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A new September 8 upload as a guitar-centric recording, derived from the previously uploaded episode 219 voice Part A.
Description:
Guitar, stereo room miked. Has a little voice in middle.
0:00 guitar turned up a little during live broadcast performance at end of show.
2:40 hissy guitar from show lead-in.
3:13 Egodeath Mystery Show intro.
3:30 Diamond Hammer of Interpretation of Myth.
4:04 repeat of the 2:40 from start, end tapered differently else identical.
6:51 End.
Good amp-in-the-room stereo miking. 2 cabs, 2 mics.
I didn’t want the 2.5-minute guitar perf to be only hidden at end of Part A voice recording.
There was a good show finale assertion of the Diamond Hammer of Interpretation of Myth, then Intro voice at end of show just before I did the outro performance, so I kept those short voice segments, and then repeated the 2.5-min guitar recording so I can listen to it.
Original sequence during live-format show:
hissy guitar from start of show, then 3 parts i did at end of show:
Diamond Hammer of Interpretation of Myth, then
Egodeath Mystery Show intro (at end of show) Aug 30, then
outro show performance 2.5 minutes 2-cab stereo-miked guitar.
The “sacrifice of Isaac” scene with ram caught helplessly in mushroom thicket – the mind is made to demonstrate control vulnerability in God-mode override-of-control-limits state, threatening one’s child-thinking to death, cross the boundary that transforms the control model into recognizing the two distinct levels of control, reaching the control stability boundary violation, perceive underlying dependent control not autonomous control.
The Egodeath Community is helpful in asking to focus the Egodeath theory on a 2-level model as the foundation & center, not 3.
The actual nature of ego transcendence is that the mind changes from possibilism-thinking to eternalism-thinking.
Greedy 3-level model results in losing all understanding, rather than “twice the transcendence”.
Erik Davis proves that simplicity is the foundation of an effective, powerful explanatory model of the altered state, in Led Zeppelin IV p. 118 & 122.
In my university course design, the 2-level model is the emphasis, not 3, just as math courses avoid complex intractable math problems that force an empirical solution.
My emphasis regarding 3-level models is their tendency to spawn and foster incomprehension and fog and misleading ironic clever inversions that mislead people to sell a corrupted spirituality product to people who want to avoid Transcendent Knowledge – exhibit A: Hanegraaff falling into the I Hate Fate trap that his hermetic text heroes dug for him, to sell their hazy, crude, confusing, roundabout, inefficient priestcraft product.
If I thought poetry haze were desirable, I would not have had to create the Egodeath theory to speak clearly for once and construct a useful, usable technology for understanding Transcendent Knowledge and how mythic hazy garbled poetry is mainly reflecting Transcendent Knowledge – reflecting but not explaining, and often, avoiding Transcendent Knowledge.
Look at Hanegraaff’s confusion as if enlightenment is switching from initial eternalism-thinking to final possibilism-thinking – 3-level overreach backfires into incomprehension.
The {Sacrifice of Isaac} is firmly 2-level in focus & emphasis.
Understanding the mytheme-set {Isaac and disempowered bush-caught ram} is basic/essential.
Even if the Egodeath theory is a clear simple explanatory model, still it is challenging to describe/ map to non-poetic direct explanation of control-transcendence the myth theme {threatening the child} – new mytheme to add to the Key Mythemes catalog.
The Egodeath theory is, since its start in 1985, emphatically disdainful of poetic analogy as a foundation; such an approach is the problem and is the reason why we effectively didn’t have Transcendent Knowledge in the way we have increasing science and technology.
There are two legs of the Egodeath theory, but really it stands on its right leg only (STEM, Loose Cog Science) and never stood on the leg of mythemes/ poetic analogy as a basis.
Hanegraaff is an outright Newage spiritualist/ religionist compared to me.
He talks about a scientific foundation for study of history of religion then he fabricates and imagines (a theme of his book) a fantasy backwards version of spirituality and a mystic cosmos that contradicts all science and mystic sensible coherent tradition too.
I’m the actual science-grounded theory, which enables me to do a better, correct job of resolving myth, accurately identifying its referent in the loose cognitive intense mystic altered state of consciousness. Per the non-myth-grounded, entheogen mytheme theory.
My 1997 attempt to condense the cybernetic theory of ego transcendence failed, kept ballooning not converging, until I distinctly incorporated mythic metaphorical description 2003-2006.
Douglas Hofstadter has two books advocating in the title that analogies are the essence of thinking.
STEM aims for the most direct and clear expression,using analogies to clarify the actual referent clearly identified, not to cloud and fog it all up in an Atman Substitution project (Wilber) to protect the mind from revealed knowledge that the mind desires to reject and avoid and deny.
God is defined as the higher control level, in the Egodeath theory; the uncontrollable source of control-thoughts.
I find it constitutionally easy because my thinking is based in STEM and practical figuring stuff out, easy and natural for me to distinguish between my STEM-type core theory vs. its decoding/mapping/ recognizing of mythic metaphor analogy poetic descriptive mythemes.
Two legs; stand on the right leg, to gain Transcendent Knowledge straightforwardly.
I am glad the Egodeath Community supports a streamlined powerful clear 2-level model.
The Egodeath theory is the definitive seminal 2-level and 3-level explanation of mind and myth – and explaining avoidance strategies to preserve lower thinking in a foggy haze.
Any multi-state scientific theory of religious myth must be excellent at explaining both 2-level & 3-level models, to be relevant; that is the explanandum that is given to us.
Resolve mythic analogy, as description, to its non-hazy, non-avoidant, non-poetic, non-substitutive referent – identify how a set of mythemes is analogous to things of the transformation trajectory in the loose cognitive state.
Cybermonk September 7, 2022. Note February 20, 2023: I just found this page, a dup with recent Saint Martin’s page, so am cross-linking via See Also section.
Let’s check in on the wisdom from the academics regarding branching-message mushroom trees:
The leading anthropologist teaching about psychoactive mushrooms in a religious context since 1975 – Brown & Brown, 2016, p. 120:
“But when it comes to interpreting the frescoes at Saint Martin and elsewhere, the art historians are the ones who “remain blind” — who, due to their lack of knowledge of ethnomycology, mistake psychoactive mushrooms for trees and branches — and sometimes err in the interpretation of Romanesque religious paintings.” – Brown & Brown
Panofsky’s 2nd letter, photograph of it published in Brown 2019 p. 146:
“Some especially ignorant craftsman may have misunderstood the finished product, the “Pilzbaum”, as a real mushroom. But even that is not very probably because even the most mushroom-like specimens show at least some trace of ramification; if the artists had labored under the delusion that the model before him was meant to be a mushroom rather than a schematized tree he would have omitted the branches altogether.” – The most influential art historian, Erwin Panofsky
My Post to Brown at Academia.edu
Your March 21, 2022 email gave a quoted passage with 2 phrases with better, more vivid use of italic and bold than in your 2016 book, about: “Youths … clamor up trees to break off branches … or cut away at the treetops“.
That’s one reason why the book didn’t awaken my mytheme-detection (2.5 years after my Nov. 2013 “tree vs snake” non-branching breakthrough) but your email’s copy/paste from the article did.
9:27 pm September 6, 2022: After around April 2022, I’m looking again for your possible garbled/puzzling claim that there are multiple knives at trees – where?
Now I think I know what you’re referring to.
Hypothesis for me to examine by Finding your word “knife”, “sword”, “knives”: You’re mis-seeing a diamond-leaved, removed branch (removed possibility branching) as if the branch is a sword. [It’s a spear pointing at Jesus’ side. https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=spearhead ]
[This mistake prevents Brown from seeing the contrast that’s being presented: left hand holds multi-branch tree while in contrast, right hand holds a different, single-branch, non-branching tree.]
Or the branch could be intended as both removed branch and a sword [spear] to specifically to remove branching, like God’s sword at the major cut branch of the psilocybin branching-message mushroom tree in in Eadwine’s nonbranching-initiation image, in which the youth after ingesting psilocybin at the banquet (brought to by the higher controller) looks at God (higher control level) just like in Brinckmann’s plate & in your St. Martin fresco.
I’m also decoding at the moment – again, but better – your article’s interpretation:
“We can only speculate why a mushroom tree is growing on top (or out of) the roof of a stone tower. Perhaps, the artist is using this device to show the significance of these psychoactive mushrooms in the drama of the Christology unfolding before our eyes.”
I wrote before: “because the analogy-based descriptive mytheme {rock} = the Eternalism block universe per modern physics (Minkowski) in the eternalism-experiencing/ revealing/ perceiving psilocybin altered state.
Now I also add this decoding (identifying the ASC referent of myth-analogies/ descriptions): the {gated city wall} mytheme refers to the altered-state cognitive phenomenon: BOUNDARY OF GNOSIS; you can’t cross into the altered state without control-seizure until you repudiate the possibility-branching worldmodel of control-in-world.
The {wall} mytheme describes those minds that perceive and understand non-branching due to psilocybin loosened perception; wall / gate = crossing the boundary from possibilism-thinking to eternalism-thinking, requires a state-transition sacrificing youthful thinking to gain mature control-stability in the psilocybin altered state of loose cognitive association binding of mental constructs & mental construct processing.
3. holding single, non-branching diamond frond in right hand
Photo credit: Julie M. Brown. Crop by Cybermonk.
3:14 a.m. September 7, 2022 Cybermonk – the well-formed diamond-shaped spearhead points directly at Jesus’s right side; the other 3 point nowhere.
Photo credit: Julie M. Brown. Crop by Cybermonk.
Non-branching spearhead held in right hand points to Jesus’ right side. Jesus dies but doesn’t die. Through this sacrifice as of Isaac come life and fecundity together with wisdom.
3:14 a.m. September 7, 2022 Cybermonk – the well-formed diamond-shaped spearhead points directly at Jesus’s right side; the other 3 point nowhere.
Brown’s “sword” — “a long slightly curved sword in his right hand … the sword shown under the diamond shaped frond in the prior fresco” (Brown 20109) – never mind the curved pruning knife in upper right above it, no mention of that.
4. out-of-view figure holding curved pruning knife in right hand
Photo credit: Julie M. Brown. Crop by Cybermonk.
5. towers: holding knife in right hand
Photo credit: Julie M. Brown veil / cloak the walls – hammer right hand, nails left hand
Photo credit: Julie M. Brown. The provided crop cuts off the mushroom on right edge, hem.
Photo credit: Julie M. Brown. Knives and mushrooms.
Image Match: Mushroom Tree with Sword, Affirming Cutting/Removing Branching and Affirming Right Limb
Photo credit: Julie M. Brown. Used with permission. Crop & image enhancement of youth in tree with knife by Cybermonk.
Brown’s Superior Bold Italic in Article vs. Inferior Italic in Book at “Break Off/Cut Branches”
Dr. Brown emailed me a copy from the article, not the book, and this shows I need to read the article (and earlier book) more. Brown wrote:
“The reluctance of classicists to admit mushrooms into their idealized version of the birth of civilizations is similar to the ignorance of art historians. As Julie and I point out in “Entheogens in Christian Art”:
In her discussion of Christ’s Entry to Jerusalem, art historian Marcia Kupfer is ostensibly unaware of the prominent mushrooms painted in the upper right-hand corner of this fresco in the Church of Saint Martin (Figure 8). According to Kupfer (1993), [inserted break -cm]
as Christ rides the ass followed by his disciples “several youths excitedly clamor up trees to break off branches, while others unfurl their mantels at his feet. The second phase of the episode on the west wall isolates the walled city of Jerusalem…Youths, their mouths open in song, crowd the gates; others within the city drape the walls or cut away at the treetops” [emphasis added] (p. 122).
2016 book page 119 with weaker italic & no bold:
as Christ rides the ass followed by his disciples “several youths excitedly clamor up trees to break off branches, while others unfurl their mantels at his feet. The second phase of the episode on the west wall isolates the walled city of Jerusalem…Youths, their mouths open in song, crowd the gates; others within the city drape the walls or cut away at the treetops” [emphasis added].
Martin and Eadwine Both Have Set of Images Placing Banquet Next to Removing Mushroom Tree Branching
Brown cuts off the right-side mushroom in the book and article, and then says it’s indistinguishable what Jesus feeds him. Just like we have no idea what could possibly be in Eadwine’s bowls – I can’t think of anything suitable.
Eadwine’s Mushroom Banquet Scene
Martin’s Mushroom Tree Cut Branch Scenes
Photo credit: Julie M. Brown left guy trimming Bonzai branching tree (held in left hand) with clippers to remove the branching (held in right hand)
Photo credit: Julie M. Brown. Crop & image enhancement by Cybermonk September 7, 2022.
Upper left: curved pruning knife in right hand.
Middle: non-branching single-branch plant in right hand.
“a long slightly curved sword in his right hand … the sword shown under the diamond shaped frond in the prior fresco” (Brown 20109)
Brown’s “slightly curved sword” is no such thing (it’s a non-branching tree/branch), but there’s a very curved pruning knife, not mentioned by Brown.
Eadwine’s Mushroom Tree Cut Branch Scene
Jesus Left Fingers Splayed Branching, Right Fingers Together Nonbranching Like Group of Branches Held
11:13 pm Sep (check recording 4038 for what time, if i mentioned aloud the time, when I mentioned splaying fingers vs holding them together) 6 2022:
Plural “knives used to cut through the mushroom stemson the Towers of Jerusalem”? Only one knife can be made out cutting one stem
Update Feb 20 2023: panorama shows knife to the right of the missing paint. See newer Martin page in See Also.
From 2019 article:
“On the table, there are four knives (three to the left of Jesus and one to the far right) similar in length, shape, and handle design to the knives used to cut through the mushroom stems on the Towers of Jerusalem.”
Photo credit: Julie M. Brown. Used with permission. Crop and image processing by Cybermonk September 6, 2022.
One knife is cutting diamond-leaf
Additional, Curved Perseus Medusa Pruning Knife Spotted in Tree in (Fuller) Jerusalem Epiphany Scene
Brown Hallucinates Sword Held by Mid-Blade(!!) Instead of Removed Branch
Photo credit: Julie M. Brown. Crop & image enhancement by Cybermonk September 7, 2022.
12:33 am Sep 7 2022 Cybermonk – left hand holds branching tree (false tree with pruning knife in action to correct it); right hand hold single, non-branching tree’s branch (which leans/points toward higher control level, Jesus).
Upper right figure off right margin: holds curved Perseus pruning knife in right hand, holding a branch in left hand.
pink key tree confirms “left = branching, right = non-branching”
Sep 6 2022 Cybermonk: left fingers splayed branching, right fingers together nonbranching, removed branches held in a nonbranching way (non-splayed, like right fingers held together)
right foot down, raised garment on right = altered state
“Christ is riding on an ass with his arms outstretched [left fingers splayed branching, right fingers held together nonbranching -cm Sep. 6, 2022] to receive a plant-like gift [removed possibility branching -cm] (of which only the stems are visible), offered [RIGHT HAND!!] by one of the youth who with his other [LEFT HAND!!] hand is holding the stem of one of the mushrooms. [BRANCHES]
On the far right of the fresco stands another youth holding the stem of a diamond-shaped frond (possibly a palm frond) in his left [good mention] hand and a long slightly curved sword in his right hand [good mention].
Given that the caps are convex-shaped and without dots and that the main stem spreads out to form several branches,[like Jesus’ left fingers] this is what Samorini labels a Saint Savin-type mushroom tree, which contains psilocybin.”
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” the Towers of Jerusalem. Standing on the roof of the tower [on right legs -cm] are two men, both dressed in mantels similar to those worn by the youth in Christ’s Entry.
“One of them is cutting through the stem of a mushroom tree (Figure 10 ), using a knife that is distinctly shorter than the sword shown under the diamond shaped frond in the prior fresco.”
holding a sword by the blade ??!! like an angel?
new improved colorsPhoto credit: Julie M. Brown. Full image as shown in 2019 article.
Most of Egodeath Mystery Show episode 219, intensive critical study of Hanegraaff, & Brown art images breakthrough announcement, is available for listening.
Some Brown discussion remains to produce, but see companion postings textual as always.
I have Egodeath Mystery Show in music player on mobile device, supports Settings > Music > Eq: Small Spks or Treble Cut.
The first 2/3 is done, producing my past week of voice recordings & stars-restoration guitar pieces. 🌌🎸 See Idea Development page 15 but I need to switch to indiv posts for each episode of Egodeath Mystery Show, but this ep is as epically huge as the 8-level cosmos and I couldn’t produce my very latest voice tracks of ~4019-4035.
To get Egodeath Mystery Show episode 219 & its elekton kithara star music. Latest music further develops techniques so I want to produce those tracks as well as voice recordings about Brown’s mushroom trees in Christian art & critical book review of
Panofsky both letters to Wasson recomm this Brinckmann book and Wasson researched & handwrote full title of book & author name on letter 1 of the pair as I discovered in Browns’ pub’ing of the PAIR of censored lettersPhoto credit: Julie M. Brown. Used with permission. Crop & decoding to identify the referent Eternalism psilocybin cyb cog phen’a by Cybermonk March-August 2022.
9:25 a.m. September 6, 2022: youth in branching-message psilocybin tree perceives/ sees/ looks at God, the higher control-level. Cybermonk.
YOU DON’T CONTROL THE SOURCE OF CONTROL THOUGHTS, psilocybin reveals. Cybermonk.
Photo credit: Julie M. Brown. Used with permission.
Crop & parallels w Brinckmann image & decoding to identify the referent Eternalism psilocybin control-cyb cog phen’a by Cybermonk March-August 2022.
9:25 am sep 6 2022: youth sees looks at perceieves God the higher control level. YOU DON’T CONTROL THE SOURCE OF CONTROL THOUGHTS, psil reveals. Cybermonk.
Expect schizophrenic disintegration fragmentation at this website due to WordPress overdosing on incoherent breakage and suppression and dissociation of old structures without embracing them and integrating them into later developmental structures.
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WordPress UI is changing, unable to do usual structural updates, impeded from updating articles & nav mechanisms.
Expect more use of individual independent daily BLOG 🤢 posts by me than updates of existing posts/pages & site nav mechanisms.
This was an issue back with the Egodeath Yahoo Group format/flow too: should I append my 2001 topical threads, or have a generic topic-independent date-ordered threading?
I’m concerned by the chaos of many isolated posts per day, but as always, there are pros & cons.
Abandoning all previous topic threading commitments and built-up structures is wonderfully powerful in the same way as schizophrenic fragmentation: Pro: innovation. Con: disintegration of structures.
Switching to structurally isolated posts that don’t follow an explicit structure is like my breakthrough switch in April 1987 to expansive boundless binder filler pages 8 1/2 x 11″ (& ) instead of the relatively rigid formal 6×8″ blank-book format,
April 1987 binder sheets also began my innovative use of concept-label acronym shorthand, with the same character as mental constructs, like “ideas as objects”.
The concept-label acronym ‘MCP’ now expands automatically to ‘mental construct processing’ in my composition devices, so the reader cannot see and think in that modularized-concepts way by reading the expanded result. What I type on devices is ‘et’, what I handwrite on paper is ‘ET’, what I then read on devices is ‘eternalism-thinking’.
When WordPress UI stabilizes, I need to update my Key Mythemes catalog (KMC) to added latest my cognizance/ decoding-breakthroughs of {handedness, garment, rider}, {youth in mushroom tree} {seeing /perceiving the higher controller} with {REMOVAL OF BRANCHES} in conjunction with psilocybin mushrooms.
I should write in the form of acronyms too: 1) direct language, 2) {mytheme analogies}, 3) acro’s.
I will add all-cap acronyms when I employ auto text expansion.
Loosening of mental constructs [MCs], mental construct processing [MCP].
Decoding a mytheme network means identifying how it describes, is analogous to, the refenent which is in the domain of things in the loosecog psilocybin state.
By Definition, ‘Loose Cognition’ Means Psilocybin-Loosened Cognition
OFFICIAL PROCLAMATION: In the Egodeath Theory, Loose Cognition Means Specifically Psilocybin Cognition – NO MORE BULLSHIITE 🐮💩->🍄 SHALL BE PERMITTED! 🚫✋🛑😤
strategic bullsht-blocking specificity of defining loosecog means specifically psilocybin, almost as if exclusively against Hanegraaff’s anti-gnosis “broadening” bs redefinition/ neutering and disarming the term ‘entheogen’.
Redefining aggressively defensively, officially in the Egodeath theory the word “loose cog assn binding” SPECIFICALLY MEANS PSILOCYBIN 😤😠😡
bc I am PISSED OFF at BULLSHIITE that DECEIVES people of trying to SUBSTITUTE BY PLACEBOS like cave meditation at-will imagination exercises. Forget You!
LOOSE COG MEANS PSILOCYBIN COG.
In 1985-1997, I never thought I would be FORCED to spotlight this specific trigger for loosecog, but MY HAND WAS FORCED eg by Ruck pull-quoting me to twist and derail my meaning from what I meant, “mixed wine is psilocybin wine”, to make it seem like I asserted “mixed wine is amanita wine”, in the 2006 book titled:
Announcing Art Breakthrough of Brown’s Two Images: Youths Hold Removed Possibility Branching, Put Right Leg Forward, Remove Their Worldmodel Garment Placed Under Epiphany Perception of Higher Controller
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imagine if I said the takeaway from the Eadwine image is that gnosis is conversion from right leg to left leg because the sage lifts right foot.
This is the extent of Hanegraaff falling for the hermetic poetic ironic inversion use of the theme “I Hate Fate”.
He paints an inverted model of psychospiritual development from eternalism to possibilism, that’s so extremely untenable, he has to avoid the topic of fixed stars, which destroys his that-delicate, perishable, flimsy model.
Sacrifice to the Astral Daimons to End Their Tormenting
Cognitive Dissonance Solved, My Assertion Confirmed! You Sacrifice TO the Fate-Daimons to Appease Them and Ward-off Their Torments (Not Their Reality/Power)
I reread the page before “to drive away the fate-controller daimons, she offers sacrifice.”
In yesterday’s voice recordings for Egodeath Mystery Show, I yelled: “to who? To who?! This is incoherent incomprehension — or a whitewash cover-up by Hanegraaff; you don’t just “offer sacrifice“, to nothing and to no divinity!! That’s not how sacrifice worked, that’s vague, superficial, magical thinking!”
I stumbled very happily upon and reread: The previous page”s quoted ancient text confirms my answer that I asserted: she sacrificed TO the fate-controllers: to the astral / planetary daimons.
Of whom the emperor is Helios demiurge in the fixed stars level – he says “Helios divine demiurge” in another article/context I found yesterday, check Gnosis entry 2016 Cam. Hbk W Mys/Esotericism.
To end torments when ascending through the 7 planetary spheres, you must HONOR, by sacificing to, the fate controllers.
You sacrifice your claim to be not controlled by fate/eternalism, to gain control stability.
Announcing Art Breakthrough of Brown’s Two Images
Youths Hold Removed Possibility Branching, Put Right Leg Forward, Remove Their Worldmodel Garment (Cloak) Placed Under Epiphany Perception of Higher Controller
This is separate from Hanegraaff progress, but in Sep 3 Sat voice recordings, I (too briefly so far) discussed the problem of announcing this major art breakthrough of interpretation: that youth are in a branching tree holding removed possibility branching and Jesus approaches.
I identified this by using, among other images, most prominently, two isomorphic images from Brown. Jesus on right-foot donkey approaches youth and tree, youth holding out removed possibility-branching in right arm.
This is the Jesus revelation of the higher controller, in images that show mushroom trees, that include youths in trees holding onto branching with left hand, and holding out removed branching with the right hand, as Jesus the higher controller approaches and makes his epiphany entrance, and is seen; as the youths in the trees see Jesus the higher controller, in these mushroom images of {branching-message trees}, asserting non-branching, and handedness.
I also made progress decoding/mapping/interpreting/ resolving the “garment” (cloak) mytheme by considering (mainly by talking on the Egodeath Mystery Show a couple days ago as a sudden aside) that Ariadne in Dionysus victory procession mosaic holds garment like she holds branch in left arm so THEREFORE GARMENT/CLOAK = ILLUSORY BRANCHING = egoic possibilism mental worldmodel, now removed & revealing – like Brown’s interpretation of Eve’s ribs made visible under flesh:
The underlying eternalism reality: Dionysus wears the glorious garment of the eternalism mental worldmodel, holds nonbranching spear in right arm: Sep 4 11:14am note: BOTH ARIADNE AND DIONYSUS CONTRAST TWO ELEMENTS: GARMENT/CLOAK 1 VS 2 (her removed garment, his glorious garment), HELD ITEM 1 VS 2 (branch vs nonbranching spear).
JESUS IS THE PSILOCYBIN REVELATION OF NON-BRANCHING including Douglas Hofstadter awareness of levels of control.
Jesus is the higher controller and the awareness that you are subject to and controlled by a higher controller, or something that is higher than or outside or beyond your domain of personal control power.
The Psilocybin eucharist
You see that don’t control the source of control thoughts, and you see monopossibility.
Control agency seems to be steering in a tree, but with the psilocybin eucharist, the tree is revealed to be non-branching (like a snake-shaped path in the tree).
Eustace window, Chartres cathedral
Eustace window, Chartres cathedral: left leg (heel raised, no weight on it) = possibilism thinking/ initial branching-premise; right leg / foot/ limb/hand/arm = eternalism-thinking/ non-branching reality.
mushroom Christian art image in Brinckmann 1906 book twice recomm to Wasson by Panofsky, Brown translated 1/4 to English at my Brinckmann page here.
{fire/light arch} decoded
1:05 p.m. September 4, 2022: The fire arch in this medieval painting means the perception, able to see eternalism, from outside the block universe; the hypercosmic perspective.
I’m lifted up outside of eternalism / heimarmene so that I am able to see it – NOT so that I become magically freed and empowered over it (except insofar as “I” am God the creator/ higher controller – which ain’t much in any actionable sense).
The Eighth Gate: The Mithraic Lion-Headed Figure and the Platonic World-Soul click here.
Cosmic symbolism in the Gospels (from the Journal of Biblical Literature) click here.
The Mithraic Mysteries, published in Scientific American (December, 1989), click here.
{youth in tree}
Artist could have made left foot floating, right foot on cut branch.
Photo credit: Julie M. Brown, used with permission, crop by Cybermonk. Take off possibilism garment/cloak, remove it and uncover truth underlying visible, put your garment/cloak underneath the revealed higher control level.
Take off your possibilism garment/cloak, remove it and uncover truth underlying visible, put your garment/cloak underneath the revealed higher control level.
Take off your possibilism appearance covering garment/cloak, remove it and uncover truth underlying, made visible/perceptible: the youth perceives Jesus as king/higher controller and asserts non-branching.
The arrival of perceiving the higher controller when psilocybin, removes branching possibilities. King Inevitability & personal non-control of control-thoughts/ possibility steering.
Right leg forward, asserting eternalism not possibilism, not branching possibilities steered among by the purported power of personal control agency.
I should try image processing/ enhancing the ~4 images of held branches.
put weight on right leg, affirm right arm.
I fit perennialial essentialist gnosis – Transcendent Knowledge – on a post-it note, in STEM fashion per my approach which is the multistate cognitive science of religion approach which hanegraaff invites to contribute to academic study of history of religion/ esotericism.
youths in tree asserting non-branching, cut branchingMithras above your possibility branching steering control power treePhoto credit: Julie M. Brown, used with permission. Left vs right hand. Crop & image processing by Cybermonk.Photo credit: Julie M. Brown, used with permission. Crop & image processing by Cybermonk. Right leg touches non-branching part of tree (11:22 a.m. Sep 4, 2022).
psilocybin removes branching of the control-agent’s possibility-steering tree, makes perceptible the epiphany of higher control level arriving with weight on right leg.
local control agent in heimarmene rock is overpowered then blessed by the revealed higher controller after psilocybin sacred meal serieslater, further confirmation of my hypothesis that {king steering in tree} would be a meaningful mytheme-configuration that we should expect to find in religious myth / esotericism art.{king steering in a tree}
~2011 – I was sure glad to get this confirmation of my hypothesis of extending/ expecting to find instances of equivalent to {King Pentheus in a tree}! Around 2011, I asked “Isn’t {king steering in a tree} a great efficient condensed mytheme combination configuration we need and should expect to find? Answer: YES.
Campbell: Power of Myth, Illustrated Edition – week/day of breakthrough discovery full grasp of equation/decoding “{tree} vs. {snake} = possibilism vs. eternalism”.eating the amanita scroll causes lifted garment/cloak. Probably from John Rush gallery.
Eating the amanita scroll (indicates psilocybin) causes lifted garment/cloak, revealing the reality under the garment/cloak/appearance that covers and hides the underlying reality about personal control agency and its power of possibility branching steering.
Announcement: I have positively identified, in the past week, what the youths in mushroom-related trees are holding in right arm: removed branches, meaning removed possibility branching; asserting eternalism rather than possibilism.
Depiction of anti-naturalistic diamond leaves means the morphology is the message; the art message is about branching, not a species of tree.
Mushroom trees are in this image from Albert Brinckmann’s book that Erwin Panofsky twice recommended in the pair of letters to Wasson that you published, so this is to be considered as a mushroom tree; a branching-message mushroom tree.
Photo credit: Julie M. Brown, used with permission, crop by Cybermonk.
I did this (made this realization, made this connection) by late at night idly gathering my gallery of images of guys in trees, and holding branches, including especially two images that are associated with you: Julie’s photos and Brinckmann’s 1906 book Tree Stylizations in Medieval Art, plate 7. https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/12/11/brinckmann-mushroom-trees-asymmetrical-branching/
The next day, I confirmed the merit/defensibility of this conjectured reading, which I have been working on ever since you emailed us around Spring 2022 ~April that the fresco scholar wrote about youths “cutting branches” (your bolding); I asked what the heck is he holding out to Jesus on donkey in right hand?
Answer this week: removed possibility branches/branching a la asserting the Eternalism rather than Possibilism metaphysical model of time & control per Stanford online ency. Philosophy: Philosophy of Time article.
I may have conjectured that as soon as receiving your “cutting branches” email, but now it’s a positive, articulated, defensible, well-specified & well-evidenced identification.
Especially it became clear last weekend when I put the two pictures together to see the isomorphisms centered at donkey & youth in mushroom-related tree holding removed branching while seeing Jesus’ arrival.
2. After that, I made a dedicated posting on the same art interpretation subject:
3. Today I wrote up from yesterday’s Egodeath Mystery Show discussion recordings segment on same subject-cluster: {garment, handednesss [donkey right foot down, left not; right foot forward], nonbranching, epiphany, branching-message mushroom trees}: https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/09/04/progress-on-the-hanegraaff-front/
— Michael
Gnosis Is of Heimarmene/ Fatedness/ Eternalism
I strikingly noticed something about his list of gnosis vs: “Demiurge, archons, heimarmene, astral fate, etc”: when Hanegraaff’s Gnosis handbook-entry was claiming that the latter are not the proper center of focus but instead we should make gnosis the proper center of focus.
Every single one of his gnostic mythology terms that he claims is inappropriately emphasized as the center of focus, every one of the gnostic mythemes that he lists describes heimarmene/ fatedness/ eternalism!
See Egodeath Mystery Show pending, recorded ~Sep. 1-4 2022, for Episode 219.
Big finding: in his “Gnosis” 12-page entry in The Cambridge Handbook of Western Mysticism and Esotericism (Magee 2016), Hanegraaff replaces heimarmene-related list of gnostic myth themes by gnosis as the center of focus. But they are same!!
He asserts the false dichotomy of “we should centrally focus on gnosis, instead of on heimarmene myth themes”.
His unthinking presupposition is that gnosis is not about heimarmene/ eternalism/ no-free-will.
He assumes unthinkingly that gnosis reveals some knowledge other than, and essentially unrelated to, heimarmene/ fatedness/ eternalism.
Gnosis is of heimarmene/ eternalism/ you don’t control the source of control thoughts, they are separate control levels a la D Hofstadter GEB.
The mind experiences this revelation as being a helpless 1) puppet 2) frozen in rock 3) coerced by the experience of sacred transcendent deja vu, the experience of remembering “oh no oh yes, I remember, here is the episode where my control is threatened to death”;
Every direction the mind turns spells same conclusion: no effective control is based on possibilism thinking when this aspect of the mind is vividly perceived and tested in the altered state, loose cog assn state, divine madness.
Sacrifice/ jettison that possibilism / branching thinking to retain stable, effective control.
Sun Scarab Is Psychoactive Because Eats Psilocybin Mushrooms
Holy Cow 💩🍄
Hanegraaff has been a mycologist since youth.
The Sun Scarab dung beetle may be psychoactive, since likes to eat dung mushrooms, he surmises.
Today Sep 3 2022 I read all pages in his book, on keywords index entries related to psychoactives.
Essentialism in Gnosis Is as Sound & Routine as with any Natural Law
Hanegraaff writes twice in his Versluis rebuttal “You can’t write history of gnosis, when you hold that gnosis exists distinctly from history.”
You can’t write history of astronomy, when you hold that astronomy exists distinctly from history.”
ALL THE TIME we write about natural law (considered distinct from history) AND about the history of ideas about natural law.
Per the Egodeath theory; the cybernetic theory of ego transcendence, confirmed by the complete, full explanatory success of the entheogen mytheme theory:
Transcendent Knowledge is natural law like Maxwell’s laws of electromagnetism.
Hanegraaff asserts that historians can’t ever know if Transcendent Knowledge actually exists.
That’s like saying the same for electromagnetism.
By every sensible measure, he asserts uncomprehending nonsense, a malformed, misconceived assertion.
This is defeatism and intellectual feeble cowardice, putting gnosis way too high and out of reach, beyond comprehension.
His error is due to his not knowing what gnosis actually refers to.
He calls for multistate cognitive science of religion (my Loose Cog Sci per the Egodeath theory; he applauds Shanon) to contribute to the study of history of religion/esotericism.
Luther H. Martin, a colleague of David Ulansey of CIIS ( California Institute of Integral Studies; https://www.ciis.edu), advocates the approach of Cognitive Science of Religion, but alas is merely single-state; Martin fails to incorporate the psilocybin altered state; loose cognitive association binding.
The “Consciousness Studies” bookcase exists in the New Age bookshop section, in 1994 yet he naively (his word) wrote that New Age religion is not inspired by psychedelics.
Hanegraaff Cites Ken Wilber’s Eye to Eye
FINDING: Hanegraaff’s 1996 New Age Religion book cites Ken Wilber’s book and chapter 1 essay Eye to Eye, using the abbreviation ‘EtE’.
The book heavily covers Ken Wilber.
Ken Wilber’s books are placed in the “Consciousness Studies” section (Psychedelics Spirituality) in New Age bookstores.
Hanegraaff walked past that “Consciousness Studies” section (containing Wilber’s books & Psychedelic Spirituality), while naively writing that New Age isn’t inspired by psychedelics.
Eye to Eye (the essay) is better than Hanegraaff’s defeatism, his anti-essentialism, his anti-perennialism.
That invitation contradicts his claim that perennialism is false, that essentialism is false.
Tons of scholars object to Hanegraaff here, and say he should take gnosis more seriously as something we can say exists to discuss in itself distinctly from history.
But they are all in a dustup based in their shared confusion and incomprehension.
The mind transforms from possibilism to eternalism mental worldmodel when exposed to Eadwine’s two bowls of cubensis one and a half hours apart times 10 weeks.
This is about how the mind works.
This is how the mind works – without reference to history.
All the time, we write history of models of how the mind works; see Paul Thagard’s book Conceptual Revolutions.
So much for the specious, confused, malformed, self-contradictory claim that you can’t study the history of something that you say exists distinctly from history particulars.
– while he calls for multi-state cognitive science to contribute to history of esotericism, contradicting himself.
This is perennial essentialist gnosis, which is 100% perfectly offensive to & poison to egoic presuppositions, because this experiential revelation utterly collapses possibilism’s premise of autonomous control-power.
Perennial gnosis is: psilocybin reveals you don’t control the source of control thoughts.
“You cannot write the history of gnosis if you hold that gnosis transcends history”
Tonight (Sep 3 2022) I read a couple statements from Hanegraaff that were so easy to completely demolish, about the limits of scholarship, and it made me wonder just how massive are my disagreements with Hanegraaff just how full of baloney is he, and how off-base his disputes with Arthur Versluis and name-calling of each other and misunderstanding each each other and arguing about irrelevant muddleheaded things: oriental Platonism or Platonic orientalism (who knows, who cares) —
if I thought that stuff were worth arguing about, I would have studied that and made it my foundation like Hanegraaff does, worshiping Plato even though Plato is such a failure, such a complete failure of communication that it took modern scholars 500 years merely to just figure out that he’s talking about the mystic altered state.
This is a total failure of communication.
This poetry analogy metaphor roundabout approach to explaining Transcendent Knowledge does not work at all, and the extent to which it does not work is the fact that scholars have been studying Plato forever and only now have a dim slight realization that he’s talking about the mystic altered state.
This is practically a total failure of pre-modern approaches to Communication and theory/ model contruction and communication and expression.
This is precisely why I set about taking two weeks which became two years in 1985 saying I am taking the wheel here, let me show you how it’s done: use the can-do clear thinking clear expression of engineering and science, and I do not mean conducting experiments and such, I mean the character, the can-do spirit of “figure stuff out clearly and clearly teach and explain it”.
This is exactly what mystics revel in not doing, so it raises your question of, Is Hanegraaff more of an ally or more of the bad, old, failed approach that deserves really no particular respect.
That was one thing I especially remember my father teaching me beware of respecting people, beware of holding someone in reverence, because you’ll be limited to their limitation.
I saw some things written by Hanegraaff so malformed, such worthless argumentation, such a failure of critical thinking.
False dichotomies galore, particular statements by him that are clearly dead wrong — how much respect does he deserve?
As much disdain– he deserves a lot of disdain; he puts forth a lot of incredibly malformed, unthinking assertions, these false dichotomies that “an academic scholar cannot have mystic experiencing”, (error: emphasizing only differentiation, not integration of techniques and of experiences)
things like that, that are trivially easy to completely shatter — they don’t hold up to scrutiny for two seconds, and he has a lot of statements like these on the subject of “you smell funny and you are a religionist”. “No, YOU are a religionist.” 🙄
I am talking about the article which I had read a couple weeks before:
“The simple truth is that I do not hate religionism at all.
“On the contrary, I see it as an inherently problematic but very important intellectual tradition.
“Religionist scholarship has always been an endlessly fascinating phenomenon for me, and I have the greatest respect for its famous representatives (plus some of its less famous ones).
“So what do I find so “problematic”?
“Simply the fact that you cannot write the history of something that transcends history.
“Still, the very impossibility of resolving this paradox [no more “paradoxical” than academic history of astronomy -cm], which I believe lies at the heart of religionism, has led to brilliantly creative and profound attempts at resolving it nevertheless.
“That is where the fascination lies, at least for me.
“In this regard – and here Arthur and I find ourselves in agreement – the religionism of Eranos is somewhat similar to the great tradition of Platonism, which I admire even more, and which lives from the deep contradiction between Being (the eternal forms or ideas) [eternalism -cm] and Becoming (our world of impermanence and change) [possibilism -cm].
[the initiated mind possesses both the earlier developmental structure, per Ken Wilber, and the later mental worldmodel – both are intact and are employed by the fully developed mind -cm]
“Being able to hold two contradictory notions in one’s mind at the same time is not a sign of intellectual weakness: on the contrary, all the great metaphysical thinkers in the Platonic tradition (think for instance of Cusanus or Bruno) have known that, once you go beyond first appearances in exploring reality, you encounter logical paradoxes all the way down – or rather, into infinity.”
funnel hat sage worrying about Becoming vs. Being
2:00 pm Sep 4 2022: sage’s bag of knowledge includes non-branching walking stick staff: he touches eternalism knowledge and carries possibilism thinking.
Bearded guy pours gnosis into clueless youth’s sack, who is happy to receive it (he doesn’t carry it on his own/ legs yet).
Sage’s sack neither rests on ground nor carried on his back, but floats like him, emanating from the stable column base.
emanating from block universe nonduality Thee Hypnotics: Come Down Heavy
Funnel hat sage worrying about Becoming vs. Being; possibilism vs. eternalism – with mushroom hem stable column base; able to function both in the mundane daily marketplace & in the psilocybin loose cognitive mystic altered state without control instability/seizure.
He carries the limbless, qualified possibilism-thinking (which includes eternalism-thinking), which is youthful thinking available to him, not destroyed or rejected or discarded, and his thinking is compatible with the psilocybin mushroom state while retaining control stability.
Possessing and having available two distinct mental worldmodels is hardly a “paradox”, but you can call it that, if you want to frame this maturation as incomprehensible.
There is no “paradox” between doing both:
Understanding astronomy or laws of electromagnetism or gnosis (Transcendent Knowledge; that which is efficiently explained by the Egodeath theory) in itself, and
Studying & documenting the history of ideas about astronomy, electricity & magnetism, & gnosis (Transcendent Knowledge).
His Unscientific, Stars-Incompatible Cosmos Revision to Invert Cognitive Development as if from Eternalism Delusion Through the Saturn Gate into the Revelation of Egoic Possibilism
Hanegraaff is under enormous pressure and scrutiny.
He is the academic field of Western Esotericism.
And in writing a review that describes the book for potential readers, and points out its cosmos-sized errors (failure to recognize that psilocybin reveals heimarmene/ eternalism; aiming “instead” for gnosis — as if gnosis is not centrally a revelation of Fatedness), I feel this weight of responsibility, completely unlike what I felt with posting a five star quickly written critical review of Carl Ruck & M. Hoffman’s book “Entheogens, myth and human consciousness”.
it is very hard to justify penalizing this book omitting a star (like the author deletes all of the stars except for five white dots in his night sky).
This field and book is too important to just pat him on the head with five stars.
I would be telling a lie in a very important field.
Out of respect for the field, not the author, I need to delete a star (like he does on the scale of thousands) and level with people and let them know just how disastrous & confusing this extremely anti-scientific, purely fantasy-based imaginational construct of his mystic cosmos that has absolutely no connection with science or with mystic sensible conventions.
He hasn’t even read Ulansey, or if he has, I do not understand why he doesn’t mention that his mystic cosmos model (asserted heavily, citation-supported never) completely flies in the face of every treatment of the subject and provides zero citations for his false claim that the highest level of the cosmos is number seven, implicitly claiming that the hermetic texts assert this nonsensical impossibility.
Then he tells lies, completely unscientific, based purely on hearsay, redefining the word entheogen to mean the exact opposite of what it means, elevating fraudulent lies and falsehoods up into the sacred level of now-respectable Psilocybin, introducing falsehood, inviting every deceiver up to the hallowed levels, now respectable, of psilocybin — I think not!
Keep your deceitful not-even hypothesis pollution away from our sacred Theory: “Other, unknown methods can produce entheogenic effects”: not even a specified hypothesis; zero scientific disconfirmability or specificity, based purely on hearsay and conjecture.
Scientific foundation of history? Hanegraaff proffers the exact opposite. his book indiscriminately jumbles together his own fantasy cosmos pulled straight from his imagination with zero citations to back it up, that level eight is above heimarmene – no text ever says that, and no text ever can say it; it’s an incoherent notion that’s impossible, as impossible as saying that the stars don’t exist, or that they exist in planet / moving motion level seven.
This is just sheer nonsense concocted from his imagination, jumbled together with what he claims to be “scientific history”, without him saying a single word to warn the reader, but this cosmos model is something that he is putting forth as an imaginary hypothesis.
But what is so revealing is that he doesn’t dare say a single word about the fixed stars, because it would utterly destroy his cosmic model; he cannot talk about it except to stammer in footnote 114, hidden, buried, incomplete sentence saying I don’t know where the fixed stars go: in level eight or in level seven, the planet Saturn.
Should I give him a medal, a star, for quietly admitting that he doesn’t know the first thing about fixed stars, and that he cannot say anything about them because they do not fit — his model is completely incompatible with the fixed stars, so he has to remain silent and sweep them under the Saturn rug and conflate slot 8 with the actual above-Fate level 9, so that he can tell his inverted narrative of entheogenic transformation from eternalism to possibilism: “Transcendent Knowledge” according to the egoic freewill premised worldmodel.
“Ego death and rebirth is from eternalism to possibilism: just silently move the stars [the heimarmene destination that is gnosis; Transcendent Knowledge] from above the Saturn gate to below it.”
Hanegraaff’s 2016 12-page entry “Gnosis” in Cam. Handbook of W Mystm & Esotericism calls for moving the center of focus of Esotericism/ Gnosticism scholarship from heimarmene to gnosis – a total false dichotomy; he ought to call for recognition of how gnosis AS heimarmene-comprehension is the actual center, and that *combination*, that recognition, needs to be the center of scholarly focus.
Erik Davis gets it right in the book Led Zeppelin IV, but academics can’t keep up, because Transcendent Knowledge is too simple (and offensive to freewill egoic possibilism premises), for academics to engage with.
The Ultimate Religionism: Claiming Everything Is Predetermined
In a comment, Hanegraaff finally troubles himself to define his damn terms: “Religionism I define technically as:
“The project of exploring historical sources in search of what is eternal and universal”.
The Egodeath theory since the core theory was defined and announced in 1997-1998, ever since 1998 has created the entheogen mytheme theory of religion for the purpose of obtaining confirmation of the cybernetic theory of ego transcendence (the Core Egodeath theory as of 1998). I couldn’t obtain confirmation from Mr. Historical Jesus – nor Mr. Saint Paul – so I successfully obtained that confirmation by looking in fields including religious myth (as I had done in Rock lyrics first, and in Gnosis journal since the mid-1990s): looking for corroboration, which required interpretation and constructing an explanatory framework to elegantly explain the referent of myth analogies. By providing a superior interpretation of myth, I got confirmation of the merit and soundness and relevance of the Egodeath theory.
The Egodeath theory: in the loose cognitive state from psilocybin, the mental worldmodel changes from literalist ordinary-state possibilism with autonomy-premised control, to analogical psychedelic eternalism with dependent control. ‘Analogical’ refers to the Mytheme theory.
I don’t know why the discussion ends up switching to the subject of “religionism is assertions about the future”, where the hell did that focus/topic come from? The whole conversation is random and arbitrary agenda proxies. I read a lot of Hanegraaff re: religionism, he never said it was about the future.
Commenter Kurt Leland wrote:
“Lest my definition of the extreme religionist perspective be perceived as biased because it seems rosier than its opposite, keep in mind that I hinted that my naming the poles of the continuum of objectivist/pessimist and subjectivist/optimist was ironic. The ultimate extreme of religionism would be an entirely predetermined order in which the transcendental plan[what the f, what is this conversation about? why are you suddenly talking about “plan”, out of the blue? -cm] controls every aspect of history, repeating itself in endless cycles until we find some way to free ourselves from it. This is the only “worthy” opposite to the complete chaos at the other extreme.”
[I’m here to model the scientific theory of gnosis, not argue about the future plan. I sense this whole conversation is a proxy. -cm]
There is a funny comment at the bottom of Hanegraaff’s weblog posting against or the rebuttal of Arthur Versluis that sets out a spectrum ranging from 1) chaos which is the opposite of 2) the perennialist essentialist approach to explaining Gnosis,
which says that there is a perennial tradition of a gnosis that exists outside of the history of chaotic particulars happenstance.
This commentor defines a spectrum and he claims that on the extreme end of what would be a pure extreme Religionism, the ultimate version would be, the ultimate perfect pure essentialism would be an assertion that everything is pre-determined.
iow the Egodeath theory! per Erik Davis p 118 122 book Led Zep IV.
except the commenter also wove in a history assertion, that pure religionism/ perennialism/ essentialism would assert that history would be leading to some predetermined inevitable culmination point.
this falls outside my thought-style/ concerns.
My prediction for the future is that inevitably we are guaranteed that everybody will adopt the Egodeath theory as the model of how the mind works, for stable control in the psilocybin state.
Define Your Damn Terms: Religionism
first my main quip against the idea of religionism is that these academic clowns don’t even know what their stupid word ‘religionism’ means, and it is used in 10 different ways and everyone just name-calls each other and nobody’s on the same page.
Hanegraaff fails to even define what he means by ‘religionism’, for all his heavy bandying-about of the term to employ it, never with coherent, intelligible definition of it.
Define your damn terms!!
His one definition that was clear that he finally wrote was about irrelevant use of the accusation “you are one of those evil people, religionists”, for the purpose of political smearing, attaching abstract labels to your enemy, having nothing to do with the theory of transcendent knowledge in itself, giving me the impression that none of this debate/fight over “religionism” has anything to do with Transcendent Knowledge.
I define ‘religionism’ as, the most useful definition of it is:
the mistake of making religious mythology analogy poetry the foundation for your thinking,
Instead, use multi-state cognitive science of religion, clearly articulated unambiguous models of how the mind transforms in the altered state from psilocybin.
This should be the foundation of our scholarship and thinking, not mystic poetry, confusing far analogies.
The latter thought-style is religionism – if that confusion-spawning, strife-generating word means anything and is of any use.
One of Hanegraaff’s definitions — in so far as he even bothers to articulate a definition, instead of merely throwing around the undefined term — is that religionism is against modern science progress, and wants to elevate tradition; backwards-looking instead, and saying that mystic poetry/ analogy is the way to truth, and that science and rationality progress is not the way to transcendent knowledge.
Egodeath Theory is the extreme example of do not give credence to the pre-modern theories and explanations, but do commandeer and take up their data of their mythology themes, and put the catalog of mytheme-analogies/ descriptor metaphors in a new, modern, scientific, clearly articulated model of how the mind works when exposed to a Psilocybin, emphasizing practical, clear communication and articulation, efficient-model construction, as best seen in Engineering: figure stuff out, clearly explain it, and then improve it and improve the explanation to be clearer and clearer and more and more useful, instead of reveling in incomprehension and vague ambiguous poetry like mystics do (to occlude the anti-ego truth).
This is really the essence of the STEM approach, is this thinking style, or explanatory style, more than conducting experiments, though yes of course experience and exploring cognitive phenomenology is the foundation, but especially:
The hallmark of engineering and science thinking is clear practical communication and useful arrangement of knowledge instead of stupid ambiguous vague poetry and confusion — and egoic evasion/ substitution/ avoidance of Transcendent Knowledge because of not wanting to admit the truth that kills ego fully dead: that you don’t control the source of your control thoughts.
Altered States and Intoxication in Ovid’s Metamorphoses (Jonas De Ruyck)
Incoming Ideas
Mandorlagate
11:06 pm jan 22 2023: reading a Ruck draft:
mandorla = {gateway} = {death-angel|dragon-guarded gate}; must be transformed; transformation from possibilism to eternalism, to pass through the gate. https://www.google.com/search?q=mandorla&tbm=isch
I am the gate. None enter the garden but through me.
Mystery Rock
I’m always trying to re-find this book or two.
Gnostic Visions: Uncovering the Greatest Secret of the Ancient World (Myers 2011)
I have ebook (good for search, awful for reading), lack printed/bound:
Groan, that old “punishable by death” canard that Ruck dramatically voices in his video DVD.
WHY do people LOVE to emphasize in dramatic voice, “punishable by death!!” ooh how exciting! titillating! its a SECRIT!!
That perspective is part of the problem, the blindness.
Ruck fails to spot entheogens other than his monoplant, which is Secret Amanita.
I couldn’t believe it when Ruck’s articles pointed out the red and white specks of paint in Mithras’ cape, while failing to say anything about the blue stemmed liberty cap in Mithras’ leg, or writing about Montecassino’s mushroom Eden tree on the left, without even mentioning the Mandrake tree with cut branches on the right.
There are two versions of Montec. scene, one looks more like Mandrake vs. palm.
People mistakenly think Ruck writes about Amanita.
Carl Ruck has never written anything about Amanita; you’re mistaking two different plants.
Ruck in fact writes about a different plant, Secret Amanita, e.g. Secret Amanita Alchemy.
Thanks to Ruck, instead of having 0 mushrooms inside the genuine Christian church, he generously reveals that there were two guys, at certain points — 2 or 3 times — in Christian history.
That’s as many as 6 instances, 6 times, someone infiltrated Real Christianity (which is, of course, non-drug) by the alien intrusion and innovation, of using Secret Amanita (aka The Mushroom) as if it were the Eucharist.
Ruck is operating from a hopelessly compromised, minimalist presupposition-set.
With a “moderate” entheogen theory of religion so feeble and stingy as Ruck’s Secret Amanita Alien Exception Intrusion premise, who needs to bother defining a “minimal” position?
Moderate, minimal, they are fluidly equivalent – compared to the Radical Maximal entheogen theory of religion.
It was great to see that Ruck’s recent discovery of the existence of Psilocybin mushrooms made it into the Oregon 109 Research Summary: History.
That Summary’s only allowance of Psilocybin in Western history is from, ironically, Ruck, who never writes the word Psilocybin.
Mark Hoffman’s 2015 article for Toxicology journal states someone oughta start trying to see if there was Psilocybin in Mystery Religions. Buy yourself a mirror, evil M. Hoffman, director of entheogen scholarship publications.
I heard Ruck say that word (Psilocybe/bin) in a YouTube video, dispelling my certainty that Ruck is unaware of the existence of any other mushroom than Secret Amanita.
Did I mention [excited hush] “punishable by death”?!
Egodeath Mystery Show episode 227 – Leary Designed Mystical Experience Questionnaire (Jan. 21, 2023)
58 minutes of complaining that Houot based entire dissertation on same unthinking unconscious assumption: NO MYSTIC EVER USED PSILOCYBIN MYSTICISM DIDN’T COME FROM PSILOCYBIN
The only authentic meditation is Psilocybin meditation.
The only authentic mysticism is Psilocybin mysticism.
The only authentic esotericism is Psilocybin esotericism.
Shutting out evil future me from taking a more hardline extreme position.
59:13 – Guitar (8:09 total; remainder of episode)
1:04:16 – Guitar: Mirror tail fadeout
1:05:04 – Guitar: Lost ending of track 3, rev
1:07:22 – End
Duration of ending guitar:
1:07:22 -59:13 = 8:09
Guitar
Artist: Illumination Valve Song: 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars, track 3 of 4, final 2.5 minutes, including the wished-for sweet sustained extra ending found! ☺️ 🎉 12:45-15:15. Song is named BLENDR1 on the deck.
Guitar: Two 8″ cabs, SM57’s 45 deg. Vocal mics picking up (room mics) large rear cabs (Eminence w/ Greenback & V30), HRDeluxe w/ G12P-80
CIIS = California Institute of Asian Studies (1974-1979)
1974: the California Institute of Asian Studies (CIAS)
1980: the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS)
“Incorporated as an independent, non-profit, non-sectarian graduate school named the California Institute of Asian Studies (CIAS) in 1974, and renamed the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS) in 1980.”
California Institute of Integral Studies started as California Institute of Asian Studies
Those Boomers are always trying to sneak their Buddha worship in, I can’t believe how long it took me to ask “What brand of religion is Ken Wilber covertly pushing?
Advaita Vedanta life-long idolizing of (non-drug) meditation, with an emphasize on the false narrative that meditation isn’t the illegitimate product of Psilocybin, denying that Meditation comes from Psilocybin and the archetypal authentic bona fide Meditation is Psilocybin.
All the praising-up Meditation as if it didn’t come from Psilocybin is false, and serves the purpose of substituting and defusing, PREVENTING EGO DEATH TRANSFORMATION, as an avoidance strategy.
Meditation is popular because everyone knows it doesn’t work and doesn’t threaten ego transformation.
The best way to avoid Satori is to meditate instead of Psilocybin actual authentic meditation, the real thing.
The Theory of Psychedelic Eternalism Provides a Scientific Basis for Mystic-State Experiencing, Superseding the “Mysticism, Meditation, & Psychotherapy” Framework
The Theory of Psychedelic Eternalism Provides a Scientific Basis for Mystic-State Experiencing, Superseding Mysticism, Meditation, & Psychoanalysis
Egodeath Theory Doubling Down on Psychedelic Eternalism – Commitment to Asserting the Particular Position
copied this section to start new page “The Theory of Psychedelic Eternalism Provides a Scientific Explanatory Basis for Mystic State Experiencing”
The psychedelic loose cognitive association binding experiential mode is the eternalism experiential mode.
Other people double down on psychedelic possibilism, or poorly formed psychedelic eternalism.
The Egodeath theory is well-formed, explicit, pointed, principled psychedelic eternalism.
Dogmatic anti-dogmatists are a walking massive self-contradiction: incoherence is their god, is what they are narrowly pushing.
Psychedelic Science vs. Psychedelic Vague Possibilism Mysticism vs. Psychedelic Eternalism
copied this section to start new page “The Theory of Psychedelic Eternalism Provides a Scientific Explanatory Basis for Mystic State Experiencing”
Popular psychedelic spirituality is vague and self-contradictory and unhelpful. They sell this as “open, nonjudgmental, and saying everyone is right”.
Judging that nonjudgmental is better than judgmental is the worlds most judgmental and self-contradictory and irresponsible position, a non-position position.
The biggest favor the Egodeath theory can do everyone is to be particular and specific and crystal clear.
The worst crime per the Egodeath theory is to be unclear, to waffle, to be vague.
Prevarication and doubletalk (like Wasson and everyone) is the worst.
If you say “everyone is right”, you’re incoherent, self-contradictory, and unhelpful. It’s you against you.
Everyone asserts hazy possibilism mysticism, or hazy eternalism mysticism. the Egodeath theory isn’t hazy possibilism mysticism.
The Egodeath theory isn’t hazy eternalism mysticism.
The Egodeath theory is specific Psychedelic Eternalism.
The Egodeath theory firmly, specifically, pointedly, and exclusively asserts psychedelic eternalism.
Junk Science vs. Junk Mysticism — and Then There’s the Egodeath Theory
copied this section to start new page “The Theory of Psychedelic Eternalism Provides a Scientific Explanatory Basis for Mystic State Experiencing”
Science & Spirituality Battle Between Xer Johnson and Boomer Griffith & Richards
Johnson Declared He’s Not Onboard with Worship of Meditation Religion
A clustr of about 5 articles perfect for me to cover in voice recordings and print them and markup and post about them and link to them.
I just need to copy entire articles then delete and highlight parts and comment. For now here are tiny selected portions.
Consciousness, Religion, and Gurus: Pitfalls of Psychedelic Medicine (Johnson 202x)
copied this section to start new page “The Theory of Psychedelic Eternalism Provides a Scientific Explanatory Basis for Mystic State Experiencing”
Moving Past Mysticism in Psychedelic Science (Sanders & Zijlmans, May 2021)
copied this section to start new page “The Theory of Psychedelic Eternalism Provides a Scientific Explanatory Basis for Mystic State Experiencing”
I can do a lot with this article, Sanders & Zijlmans make lots of great points that the Egodeath theory fulfills. They aren’t against mystical experience, they are against the Stace-based mystical model and lexicon.
Immediately before reading this article, I made voice-recording comments (Jan 14 2023).
My recorded comments and my contrast between the Egodeath theory vs. the popular predominant view matches the critique in this article.
Did Griffiths deliberately omit “control challenges” from CEQ?
Omitted:
OAV 1994 #54: I was afraid to lose my self-control.
HRS #: It was difficult to control my thoughts.
Consciousness Research = Grof + Wilber: Why the Non-Drug Meditation Salesman Is Paired with Psychedelic Psychoanalysis
Stan Grof & Ken Wilber –
How come the New Age bookstore puts Stan Grof in the Consciousness Research section?
How come the New Age bookstore puts Ken Wilber in the Consciousness Research section?
Wilber is a typical non-drug meditation-worshipper.
When Advaita non-drug (pseudo-)meditation doesn’t work, ever, it’s your fault, you’re not doing it right, or you just need to do more decades of meditation.
(Zen Master Brad has a special deal this month!)
It’s not that the product, non-drug meditation is bunk and a travesty abd inversion of the authentic gold standard reference measure of authoritative truth
Meditation, bow down to your source, origin, and and foundation, which is Psilocybin, producer of meditation, the authentic measure of what meditation is.
Real meditation is psilocybin meditation.
Uh oh I’m leaving slack and room for evil future me to be more bold and radical and consistent and uncompromising than me-now.
The only authentic meditation is psilocybin meditation. 😑 — Cybermonk
Take that, evil future me! try slipping through that gap to try to out-extreme me. Try again, luser
The only authentic meditation is psilocybin meditation.
Development of the Egodeath theory Is Largely Measured by the Standard of: Were you (in a posting; in theory assertion) As Extreme As Possible?
The Egodeath theory as a theory measures itself by:
did you succeed at being extreme? Leverage extremeness, simplicity, consistency, a simple position to define.
What would be an extremely simple position to describe and define and summarize? At an extreme confluence of points.
The Radical maximal entheogen theory of religion
Wish to Finish Transcription of Transcendent Knowledge Podcast Ep. 28 Basics of the Egodeath Core theory (1988-1997 outline)
Transcendent Knowledge Podcast 28: Basics of Egodeath Core theory
Wish to Finish Transcription of Transcendent Knowledge Podcast Ep. 28 Basics of the Egodeath Core theory (1988-1997 outline)
THE CYBERNETIC THEORY OF EGO TRANSCENDENCE
The Theory of Ego Transcendence
it’s a jan 1988 block universe theory, theory of:
block universe & worldlines
loose cognitive association binding
mental construct processing
mental world models
switching to a second mental world model in the loose cognitive association state [/binding, lcfb ] of mental construct processing.
loose mental construct binding
self-control cybernetics
metaperception
Check category phrases from the 1997 core theory specification outline summary announcement.
The Eternalism and Control Questionnaire (ECQ) combines eternalism and control because the Egodeath theory is APE/C: analogical psychedelic eternalism & noncontrol That’s not a flat list, but rather, it is a build-up sequence:
mythology describes psychedelics producing eternalism transforming control
The means or route or entryway is psychedelics; the destination, product, and resulting effect is eternalism and control transformation.
The ultimate, advanced, later, eventual domains that are highest-value and greatest-interest psychedelic effects are eternalism and control.
Most people are in the beginner level, of unity, and perceptual distortion.
The initial beginner phases are meta-perception, beginners’ unity consciousness, and loose cognitive binding as a novelty.
How many psychedelics-experienced people did Griffiths team give Psilocybin to, given that advanced people explore the negative-therefore-nonmystical region of Loosecog Eternalismland?
A Trip to Mythemeland 🦄 🤗 🌈
Mythemeland, I’m sure that William James 1902 and Walter Stace 1960 say:
You Gotta Keep ‘Em Separated: Positive Mystical vs. Negative Unmystical Psychedelic Effects
I have started to reject the sorting principle that all the questionnaires agree upon: that the strongest division among psychedelic effects, the very first grouping and sorting principle, is to divide positive vs. negative effects.
Is this really the best, most useful and representative categorization scheme?
APZ/ OAV/ 5D-ASC: Ocean Vision vs. Angst Dread
I have started to reject the 1985 Dittrich proposal that the strongest division among psychedelic effects, the very first grouping and sorting principle, is “Ocean Vision vs. Angst”.
11-Factors: Pleasant Experiences vs. Unpleasant Experiences
Studerus 2010’s 11-Factors q’air: Pleasant Experiences vs. Unpleasant Experiences
Mystical Experience Questionnaire (MEQ) vs. Challenging Experiences Questionnaire (CEQ)
todo: explain how when why from MEQ43 to MEQ30.
Did Griffiths move the 13 negative mystical effects into the “distractor” SOCQ items (53 of the 100 total) questions, into Hanegraaff’s Rejected wastebasket?
😱->🗑
🗑🐉💎🏆
Simply repress all the negative psychedelic effects. What could possibly go wrong – failure of transformation from possibilism to eternalism
Avoidance/Substitution of transformation from possibilism to eternalism
People pursue transformation from possibilism to eternalism in ways that are designed to prevent it.
People pursue ego transcendence in ways that are designed to prevent it.
Avoidance is done by substitution.
Reductionism or mis-interpreting. Category error. Genre error.
MEQ 🤜💥🤛 CEQ
MEQ vs. CEQ
Walter Pahnke’s 1962-1969 SOCQ/MEQ43/MEQ30 (MEQ) vs. Griffiths 2016’s CEQ. As if CEQ were even a real thing.
CEQ is only slightly less reality-based & Science-based than MEQ30.
The Science-based questionnaire papers (Griffiths, Studerus) say: “pleasant … therefore … mystical” “unpleasant … therefore … bad trip”
Heading
The CEQ-Gate Scandal
Psychedelic Psychometrics Science Skulduggery
Complete Newbie Mystic Experience
You had fuzzy unity consciousness? ego dissolution? inefffable? haven’t gone berserk yet?
You’ve had a Complete Mystic Experience according to our Stace-based scientific Psychology foundation.
Griffiths only administers to complete newbies and they have a Griffiths-formed, Complete Newbie Mystical Experience.
dragons are cute when they’re small
Egodeath Mystery Show ~226 – critique of the science of psychedelic psychometrics
In planning. 3-4 good hours of recording today. reading pages:
Newbie Psychedelic Science done in Secrecy, in a Closed Science way.
Voice Recordings About CEQ, OAV, 11-Factors Psychedelics Effects Questionnaires
4806.wav and before it, Jan 10 2023. Quiet cover, for coverage of critique of the science of psychedelic psychometrics. ~4804 1.5 hours, ready as-is
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eq3, 80Hz cut on deck, Limiter
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The CEQ is a giant red-flag generating machine.
Griffiths’ Challenging Effects Questionnaire (CEQ), picked up only 13 of 21 Dread items by accident during the initial “wide net” sweep of all questions.
Then Griffiths got rid of all of Dittrich’s Dread items except the 3 lamest items. Way to go, just throw into Hanegraaff’s Rejected wastebasket all of Dittrich’s standard negative Dread of Ego Dissolution (DED) effects of psychedelics
red-flag supernova
the unfathomable awfulness that’s the CEQ
dragon-attack level of awfulness
the dragons are flocking to the CEQ
the CEQ is maximally designed to attract dragons
this superhuman level of badness that is the CEQ – then there’s Studerus (11-Factors’ half-baked (if that) Unpleasant category, made by accident.
The Studerus newbies are all interested in the Pleasant subcategories.
who came up with the factor (category) “Impaired Control and Cognition” ill-conceived, is this the best that Science can do?
The badness of 11-Factors‘ Unpleasant low-level categories is a perfect fit with the ultra-badness that’s the CEQ. #54 gone missing –
The Sordid Pseudo Science Story of How the Most Important Challenging Psychedelic Effect Question Went Missing in the Hands of Studerus & Griffiths
How Dittrich’s famous & popular Dread category’s effects were Replaced(!) by Griffiths’ Grief category’s effects. All under the false cover narrative of “broadening Dread to include Grief”.
“broadening” means deleting and denying the existence of 18 out of 21 Dread effects, deleting and replacing that coverage by good ol familiar turf, ordinary-state based Grief counseling.
that’s bad, but that’s just the tip of the iceberg
CEQ is a cornucopia of badness that keeps pouring forth
Regarding Dread / Unpleasant effects, many aspects of Studerus 2010 and Carbonaro 2010 are dubious. Bad Science = Closed Science.
Positive effects = beginner effects.
Negative effects = advanced effects.
Closed Science and Newbie Psychedelics Psychometrics
THE SORDID PSEUDO SCIENCE STORY OF HOW THE MOST IMPORTANT CHALLENGING PSYCHEDELIC EFFECT QUESTION WENT MISSING IN THE HANDS OF STUDERUS & GRIFFITHS
Dread DED Rules 👑🏆🥇
Dittrich’s OAV categories invented in 1985. See their items in the 1993 conf. proceedings 1994 at my APZ page.
1994’s OAV q’air: Ocean Angst/Dread Vision.
Dread of Ego Dissolution (DED) dimension of OAV.
Anxious Ego Dissolution (AED).
Note the word ‘Anxious‘, inspired the Anxiety (ANX) low-level category within the Unpleasant high-level category in 11-Factors q’air.
We are only interested in positive therefore mystical effects (sounds like newbies).
We’re not interested in the non-mystical effects, which we moved from the mystical catgories Ocean & Vision and moved the effects into the negative therefore non-mystical category, Dread.
In the original OAV – of APZ, through 1993 (not the 1994 OAV q’air w/ “fixed”/”corrected emphasis” item sets): APZ’s inherent OAV category items per 1985:
Ocean only has 13 items. Dread has 22(!) items, questions about challenging psychedelics effects. Vision only has 14 items.
Dittrich 1985: What is it with this too-popular, high-activity negative Dread category (DED)?
4806.wav and before it , jan 10, are good content on CEQ and critic of Studerous. 11-Factors lame categories in Unpleasant. Phoning it in, weird categories, Studerus seems out of their element in the sensible negative categories.
11-Factors Secret high level categories are:
Pleasant = Newbie. Stuerus’ developmental level is here. This is Newbie Psychedelic Science, for newbies, by newbies, limited to BABY-LEVEL PSYCHEDELICS. NEWBIE-LEVEL PSYCHEDELIC PSYCHOMETRICS.
11-Factors did a poor job of advertising their Unpleasant high-levle category.
Studerus had poor placement of #54 in ANX, given that it fits into specific category well, Impaired Control and Cognition (ICC).
A psychedelic effects question item about anxiety that’s specific, not a general anxiety, goes in a specific category, not an OSC-based, “Anxiety” (ANX) typical professional Psychology construct.
Unpleasant = Advanced. Undeveloped by Studerus’ 11-Factor q’air. Ill-formed, careless. It has the goodness of Dittrich’s 21 Dread/Angst questions in the secret Unpleasant high-level category that not even Griffiths knows about.
All the goodness in Dread is coming from Dittrich, not Suderishd Studerus’ 11-Factors low-level negative categories.
Egodeath theory-based categories in which to place Dittrich’s Dread‘s 21 effects – started below.
What the 11-Factors psychedelic effects q’air contributes to OAV’s 21 Angst/Dread items, it doesn’t add much in the Unpleasant department re: low-level categories.
Yaldabaoth = CEQ
🦁🐍
Mutant malformed Yaldabaoth = CEQ
The Failed Closed Science of Newbie Psychedelic Psychometrics
f a i l
top 10 lessons learned from this travesty of science that discarded all psychedelic challenging effects in the CEQ, challenging effects questionnaire:
Down with Grief 👎 Up with Control 🏆
Control > Grief
CEQ = fishy = disaster , a giant REDUCTIONISM PROJECT bait and switch, good Grief, category
the Open Psychedelics Science db makes data, not q’airs available
The Theory of Psychedelic Eternalism
11:11 pm 2023-01-09
The Egodeath theory is the Theory of Psychedelic Eternalism.
I first used the phrase ‘Psychedelic Eternalism‘, in the Egodeath Yahoo Group, on June 29, 2016:
16. I had difficulty making even the smallest decision.
53. I had the feeling that I no longer had a will of my own.
54. I was afraid to lose my self-control.
33. I felt as though I were paralyzed.
Threatened
Hypercognition
45. I was not able to complete a thought, my thought repeatedly became disconnected.
62. Everything around me was happening so fast that I could no longer follow what was going on.
SORT
41. My body seemed to me numb, dead and weird.
24. I had difficulty in distinguishing important from unimportant things.
44. I felt isolated from everything and everyone.
12. I felt tormented.
19. I was afraid that the state I was in would last forever.
29. I was afraid without being able to say exactly why.
30. I experienced everything terrifyingly distorted.
38. I felt threatened.
32. I experienced my surroundings as strange and weird.
63. I had the feeling something horrible would happen.
59. Time passed tormentingly slow. (A, per S1)
36. I experienced an unbearable emptiness. (A, per S1)
3. I felt surrendered to dark powers. (A, per S1)
55. I stayed frozen in a very unnatural position for quite a long time. (A, per S1)
What are SENSIBLE categories to contain the 21 Dread psychedelic effects items questions?
Redo 11-Factors’ Unpleasant high-level catgory. How would a sane questionnaire design the facors instead of vague Anxiety and the confusing compound “Impaired Cognition and Control” – WHOSE IDEA WAS THIS CATEGORY LABEL?? 🤨
Why group “cognition” challenge effecs with “control” challenge effects?
Surely we can find a better more useful set of categories driven by Transcendent Knowledge not shot-in-the-dark newbies; a post- the Egodeath theory
How would a funnel hat wearer – a person shaped by Psilocybin – define the factor categories?
Make a category scheme informed by Transcendent Knowledge.
Walter Stace’s 1960 book Mysticism and Philosophy is our scientific foundation for the science of psychedelic psychometrics.
of our Stace-based model of mystic experiencing that we’ve baked in to our Science.
We’re using the latest stats software to build on a dubious and skewed foundation, a certain version of “mystic experiencing”, that the historian of mysticism Stang says doesn’t match the breadth of the historical archive.
What is and isn’t “Ineffabilism Mysticism” according to Griffiths??
Ineffabilism Mysticism is that which is compatible in Roland’s Mind with Secular Mindfulness Meditation with a Buddha statue in the Guidelines for Safety article.
Set and Setting: A Randomized Study of Different Musical Genres in Supporting Psychedelic Therapy Justin C. Strickland, Albert Garcia-Romeu, and Matthew “Lose the Buddha statue” Johnson ACS Pharmacology & Translational Science 2021, 4, 2, 472-478 (Letter) December 29, 2020 –
“the effects of the musical genre played during sessions of a psilocybin study for tobacco smoking cessation.
“Participants (N = 10) received psilocybin (20–30 mg/70 kg) in two sessions, each with a different musical genre (Western classical versus overtone-based), with the order counterbalanced. …
[an anti-scientific, malformed instrument. for all the cool popular negative effects, see OAV’s Dread scores, and he ye-malformed CEQ (vulnerable version) -cm]
“Mystical experiences scores tended to be higher in overtone-based sessions than in Western classical sessions. …
“smoking abstinence was similar based on musical choice, with a slight benefit for participants choosing the overtone-based playlist (66.7% versus 50%).
“These data call into question whether Western classical music typically used in psychedelic therapy holds a unique benefit.
Broadly, we call for experimentally examining session components toward optimizing psychedelic therapeutic protocols.”
The Professor
Dread Category Rocks
DREAD ROCKS
Psychedelic Psychometrics Science Questionnaires
Discuss your judgment on designing new categories.
Say the outline count tallies of categories & items. Write 8th grade narrative relating Study 1, Study 2, Initial Itm Pool, and final set of items.
How many effects items in each version of each questionnaire spec?
THE DREAD CATEGORY OF PSYCHEDELIC EFFECTS ROCKS
The Angst/Dread category of OAV or of 5D-ASC = The Unpleasant high-level category of 11-Factors.
To Matthew Johnson, to Add the ‘Control’ Category to the Challenging Experiences Questionnaire (CEQ)
Based entirely on the Egodeath theory, define a fresh set of effects questions/ items, and custom categories / factors.
The main psychedelics questionnaires:
SOCQ/MEQ
APZ/ OAV/ 5D-ASC/ 11-Factors
HRS
My Control category patch for the Challenging Experiences Questionnaire (CEQ): add the 8th factor/category of psychedelic effects items/ questions:
Control
5D-ASC 54. I was afraid to lose my self-control. 5D-ASC 6. I had the feeling of being connected to a superior power. 5D-ASC 5. I felt like a puppet or marionette. 5D-ASC 53. I had the feeling that I no longer had a will of my own. 5D-ASC 38. I felt threatened. SOCQ 28. Sense of being trapped and helpless. HRS #. It was difficult to control my thoughts.
I’m officially announcing – after talking it through in voice recordings today for the Egodeath Mystery Show:
Studerus was uncomprehending and in error when they wrongly put #54 in Anxiety category/ factor.
The question is about specific fear of a specific thing (control loss) and therefore the question goes in the specific category/ factor Impaired Control and Cognition, not in the vague, generic Anxiety category/factor like they do in Figure S1 & S2 before they move it to become direct member of Unpleasant.
Studerus needs to redefine & comprehend ICC, and make item #54 the pillar, the main item that defines the ICC category.
#54: “I was afraid to lose my self-control.”
This will make the cross-loading problem go away.
The problem isn’t the ICC category or item #54; make better negative categories besides ICC.
MAKE IT WORK and accomplish the relevant functioning.
The Core Theory Is Based Around Ergot; the Mytheme Theory Is Based Around Psilocybin
The Core theory in the Egodeath theory Is Based Around Ergot; the Mytheme theory in the Egodeath theory is Based Around Psilocybin
“The dissociative cognitive state enables deep-level symbolic re-indexing of mental constructs.
“There are multiple triggers for the dissociative cognitive state, including psychedelics, meditation, schizophrenia, sensory deprivation, hyperventilation, temporal-lobe epilepsy, UFO abduction, and near-death experiences.
“The most powerful trigger for long sessions of cognitive dissociation is lysergic acid, a key technology.
“Psychoactive substances should be of great interest to theorists in many fields.”
I failed to list “psilocybin” or ‘mushroom’ in the article, but at least I didn’t fall into the trap of saying just ‘mushrooms’ or ‘psychoactive mushrooms’ and being misread as saying “Amanita”.
“The main origin and ongoing wellspring of religion is the use of visionary plants. These plants include Psilocybe mushrooms, Henbane, Cannabis, Opium, Peyote, Salvia divinorum, and Amanita mushrooms.”
Notice how I separate P vs A! I put P first, A last! 😊 No Plaincourault, No Allegro!
No mention of poor hypothetical ergot kykeon Eleusis 😭
The 2006 article body (not Biblio) mentions Amanita 1x, Psilocybin 5x, no ergot mention.
Confirmed, 2006 article = The Entheogen Mytheme theory; my Phase 2 of the Egodeath theory development, and is based around Psilocybin, not Ergot based. For Salvia magazine.
Coined “Psychedelic Eternalism” in 2016
The first time I wrote the phrase “Psychedelic Eternalism” was June 29, 2016:
“My father gave me early Wilber, and Watts, encounter groups, holotropic breathwork, and gave me a brain dump of the latest 1980-1986 Humanistic Psychology, Holistic Health, and Transpersonal Psychology while mountain hiking all over California with Mendocino shake, motorcycle, and convertible sports car.
Creating the Egodeath theory began with reading Wilber and Watts, ending up using a variant of Watts as an alternative to Wilber; 1988: {Psychedelic Eternalism}, vs. {nondual unity oneness}.”
next post adds suffix “noncontrol”:
Creating the Egodeath theory began with reading Wilber and Watts, ending up using a variant of Watts as an alternative to Wilber; 1988: {Psychedelic Eternalism noncontrol}, vs. {nondual unity oneness through drug-free meditation}.”
Posting 8014 contrasts:
{Psychedelic Eternalism}
{nondual unity oneness}
Posting 8015 contrasts:
{Psychedelic Eternalism noncontrol}
{nondual unity oneness through drug-free meditation}.
In today’s Jan 8 2023 voice recordings for Egodeath Mystery Show, I argue that for zoom-out supersummary concept-label purposes, I need pithy characterization of the Egodeath theory 10x per hour, 9 syllables “psychedelic eternalism”.
For ultra summary purposes, minimal syllables, “psychedelic eternalism” actually IS adequate! I will MAKE ‘eternalism’ mean the right thing, when combined with “psychedelic”.
Ligare (liˈɡaɾe) Latin: to join, or link; classically understood as the linking of human and divine.
“We are
clergy,
chaplains,
religious educators,
scholars,
spiritual guides,
philanthropists, and
researchers
dedicated to bringing the direct experience of the sacred to all who desire it through ritualized engagement with psychedelic substances within the context of the Christian contemplative tradition.”
“[Rabbi] Kamenetz began to question the objectivity of the research protocols in the Hopkins study — everything from the music played during the sessions to the questionnaires designed to measure and quantify something as slippery as a mystical experience.
“Psychedelics have the power to put people into vulnerable states of suggestibility.
“Kamenetz began to ask himself “whose experience am I having?” Was it his own mystical experience, or a type of revelation favored by the designers of the project, including the veteran psychedelic therapist Bill Richards.
“I have grave concerns for the spiritual and cultural health and wellbeing of my community,” Kamenetz said.
“What are the cultural assumptions that Bill or the team make about the meaning of my experience?…They were coming from a particular religious background — the perennial philosophy, that ‘it’s all the same at its core.’”
[perennial phil. as conceived by people who don’t understand the core of the perennial philosophy, psychedelic eternalism -cm]
“Those concerns led Kamenetz to found Shefa [i posted about this recently], a Jewish psychedelic support group, and organize a Jewish Psychedelic Summit in the spring of 2021.
“His organization continues to hold events around Jewish holidays and run integration circles where Jews come together to discuss their experiences on various psychoactive compounds and sacred plant medicines.”
[The Egodeath theory perspective vs. the Griffithism brand of religion – conflicting conceptions of meditation and mysticism]
“To Rabbi Kamenetz, this amorphous theology expressed by many in psychedelic circles “does violence to the diversity of religious lineages and traditions.”
All authentic mystic-state religion is psychedelic eternalism. – the Egodeath theory.
“Right now there is a culture of very active and very enthusiastic psychedelic Jews who are starting to wake up to the problem of cultural appropriation,” said Kamenetz.”
How is Griffiths’ made-up brand of Boomer psilocybin-diminishing meditation-mysticism “cultural appropriation” of Jewish religion?
That’s a stretch that appropriates the idea of cultural appropriation, misusing the label. It’s a stretch to reject Perennialism as “cultural appropriation”.
“[Sam] Shonkoff has studied the late 20th century neo-Hasidic movement. He, too, has concerns about the preconceptions of some of the researchers at Johns Hopkins.”
“For me, the whole idea that what these substances do is catalyze spiritual experiences is a culturally specific understanding of what these things are. It’s rooted in a Protestant understanding of religion.”
More like a New Age Boomer, Meditation-idolizing, 1960 Mysticism-based Ineffabilism.
“Whatever they are doing at the Hopkins lab is clearly working for a lot of people …
“Where we get into trouble is where we fail to recognize that what they are doing is a tradition itself. It has its own history, its own places of reverence, and its own selection bias.”
“Griffiths, the principal investigator in the Johns Hopkins study of religious professionals, was troubled by the allegation that his team was subtly leading its subjects into an amorphous New Age spirituality.“
Can fake, imitation Psilocybin – enlightenment in a pill – measure up to our god, Meditation, the measure and foundation of everything authentic?
How far short does Psilocybin fall from the authentic real deal, Meditation?
The insolent audacity, to assume Meditation is the standard by which Psilocybin is to be judged. The relation is the reverse.
I continue to smell / glean Matthew Johnson has declared “I’m out”, leaving Griffiths – his goodbye letter to Griffithianism, to that secular scientific religionism brand of spirituality:
“Most of our research on psychedelics and the primary mystical experience have been completely secularized“
“We are not introducing specific religious beliefs. We generally assess mystical experiences in a single questionnaire [MEQ] among many other questionnaires.”
Charles Stang, historian of mysticism, says to Griffiths the un-mystical Mystical Experience Questionnaire (MEQ) doesn’t match the mystics’ historical archive of reports.
“We are evaluating as best we can the impact on how people think of their own religious traditions, how they think about their own ministry.
“I do not believe that the study design is biased about outcome.”
To pass the MEQ to get your experience designated as “a complete mystic experience” you must give the correct answers to 1/4 of the questions, about “Was your experience Ineffability?”
Per the Egodeath theory, which is analogical psychedelic eternalism, a complete mystic experience is transformation to learn to depend on eternalism-thinking, dependent control, dealing with your future control thoughts pre-existing.
For example, that would be, like in Eadwine’s image, redosing two bowls of Cubensis 10 weeks.
“I would be disappointed if some believe that there was a bias toward any religious tradition in the study. I don’t think it’s there.
“We tried to have symbols appropriate to all religious traditions.
“We weren’t favoring Buddhism.“
Though we talk 24×7 day & night about the grandeur of the Grand Source of Truth, which is Meditation, all glory to Meditation!
“There were symbols related to most major faith traditions in the session room.
“We were not focusing on a single religious tradition.”
“They hope to publish a paper later this year [2022 – didn’t happen], or in 2023.
“I’m interested in secularized spirituality,” Griffiths said.
…
same article, con’t
“the current project, which was conducted by researchers at both Johns Hopkins and NYU Langone Health and formerly titled “The Effects of Psilocybin-Facilitated Experience on the Psychology and Effectiveness of Religious Professionals.” Twelve research subjects were recruited by Hopkins, and another twelve at NYU.
“We hypothesize that religious professionals, given their interests, training, and life experience, will be able to make nuanced discriminations of their psilocybin experiences,” the NYU study summary states.
“A primary objective is to investigate changes in psychological functioning, spirituality, health, well-being, prosocial attitudes and behavior in professional religious leaders that may occur after receiving psilocybin under supportive conditions.”
The study began in 2015. It took the organizers longer than expected to recruit volunteers, conduct the trials and write up their conclusions. They currently hope to publish their findings this fall [eg December 2022].
Roland Griffiths insists that there has never been any theological or political agenda behind the research at Johns Hopkins.
“Although this is not about changing culture, it has implications for cultural change, but we were not trying to turn people into evangelical psychedelic proponents.”
Top 10 Self-Defeating, Dead-End Narratives that Must Be Overthrown
Critique of the Set of Narratives, Ritual Recitation of the Stock, Noxious, Self-Defeating Narratives that Must Be Overthrown
The Big Bad Catholic Church Got Rid of All Mushrooms
And I’ve gathered 350 images from inside the Middle Ages church to prove it.
The traditional non-drug methods of the mystics
How do you magically “know” people didn’t use psilocybin to have their mystic experience?
Let me guess: the same way that the “historian” Thomas Hatsis knows that if we interpret mushroom imagery as mushrooms, we are definitely committing the error of culturecide. Beg the question much?
Why do people take their ignorance-based, baseless assumptions as if solid bedrock of fact, given by God to them?
Can Psilocybin Measure Up to Meditation/ Mysticism?
Can fake imitation Psilocybin artificially simulate and somewhat measure up to the ideal authoritative gold reference standard, which is non-drug mindfulness meditation?
Mystery Religion = Ergot Kykeon at Eleusis
ergot kykeon eleusis = ignore sacred meals,
ignore mystery religions,
ignore symposium drinking parties.
Secret Amanita Cult
Secret Amanita Alchemy Cult = ignore psilocybin, ignore branching-message mushroom trees, ignore explicit psilocybin in art in Christendom.
Always multiply focus on Amanita/ Plaincourault / Allegro by 100x more, never look at any other art or psychoactive mushroom type.
Psychedelics are enlightenment in a pill, a shortcut vs. the authentic normal way
That quote is a great example of wrongly thinking “Look how progressive I am”, when you’re actually being short-sighted and self-defeating.
Psychedelics are not a “shortcut” abnormal way, as opposed to the infinitely long normal way; rather, psychedelics are the one and only way that mystics have always used.
There is no getting to Nirvana except through psychedelics.
The alleged “slow, normal” ways are actually nothing but ways of avoiding ever cancelling egoic thinking.
A mystic is either an actual mystic using psychedelics and attaining transformation (from naive possibilism-thinking to eternalism-thinking), or, is a fake mystic avoiding psychedelics and avoiding ego cancellation, avoiding Atman while pretending to seek Atman.
“Psilocybin Is a Substitute for the Eucharist”
“psychedelically induced mystical experiences will be offered to congregants who wish to have the experience. Not as a substitute for Holy Communion, but at church retreats overseen by trained guides.”
Psilocybin IS the holy communion, the Eucharist.
It’s nonsense to say Psilocybin is like, or imitates, or tries to measure up to the non-psychedelic sacred meal.
A non-psychedelic sacred meal is a travesty, a fraud, an oxymoron, ersatz, a lie.
When I advised Oregon Psilocybin board, communicating with them, this was a turning point because I failed to connect the goal, the treasure, the appeal, the completion – with the threat and appeasing the threat.
Always put the dragon threat in the context of the treasure pursued.
The experience of the threat of loss of control isn’t isolated; it is packaged together with pursuing Transcendent Knowledge treasure.
treasure pursuit: “Finally found a way of thinking” – Bob Daisley, album Diary of a Madman.
44:00 – Griffiths or Peterson compares the bad trip to the dragon: “faced the dragon, faced the greatest terror“
45:43 Peterson – “What they learn is that they can withstand the fear [after they sacrifice -cm], that’s what generalizes. …
“You’re not counter-conditioning the fear, what you’re doing is showing the person that there’s more to them than they thought.
“There isn’t anything more salutary than that.
[46:08]
“That’s specifically why you’re encouraged in mythological stories to confront the dragon and get the gold, that’s the basic story
“and it’s very interesting how that becomes portrayed in a psychedelic experience.“
No, that’s backwards. The {dragon threat when getting the treasure} comes FROM psychedelics.
Griffiths 57:40 – “we have developed a mystical questionnaire that’s very good”
No, the MEQ sucks, bad.
The Mystical Experience Questionnaire (MEQ) disowns negative experiences, which are caught by the mockup half-baked CEQ, which removes all specific effects of control transformation, replacing them by ordinary-state conceived “Grief” instead.
sense of unity; interconnectedness of all people and all things, introvertively or extravertively, the literature on mystical experiences outside of drugs [how do you know??] …
sense of sacredness or reverence, precious about it.
the Noetic sense that it’s true, more real than everyday waking consciousness.
Subfactors:
positive mood,
transcendence of time and space, and
ineffability. I ask them ‘tell me about your experience.’
[a prompting framing question, what a surprise that they give the answer they are prompted and set up to give:].
“They say ‘I can’t even put this into words’ – that’s one of the 6 criteria of a mystic experience.”
Ask a newbie to describe their high-dose Psilocybin experience, they say “that’s hard”, therefore, we should label this as “MYSTICAL INEFFABILITY”, referencing heavy-handed scholarly theology of Christian mysticism tradition.
Here we get Roland Griffiths’ boomer personal invented conception of mystic experience and glorified Meditation and Stace’s 1960 Ineffabilism mysticism.
Griffiths is telling falsehoods here about the nature of mystic experiencing. This misconception is baked into the so-called “scientific” basis of Hopkins’ Psychedelic Science.
1:02:00 RG: “You’re rewriting the underlying operating system.”
2:01:30 RG: “meditation … none of them [advanced meditators in our current psilocybin research] would say that psychedelics are a substitute for what the meditation practice is, because meditation results in the stability of awareness, that psychedelics certainly do not.”
“so then the next step was religious professionals and we are uh collecting the last data on that.
“it was a study that was run jointly at Hopkins and NYU. [todo: article URL]
search Hopkins Griffiths NYU meditation
search Hopkins Griffiths NYU meditate
search Hopkins Griffiths NYU meditator
“and we’ve made a pact in the study team not to talk about any results until we’re ready to uh publish but but i can tell you i can give you a broad brush stroke of what we’re thinking there uh of course and and hoping perhaps maybe because we we
“maybe we can close this off with a little bit of discussion about you know the potential impact of this
“i mean i’m very interested for example in the decline of religious belief across the west and there’s a there’s a necessity for revitalization and
and well back to back to the religious leaders
yeah so that’s the question what so among people who have made career commitments to uh to ministry and and and to supporting people’s spiritual growth
“what what happens with them with a with a psychedelic experience and and how does that fit with their ministry uh their engagement in that and uh and their belief –
“do you plan to do long-term efficacy studies like i’d be really curious if your your psychedelic enhanced ministers let’s say were then more credible proponents for their community and their congregations were disproportionately for example or perhaps not likely to grow
“we probably don’t have the power to uh address that question.
“we’ll certainly follow these people up and the initial study we have follow up to uh 12 months and and uh and
“we’re doing a lot of qualitative uh work on this
um i think i think
what i can say without without saying anything specific about the data is uh uh that
the results are not inconsistent with that that we have seen in healthy volunteers and beginning meditators and long-term meditators uh that that is there’s something astonishing about these experiences
“and i’ll i’ll have to uh leave it at that but but i think
“the implications are are are important
“i mean so the question is yeah
“how does this interact with faith traditions?
“that’s going to be an interesting story to tell and and to have unfold.
“but i don’t think i can say anything further about it.”
JP: “yeah well yeah fair enough fair enough
um i guess i’m i’m sorry i can backing off the study per se i mean you know”
2:04:00 Griffiths confirms my claim that he’s making a religion out of Ineffability in particular.
Article “Transcending and Transforming Psychedelics
Add this to my posting that links to the article. Or page about Griffiths getting hard pushback from Stang & Peterson.
“In the first event of the series, Charles M. Stang, CSWR Director and Professor of Early Christian Thought, hosted Dr. Roland Griffiths of John Hopkins University, perhaps the leading researcher into the healing possibilities of psilocybin.
“Stang pushed Griffiths on how his studies seem to sanitize mystical experiences by defining them as profoundly moving encounters with a loving, transcendent source, and sidelining harrowing experiences of the divine as abysmal, dark, and even terrifying.
“Stang remarks: “This is where the history of religion is important, because it is shot through with the full archive of experiences. Religions know how to deal with harrowing experiences of God as an abyss because, guess what, people regularly have experiences of God as an abyss. And communities have to hold that, have to help people work with those experiences.”
And no, the bunk and half-assed, half-baked CEQ does not cover these actual altered state experiences, but replaces them by ordinary-state “Grief”, a reductionism, a category error.
Griffithsism, Reduction of Altered State to Social Domain, Ineffabilism Mysticism, New Age Meditationism – Hallmarks of Boomerism
Defining ‘Boomerism’ as a Noxious Dead-End Set of Narratives
I need to develop what “Boomerism” means to me or could mean.
(Bracket aside objections about generation-premised criticisms.)
Boomerism: Weakly informed by Psychedelics; thoroughly compromised to insult Psychedelics, constantly damning psychedelics with self-defeating faint praise.
The Boomer paradigm of comparing psychedelics to their precious god meditation is based on Boomers’ ludicrous levels of self-certainty about their god, which is non-drug meditation.
If anyone pays any attention to mysticism, it’s taken as a law of the universe given directly from God to you that of course no mystic ever used Psilocybin; the idea is literally unthinkable, except to Dan Merkur, but even Merkur’s thinking is limited and self-limiting here.
Machine transcription of JP/RG interview:
“there’s something about these experiences that speak tothe ineffable uh and uh and and this whole project of organizing community [‘community’ is a giveaway tip-off word- beware of reductionism of the altered state to the ordinary-state social domain] around um around investigation and cultivation of [mushrooms?] of the um fruits [fruiting bodies] of those kinds of experiences and
“i think that’s hugely consequential so
“one of the one of the features of the you know that i’ve already discussed of the primary mystical experience [as Griffithsism is defined above: ineffability, positive mood, unity, sense of truth]
is this sense of the interconnectedness of all people [red flag: reductionism to the social realm] and it’s sacred and it’s true and and and from that arises this sense of a pro-social [the main, popular bad move: reductionism of ASC to the ordinary-state social realm] sense of altruism
a sense that we’re all in this together[reductionism to social]
“well if that isn’t the golden rule [social reduc’m] and if that doesn’t you know speak to the nature of you know most ethical and moral[social reduc’m] traditions.
JP: “okay so i want to unpack that for a minute because it’s so surprising like you can go over that quickly and it doesn’t sound surprising it’s
“so the drugs are producing an expansion of human experience that’s meaningful and positive”
…
2:07:55: “hard to see how all that couldn’t be of significance to religious communities
“and then the question is well what should be what do you talk how do you talk to religious people about this especially if they’re more on the conservative end of things because a less conservative hypothesis could hardly be imagined
“right it’s the psychedelic origin of the deep judeo-christian ethic
“that’s that’s a radical idea and it it brings up this question well we lost this technology essentially something like 2 000 years ago in the west except in underground places“
False. The Middle Ages has explicit psilocybin branching-message mushroom trees or other psilocybin (and Amanita) imagery in mainstream cathedrals, chapels, and illuminated manuscripts.
“do we reincorporate it?
“how do we reincorporate it?“
“and what does that mean on the religious front, like the conservative religious front with regards to say practice”
2:08:41 “well but again i would say it doesn’t have to be psychedelics. [<– UNSCIENTIFIC BULLSHIITE]
PIGS DON’T HAVE TO BE NON-FLYING
“we’re gonna we’re gonna learn more about the nature of these experiences and who knows i mean there may be a way [don’t forget “can”, “might”, and “could”] to do this with uh you know electro uh cranial stimulation you know or or you know other kinds of manipulations.”
JP: “I’m going to object to that just for a second well and i have a specific reason you know because i i think that’s uh uh a careful argument and an appropriate one but i don’t think your data support it
[compare Charles Stang’s quote to RG that the mystics writings archive of experiences doesn’t support RG’s positive-only misconception of “mysticism”]
“because you just told me that even the experienced meditators for them it’s a qualitative transformation
“and so you think i’m and so you
“you’ve already got a population [experienced meditators] that have been using disciplined technology, right, and good and good for them, you know
“Eliade believed that the shamanic transformation in its pure form wasn’t drug-mediated
“but i think it looks to me like,
“i have great respect for Eliade
“i learned a tremendous amount from him i think i don’t think the evidence supports that claim“
“i think the psychedelics are doing something that is in addition to what discipline practice
“i mean who knows what happens if you practice for 35 years let’s say and that’s all you do
“but but i’m
“it isn’t obvious to me that this can be duplicated on the non-chemical front
“oh let’s see , i i don’t disagree agree with you i mean
“this is the most powerful intervention we have
“for uh for creating at high probability these kinds of ex experiences we don’t nothing comes close to it
“well there’s an intensity issue too
“right it’s not just probability but also intensity
“yeah no absolutely but that doesn’t mean that we’re not going to refine this further and that there might not be another way to do it
“right it also doesn’t mean that disciplined practice is not advisable and that caution isn’t the appropriate byword
Other Methods Can/ Could/ Might/ May Produce Exact Same Effects as Psilocybin
con’t from above:
“yeah yeah but there you know there could be other physiological interventions you know that aren’t aren’t psychedelic uh drugs aren’t you know serotonin 2a uh agonists so all i’m all i’m scoping out is that this is going to continue to unfold uh scientifically
“just but to to get back to the the implications so so these experiences are…”
Video: Parallels of long-term meditation and psilocybin use | Roland Griffiths
Griffiths is an absolutely dedicated advocate and cheerleader of meditation. Non-drug meditation is Griffiths’ god, his standard of truth.
It is simply a given for Griffiths that non-drug meditation is the gold standard of reference.
He also takes a conventional narrative-driven view on non-drug mysticism.
Mysticism and meditation are Griffiths’ New Age religion, and after this Dec 2016 vid, 4 years later, his partner Matthew Johnson said this brand of spirituality has gone unchecked too long, and Johnson repudiated his partner’s brand of spirituality, in the Dec. 2020 article Consciousness, Religion, and Gurus: Pitfalls of Psychedelic Medicine, against the new religion of Griffithsism.
The religion of Griffithism is hardly “psychedelic spirituality”, given the way Griffiths in inverted fashion makes his notion and assumption-set about non-drug mysticism and non-drug meditation his false standard by which to “justify” and “praise” Psilocybin in a way that’s an insult to Psilocybin.
Griffiths diminishes Psilocybin while acting as if he’s elevating it almost up to the lofty standard set by his fantasized non-drug mysticism and non-drug meditation as if those had any authenticity — as if Psilocybin weren’t the source and the measure of authenticity by which non-drug mysticism and non-drug meditation should be found to be fake and fraudulent, usurpers of the throne that rightfully is Psilocybin’s.
When Griffiths praises or defends Psilocybin, he attempts to make Meditation the foundation for authenticity of Psilocybin – getting their relationship upside down.
Meditation’s respectability comes from its derivation from Psilocybin.
1:50 “We think of meditation as the tried and true path of exploration of the nature of the mind, it’s this methodology that’s been developed over thousands of years to turn the attention inwards and watch one’s own mental processes”
– as if meditation didn’t come from psilocybin. Fake meditation is non-drug.
Authentic meditation, the gold standard reference that’s definitive of what authentic meditation is, is psilocybin-based meditation, that recognizes that the origin of meditation is psilocybin.
Machine transcription:
“A lot of it is mindfulness.
“We have overrepresentation from Buddhist traditions and vipassana could be one of those traditions.
“And so during that study, people come into our session room.
“We have them do series of meditations throughout the day.
“And when they get psilocybin, so we’re very interested in how the phenomenology of those experiences change.
“We’re comparing it to placebo.
“We’re looking at pre and post neuroimaging to see…looking for brain changes, and preliminarily, we’re seeing day-after changes which is exciting and gets to this whole issue of neuroplasticity.
“And we also have a condition in which we actually administer psilocybin to people in the scanner.
“So we’re looking at meditation when people are on, in this case, a pretty low dose of psilocybin.
“And our interest there in meditation is that we think of meditation as kind of the tried-and-true path for exploration of the nature of mind.
“I mean, that’s really what it is, is that this is methodology that’s been developed over thousands of years to turn the attention inward and watch one’s own mental processes and become familiar with the way mind works, how it’s constructed, and then through that process, very often, people… I hesitate to say gain control, but in effect, they can change the repertoire with which the brain is activated.
“They can watch thoughts come up.
“They can release thoughts in a way that someone who’s unpracticed with meditation is much…”
“So it’s an investigation of the nature of mind.”
[“mind”: Griffiths’ research partner Matthew Johnson wrote against that word usage, Johnson declared a breakaway from Griffiths’ spirituality:] Consciousness, Religion, and Gurus: Pitfalls of Psychedelic Medicine Matthew Johnson Dec. 2020 (when I was finishing the main part of decoding the Eadwine image) The “Parallels” video is Dec 2016 – 4 years later, Johnson wrote against Giffiths’ spirituality. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33860187/ ACS Pharmacol Transl Sci. 2020 Dec 16; 4(2):578-581.
“And similarly, I’ve come to think of psilocybin as also [only if combined with meditation] a convergent methodology for investigation of the nature of mind.
“It’s the meditation on steroids, if you will because there’s such abrupt shift of the nature of consciousness that it wakes people up to the extent to which kind of their normative cognitive processes or the normative way they hold reality is just one way of holding reality.
“And so there can be something shockingly interesting about that.
“However, psilocybin is not a substitution for meditation because it doesn’t lead to any stability of the awareness state.”
MEDITATION IS NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR PSILOCYBIN
“So we would say that meditation is kind of the tried-and-true way of stabilizing the nature of awareness and coming to understand mind, and psilocybin might be the crash course in that.”
The Mythic Version of Allegro’s Book The Sacred Mushroom & The Cross
It’s popular as a symbol.
This book serves as a popular symbol.
Hatsis on this, the pop reception of what he thinks of as The Secret Amanita Cult Theory.
I too am against Secret Amanita.
The center of the focus in the field has moved from Amanita to Psilocybin.
Amanita is the billboard for Psilocybin, it even has a symbol for Psilocybin:
The Emoji Symbol for Psilocybin: 🍄
Cyberdisciple commentary pages about what Allegro’s book 😇 🍄 ✝️ is really about vs. what people treat it as, a mythic purpose it serves, not actually met by the contents.
Many people have read this book, and many possess this book.
Given its content, not very appealing, 📓😴 but the pop idea of this book is enticing and popular.
As usual, it’s better to project onto a book what you optimistically wish it to say.
The actual content will just disappoint, so avoid.
Better to productively project onto the book what you want it to say.
The Official Mythic Tale Ritual Recital for Mythmaking of “What Went Wrong in Psychedelics Research Because of Pop Sike Cult” – the Whole Thing is Fake & Staged
Video of Zach Leary, who objects to the whole “Tim’s Fault” fake official narrative. youtube.
Psychedelics Today channel. late 2022/recent
This video doesn’t go into that, just mentions this general idea that the story that’s thrown around is more a mythic history than real history.
Maybe Zach says covered it or will cover the topic of Tim’s history.
“Exploring the initial stages of psychedelic study in Europe and America, Thomas Hatsis details the experimentation of different groups–from research labs to the military to bohemian art circles–who were seeking how best to utilize LSD and other promising psychedelics like mescaline.
“Foreword by Martin Lee.
“Explores the different groups–from research labs to the military–who were seeking how best to utilize LSD and other promising psychedelics like mescaline
“Reintroduces forgotten scientists like Robert Hyde and Rosalind Heywood
“Looks at the CIA’s notorious top-secret mind-control program MKUltra
“Reveals how intellectuals, philosophers, artists, and mystics of the 1950s used LSD to bring ancient rites into the modern age
“Exploring the initial stages of psychedelic study in Europe and America, Thomas Hatsis offers a full history of the psychedelic-fueled revolution in healing and consciousness expansion that blossomed in the 1950s–the first “golden age” of psychedelic research.
“Revealing LSD as a “wonder child” rather than Albert Hofmann’s infamous “problem child,” the author focuses on the extensive studies with LSD that took place in the ’50s.
“He explores the different groups–from research labs to the military to bohemian art circles–who were seeking how best to utilize LSD and other promising psychedelics like mescaline.
“Sharing the details of many primary source medical reports, the author examines how doctors saw LSD as a tool to gain access to the minds of schizophrenics and thus better understand the causes of mental illness.
“The author also looks at how the CIA believed LSD could be turned into a powerful mind-control weapon, including a full account of the notorious top-secret program MKUltra.
“Reintroducing forgotten scientists like Robert Hyde, the first American to take LSD,
“and parapsychologist Rosalind Heywood, who believed LSD and mescaline opened doors to mystical and psychic abilities,
“the author also discusses how the influences of Central American mushroom ceremonies and peyote rites crossbred with experimental Western mysticism during the 1950s, turning LSD from a possible madness mimicker or mind weapon into a sacramental medicine.
“Finally, he explores how philosophers, parapsychologists, and mystics sought to use LSD to usher in a new age of human awareness.”
Psychedelics in psychiatry—Keeping the renaissance from going off the rails
Yaden DB, Yaden ME, Griffiths RR. Psychedelics in psychiatry—Keeping the renaissance from going off the rails. JAMA Psychiatry. 2021.” https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33263720/
“This new period of psychedelic research, ongoing since at least 2006, has now lasted for about the same length of time as psychedelic research in the 1950s and 1960s did before it ground to a halt.
“the field may be facing a fork in the road to clinical applications.
“One path forward allows for the same kinds of exuberance, utopian thinking, and uneven clinical approaches that contributed to ending the previous period of research.
“Combined with the contemporary tendency to politicize science, the possibility of a repeat of the 1960s represents a significant concern.
“Another path forward, a more careful and systematic one, involves the appropriate integration of psychedelic treatments into existing evidence-based psychiatric paradigms such as psychotherapy and pharmacotherapy.”
ehh, you might want to check your examples of “evidence-based” 🤨
“how the psychedelic research renaissance can stay on the path that leads to the integration of these medications into the standard of care rather than recapitulating the ethical and sociopolitical problems that led to the previous period of research going off the rails.”
“Psilocybin is a psychedelic compound in certain mushrooms, which have been used in sacred ceremonies … for centuries. “
“cultural forces such as those that occurred in the 1960s may threaten contemporary research progress and the clinical application of psychedelics.
“For example, numerous recent popular press books, websites, podcasts, and media reports have uncritically promoted presumed benefits of psychedelics.”
For example, Egodeath.com asserts that psychedelics cause the experience of the threat of catastrophic loss of control, which drives transformation to Transcendent Knowledge, supplementing possibilism-thinking by eternalism-thinking.
“the possibility that expectations are outpacing the current data on what outcomes can be confidently foreseen.
“Psychedelics are neither a cure for mental disorders nor a quick fix for an unfulfilled life and should not be portrayed as a panacea.
“Ominously, propsychedelic subcultures are increasingly fostering utopian visions for society based on research findings that, while intriguing, still must be considered preliminary.”
“If psychedelic research is going to avoid another period of prohibition, we must learn from the lessons of the past. It is critically important that the medical and scientific communities be vigilant in opposing the conflation of science with larger cultural agendas, as occurred in the 1960s with the blending of psychedelics into the antiwar and other anti-establishment movements.”
🍄Beware especially of the Ardent 🍄 Advocates, who see mushrooms🍄everywhere:
“The enthusiasms that attend such agendas should not be allowed to supersede the scientific and regulatory processes meant to carefully vet these substances and their application in a variety of mood and behavioral disorders.”
We should return to the regulatory processes that we had from 1500 (B.C.) to 1912: no Prohibition, no bogus “schedules”. Full repeal of this recent innovation from Hell, drug prohibition.
“psychedelic experiences are known to be strongly influenced by expectations and the context (ie, set and setting) and that such experiences sometimes result in major shifts in worldview, adding psychedelics to fringe or unproven psychotherapeutic paradigms may increase the risk of iatrogenic [medicine-caused] harm.
“The safest and most effective psychedelic treatment protocols will likely be those that integrate existing evidence-based interventions and psychotherapies.”
That’s going to be a bit of a problem, if psychotherapy isn’t evidence-based. 🤔
Marketing Literature Con’t:
“Psychiatric treatments have seen only modest innovation for decades.“
Translation: We need to make up some fresh sht to sell to marks. Solution: Take the same old sht that people aren’t buying anymore, and just add psychedelics.
“it is still possible for researchers and clinicians to squander this opportunity. … this new era of psychedelic research is no longer being reborn but rather coming into maturity.
“Whether this era of psychedelic research will conclude with another scientific and clinical dead-end period of prohibition
“or move ahead into a productive time of mainstream research and clinical application remains to be seen. “
🏥 🍽 🐉
yum i like clinics 🤤
“We owe it to the next generation of researchers and clinicians, and to the millions of patients with mood and substance use disorders who may benefit from these treatments, to ensure that no exceptions be made in the standards of research or clinical application for psychedelics, regardless of their seemingly exceptional potential.”
“Other studies have examined the effects of salvinorin A, dextromethorphan, and ketamine which produce altered states of consciousness having some similarities to psilocybin.
“The Hopkins laboratory has also conducted a series of internet survey studies [the Bad Trip Survey] characterizing various psychedelic experiences including those associated with acute [during-session] and enduring [= per the Egodeath theory: permanent qualifying of possibilism-thinking] adverse effects, mystical-type effects [MEQ], entity and God-encounter experiences”
“mystical-type effects” – Warning: 1/4 of these “effects” is dogmatic “ineffability”, which Pahnke’s 1963 dissertation, however, labels as “alleged”.
The Electrical Engineering Foundation of Psychedelic Science
“Bob Jesse has long been a quiet, guiding force behind the contemporary psychedelic renaissance.
“He was instrumental in forming the psilocybin research team at Johns Hopkins, helped to set its course, co-authored its influential 2006 paper among others, and continues as part of that team. “
In 2006 when I finished my main article at Egodeath.com (and the Plaincourault article), which initiated the Psychedelic Renaissance, that triggered the release of the 2006 Hopkins article announcing the big news, that Psilocybin gives mystic experience. 😲 🤯
“He has led the drafting of foundational documents:
a Code of Ethics for Spiritual Guides (1995),
an amicus brief (2005) for the U.S. Supreme Court in a successful religious liberty case, and
a statement on Open Science (2017) now signed by numerous leaders in the field. [Berkeley: “now signed by numerous leaders in the psychedelic field”]
He has served on boards and advises various individuals and groups in the space, including the new [Sep. 2020] Berkeley Center for the Science of Psychedelics.
“Earlier in life, Bob trained at Hopkins in electrical engineering and computer science, consulted for AT&T Bell Labs, and worked at Oracle as a VP of business development.”
The Science of Psychedelics
2020 UC Berkeley Center for the Science of Psychedelics (BCSP)
x https://psychedelics.berkeley.edu/ – “The UC Berkeley Center for the Science of Psychedelics (BCSP) is an academic center focused on psychedelic research, training, and public education. Founded in September of 2020, the center is overseen by a multidisciplinary group of UC Berkeley faculty “
“BCSP works to improve health and well-being for all through culturally informed psychedelic research; psychedelic facilitation training for religious, spiritual-care, and health-care professionals; and accessible, accurate, and reliable public education.”
Real Journalist Pollan
I consider Pollan an actual journalist, not like the ignorant outsider demons who invade the field purely to destroy everything and everyone in the field and self-aggrandize, the phony pseudo-“journalists”, there purely as self-serving muckrakers, at the expense of the field, importing their alien agenda of destruction.
Just because a demon bent on destruction attaches “journalist” to their name, does not make them a journalist.
Who we are: Michael Pollan: “Professor of Journalism at UC Berkeley and the author of eight books, including How to Change Your Mind, his 2018 account of the renaissance of scientific research into psychedelics.
“In July 2022, Netflix released a docuseries based on How to Change Your Mind, exploring the history and uses of substances including LSD, psilocybin, MDMA and mescaline.
“Michael leads BCSP’s public-education program, the first effort from a public university to foster a well-informed, nuanced understanding of psychedelics.”
Members of the secret underground psychedelics club protecting their turf have objected to Pollan’s orchestrated top-down media takeover/invasion in the Psychedelic Turf Wars.
But per Jan Irvin, “grassroots” Pop Sike Cult was always astroturf anyway – first wave, second wave alike. Fake social engineering to the core.
Furthur: A PR bus filled with writers, all of whom just happened to become famous writers nationwide, by coincidence.
Massive Media Blitz Pushing Muraresku & Carl Ruck & Figureheads of the Psychedelic Renaissance
In guitar gear, when a product is released, in one day, suddenly 10 gear review YouTube channels release 10 videos about the product on the same day.
In top-down promotion of astroturfed Psychedelics Renaissance, one day we wake up and there are suddenly 100 podcast YouTube channels all with interviews of Michael Pollan and Roland Griffiths (on the 4 Approved Clinical Benefits of Psilocybin), and of Brian Muraresku and Carl Ruck on ancient psychedelics, diversely ranging all the way from Ergot at Eleusis, to … Ergot at Eleusis.
Sam Harris’ Making Sense podcast with Roland Griffiths
December 14, 2022
“Sam speaks with renowned psychedelics researcher Roland Griffiths. They discuss such topics as
the FDA’s treatment of psychedelics
psychedelic use in vulnerable populations
psychedelics and meditation
advice for “bad” trips
microdosing
Roland’s stage-4 cancer diagnosis and his reflections on death.
Roland Griffiths, Ph.D., is a Professor in the Departments of Psychiatry and Neurosciences at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, and founding Director of the Johns Hopkins Center on Psychedelic and Consciousness Research.
He is the author of over 380 [420, on other page & Harris speaks] journal articles and book chapters, and has trained more than 50 postdoctoral research fellows. Roland has been a consultant to the National Institutes of Health, to numerous pharmaceutical companies in the development of new psychotropic drugs, and as a member of the Expert Advisory Panel on Drug Dependence for the World Health Organization.”
Griffiths Presents a Philosophy of Conduct of Life Based on Meditation, Biased Against Psychedelics, Constructs His Convention-Friendly “Meditation Is Better Than Psychedelics” Narrative Tale
5:30 – Of 2019, Griffiths said “Your experience of that was beautiful, and harrowing, that’s the nature of these experiences.”
42:00 – Griffiths recounts resonance of Psilocybin and non-drug meditation and two experiments, with new meditators and experienced meditators, on Psilocybin. I skimmed and mentioned this paper but didn’t catch a citation of it.
“we showed the enduring changes in traits, which is difficult to find trait-level changes in people, we were able to show it, in psychological well-being and pro-social behavior; psilocybin potentiated that.
“In an unpublished study of long-term meditators, had no recent psychedelics experience, so they weren’t proponents of psychedelics,”
But see Wouter Hanegraaff’s remorse about his 1995 gullibility on this point. Griffiths is posturing and framing, here; this is compromised, pro-meditation, Psychedelics-distancing apologetics.
“They took to the psilocybin, and were able to navigate it much more readily (than new meditators) because of their understanding and experience with meditation, so the Psilocybin effects were less profound for them.
“I need to go back and look at that data.
“The Psilocybin for the long-term meditators were facilitated, they took to the psilocybin experience … with examining the nature of the mind.
“Across the board, most of them reported Psilocybin enlivened their meditation practice.“
THAT’S BECAUSE MEDITATION CAME FROM PSILOCYBIN.
“Psilocybin got them out of their rut of meditation practice, increased their interest in meditation. “
Yeah because now they’re doing authentic, actual meditation, instead of non-drug, ersatz, phony, pseudo-meditation.
“None of them would have said psychedelics is a replacement of meditation.”
Meditation is not a replacement for Psilocybin.
“Meditation provides the foundation for these [psychedelics] explorations.”
Psilocybin provides the foundation for meditation.
45:30 – “There’s all the difference in the world between an awakening experience and leading an awakened life, and thats what meditation is absolutely designed for is practice, for bringing that awareness moment to moment into daily life, and psychedelics are certainly less likely to accomplish that.“
Griffiths is “certainly” a BIASED propagandist advocate of the alleged benefits of sophisticated, structured meditation, as opposed to sophisticated, structured use of Psilocybin.
MEDITATION IS THEIR SUBSTITUTE RELIGION, even though culturally and historically, their meditation came from psilocybin.
These meditation advocates are intent on short-changing and selling short the Psychedelics that drives everything about meditation.
I’m “done” listening to this utterly conventional framing, the tired old Psilocybin-diminishing song and dance that Prohibition created.
We’ve been listening to this same bullshiite story since October 6, 1966.
Wouter Hanegraaff is embarrassed that he got taken in, in 1995, by this fake, posturing narrative.
These people, Newage BS’ers, sit around all day in a circle, parrotting this entrenched self-congratulating, morality-tale, dominant narrative to each other, decade after decade.
47:00 “Our understanding of the mind is in its infancy.” That’s good to hear.
“How we teach how to watch objects of consciousness appear during Psilocybin meditation, all kinds of things can arise: transcendent or right frightening, demonic figure appears, don’t run from it, you can’t the “eternalism” state of consciousness escape it or fight it; approach it with curiosity, be deeply interested in what it is.
“It will change and turn into something else, it’s not real, it’s just an construct of consciousness.”
“thoughts that torture you, you’ve just been caught up in a narrative.”
49:00 – Harris: “The relation between psychedelics and mediation seems paradoxical …
54:00 “if you get a whole bunch of people to meditate, most people will leave it, walk away, not interested.
“but if you give them Psilocybin, 100% of those people will have a radical change in their experience, and many will have a most important transformative experience – due to radical changes in the content of consciousness, the classic beatific vision, perceptual changes.”
“Most people can’t even get started with meditation, except for psychedelics.”
That’s because meditation came from psychedelics.
STOP ROBBING PSYCHEDELICS OF CREDIT, OF THEIR DUE GLORY AS THE SOURCE OF MEDITATION.
58:00 – finally Griffiths says something sane and reasoned. “Integrate psychedelics and meditation.” But he called meditation the “foundation”, he should say psychedelics are the foundation for meditation practice.
Griffiths: “I did a week-long meditation retreat and 3 days into the middle of it, did 10 mics of L, which is barely perceptible, that supercharged the retreat experience. Intensified; there’s nothing discontinuous from the straight-out meditation retreat experience.”
59:00 – We are in infancy about differences between the psychedelics.
1:00:40 – “I found meditation to be torture, this wasn’t for me, “
Harris: “you bounced off.”
“Swiss: Vollenweider’s meditation retreat, one day they gave a high dose Psilocybin. There’s real room for exploration of lower dosage.”
1:10:45 – “My experience with meditation helped deal with cancer diagnosis. Also my experience with psychedelics. Though my experience with psychedelics is not extensive; it’s limited.”
Jordan Peterson also noticed that Griffiths is constantly weaving his “Meditation-the-Measure-of-All-Spiritual-Things” religion all throughout his narratives. All throughout Griffiths’ storytelling of psychedelics, is woven …
IDEA: Griffiths’ research partner Matthew Johnson has broken away from the Roland Griffiths “Meditation + Stace 1960 Mystical Experience” religion/paradigm/narrative.
Back in [year of “Validation of MEQ” article], was the final straw for Matthew Johnson, with the Buddha statue in the photos at end of that article.
Then in [year], Matthew Johnson wrote the article “Lose the Buddha statue”.
Carl Ruck doesn’t write about Amanita; Ruck writes about Secret Amanita within an 1880 Anthropology Theory paradigm, “wild vs. cultivated”.
Similarly, Griffiths doesn’t give us psychedelics.
Rather, Griffiths gives us psychedelics heavily framed within a heavy-handed deep devotional commitment to the religion of Meditation, propped up by 1960 view of perennial universal core of Christian Mysticism, buttressed by foundation: #1: INEFFABILITY. #2, 3, 4, also.
For Griffiths, psychedelics can assist the real, main thing & point of reference, which is MEDITATION + MYSTICISM.
The Griffiths framing-paradigm for psychedelics is:
MEDITATION = TRUTH = REAL WAY = PERENNIAL MYSTIC EXPERIENCING = INEFFABILITY.
– none of which is of any use to me, which is why I instead created the Egodeath theory in 1985.
Meditation is low utility & low efficacy of an approach.
Mysticism is low utility & low efficacy of an approach.
STEM will provide a high utility & high efficacy of an approach.
1:11:00 “Psychedelics experiencing can be incredibly harrowing.”
“There are rabbit holes that one can go down that are very very difficult. …. That I’ve had enough of those experiences to recognize that I had some agency of whether or not I was going to go there.
“That came into play because I was playing hardball b/c of the cancer diagnosis.
“… the mystery verging on a miracle of sentient self-aware creatures, we have no clue about how to solve(?) that mystery.”
Solve the mystery of mortality?
1:16:04 “I revised my will, to research … focus of the project as a gift: create a program of research that focuses in on psychedelics and the development of secular spirituality, that is, spirituality stripped of paranormal & supernatural causes, but it has to be hard empirical research, I believe fundamentally in science, as the way we can come to true und’g of replicable phenomena. We’re going to set in motion an engine of research in perpetuity.”
1:17:00 – “I have done high dose after my cancer diagnosis. .. I have done a significant dose of L. I wasn’t interested at first but friends asked how do I know I don’t have more to explorer with respect to psychedelics and th __. And did some inquiry into that, it turned out to be affirming of where I am. … query of whether I was masking over some anxiety … papering this over, or skeletons in the closet I needed to know about.
“I’m not given to using psychedelics in this fashion: I addressed the cancer as something Other, is this inevitable that I’m gonna die? No response.
“I addressed the cancer conversationally again. The cancer answered Yes. I never would have spoken about this kind of personal use approach before.
“I tried to bargain with the cancer for more time. I’m not used to using psychedelics as dialog with entities, I’m averse to that.”
Griffiths 10-minute video on Griffiths website about the terminal diagnosis and his relationship with it, about death.
[misplaced:] Not history of Meditation; history of Psilocybin history, actually.
Related: https://tim.blog/2022/12/08/roland-griffiths/ Tim Ferris, who is a funder of David Yaden & Griffiths. Tim Ferris Podcast episode: Roland Griffiths, PhD — Life’s Ultimate Glide Path, An Unexpected Stage IV Diagnosis, Facing Death, How Meditation and Psychedelics Can Help, and The Art of Living a Life of Gratitude (#641)
1994, Griffiths started meditation. He took a meditation course before that, but it didn’t take, it was a frustrating ordeal, in grad school. Meditation was developed over thousands of years. Using metaphor description. Later, meditation clicked for me this time. … the mystery of consciousness, the nature of self.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU0Iv1veKCM Video title: “Roland Griffiths – Interesting personal back story for me”
– transcript available, though I sloppily/quickly typed this part:
“Met Bob Schuster, introduced me to Bob Jesse (Council on Spiritual Practices). … the primary religious experience, how entheogens inform our experience of this transformation.
“Jesse got me to study science/ psychedelics/ meditation/ spiritual transformation & religious experiencing.
“Bob Jesse introduced me to Bill Richards, who worked with Walter Pahnke & Stan Grof.”
6:17 – “was compared to pharmacology and and we certainly weren’t gonna limit our study to simply studying the mystical experience we were going to do compared to pharmacology and that’s what we set out to do.
“I think I was a you know interesting position to undertake that study because I really did not care one way or another how that study came out
“I was not a particularly for these entheogen these kinds of compounds as unique triggers to the realm of the spiritual.
“my interest was more personal and and very very curious about the nature of those experiences.
“Fundamentally we just wanted to know you know what happened so in some some ways I felt that I was in a position to be a fair broker of that kind of study.
“And so we we designed a study to focus in on that [psychedelic mystical experience], and bent over backwards to try to control expectancy. I think that was the the big difficulty that I saw in designing a study to try to get to that.”
THE ROLAND R. GRIFFITHS, PH.D. PROFESSORSHIP FUND In Psychedelic Research On Secular Spirituality And Well-Being
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“to support a professorship and to establish a world class, rigorous, empirical program of research with psychedelic substances to advance understanding of well-being and spirituality in the service of human flourishing for generations to come. The hallmark of this research shall be the scientific method.”
I am an advocate for the psychedelic cognitive phenomenology scientific method. Loose Cognitive Science.
The Professor
Sam Harris on Meditation, Psychedelics, and No-Free-Will
Explained why meditation doesn’t cause effects.
He’s promoting his meditation app, called Waking Up.
Timestamps 00:00:00 Dr. Sam Harris 00:04:36 Levels, WHOOP, Eight Sleep, Momentous 00:08:54Sense of Self & Meditation, Dualism of Self 00:18:07 Sense of Self in Brain & Body 00:25:28Consciousness vs. Contents, Meditation 00:28:25Interrupting Sense of Self & Attentional Focus, Visual Saccade 00:33:30Observer & Actor, Default Mode Network & Meditation, Blind Spot 00:40:48 AG1 (Athletic Greens) 00:41:57 Mediation & Paths to Understanding Consciousness, Non-Dualistic Experience 00:57:32 Sense of Self throughout Evolution 01:07:40Sense of Self from Human Development, Language 01:18:42 InsideTracker 01:19:46 Internal Dialogue, Distractibility & Mindfulness 01:26:27 Time Perception & Mindfulness, Vipassana Meditation, Resistance & Pain 01:37:13Consciousness & Sense of Control, Free Will 01:43:14Authoring Thoughts: Storytelling & Ideas, Free Will 01:52:11Meditation & the Paradoxical Search for Self 02:06:44 Meditation & Concentration Practice 02:11:58 Mindfulness, “Skylike Mind” & Thoughts 02:15:11States of Self & Context, Dualistic Experiences 02:32:39 Distraction & Identification of Thoughts, Meditation & “Flow” States 02:42:58 Eyes-Open Meditations, Sense of Self, Visual Cues & Social Interactions 02:54:59 Paths to Meditation, Mindfulness Meditation Step-Functions 03:05:58Psychedelics, MDMA & Experiences in Consciousness, Religion03:21:11Meditation, Psychedelic Journeys & Inner Truths 03:29:48Psilocybin, Ego-Dissolution & Thought Expansion 03:40:09 Process vs. Achievement of Goals, Fulfillment in Present 03:54:29 Leaving Twitter; Conflict, Life Interruption & Politics 04:06:14 Social Media, Attentional Disruption & Deep Work 04:15:39Meditation & Sense of Self 04:19:02 Sam Harris & Waking Up App, Zero-Cost Support, YouTube Feedback, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, Momentous, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter
Video title: “Dr. Sam Harris: Using Meditation to Focus, View Consciousness & Expand Your Mind | Huberman Lab 105”
Video’s description, my excerpts:
“bachelor’s degree in philosophy from Stanford University
doctorate (Ph.D.) in neuroscience from the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA).
author of multiple best-selling books
world-renowned public-facing intellectual on meditation, consciousness, free will, psychedelics and neuroscience.
the creator of Waking Up [medit. app]
host of the Making Sense podcast.
meditation as a route to understanding “the self” and experiencing consciousness, not just changing one’s conscious state.
meditation techniques and their benefits
meditation fundamentally changes our worldview and how it can be merged seamlessly into daily life.
help us overcome universal challenges such as
distractibility and
persistent, internal dialogue (“chatter”) to allow for
deep contentment and
pervasive shifts in our awareness, all while acknowledging the more immediate
stress-lowering and
memory-improving effects of meditation.
“We also discuss
the therapeutic use of psychedelics and
the mechanistic similarities between the benefits of a psychedelic journey and long-term meditation practices.
What about the benefits of a long-term series of psychedelic journeys, including psychedelic meditation?
“rationale behind Sam’s recent decision to close his social media (Twitter) [24×7 dumpster fire 🔥😵] account.
“This episode should interest anyone wanting to learn more about
the higher order functions of the brain,
the brain-body connection,
consciousness and, of course,
meditation and why and how to meditate for maximum benefit.”
I’m sold! Throw the 🍄 in the trash, meditation’s the real deal! Even though it doesn’t do anything. It all makes sense, thx Harris, how do I buy your meditation app?
“A new operating system for your mind. [wow, straight outta 1985, John Lilly 1967, …] Waking Up isn’t just another meditation app. Start your free 7-day trial today.”
Meditate for free! 😲 No more paying Zen Master Brad every time you meditate for 60 years with no results; pay Zen Master Sam instead!
Harris Extracts
1:38:00 – “The sense of control is a total illusion” – “thoughts simply arise … free will”
Statements of “X is an illusion” are worthless, even Harris points this out at start.
1:42:00 – “fund’l mystery: the source of your thoughts”
1:45:00 – Harris: picking drinking coffee vs. water. He’s describing exactly my ~September 1987 experiment demo (see the binder notebook, Fall 1987 semester), you don’t know which option A or B you will end up choosing.
2:36:00 – an inner homunculus rider sitting atop consciousness. “It’s the sense that there’s kind of a rider on the horse of consciousness, as opposed to just consciousness and its contents. It rides atop this illusion of control.”
Photo credit: Julie M. Brown. Weight on right leg, don’t rely on left leg.Left hand holds branching, right hand cuts/removes branching, or holds non-branching. Crop by Cybermonk around Dec. 20, 2022, see other posts around then to find source.
Plate in Brinckmann 1906 book repeatedly cited by Panofsky to Wasson in 1952.
In my 2006 Plaincourault article, I correctly deduced and accused Wasson of withholding citations provided by Panofsky.
Panofsky certainly must have included citations (or copies of art) along with his strong, bold claim that “We art historians are familiar with mushroom trees.”
My 2006 deduction and charge were fully confirmed by Browns’ 2019 article publishing both of Panofsky’s letters to Brown.
3:10:00 – finally starts actually talking about psychedelics
Harris tried to persuade Richard Dawkins (on Harris’ podcast) and D Dennett to meditate, but they lack psychedelics experience, so therefore they had no interest in meditation.
“Dawkins meditated, but nothing happened,so he wasn’t interested. I know that if I gave him 100 mics L or 5 g msh or 25 mg psil (or more, comparable to 5 g) … there’s no possibility that nothing would happen, so Dawkins would be interested in meditation.”
Why not trashcan the inefficacious, fake, substitute meditation, and skip straight to the real deal instead, the source where meditation came from: psilocybin?
3:14:21 – “Meditation would be the center of gravity the rest of his/Dawkins’ life, if only he had the psychedelics experience to cause him to be finterested in meditation.”
A farce. Psychedelics, not meditation, would be the center of gravity.
Just like people THINK they are interested in Amanita, but are ACTUALLY interested in the Psilocybin that they are conflating Amanita with, here Harris is conflating –
Meditation is a proxy for Harris’ interest in psychedelics.
Harris assumes that other people will make the same proxy/conflation:
Psychedelics are interesting, therefore, get rid of them, and instead find Meditation interesting, as a substitution serving to replace (and prevent) psychedelics.
The Atman project: pursuing Ego Death & Transcendent Knowledge through methods (non-drug meditation) that are selected because they are known to & guaranteed to avoid and prevent Ego Death & Transcendent Knowledge.
3:15:30 – “Meditation meant absolutely nothing to me until my first dose ( MDMA). But the drug wears off, and now you have the dim memory of the experience.”
As if meditation gives, per the myth & claim, a permanent state that’s exactly like psilocybin, as the Meditation Hucksters try to imply (without going so far as false marketing explicit claim to that effect).
3:17:46 – “‘Once you have one of the experiences on psychedelics … you know that there’s a there there [ie religion is real]”
So why does this result (for Harris) in the dubious, unconvincing to Dawkins & Dennett, Harris’ roundabout conclusion “meditation is interesting“, rather than the sensible, rational, direct conclusion, “psychedelics are interesting“?
Harris is doing proxy substitution posturing. His affectation of interest in meditation is masking an actual interest in psychedelics.
3:21:45 – “meditation is delivering the goods, so there’s no need to keep having this, seeking these peak experiences with drugs … but it had been 25 years since I had done that, and there was this resurgence of interest in psychedelics, and I was being asked about psychedelics, and I was talking about their utility for me, … I had never done high dose msh alone, blindfolded, inwardly directed …
“I’d done high doses of L, but not msh, so I did that, and it was very useful, and I spoke about it on my podcast, search Sam Harris mushroom trip 19 minutes on YouTube,
“… my mindfulness training was useful for that.
“an overwhelmingly strong … it could have gone one way or another, I’m going to try to resist this, but it was irresistable,
“letting go of self in this context is the thing that is going to make the difference between heaven and hell, can’t tell if its agony or ecstasy“
3:24:11 – “the difference between the two is a high-wire act, you could just fall to one side or the other, so I think what people want is to be able to extract from the psychedelic experience wisdom that is applicable to ordinary states of consciousness.”
The worldline path is narrow and non-branching, not broad and branching.
3:25:49 – “The project can’t be being high all the time. … has got to be mappable into ordinary .. the illusion of the self, is discoverable without any changes to consciousness [ie in ord state mediation]”
Harris is delivering an anti-psychedelics, non-drug meditation APOLOGETICS exercise.
3:29:36 Huberman: “I have not had experience with psilocybin. 🤥 At least, not since my youth. And I don’t recommend young people do it. I regret doing L & psilocybin as a young person. I don’t say that for politically correct reasons or liability reasons, I just think that my mind was not developed.
“How is it that high dose psilocybin and the ego dissolution … how does that line up with meditation? b/c I did not experience that on MDMA.”
“Psilocybin and ego dissolution.“
Harris: “the sense of self can still have a center of experience …. reify those as a goal state.
3:31:26 – “emptiness in Buddhism … unconditioned, unconstrained, open, centerless, nonduality, loss of a sense of subject, what’s left is called ’emptiness’. Not same as Unity oneness. When the center drops out of experience, it’s not that you are merged with the cup. Psychedelics give a false impression of what the goal is, unity experiences.”
I retort: Non-drug meditation gives a false impression of what the goal is.
3:33:48 – “In my 20s, above Muir Woods, L, friends and I … planned to commune w/ giant redwoods, dropped at dawn, came on immediately, we came to a 20′ boring oak tree instead, and it absorbed our attn for 6 hours. Ego dissolution but a kind of egoity goes along with the ride. Center of bullseye a recog’n that equalizes all experiences, avaiable now in this podcast experience as merging w/ oak tree on 400 mics”
Of 2019, Griffiths said at 5:30 “Your experience of that was beautiful, and harrowing, that’s the nature of these experiences.”
3:37:36 – “a few years ago, my most recent psychedelic experience, … the real point of contact between psychedelics and meditation for me is: but for my experiences on psychedelics, there’s just no way I would have had the free attention to be interested in the [meditation] project at all.
“Not just the insights into selflessness, what is a good life, relationships, the changes you can make in the world, expand your model of what’s possible, what kind of self you want to be in the world”
Harris’ branching-possibilities fest. Amplify your freewill branching power through psychedelics & meditation – says the advocate of no-free-will.
3:41:00 – Huberman – “contradicts itself, without a lot of progress … prevents ppl from exploring meditation. is the idea to just be ok with everything, unconditionally? radical acceptance? a beacon and guide to navigate tough areas and political … might not be informed… only through a deep understanding of the self as it really is, as opposed to this illusion, …”
3:34:00 Harris: “lesson from psychedelics & meditation: become more process oriented, sensitive to the mirage-like character of achieving our goals.”
3:49:00 – “meditation, but not psychedelics, separates your happiness from what happens in the world.”
He’s conflating philosophy of conduct of life, and mind-modelling, with meditation.
“meditation accomplishes this puncturing of the project of seeking happiness project by the recognition that you’re already free, that’s what meditation makes possible.”
Says Mr. no-free-will and spirituality/ psychedelics advocate
3:52:00
Cogniplasticity > Neuroplasticity
Cognitive Neuroreductionism
“We use a Cognitive approach. Neural brain receptors neuronal …” [and that’s the last you ever hear of their token word ‘cognitive’]
Session Guides, Don’t Be Too Directive – But Administer this Stace 1960 Mystical Experience Questionnaire So You Can Measure Whether the Client Had a Complete Mystical Experience
How to scientifically measure whether someone had a Complete Mystical Experience:
Don’t direct, prime, shape, and filter the framing to construct the client’s experience. Remove New Age Buddha statues symbolism from the clinic room.
Instead, hand clients this 1960 Stace book Mysticism and Philosophy, in the form of the Mystical Experience Questionnaire (MEQ) from Walter Pahnke 1962.
The client’s experience will be graded based on their answers about Ineffability.
If client failed to conform to our Mystical Experiences features, re-route client to our Challenging Therefore Non-Mystical Experiences Questionnaire (CTNMEQ), where we will administer the needed Grief psychedelics-assisted psychotherapy.
Continue re-administering psychedelics sessions until client gives the correct answers in our Mystical Because Positive and Ineffable Experiences Questionnaire (MBPIEQ).
Do you mean a “complete mystic experience” leading to {standing on right leg} to reconcile with the threatening eternalism {shadow dragon monster} – the experience of the threat of catastrophic loss of control, and victoriously solving it and bringing back the treasure of Transcendent Knowledge?
Validation of the revised Mystical Experience Questionnaire in experimental sessions with psilocybin Frederick Barrett, Mathew Johnson, Roland Griffiths 2015 Pubmed url: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26442957/ – for PDF, click “FREE Full text PMC” button in upper right. The 30 questions and 4 categories are shown in Figure 1 on page 15.
In the above MEQ Validation article, Matthew “Lose the New Age Buddha Symbolism” Johnson wrote:
Abstract – “A method to score a “complete mystical experience” that was used in previous versions of the mystical experience questionnaire is validated in the MEQ30″
p. 3: “Also, while earlier versions of the MEQ43 included a method to identify a “complete mystical experience,” which was increased by psilocybin (Griffiths et al., 2006, 2011; Pahnke, 1967), an analogous method for scoring a complete mystical experience has not been demonstrated in the MEQ30.
“This “complete mystical experience” may serve as a valuable predictor of positive outcomes.
“Cancer patients who met the criteria for a “complete mystical experience” in a study of psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy showed greater clinical improvements than did those who did not meet these criteria (Richards et al., 1977).
“Healthy adults who met the criteria for a “complete mystical experience” showed increases in openness after psilocybin administration, while those who did not meet the criteria did not show these changes (MacLean et al., 2011).”
wow, so sciency – this is our Scientific foundation. 😲
To detect whether you had a Complete Mystical Experience, we must ask your neighbor 6 months later if you are less of a jerk than before the Psilocybin session.
Are you, in fact, scoring higher on Openness now?
The goal of Psilocybin transformation is an increase of Openness scores and assessments. All very scientific.
TOTALLY NOT MADE-UP, ARBITRARY PSEUDO-SCIENCE BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO FKKIN CLUE WHAT THEY’RE TALKING ABOUT
“the probability of fulfilling criteria for having a complete mystical experience on the MEQ43 is an increasing function of psilocybin dose (Griffiths et al., 2011).”
p. 8:
“Observations with a score ≥60% of the maximum possible score on each of the subscales of the MEQ43 … (yielding a classification based on six of the seven scales of the MEQ43), are considered a complete mystical experience (Griffiths et al., 2006).”
Of the 4 categories of effects questions in the MEQ30, one entire category is questions about “ineffability”.
Give the correct theology answers, or else you had an incomplete mystical experience.
The measure of how complete your mystical experience from Psilocybin is, is the extent to which you report ineffability.
What does the {dragon-taming}, {right-leg-standing} guy say about the topic of ineffability of Psilocybin experience?
I fear he’ll fail Matthew “Lose the Buddha Statue” Johnson’s MEQ criteria for “a complete mystical experience” and will flunk the MEQ and be sent for psychedelics-assisted Grief counselling per the CEQ instead.
“Observations on the MEQ30 that had a score ≥60% of the maximum possible score on each of the four subscales of the MEQ30 were considered a “complete mystical experience.”
“Classification statistics of the complete mystical scorings derived from the MEQ30 were assessed, using the classifications of complete mystical experience derived from the MEQ43 as the ground truth.“
The default mode network is, specifically, the possibilism experiential mode, which produces the possibilism mental worldmodel, aka possibilism-thinking or naive possibilism-thinking.
The altered mode network is, specifically, the eternalism experiential mode, which produces the eternalism mental worldmodel, aka eternalism-thinking, which includes qualified possibilism-thinking.
The Psychedelic Plan for World Peace
If everyone took psychedelics, then they would all have the same, correct view of everything, which (of course) just happens to be the view that I hold. 😑
Everyone would agree and hold the same view, if only they would all take psychedelics.
Then they would all think exactly like me, and there would be world peace.
Difficult basic research for psychometrics
poor communication = unscientific. Science is effective communication, a standard for model clarity.
The scientific method = straight presentation, direct and plain.
It’s ridiculously hard finding clear basic straightforward representations of psychedelic psychometrics versions of questionnaires.
These standards are ubiquitous, universally used international formats — that you can’t find anywhere, no plain statement of what the questionnaire is, how many levels, subsets, items, per each version release/ refactoring.
Trade secret standards, that are impossible to get ahold of
Poor Communication in Psychometrics Articles
Psychedelics Today podcast: Psychedelics Weekly 2022/12/30 – Psilocybin & Stress Response, Medical Association Endorses Decrim, Scott Wiener Senate Bill 58
A flaw to notice in that line of argumentation: That argument takes it for granted that deterring drug use is desirable.
The argument relies on assumed perpetual demonization of psychoactives – so it perpetuates the same attitude that props up the totally fraudulent and thoroughly bunk/ scam/ sham idea of Prohibition.
“Star 4065 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3” – mp3 created Sep 11, 2022, uploaded Oct 16, 2022
This separate download has been replaced by an Episode 222 guitar download bundle. “Star 4065 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3” – mp3 created Sep 11, 2022, uploaded Oct 16, 2022 download for 1 week: https://we.tl/t-gQpVvq0M2D
Star 4065 wasn’t published yet until Oct 16 because 4065 was waiting/pending, it goes with voice content that I recorded around episode 221-222 timeframe (sep. 13-14) – so I later packaged song 4065 with Episode 222, revising today’s earlier v1 upload of too-short Ep222, to now include song 4065 and voice content 4066-4069, which is solid.
technical theme: used brighter monitors to try to get less bright result. Tracks 7+8 of song BLENDR1 3:44-14:00.
Egodeath Mystery Show episode 222: Return of the Fixed Stars – Oct 17 2022 (recorded Sep. 8/13/14 & Oct. 16 2022) – expanded v3 + separate guitar download
v3, 54:28 (76.6MB) “Ep222 Return of the Fixed Stars.mp3”: download for 1 week starting Oct 17 2022: https://we.tl/t-aXgOuoBx9C
v3 is 54:28 not 38:18, and has relatively less guitar mixed in.
0:00 Intro guitar today October 16 2022, including new mic (on far cab, not voice), AT2020
0:55 track 4040 recorded Sep 8 2022: voice/content: calling BS on a usual statement in article that I plan to read more, along w/ a dissertation:
… Phenomenology and Altered States of Consciousness: A New Framework for Analysis? Szabo, Horvath, & Szummer 2014.
… Ideas of Spiritual Ascent and Theurgy from the Ancients to Ficino and Pico. Kirsty Pattison, 2020.
5:17 (track 4041) additional minute, Sep 8.
6:29 track 4066 intro for…
6:43 track 4067 Dissertation and Helios commentary of Helios in Hanegraaff. Have not read the two documents by Szabo and Pattison in full yet.
16:43 track 4067 Outro for the above
17:43 track 4068 Intro/station ID
17:50 track 4069 Intro & content: Helios demiurge and controller of archons, revered and honored. Sometimes even by Hanegraaff when he’s not falling in the pit of the misleading and infernal “I Hate Fate” mystery-religion theme of Late (not Early) Antiquity.
… 20:00 – “I need, expect, and demand religious revelation to give me my egoic control freedom steering power, amplified.”
“Empower me, superficially, built on my sand-based foundation. Skip over Eternalism, bedeviling my project of control-power amplification. Skip to transcendental freedom, bypassing no-free-will, so I can end up where I started: possibilism-thinking.”
25:00 Possibilism-premised transcendence vs. Eternalism-founded transcendence.
29:49 Outro with guitar
30:36 track 4148 Intro/station ID Oct 16 2022
30:52 track 4151 Miking for Oct 16. 2 SM57 mics for voice, 2′. Guitar cabs: 2 far mics, 2 close mics. new far mic: AT2020.
31:16 (track 4148) voice content: Hanegraaff Book Critique Summary Egodeath Mystery Show. I posted that page announcing this recording today. Distortion at start, but clear after a few minutes (starting at 9:16). miking/eq: see linked page.
53:59 Outro
54:28 End
The following is a separate .mp3 file for v3, w different timestamps in v2:
29:53 Guitar. track 4148 immed after voice content. Song: SPKLPF1 tracks 1+2, from Loft sessions track 3. 4 mics including Audio-Technica AT2020 6′ from Right guitar speaker cab. Probably the vocal mics + AT2020, no Left far mic, no L+R close mics.
… 32:18 AT2020 mic by itself, random placement, as I fumble getting all the mics active. 3.5′ from cab not aimed at cab.
32:51 Guitar, 4:20 (track 4149) – this is the actual intended miking setup with the 4 mics, plus momentary pair of vocal mics (SM57) for Station ID/intro spot t 34:16 & 34:39. This is the most flexible miking setup, that I’ve been building toward.
37:18 End. v3’s guitar download’s main mp3 adds more guitar tracks not listed here, as well as adding Star 4065 mp3.
Errata
This episode was supposed to include track 4067 about Helios in Hanegraaff. v3 adds that.
David Ulansey’s book is 1989, not 1992. Luther H. Martin’s recent book in a series discusses how Ulansey’s grad work before 1989 influenced Martin’s book Hellenistic Religions to emphasize heimarmene (fatedness, no-free-will) in Late Antiquity.
Guitar extracts separated out from Episode 222: a separate download. A theme lately is contrasting dark and bright cabs/miking, dry & room reverb, ever since my gear malfunctioned and put out crisped direct sound followed by very dark echoes.
“Ep222 guitar🎸🌌.mp3” – 35:46
“Star 4047 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3” – technical theme: setting up 6+ mic signals for two guitar cabs. Sep 9 2022.
“Star 4055 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3” – Sep 10 2022. Tracks 3+4 of song BLENDR2. Fading mics.
“Star 4056 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3” – Sep 10. Tracks 3+4 of song BLENDR2.
“Star 4065 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3” – 4064 was in a previous episode but feels like it should be here too.
v1: Download for 1 week starting October 16, 2022: https://we.tl/t-O4mmRBWp1b v1 = 38:18 + guitar-only mp3 files – after uploading, I found additional good content to make this a 1-hour regular episode – re-did Ep222 and separated download for guitar, in v3.
song title: “Ep222 Return of the Fixed Stars” – in v1, 1:00 to 30:00 is voice content; ~first minute & last 8 minutes of v1 is guitar. Plus addl mp3s of guitar:
Files in v1 download
“Ep222 Return of the Fixed Stars.mp3”
“Star 4047 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3” – technical theme: setting up 6+ mic signals for two guitar cabs. Sep 9 2022.
“Star 4055 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3” – Sep 10 2022. Tracks 3+4 of song BLENDR2. Fading mics.
“Star 4056 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3” – Sep 10. Tracks 3+4 of song BLENDR2.
not Star 4065.
not guitar from Ep222.
Mic: Audio-Technica AT2020
on one of the far guitar speaker cabs, not voice here
from tracks 4035, 4037, 4038 (all rec’d Sep 6 2022).
current v1 layout, dubious:
0:00 – trk 4035 – bolding of “youths cut branches” by art historian
11:12 – trk 4037 – “how come when I saw Brinckmann book’s image, Plate 7, I didn’t say “this is isomorphic with frescos/murals of Church of Saint Martin?
20:16 – trk 4038 – dubious. composing webpage. should i nuke and add instead, the 4:20 4040 from tent proj 222? & 4041 (1:12)?
Errata
Typing, mumbling, not doing the show – not focusing on presentation; focused instead on webpage composition. Poor miking, poor audibility, poor presentation. It would be vastly more worth my time to read aloud the finished page – or develop actual spoken content. The problem isn’t typing; but page composition as a mode.
I don’t know about track 4038, the longest part of this episode: it’s me typing a webpage.
I’ll listen to the episode & decide whether to re-do this as a short episode.
Reading a webpage is good – composing it on the show is bad except as a curiosity. This identical case/problem continues into Ep222, with track 4039 finishing composing that webpage. Today’s Sep 13 2022 voice recording / show [meant track 4067, with brief “Egodeath Mystery Show” in 4066 – didn’t make it into today’s published episode 222] is SO much better content, I should maybe skip to producing/ uploading that.
Why Hanegraaff and ancients and everyone avoids eternalism-thinking and constructs neutralizing substitutes eg complicated 3-level models of mental development.
To play back less bright, I’m using Settings > Music > EQ > Small Speakers (or Treble Reduce)
Errata:
Guitar too bright. I need to mix with bright headphones.
A show vs an episode vs a part of an episode vs. a tracking session
concretely the problem/opport is, an 1.5 hour tracking session (recording) is a whole show with live broadcast format so is a show. yet its treated as merely a Part of an Episode.
Episodes are too long. Define rolling episode numbering/divisions:
Pipeline: recording a nonstop series of recordings/ sessions. EACH 1.5 HOURS IS, BY DEFINITION, A NEW EPISODE/ A DISTINCT SHOW. A SHOW = 1.5 HOURS OF CONTENT.
Need flexible open rolling format, yet also need a firm container to support, nevertheless, “this is the start of a show… end of a show”. Support, not enforce, structure: a start & end even if a rolling pipeline nonstop show broadcast.
Egodeath Mystery Show episode 219 – Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars (Recorded Aug 28-Sep 4 & 1988, Uploaded Sep. 5-13+, 2022)
I’m seeing in-browser “view/preview” after click Download on mobile, but no such, on desktop. On desktop browser, I only see a Download option that really does download, not an in-browser preview mp3 player.
Final List of mp3s for Ep219
Ep219a Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Ep219b Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Ep219c Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Ep219d Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Ep219e Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Ep219f Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Ep219g Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Ep219h Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Ep219i Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Ep219j Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Ep219k Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Ep219l Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Ep219m Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Ep219n Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Initial Notes
For now, I’m putting individual Part download links below. Scroll down to see which Parts are available. A-M. N is pending and may be be the final Part. Also there are many Stars guitar extracted recordings.
The remaining parts through Z are pending, production not started. Many voice & guitar recordings to produce. Only 3 trks left to produce (or inspect) now.
Recorded Summer 1988 & August 28-September 4, 2022.
Guitar Strategy/Policy
Absolutely must go fast; minimal production, maybe produce “Rough” versions of parts of this episode or guitar.
Try to put any guitar longer than 30 sec. at the end of the .mp3 recording. Each .mp3 is 1.5 hours, and might have a bunch of guitar at the end. I might do some guitar-only .mp3’s labeled as part “G”, maybe separate download.
This overall long, many-part episode was recorded August 28-September 4, 2022.
Much guitar to selectively cut & clean but I need QUICK/DIRTY PRODUCTION just ship it.
Companion postings; postings near August 28-September 4, 2022
too much guitar, so at the last minute, I re-added the end-concert 3:20 guitar performance in its actual place after my 2.5 hours of lecture where I performed it.
It’s too hard to remove guitar sections from this 2-hour recording. I copied some performances into a Star 4015 project and removed voice.
trk 4015 – DI guitar behind, and I do some short live performances, want to keep inline per live broadcast format but extract too.
x
40:38 short perf
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gtr: sometimes in mode where it’s bright then dark.
Ep219k Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Content: at 0:50, “Blog post: Hanegraaff .. Esotericism and Citicism 2018, Versluis rebuttal artilce, “No, YOU’RE a religionist”. A stupid label guaranteed and proven to confuse EVERYONE. Idiocy. Essentialism. Perennialism.
“You cannot write the history of electromagnetism [or Transcendent Knowledge/ gnosis], because it transcends history.”
Guitar at End, and Star 4019
hear ribbon whine (vocal mics = far mics)
1:49:42. 15 minutes of guitar at the end. Removed most guitar from middle into separate file, Star 4019 (many sections are reversed there), which starts with this 15 minute ending piece except reversed the start of Star 4019.
Tracking file: “VOX_TK_4019.wav”.
Ep219l (L) Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Content starts 1:09. “Esotericism and criticism posting” “the ultimate extreme of religionism would be [eternalism; the Egodeath theory] … but the commenter strangely focuses on future history/prediction, seems irrelevant/arb – why sudden focus on future destined mundane history?
“the transcendental plan” – what egoic presumption is driving this odd focus? Egoic thinking declares a battle against eternalism.
“Ep219m Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3”
Hanegraaff is trying to fabricate the egoic backwards story: as if the mind in the psilocybin state transforms from eternalism-thinking to egoic freewill branching-world possibilism-thinking. Requires History perspective, on the confusing switch from 2-level to 3-level model (for the purpose of Freewill Fog).
“Ep219n Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3”
Extracted guitar as “Twin Star 4032-4033 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3”
Content:
Hanegraaff cites Eye to Eye by Ken Wilber. Says you can’t write the history of anything such as electromagnetism or gnosis/ Transcendent Knowledge. Reverse fake enlightenment from eternalism to possibilism.
Errata
v1 had wrong author name in mp3 file metadata
Guitar Recordings for Episode 219 – 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars
Guitar extracted from Episode 219 recordings, or from the Ep219 sessions
Star 3964 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Star 3979 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Star 3986 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Star 3993 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Star 3999 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Star 4000 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Star 4001 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Star 4003 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Star 4004 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Star 4005 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Star 4006 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Star 4007 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Star 4008 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Star 4009 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Star 4012 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Star 4015 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Star 4017 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Star 4018 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Star 4019 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Star 4020 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Star Cluster 4021-4029 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Twin Star 4032-4033 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3
Later Stars not incl: 4064, 4065 eg
“Star 3964 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3” – new/added Sep 8
Download for 1 week starting Sep 8 2022: https://we.tl/t-leZv91v9Ry I’m not seeing the preview to play mp3 in browser on desktop
6:51
A new September 8 upload as a guitar-centric recording, derived from the previously uploaded episode 219 voice Part A.
Description:
Guitar, stereo room miked. Has a little voice in middle.
0:00 guitar turned up a little during live broadcast performance at end of show.
2:40 hissy guitar from show lead-in.
3:13 Egodeath Mystery Show intro.
3:30 Diamond Hammer of Interpretation of Myth.
4:04 repeat of the 2:40 from start, end tapered differently else identical.
6:51 End.
Good amp-in-the-room stereo miking. 2 cabs, 2 mics.
I didn’t want the 2.5-minute guitar perf to be only hidden at end of Part A voice recording.
There was a good show finale assertion of the Diamond Hammer of Interpretation of Myth, then Intro voice at end of show just before I did the outro performance, so I kept those short voice segments, and then repeated the 2.5-min guitar recording so I can listen to it.
Original sequence during live-format show:
hissy guitar from start of this tracking session, then 3 parts i did at end of this tracking session which is the end of Part A of the show:
Diamond Hammer of Interpretation of Myth, then
Egodeath Mystery Show intro (at end of show) Aug 30, then
outro show performance 2.5 minutes 2-cab stereo-miked guitar.
“Star 3979 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3”
Download for 1 week starting Sep 5 2022: https://we.tl/t-LdrI5W9rJp v2: artist wrong. v2 Errata: Artist.
Download for 1 week starting Sep 5 2022: https://we.tl/t-jePCGyDRTq – 6:49 v1, superseded done: v1 seems to take off at 1:00 🚀 Replaced first minute w/ end of part f.
“Star 3993 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3” 🚀
this track was test hookups, unbalanced, gaps, all over the place, distorted, a mess. Did lot of production to clean it up though it’s questionable whether this was real performances. It was experimentation/ attempt/ testing/ troubleshooting, so with the production added, it potentially could have high variation/interest.
“Star 4004 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3”
Mostly live performances during middle and end of 2.5-hour scholarly index entries lookup, extracted and overlapped. Even if not all live, the production should add a lot by presenting different pieces arranged together.
Probably using micro mixer as master
“Star 4017 🎸🌌 Rebirth into the Sphere of Shattered Stars.mp3”
source: TASCAM DP6, song “BLENDR1” ch 5/6. Might start w/ 3/4 though… or 7/8.
live-mixing mics and di on two cabs
performed live mic remixing during episode 220; this is extracted from ep220, and added normalizing the level (various slight differences/edits/cleanup).
To play back less bright, I’m using Settings > Music > EQ > Small Speakers (or Treble Reduce)
Errata:
Too bright. I need to mix with bright headphones.
Miking
Broaden Scope of Recording Log/ Hookup Log; Log All Recordings of All Types especially when change hookup
I don’t even have records of which are real performances, and which are just setup/ troubleshooting test runs. I’m having to judge during production – this is disadvantageous.
Keep Recording Log out & open. Enter mic/voice/gtr spk recordings; all decks.
Policy: when do new hookup, take notes eg in the Recording Log.
Policy: In scope for the Recording Log is miking|DI; voice/gtrspk recordings logging. eg right now the counter is at VOX_TK_4033.
Name these type of recordings “voice” or “mic” or “gtrspk”?? “mic” would straddle well voice / gtr; it wouldn’t be wrong by my def except a stretch for DI. Rly it’s anything that’s eq’d for fullrange pbk.
Miking Change: Ribbon as before, then E100 for last parts. gtr: later parts use various combinations including DI & 57’s
ribbon mic & Omni end-address mic, stands kept in place but goosenecks re-aimed.
ribbon mic & Omni end-address mic.
Left: MXL R40 ribbon mic, Eq: -9 0 -2 dB
Right: Electro-Voice 635A, Eq: 0 0 -10.
80Hz bass cut. Later turned off but used e100’s cut.
loft sessions, by Illumination Valve, stereo miked, Marshall Plexi
6-8′ to 2 cabs
Guitar speaker cabs: L: Eminence 2×12 w/ Greenback & V30 R: Blues Jr. w/ Eminence Fender Special Design
Miking Change
Most parts of the episode use same miking as before: ribbon + omni dyn.
The final parts of the episode use Med Dia Cond (e100) + omni-dyn.
L: SWITCHED MIKING near the end of this long set of recordings, replaced ribbon by med-dia cond mic, CAD e100, bass cut. Kept same eq as ribbon: -9 0 -6. R: e-v 635A as before, eq 0 0 -10.
also addl 57s close on gtr spk cabs near end shortly after e100, mixed with DI.
todo: photograph E-100.
CAD E-100
At-will Imagination Exercises = 2 Bowls of Cubensis x 10 Revealing Helpless Puppet Frozen in Rock; that You Don’t Control the Source of Control Thoughts
Here’s an example of the powerful effects from non-drug, at-will imagination exercises:
Hanegraaff argues that Crowley’s non-drug methods of at-will imagination exercises are mighty effective and impressive:
“For example, what to make of Carl Gustav Jung’s descriptions in the famous chapter in his Memories, Dreams, Reflections about his psychotic period, where he describes how at a certain moment he made the conscious decision “to let himself fall” and literally plunged into an underworld that apparently was as real to him as the room from which he had made the plunge ( Jung 1965 )?
“Or what to do with the extreme visions and demonic encounters described in meticulous detail by Aleister Crowley in The Vision and the Voice (Crowley, Neuburg, and Desti 1998)?
“Again, how to think about the many years that a respected intellectual and scientist like John Dee spent in conversation, by means of a medium, with angelic entities in a black mirror, who even taught him a complete “Enochian” language (e.g., Harkness 1999)?
“For me as an academic without any strong talent for visualization, such descriptions were (and remain) staggering testimonies and a genuine puzzle.
“They are so far beyond the range of ordinary experience that one cannot just shrug one’s shoulders and describe them matter-of-factly as if there is nothing remarkable about them.
“They cry out for an explanation of some kind🍄.
[So did New Age spirituality’s totally not psychedelics-based mystic experiencing call out for explanation in 1996 — as Hanegraaff walked right past the “Consciousness Studies” bookcase in the New Age bookstore. HOW MANY TIMES WILL HANEGRAAFF KEEP REPEATING THE EXACT SAME MISTAKE? -cm]
“However, to my considerable surprise, I discovered that many of my students simply did not see the problem.
“Of course one can have such visions,” some would tell me outside the classroom: “I have them all the time!”
And “of course one can see entities in a black mirror and speak with them,” a student with an occultist background told me: “just follow the instructions, and you will see for yourself.”
…
“magicians went through an elaborate curriculum, which typically took years, through which they learned elaborate symbolic systems and systematically trained themselves in developing specific mental faculties such as visualization.
“Luhrmann discovered that by diligently doing the exercises, learning the techniques, and practicing the ritual prescriptions, her own ability to visualize (among other things) developed to an extent that she had not considered possible before.
“The basic process did not seem much different from what happens to a professional athlete, who trains his body to perform feats that are completely unthinkable for the average person.
“Most academics, who have come to excel in their line of work by learning very different sets of mental skills (verbal rather than imaginal, analytic rather than meditative, rational rather than poetic), seem to underestimate how vivid and subjectively convincing can be the experiences of a talented visualizer who has spent years on training his or her mental abilities.”
Hanegraaff describes himself when encountering descriptions of experiencing from psychedelics:
“Modern scholars in general, but classicists and philosophers in particular, are simply not used to paying much attention to these dimensions and are quite capable of ignoring their very presence even when they are looking right at them; even if they are forced to take them into account, they typically do not know what to do with them.”
He said in Entheogenic Esotericism keynote paper that in his 1996 New Age book, he was “naive” in not factoring-in self-censorship due to Prohibition. He hasn’t learned a thing and remains in the same state.
1988 Voice Recording: “1988 Transcendent Knowledge Theory Announcement Party.mp3”
“This chapter discusses “extreme” and “moderate” forms of subjective religious experience.
It starts with an inquiry of the phenomenology of subjective experience, leading to the concept of religious experience in cognitive research.
The next part of the chapter considers the contextual factors that generate and influence religious experience, including beliefs, textual traditions, neuroanatomy, and practices 🍄 🍽.
The lobes theory of religious experience is outlined, which connects social, theological, and ritual variables to cognitive patterns.
The lobes theory is used to continue the discussion of the situation in the Corinthian Church.
The final part of the chapter deals with ancient tours of heaven, using neuroscientific [HEY GUYS JUST KIDDING ABOUT “COGNITIVE”😉, IT’S NEUROREDUCTIONISM ALL THE WAY!] evidence to make sense of their overall structure and particular details.
The neuroscientific two-phase model is applied to the tour of heaven in the Ascension of Isaiah, followed by a brief discussion of other early Jewish and Christian apocalypses.”
Section 7.6: Neuroscientific Explanations of Extreme Religious Experience
FTS looks to reveal some pages: 148, 160-161, 163, 165, 260 (index lists these pages in the entry “entheogens”)
p 160. Section 7.7: Toward a Neuroscientific 🍄 🍽 Model of the Narrative Structure of the Tours – “So-called entheogens (which are substances that are known to facilitate religious experience, such as ergot and psilocybin)”
161 cites McNamara 2009 “Based on empirical data gained from the study of entheogenic substances, we can be confident that entheogens produce religious experiences by activating the same brain circuit that normally handles religious experiences. [what kind of doubletalk b.s. is this? false dichotomy. Entheogens produce religious experiences by activating the brain circuit that produces religious experiences. -cm] “a suspension of intentional states”
Sec 7.8: “At the beginning of the tour [of heaven], an angel takes Isaiah’s hand and leads him upwards. OBE. Feelings of joy, kindness and peacefulness are emphasized.
“The ascent through the firmament means leaving behind earthly reality, which mirrors the envy and struggle of the powers in the firmament.
“Easy penetration of physical boundaries and leaving behind earthly bounds in the early phases of the awakening sequence. [psychedelic newbie easy unearned “nonduality experience” before discovering the control vortex attractor -cm]
“Beautiful singing is heard and glory is seen as Isaiah passes through subsequent levels of heaven. Strong light…
“Difficulties of rising higher are hinted at the air of the seventh heaven, where a voice identifies Isaiah as an intruder.“
14. And he said: “Hear, furthermore, therefore, this also from thy fellow servant: when from the body by the will of God thou hast ascended hither, then thou wilt receive the garment which thou seest.
the garments, and the thrones, and the crowns which are laid up for the righteous, for those who trust in that Lord who will descend in your form.
I feared and trembled
“It is permitted to the holy Isaiah to ascend hither; for here is his garment.”
3. And I asked the angel who was with me and said: “Who is he who forbade me and who is he who permitted me to ascend?”
4. And he said unto me: “He who forbade thee, is he who is over the praise-giving of the sixth heaven.
5. And He who permitted thee, this is thy Lord God, the Lord Christ, who will be called “Jesus” in the world, but His name thou canst not hear till thou hast ascended out of thy body.” [body = mental worldmodel; altered state elevates out from the body representation as a dynamic mental construct – cm]
“How is it that they have received the garments, but have not the thrones and the crowns?”
12. And he said unto me: “Crowns and thrones of glory they do not receive, till the Beloved will descent in the form in which you will see Him descent [will descent, I say][?] into the world in the last days the Lord, who will be called Christ.
they see and know whose will be thrones, and whose the crowns when He has descended and been made in your form, and they will think that He is flesh and is a man.
“Worship Him, for He is the angel of the Holy Spirit, who speaketh in thee and the rest of the righteous.”
37. And I saw the great glory, the eyes of my spirit being open, and I could not thereupon see, nor yet could the angel who was with me, nor all the angels whom I had seen worshipping my Lord.
38. But I saw the righteous beholding with great power the glory of that One.
39. And my Lord drew nigh to me and the angel of the Spirit and He said: “See how it is given to thee to see God, and on thy account power is given to the angel who is with thee.”
40. And I saw how my Lord and the angel of the Spirit worshipped, and they both together praised God.
41. And thereupon all the righteous drew near and worshipped.
42. And the angels drew near and worshipped and all the angels praised.
I’m a Translator Myself: Translation from Academic Bullshiitese to Honest English
Entheogens produce religious experiences by activating the brain circuit that produces religious experiences.
🤯
your a fkking genius!! what a breakthrough! how did you ever solve it?!?!
agghhh kil me SO INSIPID TECHNO B.S. CLUELESS JARGON BLUSTER.
Cognitive Neurobullshiite
Altered States and Intoxication in Ovid’s Metamorphoses (Jonas De Ruyck)
So I might create new pages with flat lists and not edit existing pages that have nested lists at this time. eg I might create Idea Development page 15, which it’s maybe time for anyway.
Affects site map, a pain, I was trying to add latest group of posts (w/o breaking nesting at top):
My latest feeling, discussed at length in latest voice recordings toward Egodeath Mystery Show, is that I shouldn’t omit a star from my book rating unless he makes a cosmic-sized disastrous error, which he does in grandest fashion, while he advocates a scientific basis instead of a religionist mythology basis for the academic historiography of religion.
He has to chronically misuse terms like he did ‘entheogen’, leaving no scientific way of assessing what is or is not entheogenic, but relying on unscientific hearsay.
He has no idea what differentiates entheogen from non-entheogen.
The dividing sword and measuring yardstick is that an entheogen makes you experience being a puppet frozen in rock; you don’t control the source of your control-thoughts.
If the thing in question doesn’t focus on accomplishing that effect, then the thing being assessed is not an entheogen, and it is only an entheogen to the extent to the degree that the thing being scientifically assessed accomplishes the above effect, specifically.
If you agree to any of his set of assertions, that the highest level of the cosmos is number seven, or that level eight is outside the cosmos/heimarmene, you are also having to agree to the nonsensical, anti-scientific, incoherent, necessary implicit corollary assertion that either the fixed stars don’t exist, or else they are to be somehow (impossibly) placed in the moving, planetary sphere of planet number seven.
This is extreme incoherence, and unscientific, and his footnote 114 reveals that his cosmos does not work; he cannot successfully account for the fixed stars.
I ran calculations today, and the there are 2500 or 5000 stars visible to the naked eye, yet in his cosmos model, there are only five little white dots in the night sky.
He removes literally 99.9% of the stars (white dots) from the sky (5000/5005) to try to make his broken cosmos model work.
Generous calculations show no, he only removes 99.7% of the stars from the night sky.
Cosmosgate!
Hanegraaff’s anti-scientific, totally deviant and non-standard mystic cosmos tears itself to pieces and blows up in a giant fireball, leaving asteroids rubble.
The non-metaphorical result is that if you attempt to use the Hanegraaff explanatory model of mystical transformation, you will have control instability and control seizure when in the loose cognitive state.
That is the proof that his model is wrong; and any wrong model automatically is the possibilism-premised mental world model, rather than the only successful model, which is the eternalism, non-branching model per the Egodeath theory, and per Eadwine’s image of non-branching initiation.
This is the Hanegraaff cosmos model of myth, the mystic cosmos model that he invented out of sheer fantasy imagination with no textual basis, and he should read David Ulansey for starters, misusing as he is forced to do the word ‘hypercosmic’, along with completely misusing the word ‘stars’.
Inexcusable, his chronic pattern of grotesquely misusing and misdefining words, rendering them unclear and meaningless, and now ruined and worthless, bringing nothing but cosmic-scale confusion to his readers and to the field of esotericism history.
That’s how bad his baseless, invented, imaginary mystic cosmos is, and so it is fair that I remove 20% of the stars from his rating.
This model is a cosmic-scale disaster.
Childish egoic freewill-premised possibilism-model presumptions and the model of autonomous control agency tries to fantasize and imagine what transcendent knowledge would be, and all they can come up with is: you gain liberty and freedom and power, and wash ego with soap to make it clean, remove the “negative psychological traits” — that’s about the level of his possibilism-premised mystic theory, predictably.
Either you firmly assert the eternalism correct, clear, coherent model of transcendent knowledge, or else by default you end up staying in the same old sky castle of egoic possibilism-premised delusion, despite all the marketing hype.
He is the king of exoteric esotericism — now enhanced with non-drug entheogens!
Thank you for contributing to spiritual understanding of hermetic texts, but the way you have done that has led us into an egoic possibilism-premised ditch, irreverently throwing eternalism/Fate into the Rejected wastebasket, while claiming to be pro-cosmos.
He needs to do some major revision, and he needs to stop this evasive B.S. move of remaining silent about the fixed stars (except for his roundabout, indirectly worded footnote 114 hidden in the Sounding Cosmos music section).
He has to clearly acknowledge that the fixed stars utterly destroy his mystic cosmos model, and that his model is essentially a failure, because it cannot account for the sphere of the fixed stars, which is the central, most important level to account for.
Into his purportedly “science-based historiography of religion”, Hanegraaff indiscriminately interweaves his failed fantasy cosmos that he invented with no textual support of any kind, no citations to back up his frequently asserted claim that planet level seven is the highest cosmos level.
Late antiquity fell into this chutes-and-ladders Ken Wilberian disintegrative regression.
This is why I’ve always been against mystics’ framing of the mythology themes, and I instead take those themes directly as data to fit within my own successful explanatory framework, and I do not give credence to their bad framing of the mythology themes.
When a culture values transcending eternalism more than they value comprehending eternalism, then they cannot comprehend eternalism and they cannot transcend eternalism.
It is a practical necessity that a culture must value comprehending eternalism more than they value transcending eternalism, or else they will lose both, and we ended up with a free-floating cloud of myth themes describing eternalism and transcending eternalism.
The catalog and vocabulary of mythemes became an untethered, free-floating, unmoored cloud, that nobody understood anymore, unlike simpler early antiquity that simply venerated the eternalism revelation, and they now all had mere confusion and nobody really had a clear understanding — because they didn’t want to have just a clear understanding of eternalism; they were more interested in trying to climb above eternalism, and so they lost everything, and we’re left with a cloud of myth themes that nobody actually comprehends, until the cybernetic theory of ego transcendence in 1988 & the entheogen mytheme theory in 2003 placing ego transcendence and then religious myth-analogies on a firm scientific basis of multistate cognitive science, instead of religionism.
Religionism is: trying to make mythology analogies the foundation of our explanatory model, which is what Hanegraaff ends up doing, inventing and fabricating and imagining out of thin air, with no textual evidence, an artificial cosmos that only has five white dots in the night sky.
Hanegraaff has become completely divorced from science and from sensible coherent mystical tradition.
We must throw a red flag amidst the progress he made; he drives us into a ditch with his invented, imaginary non-drug entheogens and bizarrely deviant 7-level cosmos model that requires him to misuse and completely redefine simple, clear-cut words such as ‘stars’.
{billowing cloth} is equivalent to {lifted garment} in Christian art. Control-thoughts are pushed along from outside the personal control domain, like a sail driven by invisible altered-state power.
The figures represent parts of the psyche. Andromeda = female, passive, receptive ego.
Stripped naked, exposed = the altered state lays bare one’s control system.
Chained to the rock amid the waves = sensation of being bound to the block universe while surrounded by perceptual undulation. She can only observe, but cannot move.
The divine hero Perseus rides the winged horse Pegasus.
Flying = altered state sensation of flight.
Horse and rider = steersman and the forward motion along the heimarmene world-line.
Perseus’ cloak billows behind him = the sensation that perception has been stepped up and placed above and beyond the normal seat of perception, the loose cognitive state.
Perseus flies above the snaky sea monster = the snake underneath the horse and rider represents the fixed path of the heimarmene world-line along which the horse and rider travel. The…
Rider on horse approaching snake in tree on right is very common in Greek funerary monuments.
Not sure if there’s an academic article cataloguing examples.
The text of my post looks pretty inadequate from 2022’s vantage point because I don’t point out how many of those pictures show the snake *in a tree*, indicating branching and non-branching.
[yet to be written up: equivalence of snake on rock altar depicted in rock medium & snake in tree sometimes with cut branches or cut trunk. non-branching worldline in block universe -cm]
Check out the “iconography” section of this Wikipedia article:
Strong image. Left/right checks out for donkey’s legs and Christ’s hands.
I sense some puzzle in the two trees, left and right. Why two trees?
On left, youth is in tree, grabbing branches with both hands [holding branching w/ left, breaking off branch with right? -cm], left hand higher. Indicates not yet perfected control system?
[youth phase culminates in initiation depicted by the youth removing branches; after remove branching, adult – see Eadwine row 2 right, below, for degrees of this: left-leg youth then right-leg youth then no-leg adult -cm]
On right, adult (?) [no; beardless -cm] on ground (?) indicating stable basis in eternalism reaches up to grab [remove -cm] branch with right hand only.”
— Cyberdisciple
[removed branches/branching on ground = on the level below the higher controller, on the path -cm]
[Christ’s right hand: the left two fingers branch, the right two fingers don’t branch; held together in contrast -cm]
left fingers branching vs. right fingers non-branching – crop by Cybermonk Sep. 14, 2022left tree branching vs. right tree non-branching, 1 of 4 clover-pairs exceptedleft tree branching vs. right tree non-branching
Church of Saint Martin:
left hand branching
right hand non-branching
red = enlightened youth, in a 3-phase series: left-leg youth then right-leg youth then no-leg adult
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snake in tree ~= youth in tree holding removed branch (or knife for branch removal) in right hand, holding branching with left hand.
Photo credit: Julie M. Brown, used with permissionPhoto credit: Julie M. Brown, used with permissionholds removed branch in right hand
ooh how exciting! titillating! its a SECRIT!! 
The Egodeath theory 
