Gallery of Mushrooms in Christian Art

Michael Hoffman, December 13, 2020
For Great Canterbury Psalter, see later crops, after library brightened: https://egodeaththeory.org/2023/06/07/eadwine-images-great-canterbury-psalter-catalog-gallery/

Crop by Michael Hoffman

Site Map

Contents:

    Limitations of this page as of Dec. 7, 2024

    Another Large Shipment of High Medieval Mushrooms Incoming: Golden Munich Psalter

    Crop by Michael Hoffman

    Scope of the Images on This Page

    • Psilocybe cubensis mushrooms
    • Liberty Cap mushrooms
    • Amanita muscaria mushrooms
    • mushrooms in Christian art
    • Christianity mushrooms
    • Christ Amanita muscaria
    • Christ Psilocybe cubensis mushrooms
    • Christ Liberty Cap mushrooms
    • Christ mushrooms
    • Jesus mushrooms
    • angel mushrooms

    I wish this page to have “all known” images, but that’s impossible by orders of magnitude.

    That would be a massive ongoing project, including photographing countless books and articles; cropping; uploading; & tagging.

    I’m going to run out of space on this server soon. I uploaded all 25 images from Samorini’s article today, and I sure don’t have time to compress the image files, as well as correctly tag them.

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Jesus+mushroom

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=psilocybin

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Christ+mushroom

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=psilocybe

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Christian+mushroom

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=amanita+cap

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Christianity+mushroom

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=mushroom+religious+art

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=mushrooms+in+religious+art

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=mushroom%20esotericism

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Eden+mushroom

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Eve+mushroom

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=amanita+christianity

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=amanita+christian

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=amanita+christ

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=psychedelic+christian

    John Rush

    Y Y Y – The Mystic ‘Y’

    From the John Rush archive.

    See
    The Mystic Y
    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/12/30/the-mystic-y/

    Image processing by Cybermonk. [7:34 p.m. February 9, 2023]
    Official source site (washed out pale colors): https://bvmm.irht.cnrs.fr/mirador/index.php?manifest=https://bvmm.irht.cnrs.fr/iiif/182/manifest
    This nice coloring is from John Rush site which stretches the image vertically too.

    Dec. 7, 2024 status: John Rush’s gallery and https://clinicalanthropology.com website is down (an update of the DVD of blurry images that came with the 2011 first edition of Rush’s book).

    http://www.clinicalanthropology.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/10.jpg
    http://www.clinicalanthropology.com/mushroom-in-christian-art/mushroom-in-christian-art-chapter-one/
    “Plate 1:5 –Vienna, Austria – Moses Before the Burning Bush, Domenico Fetti, Oil on Canvas, 1613 CE We see God as  the burning bush and he holds one of the symbols for the “bush” in his left hand. In the bottom frame, the hand of God comes through the cloud (cap), while the red material around his wrist is the annulus, and the white hand and wrist are the stalk of the mushroom. Notice the plants to the right of Moses, the mushroom shapes in his alb and stole, including the celestial erection.” – John Rush

    Mystic Y’s, identified by Michael Hoffman.

    hybrid Italian Pine/ Parasol of Victory on the right. The one “cap” on the right clearly represents a Parasol of Victory, while the other cap clearly represents an Italian Pine. It doesn’t matter anyway, since per Wasson, Samorini, and Panofsky, artists are idiots who don’t know what they’re drawing; they just stupidly follow templates that got messed up in the course of their inept recopying, so that they ended up by accident looking like mushrooms, in all cases. This is why 100% of mushrooms in Christian art are to be dismissed. I have so many quotes explaining that artists who draw mushroom trees are uncomprehending dolts, I’m going to start a WordPress page.

    Copy of the above caption text:

    http://www.clinicalanthropology.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/10.jpg
    http://www.clinicalanthropology.com/mushroom-in-christian-art/mushroom-in-christian-art-chapter-one/
    “Plate 1:5 –Vienna, Austria – Moses Before the Burning Bush, Domenico Fetti, Oil on Canvas, 1613 CE We see God as  the burning bush and he holds one of the symbols for the “bush” in his left hand. In the bottom frame, the hand of God comes through the cloud (cap), while the red material around his wrist is the annulus, and the white hand and wrist are the stalk of the mushroom. Notice the plants to the right of Moses, the mushroom shapes in his alb and stole, including the celestial erection.” – John Rush

    Mystic Y’s, identified by Michael Hoffman.

    hybrid Italian Pine/ Parasol of Victory on the right. The one “cap” on the right clearly represents a Parasol of Victory, while the other cap clearly represents an Italian Pine.

    It doesn’t matter anyway, since per Wasson, Samorini, and Panofsky, artists are idiots who don’t know what they’re drawing; they just stupidly follow templates that got messed up in the course of their inept recopying, so that they ended up by accident looking like mushrooms, in all cases.

    This is why 100% of mushrooms in Christian art are to be dismissed.

    I have so many quotes explaining that artists who draw mushroom trees are uncomprehending dolts, I’m going to start a WordPress page:
    https://egodeaththeory.org/2025/01/07/panofskys-letters-to-wasson-transcribed/

    Article: “Mushroom-Trees” in Christian Art (Samorini)

    Better page/ collection: https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/mushroom-trees-in-christian-art-samorini/

    Article title:
    “Mushroom-Trees” in Christian Art
    Gli “alberi-fungo” nell’arte cristiana
    Author: Giorgio Samorini
    Journal issue: Eleusis, n.s., 1:87-108, 1998
    https://www.samorini.it/doc1/sam/sam-alberifungo-1998.pdf

    My commentary/reading version of the article:
    “Mushroom Trees” in Christian Art (Samorini)
    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/mushroom-trees-in-christian-art-samorini/

    Samorini Figure 1

    Better collection: https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/mushroom-trees-in-christian-art-samorini/

    copied from elsewhere on the present page

    Christian Mushroom Trees
    Gallery page in support of my 2006 Plaincourault article.
    http://www.egodeath.com/christianmushroomtrees.htm#_Toc134497555

    Samorini Figure 2

    Better collection: https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/mushroom-trees-in-christian-art-samorini/

    Samorini Figure 3

    Better collection: https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/mushroom-trees-in-christian-art-samorini/

    Esoteric Y branching.
    1. Caduceus = branching vs. non-branching experiential mental worldmodels
    2. Caduceus = male ruler snake & female ruler snake, frozen in rock

    Y = caduceus = non-branching lower, basic “branching” Y shape, “branching possibility or non-branching monopossibility” concept, 2 heimarmene snakes, the local female ruler snake and the male veiled thought-source revealed as frozen in rock all future kingly control-thoughts preexisting, {king frozen into a rock statue, king tied by serpents to a rock bench for eternity, king frozen into the rock world}.
    Y = the branching vs. non-branching models/ experiential states.
    Y = caduceus w/ male ruler snake & female ruler snake. rock-frozen pair of ruler snakes.
    the local female control-thought receiver/receptacle
    the normally hidden male control-thought inserter/injector, along a snake rail frozen in rock, projected from every point in time.

    Samorini Figure 4

    Better collection: https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/mushroom-trees-in-christian-art-samorini/

    Page:
    Christian Mushroom Trees
    Subsection:
    Italian Umbrella Pines
    http://www.egodeath.com/christianmushroomtrees.htm#_Toc134497557

    Samorini Figure 5

    todo: find color version

    Samorini Figure 6

    Samorini Figure 7

    https://funkystock.photoshelter.com/gallery/Bardo-Museum-Roman-Mosaics-Artefacts-Tunis/G0000w8HVZlhLSB8/C0000r2uLJJo9_s0
    Cropped & added by Michael Hoffman, the theorist of ego death

    Samorini Figure 8

    Samorini Figure 9

    Samorini Figure 10

    Le Saint Graal Retrouve le Fruit Defendu et la Chair des Dieux

    Section copied from lower in the present page, for clearer image than in Samorini article.

    The Holy Grail Finds the Fruit Defendu and the Flesh of the Gods

    https://media.paperblog.fr/i/583/5834996/saint-graal-retrouve-fruit-defendu-chair-dieu-L-90ITbm.jpeg
    https://www.paperblog.fr/5834996/le-saint-graal-retrouve-le-fruit-defendu-et-la-chair-des-dieux/

    Samorini Figure 11

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=panaeolus
    Michael Wood
    proof that mushroom caps have branches under them, as accurately literally depicted in Canterbury Psalter.  Panaeolus semiovatus
    Webpage:
    California Fungi—Panaeolus semiovatus
    http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Panaeolus_semiovatus.html
    Fred Stevens http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Panaeolus_semiovatus.html
    proof that mushroom caps have branches underneath the canopy cap
    todo: add this and above, to Proof article or Criteria article

    Flip through the hi-res photos at page http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Panaeolus_semiovatus.html for branches under caps like Canterbury Psalter.

    Samorini Figure 12

    Plate 8 from Brinckmann’s book that was censored from Panofsky’s letter multiple times by Pope Wasson
    Brinckmann’s book, Plate 8
    ivy-vine leaves in proximity with mushroom caps
    My WordPress page:
    Brinckmann, Mushroom Trees, & Asymmetrical Branching
    Book at archive.org:
    https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_8AgwAAAAYAAJ/page/n77/mode/2up

    Samorini Figure 13

    Samorini Figure 14

    copied from elsewhere in this page; find “donkey”
    https://psychedelicgospels.com/psychedelic-gospels-book/

    Samorini Figure 15

    Samorini Figure 16

    Samorini Figure 17

    Folio 027v (Bodleian Library, Medieval Bestiary)
    Analysis: https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/11/13/compelling-evidence-criteria-of-proof-for-greek-bible-mushrooms/#tftssa
    copied from elsewhere in this “Gallery of Mushrooms in Christian Art” WordPress page

    Samorini Figure 18

    Samorini Figure 19

    This image is probably reversed.

    The following two images are dup’d from elsewhere in the present page:

    Adam and Eve, Bernward’s Door of Salvation, St. Michael’s Church
    Panel 4, Adam and Eve, Bernward’s Door of Salvation. St. Michael’s Church, Hildesheim, Germany, 1015 (photo of Julie M. Brown)
    Citation: Journal of Psychedelic Studies 3, 2; 10.1556/2054.2019.019
    https://aponr.wordpress.com/2012/10/22/bernward-doors/
    https://i2.wp.com/farm9.staticflickr.com/8459/8058928524_d813efa36e.jpg
    they got pic from flickr

    Samorini Figure 20

    This layout is EXCELLENT work by Samorini, bravo; literally side-by-side coverage of two distinct families — the opposite of the single-plant fallacy.
    The only thing better, would be 3-column: Cubensis; Liberty Cap; Amanita.
    We have to put AMANITA LAST, to correct the severe imbalance of coverage in the first phase of entheogen scholarship from say 1952-2009 (from Panofsky’s letter against the mycologists in 1952; to Irvin’s 3 books in 2009).
    The 3rd on left (Salamander) fits shape of Liberty Cap lower right — b/c hybrid combination of Amanita/ Cubensis/ Liberty Cap.
    2009-1952= 57 years of Amanita Madness imbalance among entheogen scholars.
    — Michael Hoffman

    Samorini Figure 21

    Samorini Figure 22

    Samorini Figure 23

    Samorini Figure 24

    Samorini Figure 25

    Canterbury Psalter

    See Site Map: https://egodeaththeory.org/nav/#Great-Canterbury-Psalter

    For Great Canterbury Psalter, see later-than-2020 crops, after library brightened: https://egodeaththeory.org/2023/06/07/eadwine-images-great-canterbury-psalter-catalog-gallery/

    Canterbury Psalter Mushroom Inventory
    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/12/13/canterbury-psalter-mushroom-inventory/

    Photo of mushroom specimen, with branches on underside of cap, formed by the universal veil.
    Photo: Michael Wood. California Fungi—Panaeolus semiovatus
    http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Panaeolus_semiovatus.html
    Folio 134 Detail
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f134.item.zoom
    Folio 11 – 12 Images

    Selected images are broken out below.

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f11.item.zoom
    Folio 11 Detail: Row 1 Left
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f11.item.zoom#

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=amanita+christ

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=amanita

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=amanita+psalter

    Folio 11 Detail: Row 1 Right
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f11.item.zoom

    I read the above as: Panaeolina, Liberty Cap, Cubensis, Amanita — Michael Hoffman, the theorist of ego death, [8:40 p.m. December 13, 2020]

    http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/photos/large/Panaeolina_foenisecii(fs-07).jpg
    Folio 11 Detail: Row 2 Left
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f11.item.zoom
    Folio 11 Detail: Row 3 Middle
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f11.item.zoom
    Folio 11 Detail: Row 3 Right
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f11.item.zoom
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f11.item.zoom
    Folio 11, Row 4 Middle
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f11.item.zoom
    Folio 12 Top – Two Mushroom Trees
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f12.item.zoom
    Folio 12 Row 3 of 4 – Mushroom Ram Caught in Mushroom Thicket
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f12.item.zoom
    Folio 13 – Burning Bush
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f13.item.zoom
    Folio 15 – Devil, Combined Cubensis-Liberty Caps + Vine-Leaf Tree
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f15.item.zoom

    Pyschedelic Christianity : A Scholarly Debate on the Holy Mushroom Theory
    [sic 1st word]
    YouTube channel: Psychedelic Historian, 1:07:15 —
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PXZGiX4Qnk&t=4037s
    Hatsis incorrectly claims it’s from Paris Psalter.

    In the video, Hatsis incorrectly claims that this image is from a different psalter, the “Edwin-Paris Psalter”.

    The Paris Psalter links below don’t show the image, but the Canterbury Psalter site shows the image:
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f15.item.zoom

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Psalter

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10515446x/f1.item.zoom
    hi-res Zoom of Folio 1 of Paris Psalter

    I proved that the above mushroom shapes represent Psilocybe deliberately used for religious experiencing:

    1. The “Hanging-over-God’s-sword” mushroom-tree image by the same team is either meaningless, or represents trained, expert, peak-state use of Psilocybe as I proved.
    2. The same team painted all these mushroom images in this work, the Canterbury Psalter.
    3. Therefore all 65-70 mushroom plants illustrated by this team in this Canterbury Psalter, including the three mushroom trees in the above image, represent the use of Psilocybe to induce religious experiencing.

    The vine-leaf trees which are coupled with these mushroom trees, by this team of illustrators, also indicate the routine, trained, efficient use of Psilocybe, to reveal non-branching of possibilities, destroying egoic possibilism-thinking.

    The Canterbury Psalter “mushroom tree/ hanging/ sword” image with the trained, self-threatening Psalter reader, depicts not puzzlement over “the shadow” like today’s braggart hubristic Psilocybin therapists (Muraresku), but the opposite: the image provably depicts a Psilocybe expert-level direct engagement with the {serpentine dragon monster}, and reconciling with eternalism; learning how to deal with the pre-existence of control-thoughts, which kills, disproves, and effectively disempowers egoic control agency.

    Folio 15 – Leper
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f15.item.zoom
    Folio 16 – Italian Pine (with Bird Nests)
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f16.item.zoom
    Folio 20 – Hanging from Italian Pine by Arm, Water Source
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f20.item.zoom
    Folio 20 Italian Pine – Hi-Res Zoom of Umbrella Pines in Tree Canopy of One of the Italian Pines a.k.a. “Umbrella Pines” (Just to Clarify) a.k.a. “Parasols of Victory” for Those Really Astute Scholars
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f20.item.zoom
    Folio 22 – Several Italian Pines, & Some Parasols of Victory as Well
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f22.item.zoom

    Folio 22: Detail of Italian Pine #2 of 10. Or Parasol of Victory #2 of 10. Let the experts battle this dispute out. But DEFINITELY NOT mushrooms, Cubensis, Liberty Caps.
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f22.item.zoom
    Folio 22 Middle – 5 Italian Pines, 0 Parasols of Victory. Or the reverse. Anyways, Def Not Cubensis, Liberty Caps, & Amanita.
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f22.item.zoom
    Folio 22 Right – 0 Italian Pines, 5 Parasols of Victory. Or the reverse. Anyways, Def Not Cubensis, Liberty Caps, & Amanita.
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f22.item.zoom
    Crop by Cybermonk, https://egodeaththeory.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/image-97.png?w=812 – Dec. 2020, not March 2021, therefore DARK; not the library’s corrected palette. Click image to see improved colors.
    Exercise for the Reader: Identify this Object:
    Some experts say it’s an Italian Pine.
    Other experts have definitively identified it as a Parasol of Victory.
    Which of these top experts is correct?
    Folio 25 – Absalom
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f25.item.zoom
    Folio 29
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f29.item.zoom
    Folio 32
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f32.item.zoom
    Folio 34
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f34.item.zoom
    Folio 38
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f38.item.zoom
    Folio 40
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f40.item.zoom
    Folio 49
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f49.item.zoom

    Christian Mushroom Trees
    Section: Canterbury Psaltery Showing Cluster of Mushroom Fruiting-Bodies
    http://www.egodeath.com/christianmushroomtrees.htm#_Toc134497563

    From the Canterbury Psaltery, early 12th C.  It appears in the book:
    Celestial Treasury: From the Music of the Spheres to the Conquest of Space
    Marc Lachieze-Rey & Jean-Pierre Luminet (2001), p. 178.
    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0521800404

    twofold, basic Y branching, from upper left

    Folio 49 Left – Parasols of Victory
    Folio 49 Right – Detail of Italian Pine (a Scroll Is Above It)

    tree shrub cluster, from upper right

    Psilocybe cubensis cluster, Liberty Cap mushrooms in cap, Christian art
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f49.item.zoom
    Folio 49 Middle – Gavel
    Folio 49 – Billowing Holy Spirit Garment Lifting

    Lifted Garment & Mushroom Folds in Christian & Greek Art, Indicating the Ecstatic Holy Spirit Altered State
    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/12/13/lifted-garment-mushroom-folds-in-christian-greek-art-indicating-the-ecstatic-holy-spirit-altered-state/

    Dec 13 2020 9:17 a.m. — check John Rush book re: garment lifting.

    I propose that this theme of Christian art with garment lifted to the right, and looking back and up to the right, is equivalent to Greek art with billowing cloth.

    Experiment to run; hypothesis: in Greek & Christian art, the billowing cloth indicating the the Holy Spirit altered state is usually to the left; to the figure’s right side.

    Two angels with garment lifted to their right, with vaguely mushroom-shaped fold. A recurring theme in this artist’s work in the Canterbury Psalter — a given explanandum.
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f49.item.zoom
    Folio 51 – Left Branching, Right Non-Branching Italian Pines – or Is It Parasols of Victory?? Only the Experts Know for Sure, But Definitely Not Mushrooms
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f51.item.zoom
    Folio 51 Hi-Res Detail Zoom
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f51.item.zoom

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=cubensis

    https://innervisions.nl/wp-content/themes/BLANK-Theme/images/big/zauberpilze-sporen-psilocybe-cubensis-amazonian.jpg
    Folio 53 detail – Branching Left, Debranched Right
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f53.item.zoom
    Folio 55 Detail
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f55.item.zoom
    Folio 78 Detail – Umbrella Pines in Tree Canopy
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f78.item.zoom
    Folio 98 – Italian Pine – Detail
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f98.item.zoom
    Folio 145 Detail
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f145.item.zoom

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=cubensis

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=mushroom+%22liberty+cap%22

    https://innervisions.nl/wp-content/themes/BLANK-Theme/images/big/zauberpilze-sporen-psilocybe-cubensis-amazonian.jpg
    Folio 177 – Right-hand Debranched
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f177.item.zoom
    Folio 193 Detail
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f193.item.zoom

    Plaincourault Amanita Tree Fresco

    (in Fact an Italian Pine – if You Are the Top, Expert Art Historian and Are Daft, or Are a Banker for the Pope)

    Christian Mushroom Trees
    Gallery page in support of my 2006 Plaincourault article.
    http://www.egodeath.com/christianmushroomtrees.htm#_Toc134497555 —

    Bory’s Plaincourault Lookalike Painting

    Bory’s mid-20th Century painting that’s a copy (imitation, re-creation) of the original fresco.

    Images I Uploaded to the Web in 2002

    Images I Discovered, Re-Photographed, and Uploaded to the Web in 2002

    The below images are from my webpage:
    Christian Mushroom Trees
    Gallery page in support of my 2006 Plaincourault article.
    http://www.egodeath.com/christianmushroomtrees.htm#_Toc134497555 —

    Eusebian Letter with Portrait of Eusebius

    The below images are from my webpage:
    Christian Mushroom Trees
    Gallery page in support of my 2006 Plaincourault article.
    http://www.egodeath.com/christianmushroomtrees.htm#_Toc134497555 —

    Book:
    Treasures in Heaven: Armenian Illuminated Manuscripts
    http://amzn.com/0691037515
    Thomas Mathews, Roger Wieck, June 1994
    “For over a thousand years the pre-eminent expression of Armenian culture was the illuminated manuscript―above all, the illustrated Gospel Book. Brilliantly painted and often bound in silver and decorated with jewels, these volumes constitute the principal source of information on the history, religion, language, and art of Armenia. … Contributors to this volume include….”

    Page 44 shows a mushroom tree in the lower left.

    Information from the book: “Fig. 23 – Eusebian Letter with Portrait of Eusebius, by the First Painter, 1300-07. Los Angeles, University of California, University Research Library, Special Collections, Armenian MS 1, p. 4 (cat. 36).”

    Scan of a photocopy of the black and white rendering in the book:

    Below, page 45 shows a mushroom tree in the lower right:

    Information from the book: “Fig. 24 – Eusebian Letter with Portrait of Carpianos, by the First Painter, 1300-07. Los Angeles, University of California, University Research Library, Special Collections, Armenian MS 1, p. 5 (cat. 36).”

    Scan of a photocopy of the black and white rendering in the book:

    Matenadaran Erevan – Baptism

    Christian Art: Erevan, Matenadaran: ‘Baptism’, mid-11th century.  – Several Mushroom Trees

    The below images are from my webpage:
    Christian Mushroom Trees
    Gallery page in support of my 2006 Plaincourault article.
    http://www.egodeath.com/christianmushroomtrees.htm#_Toc134497555 —

    Book:
    Treasures in Heaven: Armenian Illuminated Manuscripts
    Thomas Mathews, Roger Wieck
    June 1994

    Page 47 has two illustrations — one has 3 mushroom trees:

    Information from the book: “Fig. 27 Baptism, mid-11th century. Erevan, Matenadaran 7736, fol. 14v.”

    On Page 47, an image shows 2 mushroom trees:

    Information from the book: “Fig. 28 Baptism, mid-11th century. Erevan, Matenadaran 7736, fol. 17.”

    Page 93 has the illustration just in black and white, of the illustration used for the cover of Bible Review, October 2001, the giant Amanita-cap Last Supper table shown at my page:
    http://www.egodeath.com/entheogenpicfinds.htm —
    “Last Supper around an Amanita-cap table”. The mushroom is hardly perceivable in this merely black-and-white rendering — color is essential in cases such as these.

    I also have a color photocopy of an Eden cycle showing the tree as generally the same type as a mushroom tree: once the ‘mushroom tree’ idea was standardized, it was sometimes expressed very subtly: not recognizable by a cap shape, but rather, by the grouping of all the leaves in some shape at the top, and with two cut-off arms — branch-stubs, leaving a bare or near-bare trunk that, as a result, indicates a mushroom stem. One color picture in this book shows birds nesting in such a loosely portrayed single-top mushroom-tree that doesn’t have cap-shaped top, but more of just a circle-top.

    Water-from-Rock Ossuary (Cubensis) – Peter’s Water Miracle, from a Sarcophagus

    The below images are from my webpage:
    Christian Mushroom Trees
    Gallery page in support of my 2006 Plaincourault article.
    http://www.egodeath.com/christianmushroomtrees.htm#_Toc134497555 —

    Ossuary showing the vertical “stream of water” (stem) flowing from the “rock” (cap), with guys grabbing and chewing at the stem. A strange way to portray a rock with water flowing from it.

    This scan is from the book, p. 87 —

    The Clash of Gods: A Reinterpretation of Early Christian Art
    http://amzn.com/B01JXOZ7DS
    Thomas F. Mathews (same as other book)

    Montecassino Illustration Showing Psilocybe and Mandrake

    The below images are from my webpage:
    Christian Mushroom Trees
    Gallery page in support of my 2006 Plaincourault article.
    http://www.egodeath.com/christianmushroomtrees.htm#_Toc134497555 —

    Mushroom-shaped and mandrake-shaped Eden trees, with mushroom-shaped grape clusters on the ground in between.  Found at http://pharmacratic-inquisition.com/nontesters/pharmacratic/ – “Adam and Eve with serpent-entwined Psilocybe mushroom (caduceus). Italy [Abbey of Montecassino]; circa 1072 – British Library”.  Mandrake is chemically similar to Henbane and Belladonna.  Mandrake drawings traditionally show a human body instead of the tree trunk shown here.

    Saint Eustace Window at Chartres with Many Cubensis Mushroom Trees

    Full Saint Eustace Window

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Eustace+window

    275  “Legend of St. Eustace (first part, window at Chartres), p. 276 second part, 277 third part

    Conversion of Placidas, Saint Eustace Window, Chartres Cathedral
    Conversion of Placidas, Saint Eustace Window. Chartres Cathedral, France, early 12th century (photo by Julie M. Brown)
    Citation: Journal of Psychedelic Studies 3, 2; 10.1556/2054.2019.019
    “the Conversion of Placidas to Saint Eustace. Flanked by sacred mushrooms, he kneels and prays before the crucifix, which appears between the antlers of a stag standing regally before him.”
    http://www.soniahalliday.com/category-view3.php?pri=FR837-8-26.jpg
    http://www.soniahalliday.com/images/FR837-8-26.jpg
    https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3AFCW043AGA010/viewer
    https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3AFCW043AGA010/viewer
    https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3AFCW043AGA010/viewer

    The below b/w images are from my webpage:
    Christian Mushroom Trees
    Gallery page in support of my 2006 Plaincourault article.
    http://www.egodeath.com/christianmushroomtrees.htm#_Toc134497555 —

    Emile Mâle (Dora Nussey, tr.), The Gothic Image: Religious Art in France of the Thirteenth Century (Icon Editions Series).  1913 title of the initial English translation of the 3rd French edition: Religious Art in France of the Thirteenth Century: A Study in Medieval Iconography and Its Sources of Inspiration, http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0064300323 (Amazon shows the full text but not the images).

    Page 3 shows a Chartres stained-glass window with several mushroom trees — including a plain and starkly clear literal representation of a psilocybin-shaped mushroom, shown below.  This is a small portion of a very large window with many clear mushroom depictions.  The book shows a sharp, black and white close-up of this portion of the window, which is representative of the other parts of the window.

    The book presents black-and-white renderings of stained-glass windows.

    Information from the book: “Fig. 1.– The Sky, Water, and Trees. From the Legend of St. Eustace. Window at Chartres.”

    https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3AFCW043AGA010/viewer

    iirc, i scanned these b/w images and uploaded them (to egodeath.com), around 2005.

    Gideon and the Fleece – Window at Laon Showing Multiple Mushrooms

    The below images are from my webpage:
    Christian Mushroom Trees
    Gallery page in support of my 2006 Plaincourault article.
    http://www.egodeath.com/christianmushroomtrees.htm#_Toc134497555 —

    Page 16 of the same book shows a stained-glass window with a couple fairly good mushroom trees, below.

    Information from the book: “Fig. 8.– Gideon and the Fleece (window at Laon) (From Florival and Midoux, by permission of M. de Florival).

    This is a scan of the black-and-white rendering in the book:

    My Entheogen Picture Finds, Around 2002

    Print images that I discovered/recognized; scanned or photographed; and uploaded to the Web around 2002.

    Virgin Mary Wearing an Amanita-cap Cap

    The below images are from my webpage:
    Entheogen Picture Finds
    Gallery page in support of my 2006 Plaincourault article.
    http://www.egodeath.com/entheogenpicfinds.htm —

    Announced December 25, 2003

    From Economist magazine, Dec 20 2003-Jan 2 2004, p. 29. This icon painting shows the mother of God (Queen of Heaven) holding the Christ child. Her headdress is an Amanita cap cap.

    This is the cover of the issue:

    On page 29 this icon appears:

    From digital camera:

    From scanner:

    A close-up of Mary’s cap reveals it to be a literal Amanita cap:

    From digital camera:

    From scanner:

    For comparison, below is a portion of a photo of a dried orange-gold (rather than red) species of Amanita, similar shape though from a different angle. In the icon, a fresh Amanita is represented, so the dots (veil remnants) are raised more.

    Last Supper Around an Amanita-cap Table

    The below images are from my webpage:
    Entheogen Picture Finds
    Gallery page in support of my 2006 Plaincourault article.
    http://www.egodeath.com/entheogenpicfinds.htm —

    Announced November 10, 2001

    From digital camera:

    From scanner:

    For comparison, here is a similar icon with a mushroom-cap shaped table, but one without any clear entheogenic allusions, though it does look like the common orange-brown color of Amanita cap with off-white spots:

    Bible Review current issue, October 2001. Focus: Last Supper.

    http://www.biblereview.org/bro01/brcover.html

    When looking at the magazine cover at the newsstand, though Clark Heinrich has taught me to actively look for Amanita in iconography (http://www.promind.com/bk_stf.htm, http://www.entheomedia.org), I thought that this Eucharist scene on the cover was noteworthy because each disciple had a loaf/ plain tan cap at his place setting. Fortunately I bought the issue, and was embarrassed to plainly and immediately see that the tan loaves are off-white veil-remnant spots on the wrapped-around red edge of the table.

    The table surface is golden honeycomb, a simile for honey-smelling, golden Amanita — to the taste and smell, this honeycomb is a literal representation; to the eyes, you must mentally replace the honeycomb lines by straight lines to form the usual Amanita-underside sun-halo.

    I was able to recognize this pattern because I’ve been looking for not only Amanita-underside rays in Christian halos, but also for a rim, often red, with dots, representing the underturned top of the cap.

    Other mushroom shape elements: the blue awning forms a thick stipe. Since the iconographically stylized table top has “poor” perspective, it is a semicircle which, combined with the blue awning, forms a perfect mushroom shape. The “poorly” drawn red container in the middle of the table forms the Holy Grail shape of the mature upturned Amanita (Heinrich, _Strange Fruit_ page 85 plate 35; Heinrich plate 5 page 54, Issue 1, Entheos journal).

    In the Passover Seder meal, the significance of the food served during the Seder must be explained during the meal.

    [see correction of this paragraph below] After Dan Merkur’s book _Mystery of Manna_, this would mean explaining the story of Moses poisoning the leavening in Egypt with a toxic strain of ergot (the “yeast of malice”), and forbidding the Jews to use the leavening, to walk away with booty and redemption from slavery while the Egyptians were incapacitated with ergot poisoning.

    Correction: The ergot Exodus hypothesis was described in detail and published by Clark Heinrich. Dan Merkur’s book _The Mystery of Manna: The Psychedelic Sacrament of the Bible_, 2000, is packed with excellent ideas about entheogens (specifically, ergot) and the Bible, but I don’t see the ergot Exodus hypothesis there.

    _Strange Fruit_, Clark Heinrich, 1994/1995, pp. 78-79 — “Could Moses have poisoned the Egyptians’ bread supply with ergot?” This book has some coverage of ergot as well as Amanita, and considers how to integrate the two possibilities.

    After Clark Heinrich’s book _Strange Fruit: Alchemy, Religion and Magical Foods: The Hidden Truth_, this would mean explaining that Christ is consubstantial with Amanita, which causes a dramatic ego-death and rebirth experience when ingested after fasting. This rebirth experience amounts to transcendence of, and emancipation from, enslavement in the spacetime cosmos.

    Jonathan Klawans, the author of the article “Was Jesus’ Last Supper a Seder” (Bible Review, October 2001, page 24), puzzles that the requirement to explain the meaning of the Seder was not introduced until 70 CE — “But the requirement may not have even been in place in the time of Jesus. … Gamaliel … lived … after the temple was destroyed in 70 C.E. … then Jesus’ symbolic explanation of the bread and wine cannot be connected with [the Seder meal explanation requirements].”

    This objection is easily solved by assuming that the details of the life story of the Jesus figure were not invented until 70 C.E., or later, and back-projected to around 35 C.E., per Earl Doherty’s book _The Jesus Puzzle_ and Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy’s book _The Jesus Mysteries_. The details of the Jesus story were worked out over hundreds of years and mythically, we have every reason to read the Last Supper’s Eucharist explanation as a Seder type of explanation, simply because the story of the exodus and the story of the passion are largely isomorphic mythic and mystic allegories for psychoactives leading to ego-death and the emancipation of the spirit.

    Mark Lion Halo with White Dots on Red Edge

    The below images are from my webpage:
    Entheogen Picture Finds
    Gallery page in support of my 2006 Plaincourault article.
    http://www.egodeath.com/entheogenpicfinds.htm —

    Announced April 22, 2002

    Book:
    Authority and the Sacred: Aspects of the Christianisation of the Roman World
    http://amzn.com/0521595576
    Peter Brown, 1995

    Zoom showing just the cover art:

    Check out the very distinct white dots against red background on this Amanita halo edge in this iconographic painting on the cover of this book. I think the Lion is Mark’s symbol. This is the first time I’ve seen a lion with an Amanita halo.

    Blessed Sacrament Monstrance

    The below images are from my webpage:
    Entheogen Picture Finds
    Gallery page in support of my 2006 Plaincourault article.
    http://www.egodeath.com/entheogenpicfinds.htm —

    Announced December 17, 2002

    Image from the cover of:

    Book: Visits to the Blessed Sacrament

    Alphonsus Liguori

    2001

    To isolate the Amanita cap, it would be good to use a circular crop tool on this picture. I don’t know the origin of the red color in this image.

    In Alan Watts’ book Myth and Ritual in Christianity, page 198, he portrays such figures — “Monstrance for benediction and exposition of the sacrament” — as representing the spine and world-tree, with the heart of the sun, or the sun door, at the top. I’m continuing to build the case, or interpretive framework, that entheogens were much more prominent and widely used in Christendom.

    Painted Roof in St. Michael’s Church, Hildesheim (Amanita Cap)

    also called Michaeliskirche, Hildesheim, Lower Saxony, Germany 

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/28433765@N07/3922807331

    Embroidered Jesus Christ Crucifix (Amanita Cap)

    Embroidered Jesus Christ Crucifix (Amanita Cap)
    http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/truth-hertz-mushroom-cult-madness-11-7-16/
    someone on the Web added the white dots

    Stained Glass Window: Jesus as Red Tree Canopy

    Halo – Golden Mushroom Gills

    https://feralhouse.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/mushroom-xmas4-460×210.jpg

    Transfiguration of Jesus, Christ Column, Saint Michael’s Church

    Transfiguration of Jesus, Christ Column, 1020, Saint Michael’s Church, Hildesheim, Germany. Photo by Julie M. Brown
    https://psychedelictimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/jesus-psychedelic-mushroom-1024×682.jpg
    The Secret Psychedelic Mushroom Initiations of Early Christianity: Interview with Jerry Brown
    https://psychedelictimes.com/the-secret-psychedelic-mushroom-initiations-of-early-christianity-interview-with-jerry-brown/

    Bronze Statue of St. George Slaying the Dragon, Amanita at Base

    St. George psychedelic mushroom
    Bronze statue of St. George slaying the dragon, with mushrooms resembling Amanita muscaria at the base. Prague Castle, 1373. Photo by Julie M. Brown.
    https://psychedelictimes.com/the-secret-psychedelic-mushroom-initiations-of-early-christianity-interview-with-jerry-brown/

    Jesus with Amanitas in Garment Folds

    https://hannitycommunity.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/a/a01d4ac0e25558ddfd6c56ef0974418456825671.jpg
    https://community.hannity.com/t/jesus-and-psychadelics/674
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/28/29/2e/28292ed3739ae65e521286950a7fd108.jpg
    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/489133209510411782/

    Christ with Liberty Caps on Rocks

    image
    https://community.hannity.com/t/jesus-and-psychadelics/674
    Jesus and Psychadelics
    also at:
    https://www.quora.com/Was-Jesus-a-psychedelic-mushroom
    https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-40962faf32233a0d71c22f63885d56c6-c

    Christ Holding Lazarus with Amanita-Egg Cross-Hatching and Red Halo

    https://egodeaththeory.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/90fd9-jesus_mushroom.jpg
    http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2008/09/jesus-christ-magic-mushroom-part-1.html
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RsgJtTNjEE
    vid: Mushrooms In Christianity – seems to have L/R reversed – remembering eternalism, changes instead to forgetting eternalism, and falling back into possibilism-thinking

    Stained Glass Window – Red-Cap Amanita-Cubensis Mushroom Tree Debranched on Right

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3RsgJtTNjEE/maxresdefault.jpg
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RsgJtTNjEE
    vid: Mushrooms In Christianity

    Door – Tax Collector in Mushroom Tree Listening to Jesus, Debranched Right Hand

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RsgJtTNjEE
    vid: Mushrooms In Christianity

    Wood Door – Elija’s Ascent

    xti_9518c-elijah.jpg

    Adam and Eve, Bernward’s Door of Salvation, St. Michael’s Church

    Panel 4, Adam and Eve, Bernward’s Door of Salvation. St. Michael’s Church, Hildesheim, Germany, 1015 (photo of Julie M. Brown)
    Citation: Journal of Psychedelic Studies 3, 2; 10.1556/2054.2019.019
    https://aponr.wordpress.com/2012/10/22/bernward-doors/
    https://i2.wp.com/farm9.staticflickr.com/8459/8058928524_d813efa36e.jpg
    they got pic from flickr

    Jesus Cubensis Stained-Glass Window

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RsgJtTNjEE
    vid: Mushrooms In Christianity

    Crucifixion Between Two Mushroom Trees Debranched

    Donkey Apotheosis – Brown’s Psychedelic Gospels Book

    Detail from Jesus’s Entry into Jerusalem, Church of St. Martin de Vicq, France, early 12th century (Photo by Julie M. Brown)
    https://psychedelicgospels.com/psychedelic-gospels-book/
    https://psychedelicgospels.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/09.3-St.-Martin.jpg
    Samorini’s article caption
    zoom + Detail from Jesus’s Entry into Jerusalem, Church of St. Martin de Vicq, France, early 12th century (Photo by Julie M. Brown)
    https://psychedelicgospels.com/psychedelic-gospels-book/
    https://psychedelicgospels.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/09.3-St.-Martin.jpg
    zoom + zoom + Detail from Jesus’s Entry into Jerusalem, Church of St. Martin de Vicq, France, early 12th century (Photo by Julie M. Brown)
    https://psychedelicgospels.com/psychedelic-gospels-book/
    https://psychedelicgospels.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/09.3-St.-Martin.jpg

    Notre Dame de Laon France XIII, Stained Glass, Red-cap Mushroom Plants

    https://www.fnord23.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Notre-Dame-de-Laon-France-XIII-c.jpg
    Article: The Psychedelic Origin of Christianity
    https://www.fnord23.com/the-psychedelic-origin-of-christianity/

    Eve Eden Tree with Six Red-and-White Caps

    http://cdn3.collective-evolution.com/assets/uploads/2015/05/psych.png
    https://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/05/30/a-no-nonsense-guide-to-preventing-a-bad-trip-psychedelic-harm-reduction-101/

    All Saints’ Church – Stained-Glass Windows

    https://www.ancientpsychedelia.com/all-saints-church/
    https://www.ancientpsychedelia.com/all-saints-church/
    https://www.ancientpsychedelia.com/all-saints-church/

    Mushroom at Beast Entrance of Bascillica St. Vincent in Spain

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uuKobUJlKz4/VS6No7dA0hI/AAAAAAAAAlQ/_UGP-Mjeygk/s1600/mushroom%2Bencoded%2Bat%2Bthe%2Beast%2Bentrance%2Bof%2Bthe%2Bbascillica%2Bst%2Bvincent%2Bin%2Bspain.jpg

    Mushrooms in Robe Hems at Last Supper – Brown

    Amanita Muscaria and Psilocybin in Early Christian Art: Interview with Jerry Brown
    https://psychedelictimes.com/amanita-muscaria-and-psilocybin-in-early-christian-art-interview-with-jerry-brown/
    https://psychedelictimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/mushroom-robes.jpg

    The River of Life, Douce Apocalypse, John Led to Christ through Field of Mushrooms

    http://www.clinicalanthropology.com/mushroom-in-christian-art/mushroom-in-christian-art-chapter-three/
    http://www.clinicalanthropology.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/mca3_33_a.jpg
    “Plate 3:33a – The River of Life, Douce Apocalypse, 1265-1270 CE Note the mushroom-trees and the River of Life flowing from  Christ, a possible borrowing from the Egyptian tradition. Christ holds his determinative, the Sacrificial Lamb, in the hokeypokey stance, while John is being led to Christ (probably by Michael) through the field of mushrooms.”

    Le Saint Graal Retrouve le Fruit Defendu et la Chair des Dieux

    The Holy Grail Finds the Fruit Defendu and the Flesh of the Gods

    https://media.paperblog.fr/i/583/5834996/saint-graal-retrouve-fruit-defendu-chair-dieu-L-90ITbm.jpeg
    https://www.paperblog.fr/5834996/le-saint-graal-retrouve-le-fruit-defendu-et-la-chair-des-dieux/

    Saint Graal Retrouve

    https://www.paperblog.fr/5834996/le-saint-graal-retrouve-le-fruit-defendu-et-la-chair-des-dieux/

    Lot’s Wife Turned to Pillar of Salt (Cubensis Plant)

    IMG_6520_CanterburyCath1180.PNG. Lot’s wife turned to pillar of salt.
    iirc, I found this in a book, photographed it, and uploaded this image, around 2003. While in a university art library looking for such images.

    Window of Charlemagne with Amanita

    Mushrooms Encoded in Christian Art
    Carl de Borhegyi
    http://mushroomsinchristianart.blogspot.com/
    https://www.mushroomstone.com/Window%20of%20Charlesmange%20with%20Amanita%20muscaria%20mushroom.JPG

    Mosaic of Red Mushrooms, Basilica of Aquileia

    Mosaic of red mushrooms, found in the Christian Basilica of Aquileia in northern Italy, dating to before 330 AD.
    404 – http://www.entheomedia.org/eden4.htm
    Mosaic of red mushrooms, found in the Christian Basilica of Aquileia in northern Italy. The section of the mosaic floor which displays these mushrooms is found in the oratory of the northern hall, which is the oldest part of the basilica, dating to before 330 AD.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Aquileia_mushrooms.jpg

    Gold and Red Vestments Chalice

    Jesus, Santa, Mithra and the Magic Mushroom
    https://betweentwopines.wordpress.com/2014/04/21/jesus-santa-mithra-and-the-magic-mushroom/
    https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/atlantean_conspiracy/images/atlant348.jpg

    Chartres – Fortuna

    https://psychedelicwitch.com/wp-content/uploads/chartres-cathedral-this-is-not-a-mushroom-300×281.jpg
    https://psychedelicwitch.com/the-mushroom-in-mommy-fortunas-midnight-carnival/
    The Mushroom in Mommy Fortuna’s Midnight Carnival
    Thomas Hatsis

    Alchemy King Amanita Cap – Effluents of Deity

    Ruck & Hoffman
    The Effluents of Deity: Alchemy and Psychoactive Sacraments in Medieval and Renaissance Art
    http://amzn.com/161163041X

    Moral Bestiaries

    Moral Bestiaries are for teaching Christian morality, and are produced by illuminated manuscript shops.

    Salamander

    Folio 027v (Bodleian Library, Medieval Bestiary)
    Analysis: https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/11/13/compelling-evidence-criteria-of-proof-for-greek-bible-mushrooms/#tftssa

    Squirrel

    Pyschedelic[sic] Christianity : A Scholarly Debate on the Holy Mushroom Theory
    YouTube channel: Psychedelic Historian
    January 5, 2018. Hatsis vs. Brown
    1:08:14
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PXZGiX4Qnk&t=4094s
    He says the mushroom trees aren’t mushrooms, it’s just a style.

    He doesn’t say why the artists prefer using that particular style, of mushroom-styled trees.

    Why does their style incline in the direction of mushroom trees, instead of some other stylized direction?

    Why does the mushroom shape dominate in the art of Christendom?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PXZGiX4Qnk&t=4094s

    Unicorn

    probably ivy leaf coming from cut-off branch. Ivy is non-branching.

    Manticore

    https://www.medievalists.net/2015/01/regional-impact-medieval-text-image-exploring-representations-anti-semitism-english-northern-french-medieval-bestiaries/
    https://i0.wp.com/www.medievalists.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Manticore-from-the-Salisbury-Bestiary.jpg?fit=640%2C634
    Branching analysis: all the branching comes from one point in the tree.

    Manticore 2

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/28433765@N07/3163796248/
    https://live.staticflickr.com/3115/3163796248_4b8b3be74e_b.jpg

    Hallucinogens and Christianity: Evidence in Sacred Art (Camilla & Gosso)

    Book:
    Hallucinogens and Christianity: Evidence in Sacred Art
    Allucinogeni e Cristianesimo. Evidenze nell’arte sacra
    Gilberto Camilla & Fulvio Gosso, 2007
    128 pages, illustrated
    EAN: 9788886345569
    http://amzn.com/8886345569

    https://www.ibs.it/allucinogeni-cristianesimo-evidenze-nell-arte-libro-gilberto-camilla-fulvio-gosso/e/9788886345569#a__author-ranking

    Hallucinogens and Christianity: Evidence in Sacred Art, Vol. 2 (Camilla & Gosso)

    Book:
    Hallucinogens and Christianity: Evidence in Sacred Art, Vol. 2
    Allucinogeni e Cristianesimo. Evidenze nell’arte sacra, Vol. 2
    Gilberto Camilla & Fulvio Gosso, 2016
    112 pages, illustrated
    EAN: 9788897206286
    http://amzn.com/889720628X

    https://www.ibs.it/allucinogeni-cristianesimo-evidenze-nell-arte-libro-fulvio-gosso-gilberto-camilla/e/9788897206286

    Cyberdisciple wrote: From the description of book 2, it seems that book 1 focuses on Amanita, while book 2 focuses on liberty caps:

    “Se nel primo volume l’Amanita muscaria ha avuto una attenzione particolare, in questo gli autori individuano anche la presenza, in alcune rappresentazioni proposte, della Psilocybe semilanceata.”

    If in the first volume, Amanita muscaria had special attention, in this volume the authors identify also the presence, in some proposed representations, of Psilocybe semilanceata.

    psilo-cybe semi-lanceata
    smooth-head semi-spear
    Liberty Caps

    “In this second volume of “Hallucinogens and Christianity” Gilberto Camilla and Fulvio Gosso, they continue their research on the fungal presence in Christian sacred art and propose some of their further “discoveries”.

    “If in the first volume the Amanita muscaria has received particular attention, in this the authors also identify the presence, in some proposed representations, of the semi-spear Psilocybe.

    “In both works the evidence of the presence of hallucinogenic mushrooms in Christian iconography becomes numerous and it seems obvious that they are only a small part of those existing or existed.

    “It can therefore be assumed that such a phenomenon, geographically and historically vast and widespread, cannot only be limited to religious representations.

    “Apart from the American “school”, some German authors and a few Italian friends who have expressed interest in the topics covered in these volumes, in the academic field silence reigns supreme.”

    Samuel Anointing David as a King

    1150s.Psalter BL Cott.Nero C.IV. folio 7 Codex made in the Abbey of St.Swithin in Winchester
    1150s.Psalter.Manuscript (Cott. Nero C. IV) British Library, London.This codex, made in the Abbey of St.Swithin in Winchester, contains psalms in Latin and French. The miniature on folio 7 depicts a scene with the shepherd David (above), and Samuel anointing David as a king (below). MINIATURIST, English (active 1150s in Winchester)
    Saved by Vika Bershadskaya
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1f/79/97/1f79979a9a8726c6e6eb99ae0ca484e9.png

    Entheos Issue 1 Gallery

    Entheos Issues 1-4, Mark Hoffman
    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/12/24/entheos-issues-1-4-mark-hoffman/#Entheos-The-Journal-of-Psychedelic-Spirituality —

    Article in Issue 1 (Summer 2001):
    Conjuring Eden: Art and the Entheogenic Vision of Paradise
    Hoffman, Ruck & Staples 
    Online gallery of ancillary illustrations
    38 pages, 33 illustrations, 47 ancillary online illustrations cued to text.

    • todo: Add to the present page, more images from the above online gallery’s other 4 pages:
    • 1-10, 11-20, 21-30, 31-40, 41-47 – some are linked below. Too many to link.

    https://entheomedia.net/eden1.htm

    [13] Eve Given to Adam, Bernward Doors, Dom, Hildesheim.
    https://entheomedia.net/eden2.htm
    https://entheomedia.net/Edenpics2/13tree.jpg
    [13] (Detail)
    https://entheomedia.net/eden2.htm
    https://entheomedia.net/Edenpics2/13det.jpg
    [16] Commissioning of the Twelve and the Healing of the Leper, transcript, Bernward Column, Dom, Hildesheim.
    https://entheomedia.net/eden2.htm
    https://entheomedia.net/Edenpics2/16commish.jpg
    [16] (Detail)
    https://entheomedia.net/eden2.htm
    https://entheomedia.net/Edenpics2/14det.jpg
    [18] Zachaeus, the Tax-Collector, transcript, Bernward Column, Dom, Hildesheim.
    https://entheomedia.net/eden2.htm
    https://entheomedia.net/Edenpics2/18Zach.jpg
    [19] Cursing of the Fig Tree, transcript, Bernward Column, Dom, Hildesheim..
    https://entheomedia.net/eden2.htm
    https://entheomedia.net/Edenpics2/19fig.jpg
    [24]  Jacob’s vision, Munich psalter, Bayerische Staatsbibliothek.
    https://entheomedia.net/eden3.htm
    [25]  Infant Moses afloat in a basket, Munich Psalter.
    https://entheomedia.net/eden3.htm
    [26] Jacob wrestling with the angel, Munich Psalter.
    https://entheomedia.net/eden3.htm
    [6]
     Exultet roll, Monte Cassino monastery, dated 1075.
    [10:32 p.m. December 28, 2020] – I identify the right as a mandrake-tree — Michael Hoffman – compare other Montecass image I’ve covered eg grape baskets.
    copied from elsewhere on the present page

    Italy [Abbey of Montecassino]; circa 1072 – British Library

    [7]
     St. Matthew enthroned, Canterbury Codex Aureus, c. 750 (Stockholm).
    [8]
     Compare St. John enthroned, Canterbury Codex Aureus.
    [9]
     Codex Aureus and mushroom details, below
    [10]
     Gospel Book of Otto III: The Sermon on the Mount, Reichenau, 1010. Folio 34, Verso, CLM. 4453, Staatsbibliothek, Munich.

    Todo

    / end of todo

    Acknowledgments

    Cyberdisciple provided the link to the Samorini article.

    Cyberdisciple provided leads for the Camilla & Gosso books.

    See Also

    Site Nav > Gallery
    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/nav/#gallery

    Resources for Researching Mushrooms in Greek & Christian Art

    Site Map

    Contents:

    • tbd
    Pages Containing Images

    See the images in the following articles/pages:

    At my sites:

    Defining “Compelling Evidence” & “Criteria of Proof” for Mushrooms in Christian Art
    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/11/13/compelling-evidence-criteria-of-proof-for-greek-bible-mushrooms/

    Canterbury Psalter Mushroom Inventory
    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/12/13/canterbury-psalter-mushroom-inventory/

    Christian Mushroom Trees
    Gallery for my Plaincourault Wasson/Allegro article. Italian Pine tree photos, Psilocybe photos, a few Christian art images
    http://www.egodeath.com/christianmushroomtrees.htm

    The Entheogen Theory of Religion and Ego Death
    Egodeath main article.
    http://www.egodeath.com/EntheogenTheoryOfReligion.htm

    At other sites:

    The Psychedelic Origin of Christianity
    12 images
    A gallery page, Sam Woolfe, 2013
    https://www.samwoolfe.com/2013/04/the-sacred-mushroom-and-cross-by-john.html
    https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_biblianazar/biblianazar84a_02.jpg

    Canterbury Psalter
    At Ancient Psychedelia site which launched January 2019
    ~15 images at this one page:
    https://www.ancientpsychedelia.com/canterbury-psalter/
    Ancient Psychedelia : Alien Gods and Mushrooms Goddesses

    Cybernetics in pre-modern Art in Greece, Egypt, Turkey
    Cyberdisciple – Gallery of primarily Greek art from study travels
    https://cyberdisciple.wordpress.com/2012/12/09/cybernetics-in-pre-modern-art-in-greece-egypt-turkey/

    Mushroom in Christian Art, Chapter 3
    John Rush
    Keep expectations low, have to click each link to see (not skimmable like a Web Search: Images page)
    http://www.clinicalanthropology.com/mushroom-in-christian-art/mushroom-in-christian-art-chapter-three/

    Links to Individual Images

    A large Y-branching dual mushroom, depicting the central message revealed in gnosis, about branching
    https://egodeaththeory.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/ade0d-thedarkchurchbyzantine11thcenturyfresco.jpg

    Demeter holding out a mushroom to Persephone
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fe/dc/6b/fedc6bf260b988a8c63dfd2b30e29ab0.jpg

    in Brown’s book
    https://psychedelicgospels.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/11.8-Chartres-62-St-Eustace-2.jpg

    reads as culinary, no hints of mythemeland
    https://mykosan.com/wp-content/uploads/ancient-romans-ate-mushrooms-aquileia-basilica-mosaic-1024×672.jpg

    This image looks as if it’s pages from a book on the topic of mushrooms in art:
    http://www.evolveandascend.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/815bnLB-gpL-1.jpg

    Page with plans for a book on the topic of mushrooms in art:
    Carl de Borhegyi – familiar to me somehow. Maya, not Western, mostly.
    https://mayamushroomstone.wordpress.com/
    This image URL is associated with the above:
    https://mayamushroomstone.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/dionysus-the-greek-god-of-the-vine-and-winemaking-and-ritual-madness-and-religious-ecstasy.jpg
    Stylized grape vines with mushroom-shape bunches.

    You can paste-in an image or a URL of an image, in a Web search engine such as Bing, to find other copies or croppings of the image if it’s online and crawled, to find info about it.

    Image Search Links

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=mushroom%20greek%20arthttps://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Jesus+mushroomhttps://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Christ+mushroomhttps://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Christian+mushroomhttps://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Christianity+mushroomhttps://www.bing.com/images/search?q=mushroom+religious+arthttps://www.bing.com/images/search?q=mushrooms+in+religious+arthttps://www.bing.com/images/search?q=mushroom%20esotericismhttps://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Eden+mushroomhttps://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Eve+mushroomhttps://www.bing.com/search?q=amanita+christianityhttps://www.bing.com/search?q=amanita+christianhttps://www.bing.com/search?q=amanita+christhttps://www.bing.com/search?q=psychedelic+christian

    High-Resolution Complete Canterbury Psalter
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f11.item
    High quality images, can be zoomed in a great deal without loss of resolution.
    The hanging-man image is on folio 62v: 
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f134.item

    Canterbury Psalter Mushroom & Vine Inventory

    Site Map

    Contents:

    • Intro
    • 2020 Library Images Are Dark/Dull, 2022 Are Colorful/Bright
    • Folio 11 – 4 rows, 3 cols – 15 mushroom trees, 1 lifted garment
      • God Creates Plants – Fresh Colors
      • Folio 11 row 1 right – 4 mushroom trees
        • Mushroom tree #1
        • Mushroom tree #2
        • Mushroom tree #3
        • Mushroom tree #4
      • Folio 11 row 2 left – 4 mushroom trees
        • Mushroom tree #5
        • Mushroom tree #6
        • Mushroom tree #7
        • Mushroom tree #8
      • Folio 11 row 3 middle – 1 mushroom tree
        • Mushroom tree #9
      • Tree of Knowledge – Fresh Colors
      • Folio 11 row 3 right – 3 mushroom trees
    • f12 Folio 12 – 4 rows, 3 cols – 4 mushroom trees, 2 lifted garments
      • Folio 12 top – Cain Abel – 2 mushroom trees, 1 lifted garment
        • Mushroom tree #16
        • Mushroom tree #17
      • Folio 12 row 3: Sacrifice of Isaac (Mushroom Thicket)
      • Folio 12 row 3 – Ram Caught in Mushroom Thicket – 1 mushroom tree (mushroom thicket), 1 lifted garment
        • Mushroom tree #18 – Sacrifice of Isaac (Mushroom thicket)
    • f13 Folio 13 – 12 panels – Burning Bush – 1 mushroom tree
      • Mushroom tree #19
      • Bestiary – Roasting Salamander Dancing Man
      • f14 Folio 14 – 3×4 panels – 0 mushroom trees, 0 vine-leaf tree – Moses
    • f15 Folio 15 – panels – 7 mushroom trees, 1 vine-leaf tree
      • Folio 15 – Devil – 3 mushroom trees (1 hybrid mushroom/vine-leaf tree)
        • Mushroom tree #20
        • Mushroom tree #21
        • Mushroom tree #22
      • Folio 15 – Leper – 4 mushroom trees
        • Mushroom tree #23
        • Mushroom tree #24
        • Mushroom tree #25
        • Mushroom tree #26
    • f16 Folio 16 – 3×4 Image Panels
    • f16 Folio 16 – 12 panels – Bird Nests – 1 mushroom tree
      • Mushroom tree #27
    • f17 Folio 17 – Image Panel, Many Circles
    • f18 Folio 18 – 3×4 Image Panels
    • f20 Folio 20 – 4 panels – 1 mushroom tree, 2 lifted garments
      • Folio 20 row 1 center: Jesus and Sophia dancing, 2 lifted garments
      • Folio 20 row 2 – Hanging from tree by arm, water source – 1 mushroom tree
        • Folio 20 row 2 zoom – 1 mushroom tree
        • Mushroom tree #28
    • f21 Holding Scrolls
    • Folio 21 – bookish – 0 0 0?
    • Folio 22 -field of mushroom trees – 10 mushroom trees, 1 vine-leaf tree
      • Folio 22 left, zoom – 2 mushroom trees (this zoom shows one of them)
        • Mushroom tree #29
        • Mushroom tree #30
      • Folio 22 middle – 5 mushroom trees
        • Mushroom tree #31
        • Mushroom tree #32
        • Mushroom tree #33
        • Mushroom tree #34
        • Mushroom tree #35
      • Folio 22 right – 3 mushroom trees
        • Mushroom tree #36
        • Mushroom tree #37
        • Mushroom tree #38
    • f23 Folio 23 – the letter ‘Q’ – 000 Q tail is Serpent Like Golden Psalter – resume here, adding heading for every image folio
    • f25 Folio 25 – Absalom – 1 mushroom tree, 2 vine-leaf trees, 2 lifted garment
      • Mushroom tree #39
    • f27 YI Tree Touching Tower – King sitting up in ossuary – 0 0 0 ?
    • f29 Folio 29 – Jaws of hades – 1 mushroom tree
      • Mushroom tree #40
    • f32 Folio 32 – Jaws of Hades beds – 2 mushroom trees, 1 vine-leaf tree
      • Mushroom tree #41
      • Mushroom tree #42
    • f34 Folio 34 – God’s sword and bow – 4, no 5, mushroom trees
      • Mushroom tree #43
      • Mushroom tree #44
      • Mushroom tree #45
      • Mushroom tree #46
      • Mushroom tree #47
    • f38 Folio 38 – Red bird and fish – 2 mushroom trees, 3 lifted garment
      • Mushroom tree #48
      • Mushroom tree #49
    • f40 Folio 40 – Lion in furnace – 1 mushroom tree, 2 vine-leaf trees, 6 lifted garments
      • Mushroom tree #50
    • f47 Folio 47 – Scales – 2 mushroom trees, 1 lifted garment
    • f49 Folio 49 – Wheels – 2 mushroom trees, 2 vine-leaf trees, 3 lifted garments
      • Folio 49 left – 1 mushroom tree
      • Folio 49 middle – Gavel
      • Folio 49 right – Detail (a scroll is above it) – 1 mushroom tree
        • Mushroom tree #53
      • Folio 49 – Billowing Holy Spirit Garment Lifting – 1 mushroom tree, 1 vine-leaf tree, 1 lifted garment
        • Mushroom tree #54
    • f51 Folio 51 – Laser flashlight, Left Branching, Right Non-Branching – 1 mushroom tree, 2 vine-leaf trees, 1 lifted garment
      #55
      • Folio 51 zoom – 1 mushroom tree
    • f53 Folio 53 – 1 mushroom tree, 2 vine-leaf trees, 1 wheat tree
      • Folio 53 detail – Branching Left, Debranched Right – 1 mushroom tree, 2 vine-leaf trees, 1 wheat tree
        • Mushroom tree #56
    • f55 Folio 55 – Book pillow – 3 mushroom trees, 2 vine-leaf tree, 1 lifted garment
      • Folio 55 detail – 3 mushroom trees, 1 vine-leaf tree
        • Mushroom tree #57
        • Mushroom tree #58
        • Mushroom tree #59
    • f57 Folio 57 – Three beds – 1 mushroom tree, 1 vine-leaf trees, 1 lifted garment
      • Mushroom tree #60
    • f60 Folio 60 – Cracker on tables – 3 mushroom trees, 2 vine-leaf trees, 1 lifted garment
      • Mushroom tree #61
      • Mushroom tree #62
      • Mushroom tree #63
    • f64 Folio 64 (not shown) – Torch down – 2 vine-leaf trees, 1 raised garment
    • f73 Folio 73 (not shown) – Water pipe – 2 mushroom trees (small brown shiny), 3 raised garments
      • Mushroom tree #64
      • Mushroom tree #65
    • f76 Folio 76 detail – God holding bow – 1 mushroom tree
      • Mushroom tree #66
    • f78 Folio 78 detail – Cross furnace – 1 mushroom tree, 2 vine-leaf trees
      • Mushroom tree #67
    • f82 Folio 82 (not shown) – Three mothers – 1 vine-leaf tree, 1 raised garment
    • f88 Folio 88 (not shown) – Pitcher table – 3 vine-leaf trees
    • f90 Folio 90 (not shown) – River boats – 1 lifted garment
    • f92 Folio 92 – Point to book scroll – 2 vine-leaf trees
    • f96 Folio 96– Fountain scourges – 1 vine-leaf tree
    • f98 Folio 98 – 1 mushroom tree, 1 vine-leaf tree
      • Folio 98 detail – Three lasers – 1 mushroom tree
        • Mushroom tree #68
      • Folio 98 detail – 1 vine-leaf tree
    • f102 Folio 102 detail – Fire pit – 2 vine-leaf trees
    • f104 Folio 104 – Wind storm – 5 vine-leaf trees
    • f107 – 1 mushroom tree, 2 YI vine-leaf trees, One Touching Sun, one Touching Moon
    • f107 – Lifted from Ossuary
    • f107 Folio 107 – Lift from ossuary – detail – 1 mushroom tree, 1 vine-leaf tree – f107 – YI tree with scroll opened touching non-branching I
      • Mushroom tree #69
    • f109 – 1 mushroom tree
    • f109 Folio 109 – Net – detail – 1 mushroom tree
      • Mushroom tree #70
    • f115 Folio 115 – Banner – 000
    • f118 Folio 118 – Musicians – 1 vine-leaf tree
    • f122 Folio 122 – Crucified up side down – 2 lifted garments
    • f126 Folio 126 – Double lion – 2 vine-leaf trees
    • f131 Folio 131 – Filling fountain – 000
    • f134 Folio 134 – Leg-hanging mushroom tree with sword – 1 mushroom tree, 1 vine-leaf tree, 1 lifted garment, mushroom hem folds
      • Folio 134 Detail – 1 mushroom tree, 1 vine-leaf tree
        • Mushroom tree #71
    • f141 Folio 141 – Leper demons – 000
    • f145 Folio 145 – Light bulb – 1 mushroom tree, mushroom eaves
      • Folio 145 Detail – Right-side Debranched – 1 mushroom tree
        • Mushroom tree #72
    • f149 Folio 149 – Two dogs (154 first non-Eadwine art)
    • f156 Folio 156 Detail – An Almost Tree-Looking Tree (not Eadwine)
    • f159 Folio 159 – Harp
    • f161 Folio 161 – God in bed
    • f166 Folio 166 – Horn spill – 1 lifted garment
    • f177 Folio 177 – Right arm leg; right-hand Debranched – 1 mushroom tree, 2 vine-leaf trees, 1 left/right hand
      • Folio 177 Detail – 1 mushroom tree, 1 vine-leaf trees, 1 left/right leg
        • Mushroom tree #73
    • f186 Folio 186 – Two bulls altar – 2 lifted garments
    • f190 Folio 190 – Hold half blue – 2 vine-leaf trees, 1 lifted garment
    • f193 Folio 193 – 2 mushroom trees, 1 lifted garment
      • Folio 193 left – Two heads – 1 mushroom tree
        • Mushroom tree #74
      • Folio 193 detail right – Garment Lifted – 1 mushroom tree, 1 lifted garment
        • Mushroom tree #75
    • Hybrid or Borderline Vine-Leaf/Mushroom Trees (move up into per-folio sections)
    • f107 – YI tree with scroll opened touching non-branching I

    Intro

    done: make a new gallery page that includes all images/panels, regardless of whether they include a mushroom tree 😵 ⚰️

    All of the Eadwine images:
    Eadwine Images in Great Canterbury Psalter (Catalog Gallery)
    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2023/06/07/eadwine-images-great-canterbury-psalter-catalog-gallery/

    Found 75 mushrooms trees in the Great Canterbury Psalter, numbered below.

    Also found 45 vine-leaf trees and 39 lifted garments. To tally, summed the bold # in parent items only, in the Contents section; skipped child subheads.
    Proof that the Canterbury Psalter’s Leg-Hanging Mushroom Tree Is Psilocybe; folio 134 below proves that these are psilocybe.

    For a focus on each of the 75 mushroom trees and their morphology, see
    The 75 Mushroom Trees of the Canterbury Psalter.

    Contents, above, lists 1 item for each folio from Eadwine team; lists all of the Eadwine plates in Great Canterbury Psalter. On each, list how many:

    • msh caps,
    • msh trees, or
    • other msh shapes/forms,
    • raised garment
    • other items of note for Transcendent Knowledge
    • take notes/inventory each image/folio. account for all eadwine folios.

    2020 Library Images Are Dark/Dull, 2022 Are Colorful/Bright

    To see what year a picture was captured by me and uploaded to the WordPress gallery, right-click picture, Copy Image Address, paste into address bar, see year in URL.

    f11 Folio 11 – 4 rows, 3 cols – 13 mushroom trees, 1 lifted garment

    The First Image Folio = 11, Which Is the First Page that Has Content aside from an inserted text page
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f11.item.zoom
    msh trees: many
    vine leaf joiners row 2/3

    God Creates Plants – f11 Row 1 Right – Fresh Colors

    Crop by Cybermonk, uploaded to gallery Feb. 14, 2023
    https://egodeaththeory.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/eadwine-creator-of-plants-2023-02-15.png, local: “Eadwine Creator of Plants 2023-02-15.png” 3.7 MB [12:50 a.m. Feb. 15, 2023]
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f11.item.zoom#

    Crop by Cybermonk, uploaded to gallery Feb. 14, 2023
    https://egodeaththeory.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/eadwine-creator-of-plants-2023-02-15.png, local: “Eadwine Creator of Plants 2023-02-15.png” 3.7 MB [12:50 a.m. Feb. 15, 2023]
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f11.item.zoom#

    [4:08 p.m. April 2, 2023] added here

    Folio 11 row 1 Right – 4 mushroom trees [old dark colors, 2020]

    caution: old dark colors, 2020
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f11.item.zoom
    4 mushroom trees: Panaeolus (so no inner caps), Liberty Cap semi-spear, cubensis blue cow, amanita
    caps: 11 = 3+3+2+3
    inner caps: 6 lib. 6 blue? (see drawing below). 8 red?
    https://www.lifesciencestudios.com – produces scientific illustrations
    Mushroom tree #1

    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/03/13/the-75-mushroom-trees-of-the-canterbury-psalter/#1

    Mushroom tree #2

    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/03/13/the-75-mushroom-trees-of-the-canterbury-psalter/#2

    Mushroom tree #3
    Mushroom tree #4

    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/03/13/the-75-mushroom-trees-of-the-canterbury-psalter/#4

    Folio 11 row 2 Left – 4 mushroom trees

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f11.item.zoom
    4 mushroom trees: Panaeolus (so no inner caps), Liberty Cap semi-spear, cubensis blue cow, amanita
    caps: 4
    inner caps: 6 lib, 6 blue? 0 red?
    Mushroom tree #5

    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/03/13/the-75-mushroom-trees-of-the-canterbury-psalter/#5

    Mushroom tree #6

    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/03/13/the-75-mushroom-trees-of-the-canterbury-psalter/#6

    Mushroom tree #7

    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/03/13/the-75-mushroom-trees-of-the-canterbury-psalter/#7

    Mushroom tree #8

    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/03/13/the-75-mushroom-trees-of-the-canterbury-psalter/#8

    Folio 11 row 3 Middle – 1 mushroom tree

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f11.item.zoom
    Mushroom tree #9

    Tree of Knowledge – Fresh Colors

    Crop by Cybermonk, uploaded to gallery Feb. 20, 2023
    https://egodeaththeory.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/tree-of-knowledge-canterbury-f11-row-3-right.jpg, local: “Tree of Knowledge Canterbury f11 row 3 right.jpg” 468 KB [6:15 p.m. Feb. 20, 2023]
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f11.item.zoom#

    Crop by Cybermonk, uploaded to gallery Feb. 20, 2023
    https://egodeaththeory.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/tree-of-knowledge-canterbury-f11-row-3-right.jpg, local: “Tree of Knowledge Canterbury f11 row 3 right.jpg” 468 KB [6:15 p.m. Feb. 20, 2023]
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f11.item.zoom#

    [4:08 p.m. April 2, 2023] adding here above, b/c sick of not having it where it’s supposed to be, WTF!!

    Folio 11 row 3 Right – 3 mushroom trees [dark colors 2020]

    url https://egodeaththeory.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/image-63.png –

    caution – dark colors 2020, use 2023 image instead
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f11.item.zoom
    msh trees: 3
    msh caps (outer): 5 + 6 + 4
    msh caps (inner): 10+
    BRANCHING SNAKES: 1
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f11.item.zoom
    Mushroom tree #10
    Mushroom tree #11
    Mushroom tree #12

    Folio 11 row 4 middle – Toiling: Eve Weaving, Adam Digging (3 mushroom trees; 1 hybrid vine-leaf/mushroom tree)

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f11.item.zoom

    f12 Folio 12 – panels – 2 mushroom trees (1 mushroom thicket, 1 mushroom ram), 1 lifted garment

    Folio 12 Top – Cain Abel – Two Mushroom Trees – 2 mushroom trees, 1 lifted garment

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f12.item.zoom
    Mushroom tree #16
    Mushroom tree #17

    f12 Folio 12 row 3: Sacrifice of Isaac (Mushroom Thicket)

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f12.item.zoom

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f12.item.zoom

    Folio 12 row 3 – Mushroom Ram Caught in Mushroom Thicket – 2 mushroom trees (1 mushroom thicket, 1 mushroom ram), 1 lifted garment

    Mushroom tree #18 – Sacrifice of Isaac (Mushroom thicket)

    f13 Folio 13 – Burning Bush (1 mushroom tree)

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f13.item.zoom
    Non-branching serpent-staff vs. branching bush
    Mushroom tree #19

    Roasting Salamander Dancing Man

    Folio 027v (Bodleian Library, Medieval Bestiary)
    Non-branching salamander-serpent vs. branching mushroom tree
    https://digital.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/objects/05f663d9-1fcb-4750-9ce3-03d0eb687648/surfaces/ca3ce84c-c589-4340-afa6-0733ecce5acf/

    f14 Folio 14 – 3×4 panels – 0 mushroom trees, 0 vine-leaf tree – Moses

    url https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f14.item.zoom

    f15 Folio 15 – panels – 7 mushroom trees, 1 vine-leaf tree

    Folio 15 – Devil – 3 mushroom trees (1 hybrid mushroom/vine-leaf tree)
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f15.item.zoom
    Mushroom tree #20
    Mushroom tree #21
    Mushroom tree #22

    Folio 15 – Leper – 4 mushroom trees

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f15.item.zoom
    Mushroom tree #23
    Mushroom tree #24
    Mushroom tree #25
    Mushroom tree #26

    f16 Folio 16 – 3×4 Image Panels

    f16 Folio 16 – Italian Pine (with Bird Nests) – 1 mushroom tree

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f16.item.zoom
    Mushroom tree #27 – nests tree

    f17 Folio 17 – Image Panel, Many Circles

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f17.item.zoom#

    f18 Folio 18 – 3×4 Image Panels

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f18.item.zoom

    f19 – Text Only

    f20 Folio 20 – 4 panels – 1 mushroom tree, 2 lifted garments

    Folio 20 – Jesus Sophia dancing – 2 lifted garments
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f20.item.zoom#

    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/12/13/lifted-garment-mushroom-folds-in-christian-greek-art-indicating-the-ecstatic-holy-spirit-altered-state/#Jesus-and-Dancer

    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/12/13/billowing-cloth-theme-in-greek-art-indicating-the-ecstatic-altered-state/

    Folio 20 row 2 – Hanging from Italian Pine by Arm, Water Source – 1 mushroom tree

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f20.item.zoom

    Folio 20 zoom – 1 mushroom tree

    Mushroom tree #28 – right arm hanging saving life, left hand dangling leading to death – re-crop to show this situation
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f20.item.zoom

    joke: Italian Umbrella Pines in Tree Canopy of One of the Italian Pines a.k.a. “Umbrella Pines” (Just to Clarify) a.k.a. “Parasols of Victory” for Those Really Astute Scholars

    f21 Holding Scrolls

    url https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f21.item.zoom

    f22 Folio 22 – 10 mushroom trees, 1 vine-leaf tree

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f22.item.zoom

    joke: Several Italian Pines, & Some Parasols of Victory as Well

    Folio 22 Left – 1 mushroom tree (2 in left)
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f22.item.zoom
    Mushroom tree #29
    Mushroom tree #30

    Joke: Detail of Italian Pine #2 of 10. Or of Parasol of Victory #2 of 10. Let the experts battle out this dispute amongst themselves. But DEFINITELY NOT mushrooms, Cubensis, Liberty Caps.

    Folio 22 Middle – 5 mushroom trees

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f22.item.zoom
    Mushroom tree #31
    Mushroom tree #32
    Mushroom tree #33
    Mushroom tree #34
    Mushroom tree #35

    joke: 5 Italian Pines, 0 Parasols of Victory. Or the reverse. Anyways, Def Not Cubensis, Liberty Caps, & Amanita.

    Folio 22 Right – 3 mushroom trees
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f22.item.zoom
    Mushroom tree #36
    Mushroom tree #37
    Mushroom tree #38

    joke: 0 Italian Pines, 5 Parasols of Victory. Or the reverse. Anyways, Def Not Cubensis, Liberty Caps, & Amanita.

    f23 Folio 23 – the letter ‘Q’ – 000 Q tail is Serpent Like Golden Psalter

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f23.item.zoom

    f24: text only

    f25 Folio 25 – Absalom – 1 mushroom tree, 2 vine-leaf trees, 2 lifted garment

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    Old Dark Tones
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f25.item.zoom
    Mushroom tree #39

    f26

    f27 YI Tree Touching Tower

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    f28 text only

    f29 Folio 29 – 1 mushroom tree

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f29.item.zoom
    Mushroom tree #40

    f32 Folio 32 – 2 mushroom trees, 1 vine-leaf tree

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f32.item.zoom
    Mushroom tree #41
    Mushroom tree #42

    f34 Folio 34 – 5 mushroom trees

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f34.item.zoom
    Mushroom tree #43
    Mushroom tree #44
    Mushroom tree #45
    Mushroom tree #46
    Mushroom tree #47

    f38 Folio 38 – 2 mushroom trees, 3 lifted garment

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f38.item.zoom
    Mushroom tree #48
    Mushroom tree #49

    f40 Folio 40 – 1 mushroom tree, 2 vine-leaf trees, 6 lifted garments

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f40.item.zoom
    Mushroom tree #50

    f47 Folio 47 – 2 mushroom trees, 1 lifted garment

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    • tearing down egoic thinking in loosecog
    • scale balance king control agent
    • branching Y’s touch demon control instability
    • No left arm
    f47 2020 Dark Colors
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f47.item.zoom
    Mushroom tree #51
    Mushroom tree #52

    f47 Demolition

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    f49 Folio 49 – 2 mushroom trees, 1 vine-leaf tree, 3 lifted garments

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f49.item.zoom

    Folio 49 Left – 1 mushroom tree

    Mushroom tree #53
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f49.item.zoom

    Folio 49 Middle – Gavel

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f49.item.zoom

    Folio 49 Right – Detail (a Scroll Is Above It) – 1 mushroom tree

    Mushroom tree #54
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f49.item.zoom

    Folio 49 – Billowing Holy Spirit Garment Lifting – 1 mushroom tree, 1 vine-leaf tree, 1 lifted garment

    Dec 13 2020 9:17 a.m. — check John Rush book re: garment erection.

    I propose that this theme of Christian art with garment lifted to the right, and looking back and up to the right, is equivalent to Greek art with billowing cloth.

    Experiment to run; hypothesis: in Greek & Christian art, the billowing cloth indicating the the Holy Spirit altered state is usually to the left; to the figure’s right side.

    Two angels with garment lifted to their right, with vaguely mushroom-shaped fold. A recurring theme in this artist’s work in the Canterbury Psalter — a given explanandum.
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f49.item.zoom

    f51 Folio 51 – Left Branching, Right Non-Branching Italian Pines – 1 mushroom tree, 2 vine-leaf trees, 1 lifted garment

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f51.item.zoom

    joke: Left Branching, Right Non-Branching Italian Pines – or Is It Parasols of Victory?? Only the Experts Know for Sure, But Definitely Not Mushrooms

    Folio 51 Hi-Res Detail Zoom – 1 mushroom tree

    Mushroom tree #55

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=cubensis

    https://innervisions.nl/wp-content/themes/BLANK-Theme/images/big/zauberpilze-sporen-psilocybe-cubensis-amazonian.jpg

    f53 Folio 53

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f53.item.zoom

    Folio 53 detail – Branching Left, Debranched Right – 1 mushroom tree, 2 vine-leaf trees, 1 wheat tree

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f53.item.zoom
    Mushroom tree #56

    f55 Folio 55 – 3 mushroom trees, 2 vine-leaf tree, 1 lifted garment

    Folio 55 Detail – 3 mushroom trees, 1 vine-leaf tree

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f55.item.zoom
    Mushroom tree #57
    Mushroom tree #58
    Mushroom tree #59

    f57 Folio 57 – 1 mushroom tree, 1 vine-leaf trees, 1 lifted garment

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f57.item.zoom
    Mushroom tree #60

    f60 Folio 60 – 3 mushroom trees, 2 vine-leaf trees, 1 lifted garment

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f60.item.zoom
    Mushroom tree #61
    Mushroom tree #62
    Mushroom tree #63

    f64 Folio 64 – 2 vine-leaf trees, 1 raised garment

    deer with antlers

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f64.item.zoom#

    f73 Folio 73 – 2 mushroom trees, 3 raised garments

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f73.item.zoom

    Mushroom tree #64
    Mushroom tree #65

    f76 Folio 76 Detail – 1 mushroom tree

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f76.item.zoom
    Mushroom tree #66

    f78 Folio 78 Detail – Umbrella Pines in Tree Canopy – 1 mushroom tree, 2 vine-leaf trees

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f78.item.zoom
    Mushroom tree #67

    f82 Folio 82 – 3 mothers – 1 vine-leaf tree, 1 raised garment

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f82.item.zoom

    f88 Folio 88 (not shown) – Pitcher table – 3 vine-leaf trees

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f88.item.zoom

    f90 Folio 90 (not shown) – River boats – 1 lifted garment

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f90.item.zoom

    f92 Folio 92 – 2 vine-leaf trees

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f92.item.zoom

    joke: Does Brinckmann Consider These to Be “Vine Leaves”? Vine = Non-Branching

    f96 Folio 96- Fountain scourges – 1 vine-leaf tree

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f96.item.zoom

    f98 Folio 98 – Detail – 1 mushroom tree

    Mushroom tree #68
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f98.item.zoom

    Folio 98 – Vine Leaf Tree Detail – 1 vine-leaf trees

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f98.item.zoom

    f102 Folio 102 – Vine Leaf Tree Detail – 2 vine-leaf trees

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f102.item.zoom

    f104 Folio 104 – 5 vine-leaf trees (broken from storm)

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f104.item.zoom

    f107 – 1 mushroom tree, 2 YI vine-leaf trees, One Touching Sun, one Touching Moon

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    Features:

    • The sun is above the I of the YI tree
    • holding up in ossuary by right hand, like f177
    • Note important lesson learned: I found this overall image by a scattered isolated crop of upper left vine leaf tree that looks like key tree in f177. PREVIOUS Previously I only extracted crops of msh tree – bad idea. Show entire panel especially if contains any msh trees.

    f107 – Lifted from Ossuary

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    f107 oh look at this, a YI tree with scroll opened touching non-branching I! touching sun light [9:21 a.m. April 4, 2023]

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f107.item.zoom

    f107 Folio 107 Detail – 1 mushroom tree, 2 vine-leaf tree

    top is YI in middle: ~~

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f107.item.zoom
    Mushroom tree #69

    f108: text only

    f109 – 1 mushroom tree

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    Features:

    • todo: analyze

    f109 Folio 109 Detail – 1 mushroom tree

    Mushroom tree #70
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f109.item.zoom

    f115 Folio 115 – Banner – 0 0 0

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f115.item.zoom

    f118 Folio 118 – Musicians – 1 vine-leaf tree

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f118.item.zoom

    f122 Folio 122 – Crucified upside down – 2 lifted garments

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f122.item.zoom

    f126 Folio 126 – Double lion – 2 vine-leaf trees

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f126.item.zoom

    f131 Folio 131 – Filling fountain – 000

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f131.item.zoom

    f134 Folio 134 – Leg-hanging Mushroom Tree/ Sword with Trained, Self-Threatening Psalter Reader – 1 mushroom tree, 1 vine-leaf tree, 1 lifted garment, mushroom hem folds

    Hanging from Right Leg in Mushroom Tree (Canterbury Psalter f134) – Catalog of Image Crops
    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/07/19/psalter-rows/

    Crop by Cybermonk
    https://egodeaththeory.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/eadwine-leg-balancing-image-2023-01-09.png

    Proof that the Canterbury Psalter’s Leg-

    Old Dark Dull Colors
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f134.item.zoom

    Folio 134 Detail – 1 mushroom tree, 1 vine-leaf tree

    Mushroom tree #71

    old dull colors:

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f134.item.zoom
    https://egodeaththeory.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/image-130.png?w=1024

    f141 Folio 141 – Leper demons – 000

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f141.item.zoom

    f145 Folio 145 -1 mushroom tree, mushroom eaves

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f145.item.zoom

    Folio 145 Detail – Right-side Debranched – 1 mushroom tree

    Mushroom tree #72
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f145.item.zoom

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=cubensis

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=mushroom+%22liberty+cap%22

    https://innervisions.nl/wp-content/themes/BLANK-Theme/images/big/zauberpilze-sporen-psilocybe-cubensis-amazonian.jpg

    f149 Folio 149 – 000

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f149.item.zoom

    f156 Folio 156 Detail – An Almost Tree-Looking Tree (not Eadwine)

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f156.item.zoom

    f159 Folio 159 – Harp – 000

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f159.item.zoom#

    f161 Folio 161 – God in bed – 000

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f161.item.zoom

    f166 Folio 166 – Horn spill – 1 lifted garment

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f166.item.zoom

    f177 Folio 177 – 4 Horses, Right-Standing Guy, Egodeath Community, Storing & Weighing Out

    Crop and decoding by Cybermonk [11:56 p.m. March 4, 2023]
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    Features:

    • Horses looking at non branching right trunk cap, and at right hands.
    • The list is in my branching-message mushroom trees article, see that. Essentially cleared the way to decode entire image March 6, 2023.

    Article title:
    Branching-Message Mushroom Trees: Psychedelic Eternalism Depicted in Medieval Art as Branching Mushrooms, Handedness, and Non-Branching
    Section:
    Standing on Right Leg Supported by Right Hand (Canterbury)
    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2023/02/16/branching-message-mushroom-trees-psychedelic-eternalism-depicted-in-medieval-art-as-branching-mushrooms-handedness-and-non-branching/#Extreme-Standing-Right-Leg

    Right-hand Debranched – 1 mushroom tree, 2 vine-leaf trees, 1 left/right hand

    Use unbeatably extreme lens of the Theory of Psychedelic Cybernetic Eternalism, don’t allow any more extreme interp to slip in.

    Eadwine Horses Looking Smiling at Non-Branching Cap and God Holding Up Guy by Right Hand
    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2023/02/28/eadwine-horses-looking-smiling-at-non-branching-cap-and-god-holding-up-guy-by-right-hand/

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f177.item.zoom#
    Old Dull 2020 Version Before They Saw My Site and Fixed Their Colors
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f177.item.zoom

    Folio 177 Detail – 1 mushroom tree, 1 vine-leaf trees, 1 left/right leg

    Left hand and Left foot (the egoic, possibility-branching worldmodel) giving no foundation/stability. Depending on God’s hand from the cloud holding Right hand, and Right foot holding one up (the transcendent, pre-existence worldmodel).
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    Mushroom tree #73

    f186 Folio 186 – Two bulls altar – 2 lifted garments

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f186.item.zoom#

    f190 Folio 190 – 2 vine-leaf trees

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f190.item.zoom#

    f193 Folio 193 – 2 mushroom trees, 1 raised garment

    Folio 193 Detail Left – 1 mushroom tree

    Mushroom tree #74
    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f193.item.zoom

    Folio 193 Detail Right – Garment Lifted – 1 mushroom tree, 1 lifted garment

    Mushroom tree #75
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    Hybrid or Borderline Vine-Leaf/Mushroom Trees (move up into per-folio sections)

    folio 102 upper right – round leaf caps:

    126 top center (double lion):

    branching veil underside cap

    f177 lower left, 3 leaf caps:

    f107 oh look at this, a YI tree with scroll opened touching non-branching I! [9:21 a.m. April 4, 2023]

    https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f107.item.zoom

    end

    Mithraism – Think with the Female+Male Mind of Mithras

    Site Map

    Contents:

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tauroctony

    Incoming Ideas/Materials

    Proof that I haven’t had any new ideas since 1997:

    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/12/13/egodeath-yahoo-group-digest-111/#message5629 — On November 23, 2011, I wrote:

    Subject: Must adopt Heimarmene b/c coherence & power
    Mithraism some tauroctonys show:
    one torch flame held up above cave ceiling, lighting-up (making us perceive) Sol, the uncontrollable injector of command-thoughts into the mind, as a control-thought-stream ray; and
    the other torch held down below the bull, lighting-up (making us perceive) the hiemarmene-snake underneath us — the hidden, vine-shaped rail that we are steered and forced along like in a haunted house carnival ride, or the branch-path a squirrel follows from the trunk to the branch the squirrel ends up at, or like a snake winding up a tree.

    Thus:
    The higher, Pri1 referent that metaphors represent and mushrooms make us perceive, is personal noncontrol (commands are forced into the mind by Sol through rays of control), and
    The lesser, Pri2 referent that metaphors represent and mushrooms make us perceive, is frozen worldvine-heimarmene (the control-commands we receive, and all our thoughts, are pre-programmed in the sense of pre laid out along our path through life.
    Mushrooms are incidental, preliminary, once they have put us in the loosecog state and are lighting-up portions of the mind’s cave we couldn’t perceive in the OSC.

    Apologetics for heimarmene

    THE CRYSTALLINE [ie coherent] MODEL OF CTET

    THE CRYSTALLINE PERFECT COHERENCE OF THE CRYSTALLINE BLOCK-UNIVERSE MODEL

    The Theory and the initiate adopts heim b/c heim is perfect coherence, simplicity, comprehensibility, perfectly organized, 100% organized and specific. Perfect 100% explanatory coherence and power with no disadvantages (that it kills fw is to be counted as a tremendous advantage, not a disadv)

    If your goal is complete conceptual coherence and a specific mmodel (100% tangibly comprehensibly specifiable, visualizable), then, heim co-entails nonctrl.


    main central idea: cyb, receiver-and-executor of thoughts, vs. source of thoughts
    secondary idea: heim, worldline, worldvine-path, snake-shaped worldvine, circuit board trace, insulated electrically conductive wire


    Copyright (C) 2011 Michael Hoffman. All Rights Reserved.

    Consciously Identifying with Mithras (Female/ Passive/ Control-Thought Receiver), Seeing Lack of Control Over Sol (Male/ Fate-Ruled Control-Thought Inserter)

    We tend to see Mithras as someone other than ourselves, but actually, that’s a half-truth.

    The altered-state mind identifies with not the usual self-concept, but identifies as god-mode thinking instead; god-mode thinking possesses the mind and the identity. The mind in altered state identifies as Mithras —
    the higher, trans-personal, awareness of true ruler behind the scenes (sol)
    rather than as the usual
    lower, egoic, pseudo-autonomous, local locus of control.

    Here I’m thinking the opposite of what I’d expect: I’m thinking that the mind, as personal control system, identifies with Mithras-thinking, and has no control over Sol. So I have 3 control-locsuses:

    • Luna; the usual
      lower, egoic, pseudo-autonomous, local locus of control.
    • Sol, the control-thought inserter, which is always uncontrollable
    • The mind of Mithras; my local control system but now identified as *higher* local, personal thinking; aware of uncontrollability of Sol the male control-thought inserter.

    To my surprise, the above breakout seems realistic. I expected something more like:

    • An alien separate entity, Mithras, takes over the local mind, and local mind is alienated from Mithras, and takes a stance against Mithras. (that’s not what happens)
    • As the local mind, I’m identified with Sol (control-thought inserter), against far-away Mithras who I’m not id’d w/. (But, that’s not what happens.)

    Mithras on the bull is not the usual personal egoic control agent idenity; Mithras is you, but not the usual the ordinary state of consciousness identity of you; Mithras is one’s other, higher self-identity.

    Mithras is the higher, awakened self-identity, in contrast to the accustomed, lower identity.

    This does not mean that the mind now gains control over its control-thought inserter.

    It just means that the mind-of-Mithras, which is now my mind/identity, is aware, of *not* having control over the control-thought inserter.

    The mind of Mithras is a helpless female mind, that is made by Sol to see the workings of the mind, and thus to sacrifice.

    Sol, the worldline of control-thought inserter of thoughts, is forced to makes Mithra (the mind’s identity in its awake mode) sacrifice and disprove false power.

    In the pact of Sol and Mithras, it is debatable whether Mithras is dominant, or Sol is dominant.

    Mithras (the mind’s way of thinking in altered state), turns to look back behind virtual egoic control system, to look at Sol, the control-thought inserter, and away from the usual Luna (the passive control-thought receptacle).

    Another control-locus identity is the Lion/fire figure outside the Zodiac, outside the fate-ruled cosmos.

    Mithras is not all-dominant as I thought/expected; Mithras is female, passive, and helplessly looking back at Sol, the control-thought inserter.

    Mithras is made to see Sol, thus made to sacrifice the bull, the power-claim of the virtual egoic control agent.

    General key:

    • Mithras is you.
    • Luna is you.
    • Sol is you.
    • Lion-headed snake-wrapped figure is you.
    • The torch-holders are you.

    Hope this helps.

    • Mithras is which aspect of you? __ The higher, god-mode thinking, trans-personal identification.
    • Luna is which aspect of you? __ The lower, egoic, pseudo-autonomous, local locus of control.
    • Sol is which aspect of you? __
    • Lion-headed snake-wrapped figure is which aspect of you? __
    • The torch-holders are which aspect of you? __

    Jorjani Asserts Mithraism’s Wine Was Amanita

    Yet more incontrovertible proof that the mixed wine of all Hellenistic Mystery Religions is native Christmas shamans’ secret Amanita cult!

    🎄🍄🦌🦌🦌🦌🛷🎅🎁

    Right here, this proves there are no mushrooms in Christian art. I can apply the same quality of Reasoning that the Minimal Mushroom theorists use:

    1. According to the mushroom theory of Christianity, there’s a “secret Amanita Christian cult”.
    2. But here we have a non-Christian Mystery Religion using Amanita.
    3. Therefore, the “secret Amanita Christian cult” theory is debunked.
    4. Therefore, there are no mushrooms in Christian art.

    Q.E.D.

    Jason Jorjani asserts:
    “They also drank wine at these Mithraeum communion banquets, and the wine was laced with Amanita muscaria mushrooms, which were intended to produce a kind of out-of-body experience.” 2:20
    Video:
    Mithraism with Jason Reza Jorjani
    YT ch: New Thinking Allowed with Jeffrey Mishlove
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIQ0i_1eoJ8&t=135s
    Some say AM is a poor pick and Psilocybe is more ergonomic. Those people are heretics contradicting the prophet, John Allegro.

    It’s a tautology to say “I agree with half and disagree with half of Jorjani.”

    The important thing is, I AGREE WITH THE GOOD IMPORTANT HALF OF WHAT JORJANI GETS RIGHT: Mushrooms + David Ulansey’s theory of transcending fate & time.

    42:40 “the god of time & fate, Mithra in combat with the lord of time and fate”

    44:00 “overcoming fatalism, exteriorizing the dark side of the human psyche… fighting evil as if it’s an independent force outside of yourself is the worst form of fatalism.

    “So, overcoming fatalism and reclaiming your free will and human self-determination is the same thing as being able to integrate the shadow side of the human psyche. That was the esoteric project of Mithraism.”

    46:20 “amenable to taking elements of ancient israelite … monotheism that integrates the shadow side of the human psyche into a kind of programme for the cultivation of higher consciousness.”

    “Shamanic Mithraic magic…” Calling Mystery Religion “shamanic” is like calling Christian contemplation “Meditation”.

    32:20 “Mithraism is aiming for an integrated state of consciousness beyond dualistic; attempts to integrate the shadow side of the human psyche rather than suppress it.”

    21:30 – “the god of time & fate, Chronos, is a lion-headed gorgon-headed deity whose body is entwined by a serpent. Perseus gives Mithras Perseus …. his harpe sword for Medusa’s head, or the dagger for Mithras slays bull as he looks away …”

    Don’t say “Mithras looks away”; say “Mithras turns to look to the right, looking back behind him, and up, at Sol, who Mithras has made a pact with.”

    If anything, Mithras looks away from Luna, not “looks away from the bull”.

    Mithras
    {born from rock holding torch light in one hand, dagger knife in other hand} = to perceive is to sacrifice
    [3:28 p.m. December 12, 2020]

    Video:
    Cult of Mithras Explained
    ch: ReligionForBreakfast, Apr 18 2017
    Images of Mithras {born from rock holding torch light in left hand, dagger/knife in right hand} at 11:20 = 680s
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlF0gVedODE&t=680s

    Mithras’ Right Foot on Ground, Left Foot on Powerless Bull

    Noticed today; discovered yesterday/today: [December 11 & 12, 2020]: Mithra’s:

    • Right foot is on the ground.
    • Left foot lifted resting on the bull which is dying.
    • Right hand stabs (blade inserted into wound) the bull in the bull’s powerful shoulder.
    • Left hand not visible.

    How often is {billowing cape} shown to the right?

    The Two Torches:
    {torch making perceptible what’s above},
    {torch making perceptible what’s below}

    {torch upward} = seeing/observing/experiencing fatedness

    {torch downward} = seeing/observing/experiencing the uncontrollable source of control-thoughts

    ____

    {torch upward} makes cosmic fatedness perceptible.

    {torch downward} makes the control-thought injector and its frozen worldline perceptible.

    In the mushroom altered state.

    ____

    {look underneath} = perceive the frozen pre-existing worldline of personal control-thoughts

    {look back behind you} = perceive the uncontrollable control-thought injector

    {look above you} = perceive cosmic fatedness, heimarmene, pre-existence; eternalism

    • The control-thought inserter = Sol, the male locus of control, uncontrollable by Luna.
    • The control-thought receptacle = Luna, the female locus of control; the egoic virtual locus of autonomous control-power.

    Brittle-minded Idiots with an 8th-Grade Level, 1-Dimensional Conception of “Evidence” & “Claims”

    THE EGODEATH THEORY WOULDN’T EXIST AND I WOULDN’T BE WRITING THESE PAGES, UNLESS I BELIEVED THAT EVERY BOOK AND COMMENTARY AND ARTICLE — AND DISCUSSION-AREA “MOD” — IS CLUELESS CRAP THAT’S HALF FULL OF SH!T.

    MOVE OVER, INCOMPETENTS; I’M DRIVING THIS THING.

    http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/mithras/display.php?page=cautes_and_cautopates

    Torch upward makes visible cosmic fatedness.

    Torch downward [9:08 am December 12, 2020] makes visible the worldline of the control-thought injector, in the covered basket underneath the {egoic bull personal control system; personal virtual egoic control agent}.

    One image, below, shows a cista mystica snake basket.

    PantherX rightly comments “Couldn’t the torchbearers just as well symbolize spiritual enlightenment? [instead of literal astrological events]”

    A fkkin DUMBASS “MOD”🔫 says a dimwit half-truth in response:

    “Mithras studies are bedevilled by speculation. We cannot make such claims unless we have some actual evidence, and we do not.”

    F*ck you, idiot — Mithraism studies would be NOWHERE without various types of what you maliciously and 1-dimensionally smear as “claims“, together with various types of “actual evidence”.

    You’re full of sh!t, and the gist of PantherX’ comment is correct, spot-on, and supported by evidence of appropriate type.

    Who the f made you gatekeeper, dumbass retard, trying to retard Mithraism studies: “We do not.” What fkking 1-DIMENSIONAL THINKING!

    Either we “have evidence” or “do not have evidence”, according to this puerile 8th-grade-level argumentation/wording.

    Jesus, hasn’t anyone read Ken Wilber’s great article, at start of his book Eye to Eye?

    F*cking DUMBASS THOUGHT-BLOCKING MODs like this is why I broke-off and created the Egodeath Yahoo Group, from the GnosticsMillenium & JesusMysteries discussion groups.

    Go to hell, idiot mods! Fkking retards. What a thought-blocking jerk.

    The article itself reports speculations including:

    • The torch-bearers represent the light of the sun rising & the light of the sun setting.
    • Cautopates represents death; Cautes represents new life.

    PantherX’s basic decoding-hypothesis,
    {torch} = spiritual enlightenment
    is much closer to correct and pertinent, than the proposals reported in the article/page.

    {torch upward} = mushrooms make the mind able to see fatedness

    {torch downward} = mushrooms make the mind able to see the normally hidden, uncontrollable source of control-thoughts

    ___

    {torch upward} = seeing/observing/experiencing fatedness

    {torch downward} = seeing/observing/experiencing the uncontrollable source of control-thoughts

    Is the “Mod” going to censor the article, too, because “actual evidence … We have none” so therefore “We cannot make such claims“?

    That’s his brittle, obnoxious word, his namecalling of PantherX’s decoding-proposal as “claims”.

    What a HORRIBLE, INEFFECTIVE model of figuring sh!t out, this “Mod” has!

    Science would make *no* progress with such a brittle, hamfisted “no thinking allowed” mentality like his.

    Essay Eye to Eye, in book Eye to Eye, by Ken Wilber

    The below section is copied from my WordPress page
    Perennialist Religionism vs. Scientific Hanegraaffism
    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/10/21/perennialist-religionism-vs-scientific-hanegraaffism/ —

    Ken Wilber’s first two essays in the book Eye to Eye (1983) disprove the false dichotomy, the incorrect notion that “observation” only applies to material science. I read this book around 1988. In the 2001 3rd Edition Preface, Wilber writes (condensed), in two fully quotable paragraphs:

    “The essay “Eye to Eye” uses the simple three (the eye of flesh, the eye of mind, and the eye of contemplation) and suggests how even that simple scheme can shed considerable light on many recalcitrant philosophical and psychological dilemmas. “Eye to Eye” is still one of my favorite essays; the points it makes are more crucial than ever, since the orthodox mind, still embedded in scientific materialism, is deft to higher or deeper truths.”

    [‘deft to’ — Wilber must mean ‘deaf to’ or possibly ‘daft regarding’ (silly; foolish). ‘deft’ means skillful, quick, adept”]

    “The essay “The Problem of Proof” presents a full-spectrum empiricism: sensory, mental, and spiritual experience, all of which are equally experiential and can be validated, with evidence that is open to confirmation or rejection by the community.”

    Eye to Eye: The Quest for the New Paradigm
    Ken Wilber
    3rd Ed. (with new Preface)
    https://amzn.com/157062741X

    / end of section about eye to eye copied from my other WordPress page

    Mithraism — Think with the Female-Male Mind of Mithras, Look at Sol not Just Luna, Blade Ego-Bull and Its World, in Its Vulnerable Control-thought Receptacle

    Shine torch light on the snake in the covered basket underneath the projected-image, “virtual egoic control agent” mask layer.

    Remember the worldline of the control-thought injector, don’t forget that experiential perspective and revert to reincarnation into soul-thinking; freewill-premised, branching-possibilities-steering control-thinking.

    The mind perceiving its puppethood to Heimarmene-Fatedness-Eternalism, is to “transcend” eternalism, to transcend its puppethood.

    Article:
    The Roman Cult of Mithras
    http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/mithras/display.php?page=main

    The shine-light-on-hidden-sh!t-going-on-in-your-control-power-center that snake underneath the empty mask as if the puppet/reflection local locus of control were autonomous when contrrol-thoughts are coming in unstoppably and uncontrollably, light makes visible through elevated –

    Female-&-male Mithras turns to look back behind the mask of personal egoic control agent at Sol the real source of control , local control is at its mercy, at the mercy of whatever pre-existing control thoughts are in the near-future in the worldline of the control-thought inserter, at that time.

    The mind is eternally laid out with those control-thoughts inserted at each time along the worldline of the control-thought-inserter — the snake we’re at the mercy of.

    Mithras turns to remember and hang onto eternalism-thinking , and not turn to look left toward Luna and forget, and fall back into soul freewill possibilism-thinking and forget

    DON’T FORGET ETERNALISM-THINKING

    The mind seeks clear thinking regarding the personal control system, leads to purify/ purge/ disprove-away/ un-pollute.

    If the goal is to get rid of or break free from possibilism-thinking, because it’s powerless and unstable and leads to cybernetic death/cancellation/complete overcoming of control/ loss of ballast of control.

    This is actually can be similar to why McFakea stopped using the flesh of christ, he described meaningless of life but in some ways that’s similar to becoming able to, made able to think anything, to will anything, having no values, transcending usual thinking, values, ballast; shipwreck storm while possibilism-thinking remains.

    possibilism-thinking + altered state = giving birth to a lion-faced serpent monster.

    Female-&-male god Mithras instead of looking at Luna, he now looks at the hidden behind his projected mask of Luna, who was virgin, turns to the right in the eternalism-thinking direction, turning to look back to the right at Cybernetic theory.

    Thinking with the mind of Mithras, torch light raising awareness and looking down at the double worldline of the distinct control-thought receptacle and control-thought injector.

    The mushroomed mind now is brought to perceive the true locus of control, the hand hidden inside the puppet, now illuminated, made visible by the mushroom sacred self-sacrificing meal, the poison meal poisoning any remaining impurity, pollution, traces of egoic possibilism-thinking.

    The mental conversion from possibilism-thinking to eternalism-thinking.

    From the possibilism mental worldmodel of time, self, possibility, and control, to the eternalism mental worldmodel of time, self, possibility, and control.

    TRANSFORMED FROM BRANCHING-POSSIBILITIES-THINKING TO PRE-EXISTENCE-THINKING.

    “Branching-possibilities” = possibilism-thinking.

    “Pre-existence” = eternalism-thinking.

    That is verbose common words common parlance to say with pro jargon, efficiency, conciseness, of uncommon words used by the mind jammers. uncommon yet there are other meanings of these tech terms.

    transformed from possibilism-thinking to eternalism-thinking

    transformation of the mental worldmodel from possibilism-thinking to eternalism-thinking

    cista mystica snake basket
    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=cista+mystica+snake+basket
    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=cista+mystica

    Established clearly: “Look down underneath” definitely means “look at the cista mystica; the normally hidden snake-carved-in-rock”; “look at hidden worldline underneath/behind the mind’s personal control-thinking, frozen snake-shaped source of personal control-thoughts.

    {look underneath] = perceive the frozen pre-existing worldline of personal control-thoughts

    {look back behind you] = perceive the uncontrollable control-thought injector

    {look above you] = perceive cosmic fatednes, heimarmene, pre-existence; eternalism

    WAY TOO EASY TO OVERLOOK: THE MEDIUM. THIS SNAKE IS CARVED FROZEN IN ROCK.

    WE ARE LITERALLY SEEING, PERCEIVING, & LOOKING AT — LIT BY TORCH LIGHT IN THE UNDERGROUND DARK ROCK MITHRAUM CAVE,

    A SNAKE EMBEDDED FROZEN IN ROCK, MADE VISIBLE BY TORCH LIGHT POINTED DOWN UNDERNEATH

    A LITERAL CARVING OF A SNAKE EMBEDDED FROZEN IN ACTUAL LITERAL ROCK, MADE VISIBLE BY ACTUAL LITERAL TORCH LIGHT

    caduceus = message, about two worldlines intertwined, male and female serpent king & queen co-rulers, rebis one body has Mithras but a female nature sacrificed the luna crescent bull.

    The personal control system is revealed to consist of two distinct centers of power or apparent control locuses:

    • the control-thought injector
    • the control-thought receptacle

    Look away from luna as locus of control, look toward the true ruler – the control-thought inserter along its worldline, Sol. virtual egoic control agent (consciously structured/modellled around the ctrc control-thought receptacle mis-taken as-if autonoumous, looks away; does not see the snake basket, the control-thought injector.

    The control-thought injector is made visible to Sol.

    Sol = the mind when aware of the control-thought injector.

    Sol, unlike Luna, is able to see the workings of control in the mind, because the torch-bearer, giver of perceptibility, hands Sol a drinking horn of mushroom-wine. Mushroom = make perceptible rock snake in basket carved in rock.

    The bull’s shoulder is its egoic locus of control power.

    The egoic locus of control power is vulnerable to the control-thought inserter spear, become visible now in the snake in a basket.

    • blade = control-thought inserter,
    • serpent = the worldline of personal control-thoughts, of the blade, of the control-thought inserter, of the female+ now consciously is arrived the male part, the true ruler, the real locus of control & power. Not the projected and powerless female, control-thought receiver.

    All Mithraism Material from My 2006 Main Article

    Fatedness and Control in Astral Ascent Mysticism

    Heimarmene or universal fatedness was centrally important in ancient astrological cosmology (Barton 1994), and was a major theme in Hellenistic-Roman astral ascent mysticism and religion (Cumont 1960).

    Transcending astral fatedness involved ingesting holy food, ambrosial water, and astrological medicine (Fowden 1986).

    Astral ascent mysticism centers around the dangerous gateway or “fatal” boundary crossing – the sphere of the fixed stars – representing the apprehension of Heimarmene and its control of one’s thoughts.

    The stars wind around the world in a spiral pattern over time; this pattern is depicted by the Heimarmene-snake wrapped around the cosmos, cosmic egg, or Mithraic lion-headed gatekeeper figure.

    The Potential for Control Breakdown and Transformation

    Julius Caesar was authorized for power by his seizures, and the bull in his military’s Mithraic mystery-cult was wounded in the side, so the figure of Jesus was shown as similarly authorized by the spear-wound in his side, and the figure of the apostle Paul was portrayed as suffering from seizures.

    The ability to make self-control seize or cancel itself dramatically is an afflicting thorn (2 Cor. 12:7-10), hole, or wound in our side, the innate cybernetic governance-failure through which the new, transformed life is born.

    The new transcendence-aware self is given birth through the pride-killing disproof-wound in the side.

    Jupiter Optimus Maximus means ‘all-good’ and ‘all-powerful’, as is hoped for from a protective deity when one is vulnerable to awareness of Heimarmene in the intense mystic altered state.

    Mithras demonstrates that his arm wields control over the power of the bull’s shoulder. Sol is reconciled with Mithras in a pact, and given transcendent power. [ERROR – RECOGNIZING THAT SOL NOT LUNA WAS IN CONTROL THE ENTIRE TIME]

    Sol becomes [IS NOW RECOGNIZED AS THE] an authorized charioteer, steering the quadriga with Mithras, guided by Mercury (or Hermes), who is holding a Fatedness-snake on a time-pole.

    [ouch another “time-pole” half-on-target decoding — my December 2, 2013 lecture decoded {caduceus} message as:

    the pre-existing injecting of control-thoughts by the control-thought source
    +
    the pre-existing reception of control-thoughts by control-thought receiver
    …
    along the time-pole axis; “time-pole” = “pre-existence of future worldline of ctri & control-thought inserter + control-thought receiver, thus demonstrably no control… the mind of Mithras is the seeing of the fated unstoppability of control-thought injection.

    if I (the local virtual egoic locus of control) have no ability to stop my future pre-existing control-thoughts that my control-thought inserter is pre-existing injecting, ….

    i not only see powerlessness of control-thought receiver, i see relative powerlessness of control-thought inserter, ruled by Fate.

    I see a hierarchy of power/powerlessness.

    Breaking-Up the Quadriga Carving into 3 Scenes, to Describe the Elements of Each Isolated Scene

    top:
    Sol in altered state (billowing cape) steers the quadriga. Sol is the steersman.
    his steering is cast in rock.
    Able to perceive that Sol is the steersman carved into rock.
    Hermes in altered state makes Sol fly high to the perception of the real control-source, the sun.
    The mentality of Mithras turns to look back behind him to see this situation.

    middle:
    female-male Mithras shakes hands with Sol the steersman cast in rock, able to see the workings of fate-ruled control levels (both the control-thought inserter + control-thought receiver)

    bottom
    female-male Mithras with right hand controls, behind his mentality, control of the bull’s shoulder, control over personal control system’s power, Mithras stands (stability, groundedness), Sol kneels (perceives and remembers looking right, and sees the situation that Sol is the steersman controller frozen in rock with Mithras’ mentality in control over the will of the control-thought inserter (Sol).

    A New, Clarifying Approach:
    Arrange the Tauroctony Elements into a Hierarchy of Control-Power:
    What Is the Revealed Chain of Control?

    1. God the ultimate creator/controller of the block-universe world
    2. the block-universe world
    3. the control-thought inserter/injector
    4. the control-thought receiver/receptacle

    WHAT IS THE PERCEIVED/REVEALED CHAIN OF CONTROL?

    The perceived/revealed levels of control; chain of control

    (debatable/unclear – FIGURE IT OUT! — DONE.)

    In terms of Core theory / the Cybernetic theory:

    1. creator of the fate-controlled, pre-existing world
    2. fate-controlled, pre-existing block-universe {rock} world
    3. control-thought inserter/injector
    4. control-thought receiver/receptacle

    It turns out that
    the bull (the seemingly autonomous personal control system)
    is actually, under the hood/cover,
    a control-thought receiver/receptacle
    that is controlled by
    the control-thought inserter/injector {sol}
    which is controlled by
    the pre-existing worldline of personal control-thoughts
    which is controled by
    god/ Zeus/God/ the Creator/ the Lion
    outside the fate-controlled cosmos

    _____

    The mind changes:

    From: this simple-single locus-of-control:
    the bull (the seemingly autonomous personal control system)

    To: this control-hierarchy:
    God/ Zeus/ the Creator/ the Lion
    the pre-existing worldline of personal control-thoughts
    the control-thought inserter/injector {sol}
    a control-thought receiver/receptacle

    ____

    In terms of Mystery Religion mythemes:

    1. The trans-cosmic lion born outside of the rock
    2. The block universe/ snake (or m/f snake-pair)-in-rock/ pre-existence/ Fatedness
    3. Mithras
    4. Sol/charioteer
    5. Luna/ bull/ local virtual egoic locus of control, in the ordinary state of consciousness
    http://www.egodeath.com/images/egodeatharticle/HighRes/MithrasSolShoulder_HiRes.jpg

    http://www.egodeath.com/images/egodeatharticle/HighRes/SaturnChariot_HiRes.jpg
    child gets threatened-to-death, scythed

    [11:37 a.m. December 14, 2020] – chariot drawn by 2 Drakones =
    the mind’s personal control system is controlled by 2 snakes =
    controlled by 2 worldlines =
    controlled by 1 Male worldline + 1 Female worldline =
    the control-thought inserter/injector +
    the control-thought receiver/receptacle
    This perception of control-reality occurs in the fate-ruled sphere-and-gateway of the fixed stars (Heimarmene);

    Creator-> fate-> control-thought inserter> control-thought receiver [cfir]
    replaces
    childhood simple monolithic “autonomous control-agent” thinking [csm]
    monolithic “autonomous control-agent” thinking [macat]
    “autonomous control-agent” thinking [acat]
    monolithic autonomous control-agent [maca]
    autonomous control-agent [aca]

    Creator-> fate-> control-thought inserter> control-thought receiver
    replaces
    monolithic “autonomous control-agent” thinking

    Creator-> block universe-> control-thought inserter> control-thought receiver

    Creator-> block universe-> control-thought inserter> control-thought receiver
    replaces
    simple monolithic autonomous control-agent [smaca]
    simple monolithic control-agent [smca]
    monolithic control-agent [mca]

    Creator-> block universe-> control-thought inserter> control-thought receiver
    replaces:
    simple monolithic autonomous control-agent

    Tauroctony elements for Creator-> block universe-> control-thought inserter> control-thought receiver:

    snake in rock =
    the fate-controlled worldline frozen into the pre-existing block universe [fwfb]
    the worldline frozen into the block universe [wfbu]
    the worldline of control-thoughts frozen into the block universe [wctfbu]

    1. Lion outside fixed stars/heimarmene
    2. snake in rock – the fate-controlled worldline frozen into the pre-existing block universe
    3. Sol – the control-thought inserter/injector
    4. Luna – the control-thought receiver/receptacle

    self-sacrificing, self-threatening, ending the dominance/claim of lower thinking, sacrificing the centrality/origin-claim of the egoic locus-of-control power claim/assumption. by demonstrating the threatening of it, acknowledges the actual control-chain:

    1. God the ultimate creator/controller of the block-universe world
    2. the block-universe world
    3. the control-thought inserter/injector
    4. the control-thought receiver/receptacle

    Hekates’ chariot drawn by pair of drakones

    https://mrfelstead.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/xm10082164.jpg
    Euripides – The Medea – Voicethread Unit
    https://mrfelstead.wordpress.com/2012/09/28/medea-voicethread/
    Two dead figures.
    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/91/17/c2/9117c20037177bae90a01952d8d0fce5.jpg
    https://www.pinterest.com/catherine8610/greek-pottery/
    Greek Pottery
    Collection by Catherine Ingham
    Y-shaped laurel tree; as time advances, the single worldline is recognized as a pair partnerered pair of worldlines, control-thought inserter + control-thought receiver, when non-branching becomes visible/perceptible.
    Two dead figures.
    Sacrificing to End Battling the Thought-Source

    ‘Sacrifice’ is a mental attitude of cooperative dependence on that which gives thoughts, your will having been overcome and made to will its own demise as an empty delusion, turned against itself by now-revealed transcendent power.

    Sacrifice offers up and hands over your claim to effective independent power, as opposed to battling against your near-future self and the inherently overpowering source of all thoughts and movements of will. [a fate-ruled source of personal control-thoughts — at once, the control-thought inserter is all-powerful over the mind, and yet at the same time, that control-thought inserter is itself powerlessly subject to the Creator/ block universe/ even higher hidden source of control. in altered state becomes perceptible the whole chain of 3 levels of control:

    1. the Creator
    2. the pre-existing block universe
    3. the control-thought inserter/injector
    4. the control-thought receiver/receptacle

    The mind in altered state switches from “simple autonomy of control” thinking (the bull, Luna, the Maiden), to “multiple (like 4) levels-of-control” thinking:

    simple “virtual egoic autonomous locus of control” thinking:

    the ordinary state of consciousness: simple virtual egoic autonomous locus of control

    the altered state: multi-level control, with local non-control:
    The mind of Mithras (the Mithras-mode, Mithras-shaped mind; God-mode thinking) perceives and enables demonstration of this chain-of-control situation.

    1. Creator/god outside Fatedness; creator of the fate-controlled, pre-existing world
    2. the fate-controlled, pre-existing block-universe {rock} world
    3. the control-thought inserter/injector
    4. the control-thought receiver/receptacle

    practiced “[acro]/keyboard shortcuts” listing only:

    1. creator of the fate-controlled, pre-existing world
    2. fate-controlled, pre-existing block-universe {rock} world
    3. control-thought inserter/injector
    4. control-thought receiver/receptacle

    “Sacrificing your autonomy-claim, acknowledging your dependency on that which ultimately gives you your thoughts, brings mental peace and harmony and calms turmoil.

    You are relieved from increasing your attempt to grasp and secure power over your own power.

    You are relieved from testing the power of your autonomy and the limits of your self-control thoughts.

    Roman sacrificial altars are typically shown with a libation of concentrated, psychoactive unmixed wine being poured on the altar, which opens up a channel to the gods, along with the sacrificial animal such as the unresisting, cooperative bull.

    The sacrificer pouring the libation has a cloth behind the head, representing the spiritual ecstatic state, where awareness is positioned outside of the usual mind, perceiving its functioning.

    Mithras overpowering and sacrificing the bull represents the delusion of self-originated control-power being given over to the transcendent level, with Mithras’ arm wielding the bull’s shoulder and his knife piercing and fatally wounding it.

    The wound in the bull’s side indicates Mithras demonstrating his power over the bull’s control-power.

    Mithras wrestles and overpowers the initiate’s control of their will, reconfiguring their understanding of control-power to account for the transcendent givenness of one’s thoughts.

    Sol represents the mind’s awareness, which in the dissociative state is positioned ecstatically outside the mind’s functioning.

    The mind is possessed and overtaken by Mithras.

    Pure awareness passively watches the sacrificial disproof of the mind’s claim to wield independent personal control-power.

    A tauroctony fresco in a Mithraeum shows the self-command bull being sacrificed near the shoulder.

    A Heimarmene-snake is inevitably drawn toward ingesting the entheogenic blood; often the snake approaches a wine-mixing bowl below the bull instead.

    A blue-stemmed Psilocybe mushroom appears in Mithras’ leg and garment, with the stem proceeding through 7 steps, up to the stars.

    The billowing cape behind Mithras indicates the ecstatic state.

    The sphere of the fixed stars is shown on Mithra’s cape, inside the underworld cave.

    The god forcefully pins the bull, who is paralyzed and unable to stand.

    Mithras’ feminine features indicate the soul abducted and married by divine power.

    Mithras turns to knowingly look back behind the conventional self-concept to see the source of thoughts and movements of the will.

    Bibliography

    Hoffman, M. A., C. A. P. Ruck, and B. Staples. “The Entheogenic Eucharist of Mithras”. Entheos 2.1:13-46 (2002).

    Ulansey, D. “The Eighth Gate: The Mithraic Lion-Headed Figure and the Platonic World-Soul”. Forthcoming; online.

    / end of Mithraism material from my 2006 Main Article

    Ulansey: The Cosmic Mysteries of Mithras

    Article:
    The Cosmic Mysteries of Mithras
    David Ulansey
    move the pole star, transcend Heimarmene.
    http://www.mysterium.com/mithras.html

    Ulansey: Lion Standing On & Outside of the Sphere of the Fixed Stars – Heimarmene-Eternalism

    Article:
    The Eighth Gate: The Mithraic Lion-Headed Figure and the Platonic World-Soul
    David Ulansey
    http://www.mysterium.com/eighthgate.html

    [Below is a copy of this Ulansey article for markup. My comments in square brackets. Emphasis added. Condensed for clarity. -mh]

    In the Barberini mithraeum in Rome, a serpent-entwined figure standing on a globe is depicted floating in the center of a zodiac which arches above the bull-slaying scene. Or, to be more precise, the globe on which the figure is standing is located in the zodiac, while the figure’s body extends above the zodiac into the region just beyond it.
    ____

    Mithraic leontocephaline or lion-headed figure always has a snake winding around him.

    [within the snake-wrapped cosmos, in the altered state, we perceive that we are rock, wrapped in a rock snake, imprisoned in our {rock worldline prison/jail}; a person’s life is embedded imprisoned captive in rock, along a snake-shaped path -mh]

    His position at the level of the zodiac [sphere of the fixed stars; Heimarmene] and just beyond suggests that there is a special connection between the leontocephaline and the region of the zodiac [fatedness; being ruled and controlled helplessly by fate, by eternalism].

    The body of the leontocephaline is decorated with the zodiac, or stands on a globe representing the sphere of the fixed stars, on which the zodiac is located.

    ____

    This connection between the leontocephaline and the zodiac can be clarified by noticing that in Origen’s Contra Celsum, Celsus describes a Mithraic symbol consisting of a ladder with seven gates, each associated with one of the seven planets [first the Moon, Mercury, Venus, the Sun, Mars, Jupiter, then Saturn], while at the top there is an eighth gate associated with the sphere of the fixed stars and leading to the region beyond that sphere.

    [Beyond stars = level 9 or 10, the Empyrium, the dwelling place of God and of all the Elect; see my page:
    Ptolemaic Astral Ascent Mysticism
    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/11/10/ptolemaic-astral-ascent-mysticism/ ]

    The leontocephaline holds the key to the celestial gates

    [the key = transformation of the mental worldmodel from possibilism to eternalism. This key gets the initiated mind into the domain of eternalism and of transcending eternalism. The key to the gateway to enter “the Eighth and Ninth” spheres/regions -mh]

    The leontocephaline is never linked in Mithraic iconography with any of the planets [spheres-and-gateways #1-7], but is clearly associated with the zodiac [sphere-and-gaetway #8], he has a special connection with Celsus’ eighth gate— that of the sphere of the fixed stars *AND* the realm beyond it— since it is on that sphere that the zodiac lies.

    [It is a fallacy, to separate:

    • The 7th, final planetary sphere-and-gateway, Saturn, scyther-away of childhood-thinking, from
    • The 8th sphere, the sphere-and-gateway of the fixed-stars, which rules over the cosmos with fatedness/ eternalism/ heimarmene.

    The spheres-and-gateways of Saturn and fixed stars are one and the same.

    Saturn = sphere of fixed stars = the mind is made to sacrifice possibilism-thinking while the mind is made to enter the domain of eternalism-thinking (no-free-will/ heimarmene/ dependent puppethood/ eternalism).

    Of course this proposal is tantamount to collapsing the entire model of “sequence of initiations” into a single moment-of-complete- all-at-once initiation.

    The function of separating the Saturn gateway from the fixed-stars Zodiac gateway, is to express “initiation / purification by stages, in a series of 9 initiations”.

    –mh]

    ____

    In addition, the painting at Barberini depicts the region outside of the zodiac— into which the leontocephaline’s body extends– in a specific way: above the zodiac is an arch containing a row of six altars with fires burning on them.

    Scholars have often assumed that these fires represent the planets. However, there are two decisive arguments against this explanation.

    First, the fires are depicted as lying beyond the zodiac, which is of course contrary to all Greco-Roman astronomy, in which the planets are understood as being closer to the earth than is the sphere of the fixed stars on which the zodiac is located.

    And second, of course, there are only six fires, while the planets are always seven in number.

    In response to the problem of there being only six fires, it has been suggested that the leontocephaline either hides or substitutes for a seventh fire.

    However, this suggestion is untenable, since a Roman relief from the Esquiline remarkably resembling the Barberini painting, there are clearly only six fire-altars above Mithras.

    In fact, there also exist tauroctonies in which there are nine fire-altars or four fire-altars above Mithras, indicating that the specific number of altars was not fixed.

    ____

    the Mithraists understood the cave in which Mithras kills the bull as symbolizing the cosmos, since in the Esquiline relief the arch separating Mithras from the six fires above is the roof of the cave, while in the Barberini painting exactly the same position and role are filled by the arch of the zodiac.

    ____

    Second, the Esquiline relief also includes a second set of fire-altars, this time indeed numbering seven, at the very bottom of the image. Most scholars are now agreed that
    the animal figures in the bull-slaying icon
    represent
    a series of constellations located on the sphere of the fixed stars.

    the seven fires placed in the Esquiline relief below the bull-slaying — that is, below the sphere of the fixed stars– are in the proper astronomical location for the planets.

    Thus the lower set of fires agrees both in number and position with the planets, and thus most likely does represent the planets, while the upper set of fires does not fit with the planets either in number or in position.

    ____

    But if the six upper fires in the Esquiline relief and the Barberini painting do not represent the planets, what do they represent?

    An obvious answer to this question is immediately apparent if we merely take seriously the fact that the fires in the Barberini painting are clearly located outside of the zodiac, and hence beyond the sphere of the fixed stars. For throughout antiquity there existed a widespread belief that the outermost region of the cosmos was occupied by a realm of fire.

    [{fire} = the Psilocybe altered state burns away any possibilism-thinking pollution remaining

    cow-dung blue-stem mushrooms = Psilocybe cubensis
    liberty cap mushroom = Psilocybe semilanceata

    -mh]

    ____

    Deriving from the experience of the light-giving quality of the stars and planets, the light- and heat-producing quality of the sun, and the upward-moving tendency of fire, the earliest Greek philosophers already identified the sky as a realm of fire.

    As Charles Kahn says, “Both Parmenides and Anaxagoras seem to have identified the aither or sky with elemental fire….” and Anaximander’s cosmology placed a sphere of flame at the outer boundary of the universe.

    The Pythagorean Philolaus appears to have held a similar opinion, since according to Aetius he said that in addition to the existence of a fiery “hearth” at the center of the universe there is “…again another fire at the uppermost place, surrounding the whole.”

    ____

    Plato as well seems to have adopted the idea of fire as existing in the furthest region of the cosmos in Timaeus 62D-63E, since, as F.M Cornford notes in his commentary on this passage, for Plato the elements are here understood as arranged “in a definite order: fire around the circumference (where it is the chief constituent of the stars’ bodies), next the spheres of air and water, and earth at the center.”

    ____

    The idea of a fire at the outermost boundary of the universe later became a commonplace in Stoic thought.

    Cleanthes, for example, according to Cicero taught that “the most unquestionable deity is that remote all-surrounding fiery atmosphere called the aether, which encircles and embraces the universe on its outer side at an exceedingly lofty altitude.”

    Chrysippus, notes David E. Hahm, speaks of “the aether, which is the name he gives to the fire at the periphery of the cosmos.”

    ____

    Among the Middle and Neo-Platonists there was also a widespread belief that the outermost region of reality was a fiery domain.

    Based on Plato’s famous allegory of the cave and of the sun-filled realm outside of it, the doctrine arose that beyond the universe– in the “place beyond the heavens” (hyperouranios topos) of Phaedrus 247B-C– there existed a hypercosmic sun or light (I have discussed this in detail in my article “Mithras and the Hypercosmic Sun“).
    Article:
    Mithras and the Hypercosmic Sun
    David Ulansey
    todo: also could excerpt and comment on. {born from rock} = {born from rock-snake-wrapped rock egg} = “outside the sphere-and-gateway of the fixed stars (Heimarmene)”; transcending eternalism; ransomed/redeemed and set free from imprisonment in the frozen-rock eternalism-prison.
    Journal print page layout:
    https://c225284de2bfd8ddba3a-1f65ea6b54cffc44ac06d29d1bbf1a1c.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/ws_02_ulansey.pdf
    Ulansey’s webpage of the article:
    http://www.mysterium.com/hypercosmic.html

    An early example is found in Philo’s De Opificio Mundi VIII.31, where he speaks of

    a star above the heavens, the source of those stars which are perceptible by the external sense, and if any one were to call it universal light he would not be very wrong; since it is from that the sun and moon, and all the other planets and fixed stars derive their due light….[10]

    And a bit further on, in XXIII 69-71, Philo pictures a mind journeying through the world and then up through the heavenly spheres until it [the mind] passes the outermost boundary of the universe [ie the sphere-and-gateway of the fixed stars; the Zodiac -mh], at which point “rays of divine light are poured forth upon it [the mind] like a torrent, so as to bewilder the eyes of its [the mind’s] intelligence by their splendour.”

    ____

    Finally, an exact parallel to the picture in the Barberini mithraeum of a fiery realm outside the cosmos is found in the Chaldaean Oracles.

    In the Chaldaean cosmology, the highest world is beyond the cosmic sphere (hyperkosmios or hyperouranios)[12] and is called the fiery cosmos or the “Empyrean” realm (kosmos pyrios or empyrios).

    [good, the expected confirmation of my Theory/prediction/understanding — “the Empyrean” = outside the cosmos = outside the sphere-and-gateway of the fixed stars (Heimarmene); Empyrean = transcending eternalism or eternalism-thinking. -mh]

    ____

    Given all of this evidence for the ancient belief in the presence of a fiery realm at the outermost place in the universe, the depiction in the Barberini painting of fires just outside the boundary of the cosmos makes perfect sense.

    Indeed, additional support for a connection between the leontocephaline and the aetherial cosmic fire can be found in the fact that the Mithraic leontocephaline, as is well known, is frequently associated with fire-symbolism in a variety of ways, extending even to the existence of statues of the leontocephaline apparently designed so that fire could be sent shooting out of its mouth.

    ____

    However, an additional factor in the Barberini painting may help us gain further clarity about the significance of the Mithraic leontocephaline.

    It is notable that the placement of the leontocephaline at Barberini seems designed to emphasize the concepts of boundary and boundary-crossing.

    The globe on which the figure stands is located exactly on the arching zodiacal boundary of the universe, while the figure itself extends beyond that boundary as a kind of incarnation of the process of boundary-crossing.

    [see Key Mythemes catalog: {gateway} -mh]

    ____

    The leontocephaline has a connection with the idea of a cosmic boundary, then crucial pieces of his cryptic symbolism take on a new importance.

    [Ulansey identifies the mytheme of {transcending the sphere-and-gateway of the fixed stars (Heimarmene)} but he doesn’t exactly identify the referent; the specific item in “things that are observed and experienced in the altered state”, in terms of Psilocybe-induced loosecog, altered-state transformation of the mental worldmodel from possibilism-thinking to eternalism-thinking. -mh]

    The key that he always holds — the key is one of the most appropriate of all symbols of boundaries and boundary-crossing.

    Thus the goddess Hekate, mistress of boundaries and crossroads, was from Hellenistic times on often associated with the symbol of the key.

    And in his work On the Genius of Socrates 591 A-C, Plutarch describes how the three Fates guard the thresholds between cosmic realms, each of them holding a key.

    [“the three Fates” — there’s my number 3 that I was looking for to decode {the three snakes}; the chalice cup of 3 snakes

    {three snakes} = Fatedness-awareness; experiencing/ observing/ perceiving/ seeing Fatedness

    [8:23 a.m. December 12, 2020] -mh]~~

    Significantly, the first of these cosmic thresholds, presided over [ie guarded] by the Fate Atropos, is that which separates what is outside the cosmic sphere from what is inside it.

    [2nd & 3rd??]

    ____

    The key held by the Mithraic leontocephaline, then, indicates his role as a type of boundary guardian: specifically, as we have seen, the Barberini symbolism shows that he is associated with the boundary between what is inside and what is outside the cosmic sphere.

    But what could be the significance of this boundary such that the Mithraists were motivated to personify it in the form of a powerful divine being?

    ____

    An answer to this question can be found in the fact that the Mithraists were surprisingly not alone in the seemingly peculiar act of personifying the cosmic boundary.

    For in the Chaldaean Oracles (where, as we saw earlier, it is taught that there exists beyond the universe a realm of fire) the boundary between the cosmos and what is beyond was personified in the figure of the goddess Hekate, a central divinity in the Oracles’ religious system.

    ____

    The figure of Hekate in the Chaldaean Oracles derives ultimately from speculations on Plato’s description of the World-Soul in his dialogue Timaeus.

    There, Plato says that the Demiurge– the creator of the universe– as part of the process of creation made a soul for the cosmos as a whole.

    Plato says that the Demiurge set this “World-Soul” in the center of the cosmos “and caused it to extend throughout the whole and further wrapped [the body of the cosmos] round with soul on the outside….”

    ____

    The World-Soul of Plato became the object of extraordinarily complex and far-reaching speculations in subsequent Platonic and other Greek philosophy, but it always retained its role as the boundary of the cosmos and the mediator between the cosmos and the realm beyond.

    The fact that in the Chaldaean Oracles this abstract entity became personified as the goddess Hekate shows that it is at least plausible that the Mithraic leontocephaline could represent a similar personification of the cosmic boundary.

    [lion-in-rock-on-Zodiac = crossing boundary — REGARDLESS OF WHETHER we describe that as:

    • Transcending possibilism-thinking to reach eternalism-thinking.
    • Transcending eternalism-thinking to reach ultra-transcendent thinking.

    {fire} = altered state = crossing boundary (regardless of issue of “transcending eternalism”) -mh]

    This plausibility is strengthened by the fact that the Chaldaean Hekate, like the Mithraic leontocephaline, is constantly associated with an array of symbols involving fire.

    ____

    But the key piece of evidence supporting our hypothesis that the leontocephaline is a symbol of [crossing] the cosmic boundary, and that he is linked, like the Chaldaean Hekate, to the Platonic World-Soul, lies in the most consistent of all of the attributes of the leontocephaline: namely, the snake wrapped around him.

    ____

    Many explanations for the presence of the snake wrapped around the leontocephaline have been offered, focusing on the snake as a solar symbol, as a symbol for cosmic time, or as a symbol of the celestial ascent of the soul.

    However, the connection between the leontocephaline and the cosmic boundary and World-Soul that we have been tracing here suggests an additional factor: for there exists solid evidence that the World-Soul in its role as boundary of the universe was symbolized as a serpent.

    [
    {snake} = boundary between possibilism-thinking & eternalism-thinking
    Pretty equivalent:
    {snake} = boundary between eternalism-thinking & transcendent-of-eternalism-thinking
    The radical thing for mind to deal w/ is, in general, transformation of the mental worldmodel from possibilism-thinking to eternalism-thinking. eternalism-thinking could include “t’ding eternalism”. -mh]

    ____

    This evidence is found in Origen’s Contra Celsum, immediately following his discussion of the Mithraic eight-gated ladder.

    In Book VI, chaps. 24ff., Origen discusses the teachings of the Gnostic sect of the Ophites or serpent-worshippers as expressed in certain diagrams of theirs.

    In one of these diagrams, he says, was “a drawing of ten circles, which were separated from one another and held together by a single circle, which was said to be the soul of the universe and was called Leviathan.”

    Origen goes on to explain that this Leviathan is a great serpent, symbolizing the soul [‘soul’ implies freewill thinking; not spirit] that permeates the universe.

    That this serpent specifically represents Plato’s World-Soul is proven by the fact that according to Origen the diagram showed Leviathan twice, once in the center and once around the circumference, just as in the Timaeus Plato said that the World-Soul was placed in the center of the cosmos and also wrapped around the outside.

    Other Gnostic systems also made use of this symbol of a serpent wrapped around the outside of the universe: according to the Pistis Sophia, “The outer darkness is a great dragon, whose tail is in his mouth, outside the whole world and surrounding the whole world.”

    [ulan doesn’t mention “outer darkness”, he was talking about “world soul” ??]

    ____

    Here we see the Platonic World-Soul as boundary of the cosmos symbolized by an encircling serpent.

    The parallel with the Mithraic leontocephaline as the serpent-entwined symbol of the cosmic boundary

    there is in Mithraic iconography another figure besides the leontocephaline who is depicted as entwined by a serpent: namely, the god Oceanus.

    Oceanus is often depicted in the tauroctony beside the image of Mithras ascending in the chariot of the sun, and is easily identifiable by associated watery symbols such as waves, a boat, an oar, a vase, or a sail.

    [sail = billowing cloth altered state]

    However, a number of times the figure beside the image of Mithras in the chariot is depicted as entwined by a serpent in exactly the same way as the leontocephaline.

    As Manfred Clauss and M.L. West have noted, this serpent-entwined figure must also be Oceanus.

    But why is he entwined by a snake exactly like the leontocephaline?

    Fig. 7: Oceanus (on right) with waves and holding sail over head (CIMRM 2244)

    Fig. 8: Oceanus (on right) entwined in serpent (CIMRM 1958)



    Our discovery of the leontocephaline’s connection with the boundary of the cosmic sphere provides an obvious answer to this question, for of course the most important function of Oceanus in antiquity was as a symbol of the outermost circular boundary of the world.

    The fact that both the leontocephaline and Oceanus are identically entwined by a serpent, therefore, makes perfect sense: the serpent around each of them symbolizes their roles as ultimate boundaries.

    And, conversely, the fact that in Mithraic iconography Oceanus– the boundary of the world– is entwined by a serpent provides remarkable support for my claim that the serpent-entwined leontocephaline also symbolizes the cosmic boundary— and hence the Platonic World-Soul– as indicated by the Barberini painting.

    ____

    In the Acts of Thomas, the same text that includes the famous Gnostic Hymn of the Pearl, the apostle Thomas is confronted by a serpent.

    The serpent speaks to him, and at one point says, “I am son of him who girds the sphere about; and I am kinsman of him who is outside the ocean, whose tail is set in his own mouth.”

    [
    {ouroboros} = eternalism/ heimarmene/ fatedness/ no-free-will
    -mh]

    Here, exactly as in the Mithraic evidence, we find an enclosing serpent related simultaneously to the world-containing ocean and to the boundary of the cosmic sphere.

    ____

    If the leontocephaline did indeed function partly as a symbol for the ultimate boundary of the universe, this would be in complete harmony with the theory I proposed in my book The Origins of the Mithraic Mysteries that Mithraism began as a religious response to Hipparchus’s discovery of the precession of the equinoxes.

    [ie Mithraism uses mythemes as a symbol/analogy to describe things that are observed and experienced in the altered state -mh]

    Mithras represented the force responsible for moving the entire cosmic sphere in the way revealed by Hipparchus’s discovery

    Mithras was understood as a divinity whose essential power lay in the hypercosmic realm.

    [personal control power isn’t based in possibilism-thinking;
    personal control power is based in eternalism-thinking & hyper/trans eternalism-thinking).
    ]

    A symbol for the division between the cosmic and hypercosmic realms would have come to play an important role in the iconographical repertoire of his worship.

    / ulansey lion article

    AncientEsotericism.com – Scholarship on Ancient Western Esotericism

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    Experiment: I’m starting this WordPress page to look into this site. As feared, worst-case: 404, for the .org domain. Looks like they went with the .com domain instead: http://ancientesotericism.com –

    Curious: even the .com website, in its About texts, says “.org”, but looks like they lost that domain.

    The only thing I know about this website is that it’s mentioned in a 2015 newsletter of esotericism scholarship:
    The Newsletter of
    the European Society for
    the Study of
    Western Esotericism.

    The site is about Western Esotericism as manifested in ancient Mediterranean religion.

    Network for the Study of Esotericism in Antiquity

    http://ancientesotericism.org <– false; .com instead.

    Dylan M. Burns —

    “In 2014–15, Sarah Veale and I both focused our energy on continuing to develop and update the NSEA website, ancientesotericism.org. [sic; .com]

    Traffic and subscriptions increased significantly in the past year.

    The site has also begun to be used by members outside of the ESSWE and has garnered mention in the ancient religious blogosphere more widely.

    It is succeeding in fulfilling its purpose as a bridge between scholars working in:

    • Western Esotericism.
    • Ancient Mediterranean religion.”

    Website upper left About text:

    “AncientEsotericism.org is the website for the Network for the Study of Esotericism in Antiquity (NSEA), a thematic group associated with the European Society for the Study of Western Esotericism (ESSWE).

    Our website provides resources and information for students and specialists of ancient esoteric thought, history, and literature.”

    About page:
    https://ancientesotericism.com/about-2/

    Ancient Esotericism.org is the website for the
    Network for the Study of Ancient Esotericism (NSEA),
    a thematic network associated with the
    European Society for the Study of Western Esotericism (ESSWE).
    NSEA specializes in the study of
    esoteric phenomena of the ancient period
    and provides contact for
    specialists of
    ancient esoteric thought, history, and literature.

    This website is intended as a resource for scholars and students.

    While

    the ancient sources (Gnostic, theurgic, Neoplatonic, Hermetic, etc.) of Western Esotericism

    possess enormous importance for
    the development of
    esoteric currents from the fourteenth century onwards,
    there remains only a minimum of interaction between the antiquity experts and their (proto)-modern colleagues.

    The Network therefore is intended to:

    • Introduce scholarship on ancient esotericism to students of Western Esotericism.
    • Serve as a forum in which to exchange ideas, notes and references, etc. outside of other professional bodies which are not concerned with esotericism per se.
    • Provide a junction of the many resources online that can serve as aids in the study of this fascinating and difficult material (dictionaries, textual corpora, blogs, etc.).

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7457 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    Hatsis suffers from the single-meaning, surface-meaning fallacy, literalism, like when people say the spaceship in the song does not refer to LSD, because it refers to a spaceship — as if poetry can only have one, clear cut, surface, literal meaning.

    Specifically, Hatsis suffers from lacking the correct referent domain: religious mythology refers to entheogen-revealed experiencing of the Eternalism mental model of time, self, possibility, and control.

    Mythology and acid popsike lyrics have two domains of meaning: the metaphor domain (whatever the specific surface analogy is; this is an open set; it could be any domain of metaphor), and the referent domain, which is entheogen-induced experiencing of Eternalism (a single specific domain that does not vary).

    The New Testament maps the single fixed referent domain (Entheogen Eternalism) to, most notably and relevantly, two metaphor domains: the metaphor domain of mystery religion, and the metaphor domain of socio-politics.

    “Put the needle in the groove” — there’s no way this can refer to intercourse, because plainly it is about playing a record. This meaning prevents mapping to a different meaning (according to tone-deaf outsiders).

    Hatsis operates from an assumed paradigm of Literalist OSC Possibilism, so he is only prepared to read a single, brittle, literal meaning — like the word ‘die’ for him has not yet been problematized; he shows no awareness of the need to interpret the word ‘die’.

    For him, ‘die’ means simply bodily physical death, and that’s it; there’s no possibility in his mind of it meaning any other kind of death or anything other than literal bodily death.

    Even academics (clueless outsiders to the riddle) recognize that the Eden tree ‘die’ refers to “spiritual death”, as they put it.

    He says these mushroom trees do not refer to mushrooms because they refer to trees and that this is simply how the school arbitrarily by convention depicts trees: they do it in an abstract mushroom-like way (and this is a secular book).

    And Ruck has such a weak theory that he has nothing to counter that denseness with.

    First of all we have to ask the initial key question: What kind of writing, what kind of art is this? The answer is religious mythology.

    In a work of religious mythology, why would you choose to depict trees in a mushroom-like way? The answer is because mushrooms induce religious experiencing, which per Benny Shanon is quintessentially metaphorical in terms of cognitive psychology modes of mind.

    Hatsis shows how flimsy the Entheogen theory of religious mythology is when it is not working buttressed in conjunction with the more important point of religious mythology, which is Eternalism — which is the actual referent domain.

    Ruck is wrong in his assertion that religious mythology refers to mushrooms. In fact religious mythology refers to Eternalism. Which mushrooms induce.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7459 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    The raised left leg refers to the initial, illusion-based mental model which is baseless, which rests on air and has no foundation.

    The right leg on the ground refers to transcendent thinking, recognizing what you were and are actually resting on and what actually carries you.

    The world model as imagined originally, based on possibility thinking with possibility branching and you with autonomous power of steering among those possibilities, is a baseless illusion, and it is not the actual basis on which you are actually dependent.

    The raised left leg has no real basis, it’s standing on air like a unicorn.

    The right leg is like the salamander: it is enduring, it is a real dependable basis foundation, the actual foundation on which you rest as a control agent.

    It is the basis on which you are actually dependent.

    The expression of poison, hand to forehead, also suggests remorse, mourning, repentance, the realization that your mental model was wrong and is now fallen, catastrophically failed.

    Like Ruck feels since he realizes he was dead wrong in caving to Hatsis and was coerced into absurdly denying that the mushroom tree indicates mushroom.


    Hatsis viciously attacked Irvin by hearty laughter out of control. I counterattack by laughing even far more heartily at the foolishness of Hatsis in respecting Harvard.

    Only by recognizing Harvard as a pile of foolishness can we surpass Harvard in their deadlocked incomprehension of religious mythology.


    Your left foot, initial mental model, catastrophically failed, and it was based on illusion.

    Your previous basis, on what you thought you depended, turned out to be thin air having no foundation, and you realize in remorse or regret or shame, you turn and are converted and repent during ego death, you realize that your basis was complete fantasy, complete illusion, like a unicorn.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7460 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    The Entheogen half-theory of religious mythic metaphor.

    The other, missing, more central half of the theory of religious mythic metaphor is Eternalism Cybernetics.
    Group: egodeath Message: 7463 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    Simple Simon says “evidence shapes theories; theories do not shape evidence.” Actually, evidence is theory-bound.

    To perceive evidence, requires and utilizes one theory or another — either a naive theory, or a perspicacious theory.


    Hatsis criticized circular argument as if that is bad and could be avoided.

    All argument is circular, whether consciously or not. Hatsis adopts Literalist OSC Possibilism, as everyone naively does by default initially. Insiders go on to convert to Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism.

    Either you are still an outsider electron initially orbiting in the circular orbit of Literalist OSC Possibilism, or you are an insider electron that has graduated to orbiting in the circular orbit of Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism.

    At first in your mind, the sun has a circular orbit around the earth. Later in your mind, the earth has a circular orbit around the sun.


    Do not characterize religious mythology as “secret”.

    The correct way to understand mythology writing is as ‘veiled’ and bi-valent; 2-mode meaning-switching: it points in two distinct directions; to the outsiders, religious mythology points towards reifying their outsiders’ circular thinking.

    To the insiders, this way of writing in religious mythology metaphor analogy points towards reifying and affirming confirming their insiders’ circular thinking.


    The goal is not to avoid circular thinking, but rather to have superior circular thinking.

    Ruck/Irvin/Rush has a half theory, better than Hatsis’ naive Literalist OSC Possibilism outsiders’ interpretation.

    Ruck is neither an outsider nor an insider; he is in the outer area of the temple.

    I have a complete theory, better than Ruck. I am an insider in the inner area of the temple.


    Where I go, you cannot go; you cannot bear yet what I have to inform you, because you would freak and have control instability and run away fleeing to protect self-control from loss-of-control panic.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7465 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    Brittle thinking; false dichotomies spoken like a true outsider:

    “The man in the image has eaten this poisoned fruit and is now dying; not dancing, not experiencing visions—dying.”

    As if ego death isn’t experiencing visions.


    Religious writing, or a bestiary, or alchemy? Which is the correct category? Which one is it?

    The correct genre is: bi-valent religious mythology (metaphor, analogy); describing transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7466 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    My accustomed feeling about the two modes of reading has nothing to do with secrecy and hiding, but with uniformly expressing in analogy.

    Outsiders would be quick to label this as “secret hidden meanings” — that is not accurate.

    The meanings are effortlessly self-veiling; the meaning will naturally be obscure to outsiders. Consider adults talking in euphemisms in front of children, who lack the target domain.

    There is no great effort required to hide the meaning and keep it secret; naturally, inherently, the higher level of meaning will be obscure to outsiders, who lack the target domain of experiencing.

    But from the insider’s point of view, the meaning is no more veiled than saying that “legitimate words are those with a repeated letter” — if you are not in on that pattern, if you have not yet picked up on that pattern, you will guess and misinterpret the pattern, and it will seem arbitrary.

    There will be a discontinuous jump, an increase of meaning all of a sudden, once you simply perceive that the pattern is “repeated letters”.

    Similarly, when a person comes to recognize that what is being discussed here is all being discussed indirectly, there is a discontinuous increase in meaning; they jump up in meaningfulness.

    It is challenging and somewhat difficult to learn the reference target domain and how to recognize, how to read the mapping.

    The mode of description in religious mythology is based on a kind of literacy about analogy, with more or less standard mappings between analogy domains and the target domain, which is visionary plant experiencing and mental model transformation.

    The meaning is not available to outsiders, who lack the target domain of experiencing. Outsiders will have to fall back to superficial literalist reading and that is all they will have.

    They will lack the higher meaning.

    I would not over emphasize the secrecy; it is simply poetry it is simply a convention of describing by analogy; indirect description of the mushroom experiencing of changing one’s world model.

    The bi-valent mode of religious metaphor is not especially secret or especially hidden; it is merely analogy, it’s a system of analogy.

    Now you might be an outsider and you might not have the target experiencing. If you do not have the target experiencing, then you will have to fall back to the superficial surface reading.

    If you do have the target experiencing, accessed through the mushroom, you have the key increasingly and the referent domain is not particularly hidden.

    You have to do the work of learning the language, learning the analogy mapping, but it is not especially secret or hidden.

    Like any language, there are various conventions; for example, turning to the right to look back behind you.

    Religious mythology is more like a learning a language than like a secret that is hidden.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7467 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    The encoding/decoding rule is simple: do not reveal the mysteries to the uninitiated.

    That is, in fact, in effect, the rule that applies.

    Distinct from that is justifications for that rule.

    Regardless of justifications, that is the rule.

    One useful property of that rule is that it is a simple rule. Always speak poetically; in analogy.

    Always speak in a veiled way.

    Like drug songs broadcast during the Prohibition era.

    Like 70s New Age that is discreetly based on LSD.

    Like drug culture during Prohibition.

    It is a simple rule: don’t be artless about these adult-like meanings.

    Be discreet: talk in the standard semi-veiled discreet way about psilocybin inducing control seizure abduction of control, being r*p*d as a control agent by the god and being forcibly carried to his banquet.

    Communicate this, in a semi-veiled way, not directly but poetically, per the art tradition, the high culture tradition.

    Preserve the boundary between thise on the inside vs. those on the outside.

    There are several reasons to list, used to justify veiling that God is the author of evil and of all control thoughts, that religion comes from mushrooms, that religion is entirely metaphorical.

    I am not going to tell everyone at church, 100% Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism.

    There is a standard traditional way insiders use, a conventional pattrrn of descriptive veiling.

    Analogy hides and analogy describes loosecog experiential realization and transformation.
    Group: egodeath Message: 7468 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    Carl Ruck is right: there are no mushrooms. Neither is religious mythology fictional. And, freewill is the case, and Copenhagenism manyworlds.

    The correct view of religious mythology is Literalist OSC Possibilism. Jesus was not a mushroom teacher. We have no reason to doubt the existence of Paul, Jesus, Moses, Adam. There is no such thing as insiders; never mind Mark 4:12; nor outsiders.
    Group: egodeath Message: 7469 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    The Munich Psalter shows mushroom trees like those that gave Jacob his vision. It depicts a scene from The Book of Jasher:

    After Cain killed his brother, Abel: Lamech, Cain’s great grandson in this story, went hunting one day with his son, Tubal Cain.

    Blinded by old age, Lemach accidentally shot Cain with an arrow.

    These mushroom trees caused Jacob’s visions and these mushroom trees account for Lamech’s deadly mishap.


    Mushrooms cause perceiving that the mind’s initial, the Possibilism mental model of time, self, possibility, and control is based on illusion.

    The initial, youthful mental model is then repudiated and sacrificed.

    The mind points to its exact error, identifies it as error, and the initial conception of self as control agent, and its model of the world, is ended and cast off, fatally mitigated as illusory.

    This was not intended when the mind ingested mushrooms and looked around searching for a more coherent mental model.

    The result is the rational, adult, fully developed Eternalism mental model of time, self, and control.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7471 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    Hatsis mis-asesses up front as axiomatic that a bestiary is a nonspiritual work and says that contradicts Rush’s assertion that mushroom trees are rare in secular art because this secular bestiary shows mushroom trees.

    I hope Rush is not as dense as Hatsis, and recognizes religious mythology analogy in the bestiary.

    This bestiary’s inclusion of mushroom trees doesn’t contradict Rush.

    Hatsis is in error in categorizing a bestiary as nonspiritual ie secular.

    Rush’s theory is incomplete; his is the Entheogen theory of religious mythology.

    The correct, complete, coherent theory is my Entheogen-Revealed Eternalism theory of religious mythology.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7472 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    Here is a good example of how the “historical context” interpretation of religious mythology (per outsiders) actually amounts to the *literalist*, exoteric, surface interpretation.

    When an outsider writes “in historical context”, strike that out and write the word ‘literalist’, meaning, blind to analogy alluding to the target domain of Eternalism Cybernetics.

    Hatsis writes: “Gold Munich Psalter shows a style of tree that looks very “psychedelic” indeed, but it always ends up the same: when you put the “mushroom tree” in historical context, it never ends up being a mushroom.”

    By “in historical context”, Hatsis means that when you read the mythology story in a superficial, surface, literalistic, outsiders’, noninitiates’ way, according to that reading, the item depicted is not a mushroom, does not refer to a mushroom.

    For Hatsis, to read a story “in historical context” means to read in a superficial literalist outsiders’ way, without recognizing the analogy to mushroom experiencing.

    It’s like saying that the item in the song cannot refer to an LSD trip, because the item is a spaceship traveling to a black hole.

    When you consider the lines of lyrics “in song context”, they are about a spaceship traveling to a black hole, and “therefore”, do not refer to LSD experiencing.

    What a strange implicit Siri you have to have to be an outsider! It’s a theory that poetry can only mean what its surface meaning is, thus denying it being poetry.

    A big part of being an outsider is to commit a massive failure of genre identification right from the start, a failure to recognize what mode of writing and mode of representation is going on — or mode of communication, to put it in terms amenable to Cybernetics.

    There is an implicit Siri hear, a wrong theory, of single meaning or more specifically a wrong assumption and interpretation approach, a lack of interpretation, an outsider’s wrong assumption that the analogy, that the metaphor is not a metaphor, but directly refers to its referent.

    In fact religious mythology is metaphor that not only means itself on the surface direct level but also is analogy to the higher reference domain.

    There is a higher reference domain, and this item is a metaphor that not only carries its direct meaning — this is the very definition of ‘metaphor’, so, Hatsis does not understand.

    He’s an outsider, so he does not recognize metaphor as metaphor, because he lacks the experiencing of the loose cognitive state dynamics about self-control and the change of mental world model.

    For Hatsis, the only thing there is is the surface meaning; he does not recognize this as a metaphor or as an analogy pointing to something else.

    Hatsis lacks the something else; he’s an outsider, he’s a non-initiate.

    Ruck/Irvin/Rush — the Entheogen half-theory of religious mythology — is closer to recognizing and comprehending analogy as such recognizing that there exists something in addition to the surface meaning or as Hatsis puts it, something in addition to the “in historical context” meaning.

    Proponents of the Entheogen half-theory of religious mythology are beginner initiates in the outer courtyard of the temple; they are not inner-circle full initiates in the inner sanctum as is the Entheogen-Revealed Eternalism theory of religious mythology.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7473 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    By the way, this is not an invented scenario; prior to Rush responding in a music magazine interview stating they use drugs “all the time” and prior to the release of their Flashbacks album covering 60s popsike songs, many Rush listeners disbelieved the very idea I explained in full detail, that Rush wrote songs about drug experiencing; acid.

    One girl literally argued that the song cannot refer to, cannot be an allusion to LSD experiencing “because” the song “is about” a spaceship — so she implicitly expressed a very strange poetry denial notion that doesn’t make any sense.

    I’ve had a university course in literature, so maybe that gives me some special advanced concept of analogy that she lacks. I also had General Semantics university course.

    It is baffling to me how anyone could have such a massive total failure of comprehending the very idea of analogy.

    This is really scary to me that not only are people incapable of critical reasoning, but it pains me to say this, it is evident, I cannot deny that it is evident that people do not understand the very idea of poetry, which is that something can allude to something other than its surface meaning.

    Outsiders are in denial of the very possibility of the poetic ability to refer, for an item to to be metaphor, for an item to refer to something other than its surface meaning.

    They are in denial of that most basic elementary fundamental concept of poetry; if the item in the lyric is {spaceship}, by damn that’s the meaning, that’s the only meaning, and there is nothing, no mental association connection beyond that; there cannot be a connection beyond that.

    So they completely fail to understand the very concept of metaphor.

    Not only do they deny that religious mythology… not only do they deny that a particular item in religious mythology or in lyrics is an analogy, it’s worse than that: they prove that non-initiates and outsiders, mental children, lack the very *concept* of metaphor and analogy, in practice, in effect.

    I’m not making this up, this is painful to egg knowledge, that people literally argued that the Rush song cannot refer to LSD experiencing, “because” the song “refers to” a spaceship or a car or whatever the surface item was in the song.

    Noninitiates fail to recognize metaphor/analogy as such.

    They are blind to the very activity of referring, or multi-meaning where an item refers to itself in a surface way *and* refers to something else, but here specifically that something else is in the engine revealed you ternal is him [entheogen-revealed Eternalism].

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7474 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    Most astounding of all: some way-outsiders even disbelieve that the song Purple Haze is about LSD. Man what the hell?! Facepalm me with a wrecking ball.

    How can people be so 100% perfectly clueless and ignorant?

    They are outside of the outer outer outer courtyard of the temple of comprehension of Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7476 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    The “critiques” by Hatsis amount to a heap of outsiders'(to a certain degree) bluster and confusion.

    It’s not particularly worth unraveling and correcting his objections or garbled argumentation (like Letcher there seems to be indeterminacy in just what his position is and just what his argument argumentation is).

    Hatsis provides us with a great valuable example of the various confusions that an outsider (to a certain degree) is subject to.

    We have a great situation here of: Hatsis represents a relatively more outsiders’ cluelessness than Ruck/Irvin/Rush.

    Instead of approaching criticizing Hatsis as setting him straight regarding interpretation and winning the debate against him to prove that ‘we’ are right and he is wrong, rather what is a useful exercise is to treat:

    Hatsis as Exhibit A
    Ruck/Irvin/Rush as Exhibit B
    the Egodeath theory as Exhibit C

    These amount to distinctive identifiable positions along the spectrum of cluelessness.

    Here is how a mostly-outsider reacts… against what position?

    Hatsis is not reacting against a fully formed coherent Siri.

    This is pretty interesting and valauable.

    What we have here is a full outsider responding to a half-baked theory of a semi-outsider.

    Using an onion model, I am on the full inside, the innermost zone, the inner sanctum.

    Ruck/Irvin/Rush is in the temple courtyard.

    Hatsis is at the outer limit of the temple, he is perhaps just outside of the temple, on the path leading up to the temple steps and outer door.

    Then there are people way in the dark, who maybe say have never heard of mushrooms or the Entheogen half-theory, much less the fully developed Entheogen-Revealed Eternalism theory of religious metaphor. They could be exoteric religionists or secularists.

    Positions along The Spectrum of Cluelessness:

    1: Far outsider: Secularists and exoteric religionists. Drug-diminishing meditators.

    3: Close outsider: Hatsis and LSD-inspired meditators.

    5: Outer circle: Ruck/Irvin/Rush; the Entheogen half-theory of religious mythology.

    10: Inner circle: Hoffman; the Entheogen-Revealed Eternalism theory of religious mythology, and the overall Egodeath theory, including the scientific, non-metaphor-focused Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence.

    Hatsis is a far outsider critiquing the views of a near outsider; he is a 2/10 comprehending person reacting against the views of a 5/10 comprehending person.

    He is an 80% clueless outsider reacting against a 50% clueless outsider.

    My critique is that of a 0% clueless outsider. Here is the origin of degrees of initiation.


    Non-drug unity meditators are complete virgins.

    Hatsis is 1 or 2 months pregnant.

    Ruck/Irvin/Rush is 3 or 4 months pregnant.

    I have given birth.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7478 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    One move that Hatsis has in common with Letcher is to conflate some particular variant of the entheogen theory with the entirety of the Entheogen theory in general.

    Then when he fixates on the one theory variant he has chosen and he shows that that variant has problems, that this version that he has chosen to critique is easy to find problems with, then he (to some extent) acts as if he has rendered the overall general theory problematic.

    Naturally it makes sense for him to gravitate toward poorly formed variants or sub-areas of a version of the entheogen theory, and point out problems with those.

    But what’s wrong is the tone of saying that this problem with this variant amounts to a problem with the overall theory; that is just false. All he is shown is that there are errors in this version of the theory that he has chosen to focus on, or opportunistically fixate on.

    That is a major move throughout Hatsis and Letcher. It is an instance of needing more organization in the argumentation structure, but there are factors that encourage them to avoid increasing the organization of that structure of argumentation.

    They need to do more labor, more work, spend more time and more words identifying what they have and have not proved. This is Science progress in an explanation search-space.

    It is against their interests rhetorically, to emphasize that they only have rendered problematic or have crossed out specific branches of the tree of possibilities. The tree remains standing fine.

    My theory is not “the” entheogen theory; it is the best Entheogen theory; mine is specifically the Entheogen Eternalism theory.

    In contrast , Ruck/Irvin/Rush by default is implicitly advocating the Entheogen Possibilism theory.

    The mind begins with Possibilism thinking as the default. Then the mind is initiated and transformed into Eternalism thinking.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7479 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Reposts: later = better
    I think I should just go with this

    it seems I have developed a routine of posting where typically I post an immediate and lively posting with typos and then I correct those typos and add a couple of good points and then repost it and then I delete the original posting

    this mobile phablet process works well to combine the lively immediacy of online writing with cleanup
    Group: egodeath Message: 7480 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    I don’t want to give too positive an impression of Hatsis’ argumentation: I reiterate that Hatsis makes a massive genre category error in categorizing a bestiary as a non-spiritual genre, and that deep error complicates and mitigates when I suggest that he has refuted some theory-variant that the entheogen advocates advance.

    I am not giving Hatsis credit with disproving (or finding problematic points in) a version of the entheogen theory — this depends on whether Ruck/Irvin/Rush agree that a bestiary is non-spiritual.

    If all these guys make that colossal error, then then it just shows that Hatsis has refuted a particularly bad, particularly clueless version of the Entheogen theory

    Hatsis is a confused critique of a somewhat confused variant of a theory.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7481 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    Here’s another instance of how hats is is strongly attracted towards a particular narrow week version of the theory and it is in his rhetorical interest to conflate the easy to break Amanita theory with the difficult to break visionary plant theory

    to what extent does rock and crew fixate on amanita

    I have observed that rock was so fixated on amanita that he was blind to the presence of the blue stemmed Psilocybe mushroom in the leg of Mithras so that rock made a longshot interpretation of looking at red and white colors in the fresco and saying there is the mushroom by virtue of the colors, it is a very secret very hidden reference to Amanita.

    And then he stopped writing and that was all he wrote and he wrote nothing about the glaring blue stem Psilocybe mushroom in Mithras leg which stem is divided with lines into some seven segments of initiation levels like planetary spheres.

    Here the fault lies partly with hats is and partly with rock and crew

    hats is it’s in his interest rhetorically to fixate on amanita antiquate falsely the mushroom Siri religion with amanita theory in particular and to conflate the amanita very particular theory with the entirety of the visionary plant theory of religion.

    My theory is not the amanita theory I have a stronger basis that is harder to overthrow then the theory which Hanses so loves to fixate on because it is so easy to problem ties so easy to find problems with

    my theory if anything is based on Psilocybin mushroom.
    Group: egodeath Message: 7482 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    We really need to throw away Ruck’s ‘secrecy’ model; it is not a matter of “secrecy” as the most accurate characterization of veiling and bi-mode referencing.

    To outsiders, the surface items refer directly, and that’s all.

    To insiders, the surface items refer directly, and also refer to entheogen-revealed Eternalism.

    He is misleading us: secrecy is not the right mode, the right conceptualization of what genre this is, it fails as a description of the communication dynamics and the meaning dynamics, the interpretation dynamics, the esoteric concealing-and-revealing dynamics.

    We have to understand better per freaking Gandy the relationship between exoteric and esoteric, how the mind grows and progresses from exoteric to esoteric thinking, first learning the surface and then unfolding the additional higher referent.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7483 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    Entheogen scholars might celebrate that Hatsis brings more evidence of mushroom trees and mushrooms in art. That helps, it doesn’t hurt, but I emphasize that it is not necessary.

    At this point, we can turn our attention away from this ever-increasing pile of mushroom depictions in art and really focus on theorizing.

    At this point, the weakness is not lack of evidence or too little evidence; rather the weakness here at this point is in theory.

    I solve that by presenting my theory, so to be particular, to be specific, the problem at this point is people’s lack of knowing my theory of interpretation of the mushroom evidence, such as 100% Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism.

    In Antiquity, there was not explicit criticism of Christians for using mushrooms, because *everybody* used mushrooms, especially mushroom mixed wine. Hatsis does not consider this explanation.

    It is unlawful to reveal the mysteries and by that convention people were already accustomed to not explicitly discussing the mushroom mixed wine used in banqueting and mystery cult.

    It was a kind of censorship that you have to take into account. Acid Rock songs during Prohibition are not typically explicit; they are typically discreet, thinly veiled euphemism.

    Regardless of how people thought about the justification of this, we are clearly told that there are things concealed from outsiders, from non-initiates, and we are clearly told it is unlawful to reveal the mysteries to the non-initiated.

    You can quibble about why that was, but we are told that; that is not in question.

    It is clear (as the given data to be explained) that what we have here for whatever reason is a cultural convention of only speaking in an analogy-based way.

    To solve the riddle that we are given, we have to accept this given reality that it is presented to us by the world of evidence in a riddle format.

    The ancients are not generally going to come forward to us with explicit discussion of mushrooms; that’s the given.

    This is exactly why what we have here is a riddle, that it’s not easy to solve, and requires judgment and discernment, consideration from the point of view of what ancients called initiated insiders vs. uninitiated outsiders.

    Mark 4:12 is what we are challenged to unriddle.

    I don’t at all mean to imply that mushrooms cannot be depicted in art. We have to use judgment on the degree to which things were veiled, concealed and revealed, but Hatsis cannot validly frame this choice as brittle or make-or-break for the general visionary plant theory.

    Generally in art and literature, people were discreet and did not come out in explicitly discussion, or we do not have records much of them explicitly discussing mushrooms, but we need finesse here, not a simplistic brittle proving or disproving.

    We have to have an overall general model of expecting mushrooms generally to be concealed in some way and also revealed in some way.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7484 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    Ruck is wrong: what is concealed (thinly veiled and then revealed) in religious mythology is not mushrooms, but rather, mushroom-revealed Eternalism Cybernetics, with the emphasis on Eternalism, not mushrooms.

    What is concealed is mushrooms, Eternalism Cybernetics, and thoroughgoing metaphoricity.

    What is revealed is mushrooms, Eternalism Cybernetics, and thoroughgoing metaphoricity.

    God is the author of evil and all control-thoughts.

    Free will is childish delusion. Our future stream of thoughts is given to us, frozen, cast in rock.

    Psilocybin is the source and basis of religion and religious revelation.

    Religion is entirely metaphorical, analogy, not Literalist OSC Possibilism.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7485 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Church fathers didn’t exist, Christianity didn’t exist
    Eusebius — as I speculated based on Edwin Johnson — is an empty cipher.

    https://sites.google.com/site/originsofchristianity/the-textual-tradition/eusebius-of-caesarea-as-myth
    Group: egodeath Message: 7486 From: egodeath Date: 26/12/2015
    Subject: Drug-free pseudo-shamanism fails authentication test
    In this talk Martin Ball calls “BULLSH*T!!” on drug-free pseudo-shamanism.

    He should take into account Harner was subject to censorship per Hanegraaff’s realization that newage is covertly based on psychedelics.

    40:00

    MWB@BM2011
    https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-entheogenic-evolution/id272825477?mt=2
    Group: egodeath Message: 7487 From: egodeath Date: 26/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Drug-free pseudo-shamanism fails authentication test
    54:30 if you trust and surrender then you have unity experience

    He’s informally identifying the control-seizure gate to the inner zone.
    Group: egodeath Message: 7488 From: egodeath Date: 26/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Drug-free pseudo-shamanism fails authentication test
    Sep 5 2011 episode
    Group: egodeath Message: 7490 From: egodeath Date: 26/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    https://cyberdisciple.wordpress.com/2015/12/25/thoughts-on-jan-irvin-tom-hatsis-primacy-of-cog-sci-eternalism-metaphor/

    Deconstructing Hatsis’ writing strategy

    There’s an element of cowardice and playing it safe when you restrict yourself to pointing out the easiest flaws on the part of those brave, bold, manly theorists (Allegro/Ruck/Irvin/Rush) who have put forth a positive conjecture and partially constructed the beginnings of an interpretive theory, while you yourself refrain from putting forth any conjectures of your own in this domain lest you be subject to criticism.

    There are no dates on Hatsis’ articles and videos – why such a elementary scholarly gap here? That is a flaw a weakness, shortcoming in the egodeath website: I should have put dates when I copied my 2000-2007 postings to the site, I should’ve put dates and signature on every screenful of information there.

    Apparently Hatsis’ somewhat cowardly work on critiquing his easiest-possible, narrowest-possible “secret Amanita cult” target came before his bold manly mature work on witches’ ointment — in the latter, he does put himself out there, he puts himself at risk, he subjects himself to debunking once he is confident that his evidence will stand up to criticism.

    All these writers are outdated, Allegro through Rush. They advance the crude, unsophisticated 1967-1970 “secret Amanita cult” theory, which was motivated by Allegro wanting to portray early Christians as discreditable in a sensationalist way.

    That was Allegro’s style of writing; his motivation was to discredit early Christianity and make it look despicable. Allegro makes for a very poor, skewed choice if you’re looking for a scholar who is trying to positively put forth a visionary plant theory of religion — that was not Allegro’s motivation or concern!

    That *is* the concern of Ruck, Heinrich, M. Hoffman, Irvin, and Rush. I take it furthest: I like Christianity and religious mythology and I am intent on revealing Christianity as a psilocybin tradition and system of metaphor describing by analogy entheogen-revealed Eternalism.

    My foundation has a theorist is not religious mythology; my motivation is not to debunk religion; my motivation is to form the non-metaphor Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence and then show it to be successful and coherent by virtue of it being able to do what no one else is able to do: decode religious mythology as metaphor for describing Eternalism Cybernetics.

    It is impossible to solve the riddle of the meaning of Christianity if you hate Christianity. Only if you like Christianity and religious mythology is it possible to solve it.

    Ruck is distorted by brittle overemphasis on “secrecy”, he carries an unsophisticated theory of secrecy.

    The Egodeath theory instead advances the Entheogen-Revealed Eternalism theory of religious mythology, including a far more robust and sophisticated variant of the mushroom Christianity theory, and including the 100% Entheogen Theory of Religion and Culture, which Hatsis’ work, when corrected, serves as a supportive brick for.

    A Prohibition-coerced element of cowardice: Hatsis wrote in such a way that he can pose as putting forth additional mushroom evidence, while pretending to disbelieve it.

    This way you get to take credit for contributing mushroom evidence, while not subjecting yourself to any criticism.

    This is a certain self-preservation mode of criticizing others. It is separate from any systematic critique; it is rather scattershot dancing, to work with evidence while avoiding being subject to criticism during Prohibition.

    Why do writers write such an insane way during Prohibition? Prohibition has created, and driven writers into creating, a waffling and roundabout way of writing and theorizing. It’s all an awkward, inefficient, roundabout dance done under the boot-heel of Establishment Prohibition censorship.

    There is a temptation to distort your writing and unfairly (and irrelevantly) beat up on other writers, egged on by Prohibition’s rewards which distort the debate and interfere with the positive work of theory building, theory correction-and-construction.

    The Establishment forces of Prohibition want to get the researchers to tear each other down instead of constructing a successful theory.


    I noticed a comparable kind of evasiveness in Wasson: he wrote in a strange roundabout way where he never made any positive assertions on exactly what his position is regarding the extent of psychoactives throughout Christianity but he instead indirectly alluded to and implied what his position is, and people indeed ended up very confused about just what is his position.

    This made it challenging to criticize Wasson because with normal scholars, with normal writers, they write something clearly and then you critique what they wrote, so you for a normal scholar you would need to reread and check your sources once.

    But with Wasson it was required to intensely decipher his readings three or four times to unravel implicitly just what exactly is he asserting. He was a terrible terrible writer!

    It’s shocking that anyone would say that Watson is a good writer; he was extremely evasive and prevaricating, to the point of having to quadruple check and exactly quote every passage he wrote on the subject, because he was so intent on giving a misimpression of what his position is, of what he is and is not asserting.

    It is extremely not my style to formally quote passages, but I had to take that writing style to an absurd extreme in my article on Wasson, because there was nothing but confusion over who wrote what and who asserted what.

    To all those who say that Watson was a good writer: explain to me why everyone misunderstood what his position is regarding the extent of mushrooms throughout Christianity.

    This confusion was baked into the writing style of both Wasson and Allegro; they made it very difficult for themselves and everyone else to follow the non-conversation, the strangely abortive non-debate.

    They failed to put it out in the open, on the table, the clear Michael Hoffman question and discuss it openly like plain straightforward people:

    To what extent were visionary plants used throughout our white Christian European history?

    Why in the hell can’t researchers and scholars simply put this out on the table publicly and discuss it like adults straightforwardly? What’s the problem, what’s the hang-up? Why such shirking of this question and such a refusal to look directly at this question and discuss it openly and directly in a straightforward way? Taboo, Prohibition, censorship of the press? Censorship of the brain?

    Tricycle magazine, Gnosis journal, Zig Zag Zen: The first thing all of them should’ve done on page 1 is to put the question out on the table: to what extent visionary plants in history?

    All of them failed to do this. They all failed to look at the question, to raise the question, to put the question out on the table; instead, they all silently caved to Prohibition assumptions and silently assumed the lack of visionary plants in religion.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7491 From: egodeath Date: 26/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    Hatsis fails to address this obvious question that his argumentation raises.

    He says that the artists chose to depict trees in an abstract stylized fashion in a mushroom-like way, and denies that this refers to mushrooms.

    The screamingly obvious question that he fails to raise and address is:

    Out of all the ways that the school of artists could’ve chosen to abstractly represent trees, why did they choose such a mushroom-like stylization?

    Mushrooms induce religious experiencing appropriate for these depictions-by-analogy describing what is experienced induced by visionary plants (psilocybin).

    The fact that Hatsis neglected to address that obvious question shows that what we have here is apologetics.

    Proper debate is a matter of stating what the opponents would argue and then addressing those stated opponents’ arguments. Hatsis should’ve stated his argument of:

    In these abstract representations, why did the artists choose to use an emphatically mushroom-like style of trees?

    Genuine scholarship, not apologetics, would have addressed that natural question of the opponents.

    A hallmark of apologetics is its one-sidedness, persuasion by the deliberate omission of what the opponents would point out.

    http://egodeath.com/christianmushroomtrees.htm

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7493 From: egodeath Date: 26/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Drug-free pseudo-shamanism fails authentication test
    A radical difference of emphasis is the difference between a good and bad, true vs. false theories.

    Wilber/Ball puts unity at the center, with slight mention (as if incidental inconvenience) of submission, trust, dependence, prayer, and the lack of practical control of our control-thinking during the mystic peak state.

    They have a semi-articulate theory of unity consciousness and a weak, inarticulate, non-integrated, non-theory of non-control like the song Little Dolls or Twilight Zone or No One at the Bridge.

    Yet Ball says that through trust and submission we arrive at unity. So you would expect a robust crucial theory of cybernetic noncontrol, trust in the unveiled source of frozen future control thoughts.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7495 From: egodeath Date: 26/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Drug-free pseudo-shamanism fails authentication test
    My material, my theory is precisely the most profound part of what Ball criticizes as missing when he says that people leap over all their “shit” that they have to “work through” and they jump straight up to unity consciousness and then fall straight back down into the egoic, back into their “shit”, back into their egoic everyday thinking

    Let me translate: when these people (Grof) talk about the “spiritual emergency” and their “dark material” that they have to work through, what the hell are they talking about?

    The Egodeath theory, my theory, the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence, specifies exactly what they’re talking about in incomprehension: most profoundly, we are not talking about workaday psychotherapy; what we’re really all ultimately talking about that I have refined systematically, we are actually talking about possibility thinking, the Possibilism mental model of time, self, and control, free-will thinking, egoic delusion — that is our so-called “dark material”, the so-called “shit” that we have to “work through” as Ball puts it vaguely, woefully inadequately.

    Putting together Ball’s inarticulate mentions of surrender and trust, it becomes clear that the unity theory is inadequate to the extreme. Ball’s theory is entirely missing the real action.

    Where the real action is at in enlightenment is not the unity consciousness goal, but rather the gateway of how to get there.

    Everyone has been focusing, theorizing on unity — that is wrong. You have to do what I do, which is focus and zero-in on the *gateway to* unity, which is “surrender and trust”, which is, to be specific, transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism thinking — cybernetic egodeath. Eternalism self-control cybernetics.

    It is impossible to enter fully in or remain in unity consciousness when you lack the complete Egodeath theory, including the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence, and the Entheogen Eternalism theory of religious mythology.

    Woe to those who would venture into unity consciousness, trespassers lacking the access password, bringing their contamination, their impurity of control-thinking into the inner sanctum.

    You will be thrown out of unity consciousness by control seizure, thrown out into the outer darkness outside the banqueting garden wall gate, with wailing and gnashing of teeth.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7496 From: egodeath Date: 26/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Drug-free pseudo-shamanism fails authentication test
    The furies sleeping around the omphalos navel tombstone trap in the inner sanctum of the temple are awakened when you bring your Possibilism-thinking impurity and contamination into the sacred holy no-free-will zone of clear light of coherent thinking in the torch-illuminated loose cognitive state.

    Hera is furious when Apollo’s impure thinking awakens the Furies sleeping around the omphalos net tomb stone of rock birth.
    Group: egodeath Message: 7497 From: egodeath Date: 26/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Drug-free pseudo-shamanism fails authentication test
    Where the real action is at in enlightenment is not the unity consciousness goal, but rather the gateway of how to get there and how to remain there in peace, legitimately, authorized, with authority, legitimate, blessed — not being in unity consciousness while you are under the curse of control instability due to contaminated, accursed thinking, the Possibilism mental model of time, self, possibility, and control.

    Non-drug unity meditation is illegitimate bastardized imitation of religion that cannot endure, that cannot stand testing, that testing proves to be no foundation for practical control.

    Authenticity, authorized, legitimacy, authenticated, trial by ordeal, trial by fire of loose cognitive binding, trial by testing control stability to see if it collapses into instability and self defeat, or if it stands durable and reliable, enduring foundation, or a foundation of impotent air and illusion.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7499 From: egodeath Date: 26/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Drug-free pseudo-shamanism fails authentication test
    The teaching gesture is pointing down while pointing also up.

    Pointing down to the noninitiates’ outsiders’ mundane surface exoteric lower meaning per Literalist OSC Possibilism; ‘Orthodox’ per Pagels’ first 3 books.

    While *also* pointing up to the initiates’ insiders’ profound transcendent referent esoteric higher meaning per Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism; entheogen-revealed Eternalism noncontrol Cybernetics; ‘Gnostic’ per Pagels’ first 3 books.

    Catholic leaders teach exoteric to lay and esoteric to elite, and the New World natives compete against understood Catholic esotericism teaching. Catholic writers about the Eucharist clearly understood it as mushrooms.

    There was the same flame war of rhetoric among pagan and Christian: you eat at the table of demons, we eat the divine flesh of the savior.


    Cause you know sometimes words have two meanings

    If there’s a bustle in your hedge-row, don’t be alarmed
    It’s just a Spring-clean for the May queen


    Cast out the demon of Possibilism thinking.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7500 From: egodeath Date: 27/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Drug-free pseudo-shamanism fails authentication test
    It is curious that psychedelics writers recommend as standard but CRUCIAL the vague, strange, alien, undefined saving-advice “trust” and “surrender”, amounting to submissive prayer of formal conscious dependency.

    What the hell are they talking about? Explain this in terms that a no-nonsense, self-respecting Acid Metal guitarist or soldier can make rational sense out of.

    Where does this vague informal folk wisdom come from?

    Explain to the tough level-headed soldier or fraternity brother football player why he must surrender to the hidden controller of his control-thoughts, invincible Mithras inserting sacrificial knife into the fatally wounded shoulder on which the bull’s power depends.

    In my main article, see my relatively formal writeup of testing control and having to consciously trust in, surrender to, and be submissive to the normally hidden uncontrollable source of control-thoughts, on which you always have been dependent, but previously unconsciously dependent on.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7501 From: egodeath Date: 27/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Photos of tree vs snake diagrams and paintings
    Friendly angels poking at the philosophers in the furnace, cooking them in the loose cognitive binding state, demonic animals consuming the mortal, impure, irrational, illusion-based free-will Possibilism thinking, producing enlightened insiders, esoteric religious philosophers, who are fated to be in on the riddle joke analogy language

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    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/426548791?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/426548791
    Group: egodeath Message: 7502 From: egodeath Date: 27/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Drug-free pseudo-shamanism fails authentication test
    Another standard phrase to track is “let go”.

    There’s a folk informal practical linguistic equivalent of the Egodeath theory’s explanation of:

    consciously repudiating

    dependence on egoic freewill autonomy as the foundation of personal control power

    and affirming instead

    the uncontrollable source of pregiven control-thoughts lying frozen in the block universe as the foundation on which the mind’s control-steering now consciously depends.

    This changed model of the source of control is integrated with a changed model of possibility and time — that doesn’t come through in the folk language of “let go, surrender, trust”.

    Martin Ball diminishes shamanism as reifying imagined constructs while enlightenment recognizes those as mental constructs.

    Similarly I diminish and disparage the folk knowledge that you need “trust, letting go, surrender”, to reach unity nondual consciousness.

    The Egodeath theory points precisely to what’s really required, specifically and explicitly: transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism, to fully reach and remain in in peacefully, stably, nondual unity consciousness.

    The goal per the Egodeath theory is not nondual unity consciousness, but enlightenment about control,

    Cybernetic enlightenment, full mental development and ability to access and fully utilize, authorized, loosecog.

    I have provided the specific practical key to go in and out of loosecog garden banquet party with stability.

    For example now the Loose Cognitive Science lab is domesticated and open for research business, no longer an unmapped frontier.

    Now we can map and explore, the dragon threat is harnessed.

    This achievement includes ability to enjoy nondual unity consciousness, but my focus is mental model transformation and civilizing the wild threat of the dragon, to be permitted to access all loosecog state realm and mode. Like harnessing the wild dangerous technology of cranked guitar amps.

    I have harnessed dangerous and wild loose cog as a now fully usable technology, not only made nondual unity consciousness sometimes available.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7503 From: egodeath Date: 27/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Nondual unity = lesser mysteries != inside boundary
    A report of full intellectual comprehension of the Egodeath theory (the 1988 Cybernetic Theory of what Ego Transcendence & Transcendent Knowledge is centrally about) in conjunction with beginning access to loosecog.

    https://cyberdisciple.wordpress.com/2009/06/13/description-of-my-altered-state-experiencing-watts-the-joyous-cosmology/

    With reference to Watts.

    Martin Ball is like Wilber not Watts; focused on nondual unity consciousness through non-drug unity meditation.

    Watts focused on enlightenment about control, eventually incorporating exploring that through LSD.

    Wilber/Ball vs. Watts/Hoffman.

    The difference between Wilber and Ball is Wilber lacks entheogens.

    Ball is Wilber on entheogens, still lacking Watts’ satori, which blossomed in Hoffman’s Egodeath theory, about Zen and the Problem of Control.

    My father gave me Wilber and Watts, said Wilber covers others, yet gave me Watts seoarately.

    Watts breaks the Wilber/Ball paradigm of seeing nondual unity consciousness while being blind to Eternalism Cybernetics which is central and a hard requirement, the main requirement, to fully access and stably at peace remain in unity consciousness.

    Unity consciousness is not the goal or the central focus or the motivation for the project. My motivation was not unity; my motivation was enlightenment to gain practical control in personal self-help enlightenment.

    I read Cyber’s postings with interest in reading my earlier writing. I never get a chance to read my earlier writing. It is new to me. It is like studying for the GRE — I knew that stuff in a previous lifetime and I am encountering it again to re-learn it.

    The above report is of a deliberate first learning of Egodeath theory (Cybernetic Eternalism and re-location of dependency, re-pointing of assumed dependency for control and revision of the world model of possibility) in order to then enter and leverage and utilize and explore loosecog.

    This report and the Egodeath theory has no particular emphasis on unity nondual consciousness, which has been overemphasized.

    The Egodeath theory (which is a model of x, y, z that enables a, b, c) de-emphasizes nondual unity consciousness.

    1978-1988 newage Transpersonal Psychology overemphasized nondual unity consciousness. I am setting things straight.

    My grandfather: primitive OSC New Testament Christianity.

    My father: led me through newage spiritual self-help encounter groups and holotropic breathwork and Transpersonal Psychology, almost totally stripped of its psychedelic origin.

    When you remove psychedelics, the result is the idol of nondual unity consciousness.

    When you restore the censored and suppressed psychedelics origin and source of religion and newage spiritual psychonautica, the balance is corrected, to emphasize Eternalism Cybernetics rather than nondual unity consciousness.

    We are in a special phase now with Martin Ball all focused on nondual unity consciousness but having little focus on the Cybernetic Egodeath theory although we conversed around 2007 and I helped point him in the right direction for entheogen podcasts after Max Freakout.

    Martin Ball has as sophisticated a model of entheogenic phenomenology as you can have given the limitation of knowing nondual unity consciousness without knowing Eternalism Cybernetics.

    He has the very barest, folk, crude knowledge of “trust, surrender, let go” (prayer, submission; a shift in mental assumption about what our control power is dependent on and what it means to steer among possibilities in time).

    A focus on nondual unity consciousness is of no use, without a full understanding and mastery of the conditional gateway, how to sacrifice and repudiate erroneous dependency and revise it to correct dependency, a stable foundation now for not only, not merely having unity nondual consciousness, but more powerfully and usefully and broadly than that, having an ALL-ACCESS PASS now properly equipped as explorer and researcher.

    We were explorers before, hunting the prey of nondual unity consciousness, but we had no dragon arrows. Now Apollo has equipped us with the divine tools engineered by Hephaestos, which we need.

    We were explorers of the Loose Cognitive Science research lab but we lacked the necessary tools that are required to have a legit, authorized, authenticated, viable, stable access to loosecog.

    Now we access not only nondual unity consciousness in lasting, authenticated, earned mode, properly equipped now to do so in peace and stability, but now we also access all areas of the loosecog realm or mode.

    — Michael Hoffman, birth day of controller X, Xmas 2015.

    On this day, the avatar of controller X is born, savior given to us by controller X, as a sacrifice for new life paradigm that we are brought into.

    In him we are made to correct, revise, die, sacrifice, repudiate, and be reconstituted, transformed, given a-thanatos and purity, the offensive-to-divine thinking impurity done away with, now authorized to go in and out through the gate to eat of the Tree of Life.

    Now we have been brought into the garden wedding banquet, authorized for All Access of the loosecog lab, no longer being thrown out as malformed trespasser, by higher thinking.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7504 From: egodeath Date: 27/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Nondual unity = lesser mysteries != inside boundary
    Ball is restricted to a small area within loosecog exploration space. He is permitted to go into the garden banquet party through the gate, but he has bare minimum folk knowledge of trust, surrender, let go, and he fails to appreciate how rich and crucial that subject is, he doesn’t recognize that that closet is the most major area to explore and the most important to map out and domestiate, civilize, develop — it is prime real estate but he merely does away with it, although it is attractive and will demand and command the full attention of a serious sustained explorer.

    He has temporarily turned away from that door by folk trust and folk degree of surrender. But the rational mind sees more attraction to Medusa’s snakes.

    Ball has opened up a little ability to explore some of loosecog space but his folk technique of trust and let go and surrender is completely inadequate to do a proper scientific exploration of the attractive control riddle, the enigma of surrender, what does this mean really?

    We need to know more. We are drawn to know more.

    The Egodeath theory equips to explore this in proper adequate scientific detail rather than turning our back to control seizure to gaze hazily at nonduality.

    Trust is not a paradigm shift and does not enable exploring loosecog space.

    Eternalism Cybernetics per the Egodeath theory is the required equipment to truly explore this realm and not merely appease the mysterious threat.

    Nondual unity consciousness is what beginners, dabblers, initially focus on.

    I see it as a fireworks distraction, like Ball belittles the pop reifications of shamanism spectacle.

    Ball puts down superficial fireworks. I put down Wilber/Ball’s nondual unity consciousness as shallow superficial fireworks for beginners.

    Advanced insiders (knowing Eternalism Cybernetics) have access to a superset of that and have stronger, fuller, more stable access to nondual unity consciousness. They have more connections, a more developed model.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7505 From: egodeath Date: 27/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Nondual unity = lesser mysteries != inside boundary
    Ball calls on us to not jump to nonduality and back to egoic delusion, doing a flyover (ignoring, bypassing) of our dark material that we need to process-through.

    I disagree that nonduality is THE goal, and I disagree with the psychotherapy tone of conceptualizing or dark material.

    What Ball conceptualizes as dark material is the heart of enlightenment, it is the central matter of enlightenment and transformation, it is more important than non-duality and it is more the destination.

    The real goal is to thoroughly understand, thoroughly achieve mental model transformation about control and possibility and time, after we have achieved full adequate mental model transformation, then we can enjoy exploring the overall loose cognitive state realm.

    We then have
    full access to non-duality,
    full access to the loose cognitive realm.
    full understanding of the limitations of control,
    full understanding of mental model transformation, the two models of time and control.

    Which one of these is the goal, which one of these is the gateway?

    The gateway is the journey, and the goal is to have a successful journey to the promised land, and the goal is to be in the promised land exploring and growing more, after having finished basic training of mental model correction and purification.

    Non-duality appears soon in the journey but fast on its heels is the threatening dragon of control-loss.

    Folk trust and surrender will keep the dragon at bay, but you have to really truly engage, fully engage the threat, fully explore the threat.

    You cannot be at peace in the promised land when you have not fully explored and tamed the vulnerability, the threat of the dragon of surrender.

    Yes initial crude basic trust and crude surrender does enable you to not be kicked out, but you’re not really in the promised land until you have fully confronted head-on, fully mapped out this dragon threat and enjoyed your full attraction to the Medusa attractor.

    Ball things that we want Is nonduality consciousness and that Medusa is an unfortunate minor requirement demanding folk surrender/trust.

    What we actually want is to fully engage and explore Medusa.

    You have not really passed through the gate in any full sense until then.

    The goal is not just non-duality; the goal is to explore the loosecog space particularly Medusa monsters.

    Therefore the goal is to explore the threat, not just surrender; but to fully understand what surrendering is all about.

    Ball leaps over this too quickly. Just because he succeeds via folk trust and surrender does not really mean he has transcended or explored the Dragon threat, no way.

    Ball doesn’t have transcendent knowledge even if he understands in some way non-duality; it is a beginner, very inadequate, very minimal understanding of non-duality.

    That’s not what we are attracted to. We are attracted to the valuable treasure-guarding threat that Ball would have us folk-curtsy to and move along past.

    The treasure is not nonduality consciousness, but mental model transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism, which includes full access to nondual unity consciousness.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7507 From: egodeath Date: 27/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Nondual unity = lesser mysteries != inside boundary
    Ball’s folk degree of trust/let go/surrender doesn’t enable or accomplish full sacrifice and repudiation of delusion and achieve full mature stability of control.

    Thus his nondual unity consciousness is dirty and combines nonduality with mental-model impurity and delusion — an unstable mixture of incompatibles.

    As soon as you relax into unity consciousness, the dragon will loom forcing looking at the most-attractive problem of loss of control.

    Enlightenment is not by stealing unearned nonduality through folk trust/surrender, but through looking *fully* at the guarding dragon, mature completed nonduality subsequent to *full* exploration of noncontrol, and full *intellectual* revision of mental model of possibility and control and time.

    The result is fully durable nonduality that now is compatible with thinking about and testing self-control.

    There can be no satori, no resting in the sensation of nonduality, without full sacrifice of childish *thinking* about control and time.

    We must correct our thinking, explore it, not just avoid it by incomprehending surrender/trust/letting go, which fails to climax, fails to enlighten, fails to transform.

    First we have the sensation of nonduality and we have folk surrender/prayer, then full mental model transformation, Eternalism cybernetics study and grappling and full sacrificial repudiation.

    You cannot steal unity without paying the price: sacrifice fully Possibilism thinking, to purchase full enlightenment, which is Eternalism Cybernetics as well as partial unity nonduality.

    YOU CANNOT HAVE FULL NONDUALITY WHILE HAVING egoic freewill Possibilism incoherent cybernetics foundation — and folk trust will fail when pressed, out of unsated curiosity about Transcendent Knowledge.

    Enlightenment is not just about the sensation of nonduality, but constructing a durable reliable basis of transformed mental model of control and time and possibility.

    A superficial inadequate folk trust is feeble and inadequate.

    We *cannot* trust and surrender *adequately*, without full formal intellectual sacrifice of assumed control power premised on the initial, Possibilism mental worldmodel.

    Folk trust/surrender doesn’t cut it — doesn’t satisfy higher thinking, doesn’t produce the climax and new enlightened mental model we want and are driven to pursue.

    People want more than unthinking nonduality that explodes into panic as soon as the mind perceives its control vulnerability.

    Folk trust doesn’t satisfy and will run out when inevitably inspected and tested.

    The mind is not only attracted to nonduality feeling; the mind is attracted to the Cybernetics noncontrol aspect of nonduality.

    We need a full complete intellectual model of the Cybernetics aspect of Zen nonduality per Watts, per the Egodeath theory — THAT is what we want, not an inarticulate illiterate feeling of nonduality that is all too amenable to deluded freewill confusion and mental incoherence.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7508 From: egodeath Date: 27/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    Always speak in a semi-veiled way that is obscured enough.

    How hidden is hidden enough?

    Do not reveal the higher referent (psilocybin-revealed Eternalism) to those on the outside.

    Revealing only an isolated piece keeps the overall referent meaning sufficiently concealed.

    “Do not reveal the meaning to outsiders.”
    This principle thankfully is relatively clear.

    Possible reasons why writers and artists followed this tradition of meaning-veiling, is a distinct topic. I listed such reasons in past postings.

    Regardless of their reasons for veiling and being obscure to the outsiders, that is what they did, and recognizing that helps to decode analogy into the loosecog cybernetics referent.

    The esoteric artists have manifestly been successful, because now people who ought to recognize a mushroom as a mushroom (blind man Hatsis and his follower Ruck) are reduced to denying that what is plainly depicted as a mushroom is a mushroom.

    Hatsis fails to even perceive that the bestiary is in the language of {sufficient concealing of analogy-for-Eternalism from outsiders}.

    This can be characterized as a definitely evident ambiguity, but this is a very specific ambiguity: write and draw in such a way that those who are on the outside are uncertain, even if it does look like a mushroom, they lack the other connections to make any real coherence out of this.

    Why would it be a mushroom? Why would there be a mushroom in this secular non-religious art?

    Esoteric artists can reveal mushrooms and yet the outsiders remain completely puzzled and in the dark over the meaning-connections, so the mushroom might as well be hidden.

    The meaning is hidden from them, so they are left saying things like “the mysterious mushroom-shaped object” or “this mushroom-shaped tree” without really comprehending the meaning behind it, which only the insiders have locked onto.

    Only those who are inside have locked onto the framework, the language of making sense out of this.

    The outsiders see a mushroom, but in a way, they don’t see a mushroom.

    They are unable to connect the idea of {mushroom} to the other symbols and mythemes presented.

    Outsiders can’t even recognize mythemes as such; they can only perceive the surface, not the higher referent; they are outsiders to the higher, referent meaning.

    Outsiders cannot even perceive that there is an activity of referring going on here.

    The mysteries (analogies referring to entheogen-revealed Eternalism self-control cybernetics) have been effectively concealed from those on the outside.

    It is an emphatic non-goal to persuade or convince outsiders to adopt isolated elements of the insiders’ comprehension, the insiders mapping.

    I will discuss the incomprehension of the outsiders and how that works: how is it that the outsiders are prevented from comprehension?

    How does veiling work? How does concealing and then revealing work?

    The outsiders lack the target referent experiencing domain.

    Even if you do reveal to an outsider-to-Eternalism like Ruck that a mushroom tree in a bestiary refers to a mushroom, it actually refers to more than a mushroom: {mushroom tree} refers to a systematic whole entire system of connections (entheogen-revealed Eternalism).

    A mushroom tree refers to the use of mushrooms revealing frozen-time no-free-will and mono-possibility.


    A non-goal is to convince outsiders to use the insiders’ reading/decoding. It is not a goal to persuade outsiders.

    A goal is explain why outsiders cannot perceive the referent, and why the referent remains hidden from them, obscured, veiled and not visible.

    It is a goal to reveal the mysteries on the World-Wide Web. All will be revealed.

    All has been here revealed by me to anyone who is made to learn this.

    My role is figure useful sh*t out and present explanations. Not to try to persuade outsiders.

    Those who are given to me hear my voice and follow me.

    Those whose ears are closed to my voice do not see what I have revealed; my words remain concealed to them.

    As the Hatsis/Ruck school of interpretation asserts (since Ruck is a follower of Hatsis), these are not mushrooms; they are trees.

    For you they are trees. Stay on the outside. The gate is closed for you.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7509 From: egodeath Date: 28/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Church fathers didn’t exist, Christianity didn’t exist
    Read Kilindi Lyi to prepare for the military militant radical durable righteousness of the non-Prohibition-complicit Egodeath theory, which stands up to vigorous testing.

    I was also stunned by the lack of Prohibition-complicit compromise by Vivian McPeak, as freedom-comprehending as Steve Kubby.

    I am so accustomed to expecting compromised thinking and rhetoric, it was almost shocking to see other clear-thinking radicals.

    https://sites.google.com/site/originsofchristianity/the-textual-tradition/christian-peer-review

    https://sites.google.com/site/originsofchristianity/the-textual-tradition/home
    See “Academic Control”


    Shun the tainted Prohibition-complicit entheogen-diminishing academic Establishment, who are in bed with the Creator’s delusion enforcement automatons. You’ll no sooner find a quest for truth there than in the non-drug unity meditation zendo.

    How far behind does academia, with its retarding ball-and-chain of Prohibition compliance, lag behind the Internet? Is academia falling behind, or catching up?

    The Establishment is committed to a false narrative of “our white religion lacks entheogens”. This narrative causes Harvard’s Schultes to dance awkwardly in his 1975 Golden Guide to Hallucinogens, as I deconstructed previously.

    Don’t trust *anyone* while this narrative clouds the mainstream mind and skews research and theory-construction, just like the apologetics motive prevents unbiased “research on early Christianity” (aka experts in unicorns farting rainbows). Most entheogen scholars fell headlkng into

    Most academic scholarship on entheogens is as heavily compromised as Bart Ehrman and relies on the same non-foundation of argumentation style as Ehrman: credentialism, old boys’ network, discussing the credentials and esteem and who you are friends with at the moment, who has written about you favorably.

    “Is Doherty right? Let us put him to the test: let us examine his Establishment academic credentials. Who is he friends with?”

    That is the foundation of Bart Ehman’s argument for the historicity of Jesus.

    The Establishment in-group view doesn’t agree with Doherty, therefore this reduces the credibity of Doherty’s research.

    This needs the concept of correction mechanisms in Science and academia.

    Irvin is right to not respect Harvard. Its correction mechanisms are weak. Correction is likely to come from outside The System.

    Harvard eg. Schultes wrongly asserts that our own white Christian history lacks entheogens at the heart of the church.

    Even McKenna dug us into this self-defeating, dead-end, most-crucial and fatal fallacy.

    McKenna invested in the Establishment narrative that Catholocism wasn’t mushroom-based, but the way the Eucharist is described indicates mushrooms to those who are on the inside, initiates.

    It is now clear, easy to theorize, why the Catholic dominators demonized natives’ mushroom use: competition.

    Harvard needs radical correction, which is unlikely to come from within macadamia given that it is in the bed with Prohibition, complicit, and is therefore hopelessly compromised by a conflict of interest.

    When evaluating the Egodeath theory, all groups can go to Hell, as far as me whorishly trying to curry favor with them and trying to ingratiate myself with them.

    I am an adult mature constructive theory builder: where Ruck is wrong, I point that out, and right similarly. What is relevant is the theory elements, not esteem and credentials. ‘Esteem’ means the *appearance* or *semblance* of merit.

    Everyone is a mixed bag, (even the Egodeath theory, in theory, although almost every hypothesis in it is durable under genuine critique and will withstand the fire of critical testing).

    The Egodeath theory targets clarifying for insiders, not ingratiating with outsiders. Not complicity with the entheogen-diminishment Establishment.

    A proven effective strategy for developing the Egodeath theory is, approaching it as an exercise in circular/systemic theoretical consistency.

    Sure-footed Hephaestos magically forcing interpretation, is the unimpeachable, fire-tested, invincible, all-conquering Mithras’ Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence and 100% Entheogen Theory of Religion and Culture.

    Academic esteem counts for shit. Fools peer-reviewing fools, blind will both fall into the pit.

    Who you are for the moment pretending to be friendly with counts for shit.

    Everyone judging the Egodeath theory, go Hell; judge it on the genuine basis of content merit, not transient social esteem.

    You can all bl*w me; which is to say, you must judge my content based on its merit, not on my credentials and social standing.

    Don’t be like Bart Ehrman judging Doherty on his credentials; instead, read the content of arguments in his book.

    Academia deserves no respect when it props up the Jesus figure’s historicity on the foundation of sand, of focusing on Doherty’s credentials. Is that all you’ve got?! Alas we are disappointed it is.

    The entheogen-diminishing theory of white Christian practice must stand up by itself, not propped up by worthless meaningless diplomas unearned by people who know nothing of Apollo’s laurel wreath victory shooting arrows at the dragon threat of control-loss to gain fire-durable mental worldmodel transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7511 From: egodeath Date: 29/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Church fathers didn’t exist, Christianity didn’t exist
    My credibility has nothing to do with my Establishment credentials.

    I am proudly planting the flag of IEEE/HKN on my mountain of breakthrough priority of discovery.

    I claim this victory for decoding Entheogen Eternalism on behalf of EE students.

    I am only interested in destroying the system of Establishment citations network. Fools citing fools, a matrix of error. I just figure shit out.

    A citation network leading deeper into a labyrinth of folly, or correcting towards the direction of wisdom? It has gone both directions.

    At the heart of the labyrinth of searching, is the Egodeath theory: Mithras puts the sacrificial knife in your hand to seize the bull, bring down his linchpin of illusion-based control-power foundation.

    Insert the pointed thought into the seizure wound opening at the bull’s foundation of power.

    People should be citing Thagard when they cite Kuhn — Kuhn merely *presented* the paradigm incommensurability problem, Thagard *solved* it rationally.

    Institutional researchers have lost control of the conversation.

    The Internet democratized independent scholarship to stand on its own merit, not the Establishment system of prestige (the *appearance* of greatness and insight). I shun that failed game.

    The Establishment’s citations network has led to folly perhaps as much as wisdom.

    The System wants to cite my Theory? Cite all of it, damn it: 100% Metaphorical 100% Entheogenic 100% Eternalism. The most radical extreme theory possible. None More Extreme.

    You worship print? Here is my peer-reviewed comic book salvation tract from the rave and Rock arena. But who are my peers? Not Doherty, Ruck, barely Freke at best. Cliff Burton (but he’s dead).

    Where are the peers to review a multiply radical revolutionary novel theory? I am teaching everyone and I am stating what everyone is prevented by The Rules from saying (or thinking).

    Peer review is irrelevant posturing. Peer review of censored unthinkable tabooed realizations: Peart cannot comment.

    Peer review is not viable when a theory combines forbidden Metaphorical forbidden Entheogenic forbidden Eternalism.

    Peart’s peer review assessment of the Egodeath theory: “Holy shit!!”
    Sam Harris’s peer review assessment of the Egodeath theory: “Holy shit!!”

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7512 From: egodeath Date: 29/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Church fathers didn’t exist, Christianity didn’t exist
    Stop citing my 100% Metaphoricity/Ahistoricity theory without mentioning that it is an integral part of my Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism theory.

    Stop citing my 100% Entheogen theory without mentioning that it is an integral part of my Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism theory.

    Stop citing my 100% Eternalism Cybernetics no-free-will theory without mentioning that it is an integral part of my Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism theory.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7513 From: egodeath Date: 30/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Church fathers didn’t exist, Christianity didn’t exist
    John Bartram’s site is fresh, recent, reached a certain milestone and he’s ready to summarize as videos.

    https://sites.google.com/site/originsofchristianity/

    Seems like what I wished for: a modern-day Edwin Johnson. The clue that bothered me was the scholarly just-so storybooks that had no pictures of Jesus or the cross or Christianity in the first centuries, only generic images with fake Christian captions attached like:

    “This depicts Jesus with the attributes of Apollo.”
    “These people banqueting indicates a Christian agape meal.”
    “This depicts Jesus secretly, disguised as Dionysus.”
    “This Chi-Rho is how the cross was depicted in the first Christian centuries.”
    “Ok, that’s the pictoral evidence for Christianity in the first centuries. Next up, the Holy Roman Empire.”

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7514 From: egodeath Date: 30/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    Scholars only know one language: Literalist OSC Possibilism.

    I am the first to decode and translate the second language: Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism. I’m the first bilingual modern scholar.
    Group: egodeath Message: 7515 From: egodeath Date: 30/12/2015
    Subject: Twins
    The first one is mortal, the second a-thanatos. I am lately of two minds, two legs, two mental models.

    Dukes of Stratosphear:

    Collideascope
    Everything looks topsy turvy
    You will see one young girl split into two
    One half who’s false one half true
    You better get your glue ready

    Boy and girl carried by ram flying, girl falls to her death

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7516 From: egodeath Date: 30/12/2015
    Subject: Divine horseman battling chthonic serpent
    Man on horse battles subterranean serpent underneath horse

    Serpent is worldline heimarmene fated future path of rider who steers horse

    After ingesting the cognitive loosener, the mind perceives its hidden underground invisible preset rail that forces control-thoughts into the mind along the time axis in the frozen rock universe, and control-thinking struggles to retain control that is premised on the illusion foundation of freewill autonomy power.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7517 From: egodeath Date: 30/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    IT IS *IMPERATIVE* THAT WE FLIP THE NARRATIVE!!

    from “Catholic religion eliminated mushroom use” to “Catholic religion was always understood as based on mushroom use.”

    How close is James Arthur to recognizing that mushrooms were the center of Catholic Christian practice throughout history? I don’t recall discussing this particular point with him. I suspect his book is closer to this view than are Heinrich, McKenna, Ruck, and M. Hoffman.

    Even Internet radicals are incapable of wrapping their mind around this idea.

    Too many — everyone — follows McKenna the mental mis-leader down his dead-end, self-defeating path, of being blind to the presence of mushroom use and comprehension within Catholic historical normal practice.

    The System has tricked entheogen scholars into denying and suppressing mushroom use within our own religion’s history. With complicit collaborationist allies like this, who needs Prohibitionists?

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7519 From: egodeath Date: 30/12/2015
    Subject: More effective entheogen scholarship and theorizing
    More effective entheogen scholarship and theorizing

    Everyone who writes about entheogens in history, here is my better leadership in mentally framing the narrative:

    #1 most important, that entheogen scholars fatally failed to do and must emphasize, is: *explicitly* pose the question, at the start of every investigation, the Michael Hoffman question, out on the table:

    THE EXPLICIT CENTRAL QUESTION AT HAND: TO WHAT EXTENT WERE VISIONARY PLANTS USED IN OUR RELIGIONS AND CULTURAL HISTORY?

    What kinds of ways of handling kinds of evidence are possible per Feyerabend’s “anything goes” scientific method, to construct a durable Entheogen Theory of Religion and Culture?

    Stop silently prejudging and assuming. Assume the 100% Entheogen Theory of Religion and Culture in order to sincerely try your hardest to perceive the evidence.

    Do not be complicit with appeasing the entheogen-belittling Prohibition Establishment like Letcher/Hatsis initially were.

    Be conscious of all possible strategies and their pros and cons. Don’t just latch onto the first strategy you happen upon. Be ready to adjust and change your strategy of conceptualizing entheogen scholarship.

    You can prostitute yourself to be a paid lackey of the Prohibitionist Establishment by the initial Letcher-Hatsis strategy of conflating the broad entheogen theory of religion with the narrowest conception you can invent or fixate on, which is the “secret Amanita cult” theory, which is crude, outdated, and unsophisticated.

    You will be eagerly published and rewarded by Prohibition Press, Inc., by striving to suppress and cripple and isolate the kinds of evidence for the 100% Entheogen Theory of Religion and Culture.

    Don’t be fooled by insincerity: although such writers said rheorically “the entheogen scholars need to explain problems a, b, and c”, they were not (prior to their correction of their strategy) seriously interested in finding and constructing successful answers.

    Entheogen-diminishing scholars, committed to complicity with the Prohibition narrative, were interested in crippling the argumentation possibilities, shutting out a viable theory.

    The valid strategy is to adjust the theory of interpreting evidence to make it sophisticated, such as I have written new conceptions of ‘semi-veiling’ and writing by analogy-only.

    Assume myth writing is semi-veiled and analogy-only, written to communicate to insiders and sufficiently conceal the referent domain from outsiders. This enables recognizing Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism.

    Study skilled concealing and revealing per esotericism. Consider the exoteric surface referent and esoteric ultimate referent.

    It is unlawful to reveal the mysteries to the uninitiated, Mark 4:12.

    Don’t have a brittle, crude concept of “hide/secret”; have a sophisticated concept of speaking veiled to insiders to communicate to initiated insiders while sufficiently concealing meaning from noninitiated outsiders.

    Be more strategic in your nuance of narrative. Religion was always understood by initiates as based on psilocybin and visionary plants.

    An analogy is broadcast Rock lyrics, which had to semi-veil to use encoding. Even the Grateful Dead don’t explicitly write lyrics about acid.

    Don’t expect esoteric writings to be fully explicit. Expect them to clearly enough allude to Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism.

    See Hanegraaff’s keynote paper Entheogenic Esotericism, about initially being blind to the psychedelic traditional basis of New Age practice, and then after writing the history book I was waiting for in the 1990s, Hanegraaff realized he made a huge error, being “naive” to censorship and suppression by Prohibition.

    Realize that everyone agrees with the 100% Entheogen Theory of Religion and Culture but is blocked from expressing agreement.

    Don’t be deceived by the Prohibition view appearing to be popular.

    That’s an illusion caused by selective permitting of publishing. There’s *not* free speech, under the predatory forces of Prohibition.

    Letcher-Hatsis initially got his start by being a writer-for-hire employed as a Prohibition Establishment propagandist, like Hanegraaff initially mis-describing Esotericism and New Age as rejecting entheogens, and subsequently writing the truth of the matter, self-correcting.

    Read the Egodeath theory; read my writings. Recognize Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism.

    Don’t see Amanita everywhere, like the first, off-base generation of entheogen scholars; instead, perceive and recognize Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism everywhere.

    Science is self-correcting. Correct the theory-errors of the first-generation entheogen scholars; preserve their accomplishments and discoveries but reframe them in a corrected, revised, more coherent explanatory framework.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7520 From: egodeath Date: 30/12/2015
    Subject: Re: More effective entheogen scholarship and theorizing
    We insiders are more focused on Eternalism Cybernetics than on visionary plants (cognitive-binding dissolvers) that induce the Eternalism state of consciousness.

    You outsiders err in thinking we are centrally focused on concealing entheogens. Your entheogen history theories don’t ring true, because you have only the entheogen half-theory of religion.

    Myth analogy isn’t focused on entheogens, but rather on the Eternalism noncontrol that they reveal.

    We insiders are centrally focused on semi-veiling then revealing entheogen-revealed Eternalism Cybernetics, *not* entheogens! The referent meaning-domain is two degrees removed from your ability to perceive it.


    Another error rife throughout your outsiders’ crude first-generation entheogen scholarship is your failure to fully consistently systematically take into account the major distortions caused by Prohibition Censorship and taboo.

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    Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
    Group: egodeath Message: 7416 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
    Group: egodeath Message: 7417 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
    Group: egodeath Message: 7418 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
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    Group: egodeath Message: 7419 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
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    Group: egodeath Message: 7420 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
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    Group: egodeath Message: 7421 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
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    Group: egodeath Message: 7422 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
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    Group: egodeath Message: 7423 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
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    Group: egodeath Message: 7424 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
    Group: egodeath Message: 7425 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
    Subject: Satyr, goat
    Group: egodeath Message: 7426 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
    Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
    Group: egodeath Message: 7430 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
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    Group: egodeath Message: 7431 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
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    Group: egodeath Message: 7432 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
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    Group: egodeath Message: 7433 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
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    Group: egodeath Message: 7436 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
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    Group: egodeath Message: 7437 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
    Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
    Group: egodeath Message: 7438 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Understand it’s a world of outsiders
    Group: egodeath Message: 7439 From: egodeath Date: 23/12/2015
    Subject: Nondual unity = lesser mysteries != inside boundary
    Group: egodeath Message: 7440 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Nondual unity = lesser mysteries != inside boundary
    Group: egodeath Message: 7441 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Nondual unity = lesser mysteries != inside boundary
    Group: egodeath Message: 7442 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
    Subject: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    Group: egodeath Message: 7443 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    Group: egodeath Message: 7444 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    Group: egodeath Message: 7446 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    Group: egodeath Message: 7447 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Definitions, glossary, terms, terminology, abbreviations, acrony
    Group: egodeath Message: 7448 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Definitions, glossary, terms, terminology, abbreviations, acrony
    Group: egodeath Message: 7449 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Definitions, glossary, terms, terminology, abbreviations, acrony
    Group: egodeath Message: 7450 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    Group: egodeath Message: 7451 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
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    Group: egodeath Message: 7452 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
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    Group: egodeath Message: 7453 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
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    Group: egodeath Message: 7454 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
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    Group: egodeath Message: 7455 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
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    Group: egodeath Message: 7456 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
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    Group: egodeath Message: 7398 From: egodeath Date: 19/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Understand it’s a world of outsiders
    QM dogma apologetics — The book Science and Religious Experience: Are They Similar Forms of Knowledge?
    has such a BAD pop sensationalist presentation of QM and “the new Physics” that has supposedly replaced Classical Physics.  

    It’s the most flimsy, extreme, sensationalist nonsense, for example: Chaos theory says things are too complicated to predict and therefore things are not predetermined.  

    It’s unbelievably shoddy, by *anyone’s* standards.  It’s like a confused college freshman, who has picked up bits and pieces and combined them freely according to the most willfully sensationalist preconceptions.  

    He is basically saying that Newton = no-free-will and that modern physics per Einstein and his followers = freewill.  

    In fact, Einstein strongly asserted block-universe no-free-will; “God does not play dice.”, against Bohr.  A hallmark of bad, pop writing on QM is that, unlike James T. Cushing, writers conflate the mutually exclusive opposites: they tell a tale where Einstein/Bohm and Bohr are in agreement and all is peaceful and happy per Bohr’s Copenhagenism dogma.  

    But Einstein fought against Bohr and they tell competing, conflicting accounts regarding fatedness. 

    Here is a super powerful idea of mine re: QM.  Whenever anyone writes “observe” the particle, strike that out and replace it by the word “probe” the particle.  The Heisenberg Uncertainty is not a matter of “observing”, but rather a matter of “probing”, which disturbs the particle.  

    I feel sorry for those who have not had a university course and done the experiments of modern physics.  They have to rely on willfully bad writings which are intent on inserting gee-whiz cloudy thinking; these writers *want* to tell such a story and BY DAMN they are going to tell their tale, bending language as needed — WHAT WE HAVE IS QM APOLOGETICS by those committed to the freewill religion.  

    This apologetics rests on the flimsy leg of abuse of the word “observe”, to magically shift the attention from the mechanics of probing a particle by another particle, to the psychology of “observing” consciously.  

    Uncertainty of particle measurement has nothing to do with conscious observation, but rather, with mechanically probing, as if we have to throw billiard balls at the billiard ball under test in order to try to measure the position and vector of the billiard ball under test.  

    Our results are somewhat uncertain not at all due to conscious observing, but because we have to hurl billiard balls at the billiard ball under test and of course that throws off and introduces a range of uncertainty.
    Group: egodeath Message: 7399 From: egodeath Date: 19/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Photos of tree vs snake diagrams and paintings

    The esoteric image of the king in the tree from an art book:

    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/2045228115?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

     

    The morning I figured out the Staff of Asclepius, I gave this Post-It Note to a barista and explained it:

    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/197549591?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

     

     

    The Jason and the Serpent by Douris

    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/1713548710?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

    of Nov. 29, 2013 tree vs. snake breakthrough

     

    Eve Tempted by the Serpent (in Campbell’s Moyers book – only half the diptych, only in b&w) of Nov. 29, 2013 tree vs. snake breakthrough which deepened the Nov. 23, 2011 breakthrough in terms now of Possibilism vs. Eternalism:

    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/1808473364?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

     

    My blackboard lecture after Nov. 2013 on tree vs. snake:

    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/1925741776?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/1328614799?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

     

     

    My corroboration of Ruck/Heinrich’s explanation of Golden Apples = Amanita: shiny metallic dried Amanita

    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/132932324?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

               

    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/132932324?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/35173609?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

     

     

    One of my best Amanita photos: rain ripples in Holy Grail pair:

    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/230497932?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

     

     

    A version (not ink-brush) of ~1995 intuitive drawing of snake = worldline, prior to my study of decoding mythology starting ~2001 or my snake = worldline explicit hypothesis of ~2003:

    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/1134546579?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

     

    Here’s the ink brush ~1995 version, the Liberte! snake in block universe “Le Univ. Bloc”

    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/998128943?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

     

    Nearby are photos of my 1986-1988 notebook and printouts sample pages.

     

    — Michael Hoffman, December 19, 2015, copyrighted photos.

    Group: egodeath Message: 7400 From: egodeath Date: 19/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Understand it’s a world of outsiders
    LOL old Hanegraaff, you are like shooting fish in a barrell: eat your web page:

    http://www.esoteric.msu.edu/Hanegraaff.html

    “scholars of western esotericism are forced to explain that … those who wish to study subjects such as … altered states of consciousness should turn to other disciplines (such as … transpersonal psychology).”

    Without entheogens, there is no Western esotericism. Western esotericism comes from psilocybin.

    Know your history, outsider noninitiate Hanegraaff. You have no excuse. Don’t hide behind historicism. History of psilocybin in our history, if you claim to tell other people to study history.

    Start following your own advice. Set an example of revealing our history. If your masters permit it.

    It doesn’t make great sense to send people to Transpersonal Psychology, a field that is in denial of its psychedelic basis, source, origin, and traditional foundation, just like the late-modern-era pretense of covering-over Western esotericism, to read about altered states.

    There is a contest of cluelessness, of cowtowing to Prohibition censorship and concealment: who can more deny and cover-up the entheogen source of initiation: fake “Western Esotericism” or fake “Transpersonal Psychology”?

    — Michael, the theorist of Egodeath
    Group: egodeath Message: 7401 From: egodeath Date: 20/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Understand it’s a world of outsiders
    Hanegraaff is a transformed more-than-man: he did eat his web page. He is singing a different key now.

    “Alterations of Consciousness and Western Esotericism

    This long-term project investigates the textual and empirical evidence for so-called “alterations of consciousness” as a crucial but underestimated dimension of Western esotericism. With origins in early-20th century approaches to the study of religion such as that of William James, the concept of “Altered States of Consciousness” (ASCs) was coined by Charles Tart in the late 1960s and re-conceptualized as “Alterations of Consciousness” by Imants Barušs 2003. This research project focuses on the textual evidence for alterations of consciousness in contexts such as e.g. the Platonic notion of “frenzy” (mania) and its reception in Christian contexts; the notion of gnosis as noetic experience in gnostic, hermetic and related contexts; religious practices such as e.g. theurgy; visionary trance phenomena reported from contexts such as Christian theosophy and related forms of “enthusiastic” religion; practical techniques for altering consciousness in the wake of Mesmerism and Somnambulism; or the use of psychoactive substances for altering consciousness in esoteric and occultist contexts since the 19th century to the present. While the emphasis will be on analyzing textual sources, the research will also include empirical research into contemporary practices of altering consciousness in esoteric contexts, such as e.g. Channeling and Neo-shamanism. These materials will be analyzed through a multidisciplinary perspective informed by modern cognitive studies and consciousness research.”

    http://www.amsterdamhermetica.nl/research/individual-research-projects/wouter-hanegraaff-research/
    Group: egodeath Message: 7402 From: egodeath Date: 20/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Understand it’s a world of outsiders
    According to old Hanegraaff’s thinking, my thinking is an impossibility; in his matrix of possibilities, he has no slot for a rational modern explicit direct compact scientific psychedelics-based, loose cognitive science theory of what is revealed in esotericism, in the esoteric state of consciousness.

    He has been taken by surprise. He was not optimistic enough. I have broken the code and it turns out not excessively difficult.

    You have to be an inspired genius to crack the code so essentially simple and straightforward as religious metaphor for the Egodeath theory; the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence; Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism.

    Hanegraaff was not at all prepared for the possibility and eventuality that someone coming purely from the modern era cognitive technology would successfully break the code and decipher what had to have been a fundamentally simple insight, that everyone universally has stumbled upon, that the solution to bridging the two cultures (STEM vs. the Humanities) must be something that escapes the mind in the ordinary state (tight cognitive binding) but which is distinctly accessible as a simple recognized conclusion and arrangement by everybody in the proper, appropriate loose cognitive binding state, which turns out to be perfectly rational, surprisingly straightforward and rather simple, by changing our way we divide, set up supposedly opposing categories.

    We assume that religion is opposite of rationality, but actually when you clean up your rationality and recognize religion as analogy, the false barrier collapses, and the cleanest simplest purest rational thinking is none other than what is described (but in analogy) in religion, in such a way as to be universally recognizable by everybody in any culture who also has their thinking shaped and corrected by the loose cognitive binding state.

    This is basic Science.
    Which is basic Religion.
    Which is basic esoteric universal perennial revelation.
    Which is basic history of esotericism.

    He has no conceptual category for my kind of theory, which is the one which at last unifies the two cultures, the awaited way people have been wondering “How can we reconcile Science and Religion?”

    A better kind of Science, a better kind of Religion that evades every kind of preconception criticism Hanegraaff was capable of thinking of.

    I broke the aptitude testing system when I underwent aptitude testing.

    Similarly, my Egodeath theory lays waste to Hanegraaff’s categories of “religionists” vs. “esotericism historians” vs. “perrenialists”.

    When Science is done properly, which is in the loose cognitive binding state, rationality discovers thoroughgoing experiential realization of no-free-will, which is the foundation of religion, religious mythology, which is identically based in the loose cognitive state from psilocybin.

    Loose cognitive science is loose cognitive religion.

    Science done properly on the foundation of psilocybin is Religion done properly on the foundation of psilocybin, and this is the key essence of the universal interplanetary perennial philosophy of all time.

    A correct scientist is a correct religionist is a perennial philosopher is a historian of Western and universal esotericism.

    The Egodeath theory utterly demolishes Hanegraaff’s false, clueless-academic system of distinctions, divisions, conceptual categories between these different kinds of approaches.

    Hanegraaff has categories listed in his old webpage of Error,
    http://www.esoteric.msu.edu/Hanegraaff.html
    categories which fail to include my combination, my kind of theory, a theory which comes from Engineering even better than from Science (Physics), the latter which has jumped the shark due to Weimar Copenhagenism having hypnotized and corrupted and enfeebled the American mind.

    — Michael the impossibility: the rational theorist of what is revealed in the Esotericism altered state of consciousness
    Group: egodeath Message: 7403 From: egodeath Date: 20/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Understand it’s a world of outsiders
    Correction/clarification of what Hanegraaff wrote: he meant 19th century *BC*:

    “the use of psychoactive substances for altering consciousness in esoteric and occultist contexts since the 19th century [BC — mh] to the present.”
    Group: egodeath Message: 7404 From: egodeath Date: 20/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Understand it’s a world of outsiders
    Hanegraaff, refrain from asserting falsehoods.

    Talk about the mushrooms throughout religious art history, or stay silent, but for the love of God, spare us the John Pilch Eliade bullshit that entheogens are a recent degenerate practice and that the shaman esotericists of old used the traditional method of blocking a nostril or some bullshit that contradicts the thousands of mushrooms throughout religious art history, and countless psilocybin ‘mixed wine’ mentions dead at the heart of Antiquity.

    Which side of the Force are you on?

    NO MORE BULLSHIT!!

    Are you going to deliver us truth by delivering us more entheogen-whitewashing bullshit? We are already drowning in it. For Christ’s sake, spare us! Stop playing to the censorious Prohibition Press.

    How about a little truth for a change? Esotericism is Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism. We already have a surfeit of entheogen-diminishment fallacies (which see), thank you very much. We don’t need any more pretense.

    — Cybermonk
    Group: egodeath Message: 7405 From: egodeath Date: 20/12/2015
    Subject: Against neuroscience
    Reading _The Cognitive Science of Science_ it strikes me the seeming phoniness, the affected, superficial artifice of talking in terms of “neural networks”, when equivalently you should do as I have done since 1987 and talk in terms of mental construct processing.

    I am a pure cognitive scientist: my Egodeath theory (the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence) is constructed exclusively in terms of the cognitive realm of explanation.

    When I put away the bound, cramped, blank books around April 1987 and switched to ruled binder sheets and full use of acronyms, I also created the idea of ‘mental constructs’ and ‘mental construct processing’ as universal all-purpose experienced constructs that can have any kind of interconnection; dynamic mental construct relationship matrixes.

    MCP
    MCs
    DCRMs
    DMCRMs

    Principle of equivalence: anything in modelling conceptual change and theory revision that Paul Thagard can accomplish using the affected jargon of “neurons”, I could accomplish just as well or better in 1987 using my terminology of ‘mental construct processing’.

    Anywhere in his writing where he writes “neuron”, the reader should strike out and write instead “mental construct”.

    When he pretends to talk about neural networks, he’s really talking about my dynamic mental construct relationship matrixes.

    — Michael Hoffman
    Group: egodeath Message: 7407 From: egodeath Date: 20/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Understand it’s a world of outsiders
    Wouter, write 100 times on the chalkboard:
    Alterations of consciousness is a crucial but underestimated dimension of Western esotericism.

    http://www.amsterdamhermetica.nl/research/individual-research-projects/wouter-hanegraaff-research/

    “investigates the … empirical evidence for … alterations of consciousness … informed by … cognitive studies and consciousness research.”

    We will be looking for you at the next psychedelic rave warehouse party.

    For empirical evidence follow cognitive psychologist Benny Shanon in DMT.

    You wrote:
    “the concept of “Altered States of Consciousness” … was … re-conceptualized as “Alterations of Consciousness” by Imants Barušs 2003.”

    We will inspect Baruss’ moves for the usual bullshit just-so story of:


    Psychedelics are the new decadent way of simulating the traditional esoteric methods of alterations of consciousness such as blocking a nostril, dancing, drumming, sitting in a cave, whatever we can dream up but (our real dissimulation point and purpose is) “Anything but drugs!”

    We shall go into a manic frenzy of invention of fabricated narratives of any alien psychology and any made-up “traditional method of the mystics”; the proposed methods are irrelevant and only serve as a decoy, a stage magician’s misdirection of attention, just so long as we can substitute anything and everything to pave-over the truth, which is that psilocybin is the traditional method of the mystics.


    You aren’t going to recycle that fabricated just-so story that is designed to appease the Creator’s delusion enforcement automatons, are you? We are so tired of hearing that rubbish!

    You wrote: “This research project focuses on the textual evidence for alterations of consciousness in contexts such as … the use of psychoactive substances for altering consciousness in esoteric and occultist contexts since the 19th century [ie BC — mh] to the present.”

    “the research will also include empirical research into contemporary practices of altering consciousness in esoteric contexts, such as e.g. Channeling [like your point in your keynote speech article “Entheogenic Esotericism” that New Age channeling was actually a *cover* story for writing “while tripping on acid” — don’t contradict yourself, be consistent, tell a consistent story narrative tale -mh] and Neo-shamanism.”

    “These materials will be analyzed through a multidisciplinary perspective informed by modern cognitive studies and consciousness research.”

    A safer term is ‘interdisciplinary’: in practice, due to the hyper-separation of disciplines, ‘multidisciplinary’ merely means summing one cliched, limited, isolated discipline, plus the limited isolated approach of another discipline.

    ‘Interdisciplinary’ means having mentality from the separate isolated disciplines critique the input from within the other isolated disciplines, so it is a step closer to, instead of only differentiating approaches, also integrating approaches, breaking down the barriers that hyper-separate the disciplines.

    I am a representative of entheogen scholars’ historical scholarship, especially premodern Esotericism based on Psilocybin: we don’t need more bullshit; write something that is of use to entheogen scholars for a change!

    Andy Letcher in the book Shrooms (published by Prohibition Press, Inc.), annhilates all mushroom evidence by a magic trick of pretzel logic straight out of the playbook from CIA agent and bankster propagandist R. Gordon Wasson:

    Observe the magic trick to exorcise the thousands of mushrooms out of the evidence base:

    Thus argueth Letcher:


    Entheogen scholars say that the secret basis of religion is mushrooms.

    Here is a mushroom openly depicted on a church door.

    Given that mushrooms were covert and this mushroom is openly depicted, therefore this mushroom must not be a mushroom.

    Therefore, there is no mushroom on this door.

    This one mushroom serves as a proxy for all mushrooms or rather, mysterious mushroom-shaped objects, in religious art.

    So, we have no evidence for mushrooms in religious history.

    QED.


    Write something that is of use to entheogen scholars, for a change! Explicitly and honestly without dissimulation; stop the dissimulation, stop the pretense, stop the censorship, remove the mental shackles, stop hiding and concealing, denying and covering-over.

    Stop encoding, encrypting, censoring, and mis-leading.

    Instead, gather the evidence and put it forth explicitly, directly, simply, plainly, and openly, without spin, without distortion. Obey critical discourse analysis.

    Your job is to reveal, not to conceal. Knock it off with the phony scholarship that serves to hide and distort.

    We will subject you to critical discourse analysis, to see how you are biased and spewing forth apologetics instead of scholarship.

    What’s it going to be: are you going to be just another Prohibition apologist?

    Who are you trying to appease — Nixon’s war on drugs? or truth, following the evidence?

    You academic scholars have let us down and disappointed us. You have betrayed us, except for your own mushroom book cover.

    You have proved to be dissimulators, apologists, propagandists with zero credibility.

    You need to restore our ability to respect you as an honest scholar producing sound, useful research towards comprehension of the riddle of religious mythology, as I have done.

    You must understand how we are feeling now about academic scholars, who are working under the boot-heel of The System, the Establishment pseudo-scholarship, which is more apologetics than research.

    We entheogen scholars are angry at The System and people going along with the system, scholars more intent on writing what their masters force them to write, than writing plain truth.

    You are in the defensive position here. Prove to us that you can produce real scholarship, and not just Prohibition-compliant bullshit.

    Remember what you wrote, that altered states have been neglected and *underestimated*!

    Remember that you were *wrong*, you *all* were *wrong*, you were all very wrong.

    That’s what you wrote yourself.

    Now given the fact that you all were very wrong, which is what you yourself wrote, keep in mind that you guys don’t know what you’re talking about — so forget preconceptions!

    You wrote that you guys were laboring under false preconceptions — so are you going to continue with those preconceptions?

    Rather you need to be agnostic, and *start* opening your eyes and *start* investigating the evidence, without prejudice and preconceptions.

    You yourself wrote that you guys *don’t* know, that you were laboring under false assumptions, blind to censorship, “naive”, blind to Prohibition’s forced whitewashing, blind to the psychedelic basis of the New Age, and that you were dead wrong and naive.

    You are going to *begin* investigating now, *begin* asking the questions; so don’t start with heavy fixed preconceptions and pre-judgments about the extent:

    To what extent were visionary plants used throughout our religious and cultural history in Western and global history?

    That is the Michael Hoffman question. Answer it. Investigate it without pre-judgment and preconception, except loosely tentatively held.

    Do not begin with the dogmatic axiom cast in stone that visionary plants are deviant and minor in our history.

    We tried that tale, that axiom, and ended up in bafflement and incomprehension of those mysterious alien thinkers before us.

    We failed to solve the riddle of religious mythology and metaphor analogy, as long as we were dogmatically adhering to that pre-judged, premature commitment to that axiom.

    Keep that in mind: you were dead wrong; so what basis do you have for preconceptions and biases against {Psilocybin Is Western Esotericism}?

    I suggest you bow down and serve the master of Evidence, not any longer bow down to impeached head archon Nixon and his phony, fraudulent, predatory war on drugs, which is Prohibition-for-Profit, which is leading all the academics by their noses, pathetic slaves spewing propaganda to serve their master, impeached President Nixon and the subservient archons he leads along in chains in his triumphal procession.

    Is that you there I see in his parade of victims in chains, wearing Nixon’s mental shackles?

    We entheogen scholars consider you guilty until you prove yourself to us, that you are a real scholar, not a fraud, not just another dissimulator.

    — Michael the Archangel
    Group: egodeath Message: 7408 From: egodeath Date: 20/12/2015
    Subject: Reposts: later = better
    Generally, usually, I post a flawed posting, followed by a repost that is corrected and expanded.

    Sometimes, often, Yahoo Groups has a 12-hour delay which could mess up the sequence. I have zero patience for this delay, so if a posting does not appear on the web immediately, screw it: I just repost it, and it almost always appears then, and then 12 hours later, the original posting appears. Too bad.
    Group: egodeath Message: 7409 From: egodeath Date: 20/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Reposts: later = better
    In most cases, see the web to see the authoritative posting. I usually delete the early, flawed version of the posting from the web view of the Egodeath Yahoo group.
    Group: egodeath Message: 7410 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Bk: Entheologues interviews, Martin Ball
    My Amazon review

    Entheologues: Conversations with Leading Psychedelic Thinkers, Explorers and Researchers
    Martin Ball (interviewer, transcriber, editor, author)
    http://www.amazon.com/review/R2F0QB33NSFOFS/
    2009

    5 stars

    Efficient readable transcriptions of well-informed podcast interviews

    Each chapter is a transcription of a podcast interview. In the interviews, Martin Ball asks good questions. He has read the writings of the people he interviews. He is well-informed.

    Martin Ball is a good writer and a good interviewer. The interview format works well, because it is for a general entheogen-informed audience, and Ball edited the results. Definitely recommended. I found every page and chapter interesting even though I’m becoming more narrowly focused and particular in what I read. I’m not easy to please; other books I ordered, on mysticism, I felt I got nothing out of.

    This was an ideal efficient format for me to catch up on basically summaries of authors’ books.

    The final chapter is not an interview but is thoughts on cognitive freedom, human rights, and religious freedom by Martin Ball based on the interviews. You can probably sample some of the podcasts online. This printed, edited format worked well.

    — Michael Hoffman, the theorist of Egodeath and the decoder of religious mythology as Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism
    Group: egodeath Message: 7412 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
    Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
    Typofix a ternal eternal

    This thread is serious, not a joke.

    You can present this religion to the gate guard to pass.

    This is the ALL ACCESS PASS to the backstage insiders’ wedding banquet party that controller X brings those on the inside into.

    In Christ,
    — Michael
    Group: egodeath Message: 7413 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
    Subject: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
    The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath

    I hereby define a new religion, a denomination of Christianity, but based in the Engineering Department and STEM of 1985-2015, the Bible Church of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath, which requires cognitive looseners, which are recognized as the original traditional and ongoing use of Psilocybin and equivalent throughout our white Western Christian European Mediterranean antiquity history, of our own practice, abundantly evidenced by mushrooms throughout Christian art, and by other visionary plants throughout Western religious and esoteric history, corroborated by overwhelming evidence of all kinds throughout all religions around the world throughout history as revealed by in the engine [entheogen] scholarship.

    The source and ongoing inspiration of religion (particularly Christianity) is and always has been religious experiencing triggered by loose cognitive binding triggered by Psilocybin or equivalent.

    The required method of salvation in this denomination of Christianity is cybernetic self-control seizure and reset proving the ability to be stable once the mind has constructed and learned the Eternalism mental model such as Einstein’s and Parmenides’ block universe, which is the iron-block universe which William James initially rejected but progressively conceded.

    Sam Harris is correct that there is no free will, that that is an illusion, and his view when fully developed matches religious mythology properly interpreted as analogy, Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism.

    This Christian denomination is based on the scientific discovery of the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence as realized in a religious experience in a new dispensation of Christian revelation of the Holy Spirit in the computer lab of a California university by the visionary Christian and Jewish prophet Michael Hoffman, who came up through the Church of Christ denomination as well as Jewish upbringing and Christian culture of late 20th-Century California within radio distance of San Francisco.

    The 1988 new dispensation of revelation was the recognition that timeless block universe “determinism” (that is, heimarmene) implies ego transcendence far more absolutely than unity meditation as conceived by Transpersonal Psychology around 1988.

    The prophetic dogma of this Christian denomination is that to be saved, to be a member of this religion, one must experience the entheogen-induced (such as Psilocybin, recognized as the main tradition of Mediterranean antiquity and Christian history) intense loose cognitive state, which properly leads to testing self-control to demonstrate self-control seizure, and form a transformed fully mature and developed mental model that can endure this strain such as to pass through the guarded gateway into the realm inside the cybernetic stability area, proving that the mind has developed sturdy, transcendent, stable thinking that is cognizant of the mind’s control-thoughts being controlled by the hidden uncontrollable controller X, which is the God of the Bible, who is the Creator of all control thoughts frozen in time and pre-existently given to everyone.

    We believe and recognize that ingesting the entheogen Eucharist is forced upon us by the Holy Spirit and Christ, that this is how He brings us to knowledge of Him, controller X; He makes us ingest and has predestined us to ingest the entheogenic Eucharist of his flesh and blood through which we are saved and washed clean.

    The dogma of this Christian, Bible-based (Old Testament & New Testament) denomination is:
    100% Metaphorical 100% Entheogenic 100% Eternalism;
    0% Literalist 0% Ordinary State of Consciousness 0% Possibilism;
    the 100% Entheogen Theory of Religion and Culture;
    the 100% Ahistoricity Theory of Ancient Religious Founder Figures & writers;
    the 100% Eternalism Theory of Mental Transformation.

    This Christian denomination recognizes Greek mythology as analogy describing Psilocybin mixed-wine experiencing and mental transformation from Possibilism to the Eternalism mental model of time, self, and control.

    The music for worship liturgy in the Christian Bible-based denomination of cybernetic transcendence (Cybernetic Egodeath) includes Rock and Metal lyrics which describe Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism. Instrumentation includes seven-string electric guitar through Audion tube amplifiers, fully volume-controlled to protect the ability to hear the Word.


    Images are permitted such as snake on a pole and study of global mythology is integrated to maximize understanding of Jewish and Christian and other mythemes recognized as referring to Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism.

    Writings in this denomination are on the World Wide Web: public, clear, simple, summarizable, scientific, straightforward, and direct; they are summaries of the Egodeath theory per 1988, 1997, 2006, & 2015 by the Jewish Christian prophet Michael Hoffman.

    Each person has a direct relationship to the creator not mediated through anyone else’s authority.

    This denomination rejects the Catholic claims for authority and rejects protestant subsequent claims as variants of Catholic authoritarianism.

    Heaven and hell are recognized as metaphorical.

    Entheogens such as traditional psilocybin are the Christian biblical traditional original sacred meal by which we are gradually transformed and developed to psychological perfection and completion to be acceptable to God so that we are permitted to go in and out of the self-control seizure guarded gate of Heaven as prophecied in the book of Revelation.

    By ingesting this flesh of Christ we are made sinless, purified, non-dying, given eternal life and forgiveness of sin and the cessation of alienation from the Creator of all control-thoughts, God, of the Bible.

    Experiencing and comprehending Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism is the way that we are saved, through correct experiencing and understanding of the Bible and insiders’ Christianity, for those on the inside.

    This is true Christianity, which is esoteric religion fully developed and fully comprehended according to scientific rationality, which is simply clear and explicit highly organized thinking, which is the true Christian religion.

    This denomination is a form of primitive New Testament Christian restorationism.

    We affirm the sacred text “Entheogenic Spirituality as a Human Right” by Martin Ball, including The Universal Declaration of the Human Right to Direct Spiritual Experience.

    — Michael the Archangel;
    Michael Hoffman BSEE Eta Kappa Nu;
    Cybermonk;
    Professor Loosecog, PhD in Transcendent Knowledge, University of Egodeath.

    In Christ’s name we pray for control stability, unharmed, with fully satisfactory and sufficiently developed durable knowledge of the Cybernetic Truth for ourselves and our children.

    God of the Bible, give us strength to go in and out through the guarded gate of self-control seizure, retaining cybernetic self-control stability so that we may banquet at your mushroom table and rest in knowledge and enjoyment of mature completed truth.
    Group: egodeath Message: 7415 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
    Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
    I don’t think I’m planning on formalizing or further formalizing the Christian cybernetic Eagle death religion denomination

    I don’t feel that formalizing further is the right direction

    I feel so far satisfied with the sufficient completeness of the definition in the initial posting

    I feel that the underlying theory itself is sufficiently systematic

    it could be nice to formalize but I don’t trust the implications of formalizing it

    I think more formalizing it feels harmful

    I feel like it starts a strenuous project

    but I do emphasize that the theory in itself is extremely summarize a bowl and formalize a bowl being scientific and rational

    basically any standard that you can think of to formalize and systematize, this is the theory the only theory that is able to meet any of those criteria

    but I do not want to imply that delivering such a systematic presentation is somehow required

    for me all the emphasis needs to go that this theory is capable of being formally summarized m

    and likewise the founding charter of this religion denomination could be formalized

    but I am apprehensive because once you head down that direction you get wrapped around the wheel you get caught into a potential he endless project and you head towards credo Lizum creed based religion a dangerous risk of waste of energy and has pros and cons

    formalizing the religion charter has pros and cons and I think that the easy lazy thing to do for now is let its inherent systematic character suffice and stay with a simple intuitive off-the-cuff informal charter

    it it feels right to me

    although I insist that this theory is scientific and summarize a bowl can be formalized

    it lends itself better than any other theory to be formalized but instinctively intuitively I feel that the right approach is to keep it no more formal and the initial post charter definition of this religion denomination of Christianity.

    Formalizing it is simply not necessary and it can risk being more of a futile distraction, a source of endless futile disputations

    that is a big seam [theme] in the Church of Christ is to reject creeds and don’t put faith in systematic theology

    I insist and maintain that there is only one clear coherent consistent theory of religion and that is Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism; the Egodeath theory.

    I lately favor an intuitive artistic casual but true and rock solid expository form rather than now presenting or requiring a compact systematic theology or a compact systematic denomination charter.

    Clarity yes coherence yes but formalization not so much

    I feel like there are two extreme options: either the simple casual option which I have done by posting the charter informally, or the other extreme an extreme formal extreme systematic presentation, which is not necessary and it is more an academic exercise.

    So far I feel that the initial charter posting is not only adequate but it feels complete; it feels like it it is what it needs to be

    I am very pleased and I think I will be very pleased with that posting. reflecting so far for a few minutes, I think that this charter religion definition is really a huge milestone I suppose.

    — Siri oracle of Michael
    Group: egodeath Message: 7416 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
    Decoding {authority, correctional, test, judge, standard of judgment}

    Hypothesis coming Into view: authority: to punish equals bundle of rods, the Roman fasces equals scourge equals whip as in the furies hold the whip of mania which is correctional

    this connects to the idea of the flames as correctional, fire as correcting

    what is authoritative is that which corrects wrong thinking

    he who has authority equals having correct thinking which corrects incorrect thinking

    For a year or so I have been wondering about the concept {authority}

    drug-free meditation lacks authority: it has not been corrected by the true Authority, which is visionary plants

    When drug free meditation advocates argue against visionary plants advocates, where can we look to adjudicate?

    Where can we look given that monks are liars given that priests and meditation leaders are liars and not trustworthy at all?

    where can we look

    the drug free meditation advocates point to their guru their religious leader as the authority and say well according to our authority drug-free meditation is righteous

    against that, the visionary plants advocates have a different authority: they put forth a different authority and they say well if your thinking is so mature, let’s see you deal with DMT

    in fact there’s this whole guy who seems to be the center of this very issue, he is a supposedly advanced meditator all enlightened and stuff but DMT broke his confidence.

    if he’s all sophisticated super meditator how come DMT somehow broke him or defeated him?

    Entheologues page 23 his name is Robert Augustus Masters. DMT filled him with terror.
    so why is this supposedly mature advance meditator subject to terror from DMT?


    So there it’s evident that here is a somewhere here there’s a great argument a compelling argument that:

    the visionary plant meditator is more capable, he is a superset of the capabilities of someone who only does drug-free meditation

    The visionary plant meditator is more enlightened is more durable and has a superset of the capabilities of someone who is a drug-free meditator

    this proves that visionary plants are superior and produce more enlightenment and true complete enlightenment compared to drug free meditation

    where can we find a standard of judgment where can we find a standard of assessing whether someone’s thinking is correct the answer is visionary plants put the thinking under trial judge it according to the authorities standard set by visionary plants

    Meditating without drugs corrects the mind less than meditating with visionary plants

    visionary plants quickly cause/force/drive the full transformation of mental thinking mental model about control

    whereas drug free meditation only slightly and slowly transforms and corrects the thinking and slowly weakly drives thinking towards transformation

    Visionary plants carry more authority than drug free meditation because they subject the mind and the self control model to greater stress greater testing

    ones thinking in drug free meditation is not tested; that approach fails to put thinking to the test

    drug-free meditation fails to test thinking and fails to put thinking on trial in a real world endurance test for durability

    drug free meditation fails to stress test thinking

    visionary plants are the authority of maximal stress testing of thinking


    If you’re going to release code that you have programmed, you need to test it before you release that code

    the code here is the human personal operating system system of personal self control

    if you failed to test that code, you’re going to put out buggy code

    so how can you effectively and thoroughly test code

    like when you’re designing a medical instrument you need to do extreme testing

    but drug free meditation fails to do extreme testing of the personal self control operating system

    whereas visionary plants are a superset of drug free meditation

    any way that you can test thinking in drug free meditation you can test much more so in visionary plant meditation

    therefore drug free meditation is not the authority but visionary plant meditation is the authority, because it puts all the stresses on thinking that drug free meditation does but also goes beyond that and puts much more additional stress and strain to test much more in a much broader way personal self control thinking

    so therefore drug free meditation is definitely not the authority whereas vision visionary plants are the authority

    they will whip scourge and correct, not so much punish, but rather correctional correcting of thinking

    If your mental model can endure the test of visionary plants then your thinking is in conformity with the authority of visionary plants otherwise your thinking will be corrected and scourged and whipped to put it in line with the divine transcendent authority which God conveys to us through testing/correcting/scourging us with visionary plants

    Thus king Jesus on his way to crucifixion is scorched [scourged] and corrected equivalent to purgatory as correctional, correcting your incorrect mental model about control

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7417 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
    Deciphered: {ordeal test trial} refers to using visionary plants to test and correct and force the transformation of one’s mental world model about control

    The previous post is the solution to page 229 in _in the engines and the development of culture_ by John rush, the chapter written by Alan piper

    so as soon as I glanced at page 229 in the middle about the fasces, combined with my previous writing about the Villa of the mysteries — search for the word whip and scourge in my postings — as fast as I could read, it came to me and was confirmed as fast as I could read and type that

    what came to me was further confirmation and further explanatory power becoming evident as I read more in different mythology traditions, here Zoroastrianism, and I find the same themes and I find this author Alan piper wondering about these themes of ordeal testing trial by fire while he’s writing about visionary plants

    and I have explained it; so:

    Deciphered: {ordeal test trial} refers to using visionary plants to test and correct and force the transformation of one’s mental world model about control

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7418 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
    Re: {ordeal, trial, test}
    Rush book page 332 Mike Jay re DMT “submit themselves to a life-changing ordeal that offered a glimpse of the eternal world beyond the human”
    Group: egodeath Message: 7419 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
    Re: {authenticate, authentic} “Aeneas … authenticating the divine legitimacy of his patron Caesar Augustus”

    Drug-free meditation is put on trial and found untrue, it is found to be illegitimate, it fails the authenticity test, it fails to be authenticated

    Visionary plants authenticate the mental model which is capable of enduring the ordeal of visionary plants

    we can prove that drug free meditation is inauthentic because it fails the test of authenticity which is testing by trial of visionary plants

    That which is authentic is authenticated by its ability to endure the stress test of visionary plants

    that which is inauthentic is proved to be false, it is proved to fail to be what it should be, it fails to be what it ought to be

    thus it is false as evidenced by failing the test of whether it can endure the test for authenticity witches visionary plants

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7420 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
    Mytheme: mocking false authorities, mocking initiates, mocking Jesus in the Passion. False authority collapses under the light of loosecog testing; it cannot bear and endure testing the spirits.

    Integral Theory (which is based on unity meditation without visionary plants) fails the test of authenticity, it cannot bear authentication, it fails authentication. It is inadequate, thus it is false insofar as it poses as adequate.

    It is missing huge crucial content at the core. It cannot pass through the guarded gate; you will be cast out into the darkness outside with wailing and gnashing of teeth.

    Add Alan Watts as developed in the Egodeath theory as the core of Integral Theory, then adequate.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7421 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
    You might say “ok, Integral Theory is lacking the essential core, like a car without an engine, but still it is a good useful sprawling theory that as soon as you pop in the engine and then it becomes a useful drivable car or airplane.”

    Integral Theory: just add the Watts/Hoffman Egodeath core, and it’s a useful theory!

    But this shows that the key important component is not the Integral Theory, but rather, the core cybernetic theory. Yes the Egodeath theory fits as the engine into the chassis of Integral Theory, but Integral Theory is so corrected and modified and mitigated, that the Egodeath theory dominates Integral Theory.

    What you end up with, after you start with Integral Theory and then remove Wilber’s false core of nondrug unity meditation and install the Egodeath theory as the true core, doesn’t look quite like Integral Theory as defined and conceptualized by Wilber.

    The old paradigm is Integral Theory with core of nondrug unity meditation.

    Wilber is a form of the old paradigm — the old paradigm is Literalist OSC Possibilism.

    The new paradigm which overthrows the old is the Egodeath theory, which salvages and reworks elements from the old paradigm per Thagard. The new paradigm is Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism, per the Egodeath theory.

    Notice the conflict within the old paradigm between no-free-will Advaita per Ramesh Balsekar vs. the shocked and appalled newage Integral Theory community. The Egodeath theory reworks and fully develops Balsekar’s no-free-will meditation per Entheogenic Eternalism.

    If you have the core cybernetic theory (the Egodeath theory from Watts/Hoffman), then all of the Integral Theory (Wilber) naturally follows from that easily.

    This shows that the essential thing, the important thing, the key thing is not the Integral Theory, but rather the core, entheogen Eternalism Cybernetics theory.

    The engine of the car is what is important first of all, not the body of the car. Insert the entheogen in the engine to drive transformation into the new model of automotive power across a series of trips.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7422 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
    Announcing a new observation technology: the modern cyberscope, which reveals and enables perceiving, observing, testing, and probing personal self-control power across time.

    The Egodeath theory comes packaged with its own new observational technology invented in modern ergonomic form by Michael Hoffman BSEE: presenting the Cyberscope.

    Put aside the old authorities (Ken Wilber with his inarticulate non-drug unity meditation), and look through my new cyberscope to observe and probe and test self-control power specifically and scientifically.

    Observe that enlightenment revolves around Cybernetics, not Unity!

    This is the modern scientific rational Enlightenment based on the new authority of observation not the old authorities.

    Pop open the hood and put entheogens in the engine and observe the source of control thoughts and inability to steer away from the crash sitting on the track ahead.

    Candidate for acronym, as a key concept label:

    nondrug unity meditation
    Vs.
    Entheogenic Cybernetics observation/ testing/ probing/ experimentation

    NUM
    vs
    ECT

    Keyboard shortcut demonstration:

    The old paradigm, which I am overthrowing, is non-drug unity meditation.

    The new paradigm, which I bring, is entheogen-based cybernetics testing.

    This is Science because it is based on a specific observation of conducting tests, putting on trial, pulling on the strings to test control.

    In the article Eye to Eye, Ken Wilber claims that meditation is observation among the community of scientific observers, but the problem there is that his non-drug unity meditation is weak at testing self-control, which is the key essential driver forcing mental model transformation to produce enlightenment.

    Wilber’s version of observation is ineffective at observing what needs to be observed. The Egodeath theory brings the relevant effective cyberscopic tool: I have engineered a new observtion technology, the Cyberscope.

    Enlightenment is primarily about personal control power, per the Egodeath theory (Watts/Hoffman), not unity (Wilber).

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7423 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
    Enlightenment is primarily about personal control power, per the Egodeath theory (Watts/ Peart/ Daisley/ Balsekar/ Harris/ Hoffman), not unity (Wilber).
    Group: egodeath Message: 7424 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
    Similarly notice the conflict within Protestantism between hyper-Calvinism Reformed theology (God is the author of evil; no-free-will) vs. shocked and appalled evangelical Dave Hunt (What Love Is This?).

    I have pointed out that both camps are literalist about heaven and hell, though more recently, hell has been deleted (not to say that any of these outsiders comprehend metaphoricity per Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism).

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7425 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
    Subject: Satyr, goat
    Ancients fed sacrificial animals psychoactives and then consumed their flesh and milk. Entheogens by Rush (editor). Goats be trippin. Samorini.

    I’m ready to assert, maybe Rush did, that stiff E = trip N like my decoding that {pinecone opened when dried} = {maenad unbound hair}.

    = loose cog or inebriated state

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7426 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
    Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
    The Egodeath theory is an explanatory scientific theory, not a religion.

    The Bible Church of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath is a religion, a Bible-based denomination of Christianity, a Christian denomination which is based on the Egodeath theory as a revelation of the actual, insiders’ meaning of the Bible.

    A short name is Cyber Church, practicing Cyber Christianity.

    Cyber Christianity is the best Christian denomination.

    Cyber Christianity is the true esoteric revelation of New Testament Christianity. No one is really saved, except in a weak, outsiders’ sense, outside of our denomination.

    We are the real Christians, authorized and authenticated by the divine standard which is the traditional insiders’ Psilocybin flesh of Christ our savior.

    Other religions aren’t authentic, but are mere derivatives of ours, superficial and misguided imitators.

    — Michael
    Group: egodeath Message: 7430 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
    Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
    It is our right to have direct religious experience through traditional visionary plants such as Psilocybin mushrooms and through modern chemicals such as LSD as individuals without membership in some institutionalized incorporated brand of religion.

    Our religious right to individual use of entheogens ultimately includes testing and observing limitations on self-control power, to transform the mental model of self, time, and control.

    Traditional safety is by praying and progressive development and sharing as supportive group.

    — Michael
    Group: egodeath Message: 7431 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
    Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
    The Universal Declaration of the Human Right to Direct Spiritual Experience

    http://realitysandwich.com/9639/entheogenic_spirituality_human_right/

    “The universal human right to direct spiritual experience provides a legal defense for those who would choose to pursue the use of entheogenic agents in their quest to achieve direct spiritual experience. While recognizing that governments have a vested interest in reducing the impact of recreational drug use and abuse within their territories, drug laws, in and of themselves, are not sufficient grounds for barring the legitimate use of entheogenic sacraments for personal spiritual experience.

    The burden of proof for the limiting of any activity that can be construed as the cultivation of direct personal spiritual experience is clearly placed on any regulating body, governmental or otherwise. The universal right to direct spiritual experience will be afforded to all equally without any interference by regulating bodies unless said regulating bodies can demonstrate beyond any doubt that the activities of any individual is in violation of the fundamental human rights of another person or persons. Claiming that an individual’s practice, such as might be the case with the use of entheogens, is against any law, is not sufficient grounds for disallowing the practice. The standard for the burden of proof is to be judged solely on how any given practice violates the rights of others.”
    Group: egodeath Message: 7432 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
    Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
    Drug-free unity meditation is a weak, ineffective, derivative, neutered imitation of the real, original source of religion, meditation, and contemplation, which is entheogen-induced loose cognitive binding during which the mind actively tests and observes the limitations on self-control power, personal control power.

    This entheogen-accessed intensive testing of personal control power drives a change of mental worldmodel from the Possibilism to the Eternalism mental model of time, self, and control.

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    Group: egodeath Message: 7433 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
    Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
    Non-drug unity meditation, go to Hell, where you came from.

    THE MEDITATION BACKLASH

    Non-drug unity meditation was a product of Nixon’s War on Drugs, which was always entirely fraudulent and never had anything to do with protecting people.

    Drug prohibition is and was always entirely a power-play, self-centered, by politicians and demagogues, a cover, a pretense, a bluff, a strategy of suppressing antiwar people and minorities.

    Boycott meditation: it is tainted and corrupted by Prohibition lies.

    Don’t say anything positive about meditation; verbally throw rocks at it to reveal the truth: it is part of The System, the scam, a phony replacement that serves to do away with actual effective entheogen-based meditation.

    I’m not playing along with Meditation Lite and its lies and false promises, wolves in sheep’s clothing. Neither should any entheogen advocate or Eternalist or investigator of religious mythology, or researcher of cybernetics.

    Meditation is recognized as The Enemy just like other institutionalized religion that serves to substitute for and prevent actual religion.

    To Hell with non-drug unity meditation, an enabling, collaborationist part of THE LIE of egoic false reality.

    Down with meditation; down with Prohibition!

    — Cybermonk
    Group: egodeath Message: 7436 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
    Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
    We’re sick and tired of wanking around with all this substitute pseudo-religion, sick of playing along with anti-entheogen pretense. Tired of all these avoidance and suppression techniques.

    We have HAD IT with all this phony academic dishonest *apologetics* for the antidrug status quo.

    Stop parrotting the status quo narrative, an incoherent narrative that totally flies in the face of the abundant plethora of evidence to the contrary.

    Can’t you academics do anything other than posture and put out waffling self-contradictory doubletalk like Richard Evans Schultes’ Golden Book of Denial of Visionary Plants in White Religion?

    Psychoactive plants are THE source of white religion and all religion. Stop trying to suppress that!

    Stop scrambling to outdo each others’ cowtowing compliance to tell some tale, any tale you can dream of as a cover to deny the sensible reality that makes sense, which is the Maximal Entheogen Theory of Religion and Culture.

    The only thing that you have had to present us with so far is head scratching, “We can’t figure it out, it doesn’t make any sense, the ancients had some strange psychology, we just can’t figure it out” — you’re losers! That tale, that narrative is a complete failure!

    On the basis of entheogen suppression, what remains for you to tout is, you have nothing but a bunch of anthropological nonsense, evolutionism dogma: “We are too evolved to be able to figure out the coherent intelligible meaning of religious mythology and those mysterious mushroom-shaped objects.”

    Come on off it, this is ridiculous! What an *embarrassment* academic scholarship is, under this bogus paradigm of entheogen diminishment, suppression, and denial.

    Stop beating around the bush, quit all these avoidance and suppression strategies, and do some actual bona fide scholarly research and theorizing that actually makes sense and is intelligible, for once.

    John Rush and other entheogen scholars have broken away from your Prohibition-compliant simpering academic apologetics serving to direct people away from coherence and truth.

    You are academic Tools of The System, for hire; “Will write for hire, apologetics against drugs in white religion”.

    Give us a reason to pay any attention to academic research. We have given up on you as hopelessly compromised and complicit with Prohibition censorship, mental censorship.

    We have broken off to form an independent basis of theory and data collection not subject to your masters who chain your thinking, the Old Guard.

    We have broken away to form an independent basis of authority, the scientific rational Enlightenment, against you old guard authorities, slaves of Prohibition dogma and taboo.

    — Cybermonk
    Group: egodeath Message: 7437 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
    Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
    This is self-defeating toxic Prohibitionist baloney:

    “While recognizing that governments have a vested interest in reducing the impact of recreational drug use and abuse within their territories,”

    We recognize that Prohibition is a sham, thoroughly fraudulent, nothing but a power play by tyrants, invented by Nixon. Impeach Nixon’s phony WOD and burn his fraudulent “drug schedules”.

    — We The People
    Group: egodeath Message: 7438 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Understand it’s a world of outsiders
    Psilocybin is the long-sought bridge between the two cultures: STEM and the Humanities; reconciling Science and Religion, by revealing Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism.

    American Science purged of Weimar Copenhagenism asserts no-free-will.

    Religious mythology when deciphered, decrypted, and decoded into its Cybernetics referent, asserts no-free-will.

    Science and Religion are corrected and made coherent by psilocybin and are thus each rationalized and then reconciled.

    Psilocybin is the bridge that unifies Science and Religion, through inducing loose cognitive binding and then driving the mind into Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism.

    — Professor Loosecog
    Group: egodeath Message: 7439 From: egodeath Date: 23/12/2015
    Subject: Nondual unity = lesser mysteries != inside boundary
    Exploring loosecog space, entheogen space, one big broad region is weak and incomplete accessing of nondual unity consciousness, but most specially and exclusive is a bounded zone with a gate.

    Many explore nondual unity to a limited extent, but few make it past the guarded gate into the walled garden where the real party is, the god’s wedding banquet that he brings his inner circle devotees, his full initiates, into.

    The control seizure vortex is the gate. Maidens are running away fleeing from the monster at that gate, they turn to look back at the gate while they flee away from it in terror, running away from the threat of loss of control.

    The maidens, explorers of personal control cybernetics steering in the loose cognitive binding state, seek unity nondual awareness, but they flee from control loss, control instability.

    Those on the inside have full unity nondual awareness and have fully transformed their thinking to remove the original, Possibilism impurity.

    To remain inside the garden past the guarded gate, your mental model must be fully transformed from Possibilism to Eternalism.

    Before, I envisioned a space of loosecog to explore and I pictured a beacon to discover, an object, a mental dynamic.

    But now I recognize the control-seizure panic vortex as a gate to pass through into a bounded, walled zone, a set-apart and guarded space within the exploration-space of the loosecog realm.

    You can picture it as a hilltop shrouded in mist fenced off and gated.

    Those who are lower on the hill try to climb and they are repelled at the gate by a threatening dragon at the control seizure vortex gate.

    Or the narrow bridge over the boundary river to the land of the Dead.

    Those who are past the gate and remain peacefully banqueting within the gate above the layer of mist, inside the elevated walled area, have fully transformed from the Possibilism to the Eternalism mental model of time, self, and control.

    Psychedelics explorers can remain dabbling in a degree of unity nonduality, only rarely trying to crash the gate but fleeing to save control stability and preserve practical control power. These I characterized as beginners.

    They think they are exploring nonduality loosecog space, but they have not broken through the gate into the inner gated zone.

    This is the exclusive, separated exploration space *within* the entheogenic exploration space, like the hill-island in the lake in Golden Gate Park in San Francisco with a dragon guarding the footbridge to it.

    They are outsiders within the entheogen exploration realm, who are not within the protected fenced-off zone and they are unable to venture through the gate, they know not the password, ‘Eternalism’.

    Martin Ball and Ken Wilber — how well can they get past this control-seizure compatibility testing gate to enter into the protected inner zone?

    They are limited to the outside; they don’t have a Dead ticket to get inside the venue to the main event; they are stuck out in the parking lot of enlightenment, in Shakedown Street.

    They don’t have an All-Access Pass to freely go in and out through the control-seizure testing gate.

    — Cybermonk
    Group: egodeath Message: 7440 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Nondual unity = lesser mysteries != inside boundary
    Where I am going, through the flaming gate, you cannot go yet, because you are still in your sin and you cannot yet bear and endure what I have to inform you.

    You cannot yet mentally demonstrate that controller X can make your higher thinking put any control-thought into your head.

    To pass through this gate, you must bow to fate and sacrifice your freewill [{foreskin}, {first-born}, Possibilism thinking].

    That is how those on the inside in the savior’s wedding banquet were brought there: the savior took away their freewill thinking, made them (as local control-agents) bow to fate in submission to fatedness.


    Dare to look, face the test, I can’t conceal it like I did before. With what you’ve been taught, you set sailing. Finally led to a way of thinking, will the acid test ocean still find cybernetic stable practical control sinking?


    Suppose Sam Harris has had 1 loosecog session. He asserts no-free-will.

    Can he pass through the winnowing gate into the inner sanctum Eternalism zone inside the loosecog realm?

    Not until his thinking is so purified and restructured that he can stably endure daring to look at his dependency on preset fated control thoughts which he receives from nowhere.

    A tape spews forth from the rock cave saying: now you will think this.

    Now you will think that.

    Now you will realize that you are utterly helplessly subservient to this instruction tape coming from nowhere.


    Your higher thinking is in control of your unchained mind and controller X is in control of your higher thinking.

    You can do anything.

    You will choose to do what you have been made to choose to do.

    Divine higher transcendent thinking reveals that you can think anything and put lower thinking to the test.

    You can be made by the preset uncontrollable control rail to do anything that controller X has fated you to do.

    You can only *discover* what control-thoughts have been placed ahead on your snake-shaped worldline cast in the rock.

    You have no choice but to utterly depend on this control-tape spewing out from nowhere.

    When its givenness of control-thoughts was obscured, the mind formed an egoic model of autonomy, self-command.

    Now that the givenness of control-thoughts is revealed as being concealed, your center of control origination shifts from illusory self as control originator to the hidden puppetmaster as originator.

    Those who have been forced and fated to be purified and made completely developed, are brought by the groom abducted into inside his gated guarded wedding chamber past the angel’s flaming sword which kills the egoic self-control origination illusion.

    Any tripper like Martin Ball is permitted a tantalizing taste of unity consciousness, but a few loosecog sessions only provides a transient preliminary glimpse and then when you get close to inside, you get thrown into panic seizure and are ejected by your incompatible, impure, immature, weak, Possibilism-thinking.

    It feels shameful and embarrassing to a supposed advocate of no-free-will when they realize how shot-through their own thinking still is with freewill thinking.

    No-free-will advocates discover that their own thinking has continued to be premised on freewill thinking.

    Trembling, they eventually perceive the embarrassing depth of their mental hypocrisy and finally the freewill demon is exorcised when they fully realize their utter dependency on uncontrollable controller X that already cast in stone their near-future thoughts unchangeably and realize that it is impossible to steer away from them, and that fully developed satisfactory enlightenment depends on testing and demonstrating the inability to avoid the radical testing-thoughts.

    God tested Abraham and forced him to will to sacrifice his future viable control power.

    Only this can satisfy the logical demand of rationality about control transcendence.

    — Cybermonk
    Group: egodeath Message: 7441 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Nondual unity = lesser mysteries != inside boundary
    To pass through this gate to the insiders’ zone of unity awareness, you must be made to bow to fate, you must be made to accept whatever your preset thoughts turn out to be, and you must be made to sacrifice your freewill Possibilism thinking.

    To move from outsiders’ unstable unity awareness, through the gate of cybernetic control death, to insiders’ stable unity awareness, you must be brought to full conscious awareness of complete dependency on the uncontrollable thought-source coming from nowhere, which always underlies any illusory control power which the old illusory center of control appeared to have.

    — Cybermonk
    Group: egodeath Message: 7442 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
    Subject: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct

    {fire} refers to the loose cognitive binding state of consciousness.  Loose cog tests the mind’s initial Possibilism thinking and causes it to fail and be revealed as based on illusory premises and mis-perception.  A series of loosecog sessions drives mental worldmodel transformation to the mental model which endures the testing in the loosecog state, the Eternalism model of the world and of personal control in that world.


    {philosopher roasting salamander in fire} refers to the mind in the loosecog state (induced by psilocybin) transforming the mental model from Possibilism to Eternalism.  


    {salamander} generally represents the mind’s mental worldmodel of time, self, control, and possibility, and specifically represents the Eternalism model.  It represents mind in transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism, from egoic thinking to transcendent thinking.


    The Holy Mushroom: Articles


    The Witches’ Ointment: Videos


    Book: The Witches’ Ointment


    Religious mythology refers to Entheogenic Eternalism.  Religious mythology doesn’t simply refer to entheogens per the Irvin/Ruck/Rush shallow superficial theory.  


    Sacrifice the unicorn.  Unicorn refers to the Possibilism mental model.  


    Salamander refers to the Eternalism mental model.  Burn off unicorn-thinking to result in salamander-thinking.  I immediately decoded that today when reading Hatsis’ expose of the weakness of the way Irvin/Ruck/Rush handle evidence.  


    Hatsis’ context, his material and his critical attitude, made the decoding easy; if salamander is not Amanita, what is it that survives fire?  Religious mythology is a riddle, and the Egodeath theory (Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism transformation) is the solution to the riddle.  


    We already know that, from my posts; I already have identified that which  survives fire: correct thinking; Possibilism thinking is burned away by fire, and then transformed, Eternalism thinking, purified, comes out on the other side of the angel’s furnace gate.



    My favorite strangeness is when I was reading Ruck’s incorrect long-shot interpretation of Mithras’ cape as red and white — meanwhile Ruck wrote nothing in his passage, I double-checked and I couldn’t believe it, Ruck wrote nothing about the clear, blue psilocybe mushroom in Mithras’ leg.  


    So I’ve seen multiple cases where the Ruck long-shot interpretation rendered him unable to focus on other, strong entheogen indications in the piece of art under examination.  


    The other case is Entheos journal, a depiction of a mushroom tree next to a mandrake tree, the latter passed without comment, astoundingly, at least I was unable to find any mention of it in caption or text.



    A big underlying reason for the not-ringing-true of the Ruck/Rush/Irvin interpretation is that they are not applying the Egodeath theory, specifically the Entheogenic Eternalism theory of religious mythology.  


    It is challenging to define and make the case for my boldly forced interpretation, Entheogenic Eternalism.  But it is even much more difficult to make the case for the off-base, mis-focused theory, the Entheogen theory of religious mythology lacking Eternalism theory.  


    I am theory-based, not evidence-based, and my mission is a tight theory — not historical accuracy.  The first order of business is to initially define a tight, clear, distinctive theory of religion and of interpretation of evidence.  


    Without the Egodeath theory, especially without Eternalism and the explanation of loose cognitive binding enabling mental worldmodel transformation from the Possibilism to the Eternalism mental worldmodel of time, self, and control, entheogen theorists are only playing with half a deck, half the required pieces of a viable solution.  


    The labor of forced interpretation is hard enough when you have both pieces — entheogens and Eternalism.  The case is doubly hard to make when you have conceptual incoherence by advancing the entheogen theory of interpretation without leveraging the partner theory, which is the Eternalism interpretation.  


    If the fire-purified, fire-impervious salamander doesn’t represent an element from the domain of entheogen plants, what better domain could it refer to?  


    The true primary referent domain of religious mythology is not visionary plants, but rather, that which they reveal, which is mental worldmodel transformation to Eternalism.  


    King doesn’t refer to king.  Wine doesn’t refer to wine.  Salamander doesn’t refer to salamander.  Unicorn doesn’t refer to unicorn.  Maiden doesn’t refer to maiden.  


    Mythemes don’t refer primarily to mushrooms.  Close but no cigar; no death and rebirth yet, there, into a new mental model of world and personal control agency.  


    Mythemes refer to the mushroom-revealed Eternalism mental worldmodel transformation.


    — Michael Hoffman, the theorist of Egodeath, decoder of religious mythology as Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism


    Group: egodeath Message: 7443 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    I meant to link to *this* page of videos.

    The Holy Mushroom: Videos

     



    Group: egodeath Message: 7444 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    I am not a Christian Mushroom Cult theorist.  
    I am a Christian Mushroom Eternalism theorist.  

    I am a critic of the adequacy of the Ruck/Irvin/Rush view.  Ruck/Irvin/Rush advocate the Christian Mushroom theory, which is incomplete, and which is false insofar as it poses as complete and claims to have identified the primary referent of myth.

    The Christian Mushroom theory lacks Eternalism and — despite Ruck’s book title, which is mispreresentative of his thinking and his book’s content — Ruck lacks cognitive phenomenology.

    A bestiary is a book of myth.  Therefore it is a book of religious mythology.  Therefore it is a book of metaphors describing entheogen-revealed Eternalism.

    Animals in myth are analogies to, and metaphors for, mental model transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism, as a model of the world, and a model of personal steering power of control in that world.

    — Professor Loosecog
     
    Group: egodeath Message: 7446 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    From one of Hatsis’ articles:
    “how will Mushroom Cult theorists contend with these trees from bestiaries—red capped, complete with spots?
    Is this asp from the Aberdeen Bestiary (12th century) clinging to a “mushroom-tree?” After all, the top is red with passable “white spots.”
    Where do asps fit into the Christian Mushroom Cult theory? Also in need of explaination [sic] … violence … “


    This thought leapt to mind:
    “Jesus dude, stop wasting time reading that Irvin shit and learn the Egodeath theory — illiterate!”

    And quit saying “mushroom cult”. Whatever theory you think you are refuting, is irrelevant. All the connections around “mushroom cult” are wrong. It isn’t 1970 anymore. Stop letting Allegro set the limits of your horizon of thinking.

    Hatsis is just leading himself further into confusion by reading inferior writers. He needs to learn the Egodeath theory, which is substantially different than Hatsis’ fabricated imagining of a “mushroom cult theory”.

    Hatsis is taking the Letcher position: fixate on an imagined variant of entheogen theory and then shadow-box that — a straw man argument.

    Better, profitable, with a chance of insight and viable theory, would be to critique the Egodeath theory including the 100% Entheogenic 100% Eternalism theory of religious mythology.

    Stop fixating on your imagined “mushroom cult” theory and reorient critical thinking around the Egodeath theory.

    I don’t even know what you mean by “mushroom cult” except it is an assumed minimalist Entheogen theory of religion. I reject the minimalist Entheogen theory of religion.

    All religion is understood to be based on mushrooms. That is the theory to critique. Hatsis is wasting his time focusing on some other, imagined foe.
    Group: egodeath Message: 7447 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Definitions, glossary, terms, terminology, abbreviations, acrony
    Egodeath bestiary decodings include
    Snake
    Dragon
    Horse
    Donkey
    Stag
    Unicorn
    Salamander
    Owl (not posted?)
    Sphinx
    Hydra
    Centaur
    Goat
    Ram

    Search Egodeath Yahoo group
    Group: egodeath Message: 7448 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Definitions, glossary, terms, terminology, abbreviations, acrony
    bestiary refers to a set of animal descriptions which map to entheogen eternalism
    Group: egodeath Message: 7449 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Definitions, glossary, terms, terminology, abbreviations, acrony
    Basilisk
    Group: egodeath Message: 7450 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    There are no secular books, per the 100% Entheogen Theory of Religion and Culture. A bestiary is a religious book.

    Ruck/Irvin/Rush is blind: he sees mushrooms everywhere.

    If Ruck/Irvin/Rush wasn’t blind, he would see the mushroom-revealed Eternalism depictions everywhere.
    Group: egodeath Message: 7451 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    Hatsis = outsiders critiquing outsiders’ attempts to solve the riddle of religious mythology. The result is confusions upon confusions. It’s a hopeless unraveling problem; they’ll never get it unraveled in any finite time. It’s a malformed criticism of a malformed theory.

    The right, effective approach is to start with the Egodeath theory and explain from there and critique from there.
    Group: egodeath Message: 7452 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    To interpret any item in question, consider the most distinctive position at the right-hand end of three spectrums.

    Where these three spectrums intersect at the right-most extreme position is Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism.

    The combination of three spectrums at the *left*-hand end is Literalist OSC Possibilism.

    To interpret item X, consider how item X is interpreted by those two distinctive easily identifiable positions where the three spectrums’ extreme endpoints intersect or combine.

    How does Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism interpret the item?
    How does Literalist OSC Possibilism interpret the item?
    Group: egodeath Message: 7453 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    There is really no focus on the concept of secret in the theory

    there is the concept of insiders to understand the analogies and outsiders who fail to understand the analogies

    and there is instead what I have instead of the concept of secret is the concept of veiling, that there is a veil hiding the source of control thoughts when the mind is in the tight cognitive state
    Group: egodeath Message: 7454 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    The man with his hand to his forehead is turning to the right like looking behind him and he is on one leg which is a common theme.

    There are connections and associations among all mytheme instances.

    From the perspective of 100% Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism, what linkage connection associations are there in each of the elements of this picture isomorphic with all other mythology pictures or pictograms, pictorial diagram elements?

    Do not analyze elements in isolation; analyze elements in groups spanning all altered state artwork and themes.

    Analyze = break out each element:
    Mushroom tree refers to loose cognitive binding
    Salamander in flames refers to durability of Eternalism
    Hand to head refers to poisoned egoic thinking
    One leg raised refers to having egoic and transcendent mental models
    Head turned right refers to remembering Transcendent Knowledge

    Forget this picture as a whole; instead focus on themes interpreted across all art interpreted by 100% Metaphorical 100% Entheogenic 100% Eternalism.

    Psilocybin poisons and kills the Possibilism mental model of time, self, and control, in the loose cognitive binding state, producing the Eternalism mental model of time, self, and control, which withstands the revising force of loosecog. Psilocybin causes an experience of remembering (deja vu) cybernetic self- control Eternalism.

    You are left with a combination of Eternalism thinking and qualified Possibilism thinking.

    Copyright (C) 2015 Egodeath. All Rights Reserved.
    Group: egodeath Message: 7455 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    What Hatsis registers as a problem, does not register as a problem at all from the Egodeath theory.

    There’s no conflict between the text and the image.

    I’ve seen at least one Greek statue propped up by a debranched tree trunk that instead of the normal snake per the staff of Asclepis has a lizard, thus establishing an equivalence between lizard and Heimarmene worldline snake.

    Two out of three images which Hatsis shows, depict a serpent in the tree or in the flames, not a lizard or salamander. So we get straight into the heart of the image of the snake versus tree, where the snake terminates in the fruit of the tree, and we have the Genesis question of “Will you die from the fruit, as God says, or will you not die, as the wise crafty serpent declares?”

    You have the association of the serpent leading up to, in his mouth, the fruit, which God and the snake debate.

    You will kind of die and you will kind of not die.

    You will die and you will not die. Hatsis is perfectly naive using ‘die’. He is ignorant of egodeath.


    You will and won’t die. Will you die from eating the serpent-poisoned fruit? Yes and no. The egoic freewill self-concept and world model dies.

    We have this poison fruit which poisons the mental model and kills it, leaving you alive with a new different mental model.

    Now I am transformed, and when you put me in the flames, or you put me in a sea-storm, I calm the sea-storm.

    I have the magical power to raise storms and calm storms.

    I have the magical power to create flames and put out flames.

    I am an indestructible salamander that is not only immune to the flames, I am so cold I put out the flames.

    So there is no conflict between the text and the image.

    The Egodeath theory — the Entheogenic Eternalism theory of mythology — enables reconciling and making sense out of this text in conjunction with making sense out of the imagery in the several depictions of the so-called salamander which Hatsis puts forth.

    Copyright (C) 2015 Egodeath. All Rights Reserved.
    Group: egodeath Message: 7456 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
    Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
    Carl Ruck can’t handle the entheogen theory of myth. He caved and got Hatsis to dissuade him from seeing that a mushroom tree depicts a mushroom.

    I am a super genius and I have a ultraradical theory that when you see a mushroom depicted in religious mythology, the secret hidden meaning of that is a mushroom. I am so brilliant and radical to accomplish this decryption, this decoding, this decipherment.

    Here is how very far off of the scent, far from the trail, Hatsis is: he does not recognize the bestiary as a religious mythology collection.

    Now Ruck has been coerced into saying that this mushroom tree does not depict mushrooms. He is utterly wrong. How can his instinct of interpretation be so weak?

    This is what Ruck gets for not applying my theory of interpretation, which glues together these interpretation items that Ruck can only present as isolated assertions.

    The Entheogen theory of myth without the Eternalism theory of myth is weak and incoherent, inadequate to glue together a robust interpretation that coheres.

    Copyright (C) 2015 Egodeath. All Rights Reserved.

    The Personal Control System Is Like a Woman

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    The Personal Control System Is Like a Woman, and a Man

    Andro-Gyne, Hermes-Aphrodite

    The ego death and transformation climax is like a woman.

    How is the ego death and transformation climax like a virgin maiden?

    The personal control system in the intense loose-cognitive altered state: its reaction is notably comparable to a woman:

    • A virgin.
    • Abducted.
    • Attracted. Drawn toward the attractive, intriguing, curious, loss-of-control threat/capability.
    • Seduced.
    • She resisted and wrestled against the takeover/revelation.
    • She was overpowered.
    • She then submitted.
    • Climax.
    • She was married by the true controller (control-thought inserter).
    • Bridal chamber.
    • Impregnated by the control-thought inserter.
    • She gave birth to new self-concept, of self-in-world, in a new world-concept.
    • She died in childbirth.
    • The child is god-aware.

    The personal control system, she acts female; the male aspect (the control-thought inserter) is initially hidden/veiled/obscured.

    The personal egoic control system acts female.

    The mind’s personal control system behaves in a female way:

    The mind’s personal control system resists being abducted, overpowered, seduced.

    Sequence of Female Aspects of the mind’s personal control system

    the personal control system behaves and responds in a female way:

    The possibilism to eternalism transformation is like (the sequence above).

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    Todo:

    • done: andro-gyne: 1 body, 2 heads: King & Queen
    • 2 snakes: King & Queen
    • caduceus: 2 snakes: male & female. Confirmed the early and late versions and variants, including the Mercury symbol of crescent atop O atop pole, is a pair snakes crossing over each other.
    • done: find image of King Steering in Tree, was image at Egodeath Yahoo Group.
    • tried: angels roasting wise men in flames
    • tried: andro-gyne holding a Y shape

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    {king steering in tree}

    Finding this image was a prediction of my theory; experiment of looking and keeping an eye out in books, yielded this experiment prediction result: confirming the Egodeath theory > the Mytheme theory > my construct I thought of without seeing an example, of {king steering in tree}.

    Finding this corroborating image after using the above compound construct was an important corroboration of my speculation combining:

    • king Pentheus caught up in a tree looking at Dionysus, turned into a tiger according to his Maenad mother, who tore him to pieces.
    • king Jesus fastened to a cross tree.
    • Rush lyrics No One at the Bridge, no one with arms to steer.

    No One at the Bridge
    v1 analysis
    http://www.egodeath.com/rushlyrics.htm#xtocid22921
    v2 analysis
    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/12/16/rock-lyrics-corroborate-egodeath-theory-entheogen-mytheme-theory/#No-One-at-the-Bridge-Rush

    King Steering in a Tree — vindicated my theory, of King Pentheus “caught up in a tree” spying on Dionysus. compared to King Jesus “lifted up and hung from the tree”. = possibilism-thinking.

    Maybe this is intended to be king Pentheus or modeled deliberately on — mythemes travel across eg Hellenistic & Christendom richly share mythemes, in different configurations.

    re: one of these images:

    https://egodeathyahoogroup.wordpress.com/2021/01/09/egodeath-yahoo-group-digest-172/#message9334 –

    “Correction: this king-in-a-tree pic is not from Hero, it’s from Campbell’s Grail book.

    “I have another pic of a king in a tree to add to the {king/tree} mytheme.

    Joseph Campbell
    Romance of the Grail: The Magic and Mystery of Arthurian Myth
    http://amazon.com/dp/1608683249/

    “December 15, 2015
    Page 105
    King in a tree:
    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/albums/89630474

    — Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com”

    IMG_3122.JPG — {king in a tree} = possibilism-thinking instead of the later, more durable eternalism-thinking.
    From cover art of book:
    The Mysteries of Mithra
    Franz Cumont, 1903
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    Brinckmann, Mushroom Trees, & Asymmetrical Branching
    https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/12/11/brinckmann-mushroom-trees-asymmetrical-branching/
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    Elements of the above REBIS:

    • king (male, control-thought inserter) is aware of 3 serpents/worldlines for 3 components of personal control system.
    • 3 serpents: proposed hypothesis decoding: [1:53 p.m. December 11, 2020]
      • God.
      • The worldline of the mind’s control-thought inserter.
      • The worldline of the mind’s control-thought receiver.
    • queen (female aspect of personal control system) is aware of 1 serpent/worldline of the personal control system
    • standing on rock = block universe
    • power rests on/ comes from, 3 serpents
    • Caduceus + cross on chest (Mercury symbol ☿): personal control system = 2 snakes, one system
    • Sun-faces plant like ivy leaves: time-slices of the control-agent along the worldline.
    • 2 locuses of control within the personal control system:
      • male control-thought inserter
      • female control-thought receiver.
      • cup of 3 serpents
    • holding with arm = controlling.
    • wings = altered state
    • pelican with 2 chicks, sacrificing its blood to feed them, dies which causes transformed new birth
    • lion = true ruler, death, victorious hunter
    • Done: define [acro]/keyboard shortcuts:
      • helpless thought-receiver [htr]
      • helpless control-thought receiver [hctr]
      • passive thought receiver [ptr]
      • passive control-thought receiver [pctr]
      • control-thought receiver [ctr]

    Around 2012, I posted about “two snakes, one of them king”. I posted something about caduceus; d/k if I posted the hypothesis that one snake is control-thought inserter, one control-thought receiver. I think I did, in which case, yesterday & today I RE-discovered that decoding, first posted around 2011-2012.

    #abraham eleazar from Dark Silence In Suburbia

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    Group: egodeath Message: 10650 From: egodeath Date: 11/09/2018
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    The Egodeath Theory:

    Religious Mythology Describes Peak-State Control Cancellation in Block-Universe Eternalism


    Religious Mythology Describes Altered-State Control Cancellation in Block-Universe Eternalism

    Religious Mythology Describes Control-Cancellation in Altered-State Block-Universe Eternalism

    Religious Mythology Describes Altered-State Experiencing of Control Cancellation in Block-Universe Eternalism

    Altered-State Control Cancellation in Block-Universe Eternalism


    The Egodeath theory is the most awesome achievement ever; it is mythic, not just epic. Engineering/STEM produced the Egodeath theory.

    The Egodeath theory is a fundamental of, and a prerequisite for, Psychedelic Cognitive Science.


    Cybernetic Eternalism

    Mythology Describes Loose-Cognitive Experiencing of Cybernetic Block-Universe Eternalism

    Mythology Describes Cybernetic Self-Control Cancellation in Loose-Cognitive Block-Universe Eternalism

    Cybernetic Cancellation in Loose-Cognitive Block-Universe Eternalism

    Cybernetic Cancellation in Block-Universe Eternalism

    Cybernetic Cancellation in Psychedelic Block-Universe Eternalism

    Entheogenists and psycholyticists say ‘psychedelic’ connotes goofy ’60s style.


    Mythology as Block-Universe Eternalism

    That title is impressive only if you tremble knowingly already at the words ‘iron block universe’ or ‘Eternalism’, but lacks mention of cybernetic noncontrol, which is the Core theory’s point:

    Eternalism experiencing causes ego transcendence in the form of cybernetic noncontrol, cybernetic control-cancellation, which is of top interest and excitement.

    Not “Let’s make Dionysus boring.”

    What if you hate mythology, “myth and religion is irrational propaganda for Science to refute and overthrow” a la James Kent?

    To the scorched-earth anti-religion atheist, providing a breakthrough decoding of religious mythology is seen as a negative, as condoning and excusing irrationalism; instead, the loose-cognitive discovery and explanatory mapping of no-free-will block-universe Eternalism, as an innate potential of the mind, is the positive and exciting contribution.


    Mythology Describes Control Cancellation in Loose-Cognitive Experiencing of Block-Universe Eternalism

    Mythology Describes Control Cancellation in Altered-State Experiencing of Block-Universe Eternalism

    Experiencing Control Cancellation in Block-Universe Eternalism

    Control-Cancellation in Loose-Cognitive Block-Universe Eternalism

    Mythology as Control-Cancellation in Loose-Cognitive Block-Universe Eternalism


    The Egodeath theory consists of core and myth:

    Core:
    The Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence
    The Loose-Cognitive Cybernetic Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence
    The Loose-Cognitive, Non-control Block-Universe Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence

    Myth:
    Decoding Religious Mythology as Description of Block-Universe Eternalism


    The Egodeath theory is a great interesting theory of myth and a great interesting theory about control-cancellation in the experiencing of block-universe/worldline Eternalism, as the real nature of ego transcendence.

    The Egodeath theory makes readily available the discovery of the potential of the mind to enter God-mode metaprogramming to demonstrate ways to transcend and disrupt and test and seize personal control power, like a coupling of powers that kills the previous mode and gives rise to a new self-conception as control agent or locus of control agency.

    The Egodeath theory is by far the most interesting, exciting, Science-revolutionary, useful, and valuable.

    The title, the elaborated content, the subtitle, and the summary of the Egodeath theory conveys how superlatively interesting, exciting, thrilling, numinous, and valuable, the Egodeath theory is.

    Loose-cognitive cybernetic control seizure and transformation, as described by religious mythology, is explained and made fully known, mapped out, described and explained by this condensed, cogent summarized theory.

    ______________________________

    The peak mystic altered state as ultimate value

    Value-laden phrases: peak state, high culture, ultimate concerns, our highest values, the greatest mysteries, peak experiencing, the profoundly numinous and meaningful, self-transcendence, high art, the transcendent, the Most High, revelation of heaven, higher consciousness, higher education.
    The Egodeath theory explains the highest, greatest values, the ultimate and most valuable mysteries, as the world’s most successful and most valuable and useful explanatory theory.

    The value of the Core theory and of the Myth Decoding theory, mutually support each other, having the ultimate value both when considered independently and when combined together.

    The Core theory (of 1988-1997) is the most interesting, and more so when myth-decoding is explained and discovered too.

    The most interesting, highest ideas in the world

    All kinds of questions, topics, issues, mysteries, are solved by this maximum explanatory power of the Egodeath theory,
    making sense of Reformed theology,
    mythology,
    psychedelics phenomenology,
    entheogenic cognitive phenomenology,
    schizophrenia,
    religious themes,
    Western Esotericism,
    models of time in Physics and Metaphysics,
    a better version of “free will vs. determinism”, than causal-chain determinism
    understanding the essential meaning of the Mystery Religions,
    connecting with Western Civilization,
    recognizing the meaning of dragons and monstrous serpents in world religion,
    understanding the entheogenic access to world religions,
    wondering about the New Testament’s spiritual Christ experience and the Holy Spirit from the Eucharist
    — all mysteries, all that is veiled, shall be revealed, by the Egodeath theory.

    The highest values are religion and Science, the mystic state, and Mystery Religions with mythology; high culture: all is explained by the Egodeath theory, which can justify and corroborate these values.

    The ultimate, highest potential of the mind is the religious altered state, revealing the nature of personal control in the mind across time.

    These cultural peak values can be justified by the Egodeath theory of innate cognitive development from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Altered-state Eternalism.


    Boring, overformal, roundabout, and limited: the Old Theory:

    The Ken Wilber “nondrug meditation Nondual Unity Oneness” theory of what ego transcendence is about

    The Martin Ball “entheogenic Nondual Unity Oneness” theory of what ego transcendence and mystic-state revelation is about.

    — Michael Hoffman
    September 10, 2018
    Group: egodeath Message: 10651 From: egodeath Date: 11/09/2018
    Subject: Highest value: explaining loosecog Eternalism
    Highest value: explaining loosecog Eternalism

    The thing of greatest value is systematically explaining altered-state Eternalism and its qualification of Possibilism-thinking, as the Egodeath theory does.

    1. Transformation of the mental worldmodel from ordinary-state Possibilism to the altered-state Eternalism model of time and control, is more developed than only having the mental worldmodel of Possibilism.

    2. A distinct argument is that the highest value in human experience (or at least *a* highest value), is transformation to altered-state Eternalism.


    Postulate 1. A mental state that is more developed than and more valuable than ordinary-state Possibilism, is altered-state Eternalism.

    Eternalism-thinking (preserving Possibilism-thinking) is better than Possibilism-thinking without having Eternalism-thinking.

    Having Eternalism-thinking as well as (now qualified) Possibilism-thinking is better and more valuable than having Possibilism-thinking but being ignorant of Eternalism-thinking.


    Postulate 2. The (or a) most valuable thing in the world is transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism.

    Having Eternalism-thinking and (qualified) Possibilism-thinking is better and more valuable than anything else in the world.

    People report that psilocybin was *one of* their most important experiences (though they are far from understanding Eternalism and mythology) — not necessarily *the* most important experience.

    The New Testament holds that equally important as the revelation of Eternalism, is societal structuring; the revelation of Eternalism is *an* ultimate value, not the *only* ultimate value.

    Eternalism is *an* ultimate value, if not *the* ultimate value; nothing is more valuable than the loose-cognitive revelation of Eternalism fully explained by Science per the Egodeath theory.

    ___________

    It is conventionally agreed by many people throughout history that religion, Mystery Religions, mystic state revelation, self-transcendence, is the highest value.

    This value must be judged by late-modern Science, even if Science cannot assess value and only gives “is”, not “ought”.


    The argument from “transcend and include” and the traditional, religious-mythology analogy of “non-initiate = child/animal”:

    Why the sacred meal and its sacrifice and prayer and re-stabilization of control (the loosecog Eternalism revelation and resultant mental transformation) are better than, more developed than, higher than, superior to, and more valuable than ordinary-state Possibilism thinking:

    Cognitive developmental psychology, in the Egodeath theory, finds and discovers that metaprogramming and analysis of how the mind works, uncovers and accesses potential dynamics of the mind that are outside and beyond the ordinary state of consciousness, preserving the familiar cognitive structures and worldmodel, while adding another, contrasting worldmodel, per Ken Wilber’s concept of “transcend and include”.

    By Wilber’s definition of “transcend and include the lower structures”, loose cognitive Eternalism as a new, more stable model of time and control, transcends the ordinary-state Possibilism model of time and control.

    Altered-state Eternalism including its “sacrifice and prayer” and restabilization dynamics, is more developed and refined than Ordinary-state Possibilism.

    The intense mystic altered-state is not “non-rational”; the mind moves from the tight cognitive binding state which includes some rationalist based on that experiential state, to the loose cognitive binding state which includes rationality now informed by that experiential state.

    Non-rationality is a useless, irrelevant concept.

    What matters, an accurate characterization, is two experiential states.

    Rationality is increased by further developing rationality within the loosecog experiential state, modifying the incorrect rationality, incoherence regarding control and time, from the initial, ordinary state.

    Both the initial ordinary state and the later altered state are innate potentials of the mind, and the mind is structured so as to first produce half-baked rationality like that of animals and children, and then to produce corrected rationality and integrity like that of the initiated, rationally purified adult.

    Adding the sacred meal-induced loosecog state repeatedly, caused mental developing in a religious and mythology-described, analogy-leveraging direction, while preserving previous quasi-rational thinking as relatively undeveloped, “childish thinking”.

    Upon experiencing and understanding loosecog Eternalism, the mind puts away childish thinking, while preserving, cherishing, and retaining that more primitive, less rational, animal-like way of thinking about control and time.

    — Michael Hoffman
    September 11, 2018


    The peak mystic altered state as ultimate value

    Value-laden phrases: peak state, high culture, ultimate concerns, our highest values, the greatest mysteries, peak experiencing, the profoundly numinous and meaningful, self-transcendence, high art, the transcendent, the Most High, revelation of heaven, higher consciousness, higher education.

    The Egodeath theory explains the highest, greatest values, the ultimate and most valuable mysteries, as the world’s most successful and most valuable and useful explanatory theory.

    The value of the Core theory and of the Myth Decoding theory, mutually support each other, having the ultimate value both when considered independently and when combined together.

    The Core theory (of 1988-1997) is the most interesting, and more so when myth-decoding is explained and discovered too.

    The most interesting, highest ideas in the world

    All kinds of questions, topics, issues, mysteries, are solved by this maximum explanatory power of the Egodeath theory,
    making sense of Reformed theology,
    mythology,
    psychedelics phenomenology,
    entheogenic cognitive phenomenology,
    schizophrenia,
    religious themes,
    Western Esotericism,
    models of time in Physics and Metaphysics,
    a better version of “free will vs. determinism”, than causal-chain determinism
    understanding the essential meaning of the Mystery Religions,
    connecting with Western Civilization,
    recognizing the meaning of dragons and monstrous serpents in world religion,
    understanding the entheogenic access to world religions,
    wondering about the New Testament’s spiritual Christ experience and the Holy Spirit from the Eucharist
    — all mysteries, all that is veiled, shall be revealed, by the Egodeath theory.

    The highest values are religion and Science, the mystic state, and Mystery Religions with mythology; high culture: all is explained by the Egodeath theory, which can justify and corroborate these values.

    The ultimate, highest potential of the mind is the religious altered state, revealing the nature of personal control in the mind across time.

    These cultural peak values can be justified by the Egodeath theory of innate cognitive development from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Altered-state Eternalism.


    Boring, overformal, roundabout, and limited: the Old Theory:

    The Ken Wilber “nondrug meditation Nondual Unity Oneness” theory of what ego transcendence is about

    The Martin Ball “entheogenic Nondual Unity Oneness” theory of what ego transcendence and mystic-state revelation is about.

    — Michael Hoffman
    September 10, 2018

    _____________

    People *talk about* “Western and Greek and European heritage” and “the spirit of bold adventure” — yet don’t see that the core of that Greek heritage is {mushroom wine revealing Eternalism}, as the highest value in the Western/Greek heritage — a value that is rediscovered and truly explained in a scientifically adequate way for the first time, by the Egodeath theory.


    Highest victory, laurel wreath:
    The hero-model Apollo gets laurel crown wreath for victory over the dragon. Laurel = mainly nonbranching. Dragon = snake = nonbranching, vs. the possibility-branching tree with the control-agent person as a king seeming to steer.

    _____

    Theorem about values, justifying culture’s valuation of psychedelics and the resulting experiential insight of Eternalism/non-control:

    The mind is structured such that the highest desire and drive is Transcendent Knowledge, of loosecog Eternalism.


    Valuing psychedelics insofar as culture values the “block-universe Eternalism/noncontrol” insight which is revealed by psychedelics, is distinct from the New Testament’s mundane valuing of a just society.

    Revaluing values: justifying values.

    The loosecog state (which comes from psychedelics) and its revelation of Eternalism are of highest value, as religion and Greco/Roman/Jewish/Christian culture asserts.

    The New Testament is complex: *a* goal, a highest value in the New Testament, is psychedelic Eternalism. An ultimate value in the New Testament is loosecog Eternalism.

    One kind of righteousness in the New Testament is righteousness per the Holy Spirit (metaphysical enlightenment about personal control in light of Eternalism).

    Metaphysical enlightenment about loosecog Eternalism is one of the ultimate values in the New Testament.


    Only care about the Core aspects of Psychedelics, or of the New Testament. One of the two ultimate values in the New Testament is loosecog Eternalism.

    — Michael Hoffman
    September 2, 2018
    Group: egodeath Message: 10653 From: egodeath Date: 11/09/2018
    Subject: Re: Highest value: explaining loosecog Eternalism
    It is better to understand psychedelic block-universe Eternalism and its prayer and sacrifice, than to only have ordinary-state Possibilism-thinking.

    Exploring Cognitive Science with higher dosage than in Psychedelic Neuroscience, requires the suitable stable foundation of control that the Egodeath theory identifies in religious mythology, a relationship of sacrifice and prayer when relating to or identifying with the uncontrollable transcendent source of control-thoughts.

    The Psycholytic Cognitive Science explorer is like a helpless female thought-receiver; the uncontrollable source of personal control-thoughts is like a male overpowering and rapturing the female.

    The Egodeath theory is required, for people to make good on the trendy promising psychedelic Cognitive Science, Psychedelic Neuroscience, which is inauthentic in that it deliberately avoided dosage levels that put the mind into the truly interesting, unstable, region of sacred danger.

    Psychedelic Neuroscience held back in the threshold, not passing through the door.

    To pass through this gate into the promised land, receiving a kind of transcendent control of thinking, requires the Egodeath theory: requires understanding block-universe Eternalism noncontrol experience, and “sacrifice and prayer” to gain stability and retain enlightenment, the revelation of profound dependence on the pre-existing rail of personal control-thoughts in the future — a pre-existing control-rail that the local control agent didn’t create and doesn’t control and cannot steer away from.

    Greco-Roman culture — the roots of Western Civilization — was highly aware of the uncontrollable snake-shaped worldline control rail frozen in the rock of the unchangeable block universe.

    Psychedelic Neuroscience is not yet informed of the monstrous dragon of worldline-given instability hiding in the rock in the wellspring of control-thoughts in the rock cave of the mind, in the altered state.

    Would-be Cognitive Psychedelicists will flee like maidens washing clothes, in terror of abduction by the foreign male hero, kicked out of the gated garden by their own lack of compatibility with seeing and experiencing Eternalism, their own inability to put trust in the alien, uncontrollable source of their own control-thoughts.

    The first order of discovery and research in Psychedelic Cognitive Science is the Egodeath theory: the dynamics of control stabilization in the altered state.

    Both, in conjunction, are a prerequisite for general-purpose Psychedelic Cognitive Science, and are the first order of business to study:
    o The study of cybernetic noncontrol in the Eternalism block universe with personal-control worldline.
    o The study of religious mythology, which is a rich body of description of the dynamics of control in light of Eternalism.

    Block universe, worldline, and Eternalism
    Religious mythology

    Psychedelic Cognitive Science brings loose cognitive association binding, from psychedelics, but first must confront “the shadow”, of uncontrollable pre-given control-thoughts, and not just expect the sensation of nondual unity oneness.

    The shadow that bedevils the attempt for nontrivial-dosage Psychedelic Cognitive Science, is block-universe worldline Eternalism no-free-will, and religious mythology describing grappling with that cybernetic transformation of mental worldmodel, as explained by the Egodeath theory.

    — Michael Hoffman
    September 11, 2018
    Group: egodeath Message: 10656 From: egodeath Date: 11/09/2018
    Subject: Revising the main article
    Revising the main article

    Two versions of revising my main article:
    1. Mandatory: minimal fixes
    2. Nice todo: rewrite/ expansion/ filtering-out non-essentials


    http://egodeath.com/EntheogenTheoryOfReligion.htm


    1. Simplest/quickest approach: what are the fewest revisions to fix the main article? Required spot-fixes, remaining “the same article”:

    Critical required omissions:
    o Huge oversight/omission: tree/snake (implies several pics)

    Critical required terminology corrections:
    o Just wrong: “block-universe Eternalism” instead of “Determinism”. Stanford Online Encyclopedia of Philosophy’s labelled diagrams of the Possibilism and Eternalism models of time (and control, experienced/seen, in loosecog state, the Eternalism state of consciousness).

    Critical corrections:
    o Substantially embarrassing: Moses’ healing snake on pole (debranched tree), not time-pole — after I published the main article 1986, this “time pole” phrase interpretive problem continued to bother me, leading to 2013 huge major decoding of {branching} mytheme.
    o Moderately embarrassing: “animal” -> stag with branching antlers
    o Minor embarrassing: 5 mushrooms, not 4, in final picture


    2. Really nice to add — but not critical/mandatory: potentially becomes a “new article”:

    Revise all phrasing, title, summary, detail.

    Remove non-essential topics (clear room for additions, make it a pure Science theory).

    {male/female}:
    male/female mythemes, uncontrollable hidden control thought source, helpless receiver of control-thoughts

    {branching/nonbranching; tree vs. snake/rock}:
    o rebis holding up Y branch – decoding Western Esotericism
    o ossuary: man horse path see snake on debranched tree
    o snake carved in rock = worldline in block universe
    o Minkowski = Parmenides’ block univ Eternalism
    o monster dragon serpent = uncontrollable personal control-worldline rail = peak threat to personal control
    o king steering in tree -> wine -> snake frozen in rock
    o Jesus “hung on a tree” means Cross = tree: {king in tree is sacrificed}
    o Jonah’s “whale” is actually sea-serpent (block-universe worldline); Jonah-headed snake
    o pics: Eve/snake/tree in Campbell’s Power of Myth, + Jason/dragon/laurel/ram-fleece/Athena (Jason-headed snake), Eve-headed snake

    make sure covered: sacrifice of Isaac: ram’s power caught helplessly in branching bush. Sustainability of person beyond the peak sacrifice, no harm = live on to worship as a devout people; “How to see God and live, unharmed, to worship God”.

    {gate}

    {purify/purgatory}

    {bedevilled} – semi-covered, as “possessed”/”Jesus casts out the demon, man’s son returns to sanity”

    __________

    It is insane and irrational, conceptually inconsistent, to not understand religious mythology.

    Atheists convert to religion in the last days, when they finally recognize religious mythology as description of no-free-will, cybernetic noncontrol given the loose cognitive ability to see and experience block-universe Eternalism, as explained by the Egodeath theory.

    — Michael Hoffman
    September 11, 2018
    Group: egodeath Message: 10658 From: egodeath Date: 11/09/2018
    Subject: Re: Revising the main article
    change
     after I published the main article 1986
    to
     after I published the main article 2006

    Group: egodeath Message: 10659 From: egodeath Date: 12/09/2018
    Subject: Re: Duplicate posts
    Posted 4 times, still waiting for Web UI to show post
    Group: egodeath Message: 10660 From: egodeath Date: 13/09/2018
    Subject: Re: Highest value: explaining loosecog Eternalism
    Change
    the tight cognitive binding state which includes some rationalist
    to
    the tight cognitive binding state which includes some rationality

    Group: egodeath Message: 10662 From: egodeath Date: 13/09/2018
    Subject: Re: Egodeath Core theory includes myth
    I am inclined again to use two terms, instead of one, for Eternalism and Cybernetics.

    In my 2006 main article, I broke out 4 themes: metaphor, entheogens, “determinism” (Eternalism), Cybernetics — “determinism” and “cybernetics” were two distinct main categories, of 4.

    In my writings around 2014-2018, I combined “determinism” or block universe, with cybernetics, combined into a single word: Eternalism, leaving only 3 main concepts: 

    *myth* describes *loosecog* revealing *Eternalism*

    ‘loosecog’ (or, “psychedelics”) includes the topic of *mental construct processing* per Cognitive Science.

    ‘Eternalism’ includes two major concept-categories: time and control; Heimarmene and non-control; Fatedness and cybernetic seizure; the *preexistence* of *control*-thoughts.

    C: TIME/ETERNALISM TERMS:
    Eternalism
    Fatedness
    Heimarmene
    block universe (combines w/ ‘worldline’, in Cybernetics category)
    frozen time
    determinism (also connotes control, & ventures *how* no-free-will works across time, *how* it is that the future is set)
    no meta-change

    D: CONTROL/CYBERNETICS TERMS:
    Cybernetics
    non-control
    control cancellation
    self-control seizure
    rail of control-thoughts
    worldline (combines w/ ‘block universe’, in Eternalism category)
    no-free-will
    no meta-control


    Ancients combined all the initial, non-initiates’ concepts into {tree}, and combined all the post-initiation concepts into {snake}.  

    The maximally condensed {tree/snake} contrast omits {wine} (cognitive loosener chemicals), and doesn’t differentiate between Block-universe (time) and Cybernetics (control).  

    Nor does it depict {king}, or {rock} in which {snake} is helplessly embedded — though carving {tree/snake} literally in rock or marble, does bring-in the {rock} block-universe concept, cheating by using the medium as a third element, forming {tree vs. snake-and-rock}, and implicitly, {king-and-tree vs. snake-and-rock}, still omitting {wine} though.  

    You don’t just see a snake on a debranched tree; taking stock of the situation more fully, you see a snake on a debranched tree, carved in rock — a rock carving of a snake on a debranched tree.

    The stock rock-ossuary image could include king-equivalent, (non-)steering, snake, tree, and rock (but maybe not wine):
    a non-steering man is carried by horse or donkey on a path to see a snake on a debranched tree, the scene carved in rock.  

    Other stock ossuary images include {wine cup & banqueting couch}.

    Eternalism is conventionally thought of as a theory of time, with only incidental consideration of control.  It is not clear enough that experiencing the Eternalism model of time, includes especially, the non-control experience.  The new mental model revealed by loosecog is a new model of time and control — or, of “control and time”.

    It’s necessary to explicitly emphasize the cybernetic noncontrol experience, not only Eternalism considered as a model of time.  

    The word ‘determinism’ has an advantage over ‘Eternalism’: people understand that ‘determinism’ renders control agency and moral culpability problematic, in theory.  

    The term ‘determinism’ connotes control & an over-specific theory of how no-free-will works across time: in-time causal chain, with the future thought of as not existing, like in the Possibilism model of time.  

    ‘determinism’ is premised on Possibilism-thinking, not Eternalism concepts.  

    The conventional conception of “block universe” is more like Eternalism.  

    Per the conventional conception of ‘determinism’, you aren’t constrained because the future exists, but because the causal chain is closed.


    Keys: time, control, and experience.  

    A brief summary of the mental transformation, needs to say “experience”, and “control”, not only connoting time.


    Generalized wording for myth theory

    A describes B experientially revealing C and D.

    Pick terms from the lists:

    A: ANALOGY TERMS:
    analogy
    metaphor
    description
    myth
    mythology
    religious mythology

    B: LOOSECOG TERMS:
    altered state
    psycholytics
    psychedelics
    entheogens
    psychotomimetics
    loose cognitive binding
    Loose Cognitive Science
    loose mental construct processing

    C: TIME/ETERNALISM TERMS:
    Eternalism
    Fatedness
    Heimarmene
    block universe (combines w/ ‘worldline’, in Cybernetics category)
    frozen time
    determinism (connotes control & how no-free-will works across time)
    no meta-change

    D: CONTROL/CYBERNETICS TERMS:
    Cybernetics
    non-control
    control cancellation
    self-control seizure
    rail of control-thoughts
    worldline (combines w/ ‘block universe’, in Eternalism category)
    no-free-will
    no meta-control

    Summing all the terms in concept-categories A-D at once:

    {analogy, metaphor, description, myth, mythology, religious mythology}
    describes
    {altered state, psycholytics, psychedelics, entheogens, psychotomimetics, loose cognitive binding, Loose Cognitive Science, loose mental construct processing}
    experientially revealing
    {Eternalism, Fatedness, Heimarmene, block universe, frozen time, determinism, no meta-change}
    and
    {Cybernetics, non-control, control cancellation, self-control seizure, rail of control-thoughts, worldline, no-free-will, no meta-control}.


    Specific example, with familiar terms:

    Mythology describes psychedelics experientially revealing the block universe and no-free-will.

    {Mythology} describes {psychedelics} experientially revealing {the block universe} and {no-free-will}.


    In terms of my technical concepts:

    Analogy describes loosecog experientially revealing Eternalism and Cybernetics.

    {Analogy} describes {loose cognition} experientially revealing {Eternalism} and {Cybernetics}.


    That generalized formula is still missing key concepts:
    o  2-state mental construct processing.  Implicit in the ‘altered-state’ category.
    o  mental worldmodel of time and control.  Implicit in the combination of ‘altered-state’, ‘eternalism’, and ‘cybernetics’ categories.
    o  mental model transformation.  Implicit in the combination of ‘altered-state’, ‘eternalism’, and ‘cybernetics’ categories.
    o  (negatively:) Possibilism.  Implicit in ‘Eternalism’ as the previous view.
    o  (combination spanning time & control:) pre-existence of control-thoughts
    o  block universe — that term needs to emphasize ‘worldline’, because perceiving the worldline (snake monster) is what causes noncontrol experience; it’s really “block universe containing worldlines”, which is distinct from the “causal-chain determinism” hypothesis of how or why it’s a block universe.

    Add:
    , causing transformation of the mental worldmodel of time and control, given the preexistence of control-thoughts.

    ANALOGY describes LOOSECOG experientially revealing BLOCK UNIVERSE and NONCONTROL, causing transformation of the mental worldmodel of time and control, given the preexistence of control-thoughts.

    transformation of the mental worldmodel from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Altered-state Eternalism and Non-control.
    without myth:
    transformation of the mental worldmodel from Ordinary-state Possibilism to Altered-state Eternalism and Non-control.

    ‘Non-control’ means no meta-level control.  The experience is of non-control (and paradoxically, omni-control, per Louis Sass).

    — Michael Hoffman
    September 13, 2018

    Group: egodeath Message: 10663 From: egodeath Date: 13/09/2018
    Subject: Re: Highest value: explaining loosecog Eternalism
    Argument from etymology and mythic metaphor:
    The authentic, psychedelic Eucharist is the opposite of ‘degenerate’ (= eliminating fertility).

    The traditional ancient Greek and Christian use of the psychoactive sacred meals is fertile, giving new life, adding to existing ideas without destroying them (only qualifying them).

    Giving birth, creating mythic babies or children, reproduction, fertility.

    Semele dies by Zeus’ power being revealed, and Dionysus is born.

    The sacred meal causes new life, rebirth, the birth of the divine child, birth of divinity.

    Psychedelics are divinely fertile, producing lasting life, non-dying, a-thanatos, rebirth in divine form, coupling of God and man (Mary, Semele) giving birth to Christ, the divine new child.

    The Holy Spirit in the sacred meal gives a new mental model of time and control, preserving the old mental model for daily mundane use, qualifying and transcending the old model — preserve and transcend the lower structure, per Ken Wilber.

    The mythic entheogenic family: the mystic marriage, bridal chamber, procreation, from which new, divine life is born.

    Isaac through whom a population of righteous devout offspring sustains forever. The quasi-sacrifice of Isaac is fecund, leading to a people who live on to be righteous, multiplying.

    The sacred meal bringing to completion of transcendent mental development is prolific, fertile, lasting, durable, strengthening, timelessly classic, perennial, never-ending.

    — Michael Hoffman
    September 13, 2018
    Group: egodeath Message: 10664 From: egodeath Date: 13/09/2018
    Subject: Re: Duplicate posts
    Going for a record, like 8 times posting before post appears in web UI…
    Group: egodeath Message: 10678 From: egodeath Date: 17/09/2018
    Subject: Re: Duplicate posts
    Waiting for significant revision (v2) of post “I found a 2011 hardcopy revision markup of the 2007 main article” to appear in Web UI.  

    Paragraph 3 = 
    I hadn’t decoded the mythemes {tree} or {rock} yet.

    Group: egodeath Message: 10679 From: egodeath Date: 17/09/2018
    Subject: Re: Revising the main article
    I found a 2011 hardcopy revision markup of the 2007 main article, around the date of my Nov. 2011 preliminary version of my Nov. 2013 branching breakthrough: in that 2011 markup draft, I was intent on differentiating the Core theory vs. mythic metaphor decoding.

    After the 2013 “branching vs. nonbranching” breakthrough, that effort seems like misguided priorities, focusing on mere presentation while a major conceptual structure was missing: the specific parallel contrast between the two models of time and control, in terms of possibility branching vs. monopossibility.

    I hadn’t decoded the mythemes {tree} or {rock} yet.


    In 1988, I framed the Egodeath theory in terms of a new theory or explanatory paradigm of what *ego transcendence* is about (against the “nonduality” explanation).

    Handwritten Minnesota draft, draft 1: August 11, 1988.

    I wished to publish my loosecog/block-universe/cybernetics theory in December 1988 in the Journal of Transpersonal Psychology.

    Until ~2001, my “Theory of Ego Transcendence” lacked myth-decoding. My 2007 main article has *most* myth-decoding, but lacked systemic contrast between Possibilism vs. Eternalism; branching vs. nonbranching models of time and control; tree vs. snake. The Core theory lacked that structure, that elegant parity of contrast, and the 1998-2007 myth-decoding addendum of the theory lacked {tree vs. snake}.

    Now (in 2013-2018), I’m more interested in contrasting the two innate, state-dependent mental models of time and control, rather than (in 1988) contrasting the (Ken Wilber/Martin Ball) nonduality vs. (Hoffman) loosecog/Eternalism/noncontrol theories of what ego trancendence is about.

    One of my 1988 theory titles was “The Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence” (CTET), but that overemphasizes the Cybernetics aspect, lacking the Loosecog and Eternalism aspects which lead up to the great, peak “cybernetic noncontrol” experience.

    Since January 1988, the Egodeath theory was a theory (lacking myth-decoding at that time) that the nature of ego transcendence is Loosecog/Block-universe/Cybernetics.

    A more balanced title would be like:

    The Loosecog/Eternalism/Cybernetics Theory of Ego Transcendence

    or equivalent words for ‘loosecog’, ‘eternalism’, and ‘cybernetics’; eg:

    The Psycholytic/Fatedness/Noncontrol Theory of Ego Transcendence

    That focus of the theory held from 1988 to 1997. Then I added myth (and art, and Rock lyrics) decoded as description of those 3 things: loosecog revealing fatedness & noncontrol.


    The mere monochrome reproduction of half the painting, in _The Power of Myth_, focused my thinking to, for the first time, notice *as a contrast*, the Eden tree *versus* the Eden snake: tree and snake are the two contrasting architectural *shapes* of the models of time and control, possibility-branching control-tree experienced in the ordinary state (tight cognitive binding), frozen worldline-snake in block universe experienced in the altered state (loose cognitive binding).

    Ruck et al failed to interpret snake, or vine, in terms of its *shape*; same with tree (eluded me longer than snake): snake and vine are not important because of venom or Ruck’s invented explanation “the Greeks had psychoactive ivy”, nor shedding skin (never depicted in art despite the snake/serpent/dragon being the #1 most common mytheme symbol in religious mythology).

    The SHAPE of {snake/ivy}; the SHAPE of {tree}, the CONTRAST between the SHAPE of tree VERSUS snake, is the most-profound point. My mytheme research and postings around 2010-2013 built up to that greatest insight, about shape-contrast, on November 29, 2013. I think of this as figuring out “branching theory”.

    When I had the “branching theory” breakthrough insight, I had been working toward a contrast-based quadrant-oriented diagram to represent the Egodeath theory, working toward increasing contrast between the before-and-after models — that’s how I prepared and invested in the R&D that led to this discovery of the most efficient (and thus most archaic) representation of the two fundamental mental models, corresponding with the two states of cognitive binding intensity.

    ____________________


    Addendum September 16+, 2018 (content for bottom of main article)

    *contrasting* the branching vs. nonbranching models of time-and-control.

    Images for 11/29/2013 “branching theory” breakthrough:

    o Photo of Campbell’s _Power of Myth_ book, Eve/snake/tree/branches/stag, including my 11/29/2013 notes.

    o Photo of cover of mythology book, showing Jason image on a kylix/cup/wine-saucer.

    o Diagrams: Stanford Encyclopedia article “Being and Becoming in Modern Physics” https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/spacetime-bebecome/#PresPossEter The Possibilism vs. Eternalism models of time (and, more intensely when experienced, of control).

    from branching, open, non-extant future, to monopossibility, pre-existing future.

    the branching illusion, the two basic *contrasted* fundamental experiential models of time and control.

    It’s about the pointed, systematic *contrast*! tree *versus* snake. tree-like vs. snake-in-rock-like models of time-and-control.

    Recognize the tree and snake in terms of contrasting master models of time and control agency.

    Combined branching vs. nonbranching in art figures:
    o Eden tree/snake
    o Moses’ healing bronze serpent on pole
    o staff of Aesclepius the healer
    o Jason-from-dragon, in front of non-branching laurel tree with sacrificed golden ram fleece, with Athena present (that divine figure has snakes, doesn’t have tree).


    decoding of Rock — The {rock} mytheme wasn’t covered in my main article! When did I post about decoding {rock} = block universe?

    William James calls the Parmenides/Minkowski model of time the “iron block universe”, but ancients described it as a “rock block universe”.

    {tree} wasn’t covered/decoded yet either. ‘branch’ doesn’t appear in the article.


    *Art and* religious mythology describe mental model transformation from the fist innate model, Possibilism, to the second innate model, Eternalism, the latter awaits the entheogen (looosecog) trigger to manifest/develop. (my main article doesn’t just decode myth; it shows art)

    Enlightenment about metaphor, loosecog, fatedness, and noncontrol, is more mentally developed than lacking this gnosis, more durable, exposed to greater breadth of experiential states.

    tree vs. snake = Possibilism vs. Eternalism


    correction: “time pole” -> rigid snake on debranched tree-pole (I knew this was off-base, an unsolved problem of decoding – indeed this was a major decoding, following from the 2013 “branching theory” breakthrough)
    correction: “turned Actaeon into an animal” -> “into a stag with branching antlers”
    correction: 5 mushrooms not 4, in Dionysus victory procession.


    Art: human head on snake. Healing rigid brass snake on pole, staff of Aesclepius, Christ hung on a tree, rock = block universe, snake = worldline.

    Art: snake carved of rock as the medium = control-worldline snake-rail embedded in frozen block universe.

    Image: mystics in purifying fire tended by the purifying angels

    Idea of needing a picture gallery of Eternalism/noncontrol (not a gallery merely of entheogen plants per Brown & Brown, & Ruck).

    The Possibilism vs. Eternalism models of time and control, as contrasted models. More specific than my abstract terms ‘egoic’ vs. ‘transcendent’.


    Two legs/feet/hips = control foundation assumptions; limping, Hephaestos, one-foot; the mushroom “dancing” image (one foot lifted) controverted by Tom Hatsis against Jan Irvin. One foot raised.


    Female = helpless control-thought receiver; male = uncontrollable source of control-thoughts.

    Image: Rebis herm/aphrodite andro/gyne, holding Y.


    Dragon hides in well/spring in cave, demands sacrifice of king’s maiden daughter, lures with sweet smell. Guards treasure.

    Dragon guards treasure, must appease dragon by sacrificing Possibilism-thinking as assumed basis/foundation for personal control power, instead, for mental coherence and stability, must consciously trust (“pray to”) whatever is the uncontrollable creator/controller of your personal snake-rail worldline.

    Ironic branching snakes, ironic nonbranching laurel trees.

    Apollo arrows shoots dragon, wins laurel (non-branching tree) crown of victory.


    Painting: sphinx questioning a hero, king’s crown fallen into chasm.

    Image (W. Esotericism): king in tree, like King Pentheus, and Jesus hung from “tree”.

    gate guarded garden, fleeing from or able to endure/stay, death angel as guard, dragon as guard eg of apples in garden of hesperides, implies snake in garden of Eden as *guarding* the fruit of the tree.


    Possibilism vs. Eternalism model of time and control, moving from a specific, branching model, to an innate specific nonbranching model.

    mental model transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism (eventually permanent when purified, in temporary experiential altered state)

    decoding of branching/nonbranching contrast


    Religious myth as description of: plants (Carl Ruck recognizes), and distinctly, the loose cognitive mode that visionary plants experientially reveal.

    Ruck doesn’t recognize the descriptions of the loose cognitive state itself, resulting from the plants he perceives, and he doesn’t recognize the mythic descriptions of what that loose cognitive, plant-induced state reveals.

    What’s revealed by the state that results from the plants is twofold: the block universe containing frozen worldlines, and cybernetic noncontrol.

    The cognitive effect of visionary plants, which reveals that pair of revelations (Eternalism + Cybernetic noncontrol)


    Covered in main article? Abraham looked up and behind him, saw the ram caught helplessly in the branching bush to sacrifice, instead of proving his ability to override his control, which would destroy his own future.

    The angel-idea stayed Abraham’s hand from cybernetically violating and disproving his “Isaac” child-thinking, granted Abraham the idea of sacrificing the bush-caught ram as a better way of communicating/establishing comprehension of non-control, that permits prosperity, future life with corrected understanding of control that is true, coherent, and durable across both experiential states (tight & loose cognitive binding).


    One of my “myth scene as diagram” posts/analyses of 2010-2013, was the fresco of Pompeii, Villa of the Mysteries. Includes decodings:
    scourging/frenzy/god-maddened = altered-state correction and disproof of Possibilism-thinking. God with whip appears in image of The Madness of Heracles (show).

    Turning to look back behind you to the right = experiencing the feeling of remembering the Eternalism model, of remembering fatedness to undergo ego death, cybernetic panic “frenzy” (god-possessed), and glorious doom and rescue/reset.

    image: ossuary theme: riding without steering, along a path to see a snake on debranched tree trunk.


    Maybe cite my announcement post of ~12/5/2013, and my ~11/23/2011 preliminary version of the “branching-theory” insight.

    — Michael Hoffman
    September 16, 2018
    Group: egodeath Message: 10680 From: egodeath Date: 17/09/2018
    Subject: Re: Duplicate posts
    After reposting about 5 times, the revised post appeared: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/10679
    Group: egodeath Message: 10681 From: egodeath Date: 18/09/2018
    Subject: Discovery date is a set of dates
    Discovery date is a set of dates

    Instead of a single date, I should specify 3 dates for each breakthrough: initial, peak, and follow-up.

    For example, for the tree vs. snake breakthrough:
    1. Initial idea, proposal, or groundwork: posted November 23, 2011.
    2. Peak breakthrough — maximum number of connections added or revised per hour (per Paul Thagard’s model): November 29, 2013 (posted announcement December 1, 2013).
    3. Follow-up, fleshing out the ramifications and corroborations adequately to express the whole scope: sometime by mid-2014.

    When did I decode the most important, #1 mytheme, {snake} as worldline per Minkowski? I have looked up my posting dates before, but re-assess, in terms of:
    1. When I first proposed that {snake} means worldline. (2003??)
    2. When I first firmly asserted that {snake} means worldline.
    3. When I adequately expressed and corroborated the entire principle that {snake} means worldline. This date is problematic, because I made substantial additional connections — to snake vs. tree — November 23, 2011, and then even more adequately, {snake vs. tree = Possibilism vs. Eternalism}, November 29, 2013, which itself, even then, was not a fully adequate elaboration with corroborations of that complex, complete idea.

    A breakthrough is a matter of increasing connections over time. Artificially, we can pick 3 dates:
    1. initial proposal
    2. firm assertion
    3. final proof

    Snake means worldline, frozen in the rock block-universe, as opposed to a king steering in a possibilities branching tree. Even when I fully asserted and elaborated in the 2006 main article that snake means worldline, that falls short of the adequate full completely developed idea; Hellenistic initiates would see I still was lacking in the whole concept, of tree vs. snake, or {king steering in tree, drinks wine, then sees snake embedded in rock}.

    R&D progress in theory-development is complex: increasing knowledge keeps increasing at an uneven pace of revising and adding connections.

    Many elements of insight built up to the mid-2014 full development of the top principle {snake vs. tree = Possibilism vs. Eternalism}.


    Decoding a mytheme is a matter of degree, of strength of connections increasing at an uneven rate over time. That makes it trickier to specify “the” date on which I decoded a mytheme, such as snake, king, wine, tree, or rock.

    An initial correct idea still takes time to fully develop.

    There’s the first few coins of a jackpot, and then after more time, the jackpot in its fullness.

    It takes time from the initial identifying of a decoding, until full decoding of the mytheme.

    When did I decode the mytheme {rock}?
    On November 26, 2012, I casually mentioned rock = spacetime (frozen block universe containing embedded worldlines, implying a kind of cybernetic non-control):
    Subject: Re: The Hammer of Interpretation
    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/6079
    Later, I posted developing that decoding, adding more connections.


    When did I decode the mytheme-contrast {tree vs. snake}?
    On November 23, 2011, I announced decoding tree vs. snake:
    Subject: tree, snake, mshr; tree-wrapped/-climbing serpent
    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/5630

    When did I decode the mytheme-contrast {tree vs. snake} in terms of the two experiential models of time and control, “Possibilism vs. Eternalism”?
    I connected the {tree vs. snake} contrast with the emphatic/systemic contrast between the Possibilism vs. Eternalism models of time, on November 29, 2013, using the Stanford Encyclopedia article “Being and Becoming in Modern Physics” https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/spacetime-bebecome/#PresPossEter

    Subject: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/6340
    December 1, 2013, reporting the discovery of November 29, 2013
    This discovery was corroborated and expanded with more connections during the following months.


    Similarly with decoding {snake}; postings (around 2003?) increasingly assert that {snake} = frozen pre-existing worldline.
    It is hard and misrepresentative to pick a single date, except that that date is specifically the peak date in a set of breakthrough-series dates.

    It’s probably wrong, misleading, to give a single date for a breakthrough. More like identifying the “peak breakthrough” in a set of breakthroughs.

    I experienced “the week of” November 29, 2013 as peaking at November 29, a high peak surrounded by days of great height.

    This is my “mountain range” model of breakthrough, depicting the rate of adding new connections, like in Paul Thagard’s clarification of Thomas Kuhn’s theory of scientific discovery.

    It’s not flat, with an impulse peak jumping up suddenly; it’s a mountain range with peak in middle, a series of peaks.

    A discovery’s “date” is more like an index entry with several page numbers, and a middle page number is bold, meaning “especially here”.

    — Michael Hoffman
    September 18, 2018
    Group: egodeath Message: 10683 From: egodeath Date: 19/09/2018
    Subject: Re: Discovery date is a set of dates
    Contents:

    links to images to add to main article, in an addendum

    date at which I first decoded snake = worldline in block universe (2002 fair, 2004 good)

    {leg/foot/hip} = presumed foundation of personal control power

    mytheme decoded: {snake-bodied child hidden then revealed}

    {human-snake} examples

    ________________________________

    links to images to add to main article, in an addendum

    My posting with links to Yahoo Egodeath group photos library, including the tiny portion of the Eve/snake/stag paining in Campbell; Douris’ Jason kylix, etc.:
    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/7399
    Subject: Photos of tree vs snake diagrams and paintings

    ________________________________

    date at which I first decoded snake = worldline in block universe

    When did I decode, when did I first definitively postulate or assert that snake = worldline? February 20, 2004? I posted rudimentary roots, early versions of the decoding, as early as April 26, 2002.

    It’s a matter of degree, a judgment call, whether I decoded {snake = worldline} on April 26, 2002, or February 20, 2004.

    I feel that as a decoding that’s firmly and clearly proposed, the date of proper discovery is February 20, 2004, with roots back to April 26, 2002, and even with roots definitively back into the mid-1990s where I was literally drawing the worldline as a snake and like a worm.

    By a big stretch, you could say the philosophers of time “know all this”, in that they talk of “spacetime worms” and “worm theory”, where ‘worm’ means worldline in the block universe.

    Philosophers of time uncomprehendingly utter disconnected fragments of wisdom when they talk of “the tree model of time, against the block universe containing worldline worms”.

    They don’t know they are uttering profound religious mythology analogies to the altered=state experiential revelation of block-universe noncontrol of which the Metal poets sing.

    Sam Harris thinks religion is something other than comprehending and experiencing worldline snakes embedded in the rock of the Minkowski block universe, even though Harris writes books against religion, advocating no-free-will, and advocating psychedelics-informed spirituality.


    April 26, 2002, I posted a version of the mytheme decoding {snake = worldline}:
    Subject: Labyrinth, Balaam’s donkey, Golden Ass, Damascus
    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/753
    April 26, 2002
    “A person’s entire worldline of mental constructs is frozen in spacetime like a thread in a marble slab or like a snake frozen in ice — understanding this vividly amounts to the experience of control-death or cyberdeath. That’s the thought that kills the childself.”


    April 27, 2002:
    Subject: Planned topics/themes/puzzles
    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/760
    I wrote:
    “Stiff wavy snake – frozen worldline”


    On February 20, 2004, I suggested {snake} = worldline:
    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/3160
    Subject: Snake referring to visual distortion, turning staff to snake
    February 20, 2004
    “A snake is shaped like a no-choice labyrinth path, like a person’s worldline frozen into the block universe.

    To mentally perceive your frozenness of worldline is like seeing a snake, and may be metaphorized as prophetic viewing of the future or coming inevitable fall of king ego’s kingdom/ kingship.”

    One the one hand, what I wrote is perfect; on the other, it’s the *last* of several interpretations I listed in that post.


    On March 3, 2004, I wrote a version of the {snake = worldline} assertion:
    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/3206
    Subject: Metaphor: Averted gaze. To look is to die.
    March 3, 2004
    “The snake wrapped around the lion-headed figure is the linear worldline of one’s life: the Fates’ thread.”


    The next post in my February 20, 2004 thread is October 29, 2004, and I am still muddling inferior interpretations (toxin) into that key, primary referent (worldline).
    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/3611
    Subject: Snake referring to visual distortion, turning staff to snake
    October 29, 2004
    “Snake and no-choice labyrinth and meander all have similar spatial geometry.

    The snake is wise because it has elixir of death, has rebirth, moves like visual waving distortion, and knows about the 1-D worldline frozen into the heimarmene-ruled block universe.

    When you mentally perceive your experienced life as a 1-D worldline timelessly frozen into the block universe, your sense of open steersmanship dies, like seeing the attractive and deadly gorgon-face of the snake-haired Medusa and being thereby turned to stone.

    Thus the snake is shown wrapped around the heimarmene-ruled celestial globe, or penetrating through it.

    The snake is wise about determinism, but I see the snake as representing attaining the jump from ignorance to fatal awareness of determinism, *not* the second major leap, which is the truly divine leap from awareness of determinism to transcendence of cosmic determinism.”

    ____

    More ideal and mature in terms of theory development to completion/closure, would be the formulation, possible later after I decoded {rock}:
    {snake} = worldline, embedded in {rock} = block universe.

    At later dates, I have more integration/connections among the decoded mythemes, which were previously decoded in isolation.

    The early posts are “correct, so far as they go”, but back then, I didn’t quite say so clearly and emphatically as now, that in world religious mythology, {snake} (the #1 most common mytheme) is an analogy that describes the personal control-agent’s worldline rail frozen in the {rock} block universe, experientially perceived and unveiled in the loose cognitive state.

    {dragon} as monster and treasure-guard, is the fearsome, terrifying aspect of control-loss implied by perceiving the pre-existing control-worldline embedded in the frozen block universe, the peak mystic-state threat, “the shadow”.

    The {dragon-guarded treasure} is enlightenment and mental integrity and cleansing of impure, incoherent thinking that causes control-seizure, control-instability.

    treasure = ability to endure and enter and stay in the loose cognitive state, with mental control stability.

    In 2002, I was drawing connections, but I wasn’t churning out “decodings of mythemes” as such.

    In general, I didn’t yet have such a clear idea of decoding mythemes as analogies describing the cognitive phenomenology of the loose cognitive state.

    The roots of decoding a given mytheme, go way back.

    I literally drew worldlines as snakes, back around 1995 — correct, so far as it goes; but that doesn’t measure up to my later definitive decoding, {snake} = worldline.


    I didn’t *nail* the idea, the decoding, in 1995, or 2002, barely even in 2004, compared to November 29, 2013, or by mid-2014 complete development, with the full manner of expression, of {king steering in tree, wine, then snake embedded in rock}.

    On what date did I first fully grasp the decoding, in a definitive, authoritative way? A decoding *as* a decoding.

    I posted the {snake = worldline} proto-idea several times, over the years, before it became a stark principle, a point-blank decoding as such, around 2004. Even then, it was 9 more years, 2013, before bringing together snake, tree, and rock.

    I decoded {rock} around November 26, 2012 – a similar story of gradual development and clearer realization, as more connections were added throughout the broad explanatory framework.

    ________________________________________

    date of decoding of {leg/foot/hip/sandal} = presumed foundation of personal control power

    That March 3, 2004 paragraph continues with work on decoding a mytheme much more recent like 2016:

    “One leg on ground, one leg up isn’t so much a mushroom allusion; it is first of all the idea that the transcendent psyche stands partly on ego, partly on divine magic air. Thus Jesus’ foot elevated, Mithras’ one foot on the ground, dancing Shiva with one foot on the air, and
    so on. One leg up is readable as magical transcendence of Fate/ heimarmene/ cosmic determinism.”

    That’s the roots of starting to decode; it’s not a proper decoding yet.

    Well-formed decoding: 1st leg = Possibilism-thinking, 2nd leg = Eternalism-thinking.

    My more recent, ~2017 posts on foot = leg = presumed foundation of control, are more well-formed, more on-target than that preliminary proposal of 2004.

    “The” discovery/decoding date is more like 3 dates:
    1. date of first proposal, but maybe not expressed optimally yet; still a little malformed/roughly formed. The historical roots of my eventual full decoding of the mytheme.
    2. date of first clear, proper, correct, well-formed assertion, correct emphasis.
    3. date of final elaboration with corroboration established, with fluent connections to related mythemes.

    ________________________________________

    mytheme decoded: {snake-bodied child hidden then revealed}

    {human-snake} examples

    My February 20, 2004 post also has a passage I kept trying to find, about two sisters hurling themselves from the Acropolis:

    http://www.stoa.org/diotima/essays/garrison_essay.shtml

    That webpage, edited for clarity:

    “The females who commit suicide in a state of madness are Agraulos and Herse, daughters of Cecrops, the half-serpent man.

    When Athena gave to these girls for rearing, the offspring of Hephaestus’ aborted attempt to impregnate Athena, Athena instructed Agraulos and Herse to keep the child Erichthonius hidden in a chest. They failed to heed her warning, and upon seeing the snaky child within, went mad and hurled themselves from the Acropolis. Although the girls’ own father Cecrops was half-snake, the sight of such an infant drove them insane.”


    More examples of human torso on snake body:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Cecrops&tbm=isch

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Erichthonius&tbm=isch

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Echidna+myth&tbm=isch

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Typhon&tbm=isch

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Eve+serpent&tbm=isch
    snake has Eve’s head or torso, or a man’s head or torso

    ketos sea-serpent is spewing out Jonah; two heads visible: serpent’s and Jonah’s
    https://www.google.com/search?q=Jonah+sea+serpent&tbm=isch

    Douris’ Jason/Athena kylix: guard dragon snake is spewing out dead Jason; two heads visible: serpent’s and Jason’s
    https://www.google.com/search?q=Douris+Jason+Athena&tbm=isch


    Human-Snake Hybrids
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hybrid_creatures_in_folklore#Human-Snake_Hybrids
    “A nure-onna as depicted in Sawaki Suushi’s Hyakkai-Zukan
    Echidna – A half-woman and half-snake monster that lives inside a cave.
    Fu Xi – A god said to have been made by Nu Wa.

    Lamia – Like a mermaid but with the lower body like that of a snake and is usually female. wik: “Lamia (/ˈleɪmiə/; Greek: Λάμια), in ancient Greek mythology, was a woman who became a child-eating monster after her children were destroyed by Hera, who learned of her husband Zeus’s trysts with her. Hera also afflicted Lamia with sleeplessness so she would anguish constantly, but Zeus gave her the ability to remove her own eyes.”

    {remove eyes} = return to tight cognition, the ordinary state of consciousness where our snake-shaped control-rail worldline is veiled, not experientially perceived. -mh

    “Zeus provided relief by endowing her with removable eyes. He also gifted her with a shape-shifting ability in the process.”

    {shape-shifting} = mental worldmodel transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism; from {king steering in tree}, to (after {visionary mixed wine/ magic potion}), {snake embedded in rock}. -mh.

    Nü Wa – A woman with the lower body of a serpent in Chinese folklore.
    Ketu – An Asura who has the lower parts of a snake and said to have four arms.
    Nāga – A term referring to human/snake mixes of all kinds.
    Nure-onna – A creature with the head of a woman and body of a snake.”


    What is {that which is hidden and then revealed}?

    Our cybernetic nature as frozen worldlines is hidden, veiled, until made visible by psychedelic mixed wine.

    Our snake-rail nature as control agents bound to stay in our pre-existing rail across time, is normally veiled, hidden, in the tight cognitive binding mode, the ordinary state of consciousness.

    Keep the *child* *hidden*.

    While we think as a child, on the hidden underlying not-yet-perceived level, we are a snake-shaped worldline, unbeknown yet to us.

    When we are initiated, in the psychotomimetic state, we perceive for the first time, that the whole time, we (as control agent) have been a snake-shaped rail embedded in the frozen block universe.

    September 18, 2018
    — Michael Hoffman
    Group: egodeath Message: 10685 From: egodeath Date: 19/09/2018
    Subject: Re: Discovery date is a set of dates
    When did I fully decode {rock = block universe}?

    {tree vs. snake} = {king-in-tree vs. snake-in-rock} = Possibilism vs. Eternalism


    1a. I realized and posted the bare idea in 2004.
    1b. I treat the idea more adequately in the 2006/2007 main article, but it still doesn’t stand out as a major decoding.
    2. On January 10, 2013, clearly I fully get it, that {rock = block universe}, and that this is a major mytheme.
    3. I corroborated how widespread the {rock} mytheme is and thus how major the breakthrough is, on January 13, 2013.

    When did I first write articulate, fluent, clear assertion than the mytheme {rock} is decoded as block universe, and that {rock} is a major mytheme though unrecognized by others as a major thematic puzzle to solve, ubiquitous in religious mythology?

    My main work decoding {rock} and {tree}, to appreciate how major these mythemes are, was after the 2006/2007 main article, in the fecund period 2010-2014.

    But roots of my work decoding {rock} go back to at least 2004, and roots of {tree} decoding, I have yet to adequately trace.

    I imagine that my trajectory or “mountain range” of developing the {snake} decoding is shifted earlier than {rock}, which is shifted earlier than {tree}.


    Clearly in the main article of 2006/2007, I have full appreciation for how major of a decoding it is, that {snake = worldline}. But less appreciation for {rock = block universe}, and little if any appreciation for {tree/branching = Possibilism}.

    Manly Hall’s book “Secret Teachings of the Ages” has a bare mention of psychoactive plants, and maybe a mention of no-free-will, but he’s miles away from grasping the Egodeath theory of ego transcendence and religious mythology as {loose-cognitive block-universe non-control}.

    Sam Harris writes books about religion, about no-free-will, and about psychedelics-influenced spirituality, but he didn’t grasp the Egodeath theory, that religious mythology describes {loose-cognitive block-universe non-control}.


    The historical research remains to be done, to trace my development timeline of the mytheme-decoding {tree = Possibilism}.

    There is a trajectory of development of a decoding, over the years, with first mentions, then firm assertion, then full, articulate, fluent elaboration and connection.

    Per Kuhn, “Revolutionary Science” identifies an explanatory skeletal paradigm framework as a research framework to be filled in by “Normal Science” afterwards. But the revolutionary idea might not by fully recognized as revolutionary when the idea first appears.

    I got pretty far in decoding the {rock} mytheme before realizing and appreciating how revolutionary or major that decoding was, what a major mytheme I had decoded.

    They say Minkowski and Lorentz discovered the Theory of Invariance / Theory of Relativity, without realizing, appreciating, and comprehending it, or without fanfare of selling it as a revolutionary breakthrough.

    Same with {snake}: at first, I merely noted the shape similarity of snake and worldline, without realizing I had decoded the #1 most common, puzzling, mysterious religious mythology mytheme.

    There is a counter-intuitive sequence of first decoding a mytheme, and then some time later, *appreciating* the decoding of the mytheme *as* a decoding of a major mytheme that has a surprisingly great number of connections throughout the domain.


    Correction:
    “I hadn’t decoded the mythemes {tree} or {rock} yet, in the 2007 main article.”

    The main article decodes “stone”, though not the synonym “rock”.

    I didn’t appreciate yet that {rock} is a major, top mytheme throughout myth, the decoding of which constitutes a major decoding, a breakthrough in myth interpretation.

    Only on January 13, 2013, did I finally post a full, adequate treatment of the many, many instances of all forms of rock in myth — that post, stands as the definitive, full, mature assertion with corroboration, of the decoding {rock = block universe} — that’s when it struck me the extent to which rock is a master, unappreciated, key mytheme woven extensively throughout myth.

    ______________________________

    Timeline of posts decoding {rock = block universe}:

    On October 29, 2004, I made bare mention of the idea; the roots of my decoding {rock = block universe} go back much earlier than the 2006/2007 main article, such as bare mention of the idea.

    I separately mentioned snake and “stone”, the elements of the decoding are present together but not tightly connected into {snake = worldline, rock = block universe}:
    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/3611
    Subject: Snake referring to visual distortion, turning staff to snake
    October 29, 2004
    “Snake and no-choice labyrinth and meander all have similar spatial geometry.

    The snake is wise because it has elixir of death, has rebirth, moves like visual waving distortion, and knows about the 1-D worldline frozen into the heimarmene-ruled block universe.

    When you mentally perceive your experienced life as a 1-D worldline timelessly frozen into the block universe, your sense of open steersmanship dies, like seeing the attractive and deadly gorgon-face of the snake-haired Medusa and being thereby turned to stone.”


    My 2006-2007 main article connects stone, altar, and block universe:
    http://egodeath.com/EntheogenTheoryOfReligion.htm
    “The Block Universe and Frozen Worldlines
    … Fixed Worldlines of Subjective Experiencing

    Sacrifice is predestined and frozen into spacetime, comparable to the labyrinth path leading the sacrificial youths to the Minotaur in the central lair every year, and comparable to a city’s festival procession past sacred landmarks to a sacrifice at an altar. When Perseus shows Medusa’s head covered with Heimarmene-snakes to king Polydectes and his followers at the feast with ‘mixed wine’, the king and the other governors are turned into stone, helplessly frozen.”


    On November 26, 2012, I mentioned rock = spacetime (frozen block universe containing embedded worldlines, implying a kind of cybernetic non-control):
    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/6079
    Subject: The Hammer of Interpretation
    November 26, 2012
    “altar = marble slab = rock = spacetime = time = chains = tied up = fastened = bound = … captive”


    On January 10, 2013, I strongly, articulately, and fluently asserted the decoding {rock = block universe}.

    This posting shows that long before November 29, 2013, I posted all the key elements together: king, tree, snake, rock, Possibilism, Eternalism, though I didn’t quite see clearly yet the elegant math formula {tree vs. snake = king-in-tree vs. snake-in-rock = Possibilism vs. Eternalism}:
    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/6274
    Subject: Rock worship & the Rock altar of sacrifice
    January 10, 2013
    “Worshipping toward the black cube of Mecca is acknowledging block universe fatedness and its personal noncontrol implication. The black rock is spacetime fatedness to which we are subject, against our natural animalistic childish thinking in terms of autonomous control power.

    To sacrifice, you must find and gather Rock, to build an altar of block universe divine Rock, and sacrifice the mentally purified, rightly willing victim who repudiates his egoic animal youthful cross-time control claims.

    I claimed to roll, but now in sacrifice on the Rock altar I formally acknowledge that I am a rock.

    At this altar of Rock, I formally acknowledge that I, including all my control thought and stream of intentions, am a product of the block universe. My entire worldline stream of thoughts and experiences, mental constructs, is like a worm-shaped, snake-shaped vein that is frozen in a spacetime marble block controlled by the creator of fate. I am not asserting about holistic determinism, so much as, my ultimate point is, asserting a particular noncontrol.

    I assert Eternalism and brass rigid snaked shaped worldline *because* that forces my real, main point, which is a kind of repudiation of my assumption that I have a certain kind of control power: that type of control power which fits with the Possibilism model of time. I repudiate the “tree”; cybernetic possibility branching not that that is important in itself, but rather because I repudiate *the type and conception of personal control* that *fits with* that model of time and possibility.

    I sacrifice my kingship claim on the tree, my kingship claimed fastened to the tree, hung on the tree. I affirm the snake and its Eternalism Rock altar and that’s not important in itself, but because I affirm the model if personal control that fits with that model. Metaphor’s correct logic, relevant and mathematically perfect: Tree ~= altar of Rock = snake = god-given sacrificial lamb = worldline = ultimately:

    Mental model of personal control power that fits with the Eternalism model of time as opposed to the Possibilism model of time. The important ultimate point for mental regeneration or mental model transformation isn’t what time-model you have, but what control-model you have. Focus on the time-model is not important in itself, but is important insofar as it implies, forces, or phenomenologically coheres with your control-model you hold.”

    The post continues in like fashion.


    On January 13, 2013, I posted the full corroboration, listing many instances of the rock mytheme throughout religious mythology.

    I fully elaborated and corroborated the variants of rock in myth, proving that rock is a master mytheme though that is not appreciated; I recognized that {rock} as a main mytheme to decode is overlooked in myth dictionaries.
    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/6279
    Subject: Rock worship & the Rock altar of sacrifice
    January 13, 2013

    — Michael Hoffman
    September 19, 2018
    Group: egodeath Message: 10702 From: egodeath Date: 20/09/2018
    Subject: Re: Discovery date is a set of dates
    When did I decode the {tree/branching} mytheme? Consider 3 dates:
    1. initial proposal: November 23, 2011
    2. elaborated assertion: November 29, 2013, posted December 2, 2013
    3. complete explanation & corroborating myths/art: mid 2014


    The earliest, initial post of mine with “branching” and “tree” is the familiar November 23, 2011 posting.

    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/5630
    Subject: tree, snake, mshr; tree-wrapped/-climbing serpent
    November 23, 2011
    The post doesn’t mention Possibilism or Eternalism.

    That post is the precursor to the peak November 29, 2013 breakthrough and its December 2, 2013 announcement posting of {tree vs. snake contrast = the Possibilism vs. Eternalism models of time & control}.

    I hadn’t *fully* decoded {tree/branching} in 2011, given that I lacked the *combination* idea, the 2013 compound mytheme {tree/snake = Possibilism/Eternalism}; lacked decoding Staff of Aesclepius and Moses’ healing brass serpent on a pole; lacked the compound mytheme {king-in-tree vs. snake-in-rock}.

    The _Power of Myth_ painting was important because it highlights the theme of branching: Eve’s branching legs, branch in front of them, stag’s antlers behind them: 3 layers of branching at Eve, and she holds onto a branch: 4 branching themes at once.

    The adjacent book, with Jason kylix on the cover, shows a laurel tree with no branching, providing me with a 5th clue that tree/branching vs. snake/nonbranching was a Super-Mytheme to decode, using all my research I had done on those themes throughout myth by late 2013, combined with aggressive, persistent research on “block universe”, like a 4th, insistent pass, “How can people not be talking about the block universe?!” which turned up the badly drawn diagrams at Snodfart’s Junior University: the “tree” model not shown as a tree, next to the snake-shaped worldline.


    I mentioned mushroom-trees with branching stems on October 28, 2005, but not the generalized principle of branching vs. nonbranching; it wasn’t a post about “branching theory”, though it helped lead to the idea. I noticed the issue of branching and nonbranching in mushroom trees: veil ring shown as cut-off branches. I may be a tree, but I’m against branching: laurel shrub & mushroom trees.

    — Michael Hoffman
    September 19, 2018
    Group: egodeath Message: 10705 From: egodeath Date: 01/10/2018
    Subject: Re: Podcast interview with Erik Davis (Expanding Mind)
    Eric Wargo, mythemes describing the 2 models of time

    Erik Davis’ Expanding Mind podcast, episode September 27, 2018 with guest Eric Wargo, discusses Block Universe “determinism” per the Egodeath theory (around the final third).
    https://expandingmind.podbean.com/e/expanding-mind-%E2%80%93-time-loops-092718/
    “In part one of our conversation, author, blogger, and dreamer Eric Wargo talks about uncertainty, determinism, Zen, the evidence for “feeling the future,” and his brilliant and head-spinning book Time Loops: Precognition, Retrocausation, and the Unconscious.”


    The discussion in the podcast comes close to comparing the “open future, branching possibilities” model to a *tree*, or a king steering in a tree, and to comparing the “block-universe with worldlines” model to a *snake*, or a snake embedded in rock.

    The discussion comes close to mentioning the archetypal most-terrifying experience, of perceiving future control-thoughts as frozen in a pre-existing, snake-shaped rail embedded in spacetime with no change, or more exactly, no meta-change.

    Typhon, the father of all monsters, refers to experientially perceiving one’s *Block-Universe Worldline* in the mystic altered state, removing the sense of personal control power: encountering the dragon that guards enlightenment.

    The dragon (a serpent as *the* monster) demands prayer, reconciliation, and sacrifice, which means repudiation of the premise of relying on personal control power steering in a tree into the open future, relying instead, consciously, on pre-given personal control-thoughts that were established by the hidden, uncontrollable creator of the spacetime block.

    The mind retains the original model of time and control, now qualified, and adds a new model of time and control, progressively revealed in the altered state in a series of purifying sessions of “mixed wine”, and eventually retained (conceptually, not experientially) in the ordinary state.

    This model of psychedelics and mixed wine emphasizes the psycholytic, cognitive loosening effect of psychedelics.

    The series of sacred meals given by the god leads to an overwhelming feeling and experience of “remembering” an epic, mythic-scale climactic peak experience of control-seizure realization, forcing a dramatic mental reconfiguration, with sacrifice and rescue, transforming the mental model of personal control power and time.


    There are two models of time (and implicitly, of control) in Philosophy, which are contrasted in mythology, and are experienced in the two states of consciousness:

    o First, the Tree model, called “Possibilism” in the Philosophy of Time, experienced and perceived in the ordinary state of consciousness, which has tight cognitive association binding. More fully, this model is described by analogy as a king steering in a tree.

    o Second, the Snake model, called “Eternalism” in the Philosophy of Time, experienced and perceived in the altered state of consciousness, which has loose cognitive association binding. More fully, this model is described by analogy as a snake frozen embedded in rock.

    The contrast between the initial tree view vs. the later snake view (after initiation into the sacred meals given by the gods), is depicted in Hellenistic and Biblical mythology as a rigid snake on a debranched tree, and other combinations of king or tree, vs. snake or rock, such as:

    Hellenistic religious mythology:
    o The staff of Aesclepius the healer (snake on debranched tree trunk).
    o A snake on a debranched tree trunk (sculpted in rock) on ossuaries (stone coffin, depository for the bones of the dead).
    o A snake on a debranched tree trunk (sculpted in rock) propping up statues.

    Biblical religious mythology:
    o Moses’ healing brass snake on a pole (a tree with the branches cut off), to prevent death by snake bite (that is, restabilizing mental control after ego death that results from perceiving Block-Universe Worldlines).
    o The comparison of king Jesus fastened to wood (“hung on the tree”) to Moses’ brass snake lifted up on a pole, given as a “sign”.


    Mythology describes psychedelics experientially revealing the block universe and no-free-will.

    More generally, listing all the terms in the four key concept-categories:

    {religious mythology, analogy, metaphor}
    describes
    {the altered state, psycholytics, psychedelics, entheogens, psychotomimetics, loose cognitive binding, loose mental construct processing}
    experientially revealing
    {Eternalism, Fatedness, Heimarmene, the block universe, frozen time, determinism, no meta-change}
    and
    {non-control, Cybernetics, control cancellation, self-control seizure, rail of control-thoughts, worldline, no-free-will, no meta-control}.


    ‘Determinism’ is an ok, familiar term for the Minkowski/Parmenides *Block Universe* with embedded pre-existing *Worldlines* of personal control, but ‘determinism’ amounts to a particular narrow theory about *how* it is that the future is pre-set: through domino-chain causality acting from one moment to the next.

    ‘Eternalism’, a less familiar but more relevant term, doesn’t emphasize the supposed domino-chain causal mechanism acting through time, but instead emphasizes timeless pre-existence of the future, especially the most fearsome, destabilizing, and dis-empowering perception, the pre-existence of the future rail of personal control-thoughts, frozen, unavoidable, unchangeable, the snake dragon monster guarding the treasure of enlightenment and mental transformation.


    The Possibilism (tree) and Eternalism (snake) models of time are depicted in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, though without recognition of the archaic mythology contrast {tree vs. snake}, or {king in tree vs. snake in rock}, which I recognized without the Philosophy terms ‘Possibilism’ vs. ‘Eternalism’ on November 23, 2011, and then with those terms on November 29, 2013 (announced December 1, 2013).

    Diagrams:
    The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
    Article: “Being and Becoming in Modern Physics”
    https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/spacetime-bebecome/#PresPossEter

    Subject: tree, snake, mshr; tree-wrapped/-climbing serpent
    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/5630
    November 23, 2011
    Initial decoding of {tree vs. snake} in mythology, though without the terms ‘Possibilism vs. Eternalism’

    Subject: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/6340
    December 1, 2013, reporting the discovery of November 29, 2013
    Announcement of fully decoding {tree vs. snake} in mythology, including the terms ‘Possibilism vs. Eternalism’. Confirmed by decoding various mythemes by mid-2014.


    Expanding Mind podcast
    Episode: Cybernetic Ego-death
    January 28, 2016
    “A talk with renegade religious philosopher Michael Hoffman about entheogens, determinism, and religious experience from an engineering point of view.”
    https://expandingmind.podbean.com/2016/01/
    https://expandingmind.podbean.com/e/expanding-mind-%E2%80%93-cybernetic-ego-death-%E2%80%93-012816/

    — Michael Hoffman
    October 1, 2018
    Group: egodeath Message: 10710 From: egodeath Date: 24/10/2018
    Subject: Myth’s theory of control chaos & restabilization
    Myth’s theory of control chaos & restabilization

    Myth doesn’t prove control chaos & restabilization

    Using mythology to identify and corroborate, but not prove, a specific, standard, traditional theory of how the mind works and develops in reaction to the loose cognitive state


    I have definitely extracted the implicit theory of how the mind works according to religious mythology.


    In the ordinary, tight cognitive state, Possibilism is experienced as the mental model of time and control.

    In the altered, loose cognitive state, the Eternalism model is experienced, with block-universe noncontrol.

    Mental self-control seizure, instability, initially results, as long as the Possibilism model is adhered to within the loosecog state.

    Eventually, the non-viability of the Possibilism model while in the loosecog state, leads to shifting the foundation of reliance for power from personal origination to the uncontrollable block universe.

    Cybernetic testing and observation, probing the vulnerability and dynamics of mental control in the mystic, loose cognitive state, is described in mythic analogy as {trial}, {fire} or {scourging}, which gradually drives and leads to this change of control-foundation reliance.


    The specific dynamic, part of the traditional mythical theory of how the mind works: in the loosecog state, personal control power goes into chaos, control instability that escalates to panic and peak experience — peak panic, peak urgency, peak excitement, peak emotion, peak religious experiencing, peak seizure.

    Cybernetic vulnerability to instability and fatal loss of control is resolved by sacrifice of depending on Possibilism, by repudiating depending on free will personal power according to the Possibilism model of time and control.

    The mind becomes restabilized as soon as the mind shifts reliance per the Eternalism model of time and control, shifting dependency and reliance onto the uncontrollable block universe, putting trust in the hidden uncontrollable controller that has a most-intimate relationship with oneself as controller.

    Prayer is a kind of communication, in god-mode consciousness, between the hidden, higher, beyond-control controller, where the person is forced — by control instability and the threat of control-chaos — to not rely on the system which is seizing (freewill Possibilism-premised personal control power).

    Build the house (personal control power) on rock instead of sand — a stable cybernetic foundation, a new leg/foot/basis/foundation for personal control power, now derived from the hidden uncontrollable source or creator of the personal rail of control-thoughts distributed through time into the future.

    That is the mythological theory of mind and control restabilization, sacrifice of Possibilism-reliance, and prayer for rescue or for a stabilizing declaration of a change of reliance, that was destined.

    The hidden, uncontrollable controller of the rail of control-thoughts is the puppetmaster causing all of the following:

    o The revealing/perceiving of block-universe noncontrol

    o The testing of control

    o The demonstration of chaos/instability potential

    o The sacrifice of the Possibilism premise

    o The adopting of the Eternalism premise

    o The prayer to set in conscious 2-way relationship, the personal control agent and the hidden source of control-thoughts.

    Prayer is initiated by the hidden uncontrollable source of control-thoughts, prayer is a communication from God to mystic, where the mystic is made to be aware of dependence on the hidden controller and acknowledge that dependence.

    That acknowledgement communicates from mystic to God, from the personal control agent (in the trembling peak state) to the hidden uncontrollable source of control-thoughts.


    Mythology’s theory of cybernetics — mythology as 2-state cognitive science with restabilization upon sacrifice and prayer — this model of cognition is not *proved* by mythology, but certainly explains what the cognitive theory expressed by myth is.

    Religious mythology as block-universe noncontrol is a good, informed point of reference: “Control is unstable until the mind is made to jettison the Possibilism premise and be consciously dependent on the uncontrollable source of control thoughts in the block universe with preexisting future rail of control-thoughts.”

    Jonah’s sea-storm, or Jesus’ disciples’ sea-storm, subsides when the prophet renounces personal control origination per Possibilism-thinking, made to sacrifice Possibilism and made to assert Eternalism instead, per encountering the threatening snake-monster worldline helplessly frozen in the block universe, renouncing the king steering in a tree, when the king is perceived as helplessly fastened to the branching possibility tree.

    Is this really how the mind works, per ultimate Loose Cognitive Science? That is not scientifically proved, but this really is the theory of 2-state cybernetics according to religious mythology, the theory which is ultimately conveyed by myth.

    Cognitive dynamics in the mystic state in the late-Modern era generally confirms these dynamics reported in religious mythology.

    The mind, as long as it adheres to the Possibilism model of time and control, is bedeviled by cybernetic instability leading inevitably to tightening of the noose, leading to control-death and failure and panic, untenable loss-of-control in a forced demonstration — opted into by god-mode thinking in the mystic state.

    The mind is forced to demonstrate *untenable* loss-of-control, as long as Possibilism is treated seriously as the foundation which personal control power trusts and relies on.

    According to myth and contemporary experiencing; according to myth’s theory which I have extracted and identified, and as contemporary experience suggests as reported in Rock lyrics and other reports:


    As long as thinking continues to rely on Possibilism, the higher mind continues to put control on trial, continues to put personal control power to the test, and continues to reveal that personal control is subject to disastrous, untenable loss of control.

    When the mind is made to convert from Possibilism to Eternalism, the storm (increasingly heading for doom and cybernetic death and disaster) subsides, and control returns immediately to stability.

    Rely more on Possibilism, experience more vulnerability to loss of control;
    rely more on Eternalism, immediately experience control stability.

    — Michael Hoffman
    October 24, 2018
    Group: egodeath Message: 10713 From: egodeath Date: 30/12/2018
    Subject: Summary statements of Egodeath theory
    Summary statements of Egodeath theory


    🌳🐍 the two experiential models of control and time

    In the ordinary, tight cognitive state, Possibilism is experienced as the mental model of time and control.

    In the altered, loose cognitive state, the Eternalism model is experienced, with block-universe noncontrol.


    Mental self-control seizure, instability, initially results, as long as the Possibilism model is adhered to within the loosecog state.

    Eventually, the non-viability of the Possibilism model while in the loosecog state, leads to shifting the foundation of reliance for power from personal origination to the uncontrollable block universe.

    Cybernetic testing and observation, probing the vulnerability and dynamics of mental control in the mystic, loose cognitive state, is described in mythic analogy as {trial}, {fire} or {scourging}, which gradually drives and leads to this change of control-foundation reliance.


    Everyone begins life demon-possessed, until eucharistic initiation which eventually casts out the bedeviling demon that makes personal control unstable.

    Higher religion describes the experience of being a helpless receiver of control thoughts, puppet of the uncontrollable source of thoughts, subject to the pre-created block-universe worldline.

    High classic tragedy and sacrifice is the revealing and experiencing of the block-universe worldline model of time and control, after the sacred meal.

    Atheistic materialistic no-free-will is like mystic noncontrol and predestination, or pre-existence of thoughts. + experiencing that.

    fear of loss of control of thoughts, in the Holy Spirit – highest terror and glory

    God takes over control of the mind after ingesting the Eucharist; the personal control agent is forced into putting reliance on Creator rather than on the creature’s power of controlling thought.


    r.o. wrote “Religion is an esoteric representation of humanity and civilization. Don’t look at it so basically.”


    Greek myth isn’t morality tales, it is description of the sacred meal bringing an intense experience of frozen block-universe non-control rather than branching tree possibilities – moral agency shift.

    Atheism taken far enough, consistently, leads to religious revelation about veiled no-free-will, and moral agency transformation.

    Hyper-Calvinism: everything is the Creator’s fault.

    alchemical experience of death and rebirth: transformed from the original branching-tree model of time and control, through ingesting sacred food, to the experience of block-universe worldline

    Science solved the Mystery Religion mystery: The sacred food induces experiencing block-universe no-free-will (worldline = snake) rather than the usual branching-tree model of time and control.

    What is sacrificed is reliance on freewill-premised control, upon experiencing the frozen block universe with snake-shaped worldline of personal control, after ingesting divine food.

    High science = high religion: the sacred meal switches the experience and model of time and control, from possibility branching to pre-existing path of no-free-will, described by mythology.

    What is occult and veiled is the block universe with unchangeable, pre-existing, snake-shaped worldline of personal control – revealed by the sacred meal, bringing loose cognitive binding.


    Hermeneutic key unlocking all the mysteries: numinous flesh of Christ 🍄 revealing block universe worldline monster demanding sacrifice🐉, not a king steering with freewill power in a branching tree.

    numinous flesh of Christ 🍄 revealing block universe worldline monster demanding sacrifice🐉


    The mind is able to experience Minkowski’s iron cube universe, including pre-setness and noncontrol, creating religion.

    The eternal value: transcending the premise of egoic control agency wielding the power of steering among possibility branches, through experiencing and perceiving the frozen block universe worldline.

    Ancient Greek mystery religions are now completely figured out and explained, by late-modern science.


    Must sacrifice the freewill premise. What is sacrificed to please the god is the freewill premise, the branching-tree model of time and control.

    Must affirm instead, to restore stable personal control, no-free-will — the snake model of time and control.

    During mental turmoil and testing control instability, god-mode thinking demands repudiation and disavowal of freewill thinking.

    The free will premise is the original sin, which all people are born into.

    The purifying fires burn away, and prove-away through demonstration, freewill thinking.

    When put to the test, freewill model of time and control is a trap, a tightening noose.

    The more that freewill-premised control power is tested, the more control goes unstable.


    dead king hung in a tree causing sacrifice, prayer to the hidden uncontrollable controller of the personal control worldline, and new life born from the rock

    reclining at table with rounds of mixed wine brought by the gods

    The foundation of religions: block universe worldline revealed in the loose cognitive state, producing the second innate model of time and personal control power.

    A theory of religion must be based on experiencing and visionary plants, experiencing and perceiving the block-universe worldline snake explains intense religious experiencing and gives a perspective on moral conduct of life as lower interpretation of religion.


    God is the truth about personal control agency; God is the hidden uncontrollable source of control-thoughts.

    The new revelation is the oldest: tree vs. snake = “freewill branching” vs. “block universe worldline” model of time and personal control power.


    Real ecstasy is the sacrament revealing the block universe worldline snake and noncontrol.

    Religion without the intense altered state is half-developed at best.

    Elaine Pagels contrasted “Orthodox vs. Gnostics”, Freke & Gandy used the terms “Exoteric vs. Esoteric”. Freke wrote about entheogens, ahistoricity of Jesus, and no-free-will.

    Mithras is born from the cyberspacetime rock block universe worldline.


    ancient wisdom 😈👹🐏🐍🐲🐉🌳🍄🍾🍷⛵

    🐄🍄🌳✝🐍

    🐄💩🍄✝

    ⛄🎅🎄🎁✝🚼🍄🦌

    🎅🎄 Happy Yule! 🍄🦌

    🐍🐲🐉🌳

    🎄🎁✝🚼🍄🦌

    — Michael Hoffman
    December 30, 2018
    Group: egodeath Message: 10714 From: egodeath@yahoogroups.com Date: 01/01/2019
    Subject: File – EgodeathGroupCharter.txt
    The Egodeath Yahoo group is a Weblog sent out by Michael Hoffman,
    covering the cybernetic theory of ego death and ego transcendence,
    including:

    o Block-universe determinism/Fatedness, the closed
    and preexisting future, tenseless time, free will as illusory, the
    holographic universe, and predestination and Reformed theology.

    o Cognitive science, mental construct processing, mental models,
    ontological idealism, contemporary metaphysics of the continuant
    self, cybernetic self-control, personal control agency, moral agency,
    and self-government.

    o Zen satori, short-path enlightenment, and Alan Watts;
    transpersonal psychology, Ken Wilber, and integral theory.

    o Entheogens and psychedelic drugs, mystery religions, mythic
    metaphor and allegorical encoding, the mystic altered state, mystic
    and religious experiencing, visionary states, religious rapture, and
    Acid Rock mysticism.

    o Loss of control, self-control seizure, cognitive instability, and
    psychosis and schizophrenia.


    — Michael Hoffman
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath
    http://www.egodeath.com
    Group: egodeath Message: 10715 From: egodeath Date: 04/01/2019
    Subject: Re: Summary statements of Egodeath theory
    He saw something terrifying and died: he saw a snake monster controlling his thoughts.

    garden gate guarded by the angel of death, fruit in the garden guarded by the snake monster unveiled, the unworthy cast themselves out running away in terror back through the gate


    seeing something transcendent that kills the seer

    the classic mytheme of {seeing something transcendent that kills the seer}

    myths about seeing or hearing something captivating, a fatal perception, beautifully attractive and deathly horrific

    Perceiving the normally veiled block-universe worldline snake monster causes death, sacrifice, and rebirth; gives transformed model of time and control.


    classic peak experiential insight leading to prayer and sacrifice of child-thinking, the mind eventually washed as white garments, a helpless superpuppet conscious of ever-dependence on the Creator

    a different innate mode, a different experiential model of time and control, as a puppet frozen in rock rather than a king steering in a tree

    Loose cognitive association binding reveals the experience of block-universe noncontrol and one’s pre-given worldline of control-thoughts forced upon the mind by the hidden uncontrollable controller.


    We are normally unaware that our thoughts depend on the Creator.

    Putting trust in God means becoming aware that our control-thoughts have always secretly come from God; we were always dependent on God.

    The hidden uncontrollable controller created and continues to run all of Creation.

    Hyper-Calvinism: everything is the Creator’s fault.


    Not pointed out enough: the entire descendants of Abraham are through Isaac, and Abraham is willing to obey God’s order to eliminate Isaac therefore eliminate all his promised descendants.

    Abraham’s pseudo-sacrifice of Isaac is myth about sustainability of a nation.

    If a people is to sustain, they must sacrifice the ram, not the child, not damaging personal control agency, but understanding cybernetic transcendence, no-free-will, the block-universe worldline.


    The visionary-state experience is ultimately of timeless pre-setness and noncontrol.

    The visionary-state experience is initially of nondual unity oneness.

    _____________________

    Elements of Egodeath theory connecting to disparate religion positions:

    Christian — Biblical myth, esoteric Christianity

    Atheist — loosecog block universe experiencing discovery that religious experiencing is about source of control

    Pagan — world religious mythology is decoded by the Egodeath theory

    _____________________
    Misc:

    🍄 inspired Rock is the authentic mystery religion of the late-modern era

    Reality breaks through into the matrix virtual reality.

    spiritual dunamis (experience of power overpowered)

    You burn in hell until purified and regenerated.

    redeem Christianity

    Pop Sike Cult is slightly steered off a cliff.

    Metal poetry wrote about the most intense experience, then late-modern Science formalized the experiential discovery.

    — Michael Hoffman
    January 3, 2019
    Group: egodeath Message: 10716 From: egodeath@yahoogroups.com Date: 01/02/2019
    Subject: File – EgodeathGroupCharter.txt
    The Egodeath Yahoo group is a Weblog sent out by Michael Hoffman,
    covering the cybernetic theory of ego death and ego transcendence,
    including:

    o Block-universe determinism/Fatedness, the closed
    and preexisting future, tenseless time, free will as illusory, the
    holographic universe, and predestination and Reformed theology.

    o Cognitive science, mental construct processing, mental models,
    ontological idealism, contemporary metaphysics of the continuant
    self, cybernetic self-control, personal control agency, moral agency,
    and self-government.

    o Zen satori, short-path enlightenment, and Alan Watts;
    transpersonal psychology, Ken Wilber, and integral theory.

    o Entheogens and psychedelic drugs, mystery religions, mythic
    metaphor and allegorical encoding, the mystic altered state, mystic
    and religious experiencing, visionary states, religious rapture, and
    Acid Rock mysticism.

    o Loss of control, self-control seizure, cognitive instability, and
    psychosis and schizophrenia.


    — Michael Hoffman
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath
    http://www.egodeath.com
    Group: egodeath Message: 10717 From: egodeath Date: 18/02/2019
    Subject: Re: Summary statements of Egodeath theory
    12pp/4K words

    _________________________________
    The call to pursue the Greatest Achievements; Exploration and Discovery

    The scientific theory of transcendent knowledge is the intersection of religious mythology, music, mental-model transformation, Physics, experiencing no-free-will, & psychedelic loose cognition.

    Brains that take us to the stars were inspired throughout history by the cognitive loosening effect of visionary plants.

    Intellectual Leaders heed the call to transcendent achievement.

    “We will cure diseases, we will go to the stars, there’ll be nothing that we cannot do”

    The spirit of “going to the stars” means “explore the frontier of consciousness”.

    The Western mind is driven to discovery in new fields, an ambition, duty, and expectation to make the most profound breakthroughs.

    Greco/Roman culture sought not just to journey to the stars, but to journey beyond the sphere of fixed stars.

    The Western mind has a heroic drive to find the greatest achievements, particularly to slay the dragon, which is the altered-state block universe worldline snake monster.


    Science solved the Mystery Religion mystery: The sacred food induces experiencing block-universe no-free-will (worldline = snake) rather than the usual branching-tree model of time and control.

    Exploring the frontiers, discovery in new fields, profound breakthroughs, journey beyond the sphere of fixed stars, greatest achievements, slay the dragon.

    Peak exploration, “going to the stars”, includes consciousness exploration, and decoding religious mythology as description of consciousness exploration.

    _________________________________
    Egodeath Core Theory

    Religious mythology is metaphor describing psychedelic loose cognition revealing noncontrol and the frozen, pre-set block-universe.

    Religious mythology is description of psychedelic loosened cognition experientially revealing noncontrol and block-universe Eternalism.

    Spirituality is the mind’s capability of entering the loose cognitive associative state, to experience the no-free-will, fixed-future model of control and time per Minkowski & Parmenides.


    {perfection} is attainable, per New Testament. {perfection} is esoteric; it means developing the mental model of personal control power and time, in the altered state. removing naive freewill-premised thinking.

    {perfection} means {completion} of the series of mystic-state experiences, to still have freewill-premised thinking but add hidden no-free-will thinking. cleansing mental error about control-power and time.


    Religious mythology is description of psychoactive plants giving experience of one’s worldline frozen into the block universe (Minkowski), leading to revised mental model of control and time.

    The mytheme {sacrificing your son} is metaphor describing repudiating the naive childish freewill-premised way of thinking about control and time.

    Jung and Campbell substitute the dream state of consciousness for what’s really the visionary plant state of consciousness giving intense, mind-changing mystic experience.


    In the intense mystic altered state, is experienced the frozen block-universe model of control and time, perceiving one’s future path as snake-shaped, transforming the mental model of personal control agency.

    Time, in one’s life, is a snake-shaped worldline frozen into the block universe.


    There are two states of human experience: the ordinary state for daily mundane life, and the intense mystic altered state, a crazy trip casting out the demon of freewill-premised thinking.


    “God exists” means we are not in control of our future thoughts and actions, but are puppets of something outside our control.

    The word ‘God’ refers to that which secretly forces our control-thoughts upon us.

    ‘God’ is that which is secretly in control of our thoughts and actions, as revealed by the sacred meal.


    ‘multiverse’ assumes there are multiple really possible futures. The block-universe Eternalism of Parmenides and Minkowski is premised on a single ever-existing future we’re powerless to change.

    Replace exoteric-only Christianity by authentic, 2-layer, New Testament Christianity: exoteric literalism + esoteric metaphorical description of altered-state experiential revelation of control & time.

    Christianity is true and correct, when understood as a 2-layer system: first exoteric literalist ordinary-state freewill moralism, and then additionally, esoteric, metaphorical, altered-state, no-free-will, revised thinking about moral agency culpability.

    The mytheme {garden of Eden} is ironic: actually, the snake’s fruit reveals the secret of no-free-will; the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil loosens cognition actually *removes* the illusion of freewill.

    Ordinary-state theories of mythology fail to address *experience* in the altered state, where religion comes from, contrasted with the ordinary state (literalist religion).

    There are 2 experiential perspectives.

    Exoteric literalist Christianity is only the lower half of Christianity, for not-yet-mature people.

    In the mystic altered state, is the no-free-will experience of being a helpless puppet controlled by a hidden uncontrollable controller.

    The {virgin birth} is an altered-state METAPHOR, a mytheme.

    Choice is not the same as free will. We make choices, that doesn’t mean freewill is real. Our choices are frozen in the future, we discover what we are destined/forced to choose.

    Consider ancient Greek society with Mystery Religion: children & animals = freewill-premised thinkers; initiated adults sacrifice & repudiate their previous freewill-premised thinking about control & time.

    Free will is for children who haven’t been initiated in the series of sacred meals, to produce transformed thinking.

    Saturn eats his children, at the sphere of the fixed stars.

    Is there a *single* future, or, a branching plurality of futures or truly potential futures? The block universe model of time and control has a single ever-existing future.

    The ego is the experience of personal control power moving through time, during daily life in the ordinary state of consciousness.

    The completed perfected monk does not “lack” ego; the monk has added an *additional* alternative perspective, where the ego is recognized to be an illusion of experiential perspective.

    There’s the childish sinful error of freewill-premised thinking — until the Eucharistic fire purifies the mental model of control and time.

    Salvation is preordained, per Calvinism. Against Calvinism, heaven and hell are metaphors, describing intense mystic-state experiencing during revising the mental model of control and time. Those destined to have their mental model revised are {the elect}.

    “Those whom the gods wish to regenerate, they first make mad; ecstatic, frenzied.

    Hell is a myth, a metaphorical description of intense mystic-state experiencing.


    Contrast the nonbranching shape of the snake, vs. the shape of the branching tree.

    The shape of the branching tree (personal control premised on freewill) is contrasted with the shape of the snake (personal control premised on no-free-will).

    The {snake} or {dragon-monster} is the mystic-state experience of the frozen pre-existing worldline of your future control-thoughts, in the block universe per Minkowski & Parmenides.

    The {snake} or {dragon-monster} is the most important mytheme, in world religious mythology.

    The {snake} or {dragon-monster} describes one’s pre-given worldline frozen into the block universe per Minkowski, experienced in the intense mystic altered state.

    The {snake} or {dragon-monster} is one’s frozen, pre-given worldline frozen into the block universe per Minkowski, perceived and experienced in the mystic altered state.

    The mytheme {snake} means worldline frozen into block universe reclining at god’s banquet with “mixed wine”.

    The {snake} is the most common mytheme in world religious mythology because experiencing one’s frozen block universe *worldline* in the loose cognitive state changes the mental model of control & time.

    🌳🐍 The mythemes {tree} and {snake} describe the two experiential models of control and time, based on the shape of the branching tree, and the shape of the linear, non-branching snake.


    The Egodeath theory scientifically explains psychedelic loose cognition in religion.

    Experiencing no-free-will by being brought to ingest the sacred meal repeatedly, leads to changing the mental model of control and time to the block universe model, retaining the initial, freewill model too.

    Psychedelic loose cognition reliably give the experience of frozen block universe containing one’s snake-shaped worldline and non-control — our 2nd mental model of control and time.

    When you perceive the frozen rock block universe, you die as a control agent; death is rock.

    “Mixed wine” in Western Antiquity was mushroom wine, as in the Eucharist and Mystery Religions; the timeless inspiration for high Western culture.

    Mushrooms put the mind into a different experiential mode, showing the alternative, block-universe model of control and time.

    Religious mythology (mainly Western, also World) is description of altered-state block-universe worldline experience.

    The Egodeath theory is a positive theory of how the mind works, and how myth is description of how the mind works.

    Myth describes cognitive phenomenology of the intense altered state of loose cognitive association.

    Forming transcendent knowledge requires combining the intense visionary state with timeless no-free-will ideas — these multiple pieces have to be put together, not just presented each in isolation.

    Theory of religion is altered-state based above all.

    Religious mythology is description of psychedelic loose cognition revealing *experience* — experience of block universe worldline presetness and noncontrol, contrasted with the other, initial model of control and time (branching possibilities with power of steering).


    The mytheme-combinations {a king steering in a tree} and {a snake frozen in rock} are the most direct analogies describing the ordinary-state mental model of self, control, and time (Possibilism) and the altered-state model (Eternalism).

    What’s objectively real is metaphorically described by religious mythology. Religious myth is description of the revealed real.

    “Literalist Ordinary-state Freewill” thinking (exoteric) vs. higher, “Metaphorical Altered-state No-free-will/Noncontrol” thinking (the esoteric layer of religion).

    Ptolemaic astral ascent mysticism was the frame of reference throughout antiquity and the early Modern era, for mystic experiencing and series of initiations.

    The theory of religious mythology and experiential transformation.

    The unenlightened imagine enlightenment, and are disappointed by what enlightenment is.

    There are two distinct systems of morality – exoterics’ conception of personal moral agency culpability, vs. esoterics’ conception in which the Creator is ultimately responsible, as puppetmaster, for all control-thoughts and personal actions.

    In antiquity, children are temporarily misled, but upon initiation, the higher meaning of mythemes was revealed. conceal but then reveal. Not just conceal/mislead.

    Both atheism and fundamentalism are based in the ordinary state of consciousness; gnosticism and mysticism are based in the altered state – New Testament alludes to double-meanings.

    Bible verses about two meanings, secret meaning, understood only by the elect:

    Mark 4:12

    1 Corinthians‬ ‭2:7‬ ‭ESV‬‬‬‬‬‬‬‬‬‬‬‬
    “But we impart a secret and hidden wisdom of God, which God decreed before the ages for our glory.” ‭‭


    The word ‘death’ has two meanings: literal bodily death, vs. mystic-state ego death.

    In religious mythology, any talk of ‘death’ must cover mystic ego death too, or else the result is literalist reductionism, which fails to account for intense religious experiencing.


    The goal in Buddhist religious mythology is to *avoid* and stop reincarnating back into the earthly body again; stop returning to the Possibilism mental model of self, control, and time.

    Buddhist escape from reincarnation is equivalent to the equivalent Christian heaven/hell. The goal is to *avoid* reincarnation.

    Reincarnation was considered undesirable, not good.


    Unless you experience spiritual crucifixion first-hand, you doubt it.

    Doubting Thomas had to experience the wound in the side (an altered-state mytheme).

    Direct intense mystic experiencing characterized Mystery Religion throughout antiquity, including esoteric Christianity and Gnosticism.


    Mythemes, mythological entities exist but not literally.

    {heaven, hell, , demon possession, angels, regeneration, death and rebirth} are metaphorical descriptions of the classic series of mystic-state experiencing.


    Christianity is metaphorical description of the Eucharist-induced altered state changing the experience and model of control and time.

    Be able to withstand esoteric ideas:
    o Jesus was a composite figure, including the mushroom.
    o There’s no free will; the future already exists.
    o Religion comes from visionary plants.

    The mytheme {God} refers to the uncontrollable hidden controller/creator of personal control thoughts.

    Religion is two-level: first exoteric, then esoteric; lower religion then higher religion.

    Forgiveness of the elect occurs through experiencing no-free-will / noncontrol, in the altered state from the Eucharist “mixed wine”.

    The future already exists and the path of control through time is frozen in stone.

    🌳🐍🍄


    Hypercalvinism: everything is the creator’s fault. God is the author of evil.

    The devil is a helpless puppet of God the puppetmaster; God is culpable for the devil’s actions.


    The veiled secret of no-free-will is revealed by the Eucharist, revealing through altered perception and experiencing, the veiled truth about personal control.

    The lower, exoteric layer of religion is free-will premised; the higher, esoteric layer of religion is no-free-will premised. This is a kind of way around contradiction, a kind of compatibilism.

    You are forced to choose the way the Creator made you choose, when the Creator created your worldline rail of control thoughts laid out frozen into the block universe.


    Job was right and righteous: God is the author of evil. Job’s neighbors, unrighteous, with confused preconceptions about the Creator.

    Esoteric religious experiencing, in the intense mystic altered state, experientially reveals a different model of control and time.

    Every brand of religion or interpretation has a kernel of truth. What is the primary meaning, the main referent of religious mythology, regardless of the surface brand of religion.

    Inferior theories of mythology don’t base mythology in the psychedelic loose cognitive state.

    Bad theories of myth fail to account for or address the experiential altered-state dimension, so are reductionist, based in Ordinary State of Consciousness.

    The incorrect theories of religious mythology are based in the mundane, day-to-day, ordinary state of consciousness; they lack intense mystic-state, religious experiencing.

    Religion and mythology without psychedelic loose cognition is reductionist, exoteric-only.

    Real religion has a lower, exoteric layer, and then additionally, a higher, esoteric layer.


    To understand spirituality, understand psychedelic effects on cognition, experiencing frozen block-universe w/ snake-shaped worldline monster demanding sacrifice of the freewill premise, per myth.

    Be a higher-level, esoteric-aware Christian, not an ignorant exoteric literalist Christian with a childish level of understanding.

    Religion has always been informed by visionary plants. Abundant evidence has been gathered.


    People don’t necessarily need first-hand ingesting of the sacred meal.

    Fully recognize the cognitive loosening effects of the ‘mixed wine’: experiencing control and time differently and describing the experience by mythic analogy.

    Ordinary-state based theories of mythology are flimsy and reductionists and irrelevant: for example, “the gods represent historical heroes”, or “myth refers to the sun and planets” is reductionist, only true in a minor, incidental sense.

    The dream theory of myth is off-base, but is correct in placing mythology in a state of consciousness other than the ordinary waking state.

    Mythic symbols describe psychedelically loosened cognition associations, to give the perception of and experienc of block universe noncontrol and pre-setness.

    Psychedelic loose cognition is the common source of mystic experience throughout history.

    Higher, esoteric religionists are allied with lower, exoteric, literalist, ordinary-state-based Christians, but it’s difficult to relate, as a kind of “gnostic”, higher-level, esoteric, metaphorical, mystic-state Christian.

    In antiquity, the stars were thought to be closer, but we could travel beyond the sphere of the fixed stars, through the “hierarchical heavens”, in the ancient altered state-based Ptolemaic astral ascent mysticism.


    Popular Psychedelic Culture is half-truth at best; a dead end, pseudo-transcendence.

    Pop Sike is mainly late 1960s singles made by small labels.

    Popular Psychedelic culture is broader, 20th Century, social engineering.

    Psychedelics conferences promote Pop Sike Cult and are a degenerate dead end, not leading to transcendent knowledge or mental model transformation from the Possibilism to the Eternalism model of self, control, and time.

    Reject & disavow Pop Sike Cult – popular psychedelic culture.


    Loss of the experience of being in control leads to revdising the mental model of control and time, per intense religious experiencing myth describes: hell, flames, trial, regeneration.

    I don’t advocate first-hand use of psychoactives. People should understand what occurs in the mind immersed in psychedelic loose cognitive association.

    Psychedelic loose cognition isn’t inherently degenerate; it can lead to higher mental structuring and multi-state durability, to endure the experience of no-free-will.

    Psychedelic loose cognition was foundational for Greek, Roman, and Christian history.

    Psychedelic loose cognition can be used to weaken or strengthen culture.


    Eating the body of Jesus and drinking the blood of Jesus, or of Dionysus, makes sense if the composite Jesus figure included mushrooms.

    Various miracles and riddles in the New Testament make sense if descriptions of expeirencing no-free-will and discovering the veiled situation of profound dependence on the Creator.


    Jesus didn’t exist as a single historical individual; Jesus is a composite figure, who existed figuratively/mythically in experience.

    Ingesting Jesus is ingesting the sacred meal, mixed wine, the Eucharist.

    The series of sacred meal immersions in loose cognitive association transforms the mental model of self, control, and time.


    Psychedelic loose cognition, to experience the block universe worldline, is the backbone of high civilization throughout history, including manna in the Old Testament, the sacred meal throughout Hellenistic Mystery Religion, and the Eucharist in New Testament Christianity.

    Christian morality does not mean prohibition of mind-revealing plants, except during the initial, childish phase of religious participation.

    Psychoactive mushrooms are the most representative fountain of inspiration of Western religion, including Ancient Near Eastern religion, ancient Greek religion, Hellenistic religion, Roman religion, Jewish religion, New Testament Christianity, and Northern paganism.


    The psychoactive “sacred meal” was the foundation and inspiration of Mystery Religion, the means by which the mental model was profoundly transformed.

    Psychedelic loose cognition isn’t demonic, but casts out the demon that possesses the mind and causes turmoil in the loose cognitive state.

    ‘drugs’ != dark. depends. heaven & hell & transformation.

    Parenting in Greece integrated Mystery Religion initiation, transforming the child into the adult, properly integrating psychedelics into the maturation process in a society with strong families.


    The Egodeath theory supports direct, scientifically explained religious revelation and transformation, free of any arbitrary brand stylization.

    The scientific Egodeath theory is compatible with a parallel particular brand of religious mythology as a particular description and expression, forming a twofold combination of a pure higher-power spirituality distinct from but parallel with (for example) restorationist New Testament Christianity.

    The Egodeath scientific model and the particular brand of religion are mutually supporting, especially with a 2-level version of Christianity (exoteric then additionally esoteric).

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    Christian history

    The King Jesus figure is altered-state metaphor, with modified Roman Imperial ruler cult metaphor.

    Independent primitive churches were later taken over by ruling-class Mithraic “fathers”, leading to top-down Catholicism.

    The Jesus figure is a synthetic composite.


    Edwin Johnson in England around 1895 claimed that none of the caesars ever heard of Jesus or Christianity; that’s how late and retrojected Christian pseudo-history is.

    Jesus is a synthetic composite figure per esotericism, but can support exoteric Christians.

    Atheists are literalists, like fundamentalists (lower, exoteric Christians).

    Ignorant Catholics deny that the “universal church” strategically embraced and co-opted paganism.

    Jesus is a mythic composite figure. Jesus didn’t literally live, nor die.

    Be an esoteric, not literalist, religionist/Christian.

    Christianity is true, when correctly recognized as a 2-layer religion; 2-level Christianity, supported by gospel verses.

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    New Testament Christianity Co-opted the Old Testament

    The Old Testament is attached to the New Testament because old was considered true.

    The new, Christian movement needed a pseudo-historical lineage, so co-opted the Old Testament.

    Christianity is only incidentally Jewish; Christianity is counter-Jewish in ways.

    New Testament Christianity is Jewish themed but is not of Jewish origin.

    Christianity countered and co-opted the Old Testament.

    Primitive Christians stole and commandeered and co-opted the Old Testament to serve as a fake venerable long (pseudo) history for their actually brand new religion.

    People thought old = true/wisdom.

    Christianity stole the Old Testament, to pretend not to be a new religion.

    Old was considered true, so Christians needed a claim to antiquity, and successfully commandeered the Old Testament.

    The original disciples of Jesus (“the Christians”) commandeered the Jews’ scriptures, to deny the truth, that Christianity was a new religion.

    Antiquity held “old = true”, so Christianity had to pretend to be an old religion, so strategically stole, commandeered, and co-opted the Old Testament.

    New Testament Christianity didn’t value the Old Testament in itself, but valued it because the Old Testament provided a (fake, pseudo) validation that their “new” religion was archaic thus true.

    Wouter Hanegraaff is a scientific historian, who differentiates pseudo-history, fake lineage, fake claims to historical antiquity.

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    Reclaiming Transcendent / Ecstatic Dionysus

    Psychedelic loose cognition needs to be incorporated into civilization in the way that strengthens and supports people.

    Take back and reclaim Dionysus, ecstatic religion, music, festivals, technology, electric music, colored lights, and light shows.

    The best psychedelics-inspired art clearly expresses transformation of the mental model, through perception and experiencing, the mind immersed in a series of sacred meal intense altered state sessions.

    Art and music inspired by psychedelic loose cognition is the authentic mystery religion of the late-modern era.

    🎸🎹

    Psychedelics can possibly weaken culture, but we cannot simply negatively value Dionysus.

    High culture specifically needs to co-opt electric music, Dionysus, and visionary plants knowledge.

    Lyrics convey the altered state, describing the classic phenomenology of the loose cognitive experience.

    Good psychedelic inspired music has intelligent descriptions of the altered-state phenomenology.

    Strong Western culture, and cultural roots, requires integrating Dionysus — not just mundane ordinary-state-based daily family life.

    Greeks had family and sacred meal mystery religion.

    Lyrics that are inspired by psychedelic loose cognition are authentic.

    Uninspired music has no no sacred meal, no Bacchus; it is mundane, based only in the ordinary state.

    Uninspired means not inspired by psychedelic loose cognition; there’s nothing of Dionysus in it

    You can’t extract the transcendent truth out of Pop Sike Cult, because Pop Sike Cult fails to include transcendent truth: esoteric, altered-state based, capturing and explaining the frozen block universe worldline experience.

    The mysteries of the universe are the revealed mysteries of the source of personal control across time, expressed in psychedelic music.


    Psychedelic loose cognitive music and art is the authentic mystery religion of the late-modern era.

    Transcendent music describes experiencing loose cognitive, nonbranching, block-universe worldline Eternalism.

    Commandeer the fruits of unbound, loosened culture, and reevaluate valuation of them, the products of Dionysus.

    Psychedelic loose cognition is not all bad or all good, not inherently debasing or degenerate.

    It depends on use, as the Greeks and Romans, Jews and Christians put the sacred meal to use in strengthening people to endure a direct experience of profound dependence on the Creator.

    Reaching the transcendent potentials of the mind requires music, Dionysus, entertainment, culture, light shows, integrated healthily into culture, bringing Dionysus Mystery Religion to the family and society, like in Greek antiquity.

    Everyone is born in a state of Original Degeneracy, unable to withstand an encounter with God-consciousness.

    Some minds — the Elect — are destined to turn, see the truth, revise their mental model, and their sin be forgiven, their mental error about personal moral control agency corrected.


    There needs to be a vent for decadence and playful exploration.

    We must reevaluate all cultural values.

    Don’t allow the products of decadence to be controlled and owned by the decadent.


    Culture must have space for Dionysus and transgression, or else people go looking for authenticity outside the culture.

    Psychedelics-inspired music connects with Mystery Religion cultural roots.

    Authentic psychedelics-inspired lyrics.

    Music inspired by psychedelic loose cognition is the authentic mystery religion of the late-modern era.

    The best altered-state inspired lyrics are classic, hearkening back to Greek myth, conveying timeless peak profundity.

    The Egodeath theory redeems and transforms Pop Sike Cult.


    Moralist Christianity considers all of popular culture to be Satan’s realm, disavowing it all, including Christian music. Popular culture is all “the world”, and we should “reject the world”.


    Culture must have space for Dionysus and transgression, or else will project authenticity outside the culture, and look for transcendence and authenticity outside the culture.

    Dionysus has a big place in Western culture.

    Embrace in a healthy strong family culture: electric music, movies that describe experiencing block-universe eternalism, and light shows.
    Group: egodeath Message: 10719 From: egodeath@yahoogroups.com Date: 01/03/2019
    Subject: File – EgodeathGroupCharter.txt
    The Egodeath Yahoo group is a Weblog sent out by Michael Hoffman,
    covering the cybernetic theory of ego death and ego transcendence,
    including:

    o Block-universe determinism/Fatedness, the closed
    and preexisting future, tenseless time, free will as illusory, the
    holographic universe, and predestination and Reformed theology.

    o Cognitive science, mental construct processing, mental models,
    ontological idealism, contemporary metaphysics of the continuant
    self, cybernetic self-control, personal control agency, moral agency,
    and self-government.

    o Zen satori, short-path enlightenment, and Alan Watts;
    transpersonal psychology, Ken Wilber, and integral theory.

    o Entheogens and psychedelic drugs, mystery religions, mythic
    metaphor and allegorical encoding, the mystic altered state, mystic
    and religious experiencing, visionary states, religious rapture, and
    Acid Rock mysticism.

    o Loss of control, self-control seizure, cognitive instability, and
    psychosis and schizophrenia.


    — Michael Hoffman
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath
    http://www.egodeath.com
    Group: egodeath Message: 10720 From: egodeath@yahoogroups.com Date: 01/04/2019
    Subject: File – EgodeathGroupCharter.txt
    The Egodeath Yahoo group is a Weblog sent out by Michael Hoffman,
    covering the cybernetic theory of ego death and ego transcendence,
    including:

    o Block-universe determinism/Fatedness, the closed
    and preexisting future, tenseless time, free will as illusory, the
    holographic universe, and predestination and Reformed theology.

    o Cognitive science, mental construct processing, mental models,
    ontological idealism, contemporary metaphysics of the continuant
    self, cybernetic self-control, personal control agency, moral agency,
    and self-government.

    o Zen satori, short-path enlightenment, and Alan Watts;
    transpersonal psychology, Ken Wilber, and integral theory.

    o Entheogens and psychedelic drugs, mystery religions, mythic
    metaphor and allegorical encoding, the mystic altered state, mystic
    and religious experiencing, visionary states, religious rapture, and
    Acid Rock mysticism.

    o Loss of control, self-control seizure, cognitive instability, and
    psychosis and schizophrenia.


    — Michael Hoffman
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath
    http://www.egodeath.com
    Group: egodeath Message: 10721 From: egodeath@yahoogroups.com Date: 01/05/2019
    Subject: File – EgodeathGroupCharter.txt
    The Egodeath Yahoo group is a Weblog sent out by Michael Hoffman,
    covering the cybernetic theory of ego death and ego transcendence,
    including:

    o Block-universe determinism/Fatedness, the closed
    and preexisting future, tenseless time, free will as illusory, the
    holographic universe, and predestination and Reformed theology.

    o Cognitive science, mental construct processing, mental models,
    ontological idealism, contemporary metaphysics of the continuant
    self, cybernetic self-control, personal control agency, moral agency,
    and self-government.

    o Zen satori, short-path enlightenment, and Alan Watts;
    transpersonal psychology, Ken Wilber, and integral theory.

    o Entheogens and psychedelic drugs, mystery religions, mythic
    metaphor and allegorical encoding, the mystic altered state, mystic
    and religious experiencing, visionary states, religious rapture, and
    Acid Rock mysticism.

    o Loss of control, self-control seizure, cognitive instability, and
    psychosis and schizophrenia.


    — Michael Hoffman
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath
    http://www.egodeath.com
    Group: egodeath Message: 10723 From: egodeath Date: 05/05/2019
    Subject: Re: Summary statements of Egodeath theory
    The Egodeath theory is the “analogy/ psychedelics/ block-universe/ noncontrol” theory of religious experiencing, religious mythology, and mental model transformation.

    o analogy/metaphor/description
    … describes
    o psychedelics/entheogens/sacred meal/Eucharist
    … revealing experience and perception of
    o block universe/ snake-shaped worldline/ timelessness/ frozen time/ preexisting future thoughts
    … and
    o no-free-will, non-control, puppethood, control-thoughts forced upon you, loss of sense of wielding personal control power

    The Egodeath theory provides direct, plain, straight-talking summary statements providing uncensored, non-euphemistic summaries of the analogy/ psychedelics/ block-universe worldlines/ noncontrol” theory of religious mental model transformation.


    In the ordinary state of consciousness, the mind experiences time and control as a king-like autonomous control agent that wields personal control while steering through branching possibilities.

    In the psychedelic sacred meal state of consciousness, with loose cognitive association enabling mental restructuring, the mind experiences time and control as a snake-shaped, pre-given path of control-thoughts frozen in time, frozen in a space-time block universe; experiencing timeless non-control, no-free-will, and monopossibility.


    The Eleusinian mysteries are explained the same as all Hellenistic mystery religions.

    The kykeon is the same as the Eucharist and the sacred meal.

    In mystery religion, religious mythology describes repeatedly ingesting the sacred meal, giving the mystic-state experience of timeless no-free-will, eventually directing the mind to create and add an alternate mental model of time and personal control.
    Group: egodeath Message: 10725 From: egodeath Date: 06/05/2019
    Subject: Re: Summary statements of Egodeath theory
    A coherent version of Compatibilism:

    In the ordinary state of consciousness, we experience freewill-based control power, the ability to steer among branching possibilities, into an open, non-existing future.

    In the altered state from the sacred meal, we experience no-free-will.

    The mind has the potential to experience both freewill and no-free-will.

    The ultimate experience is the mystic-state experiential revelation of no-free-will and helpless dependence on pre-existing control thoughts.
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    In the mystic altered state from the sacred meal, the mental model and experiential mode is transformed to reveal the veiled nature of frozen time and pre-set control.

    The Egodeath theory clearly, openly reveals the veiled Mysteries for the world.

    Mythology describes the sacred meal revealing veiled no-free-will, a different mental model that is innate in the mind.

    The ultimate truth stems from timeless natural order.
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    The ‘church’ means the collection of individuals who are destined for salvation/ redemption/ awakening to higher reality.

    Christianity is one description of esoteric truth, about how the mind works in the mystic state after the sacred meal, combined with a certain social-political & mundane moral-conduct system.
    _________________

    The mind has interesting potential in multiple states of consciousness including from the Eucharist that transforms thinking about personal control power and time.

    A mind can lack or have firsthand experience of the intense altered state.

    A mind can lack or have the understanding of what is revealed in the mystic altered state; understanding the two experiential mental models of possibility branching, time, and control, and the dynamics of switching to the later, second innate mode of experiencing and the second mental model of time and control.

    The strongest understanding combines firsthand experience with full conceptual understanding as in the Egodeath theory.

    There can be largely full understanding with 2nd-hand understanding of first-hand experiencing.
    _________________

    Dionysus is a major elevated component of high civilization.

    Esoteric mysticism is simple to rationally explain as metaphor or analogy describing the psychedelic sacred meal-induced experience of frozen-time noncontrol, no-free-will, and monopossibility.

    The future already exists set in stone.

    In the mystic state experience, the mind is conscious of being helplessly dependent on the external creator of control thoughts.

    A person’s future control-thoughts laid out in spacetime like a snake frozen in rock.

    Mind metaprogramming is psychedelic self-help, in which you run into the limit of control and autonomous self-creation – the classic revelation of the snake frozen in rock, with personal control experienced as being profoundly dependent on the god-level.

    The worldline snake of personal control thoughts, that is frozen without autonomous control in the Minkowski block universe, is the ultimate heroic resulting vision when you reprogram thinking.
    _________________

    The ‘church’ is the set of people who at least understand, and possibly also experience, psychedelic block-universe no-free-will — the complete set of people across time and place.

    The mind relates directly to God in terms of control, the ultimate source of personal control.

    The veiled source of control-thoughts is revealed in the Eucharist-induced numinous ecstatic state.
    _________________

    The Eucharistic sacred meal was mushrooms, the flesh of Christ, bringing the experience and vision of no-free-will and utter dependence on pre-set thoughts.

    Against lower, exoteric Christianity, Jesus is a figure and a mushroom sent to us by God in the likeness of human flesh, revealing no-free-will & non-control, perceiving control-thoughts as pre-set, given to us from a hidden uncontrollable source.

    Jesus is the sacred meal sent to us by God in the likeness of human flesh, that sacrifices the initial mental model of time, self, and control.
    _________________

    Religions borrow; they are equivalent, they each have a lower, exoteric, literalist level and a higher, esoteric level, and some content on the mundane, daily social-political level.
    _________________

    No-free-will experiencing is partly bad, or a sacrifice, insofar as it entails the death of the usual experiential identity, as the price of gaining a revised mental model of time and control.

    The sacred meal brings the power of the Holy Spirit, including the loss of the normal experience of control.
    _________________

    Cultural Christians adopt exotic alien foreign religion of Buddhism. If you go running after other cultures’ religions, you fail to understand any culture’s religion; you fail to understand esoteric, higher-level religion.
    _________________

    Miracles are rational and metaphorical, not literal.

    Miracles are taken literally by those on the outside; miracles are recognized as metaphorical description of the Eucharistic altered state by those on the inside.

    Religion in its lower form is irrational; religion in its higher form or mode or layer is metaphorical — metaphorical description of the non-ordinary state of experiencing, from the sacred meal.
    _________________

    Sacred (vs. profane) music reflects sacrificing one’s childish, inexperienced premise of freewill thinking and possibility branching into a supposedly open future.

    High art, high poetry, describes the higher level of experiencing, in the transformative altered state.

    The debased, mundane, lower level of art and poetry reflects the mundane, daily life, ordinary state of consciousness.

    Real poetry and art describes mystic revelation, not mundane ordinary-state experiencing in daily life.
    _________________

    Exoteric literalists = the lower level of religion, of outsiders.

    Esoteric insiders = the higher level of religion, of those on the inside.
    _________________

    Salvation in the mystic state is a real phenomenon, but everything depends on definitions.
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    At the time of a person’s mystic ego death, Hell is the futility, the state of being under condemnation, while trying to retain stable control based on unstable childish delusion.

    There is literal hell or heaven for lower, exoteric thinking.

    For lower, exoteric religion, the freewill agent is punished in hell or rewarded in heaven.

    For higher, esoteric religion, hell is the corrective non-control, no-free-will mystic-state experience from the Eucharist sacred meal; heaven is the positive experiencing of dependence and unity.

    The mystic altered state is the experience of block-universe no-free-will, with one’s stream of thoughts perceived as a snake-shaped worldline frozen in the spacetime rock, per Minkowski & Parmenides.
    _________________

    Christianity is a resource to be revised and corrected, to give a people life and durability.

    Christianity isn’t something given as-is; own and control and forcefully define Christianity and set it aright.
    _________________

    The tree and the snake 🌳🐍 are the two fundamental contrasting models of control and time, based on the key idea of possibility branching or non-branching as the control-agent moves into the future while wielding the power of steering and thus creating the future, where the future was purportedly undefined and nonexistent.

    Ingesting the sacred meal is not necessary, for a strong degree of mental model transformation.

    Religious revelation about time & control can be explained simply and straightforwardly.

    People who only experience the ordinary state *can* understand the analogy, how religious mythology describes by analogies the transformation of experiential mode and of the mental model of time and control.

    The Egodeath theory explains how the normal mind normally, typically works when initially only exposed to the ordinary state of consciousness, and then repeatedly exposed to the altered state.

    A few people can do non-drug-based meditation to experience the intense mystic state, but that is not the traditional, normal, reliable, repeatable, achievable way.

    Anyone can intellectually understand the theory of mental model transformation without needing the altered state (regardless of whether the mystic altered state is accessed via psychedelics).

    ‘Knowing god’ means understanding that personal control doesn’t actually come from the person, but from the Creator.

    The person helplessly receives their control thoughts from God, where ‘God’ refers to the hidden, uncontrollable source of control.

    The snake is the #1 mytheme in world mythology, becasue experiencing the personal control worldline frozen into the block universe is the peak religious experience from the sacred meal.

    The shape of the branching tree is the mind’s initial incorrect model of time and control. In contrast, the snake is the shape of the worldline of personal control-thoughts frozen in the block universe.

    If you are among the elect, the snake describes fatedness to bring the Eucharist 🍄 to you repeatedly, the “fire” that eventually revises your mental model of time and control, by revealing and exposing and disproving the intial model of control, putting it to the test.
    _________________

    An esoteric Christian is counted among the elect, as a pre-determined member of “those on the inside”.

    The sacred garden, and Heaven, have a ‘death’-gate; in the garden is the snake vs. tree contrast.

    The snake brings the Elect the fruit that makes you die as a control agency model, but not die as a viable agent with a mind and body.

    The snake vs. tree in the gated garden is metaphorical description of the altered-state experiential revelation of time and control.

    The 4D block universe with personal noncontrol is experienced in the Holy Spirit mystic state after ingesting the Eucharistic sacred meal.

    An initiate is a person whose mind has been mentally immersed in multiple sessions to revise mental model by loosened-mind experience.

    Learning the Egodeath theory — the analogy/ psychedelic/ block-universe/ no-free-will model of religious mythology — only in the ordinary, tight-binding state of consciousness produces understanding, though such a person isn’t properly an “initiate”.
    _________________

    Spacetime containing personal control is a frozen spacetime block (Minkowski & Parmenides) containing the embedded personal worldline of control-thoughts.

    An Old Testament passage speaks of the 4-dimensional block universe with length & width & breadth & depth.

    Mature initiates can bear the revealed knowledge of 4D control-space-time.

    Non-initiates die ego death upon {seeing the face of God} and {pronouncing the tetragrammaton}.

    The initial control-agent model will necessarily die, become unstable and non-viable as a basis (foot/leg/foundation) for control, upon identifying, expeirencing, and perceiving the unveiled underlying reality of the 4D block universe and its pre-existing frozen worldline of personal control.
    _________________

    A version of Christianity that ends personal viable life and control upon enlightenment or unveiling of the truth about time and control power, is not actual Christianity.

    “Christianity” that ends viable personal control would contradict the promise to Abraham to have many offspring.
    _________________

    Enlightenment or regeneration or salvation through experience of the Holy Spirit applies to any human mind.

    Higher-level, *esoteric* Spaghetti Monster Pastafarianism is by definition true and profound: ingesting the noodle given by the noodel-monster-god means experiencing the snake-shaped worldline frozen in the block universe with noncontrol and pre-set future control-thoughts.

    Mormonism started with Datura (scopalamine) esotericism.

    All religions have lower exoteric and then higher esoteric layers; childish then adult/mature/transformed levels.

    Esoteric higher religion, religious mythology, describes the intense mystic altered state, which causes mental model transformation.

    ‘The exotericists’ is a funny phrase/term, a lofty word for clueless literalists/outsiders/ spiritual infants.

    Euhemerism is an exoteric, non-experiential approach to the interpretation of mythology, in which mythological accounts are presumed to have originated from real historical events or personages.

    Most interpretation of religion is based in the assumed ordinary state of consciousness; ordinary-state interpretation of religion fails to be based in mystic-state *experience*, so it is reductionist; lower layer of religion, only; held by “those on the outside”.
    _________________

    Gnostic thought in its higher level is based in the intense mystic altered-state experience that results from ingesting sacred food and drink, same as all higher-level, esoteric religion.

    Newage, Buddhism, and Christianity have lower, exoteric and higher, esoteric levels.

    In the Bible, there are two levels of understanding: that of children, that of mature adult initiates (those on the inside, the elect).

    The esoteric layer of religion is the Faustian pursuit of transformation of the mental model of time and control.
    _________________

    Whenever you say ‘death’ and ‘sin’, ‘death’ esoterically means the mystic-state ego-death experience of no-free-will, not literal bodily death.
    _________________

    Magic, gnosticism, and occluded knowledge revealed only to some:

    {Magic} is metaphor for mystic-state experience that causes mental model change.

    Give us a {sign} means give a metaphorical description of mystic experiencing and revelation of mental model of time and control.

    Jesus is a magician casting out demons, but not by complex actions: Jesus simply commands “leave” and they leave; he doesn’t command them to provide a lover, for example; Jesus only commands the demon to leave permanently and not return.

    Jesus’ magic and signs and miracles are good. It’s not a matter of “bible vs. occult/magic/esotericism” or “Our Biblical esotericism is valid, their esotericism is invalid”.

    Those on the inside recognize magic as metaphor, non-literal double-meaning that serves to describe the mind-transforming, sacred meal-induced mystic state of consciousness.

    If you remove magic from religion, that’s literalist incomprehension.

    {magic} = {signs} = metaphorical description of the dimension of non-ordinary experience resulting from the sacred meal given by the god.

    If you Believe, as one of the elect, you will do the magic Jesus did, and more, says the Jesus figure.

    Cryptography = magic = metaphors; non-literal; describing the nonordinary state of experiencing.

    Esotericism, nonliteralism, and magic are metaphors describing experiencing in the mystic loose cognitive state.

    _________________

    Occluded knowledge revealed only to some:

    Religious mythology is metaphorical description, not nonsense.

    To declare religious mythology as “nonsense” is merely to demonstrate one’s lack of understanding, lack of recognition of how myth describes the experience of block-universe no-free-will and mental model transformation.

    The New Testament includes occluded, hidden-then-revealed, veiled knowledge. Paul: At first, we see darkly, in an obscured way, as in a mirror made from polished metal.

    Jesus in the New Testament advocates occult meaning, knowledge, symbolism: “A sign: I will be lifted up like Moses’ healing snake”, such as Mark 4:12.

    The Gospel of John and of Mark: the New Testament says that there is insiders’ knowledge that is not revealed to “those who are on the outside”.

    The Bible talks of selectively revealed knowledge that is held only by those on the inside, inside the gated garden containing the tree vs. snake and the sacred meal that is brought only to the elect, by the healing snake.

    Lower, exoteric religionists are blinded to the passages which assert that truth is veiled and is only revealed to the Elect.
    _________________

    Schizophrenia is loose cognitive association, verbal salad, jumping all over, a puppet mystic consciousness breaking in, and hearing voices including command voices.

    The illusory and provisional ‘self’ is a freewill-premised king-like agent steering in a branching possibility tree.

    The real, lasting self is no-free-will premised snake-shaped worldline frozen in the spacetime rock block universe.

    The potent, numinous, overpowering Holy Spirit is the highest, most awesome, and most deeply mind-changing experience a person can have.
    Group: egodeath Message: 10726 From: egodeath Date: 06/05/2019
    Subject: Re: Summary statements of Egodeath theory
    post 10725 has more than a few corrections and clarifications, gathered ‘magic’ statements.
    Group: egodeath Message: 10727 From: egodeath Date: 06/05/2019
    Subject: 2 scopes of explanation & explanandum
    2 scopes of explanation & explanandum

    The Foo theory of Bar
    The two scopes of explanation & explanandum in the Egodeath theory

    Quadrant diagram with

    2 explanation scopes on the left,
    2 explanandum scopes on the right:

    lower half is my 1985-1988 Phase 1 theory, of mental model transformation;
    upper half is my 2001-2013 theory of religious mythology.


    Lower left:
    The psychedelics/ block-universe/ no-free-will theory of…

    Lower right:
    Transcendent Knowledge and mental model transformation about time and control across the two states of consciousness

    Upper left:
    The *analogy*/ psychedelics/ block-universe/ no-free-will theory of…

    Upper right:
    Religious mythology


    A clear cut aspect is that if I include analogy on the left, I also include religious mythology on the right. This gives 2 scopes of saying the Foo theory of Bar:

    The psychedelics/ block-universe/ no-free-will theory of Transcendent Knowledge and mental model transformation about time and control across the two states of consciousness

    The analogy/ psychedelics/ block-universe/ no-free-will theory of religious mythology

    A nice 2-part breakout is:

    1)The psychedelics/ block-universe/ no-free-will theory of Transcendent Knowledge and mental model transformation about time and control across the two states of consciousness, and 2) the analogy theory of religious mythology

    The Egodeath theory is not only a theory explaining religious mythology; it is a theory discovering and explaining the transformation of the mental model of time and control.

    In 1988, the Egodeath theory was a correction/replacement of the Wilber/JTP theory of what Transcendent Knowledge is about.

    In 2001, I added a correction/replacement of Wilber’s theory of interpreting the snake in _Up from Eden_ — religious mythology.


    The Egodeath theory is a theory of how these key components (A-H) relate:

    analogy
    psychedelics
    block universe
    no-free-will

    religious mythology
    Transcendent Knowledge
    cross-time personal control
    transformation of the mental model of control and time

    In total, the Egodeath theory is the ABCD theory of EFGH.

    Regarding Cog Sci, the Egodeath theory is the BCD theory of FGH (omitting A, analogy and E, religious experiencing).
    Group: egodeath Message: 10728 From: egodeath Date: 06/05/2019
    Subject: Re: 2 scopes of explanation & explanandum
    The CogSci and religious mythology portions of the Theory are distinct and mutually reinforcing.
    Group: egodeath Message: 10729 From: egodeath Date: 09/05/2019
    Subject: Denver initiative I-301
    If the vote results are certified a week in the future, Denver joins the block universe, experiencing numinous tremendous awe in the no-free-will state of consciousness, revealing the ordinarily hidden situation of profound dependence on the hidden, uncontrollable source of control-thoughts, with the rail of future control-thoughts frozen inalterably in spacetime, only waiting to be discovered.


    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/topics/4254
    There are changes
    Lyin’ ahead in every road
    And there are new thoughts
    Ready and waiting to explode
    When tomorrow is today
    The bells may toll for some
    But nothing can change the shape of things to come
    Group: egodeath Message: 10730 From: egodeath Date: 16/05/2019
    Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
    Transcendent Knowledge Podcast, episode 12 – perennialism, psychedelia and ego death theory

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xve1Ic1x4-Q
    Max Freakout with Kafei.

    Topics:

    Popular atheist thinking

    atheist attitudes to psychedelic tripping

    Terence Mckenna’s ideas

    belief-based religion vs experience-based religion

    the Neoplatonist philosopher Hypatia

    her perennialist thinking and her gruesome death at the hands of Christians

    modern Christian attitudes towards mystical and psychedelic experiences

    the possibility of tripping without taking drugs

    literal and non-literal interpretations of the crucifixion of Jesus

    historicity and ahistoricity

    interpretation of mystical writing

    the writing of Vladimir Lossky

    higher truth embedded in religious scripture

    universality of mystical experience

    the meaning of Christianity and being a christian
    Group: egodeath Message: 10731 From: egodeath Date: 16/05/2019
    Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast commentary
    Group: egodeath Message: 10732 From: egodeath Date: 16/05/2019
    Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
    Group: egodeath Message: 10733 From: egodeath Date: 16/05/2019
    Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast commentary
    One of the stories in the bible library is that Jesus was still alive when removed from the cross, as evidenced by water and blood *flowing* from his side.  The Swoon Theory of the resurrection [story].

    For the Egodeath theory, the historicity of religious founder figures is non-essential.

    Historicity is relevant in discussing metaphors and analogy.  Bracket-off the question of historicity, to do a full investigation of the range of interpretations. 

    After recovering all possible meanings, we can then allow back in the Historicity question: 

    Was there a single, identifiable, founder figure, without whom Christianity wouldn’t have started?
    Group: egodeath Message: 10734 From: egodeath Date: 19/05/2019
    Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast commentary
    Around 12:00-17:00 

    My posts against the overemphasis on Epistemology and Ontology, advocating for Phenomenology instead:

    I am interested in the guest’s interaction with atheists. I experienced that recently with a Pop Sike book author, who carelessly dismissed interaction with me because I am interested in explaining religion, but he is sheerly “against religion”.

    Since I am not dismissive of religion, he thinks my analysis is anathema.  I am pro-religion in his eyes, and therefore he doesn’t want to know more about my analysis, despite my feedback on his book draft before he finished his book, and despite his asking people to help explain his asc experience.

    When I provided explanation, he didn’t read it, because my explanation isn’t anti-religious.  He contradicts himself — a common trait of atheists who both ask for explanation of religion, and dismiss explanation of religion because such explanation isn’t anti-religion.  Incoherent, defeatist, self-contradictory.

    It is hard to critique such a rejection of any rational explanation of religion, because the critique is incoherent and self-contradictory.  “How dare you assert that religion is rationally explicable; that amounts to saying that the irrational is rational.”

    Scorched-earth atheists are closed-minded toward the very claim of “a rational explanation of religion” — that’s a contradiction in terms, for their presumptions.  They are a-priori committed to the dichotomy “Science/rationality vs. Religion”.  Perish the thought, “a rational explanation of religion”.


    Another reason to dismiss the Theory is “I don’t like no-free-will.  It’s an unpleasant idea.”  That dislike can be seen as a corroboration of the numinous experience of dread, shock, amazement.

    Those two refusals are interesting examples of the idea that “no one actually rejects the Theory”, they refuse to learn it or hear it, or they reject a misunderstood or misrepresented notion of what the theory is, of what they assume the Theory must be.

    The Theory is the Analogy/ Psychedelics/ Block Universe/ No-Free-Will theory of religious mythology and Transcendent Knowledge, and how the mental model of time and control changes when the mind is exposed to the mystic state after the sacred meal.


    Around 20:00, Hypatia: 
    I‘ve read enough recountings of the story of Hypatia to know not to trust anything written about history and Christian origins, or “the” destruction of the Library of Alexandria.  We have stories — we have accounts, we have tales.  That much, we know — per the Radical Critic Edwin Johnson around 1895, we cannot trust anything written before the printing press; that’s the Land of Forgery and Fake History.  

    I was glad when the book came about, by a woman, that disbelieved the Christian Martyr stories.


    25:00
    Exoteric atheists and exoteric Christians tend to dismiss mystic experiences.  Try considering what these would mean:
    Exoteric atheism
    Esoteric atheism
    Exoteric religion
    Esoteric religion

    My main point about atheism is Sam Harris: one of his books advocates psychedelics, one of his books advocates no-free-will, and he utterly fails to perceive the psychedelic state as the no-free-will state of consciousness (experiencing, thinking/mental model).

    Tell atheists: reject religion, it is just irrationality.  Instead, you atheists should advocate no-free-will and psychedelics, while thinking about limits of control, and dependence of personal control on no-free-will.  

    This leads around back to religion, direct intense primary religious perennial mystic experiencing, and finally, after initially persecuting religionists, recognizing that religious mythology is precisely the description and reporting of psychedelics unveiling the underlying state, no-free-will, where control-thoughts are given from a hidden, uncontrollable source.


    31:00, 3:15+
    Mr. Historical Christ and his mystic experiences, AND, his death and resurrection describes mystic-state realization of noncontrol and profound dependence of personal control on the Creator as hidden, uncontrollable source of control-thoughts.  

    32:00
    ‘virgin’ means maiden, means youths and maidens, meaning (per religious mythology as description of psychedelic loose-cognitive realization) the beginning initiate, ripe for mental model transformation.
    Group: egodeath Message: 10735 From: egodeath Date: 19/05/2019
    Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast commentary
    Around 40:00-46:00, and 54:00, Max does a good job of identifying inconsistencies in the half-mystic interpretation of the Jesus figure, where Mr. Historical Jesus was a regular man who had archetypal mystic experiences and should be specially revered for that.

    After I posted the final version of the main article around 2007, a visionary Sally pointed out that I had not given focus to the meaning of the King on the Cross in the Roman Imperial era / in Antiquity.  So I wrote the draft outline article about that, not completed as an article.

    But I have written about my intellectual history behind the development of the Theory before.  

    Instead now, I am focused on summarizing the purely scientific theory.  

    I’m commenting on the podcast episodes to help out the episodes. 

    My intellectual history in relation to points in the podcast episodes is helpful for the podcast, but is non-essential to summarizing the scientific theory of decoding religious mythology as analogy describing psychedelic block-universe no-free-will mental-model transformation.


    56:00
    Max omits the ‘king’ mytheme when critiquing the figure of Jesus dying on the Cross, and resurrecting.
    The mytheme figure of the *King* on the Cross, after the Last Supper (let this cup of mixed wine pass from me, but not my will, but God’s will),

    The mytheme of the King on the Cross refers to the egoic autonomous controller agent experiencing being fastened to physical spacetime, forming the concept of the cyber-space-time block universe, in which the future rail of personal control-thoughts are pre-given, unchangeable, and frozen into the 4-D spacetime block per Minkowski and Parmenides.  

    This altered-state cybernetic death sacrifices the initial mental model, to gain the second, higher mental model of time and control, described by the analogy ‘resurrection’.
    Group: egodeath Message: 10737 From: egodeath Date: 19/05/2019
    Subject: {resurrection} analogy/metaphor/description/mytheme
    {resurrection} analogy/metaphor/description/mytheme


    {resurrection} analogy/metaphor/description/mytheme, as description of cognitive dynamics in the loose cognitive state


    In the ordinary state of consciousness, which is tight cognitive association binding, experiencing and the mental model of control and time are in the form of an autonomous control agent, like a sovereign king, steering among branching possibilities while moving into the future, as an open future that depends on the steering power wielded by the kingly agent.


    In the altered state of consciousness, which is loose cognitive association binding, the mental model and experiencing is in the form of a puppet with no-free-will, with a pre-existing, unchanging future, in a frozen block universe with snake-shaped worldline of control thoughts pre-given, frozen into the spacetime block, with monopossibility.

    The future is experienced as closed and pre-existing.

    Control-thoughts are experienced as arising from outside the personal control agent, from a hidden, uncontrollable source.

    The mental model of time and control and possibility changes, in the loose cognitive state, changing from one particular mental worldmodel to another, additional model.


    Death of the king on the cross or tree, and resurrection into a new, permanent form of life, describes this mental model transformation that results from a series of loose cognitive binding sessions.

    Cybernetic death of the control agent, is experienced as death, because the personal agent is above all, a control agent, and when control is experientially transformed, in experiencing and in the mental worldmodel, this is experienced as death of the main principle or identity of the agent: death of control, of the previous form of control, of the previous experience and mental model of control.

    Resurrection is analogy describing the experience of a new mental worldmodel and experience of personal control agency and control-power.

    The new life, resurrection, rebirth, transformation, completion of initiation, describe the experience that follows upon the full death or cessation of the old, previous, childish, non-initiated worldmodel of time and control and possibility.


    A-thanatos, non-dying, eternal life: After dying the full ego death, fully gaining the new mental worldmodel of time and control and possibility, the mind no long undergoes that struggle, that futility of trying to use the freewill basis of control-power, and that failure of control-stability that results from pushing that control-model to its limits.

    The mind no longer dies that drastic ego death, that control seizure, but is put on a new, stable foundation, based on a rock, that can endure when immersed in the loose cognitive state.

    The mind is no longer subject to altered-state cybernetic death experience.

    The initial full cybernetic control seizure, bringing realization of no-free-will and profound dependency on the external control-source, is like a maiden being abducted in religious mythology.

    Subsequent, post-enlightenment loose cognitive experiences occur, but are routinized, like a woman in the wedding chamber *after* marriage.
    Group: egodeath Message: 10738 From: egodeath Date: 19/05/2019
    Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast commentary
    The guest mentions reading the website but not the blog/discussion group.

    The website is for the unworthy.

    The insiders are 2019-2007 = 12 years more advanced, in this latest discussion group.

    No one reads or knows about the discussion group, because no one is worthy of the latest 12 years of theory development.


    The website is easy to survey and navigate.

    Like the general ‘weblog’ format, the discussion group is an awkward, pinhole UI — it’s hard to survey.

    This pattern is like how books are lately written: first post blog posts, with little structure among the posts, then collate them into a printed book (in this case, the website).
    Group: egodeath Message: 10739 From: egodeath Date: 19/05/2019
    Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast commentary
    When evaluating the TK podcasts, factor-in the value of my commentary in response, such as in the present thread.
    Group: egodeath Message: 10740 From: egodeath Date: 19/05/2019
    Subject: Re: {resurrection} analogy/metaphor/description/mytheme
    Resurrection is passive.

    The person after a series of loose cognitive sessions is sacrificed as the old agent-life and resurrected into the new agent-life.

    Everything is discovered to be passive.

    Personal initiative is revealed to be passive in origin.

    The person doesn’t take kingly initiative to ingest the sacred meal; the god forcibly calls the devotee to the god’s banquet of the sacrament.

    The person doesn’t resurrect themselves; the person is resurrected by the external controller, per the Sam Harris atheists’ doctrine (when finally applied consistently) of no-free-will, into new life.

    The external, trans-personal controller, the external control source per no-free-will, is the initiator of initiation, and the initiator of resurrection into transformed agency-life with a new mental worldmodel of time and control.

    Atheists brag about logical adherence to no-free-will, rationalism, and psychedelics, as against religion (assumed to be exoteric literalist religion).

    Atheists eventually realize that consistent no-free-will is profoundly radical noncontrol and profound dependency on the external world that sets personal control-thoughts fixed in time, and that religious mythology is intended to be interpreted as description of the realization of no-free-will, noncontrol, and profound dependency on an unknown puppetmaster in a position of power over one’s control-thoughts.
    Group: egodeath Message: 10742 From: egodeath Date: 19/05/2019
    Subject: Re: {resurrection} analogy/metaphor/description/mytheme
    People debating “whether God exists” fail to appropriately define ‘God’.

    ‘God’ is the hidden uncontrollable control-source that is the source of personal control thoughts, upon which the person is profoundly dependent.

    The mind in the loose cognitive state is brought to realize and perceive its utter helpless, female-like dependency on the superior control level, the hidden uncontrollable source of personal control thoughts, a threat revealed like a dragon hiding in a well spring in a cave, demanding sacrifice of one’s child self, sacrifice and repudiation of the premise of being able to use power that rests on a foundation of personal control agency as originator of control thoughts.

    Belief in God means having conscious, ideally first-hand, understanding of the profound dependency of personal control power on an uncontrollable external source: the Creator, the Ground of Being, the Tao.

    The mind is brought to put trust in that source, as the archetypal ‘woman’ is abducted and married by the God, as the Church is lifted up and married by Christ to himself.

    Christ the Architect of 4-D cyberspacetime brings the devotee to sacrifice their childish freewill-based thinking; this is the sacrifice of the son of God, the sacrifice of the ram and lamb and lower self.

    Sacrifice the lower self so that the higher self can be born; the lower self is sacrificed for the salvation and resurrection of the higher self.
    Group: egodeath Message: 10744 From: egodeath Date: 19/05/2019
    Subject: Re: {resurrection} analogy/metaphor/description/mytheme
    The mytheme of {resurrection} in Christianity is equivalent to {cessation of rebirth} in Buddhism.

    In Buddhism, after each psychedelic session, in the first sessions in the sequence of initiation sessions, unfortunately the attempt to transform thinking is incomplete, and the mind reverts into only having the egoic, freewill-based, Possibilism model of time and control.

    The mind is unfortunately “reborn” into “another” life, which is considered undesirable.  

    In the Buddhist version of religious metaphor, the goal is to secure enlightenment and avoid rebirth into another, egoic-thinking period.  

    The goal is cessation of the cycle of rebirths into egoic thinking, to instead retain the experience and especially the mental model of transcendence that was temporarily grasped in the altered state.
    Group: egodeath Message: 10745 From: egodeath Date: 19/05/2019
    Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast commentary
    24:00 
    See YouTube videos by exoteric Christians that try to critique Gnosticism.  

    It’s a given to them, that Gnosticism is bad.  

    Anything in Gnosticism is bad, and so cannot be in Christianity.  

    Gnosticism has special knowledge hidden and reserved for the elect, and therefore it follows (per exoteric Christians) that Christianity must not have special knowledge hidden and reserved for the elect.  

    Exoteric Christians claim to be Bible-based, but the Bible is more consistent than them.  

    The New Testament has plenty of passages asserting that there is special knowledge reserved for the elect; eg Mark 4:12.

    See the Gospel of Mark, and the Gospel of John.

    See Elaine Pagels’ first 3 books, on the Gospel of John, the writings of Paul, and the Gospels, as interpreted in Valentinian Gnosticism.
    Group: egodeath Message: 10746 From: egodeath Date: 19/05/2019
    Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast commentary
    The guest is like the unstable halfway point:

    o The unstable half-transformed mental model of control,

    o The unstable and inconsistent advocate of no-free-will and separately of psychedelics;

    o The unstable fence-sitting *moderate* entheogen theory of religion (the half-consistent position of Ruck & McKenna and most all Pop Sike authors who Jan Irvin flipped against)

    o The book Zig Zag Zen, from Tricycle Buddhist special issue on Psychedelics

    Half-baked, contradiction-filled, less rational and sensible than posed, because missing adequate consideration of loosecog experiencing. An exception is Benny Shanon, who combines (inadequately) mythology and phenomenology.

    Benny Shanon attempts to account for and inventory the various mythology and phenomenology of ayahuasca based on large quanitity of reports and experiences.

    Shanon’s research is valuable because it is a building block for a bona fide Theory:

    the “analogy/ psychedelics/ block universe/ no-free-will worldline” theory of religious mythology and how the mind transforms: loosecog, experiencing of control and time, perception of the source of control, across sessions of mental model transformation from one way of thinking to another, an additional, alternative way of perceiving time and control.


    Religious mythology describes the plant? That’s vague, at best. Ruck; typical of Pop Sike History books.

    The half-baked, moderate entheogen theory of religion is superficial, reductionist, ordinary-state-based, Possibilism-based, not experience-based, not based in systemic comparison of experiencing and thinking in the ordinary state and the loose cognitive state.

    Religious mythology is about a different experience, perception, and understanding of personal *control* ability.

    Religious mythology is not, firstly, about a plant, even if the plant is the flesh of the savior, body of the Holy Spirit.



    49:00 —

    Max is omitting “without whom Christianity wouldn’t have been created”:

    “The historical Jesus” proposal is best defined as: a single identifiable individual, *without whom* Christianity wouldn’t have been created.

    Mr. Historical Jesus was the founder of, or the foundation of, the origins of Christianity.

    Mr. Historical Jesus was like the Historical Paul but more important and more the source of religion.

    53:00

    Jesus was the most powerful mystic.

    Jesus was really killed.

    Jesus didn’t really resurrect.

    Jesus resurrecting was Mr. Jesus’ way of experiencing mystic experiencing after the Last Supper with mixed wine.

    AND ALSO the life of Jesus was the ideal metaphor.

    And Jesus was mocked as a king, and Jesus had a sign over his head; Pontius Pilate put on Jesus a sign:


    The King of the Jews


    A king drinks mixed wine at the last supper, feels dread but gives way to God’s will, is sacrificed in order to then be resurrected into new life with new, corrected, purified mind.


    60:00

    “After the session, life goes on” – that’s a brief way of putting it.


    After the final required cleansing session in the water and fire, the person is completed, perfected, washed clean in God’s eyes, and has continued life with a new, additional, transformed mental model of time and control and possibility.

    That model is immunized to seeing God and putting trust in the uncontrollable controller of your control-thoughts, normally veiled and hidden from perception, until ingesting the mixed wine sacred meal that brings prayer, dread, and being sacrificed for salvation and everlasting life,

    eternal life, everlasting life, non-dying, a-thanatos: no more series of failed attempts at grasping the temporary experience and mental model, now corrected,

    correction of thinking: scourged by flames in hell,


    trespassing into heaven,

    thrown out through the gate by not trusting in the mysterious puppetmaster of personal control-thoughts,


    the {male} upon whom the {female} is dependent and overpowered, abducted and set right in the eyes of God-level perception.

    God-level perception is the ability to see the serpent in the wellspring in the cave demanding as the price of the jewel that you are brought to pursue,

    To take the snake-held jewel, given that the snake possesses the jewel sought,
    sacrifice the freewill-premised foundation of personal control power,

    instead perceiving the situation normally veiled,

    Exorcise Sam Harris freewill-contaminated thinking that invokes the fury of being in God-level consciousness of the mind’s control-source.


    The mind behaves differently after eating the Flesh of Christ

    The mind experiences control and time and perception differently, after the last supper.

    The mind in loosecog is taught to think differently about the foundation of control, readily reconfiguring via loose cognitive association binding.
    Group: egodeath Message: 10747 From: egodeath Date: 19/05/2019
    Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast commentary
    All religions lack and have mystical experiencing.

    The lower, beginners’, exoteric level of Christianity and Buddhism lacks mystic state experiencing.

    The higher, initiates’, esoteric level of Christianity and Buddhism has mystic state experiencing, not recognized by exotericists.

    It is not the case that some religions have mystical experiences and other religions lack them.
    Group: egodeath Message: 10748 From: egodeath Date: 20/05/2019
    Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
    Transcendent Knowledge podcast, episode 13: perennialism, psychedelia, and ego death theory
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX84TYfocrc

    Different interpretations of Jesus’ crucifixion and resurrection.

    Supernaturalist and non-supernaturalist interpretations of bible stories.

    Psychotherapeutic use of psychedelic drugs to treat anxiety in cancer patients.

    Theoria in ancient Christian mysticism.

    The difference between historicist, non-historicist and mythicist interpretations of Jesus.

    Atheism, theism and agnosticism.

    Interpreting religion in light of the Ego Death Theory.

    Metaphysical vs phenomenological treatment of religion.

    Phenomenology of religious/mystical experience.

    Perception of frozen time during mystical experience.

    The effect of intense mystical experience on a person’s thinking.

    Failure to recognise the significance of mystical experience by atheists.

    Using analogy to illustrate the difference between exoteric and esoteric religion.
    Group: egodeath Message: 10750 From: egodeath Date: 20/05/2019
    Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast commentary
    Per atheists, forget ‘religion’. Instead of religion, use cognitive metaprogramming in the loosecog state, studying personal control integrity across time.

    Study no-free-will and control stability.

    Pursue perceiving the frozen-time block universe worldline, per no-free-will, with unchangeable control-thoughts that will come into the mind uncontrollably, and experience personal control in light of no-free-will.

    A control seizure, profound dependence on that which is the actual source of control thoughts.

    What to call these dynamics? Religion, prayer, sacrifice, resurrection, salvation, eternal life? Or other labels, for the most shocking, profound, transcendent, numinous experiencing?

    If ‘religion’ is taken to mean “whether God exists” and religion is literalist supernaturalism, then the terms from Religion cannot be used to describe cognitive dynamics and mental model transformation in the “analogical/ psychedelic/ block universe worldline/ no-free-will” state of consciousness.

    Esoteric religious mythology is in fact positioned in contrast to exoteric literalist thinking, the two are contrasted in the New Testament by the Jesus figure.

    Avoiding religion and studying personal control power instead, in the block universe no-free-will state of consciousness that results from the metaprogramming agent that loosens cognitive associations, leads to experiential dynamics and a mental model transformation that is described by religious mythology and religious language, when recognized.

    The target dynamics must be understood, before religious figuration can be recognized as descriptions of those cognitive dynamics in the religious state of consciousness, which is the loose cognitive association state, which switches from Possibilism to the Eternalism mode of experiencing and mental worldmodel.