening; a cognitive loosening chemical, a chemical that loosens mental construct matrix binding, a chemical that loosens mental construct relationship matrix binding.

lysis: In the field of Biochemistry, the *dissolution* of cells, disrupting the cell membrane. Dissolve and coagulate. Some connections are broken to some degree. A few connections are slightly loosened, or all connections are completely broken. Most useful for fastest, most efficient mental model transformation is the middle zones, where some connections are partly loosened or partly broken. If too loose, cannot remember or construct the new (albeit innate in the mind’s potential) mental model of self, time, control, and possibility. If too tight, not loose enough, the alternative perception isn’t seen or felt. There is a sweet spot zone.

Cognitive association binding intensity can be divided into these 5 zones:

Too loose
Very loose but useful
Medium loose
Slightly loose, but useful
Too tight

Mental model transformation occurs by ingesting a chemical that, like an acid for cognition, loosens cognitive binding, mental construct association binding. Thus we could well describe all entheogens as ‘acid’. Anything we say about LSD can be said the same for other entheogens; therefore, we can simply write ‘acid’ whenever we might have to decide whether to write: psychedelic, entheogen, mushrooms, visionary plants, 4-HO-DiPT, Salvia, Mescaline, Peyote, DMT, or Ayahuasca. Cannabis potentiates acid, and the point is the acid effect.

“Dissolve and coagulate” in the Esotericism era is exactly analogous to the term ‘acid’ in 1960s. Why did they say “dissolve and coagulate”? Because that’s exactly what their elixir does to cognitive associations, intensely tangibly so. You dissolve, your world dissolves, your mind dissolves, your perception dissolves, your control dissolves, and then, you experience it all coagulate again back into tightcog, now bringing some % remembering what you mystically un-forgot during the peak window of the acid-dissolved cognitive state. What a coincidence it is not, ‘acid’ in 1960s and “dissolve and coagulate” in the Esotericism era of visionary-plant alchemy.

— Michael Hoffman, January 14, 2013, based on original research and idea-development since 1985
Copyright (C) 2013 Michael S. Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6290 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 15/01/2013
Subject: Re: Paul’s road conversion = Balaam’s donkey conversion
The Many Faces of Biblical Humor
David Peters
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0761839585

http://news.wustl.edu/news/Pages/13252.aspx
Book review by Tony Fitzpatrick: excerpt condensed by Michael Hoffman

“Peters’ favorite story is Balaam and the Talking Donkey. Someone [the bad king, against Israel] calls on Balaam to prophesy against the children of Israel and Moses for coming out of Egypt. God tells Balaam not to go, but he’s offered a lot of money, so he goes anyway. On the road, the donkey that he’s riding sees an angel of God with a sword [angel of death, you must die ego death to get past the flaming fire gateway, burning off your moral transient failable destructible volatile self-concept; egoic thinking can only last until the mind is exposed to loosecog, then the illusion collapses and can never be taken for reality again -mh], and the donkey stops.”

“Balaam can’t see the angel, and he beats the donkey. Farther down the road, the donkey sees the angel again and stops between two walls, crushing Balaam’s foot. There is no way getting around the angel [pre-set worldline -mh], so the donkey lies down. God enables the donkey to talk: `What did I do to make you beat me these three times? Have I ever done anything like this before?’ God enables Balaam to see the angel, and the donkey says `If I were you, I’d take better stock of the situation.’ When Balaam sees the situation for what it is, he faints.”

Balaam faints (control seizure).
His foot is crushed (the foundation of what he depends on for control-power collapses). See my posts on leg, foot, sitting, carried, riding.

— Michael Hoffman, January 14, 2013, based on theory work since 1985
Group: egodeath Message: 6291 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 15/01/2013
Subject: Re: Intellectual autobiography & origins of Egodeath theory
Corroborating what I wrote, that the Egodeath theory is the crown jewel product of the Psychedelic 80s, Ben Sessa’s British book The Psychedelic Renaissance claims that 1988 was the Second Summer of Love.
http://amazon.com/o/asin/1908995009

My work on the Egodeath theory started in 1985.
My core breakthrough was January 1988.
My project announcement party (I have the videotape showing my college friends and presentation) was Summer 1988.
My Minnesota first draft manuscript was August 1988.
By the end of 1988, my article draft and notes covered all of the core theory as reflected in my 1997 and 2006 articles.

At the start of 1988, I didn’t have the core theory, though I was very near to having it.
At the end of 1988, I had the complete core theory, and many of the mythic elements that would fully come together in November 2001.

Thus the Egodeath core theory was created and developed essentially as such, as the core theory, defining some 12 principles forming the backbone/main structure, during 1988. It had roots back to 1985 and earlier, as everything has roots. But the Theory as such, recognizable fully as the Egodeath theory, was formed during 1988. If I pick one point in time, that the Theory is a product of, it would have to be January 11, 1988, before the 2nd Summer of Love; but, the announcement party was Summer 1988. The Egodeath theory is a product of 1988.

I actually think of 1987 as the 2nd Summer of Love, because I was in the midst of the main ramp-up toward breakthrough, writing in my Red Binder, the high point of my hand writing, my idea development notes. I was listening to the new album that everyone was anticipating in Summer 1987: Sgt. Pepper was finally released! That was a really big deal. We could finally hear the album, a wormhole into Abbey Road Studios opened up and we were transported into it. I was listening to the new albums I got, pristine: Her Satanic Majesty’s Request, by the Stones; Donovan.

In 1988 I also started serious work on electric lyre equipment usage techniques, and came really close to figuring it out then, but just slightly missed making the connections, then had full breakthrough in that field in 2012.

My work from the 1980s:
January 1988 (core theory)
November 2001 (myth/history theory-extension)

— Michael Hoffman, January 14, 2013

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Group: egodeath Message: 9156 From: egodeath Date: 18/09/2016
Subject: Re: The Great Robbing and Suppressing of Psychedelics
Mushrooms vs. Meditation, getting the relationship right

Mushrooms vs. Meditation — getting the relationship right, unlike everything written in Zig Zag Zen, which is entrenched unconsciously in the assumption-set of the *Moderate* Psychedelic Theory of Religion and Culture.

The Moderate psychedelic theory of religion assumes that normal religion is non-psychedelic, and that deviant religion (religion+, enhanced religion; religion with something alien added) is psychedelic.

Abbreviations:
the Maximal psychedelic theory =
the Maximal psychedelic theory of religion and culture

the Moderate psychedelic theory =
the Moderate psychedelic theory of religion and culture

As an alternative to the divide-into-3 approach of “minimal/moderate/maximal”, it is helpful to divide into simply 2: minimal/moderate, on the one side, and maximal, on the other. Two options: diminish psychedelics (old terminology: the entheogen diminishment fallacies; implied new terminology would then be:

the psychedelics diminishment fallacies.

There is no question about it: certainly having available the term ‘entheogen’ enables more abbreviated, efficient writing THAT MIGHT TRULY BE APPROPRIATE FOR THEORIZING.

Having separate words ‘psychedelics’ and ‘entheogens’ might be dictated by the target domain being accurately modeled. Even if the chorus of demon-possessed “entheogen advocates” are now agreeing among their band of demon-scholars that they are going to push Ott off a cliff and steal his angels’ dictionary and rewrite it to insert demon-worship in the angels’ dictionary — they have agreed to mean, among themselves, when they say ‘entheogen’, they now really mean “nondrug meditation considered historically normal as per the Minimal/Moderate entheogen theory.

There is little difference between the Minimal and Moderate theories of {psychedelics in religious history}. There is great difference, which I am focusing on modelling, between the Moderate vs. Maximal theories. My fight is against, all at once, the Minimal & Moderate theories. They make the same mistakes, regardless of whether they adhere to the Minimal or Moderate views. It is not necessary to differentiate:
contrast Minimal vs. Maximal
contrast Moderate vs. Maximal

It is totally sufficient to differentiate:
contrast Minimal/Moderate vs. Maximal.

thus we can leverage powerful:

high/low. = eso/exo.

high = the Maximal Psychedelic Theory of Religion and Culture
low = the Minimal and/or Moderate Psychedelic Theory of Religion and Culture

This loses a little precision, and gains much clarity and theory power, a substantial net gain in Thagard units. I am feeling that the work of differentiating Minimal vs. Moderate is weakening the Theory, the clarity. I am standardizing on inserting my outdated ideas into a new framework prioritizing the high/low distinction.

There are 2 kinds of people, because there are 2 modes of thinking.

In the low mode of thinking, scholars assert either the Minimal or Moderate psychedelic theory of religion and culture.

The word ‘entheogen’ feels clearer than ‘psychedelic’, there, despite the demons’ shenanigans by Jesse Dunstad Hanegraaff, of falsely including meditation and the infinite list of placebo/avoidance techniques in the word ‘entheogens’:

In the low mode of thinking, scholars assert either the Minimal or Moderate entheogen theory of religion and culture.


Define every idea or domain in terms of the two ways of thinking, high vs. low.

This provides the ideal basis for criticizing and analyzing poor thinking vs. superior thinking.

According to the exoteric view:
meditation (silently assumed nondrug) is the authority, the point of reference
mushrooms added, is a deviation, or an enhancement added to the normal genuine meditation, which is nondrug

According to the esoteric view:
mushrooms are the authority point of reference
meditation can be added to that, and can be done without the mushroom state, but meditation doesn’t trigger loose cognitive binding and widespread mental transformation.


According to the exoteric view:
Meditation, with Mushrooms added

According to the esoteric view:
Nondrug meditation is Meditation done outside the Mushroom cognitive state.
Mushrooms, with Meditation added


‘cognitive’ vs. ‘mental’: not simply synonyms, nor is ‘cognitive’ merely posturing scientism-speak for ‘mental’. mental construct processing, is not same as analyzing the mind and experiencing in terms of “thinking”.

My concept of mental construct processing (from 4/87) is designed to cover not only thinking, but everythink in awareness.

‘entheogens’ vs. ‘psychedelics’.

The story of reality according to the exoteric view:

The story of reality according to the esoteric view:

‘exo’ means outer. ‘eso’ means inner.

There is nothing special about the labels ‘exo’ and ‘eso’, and there must be better terms; these terms come from outside the Egodeath theory.

When did I first start emphasizing as an organizing scheme, “the two ways of thinking”?

Since 1986: egoic thinking vs. transcendent thinking.

That naturally later around 2000 mapped onto Freke & Gandy’s The Jesus Mysteries’ use of ‘exoteric’ vs. ‘esoteric’, which pointed back to Pagels’ use of ‘Orthodox vs. Gnostic’.

egoic thinking ~= exoteric ~= Orthodox
transcendent thinking ~= esoteric ~= Gnostic

I picked recently the characterizing contrast “high vs. low” instead of “inner vs. outer”, because I wanted to more clearly disparage the “regular” nondrug version of each field, and more clearly “elevate” ie advocate, the psychedelic version of each field.

When I write “psychedelic”, I generally don’t mean a surface styling, but far more hardcore I mean thoroughly based in the cognitive (experiential + mental) state that specifically and literally results from ingesting psychedelic drug chemicals such as acid and shrooms.

Each field has its low and high version.

Each topic has two versions:
genuine/real/authentic/durable/ high/invincible/source
vs.
pseudo/ersatz/fake/imitation/ counterfeit/vulnerable/low/ inauthentic/bunk/derivative

Each topic has its low and high understanding.

Each topic has its nondrug conceptualization and its psilocybin-based conceptualization. low = nondrug (non-psychedelics informed).

high = informed by intense psychotomimetic psychedelic drug chemicals (psilocybin and LSD), which is how the the intense mystic altered state is induced throughout our religion’s history.

“real vs. pseudo” is useful.
real/eso/high/psychedelic
pseudo/exo/low/nonpsychedelic

Instead of speaking in euphemisms and downplaying — as I did 1988-1997 — the drug aspect, I maximally emphatically emphasize and highlight chemicals, the strictly chemical-ingestion basis of our religion, of esotericism, of accessing the intense mystic altered state.

For those who try to downplay and turn away from this the source of the mystic state, that the source of the mystic state is not something other than psychoactive drug chemicals, I am forcefully blocking that escape with maximum forcefulness, maximum emphasis.

THIS IS THE METAL WAY: Don’t try to turn down the forcefulness; *turn up* the forcefulness. Crank the amp to 11.

I destroy adherence to low Christianity, and I make available high Christianity.

I destroy adherence to low religion, and make available high Religion.

I destroy adherence to low science, and make available high Science.

By igniting as mushroid the Eucharist and mixed wine throughout Christian and Greek culture, I am not destroying religion, science, academia, I am killing adherence to low religion, low science, low academia, and making available high religion, high science, high academia.


DOMAIN DYNAMICS

A long-term historical unclarity is what was my 1987 understanding of my idea of Domain Dynamics?

The idea of Domain Dynamics was a sizeable part of my April 1987 breakthrough in idea development technique.

The major parts of my breakthrough April 1987 idea development technique:

mental construct processing
acronyms
domain dynamics

The idea of Domain Dynamics didn’t play an explicit central part in my history of idea development.

Meditation (with Mushrooms added)

It’s not that there’s meditation, and then there’s meditation enhanced by psilocybin.

Rather, there is pseudo-meditation, and then there’s actual normal real meditation, which is *not* meditation with psilocybin added, but rather, tripping on psilocybin, with meditation added as an activity to do while in the psilocybin loose cognitive association binding state.

Meditation is an activity to do while in the psilocybin-induced loosecog state.
Not adding psilocybin to meditation; rather, adding meditation to psilocybin.

Meditation with Psilocybin added
Psilocybin with Meditation added

Delusion about strict critical historiography says:
There was meditation, and
sometimes Mushrooms were added to Meditation.

Enlightenment about strict critical historiography says:
There was use of Mushrooms, and
sometimes Meditation was done during Mushrooms.
Meditation was sometimes done without the Mushrooms that gave rise to the activity of Meditation.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9158 From: egodeath Date: 18/09/2016
Subject: Re: The Great Robbing and Suppressing of Psychedelics
‘contemplation’ (vs. ‘meditation’) is correct term for *Western* bullsh-t ersatz substitute inauthentic pseudo-religion.

Typo correction, per nonsense spewed by confabulations of the Western Esotericism writers, since I’m destroying exoteric esotericism to make available esoteric esotericism, I’m supposed to write ‘contemplation’ as a euphemism for ‘meditation’.

In everything I ever posted about Western Esotericism, change ‘meditation’ to ‘contemplation’.

Per the principle of Parity of Eastern bulsh*t pseudo-religion and Western bullsh*t pseudo-religion.

Bullsh*t = low/exoteric/apologist/Western priest scandals/ Eastern priest scandals

authentic = high/esoteric/psychedelic = Maximal psychedelic theory of religion
inauthentic = low/exoteric/nondrug (nonpsychedelic) = Minimal and Moderate psychedelic theories of religion

Crooks, priests, gurus, scandals, it’s all the same sh-t, the same low, ersatz, substitute, egoic, Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism, Minimal/Moderate Psychedelic Theory of Religion and Culture.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9159 From: egodeath Date: 18/09/2016
Subject: The Minimal vs. Maximal psychedelic models of religion
The Minimal vs. Maximal psychedelic models of religion

The Minimal vs. Maximal psychedelic models of religion and culture

Not developed in this post, but suggested by the clearer pattern I’ve gained:
the Meditation vs. Mushroom models of religion
the Meditation vs. Mushroom models of religion and culture

the Exoteric vs. Esoteric models of religion
the Low vs. High models of religion

Terminology for refactoring “Minimal/Moderate/Maximal psychedelic theories of religion” into a simple contrast-pair:

the Minimal psychedelic model of religion
the Maximal psychedelic model of religion

The distinction between Minimal vs. Moderate (psychedelic theories of religion) wasn’t pulling its weight.

There is negligible difference between “Minimal” vs. “Moderate”; the two are hard to differentiate, producing little gain in explanatory power.

The mind begins with the worldmodel Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism worldmodel, including the Minimal psychedelic model of religion.

The mind then goes through a series of mushroom sessions (with redosing in each session), which is not instantaneous.


From age 0 to 16, the mind adheres to the Minimal psychedelic theory of religion, and to Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism overall.

From age 16 to 18, the mind transforms from the Minimal to Maximal psychedelic theory of religion, and transforms from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism.

From age 18 to 80, the mind adheres to the Maximal psychedelic theory of religion, and to Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism overall.


Changing only the hypothetical initiation age: 13, 16, 18, or 21.

Changing the duration of furnace transformation: with the Egodeath theory in hand, this can be instantaneous overnight transformation, from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism.

Given the Egodeath theory in hand, in this region of the frozen unchanging preexisting spacetime communication block, a semester suffices, even a year is much longer than needed.

My Egodeath theory is so powerful, that I claim the mind is capable of transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism in just 1 semester; 2 quarters of freshman university courses.

In a single university undergrad course, the mind now — because the Egodeath theory is so ergonomic — can change from Possibilism to Eternalism in just 1 college quarter.

Mapping to old terminology/divisions:

new term =
old term(s)

the Minimal psychedelic model of religion =
the Minimal entheogen theory of religion +
the Moderate entheogen theory of religion +

the Maximal psychedelic model of religion =
the Maximal entheogen theory of religion

Exoteric scholars adhere to the Minimal psychedelic model of religion.
Esoteric scholars adhere to the Maximal psychedelic model of religion.

Low scholars adhere to the Minimal psychedelic model of religion.
High scholars adhere to the Maximal psychedelic model of religion.

Follow the theorists’ holy guiding star of extremism. Winnow, divide rightly the scriptures.

There are two opposed views:
low/high
exoteric/esoteric
Minimal vs. Maximal Psychedelic Model of Religion and Culture
Minimal/Maximal

According to the
I’m going with this idea and need acro’s/shortcuts.

the Minimal Psychedelic Model of Religion and Culture
the Maximal Psychedelic Model of Religion and Culture

the Minimal Psychedelic Model of Religion
the Maximal Psychedelic Model of Religion

the Minimal psychedelic model
the Maximal psychedelic model

mnpmr: the Minimal psychedelic model of religion
mxpmr: the Maximal psychedelic model of religion

Defining an acronym = reworking the concept labels/modules.

Testing the acro’s/shortcuts:

Low thinkers, stupid people (noninitiates; those on the outside) have the Minimal psychedelic model of religion.

High thinkers, smart people (initiates; those on the inside) have the Maximal psychedelic model of religion.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9160 From: egodeath Date: 18/09/2016
Subject: Re: The Minimal vs. Maximal psychedelic models of religion
My new phrases strangely, awkwardly put totally drug-free religion scholars into the same category as all the hardcore pop psychedelics advocates:

What does McKenna have in common with totally drug-free academic schoalrs of religion? They both disagree with my theory, which is the Maximal psychedelic model of religion.

Against McKenna I say “No, McKenna, you are the opposite of the truth! You say __ but I say the opposite, __.”

McKenna says Christianity didn’t understand or recognize or utilize Eucharist = psychedelics.

McKenna asserts the Minimal psychedelic model of religion.
According to this view, psychedelics have only a slight and deviant and exceptional role in [our] religious history.

Hoffman asserts the Maximal psychedelic model of religion.
According to this view, psychedelics have the central, originary role in [our] religious history.

Advocates of Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism, which inherently includes the Minimal psychedelic model of religion:
McKenna, Leary, Grof, Ruck, Rush

Advocates of Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism, which inherently includes the Maximal psychedelic model of religion:
Hoffman

I can see why I formed the complicated 3-slot scheme, of Minimal/Moderate/Maximal entheogen theory of religion and culture: to put entheogen scholars into a separate slot from establishment nondrug scholars.

It’s awkward to shove the two (McKenna and staid academics) to the left end of a polar dyad spectrum:
either you are thinking at this extreme end of the spectrum
(psychedelic drugs are deviant and exceptional in religion)
or
you are thinking at the other extreme end of the spectrum
(psychedelic drugs are normal and the source of religion, the authoritative point of reference).

So my first analysis will be contrasting Minimal (including Moderate) vs. Maximal,
my second more detailed level of analysis subdivides “Minimal” into Minimal (staid academics) and Moderate (McKenna).

Robert Graves, James Arthur, and John Allegro feel closer to my Maximal position than McKenna and Leary.

Robert Graves told R. Gordon Wasson the Maximal psychedelic model of religion.

Wasson sold out by publically only asserting the Moderate psychedelic model of religion.

There are two kinds of psychedelics scholars: Moderate and Maximal. If you are a psychedelics scholar, you are not a Minimal advocate (per the 3-slot system), but are either Moderate (Wasson) or Maximal (Allegro).

With regard to psychedelics in shamanism, Eliade was __.

With regard to psychedelics in Christianity, Wasson was Minimal.

The trajectory of views changing now from Minimal, to Moderate, to Maximal:

In 1970 in academia:
With regards to psychedelics in primitives’ religion, academics asserted the Minimal psychedelic model of religion.
With regards to psychedelics in our own, “World Religions”, academics assert the Minimal psychedelic model of religion.

In 2016 in academia:
With regards to psychedelics in primitives’ religion, academics assert the Moderate psychedelic model of religion.
With regards to psychedelics in our own, “World Religions”, academics assert the Minimal psychedelic model of religion.

In 2020 in academia:
With regards to psychedelics in primitives’ religion, academics will assert the Maximal psychedelic model of religion.
With regards to psychedelics in our own, “World Religions”, academics will assert the Moderate psychedelic model of religion.

In 2024 in academia:
With regards to psychedelics in primitives’ religion, academics will assert the Maximal psychedelic model of religion.
With regards to psychedelics in our own, “World Religions”, academics will assert the Maximal psychedelic model of religion.

Appreciate the Egodeath theory now — beat the rush.
Skip straight to the endpoint view.


Moderate psychedelic model of religion: Schultes, McKenna, Wasson, Leary, Letcher, pre-conversion Hatsis — THESE ARE DRUG SCHOLARS WHO DENY THE MUSHROOM EUCHARIST.

Maximal psychedelic model of religion: Michael Hoffman, Robert Graves, James Arthur, John Allegro — these are drug scholars who assert that the Eucharist was recognized and understood as mushrooms throughout Christian history.

The relevant key important critical litmus test: how do you answer the Michael Hoffman question:

To what extent was the Eucharist recognized as mushrooms?

The Minimal psychedelic model of religion asserts “Not.”
Schultes, McKenna, Wasson, Leary, Letcher, pre-conversion Hatsis, Hanegraaff.

The Maximal psychedelic model of religion asserts “Normally.”
Michael Hoffman, Robert Graves, James Arthur, John Allegro, Clark Heinrich.

Fact-checking citations are in order to fine-tune eg. did M. Hoffman’s Entheos magazine assert my Maximal view? It wavers.

Entheos is transitional between the old Minimal/Moderate view and my new, Maximal view — like Ruck wavers, asserting the Moderate view, yet putting forth such copious evidence that it instead *implies* my Maximal view.

Actually these people would fall across a spectrum, possibly clustered around Minimal and Maximal.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9161 From: egodeath Date: 18/09/2016
Subject: Re: The Minimal vs. Maximal psychedelic models of religion
1950: As an academic scholar spewing apologetics for Establishment Prohibition Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism, you write nothing about psychedelics in religion. There are no psychedelics in religion.

_____________________________

1950: You assert that
primitives/others/deviants didn’t use psychedelics in religion.
World Religions didn’t use psychedelics in religion.

1970: Then you assert that
primitives/others/deviants used psychedelics in religion a little,
but not in World Religions.

1990: Then you assert that
primitives used psychedelics in religion a lot, but
barely at all in World Religions.

2000: Then you assert that
primitives used psychedelics in religion a lot, and that
our World Religions used psychedelics a little.

2010: Then you assert that
primitives used psychedelics in religion a lot, and that
our World Religions recognized and used psychedelics to a moderate extent.

2020: Then you assert that
primitives recognized and used psychedelics in religion a lot, and that
our World Religions recognized and used psychedelics a lot.

_________________________________________

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com, spewing forth strict critical historiography — that’s a joke usage of a phrase, mocking Hanegraaff’s clueless Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism.

Hanegraaff proposes to do “strict critical historiography” while ignorant of Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism. Guaranteed trainwreck. No hope of accurate historiography. Instead:

Do strict critical historiography while applying the crucial explanatory framework: gnosis of Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism.

Strict critical historiography must inform Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism (gnosis), and Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism (gnosis) must inform strict critical historiography.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9162 From: egodeath Date: 18/09/2016
Subject: Re: The Great Robbing and Suppressing of Psychedelics
Correction:

For those who try to downplay and turn away from this the source of the mystic state, who assert that the source of the mystic state is something other than psychoactive drug chemicals, I am forcefully blocking that escape with maximum forcefulness, maximum emphasis.
Group: egodeath Message: 9163 From: egodeath Date: 18/09/2016
Subject: Re: The Great Robbing and Suppressing of Psychedelics
Would you rather buy
the snake-oil that the Western fake religious authority is selling, or
the snake-oil that the Eastern fake religious authority is selling?

The only true religious authority is psilocybin.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9164 From: egodeath Date: 18/09/2016
Subject: Re: The Great Robbing and Suppressing of Psychedelics
Letcher Hatsis and other readers of the psychedelic gospels are not yet converting from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism; he is at first only converting from the Minimal psychedelic model of religion to the Maximal psychedelic model of religion.

At most, that’s 1/3 of my apocalypse.

Readers of the psychedelic gospels have only advanced from
Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism
to
Literalist Psychedelic Possibilism,
not yet converted all the way to my full revelation of gnosis,
Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9165 From: egodeath Date: 18/09/2016
Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
Imagine if these 3 revolution parties got together to form an alliance:

Literalist –> Metaphorical [historicity of Jesus –> ahistoricity]

Ordinary-state –> Psychedelic [entheogen scholarship]

Possibilism –> Eternalism [hyper-hyper-Calvinism, PhilOTime, certain QM authors favorable to Einstein/Minkowski/Parmenides/rock spacetime]


That’s the Egodeath Theory revolutionary apocalypse: from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism.

A thoroughgoing conceptual revolution that integrates multiple ordinary-scale “revolutionary” theories.

The Egodeath theory is multi-revolutionary, mega-revolutionary.

Revealing Eucharist mixed wine as recognized as mushrooms, sets off the revelation signal network spread throughout the frozen spacetime block, producing the presence of world conflagration in particular regions of the spacetime rock.

In these regions of spacetimecommunication, of infospacetime, Michael ignites the beacon torches, which are all the instances of Eucharist and mixed wine, or all instances of recognizing Eucharist as mushrooms and all instances of recognizing mixed wine as mushrooms.

Greek + Bible contains this network of beacon torches embedded throughout our own culture.

How to take down the entire System of Establishment Delusion at once?

Michael Apollo ignites the beacon torches revealing Eucharist and mixed wine as mushrooms.

Dragon vanquished, nonbranching laurel branch crown, gate opens to those on the inside, into the mushroom redosing religious banquet party in the presence of God at the tree of life at the end of time experience distributed throughout the spacetime rock. Revelation is a matter of communication of information, communicating across space (Internet) and forward through time.

I write for others far away in space, or far away in both space and time but only the future, and only where my communication is preexistingly transmitted, my gospel transmission is a broadcast received by select few chosen to hear it.

Cybernetics is communication for control.

I transmit information revealing the basis of personal control-thinking.

I transmit (for communicating across space) and store information (for communicating to the future, across time but in one direction only) revealing the basis of personal control-thinking.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9166 From: egodeath Date: 19/09/2016
Subject: Power of Ideas: Esotericism, Historicism (Hanegraaff)
Power of Ideas: Esotericism, Historicism (Hanegraaff)

Article:
The Power of Ideas: Esotericism, Historicism, and the Limits of Discourse
Wouter Hanegraaff
April 2013
https://uva.academia.edu/WouterHanegraaff

Wouter Hanegraaff has asserted vehemently that we should avoid gnosis.

Hanegraaff has been inconsistent and hard to pin down, in his rants against dread Religionism.

The devil for Hanegraaff is Religionism.

(The devil for the Egodeath theory is meditation.

And defining ‘ego transcendence’ as nondual consciousness through nondrug meditation, per 1988 Journal of Transpersonal Psychology & early Ken Wilber.)

Hanegraaff is inconsistent as hell in defining his demon, ‘religionism’, and sometimes he equates Religionism with gnosis.

Wouter Hanegraaff writes on every page of his books and articles some variant of:

If you value gnosis, you are a Religionist.

Scholars of Western esotericism should be against gnosis.

Religionism is the worst impediment to strict critical historiography.


I and others have accused Wouter Hanegraaff of asserting that we should avoid gnosis. We accused Hanegraaff of being foolishly against the following:

Pages 267-268: paraphrased:

Hanegraaff defensively asserts that he *does* support the following:
________________________________

We should search for general or universal patterns in the study of religion.

We should do comparative research.

We should identify predicable, law-like mental processes in religious esoteric pursuits.

We should study ecstatic states of consciousness; we should apply neurobiology and cognitive studies to radical ecstatic trance *states* that are frequently reported in the search for gnosis.

________________________________

Hanegraaff continues on to clarify aspects of his position:

The Religionist school asserts that ‘Western esotericism’ is a candidate for what is universal in the study of religion. (Hanegraaff disagrees, but doesn’t here say what would be universal — such as Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism.)

Strict critical historiography doesn’t lead to complete atomism.

Western esotericism comes from pagan Hellenism throughout Christian culture.

________________________________

/Hanegraaff paraphrase

Hanegraaff has done a poor, inconsistent job of defining the positions he’s critiquing.

In this two-way article exchange, he’s having to invent additional categories that he never defined before.

Hanegraaff is ineffective at defining a useful set of positions.

Hanegraaff has more work to do to define what the ideal position would be, that is capable of incorporating his call to study the entire evidence and not just pluck supporting cases from it and ignore the rest.

Hanegraaff must define the position that affirms universal gnosis *and* accurate historical details.

Not “strict critical historiography” *at the expense of *universal gnosis theory*, which is the Egodeath theory, which is, better than Campbell’s journey, description of transformation from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism.

Poor theorists (Letcher Hatsis) are poor and inconsistent at defining positions to critique.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9169 From: egodeath Date: 19/09/2016
Subject: Re: Power of Ideas: Esotericism, Historicism (Hanegraaff)
Every one of the “world religions” — and the deviant “pseudo religions” — have an esoteric version; that is, it is possible to ignore all the worthless junk in religious history, and pluck out just the following (transformation to Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism), crowning it, and dismissing the rest as folly that’s unworthy of scientific Egodeath theory research.

Hanegraaff, pass me that wastebasket you dumped out. But I will need an entire junkyard, to fit all the dross.

Yes, we should trace the detail development of every religion and pseudoreligion but when we do that, we should winnow and recognize the wheat and chaff.

Or skip the whole bothersome historical research and just pluck out timeless, culture-independent gnosis, which is, I reveal, Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism.

We can just abstract-out Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism and toss the rest of Western esotericism back into the wastebasket.

I’m a successful religionist, in this sense.

I have succeeded at that project Hanegraaff demonizes, in his ever-changing definition of ‘religionism’.

But I brought the succcessful identification of what gnosis is, from the Engineering department *into* the Western esotericism department, already productized.

I did not figure out what enlightenment is (Transcendent Knowledge; transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism) by extracting it from Western esotericism.

I used Western esotericism and religious mythology merely to *confirm* my finished Core theory essentially from the Engineering department.

I used the ‘eclectic’ approach Hanegraaff is against.

I also used strict critical historiography.

There’s lots of controversy around Hanegraaff. He’s unclear. An academic can be useful to shallow careerists by being vague, prevaricating.

Now we with no inspiration can set up shop cranking out rote formulaic articles “What does Hanegraaff really mean by strict critical historiography?”, “What does Hanegraaff really mean by Religionism?”

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9171 From: egodeath Date: 19/09/2016
Subject: Re: Power of Ideas: Esotericism, Historicism (Hanegraaff)
Wouter Hanegraaff is a Katzian; a Contextualist, not an Essentialist, regarding purportedly universal mystic wisdom.

Hanegraaff, Katz, and other Contextualists don’t believe in universal zen satori found in Christianity and in the veiled sciences and in ancient gnosis/wisdom.

There is a fundamental disagreement here, even if Hanegraaff pretends to concede that we should look for universals in esotericism.

I believe in universal zen satori enlightenment gnosis wisdom Transcendent Knowledge — many people do — we are Essentialists, the Essentialist school.

Hanegraaff sides with Steven Katz, who asserts that there is no common universal mystic state. They are the Contextualist school.

Katz is behind the times, not hip to the dissolve and coagulate trip.

The Egodeath theory says there is a common universal mystic state and thing revealed by that state.

The mind innately begins with Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism, then through multiple sessions of redosing mushrooms, the mind innately ends with Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism.

This universal cognitive shift is a matter of Loose Cognitive Science, not culture.

Katz is wrong; he overstates Contexualism and throws away Essentialism, but truth is balanced as:

unimportant Contextualism as the surface UI skin, wrapping…
the important payload of Essentialism.

So to speak, Essentialism is the payload, Contextualism is the exoteric packaging.

And that’s what — as Hanegraaff states — the esotericists and religionists assert, that the changing aspect is the surface aspect, and underneath is unchanging satori/revelation/uncovering/enlightenment/salvation/regeneration/gnosis/wisdom.

_____________________________________
Contextualism says “That’s culturally dismissive and not respecting diversity.”

Contextualism says there’s *not* a universal unchanging gnosis, there’s not a rigid trellis hidden underneath this jungle overgrowth.

There’s only the surface, which varies per culture, and mysticism A is truly different than mysticism B.

When we trace detailed accurate strict critical historiography, the changes we are studying ARE esotericism, they ARE the esoteric experiencing, which changes over time and across place.

_____________________________________
Essential Essentialism per the Egodeath theory:

I speak for all esotericists, religionists, gnostics, mystics, mushroom zennists, when the Egodeath theory declares:

The common aspect of the intense mystic altered state that is experienced by all shamans, all zennists, all Esotericists, all Christ’s inner circle, is:

Experiential transformation from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism, in the loose cognitive association state, which is induced by psilocybin mushrooms.

All brands of authentic religion are surface descriptions of this, and the aspects that don’t match across comparative High religion are the nonessential aspects, the dross — such as arbitrary differences in which analogy-set is used.

Religion A experiences Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism using analogy-set A.

Religion B experiences Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism using analogy-set B.

Therefore — in a way that makes relatively little difference, the experience of mystic A and B differ, in that they both experience Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism, but
A experiences Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism via analogy-set A, while
B experiences Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism via analogy-set B.

There is a difference, in surface branding, as important as the difference between the songs No One at the Bridge, Red Barchetta, and Cygnus X-1.

Different surface domain, same referent domain.

The Egodeath theory not only shows what’s the same for all mystics, it also identifies what’s different — where the dividing line is, what is eso and exo.

The song Red Barchetta describes Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism using the encoding-domain of cars.

The song Cygnus X-1 describes Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism using the encoding-domain of black hole spacecraft.

The song No One at the Bridge describes Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism using the encoding-domain of steering a sailing ship.

How important is it to track the surface details contrasting between these 3 songs? Superficial, shallow, low, outer, exoteric.

Hanegraff admitted strict critical historiography ain’t gonna grasp the esoteric aspect of Western esotericism!

Wouter Hanegraff is advocating exoteric esotericism! Hanegraaff’s strict critical historiography = advocacy of exoteric esotericism.

That is “the Katz limitation” on the power and relevance of Hanegraaff’s approach; the folly and fatal limitation of Katz’s Contextualism position (vs. Essentialism).

The most that you can achieve with strict critical historiography is exoteric esotericism — the history of the development of the nonessential, variable surface branding.

You take Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism and say:

“Let’s write a new song, this time mapping the surface domain of “girls” with the profound referent of Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism, instead of mapping “spaceship black hole” onto that profound referent.”

What does Hanegraaff, the strictly exoteric esotericist, see on his radar? “The band changed from a song about spaceship black hole, to a song about girls.”

The real referent (gnosis = satori = revelation = salvation = enlightenment = Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism) slips through this radar, of “strict critical historiography”.

What an embarrassment, travesty. If this is scholarship, then commit it to the flames.

Hanegraaff gives us the accurate strict critical history of sawdust, of bubble wrap, with no payload.

How important is it to identify and recognize the common referent concern domain as Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism? Deep, profound, high, inner, esoteric.


Exoteric thinking (folly) says religions are different.

Esoteric thinking (wisdom) says, we perceive the profound way in which religions are the same: it’s Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism, with merely different surface analogy-sets describing that.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9173 From: egodeath Date: 19/09/2016
Subject: Enlightenment = Permanent Psychosis
Enlightenment = Permanent Psychosis

In the snake-guarded tree-orchard garden in paradise, upon reading the Egodeath theory,
1/4 of readers suffered ego death.
1/4 went psychotomimetic.
1/4 cut all the branches off the trees.
1/4 entered the Theory in peace and left in peace.

The Four Who Entered Paradise
http://www.alteredfluid.com/2015/09/18/36-days-of-judaic-myth-day-11-the-four-who-entered-paradise/

http://google.com/search?q=four+entered+pardes
http://google.com/search?q=four+entered+paradise
http://google.com/search?q=four+entered+garden
http://google.com/search?q=four+entered+orchard

— Professor Loosecog, head exorcist, University of Transcendent Knowledge
Group: egodeath Message: 9174 From: egodeath Date: 19/09/2016
Subject: Hanegraaff’s Academic Suicide
Hanegraaff’s _Academic Suicide_

Wouter Hanegraaff joins Robert Price in committing Academic Suicide by un-critically siding with agent Wasson against John Allegro’s assertion of mushrooms in Christianity.

What happened? How could Hanegraaff have made such a fatal misjudgment? How did he handle the fallout? What happened with Hanegraaff afterwards? The story ends with a rather painful account of intellectual and moral decline.

http://wouterjhanegraaff.blogspot.com/2012/09/missed-opportunities.html?m=1

Hanegraaff unimaginatively parrots the usual secondhand sub-scholarly rubbish against Allegro, and Irvin sets him straight, at length, catching Hanegraaff in an embarrassing total failure of elementary scholarship, just as I caught the supposedly “radical critical scholar” Robert Price writing in the original version of his review of Acharya’s Christ Conspiracy, where Price carelessly and un-critically dismissed Acharya’s favorable mention of the mushroom Christianity theory (with Price botching every aspect).

Allegro (mushrooms in Christianity) brings out the worst in scholars, including Price and Hanegraaff.

Thus saith Irvin to Hanegraaff:

“A debate will go very poorly for you regarding John Allegro.”

If you write against visionary plants — mushrooms in Christianity — without reading the scholarship, it will not go well; it will go very poorly for you.

Hanegraaff incoherently accuses Allegro of getting his ideas (asserting mushrooms in Christianity) from Wasson.

Wasson denied (covered-up), not asserted, mushrooms in Christianity.

I haven’t seen such as botched commentary by a shockingly *uncritical* advocate of critical historiography, since Price’s botched dismissal of Allegro, using Wasson.

Price: “I run the Journal of Higher Criticism.”

Hanegraaff: “I demonize religionism and advocate critical historiography.”

Establishment-compliant scholars’ “critical” scholarship stops precisely where mushrooms in Christianity begins, vanishing like egoic Possibilism, the phantom demon, the moment our own religion is joined to psychedelic mushrooms.


Irvin wrote:
“Wasson published almost nothing on mushrooms in Judeo-Christianity, and in fact attacked any and every scholar who attempted to investigate the matter, and set up a fallacious argument to prevent scholars from looking, which apparently you bought.”

“your reply only further emphasizes your poor research on the matter, and your willingness to bring up irrelevant data to defend it.
May I recommend you get yourself current with the research so that you understand what you’re getting yourself entangled in?
If you’re going to attempt to enter the field of ethnomycology, then it helps to be current on the subjects and researches and not repeat disproved lies, as it reveals a lack of competence and inability to check primary documentation.
A debate will go very poorly for you regarding John Allegro.
You may be the great Dr. Hanegraaff, but if you’re incapable of primary research and keeping current, it means absolutely nothing. I could provide you hundreds of facts and citations, but it seems clear that you’ve already made up your mind and are only here to defend what someone else told you to believe, rather than checking it yourself…”

— Irvin


Robert Price similarly brushed aside Allegro and Acharya, by invoking the magic name Wasson, while suspending the critical thinking that he has the audacity to lecture others on.

Strict critical historiography points straight to mushrooms as the Eucharist.

Want to see a major, tireless advocate of “critical” scholarship hypocritically instantly drop their “critical” mentality like a hot potato?

Point out the mushroom Eucharist.


Wouter Hanegraaff vehemently advocates strict hypocritical historiography.

Robert Price advocates Radical Higher Hypocritism.


Price’s review of Acharya was an embarrassment (regarding Allegro being supposedly disproved by Wasson), filled with grade-school errors, the exact opposite of elementary scholarship, never mind “radical critical” scholarship.

Then Price directed me in writing the Plaincourault article setting straight, at full length, the abortive non-debate between Allegro and Wasson.


The worst scholars strive to disassociate the Eucharist from mushrooms, asserting that no one ever understood the Eucharist as mushrooms, and that for thousands of years, across thousands of miles, no psilocybin mushrooms grew in Europe, and there are no mushrooms in Christianity.
E. Panofsky, agent Wasson, A. Letcher (aka T. Hatsis), T. McKenna.

C. Ruck hovers in-between in a blurry quantum indeterminate state:
Everyone universally knew that the Eucharist is mushrooms, but no one really knew about it.

The best scholars strive to associate the Eucharist with mushrooms, asserting that everyone on the inside always understood the Eucharist as mushrooms.
R. Graves, J. Allegro, J. Arthur, C. Heinrich, M. Hoffman, M. Hoffman.

At Hanegraaff’s academic suicide posting, a researcher posted anonymously

“Christianity cannot have stemmed from a mushroom cult. First, because no “Magic Mushrooms” worth the name grow in the parts where Christianity started, and that’s counting the Greek world, the Roman world, etc. Amanita Muscaria was only used in remote Siberia, but even then, it was not really traditional. “Intoxication by mushrooms also produces contacts with the spirits, but in a passive and crude way. This technique appears to be late and derivative. Intoxication is a mechanical and corrupt method of producing “ecstasy”, being “carried out of oneself”. It tries to imitate a model that is earlier and that belongs to another plane of reference.” (Mircea Eliade about the Siberians, Archaic Techniques of Ecstasy, 1951)”

Eliade and Panofsky said it, I believe it, that settles it.

In 7th Grade, at age 12, I drew a color, poster-sized map of trade routes in Mediterranean antiquity.

This research was the basis for my breakthroughs of strict critical historiography and higher radical criticism in 2001 and 2013, recognizing world religious mythology as analogy describing psychedelics revealing Eternalism/noncontrol.

Which explanatory theory better explains the problems and evidence we face (or turn our face away from)?

Even if imperfectly, leaving questions without yet a satisfactory answer.

Problematic data to be explained, that doesn’t fit the Old Theory, that requires a New Theory: the psychedelic gospels written by andro-gyne Brown.

Is Brown a man, or woman; Hermes or Aphrodite? Both!

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9177 From: egodeath Date: 20/09/2016
Subject: Re: Enlightenment = Permanent Psychosis
The large portion of readers who go insane reading the Egodeath theory always turns into a nuisance, just as advanced trippers who have reached the initial false peak, the nonduality delusion, turn into a nuisance for the new science studies of underdosing beginners so they have a flush of beginners’ unity delusion, but Mr. Hopkins kicks these children out when they start turning to look up and behind the mask to see the snake and panic climax desire for control power death demonstration and worldmodel conflagration.

We weren’t expecting to summon and invoke Religion and we really can’t deal with it.

We don’t have a magic protection circle, except the Eternalism rock with debranched tree king crowned with nonbranching vine.

So we in the Psychedelic RENAISSANCE of the occult sciences of ancient pagan Hellenism gnosis wisdom veiled sciences of analogy, we modern rational opposites of Western esotericism irrationalist hoodoo, we limit our research to fresh virgin minds, underdosed, to get the Foolish and Happy portion of the mushroom transformation.

And throw away the Wise and Transformative portion of the mushroom transformation, the chaff.

The last time a rabbi went into that inner chamber, he was no longer a psychedelic virgin, so we had to tie a long rope around his leg in case God killed him in there so we could safely pull him back out.

We only let beginners go in there to the inner chamber where the manna is covered, and even then we underdose them, in Professor Nutt’s Psychedelic Neurophrenology, which is the source of many new science studies in the Psychedelic Renaissance of the occult sciences of ancient psychedelic wisdom.

The fool begins the journey to psychotomimetic wisdom of adult climax control attractor capability, the Teacher of Climactic Righteousness would love to turn you sacred world coming in this region of the non-meta-changing cyberspacetime block.

A third of people who read my Egodeath theory go insane, permanent psychosis, and then when they post, it’s word salad, with poor, low, shallow, outer signal/noise ratio, and I have to do even more heavy lifting than when it’s just me alone writing my superior word salad with rich, high, deep, inner signal noise ratio.

A third of people who read my Egodeath theory go insane, permanent psychosis, exactly as the authors reported in the new science study/psychonauts’ guidebook, _Psilocybin as an Inducer of Ego Death_.

Psilocybin as an Inducer of Ego Death and Similar Experiences of Religious Provenance
Katarzyna Stebelska and Krzysztof Labuz
http://google.com/search?q=%22Psilocybin+as+an+Inducer+of+Ego+Death%22

If you are attempting to have religious self-control seizure climax, but you screwed up and the snake that God created for your life doesn’t include taking a sufficient dose, read this inventory of all the kinds of bad things that any researcher or study has ever mentioned could happen involving psilocybin in any way.

A ton of psilocybin could fall on you from a rooftop.

That’s the only potential harm that these counter-researchers overlooked, in their article designed to counter Jennifer Lyke.

I like, like Lyke.

It’s like, these science researchers in this new science study, like, don’t like Lyke, because Lyke likes psilocybin like Martin Ball likes 5meow.

I like how the liking of psilocybin by beginner researchers in the Cognitive Science lab leads to like maximum freakout in Phase 2 of the psilocybin initiation mental transformation process, when Johns Hopkins discards you for fresh Mind for him to use, back in the beginner nondual delusion phase of Campbell’s Psychedelic Hero Trip.

In Phase 2 of the series of mushroom-redosing sessions, the intellect discovers the attractive control-climax eros thanatos drive, the attractive horror of seeing and experiencing the Eternalism snake worldline embedded in Minkowski’s spacetime rock.

Evil Professor Tightcog to the rescue! QM proves freewill and open-future possibility branching.

Snake = Eternalism = Einstein, Relativity, Minkowski, Parmenides, the fewer (because a subset, of developmentally advanced)

Tree = Possibilism = Bohr, QM, Official Doctrine, the multiverse, string theory, the mass of noninitiates.

Everyone starts out as a Possibilism-thinker, and many flee in terror when enlightenment about CyberSpaceTime is revealed, as William James tried to run away from the vision of the Iron Block Universe.

I have the power to melt iron and resolidify it. I can do a spacetime walk outside of the spacetime block to do repairs on it from outside, make alterations of pieces of the spacetime block, like at the corners of the rock.

Four rabbis entered a mushroom snake tree apple garden gate in paradise.


Four rabbis entered the garden in paradise.
One rabbi died.
One rabbi went insane.
One rabbi became a heretic.
Only one rabbi became enlightened.
— Evil Rabbi Tightcog

But that’s not what the scriptures that are being commented on say; that’s what the evil clueless exoteric Peter Tightcog commentators say in their pseudo-summary.

The Mary John Loosecog esoteric commentators point at the text of the original story, the signal, ignoring the noise, which is the fake mock commentary, layers of Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism (foolish exoteric) rabbis commenting on layers of Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism (wise esoteric) rabbis’ commentary.

— Rabbi Loosecog
Group: egodeath Message: 9178 From: egodeath Date: 20/09/2016
Subject: Be Irvin compatible
It’s unclear what to make of Irvin’s still-early findings that Pop Sike Cult is a CIA invention to disempower people in some way.

Good Theory about psychedelics in religion should not contradict Irvin’s data/research findings.

I never bought into Pop Sike Cult but built my own separate foundation.

I didn’t read any Pop Sike books, wasn’t aware of them, until 1988 after my Core theory development in January 1988.

Then my project of widespread reading of all the poor writings on related subjects has an attitude of learning poor thinking in order to communicate my good insights to poor thinkers such as Pop Sike authors.

Heinrich I believed; not off-base (around 2000), but the usual authors, Leary, I thought way off-base. My mission was to replace R.A.W. as far as identifying what psychedelic gnosis is about.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9179 From: egodeath Date: 20/09/2016
Subject: Re: Be Irvin compatible
One thing that I have never seen anyone comment on this is the red flag that for me made me disbelieve everything I read about psychedelics history around 1960s the tall tale of Leary’s prison escape

you don’t just escape from prison and write books about it how is it that Leary escaped from prison and then wrote books about it

this is completely unbelievable and therefore everything about this everything about the published books the histories of the 1960s is completely unbelievable, exactly as unbelievable as Leary escaping from prison and then writing books bragging about it

that doesn’t make any sense at all

you can’t just do that

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9180 From: egodeath Date: 20/09/2016
Subject: Re: Be Irvin compatible
McKenna Leary Huxley why didn’t they reveal Eucharist is mushrooms?

McKenna was forcefully dismissive of mushrooms in Christianity.

Effectively McKenna might as well of been part of some conspiracy to deny and suppress mushrooms in Christianity.

Why did the CIA assert the set of fallacies they chose to assert in inventing pop psych cult but not other ideas?

To what extent was there a conspiracy to suppress mushrooms in Christianity in the 60s?

if no academics were able to put together the totally obvious realization that Eucharist is mushrooms why was the CIA somehow aware of that — did agent Wasson’s Vatican tell them?

Does this explain the extreme fatal assumption, the unbelievably self-defeating assumption spread by all of the 1960s psychedelic authors?

The assumption firmly reinforced by all of these authors that LSD is new (as a type), that adding psychedelics to religion is new, especially adding psychedelics to our own religion is wildly new and of course our own religion lacks psychedelics.

Why didn’t the CIA’s invented Pop Sike Cult reveal mushrooms in Christianity?

Did they suppress knowledge of mushrooms in Christianity?

Why did the CIA invent the particular version of false psychedelics history that they created, not some other version?

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9181 From: egodeath Date: 20/09/2016
Subject: Re: Enlightenment = Permanent Psychosis
Against Hanegraaff’s extreme dissing of Eranos, I credit my car repair shop’s sharing library for the Eranos book article by Kerenyi on Mask and babies dying seeing snake through the mask.

That is analogy describing transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism by Psilocybin as is the ancient wisdom on a lace doily on a silver platter decoding of ‘gnosis’ brought to you by Eta Kappa Nu 1988.

kicks these children out when they start turning to look up and behind the mask to see the snake and panic climax desire for control power death demonstration and worldmodel conflagration

Hanegraaff is in error dissing Eranos and (inconsistently defined) “Religionism”.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9182 From: egodeath Date: 21/09/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast commentary
What position precisely is McKenna asserting? (Implicitly and explicitly.)

Did McKenna assert the following? Did he assert these explicitly or implicitly?

o No one (or, insufficient numbers) in Christian culture ever understood the Eucharist as mushrooms. [need to define what this means/doesn’t mean]

o For thousands of years, across thousands of miles, no psilocybin mushrooms (or, insufficient numbers) grew in Europe.

o There are no mushrooms (or, insufficient numbers) in Christianity. [need to define what this means/doesn’t mean]


It is amazing how widespread is the poor, vague, inconsistent statement of what a researcher’s position is, and what position a researcher is refuting.

This is a huge issue in Wasson’s writings, in Letcher’s (Hatsis’) writings, and the more I read Hanegraaff the more inconsistent and ill-formed his accursed Religionism demon is.

Since Hanegraaff is wrong or hazy I must be Religionism.

Religionism is when you because of reading about psilocybin recognize religious myth as analogy describing psilocybin causing experiencing switching from Possibilism to Eternalism-thinking.

Religionism is profound and fits with strict critical historiography.

The one authentic religious experience is transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism on Psilocybin.

Religionism is Psilocybin mental mode switching in loosecog from Eternalism to Possibilism thinking.

There are 7.3 different types of religionism — isn’t Hanegraaff magically reifying to demonize stuff, “Religionism, I summon thee in all forms, to curse thee!”

No doubt, Hanegraaff has taken the wastebasket he dumped out and using the wastebasket now labelled as Religionism, to randomly toss away and curse anything he doesn’t like.

This is how the term ‘religionism’ *functions* in his *narrative* of good wise blessed exoteric strict critical historiography [EXCEPT FOR MUSHROOMS IN CHRISTIANITY] vs. evil foolish dread and accursed RELIGIONISM!! Run away!

“*my* wastebasket, now”, taken over from Protestant Rationalism, throw {the interest in decoding ancient wisdom gnosis salvation} into my repurposed wastebasket.

All that gnosis elixir hoodoo ceremony prayer stuff is preventing accurate strict critical historiography in its exoteric-only Real Scholars glory.

What a defeatist. Religionism is imperfect, so BAN IT! Throw Religionism in the wastebasket!

And then all forms of all stuff you dislike, redefine your magic reified term ‘Religionism’ to include that.


No one speaks for me: I have never stated my experience.

You don’t know sh*t about my amount or absence of experience so stfu about my alleged experience.

Peep can talk all they want about casually my experience — means they are not objective. They don’t know sh*t about it.

Got to get to bt keyboard.


In honor of Campbell I’m buying nice 3rd e. Hero Faces.

My foundation core peak breakthrough was 1/88 but 11/2013 tree snake peak breakthrough I was all like OMFG!! OMFG!! OMFG!! for like a week, def. 4 days at least.

THE POWER OF MYTH is the book — along with cover of kylix art of Jason and the serpent guard at the {laurel branch near-nonbranching 1-stem subtree} with golden ram fleece hung over where the branching point would be, Athena wearing snakes aegis in Paradise garden of the Hesperides in Eden.

Golden fleece of Abraham’s sacrificed ram when Jason looked up and looked behind his mask at the power ram caught helpless in Minkowski cyberspacetime the king’s son flees and is torn to pieces by the mind demonstrating desire for control steering power judging alarming compelling (side or foot) vulnerability to ready disproof of the power of the king in tree trunk frozen in Rock.

Campbell’s power of myth was there when I saw tree snake Possibilism Eternalism.

Only half the painting actually. Grayscale not color.
The only inspiration I got so far from that book THE POWER OF MYTH was a single, quarter of a painting, Eve smile holding apple looking at smiling snake in tree of knowledge in garden near God naked (Oden) not clothed w egoic thinking mask.

Joined to Jason tree fleece serpent Athena aegis, mushroom mythology of tree vs. snake as transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism BLEW MY F-CKING MIND, man!!

I saw, I understood.


People who reject something like “mushrooms in Christianity” never specify their position clearly, or the position they are against.

Letcher constantly wavers on what his position is, and on what position he’s against.

People who assert something like “mushrooms in Christianity” specify their position clearly, and clearly specify the position they are against.

My theory of ahistoricity of Jesus is superior because it is better defined, excellently and well-formedly specified.

I define what specifically it should mean to assert that Jesus didn’t exist.

It is meaningless if you just say Jesus didn’t exist.

A binary is too simplistic (Jesus existed vs. Jesus didn’t exist). What *counts* as “the historical Jesus”?

Jesus is the sun, the sun exists, therefore Jesus exists.

Joe Shmoe in antiquity was developed into the Jesus figure. Mr. Shmoe existed. Therefore, Jesus *existed*, as a specific historical identifiable individual, without whom Christianity couldn’t have started.

John Smythe also existed, and was another source for the mythical Jesus figure, therefore, Jesus historically exists as an individual TIMES TWO.

You can have zero Historical Jesuses (HJs) or a thousand HJs; what the data forbids you from having is a single HJ, “the” HJ, a single time-machine identifiable individual without whom Christianity wouldn’t’ve started.

With such useful precision of definition, specify what McKenna asserted, specifically — or what Wasson/McKenna/Letcher/Hatsis asserted specifically — and what he refuted, specifically.

What are the untenable implied assertions within what McKenna asserts and refutes regarding the Eucharist (agape meal, Communion, Lord’s Supper) recognized/understood/ingested as psilocybin and/or Amanita mushrooms?

Childish, immature, undeveloped thinking is *vague*, filled with an unconscious, implicit assumption-set, that doesn’t hold up and is self-contradictory, when dragged into the light and deconstructed.

Unthinking non-thinking, unthinking thinking; thoughtless thinking.

Kettle logic; incoherent biases and prejudice and unconscious illogical assumptions, like Hanegraaff accusing Allegro of getting his ideas (about the mushroom basis of Christianity) from Wasson — which makes little sense, given that Wasson asserted that there were mushrooms in proto-Jewish Ancient Near East religion *only* prior to the writing of Genesis, *not* during Jewish or Christian history.

Wouter Hanegraaff is sheerly confused, in Hanegraaff’s beat-on-Allegro academic suicide blog post.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9183 From: egodeath Date: 21/09/2016
Subject: Re: Hanegraaff’s Academic Suicide
There goes Hanegraaff, any time he writes anything about Allegro

http://google.com/search?q=roller+derby+wipeout&tbm=isch
Group: egodeath Message: 9185 From: egodeath Date: 21/09/2016
Subject: Re: Enlightenment = Permanent Psychosis
WHAT’S MISSING FROM EVERY MYTH THEORY IS *PSILOCYBIN*.

*** _PSILOCYBIN!!!_ ***

Mushrooms stand tall above all myth scholarship and are *the* key to fully decoding religious mythology.

Religionism is not bad so far as it goes, but it omits psilocybin.

Campbell’s dream psychology explanation of myth is not bad so far as it goes, but it omits psilocybin.

Hanegraaff’s exoteric esotericism is not bad so far as it goes, but it omits psilocybin.


Hanegraaff, students will be interested in PSILOCYBIN History. Non-psychedelic history is boring and reductionist and not what the psilocybin mind is looking for.

There’s Dionysus mania frenzy ecstasis in High History — or, to prevent your dark word-magic, I say *Psilocybin* History, not your wrecked term ‘Entheogen’ History which permits evil meditation to masquerade as “an entheogen”.

The history of nondrug “meditation” is the history of error and avoidance of the ancient psilocybin gnosis wisdom.

If meditation “can” cause the intense mystic altered state, I’m going to block a nostril and trigger seizure. Doesn’t happen.

Meditation is anti-en-theo-gen.

Keep that meditation bullsh-t *well* away from sacred psilocybin, the only entheogen.

Nondrug meditation is a fraudulent, psilocybin-avoidance tactic.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9186 From: egodeath Date: 21/09/2016
Subject: Re: Hanegraaff article: Entheogenic Esotericism
MEDITATION IS BULLSHIT.

Meditation is ANTI-en-theo-gen.

The *only* entheogen is psilocybin.

Meditation is fraudulent, an imposter that exists purely for the purpose of avoiding gnosis wisdom, which comes only through a series of PSILOCYBIN redosing sessions.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9187 From: egodeath Date: 22/09/2016
Subject: Re: Bk: Esotericism and the Academy (Hanegraaff)
How to tell which “contemporary esotericism” counts as esotericism, warranting studying? Easy and clear, for the Egodeath theory:

True Essentialism: Real Esotericism is Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism; Real Esotericism is that which describes transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism.

Is Esotericism found in modern comix? Yes to the extent that comix describe transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism, from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Psilocybin Eternalism.

Roundtable discussion on contemporary esotericism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjI_pxQXVi4
1:23:30

Against Hanegraaff, all authentic esotericism, Real Esotericism, provably, can be reduced to one thing:

Esotericism is analogy describing psychedelics transforming experiencing and thinking from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism.

How a scholar should practice Esotericism:

All the way: the scholar ingests Psilocybin in a series of redosing sessions, while reading the Egodeath theory about transformation from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism.

Sufficient: scholar reads about ingesting Psilocybin in a series of redosing sessions, while reading the Egodeath theory about transformation from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism.

[1:40:25]
Audience:
Schematically excluding the possibility that there might be a cross-culturally valid universal psychological factors in the Western esotericism.

Hanegraaff:
I’m definitely not excluding that at all. That would be a question of comparative research. That would be a conclusion of research. So first you do the research, and there you find out that there are commonalities I’m open to that possibility. The problem of Religionism is that it works the other way around, it *starts* with the assumption, and no matter what you find in your research, you still hold to that assumption. That’s something completely different. But no, I would be not against, on the contrary, I’m not at all against looking for trying to find commonalities and that I find it very important and exciting to do, absolutely.”


Hanegraaff’s implicit model of how you form hypothesis and test them is incoherent and unrealistic. The distinction he’s trying to make, between looking for universal, vs. discovering it “first”, is nothing — there is no difference.

Hanegraaff is a confused gatekeeper trying to make a hard distinction between the order of salvation; to discover a universal pattern, you have to be trying to perceive a universal pattern.

I formed the Eternalism/Cybernetics model of Transcendent Knowledge/ego transcendence, with no focus on religious mythology, and then I brought that model to myth, expecting corroboration, and I confirmed the expected observational result: my model (Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism) is found in myth as its central concern.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9188 From: egodeath Date: 22/09/2016
Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
The Holy Gospel of Psilocybin Salvation

I am the way and the truth and the life; none shall come to the Father but through me, psychoactive mushrooms, the redemptive Psilocybin flesh and blood of Christ.

The intense mythic altered state comes *only* through sacred, blessed Psilocybin, *not* through the Antichrist’s accursed, counterfeit religions of nondrug “contemplation”, dreaming, nostril-blocking, hyperventilating, affected babbling, or anything else other than Psilocybin.

When children want to avoid seeing the snake through the mask, to avoid dying and being sacrificed, they use meditation and disparage Psilocybin.

The false, low, exoteric, pseudo-esoteric religion is meditation.

Meditation is a fake, placebo imitation of Psilocybin.

Satan meditates. Satan thinks mushrooms are an imitation of meditation.

Exoteric thinkers believe that Mushrooms imitate Meditation (with claimed success, but without actual success).

Esoteric thinkers know that Meditation imitates Mushrooms (with claimed success, but without actual success).

Salvation, enlightenment, satori, wisdom, gnosis, regeneration, redemption, comes only one way: through Psilocybin; through ingesting psychedelic drug chemicals.

Most classically and ergonomically fine-tuned to go most readily into the intense mythic altered state, is a series of Psilocybin redosing sessions, per the long, ancient mixed-wine banqueting tradition.

Freedom of religion means specifically, above all, the freedom to ingest Psilocybin as the Eucharist.

Freedom of Religion requires specifically, above all, the full repeal of Psilocybin Prohibition, back to the 1776-1913 nonexistence of laws against psychoactive drugs.

There is *no* freedom of religion without Psilocybin.

There is no freedom of religion — there is no actual religion or salvation at all — without Psilocybin.

I am the way, the truth, and the life; none shall come to the Father but through me, the salvific Psilocybin flesh of Christ, the mixed-wine mushroom blood of salvation and eternal nondying life.

— Michael, the original, definitive, authoritative dogmatic Psychedelic Fundamentalist
Group: egodeath Message: 9190 From: egodeath Date: 22/09/2016
Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
When I write ‘Psilocybin’ or ‘Mushrooms’, I mean amanita, muscimol, psilocybic acid, psychedelic mushrooms, psychedelics, but definitely not Meditation. Meditation exists to avoid enlightenment.

When I write ‘Meditation’, I mean nondrug meditation in denial of its mushroom basis, and John Pilchian nostril-blocking, and the infinite list of placebo pseudo-mystic practices, which exist for the purpose of avoiding Psilocybin and thus of avoiding enlightenment, gnosis, ancient wisdom, salvation, satori, and blessing.

Thus when I preach about the evils of Meditation, which leads to eternal damnation, and glories of Psilocybin, by which the soul is saved, I am contrasting these lists, these sets of false and true ways.

I advocate extreme maximum Religionism.

I just need to get clear on Hanegraaff’s 27 different definitions. Glad to see he’s catching a lot of flak about basics of his hardcore fervent proselytizing for strict critical historiography and condemning and cursing Religionism.

The Egodeath theory’s all the way about maximum extreme Religionism.

The entire problem with religion is, not enough Religionism.

Maximum extreme Religionism is the Egodeath theory, involvement in the cultic occult hidden activity of reading about redosing psilocybin sessions to transform from Possibilism-cognition to Eternalism-cognition.

cognition = mental construct processing = thinking + experiencing

This is a reason to use ‘cognitive’ instead of ‘mental’. The words ‘thinking’ and ‘experiencing’ are overspecific. The other terms are able to cover thinking and experiencing.

In the garden near God at the snake-guarded mushroom tree is hyper-hyper-Calvinism and Eternalism-cognition.

“Western” esotericism is catching flak — we psychologists are looking for universal global gnosis — I to corrob. my indep. theory that was formed uncontaminated by myth.

When I brought my Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence to myth from the Engineering department in November 2001, I discovered myth is clever analogy describing Eternalism/noncontrol.

I eventually drew the extreme conclusion that all authentic religious myth is based on Psilocybin (against nondrug dreams, nondrug meditation, nondrug drumming, nondrug speaking in tongues, etc., etc.)

The Holy Spirit is Psilocybin and nothing else.

The Holy Spirit is none other than Psilocybin.

The only way for Buddhists to be saved is by eating the flesh of Christ, and drinking the blood of Christ, Psilocybin.

In a series of redosing sessions with Praying Hands per ergonomic Traditionalism.

Else, their mind will burn in purifying Psilocybin flames for eternity, a never-ending bad trip until they are turned to faith by the order of salvation:

Did you discover gnosis the righteous way, purely by strict critical historiography, mind chaste and free of any sinful thoughts of psychological commonality underlying religious mythology?

Or did you — God forbid! — exert sinful human effort to deliberately *look for* the psychological universal commonality of ancient gnosis wisdom, and that’s the real motivation for your bad pseudo-historical pseudo-scholarship?

We must strike the correct pose and give the correct impression, so that the other departments can see that we don’t mean business when it comes to figuring sh-t out like gnosis and wisdom.

We must leave that embarrassing rubbish to the amateurs!

Steven Katz has put out a warning to all departments: beware of pseudo-scholars who stoop to trying to figure out and decode universal ancient gnosis and wisdom.

Rest assured, Other Departments, the new field of Western esotericism strictly enforces correctly following the rules of Strict Critical Historiography, and constantly, vigilantly guards against unprofessionalism.

Particularly, we fully demonize any attempt to decode universal religious mythology and Western esotericism, in terms of universal psychological dynamics of the loose cognitive association binding state induced by Psilocybin.

Scholarly Western esotericism is PURE and has NOTHING to do with trying to identify a preexisting theory (Analogical Psilocybin Eternalism) in the core of world religious mythology, by rummaging willy-nilly through fanciful fictional histories (such as the existence of Eusebius, Paul, Jesus, Adam, Moses, Balaam, Isaac, Jacob, and Abraham).

😦 The ahistoricity of Old Testament figures *used to be* controversial, way back in 1995; now it’s like “duh, obviously; why would anyone think otherwise?”

Psilocybin is the only savior, Psilocybin interpreted as the flesh of Mr. Historical Jesus. Jesus lives! Hallelu Jah!

Vow Ter Hanegraaff never *imagined* such a thing as a successful authoritative decoding of world religious mythology, a successful solution, experientially readily immediately freely reproducible and observable by all, reliably, the source of authority.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9191 From: egodeath Date: 22/09/2016
Subject: Re: Hanegraaff’s Academic Suicide
The article misses an opportunity to say something — anything — about the ahistoricity of Jesus, which Allegro asserted in SMC.

Hatsis indicated that he is devoted to ridiculing ahistoricity. Hatsis blames the ahistoricity view as a major reason why academics reject knowledge of visionary plants in religious history.

Allegro is correct: Jesus didn’t exist, and Christianity is based on mushrooms; Christians recognized the Eucharist as mushrooms.

McKenna is incorrect on this. Did McKenna write about Jesus’ ahistoricity?

Western esotericism restricted to the early modern period, and now permitting-in the current era (2016), is a handy shelter from the controversy over NO HISTORICAL JESUS. Or Paul, Eusebius, Church Fathers, Peter, or existence of recognizable Christianity before 325.

Chrest saves! Especially if you are hellenistic ruling class in Egypt. (John Bartram)

I’ve never seen Hanegraaff mention ahistoricity, or reject Allegro because Allegro is doubly taboo (analogical/ahistorical Jesus, Mushrooms).

The Thrice Taboo Egodeath theory: Analogical/ahistoricity Psychedelic/mushroom Eternalism/noncontrol.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9192 From: egodeath Date: 22/09/2016
Subject: Re: Bk: Esotericism and the Academy (Hanegraaff)
exoteric religionism vs. esoteric religionism

High Religionism, esoteric, inner, deep, profound, authentic, authoritative, core, valid Religionism — it’s like, Analogical Psilocybin Eternalism. Conforms to the requirements of the Egodeath theory.

low, pseudo-“Religionism”, exoteric, outer, shallow/superficial, trite, aping, fake, imitation, counterfeit — based in Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism, which is the immature developmental stage, because it lacks Psilocybin.

Decoded: The universal psychology that drives world myth:
The mind is innately designed to eat a series of redosed psilocybin doses in order to mature from innate Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism-cognition to innate Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism-cognition.

— Michael Hoffman, the authority on High Religionism
Group: egodeath Message: 9193 From: egodeath Date: 22/09/2016
Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
My grandfather was a primitive Christian fundamentalist, pillar of exoteric Western religion.

My father was a Human Potential fundamentalist, pillar of exoteric Eastern religion.

I am a Psychedelic fundamentalist, pillar of esoteric World religion.

— Michael
Group: egodeath Message: 9194 From: egodeath Date: 22/09/2016
Subject: Re: Bk: Esotericism and the Academy (Hanegraaff)
The entire community of esoteric scholars recoiled from Hanegraaff anti-religionism, asking him to be clearer in his cursing of Religionism.

Hanegraaff almost destroyed the viable Esotericism department.

Hanegraaff had to give lip service to the opposite of his view, ContextualISM from Steven Katz, forced to affirm Essentialism research (trying to find Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism in Universal Psychology Esotericism).

Hanegraaff had to assert opposite of his Katzian view.

Hanegraaff must be recognized as a Katzian Contextualist, anti-Essentialist.

The Egodeath theory is successful Essentialism. There *is* a universal psychology basis of Esotericism: transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism on Psilocybin. That’s what Esotericism describes.

How can Hanegraaff the Contextualist *active explicit denier* of universal psychology-based universal religious myth, assert that he advocates *looking for* universal psychology-based universal religious myth?

He continues cursing Religionism while he now is forced to claim that he definitely *supports* a fundamental form of Religionism: looking for universal psychology-based universal religious myth.

Hanegraaff has deconstructed Hanegraaff.

Hanegraaff is unclear, irrational, contradictory like egoic Possibilism.

It is unbelievable when Hanegraaff asserts Katz’ thoroughgoing Contextualism and then turns around and claims, assuages, the rebelling troops of sage wisdom gnosis scholars, that in addition to being a dogmatic a priori Katzian Contextualist, nevertheless Hanegraaff also then claims he supports Essentialism.

SO RETRACT YOUR ASSERTION OF CONTEXTUALISM, or else you are self contradiction.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9195 From: egodeath Date: 22/09/2016
Subject: Re: Bk: Esotericism and the Academy (Hanegraaff)
And there was war in the Esotericism department, Hanegraaff and Katz’ Contextualist demons prevailed not, Michael and the Essentialist angels left standing stably based on the reconciled psilocybin fire breathing dragon snake preexisting worldline threat.

— Michael
Group: egodeath Message: 9196 From: egodeath Date: 22/09/2016
Subject: Re: Bk: Esotericism and the Academy (Hanegraaff)
Hanegraaff’s “strict critical historiography vs. Religionism” is a proxy for Contextualism (Steven Katz) vs. Essentialism.

Contextualism vs. Essentialism is what Hanegraaff covertly has in mind when he talks in terms of “strict critical historiography vs. Religionism”.

Contextualism vs. Essentialism must be debated as such.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9198 From: egodeath Date: 22/09/2016
Subject: Re: Power of Ideas: Esotericism, Historicism (Hanegraaff)
esotericism ~= “religionism” ~= Essentialism

exotericism ~= “strict critical historiography” ~= Contextualism

Red herring, poor wording: “pure consciousness event (PCE)”, Robert Forman; he ought to say loose cognitive binding.

It’s not important or relevant whether mythic experiencers have a PCE; nor “nonrational”; nor irrelevant social-domain crap that’s the usual referent reductionism domain scholars always assume.

What actually matters is loosecog vs. tightcog. Against Katz & Forman both.

The intense mythic altered state is correctly reduced and explained and decoded and mapped to *Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism*, not to:
pure consciousness event
nonrationality
social domain
mundane moral domain
agency recognition circuit
primitive unevolved psychology

The latter are all false reduction theories of the intense mythic altered state (loose cognitive binding, the source of which is Psilocybin).

Per the Egodeath theory, Analogical Psilocybin Preexistence is the true reduction (referent domain) of the intense mythic altered state.

Book:
Zen and the Unspeakable God: Comparative Interpretations of Mystical Experience
Jason Blum
http://amazon.com/dp/027107079X
Hardcover September 2015
Paperback planned October 2016
Critique of Katz and Contextualism, generally supports Essentialism.

Essentialism asserts there is a universal psychological dynamic underlying all intense mythic altered-state experiencing.

The Egodeath theory has successfully identified the universal psychological dynamic underlying all intense mythic altered-state experiencing.

The universal essence of mythic-state experiencing is analogy describing psychedelics causing a cognitive shift from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism.


Contextualism says that there is not a universal psychological dynamic underlying all intense mythic altered-state experiencing, but that the varying expressions of mysticism/gnosticism/esotericism are fundamental (rock bottom) to the mythic altered state.

Per Contextualism, there is only one layer, which is varying. Mythic-state experiencing can completely vary. No aspect constitutes a universal unchanging component.

Aligns with Exoteric religion. Hanegraaff claims that scholarly work is inherently exoteric.

Aligns with Hanegraaff’s “strict critical historiography”.

Hanegraaff makes a hard distinction between scholars and experiential mystics.

I object that scholars can integrate both:
1) mythic-trip and read about mythic tripping
2) interview mythic trippers,

These two modes (respectable scholarship vs. mythic tripping) are actually near to each other, not far as Hanegraaff asserts.


Essentialism says there is a universal psychological dynamic underlying all mystical experiencing, and the surface expression varies.

There are two layers: one unvarying, one varying.

Aligns with Esoteric religion.

Aligns with Hanegraaff’s rejected “Religionism”.

Scholars must do Religionism right: Essentialism per the Egodeath theory (Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism).

The problem is not Religionism; the problem is Religionism that picks the wrong referent, the wrong hypothesis of what universal gnosis wisdom is.

Other university departments reject bad Religionism, which misidentifies the universal referent of gnosis.

Other university departments respect good Religionism, which correctly identifies the universal referent of gnosis per the Egodeath theory and enables accurate tracing of change and development of the outer UI skin layer.


I am a {Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism} Essentialist.

I am an {Analogical Psychotomimetic Preexistence/noncontrol} Essentialist.

I am an Essentialist, and my particular theory — per my DIAMOND HAMMER OF INTERPRETATION, which Hephaestos forged for me — is Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism; Analogical Psychotomimetic Preexistence/noncontrol.

There is a universal psychological dynamic underlying all mythic-state experiencing: the Psilocybin-induced cognitive/experiential switch from
{Literalist
Ordinary-state/antidrug/nondrug
Possibilism/multipossibility branching/steering}
to
{Metaphorical/Analogical
Psychotomimetic/Psilocybin/Psychedelic/Mushroom
Eternalism/preexistence/noncontrol}.


Proper scholarship should identify the unchanging aspect of the mythic altered state as Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism, and should identify the varying surface.

As I have done, map the non-metaphorical core referent of myth, to the various metaphors of religious mythology and Esotericism.

Decode myth and Esotericism into non-metaphorical core theory.

Core theory: myth and esotericism is analogy describing {mushrooms switching cognition from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism}.

The core, unchanging referent of myth is {mushrooms switching cognition from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism}.

Proper scholarship maps myth and esotericism to {mushrooms switching cognition from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism}.

Proper scholarship, that appropriately impresses other departments as truly scholarly, is the tracing of change and development of the metaphorical surface expression, expression of the underlying non-changing perennial wisdom gnosis.

The Egodeath theory precisely identifies and differentiates the core unchanging part and the surface, changing expression part.

The ancient perennial wisdom gnosis is mushrooms switching cognition from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism, including how to move trust and dependency, from relying on (standing on) egoic Possibilism-thinking, to relying on (standing on) transcendent Eternalism-thinking.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9199 From: egodeath Date: 23/09/2016
Subject: Re: Power of Ideas: Esotericism, Historicism (Hanegraaff)
WH:
not an oppositional situation which does not mean that as a scholar you have to become a practitioner of course there’s a very different– obvious difference between being a practitioner and being a scholar of some esoteric movement.

WH:
but when I’m rejecting Religionism, it does not mean in any way a negative attitude towards close contact and learning from practitioners; on the contrary, these are two different things.

Aud:
… degenerating into Religionism in a certain way
_________

Is the Egodeath scholarly theory an esoteric movement?

Is the Egodeath theory “scholarship”, or is it “a movement”?

Am I a “practioner” of theorizing the intense mythic altered state?

Those Wouter words are magically reified scholarly Psilocybin initiation baskets, Apollo Michael hierophant uncovers the seductive terrifying worldline snake, and egoic Possibilism-cognition is embraced and trapped by the net back into the Rock omphalos navel of Earth.

Apollo Michael marries the fire breathing serpent winged mushroom seizing guard dragon, and abandons the oppositional stance toward Parmeinkowski’s spacetime Iron Metal Rock Block prison of frozen preexisting control cognition at each point along the steersman’s worldline in the next four minutes in Rock that is unstoppably unavoidably approaching climax satisfying demonstration of the High Science of Eternalism Cybernetics.

The most extreme maximum Pop Psycho Cult Religionism practitioners’ esoteric movement, the majick poseurs go running for apotropaic protection in light of the mushroid Authority of the Theory which causes permanent psychosis and ancient perennial contemporary gnosis wisdom.

— Michael Hoffman, the Egodeath theory
Group: egodeath Message: 9204 From: egodeath Date: 23/09/2016
Subject: Re: One-foot limping king lost sandal
Decoded:
one foot on land, one foot on water or lifted

This is the more profound decoding of {1-foot} than Carl Ruck’s relatively mundane literalist mapping to a mushroom.

Which leg does a mushroom rely on? Transcendent thinking, not egoic thinking.

The ancient perennial wisdom gnosis is mushrooms switching cognition from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism, including how to move trust and dependency,
from relying on (standing on) egoic Possibilism-thinking,
to relying on (standing on) transcendent Eternalism-thinking.

A turning point, at which I inverted my interpretation of “lifted foot”, was when I interpreted the bestiary Roasting Salamander illustration from Chris Bennett and Jan Irvin, criticized and dismissed by Andy Letcher (aka Tom Hatsis).

I realized then that the raised leg/foot is inferior, not superior.

The lifted foot doesn’t mean “transcendent thinking floats on magic transrationality”.

The lifted foot means “I’m not relying on egoic Possibilism-thinking for rescue, for stability of self-control.

I stop basing my personal control power on Possibilism-thinking. Now I instead *repudiate* (lift foot) Possibilism-thinking.

Now I rest and stand stably on Eternalism-thinking — the threatening snake-shaped worldline dragon, now I rely and depend on and trust the serpent the Creator created, my life and future thoughts frozen in rock preexisting.

I had been working on decoding raised foot Christ Pantocrator for years without satisfactory decoding.

John Rush’s book covers the {raised-foot} mytheme.

Only when I examined as a whole category the Bible and Greek instances of the foot/leg affliction mytheme, I solved it, as a category — not decoding an instance isolated.

Lifted foot means *not* based on.

Foot on ground means based on, reliable, solid foundation.

One foot I am not based on, one foot I am based on.

I am not based on (reliant on) egoic thinking (Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism; egoic Possibilism-steering power.

I am based on (reliant on) transcendent thinking (Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism); pre-existing, fixed-rail steering control.

Hephaestos limps; he relies and stands on and trusts in his transcendent thinking leg (Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism), not in his egoic thinking leg (Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism).

http://google.com/search?q=Jacob+wrestle+angel&tbm=isch

Jacob wrestles the angel God-thinking all night, gets the blessing, then limps.

Before wresting with God-thinking, Jacob had only one leg/basis: egoic thinking (Possibilism steering power).

The night of wrestling with God-thinking, Jacob adds Transcendent Knowledge as a new leg/basis, and is no longer based on egoic thinking (Possibilism steering power).

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9206 From: egodeath Date: 23/09/2016
Subject: Re: One-foot limping king lost sandal
Why did I recognize Revelation’s angel with 1 foot on land 1 foot on water today, not earlier?

Recently I’ve been continuing to think about Apollo crown of Laurel navel-rock with net trap next to female psychonaut on tripod in rock fissure cave temple with guard dragon Python, and recently that myth’s isomorphic equivalents in Revelation.

http://google.com/search?q=Apollo+Python+Michael+dragon+Revelation+parallels

I was recently quickened and heartened by a psychedelic webpage about that isomorphism, that I deliberately searched for.

I independently noticed the Apollo Python Michael dragon parallels; I figured it out and *then* for the first time read about it.

In contrast, when I looked for Balaam/Paul parallels scholarship around 2000, I came up with nothing, certainly nothing insightful.

http://google.com/search?q=Balaam+donkey+Paul+road+parallels
Fewer hits on Balaam/Paul than Apollo/Michael.

Protestant Rationalist Theology is lame and incompetent and blind to the language of religious myth, which is Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism.

Protestant Rationalist Theology serves to mislead and occlude, more than reveal and uncover.

Protestant Rationalist Theology *veils* Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism, rather than unveiling it.

— the Theory
Group: egodeath Message: 9207 From: egodeath Date: 23/09/2016
Subject: Re: One-foot limping king lost sandal
Decoding yet more myth is becoming redundant like finding yet more mushrooms in Christianity is becoming redundant.

Psychedelic scholars must continue the work of gathering evidence for mushrooms in Christianity.

After some point, additional evidence is relatively redundant, and merely helps assess the *extent* of authentic psychedelic esoteric High Christianity.

To what extent was the Eucharist recognized as mushrooms?

The more evidence we log, the better we can narrow-in toward the “quantified” answer. None? Some? Always?

Some. How big is “some”? Quantify “lots” and “esoteric tradition”.

In the spacetime block, exoteric incomprehension is dreary grey blobs, and esoteric comprehension of Eucharist as mushrooms is exciting orange blobs, all sciencey-like, like Professor Nutt’s Psychedelic Mood Ring brain-aura photography.

How much of the spacetime block has exoteric religion, with grey, the color of dull incomprehension of the mushroid Eucharist?

How much of the spacetime block has esoteric religion, with Lots Of Orange, the color of brightly illuminated comprehension of the mushroid Eucharist?

— the Theory
Group: egodeath Message: 9208 From: egodeath Date: 23/09/2016
Subject: Re: Power of Ideas: Esotericism, Historicism (Hanegraaff)
My agenda is for the Egodeath theory to degenerate into Religionism with a narrowing Religionist agenda of theorizing about Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism.

It is a story of intellectual and moral decline not seen since Allegro, Graves, Irvin, Arthur, Heinrich, Rush, M. Hoffman, Brown, and Brown.

Why didn’t Hanegraaff’s academic suicide posting mention Allegro’s assertion of Jesus’ ahistoricity?

The prisoners of Academia cannot assert Jesus existed, because they will look foolish, and they cannot assert that Jesus didn’t exist, because that is forbidden by the Establishment.

Academics aren’t permitted to touch that forbidden subject of instant academic suicide.

It is a tale of intellectual and moral decline not seen since agent Wasson, Letcher (Hatsis), and McKenna, in their determination to suppress mushrooms in Christianity.

Studying or in any way acknowledging the Egodeath theory is instant academic suicide.

No Jesus or Eusebius, all our religions are based on psychedelic drugs, and there’s no-free-will; we are puppets trapped frozen in rock, our kingly steering power a childish delusion until the snake sent by the Creator brings mushrooms into the mind’s vine-shaped stream of pre-existing mental constructs.

The main theme of the Egodeath theory is that it undermines everything produced by Academia and renders null the need for religion and classics and humanities and Esotericism departments.

Only an Engineering department is needed, to do further research in loose cognitive binding dynamics, plotting out stability regions per Control Systems engineering.

It will be not an academic’s suicide, but the entire disciplines’ ego death and rebirth — the University’s death and rebirth.

The Egodeath theory will be the death of the University as we know it, the end of the University’s childhood of lower higher education.

— the Egodeath theory
Group: egodeath Message: 9209 From: egodeath Date: 23/09/2016
Subject: Re: Power of Ideas: Esotericism, Historicism (Hanegraaff)
Keynote speaker panelists call for study of psychedelic drug induced altered states in contemporary esotericism occulture

Christopher Partridge
1:07:30-1:08:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjI_pxQXVi4
Group: egodeath Message: 9211 From: egodeath Date: 23/09/2016
Subject: Re: Bk: Esotericism and the Academy (Hanegraaff)
Hanegraaff tells scholars to learn multiple languages, but Hanegraaff knows one language: Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism.

I know two languages: Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism, and Analogical Psilocybin Preexistence/noncontrol.

The Egodeath theory is the Rosetta Stone to decipher mythic altered state analogy into explicit Theory, mapping between the Egodeath theory and Analogical Psilocybin Preexistence/noncontrol.

Gnosis is Analogical Psilocybin Preexistence/noncontrol; transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism.

Gnosis is transformation from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism cognition.

— the Egodeath theory
Group: egodeath Message: 9212 From: egodeath Date: 23/09/2016
Subject: Decoded: The Forbidden Fruit
Decoded: The Forbidden Fruit

Breakthrough: I decoded satisfactorily and adequately at last the mytheme {the Forbidden Fruit}, after years of original research in High Hermeneutics.

Here is how to fully read the Forbidden Fruit analogy in the intense mythic altered state.

This explanation accounts successfully for both the negative and positive valuation of the mushroom gnosis brought by the created snake, negative and positive valuation of being kicked out of the garden, negative and positive aspects of being inside the gated garden in the presence of God.

Why does God forbid himself gnosis/mushrooms?

Why does God suppress mushrooms and thus suppress gnosis/God-cognition?

What incentive does God have for often withholding gnosis/mushrooms from his puppet-creatures?

Why functionally, God forbade mushrooms, as the forbidden fruit, yet sent the snake he created, to bring to the psyche *sometimes*:

to push God’s creatures away from God-thinking into pseudo-separate life as King Steersman.

To create egoic-form life, the Creator must withhold, suppress, and demonize as taboo, Psilocybin, and the gnosis which comes from Psilocybin that is brought forcefully into the stream of cognition that is the rigid worldline snake created by God.

Insofar as the creator/Architect made the worldline snake *bring* the psyche Psilocybin, the creator brought the psyche into the gated guarded forbidden-fruit (mushroom gnosis) walled garden, to be consciously in the company of God, to have God-cognition.

Insofar as the creator/Architect made the worldline snake *not* bring the psyche Psilocybin, the creator cast the psyche out of the gated guarded forbidden-fruit (mushroom gnosis) walled garden, to not be consciously in the company of God, to not have God-cognition, but only creature-cognition, life under the delusion of separation, particularly, the delusion of egoic Possibilism steering power.

God put clothing on Adam and Eve.

Clothing per Robert Oden: _The Bible Without Theology_, which proffers off-base, ordinary-state based social-based “scientific” theory of myth.

Oden failed to recognize myth as analogies for the transformation of cognition to Psilocybin Eternalism.

The top half of the Eden tree snake is Eve (you) naked, not wearing egoic Possibilism-cognition.

God had the preexisting rigid worldline snake bring the psyche clothing and leave the garden: clothing = egoic mask possibility-cognition, moral culpability delusion.

Naked = in conscious presence of God = inside the gated guarded garden with the forbidden fruit, God forbids himself mushrooms in order to create the separate steersman delusion, in some regions throughout the preexisting cyberspacetime Rock Creation.

In the frozen spacetime block, what is the function of lacking-mushrooms?

Why did the programmer of the spacetime block put too few mushrooms into our worldline snakes?

Why does God so rarely make people’s frozen rigid worldline snakes bring mushrooms to the psyche?

What is the functionality accomplished by forbidding and underdosing the world-programmer’s snake creatures so that they usually cannot see that they are snake-shaped worldline kings locked frozen embedded powerless into the Minkowski Stone without any meta-steering power and without possibility-branching, locked into the monopossibility rail.


The tree snake Eve tells you:

Maiden take my hand
I’ll lead you to the promised land
Take my hand
I’ll give you immortality
Eternal youth
I’ll take you to the other side
To see the truth:
The path for you is decided


Egoic separation functionally requires suppression and avoidance of Psilocybin.

The dance of illusion, the stage drama of masks, of separate selves, agents steering themselves through the possibility branching tree — I have another pic of a king in a tree to add to the {king/tree} mytheme.

Joseph Campbell
The Hero with a Thousand Faces
3rd Edition
Page 105
King in a tree:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/albums/89630474

Foolish *ss-eared King Mark is in a tree looking at two women.

The donkey pseudo-king in a tree. The evil king is you, is an aspect of the mind.

The evil king (you) sends a hero (you) to battle the dragon (you) to get gnosis treasure.

Those who overcome, names in book of life, are permitted to pass in and out in peace in the gated garden with snake bringing mushroom-gnosis of Eternalism-cognition.

Those who the creator makes overcome, are made by the creator to pass in and out to the mushroom gnosis tree.

We’re on a mission from God:

FULLY REPEAL drug Prohibition, particularly the proven-traditional Eucharist, Psilocybin.

Eliminate the schedules, in the name of God — against God’s demonic forbidding of himself mushrooms as part of creating egoic delusion-mode life.

— Michael, reporting on-location from inside the gated forbidden-fruit garden in the presence of God not wearing any egoic Possibilism-cognition clothing, not hiding from God
Group: egodeath Message: 9217 From: egodeath Date: 24/09/2016
Subject: Gnosis communicable, Psychedelics technique discipline
Gnosis communicable, Psychedelics technique discipline

Psychedelics require technique and discipline and perseverance, and then gnosis is adequately and profoundly describable in regular, domain-specific language.

Video of a presentation/lecture:
The Role of Gnosis in Western Esotericism
Wouter Hanegraaff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwQ4G-CoToU
Recommended video lecture about the only-now-recognized centrality of ‘gnosis’.
Just watch the main lecture portion, in English.

Related article:
Reason, Faith, and Gnosis: Potential and Problematics of a Typological Construct
https://uva.academia.edu/WouterHanegraaff
2008

Hanegraaff asserts that we must push aside the over-focus on “what is gnosticism”, stop asking “what is gnosticism”, and start asking “what is gnosis” (frenzy, mania, ecstasis).

Mania and frenzy actually refer to the altered state (loose cognitive binding induced by psilocybin), not to the content of what is thereby revealed (gnosis).

gnosis = Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism; the content revealed by the psilocybin-induced altered state of frenzy/mania. Gnosis = transformation from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism.

mania/frenzy = loose cognitive binding (induced by psilocybin)

Hanegraaff makes the striking point that there are tons of studies of “gnosticism” and there are *no* studies of “gnosis”.

“gnosis” is treated — like Hanegraaff *zooms* past “Heimarmene” as if merely a little element among others — as a mere element among others.

He asserts that a conceptual revolution is required where gnosis is placed as the central sun, or peak, around which Esotericism must be re-arranged.

Gnosis is not a minor planet orbiting; it is the central takeaway, boon, blessing, gift, outcome, and central point of esotericism practice (the activity of using SKILLED DISCIPLINED MUSHROOM TECHNIQUE.

The unfair biased problem that mushroom usage has suffered, is that biased scholars contrast supposed highly refined, silently assumed as nondrug, mystic techniques, against unrefined, naive, single-dose use of mushrooms, with zero technique.

Mushrooms can be ingested without technique, or with technique.

The ancient mixed-wine mushroom banqueting tradition was a technique, *not* an inept beginner’s 1-time technique-free ingesting of mushrooms.

Psychedelics are the source of gnosis when psychedelics are used with *technique*.

Mushrooms *with technique and discipline* is a series of measured-dosage mushroom-redosing sessions.

False dichotomy: nondrug meditation has technique and discipline.

Using psychedelics replaces any need for technique and discipline. The false dichotomy goes:

Meditation = sitting, with technique and discipline

Psychedelics = ingesting drugs, without technique and discipline

Consider the cross-combinations that none of the biased commentators on “Meditation vs. Psychedelics” thinks of:

Meditation = sitting, without technique and discipline

Psychedelics = ingesting drugs, with technique and discipline

People obsess on set and setting purely for the purpose of avoiding the shadow.

Psychedelics users should focus on technique and discipline, not set and setting.

The problem with the Acid Test parties is not “poor set and setting”, but rather, the lack of technique and discipline.

Technique: medium-duration psychedelics (psilocybin), redosed, every week, for an entire semester, while studying the Egodeath theory.

Using psychedelics with effective *technique* reliably produces gnosis and effectively engages with the desired demonstration of psychotomimetic revelation of noncontrol with respect to time.

Using psychedelics with effective *technique* reliably produces transformation from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism-cognition to Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism/noncontrol-cognition.

The shadow is the psyche’s innate desire for demonstrating noncontrol.


Hanegraaff proposes “strict critical historiography” at the same time that he dismisses comprehending a universal underlying psychology-based content of gnosis.

My approach, a form of Hanegraaff 27 different definitions of Religionism, is to begin by accidentally discovering *the content of gnosis* first, and then walking from the Engineering department to the Classics department and confirming that what Classics is struggling to find is that gnosis content which I discovered outside the Classics department:

Hanegraaff incorrectly pronounces can’t even pronounce gnosis.

Hanegraaff pronounces ‘gnosis’ incorrectly; he pronounces it “guh no sis”. Actually the ‘g’ is silent.

My challenge in 1988 in writing up my block-universe noncontrol breakthrough, was not due to the alleged “inability” of language to express and communicate and clearly describe revelation and gnosis.

Supposedly, language works fine to discuss the experiences in human life, except for gnosis.

Rather, suitable usage of language — domain-appropriate skill — is required.

This is yet one more way in which I am the extreme radical deviant: everyone agrees gnosis can’t be communicate in words — but everyone is wrong.

Gnosis can be readily communicated in text postings as I have done.

This requires adequate specialized language skills.

Gnosis cannot be described by egoic noninitiates’ use of words.

Gnosis can be described by transcendent-thinking initiates’ skilled use of words.

In 5th grade, I tested as 11th grade reading level.

I am expert communication.

Gnosis can be fully described, just like everything else in experience, using words.

Gnosis is analogy/metaphor describing psilocybin/psychedelics-induced Eternalism/heimarmene/noncontrol-cognition.

More broadly, gnosis is not just the end-state, but is the full trajectory, of transformation from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism.

Gnosis is based in the Eternalism state of consciousness; the mythic altered state, the analogy altered state.

Gnosis is based in Eternalism cognition.

The magazine title is correct: _Gnosis_ (not _Gnosticism_).

That right title is copied by the new journal, titled _Gnosis_.

Hanegraaff is wrong in asserting that gnosis cannot be rationally comprehended or explained in language by one person to another.

I rationally explained gnosis and I readily communicate gnosis in text.

Here we must reject the ancients.

Western exotericism religious authorities are full of baloney.

Eastern exotericism religious authorities are full of baloney.

Antiquity’s exotericism religious authorities are full of baloney: they say gnosis is nonrational and incommunicable in language. Both are false.

Gnosis is rational and readily communicable in language.

That is how Modernity (my approach) is superior to Antiquity.

We must *check* with antiquity, like a Religionist, but we must be ready to dismiss antiquity, like an Enlightenment Rationalist.

Antiquity was right: there is gnosis upon drinking mushroom mixed wine.

Antiquity is wrong that that gnosis is ineffable and incommunicable (as if climax is communicable, and playing baseball is communicable in language, and feeling an itch or physical pain is communicable in language, but gnosis is not communicable in language.

A poll asking people if they experienced the *supposed* 7 traits of “mystic experiencing” (in their weak sensation of nondrug “mystic experiencing”) was able to confirm all the supposed traits, *except* for ineffability.

The poll failed to find people saying that their mystic experience is “ineffable”.

I don’t like the list of 7 supposed traits of “mystic experiencing” — they are not the traits that I would list.

#1 trait of “mystic experiencing”: Eternalism cognition. Timelessness/noncontrol/preexistence/non-meta-steering.

‘ineffable’ is meaningless and vague.

When you ask me if I experience timelessness, it is clear what is meant.

When you ask me if I experience “ineffability”, it is unclear what is meant.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9218 From: egodeath Date: 24/09/2016
Subject: Re: Enlightenment = Permanent Psychosis
2/3 of the readers of the Egodeath theory are enlightened.

1/3 of the readers of the Egodeath theory are *insanely* enlightened.


The Egodeath theory is insanely great. So clear, it’s crazy.

— Professor Loosecog
Group: egodeath Message: 9219 From: egodeath Date: 24/09/2016
Subject: Re: Enlightenment = Permanent Psychosis
Hanegraaff vs. Hanegraaff, continued.

Hanegraaff is losing the debate against Hanegraaff.

Hanegraaff argues, against Hanegraaff:

The scholar cannot and should not utilize the altered state, as from LSD.

Scholars have no way of accessing the frenzy mania state, and if they did, they’d be wrong — they would be Religionists, from which no scholarly good can come.

We must study gnosis frenzy mania psychotomimetics and entheogenic drug chemicals and psychedelics.

But we must at all costs avoid Satan, who is Religionism.

The Establishment alliance of Academia with Establishment drug Prohibition makes Hanegraaff dance the Prohibition Twist.

The Platonic Frenzies in Marsilio Ficino
Wouter Hanegraaff
https://uva.academia.edu/WouterHanegraaff
2009
Hanegraaff’s phrases:

ecstatic or trance-like states, experiences, and techniques

mania … a means of ecstatic access to superior knowledge
______
That follows my causal sequence:
1. Ingest the cognitive loosener (in a series of psilocybin redosing sessions).
2. Experience loose cognitive binding.
3. Transcendent Knowledge is revealed.

mushroom = Transcendent Knowledge, through loosecog.

mushrooms –> loosecog –> Transcendent Knowledge
______

frenzies, furies, madnesses

knowledge superior to that of ‘sane’ reason is given … in a state of divine inspiration

the priority of ‘frenzied’ insight over merely profane, rational argumentation

[for ‘rational’, read ‘OSC-based’; “thinking that’s limited to being informed only by the tight cognitive association binding state”]

altered states of consciousness (ASCs). …

Hanegraaff footnote 7 points out Tart’s ASCs included “it is important to realize that Tart’s volume also included non-drug experiences such as hypnagogic states, dream consciousness, meditation, and hypnosis. The same is true of … Baruss _Alterations of Consciousness: An Empirical Analysis for Social Scientists) [AMA 2003], which has chapters for Wakefulness, Sleep, Dreams, Hypnosis, Trance, Psychedelics, Transcendence, and Death.”

Of all these alleged techniques for inducing the true philosophers’ inspired psychotomania frenzy, only 1 technique is sufficiently effective: a series of psychedelic drug sessions done with sustained discipline and technique and study and prayer for stable dependence on the root source snake of preexistent control-cognitions laid out in frozen spacetime.

The other, nondrug methods (an infinite list) are insufficiently effective; they are bullsh-t fraudulent ersatz substitution/ replacement/ displacement/ suppression, psilocybin-avoidance techniques first and foremost.

Psilocybin helps meditation by a factor of 1000, proving that the driving factor or technique is not nondrug meditation, but rather, psychedelic drug chemicals.

Non-drug meditation doesn’t work. Meditation on psychedelics works.

Therefore it’s the psychedelics (used with discipline and technique), not the meditation, that causes Transcendent Knowledge, gnosis, transformation from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism.

Footnote 8 cites the book Acid Dreams: The Complete Social History of LSD. The CIA, the Sixties, and Beyond.

Hanegraaff phrases:
psychotomimetic [LSD]
“the madness of insanity and the madness of divine inspiration [=] an ‘esoteric’ understanding reserved for the elite.”

— Michael Hoffman, the insanely great Religionist
Group: egodeath Message: 9221 From: egodeath Date: 24/09/2016
Subject: Re: Enlightenment = Permanent Psychosis
Here is unassailable proof that Hanegraaff contradicts himself when it comes to frenzy.

“we might need to steer a course that avoids both the Scylla of frenzy and the Charybdis of soberness if we want to do justice, as scholars, to what Ficino would like us to discover.” Page 567, _Platonic Frenzies_.

So Hanegraaff tells scholars “avoid frenzy” (he here equates religionism with frenzy), in order to understand what Ficino meant by frenzy.

To understand frenzy, avoid frenzy.

That’s how to be a scholar of frenzy: by avoiding frenzy.

Hanegraaff demonizes and prohibits that which he glorifes and advocates.

Hanegraff asserts kettle logic:
Religionism is bad.
Frenzy/mania/ecstasis is good.
Religionism is frenzy/mania/ecstasis.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9222 From: egodeath Date: 24/09/2016
Subject: Hanegraaff incoherently demonizes Religionism
Hanegraaff incoherently demonizes Religionism

Wouter Hanegraaff *must* write an article defining the 27 types of ‘religionism’ that send him into panic seizure, he is white with terror having seen a ghost, the shadowy spectre of dread Religionism, an apparition from Hanegraaff’s unconscious.

Hanegraaff *must* do this, given that his entire advocated model of esotericism scholarship is entirely defined as the negative of “the” Religionism approach.

Just as Protestant and Enlightenment rationalism defined themselves negatively, in relation to discarded knowledge (pagan gnosis, the occult sciences), so does Hanegraaff define his entire theory negatively, in terms of anti-Religionism — but ironically, and tellingly, this purported Religionism which Hanegraaff lives to demonize, is strikingly ill-defined by him.

If Religionism is so very important that good scholarship entirely depends on rejecting Religionism, Hanegraaff needs to do a hundred times better in defining what is and what is not religionism, in his various 27 different varieties of his definitions of what Religionism is.

The psychotomimetic psychosis results, where Hanegraaff’s theory of religious scholarship is incoherent, because he rejects “religionism” but his ‘religionism’ is ill-defined.

Hanegraaff’s own shadow and demon-haunted motivation driving his work, is his ill-digested conception of ‘religionism’.

Hanegraaff’s scholarship is exactly as incoherent as his conception of his own shadow-construction, “Religionism”.

Hanegraaff advocates a technique for esotericism scholarship, which we would rightly identify as “Anti-Religionism” — where “religionism” is a concept invented to Hanegraaff; his own personal demon of his own invention.

Hanegraaff builds his Golem, names it Religionism, and then runs away after seeing a blurry outline of his Religionism Golem.

The only one in the world who knows what blurry demon is meant by ‘religionism’ is Hanegraaff.

Protestantism demonized pagan gnosis.

Hanegraaff demonizes Religionism, defined in a different, contradictory way, each time he explains what Religionism is.

The Egodeath theory demonizes nondrug enlightenment techniques.

The Egodeath theory may rightly be called The Anti-Meditation Theory of Enlightenment — both in 1988 (composing the the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence article as a rebuttal to JTP to publish in JTP) and 2016.

Ken Wilber and the 1988 Journal of Transpersonal Psychology asserted that ego transcendence is nondual consciousness by nondrug meditation.

The Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence 1988 asserted that (on the contrary,) ego transcendence is psychedelics producing loose cognitive binding producing Eternalism-cognition (including noncontrol).

Hanegraaff fails to clearly define the accursed “Religionism” by which he negatively defines his entire theory of esotericism and esotericism scholarship.

In contrast, I clearly define the accursed “Meditation” by which I negatively define the Egodeath theory: the false “Meditation” position which I destroy and demonize and condemn is:

“Enlightenment is nondual oneness unity consciousness through nondrug meditation.

Psychedelics imitate meditation, ineffectively.

Enlightenment comes from meditation.

Meditation is the authority, psychedelics are derivative.”


The Egodeath theory asserts, to the contrary:

Enlightenment/gnosis is psychedelics inducing loose cognitive binding (frenzy, mania, the furies), revealing Eternalism/noncontrol.

Meditation imitates Psychedelics, ineffectively, serving the purpose of avoiding psilocybin and avoiding enlightenment/gnosis.

Enlightenment/gnosis comes from psychedelics.

Psilocybin is the authority, meditation is derivative.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9225 From: egodeath Date: 24/09/2016
Subject: Re: Hanegraaff incoherently demonizes Religionism
I don’t reify “religionism”; instead, I always identify it as Hanegraaff’s invention, his own personal shadow projection: it is “Hanegraaff’s reified ‘Religionism’ construction”.

Not “religionism”, but rather, “Hanegraaff’s construction, ‘religionism'”.

Hanegraaff’s religionism

One reading of Hanegraaff’s confused and inconsistent demonizing of his ‘religionism’ construct that he invented, is that this distortion and anguished contradiction within Hanegraaff’s theorizing is a manifestation of dancing the Prohibition Twist, under the distorting conditions of drug Prohibition:

Hanegraaff seems to be saying, under the watchful censors’ eye of the Roman Catholic index of forbidden books:
________

I firmly instruct scholars DON’T DO PSYCHEDELIC DRUGS (only religionist *losers* do psychedelic drugs); rather, *study about* tripping balls.

I make a great show of demonizing and condemning psychedelic drug users, as religionists (that’s bad, religionism).

However, I exempt Benny Shanon; that’s not religionism.

— Hanegraaff
________

Where the f-ck does Hanegraaff draw the line between tripping balls appropriately for scholarly strict *critical historiography*, vs. tripping balls that is profane, anti-scholarly, departmental-reputation-wrecking *religionism*?

Hanegraaff tends to assert:

We must absolutely differentiate between:
o Tripping on psilocybin, and an agenda of psychedelics advocacy.
o Scholarly strict critical historiography reading about and writing about the history of tripping on psilocybin.

So many inconsistencies I found in Wasson, in Richard Evans Schultes’ _Little Golden Book of Hallucinogens_, in Hanegraaff, and in general, self-contradictions asserted by scholars, *Under The Distorting Conditions of Drug Prohibition*.

Deconstruct Hanegraaff, deconstruct all scholarship about gnosis, which comes from psychedelic drug chemicals.

All scholarship about gnosis (which comes from psychedelics, throughout history) is filled with deep self-contradictions, due to scholarship and censorship under the distorting Conditions of Prohibition.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com (it’s on the Index of Banned Theories)
Group: egodeath Message: 9228 From: egodeath Date: 24/09/2016
Subject: Re: Hanegraaff incoherently demonizes Religionism
Hanegraaff is a closeted Religionist.

First, Hanegraaff’s world was naive and simple:
o strict critical historiography (good)
o religionism (bad)

But then Hanegraaff discovered that the actual basis of New Age — LSD — was completely missed by his New Age book.

After Hanegraaff’s religious conversion, he wrote the article _Psychedelic Esotericism_.

Now Hanegraaff’s story is patched with epicyclic corrections, as:
o Strict critical historiography (good) (limited to exoteric)
o Religionism (bad) (not to be confused with the below)
o Psychedelic esotericism (good)

This psychedelicized Hanegraaff theory is patched together with the same brand of bubblegum Ken Wilber used to attach “also: altered states” to his Integral Theory diagram.

Hanegraaff’s revised and moderately psychedelicized “theory” is held together with the same Scotch-brand tape that Martin Ball’s “theory” of psychedelic enlightenment uses to discuss how to avoid “the shadow”.

There’s something fishy going on around “religionism” in Hanegraaff’s changing thinking.

“Religionism” is a concept Hanegraaff constantly champions, and yet, he never defines it at any length, though he constantly tries to apply it as a firm, most-important demarcation line.

Hanegraaff’s advocated methodology is {strict critical historiography}/{Anti-Religionism}ism.

What does ‘religionism’ *really* mean, secretly, in Hanegraaff’s mind?

Reading about psychedelics blew Hanegraaff’s mind, and he is struggling to revise what he asserted before, prattling ignorantly about “religionism”.

Religionism is the threatening, repressed, unconscious, shadow side of Hanegraaff — the seductive dragon snake worldline monster lurking in his wellspring in his rock cave of cognitive transformation, demanding that the king sacrifice his maiden.

At night, after work at the University of Exoteric Esotericism, Wouter sneaks off to the Religionism speakeasy.

Hanegraaff fulmigates against Religionism like a preacher castigates sexual sin, vaguely, indiscriminately, wildly, uncontrollably.

Hanegraaff acts like “Religionism” is important enough to constantly bring up continuously when defining your advocated position of strict critical historiography , but “Religionism” is not important enough to write an article clearly defining.

“Religionism” is the Forbidden Fruit (viewed negatively) for Hanegraaff.

Cuckoo Stuck Rad, one of the keynote speakers on Western esotericism, one of the exoteric esotericism advocates…said something I object to about esotericism and exotericism.

There’s too much I could comment on as distorted, throughout these exoteric esotericism mis-information from Hanegraaff and Cuckoo.

Everything they say is pregnant with potential, but misfires.

Wouter wrote proudly, “Scholarship is inherently exoteric.” Was that before or after his extreme religionist conversion article, _Psychedelic Esotericism_?

What’s the difference between:
o Strict critical historiographical scholars studying psychedelic history
o Religionism
o Strict critical historiographical scholars tripping on psychedelics

Wouter tells us to study psychedelic esotericism, but beware: he condemns and curses Religionism as an approach to critical historiography.

If you study psychedelic esotericism, are you a Religionist, or a strict critical historiographer?

Hanegraaff praises Shanon. It is completely unpredictable who Hanegraaff will slag as a Religionist.

Is “Religionism” a crypto-word for tripping on psychedelics?

Is “Religionism” a product of drug Prohibitionist discourse?

Given how poorly and inconsistently Hanegraaff has defined ‘religionism’, his construct ‘religionism’ is useless — especially since Hanegraff’s article about his religious conversion, _Psychedelic Esotericism_ — that potentially forced him to deeply revise everything he had previously vehemently asserted.

Theology mis-guiding my thinking, I went to curse Balaam, but to pass through the death gate revealed on the vine path, I looked in the rear-view krater and I saw my personal mask in the transpersonal block universe and I died.

So then I blessed Balaam.

Evil demonic seer, pagan heretic:

Balaam, after the death angel gate, I bless you.


I only type the words that God puts in my fingers.

The best people are those who I (the Creator) fully bring to myself by having my VR world generator create their worldline snakes with lots of mushrooms.

The best people are the most God-cognition people, who are the most mushroid cognition people.

The angels are peaking on psilocybin continually, along with those in the Eden Garden of the Hesperides with Eve dragon guarding the mushroom tree of gnosis about moral agency.

Through the wound in his side was the psyche’s overpowered thought-receiver born.

She took mushrooms with technique and discipline and perseverance and the worldline brought the psyche steering-power death, gnosis, and nondying.


Why doesn’t the Creator generate a world with more worldline snakes that include a full series of high-quality psilocybin redosing sessions that achieve the ideal level of loosecog: rapidly rise to ideal level surfing the event horizon of loss-of-control, stay there as many hours as you want or have time for, and then rapidly descend to baseline.

This is the “steady ideal level” technique.

The ideal loosecog intensity curve: __—-__

The psychedelics method of gnosis uses *TECHNIQUE* and *DISCIPLINE* over an *EXTENDED PERIOD* (f-ck you, Satan Meditatin’!)

The psychedelics method of gnosis (per the Egodeath theory) produces better moral character than meditation — such as not asserting bullsh-t about meditation being “like” psilocybic acid, and bluffing that meditation “CAN” cause tripping/loosecog, when in fact meditation doesn’t come close in ergonomic efficacy.


Yet more Pop Sike Bullsh-t:
“When you get the message, hang up the phone.”

People only can sufficiently get the message — full modern scientific comprehension of gnosis, as a solved problem, in terms of Analogy, Psychedelics, and Eternalism — now, with the Egodeath theory. Not in the 60s.

Since 1997, 2006, and 2013, the world-wide internet has had available the Egodeath theory.

The Egodeath theory provides full modern scientific comprehension of gnosis, as a solved problem, solved simply and elegantly in terms of Analogy, Psychedelics, and Eternalism.

Gnosis is now a solved problem, in terms of Analogy, Psychedelics, Cognitive Phenomenology, and Eternalism/noncontrol.


MEDITATION PRODUCES INFERIOR MORAL CHARACTER compared to the psilocybin technique of enlightenment.

The usual claim is empty, a fart of gas: “Unlike the accursed psychedelic drugs, Meditation produces blessed moral character.” An empty, baseless claim, and the opposite of the truth.

Every monk is a fraud, morally corrupt, a scoundrel and liar, a posturing hypocrite, and an attempted thief of the Holy Spirit, who denies that meditation *came from* psilocybin.

Some “character” meditation produces.

Alan Watts said the purpose of meditation monasteries was to get misbehaving youths off the streets and out of trouble.

Meditators have inferior character.

People who use expert redosed psilocybin sessions to transform cognition from Possibilism to Eternalism have superior character.

Woe to the accursed “strict critical historiographers”!

Their temple will be torn down, with not one stone left standing on another!

I forgot I was speaking in God’s voice and I resumed typing in my own voice telling my own opinions.

At some point above, what I wrote is the Truth from God given to the Hebrews, and at some point my above writing becomes just mortal opinion, error, passing folly headed for wipeout.

— Michael the Prophet of Extreme Maximum Religionism
Group: egodeath Message: 9230 From: egodeath Date: 25/09/2016
Subject: Re: Hanegraaff incoherently demonizes Religionism
The psychedelic method of gnosis uses *TECHNIQUE* and *DISCIPLINE* over an *EXTENDED PERIOD* (f-ck you, Satan Meditatin’!)

The psychedelic method of gnosis (per the Egodeath theory) produces better moral character than (nondrug) meditation — such as not asserting bullsh-t about meditation being “like” psilocybic acid, and bluffing that meditation “CAN” cause tripping/loosecog, when in fact meditation doesn’t come close to psilocybin in ergonomic efficacy, and in practice, meditation serves the purpose of avoiding psilocybin and avoiding gnosis.

— Cybermonk
Group: egodeath Message: 9232 From: egodeath Date: 25/09/2016
Subject: Re: Hanegraaff incoherently demonizes Religionism
When you say “religionism”, are you talking about the pre-LSD Hanegraaff, or the post-LSD Hanegraff?


I’m not interested in publically speculating on any particular person’s experience.

I’m joking about theoretical, theory-related questions that are raised in Hanegraaff’s stumbling progress and revision of thinking.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com

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Subject: Re: Suppression of entheogen basis of religion
Group: egodeath Message: 7788 From: egodeath Date: 08/03/2016
Subject: Re: Suppression of entheogen basis of religion
Group: egodeath Message: 7789 From: egodeath Date: 08/03/2016
Subject: Re: Suppression of entheogen basis of religion
Group: egodeath Message: 7791 From: egodeath Date: 08/03/2016
Subject: Re: Applying core enlightenment to daily thinking?
Group: egodeath Message: 7792 From: egodeath Date: 13/04/2016
Subject: Re: Intellectual autobiography & origins of Egodeath theory
Group: egodeath Message: 7793 From: egodeath Date: 16/04/2016
Subject: Environmental impact of Prohibition
Group: egodeath Message: 7794 From: egodeath Date: 21/04/2016
Subject: Re: 2015 International Drug Reform Conference, entheogen enlightenme
Group: egodeath Message: 7795 From: egodeath Date: 21/04/2016
Subject: Re: Best glass oil rig design
Group: egodeath Message: 7796 From: egodeath Date: 21/04/2016
Subject: Cannabis as entheogen
Group: egodeath Message: 7798 From: egodeath Date: 23/04/2016
Subject: The Egodeath theory vs. panacea expectations
Group: egodeath Message: 7799 From: egodeath Date: 24/04/2016
Subject: Re: Intellectual autobiography & origins of Egodeath theory
Group: egodeath Message: 7800 From: egodeath Date: 26/04/2016
Subject: Re: Intellectual autobiography & origins of Egodeath theory
Group: egodeath Message: 7802 From: egodeath Date: 01/05/2016
Subject: Maximal drug policy reform, complete repeal of Prohibition
Group: egodeath Message: 7803 From: egodeath@yahoogroups.com Date: 01/05/2016
Subject: File – EgodeathGroupCharter.txt
Group: egodeath Message: 7804 From: egodeath Date: 08/05/2016
Subject: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
Group: egodeath Message: 7806 From: egodeath Date: 26/05/2016
Subject: Re: The Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence
Group: egodeath Message: 7808 From: egodeath Date: 26/05/2016
Subject: Re: The Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence
Group: egodeath Message: 7810 From: egodeath Date: 26/05/2016
Subject: Re: The Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence
Group: egodeath Message: 7812 From: egodeath Date: 26/05/2016
Subject: Re: The Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence
Group: egodeath Message: 7813 From: egodeath Date: 26/05/2016
Subject: Re: The Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence
Group: egodeath Message: 7814 From: egodeath Date: 26/05/2016
Subject: Re: The Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence
Group: egodeath Message: 7815 From: egodeath Date: 26/05/2016
Subject: Re: The Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence
Group: egodeath Message: 7820 From: egodeath Date: 26/05/2016
Subject: Re: The Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence
Group: egodeath Message: 7822 From: egodeath Date: 27/05/2016
Subject: Advantage of psilocybin capsules over LSD
Group: egodeath Message: 7823 From: egodeath Date: 27/05/2016
Subject: Re: Advantage of psilocybin capsules over LSD
Group: egodeath Message: 7824 From: egodeath Date: 27/05/2016
Subject: Re: The Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence
Group: egodeath Message: 7826 From: egodeath Date: 28/05/2016
Subject: Profit motive for suppressing entheogens
Group: egodeath Message: 7827 From: egodeath Date: 28/05/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
Group: egodeath Message: 7828 From: egodeath Date: 28/05/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
Group: egodeath Message: 7829 From: egodeath Date: 28/05/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
Group: egodeath Message: 7830 From: egodeath Date: 28/05/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
Group: egodeath Message: 7832 From: egodeath Date: 29/05/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
Group: egodeath Message: 7833 From: egodeath Date: 29/05/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
Group: egodeath Message: 7834 From: egodeath Date: 29/05/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
Group: egodeath Message: 7835 From: egodeath Date: 29/05/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
Group: egodeath Message: 7836 From: egodeath Date: 29/05/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
Group: egodeath Message: 7837 From: egodeath Date: 29/05/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast



Group: egodeath Message: 7770 From: egodeath Date: 06/03/2016
Subject: Re: Suppression of entheogen basis of religion
That’s the deal. I support Buddhist meditation if this esoteric Buddhism (Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism) is made available to all who desire it.

— Cybermonk
Group: egodeath Message: 7773 From: egodeath Date: 07/03/2016
Subject: Re: Applying core enlightenment to daily thinking?
Metaphysical enlightenment about control, time, and possibility is a practical prerequisite before being able to use psychedelics for general purposes such as Cognitive Science research.

To make psychedelics (cognitive association looseners) safe for utilizing them for various purposes, it is necessary to explore, test, and map out the dangers of vulnerability to loss of control. The would-be user of psychedelics for various purposes asks “Am I vulnerable, is my control reliable, safe, stable, and secure?”

The king asks “Is my throne secure? I will send out spies to test people and look for vulnerabilities, look for ways that my throne can be overthrown.” In this sense, the king (control agent, steersman) ends up working against himself, looking for ways to undermine his power.

Paranoia, suspicion, feedback, a control-seizure vortex, whirlpool, maelstrom builds itself up, a self-reinforcing dynamic structure, a net-trap that catches and ratchets tighter the more the mind identifies and perceives it. To see the vulnerability is to fall prey to the vulnerability, to construct and realize the fatal practical control-loss problem.

Personal control power as normally conceived in the ordinary state is a projected illusion and arrangement of mental constructs which is a convention but is unrealistic, involving an imaginary source of power projected by the mind, the power purportedly originating from and wielded by the virtual ego.

That power is thrown into panic upon perceiving the real situation of where control power comes from.

Control power comes from outside the conscious projected locus of control, and the mind is forced into this perceived configuration, the mind is forced to trust its source of control thoughts; there’s no alternative to falling into line with the perceived situation.

The attribution of control power forcibly is shifted, is made to shift, from the projected virtual ego as the source of control thoughts, to the actual source of control thoughts coming in from outside of the projected, mentally constructed center of control.

Not that you save yourself by deciding to trust; rather, you are *made* to trust when you see that your power comes from not the accustomed imagined locus of control, the projected virtual ego, but rather from the pre-given, unalterable, external source of your own control thoughts.

This is the core of what religious mythology is about. Disempowerment, non-control, nonduality, frozen time, experienced in the entheogen-induced Eternalism state of consciousness.

After learning the unveiled source of control thoughts and therefore learning to trust it and recognizing the way in which your control is inherently vulnerable, the loose cognitive association state (psychedelics) can be utilized for general purposes. Religious mythology helps describe these classic dynamics of control in the loose cognitive state.

Thus we pass through the guarded conditional gate and are able to enter into the garden, the Loose Cognitive Science research laboratory, without getting ejected, thrown out, by control instability confusion.

The requirement in order to be permitted and able to utilize psychedelics, is that we must get religion, which means learning to trust the uncontrollable source of control thoughts, which practically requires literacy of how religious mythology metaphorically describes this process of remapping the source of control power.

Copyright (C) 2016 Michael Hoffman (Egodeath.com). All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 7774 From: egodeath Date: 07/03/2016
Subject: The Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence
An alternative to titling my theory “the Egodeath theory” or titling my core theory “the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence”, is “the Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence”, where Eternalism also means cybernetic noncontrol and is experientially induced by entheogens (cognitive association looseners).

the Entheogen-Eternalism-Cybernetics Theory of Ego Transcendence

can be abbreviated as

the Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence

which can be taken to include the Entheogen Eternalism Theory of Myth.

It’s useful to have flexible labels. Labels aside, I like the structure of having 3 labels:

The overall complete theory
o The half of the theory that covers loose cognition, Eternalism, metaperception, mental construct processing, and cybernetics noncontrol. 1985-1997, with Eternalism/monopossibility explicitly highlighted in 2013.
o The half of the theory that covers religious mythology and entheogens, mapped to the above, core theory. 1998-2016.

Thus I want a set of 3 labels crafted together as a set. Around 2010 I typically wrote:

the Egodeath theory
o the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence
o the Entheogen Eternalism Theory of Myth

Lately in 2016 I lean toward the set of labels:

the Eternalism Egodeath theory
o the Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence
o the Entheogen Eternalism Theory of Myth

There’s a tradeoff between concise and precise labelling. Labelling includes sets of verbose and terse labels, eg:

Loosecog
The loose cognitive association binding state

the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence
the Entheogen-Eternalism-Cybernetics Theory of Ego Transcendence

the Egodeath theory
the Entheogenic Eternalism Cybernetics Egodeath theory

The important thing is to separate and cross-map the technical theory of how mental model transformation works, vs. how that is metaphorically described by religious mythology.

Copyright (C) 2016 Michael Hoffman (Egodeath.com). All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 7775 From: egodeath Date: 07/03/2016
Subject: Re: The Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence
I have sacrificed alot to refine the Egodeath theory. People must specialize, due to constraints. It can feel daunting to me, how much mundane activity I have to do now to organize my life. It is tempting to escape into what I do best: developing the Egodeath theory. I wish to be free of entrapments of having to take care of mundane business, but the Egodeath theory was always developed under an oppressive to-do list, so this situation now is really about the same as always: in 1985, I struggled to enjoy and be enlightened while happily doing mundane things, balancing the 4 (becoming 5) areas I identified in 1988:

1985:
Engineering (livelihood)
Guitar
Social
Support (mundane tasks)

1988:
Engineering (livelihood)
Transcendent Knowledge
Guitar gear
Social
Support

What I ended up focusing on vs. sacificing:
Focused on:
Engineering
Transcendent Knowledge
Guitar gear

What I ended up sacrificing:
Social
Support

In fact, what I have to catch up on is not just mundane support tasks, but also social.

Other people don’t know about or understand Transcendent Knowledge and religious mythology, because they are too busy with livelihood social and support tasks as well as any special-interest they are committed to. So it was left to me to specialize in acquiring for everyone in a civilized, useful scientific way, Transcendent Knowledge. But I long for, and need a lot of. organizing mundane tasks, as well as social.

Ideally I want to, I have always wanted to enjoy the mundane Support tasks, supported somehow by enlightened Transcendent Knowledge. That was the great expectation and dream initially propelling all of this research in my initial phase 1985-1987.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7776 From: egodeath Date: 08/03/2016
Subject: Re: Suppression of entheogen basis of religion
Group: egodeath Message: 7777 From: egodeath Date: 08/03/2016
Subject: Re: Suppression of entheogen basis of religion
Letcher Hatsis can dismiss the mushroom theory of Christianity by conflating it with Allegro’s secret Amanita cult interpretation and applying the minimal entheogen theory of religion: “Inferior peoples use hallucinogenic drugs in a degenerate phase of religion, but no true Christians used mushrooms. We should interpret mushroom shapes as anything but mushrooms. We should ignore blatant mushrooms because they fail to be what we disprove: a *secret*, *Amanita* cult. Therefore we have disproved the mushroom theory of Christianity.” Richard Evans Schultes (the Golden Guide) and Wasson would approve. There may be mushrooms in others’ religions, but there are not mushrooms in our own religion.

Let Letcher Hatsis try to dismiss the mushroom theory of Christianity while he knows the interpretive paradigm option, the Maximal Entheogen Theory of Religion and Culture.

From within this paradigm, it’s a coherent given that religions (for example, the Bible) describe Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism and come from visionary plants. The entheogen basis of Christianity is sometimes explicit, sometimes suppressed, sometimes veiled then revealed in the altered state.

This paradigm combines all types of evidence, all evidential data of all types, theory of Eternalism, theory of the altered state, theory of metaphor, and interpretation and cultural analysis.

Letcher Hatsis has been extremely weak at theory and at data coverage regarding the extent of mushrooms in Christianity. He restricts himself to considering Allegro’s theory and analysis, and an inadequate set of art data.

My theory, my interpretation and analysis, my evidential data, and our data now go far beyond the little Allegro bubble that Letcher Hatsis limits himself to in his grand debunking of the entheogen theory of Christianity by attacking the secret Amanita cult as imagined by Allegro.

In Athens, it is not permitted to reveal the mysteries of Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism to the uninitiated.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7778 From: egodeath Date: 08/03/2016
Subject: Re: Suppression of entheogen basis of religion
Letcher Hatsis can dismiss the mushroom theory of Christianity by conflating it with Allegro’s secret Amanita cult interpretation and applying the minimal entheogen theory of religion:

Inferior peoples use hallucinogenic drugs in a degenerate phase of religion, but no true Christians used mushrooms. We should interpret mushroom shapes as anything but mushrooms. We should ignore blatant mushrooms because they fail to be what we disprove: a *secret*, *Amanita* cult. Therefore we have disproved the mushroom theory of Christianity.

Richard Evans Schultes (the Golden Guide) and Wasson would approve. There may be mushrooms in others’ religions, but there are not mushrooms in our own religion.

Let Letcher Hatsis try to dismiss the mushroom theory of Christianity while he knows the interpretive paradigm option, the Maximal Entheogen Theory of Religion and Culture.

From within this sophisticated, adequate paradigm, it’s a coherent given that religions (for example, the Bible) describe Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism and come from visionary plants. The entheogen basis of Christianity is sometimes explicit, sometimes suppressed, sometimes veiled then revealed in the altered state.

This paradigm combines all types of evidence, all evidential data of all types, theory of Eternalism, theory of the altered state, theory of metaphor, interpretation of ahistoricity, and interpretation and cultural analysis.

Letcher Hatsis has been extremely weak at theory and at data coverage regarding the extent of mushrooms in Christianity. He restricts himself to considering Allegro’s theory and analysis, and an inadequate set of art data.

He exclaims that the “Jesus was secretly a mushroom” theory is so easy to disprove, that the whole field of visionary plants in religion has been made to look like a joke not worthy of serious academic study.

Letcher Hatsis limits his thinking to the narrowest Allegro theory, conflates that with the broad entheogen theory of religion, stays ignorant of my sophisticated paradigm, then says that we must drive out Allegro, Rush, Irvin, and anyone else who argues that Christianity has mushrooms.

My theory, my interpretation and analysis, my evidential data, and our data now go far beyond the little Allegro bubble that Letcher Hatsis limits himself to in his grand debunking of the entheogen theory of Christianity by attacking the secret Amanita cult as imagined by Allegro.

In Athens, it is not permitted to reveal the mysteries of Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism to the uninitiated.

Low, exoteric, outsider academics are committed to literalist historicist ordinary-state Possibilism.

High, esoteric, insider academics are committed to Metaphorical (including ahistoricity) Entheogenic Eternalism. The only paradigm that succeeds at understanding entheogens in religion including Christianity is this complete theory including ahistoricity and Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7780 From: egodeath Date: 08/03/2016
Subject: Re: Suppression of entheogen basis of religion
I would delete post 7777 as a draft, but that would be bad luck.

Ram Dass is often a purveyor of magical and paranormal thinking, and is responsible for entheogen-diminishment fallacies, and propagates the Prohibition-friendly narrative about graduating from psychedelics to meditation.

His fake legend about the guru unaffected by acid — not even getting dilated pupils! — is Prohibitionist propaganda.

Any assertion made by Prohibition is a lie. Half the assertions made by collaborationists with Prohibition are lies.

Ram Dass is just one more suppressor of the truth, an entheogen-diminisher and dissimulator. We’ve heard quite enough from that Prohibition-collaborationist entheogen-diminishing psychedelic old guard, mixing truth and falsehood.

It is imperative that we flip the narrative.

To make progress, we must move beyond the compromised mis-leaders and confused pioneers in the field of entheogen scholarship.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7781 From: egodeath Date: 08/03/2016
Subject: Re: Suppression of entheogen basis of religion
A variation of “follow the money” is follow the book sales or follow the popularity contest. What do people want to be told? What woo will they most buy?

In 1967-1990, consumers of woo in the era of Prohibition want to be told that you graduate from psychedelics to meditation and that the enlightened guru is immune to acid because being enlightened is like blissful tripping 24×7.

So that’s what Ram Dass fed the consumers of woo. He told people what he was permitted to tell them and what they desired to be sold. He sold it and they bought it.

Where there is a demand, there will be a supply. The demand to be told an entheogen-suppressing narrative was due to excessive dosages, overwhelming effectiveness, and Prohibition censorship.

Acid should’ve been in 10 mic doses, not 250 mic doses.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7782 From: egodeath Date: 08/03/2016
Subject: Dosage format for legalizing
Doses should be physically large, fairly pricey, and weak (10 ug), and the dosage and chemical abbreviation should be clearly imprinted on each dose. This gives the right impression about the amount taken.

Add warnings about timing of redosing, and a warning that cannabis increases the effect.

4 HO DiPT or other short-lasting equivalent would have a more ergonomically controllable intensity curve.


When doses are physically tiny, dirt cheap, and very strong, it is too easy to underestimate the amount taken.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7783 From: egodeath Date: 08/03/2016
Subject: Re: Dosage format for legalizing
Advice with a somewhat bitter taste, for harm reduction, needs to give the experiential impression of poison medicine for healing, it should read as taking a hallucinogenic psychotomimetic entheogenic potion.

Copyright (C) 2016 Michael Hoffman (Egodeath.com). All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 7784 From: egodeath Date: 08/03/2016
Subject: Re: Dosage format for legalizing
The antidote should be with it. Brakes for the gas pedal.
Group: egodeath Message: 7785 From: egodeath Date: 08/03/2016
Subject: Re: Suppression of entheogen basis of religion
A kind of dedicated commitment is needed to a paradigm, to develop and use it as a point of reference. Ahistoricist Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism is the simplest, most elegant, clearest point of reference with greatest explanatory power.

Fully try ahistoricism, metaphoricity, entheogenic explanation, and Eternalism with noncontrol/monopossibility. Why these components? Parsimony, compactness, potency, concentratedness.

Metaphysical enlightenment can be boiled down to Eternalism, entheogen-induced. The efficient, effective interpretation of religious mythology is in terms of this Entheogen Eternalism.

Ontology isn’t king. Theory Rules.

The most compact, efficient, effective explanatory paradigm is Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism. It has the greatest explanatory power. It is the simplest explanation. That’s why the complete Egodeath theory compells commitment as a research paradigm.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7787 From: egodeath Date: 08/03/2016
Subject: Re: Suppression of entheogen basis of religion
Even if the Egodeath theory is true, is it useful and relevant? How useful and relevant is the Egodeath theory?

I lately differentiate practical enlightenment vs. metaphysical enlightenment. Words have flexible meaning. Here by ‘practical’, I mean for daily OSC conduct of life, not referring to practical for scholarship or the ASC.

The Egodeath theory is the most compact, useful, and relevant explanatory paradigm for scholarly R&D and for utilizing the loose cognitive binding state.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7788 From: egodeath Date: 08/03/2016
Subject: Re: Suppression of entheogen basis of religion
My role is not necessarily to prove claims. My role is to define specific claims for the Eternalism Egodeath theory.

The Egodeath theory makes no claims to provide practical enlightenment for self-improvement in daily conduct of life in the OSC.

That was my initial motivation in 1985-1987, to maximize and debug cross-time control integrity and to gain the expected full personal control of thinking, feeling, and action across time.

Then I took a detour 1988-1997 to define core metaphysical enlightenment.

Then I took a detour 1998-2016 to map that to religious mythology.

Now I could return to that expectation, now demoted to the question of “To what extent can metaphysical enlightenment give better personal control integrity and practical effectiveness in daily life?

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7789 From: egodeath Date: 08/03/2016
Subject: Re: Suppression of entheogen basis of religion
In 1985-1987, I had no particular desire or passion for metaphysical enlightenment; that was not what motivated me.

What I cared about deeply that motivated me to think and develop ideas, was gaining the expected practical control of my thinking and my actions across time, the ability to plan and do consistently with integrity, not self-conflict, dissonance, or friction.

I only desired metaphysical enlightenment as a seed core around which I would construct the desired thing, which was cross-time control integrity, and incidentally control of thinking and feeling.

Imagine in April 1987 I give me the finished Egodeath theory and I retain my pursuit of cross-time control integrity. Would I still focus on chasing that expected dream-promise, that gold? Or would I, like I did upon discovering the core theory in January 1988, turn my attention away from pursuing the low gold of cross-time control integrity (“worldly power”), focusing instead on the high gold of the Egodeath theory? I’d likely have a sudden decline in paying attention to mundane self-improvement and enjoyment, to propagate the Egodeath theory, which eclipses practical conduct of life in importance, interest, novelty, profundity, intellectual import, and excitement.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7791 From: egodeath Date: 08/03/2016
Subject: Re: Applying core enlightenment to daily thinking?
Metaphysical enlightenment is relevant to practical aspects of life, but not to daily conduct of life except in particular ways in particular lives. Interpretation of religion can affect daily life. Esoteric understanding gives immunization against exoteric religion.

There is some kind of applicability of metaphysical enlightenment to daily conduct of life in the ordinary state, but that overlap is not what we might expect it to be.

By many measures, including some practical measures, the Egodeath theory is tremendously relevant to life.


It is easier to list the specific ways in which metaphysical enlightenment is *not* applicable to daily conduct of life:

Metaphysical enlightenment will not make all your problems go away and give you maximal full control over your thinking, feeling, and actions across time consistently.

Metaphysical enlightenment is not a psychological panacea or a little yellow pill to help you through your busy day.

Metaphysical enlightenment is not like blissfully tripping out being high except without ever having to come back down.

Ram Dass said after his decades of intensive spiritual work, his neuroses have not decreased at all.

After my 1985-2016 30 years of perfect development of my perfect theory of metaphysical enlightenment, my practical psychological problems are the same as before, except I understand the limits of control better.

My understanding of religion and other topics has increased astronomically. I have a theory that changes the world but doesn’t change my practical ability of self-control in daily conduct of life.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7792 From: egodeath Date: 13/04/2016
Subject: Re: Intellectual autobiography & origins of Egodeath theory
Transcendent Knowledge podcast episode 1: Max Freakout interviews Cyber Disciple about his trajectory into the Egodeath theory. In-depth, on-topic.

https://cyberdisciple.wordpress.com/2016/04/06/transcendent-knowledge-podcast-ep-1/
Group: egodeath Message: 7793 From: egodeath Date: 16/04/2016
Subject: Environmental impact of Prohibition
Group: egodeath Message: 7794 From: egodeath Date: 21/04/2016
Subject: Re: 2015 International Drug Reform Conference, entheogen enlightenme
Today is the middle day of UNGASS 2016.

Re-legalize all psychoactives like in the 1800s, eliminate asset forfeiture, eliminate the drug schedules, eliminate enforcement/Prohibition squads, stop punishment for psychoactives, close prisons, release the drug war prisoners, stop spraying poison on crops.

— Michael Hoffman

#ungass2016
Group: egodeath Message: 7795 From: egodeath Date: 21/04/2016
Subject: Re: Best glass oil rig design
I proposed this best design idea. Snake on debranched tree.
Group: egodeath Message: 7796 From: egodeath Date: 21/04/2016
Subject: Cannabis as entheogen
Rather than the artificial UK hallucination that there is such a thing as “skunk” as distinct from cannabis, I propose an actual meaningful distinction: between ingesting cannabis via lungs versus stomach.

Hypothesis: Ingesting cannabis via stomach is entheogenic.

— Michael Hoffman (Egodeath.com), April 20, 2016
Group: egodeath Message: 7798 From: egodeath Date: 23/04/2016
Subject: The Egodeath theory vs. panacea expectations
The Egodeath theory vs. panacea expectations and marketing-promises

Recent books advocating no-free-will argue that society would be better. It’s a leading-edge hot topic. If we follow the inherent trajectory from entheogens, we naturally end up mostly in the OSC with mostly Possibilism, qualified by the powerful experiential perspective of a series of transient revealings of Eternalism in the ASC.

We do not end up naturally in a permanent altered state with thoroughgoing Eternalism perspective. Advocates of no-free-will have a brittle extremist model that we must choose Possibilism or Eternalism, a binary wholesale choice.

Speculating on the pros and cons of no-free-will for society is like speculating on whether enlightenment will solve all our problems in daily practical life and self-management. Or speculating on what would happen if we re-legalized.

Entheogen advocates speculate on what would happen to save the world and save the planet if society integrated visionary plants. We must recognize speculation as such. Prohibitionists constantly state as fact that the sky would fall if we stop ratcheting up Prohibition and stop allowing civil asset forfeiture and mass incarceration.

“We must sent the right message — ie escalate the WoD — or our youth will succumb and society will collapse; we need total war against this threat or else society will collapse. We need infinite weapons including spraying poison and driving growers into clearcutting the rainforest, to avert this crisis. Legalizing would cause the sky to fall.” Advocates of various positions put forth lots of conjecture, often stated as fact, about what would happen if.

The Egodeath theory brackets-off any speculative promises that entheogens and no-free-will/monopossibility are a panacea that will cure society and the planet and personal self-control management.

The proven benefit of the Egodeath theory is that it gives a degree of coherence and lots of explanatory power. Beyond that is marketing of conjectures.

Most entheogen advocates and most no-free-will advocates and most nonduality enlightenment advocates sell their position as a panacea. I am instead committed to *sound theory*, bracketed off from conjectured outcomes of universal complete assent to the Entheogenic Eternalism Egodeath theory and what the outcome and results of that assent would be.

The Egodeath theory is not motivated by pursuing conjectured outcomes, but rather is motivated by explanatory power and worldmodel coherence explaining what we perceive in the transient ASC.

I’m putting all focus on getting that right. Not promising that the world will be a better place, except I promise that the world will be a more conceptually coherent place.

In our long wish list to save society and the planet and personal management, I fulfill one particular wish: the wish for conceptual coherence and explanatory power.

I advocate re-legalizing like in the 1800s, but I’m not selling that by promising society will be saved, promising a grand vision for future society. The Egodeath theory is revolutionary as an explanatory paradigm — this does not imply the Egodeath theory will save society and the planet and fulfill our untrammelled wishes and expectations.

I work as an activist alongside advocates of enlightenment and relegalizing and no-free-will and ahistoricity, but without selling and marketing and promising the conjectured speculated practical benefits — I’m cautious and skeptical and somewhat pessimistic. Where success is guaranteed is in *explanatory power*, not outcomes for society and the planet and personal self-management/conduct of daily life.

Revelation promises whiter whites in perfected laundry, peace between the threatening lion and the lamb, justice, repairing the soul and world, and universal reconciliation. Fine visions and motivations. Sober cautious attitude needs to accompany the motivating vision.

What we can confidently celebrate now is coherent successful theory of the dynamics and trajectory of the loose cognitive state and theory explaining the history of the altered state in religion and culture.

We can celebrate the definite surge of drug policy reform and the rapid spread of ahistoricity, bringing conceptual coherence, such as explaining the lack of physical evidence for the existence of Christianity in the early centuries, and explaining the mushrooms in religious depictions throughout history.

I do not unreservedly celebrate the destruction of exoteric literalist Christianity.

Certainly Prohibition is a harm-maximizing fraud and must end. Problems will exist; the Egodeath theory and the explanatory enlightenment it brings is not a panacea and wish-fulfillment projection canvas.

— Michael
Group: egodeath Message: 7799 From: egodeath Date: 24/04/2016
Subject: Re: Intellectual autobiography & origins of Egodeath theory
Episode 2: Max Freakout’s trajectory into the Egodeath theory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyrqfBbc8Mc

Phase 1 of my development of the Egodeath theory focused on self-control limits in light of Minkowski/Parminides block time; metaperception; and loose mental construct association binding. 1985-1997. The technical core, without mythic metaphor.

Phase 2: history, myth, religion, metaphor regarding Phase 1 topics. 1998-2016
Group: egodeath Message: 7800 From: egodeath Date: 26/04/2016
Subject: Re: Intellectual autobiography & origins of Egodeath theory
Egodeath Theory and Rock

The Egodeath theory came up through Rock, within the 80s college band network 1982-1988.

The last part of my Phase 1, after the 1988 breakthrough, was mapping Rock lyrics to the Egodeath theory, early 1990s.

Bowie and Prince were notable before and during the creation of the Egodeath theory.

I saw Prince last year, he ROCKED.

I inherited an excellent Prince painting on my dorm wall 1986-1987, the dramatic time of the creation of the Egodeath theory. I have pics.

I made a good effects Special Prince Mix like the Residents’ Beatles mix. I have the double-speed master cassette.

We were initiated in a Space Oddity psychedelic oil light show graduation before high school in the legalization window of the late 70s bay area.

It was the high 80s, the Egodeath project:

lead-in starting such as Spring semester 1985 encounter group spiritual self-help ideas,

taking a productive new approach in writing and idea-development when my father died in Spring 1987,

climaxing Spring 1988.

Each of those are turning-points.

Lots of 60s, 70s, and 80s Rock, is the ground from which the Egodeath theory came up, electrical music engineering.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 7802 From: egodeath Date: 01/05/2016
Subject: Maximal drug policy reform, complete repeal of Prohibition
Maximal drug policy reform, complete repeal of Prohibition

Drugs are the vehicle of the Holy Spirit given by God, who makes people ingest them, or who hides himself from them.

Prohibitionists are now being put on trial and are recognized as a harmful, destructive, toxic menace to society.

Support, favor, pardon, compensate, and respect the victims of the WOD. Release, pardon, apologize, restore voting rights, help and favor the fraudulently accused and persecuted people.

Stop government involvement in drug regulation.

Eliminate the drug schedules.

End civil asset forfeiture.

The UN digs its heels in and refuses to do the action that Mexico has cried out for: stopthedrugwar.com

The UN did a coverup to hide any acknowledgment of the legalization revolution in formation all around the incorrigible UN dead-set on absolute Prohibition.

The falsely so-called consensus document of UNGASS 2016 says only one message: we refuse to quit Prohibition.

The UN refuses to acknowledge the revolution around them pressing in on them from all sides, coming from Washington and Colorado, and coming at them from a rapidly growing mainstream majority turning against Prohibition, demonization, and harm-maximization.

Mexico called the UN to meet sooner than 2019, in an emergency session to change the treaties, their interpretations and implementations to end the WOD in Mexico.

The UN consensus outcome document was delivered back to Mexico and sent out into a global dissensus.

The death-penalty-for-drugs nations produced this forced consensus document: we will persist in militarized harm maximization, and persection shall continue as official policy.

The UN refuses to acknowlege Mexico’s request for regime-change. The UN met to cover-up Mexico’s call for them to meet. The UN refuses to permit a debate on the Prohibition treaties or acknowledge the increasing demand for debate and for repealing Prohibition and for harm reduction.

The UNGASS 2016 official finale song and dance — the three days of 4/20 week after a year of preparing their coverup of the dissent — their rehearsed performance of “everyone agrees that Prohibition is good”, was delivered to widespread and increasing dissent inside and outside the walls. The UN inner circle perpetuators of death penalty and harm maximization are being fought against from all sides.

The more intransigent the UN becomes, the more radicalized people and groups are quickly becoming, to not only reform Prohibition, but eliminate the current regime entirely, get rid of the schedules, legalize everything, completely repeal Prohibition, roll it back to where it didn’t exist, in 1850. Prohibition is toxic and must be eliminated.

The treaties are harmful. Prohibition is harmful. The world is increasingly rejecting the treaties and repealing Prohibition.

Every factor is increasingly pointing to the full elimination of Prohibition, re-legalizing everything.

Any change would be better than Prohibition, which is harm maximization.

‘Decriminalization’ means no change; continuing the official escalation of Prohibition.

The government cannot be trusted to regulate; they have forfeited any say or involvement.

The opposite of Prohibition, taken to the maximum, is the most beneficial. That is the consensus outcome of half the world after the UN presented the consensus outcome document to Mexico: completely repealing Prohibition is required now, and all the more so, since the UN treaties refuse to stop ratcheting-up Prohibition.

The UN policy has become
the death-penalty-for-drugs nations’ policy.

The UN restated their official consensus position statement, omitting the demonizing 1998 slogan “a drug-free world, we can do it”.

Legalization, complete repeal of Prohibition, is the legitimate and right way.

The government should not be involved in psychoactives regulation and has no authority on it; they have forfeited their credibility. It is wrong to disparage substances.

The government is corrupt and malicious and has no authority to regulate or meddle or advise or be involved in any way.

Prohibitionists forfeited everything, all credibility, all legitimacy, and are revealed as criminals and con artists, purely harmful, malicious people attacking others under the pretense of helping society.

Prohibitionists owe reparation to the victims of Prohibition.

Eliminate the officials and organizations who are fighting certain drugs, particularly cannabis.

We didn’t need government regulation of psychoactive drugs in 1850; from the beginning of time until late modernity, the world didn’t need Prohibition.

Prohibition pretends to be about health, but that is a lie, a con, a fraud, a put-on. Prohibition is motivated instead by illegitimate profit and by racism and to suppress anti-war people, by Nixon through his drug schedules.

Past and future use of entheogens is set in stone. Controller X made Prohibition and repeal happen at this point in the frozen timeless Eternalism block, temporarily closing and then opening the door to mushroom-revealed Eternalism.

The more the UN Prohibitionists refuse to acknowledge the revolutionary rejection of Prohibition by the nations, the louder and more insistent and widespread are the demands for complete repeal of Prohibition.

Radical drug policy reform, complete repeal of Prohibition, has become the mainstream position, against the Prohibitionists, the sham now exposed. The Prohibitionists are recognized as the real enemy, by the mainstream.

The calls for complete repeal of Prohibition are quickly increasing, while the UN reaffirms their WOD death penalty escalation and harm maximization.

The UNGASS 2016 consensus outcome document confirms that the UN policy is harm maximization, death penalty, demonization, and environmental harm.

A Prohibition-free world by UNGASS 2019, we can do it!

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 7803 From: egodeath@yahoogroups.com Date: 01/05/2016
Subject: File – EgodeathGroupCharter.txt
The Egodeath Yahoo group is a Weblog sent out by Michael Hoffman,
covering the cybernetic theory of ego death and ego transcendence,
including:

o Block-universe determinism/Fatedness, the closed
and preexisting future, tenseless time, free will as illusory, the
holographic universe, and predestination and Reformed theology.

o Cognitive science, mental construct processing, mental models,
ontological idealism, contemporary metaphysics of the continuant
self, cybernetic self-control, personal control agency, moral agency,
and self-government.

o Zen satori, short-path enlightenment, and Alan Watts;
transpersonal psychology, Ken Wilber, and integral theory.

o Entheogens and psychedelic drugs, mystery religions, mythic
metaphor and allegorical encoding, the mystic altered state, mystic
and religious experiencing, visionary states, religious rapture, and
Acid Rock mysticism.

o Loss of control, self-control seizure, cognitive instability, and
psychosis and schizophrenia.


— Michael Hoffman
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath
http://www.egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 7804 From: egodeath Date: 08/05/2016
Subject: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
Episode 3

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ykgeO6CD6RM

– The uptake of a radical new paradigm
– The various established explanatory paradigms within popular psychedelia
– The psychotherapy model of entheogen use
– New Age nonduality theories such as Martin Ball’s entheological paradigm, and its limitations
– Neuroscientific studies of entheogens such as recent research from Robin Carhart-Harris
– Physicalist and idealist perspectives on entheogens
– Different versions of no-freewill
– Altered state revision of implicit assumption frameworks
– Psychedelics as “assumption revealers”
– Plato’s cave allegory and its application to altered state phenomenology
– The effect of the altered state on ancient Greek culture
– Interpreting classical literature in light of altered state dynamics
– Carl Ruck’s writing on ancient culture and entheogens
– Minimal, moderate and maximal theories of entheogen history
– Botanical identification of entheogenic plants in ancient culture
– Various writers in entheogenic history of religion such as Scott Teitsworth, Clark Heinrich, Dan Merkur and Gordon Wasson
– Academic self-reinforcing feedback loops and resistance to radical paradigm revision
– Limitations of John Allegro’s entheogenic theory of Christianity
– Luther Martin’s book ‘Hellenistic religion’ which emphasises heimarmene as a key concern of ancient religion
– Over-emphasis on Eleusis in academic writings on ancient mystery religions
– Michael Rinella’s book ‘Pharmakon’
– The entheogen-diminishing strategy of relegating entheogens to footnotes and introductions
– The importance of placing entheogens front and centre in historical study
– Luke Timothy Johnson’s entheogen diminishment in his writing/speaking on Christianity
– William Alston’s book on religious experiencing ‘Perceiving God’
– Alston’s concept of ‘over-riders’ which invalidate religious experiences
– Tom Hatsis’ writings on entheogen history and witchcraft
– The distinction between Michael Hoffman’s writing style and the theoretical content
– Academic scholarship vs. Internet scholaship
– Blindness to prohibitionist assumptions among drug policy reform activists
– Hatsis’ dismissal of entheogen theory of Christianity
– Hatsis’ study of scolpolamine plants in ancient witchcraft practises
– Drug policy reform activism and outrageous anti-drugs propaganda
Group: egodeath Message: 7806 From: egodeath Date: 26/05/2016
Subject: Re: The Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence
‘Entheogen, spiritual, mystical, religious, God’ – the problem with these words or constructs is not that they are artificial, arbitrary, culturally constructed, or imported/ inserted/ overlaid.

Rather, understanding of these terms is too vague, prior to having the Egodeath theory.

When a person ingests cognitive looseners, the person often reports religious experiencing — truly and rightly, but too vaguely, until understanding the Egodeath theory.

The mind recognizes religious experiencing, upon switching from Possibilism to the Eternalism mental model of time, self, and control.

Labelling this experiential mode as ‘religious’ is no more arbitrary than labelling this experience as ‘ego death’.

Without the Egodeath theory (the Eternalism/Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence), the term ‘ego death’ is vague and indirect, and people debate what ‘ego death’ refers to.

There is nothing culturally fabricated about ego death (properly identified), or about religious experiencing (properly identified).

Ego death, religious entheogenic experiencing, the mystic-state cybernetic revelation (unveiling), is a real, specific dynamic capability or function of the mind, regarding personal control power, but what ‘religious experiencing’ or ‘entheogenic experiencing’ refers to must be properly specified and identified: personal control power reconfiguration in the shift from Possibilism to the Eternalism mental model of time, self, and control.

The mind has the potential to switch from Possibilism to the Eternalism mental model of time, self, and control.

The mind can have either of these two mental models and experiential modes: Possibilism and Eternalism.

When the mind switches from the Possibilism mental model and experiential mode to the Eternalism mental model and experiential mode, the mind (informally yet intensely) recognizes this as the shift into religious experiencing, correctly labelling Eternalism consciousness as entheogen, God consciousness, spirituality, religious experiencing.

Hallmarks: cessation of feeling of originating control from the local control agency.

Feeling externally controlled.

Feeling cybernetically disempowered, centering control around external factors (that which is the source of control-thoughts).

Dependency of local, Possibilism-shaped agency’s control-power on a more underlying, overarching source of control power.

The forced, necessary requirement (recognized fact of dependency and epiphenomenal illusion) of local control depending on more ultimate transpersonal control — local control has to consciously trust in the transcendent source of control, because the latter is manifestly (when tested and inspected) the basis, source, origin of local control power.

Critics of the supposedly culturally constructed and arbitrary language of ‘entheogen, mystic, religious, God, spiritual’ should not dismiss these terms, but need to accurately identify their referent as {the shift of experiential understanding of personal control power, upon changing from Possibilism to Eternalism in the loose cognitive binding state induced by psychedelics}.

— Michael Hoffman
Copyright (C) 2015 Egodeath. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 7808 From: egodeath Date: 26/05/2016
Subject: Re: The Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence
Critics say that it is arbitrary to describe psychedelics as entheogenic/mystic/religious/spiritual.

In fact psychedelics’ main effect is switching the mind from Possibilism to Eternalism, as a mental model and experiential mode of thinking and feeling.

This switch from Possibilism to Eternalism is the real referent of religion, mysticism, and spirituality.

In fact, therefore, psychedelics’ main effect is producing religious experiencing, in that psychedelics’ main effect is switching the mind from Possibilism to Eternalism, and the switch from Possibilism to Eternalism is the main referent of religion, mysticism, and spirituality.

Entheogens reveal God or the divine, which specifically means that psychedelics produce the shift from Possibilism thinking and experiencing, to Eternalism thinking and experiencing, including ego death, loss of the sense of locally originating personal control power, and unity specifically regarding control-power origination.

The source of a particular mind’s control-thoughts is experienced and recognized as the same as the source of every mind’s control-thoughts.

When a mind is in Eternalism consciousness, or God-type consciousness, that mind perceives that it is firmly connected with the same source of control-thoughts that drives all minds, including crazy and destructive minds.

Individual minds are forced to think and do and feel, what the source of all thoughts has caused and pre-created them to be doing and feeling and thinking, at all points in each person’s worldline frozen in spacetime.

The Egodeath theory directly and explicitly (per modern Science) expresses and identifies these dynamics, unlike perennial philosophy, which is indirect and filled with arbitrary noise such as superficial correspondences taken literally.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7810 From: egodeath Date: 26/05/2016
Subject: Re: The Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence
People try to pit reason against religion.

High reason is high religion.

Reason needs to be informed by the altered state, of loose cognitive binding.

Religion comes from psychedelics, which produce a shift from Possibilism to Eternalism.

Religion proper is informed and produced by the altered state.

Low reason is against low religion such as literalism.

What’s needed is recognition of high religion by high reason.

Altered-state reason recognizes the referent of altered-state religion.

Sam Harris advocates no-free-will and pits it against religion; he failed to recognize high religion, which asserts or reports no-free-will.

Degraded Science is pitted against degraded religion; neither is informed by the altered state.

People start in the OSC; they first think about both Science and religion in terms of the initial state of consciousness, which is the Possibilism state of consciousness.

Later, some minds receive entheogens and develop the Eternalism state of consciousness, which recognizes high religion; the result is high Science, Loosecog Science, rightly scientific when understanding is direct and explicit about transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism.

Psychedelics are directly about transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism, and are indirectly about religion, God, mysticism, entheos, and spirituality; the latter terms are indirect. The Egodeath theory is direct.

The New Testament mocks exoteric literalism, using the idea of veiling understanding and then selectively revealing/unveiling the actual meaning and referent of religious myth and metaphor.

Posing a riddle and revealing the resolution.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7812 From: egodeath Date: 26/05/2016
Subject: Re: The Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence
1. A mind is made to ingest psychedelics (an event in frozen spacetime with preexisting future).

2. Psychedelics cause loose cognitive binding.

3. Loose cognitive binding produces Eternalism-consciousness.

4. Eternalism-consciousness is labelled as ‘religion’, ‘mysticism’, ‘spirituality’, ‘entheos’.

5. High, esoteric religion is taken by non-experienced minds in the low, exoteric sense. But now step 3 is developed per Science together with explaining step 4, preventing that reductionist misunderstanding of ‘religion’ as low, exoteric religion.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7813 From: egodeath Date: 26/05/2016
Subject: Re: The Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence
American modern rational scientific atheist Buddists/meditators are calling for Buddhism stripped of the superstitious irrational hocus-pocus of karma-and-rebirth. But with misunderstanding; failure to recognize 2-state meaning- switching; failure to recognize metaphor describing entheogen-induced transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism.

The goal of right-mindedness is to stop being reborn *into egoic, Possibilism thinking* after each *altered-state egodeath* experience.

The goal is to retain a clear, mature, full mental model of that which is revealed in the loose cognitive state. Not to stop literal rebirth after literal death.

The goal of entheogenic meditation is to end egoic, Possibilism-premised expectations of full personal control power.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7814 From: egodeath Date: 26/05/2016
Subject: Re: The Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence
Entheogens produce religion rightly understood; high mysticism; esoteric spirituality.

Entheogens directly produce the shift from Possibilism to Eternalism.

When ‘religion’ is mistaken to mean low, exoteric religion, it’s wrong to characterize psychedelics as entheogenic.

When ‘religion’ is recognized as high, esoteric religion, it is correct, though vague and indirect or roundabout, to characterize psychedelics as entheogenic.

Psychedelics are psycholytic (loosening of cognitive binding) and through cognitive loosening, psychedelics are directly Eternalism-producing.

By virtue of producing Eternalism-consciousness, psychedelics are, indirectly speaking, entheogenic.

Psychedelics are the source of religion, which is an indirect way of saying that psychedelics produce Eternalism-consciousness, including timeless noncontrol (that is, a transformation of the fundamental assumption-set about personal control power).

Religion proper — high, esoteric, original, source religion — is Eternalism-consciousness, which is induced by psychedelics.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7815 From: egodeath Date: 26/05/2016
Subject: Re: The Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence
Would-be rational Western modern Buddhists are really wanting high, Esoteric Buddhism, rejecting low, exoteric Buddhism.

This hot current debate (looking for authentic Buddhism without magical supernatural superstitious thinking) is resolved by the Egodeath theory, which explains the relationship between exoteric, misunderstood religion (in all religions) and esoteric, recognized religion.

The entheogen eternalism Egodeath theory explains Literalist OSC Possibilism in relation to Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism.

Books by Stephen Bachelor et al.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7820 From: egodeath Date: 26/05/2016
Subject: Re: The Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence
Group: egodeath Message: 7822 From: egodeath Date: 27/05/2016
Subject: Advantage of psilocybin capsules over LSD
Short duration, combined with redosing, to quickly reach the ideal cognitive loosening and stay at that level and then rapidly descend to tightcog when desired. Like ancient mixed wine usage.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7823 From: egodeath Date: 27/05/2016
Subject: Re: Advantage of psilocybin capsules over LSD
Thread: Advantage of psilocybin capsules over LSD
Group: egodeath Message: 7824 From: egodeath Date: 27/05/2016
Subject: Re: The Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence
Osto presents a limited view from within dominant assumption-sets — he provides a study limited from within the conventional debate between conventional Western Buddhism and conventional psychedelic spirituality.

The Egodeath theory originates from outside that convention. Thus incommensurate paradigms; not to say those conventional debaters couldn’t understand the Egodeath theory, but rather, their debate positions fail to engage with my third option.

Similarly, the debate between impoverished (ordinary-state) atheism vs. impoverished (ordinary-state) religion: that debate has little to contribute, and the Egodeath theory stands outside that limited domain of debate.

Psychedelics vs. Buddhism, and atheism vs. religion, are failed initial theories, that fall before the entheogen Eternalism Cybernetics Egodeath theory. Those debates appear to offer two alternatives, but really, each debate amounts to a little cage: the unimaginative cage of psychedelics vs. Buddhism, and of atheism vs. religion. Neither has any traction to critique the Egodeath theory.


Overestimating amount of psychedelics experiencing: few writers on religion or psychedelics have a significant amount of loosecog experiencing. Almost all who write on the subject are dabblers, beginners. Benny Shanon is not a dabbler. A few mushroom and MDMA experiences barely qualifies a writer as a beginner. Most books about psychedelics are written by dabblers interviewing rank beginners.

Copyright (C) 2015 Egodeath. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 7826 From: egodeath Date: 28/05/2016
Subject: Profit motive for suppressing entheogens
Suppressing entheogens is in the interest of many, various parties and industries.

It’s in the financial interest of the Buddhist church to suppress and deny that meditation came from entheogens.

It’s in the interest of the Catholic church to suppress and deny that Christianity came from entheogens.

It’s in the interest of the American meditation industry to suppress and deny that meditation came from entheogens.

False authorities profit by the strategy of selling placebo ineffective meditation in place of actual effective historically grounded visionary plants, which are the actual source of meditation and enlightenment.

Demonize and de-legitimize the real, effective approach to meditation and spirituality — visionary plants — and perpetually sell people inert, ineffective, empty promises that are never fulfilled, and sell the never-fulfilled, substitute promise of religious fulfillment to them in place of the effective original source of religion — visionary plants.

Drug-free meditation serves to prevent enlightenment and transcendent fulfilment — psychological maturation and completion of transformation — in order for false authorities to profit.

Not “back to the texts” per the Reformation, but rather, *back to the plants*, per the real reformation, the Entheogenic Reformation.

The *moderate* entheogen model of religion serves to block the truth and prop up a false, substitute story that profits the pretended authorities on religion. The maximal entheogen theory of religion breaks that bogus profit model; which theory, is political and economic.

The Establishment status quo is propped up on a foundation of lies: the pretence that entheogens are a mere simulation, or are at best an alternative to authentic historical origins of religious experiencing.

Entheogens are *not* an alternative, semi-legitimate means of religious enlightenment and psychological fulfillment; entheogens *are the* authentic, efficacious means of religious enlightenment and psychological fulfillment.

Drug-free meditation is inauthentic and ineffective — and is a fraudulent means for false authorities to profit.

The tradition of artificial substitute religion obscures and puts entheogens off-limits, to profit from a false history of how religion comes about.

Sell the evil (delusion-sustaining) moderate entheogen paradigm to people, in such a way that while you relucantly admit that psychedelics are effective like the promised potential of your artificial religion product, frame psychedelics as artificial and illegitimate.

Trick people into taking as granted that no true religious person used psychedelics for enlightenment, moral regeneration, or enlightenment. Where evidence proves that a religious person used visionary plants, treat this as a bad data point that doesn’t count.

Sell books by striving to diminish the use of psychedelics in religion and Plhilosophy.

The Establishment, invested in the strategy of lies and suppression of entheogen history and efficacy, will pay you, like they paid Letcher, to write incoherent, self-contradictory, and specious arguments, only permitting bits of evidence to be discussed, badly, then pretend to have debunked the overall entheogen theory of religion.

Then when your falsehoods and flimsy arguments are exposed, quietly and privately admit this, while continuing to sell your book that’s a heap of weak arguments, paid by the Establishment press.

It’s in the financial interest of the paper products industry to suppress and deny that hemp is a better source.

It’s in the financial interest of the pharmaceutical industry to suppress and deny that cannabis cures many ailments.

It’s in the financial interest of the pharmaceutical industry to suppress and deny that laudanum and simple natural poppy extract taken via stomach have a long history and are effective.

Follow the money, trace and recognize the conflict of interest, track the incentives to profit from suppressing the truth.

Who profits by falsely demonizing psychoactives? Who pays, as an investment, to prop up Prohibition? What industries profit, by lying, for Prohibition for Profit? Who funds the fight against repealing Prohibition?

Religious posers as authorities profit by claiming that they, rather than visionary plants, provide religion (and do so by people perpetually giving them money).

Tricycle magazine, Zig Zag Zen, Altered States: Buddhism and Psychedelic Spirituality in America, the Gnosis issue on psychedelics, and the latest pseudo-enlightened books about psychedelics, sell in a way that’s profitable to Establishment interests, by permitting the acknowledgment that visionary plants are dimly like religion and meditation, but severely limiting and containing, circumscribing and quarantining, this acknowledgment.

Only permit writings that stay within the boundaries of the entheogen-diminishing moderate entheogen model of religion. Prevent writings that escape that cage and recognize the true, maximal entheogen theory of religion.

Prostitutes all, selling their integrity by the strategy of displacing entheogens, these parties use a strategy of substituting themselves and their fabricated ineffective products, selling indulgences and suppressing the natural products that actually deliver the promised effects and originated the effects.

Demonize psychoactives in order to fabricate false, harmful industries of militarized policing-for-profit, imprisonment-for-profit, destruction of other lives for your own crooked profit, an income based on lying and destruction.

There is an enormous difference between the moderate vs. maximal entheogen models of religion. These are two opposed models of history and the world and of the nature and source of religion.

Saying psychedelics are “like” meditation and religious transformation, is the opposite worldmodel as recognizing that psychedelics are the *source* of meditation and religious transfiguration — financial profits are affected.

Drug-free religion and meditation are evil — delusion-sustaining — when they deny and suppress their entheogen origin.

Authentic meditation is entheogen meditation or at least acknowledge the efficacious entheogen origin of meditation.

Revealing the truth of the entheogen origin of Christianity is of ultimate importance, but also crucial for pop Western spirituality is revealing the truth of the entheogen origin of meditation.

Entheogens are not “like” meditation; meditation *comes from* entheogens.

Meditation does not come from drug-free meditation; that’s a profoundly false, and delusion-sustaining origin story — the great entheogen cover-up, a strategy pursued by many parties, who profit by selling a phony, ersatz, fraudulent, and harmful substitute for the actual source of religion and enlightenment: visionary plants.

It’s a universal strategy of profit through substitution of ways that promise but never deliver, in place of the way that delivers on the promises and is the source of religion — visionary plants.

Psychedelics are not easy, cheating, a shortcut, an unnatural way to steal enlightenment. Drug-free religion is the false, fraudulent, ineffective, phony, evil, ersatz substitute, that serves to prevent religious enlightenment while endlessly profiting the false authorities.

The revolutionary Reformation is the maximal entheogen theory of religion.

What stands in the way of Reformation is the effort to contain and suppress the actual origin and efficacious means, psychedelics — that effort is Zig Zag Zen and the narrow range of views permitted, various degrees of grudgingly damning entheogens with faint praise, debating whether the artificial simulation provided by psychedelics should be accepted or not, and shutting out any thinking in terms of {religion comes from psychedelics}.

How many “enlightened” writings on psychedelics consider whether religion comes from visionary plants, as the normal, grand front entrance, relegating drug-free means as merely a side door or back-door entrance?

Thinking is gradually heading in that direction. At the top of that hill already is a mansion waiting, built, completed: the Egodeath theory.

One means of accessing religious consciousness is illegitimate and ineffective, a simulation, ersatz: the “anything but psychedelics” model of religion.

Psychedelics are not a simulation of meditation; rather, drug-free meditation is a simulation of entheogens.

This revelation stands against the many artificial, fraudulent industries that are based on a foundation of lies and substitution, replacement of entheogens by profitable false promises and false history, the tradition of lying for profit, substitution-for-profit, the profitable replacement of efficacious entheogens by inefficacious and inauthentic approaches that never deliver and are therefore ongoing sources of profit — selling indulgences, in place of the genuine Eucharist which regenerates and fulfills.

— Michael Hoffman
Copyright (C) 2015 Egodeath. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 7827 From: egodeath Date: 28/05/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0YMy392UXE&feature=em-subs_digest

Cutting edge conversation between Max Freakout and Cyber Disciple. In this episode Max and Cyb talk about Martin Ball’s entheological paradigm – his model of entheogenic ego transcendence, and how it relates to the ego death theory. Topics covered include:

A review of the various explanatory paradigms in pop-psychedelia

Martin Ball’s various activities, and his attitude of public openness towards entheogens

Ball’s entheological paradigm, its relation to religion and new age systems of thought

Ball’s critiques of entheogen scholars such as Terence Mckenna, his opinions about Mckenna’s 2012 prophecy and reification of DMT machine elves

Ball’s concept of spatial non-duality and its relation to block universe determinism/eternalism and cybernetics

Ball’s concept of energy and its relation to loosened cognition
Ball’s concepts of “ego”

Mental representation and perceiving the true nature of reality in the altered state

Propositional/epistemological truth compared to accurate modelling

Michael Hoffman’s theory of dual mental worldmodels

Cultivating mindful states of awareness

Martin Ball’s entheogenic yoga postures

Ken Wilber’s non-entheogenic model of non-duality

Expectations of what enlightenment ought to be

Potential for disappointment with altered state eternalistic enlightenment

Indigenous shamanistic interpretations of entheogens and their potential to heal or benefit

Ego-as-agent and ego-as-awareness
Platonist philosophy and its relation to the ego death theory

Martin Ball’s treatment of control loss and bad trips

Pros and cons of smoking tryptamines instead of oral ingestion

Ramifications of Martin Ball’s excessive focus on 5-meo-dmt

Inaccuracy of scientific claims about DMT being present in the brain
Intellectual commitment to the entheological paradigm

Ball’s lack of metaphor-savviness

Meaning of letting go or surrendering in the altered state

Ball’s hands-on entheogenic therapy sessions


https://cyberdisciple.wordpress.com

Begins with a review of the typical paradigms in contemporary pop psychedelia.

Main content of the episode is a critique of Martin Ball’s Entheological Paradigm as representative of New Age psychedelic spirituality.
Group: egodeath Message: 7828 From: egodeath Date: 28/05/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
Control, rather than unity, is the heart of enlightenment and ego death and mental worldmodel transformation.

The necessary proper center of the scientific, rational, efficient model of ego transcendence is control, not unity. A theory centered on unity is unstable and premature.


Sacrifice is of control assumptions.
Sacrifice is central.

Controller x makes the mind sacrifice; the center of action-initiation is the divine, not the agent/puppet.

You are rescued by you adopting repentence – but the driver of this action of sacrifice is {that which creates/controls all control-thinking}.

The sacred meal sacrifice-affirmation banquet party is initiated by the god, not by the awakened follower.


No-free-will is experienced and is directly related to control power. No-free-will is found across religion, psychology, and philosophy. Unity is a rare topic.

Knowledge of good and evil is control agent relevant. Moral schemes are for control. Enlightenment is knowledge of egoic control thinking (Possibilism and egoic moral control punishment-threats and rewards) and transcendent rethinking of the moral control model.

Newbies experience (spatial) unity, oldhands experience control loss/ limitations/ constraints/ sacrifice.

Mental transformation isn’t forced by unity, but by control dynamics/ disproof/ failure/ emergency/ crisis/ seizure/panic.

Control-overpowering is the heart of Mitrhras bull sacrifice & figure of crucified king/ controller/ steersman, Dionysus’ boat steersman follower.

Acid-inspired Rock seeks to reflect the most intense experiencing: control-loss, not unity sensation.

We are, first and foremost, control agents. Ego death is the making-fail of control. Ego death is not caused by unity consciousness. The beginner’s initial experience of unity leads to subsequent profoundly problematized control.

Trusting (recognizing the source of control-thoughts) and surrender is not about unity, but about the foundation of personal control power.


Martin Ball glorifies 5-meo-dmt and hasn’t used lsd. Unlike acid-rock lyricists who ultimately report on the control-loss panic enlightenment shock.

Mythic imagery depicts control loss, above the concommitant rock-universe unity experience and mode of mental worldmodel.

Trembling transformation occurs by threatening control, by learning how to trip up and make control fail, not by mere unity sensation.

Unity sensation is at the threshold of control-preservation panic and attraction, seduction.

The strange attactor leading to fascinating death and reconfiguration is potent control-death, not impotent unity sensation. Unity-focus is a substitute for control-failure and transformation.

Theory of religion centered on unity protects and sustains delusion and Possibilism-thinking. Control dynamics reveal Eternalism, causing the mythological classical described effects, and mental model transformation.

Unity experiencing causes little mental model transformation. Control failure causes the deep transformation described by religious myth.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7829 From: egodeath Date: 28/05/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
Ball mis-leads people in that he leaves them, like Wilber and drug-free meditation, vulnerable and unstable, without a durable, clear, specific (scientific) model to reconcile the control-limit realization.

Woe to the advanced tripper who is only armed with Wilber and Ball — they are irrelevant and unhelpful when it is time to sacrifice control-assumptions and adopt the classic innate transcendent Eternalism control-assumptions.

Those writers are not wrong, so much as halting prematurely, and inadequate as the requisite, stabilizing guides to mental-model reconfiguration.

The Egodeath theory recognizes in religious historical writings the depiction of the control threat and the nature of {being made to sacrifice control-assumptions}.

The Egodeath theory unlocks the wealth of religious descriptions of encountering Eternalism, noncontrol, metaperception, loose cognitive binding, and cybernetic death and reconfiguration.

Trembling, seizure, control death, sacrifice, and rescue from control-harm — Ball provides vague “trust”, surrender, and unity — true so far as his explanations go, but falling well short of advanced psychedelic experiencing and asking the crux of problematizing questions, a passionate pursuit of ecstatic shock and rapture, the taking and overpowering of the control-thought-receiver by the source of all control-thoughts.

Ball and all are halfway there, at best; providing a preliminary setup, but not arriving at the real full-fledged, explicitly explained dynamics of mental-model transformation in the loose cognitive association binding state, which is induced by psychedelics.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7830 From: egodeath Date: 28/05/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
Bob Daisley’s Diary of a Madman song order starts with unity experiencing placed in the beginner stage, with no-free-will, and noncontrol puppethood in the later, advanced peak stage.

Entheogen knowledge or theory is immature, outside the Egodeath theory. Ball is a beginner-to-intermediate acting as the guide for beginners. His theory of surrender and trust is inarticulate and vague, though correct and useful for a crude, little-developed rescue or salvific life-preserver – he provides minimal life preserver.

Knowing to trust per Ball, you’ll survive but not comprehend the dynamics of relying consciously in the uncontrollable source of preexisting control-thoughts. Nor leverage religion’s description of sacrifice, stone, king, tree, snake, conversion, gateway, prayer.


Watching my body disappear into the crowd

Destiny planned out
The little doll is you
Group: egodeath Message: 7832 From: egodeath Date: 29/05/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
From Unity Possibilism upon initial trips (start of Side 1):
Watching my body
Disappear into the crowd
You don’t need a ticket to fly with me
I’m free, yeah

To Noncontrol Eternalism upon furthur trips (start of Side 2):
Destiny planned out
Nowhere to run
Your fate is in his hands
Your time has come
You’ll live to his command
I’m warning you
The worst is yet to come
Your kind of troubles
Running deeper than the sea
When it’s your time I wonder how you’ll do
You broke the rules
You’ve been a fool
The little doll is you

The current ill-informed fad of entheogenic *unity* experience, with the barest vague note of requiring “trust and surrender” without real explanation, is a sign of inexperience, beginner to intermediate level, sophomores leading freshmen, lacking the authority of full mature experience, of full mental development restoring a new stability.

Ball is a false authority, just as meditators with decades invested in simulated cargo-cult imitative meditation lack authority — not yet having put personal control on trial and discovered how to trip up control and seduce it into climactic failure leading to control-power death and rebirth in new, eternalist configuration.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7833 From: egodeath Date: 29/05/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
A benefit of full entheogenic initiation is completed mental maturation, full psychological development: the ability to be stable and enter into the loose cognitive state while retaining stability while demonstrating the ability to steer in and out of personal control instability.

Analogy: the trusting wife submitting to being overpowered. Ariadne peacefully trusting Dionysus to steer the chariot in the wedding procession victory triumph. Ancient conceptions of s*x and marriage and birth were heavily shaped by entheogen cybernetic loosecog Eternalism analogies.

The mind that is not fully developed cannot pass through this gate, fails to meet the required conditions, is not allowed to banquet in peace and stability, but is in strife, kicked out of the walled gated garden banquet party by control-turmoil, battling against the mind’s own foundation source of control-power.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7834 From: egodeath Date: 29/05/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
Religious metaphor mythology analogy description, when misread per Literalist OSC Possibilism, misleads and hinders.

Religious metaphor mythology analogy description, when read per Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism, amplifies and clarifies.

Prohibition is samsara is Possibilism, the illusion of nonunity separate control agents with the power of steering into the open multipossibilty future.

Prohibition blocks the bursting of childish thinking. The result is virgin adults, developmentally stunted childish adults who think as a child (noninitiate), retaining the immature, Possibilism delusion.

Repeal of Prohibition is nirvana is Eternalism. Snakes embedded in rock. Replacing the epiphenomenal illusion of autonomous control by recognition of a pair of distinct interrelated cybernetic functions: the local control-thought receiver, and the veiled uncontrollable source of control-thoughts, that which created the spacetime block including control-thoughts.

Semele wanted Zeus to reveal himself to her. He revealed his power, perceiving his power killed her power, and Semele gave birth to Dionysus, a new model steersman paradigm.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7835 From: egodeath Date: 29/05/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
The Egodeath theory explains religious mythology.

Religious mythology corroborates the Egodeath theory.

The Egodeath theory and religious mythology elucidate each other.

The ability of the Egodeath theory to make sense of religious mythology corroborates the Egodeath theory.

I first received the riddles of mythology upon reading Ken Wilber’s Up from Eden around 1987. There is a little religious mythology in my initial drafts for the Journal of Transpersonal Psychology in 1988 and in my 1997 summary at Principia Cybernetica.

JTP should publish one of my 1988 drafts of my main article, fulfilling resolution. My snakes demolish Wilber’s snakes.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7836 From: egodeath Date: 29/05/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
Per Maslow, the mind’s highest appetite or drive is self-transcendence.

The Egodeath theory provides this benefit: the most efficient way to self-transcendence, the highest-level fulfilment, fully efficient fulfilment of the mind’s highest-level drive, direct fulfilment of the mind’s drive for self-transcendence.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7837 From: egodeath Date: 29/05/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
Neurosubstitution and Neuroreductionism

It is a certain *kind* of reductionism (as with Martin Ball) to mis-indentify beginner-to-intermediate-level phenomenology (nondual unity, with the added inarticulate ‘shadow’ + ‘surrender’ epicyclic corrections) with advanced-level phenomenology (noncontrol Eternalism seizure, battling dragon gating access to treasure demanding the sacrifice of the maiden princess, the ruler’s childness).

The full developmental cycle is *reduced* to the first half of the developmental cycle. A truncation type of reductionism.


James Kent Neuroreductionist? James Kent’s PIT Psychedelic Information Theory defines a certain blend of cognitive, neuroscience, and the altered state.

PIT is a heap of psychedelics-focused neurowhatever with a decorative dash of cognition; experience-description like Shanon Antipodes. His focus on neuro makes for underattention to cognitive phenomenology.

I weave together my specialized optimized custom lexicon with shared standard common lexicon. My ‘mental construct processing’ & ‘loose cognitive binding’ + our ‘cog sci’ = ‘loose cognitive science’.

Between neurowhatever and cogsci,
a useful bridge is Thagard’s network node modelling + the Egodeath theory’s mental construct processing & loose cognitive binding (loose cognitive science, cognitive psychology, philosophy of mind (with the altered state added), cognitive phenomenology (Shanon includes ASC). Thagard’s contrast of neurocomputing vs. nodal modelling.

My model from early 1987 is neutral/ flexible/ agnostic regarding representation-nodes vs. distributed: mental construct association matrixes. My approach circumvents that distinction at issue, by identifying a more directly, experientially relevant conceptual construct: mental construct processing (MCP), including loose cognitive binding.

Thagard as bridge between the cogni vs. neuro paradigms:

Cognitive science
Thagard’s modelling
Neurocomputing/neuroscience

Where people ought to be thinking largely (if not entirely) in terms of cognitive phen and mental construct association & representation networks, dynamic mental-construct association matrixes, they substitute writing in terms of neural networks. Reduction, distortion, a proxy subject.

Neuro has its place, in multistate studies, but should not covertly substitute for the direct modelling of cognition. The Egodeath theory doesn’t draw from Neuroscience, but is close to CogSci.

The least off-base approach is CogSci. It doesn’t take too many fixes to enable CogSci to fit the Egodeath theory. Neuroscience requires heavy modification, to link to the Egodeath theory.

The Neurofoo paradigm/framework should not lead away from and mis-lead, should not serve to shut out and avoid the cognitive representation/ cognitive phenomenology/ mental construct processing approach. Representationalism vs. distributed network, a debate within cogsci/philomind.

Neurotheology – with and without the ASC. High vs. low neurowhatever.
Neuroreductionism
Neuroshamanism
Neurocognition
the Neurocognitive approach
Neurofoo
Neurowoowoo
Neurorepresentationalism
Neurophenomenology
Neurogullibility
Neuropseudoscience
Neurocargocultism
the Neurocult
Neurosubstitution for cognitive phenomenology
Neurospirituality
Quantum Neurodynamics
Nondual quantum neurobullshamanism will set you free and give you the blissful enlightenment you’ve always dreamed of.
Magic dust: a dash of quantum, a pinch of neuro, a sprinkle of shaman, ready for market

High neurowoowoo is superior to low neurowoowoo.

The neuro vs. cogni approaches, with and without ASC/ loose cognitive binding.


Neuroscience serves as a proxy covertly substituting for cognitive science (mental construct processing and loose cognitive binding per the Egodeath theory). Where you should discuss mental construct networks and binding shift, you substitute a discussion of neural networks.

This is a debate within cognitive science/ philosophy of mind, of PDP parallel distributed processing and the Churchlands’ neural nets, as an approach/ explanatory model, vs. cognitive — though the ASC is omitted.

Cogsci discusses hardware (neuro) vs. minds/software (cogni), distributed net (Churchland) vs. modular symbols/ nodes/ representationalism. Thagard chapters on competing computer modelling approaches: Churchland’s [pdp] approach vs [opposite, approaching the Egodeath theory’s MCP+LCB component].

The {mental construct representation} aspect of cogsci. My {mental construct association matrixes} model has both representation-node and distributed-network qualities.

— Michael Hoffman

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Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
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Group: egodeath Message: 6658 From: egodeath Date: 05/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
It would be most worhwhile to trace in my posts the trajectory of these threads of research including the January 21, 2014 follow-on solutions of the staff of Asclepius, Moses’ brass snake on a pole for healing (Jesus is compared to that in the New Testament), and Jesus’ stauros/ pole/ stake/ tree/ cross; king Jesus died/swooned on a “tree”, hung from the tree.

“My established principle or recognition that snake means eternal world model and my hypothesis of branching myth themes, and my work on interpretation of tree of knowledge of good and evil, which were two or three separate research threads, suddenly were placed in direct contrast, not merely accumulation.”

Roots in 2003: heimarmene-snake posts.

2006, 2007: eternalism first post.

2011-2012: stag hydra typhon crossroads mushroom branchless trees: initial tentative hypothesis that *nonbranching* (of possibilities; monopossibility) is the principle being depicted.

2013 peak; confirmation beyond my greatest expectations of what confirmation of the hypothesis is possible!!: the threads come together in Cranach’s painting “Eve tempted by serpent”, supplemented by Douris’ Jason/snake kylix. Head of person on snake body often positioned *where tree trunk meets branches of tree* (I’m introducing this newish latter point the past couple days).

2014 follow-on confirmations: staff of Asclepius, Moses’ snake on pole; Heracles’ club; Abraham’s ram caught in a bush. Any pair of key mythemes (king ram bush tree snake pole) implies the entire system of analogies describing entheogens revealing Eternalism.

A “new” breakthrough realization of mine always has roots, less well interconnected though.

— Michael Hoffman, theorist of ego death
Group: egodeath Message: 6659 From: egodeath Date: 05/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
Parrallelomania: Greek myth vs. Bible mytheme-pairs:

Tree in the garden of Hesperides (jason/snake kylix) =
The tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the garden of Eden

Staff of asclepius =
Moses’ brass snake on a pole

King Pentheus in a tree (Dionysus)
King Jesus hung from the tree/cross

— Michael Hoffman, the interdisciplinary theorist of ego death
Copyright (C) 2015 Michael S. Hoffman (Egodeath.com). All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6660 From: egodeath Date: 05/01/2015
Subject: Re: Recognizing all forms of egoic freewill religion
Any system that doesn’t assert Eternalism, asserts Possibilism.

Any system that isn’t experiential preserves Possibilism thinking, and fails to actually produce Eternalism thinking.


Any system of Transcendent Knowledge that doesn’t centrally emphasize:

Eternalism (monopossibility, possibility nonbranching, no-free-will); clarity about the essentials; experiential cognition

defaults to advocating:

our original sin; Possibilism (multipossibility, possibility branching, free will); confusion about the essentials; nonexperiential cogitation


The Egodeath theory is the ultimate Eternalism-advocating, sytematic, simple, pure, consistent, principled, STEM system of Transcendent Knowledge.

I criticize Quantum Physics, nonduality spirituality, Ptolemaic astral ascent mysticism, Gnosticism, Neoplatonism, and Catholicism, and moderate Calvinism, and hyper-Calvinism with PSA and ECT.

Thise are false and ineffective systems, because they aren’t centered on the experiential shift from Possibilism to Eternalism. They fail to recognize interdisciplinary connections.

Only the Egodeath theory is an efficient, clean, STEM-conformant, effective system of Transcendent Knowledge.

Only the Egodeath theory is explicitly centered on the experiential shift from Possibilism to Eternalism, including entheogens, loose mental construct processing per a proper STEM Cognitive Science analysis, and mapping to religious mythic metaphor.

The Egodeath theory explains specifically why other systems are failures, so it is the superior and ultimate, true and correct explanatory framework of our religious revelatory potential of the mind, conformant with Sam Harris’ Cognitive Science assertion of no-free-will.

The Egodeath theory is superior to such assertions and represents the complete ultimate development of Cognitive Science assertions of no-free-will.

The Egodeath theory enables EXPERIENCING the complete shift from Possibilism to Eternalism, envisioned with all tools: metaphor, determinism, Relativity, monopossibility, Reformed.

The Egodeath theory is properly interdisciplinary, and experiential, unlike Sam Harris.

— Michael Hoffman, the interdisciplinary EXPERIENTIAL Cognitive Science theorist of ego death
Copyright (C) 2015 Michael S. Hoffman (Egodeath.com). All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6661 From: egodeath Date: 05/01/2015
Subject: Re: Recognizing all forms of egoic freewill religion
Recognizing all forms of Possibilism religion

There are only two religions, or systems of Transcendent Knowledge: Possibilism, or Eternalism.

Religion (our actual true religious potential) is the experiential shift from:
Possibilism thinking and experiencing
to
Eternalism thinking and experiencing
including the adjustment and revision of our ideas about our personal control power.

Any religion or system of Transcendent Knowledge that is not focused on this specific shift, is irrelevant and nonsense and is not actually religion.

There is only one true religion: the religion of experiential shift from Possibilism to Eternalism, both in our thinking and in our experiencing.

The Egodeath theory is the full development of the one true bona fide religion, the religion of the experiential shift from Possibilism to Eternalism.

All other religions are not actually religion (they are mis-focused), or are incompletely developed.

They are either Possibilism religion, such as PSA and ECT that contaminate the otherwise no-free-will hyper-Calvinism, or they are in sufficiently developed ineffective attempts at Eternalism religion.

Only the Egodeath theory is consistent Eternalism religion, and is experiential, and is fully developed, and is mapped to other domains (interdisciplinary mapping of the new theory/paradigm to the previous attempted theories/paradigms).

— Michael Hoffman, the
experiential, consistent, fully developed, interdisciplinary, Eternalism, STEM cognitive science, effective
theorist of ego death
Copyright (C) 2015 Michael S. Hoffman (Egodeath.com). All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6662 From: egodeath Date: 05/01/2015
Subject: Re: Recognizing all forms of egoic freewill religion
insufficiently developed ineffective attempts at Eternalism religion, such as Sam Harris on no-free-will.
Group: egodeath Message: 6663 From: egodeath Date: 06/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism

There are 3 interconnected mistakes in the current discussions about Time and Eternalism: 


Current discussions of Time and Eternalism incorrectly focus on:
Presentism, OSC, no myth. 


The Egodeath theory correctly focuses on:
Possibilism, ASC, myth.


A Companion to the Philosophy of Time (Blackwell Companions to Philosophy)
Adrian Bardon (Editor),    Heather Dyke (Editor)
2013
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0470658819/
Should contrast Possibilism, not Presentism, to Eternalism. 
Based in OSC ratiocination, not ASC experiential.
No myth.



1.  Presentism?  Focus on Possibilism instead.


 The current discussions focus on “Presentism vs. Eternalism” but should be “Possibilism vs. Eternalism”.  


Our innate view prior to ASC initiation is Possibilism, not Presentism. 


Myth depicts the experiential shift from Possibilism to Eternalism, not from Presentism to Eternalism.  



2.  OSC vs. ASC based


The current discussions about Time and Eternalism are OSC-based, not ASC-based; cogitation/ratiocination based, should be {ASC experiential cognitive phenomenology}-based.   Possibilism is experienced one way, Eternalism in ASC is experienced a different way.


The focus in the Philosophy of  Time books is universally in terms of the contrast between Presentism vs. Eternalism.  The contrast should instead be on Possibilism vs. Eternalism — tree vs. snake.  branching vs. worldline.  This error is because of lack of mapping to myth, and lack of experiential approach.


Discussions on Philosophy of Time are missing out on huge aspects — they are non-experiential driven; they are OSC-based speculation/ ratiocination / cogitation.


Religion and myth are experiential-driven; they are ASC-based experiential reports, cognitive phenomenology, perception; loose-cognitive perceptual phenonemenology.



3. Myth mapping.


The contrast-image of the {tree vs. snake} is the most-ancient contrast image. 


The tree depicts Possibilism (possibility branching), not Presentism.  Presentism is a bad choice for a model — it is purely abstract and cannot be imaged, depicted.  Possibilism is a tree.  Eternalism is a snake in rock.


The snake depicts Eternalism (worldline in block universe; spacetime worm).    


The existing debate in OSC-based Time books is mis-aligned with ASC myth description concerns.


The Experiential Revelation of Eternalism — depicted in religious mythic metaphor.

The Experiential Altered State Revelation of Eternalism.

The Cognitive Phenomenology of Altered State Eternalism.

The Experiential Cognitive Phenomenology of Eternalism.  Understand, experience, feel, sense, perceive, and comprehend in the ASC (loosecog state).


Eternalism doesn’t come from Philosophy of no-free-will, or Linguistics (A-series vs. B-series), or Relativity / Minkowski block time.  Eternalism comes from entheogens, as an experiential revelation.


— Michael Hoffman, the theorist of Egodeath

Group: egodeath Message: 6664 From: egodeath Date: 06/01/2015
Subject: History of Eternalism, Block Time, Block Universe Determinism
1600 BC (500 BC?): The tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the garden of Eden, containing a snake, and fruit of the tree.

1500 BC (500 BC?): Moses’ healing brass (rigid) snake on a pole (debranched tree).

500 BC Ancient myth; Jason/snake kylix; Typhon, father of all monsters; the king sees snakes at a mixed-wine banquet and is frozen into a rock statue.

300 BC: Staff of Asclepius the Healer (snake on a debranched tree).

150 AD: Transition from no-free-will as terminal point in religious maturation (tree/snake contrast, repudiating tree and affirming snake), to transcending no-free-will (rising above the sphere of the fixed stars).

1079: Anselm: block time.

1530: Reformation. Lucas Cranach’s painting “Eve tempted by the serpent” highlights branching.

1884: Flatland, by Edwin Abbott.

1908: McTaggart’s Linguistics-based block time is published. Minkowski’s 1907 Physics-based block time is presented. A big year for block time.

1988: The Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence (my core theory; my Phase 1 work), presenting limits on personal control power in light of 1908 Minkowski block time and Alan Watts’ personal noncontrol in his 1955 book _The Way of Zen_ (similar to his article “Zen and the Problem of Control”) — as the true definition of ego transcendence, rather than nonduality as the focus of ego transcendence. Nonduality as the focus of ego transcendence is the theory advocated by Ken Wilber and Journal of Transpersonal Psychology; I fought against that theory as the old theory that my paradigm supercedes, having greater explanatory power and scope.

1997: The Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence (my core theory, without myth or history) is summarized at the Principia Cybernetica website on the World Wide Web.

2001: I realize and announce that myth describes no-free-will on the World Wide Web. November 12, 2001. This is the first breakthrough in Phase 2 of developing the Egodeath theory (phase 2 extends the core theory into history and myth). Translating all key myth in terms of {entheogens revealing Eternalism} takes through early 2014.

2006:

I added {mapping to religious mythic metaphor} in my main article 2006 on the World Wide Web.

The Entheogen Theory of Relig and Egodeath (could be titled the “{Metaphor Describes Entheogens Revealing Eternalism} theory…” or the {Entheogen-induced experiential shift from Possibilism to Eternalism} theory of what is revealed in religion in the mystic altered state.

2013:

November 29, 2013: My confirmation of several threads come together: snake in myth (the #1 frequent mytheme) depicts the block universe worldline (heimarmene snake), branching imagery in myth, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil containing a snake.
December 3, 2013: Video lecture and announcement posting on the World Wide Web.

2014:

My core theory and its deciphering of myth and its mapping to myth is confirmed further by solving and deciphering the Staff of Asclepius the Healer.

January 21, 2014, Post-It Note explanation given to Karen the barista, photo has that datetime stamp. Mentioned the Asclepius solution in email to M.F. in early 2014.
Followed by Moses’ healing snake on a pole; a rigid brass snake on a debranched tree.

Healing = experiential shift from Possibilism to Eternalism.

The experiential shift from Possibilism to Eternalism is characterized as healing and is the model for analogy for physical healing, or making whole.

When we experientially shift from Possibilism to Eternalism, we are made whole and healed.

When OSC (tightcog) returns, we experientially return to Possibilism (egoic freewill thinking), but we eventually retain and remember the concepts and experiences of Eternalism from the ASC (loosecog).

Announced all the 2014 breakthroughs on the World Wide Web around December 14, 2014, through January 5, 2015.

2015:

I posted on the Web extensive connections between block time and other fields (Reformed theology, myth, religion, the sphere of the fixed stars in post-150 AD systems including Ptolemaic astral ascent mysticism, Neoplatonism, Gnosticism, Philosophy of free will, Catholic theology).

The true essence of Religion is the experiential shift from OSC-based *Possibilism* thinking and experiencing, to ASC-based *Eternalism* thinking and experiencing.

— Michael Hoffman, the theorist of Egodeath
Group: egodeath Message: 6665 From: egodeath Date: 06/01/2015
Subject: Acronyms and abbreviations
Acronyms:

OSC – ordinary state of consciousness (tight mental construct association; tightcog)
ASC — altered state of consciousness (loose mental construct association; loosecog)

tightcog — the tight cognitive association state, the mind’s default state. Tight mental functioning binding (TMFB) per my 1987 terminology.
loosecog — the loose cognitive association state induced by entheogens. Loose mental functioning binding (LMFB) per my 1987 terminology.

ECT — eternal conscious torment (punishment-Hell, complement of reward-Heaven)
PSA — penal substitutionary atonement (created by Anselm in 1079)

God, in Reformed theology: Ow, my puppet kicked me! Bad puppet! Some nerve, you have! I sentence you to ECT, for rebellion against my power!

Moses’ horns or rays depict awareness of the illusory nature of possibility branching.

— Michael Hoffman, the theorist of Egodeath
Group: egodeath Message: 6666 From: egodeath Date: 06/01/2015
Subject: God created Drug Prohibition and Drug Policy Reform
Prohibitionist Terr*rists (puppets of god)
Dr*g Policy Reformers (puppets of god)

Terr*rist or “peace *fficer”? How to tell the difference?

Before the U.S. can be positioned to criticize Islam, the U.S. must end Prohibition.

Prohibition is nothing but a massive human rights violation, including legalized robbery (forfeiture) and legalized murder (military-style raids).

The pot is calling the kettle black: Prohibition is as bad, destructive, badly motivated, uncivilized, unenlightened, and barbaric as Shariah law.

To hide from himself and cast himself outward into the illusion of multiple control agents, God prohibited psychedelics.

— Michael Hoffman, the theorist of Egodeath
Group: egodeath Message: 6667 From: egodeath Date: 06/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
Companion to the Philosophy of Time (Blackwell Companions to Philosophy)
Adrian Bardon (Editor), Heather Dyke (Editor)
2013
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0470658819/
Should contrast Possibilism, not Presentism, to Eternalism.
Based in OSC ratiocination, not ASC experiential.
No myth.
Group: egodeath Message: 6668 From: egodeath Date: 06/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
Against armchair philosophy, against armchair theories of myth, myth and philosophy is something to be experienced intensely, out-of-control, compelling your thinking and feeling and sensation.

The moment you say ‘philosophy’, as in philosophy of time, get a lobotomy: it connotes a modern limited idea: we’re going to time travel and go here and there, and everywhere we go, we are going to limit our thinking to a stiff, preconceived modern notion of what philosophy is.

This is the downfall of the transition to modern rational enlightenment: ‘rationality’ is assumed to be the ordinary state of consciousness, with no concept of experiencing a shift from the possibility world model to the eternity world model.

How good can a book be, in the isolated field of so-called religion, understood in a rational modern enlightenment sense, when it is systematic theology that is all limited to the assumption of the ordinary state of consciousness, with the fatal assumption constraining our thinking right out of the gate, that the Eucharist is merely a symbol.

The Eucharist mixed wine propelling philosophy and propelling myth is a psychedelic inducing the intense experience of our kingly steering power dying on the possibility branching tree, and then the intense experience of living in a reconfigured mental world model as a snake embedded frozen into the space time rock cave.

Modern philosophy of time fails to see the subject as a matter of intense negative fantastic breathtaking awesome experiential, cognitive phenomenology such degraded philosophy fails to see thinking about time as a matter of compelling experiential phenomenology.

We end up with altered-state intense experiencing downshifted into the hardly experiential ordinary state of experiencing time

There is no comparison between experiencing time in the ordinary state versus altered state phenomenology.

This is a serious major reductionism.

Modern philosophy is experientially reductionist.

Modern thinking about myth and religion is serious reductionism, from intense experiencing of the shift from possibility to eternity world model, to merely single-state tight cognitive association conjecture, as if we are inexperienced children speculating about climax, without even really having the concept of climax as an intense experience.

The modern field of philosophy and the modern field of religion strangely both, in practice, make the same mistake of removing or omitting the altered state experiential shift, so they cannot recognize myth.

Myth describes intense experiencing, but philosophy, considered in the modern enlightenment rationalist way, knows nothing of the idea of experiencing philosophy and experiencing religion and experiencing myth.

When you experience myth of block time, eternity world model, death and reconfigured life afterwords, this involves rationality in conjunction, in concert with experiencing.

Modern philosophy, and modern religion, assumes there is only rationality, and not also intense experiencing, an experiential shift in conjunction with rationality.

Heavy acid rock, and mythology in religion, both are intensely negative: you FAIL, possibility thinking DIES, you are R*PED and raptured, OVERPOWERED; you PANIC, it is AWESOME, it is out of the ordinary to experience the WRATH of holding inconsistent ideas about the source of your control power; you experience profound LOSS OF CONTROL.

But modern reductionism limits us to a safe crib, protected from intensity. We are shielded from adult thinking and adult experiencing of intense CATASTROPHE collapse that forcefully compels and FORCES upon us a reconfiguration into a new mental world model.

Real philosophy kicks your *ss to HELL and back and lifts you to heaven. Real philosophy it is an overpowering experience, not feeble speculative armchair philosophy, as in the experientially reductionist so-called “philosophy” of time.

Real philosophy of time kicks your *ss to hell and back, and shakes your foundation into rubble, and forces new thinking through new experiencing.

— Michael Hoffman, phablet voice dictator of what myth, philosophy, and religion are really all about: the ego death theorist
Group: egodeath Message: 6669 From: egodeath Date: 06/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
That was one of my best posts ever.
Group: egodeath Message: 6670 From: egodeath Date: 06/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
Next I will post the posting again with a couple of periods added and a superfluous ‘it’ removed; slightly more polished and stylistically consistent without changing the style.
Group: egodeath Message: 6671 From: egodeath Date: 06/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
Against armchair philosophy, against armchair theories of myth, myth and philosophy is something to be experienced intensely, out-of-control, compelling your thinking and feeling and sensation.

The moment you say ‘philosophy’, as in philosophy of time, get a lobotomy: it connotes a modern limited idea: we’re going to time travel and go here and there, and everywhere we go, we are going to limit our thinking to a stiff, preconceived modern notion of what philosophy is.

This is the downfall of the transition to modern rational enlightenment: ‘rationality’ is assumed to be the ordinary state of consciousness, with no concept of experiencing a shift from the possibility world model to the eternity world model.

How good can a book be, in the isolated field of so-called religion, understood in a rational modern enlightenment sense, when it is systematic theology that is all limited to the assumption of the ordinary state of consciousness, with the fatal assumption constraining our thinking right out of the gate, that the Eucharist is merely a symbol.

The Eucharist mixed wine propelling philosophy and propelling myth is a psychedelic inducing the intense experience of our kingly steering power dying on the possibility branching tree, and then the intense experience of living in a reconfigured mental world model as a snake embedded frozen into the space time rock cave.

Modern philosophy of time fails to see the subject as a matter of intense negative fantastic breathtaking awesome experiential cognitive phenomenology. Such degraded philosophy fails to see thinking about time as a matter of compelling experiential phenomenology.

We end up with altered-state intense experiencing downshifted into the hardly experiential ordinary state of experiencing time.

There is no comparison between experiencing time in the ordinary state versus altered state phenomenology.

This is a serious major reductionism.

Modern philosophy is experientially reductionist.

Modern thinking about myth and religion is serious reductionism, from intense experiencing of the shift from possibility to eternity world model, to merely single-state tight cognitive association conjecture, as if we are inexperienced children speculating about climax, without even really having the concept of climax as an intense experience.

The modern field of philosophy and the modern field of religion strangely both, in practice, make the same mistake of removing or omitting the altered state experiential shift, so they cannot recognize myth.

Myth describes intense experiencing, but philosophy, considered in the modern enlightenment rationalist way, knows nothing of the idea of experiencing philosophy and experiencing religion and experiencing myth.

When you experience myth of block time, eternity world model, death and reconfigured life afterwords, this involves rationality in conjunction, in concert with experiencing.

Modern philosophy, and modern religion, assumes there is only rationality, and not also intense experiencing, an experiential shift in conjunction with rationality.

Heavy acid rock, and mythology in religion, both are intensely negative: you FAIL, possibility thinking DIES, you are R*PED and raptured, OVERPOWERED; you PANIC, it is AWESOME, it is out of the ordinary to experience the WRATH of holding inconsistent ideas about the source of your control power; you experience profound LOSS OF CONTROL.

But modern reductionism limits us to a safe crib, protected from intensity. We are shielded from adult thinking and adult experiencing of intense CATASTROPHE collapse that forcefully compels and FORCES upon us a reconfiguration into a new mental world model.

Real philosophy kicks your *ss to HELL and back and lifts you to heaven. Real philosophy is an overpowering experience, not feeble speculative armchair philosophy, as in the experientially reductionist so-called “philosophy” of time.

Real philosophy of time kicks your *ss to hell and back, and shakes your foundation into rubble, and forces new thinking through new experiencing.

— Michael Hoffman, the ego death theorist; phablet voice dictator of what myth, philosophy, and religion are really all about
Group: egodeath Message: 6672 From: egodeath Date: 06/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
Group: egodeath Message: 6673 From: egodeath Date: 06/01/2015
Subject: Re: History of Eternalism, Block Time, Block Universe Determinism
November 29, 2013 —

My {e equals MC squared}-equivalent breakthrough equation:

tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism

Entheogens induce an experiential shift from Possibilism to Eternalism.

— Michael Hoffman, the theorist of ego death
Group: egodeath Message: 6674 From: egodeath Date: 06/01/2015
Subject: Re: Recognizing all forms of egoic freewill religion
Neoplatonism and Quantum Physics and Gnosticism are popular because they are a semi-covert effort of sneaking back in egoic freewill multipossibility branching, after the assertion of no-free-will in block time in Relativity (Minkowski 1908) and in snake-not-tree banqueting religion up to 150 AD.

‘Spirit’ outside the realm of no-free-will is no use, serving no purpose, unless it is covert egoic freewill power.

‘Spirit’ (pneuma) postulated above fate-ruled soma and psyche, is egoically motivated, introducing confusion to shelter freewill thinking like Jonah’s bush that the worm ate.

We should construct moral ethics in submission (conformity) to Eternalism, not shirk and taint and evade Eternalism by blending back in Possibilism, like mixing egoic punishment-Hell with transcendent no-free-will hyper-Calvinism.

Don’t attempt to “transcend” no-free-will; to attempt that is a euphemism for denying Eternalism and reasserting egoic confused Possibilism thinking. Honor, not evade, Eternalism. The alternative is animal confusion, egoic delusion.

— Michael Hoffman, the theorist of ego death
Group: egodeath Message: 6675 From: egodeath Date: 06/01/2015
Subject: Re: Recognizing all forms of egoic freewill religion
What do Gnosticism, Neoplatonism, Quantum Physics, Integral Theory, freewill theory, and systematic theology all have in common? They are all fantastically complicated, laden with obscure jargon, and have a negative stance toward no-free-will.

Apophatic transrational quantum nonduality is nothing but a shield for freewill assertion.

Like Jonah’s tangled bush that shields him from the harsh light of the sun (before the spacetime worm worldline eats the possibility-branching bush), these sky castles exist for purpose of preserving animal confusion, to provide a place for egoic freewill confusion and incoherence to hide.

The Egodeath theory, the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence, is Eternalism and can be summarized in complete detail in a few pages. Here there is nowhere for egoic freewill confusion to hide.

— Michael Hoffman, the theorist of ego death
Group: egodeath Message: 6676 From: egodeath Date: 06/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
Instead of cogsci moving into “embodied cognition” with great fanfare, cogsci should move into ASC, loosecog, following the Egodeath theory, with great fanfare. Or continue fizzling out while neurobaloney runs off with all your lunch money.

M hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6677 From: egodeath Date: 07/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
Announcing a sub-theory name:

the Entheogen Eternalism Theory of Myth

the Egodeath theory = the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence + the Entheogen Eternalism Theory of Myth

Acronym notation:
EDT = CTET + EETM

‘myth’ means *religious mythic metaphor*, such as king Jesus, who is like Moses’ healing brass serpent on a pole, sacrificed hung on the tree to cancel our sin to give purification and athanatos and heal to reconnect minds to the source of thoughts and actions.

We elect are made to awaken to the controllership that gives rise to everyone’s thoughts, prohibitionist and reformer alike frozen together in spacetime rock — that same rock that the thief of Transcendent Knowledge, Prometheus, is chained to for eternity, until the end of time.

I have needed a label to refer exclusively to the Phase 2 portion of my theory work, about myth, religion, history, and ahistoricity, as opposed to the Phase 1 core theory.

The Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence is my Phase 1 work, 1985-1998. It is timeless and technical, non-metaphorical, no myth, no history, no metaphor reliance.

The Entheogen Eternalism Theory of Myth is my Phase 2 work, 1999-2014. In 1999 I sought to show that the New Testament affirms the technical core theory, the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence.

In 2001, I discovered and recognized that myth describes not merely visionary plants per Clark Heinrich, but particularly, no-free-will, recast in 2013 as Eternalism — intense *experiential* Eternalism.

Carl Ruck = the entheogen theory of myth, without Eternalism.

I characterize Ruck as the moderate entheogen theory of religion or myth.

The Egodeath theory, specifically the Entheogen Eternalism Theory of Myth, presents the maximal entheogen theory of religion, which inherently leads to Eternalism.

Carl Ruck and the moderate entheogen theory of religion (Mark Hoffman of Entheos journal) lacked awareness and coverage of the intense experiential shift of consciousness specifically from Possibilism to Eternalism that is inherently induced by entheogens.

This is the THE ULTIMATE THEORY: the Egodeath theory; the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence + the Entheogen Eternalism Theory of Myth.

— Michael Hoffman, the theorist of ego death
Group: egodeath Message: 6678 From: egodeath Date: 07/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
Myth describes visionary plants inducing intense experiential shift from Possibilism to Eternalism including block time and no-free-will. That is the Entheogen Eternalism Theory of Myth.

Every word must be redefined into 2 senses, one conformant with block time, Eternalism, static dynamics. Linguistic philosophers have work to do here. In this marble slab, a vein moves through it. The vein approaches the edge. The width of the vein changes as you move toward the edge of the slab. The vein doesn’t change.

— Michael Hoffman, the theorist of ego death
Group: egodeath Message: 6679 From: egodeath Date: 07/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
I made substantial contributions and paradigm revisions to fields in my Phase 2 (1999-2014) work on the Egodeath theory, which can be considered as part of the Entheogen Eternalism Theory of Myth:

Ahistoricity of religious founder figures

History of visionary plants in religion and culture

World myth in religions

History of no-free-will and block time

Chronology revisionism (helps see church fathers as fictional)

Experiential shift from Possibilism to Eternalism described in myth — this fed back into my core theory from Phase 1.


I consider interdisciplinary studies part of my Phase 2 work, even though immediately after my January 1988 core theory breakthrough, I hit the library and built my library in order to communicate the core theory (the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence) to all fields.

Due to my growing knowledge, inherently my Phase 1 work esp. 1985-1987 leading up to the breakthrough was less interdisciplinary than today in 2015. I was reading Ken Wilber in 1986, in order to survey many fields.

All would-be systems of Transcendent Knowledge are covert freewillist projects to the extent they don’t assert and halt at Eternalism and no-free-will:
Neoplatonism
Gnosticism
Mithraism
Integral Theory
Nonduality spirituality and (nondrug) meditation
Shamanism
McKennaism; pop entheogen spirituality
Moderate Calvinism/Reformed
Hyper-Calvinism/Reformed that mixes-in punishment-Hell and penal substitutionary atonement
Quantum Physics
Catholic theology, its moral ethics

The post-150 AD movements to evade no-free-will (see Cosmology and Fate by Lewis) succeeded in burying and obscuring no-free-will by sheer quantity of obscuration.

No-free-will was effectively suppressed and relatively forgotten, compared to the heyday of no-free-will and intense experiential Eternalism during the Hellenistic era 323 BC – 31 BC.

I reject all systems of Transcendent Knowledge as inauthentic and delusion-sustaining, except a few, and I reject these few as experientially and theoretically inadequate:
Relativity correctly halts at no-free-will, block time, Parmenides, Eternalism.
Ramesh Balsekar (Advaita) and
Timothy Freke (New Age) assert no-free-will as Transcendent Knowledge.

There is only one system of Transcendent Knowledge that is authentic, experientially adequate, theoretically adequate, and STEM-appropriate and useful such as for Cognitive Science research: the Egodeath theory, including the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence and the Entheogen Eternalism Theory of Myth.

— Michael Hoffman, the theorist of ego death
Group: egodeath Message: 6680 From: egodeath Date: 07/01/2015
Subject: Re: Might allow hiding your email address
Ken Wilber writes of “the Atman project” — substitution projects attempting immortality. I characterize all systems of Transcendent Knowledge that are averse to no-free-will, as “freewill recovery projects”.

Neoplatonism is a freewill recovery project, against the Hellenistic no-free-will era.

Gnosticism is a freewill recovery project, against the Hellenistic-era no-free-will religion covered by Luther Martin’s book Hellenistic Religions.

Quantum Physics is a freewill recovery project, against Relativity’s block time, Eternalism, Parmenides, and no-free-will.

Catholic theology is a freewill recovery project, against Luther’s assertion of no-free-will.

Moderate Calvinism is a freewill recovery project, against hyper-Calvinism that asserts no-free-will and God as author of sin, evil, rebellion, and confusion.

We seek Transcendent Knowledge in ways that prevent Transcendent Knowledge; we want Transcendent Knowledge but we insist of taking our egoic freewill meta-steering possibility-steering power and our possibility-branching open future with us.

“Give me Transcendent Knowledge, and give me freewill steering power in a possibility branching universe.”

— Michael Hoffman, the theorist of ego death
Group: egodeath Message: 6681 From: egodeath Date: 07/01/2015
Subject: Re: Might allow hiding your email address
Another development in Christian thinking: John MacArthur’s Strange Fire conference and video sermons or talks against Pentacostal enthusiasm. I’m not a video viewer but I saw a video of MacArthur at his (I think) church’s podium talking skeptically at length about literally “transcendent knowledge, special knowledge, revealed, mystic revelation” and suchlike phrases. I felt love and connection for him, much in common. He was speaking my language in a questioning skeptical but open-minded way. I have the answers for his questions and I agree with him that charismatic Christianity is bunk. There is better. Charismatic is inauthentic. Sincerity isn’t so much the issue. He sees people as misguided and I agree. He doesn’t know how we can have authentic enthusiasm, I do. I hope to find and post the video link. I loved hearing him talk my language and I resonate with his sincerity. I don’t care about gay issues, they side-track Transcendent Knowledge. Same with evolution debates — a pox on both houses. I am filled with caring about entheogens and eternalism and intense experiencing combined with rationality. And passion for theory development.

— — Michael Hoffman, the theorist of ego death
Group: egodeath Message: 6682 From: egodeath Date: 07/01/2015
Subject: Re: Recognizing all forms of egoic freewill religion
What people want, in paranormal psychedelic open-future manyworlds quantum nonduality hyperdimensional string theory supernatural Possibilism-explosion.

There is such an enthusiastic gee-whiz popularity in magical thinking. This is a substitute for the fantastic realization of the emphatically *closed* revelation of Eternalism.

There are two ways to Believe in fantastical things. The revelation of Eternalism and the closed future, and of pure metaphoricity in the Bible and myth, is exciting.

People are correct to pursue ecstatic revelation, otherworldly journeys.

To say there’s no fantastic otherworld is wrong. The issue is, in which direction does the true ecstatic revelation lie?

Heavy acid rock converges in a particular, controlled, closed direction “Last night I had a vsion of Eternalism, inability, presetness, unuvoidability.”

I enjoy reading pop folk uncontrolled otherworldly books, but truly, such paranormal supernatural quantum strangeness is a substitute uncontrolled malformed metaphor or analogy for the true fantastic revelation, of Eternalism per the Egodeath theory.

The Bible is revealed as coherent anti-supernatural rational metaphor describing entheogens revealing Eternalism.

I do the miracles Jesus said I would if I Believe in him. I cast out demons, I walk on water, I raise the dead, I heal sickness.

This is all recognized as rational coherent metaphor and Hellenistic deliberate systematic misleading.

The Bible encourages supernaturalist egoic confusion, then reveals nonconfusion, the fantastic ego-depressing closed future that shatters the childish logically uncontrolled world of egoic thus supernatural thinking such as the fantasy of freewill possibility thinking.

— Michael the miracle worker, Believer in Christ
Group: egodeath Message: 6683 From: egodeath Date: 07/01/2015
Subject: Re: Recognizing all forms of egoic freewill religion
Charismatic paranormal supernatural as encouraged in the surface reading of the Bible is a temporary immature substitute for the real bona fide adult revelation of altered state perception of Eternalism. The supernatural paranormal that is extremely popular is a toy plastic imitation steering wheel on the wrong side of the car while the adult is actually doing the driving.

— Michael Hoffman, the theorist of ego death
Group: egodeath Message: 6684 From: egodeath Date: 07/01/2015
Subject: Re: Recognizing all forms of egoic freewill religion
Imitation transcendence versus bona fide transcendent knowledge. The children are entertained by mystic tall tales in the Bible and in quantum physics books and in McKenna books of pop psychedelics, in preparation for the real revelation of inability, closed future Eternalism, and death of childish free will power steering thinking, and the death of the world of multi possibility branching that children live in.

— Michael Hoffman, the theorist of ego death
Group: egodeath Message: 6685 From: egodeath Date: 07/01/2015
Subject: Re: Recognizing all forms of egoic freewill religion
Graham Hancock and McKenna and Ken Wilber and the supernatural are training wheels in preparation for the Egodeath theory. Fantastical pop supernaturalism is deliberate misleading to prop up the most-delicate ego illusion (necessary for God’s projected-outward drama of separate agencies) and preparation for true adult wonders.

M hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6686 From: egodeath Date: 07/01/2015
Subject: Re: Recognizing all forms of egoic freewill religion
I do the miracles Jesus said I would if I Believe in him. If you Believe the Bible, you Believe me. I cast out demons, I walk on water, I raise the dead, I heal sickness, I forgive sins.

— Michael
Group: egodeath Message: 6687 From: egodeath Date: 07/01/2015
Subject: Re: Recognizing all forms of egoic freewill religion
I make the blind see; I make the paralyzed walk.
Group: egodeath Message: 6688 From: egodeath Date: 07/01/2015
Subject: Re: Recognizing all forms of egoic freewill religion
I make the deaf hear.
Group: egodeath Message: 6689 From: egodeath Date: 07/01/2015
Subject: Re: Recognizing all forms of egoic freewill religion
I calm sea-storms and save from shipwreck. If you Believe in me, you are a Believer in Christ and the prophets, and you are a Believer in the Bible.

This faith is not from yourself, but was given to you by God, put into your mind before the beginning of time, lest anyone boast.

— Michael
Group: egodeath Message: 6690 From: egodeath Date: 07/01/2015
Subject: Re: Recognizing all forms of egoic freewill religion
I pick up vipers without being harmed. You too shall perform all these signs and wonders and more if you are among the Believers.

— Michael
Group: egodeath Message: 6691 From: egodeath Date: 07/01/2015
Subject: My correction of today’s Christianity
I don’t have time to correct each pastor. But Christians need to know where the Egodeath theory stands on the debates.

John MacArthur might be a good point of reference for me to correct and relate the Theory to. I do not mock Christians; I love and respect my brothers in Christ. I love, honor, respect, and look up to John MacArthur, although he is to date a hopeless literalist.

MacArthur is one of my circa 1999 instructors authors in Reformed theology, where I was a little ahead of the popular pack in discovering no-free-will in Christianity, having previously read formerly ignorant authors such as Dave Hunt who subsequently wrote What love is this?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._MacArthur

— Michael Hoffman, the theorist of ego death
Group: egodeath Message: 6692 From: egodeath Date: 08/01/2015
Subject: Re: My correction of today’s Christianity
Contrasting modern Christianity or John MacArthur’s understanding versus the Egodeath theory (the Entheogen Eternalism theory of religious mythic metaphor)

The Egodeath theory explains an understanding of religious mythic metaphor that describes visionary plants revealing Eternalism.

visionary plants = mushroom mixed wine.

Eternalism = block universe, block time, time as a spacelike dimension, and our lives as a snake-shaped worldline that is, in a way, frozen motionless — in a way — into the spacetime block.

 

No one goes to a literal punishment-Hell or reward-Heaven.

The “two races” — those fated and fixed in the spacetime rock … sort out the two kinds of spacetime worm worldlines: any particular person’s worldline either leads from Possibilism to Eternalism, or doesn’t.

The set of the saved (elect) is those worldlines that move from Possibilism to Eternalism.

Those predestined for perdition are those worldlines that stay in the Possibilism mental worldmodel and don’t move to the Eternalism mental worldmodel.

Neither race is “going to heaven” after they die bodily or “going to hell” after they die bodily.

For the race of people who never are turned and never convert to Eternalism:

‘hell’ means (according to their thinking) freewill egoic Arminian punishment-Hell.

‘heaven’ means (according to their thinking) freewill egoic Arminian reward-Heaven.

The race of people who are eventually turned and convert from original sin (the original misconception, Possibilism) to Eternalism, initially think in terms of freewill-agents’ punishment-Hell and reward-Heaven.

But upon turning and converting, this elect race re-conceives ‘hell’ as control-turmoil battling in the mystic altered state induced by mushroom mixed wine, and ‘heaven’ as repudiating freewill thinking, after the illusory freewill demon is cast out.

‘hell’ means conflict loss of control turmoil and sea-storm experience of battling against one’s own source of one’s thoughts, in the mushroom-induced loose cognitive association state, producing a reconfigured mental worldmodel, in an intense experiential shift from Possibilism to Eternalism.

Double predestination is the case. But ‘heaven’ and ‘hell’ shift in meaning.

Everything is predestined and static; motionless motion, like a vein in marble slab can be said to “move through” the slab though it is stationary, in another distinct sense.

There is change, in one sense, not another. See book The End of Time, chapter “Static Dynamics”, by Julian Barbour. “Metastatic dynamic”, is my ~1988 phrase; Julian Barbour has a chapter “Static Dynamics”.

 

The blood of Christ is as psychoactive as ever; this refers to ingesting mixed wine, which is mushroom wine.

The wine pitcher (amphora) contains a mushroom alcohol extraction concentrate.

In the mixing bowl (krater) at a religious mythic party (banquet), water is mixed with a mushroom alcohol extraction concentrate.

‘blood of Christ that saves” refers to entheogen (typically mushroom) extraction; mixed wine, which is intensely psychoactive, the effects of which are described by religious mythic metaphor.

To outsiders, ‘wine’ means alcohol wine diluted with water.

To insiders, ‘wine’ means psychoactive mushroom wine or equivalent.

 

I am the systematic complete STEM Cognitive Science dispensation of the late-modern era, including and incorporating the intense experiential reports of Eternalism from the prophets, the poets of Heavy Acid Rock; find my postings about “lyrics” at Egodeath.com and at the Egodeath Yahoo group. For example, Rush (band), Caress of Steel (album), Fountain of Lamneth (album side), No One at the Bridge (song). Beatles (band), Help! (song). (I am the one who on the World Wide Web first recognized and pointed these out as acid lyrics.)

To make hyper-Calvinism (ie Reformed theology) consistent, remove inherently freewillist punishment-Hell.

In religious mythic metaphor, ‘hell’ actually refers to the mental state of fighting against the mind’s source of thoughts in the loosecog state.

 

Religious founder figures are fictional, not historical individuals: the ahistoricity of Adam, Jesus, Paul, church fathers, Mohammed, and Buddha. The genre of the New Testament is Hellenistic religious fiction, myth, and mystery religion — religious mythic metaphor with deliberate misleading, to conceal and then reveal higher meaning. For example, in John’s gospel mystic tall-tale, Jesus merely swoons on the cross, per blood and water immediately flowing forth. To recognize this type of meaningj-shifting is to “Believe”. Blood and water also alludes to mushroom mixed wine.

 

The Bible is serious metaphor, not serious literalism.

The Bible is metaphorical description, of entheogen Eternalism.

To take the Bible seriously and literally is to be a clueless literalist that Jesus admonishes.

MacArthur and almost everyone in the modern era including Reformed and Charismatics, has been an outsider, failing to understand Jesus’ parabolic meaning. Hellenistic double-meaning is attributed to the Jesus figure.

 

Charismatics aren’t conformant to the New Testament or Hellenistic culture and double-entendre literature including riddling misleading of outsiders.

Modern charismatics lack understanding of entheogens revealing Eternalism; they lack the Egodeath theory; they lack understanding of religious mythic metaphor that describes visionary plants revealing Eternalism.

— Michael Hoffman, the Egodeath theorist.

I am the one who figured out this entire theory, 1985-2015, and published it on the World Wide Web since 1997 and online forums since around 1990.

The entire community rallied to give me lots of rich intellectual resources and encouragement to accomplish the greatest thing I could think of, because I was identified as highly intelligent since 5th grade and beyond. I felt a responsibility to accomplish something truly exceptional, being gifted and having the advantage of many influential adults. And I was driven by need to cure my cross-time control integrity malfunctioning through mental analysis of personal control across time.
Group: egodeath Message: 6693 From: egodeath Date: 08/01/2015
Subject: Re: My correction of today’s Christianity
Video lecture:
What has happened after the ‘strange fire’ conference

http://youtu.be/bYulTGso804

At 34 minutes to 43 minutes, John MacArthur discusses *experiencing* transcendent knowledge, as opposed to remaining in the default ordinary state of consciousness while attempting to read and attempting to study and recognize the meaning in scripture.

Relevant to mushroom mixed wine annointing in the Holy Spirit.

John MacArthur doesn’t respond to the Egodeath theory on how the loose cognitive association state induces the experiential shift from the possibility world model to the eternity world model and comprehending metaphoricity.

There is ample support for the Egodeath theory and the signs and wonders that I perform as Jesus said we would when interpreted correctly according to the Egodeath theory.

Yes everyone else is false prophets in the charismatic literalist movement. But the ego death theory fulfills the claims of scripture that John MacArthur cannot otherwise explain how are fulfilled.

Jesus gives food, bread to people and their eyes are distinctly at that moment opened to understand and recognize the meaning of scripture. John M has no explanation for that. The Egodeath theory perfectly explains it and is the only possible coherent transcendent understanding and recognition of what the metaphors in Scripture must refer to.

— Michael Hoffman, the theorist of ego death
Group: egodeath Message: 6694 From: egodeath Date: 08/01/2015
Subject: Re: My correction of today’s Christianity
I am a type, the Egodeath theory is a type of Reformed Continuationist view. Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism Reformed Continuationist, without punishment-hell or reward-heaven but rather, mystical experiential comprehension of these.

Michael
Group: egodeath Message: 6695 From: egodeath Date: 08/01/2015
Subject: Re: My correction of today’s Christianity
Heaven and Hell as entheogen experiences: Robert Graves figured it out in 1957. See my Graves posts.

Michael
Group: egodeath Message: 6696 From: egodeath Date: 08/01/2015
Subject: Re: My correction of today’s Christianity
Hell is unbiblical anyway, eternal conscious torment. The bible is manifestly not for the purpose of telling us how to go to heaven instead of hell after we literally bodily die. Support for hell in the Bible is weaker than a thread; it is shockingly absent.

— Michael Hoffman, the theorist of ego death
Group: egodeath Message: 6698 From: egodeath Date: 08/01/2015
Subject: Re: My correction of today’s Christianity
Hell and heaven and the notion that Christianity is for that purpose is mere tradition, mere Catholic tradition which is heresy and unbiblical.

To read hell into the Bible, the notion that the Bible’s purpose is go to heaven and avoid hell after you die, is to import tradition and heresy into the Bible.

Per Church of Christ (Disciples), stick to only the Bible. Do not import later tradition into the Bible.

Michael the Archangel
Group: egodeath Message: 6699 From: egodeath Date: 09/01/2015
Subject: Re: My correction of today’s Christianity
The biblical gospel good news announcement:

Jesus has brought the just kingdom of God. Jesus brings us into the kingdom of God through having us ingest the mushroom mixed wine in a Christian banquet. Ingesting the wine reclining on bench at table fastens us to the physical tree and transforms our worldmodel to Eternalism and egalitarianism.



The unbiblical Catholic gospel good news announcement:

Jesus died for us so that we can go to heaven instead of hell after we die.



The pagan good news gospel, which the New Testament is a retort and response and rebuttal to:

Jupiter’s Caesar Augustus brings us into the Roman Imperial system through ingesting mushroom mixed wine in the emperor cult banquet and pagan mystery cultic banquets, where reclining on bench at table fastens us to the bench and transforms our worldmodel to Eternalism and hierarchical society.

 

The danger of John MacArthur being Reformed, is that Reformed is a *tradition* and is contaminated still with Catholic tradition. Pop Reformed thinking, even in John Calvin’s own hyper-Calvinism, remains far too Catholic in its assumptions and conceptions of what salvation is about. Reformed thinking remains impure and corrupted with the original sin of freewill thinking and the Possibilism mental worldmodel. Reformed thinking is inconsistent, doesn’t go far enough, retains punishment-thinking, fails to forgive perfectly like Jesus, and therefore falls well short of the consistent, pure Eternalism that drives the Holy Bible (despite the Bible’s urging to do good).



John MacArthur theorizes about who is sanctified. Only those who intellectually, and possibly also experientially, comprehend the Egodeath theory are actually sanctified. Even the “moderate hyper-Calvinists” — “Arminian-still hyper-Calvinists” — mix Catholic traditional freewill punishment-hell into their no-free-will theology; they correctly assert that God is author of confusion, evil, sin, and rebellion, but then in animal-like self-contradictory muddled thinking, they combine that with punishment-hell inherited from the unbiblical Catholic tradition.



Regardless of his impurity-riddled hyper-Calvinism and his conduct of life, MacArthur is not sanctified yet; he is still in his sin, our original confusion, the Possibilism mental worldmodel. MacArthur has not yet been thoroughly turned by the Holy Spirit of clear thinking to the Eternalism mental worldmodel.



The Catholic tradition, inherited like corrupt DNA by the Reformed supposed “scripture only” tradition, holds that Christianity and the Bible are focused on, and are for the purpose of, going to heaven instead of hell after you die. The Reformed *tradition* is not the Bible. Insofar as the Reformed tradition mixes-in egoic punishment-hell and reward-heaven into no-free-will Eternalism and into the Bible, the Reformed tradition is unbiblical. Like the Churches of Christ non-denomination, discard post-Bible traditions of confessionalism, denominations, and Catholic, pagan-influenced tradition. Live in the New Testament era, no later.



Restrict worship practices per the New Testament. Going beyond the New Testament in worship and purpose is unbiblical and heads toward paganism and Popery and selling indulgences to escape hell or purgatory to get into heaven after you die — a project which increases egoic delusion of freewill moral agency steering in a possibility branching tree, which is a deluded and confused conception of personal power and the shape (topology) of the world, building up the animal-like demonic illusion. Post-Bible tradition leads to profiteering, distracting from comprehending revelation of meaning by the Holy Spirit upon receiving from Christ his body and blood, mushrooms and mushroom wine extraction.

 



Christians incorrectly project New Testament (and later) interpretation back onto the Eden tree tale. The theme of “original sin” is not present within the Eden tree narrative. We must sever-away the New Testament, “original sin” reading, in order to read the Eden tree narrative as it stands in itself. See the book _What Really Happened in the Garden of Eden?_



‘Original sin’ actually means the natural initial misunderstanding and shorthand confusion, held by children, animals (and animal-like demons, figuratively speaking), that the world is open-possibility future (Possibilism) and that we have meta-steering power, egoic control power, to steer in kingly fashion into any of the possibility branches. When we cast out demonic confusion, the mind recognizes and repudiates the original sin, adopting Eternalism with a single, preset, pre-existing future, and a snake-shaped invisible railway frozen like a marble statue suspended in the spacetime rock block.

 



Reformed thinkers incorrectly project the Catholic tradition, the Catholic religion of “Christianity is about going to heaven instead of hell after you die”, back onto the Holy Bible. The theme of “Christianity is about going to heaven instead of hell after you die” is not present within the Bible, Old Testament, or New Testament. See N.T. Wright, and Rob Bell (Love Wins). We must sever-away the Catholic, “Christianity is about going to heaven instead of hell after you die” reading, in order to read the Bible, Old Testament, and New Testament narrative as it stands in itself.





The gospel is not instructions on how to go to heaven not hell after death.



What ‘the gospel’ actually is:



Simply Good News: Why the Gospel Is News and What Makes It Good

N. T. Wright

January 6, 2015

http://www.amazon.com/Simply-Good-News-Gospel-Makes/dp/0062334344/

 

The Bible, after later Catholic tradition is deleted, isn’t about how to go to reward-heaven instead of punishment-hell after you bodily die. The Bible is about awakening to the kingship or steering controllership of the Creator of the spacetime block including your entire pre-set frozen stream of thoughts frozen into the past and future. The set of the Elect awaken consciously to the kingship kingdom of God, of Jesus who awakens us and restores us to wholeness (nonduality) and is the avatar of God, displacing such claims by humans such as Caesar Augustus.



The purpose, project, focus, and motivating concern of the Bible is to support deluded childish thinkers doing good prior to initiatory revelation and mental-model turning, and to then reveal for adults the Eternalism mental worldmodel. The Bible in its mature adult revelatory phase is powered by the psychoactive mixed wine, which is the vehicle for the power of the Holy Spirit. The Bible activated by the Holy Spirit in mixed mushroom wine and mushroom bread turns the mind away from the Possibilism mental worldmodel.



The Bible used a strategy of leveraging the altered-state Holy Spirit power revelation toward constructing a just, egalitarian social-political system, against and in rebuttal to Roman Imperial Theology. This strategy is given to the Elect frozen into the spacetime block, even as the Roman Imperial strategy of Caesar Augustus and Jupiter is given to its followers frozen into the spacetime block.



The New Testament is a rebuttal to how the Roman Imperial system used mushroom mixed wine to justify the hierarchical system of society. The New Testament presented a contradictory possibility of using mushroom mixed wine to justify instead an egalitarian system of society. Hierarchy favors the few at the top who hold the most power. Egalitarianism favors the majority at the bottom and middle of the power pyramid, and that is why egalitarian anti-hierarchy Christianity, as a social-support network modelled on the synagogue system was numerically popular and victorious and spread quickly.

 



Mark Driscoll of crashed-and-burned Mar$ Hill Church (it died a few days ago at the end of 2014, due to excess bad judgment), invaded MacArthur’s Strange Fire conference in a stunt to try to promote his latest plagiarized book that used payola to inflate it into phony “bestseller” status. Christianity Today — the publication of SATAN, of pseudo-Christianity for outsiders, who Jesus doesn’t recognize as his — says that this deception, gaming the system, against the efforts of the New York Times bestseller list, is fine and is not unethical. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/warrenthrockmorton/2015/01/07/eric-metaxas-to-christianity-today-getting-on-best-seller-lists-is-good-stewardship/



— The Michael Channel

_______________________________________

Strange Fire: The Danger of Offending the Holy Spirit with Counterfeit Worship

John MacArthur

November 12, 2013

http://www.amazon.com/Strange-Fire-Offending-Counterfeit-Worship/dp/1400205174/

From the publisher:

“What would God say about those who blatantly misrepresent His Holy Spirit; who exchange true worship for chaotic fits of mindless ecstasy; who replace the biblical gospel with vain illusions of health and wealth; who claim to prophesy in His name yet speak errors; and who sell false hope to desperate people for millions of dollars?



The charismatic movement has always been a breeding-ground for scandal, greed, bad doctrine, and all kinds of spiritual chicanery. As a movement, it is clearly headed the wrong direction. And it is growing at an unprecedented rate.



From the Word of Faith to the New Apostolic Reformation, the Charismatic movement is being consumed by the empty promises of the prosperity gospel. Too many charismatic celebrities promote a “Christianity” without Christ, a Holy Spirit without holiness. And their teaching is having a disastrous influence on a grand scale, as large television networks broadcast their heresies to every part of the world.



In Strange Fire, bestselling author and pastor John MacArthur chronicles the unsavory history behind the modern Charismatic movement. He lays out a chilling case for rejecting its false prophets, speaking out against their errors, showing true reverence to the Holy Spirit, and above all clinging to the Bible as the inerrant, authoritative Word of God and the one true standard by which all truth claims must be tested.”
Group: egodeath Message: 6700 From: egodeath Date: 09/01/2015
Subject: Re: My correction of today’s Christianity
I am going to repost with tighter spacing, identical content.
I am reading in a phablet web interface and optimizing for that.
Group: egodeath Message: 6701 From: egodeath Date: 09/01/2015
Subject: Re: My correction of today’s Christianity
The biblical gospel good news announcement:

Jesus has brought the just kingdom of God. Jesus brings us into the kingdom of God through having us ingest the mushroom mixed wine in a Christian banquet. Ingesting the wine reclining on bench at table fastens us to the physical tree and transforms our worldmodel to Eternalism and egalitarianism.

The unbiblical Catholic gospel good news announcement:

Jesus died for us so that we can go to heaven instead of hell after we die.

The pagan good news gospel, which the New Testament is a retort and response and rebuttal to:

Jupiter’s Caesar Augustus brings us into the Roman Imperial system through ingesting mushroom mixed wine in the emperor cult banquet and pagan mystery cultic banquets, where reclining on bench at table fastens us to the bench and transforms our worldmodel to Eternalism and hierarchical society.

 

The danger of John MacArthur being Reformed, is that Reformed is a *tradition* and is contaminated still with Catholic tradition. Pop Reformed thinking, even in John Calvin’s own hyper-Calvinism, remains far too Catholic in its assumptions and conceptions of what salvation is about. Reformed thinking remains impure and corrupted with the original sin of freewill thinking and the Possibilism mental worldmodel. Reformed thinking is inconsistent, doesn’t go far enough, retains punishment-thinking, fails to forgive perfectly like Jesus, and therefore falls well short of the consistent, pure Eternalism that drives the Holy Bible (despite the Bible’s urging to do good).

John MacArthur theorizes about who is sanctified. Only those who intellectually, and possibly also experientially, comprehend the Egodeath theory are actually sanctified. Even the “moderate hyper-Calvinists” — “Arminian-still hyper-Calvinists” — mix Catholic traditional freewill punishment-hell into their no-free-will theology; they correctly assert that God is author of confusion, evil, sin, and rebellion, but then in animal-like self-contradictory muddled thinking, they combine that with punishment-hell inherited from the unbiblical Catholic tradition.

Regardless of his impurity-riddled hyper-Calvinism and his conduct of life, MacArthur is not sanctified yet; he is still in his sin, our original confusion, the Possibilism mental worldmodel. MacArthur has not yet been thoroughly turned by the Holy Spirit of clear thinking to the Eternalism mental worldmodel.

The Catholic tradition, inherited like corrupt DNA by the Reformed supposed “scripture only” tradition, holds that Christianity and the Bible are focused on, and are for the purpose of, going to heaven instead of hell after you die. The Reformed *tradition* is not the Bible. Insofar as the Reformed tradition mixes-in egoic punishment-hell and reward-heaven into no-free-will Eternalism and into the Bible, the Reformed tradition is unbiblical. Like the Churches of Christ non-denomination, discard post-Bible traditions of confessionalism, denominations, and Catholic, pagan-influenced tradition. Live in the New Testament era, no later.

Restrict worship practices per the New Testament. Going beyond the New Testament in worship and purpose is unbiblical and heads toward paganism and Popery and selling indulgences to escape hell or purgatory to get into heaven after you die — a project which increases egoic delusion of freewill moral agency steering in a possibility branching tree, which is a deluded and confused conception of personal power and the shape (topology) of the world, building up the animal-like demonic illusion. Post-Bible tradition leads to profiteering, distracting from comprehending revelation of meaning by the Holy Spirit upon receiving from Christ his body and blood, mushrooms and mushroom wine extraction.

 

Christians incorrectly project New Testament (and later) interpretation back onto the Eden tree tale. The theme of “original sin” is not present within the Eden tree narrative. We must sever-away the New Testament, “original sin” reading, in order to read the Eden tree narrative as it stands in itself. See the book _What Really Happened in the Garden of Eden?_

‘Original sin’ actually means the natural initial misunderstanding and shorthand confusion, held by children, animals (and animal-like demons, figuratively speaking), that the world is open-possibility future (Possibilism) and that we have meta-steering power, egoic control power, to steer in kingly fashion into any of the possibility branches. When we cast out demonic confusion, the mind recognizes and repudiates the original sin, adopting Eternalism with a single, preset, pre-existing future, and a snake-shaped invisible railway frozen like a marble statue suspended in the spacetime rock block.

 

Reformed thinkers incorrectly project the Catholic tradition, the Catholic religion of “Christianity is about going to heaven instead of hell after you die”, back onto the Holy Bible. The theme of “Christianity is about going to heaven instead of hell after you die” is not present within the Bible, Old Testament, or New Testament. See N.T. Wright, and Rob Bell (Love Wins). We must sever-away the Catholic, “Christianity is about going to heaven instead of hell after you die” reading, in order to read the Bible, Old Testament, and New Testament narrative as it stands in itself.

The gospel is not instructions on how to go to heaven not hell after death.

What ‘the gospel’ actually is:

Simply Good News: Why the Gospel Is News and What Makes It Good

N. T. Wright

January 6, 2015

http://www.amazon.com/Simply-Good-News-Gospel-Makes/dp/0062334344/

 

The Bible, after later Catholic tradition is deleted, isn’t about how to go to reward-heaven instead of punishment-hell after you bodily die. The Bible is about awakening to the kingship or steering controllership of the Creator of the spacetime block including your entire pre-set frozen stream of thoughts frozen into the past and future. The set of the Elect awaken consciously to the kingship kingdom of God, of Jesus who awakens us and restores us to wholeness (nonduality) and is the avatar of God, displacing such claims by humans such as Caesar Augustus.

The purpose, project, focus, and motivating concern of the Bible is to support deluded childish thinkers doing good prior to initiatory revelation and mental-model turning, and to then reveal for adults the Eternalism mental worldmodel. The Bible in its mature adult revelatory phase is powered by the psychoactive mixed wine, which is the vehicle for the power of the Holy Spirit. The Bible activated by the Holy Spirit in mixed mushroom wine and mushroom bread turns the mind away from the Possibilism mental worldmodel.

The Bible used a strategy of leveraging the altered-state Holy Spirit power revelation toward constructing a just, egalitarian social-political system, against and in rebuttal to Roman Imperial Theology. This strategy is given to the Elect frozen into the spacetime block, even as the Roman Imperial strategy of Caesar Augustus and Jupiter is given to its followers frozen into the spacetime block.

The New Testament is a rebuttal to how the Roman Imperial system used mushroom mixed wine to justify the hierarchical system of society. The New Testament presented a contradictory possibility of using mushroom mixed wine to justify instead an egalitarian system of society. Hierarchy favors the few at the top who hold the most power. Egalitarianism favors the majority at the bottom and middle of the power pyramid, and that is why egalitarian anti-hierarchy Christianity, as a social-support network modelled on the synagogue system was numerically popular and victorious and spread quickly.

 

Mark Driscoll of crashed-and-burned Mar$ Hill Church (it died a few days ago at the end of 2014, due to excess bad judgment), invaded MacArthur’s Strange Fire conference in a stunt to try to promote his latest plagiarized book that used payola to inflate it into phony “bestseller” status. Christianity Today — the publication of SATAN, of pseudo-Christianity for outsiders, who Jesus doesn’t recognize as his — says that this deception, gaming the system, against the efforts of the New York Times bestseller list, is fine and is not unethical. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/warrenthrockmorton/2015/01/07/eric-metaxas-to-christianity-today-getting-on-best-seller-lists-is-good-stewardship/

— The Michael Channel

_____________________________________________________

Strange Fire: The Danger of Offending the Holy Spirit with Counterfeit Worship

John MacArthur

November 12, 2013

http://www.amazon.com/Strange-Fire-Offending-Counterfeit-Worship/dp/1400205174/

From the publisher:

“What would God say about those who blatantly misrepresent His Holy Spirit; who exchange true worship for chaotic fits of mindless ecstasy; who replace the biblical gospel with vain illusions of health and wealth; who claim to prophesy in His name yet speak errors; and who sell false hope to desperate people for millions of dollars?

The charismatic movement has always been a breeding-ground for scandal, greed, bad doctrine, and all kinds of spiritual chicanery. As a movement, it is clearly headed the wrong direction. And it is growing at an unprecedented rate.

From the Word of Faith to the New Apostolic Reformation, the Charismatic movement is being consumed by the empty promises of the prosperity gospel. Too many charismatic celebrities promote a “Christianity” without Christ, a Holy Spirit without holiness. And their teaching is having a disastrous influence on a grand scale, as large television networks broadcast their heresies to every part of the world.

In Strange Fire, bestselling author and pastor John MacArthur chronicles the unsavory history behind the modern Charismatic movement. He lays out a chilling case for rejecting its false prophets, speaking out against their errors, showing true reverence to the Holy Spirit, and above all clinging to the Bible as the inerrant, authoritative Word of God and the one true standard by which all truth claims must be tested.”
Group: egodeath Message: 6702 From: egodeath Date: 09/01/2015
Subject: Re: My correction of today’s Christianity
I suspect that Luther and Calvin and hyper-Calvinists knew that punishment-hell contradicts hyper-Reformed no-free-will and is unBiblical, but they knowingly and strategically retained the freewill Catholic doctrine of “Jesus died so you can go to heaven instead of hell after you die” cynically to control and threaten the masses.

This would explain the unbelievable blatant contradiction that Frank obvious contradiction between transcendent (Eternalism) hyper-Calvinism and egoic (Possibilism) punishment-hell.

— Michael Hoffman, the theorist of ego death
Group: egodeath Message: 6703 From: egodeath Date: 09/01/2015
Subject: Re: My correction of today’s Christianity
When John MacArthur, guilty of Serious Literalism (lower, outsider Crhistianity) states gravely “Souls are at risk, in charismatic heresy!”, he is spouting Catholic heresy! in that his mental association network considers the goal of salvation to be the Catholic doctrine that The gospel is that Jesus died to so that we may go to Heaven instead of hell after we die — that we *deserve* (that’s egoic free will thinking) punishment, eternal conscious torment (ECT) in hell.

Yes souls are at risk of remaining in their sin that is failing to awaken as an adult to Eternalism, failing to be predestined to ingest mushrooms mixed wine which is the forceful calls of turning our attention around repenting and adopting and seeing Eternalism.

Those lost souls are predestined to remain in their delusion of vulnerability to freewill ego-punishment-hell instead of getting their hoped for freewill ego reward in heaven after they bodily die.

My predestined mission assignment is to reveal the gospel to the entire world, that God’s just kingdom has arrived for those who are predestined to be made by Jesus to ingest Jesus’ mushroom mixed-wine at his banquet, and be thereby hung on the illusory multi-possibility tree with him, united and married to him in the body of Christ.

— Michael the Archangel, helpless puppet of God frozen in space time rock unchanging.

I only speak the words that God puts in my mouth.
Group: egodeath Message: 6704 From: egodeath Date: 09/01/2015
Subject: Eternalist Entheogenic Catholicism Throughout Spacetime Rock Block
My Catholic brothers tripping suspended in spacetime rock — all traditions have some saveed regenerated minds turned to look behind them to see:

Metaphoricity

Eternalism

through

loose mental association
through
Entheogens fated

That Entheogenic loose cognitive Eternalism experiential realization and fated revelation IS Happening to Catholics here and there — it is not happening to the hyper Calvinist Protestants very much either. but one must be cautious in

Do not underestimate the power of the force of Entheogen Eternalism spread like spiritual pneumatic annointing seed throughout the frozen spacetime rock.

There is banqueting and Salviafic freezing into 4-D Rock here and there having a filtering affect to gather mystic altered state metaphor themes in myth and religious lore.

Supreme Court, don’t underestimate the extent of Christ’s Holy Entheogens revealing Eternalism (the ultimate religious tradition of revelation) within all traditions.

Recent books proved that all the famous Catholic mystics tripped out on plant drugs, that was the source of their inspiration to tell their devotional mystical tall tales and metaphors while meaning-shifting from the possibility meaning network to the eternity meaning network.

Catholic mystics wrote scientifically about the cognitive science of the experiential shift from Possibilism to Eternalism.

But those books were burned.

My great question is:

To what extent were visionary plants used throughout our own Christian history?

But a better question even than that is:


To what extent have people throughout history used visionary plants and fully undergone and understood an experiential shift from Possibilism vs. Eternalism?


This happens frequently throughout the space time block of human history, in all religions, all systems of transcendent knowledge, all areas, all regions, in all times.

It’s the same as with advanced tricks in electric guitar equipment usage: people repeatedly discover equipment approaches, but these do not become mainstream and they have to be re-discovered in isolated spots. The general population of guitar users remains unaware of them and and practice

You have to continually repeatedly rediscover the techniques yourself; this special knowledge stays below the threshold of propagation that’s needed for it to become common knowledge.

Individuals have the experiential shift from possibility to eternity world model, but this remains fragmented and does not become mainstream much.

There is always an ongoing selection process to preserve the best metaphor description of the visionary plant experiential shift from the possibility to eternity mental model.

Myth has been preserved largely to the extent that myth resonates with the Eternalist Entheogen revelation.


Focusing on loose cognitive processing versus focusing on entheogens

My Phase 1 work deliberately avoided focusing on the chemical and deliberately put all focus on what I would later identify with cognitive science. That is my leading-edge custom-designed innovative framework of thinking in terms of mental construct processing (MCP), loose mental association state, loose mental functioning binding (LMFB).

I developed this conceptual terminology as soon as I switched from prose paragraphs in 1986 to a reset at a particular identifiable point in time around April with the start of a new binder of Pentel P205 pencil on spacious ruled binder sheets with heavy use of acronyms, instead of fornal sentences in a smaller more cramped blank book the blank books.


Binder sheets expansive, versus blank books cramped and ill-prepared for expansive thought

I only intended to fill-in the few pages of the first blank book in order to in January 1986 stop having cross time control integrity malfunction, so that I would plan and do my homework and studies.

I expected to do for far too many things and had poor sense of that my only priority was should be studying.

I thought it would be two weeks at most to figure out ego transcendence Scientifically and rationally and how personal control works and how to not have malfunctioning personal self control power across time, such as planning to study STEM and then recording Rock albums instead and experimenting with electric guitar.

I didn’t have good idea development techniques because I didn’t think I needed them. The project seemed too small to bother.

By March 1987 I was getting good at thinking profoundly and confident in getting insights into thinking immediately every day. Like a giant Titan, my mental power was growing and I needed better pencil and paper technique.

I stepped all the way back and asked what am I trying to accomplish here exactly, and I used acronym notation around April 1987 and my thinking innovation really took off from there, breaking through January 1988, combining personal non-control of Watts with block time of Minkowski, together with my custom tuned terminology and theory of the loose cognitive association state.

Music and now lots of added electric guitar and the college bands musician network continued to take top priority. The deadhead and musician network gave me high inspiration. 1967 was 19 years in the past, a generation, dead but not long dead, and now in 2015 1967 and 1986 seem about one year apart. The 80s were an echo of the 60s.

I was at the peak: 1987, 1988 I did my greatest work, in the second psychedelic UK rave summer of love. Sgt. Pepper finally came out and it was a big deal you could hear the piano bench squeak at the end it was more time travel bandwidth into the recording studio then people ever had on vinyl 1987 was a more solid tunnel, window, tele-phone into 1967 then 1968 was, in terms of fidelity and clarity. Various psychedelic albums were becoming available in perfect ideal (so we thought) format.

Sometimes we wonder why some CDs sounded so murky, because they were random nth generation copies of master tapes. I need caress of steel on remastered cd. My vinyl sounds better than my quick job CD from who knows what generation tape copies. My poor cd does not make me feel time travel into 1975 recording studio.

— Michael Hoffman, the theorist of ego death
Group: egodeath Message: 6705 From: egodeath Date: 09/01/2015
Subject: Turning around Supreme Court’s fallacious assumption
Dear U.S. Supreme Court:

Stop listening to that pop-culture buffoon, Terence McKenna, who falsely cried that the Catholic church never used psychedelic plants equivalent to the Indians’ peyote. McKenna accused the Catholic church of always substituting regular wine for the traditional, authentic, psychoactive mushroom mixed-wine.

His accusation was not the conclusion of any sustained research; it was merely a thoughtless and unsustainable assumption motivated by wanting to slander and delegitimate the Catholic church.

White man has a strong tradition of psychedelic mushrooms in the Bible and throughout Christian practice, since the New Testament was written, and since our ancient Greek heritage with mixed-wine banqueting, and since our Old Testament heritage, all through the entire span of our own, white, European, Mediterranean cultural historical traditional mainstream practice.

You argued that Indians may be permitted to use their peyote (mescaline, a psychedelic) because they have used it for a “long time”, where “long time” is defined as 1900, 100 years prior to your verdict.

You state as a fact the baseless, uncritical, taken-as-granted assumption that white man has no psychedelic tradition in Christianity. This is completely false and the opposite of the truth.

You are using outsider misinterpretation of religion, criticized by Jesus as incomprehension of his meaning, to dictate insider religious practice. Insiders, those who comprehend Jesus’ meaning, cannot let the outsiders dictate based on misunderstanding and spiritual blindness, our authentic religious practices that are the tradition.

The New Testament psychoactive mixed wine banqueting tradition ever since year 30 AD and Augustus Caesar, used for the insiders, psychoactive mushroom concentrate mixed-wine diluted with water, as in ancient Greek banqueting tradition and tradition all throughout our Greco-Roman culture in religious banqueting parties and in all of the mystery religions, including emperor cult per Plecket’s article.

Your argument that Indians may use peyote because of their tradition since 1900, actually implies that white man may use mushrooms and the equivalent in our mainstream Christian practice.

Against your baseless assumption that rests on no research or critical thinking whatsoever, we have a tradition of ingesting visionary plants as the main meaning of the New Testament reception of the Holy Spirit when receiving wine and bread from Christ that opens our eyes to see clearly and no longer be spiritually blind — since long, long before the year 1900.

Whites’ use of visionary plants as the origin and mainstream practice of our religion goes back to the year 30 and ancient Greece of 500 BC, the Old Testament era, and back into the most ancient prehistory, as early as the earliest contrast of tree vs. snake in the garden of Eden, and the Greek garden of the hesperides, in primordial time.

Our Biblical religious mythic metaphor, based on very ancient Near East traditions, describes the use of visionary plants revealing an intense experiential shift from the possibility mental world model (a branching tree) to the eternity mental worldmodel (snake-shaped world lines frozen in block time per Einstein and Minkowski 1908).

Tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism, a most-traditional realization revealed by psychoactive plants since greatest antiquity. Jesus commands and predestines us to ingest his mushroom bread he gives us and to drink his mushroom wine he gives us.

You took the wrong, false side in opposing Jesus’ command and predestined delivery to us of his healing medicine which transforms our mental world model, turns us to look back behind our thinking and see the true source of our thoughts in God’s creation rather than in ourselves as the ultimate authors of our thoughts.

Check your religious assumptions and change your thinking to align with Christ’s delivery of visionary plants through the core and heart of our religion’s tradition.

Our strong White tradition is thoroughly grounded in Greek antiquity as reflected in myth and mystery religion.

Entheogen scholars such as Carl Ruck, Mark Hoffman, Clark Heinrich, Dan Merkur, and I have easily proved and demonstrated that visionary plants such as mushrooms are the thoroughly the backbone of mainstream religious practice in Greek, Roman, Jewish, and Christian history. There is no shortage of evidence for this; there is an abundance, a plethora of evidence including the evidence of depictions and descriptions of visionary plant induced experiencing in myth.

White man’s religious tradition of visionary plants, at the very heart and core of our own traditional practice, goes much further back than the Indians’ practice which you used to justify their peyote use, to the Old Testament.

The Old Testament contains myth which is metaphor describing the use of the visionary plants to reveal the eternity world model and perceiving God’s control of his creation and God’s authorship of all thoughts that are embedded in His Creation.

Your argument in favor of allowing peyote use by Indians logically necessitates that you even more so permit white man to continue his strong inspired tradition that is Christian religion, to use and continue using, as we always have throughout our Protestant Reformed, Catholic, Christian, Jewish, Greek, ancient Roman, and Ancient Near East history, mushroom mixed wine and equivalent visionary plants as the vehicle for the Holy Spirit in our religious traditional practice.

This practice was not eliminated with the beginning of the Catholic church. We have easily more than enough evidence to demonstrate that the practice of visionary plants as the Eucharistic vehicle of the Holy Spirit always continued, in official theology and in folk Catholic practice.

My grandfather’s mother in Oklahoma was American Indian. I grew up within the Jewish temple and in the Churches of Christ, Restorationist movement, which strives in its practice to restrict itself to mimicking and reproducing the New Testament worship practice, and strives to reject all later post-biblical tradition, confessionalism, and denominationalism.

— Michael Hoffman, the interdisciplinary theorist of ego death
Copyright (C) 2015 Michael S. Hoffman (Egodeath.com). All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6706 From: egodeath Date: 09/01/2015
Subject: Re: Michael
The only possible way to cure religion is by being religion, by standing within the very wellspring of religion, and being much more religious than the religious who are mere outsiders.

Atheists who don’t know the ego death theory are incapable of comprehending religious mythic metaphor meaning and are incapable of killing bad religion and giving birth to bona fide revelation.

This is how the preset block universe, that dictates everyone’s thoughts and actions, is constitutionally structured by the Creator.

— Michael the Archangel
Group: egodeath Message: 6707 From: egodeath Date: 10/01/2015
Subject: Re: Michael
The only sense in which it is possible to get rid of religion, is to displace illegitimate religion and replace it by authentic religion.

It is certainly not possible to eliminate authentic religion, given that the no-free-will rationality which atheists call for is precisely the content and nature of what is revealed in authentic religion, which is a matter of *recognizing* the meaning and the agreement, as when atheist Eastern spirituality advocate and Cognitive Scientist Sam Harris calls for casting out the demon delusion of free will, sacrificing our childish thinking, and purifying our mental model of the world and our power within it.

— Michael Hoffman, the theorist of ego death
Group: egodeath Message: 6708 From: egodeath Date: 10/01/2015
Subject: ‘God’ is a label for the meta-steering control that we don’t have

Talk about ‘God’ is talk about the aspects of the human mind which the sense of local control agency cannot control. God-talk proceeds and comes from talking about these mystically revealed limitations on personal control power across time. When we mystical enlightened people talk about ‘God’, we are more talking about the limits on personal control. ‘God’ refers to what’s left over after you identify how our control is profoundly limited. My thoughts are frozen into the spacetime block and are given to me. I have no control, *in a certain sense*.

 

My thoughts are created and controlled, but I as local agent have partial control. The remainder of control of my thoughts is called “God” or “Controller X”. God is the part of my thought-control power that I as local control agent cannot control but can only passively, like the inherently female psyche, receive. ‘God’ is defined as the higher uncontrollable portion of my control system, of my control over my thoughts. Same with ‘Creator’. I as local controller lack a kind of ‘creation’ power, but my thoughts have been created, so the remainder of creation power, we label as ‘God’.


— Michael Hoffman, the intense experiential Egodeath theorist

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Group: egodeath Message: 5577 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 19/11/2011
Subject: Caduceus: mycopercep shows sep ctrl-lev relations/harmony
Group: egodeath Message: 5578 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: Axiom-driven extreme simplification ultra-powerful
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Group: egodeath Message: 5580 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: Rod/spear/axis/pole = demo of hi lev’s ctrl of lo lev ctrlr
Group: egodeath Message: 5581 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: Re: Caduceus: mycopercep shows sep ctrl-lev relations/harmony
Group: egodeath Message: 5582 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: Re: Caduceus: mycopercep shows sep ctrl-lev relations/harmony
Group: egodeath Message: 5583 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: Re: Rod/spear/axis/pole = demo of hi lev’s ctrl of lo lev ctrlr
Group: egodeath Message: 5584 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: JHVH as infinite hierarchical regress
Group: egodeath Message: 5585 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: Re: Rod/spear/axis/pole = demo of hi lev’s ctrl of lo lev ctrlr
Group: egodeath Message: 5586 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: Control-levels concord pact applied to nations/war
Group: egodeath Message: 5587 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: Hermaphrodite, sun&moon-headed body
Group: egodeath Message: 5588 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: The Hammer of Interpretation
Group: egodeath Message: 5589 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: Re: The Hammer of Interpretation
Group: egodeath Message: 5590 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: Maximally condensed summary of Transcendent Knowledge
Group: egodeath Message: 5591 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Re: Maximally condensed summary of Transcendent Knowledge
Group: egodeath Message: 5592 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Proof by trial test demo of Noncontrol/Fatedness
Group: egodeath Message: 5593 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Re: Proof by trial test demo of Noncontrol/Fatedness
Group: egodeath Message: 5594 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Re: Maximally condensed summary of Transcendent Knowledge
Group: egodeath Message: 5595 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Split ctrl-model to 2 parts, -delu., perceive/map T’t
Group: egodeath Message: 5596 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Re: Maximally condensed summary of Transcendent Knowledge
Group: egodeath Message: 5597 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Wheat vs. Chaff: m-model of thot-src vs junk part of ego
Group: egodeath Message: 5598 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Two accompanying up/down torchbearers, thieves, etc
Group: egodeath Message: 5599 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
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Group: egodeath Message: 5600 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Re: Two accompanying up/down torchbearers, thieves, etc
Group: egodeath Message: 5601 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Achilles’ Heel = unctrlble source of ctrl-thoughts/ctrl-power
Group: egodeath Message: 5602 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Re: Maximally condensed summary of Transcendent Knowledge
Group: egodeath Message: 5603 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
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Group: egodeath Message: 5604 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
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Group: egodeath Message: 5605 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
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Group: egodeath Message: 5606 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Snake/krater/panther under bull/chariot,
Group: egodeath Message: 5607 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
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Group: egodeath Message: 5608 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Re: Snake/krater/panther under bull/chariot,
Group: egodeath Message: 5609 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 22/11/2011
Subject: Pagan relig died bc Fate was rejected
Group: egodeath Message: 5610 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 22/11/2011
Subject: One-foot limping king lost sandal
Group: egodeath Message: 5611 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 22/11/2011
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Group: egodeath Message: 5612 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 22/11/2011
Subject: Psyche = penetrated receptacle female thought-receiver
Group: egodeath Message: 5613 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: Amanita = King of Enth metaph; psil = superior fx
Group: egodeath Message: 5614 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: ‘entheogens’ = noncontrol-revealers, anti-cyberdelics
Group: egodeath Message: 5615 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: thoughtsource/thotreceiver before/during/after initiation
Group: egodeath Message: 5616 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: Refactoring the Core theory per mythic metaphors
Group: egodeath Message: 5617 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: Prometheus stole firre, chained, eagle eats liver forever
Group: egodeath Message: 5618 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: Myth as a riddling Sphinx
Group: egodeath Message: 5619 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: Re: Graves-Wasson enth theory 1960, Hall 1925, S. 1845
Group: egodeath Message: 5620 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: The Son of Man, given/destined for sacrifice so eter life/forgv sins
Group: egodeath Message: 5621 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: fountain in a cave
Group: egodeath Message: 5622 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: Mythic metaphor code fully cracked
Group: egodeath Message: 5623 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: thread of computer instructions/commands
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Subject: Re: Two accompanying up/down torchbearers, thieves, etc



Group: egodeath Message: 5577 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 19/11/2011
Subject: Caduceus: mycopercep shows sep ctrl-lev relations/harmony
The Caduceus means better perception to see control-level relationships and establish harmonious peaceful accord between control levels rather than fearing the higher, hidden, uncontrollable control level that makes you have your control-thoughts. The caduceus is a testament, a contract of accord from the gods to man, or between the two control levels that steer the course of our lives.

The healing, mentally harmonious message that is forced upon your thoughts by the gods who pull your neural puppet strings is: your eye of awareness is lifted up on a pole and with wings to perceive that there are two separated levels of control in your mind, that need to work together in harmony: a lower, subservient controller-snake and a higher control-level snake, both control-levels perceiving each other and standing in a balanced, harmonious, healthy, calm relationship.

Ouroboros *actually* and primarily means what? First generally, religious metaphor, by definition, must mean:
1: cybernetic relationships/dynamics
2: heimarmene aspects
3: loose cognition and increased perception

Egoic and transcendent levels of control are put in harmony; balance cybercontrol systems or cybercontrol levels as in the caduceus message from the gods to initiates.

Not a vague disembodied flying eye, but rather, specifically, the eye in mythic art means “the ability to now perceive cybercontrol relationships”. flame = increased perception; new ability to perceive something that couldn’t be perceived before. A flame (per HKN version of caduceus) over 2 snakes enables perceiving 2 snakes. Most generally, snake = cybercontrol relationships. So snake on caduceus, on pole, ouroboros, means “knowledge of cybercontrol principles/relationships”; or “cybercontrol knowledge/wisdom”. The serpent means cybercontrol perception and knowledge.

Michael pinning the serpent means cybercontrol knowledge, or understanding of cybercontrol; cybercontrol understanding.

Moses’ snake on pole means render visible, display, cybernetic relationships and heimarmene. As in “remember this, always see this”; always keep this in mind; remember this: cybernetics in light of the presetness of your heimarmene-worldline. “Understand cybercontrol” — which includes the cybercontrol aspects of heimarmene. “comprehend cybercontrol”; “apprehend cybercontrol”. See and understand cybercontrol dynamics and relationships.

The “knob” on the caduceus is the elevated eyeball of increased awareness and perception, raised up to perceive the cybernetic levels relationship.


The 2 different control-level snakes that propel us are in a harmonious relationship, resulting in:
o peace
o integration
o a fully functional relationship
o non-dysfunctional control
o properly functioning control
o right control
o proper control
o correct control
o cybercorrectness


Per the correct application of the Procrustean method of forced interpretation, to produce the One Really True interpretation: the Caduceus *must* mean perceiving cybernetic noncontrol and heimarmene via the entheogenic state. How can the caduceus symbol be forced to mean perceiving cybernetic noncontrol and heimarmene via the entheogenic state?

The serpent in myth means one thing towering above all other meanings: heimarmene; the shape of the worldline in the simplest possible spacetime block
world-model, and heimarmene in relation to cybernetic non-control, or better, revealing of two levels of control, or levels of steering, with one level of control (steering) completely forcefully driving or steering the other level of control.

The two distinctly different snakes perceive each other on the caduceus: one is the lone snake at the egoic control level, and the other is the infinite-regress state. The one snake is a cybernetic control gear driven by the other.

The caduceus, two snakes in various images (the low-high pair of anythings: two torchbearers, two rebel bandits on crosses, two sons of Laokoon), represents an understanding of the driven-gear cybernetic relationship.

The caduceus — the specific message from the gods, or among the gods and fates and mortals and heroes — carried by The Trickster! — represents an understanding of all of these types of relationships:

1. The logically, cybernetically problematic nature of autonomous personal control.

2. The wrath and panic and terrifying, dread loss-of-control instability that results when egoic thinking first confronts the normally imperceptible, uncontrollable source of its control-thoughts.

3. The driven/driver control-relationship.


One humanoid escapee
One android on the run
Seeking freedom beneath a lonely desert sun
Trying to change its program
Trying to change the mode
Images conflicting into data overload

1-0-0-1-0-0-1
S.O.S.
1-0-0-1-0-0-1
In distress
1-0-0-1-0-0

Memory banks unloading
Bytes break into bits
Unit One’s in trouble and it’s scared out of its wits
Guidance systems break down
A struggle to exist — to resist
A pulse of dying power in a clenching plastic fist

It replays each of the days
A hundred years of routines
Bows its head and prays
To the mother of all machines


— The Electric Professor


Rod = staff = spear to pierce liver to cause “inevitable death” ie “death by heimarmene” = egodeath by perceiving heimarmene/egoic noncontrol. Thus long straight object = egodeath by perceiving heimarmene.

To say and feel and perceive — from the elevated-on-a-pole perspective, the caught-up tangled in a tree perspective — that I can’t change or make my thoughts in the present moment, is to say that I have no power (of any substantiality) over my life, in relation to the block universe. I appear to have power, but from a higher perspective, I’m a driven gear embedded in changeless 4D spacetime.

What’s so offensive about heimarmene? The presetness of my control-thoughts is what is poisonously offensive, a fatal snake-bite to my egoic soul. Presetness
= noncontrol at the egoic level. If my control-thoughts are preset, that exactly means that my egoic control power is (in a profound sense) an empty illusion.

I have power over my thoughts in one sense, but in a profound sense I have no power at all over my thoughts, I don’t exist at all to have even slight power
over my thoughts, to originate, create, or change my thoughts.


Ken Wilber’s “fear of death” and “death grins in” in his early books is nonsense, completely off-track, totally clueless and irrelevant: he fails to recognize the death-panic of ego upon seeing that it cannot control the separate source of its control-thoughts. Out of all the thousands of ideas smooshed together in the systems he tries to integrate, this particular idea towers above the rest, and any attempted explanation of religion needs to put appropriate emphasis on this particular idea — which Integral Theory does not.


The perception of two centers of control represented in the caduceus disturbs egoic control stability and restores it; poisons and fatally wounds ego to death by spearing the liver, and heals and calms and restores stability of personal cybernetic control. The caduceus concretely represents specifically *these* ideas, all of them at once.

Snake is worldline-path shaped, indicating understanding of the presetness and fatedness of your entire life past, present, future, floating in the stone-like changeless
spacetime block universe. Heimarmene controls you, therefore the egoic local visible you as a control-idea actually has non-control; the kuberne tes (steering agent) does *not* have primary control.

How can the dancing pair of snakes be forced by Procrustes to mean “perceiving cybernetic noncontrol and heimarmene via the entheogenic state”? The elevated-perspective loosecog state reveals, makes visible and illuminated, that there are 2 centers of control — a higher driving and a lower subservient driven level — not a single autonomous locus of control.

The twin snakes are the 2 levels of control in us self-controlling agents, as driving-gear and driven-gear.

Before cybernetic cognition is illuminated by mushrooms to reveal it, there’s the initial appearance of egoic autonomy. During increased perception, control is seen as a lower driven level (egoic control area) and a higher driving level (thoughts lying preset in the transcendent spacetime block of heimarmene). That seeing breaks the illusion of egoic autonomous control, and reveals egoic thinking as merely driven, thus killing its appearance of wielding power as a power source, or source of cybernetic steering-ability.

Egoic thinking is not an actual *source* (in a strong sense) of cybernetic steering power, but is merely a pre-set *conduit* of steering power, with all control-thoughts given and set by the block universe as the real source and determiner of what is being thought in the ego-shaped thinking (or mind) at all time-slices.

The caduceus represents loosecog, hidden transcendent control, and apparent egoic control. Awareness is neither egoic cybercontrol functioning nor the transcendent source of control-thoughts. Dove = Eagle = wings = Holy Spirit = ecstasy = increased perception, increased visibility, to perceive that egoic control doesn’t control the source of its control-thoughts.


God = Jupiter = one snake = the transcendent source of control-thoughts.

Jesus = Caesar = other snake = egoic cybercontrol functioning.

Dove = Eagle = elevated eye = increased perception, increased visibility, to perceive that egoic control doesn’t control the source of its control-thoughts, and = harmonious relation and unity, marriage, of the two domains of control that steer our minds and lives.


Hermes is the messenger. A messenger carries a message. Hermes carries a caduceus. The caduceus is the message carried from the gods to mortals. What is the message? Read the message. The components of the message: rod with knob atop; 2 snakes facing each other, interwoven/interlinked; wings.

The message of the caduceus reads: “In the ecstatic loosecog state with awareness-perspective lifted up (raised, heightened, elevated, increased), perceive the heimarmene snake as one locus of control, and egoic personal control as the other locus of control, and these two meshing levels perceive each other; the snakes look at each other in harmonious accord and mutual dependence.

After initiation, egoic control relies on the transcendent source of control-thoughts, and always the transcendent source of control thoughts relies on and utilizes egoic control-shaped thinking.

Perceiving heimarmene acting as the uncontrollable source of your control-thoughts kills and harms your former self, but then the egoic self is restored to stability and healed and cured by standing in conscious awareness of the relationship between the two levels or locii of control.


We shall call you Cygnus
The god of Balance you shall be


Copyright (C) 2011 Michael Hoffman. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 5578 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: Axiom-driven extreme simplification ultra-powerful
Math axioms are functionally equivalent to vehement dogma and creedal confessionalism. Logical propositions, propositional logic, rules, have a severe strictness to them. This strictness is accustomed in Engineering, so that the Engineer isn’t even conscious of giving assent voluntarily into the strict contract struck with logic; chaining himself as a slave to the contract of logic.

This is the power of Analytic Philosophy and Propositional Logic. My main article is written in such axiom-driven style but can be taken to a more rigorous, simplifying, mathematical extreme of absolutism and extremist simplification.


Axiom 1: Cybernetics —
Dogmatic doctrinaire confessional creed fundamentalist axiom absolutist dictate of the Transcendent Truth about Cybernetics:

Before perception is increased per Axiom 3, personal cybernetic control is mentally structured or modelled as a single, autonomous center of control. After perception is increased, personal cybernetic control is mentally structured or modelled as two distinct levels of control, the higher one a driver of the other, driven one. All control-thoughts are forced onto the lower level by the higher level as the normally hidden, uncontrollable source of thoughts.

(All other ideas, variants, or qualifications are anathema; are counter-axiomatic and are a priori not permitted of consideration.)


Axiom 2: Heimarmene —
Dogmatic doctrinaire confessional creed fundamentalist axiom absolutist dictate of the Transcendent Truth about Heimarmene:

The future is preset and preexisting and single. Time is a spacelike dimension. Your worldline preexists and floats changelessly in the spacetime block.

(All other ideas, variants, or qualifications are anathema; are counter-axiomatic and are a priori not permitted of consideration.)


Axiom 3: Dissociation —
Dogmatic doctrinaire confessional creed fundamentalist axiom absolutist dictate of the Transcendent Truth about Dissociation:

Religion is the use of ground psilocybin mushrooms in Cabernet Sauvignon mixed with water in a ratio such that the peak loosecog level one kylix (cup) is equivalent to the peak loosecog level from 100 ug of lysergi saure di-ethyl-amide.

These mushrooms cause loose mental functioning binding, which increases perception of personal control cybernetic dynamics.

(All other ideas, variants, or qualifications are anathema; are counter-axiomatic and are a priori not permitted of consideration.)


Axiom 4: Metaphor —
Dogmatic doctrinaire confessional creed fundamentalist axiom absolutist dictate of the Transcendent Truth about Metaphor:

Religious myth is metaphorical description of taking mushrooms to increase perception of personal control cybernetics dynamics per Axiom 1 and heimarmene per Axiom 2.

(All other ideas, variants, or qualifications are anathema; are counter-axiomatic and are a priori not permitted of consideration.)


Axiom 5: Ahistoricity —
Dogmatic doctrinaire confessional creed fundamentalist axiom absolutist dictate of the Transcendent Truth about Ahistoricity:

Jesus, Paul, and all the Ancient Church Fathers are ahistorical. Ancient Christianity didn’t exist in Classical Antiquity and was later Photoshopped into the materials of Antiquity by monastics in 1525. There were only 350 years between 476 and 1525, not 1050 years; the Middle Ages were 700 years shorter than the Benedictines’ chronology asserted. 700 is aka 1400. 825 is aka 1525. Per Edwin Johnson.

(All other ideas, variants, or qualifications are anathema; are counter-axiomatic and are a priori not permitted of consideration.)


Axiom 6: Politics —
Dogmatic doctrinaire confessional creed fundamentalist axiom absolutist dictate of the Transcendent Truth about Politics:

The Enlightenment constituted by Axioms 1, 2, and 3 is contended between aristocratic hierarchicalists and egalitarian democrats, such as kings vs. the demos in Athens, and Roman Imperial social-political hierarchy vs. egalitarian house-church Christianity, using and leveraging either of the two possible interpretations of how Enlightenment purportedly advocates one of the two social-political configurations.

(All other ideas, variants, or qualifications are anathema; are counter-axiomatic and are a priori not permitted of consideration.)


These doctrines require absolute affirmation and commitment. No other thoughts are permitted. Any deviation from these infinitely narrow and maximally simple principles is accursed, destined for destruction, gets the guillotine, has negative infinite legitimation, and is anathema.

These axioms forcefully dictate and necessitate each other. To affirm any one is to affirm them all. Each logically implies the others.

You must marry these with full exclusive faithful commitment to them, only; to even look at another position or complexification of any of these fundamental axioms of mandatory assent is full corruption and total confusion, demonic insanity, insurrection, and a hatred-driven attack on mankind. Complete confessional Belief in this creed is demanded. The result of pure total assent to these maximally simple absolute axioms is an ultimate cornucopia, jackpot, and breakthrough into all Wisdom of the Ages.

Axiomatically committing to the simplest possible Theory of religious revelation produces the fastest, most powerful, most coherent, greatest possible 1) breadth of explanatory power, 2) conceptual coherence, and 3) ability to map to other theories, per Paul Thagard’s metatheory in Conceptual Revolutions.

The doorway to the core engine of mystery religion and wisdom traditions must be the soonest, simplest, most basic, most comprehensible model. The top priority by far is to build a complete-closure theory that is the very simplest possible theory; by definition, the lightning path is the shortest possible electrical distance between the earth and sky. The weakest link in the chain inherently breaks first.

This is an Achilles’ heel effect: what’s the weakest, most vulnerable point in your thinking? That is the measure of the most fundamental, important, important, profound, common, relevant, powerful, elementary, gateway-like Theory. That is the most desirable theory: the theory which cannot be matched for simplicity by any other theory.

The best, most effective theory, leading to the fastest, easiest, and perfectly true egodeath self-control seizure revelation and the most harmonious restoration of reconfigured control-configuration, is by definition the simplest theory. The very simplest possible theory is the very best possible theory, by any and all measures. There exists only one theory that is worth anything at all, it is worth everything, and it is whichever theory is simplest.

The utterly simplest possible theory deserves 100% of our allegiance, commitment, and faithfulness; all other theories deserve none, are anathema, and are accursed — destined for destruction.


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Group: egodeath Message: 5579 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: Re: Axiom-driven extreme simplification ultra-powerful
Axioms of the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence making it the simplest and most powerful theory of religious revelation:


The Cybernetics Axiom: Before perception is increased, personal cybernetic control is mentally structured or modelled as a single, autonomous center of control. After perception is increased, personal cybernetic control is mentally structured or modelled as two distinct levels of control, the higher one a driver of the other, driven one. All control-thoughts are forced onto the lower level by the higher level as the normally hidden, uncontrollable source of thoughts.

The Heimarmene Axiom: The future is preset and preexisting and single. Time is a spacelike dimension. Your worldline preexists and floats changelessly in the spacetime block.

The Dissociation Axiom: Religion is the use of psilocybin mushrooms in red wine mixed with water so the loosecog from 1 cup = 100ug LSD. Mushrooms cause loose mental functioning binding, which increases perception of personal control cybernetic dynamics and heimarmene.

The Metaphor Axiom: Religious myth is metaphorical description of taking mushrooms to increase perception of personal control cybernetics dynamics and heimarmene.

The Ahistoricity Axiom: Jesus, Paul, and all the Ancient Church Fathers are ahistorical. Ancient Christianity didn’t exist in Classical Antiquity and was later Photoshopped into the materials of Antiquity by monastics in 1525. There were only 350 years between 476 and 1525, not 1050 years; the Middle Ages were 700 years shorter than the Benedictines’ chronology asserted. 700 is aka 1400. 825 is aka 1525.

The Politics Axiom: Enlightenment is contended between aristocratic hierarchicalists and egalitarian democrats, such as kings vs. the demos in Athens, and Roman Imperial social-political hierarchy vs. egalitarian house-church Christianity, using and leveraging either of the two possible interpretations of how Enlightenment purportedly advocates one of the two social-political configurations.


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Group: egodeath Message: 5580 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: Rod/spear/axis/pole = demo of hi lev’s ctrl of lo lev ctrlr
Rod/spear/axis/pole = demo of hi lev’s ctrl of lo lev ctrlr

The proving that kills the egoic claim to autonomy, is the vertical line. For example, the spine of the caduceus = testing, demonstration, and determination of control-power directionality, which is concluded to flow one-directionally from the transcendent center of control down to the egoic center of control.

wand
rod
pole
thyrsus (fennel stalk) of Dionysus & Maenads
scepter
staff
spear
central tree trunk
world-axis
spine of caduceus

Don’t make the common mistake of vaguely writing “power”; rather, specify insightfully “cybersteering control-power”.

The steersman or ruler has his hand on a rudder-handle, a pole of control and steering (equivalent), steering the ship of state, controlling the lower control-centers that are subject to his control. The spear of heimarmene pierces the liver and the egoic agent so pierced is destined for death by destiny, the ego’s power against the transcendent has been tested and disproved.

When on mushrooms exploring the revealed two centers of personal cybernetics control dynamics, the mind tests whether the local center of control can control the source of control-thoughts. It can’t. The testing, the demonstration, is a one-way power relationship. The higher center of control controls the lower center of control. The lower center of control cannot control the higher center of control.

Envision the rod, staff, bar, spine of the caduceus, or vertical beam of the Cross as a downward arrow: power flows down from the uncontrollable source of thoughts (including control-thoughts) to the local, egoic, reactive, moved, lower center of control power.

Moses’ rod and snake: the rod is the terrifying testing of control-power, and the snake is one’s preset, changeless worldline floating embedded helplessly in the spacetime block.

Dare to look at and directly perceive the uncontrollable source of your control-thoughts when in the peak window of increased perception — and face The Test of power-trust relationship between your lower, egoic, local and higher, transcendent, remote centers of personal cybernetic control.

The Test kills egoic delusion, the claim of simple single-center autonomy of personal control — if that egoic self-concept hasn’t been Put To The Test already: the lower center of cybersteering control power wrestling against the higher center of cybersteering control power. The higher center is always inevitably predestined to win this contest which is no contest for the higher is the very source of the control-thoughts of the lower level controller.

How can the woman win the wrestling, when the very source of her power and decisions in the battle are given to her by the Man? Like some rite in Mithraic initiation, he has her by the b*lls; that is, he has full control of her mind’s source of control-thoughts. He is even the very source of her desire to fight and rebel against him, testing him. Control-power flows strictly in one direction: from higher to lower.

Thus in a Control Systems diagram, the upper box is the God (Transcendent) control center, and the lower box is the Jesus (Egoic) control center, and the direction of control flows strictly from God to Jesus: thus the Dove of Harmonious Peaceful Accord flies downward from God to Jesus, serving as the arrowhead on the directional arrow from the Transcendent control-center down to the Egoic control-center.

The Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence is superior to all other theories of religion in many ways. It can be scientifically tested by the community of testers/observers. Drink watered-down wine. With increased perception, observe the source of your thoughts. Try to control the source of your thoughts.

Try to prevent the thought from occurring, “Oh no, S.O.S., a thought is possibly about to arise of me losing control and thinking that I’ve been timelessly predestined to lose control, and there’s nothing I can do to stop that.” Try fighting against your own source of thoughts, and experience Wrath and control seizure/instability.

Then try putting your full trust in the source of your thoughts as if you are a vulnerable weak woman who is totally at the mercy of her husband and who always has been in that situation; pray to the higher level source of your thoughts to love you and be loved and trusted by you; and repudiate your claim to be an autonomous independent center of control.

Confirm that peace, harmony, and self-accord among your lower and higher control centers is reached. Experience the sacred marriage and imperishable stable state with transformed mental model of yourself as control center, now seen as a dancing relationship between two distinct control levels, the lower subservient to and dependent on, and helplessly at the mercy of, the uncontrollable higher center of control.

The vertical line is the testing and proving that there is a one-way power relationship from higher to lower, given that the higher is the source of the control-thoughts of the lower. Thus:

line = “my transcendent center of control has full power over my egoic center of control”

Rosicrucian Invisible College shows a high-to-low control-directionality line from JHVH down to the stably anchored philosopher in the lower right. Picture a dove as arrowhead flying downward along that line.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath/photos/album/516071947/pic/5907724/view?picmode=large
Wings are used as complementary up and down arrowheads on 4 lines 2/3 up in the picture.

Icon showing Dove flying downward from God to speared-liver Jesus, destined for destruction, destined to die of death by destiny during the control-power levels testing. When Jesus tests whether he can control God, whether he can control the source of his own control-thoughts, he finds he cannot, and his initial claim to independent autonomous control-power dies.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath/photos/album/516071947/pic/2068056640/view?picmode=original



God / Jupiter / Transcendent Control Center
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Jesus / Caesar / Egoic Control Center
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object manipulated by marionette


Now I find peace of mind
Finally found a way of thinking
Tried the rest found the best
Stormy day won’t find me sinking

I can’t conceal it like I know I did before
I got to tell you now the ship is ready
Waiting on the shore/shelf.

Dare to look face the test on the eve
When you set sailing
What you’ve learned what you’ve earned
Ship of joy will stop you failing.

I can’t conceal it like I know I did before
I got to tell you now the ship is ready
Waiting on the shore/shelf.

Wind is high so am I
As the shore sinks in the distance.
Dreams unfold seek the gold.
Gold that’s brighter than sunlight.

Sail away see the day
Dawning on a new horizon
Gold’s insight shining bright
Brighter than the sun that’s rising.

3000 sails on high are straining in the wind
A raging sea below
Is this voyage coming to an end

— Bob Daisley, Sailing the Acid Trip Ocean


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Group: egodeath Message: 5581 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: Re: Caduceus: mycopercep shows sep ctrl-lev relations/harmony
The ouroboros circle around the Wheatstone balance-bridge at top of HKN shield is formed by rays. Rays = Amanita undercap.

Compare JHVH at top of Rosicrucian Invisible College:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath/photos/album/516071947/pic/5907724/view?picmode=large


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Group: egodeath Message: 5582 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: Re: Caduceus: mycopercep shows sep ctrl-lev relations/harmony
The spine of the caduceus = testing, demonstration, and determination of control-power directionality, which is concluded to flow one-directionally from the transcendent center of control down to the egoic center of control.

Heimarmene control-power is greater above and lesser below; thus the snakes are bigger at top than bottom. Serpents represent cybersteering control-power. There is more of that power up at the transcendent level than down at the egoic level, and even less at the marionette level. Suppose God controls Fate.

God — great serpent power
Fate — large serpent power
Man — small serpent power
Marionette — tiny serpent power


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Group: egodeath Message: 5583 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: Re: Rod/spear/axis/pole = demo of hi lev’s ctrl of lo lev ctrlr
A chain held by JHVH’s hand-from-clouds, down to Sophia, who holds a chain, down to the monkey: directional control from transcendent to egoic levels, from divine to human levels.
Group: egodeath Message: 5584 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: JHVH as infinite hierarchical regress
< below, means “controls”

Consider the divine Royal We as meaning *hierarchical* gods, not parallel gods; eg:
Demeter < Zeus < Heimarmene
Demeter < Heimarmene < Zeus
The Fates = plural — are they actually vertical rather than parallel?

Demeter < Zeus < Fate[1] < Fate[2] < Fate[3] < …

“We” can mean “Demeter speaking as Zeus and the hierarchy of the Fates above him”.

The 3 divine regions above the fixed stars can be “the Fates, under JHVH”

The chain Sophia holds can be to a puppet or to a chariot-pulling animal. Man’s lower, egoic level is a center of control-power activity; he pulls strings on inferiors, such as slaves, marionettes (puppets), and work animals.

king marionette < Demeter < Zeus < Fate 1 < Fate 2 < Fate 3 < …

The figure of a jester holding a jester holding a jester…

The Mysteries of Cybernetic Control. The Cybernetic Control Mysteries: as Watts asked, queried, puzzled, or riddled: “Who controls the controller?”

The higher controller can well be considered as a hierarchy of control-centers. Was that a common idea in antiquity, in Mystery Religions? They thought about heimarmene and gods. Typically they talk either of fate being above the gods, or below them. Either way forms at least 2 hierarchical levels, unless heimarmene & gods are exchangeable.

Fate allotted (Moira) realms to Zeus, Poseidon, and Hades. The gods thus act as intermediaries between mortals/immortals & heimarmene. Heimarmene assigns control to the gods. The gods serve as a personification-interface to heimarmene. In Gnosticism, demiurge = heimarmene, God = controller over heimarmene. Gnosticism thus suggests the 3 or 4 levels:

God
demiurge
heimarmene
ego

egoic agency : heimarmene :: demiurge : God

CtrlLev[n] : CtrlLev[n+1] :: CtrlLev[n+x] : CtrlLev[n+x+1]
CtrlLev[n] : CtrlLev[n+1] :: CtrlLev[n+x] : CtrlLev[n+x+1]
CtrlLev[m] : CtrlLev[m+1] :: CtrlLev[n] : CtrlLev[n+1]

Demeter : Fates :: Fates : Zeus
Is Demeter ruled by Zeus and Fates? What’s the relation among Demeter, Zeus, and Fates, where those 3 are considered as centers of cybersteering control-power?


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Group: egodeath Message: 5585 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: Re: Rod/spear/axis/pole = demo of hi lev’s ctrl of lo lev ctrlr
Horizontal notation reveals the “spear in side, killing ego” idea:

Jesus<—-God

God—->Jesus

puppet<—-Jesus<—-God

God—->Jesus—->puppet

That’s missing the symbol of *increased perception of* control-levels dependency — eye, wings, torch/fire/sun.


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Group: egodeath Message: 5586 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: Control-levels concord pact applied to nations/war
During mycoinitiation, egoic thinking (shaped as if independent autonomous center of cybersteering control-power) initially tries to fight against the now-perceived threatening, alien, uncontrollable source of the mind’s control-thoughts. Then egoic thinking realizes that it’s always relied on that source, and been actually impotent with respect to it, without perceiving that that was the case. Then egoic thinking learns it has no alternative but to trust the source of its own thoughts, even though that source can be seen as too mysterious to trust.

Similarly, nations initially rebel against Caesar (who is a helpless puppet of Zeus), who in his wrath, overpowers them. But then like a woman who has been abducted and overpowered by her new husband, the nation learns to trust Caesar, and a peace and harmony accord is reached, and calmness and ease is restored.


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Group: egodeath Message: 5587 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: Hermaphrodite, sun&moon-headed body
The transcendent center of cybersteering control-power in one’s mind is male, sun, source of light (control-power). The controller of the source of one’s control-thoughts.

The egoic center of cybersteering control-power in one’s mind is female, moon, reflected light (control-power).

A person as a control agent is a combination of two centers of cybersteering control-power: egoic and transcendent, which work together.

The directional control-power relationship is:

Sun—->Moon

Moon<—-Sun

Sun
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Moon


Male—->Female

Female<—-Male

Male
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Transcendent—->Egoic

Egoic<—-Transcendent

Transcendent
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Egoic


That’s ‘Egoic’ in the sense of post-initiation egoic, not pre-initiation ‘Egoic’ which takes as real the impression (not yet exposed, pierced to death, tested, and disproved) that the mind has only a single independent and autonomous center of cybersteering control-power.


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Group: egodeath Message: 5588 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: The Hammer of Interpretation
Every religious, mystic, mythic, or esoteric symbol or image represents using mushrooms to perceive the two levels of control in the person: the higher level of control, which is the uncontrollable source of thoughts; and the lower level of control, which is person as a controller in the world.

Two centers of cybersteering control-power operate in the mind, together forming personal control agency moving along one’s worldline that is embedded in unchanging spacetime.


Copyright (C) 2011 Michael Hoffman. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 5589 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: Re: The Hammer of Interpretation
Every religious, mystic, mythic, or esoteric symbol or image represents using mushrooms to perceive the two levels of control in the person: the higher level of control, which is the uncontrollable source of thoughts; and the lower level of control, which is the person experienced as a control agent in the world.

Two centers of cybersteering control-power operate in the mind, together forming personal control agency. This is helpfully represented as a control-agent moving along a worldline-path that is embedded in unchanging spacetime.


Copyright (C) 2011 Michael Hoffman. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 5590 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 20/11/2011
Subject: Maximally condensed summary of Transcendent Knowledge
This is a transitional draft posting, to demonstrate my ideas being roughed out and condensed, boiled-down to the skeleton, so that the only thing left is hard-core Pearl Of Great Price. This is of interest for the Theory of Discovery/Innovation, and Philosophy of Science. This is a technique to further condense and make more punchy, cogent, the Abstract that opens my main article.

This is part of my Phase 3 work. Phase 1: Core theory. Phase 2: historical/metaphorical extension. Phase 3: propagation/delivery/communication.


I discovered that my extremely condensed Abstract of my main Theory-specification article has a fluff or non-core sentence at the start and end; the general pattern in my Abstract has been:

Introductory fluff sentence
Hard-core essence of the theory, like “The cat sat on the mat.”
Criticism fluff sentence

I am now going to tell you some information.
The cat sat on the mat.
Other expressions of the information are incorrect.

Reduces to:
The cat sat on the mat.

In the case of this theory, the hard core reduces to:

using mushrooms to loosen cognition, thus gaining the ability to perceive:
two levels of control, the lower helplessly dependently controlled by the higher which is the source of thoughts
most easily modelled as presetness of thoughts as a worldline embedded in unchanging spacetime block with time as a space-like dimension and a single, preset, pre-existing future

What to call this hard-core piece of knowledge about loosecog, cybernetics, and heimarmene, and metaphor, and the socially practically important political use and abuse of this knowledge, and, how to shove aside the wrong, confusing, historicist misinterpretation of such metaphor?

When I finished, uploaded, and announced the final draft of the main article, Sally pointed out to me that the article was weak in one important point, about the meaning of the Cross in its cultural — political — context.

The article *barely* touches on it — deeply profound, but inappropriately fleeting (each word in the condensed main article costs a million dollars; not only is the article all “beef”, as in “Where’s the beef, Wilber and Ruck?”, but the article goes beyond that to be all top-quality pieces of “beef”, with zero fat — this is a plate of beef fit for a king, only the best cuts, trimmed, expertly optimally cooked.

Watts didn’t have the ultracomplicated edifice of all knowledge in outline which Ken Wilber strives to provide as best as Wilber can though lacking enlightenment about what’s the most important revelation and realization experience in religious experiencing, and Watts didn’t recognize that all religion is mushroom-based like Ruck, and Watts doesn’t see the merit and relevance of heimarmene like authors diasporically scattered apart in 15 separate fields attend to bits of determinism.

But what Watts did so right that makes him the most important and sober, perspicacious, perceptive writer on religion, is that he *did* focus on the very most important thing to focus on: the Satori revelation is about the personal problematization of “Who controls the self-controller?” This makes Daniel Wegner important too, as self-control psychologist, though like Watts, he’s still not good enough at using language to communicate with Philosophical precision.

Watts and Wegner aren’t masters of Semantics; they end up too ambiguous to grasp and express and comprehend, as I rightly and appropriately, adequately phrase it, “the specific, explicitly defined sense in which ‘self’ as control-agent wielding self-control power is real, and in which, illusory.” If you haven’t mastered semantics well enough to write that, you cannot write clearly enough, as you could and ought to, about enlightenment, revelation, satori.


Let the word ‘political’ mean social-political, as in “everything is political”, in my future writings. That is, ‘political’ in the broad sense; political philosophy; the power-structuring and control-structuring of society.


Label each part of the max-condensed Abstract as follows:

{name/label/title of knowledge-content}
{axiom 1: cybernetics} [most important]
{axiom 2: heimarmene} [2nd most import: useful organization to support grasping #1]
{axiom 3: dissociation} [3rd most; key doorway/window, not content of revealed mystery (vs Ruck)]
{axiom 4: metaphor} [4th most; merely for vivid communication of the content
{axiom 5: ahistoricity} [mere preliminary clearing of misinterpretation]
{axiom 6: politics} [application of content to societal control-structure, pairs w/ #5]

in brief… use a notation like Ruck’s Greek Myth book to flag key themes. Numbering is too volatile and indirect. Just define and state in terms of 1-word axiom names.

{title}
{cybernetics}
{heimarmene}
{dissociation}
{metaphor}
{ahistoricity}
{politics}

The above is a perfect minimal-possible outline of the complete Theory, except that ‘title’ is an empty undefined variable name, declared but not defined; change it to “transcendent knowledge is the understanding of the following”; giving:

{transcendence=}
{cybernetics}
{heimarmene}
{dissociation}
{<–metaphor}
{-ahistoricity}
{–>politics}

<– means ‘metaphor is about the above’
– means “remove the historicity assumption, which is incorrect and prevents understanding the above
–> means “the above has been applied directly to politics in two warring ways, which is of topmost importance that we understand”

The *absolute* barest minimalist skeletal *backbone* arrangement of the phrases or components in my Theory abstract is:

transcendence=
cybernetics
heimarmene
dissociation
metaphor
ahistoricity
politics

Strip-down the Theory summary to only an introductory sheer label, followed by only the most essential key phrase of each axiom:


{name/label/title of knowledge-content}
Religious revelation and enlightenment, cybernetic ego transcendence, is the understanding that

{axiom 1: cybernetics}
personal control agency has two centers of cybersteering control-power
destabilizes self-control power
the death of the self that was conceived of as an autonomous control-agent
Self-control stability is restored
lower-level personal control agent is forced to trust the uncontrollable source of thoughts
The uncontrollable higher center of cybersteering control-power is heimarmene or a transcendent quasi-personal source of thoughts

{axiom 2: heimarmene}
worldline embedded in spacetime
experience of being controlled by frozen block-universe determinism with a single, pre-existing, ever-existing future
Experiencing this model of control and time

{axiom 3: dissociation}
using mushrooms to loosen cognitive functioning and make it perceptible
trigger the intense mystic altered state, producing loose binding of cognitive associations
loose cognitive binding
mental model is transformed to take into account the helpless dependence of personal control on the uncontrollable source of thoughts
Religious initiation is a series of mushroom induced loose-cognition sessions and instruction on the two levels of control, and how the lower-level center of control is forced to trust the uncontrollable higher-level center of control.
transformation of the mental model of personal control

{axiom 4: metaphor}
Myth describes this mystic-state experiential insight and mental model transformation
An ordinary-state based attempt to figure out religious metaphor is futile because unable to perceive the two levels of control and the uncontrollable source of thoughts. Ordinary-state perception is limited so that it’s not able to perceive the uncontrollable arising of control-thoughts. Ordinary state attempts to interpret metaphor are unfocused and invent a wide variety of interpretations without recognizing the towering vastly greater relevance of asymmetrical control-level, one-directional … diode. Shining light on the control-directionality diode.

{axiom 5: ahistoricity}
Figures in religious myth are not historical, but are personifications of the realization that there are 2 control levels in the mind. Jesus, Paul, and the Ancient Church Fathers are essentially literary inventions and allegorical representations of transcendent knowledge about perceiving and understanding the two control-levels that exist in personal control power.

{axiom 6: politics}
Perceiving and understanding the 2-level control relationship in the mind, can be used as a template for social-political structuring, as either a power hierarchy with some people standing over other people in a controller/controlled or master/slave relationship (a power hierarchy); or, an egalitarian democracy with each person positioned in parallel because each person contains the same relationship of the two control-levels.


Class assignment: The final step in composing the ultimate compact clear expression of Revelation: put the above phrases into the following structure:

Transcendent knowledge is [or, Religious knowledge is]
cybernetics
heimarmene
dissociation
metaphor
ahistoricity
politics

To highlight this structure, provide two versions of the Abstract/Summary. In one, flag the above structure elements; other, omit. An ideal definition of a system includes examples, but first, minimize the use of metaphor; can add that in later versions, after the strictly minimal definition is summarized.

_____________________

Assignment

Using the following outline sequence, provide the most condensed, simplest, clearest possible summary of the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence.

religion is
cybernetics
heimarmene
dissociation
metaphor
ahistoricity
politics

1. Provide the minimal abstract/summary following the above structure. Omit examples and metaphors. Don’t flag the sections.

2. Provide the minimal abstract/summary following the above structure. Omit examples and metaphors. Flag the sections using the above keywords.

3. Provide the minimal abstract/summary following the above structure. Include examples and metaphors. Don’t flag the sections.

4. Provide the minimal abstract/summary following the above structure. Include examples and metaphors. Flag the sections using the above keywords.


The result must be better than the following:

Every religious, mystic, mythic, or esoteric symbol or image represents using mushrooms to perceive the two levels of control in the person: the higher level of control, which is the uncontrollable source of thoughts; and the lower level of control, which is the person experienced as a control agent in the world.

Two centers of cybersteering control-power operate in the mind, together forming personal control agency. This is helpfully represented as a control-agent moving along a worldline-path that is embedded in unchanging spacetime.

_____________________


Copyright (C) 2011 Michael Hoffman. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 5591 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Re: Maximally condensed summary of Transcendent Knowledge
Testing (judgment, trial) may be a missing major component for the bare minimal outline. How do we conduct a trial to judge whether we can control our thought-source and see if our future is open vs. heimarmene-closed, in a relevant sense? It’s the old Trial and Judgment and delivering-over in chains as one who is accursed, destined for destruction.
Group: egodeath Message: 5592 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Proof by trial test demo of Noncontrol/Fatedness
In what way is the worldline/heimarmene model (the simplest possible 4D spacetime model, with time as a space-like dimension) helpful in thinking about problematized self-control (the inability to control one’s source of control-thoughts)? Why is the worldline/heimarmene model helpful? The worldline/heimarmene model is clearest, simplest, most forcible, most tangible, most concrete, most easily pictured, most easily modelled, most easily visualizable.

Is the closed-future premise what kills ego? Mostly not. It’s mostly the uncontrollability of the source of control-thoughts that fatally wounds ego.

Ego is fatally wounded, fated to die, fated to die of death by fate, fated to undergo death by heimarmene. Whether the future already always exists and is preset and single, or not, regardless of all that, ego dies because it has no practical control over the source of thoughts, particularly including control-thoughts.


This is truly work on the Core theory: exactly define the relationship between non-control of thoughts, and the idea of heimarmene. Does ego die because the mind sees that heimarmene is a fact? Does ego die because the mind sees that its personal control center is certainly not able to control the source of thoughts?

Things appear so uncertain. We need to be as keen a judge as Solomon. We need PROOF BY TEST. This need is nothing new!

Testing (judgment, trial) is a component of the Theory when stark axioms are well put forward. How are these axioms justified and co-justified? How do we conduct a trial to judge whether we can control our thought-source and see if our future is open vs. heimarmene-closed, in a relevant sense? It’s the old Trial and Judgment and delivering-over in chains as one who is accursed, destined for destruction.
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Proof and Judgment by Trial

Everyone knows for certain that we can’t know anything for certain.

Maybe the egoic local center of control *can* control the source of control-thoughts.

Maybe heimarmene is not the case: the future is open, or there are open-future manyworlds, or closed future (preexisting) manyworlds; my infinite parallel futures all exist or will exist.

Suppose Mithraism initiates are perfectly impossible to fool; they are hard-headed military S.O.B.s, same as heavy acid-enthusiast Metal musicians; they are perfectly rational and critical, the opposite of gullible (but neither are they radically skeptical to the point of absurdly). They are like engineers: focused on what works, and there’s no question about what works and what doesn’t work.

Only by proving to them with 100% certainty the facts of noncontrol and heimarmene, would any of those initiates ever have believed the hierarchical control relationships regarding the source of our control-thoughts.

Engineers, Mithraic soldiers, Zen masters, and no-nonsense intrepid Acid Metal frontiersman all readily agree: it is proven, tested, and demonstrated that you cannot control the source of your control-thoughts; your source of your control-thoughts is uncontrollable by you, where the latter ‘you’ means you in any practical sense.

Just like you can practically, generally, decide to go to sleep, you can, at most, profoundly relax your mind such that thoughts don’t arise — but you cannot dictate what those thoughts are, when they arise. Our control of our thinking is inherently roundabout and indirect and subject to the unfathomable whims of the mysterious imperceptible source of our thoughts. Thoughts arise by themselves, from beyond our practical domain of control.

We have no practical control over the source of our thoughts. That is the datum to be theoretically explained by hypothesis, modelling, and theory — and described by religious myth and esoteric symbol. A degree less, is the experience and hypothesis of heimarmene. If I have no steering-power, no steering-muscles, no steering-arms, then my future and worldline-path is, for all practical purposes, ever pre-set, closed, always pre-existing, forever pre-determined, forever predestined.

Even if we nebulously adhere to envisioning the future as “open”, still, if my arms of steering-power are illusory, then the future is practically closed, preset — so grins-in heimarmene in one equivalent form or another: the future is closed, one way or another, whichever exact way you choose to envision it.

A particular practical profound definition of ‘noncontrol’, “inability for the person to control their own source of control-thoughts” is necessarily logically systemically cross-entailed with the concomitant particular practical profound definition of ‘Heimarmene’ or ‘Fatedness’ or ‘Destiny’ or “Vertical Determinism” or Determinism. Perhaps what’s not at issue is “whether” the two axioms necessarily entail each other; perhaps the relevant approach is to say:

Banqueters in Antiquity experienced A) a particular kind of noncontrol; and B) a particular kind of presetness (unchangeability) — such that, that kind of noncontrol and that kind of presetness necessarily entail each other, or are co-entailed. Don’t question the co-entailment and worry about proving that; rather, worry about identifying the exact specific kind of so-called “noncontrol” and so-called “presetness” (so-called “heimarmene”) that are co-entailed.

Thus it might be safer to be vaguer and only speak firmly in terms of:

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Loose cognition unassailably shows and demonstrates a kind of noncontrol and fatedness that are co-entailed.

= trial, judgment, test, prove
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You can hurl all the postmodern skepticism you want at it, and cling to your claim to wield kingly power over the source of your control-thoughts… but in the pathetic end, why are you, in postmodern kingly glory, as you would have us agree, that although you are undeniably being led in chains to be nailed to the cross mockingly glorified as “the man who has power over his own thought-source”…

This analogy is not merely my clever idea I alone had, that occurred to me alone. The mocking of the soldiers, “If you are king, more powerful than Caesar, then prove it, then we will believe your claim: come down off your cross, king!”

If you believe you can control your source of control-thoughts, and if you care to know the truth about this, then you must put your claim to the test, trial by fire, to prove at least to yourself if not to anyone outside your mind, what you claim is the case. How can I prove to myself that I cannot control the source of my control-thoughts? How can I prove to myself that heimarmene rules my life?

You would have us concur, after your postmodern-skepticism lecture, that we can’t *prove*-prove that you can’t control your thoughts. However, *we have limits* to our gullible acceptance of your infinite demand for postmodern wise-guy skepticism. True, I cannot in fact *prove*-prove that I can’t control my thought-source. But: all testing of my power against that of God, who is controller of my thought-source, has always proved me the loser in the power battle.

I fought against the source of my thoughts. I ended up in panic and chaos, made to think the most terrible thoughts and I have been forced — it simply completely seems — forced to think terrible thoughts that kill my ability to control; I proved like I proved that hitting my hand with hammer hurts, I proved that I cannot control my thoughts, and in the battle-test, I tried; I fought; I tested; I lost.

My thoughts took off in terrifying direction and there was nothing I could do; I saw a vision of my inability to prevent and steer my own thoughts. It is a wonderful, glorious testing, burning away with fire my questions and my claims to power. I ended up nailed to the Cross, with mocking crown, pierced by destiny, destined to die a death by destiny. What exactly would you have me do and think, to prove, to prove-prove, my ability to control my thought-source?

How did they accomplish this persuasion in Mithraic initiation? How exactly do you *prove* to an infinite postmodern radical skeptic, that he is helplessly subject to the mysterious unfathomable uncontrollable source of his own control-thoughts?

We have a contest of who can be the most hard-headed skeptical:

o The Zen master, who doesn’t analyze and speculate, but merely observes how things are, in the mind, at the root of thoughts arising

o The venerable intrepid no-nonsense Acid Rock frontiersman who has pushed all the tests to their ultimate limits

o The definitively grounded and practical Mithraic soldiers, who have no time for nonsense and pretence, only time to worship the god of What Works, Not What Doesn’t Work

o And above all, the Engineer, whose circuit can only give the bottom-line executive, Emperor the answer, by emitting a green light or a red light.

The circuit either works to control, or doesn’t. Can you control the source of your control thoughts: yes, or no? Which is it? Don’t B.S. us, or yourself, or anyone. This is a serious matter. This is war. We live or die based on the accuracy of your position. Do we (as experienced as practical control agents in the world), control the origination of our own control-thoughts, yes or no? What is the simple, practical, bottom-line truth of this most-key matter?

All the mystics are unanimous: “We have run all the tests! We have scientifically tested this, observed, tested again, and shared our conclusions communicating among us. This is our conclusion, as surely as “hitting one’s thumb with a hammer hurts, as example of scientific testing of subjective experiencing”.

We cannot control the origination or source of our thoughts, emphatically including our control-thoughts. Do you really think that those who tested this infinitely offensive doctrine didn’t think of every way to try and struggle?

Every one who ever tried, tried their hardest, and ended up, to the extent they tried, tangled up in self-control seizure, panic, self-war, wrestling themselves to the ground, until they broke their own leg so that now they walk along their worldline path with one control-foot in the egoic control-center, and one foot forced upon their mind by the transcendent control-center.

The one-foot is the mushroom *but more than that*, the one-foot, the crippled cyberking, the hokie-pokie of king Jesus Christ, is: the old Egodeath “Hammer of Interpretation”. Recall:
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The Hammer of Interpretation

Every religious, mystic, mythic, or esoteric symbol or image represents using mushrooms to perceive the two levels of control in the person: the higher level of control, which is the uncontrollable source of thoughts; and the lower level of control, which is the person experienced as a control agent in the world.

Two centers of cybersteering control-power operate in the mind, together forming personal control agency. This is helpfully represented as a control-agent moving along a worldline-path that is embedded in unchanging spacetime.
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Therefore apply that to the question of “What does one-foot, one sandle, one leg-crippled king, limp” mean? The asymmetrical-pair master-key theme: the greater half and the lesser half. More specifically and helpfully: The dominant half and the submissive half. The control-power-originating half and the control-power-reflecting half.

All over myth appears asymmetrical pairs. “There are two things that are related and similar, yet different, and in relation.” This means: higher and lower control-centers in the mind, forming our personal control agency.

One leg this, but other leg that. The ego delusion exists before initiation, and in a lesser sense exists after initiation: ego becomes crippled, footnoted, profoundly qualified and delimited, chained, pinned, restrained, belittled, circumscribed, just as the serpent under Michael the Archangel’s spear is still alive, but is chained, restrained, pinned.

The crippled leg is you, as practical control-agent able to control things in your life; but that control-ability is actually carried by the whole, uncrippled leg, the one that is discovered and affirmed during initiation, the higher controller that gives your thoughts.

We cannot control the source of our thoughts.

We ran every possible test anyone could think of. If you rebel against the source of your thoughts, you are guaranteed –as much as science and math and engineering guarantee anything — that you will surely, inevitably, end up in self-control seizure: the Wrath of the Gods.

Every scientific test demonstrates and proves that only when you repudiate your claim to be able to control the source of your thoughts, and you instead trust, love, and rely on the uncontrollable “that which is the source of your thoughts”, does accord, peace, harmony, tranquility reappear in your cybernetic mind.

To claim you can control the source of your thoughts is certain ego death and self-control seizure — which is the wonderful rapture, the beautiful abduction, Judas, who delivers you over to the sacrifice, to sacrifice your claim to be able to control your thought-source.

Judas is the wonderful glorious divine Proving, the wrestling, the pinning and defeat of our claim, which is the method that we must use to be persuaded and convicted and convinced that — regardless of infinitely skeptical and impractical postmodernists — there is one thing we have tested, observed, and been shockingly *forced* and *overpowered* by the Power of God, there is one thing that we know for certain, in the most vivid and terrible, awesome way: we cannot control the source of our thoughts.

We are helplessly dependent on that uncontrollable originator of our own thoughts, and that originator is not “ourselves” in any practical sense.


No One at the Bridge

Crying back to consciousness
The coldness grips my skin
The sky is pitching violently
Drawn by shrieking winds

Seaspray blurs my vision
The waves roll by so fast
Save my ship of freedom
I’m lashed, helpless, to the mast

Remembering when first I held
The wheel in my own hands
I took the helm so eagerly
And sailed for distant lands

But now the sea’s too heavy
And I just don’t understand
Why must my crew desert me
When I need a guiding hand?

Call out for direction
And there’s no one there to steer
Shout out for salvation
But there’s no one there to hear

Cry out supplication
For the maelstrom is near
Scream out desperation
But no one cares to hear

— Professor Elektron


One what basis of 100% certainty and infallible proof did Mithraism initiates concur that indeed, noncontrol&heimarmene? Is unassailable proof of heimarmene unassailable proof of noncontrol? Is unassailable proof of noncontrol unassailable proof of heimarmene?

How do the Mithraism initiates Neil Peart and Bob Daisley *know* with *certainty* that heimarmene is the case?

How do the Mithraism initiates Neil Peart and Bob Daisley *know* with *certainty* that inability to control the thought-source is the case?

How do the Mithraism initiates Neil Peart and Bob Daisley *know* with *certainty* that heimarmene and inability to control the thought-source necessarily mutually entail and cross-imply each other?


In the extensively experienced and thoroughly analyzed loosecog state, are we thoroughly justified in affirming heimarmene?

In the extensively experienced and thoroughly analyzed loosecog state, are we thoroughly justified in affirming personal inability to control the thought-source?


In the extensively experienced and thoroughly analyzed loosecog state, are we thoroughly justified in concluding that personal inability to control the thought-source necessarily implies heimarmene?

In the extensively experienced and thoroughly analyzed loosecog state, are we thoroughly justified in concluding that heimarmene necessarily implies personal inability to control the thought-source?


The given data to be explained:
Ancient banqueting trippers experienced heimarmene.
Ancient banqueting trippers experienced noncontrol.
Ancient banqueting trippers experienced heimarmene together with noncontrol.

Or perhaps even more pertinently to the challenge I’m facing of connecting the two revealed axioms, the datum to be explained is:
Ancient banqueting trippers experienced heimarmene together with noncontrol.
Ancient banqueting trippers experienced heimarmene in conjunction with [conjoined with] noncontrol.
Ancient banqueting trippers experienced heimarmene conjoined with noncontrol.
Ancient banqueting trippers experienced noncontrol conjoined with heimarmene.

“together with” stays agnostic about whether the two are deeply interlinked as two sides of the same coin, mutually entailed: maybe the are, maybe they aren’t. To *some* extent, certainly, as things that are experinced, heimarmene implies noncontrol, and noncontrol implies heimarmene.

I’m using “together with” or “in conjunction with” instead of “and”. Heimarmene and noncontrol are linked, fused, not merely summed, as if you might experience one without the other.


Copyright (C) 2011 Michael Hoffman. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 5593 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Re: Proof by trial test demo of Noncontrol/Fatedness
Generally relevant, on the theme of “two legs, one weakened”; two brothers battling; wrestling with the angel of the Lord:

Genesis 32 (Amplified Bible)

7Then Jacob was greatly afraid and distressed

9Jacob said, O God of my father Abraham and God of my father Isaac, the Lord …

10I am not worthy of the least of all the mercy and loving-kindness and all the faithfulness which You have shown to Your servant, for with [only] my staff I passed over this Jordan [long ago], and now I have become two companies.

11Deliver me, I pray You, from the hand of my brother, from the hand of Esau; for I fear him, lest he come and smite [us all] …

12And You said, I will surely do you good and make your descendants as the sand of the sea, which cannot be numbered for multitude.



24And Jacob was left alone, and a Man wrestled with him until daybreak.

25And when [the [a]Man] saw that He did not prevail against [Jacob], He touched the hollow of his thigh; and Jacob’s thigh was put out of joint as he wrestled with Him.

26Then He said, Let Me go, for day is breaking. But [Jacob] said, I will not let You go unless You declare a blessing upon me.

27[The Man] asked him, What is your name? And [in shock of realization, whispering] he said, Jacob [supplanter, schemer, trickster, swindler]!

28And He said, Your name shall be called no more Jacob [supplanter], but Israel [contender with God]; for you have contended and have power with God and with men and have prevailed.

29Then Jacob asked Him, Tell me, I pray You, what [in contrast] is Your name? But He said, Why is it that you ask My name? And [b][the Angel of God declared] a blessing on [Jacob] there.

30And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel [the face of God], saying, For I have seen God face to face, and my life is spared and not snatched away.

31And as he passed Penuel [Peniel], the sun rose upon him, and he was limping because of his thigh.

32That is why to this day the Israelites do not eat the sinew of the hip which is on the hollow of the thigh, because [the Angel of the Lord] touched the hollow of Jacob’s thigh on the sinew of the hip.
Group: egodeath Message: 5594 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Re: Maximally condensed summary of Transcendent Knowledge
Proving, demonstrating, and judging by testing-trial, that we cannot control the thought-source, is not an outline component as a sibling of Cybernetics, Heimarmene, Dissociation, Metaphor, Ahistoricity, or Politics. Such testing leads to self-control seizure and is part of Cybernetics and is part of the reason why the Cybernetics component is big and most important.

Cybertesting is a child of the Cybernetics component, not another top-level component.
Group: egodeath Message: 5595 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Split ctrl-model to 2 parts, -delu., perceive/map T’t
In loosecog initiation, the autonomous single-center personal control-model splits into 2 parts, and annihilates part of the Egoic model, and adds perception and mental modelling of the Transcendent ever-present portion.


The Work of Translation and Mapping of the Theory to Myth Versions, such as the Passion Versions

I here post another draft-in-development example, as a valuable snapshot of breakthrough-in-process. And I need rest and attending to other things. This is more a matter of cashing in on recent breakthrough; I’m in the turn-the-crank phase, which however is important. Calculus in hand, I proceed to analyze everything in sight, which takes time; it’s a later phase of time-consuming labor, the playing out of the previous breakthrough.

As I perform the breakthrough translation and description of this Egyptian hieroglyph language, I exclaim in the midst of my success: These mythmakers were not unsophisticated! They knew what they were doing! They’re keeping me on my toes, as one who’s got the decryption code figured out and is laboring to apply it to work-through the translation. No wonder the Renaissance was nuts (enthusiastic) over the Egyptian hieroglyphics language. All this religious myth is a kind of high-art encryption/decryption game.

I have religious metaphor nailed, in terms of cybercontrol levels and mental model transformation (subtracting, adding, and transforming per Paul Thagard’s Conceptual Revolutions). But still, some adjustment of the core theory description is required, in conjunction with mapping selected entities of the Passion story, to be able to cleanly map the Passion metaphor-system to the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence (CTET) explanatory paradigm.

I *do* still believe that it’s fairly straightforward to map “the” Passion story (there are variants) to “the” Theory (variable in how it’s presented). Now that the Theory is in hand, that’s not a “hard problem” like figuring out how consciousness itself works. It just requires a number of pages of writing, more than 2 or 3, to list the poetic range of good mappings, then process and refine those down to a tiny compact hard-core summary.

Douglas Hofstadter can appreciate the inherent limitations and problems, choices I have to make, in translation, even if I am translating to an “Amplified Bible” format (allowing parenthetical clarifications and alternative wordings) instead of regular prose. There is a certain legitimate range of interpreting the upward bound rebel next to Jesus; of all aspects of authentic initiation experiencing, several can legitimately map to the figure of the upward bound rebel.

The initiate “goes up” in *various* senses! For example, even the humble egoic mental structure is *partly* retained in *some* form, in *some* aspects, after initiation, so is that not an “up” movement? “Down” metaphor in the Passion has challenges too: while in the tomb, Christ descends *down* to Hades/Hell/Purgatory to lift up the purified souls of the elect, the saints and prophets. So now it starts to get Gnostically elaborate like the set of all 4 Matrix movies.

Imagine a minimalist passion, with no Barabbas, no Judas, no rebels next to Jesus, no descent into Purgatory. The result — a simple Pauline version of the Passion — would be easy to map to the Theory. Jesus is crucified, then he ascends. Jesus = preinitiation personal control-model with single pseudo-autonomous, pseudo-independent center of control: pre-initiation egoic thinking (God or higher portion of your mind is working behind the scenes, unseen, unperceived).

After initiation, the purely delusion portion of your thinking remains in the tomb or underworld (that’s the false component of the Remainder). Christ = purified egoic thinking that remains; the true component of the Remainder; the true and valid lower control-center that’s been cleaned of demonic thinking. Christ also partly is the transcendent part of you, ever-working behind the scenes, now perceived; the God portion of you. Then God is sort of the same as the higher part of Christ.

So it’s slightly awkward designing a Theory and mapping it to the simple, Pauline version or equivalent of the Passion. But when Passion mystic mythmakers get all sophisticated and ambitious, incorporating Saturnalia themes, in addition to Dionysian themes, and Passover themes, and what have you… it becomes increasingly difficult and debatable what the “right” or “best” or “most elegant” or “simplest” way is to arrange the Theory, and to map the Theory to the Passion metaphor system(s).

Not to mention that we have 4 different Passion versions in the canon, and more extracanonical. So I have to specify “Here is the specific version of the Passion that I am going to demonstrate how to map to the Theory and how to arrange the Theory to enable one of the cleanest such mappings.”

The Theory is flexible in expression, and the Passion is flexible in variations, and the mappings between the two are somewhat multiple; there’s a bit of a range of possible mappings — such is the conceptual language of Myth, even when totally, ideally understood with a strong sense of the true priority-sequence (Cybernetics, Hiemarmene, Loosecog, Metaphor, Ahistoricity, Politics).

Now that I can translate the language, and I have the foreign manuscripts, I have to decide *which* of the myths to translate first, and how elaborately to translate — and “translate the Passion story of Christ” turns out to be a bit of a project when you get into it — not a struggle, not a mystery, but a labor of suitable translation-renderings and mappings. What is the best priority sequence in the queue?

This is the problem of a successful new paradigm: there’s a ton of work to do to apply and also still some work to fine-tune, fill-in, flesh out within the core theory. OK, here’s a way to describe my recent breakthroughs:

Phase 1 (1985-1988-1997): Core theory.

Phase 2: (1998-2001-2007): History/metaphor extention — applied to first, proof-of-coherence wave of metaphor examples.

Phase 3: Communication/propagation, and also, applied to second wave of metaphor examples (eg blowing wide open the Mystery Religions and important figures of Alchemy) — also tightening up some Core theory concepts and the expression of them.


Part of the ego goes up with Christ into heaven: the legit purified part of it — just not the purely-deluded, purely erroneous aspect of the egoic mental model; the latter, it’s easy to conclude, is a useful identification of what *cannot* be mapped to the upward-bound crucified rebel, so I can utilize “process of elimination” to some extent in mapping the Theory to the Passion hieroglyph-document I’m decoding.

The Theory explicitly provides the real meaning of the Passion — insofar as their is a single vastly dominant meaning. It’s like trying to map a jungle to a garden, to domesticate a wild beast, to explain rationally the mystic poetic inspirations. It works — but don’t expect the mapping and translation to be clean *by all measures*, just as the Greek word Heimarmene is not a perfect synonym for the Latin word Fatum, and both are a rather poor match with the English word Determinism.

Now I know the pain of translators! And the Poetic Science of translation. I am emphatically not saying metaphor is ineffable or untranslatable to scientific explicit Theory — but that translation is typically a matter of tradeoffs. There’s an expression in programming languages like “idiom friction”, metaphor system mismatch, dissonance, mal-fit, a limited degree (not radical or total) of incommensurability between competing paradigms.

Just like a conductor “interprets” a written score to form a particular “performance”, just like “the myth of Dionysus” is a flexible framework so you ask “Map the myth of Dionysus to the CTET — but according to which ancient writer, and which modern translator of that Greek to English?”

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The below is *less* meta-theory, more straight work of translation/mapping.


The ego is only partly illusory. After initiation, part of your self-model is cast off as dross, perishable, transient illusion. You are left with authentic lower self, and now-revealed higher self. In your mental model, you “subtract” — identify, characterize, study, model/map out, and repudiate — the supposed existence of the illusory part of the lower self. You add mental modelling of the uncontrollable transpersonal higher center of control that is part of you.

The mental model so profoundly changes, you are reborn, redefined, a spiritual death and rebirth of the person. It’s easy to define the model model before, and the mental model after; it’s hard to map the before and after structures. Before, one set of structures; after, a different set of structures, with some reuse of some structures.

This is why the metaphor story logic is hard to follow in the trial of 1) Judas-delivered 2) Jesus, letting 3) a prisoner escape, 4) one rebel descends and 5) one rebel ascends, Jesus descends into Hades then ascends, and there is then 6) Christ, and Jesus dies and also is resurrected.

There are many Passion entitities to map to Egodeath theory, and to construct Egodeath theory in reference to:
Mary, Joseph
Judas
Pilate
Jesus
Barabbas
Descending rebel
Ascending rebel
Christ
God
Mary, Joseph


Going into the Passion sequence/initiation:
Jesus, = your personal control-model before loosecog initiation

Coming out of the Passion sequence/initiation:
Christ & God, = your personal control-model after loosecog initiation. Christ = lower ctrl-ctr, God = higher ctrl-ctr.
Barabbas, = your ability to escape a disastrous fate when proving your inability to control your thought-source.
transcendent rebel/thief, = your higher ctrl-ctr after initiation.
egoic rebel/thief, = your lower ctrl-ctr after initn. & your cast-off dross self, Remainder, false claim.


Christ = God = transcendent rebel (count them as 1 control-entity/center modality/type).

Given that all players are aspects of each of us, it’s as if we throw Jesus against a wall and he breaks into ten entities/aspects of personhood-aspects.

The 1 splits into 2… but the dross is cast off, as rejected abandoned ghost, *not* part of revised ego. Is the higher, divine portion “added to the mind” during initiation? As ever, in one sense yes in one sense no. The higher control center was always secretly in place doing its work like a faithful donkey carrying you along your worldline-path through spacetime.

But the fact and situation, that God was steering your thoughts, wasn’t represented in the mental model (which is distinct from “what occurs in the mind, where ‘the mind’ includes portions beyond the current scope of perception”). Shoving aside Freud and Jung, stealing their terms for better use:

Before initiation, God is active in your mind, steering your thoughts, the secret pilot of your soul, but in a non-conscious way; that is, in a way that your mind is not aware of, in a way that isn’t incorporated into your mental model yet. The mind is not perceiving God’s control of your mind, and, distinct from that, your mind has not yet incorporated God’s control of your mind into the mental model held by your mind.


Who doesn’t come out from the Crucifixion or Passion? You *could* say: Jesus and the egoic rebel don’t come out. But Jesus has fecundity; sacrificing him, vitality and realness both are used moving forward, whereas the purely illusory and purely *deluded* aspect of the mental model of personal control is wholly burned.

o The egoic mental structure that went along with delusion is cleansed, washed clean, purified, made acceptable to God (transcendent thinking), retained and integrated per Ken Wilber.
o The purely wrong, purely deluded part is cast off forever (Ken Wilber in Atman project might say “The self no longer identifies with that old self-structure.”)

After enlightenment, the egoic self-concept remains, in a specific sense that can be specified with some precision and detail; and is done away with, in a different sense. The egoic portion of thinking remains and yet is changed. See Paul Thagard on how to model and conceptualize the process or procedures of theory-transformation.

It’s likely that the Jesus figure and story took in so many ideas and previous stories, that there are partially overlapped, multiple meaning-systems; overloaded. A simplistic model says “we have a higher and lower part”. A sophisticated, ambitious model can use ten entities in place of those two.

Mapping:

egoic control concept before initiation

After initiation:

no ego — that dross gets sent to Hades

Genuine lower self — Christ. This is, the practical self, moving through the world, as purified, de-deluded person, employing lower, local, egoic control-thinking (the true Remainder), now re-understood to not include the false part (the false Remainder).


Before initiation:
A (delusion, and real lower self, and veiled higher self)

After initiation:
B (pure delusion — perm. cast off during initiation, dross, no longer of any use)
C (real, still-useful lower self)
D (now-perceived higher self)


When the single control-center of the pre-initiation mind is split into lower subservient driven self and higher dominant driver self, when that transformation and splitting happens, there’s a third factor: the delusion portion of the pre-initiation self-concept (a portion of the control-center ideas) is cast off as dross: it is burned away in the purifying fire, leaving the real skeleton, the real portion.

It is nullified, sent to Hades’, … a complex number consists of a real portion and an imaginary portion (a multiple of the square root of -1). During initiation, the imaginary portion … these ideas are subtle and we have to decide whether we are trying to be complete and accurate, or, whether to be clear and elegant and comprehensibly simple.

During loosecog initiation, the truly deluded aspect, grossly imaginary portion of the mental self-concept is repudiated as unreal; as undesirable, desirable to be cast off and got rid of, destroyed. But the desirable, still-useful aspects of the previously constructed egoic mental model are retained, having been purified and washed clean, and are put to good use. See Wilber’s book Atman Project for some useful language about mental structures being largely retained, but “disidentified” and transcended, and transformed. Also see the book On the Existence of Fictional Objects.


Copyright (C) 2011 Michael Hoffman. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 5596 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Re: Maximally condensed summary of Transcendent Knowledge
Here’s as far as I got in this great assignment exercise so far. This is top-priority and I’m looking forward to it — I must not get distracted and go deep now into any one of these ideas. This condensing-procedure will produce an awesome, tiny, powerful summary of the Theory, a diamond, an improvement on the Abstract in my main article (theory-specification).

Optimize for maximum stark simplicity. Avoiding 2nd order approximation/modelling, precision. Formulate the simplest possible, 1st-order approximation of the Theory, simplified to the extreme. But not a 1-sentence summary, which would be too ambiguous and general to constitute “revealing the mysteries”.

Assignment note: target 350 words ( = how many minutes, read slowly?)


Put best points first in each group, then delete bottom items in each group.

[religion is]
Religious knowledge is the transformative understanding and testing of personal noncontrol of thoughts in changeless spacetime, perceived by loosening mental functioning through mushrooms, how these insights are metaphorically described, recognizing such description as not literal historical reportage, and how these ideas are used to support hierarchical or egalitarian society.

[cybernetics]
Before initiation, personal control is mentally modelled as a single autonomous, independent center of control (the initial ego). After initiation, personal control is mentally modelled as consisting of two distinct centers of steering agency or control-power.
The revised ego is the lower level of and lower center of steering and control-power; this is the person experienced as a control agent in the world. The lower control-level is dependent on and helplessly subject to the higher level. The higher, dominant level of and center of steering and control-power is the uncontrollable source of thoughts:
heimarmene or a transcendent quasi-personal hidden agency as the source of thoughts. The higher control-center creates the personal thoughts inside a person’s mind, and is outside the realm of personhood; it is transpersonal.
destabilizes self-control power
the death of the self that was conceived of as an autonomous control-agent
Self-control stability is restored
lower-level personal control agent is forced to trust the uncontrollable source of thoughts
upon seeing helpless dependence of personal control on the uncontrollable source of thoughts, take a defensive stance against it, try resisting it, but forced to learn to trust it; establishing an asymmetrical trusting control-power relationship between personal control and the uncontrollable source of thoughts.

[heimarmene]
worldline embedded in spacetime
experience of being controlled by frozen block-universe determinism with a single, pre-existing, ever-existing future
Experiencing this model of control and time
helpfully represented as a control-agent moving along a worldline-path that is embedded in unchanging spacetime.
The worldline/heimarmene model is clearest, simplest, most forcible, most tangible, most concrete, most easily pictured, most easily modelled, most easily visualizable.

[dissociation]
using mushrooms to loosen cognitive functioning and make it perceptible
during which the mental model of personal control is transformed
the mental model of personal control is negated, expanded, and transformed. Illusory control agency is identified and subtracted from, added to, and transformed transformed and partly repudiated as illusory, and is expanded upward;
trigger the intense mystic altered state, producing loose binding of cognitive associations
loose cognitive binding
mental model is transformed to take into account the helpless dependence of personal control on the uncontrollable source of thoughts
Religious initiation is a series of mushroom induced loose-cognition sessions and instruction on the two levels of control, and how the lower-level center of control is forced to trust the uncontrollable higher-level center of control.
transformation of the mental model of personal control
using mushrooms to enable perceiving

[metaphor]
Myth describes this mystic-state experiential insight and mental model transformation
An ordinary-state based attempt to figure out religious metaphor is futile because unable to perceive the two levels of control and the uncontrollable source of thoughts. Ordinary-state perception is limited so that it’s not able to perceive the uncontrollable arising of control-thoughts. Ordinary state attempts to interpret metaphor are unfocused and invent a wide variety of interpretations without recognizing the towering vastly greater relevance of asymmetrical control-level, one-directional … diode. Shining light on the control-directionality diode.

[ahistoricity]
Figures in religious myth are not historical, but are personifications of perceiving that there are 2 control levels in the mind.
of transcendent knowledge about perceiving and understanding the two control-levels that exist in personal control power.

[politics]
Perceiving and understanding the 2-level control relationship in the mind, can be used as a template for social-political structuring, as either a power hierarchy with some people standing over other people in a controller/controlled or master/slave relationship (a power hierarchy); or, an egalitarian democracy with each person positioned in parallel because each person contains the same relationship of the two control-levels.


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Group: egodeath Message: 5597 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Wheat vs. Chaff: m-model of thot-src vs junk part of ego
Yet another new idea/mapping just now, regarding non-personified theme, of “the wheat sprouted vs. the chaff discarded”:


In loosecog initiation, the transcendent uncontrollable thought-source is made perceptible, and is mentally modelled for the first time, adding a new upper area of your mental model of personal control agency; “wheat sprouting”. The wheat grain was always there, but was veiled, hidden, not manifest consciously in perception.

In loosecog initiation, the useless junk dross portion of the egoic mental model is forever discarded as sheer delusion, “chaff”. Other aspects are retained.


Demeter = wheat
Sheer delusion aspect of Persephone = chaff

Sacrificed or pinned bull = wheat thereby produced (produces new, divinized, consciousness (mental model extension) of what you are)
Sheer delusion aspect of bull = chaff


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Group: egodeath Message: 5598 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Two accompanying up/down torchbearers, thieves, etc
Downward & upward torchbearer/”thief”:

Downward: Part of your pre-initiation mental model is discarded as useless dross.

Upward: Your mental model is expanded upward to map, now that you are made to perceive it, the higher-level control center that was secretly steering and giving you your thoughts.


Thus we have two positive figures and two negative: a pair for what you are, a pair for your *mental model of* what you are, re: personal control agency:


High/low aspects of what you always are:

God/Sol — higher control-center portion of you

Jesus/Christ/Mithras — lower control-center portion of you


Added/subtracted aspects of your *mental model of* what you are:

Up thief/torchbearer — mental model expanded upward to map higher (formerly veiled) control-center, the uncontrollable source of your thoughts. Wheat.

Down thief/torchbearer — mental model portion that’s utterly discarded and not used at all, the useless part of the egoic control-agency delusion. Chaff. Dross.


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Group: egodeath Message: 5599 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Re: Two accompanying up/down torchbearers, thieves, etc
The torchbearers and thieves “off to the side” mean your *understanding* (mental model) of what you are.

The more central figures mean what you are:
God/Sol
Christ/Mithras
Jesus/Bull


A thing is central. A mental model of the thing is off to the side. In loosecog initiation, part of your mental model goes down, is discarded. Part of your mental model goes up, is added. Like a new building goes up, or wheat sprouts up.

“I must decrease so that the other may increase.” Understanding increases, though that’s off to the side of the main thing, which is what you are — and were but didn’t know, perceive, or understand it.


Torches = added perception.

You can *perceive* on mushrooms that the dross portion of ego is dross, chaff. And after perceiving, you can understand; revise your mental model.

The down torchbearer means the perception and then understanding (mental modelling) of the dross portion of ego as such, that that corrupt part of mental functioning is chaff, destined for destruction and sacrifice.


You can *perceive* on mushrooms that the there’s a transcendent thought-source that’s been giving you your thoughts. It springs into view like wheat sprouting. And after perceiving, you can understand; revise your mental model.

The up torchbearer means the perception and then understanding (mental modelling) of the transcendent thought-source that’s been giving you your thoughts.


The common soldiers of the Roman Empire understood all this. In olden days, every Western culture except mushroom-illiterate, OSC-only late-Modern era people understood all this.

AXIOM: The true meaning of religion, myth, and mystery religion initiation in Antiquity, through the early Modern era, is *not unduly complex* — nor is it stupidly superficial like “it all means the sun” or “here’s our explanation of how nature works” per clueless Evolutionary Psychology 1800s throwback theories.

The decoding of the hieroglyph has to be basically simple and not unduly complex — *everyone comprehended the hidden meaning*.


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Group: egodeath Message: 5600 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Re: Two accompanying up/down torchbearers, thieves, etc
Per Edwin Johnson — and perhaps Brown — I think “renaissance” is misleading. The knowledge people had in antiquity didn’t die, so 1525 didn’t have to re-figure it out. People in 1525 understood the meaning of the Mysteries, myth, and religion in Antiquity; that knowledge and comprehension was kept fully alive during the Middle Ages. And I like the hypothesis that there were only 350 years instead of 1050 between 476 and “1525” which is therefore aka 825.

The culture of “1525” looks to me like it sat in the year 825, just a little bit after Antiquity. Does it look like the comprehension of the Mysteries died out in 476, was lost until 1525, and then the people in 1525 figured out the meaning of it? Evidently the people of 1525 were smart on this subject, and filled with understanding of the Mysteries and religious myth.

I cannot believe that understanding of the Mysteries and the esoteric initiation meaning of Christianity was lost from 476-1525 and then was figured out in full, again. Evidently comprehension of Mysteries and religious, mushroom-based myth was retained without a dip from Antiquity well into the early modern era, especially where there was hierarchical society and mushrooms and religion: those are the natural habitat of comprehension of the Mysteries, Esotericism, and religious myth.

As a “typical” member of late-Modern culture, it was a long haul for me to reach this state of fully blowing open the Mysteries and the Christian version of them. But it was so hard for me, for us, for me as a capable, well-equipped representative of my culture, to successfully decrypt Esotericism and the Mysteries and mystic religious mythic metaphor, because today’s OSC-based, egalitarian culture stands on opposite premises from that which begat and sustained such encrypted, ASC-based knowledge.


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Group: egodeath Message: 5601 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Achilles’ Heel = unctrlble source of ctrl-thoughts/ctrl-power
When you take a defensive, untrusting, stance of enmity against the threatening source of your thoughts, you are bound to lose that contest, because of your Achilles’ Heel: the very source of your ability to take a stance against your source of thoughts, is a product of your source of thoughts, as if you are trying to shoot an enemy when the enemy has fully control over your weapons and can turn them against you.

The feared, unknown agent that you test, challenge, or distrust as threatening you is the uncontrollable source of your own control-thoughts and thus is in control of your control-power that you presume to wield against that unknown mysterious agent.

Achilles is dipped in non-mortality except for the heel he was suspended by: the source, the wellspring, of his thoughts, including his control-thoughts. Your mortal self is destined for overthrow because it is falsely premised on having control of its source of control-thoughts.


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Group: egodeath Message: 5602 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Re: Maximally condensed summary of Transcendent Knowledge
Religious knowledge is the perceiving of the uncontrollable source of one’s thoughts, testing this dependency, and transforming one’s understanding of personal control.

Personal control is initially imagined as a single, independent center of control. During initiation, personal control is perceived as dependent on an uncontrollable, hidden source of thoughts, experienced as the unchangeable universe or an unknown agency. Personal control tries to control and defend against the revealed source of thoughts, demonstrating that personal control power is dependent on and vulnerable to the source of thoughts.

Personal control learns to trust the source of its thoughts. The mind discards its assumption that personal control controls the source of thoughts. Personal control becomes mentally integrated with the source of thoughts, and control stability is established, in a newly explicit, 2-centered configuration of control-power.

The easiest model of spacetime to organize thinking about personal control-power is that the person’s experiencing, including control-thoughts as a steering agent, is laid out as a worldline-path embedded in a changeless space-time block universe with time as a space-like dimension.

Religious initiation is the use of mushrooms to loosen cognitive functioning and make perceptible the dynamics of personal control cognition. This perception and loose cognition disengages the previous mental model and helps construct a revised mental model by subtracting, adding, and transforming ideas about control.

Myth, including Mystery Religions, is metaphorical description of the above. Figures in religious myth are not historical, but are personifications of the above.

Perceiving and understanding the 2-centered control-power relationship that propels the mind has been used as a political template for structuring society, to purportedly follow the divinely revealed pattern:
o A power hierarchy with some people standing over other people in a controller/controlled relationship, because each person contains a control hierarchy.
o An egalitarian democracy with each person on the same level, because each person contains the same relationship of the two aspects of control: personal control thinking and the source of thoughts.


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Group: egodeath Message: 5603 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Re: Maximally condensed summary of Transcendent Knowledge
Innovations in this Condensed Summary of Transcendent Knowledge, or Abstract of the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence

Less reliance on metaphor. More direct and neutral.

I removed ‘levels’ and became more explicit, more direct: personal control, and the source of thoughts. ‘Levels’ is a metaphor and thus is indirect. ‘Centers’ of control is more neutral, closer to systems theory. Anyway instead of ‘levels’ or ‘centers’

‘Egoic’ and ‘transcendent’ are problematic. Before initiation, there is a certain version of egoic cognition and unperceived transcendent cognitive activity. During initiation, the transcendent source of thoughts is perceived, grappled with, and mentally modelled, along with cancelling some previous mental modelling of personal control power. After initiation, the … [aw, damn that Neil Peart, the Theorist trails 36 years behind the Poet — I just recognized the uncontrollable source of thoughts in “The Fountain”] , and after, different egoic cognition, and newly per…


“The key, the end, the answer, stripped of their disguise. I’ve reached a signpost. Now at last I fall before the Fountain of Lamneth. Many journeys end here, but the secret’s told the same.”


The Fountain

Look the mist is rising,
and the sun is peeking through
See the steps grow lighter
As I reach their final few

Hear the dancing waters
I must be drawing near.
Feel, my heart is pounding
with embattled hope and fear.

The key, the end, the answer
Stripped of their disguise
Still it’s all confusion
And tears spring to my eyes

Though I’ve reached a signpost
it’s really not the end
Like old Sol behind the mountain
I’ll be coming up again

Now at last I fall before
The Fountain of Lamneth
I thought I would be singing
But I’m tired, out of breath

Many journeys end here
But the secret’s told the same
Life is just the candle
And a dream must give it flame


The terms ‘egoic’ and ‘transcendent’ are problematic, ambiguous labels, given the following dynamics.

Before initiation:
Egoic model: independent autonomous self-control power
Transcendent model: no mental model. Unperceived transcendent cognitive activity.

During initiation:
Egoic model: modified. cancelling some aspects of the previous, egoic mental model of personal control power.
Transcendent model: uncontrollable source of thoughts indirectly but distinctly perceived and tested. Add mental model of it.

After initiation:
Egoic model: Delusion habit returns but loosely held, utilized as tool.
Transcendent model: uncontrollability of the source of thoughts is again not perceived. Retain and organize mental model of transcendent.


In loosecog, do you perceive the uncontrollable thought source? In a sense yes; no. You perceive the arising of thoughts without personal control power over that arising; you perceive the uncontrollability. The source itself is The Unknown God, the mysterious stranger.


Grappling with the Unknown God

KJV Genesis 32:

And Jacob was *left alone*; and there *wrestled* *a man* with him *until the breaking of the day*.
And when *he saw that he prevailed not* against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh;
and the hollow of Jacob’s *thigh was out of joint*, as he wrestled with him.
And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou *bless me*.

And he said unto him, What is thy name?
And he said, Jacob, *the supplanter*.
And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel, *contender with God*:
for as a prince *hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed*.

And Jacob asked him, and said, *Tell me, I pray thee, thy name*.
And he said, *Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name?*
And *he blessed him* there.
And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel:
for *I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved*.
And as *he passed over* Penuel *the sun rose upon him*, and *he halted upon his thigh*.


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Group: egodeath Message: 5604 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Re: Maximally condensed summary of Transcendent Knowledge
Innovations, changes vs previous summaries:

o Used direct characterizations “personal control” and “the source of thoughts”, rather than indirect labels eg ‘egoic’, ‘transcendent’, or metaphorical terms ‘higher’, ‘lower’.

o Highlighted politics, and cogently

o Connected with Mithraism: torch up (add mental model) down (accordingly subtract mental model)

There’s too much innovation compared to the Abstract of my main article. I need to post a full-text commentary.

Weird, I wouldn’t say the core theory has changed since 1988 or 1997, but now much more mature, developed, broad, many points to choose from, many figures, many connections to evoke w/ various mythemes. Wasted few words on Metaphor and Ahistoricity; all the more radical for how little I say: it’s all figurative description for the above bombshell ideas, period.

I didn’t belabor heimarmene, but gave it its due nonetheless. I used the topic to keep the emphasis on the main point: control-power experiencing. I didn’t point out worldline = snake-shaped: the assignment statement dictates “no metaphor”.

Great allusion to sacred marriage, trust-relationship.

Surprised – I deleted “self-control seizure, panic”, even ‘instability’! ‘defend’, ‘vulnerable’, ‘stability’ are enough.

Impact strategy: be low-key and awesomely profound but provide just enough indication of the shock wave alarm, almost understated. Don’t sell it; let it sell itself.


Kicked b*tt on the heimarmene-dislike problem by leveraging unobjectionable gentle handling. Maybe I just need to deemph it by bracketing it as “auxiliary”. You got to have Cybernetics, Loosecog, Metaphor… but Heimarmene is really powerful, but on par with cyber revelation? I here framed Heimarmene in the main scenes of the film, but never the central ultimate focus, which is Cybernetics. Here, this summary fine-tunes the relationship between the 4 pillars and amount of attention.

Each — per my 1987 Domain Dynamics model — each main area of the Theory serves a unique kind of function. Cybernetics and Heimarmene are related, co-entailed perhaps, but not parallel, not “equal”.

I only claimed you might “experience … unchangeable universe” and “The easiest model of spacetime to organize thinking about personal control-power is … worldline-path embedded in a changeless space-time block universe” — light-touch involvement of the heavyweight topic of determinism. The issue, the transformation of personal control agency, isn’t determinism: it’s cybernetics.


Well-leveraged my call for focusing on visionary plants as making perceptible, specifically,

And I waved-off the entire nervous distraction of “we don’t know for sure the mixed wine” by just saying look, you guys can’t think straight because you’re worrying about details and blind to the forest. For Christ’s sake, just axiomatically declare “mushrooms”, and be done with it so we can think clearly! It’s what they should’ve been using, what I would use in their case, and the evidence supports it; we have no reason for this enfeebling hesitation. We’ve got way better things to worry about!

In 2112, we suggest the electric invention from 1943, and the priests retort “Yes we know, it’s nothing new, mushrooms — er guitar — is just a waste of time. We have no need for ancient ways, our world is doing fine. Just think about the average, what use have they for you? Forget about your silly whim — it doesn’t fit the plan.”


Focused more focus on contending against or testing the source of thoughts: the seeing, testing, sacrificing, marrying/pact sequence.


Nice length, long enough to have total scope and less ambiguity, long enough to fully violate strictures against revealing the mysteries.

Against Ruck and the Moderate Entheogenists, I barely focus on the plants themselves — it’s almost incidental; loosecog’s the thing but not even that; the thing is, what loosecog *shows* you – hint: it’s not plants, except the snaking vine of Dionysus, seeing which turns the king to stone.


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Group: egodeath Message: 5605 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Re: Maximally condensed summary of Transcendent Knowledge
The Professor knew religion long ago young.

1960, 1973: Robert Graves writes 83 pages on mushrooms as the key to Greek myth and religious myth.

1975: Neil Peart writes Caress of Steel and 2112: “We have no need for ancient ways, it doesn’t fit the plan”
Group: egodeath Message: 5606 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Snake/krater/panther under bull/chariot,
A snake shape is underneath your personal control thinking. Heimarmene brings your worldline to the krater, which makes you perceive heimarmene

Krater = mushroom
Snake = your unchangeable preset worldline out of your control that secretly steers you along your path through life through changeless spacetime. Is there change with respect to time, in a sense, yes; no: does a vein in a block of marble change? Does the curve of a function graph (eg sine) change? In a sense, yes; no.

Panther drinks krater under Triumph chariot of steersman Dionysus carrying passive Ariadne
Snake drinks krater under bull in tauroctony
Snake under chariot in other mythart

If snake under = worldline, so panther.
Group: egodeath Message: 5607 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Re: Snake/krater/panther under bull/chariot,
Panther = pet cat = chase/hunt/kill = Actaeon as hunter myth = worldline path = sacrificial labyrinth = (ego)death by Fatedness

Antiquity liked the = sign

The 1993 cat of Dionysus that yawned between my profound mental relaxation and the divine realization of my vulnerability to my uncontrollable source of thoughts was again with me– in another of its lives — last night or this morning when I posted my nonmetaphorical 300-word rebalanced and expanded-scope summary of the CTET.


Theory Architecture including shell interface. Idea of ‘core’ (nonmetaph sys theory vs ‘application’ (history/metaphor) needs refinement: the deep core doesnt chg since Jan 11 88 but I admit that more connections or indexings are added. Does my Core theory chg from 1988 1993 1997 2001 2007 2011?(see Dates thread & 93= vulnerability&trust–>my ascension day). In a sense, yes; no.

Dont underest metaph; mapping Core to it feels like dev’ing the Core not merely the interface layer out to the jungle of overgrown brands of mythic-relying myth-dressed religion– This is why u get ‘perfected’ in one Mysteries brand then go thru another & another. It was satisfying to deepen the grasp.

All Mysteries brands show exact same Core, *the* Wisdom, Transcendent Knowledge, but they provide such a diff iface, like diff Rock festivals. Even do initns w 1 hierophant of Mithm, then start again w a diff hieroph of Mithm in diff Mithraeum, produces diff experience despite all relig brands of Eso’m, 10 diff brands of housechurch protoXy, brands of Jewish initns, Secret Societies, etc


Play-hunt w cat: its path looks like heimarmene-shaped inevitable zigzag closing in on the prey is you. Panther = powerful scaledup cat, same shape of its hunting-path, = labyrinth to Minotaur.

DUNAMIS = POWER = KUBERNETES = TAUROS = DRAKO =
HEIMARMENE APOCALYPSE = LABYRINTHOS = FATUM = MUKES = EGO’

Minotaur = Mithraic bull = shoulder muscle = Bull = power domesticated under ctrl. = our ability to control power, = steer power = wield cybernetic power = steering-power.

Who Steers The Steersman??

Who steers the bull of personal control-steering power?
Mithras perceives that you are SOL-
steered and that underneath you is the snake-shaped worldline-path rails which you are secretly — LIKE A SNAKE HIDDEN IN A COVERED BASKET lid apocalyptically blown up via my college electric – forced to steer along, to forced willingness to ingesting the MUKES KRATER OF DESTINY: I AM SOL the invincible and my bull is going off the rails on a crazy train tracks inevitably destined for trainwreck shipwreck the serpent-swallowed Jonah warns but unless you turn repent sacrifice your claim to power of laying the tracks yourself


Minotaur = overpowered ctrl-power in our mind, perceived by the Nectar Ambrosia of us non-mortals that has the ingredients list:
M., U., K., E., S.

Graves’ wine-holes today though are thought of as feeding the immortals buried there with the brand new traditional recipe of 1956, to mix modern Ambrosia from the secret ingredients
M., Y., C., O.


Having been programmed by Professor Daedalus, I reveal I was always determined to engineer the magic
DIAMOND HAMMER OF INTERPRETATION
by reconfiguring this morning’s Max-Condensed Theory Spec as the infinitely dense hard core
Hammer of the Athanatos:

MYTHOS = KUBERNETES DUNAMIS KAI HEIMARMENE KAI MUKES


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Group: egodeath Message: 5608 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 21/11/2011
Subject: Re: Snake/krater/panther under bull/chariot,
Snake under Michael: God has cybersteering control-power even over Heimarmene itself; our God is more powerful even than the Fates of the Demiurgic powers of this passing era

— MtA
Group: egodeath Message: 5609 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 22/11/2011
Subject: Pagan relig died bc Fate was rejected
Downfall of Pagan religion was its affirmation of heimarmene, this rescues my hated advocacy of heimarmene as heart of transcendent truth and revelation and the key to Antique religion. Xy (which is to say, Gnostic ultratranscendence) killed them by climbing over the head of the god of Fatedness. Luther Martin: Heimarmene was the Hellenistic religion and was used to excuse (Marcus Borg:) domination-hierarchy. Xy was all about superceding “Judaism” as proxy for Heimarmene-culture, w housechurch gospel of egalitarian interp of mycology and, transcending Heimarmene: task to construct Ptolemaic astral ascent mystic cosmgy by adding layers above serpent-wrapped fixed stars.

THE BIG ISSUES:
Heimarmene sucks power from demos to Caesar’s domination hierarchy. F heimarmene and F domination hierarchy and all pagan religion is ruined shot through with these: rid us of such “religio” of evil: we reject it and affirm the unknown God above demiurgic heimarmene and reject domination hierarchy for egalitarian democracy. HEIMARMENE IS POLITICAL


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Group: egodeath Message: 5610 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 22/11/2011
Subject: One-foot limping king lost sandal
One-foot limping king lost sandal
Person walks along fated hiemarmene-path by combined power of personal control power (impot/illus) and the veiled uncontrollable Source Of Control-Steering Thought. The worldline snake hidden in the basket is the god that secretly controls and steers and gives you your cybernetic steersman-agency power

My power to walk with my legs along my Fate-governed worldline is an asymmetical system of 2 components, 1 w pwr over the other.

Hokie pokie of John Rush’s Christ icons explained:

One foot that propels me along my worldline = personal ctrl pwr
One foot is the unctrlble Source of my Thots particly ctrl-thots


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Group: egodeath Message: 5611 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 22/11/2011
Subject: Re: One-foot limping king lost sandal
WTF?! OMG what a POS video game, I can’t believe it– IT’S ON RAILS! I’m driving along on my ride, next to the vine yard, and then figured out that I was unable to turn either to the left or to the right. All the moves I make are given to me beyond my control, under the covers! What a disappointment: I assumed that this game would give me the freedom to move around freely through this virtual world. I want a better engineered game.
Group: egodeath Message: 5612 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 22/11/2011
Subject: Psyche = penetrated receptacle female thought-receiver
Contents:
Why the psyche is Female, receptacle, concave, womb.
Hellenism worshipped domination-power.
Why women created Christian Mystery Religion.
Why it was more popular than Pagan Religion.
Are Moderns the only ones who didn’t (until now) understand this “language”?

___________________________________

Why the psyche is Female, receptacle, concave, womb

Serpent = spear into body = heimarmene = uncontrollable source of your thoughts = phallus of God = inserter of thoughts = male = that which overpowers you.

Personal control agency = passive = concave = cave = hole in side = receptacle = cup = womb = krater = that which thoughts are inserted into = female = the you that is overpowered = wound in Mithras’ bull = bull bowl-oriented crescent moon = bowl-shaped horns.


All glory goes to Controller X, the unknowable, unseen, uncontrollable fountainhead of our thoughts, including our control-thoughts! The universal god worshipped is the phallic Fountain of Cybernetics which, when made perceptible by loose cognition, makes us pregnant with Transcendent Knowledge. A transcendent part of what I am is Controller X; I am Controller X.


The wound willingly permitted in Jesus’ side, made by Jupiter/Eagle/Caesar, is like our mind’s passive receiver of control-thoughts that are injected by God, and the seeing of that, particularly the mushroom-enabled perceiving of thoughts that are specifically about the source and foundation of self-control power, and personal control’s inability to control such thoughts, and how trying to test, judge, and resist thoughts, steer away from such thoughts, leads inevitably to self-control seizure, panic, loss of control, doom, disaster, defeat.

So this wounding, this testing, this perceived and understood penetration of God into our mental thought-source, results in the discarding of old ideas about personal control agency, and gaining new areas of thought about identity, agency, and control – as well as preservation and transformation of some aspects of control-thinking.

The mental model of control agency involves a subtract, add, and transform, in a Conceptual Revolution. The ego-killing wounding and invasive forced penetration also gives rise to new life, cleansing, regeneration, purification: Alchemy.


Mary, mother of Jesus, is you, rap’d in your mind’s cup, perceiving that you are receiving your control-thoughts from the finger of God, the Dove that’s a member of God’s body, that does the two-part impregnation of the divine new self-concept and transcendent-self awareness in your mind: the Dove is new perception ability in conjunction with the ever-ongoing insertion of thoughts into your mind upstream from your will; creating your will, injecting himself into your thought-receptacle whether you are willing or not, against your will, overpowering your will, as the very source of your will (given that your movements of will are themselves thoughts, or mental constructs, forced upon you, regardless of whether you are willing or unwilling).

The Dove as the moment of fertilizing climax, refers to not the always-the-case injecting of thoughts into you, but rather, the specific receiving of thoughts (understanding, idea, mental construct) specifically about the uncontrollable source of your control-power. The Dove is the ability to watch and perceive thoughts at their source in your mind, in conjunction with receiving the specific thoughts that demonstrate your helpless vulnerability and overpoweredness.

Jupiter sends down his Eagle to assault and rapeture you and kill you and humiliate you like a mere woman or slave, to mock and jeer your pathetic state, putting you in your place. It’s enough to give a woman pause: are we to respond to this by worship and praise? When the thereby-justified domination-hierarchy makes life hell for 90% of the population? What bizarre upside-down values are these?

If *this* is what “glorious” ‘religio’ and entheogenic banqueting must be taken to be about — as they asked again in 1630 — perhaps we’d have a very good chance of being better off without it. But we can give it one chance: it’s do or die for Hellenistic religion at this point: either you adapt to the demands and needs of the 90% on the bottom of the pyramid, or else, you die: we refuse to propagate the meme of “worship that which abuses you”.

The Last Chance for Hellenistic religion to redeem itself is to find a positive, healthy expression of altered-state revelation of noncontrol and heimarmene, and a vision of something better, higher than heimarmene, and use such a variant strain of Mystery Religion initiation and Banqueting to construct a just, humane, egalitarian arrangement of society.

Since Jews aren’t a domination hierarchy, and since they rebelled successfully for a moment against Roman Empire and since they refused to assimilate, we can commandeer and repurpose their resources for a Jewish-themed version of the Hellenistic uber-religion of Heimarmene-and-cyberpower worship, but with several mutations to render the religio meme acceptable:
o A loving god (JHVH, not Jupiter)
o A peaceful bird (Dove, not Eagle)
o A *suffering* god-given ruler (Jesus, not Caesar)
o A more positive coitus/coupling theme (love, not violent assault).


Socrates corrupting the youth: he taught them that the mind has a female cup that receives thoughts from the uncontrollable source of thoughts. That personal responsibility is illusory in a profound sense. That transcendent Heimarmene has absolute power over us. That sheer power, not moral agency, is real (in a profound sense). Did he also teach them that Heimarmene (-interpretation) is Political (which is the seed idea of Christianity)?


I don’t mean to overly equate our noncontrol with heimarmene, but never did two distinct ideas fit together so well, as to form the religion of the overpowering of personal control power by the uncontrollable source of thoughts, hand-in-hand with Heimarmene.

When I determined to crack the code of Mithraism, I didn’t expect to find a shocking worship of the idea of overpowering, a religious glorification of the sheer forceful aspect of cybernetic control power. “You dominate and overpower me, therefore of course my natural response, as anyone’s would be, is to worship you.” The idea goes perfectly against the direction of late-Modern era thinking, where domination and oppression and power are demonized.


My head officially exploded today, and I got it on tape, which I would like to transcribe and post, and upload as audio. My cup overfloweth: I am having too many good ideas too fast to post, so they are piling up on my voice recorder and text files. I have written valuable drafts I might overlook and not post. I’m the dumb jackpot winner watching the coins pile out in an endless torrent.


It is so obvious, these aspects of mystic mythic metaphor encoding, I am embarrassed that all those professors out there who figured this out but are afraid like Robert Graves and self-censor like he wrote that he did, to protect his sales.

Loudmouth ignoramuses who haven’t done their homework are loved by publishers and given every opportunity and encouragement to publish: Andy Letcher, I wave my finger at you, shameful failure of independent, sound thinking. But I also see why your shameful, harmful pseudo-scholarship was thereby rushed eagerly into print by the Prohibition-complicit publishing industry, and was able to deliver a few bits of helpful information to the world, lurking in your pile of superficial non-research.

Anyone who figures out truth is censored — coerced to censor themselves, and censored by the publishing industry. The truth is only permitted to slip through in metaphor encoding in Acid Rock lyrics. “Yes we know, it’s nothing new, it’s just a waste of time. It doesn’t fit the plan.” I am anything but the first person to figure out this metaphor.

Those of you ahead of me like Neil Peart in many ways, are not so much waiting in anticipation for me to inform them of this meaning I’m about to write — they already figured out the meaning (one may speculate and imagine). They are actually waiting for me to figure out the “kind of obvious and simple” truth which they already figured out, which every two-bit Esotericist and mystic understood until perhaps 1700.

It’s easier to state the brief period and fraction of culture where this was *not* common knowledge in Western history. In my paranoia, I fear I am the last one in history who hadn’t yet figured it out. I feel more like a dunce than a genius: I am the sharpest knife in a drawer of completely dull knives. This revelation I’ll tell you is only news to us, a few people in the late-Modern era. We are mystic-metaphorical dunces.

I was so smart, I figured out afresh, anew, from zero, with no help from the dunces around me, the decoding, which all other groups (I paranoiacally fear) quite evidently had an easy, full comprehension of. In this subject, we Moderns are complete imbeciles and fools, and the early Moderns are geniuses compared to us: even their pitchfork-armed farmers understood this. It was obvious to them. It was passed on to them.

I am the smartest person in the late-Modern era but I am embarrassed on all our behalf… and there might be many others who figured out this obvious metaphor-decoding in the past 100 years (the max-dark era regarding this subject). My achievement is towering yet embarrassingly modest compared to our previous culture, who routinely understood this. I have, however, explicitly expressed this knowledge.

It’s a great achievement, mitigated by our being tardy in cracking the code *and* writing about it publically rather than self-censoring.

Those who (perhaps) already figured this out are cheering not my *discovery* of the ideas, which they privately held already (one may wonder and suppose), but rather, my apt *expression* of the ideas — mapping non-metaphorical, precisely defined explanatory Theory components to metaphors, which are inherently an imperfect match; a metaphor says “A is partly isomorphic with B.”


Soldiers’ Mithraism was worship of overpowering. They made a religion of worshipping overpowering. The uncontrollable source of thoughts is revealed to have been injecting its payload into you your whole life, whether you are unaware of willing or unwilling. Before initiation, you couldn’t perceive that the phallus of God was being inserted into your cup in your mind, where God’s fountain comes into your mind. During initiation, you gained perception that the divine was inserting his finger into your cup.

Doubting Thomas wouldn’t Believe until he put his finger in the hole in the side. AT LAST!!! I HAVE FIGURED OUT THE SPEAR IN THE SIDE. Finally; Jesus! Duh! Countless jeer and laugh at me for being so tardy in figuring out what was obvious common knowledge. (Carl Ruck et al say it’s the center of the underside of an Amanita cap, as the target meaning — go laugh and jeer at their cluelessness, not mine!)

Rod = staff = thyrsus = phallus = Fate’s or God’s uncontrollable thought-injector imposed into the heart of our mind.

We are accustomed to thinking about ‘awareness’ in the mind, but we are less accustomed to thinking about the ‘source of thoughts’. Yet these two are complementary modules in the most elementary diagram of the mind and self-control. That’s one profitable mapping of the up/down torchbearers: the Up torch makes ‘awareness’ visible, and the Down torch makes the ‘source of thoughts’ visible (on the receiving, incoming side; not the ever-dark, ever-unperceivable side — the arm of JHVH is seen, but nothing else).

The cup, the receptacle, the hole, the cave, the female opening: is the veiled place in our personal control thinking, where thoughts originate; where the Trojan horse is delivered to, where the spear of heimarmene penetrates into us, where the uncontrollable source of thoughts is, inserting our control-thoughts into us.

The idea of heimarmene is supremely revered and useful and powerful because it emphasizes our cybernetic powerlessness, which is the goal of religion. Determinism is extremely popular, commonly found in some 15 fields (such as Philosophy, Theology, Cognitive Psychology, Cognitive Science, and Analytical Philosophy). Yet determinism is despised.

Why is Determinism a controversial doctrine? Determinism is a huge affront to our claim to egoic power — and that’s what religion is all about: taking that claim down. We recoil and bristle against the doctrine of Determinism, like the n*ked guy apprehending the Red Star of overpowering Fatedness on the 2112 album.

God as uncontrollable thought source injecting himself into you, and heimarmene portraying you as a helpless puppet farcically pretending to move itself freely along its fixed track through spacetime, like a vein in a block of marble claiming that since it “changes” from one part of the block to another, it is now going to leap out of the marble and dance around and crown itself king.

The propositions of Heimarmene and noncontrol couldn’t possibly be any more offensive to the egoic claim to wield a certain profound conception of autonomous power.

Now my theory will tell all about heimarmene: why it was worshipped, why it is a powerful, overpowering idea, why it is despised, why Gnostics demonized it, why people engineered a way for religion to transcend heimarmene, why the religion that made that move, Gnosticism and Christianity, was popular and caused the unpopularity and collapse of the single religion of Hellenistic world, which was, the worship of heimarmene.

The Hellenistic uber-religion of Heimarmene-worship was disliked in Antiquity because it harshly mocked egoic power — it was Triumphalist over personal control power — and because it was abused to excuse domination-hierarchy as the social-political arrangement “given by the gods and revealed in the Mysteries”. As if what’s revealed in the mystic state is the gods-given, Fated-mandated domination hierarchy arrangement of society, per Roman Imperial Theology propaganda.

Jesus Mysteries asked “Were ancients happy with Mystery Religions?” That is a malformed question. The correct question is: “Which ancients were happy with Mystery Religions?” Answer: Top 10% of the domination hierarchy pyramid, not the bottom 90%.


It’s funny that as much as soldiers worshipped overpowering, they put on wedding dresses and considered themselves (or their normally perceptible mental self as control executor) to be female, in the religious department; the mind has a cup where its thoughts are inserted by the finger of Sol. The soldier’s higher, dominant — but not normally perceptible — self-identity was male, Sol, Mithras.


I continue to suspect that despite Modern scholar’s literalism, the Maenads are men and women, focusing on the mind as a passive receptacle of thoughts injected by the penetrative member of Dionysus, the uncontrollable, normally hidden, source of our thoughts, secret pilot and steersman of our souls, governor of the steering wheel which is us.

We thought we were driving the car, but it’s revealed to us now that ours is merely a toy steering wheel, as Dionysus proves to us by steering the car straight at a tree, the Angel of Death, despite our efforts to steer aside from the threat that inseminates Belief into us while we test the fact of the matter: as personal control agents, do we or do we not have practical useful control over the source of our thoughts? If not, can we trust Agent X, or JHVH, which is the unknown source of our thoughts? Do we have a choice? No.

Are we justified in trusting something we don’t know anything about except that it is the source of our thoughts we depend on? Yes; it got us here; it is the foundation of our own personal thinking, crazy but true; truth is stranger than fiction; it takes some ambitiously strange fiction to match the strangeness of the relationship of local egoic personal control agency and the Mystery of the uncontrollable and imperceptible source of our thoughts.

Is Heimarmene or the Fates trustworthy? Venerable? Worthy of worship? Worthy of marrying, of love, of affection? Ask Job.


Perhaps we should take a stance of distrust and take up arms in paranoia against the source of our own thoughts — good idea? Mind the self-control seizure.

And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand.


— Controller X, via the Communicator


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Group: egodeath Message: 5613 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: Amanita = King of Enth metaph; psil = superior fx
In the otherworld realm of mythic metaphor, Amanita is the undisputed King of the Fungi, even King of the Entheogens, but psil mshr are more effective, ergonomic, popular in mixed wine practical use. Metaphor is often visual, and Amanita is much more visual than psil. Recycling might apply to either. I consider Amanita to be mainly a representative of the actual use of psil. To show Aman in myth is to indicate the use of psil.


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Group: egodeath Message: 5614 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: ‘entheogens’ = noncontrol-revealers, anti-cyberdelics
Entheogens are more precisely, relevantly, termed as Noncontrol-Revealers. The latter phrase speaks from POV of local personal control agency, which is to say, POV of the central processing executor, Sol’s consort Luna, the egoic mind (which is, during initiation, subtly and profoundly reformed/transformed/exorcised/purified).


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Group: egodeath Message: 5615 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: thoughtsource/thotreceiver before/during/after initiation
I can further clarify the non-metaphorical Core theory to usefully define the mental model of thoughtsource/thotreceiver before/during after initiation. See summary in very recent post.

You are the creator. And you are a creature. As the creator, you control your mind’s source of thoughts. As a creature, you don’t control your mind’s source of thoughts. But better terms are needed for your transpersonal identity (it forces thoughts into the mind; it is “the phallus of God”), and your personal identity (it helplessly passively receives thoughts from God and executes them obediently, mechanically, automatically; it is “the consort of God”).


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Group: egodeath Message: 5616 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: Refactoring the Core theory per mythic metaphors
My Core theory needs fixed terminology that cleanly maps to these central primary myth-expressed referents/components, without “analogy leakage” as I’ve suffered today since the Great Collapse of the Incomprehension, the Great Falling of the Remaining Scales from my Eyes. My sight has been cleared fully, and I see that my core theory terminology and modularity, object design, design patterns, is not quite rising up to serving the purpose of mapping myth, now that the latter language is fully understood and decrypted, the code cracked. A bit of design refactoring is needed:

Break out clearly, discussion of mental models of personal control 1) before, during, and after initiation, specifically 2) in terms of “male” source of thoughts, and “female” receiving and executing thoughts using the reformed egoic sense of being a control-agent moving itself through spacetime under its own power. The concepts ‘egoic’ and ‘transcendent’ require too much (ie an unnecessary amount of) freeform verbiage to express these potentially cleanly cogently expressible ideas; in some sense, myth is more cogent than my 1997-era structuring of the Core theory.

This morning, I posted a summary of this “before/during/after” and “thoughtsource/thotreceiver” sequence. In short, the “refactoring” needed, is to fold these ideas back into the various main few topics of my Theory, enabling a more condensed, clear, powerful expression of my theory, similar to my “maxly condensed summary of the theory” I posted this morning, which I’m pleased with, and does have these new handles, this new object-design refactoring into before/during/after,

Now that I have a crystal clear grasp of the helpful useful tangible vivid metaphors, I’m seeing some weakness, some terminology holes, some needed concept-handles/names, that are better… that are non-metaphorical, that are unambiguous, and …

Now I myself need a glossary for myself, and diagrams, to finalize better terminology, that makes the core theory clearer and more systematically expressed/mapped/described in a way that enables terser, less ambig, more precise, *routine* terminology/communication — to ensure we are all on the same page, to disambiguate, and, to make it easier to map to the wise metphor mythemes we inherited, for greater and more efficient, compact, unambiguous explanatory power: Paul Thagard’s Pri3 criter for good theory: it must map to previous theories.

Pri1: conceptual coherence: the Core was finished, *in a sense*, the mmoment I created it 1/11/88. But, generally along the lines of Thagard, the Core still needed deepening and what I’m fiding undeniably is… until now, I used to think that I developed the Core, locked it down upon uploading to PrinCyb ~1/1/97, and then I added sep. extension covering the mapping to history&metaphor.

In mapping myth to the Core theory, I discovered that the *expression* of the core, the *format* of it, has room for improvement — *not* that I’m revising the actual axioms or content that define the core; but, that I’m changing, improving substantially, the *expression* or “embodiment” of the core — the word “packaging”, I long used, gives too superficial an impression. Myths are quite good at talking about the most interesting ideas, though not explicitly; in some cases, the referents of mythemes are more relevant than the nearest-equivalent concepts in my 1997 Core theory or 2005 theory-specification of the Core + metaphor-extension.

“Packaging” the core can deeply affect the wording I use to express the axioms, the terminology usage, the phrases, and eg I had as fundamental terms, or concept-bag handles, “egoic” and “transcendent”, but I ended up overloading those to the point where I myself hardly know what those terms are supposed to mean anymore. They are ancient going back to year 1, 1986, if not Year 0, 1985.

‘egoic’ used to mean “deluded about control; having self-frustrating, ineffective self-control”
‘transcendent’ used to mean “enlightened about control; having non-self-frustrating control”

That’s a problematic and simplistic target scheme. ‘egoic’ and ‘transcendent’ meant alot before the Core discovery of 1/88. And I got much mileage out of them through the end of the Core work in 1997, and through the end of the History/Metaphor extension in 2007.

But with my latest, total breakthrough of metaphor that was enabled by the Nuke of radical maximal extremist fundamentalist purist hard-core dogmatic commitment to the Diamond Hammer of Interpretation (myth describes heimarmene, cybernetics-power, and mshr; mythos = heimarmene, kubernetes dunamis, kai mukes), by becoming infinitely narrow-minded, I fully deciphered and learned the native language of myth, and tranalated and read it at lenght.

I found that my language terminology was inadequate, ie wasn’t tuned and divided well enough, fittingly enough, to smash and reduce all myth cleanly into my own conceptual framework’s conceptual slots.

Translating myth to non-metaphor scientific systems theory, domain-specific style of explanatory conceptual framework, taught me how to be a better myth-free, non-metaphorical theorist, as if defining a better universal virtual-machine language to which all programming languages can be translated. Every breakthrough in mapping myth reflects back causing some improvement refactoring of the Core theory to provide a superior direct way of expressing what the myths are very relevantly describing. The Poet has some advantages over the Theorist, tho v.v.

Just as it doesn’t occur to other writers to even *consider* heimarmene and cybernetics as the ultimate master referent of myth, and many would never even *think* of mshr as a key role for myth, either; similarly, a modern determinist or systems theorist, it might not even occur to them to arrange their model in a way that well matches the male and female conjoinment and distinction, though in practice, during initiation, such a modelling-choice, a design-choice of expression of dynamics of thinking and control in the mind, turns out to be a more powerful design than the modern non-metaphorical theorist would think of – tho note the common use of ‘male’ and ‘female’ in plugs and sockets for vine-shaped wires carrying information, thoughts.

Playing my occult album DoaM, I put the needle in the groove, and heard metaphors unfold profundity, freedom problematized, control lost, becoming no one. It behooves the metaphor-free theorist to follow the lead of metaphors, and design his non-metaphor model and terminology such that they map well to metaphor, because that metaphor was freely chosen in the jungle of overgrowth, to convey the most pregnant, suggestive, *relevant* experiences. Thus I gain the best of both worlds: the best referent ideas and best implicit models from mythic metaphor, and, the most optimally designed non-metaphor explicit model.

By adjusting, reconfiguring, the non-metaphor-origated, engineering-originated model, for ease of mapping ot metaphor, the nonmetaphor model gains the best fruit, the best underlying referent ideas, from the Great Wise myth-spinners. Do not underestimate the power of metaphor, even as the ultimate non-metaphor, explicit Theory surpasses them.


I never thought that the core theory’s “inner packaging” would need to benefit by being taught by the analogy-leakage jungle of mythic metaphor, but some of the target components that are meant by mythemes are not wrapped suitably, not encapsulated… I find that the analogy-leakage jungle of mythic metaphor is requiring me to improve the, refactor my code, refactor my core theory! Not changing my axioms; that is, not correcting errors, but improving the arrangement, just like Newton and Liebniz both invented “the calculus” but Newton’s expression of it — the “inner packaging” (you can’t call it the mere “surface”, the mere API…)

You can have a code base that works, that’s not broken, and yet that needs improvement for increased practical power. I always thought that “packaging” the Theory was “mere surface styling”, but that idea of a separate core and surface expression seems misleading: what’s needed is more like a deeper refactoring. My Theory is a tremendous success… but there’s room for improvement in the structuring within it. There Comes A Time when a code base calls out for refactoring.

I’m in the position as if Liebniz created his calculus, then improved the arrangement of it, the internal expression of it, to produce Newton’s superior configuration of the same technology — the two presentations, arrangements, are mathetically equivalent, yet Newton’s is more useful and thus *practically* has greater power, in a sense. Newton’s is not truer than Liebniz, and in a sense they have the same explanatory power, but in a practical, applied sense, and in terms of visualization and comprehensibility, Newton’s arrangement of the calculus is more powerful, and elegant, than Liebniz’s.


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Group: egodeath Message: 5617 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: Prometheus stole firre, chained, eagle eats liver forever
Prometheus is a Titan — an experienced, very knowledgabel initiate on brink of enl.

He stole fire (Ambrosia recipe M., U., K., E., S.) from the gods [mshr]

The ambrosia made him immortal [no further ego-death after series of initiations completed]

As punishment, he was chained, bound to the rock [embedded in the frozen spacetime block] forever [sense of timelessness].

Purpose: to bring Ambrosia and its resulting athantos (non-dying) to mankind.

The eagle of Zeus ate his liver every day. Beak into wound = God’s phall inserted into mind’s receptacle to insert our thoughts, as the usually non-perceivable (veiled, lid-covered) source of our thoughts, particularly our control-thoughts, inserted into our personal control functioning (local, personal, executor functioning; central processing unit, control unit).

Heracles/Hercules kills the eagle and frees Prometheus.

Liver is the organ of heimarmene, prediction, will; the ancient equivalent of modern “in my heart & soul”.

Prometheus challenged Zeus’ omnipotence

During a sacrificial meal [mshr, egodeath] marking the “settling of accounts” between mortals [not ego-died via mukes yet] and immortals [those who underst TK/metaph/egodeath], Prometheus played a trick against Zeus, making it only *look* like the best part of the sacrificed animal is given to the gods [sacrif = egodeath, discarding seizure-inducing false claim by personal executor functioning, a claim to power over our source of thoughts], but the worthless portion was given to the gods instead [the useless, confused portion of deluded egoic freewill thinking].

That angered Zeus, which is the whole reason why fire [mukes, Ambrosia of egodeath/rebirth] was hidden from man in the first place (cmp JHVH kicking Adam/Eve out of paradise, requiring mycojesus to give mycoblood of non-dying back to us).


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Group: egodeath Message: 5618 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: Myth as a riddling Sphinx
If you answer wrong you die? If you answer successfully you die, egodeath.

Figuratively, the Q is “What walks 4, 2, 3 legs: baby adult elder”

But a truer metaphor q is: “What walks on 4, 2, then 1 1/2 legs?” A: The initiate, who walks themselves propelling themselves along their worldvine-path by using the transcendent control-power forced upon them (the male component of the psyche: source/giver of thoughts into mind; wand; phall; lingham), and their ego-dead executor functioning (the female component of the psyche: receiver/receptacle and processor of thoughts; cup; yoni).


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Group: egodeath Message: 5619 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: Re: Graves-Wasson enth theory 1960, Hall 1925, S. 1845
If you drink the blended mixture in this recipe, it will make you immortal:

Mercury, Umbrella, Schlitz, Heineken, Rust, Ontology, Oboe, Manikin
Group: egodeath Message: 5620 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: The Son of Man, given/destined for sacrifice so eter life/forgv sins
Our youthful self = our child = our son, is our initial self-concept as pseudo-autonomous, pseudo-independent control-agency, able to steer the future and our thoughts one way or the other.
During initiation, that self-concept is repudiated and judged by testing and trial to be false.

We cast out and repudiate that self-concept in order to take into account our executive agency’s inability to control the source of its thoughts, particularly including control-thoughts.

The symbol of Jesus represents each person’s (each man’s) youthful self-concept, or son who is destined and identified for sacrifice. The pre-initiation youth-self of any man, the ‘son’ of each person.


eternal life = imperishable, a-thanatos, non-mortal, not subject to ego-death.

forgiveness/cancellations of sins: Heimarmene cancels moral culpability. (heim = double-predestination, fatedness, determinism, preexisting or preset block universe).

You die the egodeath, and thereby become non-dying, immortal. Gain non-dying life by dying. Every noninitite is accursed, destined to be punished by death, for their moral sin, their moral sin, of thinking of themselves as an autonomous moral agent. You are guilty of having the audacity to think of yourself as a morally culpable and therefore power-wielding freewill agent; you are punished for your guiltiness by being bound to spacetime and killed by ego-death; doing so purifies you of your error and pollution and guilt, and you gain non-dying, everlasting life, imperishability.


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Group: egodeath Message: 5621 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: fountain in a cave
Describe the exact seizure thoughts coming from the lit-up fountain. block univ diagr showing worldline thread, provide sep zoom diagrams of before, during, after initn-seq.

convention: discuss “initiation” as if a single 6-hour session is sufficient, rather than seq for deepening.

torch = light-up, lit-up

The temple of Mithras is a cave, containing a fountain. Sol is the creator of the world. Mithras is associated with the sign of Aries and the planet Mars (male; unseen uncontrollable-by-executor thoughts-source). The bull is associated with Venus (female; thoughts-receptacle; command-instructions receptacle).


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Group: egodeath Message: 5622 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: Mythic metaphor code fully cracked
At the end of time (which is today, November 22, 2011), all mysteries are unveiled, all wisdom is revealed.


The entire language of myth has fully opened, more than in 2001-2007 — continuing same vein as 2007, but I only had a view through the crack then, now it’s blown all the way open — the turning point was when I got radicalized in reaction to Rinella’s taking the moderate enthoegen theory too far to conversative, and he raised question of the political downsides of mshr mysteries, that harmed the demos.

Actually, the contention in Athens was about the political downside & abuse of the revealed secret of non-kubernetes, and Heimarmene-dunamis, actually, more specifically than Rinella’s too-vague “mshr use”.

I told-off the entheogenist for being weak-minded and complicit in Prohibition, in the bunk story the Establishment is coercing their weak, compromised minds into caving into. We must think as an independent press! Quit giving an *inch* to the Establishment! Do the radical opposite of the view they advocate. Purely and totally ignore them. Refuse to be the slightest bit influence by the Establishment view, that creeps and infests the minds of the purportedly leading-edge scholars. Weed out that confused, inquisitional thinking from your mind.

Be a pure, unchained, radical, independent thinker: follow venerable manly Edwin Johnson: per Robert Price: How tragic; we can no longer take the received views for granted; we have to actually think, now.

Set up an echo chamber — that’s how I achieved my great breakthrough Sep-Nov 2011: by making my thinking as simple and purely extreme as possible, hammering repeatedly in my echo chamber, screaming louder to drown out the voices of the Establishment contaminating my thinking, covertly inserted into my brain by remote control — and, chillingly, taking over Ruck’s brain, too, making him part of the Establishment Borg, so that we get the most sinister: revolutionary rebellion co-opted by the Establishment, complicit, coerced.

The Establishment has infiltrated the minds of Rinella and Ruck, to corrupt their would-be “alternative” views. Mother Jones has been bought out by Mega News Corp. Books by Andy Letcher rushed out by big-name Establishment presses, making loud-sounding arguments about nothing in particular, a shell game, in which we nod our heads in dizzied consent that this constitutes an argument:

“The mshr on the ch door is evidence that there’s no hidden mshr in Christian art. Therefore I have shown there’s no evid for mshr in relig, such use is late 20th C only.”

Yes Letcher your logic is dizzying, I give in! You are right (in your theory and position, whatever it is, that shifts on every other page, as needed, to give the right surface impression of something having been proved). Any other views, all of them are wrong, whatever they are. His book has all the logical structure of a pile of oatmeal.

I haven’t seen argumentation with that level of soundness since I tore Wasson to shreds leaving nothing standing, regarding Plaincourault and related proxy issue of the supposed nonuse of mshr throughout Xn history, in Our religion. When Hoffman was done with the temple of Wasson, not one stone was left standing on the other. Not to mention contributions from Irvin and Letcher toward same. Wasson is forced to start from scratch with a *genuine* investigation of these Christian history questions this time.

Ruck does well so far as he goes, in sticking to his guns even more, when the Establishment-hypnotized know-nothings say “Ruck can’t be right, because he sees mushrooms all throughout myth.” That’s the same argument as I totally demolished from Wasson/Panofsky: “Plaincourault fresco cannot be mshr, b/c there are hundreds of what the art historians call ‘mshr trees’ known in art.”

That’s a kind of begging the question; of assuming that which is to be proved, with the superficial air, tone, and style of writing that tries to covertly mask-over that bunk move (Wasson/Panofsky *assumes* as an uncrit presupp that m-trees can’t repr msh, and then uses that assumpt *as if a concl of considered thinking*, to argue that this Plainc instance must “therefore” not repr mshr. Just slather-on proving-sounding, argumentation-sounding, logic-sounding words, on top of a total non-argument.

To boot, in addn, Wasson puts forth a crass brazen Argument From Authority: “The art authorities are familiar with these m-trees and they know that these m-trees don’t repr msh.” That statement *is* the argument; there is no reasoned argument behind, under, prior to, supporting that statement; we are supposed to gullibly *imagine* such. How weak are our minds?!

Such was my hue & cry leading to my great complete breakthrough: the collapse and fall of the Myth Empire by the Diamond Hammer of Interpretation (“myth means cyb, heim, & mshr”). I suppose I got good at myth interp as cyb/heim/mshr by 2007 (proved by posts & main artic) — but this lang interp skill is a matter of degree of fluency, and I got way more fluent, literate, skilled, clear on the grammar of myth, along w/ tightening my theory-interp/technique a la defining tinier, denser, simpler, more rigid and hard-*ssed, toughened, more firmly *committed*, zealous, …

I am known on the Web as “the Enth Fundamenist”, take that to heart, own that, yes, we need to rise up to be that! We must quit failing to be fundamentalists, radicals, purists, extremists — then we can as I have now fully proved break through into coherence and truth and remove the worm of Establishment programming, virus contaminating our thoughts, programmed by the Demiurge and his rulers of this passing age. Diamond Hammer of Interp: mythos = kubernetes’, heimarmene dunamis, kai mukes. Including narrowing vague “enth’s/psyched’s” to “mshr, which make the mind perceive the unctrlbl [by executor mind] src of thots”.

The God part of the brain, the unknown Controller X, *can* control my thoughts (directly or as creator/programmer of my frozen worldine instruction-thread), but me/mind as local executor, control unit, cannot, can only *receive* and mechanically *read and process* the command-instructions that Controller X, via his Heimarmene-vine instruction-thread, forcibly injects and transmits into my mind, thus remotely controlling my thoughts, making me will to do things, by “his” command.

I am Controller X, and so I control and program everything that happens in the world; Controller X is me; I am transpersonal (you are deluded and crazy). I thus insert my own commands into my mind, forcing myself to will things, indepdendently of my will. I am the executor, the helpless reactive mechanical vessel who God forces command-thoughts into. I am Sol, the totally overpowering Programmer, the source of all of everyone’s thoughts.

I am Luna, the Executor, in whom Sol inserts thoughts. I am Mithras, who is forced to perceive the fountain gushing fecund thoughts into the loosened mind. I am the bull, discarded, dualistic, egoic thinking, and I control the power of freewill. I am the serpent of hiemarmene, inevitably led to drink the mshr blood from the receptive vessel forcefully filled with transcendent thoughts, that is neither bone, nor metal, nor wood. I am a program er. Metaprogramming is forced upon the steersman, who is made, his will is coerced and turned against itself, by entities he is forced to believe in.


I am Controller X: I force my control-thoughts into my mind against its will, coercing the will, injecting my payload of control-overriding software into the helpless obedient vessel executor control unit, weak, obedient, female telepresence hardware dancing at my remote command.


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Group: egodeath Message: 5623 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: thread of computer instructions/commands
Map Core theory to Sol/Luna, male/female, and to cog sci and comp sci. Does Core theory per 97 explicitly or equivalently have concept of mind’s v; cup; place in diagram where cmd-thoughts are recvd? What’s the closest to that conceptual arrangement/internal packaging, within the Core theory?

mshr loosen cognitive functioning and makes the mind perceive thoughts arising independently from personal control power that the personal mind wields. This is like a fountain in a cave, where a person lives, as a control agent, but a control agent that has no freedom, is sheerly a reactive mechanism, and receives commands, like a program receives machine-language instructions from the call stack or stored program and deterministically, as a network of latching switches (relays), is made to execute the instructions.

The instructions that are imposed into the mind (into the executive subsystem) are laid out along the worldline-path suspended and embedded in changeless spacetime.


The really existing higher you. The commander — or, the sequence of instructions/commands, laid out along the worldline path by a mysterious programmer/creator.
The really existing lower, executive, local, personal control agency cognition, subjectively vividly always experienced as “myself, the controller-agent”.

strong = thotsource thotsrc
weak = executor, local persctrl executor, slave of the commands, just as a computer or robot is a slave controlled by its programming, or a
better:
a remote-controlled robot, telepresence?

worldline = source of thoughts, in that they… like a program is the source of thoughts, but a programmer wrote the program. Who wrote the program? Is the stored program … there is a stored program laid along your worldvine-path. Where did it come from? Who or what wrote it? the demiurge programmed your , or set in place, your instructions on your *thread*.


Acronym Glossary:
transcendent knowledge (TK)
cybernetic theory of ego transcendence (CTET)
egoic (e’c)
transcendent (t’t )


cybernetic TK concept computer architecture/robotics term
————————— ——————————————–
personal control = processing unit; control unit, Luna = control unit = hardware
heimarmene = thread; stored program instructions controlling hw/registers
unctrlbl src of thots = call stack; stored program instructions
Controller X = programmer

“analogy leakage”: A is in some ways like B, in some not (<– analogy leak)

A given idiom in Objective C programming lang is in some ways like C#, in some not.

Luna = control unit = hardware
Sol = program, by programmer (demiurge, in strictly heim system) = software

Ironic — we’d think hardware = male, software = female. But the software controls what the hardware is made (forced) to do.

include terms from Body Electric and last trk of Mvg Pics. Moving Pictures is popular but the orig moving picture is tree/river/rocks on back of CoS.

worldline = cassette tape
block univ = record
minotaur = repeating loop at center of “Bike” and Sgt Pep side b.

Metaphor from my 1987 & Rucker’s 4D — integrate into various topics: film strip. imagine an instructions/cmd seq along the filmstrip. frames. frame[t] of worldline contains instruction[t] or (schiz) command[t]. The command at [t]; the thot (particularly the control-thought) that arises in one’s mind, at time t.

heim snake under bull in Tauroctony, or under a chariot, = command thread worldline in spacetime block. worldline of the command thread. vine = sequence of command-thoughts in spacetime.


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Group: egodeath Message: 5624 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: misc.
mytheme “The Trial” (cmp Saturnalia, ancient novellas)
judging whether we have the ability to ctrl thots
judging the truth of heim

worldthread path

thread/line/snake/path/course/river/vein/wire/cable/[Greek square meander] winding snaking meander

bull’s tail ends in wheat [explain per Hammer. cmp snake (or heim-panther) leading to krater], tail is heimarmene-shaped. “the worldline, not you, is what brought you to the mshr / to the new birth per transformed self-concept”

heimarmene path (worldvine in the marble-block universe) worldvein worldline vein/path/vine/snake/meander/course/river/sinew


my chg of project 1/88 (was “get ctrl”, then was “writeup the revelation of new conception of ego t’c cmp to eg JTP Journal Trasnper Psy’s conception of e t’c”: going into laby, one goal (get ctrl); coming out, enl re nonctrl. That brkthru-that-spun-my-goal-itself-around — that deflection-vector, is classic, characteristic.

Project of hunting for ctrl, see the gdss, hunt conception/goal/objective gets wholly reconfigured.

2nd-order (indirect) metaphor: wine = thoughts. ie wine in concave krater bowl is shaped like the payload of thoughts that come into the mind like sparks thrown off by a sparkler.
Does a goddess couple w/ a mortal to produce a hybrid child in her womb? Isn’t it always the male gods pene a mortal woman, so that a divine child is conceived in her womb?

bladder = womb re: recy aman (Diony’s 2nd birth after titans tore him to pieces and consumed him [check myth, Graves])

Diony’s mortal mother Semele died upon “embrace” (intcs) w/ Zeus
Group: egodeath Message: 5625 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: Re: Egodeath indep revel’n of Modern era, Engineering
late modern era definition: Starting in 1983, universities no longer taught Grk, Latin, classics, Greek and Roman culture, Roman Empire. In 1987, it was harder than ever before in history, to figure out TK/CTET; there was 0 passing-on of the key to interpreting mythic-metaphor. But I did have 100% of the resources native to 1987, every possible support, tool, supportiveness, opportunity, of modern content, not classics (that wasn’t encouraged at all).

Had non-metaphorical self-help & transpers psy & zen & hum pot mvmt. Thus truly my CTET = truly new, fresh, original, independent dispensation of TK given to man, *native to* late-Modern era, pure, the “racial purity” of derivation of 1987 CTET (breakthrough & inspiration on 1/11/88 but heavy liting in 1987 esp my fresh stylistic MCP-based restart in 4/87 thus approx 4/15/87-1/11/88 was the heart of the period in which my Theory, the CTET, was created; the core style of CTET, if any, is purely natively based in leadingedge style of 1987.

If Core is dated, smells of 1987 ivy league private but no-longer-classical university, a univ that’s abandoned classical-ism, cancelled the Classics dept/college, built Engr bldgs/dept/college instead. “It came from Engineering” (& self-help/hum pot/transper psy/zen) *not* from Classics tho i had a bit of familiarity with going to jsh temple and non-icon’ic, Amer-born, NT-only liturgic, Xy (a denom that rejects “Protes” label as much as “Cath”) — and other brands of typical Xy (not Cath/Anglic) of 1970s/80s.


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Group: egodeath Message: 5626 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 23/11/2011
Subject: Re: Two accompanying up/down torchbearers, thieves, etc
What item in Tauroc does up torch illum? What top-level topic does that map to in Core theory?
Sol (& Luna). nonctrl or esp, source of thoughts

What in Taur needs no torch? What top-level topic does that map to in Core theory?
Bull. Middle level. ctrl-loss

What item in Tauroc does down torch illum? What top-level topic does that map to in Core theory?
Snake. worldline; heimarmene; block universe.


See 3-level taurocs.

Top Layer/Level (above the mind)
Sol (really existing giver/source of thoughts) and Luna (really existing executor) are in top layer outside the cave curve ceiling.

Middle Layer/Level (the mind)
Awareness (Mithras’ looking), bull, and dog (faithfulness/trust/loyalty/obedient dependence) are in middle.

Lower Layer/Level (underlying the mind)
snake, sometimes leading to mshr krater cup/receptacle, or = to that, up to blood of bull which comes from krater woumd (cmp monk collecting jesus’ spear-wound blood into cup: there, direct connection is made between wound & cup thus wound & krater, womb = tomb = wound; m-wine = spear = blood).

Holy Grail = womb = the thot-receiver (receptacle/vessel/womb) component of the personal control system in the mind = mshr. in grail is liq is spm is thot inserted by Gd or by the program instruction sequence programmed by Gd.


Mithraism some tauroctonys show:
one torch flame held up above cave ceiling, lighting-up (making us perceive) Sol, the uncontrollable injector of command-thoughts into the mind, as a control-thought-stream ray; and
the other torch held down below the bull, lighting-up (making us perceive) the hiemarmene-snake underneath us — the hidden, vine-shaped rail that we are steered and forced along like in a haunted house carnival ride, or the branch-path a squirrel follows from the trunck to the branch the squirrel ends up at, or like a snake winding up a tree.


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