Generic Post About Ultimate Knowledge

Voice miss transcription

Value of Transcendent Knowledge

Discuss what value is transcendent knowledge; why is transcendent knowledge the most valuable thing?

Newbie Summaries Podcasts

Self-contained newbies summary podcast: Vialgate; summary of the Brown book’s and article’s inconsistent Interpretation of Walburga tapestry Vial

read the two passages

bad influence of Hatsis, does Irvin Rush see too many msh? yes & no.

criteria of proof & compelling evidence. browns proposed committee.

did church assert or deny msh? what does Rush 2nd Ed say?

Self-contained podcast summary reading the pair of Panofsky letters to Wasson

introduction to the subject of assessing Mushrooms in Medieval Church

What is the relationship between this topic and ahistoricity

multiple senses of “the Allegro theory” – Valentinian Gnostics believed Allegro’s theory per Pagels – sets of views per Freke & Pagels, the exoteric vs esoteric systems of thinking; world models

explain for newbies what the importance and relevance of this subject is regarding the full repeal of prohibition of psilocybin and the need to prepare session guides with the suitable required knowledge about passing through the door of control transformation or to snatch and {steal} sacred fire gnosis like a thief, experiencing & probing/ experimenting with the loss of control, without experiencing actual loss of control.

I am well prepared, having treated the subject many times, having spoken about this and written about it and this would be good practice for making an episode that would be aimed at people who didn’t know anything about the ego death Theory or about entheogen scholarship, or about who Wasson is, or who Panofsky is, or who John Allegro is

I would assume no knowledge of the field or the debate or the stupid silly slap-fight that’s well below any kind of a scholarly exchange.

stomach reading jan irvin book’s The Holy Mushroom exhaustive detail about the stupid non-exchange between allegro and Wasson, the utter failure of scholarly engagement, a gigantic scholarly fail.

I am obliged to get the color expensive version of Irvin’s book

, and I don’t know… I can’t deal with it 😞

who wants to go into exhausting detail on that 😵

but I have been willing to read brown

I have yet to really subject Brown to criticism on his reading of the second Panofsky letter , but in any case there is a lot to say about Panofsky’s newly published Exposed second letter ( including a critique of brown trying to read it as asserting Amanita).

I am more interested in the 100% thorough deconstruction of the two Panofsky letters that is my specialty I really doubt I am interested in Young irvin exhausting detail on further back-and-forth analysis between Wasson versus Allegro who cares but I don’t know I haven’t really seen what-all Irvin covers there.

I wrote a five star recommendation of Irvin’s book, the least I could do would be to get a copy of it

I am interested in Brown’s publishing of the second Panofsky letter and doing a summarizing of my deep Critique of Panofsky’s two letters and how Wasson abused them and tried to deceive everyone about them and tried to actually avoid people seeing and following through on the scholarly direction that,

as bad as Panofsky’s arguments are, he at least points us towards scholarly engagement, and Wasson didn’t want that

As banker for the Pope, and as PR engineer/ propagandist for the bank, Wasson couldn’t allow that, and so Wasson had to steer us away from Panofskys letters, (including two attached Mushroom tree pictures and two citations of Brinckmann’s book) because as bad as Panofsky’s scholarly letters’ arguments are, they point everyone towards critical scholarly engagement, and Wasson had to prevent such an investigation & engaging of the questions, not engage and try to win (impossible; certain failure/ losing).

especially because of the newly available second letter from Panofsky to Wasson and because the material is freshly treated by me in voice podcasts, I would like to try to make a self-contained newbie summary discussion and introduction to Allegro Wasson Panofsky retrospective summary, including both of Panofsky’s letters

and reading this would be a Prof. Jerry Brown 2019 response/ retrospective summary incorporating Brown’s latest work regarding Wasson and Allegro Panofsky this would be a summary of my 2006 Plaincourault article, updated to cover and summarize and introduce the pair of Panofsky letters

I would read aloud and discuss the entirety of both of been of his letters, including his two attached mushroom tree pictures and including his citation of Brinkman’s book;

I would describe exactly what you are supposed to look for in Brinkman’s book

you are supposed to look for compelling evidence that if you lay out the Mushroom Trees in chronological order, you find a definite tangible development from Italian pine tree to mushroom shape, expressed in terms of the development of templates

it’s all about the templates, and their development from Pine tree

be sure to say The word “pine tree” 10 times as much as you say the word Mushroom tree.

whenever any normal person would say mushroom tree, you must be sure to instead say “the development of the pine tree”.

and never focus on the finished artwork, which is clearly Mushroom Trees

instead, you have to always obsess and turn the spotlight on to the alleged hypothetical templates

it’s all about the templates

please ignore the mushroom tree artwork, and instead fill your head with the development of templates, specifically from pine trees <– look here

these are pine tree templates

☑️🌲🎄👍

do not think of mushroom Trees

🚫🍄🌳

You must instead think of pine tree templates

it’s all about the templates

it’s all about the pine trees

it has nothing whatsoever to do with the art products which we are given, which are mushroom trees

You must participate in the Panofsky project of converting Mushroom trees into pine trees

the input is mushroom trees, and the output of the process is pine trees

you must speak about “the development process of templates” for the purpose of setting up an actual present-day (1952) development process to develop mushroom trees (not pine tree templates), to explain away our problematic mushroom trees, by “developing” them into Italian pine trees, instead.

you have to use wording about “pine tree template development” in order to accomplish, in actuality, developing mushroom trees– thus forming a process in order to develop mushroom trees into pine trees, thus explaining them away.

what we have in actuality as far as a development process is not in fact the development process of pine tree templates for which the “finished product” is templates that look like mushrooms

but rather what Panofsky is doing in fact is to engineer and construct and set up a process a development process which can successfully take as input finished artwork mushroom tree products and then at the end of his development process which Panofsky (the most influential art historian) has fabricated and engineered.

the output of the Panofsky development process is to develop mushroom tree artwork into pine trees, or pine tree templates that look like Italian pine trees:

mushroom in, pine tree out

that is the actual “development process” which we have – or which Panofsky has sneakily created, rather.

Egodeath Yahoo Group posts vs WordPress weblog

I need to experiment at the ego death Yahoo Group WordPress weblog including bridging some of the mobile posting technique of voice transcription that I used then

that format was a “cast in stone” format, and then I could post follow up clarifications, but I could not edit, so any sloppy writing or experiments were permanent so that encouraged clean writing writing

but there are always pros and cons because I can edit some thing that I have already posted here that encourages leading edge experimentation and being freed from the burden / restriction of having to only post cleaned-up material.

Also consider that WordPress has a mobile app and there is sufficient support for voice dictation so this gives a lot of different ways and flexibility for contributing

I think I have now figured out how to avoid losing data when switching between WordPress mobile app versus desktop, what sync-states to check for and beware of.

I miss the threading of Egodeath Yahoo Group, not sure how to carry those threads forward, would require some experimenting.

Both platforms have pretty serious challenge with discoverability of excellent content; drinking the ocean through a straw. It is hard to remember that all Egodeath Yahoo Group postings to February 14, 2004 (start = June 2001) are duplicated at Egodeath.com, rearranged optimized for thread per page, and unfortunately lacking date stamps.

As far as mytheme History of mythemes Decoding, entheogen history scholarship, Transcendent Knowledge development in that transitional period from Core theory to myth & history, it’s good that that is double-posted at the Max Freakout archive of Egodeath Yahoo Group plus egodeath.com –

One place ( the Egodeath Yahoo Group / wordpress site ) has valuable timestamps date stamps; and the egodeath.com website has threading per subject, one thread per webpage

I could certainly add a degree of cross-linking between those two perspectives; that would probably be valuable and useful.

later Egodeath Yahoo Group posts after Feb 14 2004 – 2019(?) were very low discoverability at Yahoo Groups website; now they are probably higher discoverability and readability and linkability than ever, now that they are at wordpress, though it does have its issues of some formatting glitch with the > greater than sign, indicating a previous person’s post embedded in a reply post.

Newbie Introduction Summaries

as Max Freakout has said and like Cyberdisciple described upon viewing egodeath.com prior to the main article, comic book summaries are always needed, and someone suggests that for the Egodeath Mystery Show voice podcast, like episode 28 of the Transcendent Knowledge podcast covering the basics of the core Egodeath Theory:

1985-1997 [analogical but not mythological] psychedelic eternalism with dependent control, switching to that in the loose cognitive association state from the initial mental model of literalist ordinary-state possibilism with presumed autonomous control.

Intellectual autobiography, history of Egodeath Theory Development

Core theory 1985-1998, Mytheme theory 1999-2022

The best I can figure, most likely, in 1998 I did a significant 3/4 of it working on publishing the phase 1, Core theory, and only 1/4 of 1998 working with the very beginnings of my phase 2, Mytheme theory.

in 1999 in my new study/library I definitely 100% had the tangible experience of working in new topics.

even if I can now perceive the roots of Hellenistic mysteries study and he historicity in 1998, I was not experiencing those as massive new areas of research in 1998, but probably what I was experiencing was intensive publishing work on the core theory at the website.

1998 was a year of not having a study/library (= new research), but entirely working on the website, to publish the existing material, not investigating new horizons of research at that time.

you might imagine that I was doing leading edge research on the web (in Phase 2 topics: myth, ahistoricity, entheogen scholarship) in 1998 – but that is unrealistic, because the web had poor content at that time; it was nowhere near as good as the librarys and bookstores.

my website which i was building out in 1998 was the only decent thing on the web related to such topics but it had only technical, Philosophy, Core, phase 1 content then. in contrast, my involvement in these phase 2 topics was really puny compared to my massive publishing of my core one phase 1 material in 1998

it’s only a 1999 when my phase 2 work really obviously surrounded me in a physical tangible way with my new study/library and definitely accumulating and reading new kinds of books on new subjects.

here’s a really good way to think of it:

1995-1996: Phase 1, Core theory development

1997-1998: Phase 1, Core theory publishing

1999-2005: Phase 2, Mytheme theory debelopment

2006-2007: Phase 2, Mytheme theory publishing

That way of treating 1998 together with 1997 really works very well, because I do not think of those years as developing either phase 1 or phase 2 theory – but that doesn’t mean I wasn’t doing anything, just because I wasn’t developing theory; I was actually publishing theory in 1998 ( and very tangibly in 1997 ie summary outline at P Cyb’a)

The problem/ the reason why I have had difficulty in assigning 1998 is because I’ve had too narrow of the concept of the word ‘developing’; I probably did a huge amount of Core, phase 1 theory “development” in 1998, in the sense of publishing; the website.

hell , everything i did from feb 1988 through like 1998 could be called “mere publishing” of my oct 1985-1987 breakthrough of jan 1988.

compare the year 1988 (starting after January 11 ) compared to the year 1998:

you could equally treat those years, all those years after the breakthrough, as mere “publishing”, as merely writing up the breakthrough insight and change of perspective or formation of the mental model with its basic pieces that I pieced together in the first days of the year waiting for the quarter to begin, jan 11, 1988.

given that I published the outline summary of the core theory in February 1997 well you know I felt like I was still trying to write my article even into the year 2001 I still felt that I was trying to write my core theory article I was not yet trying to incorporate Mythology so an interesting question is when did I first start thinking in terms of incorporating Mythology into my article for the journal of transpersonal psychology

when did I shift my vision for my Jan 1988 article for the Journal of Transpersonal Psychology so as to incorp religious mythology?

the cybernetic theory of ego transcendence: the actual nature of ego transcendence is block univ no-free-will cybernetic noncontrol w mental model transformation in the loose cog assn state

I was working on that article ever since January 1998 trying to make it converge instead of blow up.

incorporating religious mythology was the key that enabled me to have a direction that would converge rather than just a giant pile of writing, kind of an unconstrained and kind of undirected pile of writing, all about the core theory with its 12 principles – instead of my later, successful 4 principles or four quadrants.

when did I finally allow in mythology

maybe The same time as I announced the maximal entheogen theory of religion: 2002.

Maybe my anger at the failure of the Ruck Committee to deliver any useful goods other than the worthless bottom of the barrel Amanita undesirable Mushroom Gave me the direction to forcefully embrace Mythology and show you you idiots here’s what you need to be doing with this religious mythology and the good kind of mushrooms and the ego death Theory ; let me show you how to put the pieces together, you fools

in any case I became genuinely hopeful and interested in mythology and enthusiastic about identifying how religious mythology describes and depicts and the artwork depicts my ego death core theory and corroborates and confirms it because since there’s no historical Jesus to confirm and approve my theory now I need religious mythology to do that instead and so that is how my scope and vision

for my 1988 January article changed from the core theory only to open up and finally be able to reach a closure and start finally converging towards a directed fulfillment and completion of initiation by explaining Religious Mythology and Mystery religions and not just being a modern science directionless explanation of the true nature of ego Transcendence in terms of block universe experiencing

I do think I could have done that and written my main article about that without any religious Mythology , but in 2002 adding in the whole field of psychedelic myth,

I felt like by including religious mythology in my article, I could include a proof that my core theory is correct and true and is supported, given that Mr. Historical Jesus ain’t there to give a stamp of approval, I’m going to have to take another approach at getting the New Testament to corroborate my core theory since …

1998 if anything was the year of discovering no Mr Paul/Mr Peter/Mr Jesus, or maybe the year of trying to get the new testament to corroborate my core theory, and starting to realize that wasn’t going to work, and I had to better understand the genre and nature of the New Testament, ie in terms of religious Mythology.

And I felt like I had failed I was never able –

in 2002 , I was still trying and failing to write my original article as planned (lacking religious mythology)

The climactic book that came out then was the Jesus Mysteries particularly noting its attempt its wish and it’s unfulfilled wish to cover visionary plants which was not permitted by the publisher but clearly it fit very well and I’m trying to remember why I met with Freke & Gandy but I’d imagine that it had much to do with this question:

I was highly interested in asking Freke & Gandy about this passage on entheogens, and they were highly interested in discussing what happened with that and how they were blocked by the publisher.

Thanks to my 1998 website work, they were able to read my theory and my postings at the Jesus Mysteries discussion group around that time.

after that, I read Elaine Pagles first two books as well as her Gnostic gospels book which I learned about because of freaking Gandys book the Jesus Mysteries is based on Pagels’ book The Gnostic Gospels. You could say that I got from the book the Jesus Mysteries and Elaine an Pagels first three books in 2002 successfully gave me the confirmation that I wanted that I had assumed I would get from the New Testament from Mr. Jesus and Mr. Paul

but I essentially got that confirmation of my Core theory from Timothy Freke & Elaine Pagels instead of from Mr Jesus & Mr Paul.

and that really effectively explains why I changed my concept of my article for the Journal of Transpersonal Psychology so as to incorporate and integrate this other leg , so that the two legs cross-correlate each other

my core theory side-by-side with religious Mythology and the whole set of ideas which Elaine Pagels Called Gnostics Against Orthodox, and wjich Freke & Gandy relabeled as esoteric versus exoteric – Two contrasted entire sets of views, regarding no free will and mythology and personal control agency and visionary plants.

my core theory can explain all this stuff and that’s very interesting, a lot of interesting material, a lot of interesting purpose and application

so I discovered through Freke & Gandy I discovered the application of my core theory, and thus I discovered a distinction between my core theory, and that’s how my core theory (perceived as such) was born, and how my treatment of myth Theme theory was born.

answers the excellent question:

when was the distinction between my Core theory versus Mytheme theory first perceptible? Creating the myth Theme theory was born out of it was an outcome following the aftermath of my failure to get Mr. Jesus and Mr. Paul and that sort of a conception of the New Testament to corroborate my core theory which was not called the core theory in 1998;

my Phase 1, Core theory at that time 1998-2002 (prior to discovering and constructing my distinct, subsequent Phase 2, Mytheme theory), was called the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence, with no mytheme theory on the horizon in mind yet (except for Gnosis magazine & interpreting rock lyrics to map them as descriptions of this theory domain).

now, in 2002, by adding Freke & Pagels, & Heinrich & Entheos Journal, I was able to reach closure and make my core theory accomplish something definite that proves the merit of my theory, because of its ability to make sense out of and serve as an explanatory framework to explain successfully Religious Mythology.

Heading

I keep debating & flipping back-and-forth on where to assign 1998, a transitional year, and the equally strong third argument is to split 1998 in half and include it in both phases.

there are several moderate reasons arguing for phase 1, and several moderate reasons for phase 2 assignment of 1998. I don’t think I did substantial work on the theory that year or so there’s not much to work with in trying to assign that year – though I may have done a lot of website work, of publishing my phase 1 theory that year

periodization debate: is 1998 The end of publishing the phase 1 Core theory or is it the beginning of turning attention to the myth Theme theory?

in 1998, did I do more work on the Phase 1, Core theory, or more work on the Phase 2, Mytheme theory??

I speculate and conjecture that I did more work writing up my website of the core theory including rock lyrics mapping to the altered state mental model transformation, And I was only just starting to turn my attention more to Hellenistic Mysteries and ahistoricity – but I don’t know that I had any entheogen scholarship books that year yet.

1997 is definitely part of my Core theory era , because February, I published the summary of the core, – though I probably had my vision of non-Branching labyrinth that year, which is phase 2

Similarly I feel confident about 1999 it definitely was not core theory and it definitely was phase 2 Mytheme theory.

So I have a solid argument for assigning 1997 to phase 1 , and assigning 1999 to phase 2.

most debatable and unclear and hazy is the year 1998 , transitional year:

on what basis do I assign 1998 to phase 1 versus phase 2 , when I can’t really remember and would have to investigate that year as part of my “intellectual autobiography” project i’ve been doing ever since hiatus starting 2008

the first quarter of 2008 , I realized I had severe amnesia : how the hell did I get here??

My intensive work of the period 1988 through 1997 and then 1999 through 2007 meant that when I switched gears in 2008 January, I had lost all track of how I had gotten here.

so 2008 was largely occupied with reconstructing my history and timeline.

my hiatus from posting the Egodeath Yahoo Group was jan 2008- ~Sep 2011.

One cheat that I sometimes do is I just omit 1998 from my periodization. Or equivalently, include the year in both phases.

I wish I could treat the year 1998 as more of a positive, productive, determinate thing instead of treating it like a null point, a turning point, nothing but a transition an empty nowhere, neither here nor there

really that’s probably doing a great disservice to that important year of 1998

subtracting 1998 from my life regarding Egodeath Theory Development would probably be a massive huge loss

I should really learn to treat 1998 (re: Egodeath theory devmt) as a positive thing.

what if I could have a summary of what I accomplished each month of 1998?

I would probably be singing a different tune.

and I think that that’s really the strongest argument for actually omitting 1998 from my periodization. It feels kind of dishonest including this year where as far as I know I didn’t really I was on hiatus I think it was more hiatus year but I

I have no qualms about including the (public) hiatus years of 2008 through 2010 in Phase 2 , And the content of those years is about as equally under-mapped as the year 1998.

I was not doing very much Egodeath Theory work during 1998 compared to other years as far as I can recollect – Maybe drug policy reform that year, not certain.

1998 was a huge bridge-crossing year. it feels like neither work on my phase 1, Core theory, nor work on my phase 2, Mytheme theory.

As if it was a year in which I detached from phase 1 in order to subsequently attach to phase 2.

But since I am not certain, I think it is very wise to assume that I was doing massive very important work on my egodeath site publishing my core theory that year, which would make 1998 a core theory year, not a phase 2, Mytheme theory year.

I should probably just split the difference and say and make the claim as if June 1998 equals phase 1 and July 1998 equals phase 2 🥴

an argument for ending the “Core theory” development at 1997, and beginning the metaphor mytheme Entheogens Theory in 1998

it seems a no-brainer even though you can complicate things by tracing lyric Decoding since 1991 or even 1988

and you can place the reading of gnosis magazine in the 1990s and reading the fundamentalist Dave Hunt books which veer into the mythological around 1994

And a vision of the labyrinth non-branching, in that important transition year academic year 1996 to 1997

in February 1997 posted the summary outline of the core theory, leaving the rest of 1997 unclear, but trying to remember which small few books- maybe tech gnosis by Erik Davis, and continuing to struggle to write the main article, which was finally accomplished in 2006 due to adding Mythology Religious Mythology

so in a way, I never wrote my article as conceptualized for Journal of Transpersonal Psychology as intended since January 1988. I hadn’t added Freke & Pagels, & Heinrich & Entheos journal, yet, To serve as some thing to be explained successfully by my core theory and thus serving as the confirmation that I had expected to get from Mr. Jesus and Mr. Paul

this really can be seen as the form in which I finally got that confirmation that I was looking for in 1998.

you could fairly say that 1998 was the year in which I set about to get confirmation of the Core theory, which I had summarized successfully in a complete core way outline in 1997

given that I published my successful core outline of the theory in 1997, now in 1998, I need to get the New Testament or religious mythology or something to corroborate my theory

and here is how you would put the year 1998 into the phase 2 era rather than the phase 1 core era, because in 1998, my main need or pursuit, as far as pursuing something new (while at the same time continuing to publish what I had achieved, my core theory) , my main pursuit was to go about finding confirmation in the mystery religions, and finding confirmation of the …

my main experience I remember of 1998 is not the experience of publishing (even if that’s literally what I did ) but rather, it was the experience of looking for the New Testament /Mr. Jesus/ Mr. Paul to corroborate this distinct thing, the cybernetic theory of ego transcendence.

so look very closely at the two things here: on the one hand, you have my theory (the cybernetic theory of ego transcendence ) ; and on the other hand, you have my looking for {a way to corroborate my theory}

and here you have the seed or root or beginnings of the distinction between my “phase 1, Core theory” versus my “phase 2, Mytheme theory”.

phase 2 would be the corroboration of my core theory, by virtue of the successful ability of my cybernetic theory of ego transcendence to explain this other, distinct thing; the New Testament, which is Mr. Jesus, which is Mr. Paul, which is: esoteric Religious Mythology.

My 1997 summary outline at Principia Cybernetica website was a stopgap, since every time I tried to write the main article for JTP, it blew up too big; expanding instead of converging.

like when you know that your efforts are taking you in a direction that’s, the harder you try, the more you fail.

I probably created my more real websites in 1997, containing the core theory so I should not only think of February 1997 posting at the cybernetics website but also creating my real website which would become egodeath.com containing the core theory is what I was doing through 1997.

then as I see it with the big change of context in 1998 I went to get Jesus to sign off on my cybernetic theory of ego transcendence so in the graduate library I looked up Christian Mushroom and found John King’s book commentary on John Allegro

And I’m trying to remember the context of finding entheogen scholarship about 1998, but I’m sure it must have to do with Amazon: the improving selection at Amazon and improving content there and more books being written and becoming available there.

1998 was a transitional year, and I was focused on putting together my knowledge at my websites so far – but also very much I felt that I had because I had finished the technical content of my core theory which I simply called “my theory” (the cybernetic theory of ego transcendence) (not yet “the core theory”), it’s true that I was still doing my project of writing my article stating what that technical theory is, but also, I was looking for how to have religion prove or confirm my theory (the cybernetic theory of ego transcendence; “the Core theory”, as I now distinguish Versus the ability of that theory to successfully explain something else, the domain of religious Mythology so as to cross-correlate and cross-corroborate the two distinct parts or legs.

My 1997 theory, and distinctly my 1998 effort to corroborate my 1997 theory, eventually became:

my phase 1, Core theory, and my phase 2, Mytheme theory.

my leading edge pursuit of looking in new directions my actual research beginnings of a kind of a research in 1998 genuinely genuinely the start of my phase 2, Mytheme theory research & development.

1998 was the year when I tangibly converted my knowledge into websites more than doing new research and development.

I really think it was 1999 when I settled in and reassembled my library and my study yes it seems that 1997 and 1998 we’re heavy website years while not having a personal study library and at the start of those years I published the summary of the core theory and then die then I spent much of those two years making more bigger major websites summarizing my knowledge so far rather than yeah

Rather than yet beginning a new phase of idea development in myth Theme religious Mythology and History and entheogen scholarship. & ahistoricity – 1999 seems to be the year for that when I reassembled my a study and library and then my first memories of that sweet fresh clean set up was full-fledged beginning reading entheogens scholarship books.

And then I recall doing more ahistoricity work in my subsequent library study 2003 through 2007. What I remember in my 1999 through 2003 study/ library is entheogen scholarship then religious mythology.

then in my next study/library, 2003-2007, I did some more work reading Mythology and confirming that the books of church fathers and Astrotheology and Esotericism contain the same themes of visionary plants and altered state and mythology and no free will , but my focus was a little on more ahistoricity and reformed theology and philosophy of science then, more than on entheogen scholarship & mythology. it’s hard to say because I had I was sweeping across 20 different subjects during all 3 periods:

1988 through sep 1996

1999 through mid-2003

mid-2003 through 2007

I should be posting this discussion at the Egodeath Yahoo Group thread called intellectual autobiography history or history of my intellectual biography

it’s one of those things where if you look too closely at it, the simplistic, artificially clarifying narrative falls apart and becomes problematic, and I start to see more mythology (supposedly characterizing my later, Phase 2 work) within my earlier, Phase 1 “Core theory” period.

And then if you say that description of mental models in terms of possibility Branching is core theory you could claim that I did development of the Core theory core theory in Nov 2020 – March 2021, pull along by my work in mythology, Mapping Mythology back to the Core egodeath theory and then adjusting the core theory to make it fit that mapping better

Phase 1/ Core theory=

psychedelic eternalism (incl “noncontrol”)

= 1985-1998

Phase 2/ Mytheme theory =

analogical psychedelic eternalism

= 1999-2007-2022

I am inclined to see the two years after posting my outline summary of core theory in February 1997 framing the remainder of 1997 and the year 1998 were sort of writing up my core theory in the form of a (bigger) website. I feel that I was writing my core theory still into 1998 and I strongly picture of the books strange fruit and the long trip and ahistoricity I do remember in the 1999 or 2000 period, My first spate of finding such books and scrambling to adjust my thinking, well before 2006. when I picture my 1999 study/library I am thinking of full on entheogens scholarship which contains Mythology very much the Jesus Mysteries book and strange fruit would be two very good representative books to represent the 1999 through 2001 and Ruck book textbook on Greek Mythology.

I definitely was reading entheogen books and ahistoricity in 1999, and that makes 1999 definitely phase 2 Mytheme theory era , not the phase 1 Core theory era.

in contrast I know that I was more publishing and writing up my existing core theory knowledge in 1997 and 1998 as far as I know and as far as I can remember and deduce since I don’t have

I only have one definite memory of I definitely was given a book on the Hellenistic Mysteries in 1998, and by that token (by an art history person), and based on that, you could claim that I started my phase 2 in 1998

and in 1998 I believe I was still trying to get Jesus to confirm my cybernetic theory of ego Transcendence which is core theory phase 1.

So there is not very much material to work with in trying to assign 1998 to fit within the end of phase 1 core theory publishing, versus the beginning of phase 2 Mytheme theory.

I would have to investigate some dates to really prove but I think that the strongest case is that:

in 1999, my phase 2 was very tangibly very definitely started, whereas 1998 is kind of a question mark, with just the beginnings of questioning historicity and Hellenistic mystery religions which, strangely, are not actually covered within Gnosis magazine/ theosophy worldview.

Jesus from Outer Space – Carrier 2020

voice recordings briefly available my readaloud with side discussions: find “carrier” near https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/03/09/idea-development-page-13/#Egodeath-Mystery-Show-episode-162

Carrier built on Doherty:

x https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/06/05/earl-doherty-jesus-puzzle-neither-god-nor-man-ahistoricity-myth/

Here’s the Deal: Tell the Story of “The Church Contains Psilocybin”, to Get Repeal of Psilocybin Prohibition

Voice Recording Based on this Posting

June 6, 2022 note – voice recording based on reading this page turned out great. Added history of the Egodeath theory in relation to the field of entheogen scholarship. Tight 45:00 episode. Download for 1 week (or listen in browser using “preview” feature) from:
Page: Idea Development page 13, section:
Egodeath Mystery Show Episode 157 – Message to Entheogen Scholars – recorded June 6, 2022
https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/03/09/idea-development-page-13/#Egodeath-Mystery-Show-Episode-157

“Mushroom-Trees” in Christian Art (Samorini)
Figure 20: Column 1: Amanita Mushroom Trees, Column 2: Psilocybin Mushroom Trees
https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/mushroom-trees-in-christian-art-samorini/#Figure-20

Figure 20 from article ““Mushroom-Trees” in Christian Art” by Giorgio Samorini
Journal issue: Eleusis, n.s., 1:87-108, 1998
The source file, original article:
https://www.samorini.it/doc1/sam/sam-alberifungo-1998.pdf

Dear entheogen scholars,

Heres The Deal: Tell Story of “the Church Contains Psilocybin mushrooms”, to Get the full Repeal of Psilocybin Prohibition.

as long as you hang onto your addiction to the self-defeating story that the Church denies and excludes mushrooms, as long as you keep telling that story, you’ll never get psilocybin Prohibition repealed

and so here’s the deal:

You guys, you scholars need to change your stupid tune and sing a different tune and start singing the same tune as Brown and I lead, follow the songleaders

you need to tell the positive, Church-positive story, that the mainstream middle ages Church normal practice was heavily Psilocybin Mushrooms and then when you do that then the way is finally cleared to get truth and spiritual truth and get full repeal of Psilocybe in Prohibition

that’s the deal

you cannot continue your addiction to this negative story

You cannot continue to demonize the Church and tell the false lying story claiming that the church’s history has no mushrooms

because as long as you tell that false story, you are supporting and advocating the prohibition of Psilocybin mushrooms

and nobody gives a 💩 about amanita

so stop paying attention to amanita; it’s the weed of entheogen scholarship ; the common reject worthless weed that is just part of the problem

GROW UP and stop concretistic fixation on 🍄 and stop telling the infantile childish self-defeating negativism about the church

stop demonizing the church

break your addiction to that story

stop telling that story and start telling the exact opposite story, of the church contained and embraced and affirmed Psilocybin Mushrooms in the middle ages

Stop telling the story about only the early sects before the Church had “Amanita”

Stop telling a story that is centered on and limited to amanita

you should switch to telling the story that is centered on psilocybin, that treats Amanita as a curiosity, of a jumbo gigantic thousand times the mass and 1000 times the size of a 1 inch Cubensis

Stop your amanita addiction

and stop your addiction to early Christianity before the church

stop your addiction to ignoring Psilocybin

stop your addiction to denying the prominent presence of psilocybin in the middle ages church, inside of the church, within the church

And start being strategic about full repeal of psilocybin Prohibition

your dumb stupid story about, your false story you would be-

you’re more interested in demonizing the Church, than repealing Psilocybin!!

that’s my most cutting and scathing accusation of you guys and your self-defeating addiction to a false narrative that you’re idiotically telling

– Cybermonk & Eadwine

Mushrooms in Art https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/nav/#flagship-Mushrooms-Greek-Christian-Art

Earl Doherty’s Book Jesus Puzzle/ Neither God Nor Man, About Ahistoricity (Jesus Myth Theory)

Jesus: Neither God Nor Man:
The Case for a Mythical Jesus

Earl Doherty’s 2009 book Jesus: Neither God Nor Man: The Case for a Mythical Jesus, an expanded, 800-page edition of the 1999 book The Jesus Puzzle: Did Christianity Begin with a Mythical Christ? Challenging the Existence of an Historical Jesus

x https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Neither-God-Case-Mythical-ebook/dp/B00772ZH8Y

june 5, pm note:

fwiw, ep153 parts a-c have lots of entheogen scholarship instead of ahistoricity 🥺 – great progress, solid commentary analysis (improved, useful, clarified critiques) fwiw. remainder has (will contain) mostly Doherty book readings im sure, parts d-i def ghi.

parts a & b & c all are 50% my usual devmt / restatements about entheogen scholarship, vialgate ramifs, Ruck school as functionally pushing the Minimal (not Moderate) entheogen theory of religion.

mobile app picks up edits made on desktop (instead of evil data-loss) IF you back out of site & restart app 🤨 (that wasnt the bug today)

Original posting, 2:32 a.m. June 5, 2022

Earl Doherty’s website equivalent of the Jesus Puzzle book, has summaries & articles:
http://www.jesuspuzzle.com/jesuspuzzle/index.htm

About the 2nd Edition of his book, and about entheogen scholarship, the first 3 of my .mp3 file voice recordings out of ~10 are available to download, from Idea Development page 13. The remaining ~7 .mp3 files are close to ready for exporting/uploading, as of Noon June 5, 2022.

Page: Idea Development page 13
Section in page: Egodeath Mystery Show Episode 153 – Unsystematic Theology (Earl Doherty book Neither God Nor Man) – June 5, 2022 (first 3 .mps’s are available)
https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/03/09/idea-development-page-13/#Egodeath-Mystery-Show-Episode-153

In this set of recordings, I discuss Earl Doherty’s (2005 &) 2009 book about Paul’s complete and self-sufficient high Christ shutting out Mr. Historical Jesus.

Episode 153 part a = Ep153a Unsystematic Theology – the 2nd half of this mp3 file is entheogen scholarship (Spot the Secret 🍄 Alchemy) critique.

Doherty tells us what Mr. Historical Authentic Paul actually conceptualized about Christ that has no place for Mr. Mundane Jesus.

Esoteric Christianity Books: Pagels; Freke & Gandy
https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/12/01/esoteric-christianity-books-pagels-freke-gandy/

Not a direct link, but easy to remember:
http://jesuspuzzle.com

Update, 9 a.m. June 5 2022

Parts 1 & 3 (a & c) of my mp3s have more entheogen scholarship than realized.

like with my recent feb-may 2022 art analysis, this recording commentary from 7 days ago feels already outdated! superseded.

I’ve made such rapidly significant development the past few days of idea development, these recent statements have already been surpassed. eg my analysis of John Rush 2nd edition book’s blurb of February 22, 2022 – my commentary in part c mp3 is BEFORE my Idea Development page 13‘s color highlighting analysis which PROVED 2 things:

1) John Rush has grotesquely lopsided emphasis of Amanita single-plant fallacy at the direct expense of Psilocybin.

2) John Rush has grotesquely lopsided emphasis of early pre-Church Christian sects at the direct expense of any true narrative (per Brown) of the heavy PRESENCE Psilocybin (and Amanita) mushrooms WITHIN the mainstream Church in the middle ages.

My vocal discussion here is the direct source that blossomed into my color highlighting PROOF at my Idea Development page 13 the following day. so this recording part C demonstrates successful breakthrough idea development.

Ep153c Unsystematic Theology – Per parts a & c of Episode 153, so far Episode 153 seems solidly 50% about leading edge entheogen scholarship critique and leading edge field development, in addition to Jesus Myth Theory (Ahistoricity) per Earl Doherty’s spiritual-Christ replacement for / shutout of historical gospel lifestory Jesus.

Allegro’s theory in Sacred Mushroom book is that Christianity started from The Mushroom rather than was started by Mr. Historical Jesus.

Most Importantly, What Does Thomas Hatsis Say About Doherty’s Historical Research?

We need the verdict from a Real Historian:

What does Thomas Hatsis say about Earl Doherty’s historical research, since Hatsis has become the #1 follower of John Allegro now that Jan Irvin has exited this field of research?

Surely the great, exemplary historian Hatsis must have an opinion on this central Allegro-related question & field.

Brown disagrees with Allegro re: ahistoricity, what does Brown’s rival Hatsis say on this matter?

Ruck Hoffman Winkelman Articles

Someone oughtta look into Psilocybin mushrooms in ancient mystery religions.

M. Hoffman, editor for three decades, Ruck 🍄 scholars committee & Entheos Journal of Spot the 🍄, in his article/chapter Entheogens (Psychedelic Drugs) in Ancient Mystery Religions, 2015/2018

voice recording thats commentary on articles this evening – at idea devmt pg 13: https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/03/09/idea-development-page-13/#Egodeath-Mystery-Show-Episode-156

Ep156b Errata: 35:00 – I say twice “i saw online the first Entheos article, Effluents of Deity“, i meant Conjuring Eden (link below)

The present webpage/ posting summarizes, afterwards, the points discussed/ developed in the voice recordings. Text summary should be able to replace listening.

i developed interesting and more effective critiques of the aggressive “secret suppressed Amanita alchemy paradigm” that’s dogmatically pushed simultaneously with Ruck school presenting (silently) psilocybin art.

M Hoffman – https://www.academia.edu/44235520/Entheogens_Psychedelic_Drugs_and_the_Ancient_Mystery_Religions_Mark_A_Hoffman

2004 v1 of same?? https://www.academia.edu/31667047/Entheogens_Psychedelic_Drugs_and_Shamanism

Totally bizarre situation: I rail against M Hoffman for writing in his 2015/2018 toxicology article “no one has looked into psilocybin in ancient mystery cults, but I argue that they should.” eg Ep156b 40:00

WHAT HAVE YOU AND RUCK BEEN DOING FOR 47 YEARS SINCE 1975?

file in the irvin Brain database under “sh!t that doesnt add up

why doesnt the entheos ruck school acknowledge the psilocybin mushroom in Mithras’ leg, but twists this tauroctony into serving as Amanita evidence instead??

something seems oddly backwards in Ruck school’s extreme pushing of The Mushroom 🍄 at the expense of never acknowledging Psilocybin in their text narrative

Sharply differentiate between an entheogen scholar’s art evidence base vs their narrative about the 99.99%-100% absence of mushroom knowledge within the normal Church.

I proved John Rush = single plant 🍄 fallacy narrative book blurb second edition, regardless of whether his art data base includes some % psilocybin. regardless of if he writes, one measly time, “plants & fungi” – in between his relentless hammering on, all the time, asserting “The Holy Mushroom 🍄 Amanita“.

see my idea devmt pg 13 re: 2nd edition Feb 2022 John Rush my blue vs pink highlighting of key words of his book blurb.

I just found two days ago that Irvin’s book Astrotheology and Shamanism is explicitly to broaden Allegro’s theory.

Why Hatsis mistakes Brown & Cybermonk as striving to follow and broaden Allegro’s theory: bc Hatsis is only aware of the Irvin/Rush framework aka “the Holy Mushroom 🍄 theory”.

Hatsis needs to address Ruck school pushing a framework that’s almost the same as Irvin Rush.

Hatsis needs to realize that Samorini/ Cybermonk/ Brown are against the Rush & Ruck “suppressed 🍄” school(s).

The Ruck school’s narrative never mentions Psilocybin. It’s always Amanita, re Christianity. When you show them Psilocybin art, they write “mushroom” or stay silent. See Conjuring Eden article, it never mentions Psilocybin, even for Canterbury Psalter images.

Its not Hatsis’ fault for confusion re The Holy Mushroom 🍄 Theory; the Ruck school and the Allegro/ Irvin/ Rush school all have Amanita madness, seeing Amanita everywhere and seeing Psilocybin nowhere.

Brown actually sees more mushrooms than the Irvin/Rush narrowing, mushroom-excluding framework allows. Brown is a more ardent advocate than them. Irvin excludes Psilocybin and excludes The Mushroom 🍄 from the Church.

Irvin/Rush’s art evidence database contradicts their scorched-earth narrative.

Ruck at least covers this by his story that The Mushroom 🍄 was secretly encoded in alchemical encryption by 1-2 people in the eccelesiastical elite; The Holy Mushroom 🍄 was present within the Church, Ruck says: 1 or 2 elites, once, used it, one time. “Dont be so stingy”, Ruck tells Rush.

The Holy Mushroom 🍄 was only MOSTLY suppressed and forgotten within the Church, Ruck corrects Rush. This is the stingy, mushroom-minimizing “Moderate” (~= Minimal) entheogen theory of religion.

The LAME and self-defeating field of entheogen scholarship amounts to a pathetic argument over whether The Mushroom 🍄 was 99.99% absent from within the Church, per Ruck; or 100% absent, per Rush.

THESE ARE THE 💩”OPTIONS” that are presented to us by the Ruck Hoffman Heinrich school & the Allegro Irvin Rush school. F that!! says my 2002 Maximal entheogen theory of religion & Brown 2016/2019.

“Which shade of Moderate (aka Minimal) narrative /theory of presence of mushrooms in Christianity do you hold?” asks the God-forsaken field of entheogen scholarship.

the field of entheogen scholarship is wildly lopsided and EVERYONE (as i noted and rebelled agaunst in 2002) shares the field’s master paradigm of:

The entire field of entheogen scholarship = the assumption of suppression / Forgot / secret/ absence / 99.99-100% suppression of msh inside the Church,

yet in 2001 Conjuring Eden article in Entheos joural of psychedelic spirituality, I noticed that their own art evidence base – and all world religious mythology art – tells the opposite story, contradicting their “mushrooms (🍄) were Forgotten & Suppressed within the Church” narrative.

The Ruck school and the Allegro school force all mushrooms to be Amanita as The Mushroom 🍄, in a strong narrative that effectively shuts out Psilocybin.

Ruck allows The Mushroom (🍄) in the eccelesiastical elite only.

Rush’s textual narrative per his 2022 book 2nd edition blurb is that only in sects before the Church, only Amanita, and no mushrooms within the Church.

Conclusions section: Brown 2019

Brown’s 2019 article, following Samorini 1998 & Egodeath.com 2007 Cybermonk, counter-asserts in the Conclusions section, “mushrooms were not suppressed”, and explicitly includes Psilocybin, on par with Amanita.

Brown 2019: https://www.academia.edu/40312824/Entheogens_in_Christian_art_Wasson_Allegro_and_the_Psychedelic_Gospels

… Wasson’s views stymied research on entheogens in Christianity for decades after the publication of Soma in 1968,

a new generation of 21st century researchers has documented growing evidence of psychedelic A. muscaria and a variety of species of psilocybin-containing mushrooms in Christian art, consistent with Samorini’s typology of “mushroom-trees.”

The Psychedelic Gospels [2016 book] contributes to these entheogenic studies:

(a) by providing original photographs and analysis of psychoactive mushroom images in several churches and cathedrals in Europe and the Middle East;

(b) by arguing that based on the presence of these images in the high holy places of Christianity,

these psychedelic traditions were not suppressed by the Church, but were rather maintained for

the secret instruction of initiates

and possibly for

the education of the illiterate masses; and

(c) by proposing a psychedelic gospels theory, which hypothesizes that

these images represent an alternative history of Christianity, suggesting that

early and medieval Christians experienced healing, divinity, and immortality by ingesting sacred psychoactive sacraments.” [Psilocybin; also Amanita]

– Brown 2019, read rest of Conclusions too

Heading

… Just like the article Conjuring Eden points out a little, Allegro’s jarring, actually self-contradictory including of Plaincourault fresco.

Their textual narrative is disproved by their art evidence base that’s used to supposedly support the infantile childish crybaby narrative that “the Church suppressed & forgot The Mushroom 🍄”.

I look at religious church mythology art and I see tons of loosecog mushroom altered-state description heavy reflection everywhere, through the Renaissance era.

… until Modernity trashcanned Esotericism, and THEN finally I agree that mushrooms (Psilocybin, also Amanita) were forgotten – due to/ discarded by the Modern movement’s rationalism posture, not suppressed by the Church. As Brown 2019 article conclusion perceives, “NOT SUPPRESSED!”

Against the Suppression Assumption narrative that entheogen scholarship pushes, the art evidence shows that mushrooms (Psilocybin and also amanita) were densely throughout/within the medieval mainstream Church.

Cyberdisciple.wordpress.com webpage: “Against the assumption of suppression of psychedelics in pre-modernity”

M Hoffman says we have proved that The Mushroom 🍄 is the engine of mystery religions & mixed wine. Just as surely as kykeon has been identified as an extinct strain of ergot!

Ruck says the fact that Amanita doesnt work is proof that its use is appealingly secret, requiring elaborate processing, and the ancients fixed Amanita’s failure to work by adding Hatsis’ random toxic non-targeted witches brew of random substances eg special ivy

Conjuring Eden shows this Liberty Caps cap 3 times and never says psilocybin! 🤯 wtff?! yet he says “Amanita” every other paragraph, as often as possible.

Ruck doesn’t mention what type of mushrooms, he stays silent. Hey Ruck school, is this The Mushroom 🍄 like your narrative is always pushing? Why don’t you comment on what kind of mushrooms here? A Psilocybin cat got your tongue???

Ruck fails to try to identify the 3 Psilocybin plants in Psalter – God creates the sacred plants.

why “dogmatism” is a poor idea that made Brown make a major error. I speak at length on this. Egodeath Mystery Show Ep156a covers that.

i derived the orders that the Ruck school is subject to:

Never write “psilocybin” when discussing Europe or Meditteranean.

You may present psilocybin images in Greek or Christian art, but your text must always only say “the mushroom” or Amanita.

https://www.academia.edu/44299202/Conjuring_Eden_Art_and_the_Entheogenic_Vision_of_Paradise

“you can eat from all trees seed … including from the tree of life… now that you ate from tree of knowledge, kick you out lest you eat of the tree of life https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=genesis+3&version=NIV

online gallery for the Conjuring Eden article:

https://entheomedia.net/eden1.htm

https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/12/24/entheos-issues-1-4-mark-hoffman/

https://www.academia.edu/44299129/Entheogens_in_Ancient_Times_Wine_and_the_Rituals_of_Dionysus

https://www.academia.edu/31550754/Hallucinogens_and_Entheogens – Winkelman and Hoffman ency entry in book Vocabulary for the Study of Religion – why do entheogen scholars permit & condone the word “hallucinogen”?

hallucinogen is a broken, false word. the more you use it, the more you spread confusion.

i have 3 hours of voice recordings from now; pm June 1 2022, to produce & upload as an episode of the Egodeath Mystery Show.

Shure SM57 miking 0 0 -10dB around 9-16″ first recording to R-07 deck til storage full , lost unknown minutes – lesson: always place “tape is rolling ” indicator right in front of you to continuously monitor it.

Ruck says msh in medieval church is 99.9 suppressed & forgotten

Irvin/Rush says msh in medieval church is 99.99 suppressed

Hatsis says 100% ;= 0 %. The early sects cults had no use of The Mushroom 🍄

But their art evidence says 100%; self-contradicts their narrative, in the same way as Allegro does.

Irvin multiplies the self-contradiction of Allegro’s use of Plaincourault. Rush follows him.

“These 1000 msh art images throughout Christian history prove that only the pre-Church Christian sects knew & used The Mushroom 🍄; the remembered forgotten “old tradition” was still present in 1300, proved by this art.”

the “Moderate” entheogen theory of religion is about as stingey as the “Minimal” theory.

Robert Graves says msh in medieval church is 99.99 suppressed.

only Samorini, Cybermonk, & Brown mention Psilocybin in medieval normal Church.

Allegro Irvin Rush & Rush show Psilocybin art but their text narrative is “Forgot & Suppressed & Absent is The Mushroom 🍄”

Entheogens and the Ancient Mystery Religions – M. Hoffman

feb 2 2022 i did an amateur recording, this morning much better

to download: Entheogens and the Ancient Mystery Religions – M. Hoffman – June 1, 2022 – raw tracking recording, v2 read-through
https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/03/09/idea-development-page-13/#Entheogens-and-the-Ancient-Mystery-Religions
Additional info at that page.

https://www.academia.edu/44235520/Entheogens_Psychedelic_Drugs_and_the_Ancient_Mystery_Religions_Mark_A_Hoffman

hope to now upload the raw recording 34:00 long, then later upload a produced version of this voice recg

no slurring

no mouth noises

energetic; speech spoken conversational, not quiet reading tone

voice work progress since feb 2021

Wasson Has Contributed Less Than Nothing to Entheogen Scholarship

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Regarding the history of mushrooms in Greek & Christian history, Wasson has contributed nothing but obstructionism, and has contributed nothing, and less than nothing.

according to my “needs fact-check”, off-the-cuff talking in Egodeath Mystery Show episode 145a ~1:10:00

Wasson in no meaningful, relevant sense is “the father of ethnomycology”.

Bury him in narrowing qualifiers and emphasize his efforts to obstruct and impede the study of mushrooms in Christian history.

Wasson multiple times censored Panofsky’s twice-recommended citation of Brinckmann’s 1906 book Tree Stylizations in Medieval Paintings.

Wasson labored and went out of his way to prevent mycologists from conducting scholarly inquiry into mushroom imagery in Christian art, and worked hard to limit the engagement to insults, name-calling, and argument from authority, to strategically prevent & discourage actual investigation into mushroom imagery in Christian art.

Allegro was pretty wildly far off-track too. He only got one word right, ”mushroom’, and misconceptualized the meaning and role of that, as secret amanita, under the Suppression paradigm/ presupposition matrix.

I summed the contributions to the topic of psilocybin* in Christianity from Wasson, Allegro, and Hatsis, and it came out to 0.

* & 🍄

3 Levels in Psalter: Beardless Left Foot, Beardless or Bearded Right Foot, Bearded with Funnel Hat Limbless

The moment you propose moving from a lower level to a higher level through a conditional gate, you immediately fall into forming Ken Wilber’s zillion-stage, 3-stage, 12-level ladder, by extending the concept of moving from an early level to a later, better level.

Climb the planetary spheres through the gates, starry sphere of fixed stars, & beyond the eternalism-ruled cosmos.

Things to Inventory

interpret row 2 right. beard & funnel hat & no foot down, attached at base/mushroom to limbless beardless guy. Has mushroom hem prominent at stability column base, so is signalled as demanding interpretation.

live zoom (mobile: landscape orient.) https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f134.item.zoom

How many wear funnel hat?

How many have beards?

How many are limbless?

How many have left hand up?

How many have right foot down? left, both, none?

Funnel banquet row 1 right: no limbs.

Funnel row 2 right: beardless limbless guy attached to funnel guy who has no foot down.

Funnel row 2 middle: has usual limbs & positions.

father at banquet: beard, limbless, no funnel hat.

how many looking right

3 Levels

1) naive possibilism-thinking = beardless, left foot down, right hand up

2) eternalism-thinking = right foot down, left hand up, beardless or bearded

3) qualified possibilism-thinking = funnel beard limbless, no foot down. hyper-transcendent, above the non-branching eternalism block universe level

consistency vs flexibility (tolerance, play)

🍄

A scheme that ends with eternalism, as level 2, can be out-marketed by a scheme that claims to be ultra-transcendent, having a level 3+.

or say 2+, for a simple model that can’t be surpassed:

possibilism then eternalism+.

qualified possibilism-thinking = eternalism+

The Gnostic New Age: How a Countercultural Spirituality Revolutionized Religion from Antiquity to Today

detailed table of contents extracted by Cybermonk

May 26, 2022 simultaneous voice recording and voice transcription w 75% correct words below

voice dictation outline detailed outline creating a detailed outline of the book gnostic Nuage

chapter list

chapters acknowledgments introduction chapter 1 the matrix of ancient spirituality

chapter 2 the gnostic true man

chapter 3 super powers and monsters

chapter 4 Paul and gnostic dogma

chapter 5 John and dark cosmos

chapter 6 gnostic altered states

chapter 7 hell walks and star treks

chapter 8 spiritual avatars

chapter 9 the pie of politics

chapter 10 Pleasantville religions

chapter 11 gnosticism out on a limb

bibliography

English translations of gnostic sources

Phil Moggre fee

index

Detailed table of contents

by Cybermonk; only available here; available exclusively here

may 26 , 2022

acknowledgment

introduction

forbidden scriptures

a revolutionary spirituality

the dirty word gnosticism

real gnostics

gnosticism and fundamentalism

the ideal characteristics of gnostic spirituality

worship at the margins

elastic renaissance

chapter 1 the matrix of ancient spirituality

Thomas Anderson

servant spirituality

life and death in Babylonia

submission for eternity in Egypt

the Greek mortal differential

the immortal soul

capricious dealings in Israel covenant spirituality

mercy and forgiveness

ecstatic spirituality

Otherworld invasions

Persephone’s darlings

the red pill

chapter 2 the gnostic true man

Truman Burbank

gnostic spirituality and the experience of God

the transcendent god of Egypt

the religious buffer

the true man

Adam the first man

a real piece of God

the shamanic quest

pilgrims in Egypt

Religion on its head

demons in charge

beyond the borders

you’re the star

chapter 3 superpowers and monsters

Clark Kent

pagan gnosticism and the hermetics

the super power Hermes krypton neck weakness

hermetic rescue

biblical gnosticism and the Scythians

cracks in God

the gnostic monster I Alda bath

stealth Setian superpowers

Samaritan gnosticism and Simon the great power

Helena’s in trapment

flying high with Simon

savior of the world

chapter 4 Paul and gnostic dogma

Bethany Sloan

emergent Christianity

Jews devoted to Jesus

Gentiles convert

an ineffective law

Yahweh as Jesus

it’s a mystery

the universal one God

mystical baptism

all things are lawful

no longer slaves

Paul in Retreat

the surprising God

chapter 5 John and the dark cosmos

John Murdoch

Jesus the descendent light

gnostic foot prints

where in the devil is the father

two guards gods

Samaritan converts

Simon says

Baptist converts

an apostolic Catholic elder reads the gospel of John

A hostile takeover

Sorrentothis is in the bathhouse

what makes us human

chapter 6 gnostic altered states

Eddie Jessup

separation anxiety

Universe in a body

the gnostic cure

the structure of gnostic Initiation

quickening

catharsis

maturation

integration

gnostic incubation

The ecstatic brain the power of chanting on mushrooms shared trauma

chapter 7 hell walks and star treks

James T Kirk

out of the cave

liberation from reincarnation

Draco’s travelers from hell to Virgo

Jesus the Stargate

zodiac avengers

a nocturnal sky trek

elohims hello hymns Star Trekkers

ascent to the good

hermaphrodites at Heaven’s Gate

awakening the child

up to Venus and the house of God

the five seals

platonic Transcendence

if God were an archon

standing Sethians

chapter 8 spiritual avatars

Jake Soli Valyn tennis the almost pup

a duel Church

Lovers Ln.,

Ptolemy writes flora

the shocking truth

the great chain of being

Heracleion and the Samaritan woman at the well

Catholics in the middle

pagan devils

the sights and sounds of truth

The internation of God

there is something in the wine

the spiritual gnostic church

gnostic tombstones

the terror of bold speech

the well of souls

chapter 9 the pie of politics

Maximilian Max Cohen

Madness for sure

breaching norms

crimes against God

titanic hubris

when the king becomes a dog

naughtiness behind closed doors

how our differences valued

who is in the know

private or public

whose reading is right

Jew

do you or Christian

subordination or insubordination

culture and counterculture in Rome

gnostics strategies

tough competition

the Orthodox called prescription

the orthodox prescription

catholic alignment

gnostic insanity

chapter 10 Pleasantville religions

Betty Parker

a dead man’s Religion

rediscovering the Gospel of Judithjudas

you’re a gem

the faithless 12

sacrifice to the dark Lord

Manny and his avatar

Manny and the bleeding dates

awakened to real religion

ships of light

the extreme body

The mysteries of Jeu

liturgies of the dead for the living

transposing the stars

Jesus is not duejue

Mandy and memories

Mirai and the exulted light

Nazario gnostics soul vessels

ritual waterworks

True religion

chapter 11 gnosticism out on a limb

Shirley McClain

meeting of the minds

gnostic artifacts

gnostic awakenings

the future of gnosticism

bibliography

English translation of gnostic sources

film on graffiti

index

entheogens/psychedelics – p 41 185 +251 274. Constantly mentioned on every other page of the book – but no index entry.

Kind of like I literally ask esoteric bookstore owner guy about psychedelics books “no we don’t have any ”

and I say “you do have them; they’re scattered everywhere, youve just scattered and diluted them, you’ve spread them around. you have plenty of them, you just don’t gather them into a section.”

Then he tells me bullsht fcking insanity nonsense false hoods and lies about “psychedelics burn a hole in your soul spirit aura” bull shiite 🐂💩->🍄

heading May 22

May 22 I been recording reading from this book 6 hours for Ep145 of Egodeath Mystery Show https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/03/09/idea-development-page-13/#Egodeath-Mystery-Show-Episode-145

Egodeath Mystery Show Episode 144, May 21, 2022 https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/03/09/idea-development-page-13/#Egodeath-Mystery-Show-Episode-144 – I read aloud only the psychedelic key words.

April DeConick 2016

I have hardcover first printing 2016, 6 years ago I read every line of this book, but now it feels like a new book I haven’t read.

To do:

  • read aloud each subheading
  • create a detailed table of contents
  • selected readings
  • read aloud wool’s rvw

James Woolseys review semi-correctly states her book lacks psychedelics. hope ppl get facts accurate, can be hard. psychedelics are constantly hovering in the margins of this book as a point of reference, though she mostly asserts gnostics achieved their psilocybin altered state by means of zen meditation; the usual bull shiite 🤥🐂

why dont you demonstrate this method for us, DeConick?

Mentions M. Hoffman 🤨 & Egodeath.com

I read every line and highlighted & re-found and read aloud today the psychedelics key phrases. Check index too, if claim her book lacks psychedelics.

Looks like some good passages worth (re)reading.

Her response to Michael A Wlliams’ influential book