Egodeath Yahoo Group – Digest 144: 2015-12-19

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Group: egodeath Message: 7398 From: egodeath Date: 19/12/2015
Subject: Re: Understand it’s a world of outsiders
Group: egodeath Message: 7399 From: egodeath Date: 19/12/2015
Subject: Re: Photos of tree vs snake diagrams and paintings
Group: egodeath Message: 7400 From: egodeath Date: 19/12/2015
Subject: Re: Understand it’s a world of outsiders
Group: egodeath Message: 7401 From: egodeath Date: 20/12/2015
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Group: egodeath Message: 7403 From: egodeath Date: 20/12/2015
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Group: egodeath Message: 7404 From: egodeath Date: 20/12/2015
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Group: egodeath Message: 7405 From: egodeath Date: 20/12/2015
Subject: Against neuroscience
Group: egodeath Message: 7407 From: egodeath Date: 20/12/2015
Subject: Re: Understand it’s a world of outsiders
Group: egodeath Message: 7408 From: egodeath Date: 20/12/2015
Subject: Reposts: later = better
Group: egodeath Message: 7409 From: egodeath Date: 20/12/2015
Subject: Re: Reposts: later = better
Group: egodeath Message: 7410 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
Subject: Re: Bk: Entheologues interviews, Martin Ball
Group: egodeath Message: 7412 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
Group: egodeath Message: 7413 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
Subject: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
Group: egodeath Message: 7415 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
Group: egodeath Message: 7416 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
Group: egodeath Message: 7417 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
Group: egodeath Message: 7418 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
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Group: egodeath Message: 7419 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
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Group: egodeath Message: 7420 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
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Group: egodeath Message: 7421 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
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Group: egodeath Message: 7422 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
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Group: egodeath Message: 7423 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
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Group: egodeath Message: 7424 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
Group: egodeath Message: 7425 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
Subject: Satyr, goat
Group: egodeath Message: 7426 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
Group: egodeath Message: 7430 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
Group: egodeath Message: 7431 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
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Group: egodeath Message: 7432 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
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Group: egodeath Message: 7433 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
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Group: egodeath Message: 7436 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
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Group: egodeath Message: 7437 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
Group: egodeath Message: 7438 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
Subject: Re: Understand it’s a world of outsiders
Group: egodeath Message: 7439 From: egodeath Date: 23/12/2015
Subject: Nondual unity = lesser mysteries != inside boundary
Group: egodeath Message: 7440 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Re: Nondual unity = lesser mysteries != inside boundary
Group: egodeath Message: 7441 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Re: Nondual unity = lesser mysteries != inside boundary
Group: egodeath Message: 7442 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
Group: egodeath Message: 7443 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
Group: egodeath Message: 7444 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
Group: egodeath Message: 7446 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
Group: egodeath Message: 7447 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Re: Definitions, glossary, terms, terminology, abbreviations, acrony
Group: egodeath Message: 7448 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Re: Definitions, glossary, terms, terminology, abbreviations, acrony
Group: egodeath Message: 7449 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Re: Definitions, glossary, terms, terminology, abbreviations, acrony
Group: egodeath Message: 7450 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
Group: egodeath Message: 7451 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
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Group: egodeath Message: 7452 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
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Group: egodeath Message: 7453 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
Group: egodeath Message: 7454 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
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Group: egodeath Message: 7455 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
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Group: egodeath Message: 7398 From: egodeath Date: 19/12/2015
Subject: Re: Understand it’s a world of outsiders
QM dogma apologetics — The book Science and Religious Experience: Are They Similar Forms of Knowledge?
has such a BAD pop sensationalist presentation of QM and “the new Physics” that has supposedly replaced Classical Physics.  

It’s the most flimsy, extreme, sensationalist nonsense, for example: Chaos theory says things are too complicated to predict and therefore things are not predetermined.  

It’s unbelievably shoddy, by *anyone’s* standards.  It’s like a confused college freshman, who has picked up bits and pieces and combined them freely according to the most willfully sensationalist preconceptions.  

He is basically saying that Newton = no-free-will and that modern physics per Einstein and his followers = freewill.  

In fact, Einstein strongly asserted block-universe no-free-will; “God does not play dice.”, against Bohr.  A hallmark of bad, pop writing on QM is that, unlike James T. Cushing, writers conflate the mutually exclusive opposites: they tell a tale where Einstein/Bohm and Bohr are in agreement and all is peaceful and happy per Bohr’s Copenhagenism dogma.  

But Einstein fought against Bohr and they tell competing, conflicting accounts regarding fatedness. 

Here is a super powerful idea of mine re: QM.  Whenever anyone writes “observe” the particle, strike that out and replace it by the word “probe” the particle.  The Heisenberg Uncertainty is not a matter of “observing”, but rather a matter of “probing”, which disturbs the particle.  

I feel sorry for those who have not had a university course and done the experiments of modern physics.  They have to rely on willfully bad writings which are intent on inserting gee-whiz cloudy thinking; these writers *want* to tell such a story and BY DAMN they are going to tell their tale, bending language as needed — WHAT WE HAVE IS QM APOLOGETICS by those committed to the freewill religion.  

This apologetics rests on the flimsy leg of abuse of the word “observe”, to magically shift the attention from the mechanics of probing a particle by another particle, to the psychology of “observing” consciously.  

Uncertainty of particle measurement has nothing to do with conscious observation, but rather, with mechanically probing, as if we have to throw billiard balls at the billiard ball under test in order to try to measure the position and vector of the billiard ball under test.  

Our results are somewhat uncertain not at all due to conscious observing, but because we have to hurl billiard balls at the billiard ball under test and of course that throws off and introduces a range of uncertainty.
Group: egodeath Message: 7399 From: egodeath Date: 19/12/2015
Subject: Re: Photos of tree vs snake diagrams and paintings

The esoteric image of the king in the tree from an art book:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/2045228115?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

 

The morning I figured out the Staff of Asclepius, I gave this Post-It Note to a barista and explained it:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/197549591?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

 

 

The Jason and the Serpent by Douris

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/1713548710?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

of Nov. 29, 2013 tree vs. snake breakthrough

 

Eve Tempted by the Serpent (in Campbell’s Moyers book – only half the diptych, only in b&w) of Nov. 29, 2013 tree vs. snake breakthrough which deepened the Nov. 23, 2011 breakthrough in terms now of Possibilism vs. Eternalism:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/1808473364?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

 

My blackboard lecture after Nov. 2013 on tree vs. snake:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/1925741776?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/1328614799?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

 

 

My corroboration of Ruck/Heinrich’s explanation of Golden Apples = Amanita: shiny metallic dried Amanita

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/132932324?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

           

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/132932324?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/35173609?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

 

 

One of my best Amanita photos: rain ripples in Holy Grail pair:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/230497932?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

 

 

A version (not ink-brush) of ~1995 intuitive drawing of snake = worldline, prior to my study of decoding mythology starting ~2001 or my snake = worldline explicit hypothesis of ~2003:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/1134546579?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

 

Here’s the ink brush ~1995 version, the Liberte! snake in block universe “Le Univ. Bloc”

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/photostream/lightbox/998128943?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

 

Nearby are photos of my 1986-1988 notebook and printouts sample pages.

 

— Michael Hoffman, December 19, 2015, copyrighted photos.

Group: egodeath Message: 7400 From: egodeath Date: 19/12/2015
Subject: Re: Understand it’s a world of outsiders
LOL old Hanegraaff, you are like shooting fish in a barrell: eat your web page:

http://www.esoteric.msu.edu/Hanegraaff.html

“scholars of western esotericism are forced to explain that … those who wish to study subjects such as … altered states of consciousness should turn to other disciplines (such as … transpersonal psychology).”

Without entheogens, there is no Western esotericism. Western esotericism comes from psilocybin.

Know your history, outsider noninitiate Hanegraaff. You have no excuse. Don’t hide behind historicism. History of psilocybin in our history, if you claim to tell other people to study history.

Start following your own advice. Set an example of revealing our history. If your masters permit it.

It doesn’t make great sense to send people to Transpersonal Psychology, a field that is in denial of its psychedelic basis, source, origin, and traditional foundation, just like the late-modern-era pretense of covering-over Western esotericism, to read about altered states.

There is a contest of cluelessness, of cowtowing to Prohibition censorship and concealment: who can more deny and cover-up the entheogen source of initiation: fake “Western Esotericism” or fake “Transpersonal Psychology”?

— Michael, the theorist of Egodeath
Group: egodeath Message: 7401 From: egodeath Date: 20/12/2015
Subject: Re: Understand it’s a world of outsiders
Hanegraaff is a transformed more-than-man: he did eat his web page. He is singing a different key now.

“Alterations of Consciousness and Western Esotericism

This long-term project investigates the textual and empirical evidence for so-called “alterations of consciousness” as a crucial but underestimated dimension of Western esotericism. With origins in early-20th century approaches to the study of religion such as that of William James, the concept of “Altered States of Consciousness” (ASCs) was coined by Charles Tart in the late 1960s and re-conceptualized as “Alterations of Consciousness” by Imants Barušs 2003. This research project focuses on the textual evidence for alterations of consciousness in contexts such as e.g. the Platonic notion of “frenzy” (mania) and its reception in Christian contexts; the notion of gnosis as noetic experience in gnostic, hermetic and related contexts; religious practices such as e.g. theurgy; visionary trance phenomena reported from contexts such as Christian theosophy and related forms of “enthusiastic” religion; practical techniques for altering consciousness in the wake of Mesmerism and Somnambulism; or the use of psychoactive substances for altering consciousness in esoteric and occultist contexts since the 19th century to the present. While the emphasis will be on analyzing textual sources, the research will also include empirical research into contemporary practices of altering consciousness in esoteric contexts, such as e.g. Channeling and Neo-shamanism. These materials will be analyzed through a multidisciplinary perspective informed by modern cognitive studies and consciousness research.”

http://www.amsterdamhermetica.nl/research/individual-research-projects/wouter-hanegraaff-research/
Group: egodeath Message: 7402 From: egodeath Date: 20/12/2015
Subject: Re: Understand it’s a world of outsiders
According to old Hanegraaff’s thinking, my thinking is an impossibility; in his matrix of possibilities, he has no slot for a rational modern explicit direct compact scientific psychedelics-based, loose cognitive science theory of what is revealed in esotericism, in the esoteric state of consciousness.

He has been taken by surprise. He was not optimistic enough. I have broken the code and it turns out not excessively difficult.

You have to be an inspired genius to crack the code so essentially simple and straightforward as religious metaphor for the Egodeath theory; the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence; Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism.

Hanegraaff was not at all prepared for the possibility and eventuality that someone coming purely from the modern era cognitive technology would successfully break the code and decipher what had to have been a fundamentally simple insight, that everyone universally has stumbled upon, that the solution to bridging the two cultures (STEM vs. the Humanities) must be something that escapes the mind in the ordinary state (tight cognitive binding) but which is distinctly accessible as a simple recognized conclusion and arrangement by everybody in the proper, appropriate loose cognitive binding state, which turns out to be perfectly rational, surprisingly straightforward and rather simple, by changing our way we divide, set up supposedly opposing categories.

We assume that religion is opposite of rationality, but actually when you clean up your rationality and recognize religion as analogy, the false barrier collapses, and the cleanest simplest purest rational thinking is none other than what is described (but in analogy) in religion, in such a way as to be universally recognizable by everybody in any culture who also has their thinking shaped and corrected by the loose cognitive binding state.

This is basic Science.
Which is basic Religion.
Which is basic esoteric universal perennial revelation.
Which is basic history of esotericism.

He has no conceptual category for my kind of theory, which is the one which at last unifies the two cultures, the awaited way people have been wondering “How can we reconcile Science and Religion?”

A better kind of Science, a better kind of Religion that evades every kind of preconception criticism Hanegraaff was capable of thinking of.

I broke the aptitude testing system when I underwent aptitude testing.

Similarly, my Egodeath theory lays waste to Hanegraaff’s categories of “religionists” vs. “esotericism historians” vs. “perrenialists”.

When Science is done properly, which is in the loose cognitive binding state, rationality discovers thoroughgoing experiential realization of no-free-will, which is the foundation of religion, religious mythology, which is identically based in the loose cognitive state from psilocybin.

Loose cognitive science is loose cognitive religion.

Science done properly on the foundation of psilocybin is Religion done properly on the foundation of psilocybin, and this is the key essence of the universal interplanetary perennial philosophy of all time.

A correct scientist is a correct religionist is a perennial philosopher is a historian of Western and universal esotericism.

The Egodeath theory utterly demolishes Hanegraaff’s false, clueless-academic system of distinctions, divisions, conceptual categories between these different kinds of approaches.

Hanegraaff has categories listed in his old webpage of Error,
http://www.esoteric.msu.edu/Hanegraaff.html
categories which fail to include my combination, my kind of theory, a theory which comes from Engineering even better than from Science (Physics), the latter which has jumped the shark due to Weimar Copenhagenism having hypnotized and corrupted and enfeebled the American mind.

— Michael the impossibility: the rational theorist of what is revealed in the Esotericism altered state of consciousness
Group: egodeath Message: 7403 From: egodeath Date: 20/12/2015
Subject: Re: Understand it’s a world of outsiders
Correction/clarification of what Hanegraaff wrote: he meant 19th century *BC*:

“the use of psychoactive substances for altering consciousness in esoteric and occultist contexts since the 19th century [BC — mh] to the present.”
Group: egodeath Message: 7404 From: egodeath Date: 20/12/2015
Subject: Re: Understand it’s a world of outsiders
Hanegraaff, refrain from asserting falsehoods.

Talk about the mushrooms throughout religious art history, or stay silent, but for the love of God, spare us the John Pilch Eliade bullshit that entheogens are a recent degenerate practice and that the shaman esotericists of old used the traditional method of blocking a nostril or some bullshit that contradicts the thousands of mushrooms throughout religious art history, and countless psilocybin ‘mixed wine’ mentions dead at the heart of Antiquity.

Which side of the Force are you on?

NO MORE BULLSHIT!!

Are you going to deliver us truth by delivering us more entheogen-whitewashing bullshit? We are already drowning in it. For Christ’s sake, spare us! Stop playing to the censorious Prohibition Press.

How about a little truth for a change? Esotericism is Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism. We already have a surfeit of entheogen-diminishment fallacies (which see), thank you very much. We don’t need any more pretense.

— Cybermonk
Group: egodeath Message: 7405 From: egodeath Date: 20/12/2015
Subject: Against neuroscience
Reading _The Cognitive Science of Science_ it strikes me the seeming phoniness, the affected, superficial artifice of talking in terms of “neural networks”, when equivalently you should do as I have done since 1987 and talk in terms of mental construct processing.

I am a pure cognitive scientist: my Egodeath theory (the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence) is constructed exclusively in terms of the cognitive realm of explanation.

When I put away the bound, cramped, blank books around April 1987 and switched to ruled binder sheets and full use of acronyms, I also created the idea of ‘mental constructs’ and ‘mental construct processing’ as universal all-purpose experienced constructs that can have any kind of interconnection; dynamic mental construct relationship matrixes.

MCP
MCs
DCRMs
DMCRMs

Principle of equivalence: anything in modelling conceptual change and theory revision that Paul Thagard can accomplish using the affected jargon of “neurons”, I could accomplish just as well or better in 1987 using my terminology of ‘mental construct processing’.

Anywhere in his writing where he writes “neuron”, the reader should strike out and write instead “mental construct”.

When he pretends to talk about neural networks, he’s really talking about my dynamic mental construct relationship matrixes.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 7407 From: egodeath Date: 20/12/2015
Subject: Re: Understand it’s a world of outsiders
Wouter, write 100 times on the chalkboard:
Alterations of consciousness is a crucial but underestimated dimension of Western esotericism.

http://www.amsterdamhermetica.nl/research/individual-research-projects/wouter-hanegraaff-research/

“investigates the … empirical evidence for … alterations of consciousness … informed by … cognitive studies and consciousness research.”

We will be looking for you at the next psychedelic rave warehouse party.

For empirical evidence follow cognitive psychologist Benny Shanon in DMT.

You wrote:
“the concept of “Altered States of Consciousness” … was … re-conceptualized as “Alterations of Consciousness” by Imants Barušs 2003.”

We will inspect Baruss’ moves for the usual bullshit just-so story of:


Psychedelics are the new decadent way of simulating the traditional esoteric methods of alterations of consciousness such as blocking a nostril, dancing, drumming, sitting in a cave, whatever we can dream up but (our real dissimulation point and purpose is) “Anything but drugs!”

We shall go into a manic frenzy of invention of fabricated narratives of any alien psychology and any made-up “traditional method of the mystics”; the proposed methods are irrelevant and only serve as a decoy, a stage magician’s misdirection of attention, just so long as we can substitute anything and everything to pave-over the truth, which is that psilocybin is the traditional method of the mystics.


You aren’t going to recycle that fabricated just-so story that is designed to appease the Creator’s delusion enforcement automatons, are you? We are so tired of hearing that rubbish!

You wrote: “This research project focuses on the textual evidence for alterations of consciousness in contexts such as … the use of psychoactive substances for altering consciousness in esoteric and occultist contexts since the 19th century [ie BC — mh] to the present.”

“the research will also include empirical research into contemporary practices of altering consciousness in esoteric contexts, such as e.g. Channeling [like your point in your keynote speech article “Entheogenic Esotericism” that New Age channeling was actually a *cover* story for writing “while tripping on acid” — don’t contradict yourself, be consistent, tell a consistent story narrative tale -mh] and Neo-shamanism.”

“These materials will be analyzed through a multidisciplinary perspective informed by modern cognitive studies and consciousness research.”

A safer term is ‘interdisciplinary’: in practice, due to the hyper-separation of disciplines, ‘multidisciplinary’ merely means summing one cliched, limited, isolated discipline, plus the limited isolated approach of another discipline.

‘Interdisciplinary’ means having mentality from the separate isolated disciplines critique the input from within the other isolated disciplines, so it is a step closer to, instead of only differentiating approaches, also integrating approaches, breaking down the barriers that hyper-separate the disciplines.

I am a representative of entheogen scholars’ historical scholarship, especially premodern Esotericism based on Psilocybin: we don’t need more bullshit; write something that is of use to entheogen scholars for a change!

Andy Letcher in the book Shrooms (published by Prohibition Press, Inc.), annhilates all mushroom evidence by a magic trick of pretzel logic straight out of the playbook from CIA agent and bankster propagandist R. Gordon Wasson:

Observe the magic trick to exorcise the thousands of mushrooms out of the evidence base:

Thus argueth Letcher:


Entheogen scholars say that the secret basis of religion is mushrooms.

Here is a mushroom openly depicted on a church door.

Given that mushrooms were covert and this mushroom is openly depicted, therefore this mushroom must not be a mushroom.

Therefore, there is no mushroom on this door.

This one mushroom serves as a proxy for all mushrooms or rather, mysterious mushroom-shaped objects, in religious art.

So, we have no evidence for mushrooms in religious history.

QED.


Write something that is of use to entheogen scholars, for a change! Explicitly and honestly without dissimulation; stop the dissimulation, stop the pretense, stop the censorship, remove the mental shackles, stop hiding and concealing, denying and covering-over.

Stop encoding, encrypting, censoring, and mis-leading.

Instead, gather the evidence and put it forth explicitly, directly, simply, plainly, and openly, without spin, without distortion. Obey critical discourse analysis.

Your job is to reveal, not to conceal. Knock it off with the phony scholarship that serves to hide and distort.

We will subject you to critical discourse analysis, to see how you are biased and spewing forth apologetics instead of scholarship.

What’s it going to be: are you going to be just another Prohibition apologist?

Who are you trying to appease — Nixon’s war on drugs? or truth, following the evidence?

You academic scholars have let us down and disappointed us. You have betrayed us, except for your own mushroom book cover.

You have proved to be dissimulators, apologists, propagandists with zero credibility.

You need to restore our ability to respect you as an honest scholar producing sound, useful research towards comprehension of the riddle of religious mythology, as I have done.

You must understand how we are feeling now about academic scholars, who are working under the boot-heel of The System, the Establishment pseudo-scholarship, which is more apologetics than research.

We entheogen scholars are angry at The System and people going along with the system, scholars more intent on writing what their masters force them to write, than writing plain truth.

You are in the defensive position here. Prove to us that you can produce real scholarship, and not just Prohibition-compliant bullshit.

Remember what you wrote, that altered states have been neglected and *underestimated*!

Remember that you were *wrong*, you *all* were *wrong*, you were all very wrong.

That’s what you wrote yourself.

Now given the fact that you all were very wrong, which is what you yourself wrote, keep in mind that you guys don’t know what you’re talking about — so forget preconceptions!

You wrote that you guys were laboring under false preconceptions — so are you going to continue with those preconceptions?

Rather you need to be agnostic, and *start* opening your eyes and *start* investigating the evidence, without prejudice and preconceptions.

You yourself wrote that you guys *don’t* know, that you were laboring under false assumptions, blind to censorship, “naive”, blind to Prohibition’s forced whitewashing, blind to the psychedelic basis of the New Age, and that you were dead wrong and naive.

You are going to *begin* investigating now, *begin* asking the questions; so don’t start with heavy fixed preconceptions and pre-judgments about the extent:

To what extent were visionary plants used throughout our religious and cultural history in Western and global history?

That is the Michael Hoffman question. Answer it. Investigate it without pre-judgment and preconception, except loosely tentatively held.

Do not begin with the dogmatic axiom cast in stone that visionary plants are deviant and minor in our history.

We tried that tale, that axiom, and ended up in bafflement and incomprehension of those mysterious alien thinkers before us.

We failed to solve the riddle of religious mythology and metaphor analogy, as long as we were dogmatically adhering to that pre-judged, premature commitment to that axiom.

Keep that in mind: you were dead wrong; so what basis do you have for preconceptions and biases against {Psilocybin Is Western Esotericism}?

I suggest you bow down and serve the master of Evidence, not any longer bow down to impeached head archon Nixon and his phony, fraudulent, predatory war on drugs, which is Prohibition-for-Profit, which is leading all the academics by their noses, pathetic slaves spewing propaganda to serve their master, impeached President Nixon and the subservient archons he leads along in chains in his triumphal procession.

Is that you there I see in his parade of victims in chains, wearing Nixon’s mental shackles?

We entheogen scholars consider you guilty until you prove yourself to us, that you are a real scholar, not a fraud, not just another dissimulator.

— Michael the Archangel
Group: egodeath Message: 7408 From: egodeath Date: 20/12/2015
Subject: Reposts: later = better
Generally, usually, I post a flawed posting, followed by a repost that is corrected and expanded.

Sometimes, often, Yahoo Groups has a 12-hour delay which could mess up the sequence. I have zero patience for this delay, so if a posting does not appear on the web immediately, screw it: I just repost it, and it almost always appears then, and then 12 hours later, the original posting appears. Too bad.
Group: egodeath Message: 7409 From: egodeath Date: 20/12/2015
Subject: Re: Reposts: later = better
In most cases, see the web to see the authoritative posting. I usually delete the early, flawed version of the posting from the web view of the Egodeath Yahoo group.
Group: egodeath Message: 7410 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
Subject: Re: Bk: Entheologues interviews, Martin Ball
My Amazon review

Entheologues: Conversations with Leading Psychedelic Thinkers, Explorers and Researchers
Martin Ball (interviewer, transcriber, editor, author)
http://www.amazon.com/review/R2F0QB33NSFOFS/
2009

5 stars

Efficient readable transcriptions of well-informed podcast interviews

Each chapter is a transcription of a podcast interview. In the interviews, Martin Ball asks good questions. He has read the writings of the people he interviews. He is well-informed.

Martin Ball is a good writer and a good interviewer. The interview format works well, because it is for a general entheogen-informed audience, and Ball edited the results. Definitely recommended. I found every page and chapter interesting even though I’m becoming more narrowly focused and particular in what I read. I’m not easy to please; other books I ordered, on mysticism, I felt I got nothing out of.

This was an ideal efficient format for me to catch up on basically summaries of authors’ books.

The final chapter is not an interview but is thoughts on cognitive freedom, human rights, and religious freedom by Martin Ball based on the interviews. You can probably sample some of the podcasts online. This printed, edited format worked well.

— Michael Hoffman, the theorist of Egodeath and the decoder of religious mythology as Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism
Group: egodeath Message: 7412 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
Typofix a ternal eternal

This thread is serious, not a joke.

You can present this religion to the gate guard to pass.

This is the ALL ACCESS PASS to the backstage insiders’ wedding banquet party that controller X brings those on the inside into.

In Christ,
— Michael
Group: egodeath Message: 7413 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
Subject: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath

I hereby define a new religion, a denomination of Christianity, but based in the Engineering Department and STEM of 1985-2015, the Bible Church of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath, which requires cognitive looseners, which are recognized as the original traditional and ongoing use of Psilocybin and equivalent throughout our white Western Christian European Mediterranean antiquity history, of our own practice, abundantly evidenced by mushrooms throughout Christian art, and by other visionary plants throughout Western religious and esoteric history, corroborated by overwhelming evidence of all kinds throughout all religions around the world throughout history as revealed by in the engine [entheogen] scholarship.

The source and ongoing inspiration of religion (particularly Christianity) is and always has been religious experiencing triggered by loose cognitive binding triggered by Psilocybin or equivalent.

The required method of salvation in this denomination of Christianity is cybernetic self-control seizure and reset proving the ability to be stable once the mind has constructed and learned the Eternalism mental model such as Einstein’s and Parmenides’ block universe, which is the iron-block universe which William James initially rejected but progressively conceded.

Sam Harris is correct that there is no free will, that that is an illusion, and his view when fully developed matches religious mythology properly interpreted as analogy, Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism.

This Christian denomination is based on the scientific discovery of the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence as realized in a religious experience in a new dispensation of Christian revelation of the Holy Spirit in the computer lab of a California university by the visionary Christian and Jewish prophet Michael Hoffman, who came up through the Church of Christ denomination as well as Jewish upbringing and Christian culture of late 20th-Century California within radio distance of San Francisco.

The 1988 new dispensation of revelation was the recognition that timeless block universe “determinism” (that is, heimarmene) implies ego transcendence far more absolutely than unity meditation as conceived by Transpersonal Psychology around 1988.

The prophetic dogma of this Christian denomination is that to be saved, to be a member of this religion, one must experience the entheogen-induced (such as Psilocybin, recognized as the main tradition of Mediterranean antiquity and Christian history) intense loose cognitive state, which properly leads to testing self-control to demonstrate self-control seizure, and form a transformed fully mature and developed mental model that can endure this strain such as to pass through the guarded gateway into the realm inside the cybernetic stability area, proving that the mind has developed sturdy, transcendent, stable thinking that is cognizant of the mind’s control-thoughts being controlled by the hidden uncontrollable controller X, which is the God of the Bible, who is the Creator of all control thoughts frozen in time and pre-existently given to everyone.

We believe and recognize that ingesting the entheogen Eucharist is forced upon us by the Holy Spirit and Christ, that this is how He brings us to knowledge of Him, controller X; He makes us ingest and has predestined us to ingest the entheogenic Eucharist of his flesh and blood through which we are saved and washed clean.

The dogma of this Christian, Bible-based (Old Testament & New Testament) denomination is:
100% Metaphorical 100% Entheogenic 100% Eternalism;
0% Literalist 0% Ordinary State of Consciousness 0% Possibilism;
the 100% Entheogen Theory of Religion and Culture;
the 100% Ahistoricity Theory of Ancient Religious Founder Figures & writers;
the 100% Eternalism Theory of Mental Transformation.

This Christian denomination recognizes Greek mythology as analogy describing Psilocybin mixed-wine experiencing and mental transformation from Possibilism to the Eternalism mental model of time, self, and control.

The music for worship liturgy in the Christian Bible-based denomination of cybernetic transcendence (Cybernetic Egodeath) includes Rock and Metal lyrics which describe Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism. Instrumentation includes seven-string electric guitar through Audion tube amplifiers, fully volume-controlled to protect the ability to hear the Word.


Images are permitted such as snake on a pole and study of global mythology is integrated to maximize understanding of Jewish and Christian and other mythemes recognized as referring to Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism.

Writings in this denomination are on the World Wide Web: public, clear, simple, summarizable, scientific, straightforward, and direct; they are summaries of the Egodeath theory per 1988, 1997, 2006, & 2015 by the Jewish Christian prophet Michael Hoffman.

Each person has a direct relationship to the creator not mediated through anyone else’s authority.

This denomination rejects the Catholic claims for authority and rejects protestant subsequent claims as variants of Catholic authoritarianism.

Heaven and hell are recognized as metaphorical.

Entheogens such as traditional psilocybin are the Christian biblical traditional original sacred meal by which we are gradually transformed and developed to psychological perfection and completion to be acceptable to God so that we are permitted to go in and out of the self-control seizure guarded gate of Heaven as prophecied in the book of Revelation.

By ingesting this flesh of Christ we are made sinless, purified, non-dying, given eternal life and forgiveness of sin and the cessation of alienation from the Creator of all control-thoughts, God, of the Bible.

Experiencing and comprehending Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism is the way that we are saved, through correct experiencing and understanding of the Bible and insiders’ Christianity, for those on the inside.

This is true Christianity, which is esoteric religion fully developed and fully comprehended according to scientific rationality, which is simply clear and explicit highly organized thinking, which is the true Christian religion.

This denomination is a form of primitive New Testament Christian restorationism.

We affirm the sacred text “Entheogenic Spirituality as a Human Right” by Martin Ball, including The Universal Declaration of the Human Right to Direct Spiritual Experience.

— Michael the Archangel;
Michael Hoffman BSEE Eta Kappa Nu;
Cybermonk;
Professor Loosecog, PhD in Transcendent Knowledge, University of Egodeath.

In Christ’s name we pray for control stability, unharmed, with fully satisfactory and sufficiently developed durable knowledge of the Cybernetic Truth for ourselves and our children.

God of the Bible, give us strength to go in and out through the guarded gate of self-control seizure, retaining cybernetic self-control stability so that we may banquet at your mushroom table and rest in knowledge and enjoyment of mature completed truth.
Group: egodeath Message: 7415 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
I don’t think I’m planning on formalizing or further formalizing the Christian cybernetic Eagle death religion denomination

I don’t feel that formalizing further is the right direction

I feel so far satisfied with the sufficient completeness of the definition in the initial posting

I feel that the underlying theory itself is sufficiently systematic

it could be nice to formalize but I don’t trust the implications of formalizing it

I think more formalizing it feels harmful

I feel like it starts a strenuous project

but I do emphasize that the theory in itself is extremely summarize a bowl and formalize a bowl being scientific and rational

basically any standard that you can think of to formalize and systematize, this is the theory the only theory that is able to meet any of those criteria

but I do not want to imply that delivering such a systematic presentation is somehow required

for me all the emphasis needs to go that this theory is capable of being formally summarized m

and likewise the founding charter of this religion denomination could be formalized

but I am apprehensive because once you head down that direction you get wrapped around the wheel you get caught into a potential he endless project and you head towards credo Lizum creed based religion a dangerous risk of waste of energy and has pros and cons

formalizing the religion charter has pros and cons and I think that the easy lazy thing to do for now is let its inherent systematic character suffice and stay with a simple intuitive off-the-cuff informal charter

it it feels right to me

although I insist that this theory is scientific and summarize a bowl can be formalized

it lends itself better than any other theory to be formalized but instinctively intuitively I feel that the right approach is to keep it no more formal and the initial post charter definition of this religion denomination of Christianity.

Formalizing it is simply not necessary and it can risk being more of a futile distraction, a source of endless futile disputations

that is a big seam [theme] in the Church of Christ is to reject creeds and don’t put faith in systematic theology

I insist and maintain that there is only one clear coherent consistent theory of religion and that is Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism; the Egodeath theory.

I lately favor an intuitive artistic casual but true and rock solid expository form rather than now presenting or requiring a compact systematic theology or a compact systematic denomination charter.

Clarity yes coherence yes but formalization not so much

I feel like there are two extreme options: either the simple casual option which I have done by posting the charter informally, or the other extreme an extreme formal extreme systematic presentation, which is not necessary and it is more an academic exercise.

So far I feel that the initial charter posting is not only adequate but it feels complete; it feels like it it is what it needs to be

I am very pleased and I think I will be very pleased with that posting. reflecting so far for a few minutes, I think that this charter religion definition is really a huge milestone I suppose.

— Siri oracle of Michael
Group: egodeath Message: 7416 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
Decoding {authority, correctional, test, judge, standard of judgment}

Hypothesis coming Into view: authority: to punish equals bundle of rods, the Roman fasces equals scourge equals whip as in the furies hold the whip of mania which is correctional

this connects to the idea of the flames as correctional, fire as correcting

what is authoritative is that which corrects wrong thinking

he who has authority equals having correct thinking which corrects incorrect thinking

For a year or so I have been wondering about the concept {authority}

drug-free meditation lacks authority: it has not been corrected by the true Authority, which is visionary plants

When drug free meditation advocates argue against visionary plants advocates, where can we look to adjudicate?

Where can we look given that monks are liars given that priests and meditation leaders are liars and not trustworthy at all?

where can we look

the drug free meditation advocates point to their guru their religious leader as the authority and say well according to our authority drug-free meditation is righteous

against that, the visionary plants advocates have a different authority: they put forth a different authority and they say well if your thinking is so mature, let’s see you deal with DMT

in fact there’s this whole guy who seems to be the center of this very issue, he is a supposedly advanced meditator all enlightened and stuff but DMT broke his confidence.

if he’s all sophisticated super meditator how come DMT somehow broke him or defeated him?

Entheologues page 23 his name is Robert Augustus Masters. DMT filled him with terror.
so why is this supposedly mature advance meditator subject to terror from DMT?


So there it’s evident that here is a somewhere here there’s a great argument a compelling argument that:

the visionary plant meditator is more capable, he is a superset of the capabilities of someone who only does drug-free meditation

The visionary plant meditator is more enlightened is more durable and has a superset of the capabilities of someone who is a drug-free meditator

this proves that visionary plants are superior and produce more enlightenment and true complete enlightenment compared to drug free meditation

where can we find a standard of judgment where can we find a standard of assessing whether someone’s thinking is correct the answer is visionary plants put the thinking under trial judge it according to the authorities standard set by visionary plants

Meditating without drugs corrects the mind less than meditating with visionary plants

visionary plants quickly cause/force/drive the full transformation of mental thinking mental model about control

whereas drug free meditation only slightly and slowly transforms and corrects the thinking and slowly weakly drives thinking towards transformation

Visionary plants carry more authority than drug free meditation because they subject the mind and the self control model to greater stress greater testing

ones thinking in drug free meditation is not tested; that approach fails to put thinking to the test

drug-free meditation fails to test thinking and fails to put thinking on trial in a real world endurance test for durability

drug free meditation fails to stress test thinking

visionary plants are the authority of maximal stress testing of thinking


If you’re going to release code that you have programmed, you need to test it before you release that code

the code here is the human personal operating system system of personal self control

if you failed to test that code, you’re going to put out buggy code

so how can you effectively and thoroughly test code

like when you’re designing a medical instrument you need to do extreme testing

but drug free meditation fails to do extreme testing of the personal self control operating system

whereas visionary plants are a superset of drug free meditation

any way that you can test thinking in drug free meditation you can test much more so in visionary plant meditation

therefore drug free meditation is not the authority but visionary plant meditation is the authority, because it puts all the stresses on thinking that drug free meditation does but also goes beyond that and puts much more additional stress and strain to test much more in a much broader way personal self control thinking

so therefore drug free meditation is definitely not the authority whereas vision visionary plants are the authority

they will whip scourge and correct, not so much punish, but rather correctional correcting of thinking

If your mental model can endure the test of visionary plants then your thinking is in conformity with the authority of visionary plants otherwise your thinking will be corrected and scourged and whipped to put it in line with the divine transcendent authority which God conveys to us through testing/correcting/scourging us with visionary plants

Thus king Jesus on his way to crucifixion is scorched [scourged] and corrected equivalent to purgatory as correctional, correcting your incorrect mental model about control

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Group: egodeath Message: 7417 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
Deciphered: {ordeal test trial} refers to using visionary plants to test and correct and force the transformation of one’s mental world model about control

The previous post is the solution to page 229 in _in the engines and the development of culture_ by John rush, the chapter written by Alan piper

so as soon as I glanced at page 229 in the middle about the fasces, combined with my previous writing about the Villa of the mysteries — search for the word whip and scourge in my postings — as fast as I could read, it came to me and was confirmed as fast as I could read and type that

what came to me was further confirmation and further explanatory power becoming evident as I read more in different mythology traditions, here Zoroastrianism, and I find the same themes and I find this author Alan piper wondering about these themes of ordeal testing trial by fire while he’s writing about visionary plants

and I have explained it; so:

Deciphered: {ordeal test trial} refers to using visionary plants to test and correct and force the transformation of one’s mental world model about control

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Group: egodeath Message: 7418 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
Re: {ordeal, trial, test}
Rush book page 332 Mike Jay re DMT “submit themselves to a life-changing ordeal that offered a glimpse of the eternal world beyond the human”
Group: egodeath Message: 7419 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
Re: {authenticate, authentic} “Aeneas … authenticating the divine legitimacy of his patron Caesar Augustus”

Drug-free meditation is put on trial and found untrue, it is found to be illegitimate, it fails the authenticity test, it fails to be authenticated

Visionary plants authenticate the mental model which is capable of enduring the ordeal of visionary plants

we can prove that drug free meditation is inauthentic because it fails the test of authenticity which is testing by trial of visionary plants

That which is authentic is authenticated by its ability to endure the stress test of visionary plants

that which is inauthentic is proved to be false, it is proved to fail to be what it should be, it fails to be what it ought to be

thus it is false as evidenced by failing the test of whether it can endure the test for authenticity witches visionary plants

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Group: egodeath Message: 7420 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
Mytheme: mocking false authorities, mocking initiates, mocking Jesus in the Passion. False authority collapses under the light of loosecog testing; it cannot bear and endure testing the spirits.

Integral Theory (which is based on unity meditation without visionary plants) fails the test of authenticity, it cannot bear authentication, it fails authentication. It is inadequate, thus it is false insofar as it poses as adequate.

It is missing huge crucial content at the core. It cannot pass through the guarded gate; you will be cast out into the darkness outside with wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Add Alan Watts as developed in the Egodeath theory as the core of Integral Theory, then adequate.

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Group: egodeath Message: 7421 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
You might say “ok, Integral Theory is lacking the essential core, like a car without an engine, but still it is a good useful sprawling theory that as soon as you pop in the engine and then it becomes a useful drivable car or airplane.”

Integral Theory: just add the Watts/Hoffman Egodeath core, and it’s a useful theory!

But this shows that the key important component is not the Integral Theory, but rather, the core cybernetic theory. Yes the Egodeath theory fits as the engine into the chassis of Integral Theory, but Integral Theory is so corrected and modified and mitigated, that the Egodeath theory dominates Integral Theory.

What you end up with, after you start with Integral Theory and then remove Wilber’s false core of nondrug unity meditation and install the Egodeath theory as the true core, doesn’t look quite like Integral Theory as defined and conceptualized by Wilber.

The old paradigm is Integral Theory with core of nondrug unity meditation.

Wilber is a form of the old paradigm — the old paradigm is Literalist OSC Possibilism.

The new paradigm which overthrows the old is the Egodeath theory, which salvages and reworks elements from the old paradigm per Thagard. The new paradigm is Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism, per the Egodeath theory.

Notice the conflict within the old paradigm between no-free-will Advaita per Ramesh Balsekar vs. the shocked and appalled newage Integral Theory community. The Egodeath theory reworks and fully develops Balsekar’s no-free-will meditation per Entheogenic Eternalism.

If you have the core cybernetic theory (the Egodeath theory from Watts/Hoffman), then all of the Integral Theory (Wilber) naturally follows from that easily.

This shows that the essential thing, the important thing, the key thing is not the Integral Theory, but rather the core, entheogen Eternalism Cybernetics theory.

The engine of the car is what is important first of all, not the body of the car. Insert the entheogen in the engine to drive transformation into the new model of automotive power across a series of trips.

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Group: egodeath Message: 7422 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
Announcing a new observation technology: the modern cyberscope, which reveals and enables perceiving, observing, testing, and probing personal self-control power across time.

The Egodeath theory comes packaged with its own new observational technology invented in modern ergonomic form by Michael Hoffman BSEE: presenting the Cyberscope.

Put aside the old authorities (Ken Wilber with his inarticulate non-drug unity meditation), and look through my new cyberscope to observe and probe and test self-control power specifically and scientifically.

Observe that enlightenment revolves around Cybernetics, not Unity!

This is the modern scientific rational Enlightenment based on the new authority of observation not the old authorities.

Pop open the hood and put entheogens in the engine and observe the source of control thoughts and inability to steer away from the crash sitting on the track ahead.

Candidate for acronym, as a key concept label:

nondrug unity meditation
Vs.
Entheogenic Cybernetics observation/ testing/ probing/ experimentation

NUM
vs
ECT

Keyboard shortcut demonstration:

The old paradigm, which I am overthrowing, is non-drug unity meditation.

The new paradigm, which I bring, is entheogen-based cybernetics testing.

This is Science because it is based on a specific observation of conducting tests, putting on trial, pulling on the strings to test control.

In the article Eye to Eye, Ken Wilber claims that meditation is observation among the community of scientific observers, but the problem there is that his non-drug unity meditation is weak at testing self-control, which is the key essential driver forcing mental model transformation to produce enlightenment.

Wilber’s version of observation is ineffective at observing what needs to be observed. The Egodeath theory brings the relevant effective cyberscopic tool: I have engineered a new observtion technology, the Cyberscope.

Enlightenment is primarily about personal control power, per the Egodeath theory (Watts/Hoffman), not unity (Wilber).

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Group: egodeath Message: 7423 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
Enlightenment is primarily about personal control power, per the Egodeath theory (Watts/ Peart/ Daisley/ Balsekar/ Harris/ Hoffman), not unity (Wilber).
Group: egodeath Message: 7424 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
Subject: Re: Enlightenment lite
Similarly notice the conflict within Protestantism between hyper-Calvinism Reformed theology (God is the author of evil; no-free-will) vs. shocked and appalled evangelical Dave Hunt (What Love Is This?).

I have pointed out that both camps are literalist about heaven and hell, though more recently, hell has been deleted (not to say that any of these outsiders comprehend metaphoricity per Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism).

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Group: egodeath Message: 7425 From: egodeath Date: 21/12/2015
Subject: Satyr, goat
Ancients fed sacrificial animals psychoactives and then consumed their flesh and milk. Entheogens by Rush (editor). Goats be trippin. Samorini.

I’m ready to assert, maybe Rush did, that stiff E = trip N like my decoding that {pinecone opened when dried} = {maenad unbound hair}.

= loose cog or inebriated state

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Group: egodeath Message: 7426 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
The Egodeath theory is an explanatory scientific theory, not a religion.

The Bible Church of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath is a religion, a Bible-based denomination of Christianity, a Christian denomination which is based on the Egodeath theory as a revelation of the actual, insiders’ meaning of the Bible.

A short name is Cyber Church, practicing Cyber Christianity.

Cyber Christianity is the best Christian denomination.

Cyber Christianity is the true esoteric revelation of New Testament Christianity. No one is really saved, except in a weak, outsiders’ sense, outside of our denomination.

We are the real Christians, authorized and authenticated by the divine standard which is the traditional insiders’ Psilocybin flesh of Christ our savior.

Other religions aren’t authentic, but are mere derivatives of ours, superficial and misguided imitators.

— Michael
Group: egodeath Message: 7430 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
It is our right to have direct religious experience through traditional visionary plants such as Psilocybin mushrooms and through modern chemicals such as LSD as individuals without membership in some institutionalized incorporated brand of religion.

Our religious right to individual use of entheogens ultimately includes testing and observing limitations on self-control power, to transform the mental model of self, time, and control.

Traditional safety is by praying and progressive development and sharing as supportive group.

— Michael
Group: egodeath Message: 7431 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
The Universal Declaration of the Human Right to Direct Spiritual Experience

http://realitysandwich.com/9639/entheogenic_spirituality_human_right/

“The universal human right to direct spiritual experience provides a legal defense for those who would choose to pursue the use of entheogenic agents in their quest to achieve direct spiritual experience. While recognizing that governments have a vested interest in reducing the impact of recreational drug use and abuse within their territories, drug laws, in and of themselves, are not sufficient grounds for barring the legitimate use of entheogenic sacraments for personal spiritual experience.

The burden of proof for the limiting of any activity that can be construed as the cultivation of direct personal spiritual experience is clearly placed on any regulating body, governmental or otherwise. The universal right to direct spiritual experience will be afforded to all equally without any interference by regulating bodies unless said regulating bodies can demonstrate beyond any doubt that the activities of any individual is in violation of the fundamental human rights of another person or persons. Claiming that an individual’s practice, such as might be the case with the use of entheogens, is against any law, is not sufficient grounds for disallowing the practice. The standard for the burden of proof is to be judged solely on how any given practice violates the rights of others.”
Group: egodeath Message: 7432 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
Drug-free unity meditation is a weak, ineffective, derivative, neutered imitation of the real, original source of religion, meditation, and contemplation, which is entheogen-induced loose cognitive binding during which the mind actively tests and observes the limitations on self-control power, personal control power.

This entheogen-accessed intensive testing of personal control power drives a change of mental worldmodel from the Possibilism to the Eternalism mental model of time, self, and control.

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Group: egodeath Message: 7433 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
Non-drug unity meditation, go to Hell, where you came from.

THE MEDITATION BACKLASH

Non-drug unity meditation was a product of Nixon’s War on Drugs, which was always entirely fraudulent and never had anything to do with protecting people.

Drug prohibition is and was always entirely a power-play, self-centered, by politicians and demagogues, a cover, a pretense, a bluff, a strategy of suppressing antiwar people and minorities.

Boycott meditation: it is tainted and corrupted by Prohibition lies.

Don’t say anything positive about meditation; verbally throw rocks at it to reveal the truth: it is part of The System, the scam, a phony replacement that serves to do away with actual effective entheogen-based meditation.

I’m not playing along with Meditation Lite and its lies and false promises, wolves in sheep’s clothing. Neither should any entheogen advocate or Eternalist or investigator of religious mythology, or researcher of cybernetics.

Meditation is recognized as The Enemy just like other institutionalized religion that serves to substitute for and prevent actual religion.

To Hell with non-drug unity meditation, an enabling, collaborationist part of THE LIE of egoic false reality.

Down with meditation; down with Prohibition!

— Cybermonk
Group: egodeath Message: 7436 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
We’re sick and tired of wanking around with all this substitute pseudo-religion, sick of playing along with anti-entheogen pretense. Tired of all these avoidance and suppression techniques.

We have HAD IT with all this phony academic dishonest *apologetics* for the antidrug status quo.

Stop parrotting the status quo narrative, an incoherent narrative that totally flies in the face of the abundant plethora of evidence to the contrary.

Can’t you academics do anything other than posture and put out waffling self-contradictory doubletalk like Richard Evans Schultes’ Golden Book of Denial of Visionary Plants in White Religion?

Psychoactive plants are THE source of white religion and all religion. Stop trying to suppress that!

Stop scrambling to outdo each others’ cowtowing compliance to tell some tale, any tale you can dream of as a cover to deny the sensible reality that makes sense, which is the Maximal Entheogen Theory of Religion and Culture.

The only thing that you have had to present us with so far is head scratching, “We can’t figure it out, it doesn’t make any sense, the ancients had some strange psychology, we just can’t figure it out” — you’re losers! That tale, that narrative is a complete failure!

On the basis of entheogen suppression, what remains for you to tout is, you have nothing but a bunch of anthropological nonsense, evolutionism dogma: “We are too evolved to be able to figure out the coherent intelligible meaning of religious mythology and those mysterious mushroom-shaped objects.”

Come on off it, this is ridiculous! What an *embarrassment* academic scholarship is, under this bogus paradigm of entheogen diminishment, suppression, and denial.

Stop beating around the bush, quit all these avoidance and suppression strategies, and do some actual bona fide scholarly research and theorizing that actually makes sense and is intelligible, for once.

John Rush and other entheogen scholars have broken away from your Prohibition-compliant simpering academic apologetics serving to direct people away from coherence and truth.

You are academic Tools of The System, for hire; “Will write for hire, apologetics against drugs in white religion”.

Give us a reason to pay any attention to academic research. We have given up on you as hopelessly compromised and complicit with Prohibition censorship, mental censorship.

We have broken off to form an independent basis of theory and data collection not subject to your masters who chain your thinking, the Old Guard.

We have broken away to form an independent basis of authority, the scientific rational Enlightenment, against you old guard authorities, slaves of Prohibition dogma and taboo.

— Cybermonk
Group: egodeath Message: 7437 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
Subject: Re: The religion of Christian Cybernetic Egodeath
This is self-defeating toxic Prohibitionist baloney:

“While recognizing that governments have a vested interest in reducing the impact of recreational drug use and abuse within their territories,”

We recognize that Prohibition is a sham, thoroughly fraudulent, nothing but a power play by tyrants, invented by Nixon. Impeach Nixon’s phony WOD and burn his fraudulent “drug schedules”.

— We The People
Group: egodeath Message: 7438 From: egodeath Date: 22/12/2015
Subject: Re: Understand it’s a world of outsiders
Psilocybin is the long-sought bridge between the two cultures: STEM and the Humanities; reconciling Science and Religion, by revealing Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism.

American Science purged of Weimar Copenhagenism asserts no-free-will.

Religious mythology when deciphered, decrypted, and decoded into its Cybernetics referent, asserts no-free-will.

Science and Religion are corrected and made coherent by psilocybin and are thus each rationalized and then reconciled.

Psilocybin is the bridge that unifies Science and Religion, through inducing loose cognitive binding and then driving the mind into Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism.

— Professor Loosecog
Group: egodeath Message: 7439 From: egodeath Date: 23/12/2015
Subject: Nondual unity = lesser mysteries != inside boundary
Exploring loosecog space, entheogen space, one big broad region is weak and incomplete accessing of nondual unity consciousness, but most specially and exclusive is a bounded zone with a gate.

Many explore nondual unity to a limited extent, but few make it past the guarded gate into the walled garden where the real party is, the god’s wedding banquet that he brings his inner circle devotees, his full initiates, into.

The control seizure vortex is the gate. Maidens are running away fleeing from the monster at that gate, they turn to look back at the gate while they flee away from it in terror, running away from the threat of loss of control.

The maidens, explorers of personal control cybernetics steering in the loose cognitive binding state, seek unity nondual awareness, but they flee from control loss, control instability.

Those on the inside have full unity nondual awareness and have fully transformed their thinking to remove the original, Possibilism impurity.

To remain inside the garden past the guarded gate, your mental model must be fully transformed from Possibilism to Eternalism.

Before, I envisioned a space of loosecog to explore and I pictured a beacon to discover, an object, a mental dynamic.

But now I recognize the control-seizure panic vortex as a gate to pass through into a bounded, walled zone, a set-apart and guarded space within the exploration-space of the loosecog realm.

You can picture it as a hilltop shrouded in mist fenced off and gated.

Those who are lower on the hill try to climb and they are repelled at the gate by a threatening dragon at the control seizure vortex gate.

Or the narrow bridge over the boundary river to the land of the Dead.

Those who are past the gate and remain peacefully banqueting within the gate above the layer of mist, inside the elevated walled area, have fully transformed from the Possibilism to the Eternalism mental model of time, self, and control.

Psychedelics explorers can remain dabbling in a degree of unity nonduality, only rarely trying to crash the gate but fleeing to save control stability and preserve practical control power. These I characterized as beginners.

They think they are exploring nonduality loosecog space, but they have not broken through the gate into the inner gated zone.

This is the exclusive, separated exploration space *within* the entheogenic exploration space, like the hill-island in the lake in Golden Gate Park in San Francisco with a dragon guarding the footbridge to it.

They are outsiders within the entheogen exploration realm, who are not within the protected fenced-off zone and they are unable to venture through the gate, they know not the password, ‘Eternalism’.

Martin Ball and Ken Wilber — how well can they get past this control-seizure compatibility testing gate to enter into the protected inner zone?

They are limited to the outside; they don’t have a Dead ticket to get inside the venue to the main event; they are stuck out in the parking lot of enlightenment, in Shakedown Street.

They don’t have an All-Access Pass to freely go in and out through the control-seizure testing gate.

— Cybermonk
Group: egodeath Message: 7440 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Re: Nondual unity = lesser mysteries != inside boundary
Where I am going, through the flaming gate, you cannot go yet, because you are still in your sin and you cannot yet bear and endure what I have to inform you.

You cannot yet mentally demonstrate that controller X can make your higher thinking put any control-thought into your head.

To pass through this gate, you must bow to fate and sacrifice your freewill [{foreskin}, {first-born}, Possibilism thinking].

That is how those on the inside in the savior’s wedding banquet were brought there: the savior took away their freewill thinking, made them (as local control-agents) bow to fate in submission to fatedness.


Dare to look, face the test, I can’t conceal it like I did before. With what you’ve been taught, you set sailing. Finally led to a way of thinking, will the acid test ocean still find cybernetic stable practical control sinking?


Suppose Sam Harris has had 1 loosecog session. He asserts no-free-will.

Can he pass through the winnowing gate into the inner sanctum Eternalism zone inside the loosecog realm?

Not until his thinking is so purified and restructured that he can stably endure daring to look at his dependency on preset fated control thoughts which he receives from nowhere.

A tape spews forth from the rock cave saying: now you will think this.

Now you will think that.

Now you will realize that you are utterly helplessly subservient to this instruction tape coming from nowhere.


Your higher thinking is in control of your unchained mind and controller X is in control of your higher thinking.

You can do anything.

You will choose to do what you have been made to choose to do.

Divine higher transcendent thinking reveals that you can think anything and put lower thinking to the test.

You can be made by the preset uncontrollable control rail to do anything that controller X has fated you to do.

You can only *discover* what control-thoughts have been placed ahead on your snake-shaped worldline cast in the rock.

You have no choice but to utterly depend on this control-tape spewing out from nowhere.

When its givenness of control-thoughts was obscured, the mind formed an egoic model of autonomy, self-command.

Now that the givenness of control-thoughts is revealed as being concealed, your center of control origination shifts from illusory self as control originator to the hidden puppetmaster as originator.

Those who have been forced and fated to be purified and made completely developed, are brought by the groom abducted into inside his gated guarded wedding chamber past the angel’s flaming sword which kills the egoic self-control origination illusion.

Any tripper like Martin Ball is permitted a tantalizing taste of unity consciousness, but a few loosecog sessions only provides a transient preliminary glimpse and then when you get close to inside, you get thrown into panic seizure and are ejected by your incompatible, impure, immature, weak, Possibilism-thinking.

It feels shameful and embarrassing to a supposed advocate of no-free-will when they realize how shot-through their own thinking still is with freewill thinking.

No-free-will advocates discover that their own thinking has continued to be premised on freewill thinking.

Trembling, they eventually perceive the embarrassing depth of their mental hypocrisy and finally the freewill demon is exorcised when they fully realize their utter dependency on uncontrollable controller X that already cast in stone their near-future thoughts unchangeably and realize that it is impossible to steer away from them, and that fully developed satisfactory enlightenment depends on testing and demonstrating the inability to avoid the radical testing-thoughts.

God tested Abraham and forced him to will to sacrifice his future viable control power.

Only this can satisfy the logical demand of rationality about control transcendence.

— Cybermonk
Group: egodeath Message: 7441 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Re: Nondual unity = lesser mysteries != inside boundary
To pass through this gate to the insiders’ zone of unity awareness, you must be made to bow to fate, you must be made to accept whatever your preset thoughts turn out to be, and you must be made to sacrifice your freewill Possibilism thinking.

To move from outsiders’ unstable unity awareness, through the gate of cybernetic control death, to insiders’ stable unity awareness, you must be brought to full conscious awareness of complete dependency on the uncontrollable thought-source coming from nowhere, which always underlies any illusory control power which the old illusory center of control appeared to have.

— Cybermonk
Group: egodeath Message: 7442 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct

{fire} refers to the loose cognitive binding state of consciousness.  Loose cog tests the mind’s initial Possibilism thinking and causes it to fail and be revealed as based on illusory premises and mis-perception.  A series of loosecog sessions drives mental worldmodel transformation to the mental model which endures the testing in the loosecog state, the Eternalism model of the world and of personal control in that world.


{philosopher roasting salamander in fire} refers to the mind in the loosecog state (induced by psilocybin) transforming the mental model from Possibilism to Eternalism.  


{salamander} generally represents the mind’s mental worldmodel of time, self, control, and possibility, and specifically represents the Eternalism model.  It represents mind in transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism, from egoic thinking to transcendent thinking.


The Holy Mushroom: Articles


The Witches’ Ointment: Videos


Book: The Witches’ Ointment


Religious mythology refers to Entheogenic Eternalism.  Religious mythology doesn’t simply refer to entheogens per the Irvin/Ruck/Rush shallow superficial theory.  


Sacrifice the unicorn.  Unicorn refers to the Possibilism mental model.  


Salamander refers to the Eternalism mental model.  Burn off unicorn-thinking to result in salamander-thinking.  I immediately decoded that today when reading Hatsis’ expose of the weakness of the way Irvin/Ruck/Rush handle evidence.  


Hatsis’ context, his material and his critical attitude, made the decoding easy; if salamander is not Amanita, what is it that survives fire?  Religious mythology is a riddle, and the Egodeath theory (Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism transformation) is the solution to the riddle.  


We already know that, from my posts; I already have identified that which  survives fire: correct thinking; Possibilism thinking is burned away by fire, and then transformed, Eternalism thinking, purified, comes out on the other side of the angel’s furnace gate.



My favorite strangeness is when I was reading Ruck’s incorrect long-shot interpretation of Mithras’ cape as red and white — meanwhile Ruck wrote nothing in his passage, I double-checked and I couldn’t believe it, Ruck wrote nothing about the clear, blue psilocybe mushroom in Mithras’ leg.  


So I’ve seen multiple cases where the Ruck long-shot interpretation rendered him unable to focus on other, strong entheogen indications in the piece of art under examination.  


The other case is Entheos journal, a depiction of a mushroom tree next to a mandrake tree, the latter passed without comment, astoundingly, at least I was unable to find any mention of it in caption or text.



A big underlying reason for the not-ringing-true of the Ruck/Rush/Irvin interpretation is that they are not applying the Egodeath theory, specifically the Entheogenic Eternalism theory of religious mythology.  


It is challenging to define and make the case for my boldly forced interpretation, Entheogenic Eternalism.  But it is even much more difficult to make the case for the off-base, mis-focused theory, the Entheogen theory of religious mythology lacking Eternalism theory.  


I am theory-based, not evidence-based, and my mission is a tight theory — not historical accuracy.  The first order of business is to initially define a tight, clear, distinctive theory of religion and of interpretation of evidence.  


Without the Egodeath theory, especially without Eternalism and the explanation of loose cognitive binding enabling mental worldmodel transformation from the Possibilism to the Eternalism mental worldmodel of time, self, and control, entheogen theorists are only playing with half a deck, half the required pieces of a viable solution.  


The labor of forced interpretation is hard enough when you have both pieces — entheogens and Eternalism.  The case is doubly hard to make when you have conceptual incoherence by advancing the entheogen theory of interpretation without leveraging the partner theory, which is the Eternalism interpretation.  


If the fire-purified, fire-impervious salamander doesn’t represent an element from the domain of entheogen plants, what better domain could it refer to?  


The true primary referent domain of religious mythology is not visionary plants, but rather, that which they reveal, which is mental worldmodel transformation to Eternalism.  


King doesn’t refer to king.  Wine doesn’t refer to wine.  Salamander doesn’t refer to salamander.  Unicorn doesn’t refer to unicorn.  Maiden doesn’t refer to maiden.  


Mythemes don’t refer primarily to mushrooms.  Close but no cigar; no death and rebirth yet, there, into a new mental model of world and personal control agency.  


Mythemes refer to the mushroom-revealed Eternalism mental worldmodel transformation.


— Michael Hoffman, the theorist of Egodeath, decoder of religious mythology as Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism


Group: egodeath Message: 7443 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
I meant to link to *this* page of videos.

The Holy Mushroom: Videos

 



Group: egodeath Message: 7444 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
I am not a Christian Mushroom Cult theorist.  
I am a Christian Mushroom Eternalism theorist.  

I am a critic of the adequacy of the Ruck/Irvin/Rush view.  Ruck/Irvin/Rush advocate the Christian Mushroom theory, which is incomplete, and which is false insofar as it poses as complete and claims to have identified the primary referent of myth.

The Christian Mushroom theory lacks Eternalism and — despite Ruck’s book title, which is mispreresentative of his thinking and his book’s content — Ruck lacks cognitive phenomenology.

A bestiary is a book of myth.  Therefore it is a book of religious mythology.  Therefore it is a book of metaphors describing entheogen-revealed Eternalism.

Animals in myth are analogies to, and metaphors for, mental model transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism, as a model of the world, and a model of personal steering power of control in that world.

— Professor Loosecog
 
Group: egodeath Message: 7446 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
From one of Hatsis’ articles:
“how will Mushroom Cult theorists contend with these trees from bestiaries—red capped, complete with spots?
Is this asp from the Aberdeen Bestiary (12th century) clinging to a “mushroom-tree?” After all, the top is red with passable “white spots.”
Where do asps fit into the Christian Mushroom Cult theory? Also in need of explaination [sic] … violence … “


This thought leapt to mind:
“Jesus dude, stop wasting time reading that Irvin shit and learn the Egodeath theory — illiterate!”

And quit saying “mushroom cult”. Whatever theory you think you are refuting, is irrelevant. All the connections around “mushroom cult” are wrong. It isn’t 1970 anymore. Stop letting Allegro set the limits of your horizon of thinking.

Hatsis is just leading himself further into confusion by reading inferior writers. He needs to learn the Egodeath theory, which is substantially different than Hatsis’ fabricated imagining of a “mushroom cult theory”.

Hatsis is taking the Letcher position: fixate on an imagined variant of entheogen theory and then shadow-box that — a straw man argument.

Better, profitable, with a chance of insight and viable theory, would be to critique the Egodeath theory including the 100% Entheogenic 100% Eternalism theory of religious mythology.

Stop fixating on your imagined “mushroom cult” theory and reorient critical thinking around the Egodeath theory.

I don’t even know what you mean by “mushroom cult” except it is an assumed minimalist Entheogen theory of religion. I reject the minimalist Entheogen theory of religion.

All religion is understood to be based on mushrooms. That is the theory to critique. Hatsis is wasting his time focusing on some other, imagined foe.
Group: egodeath Message: 7447 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Re: Definitions, glossary, terms, terminology, abbreviations, acrony
Egodeath bestiary decodings include
Snake
Dragon
Horse
Donkey
Stag
Unicorn
Salamander
Owl (not posted?)
Sphinx
Hydra
Centaur
Goat
Ram

Search Egodeath Yahoo group
Group: egodeath Message: 7448 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Re: Definitions, glossary, terms, terminology, abbreviations, acrony
bestiary refers to a set of animal descriptions which map to entheogen eternalism
Group: egodeath Message: 7449 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Re: Definitions, glossary, terms, terminology, abbreviations, acrony
Basilisk
Group: egodeath Message: 7450 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
There are no secular books, per the 100% Entheogen Theory of Religion and Culture. A bestiary is a religious book.

Ruck/Irvin/Rush is blind: he sees mushrooms everywhere.

If Ruck/Irvin/Rush wasn’t blind, he would see the mushroom-revealed Eternalism depictions everywhere.
Group: egodeath Message: 7451 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
Hatsis = outsiders critiquing outsiders’ attempts to solve the riddle of religious mythology. The result is confusions upon confusions. It’s a hopeless unraveling problem; they’ll never get it unraveled in any finite time. It’s a malformed criticism of a malformed theory.

The right, effective approach is to start with the Egodeath theory and explain from there and critique from there.
Group: egodeath Message: 7452 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
To interpret any item in question, consider the most distinctive position at the right-hand end of three spectrums.

Where these three spectrums intersect at the right-most extreme position is Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism.

The combination of three spectrums at the *left*-hand end is Literalist OSC Possibilism.

To interpret item X, consider how item X is interpreted by those two distinctive easily identifiable positions where the three spectrums’ extreme endpoints intersect or combine.

How does Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism interpret the item?
How does Literalist OSC Possibilism interpret the item?
Group: egodeath Message: 7453 From: egodeath Date: 24/12/2015
Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
There is really no focus on the concept of secret in the theory

there is the concept of insiders to understand the analogies and outsiders who fail to understand the analogies

and there is instead what I have instead of the concept of secret is the concept of veiling, that there is a veil hiding the source of control thoughts when the mind is in the tight cognitive state
Group: egodeath Message: 7454 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
The man with his hand to his forehead is turning to the right like looking behind him and he is on one leg which is a common theme.

There are connections and associations among all mytheme instances.

From the perspective of 100% Metaphorical Entheogenic Eternalism, what linkage connection associations are there in each of the elements of this picture isomorphic with all other mythology pictures or pictograms, pictorial diagram elements?

Do not analyze elements in isolation; analyze elements in groups spanning all altered state artwork and themes.

Analyze = break out each element:
Mushroom tree refers to loose cognitive binding
Salamander in flames refers to durability of Eternalism
Hand to head refers to poisoned egoic thinking
One leg raised refers to having egoic and transcendent mental models
Head turned right refers to remembering Transcendent Knowledge

Forget this picture as a whole; instead focus on themes interpreted across all art interpreted by 100% Metaphorical 100% Entheogenic 100% Eternalism.

Psilocybin poisons and kills the Possibilism mental model of time, self, and control, in the loose cognitive binding state, producing the Eternalism mental model of time, self, and control, which withstands the revising force of loosecog. Psilocybin causes an experience of remembering (deja vu) cybernetic self- control Eternalism.

You are left with a combination of Eternalism thinking and qualified Possibilism thinking.

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Group: egodeath Message: 7455 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
What Hatsis registers as a problem, does not register as a problem at all from the Egodeath theory.

There’s no conflict between the text and the image.

I’ve seen at least one Greek statue propped up by a debranched tree trunk that instead of the normal snake per the staff of Asclepis has a lizard, thus establishing an equivalence between lizard and Heimarmene worldline snake.

Two out of three images which Hatsis shows, depict a serpent in the tree or in the flames, not a lizard or salamander. So we get straight into the heart of the image of the snake versus tree, where the snake terminates in the fruit of the tree, and we have the Genesis question of “Will you die from the fruit, as God says, or will you not die, as the wise crafty serpent declares?”

You have the association of the serpent leading up to, in his mouth, the fruit, which God and the snake debate.

You will kind of die and you will kind of not die.

You will die and you will not die. Hatsis is perfectly naive using ‘die’. He is ignorant of egodeath.


You will and won’t die. Will you die from eating the serpent-poisoned fruit? Yes and no. The egoic freewill self-concept and world model dies.

We have this poison fruit which poisons the mental model and kills it, leaving you alive with a new different mental model.

Now I am transformed, and when you put me in the flames, or you put me in a sea-storm, I calm the sea-storm.

I have the magical power to raise storms and calm storms.

I have the magical power to create flames and put out flames.

I am an indestructible salamander that is not only immune to the flames, I am so cold I put out the flames.

So there is no conflict between the text and the image.

The Egodeath theory — the Entheogenic Eternalism theory of mythology — enables reconciling and making sense out of this text in conjunction with making sense out of the imagery in the several depictions of the so-called salamander which Hatsis puts forth.

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Group: egodeath Message: 7456 From: egodeath Date: 25/12/2015
Subject: Re: Entheogen theory of myth is half-correct
Carl Ruck can’t handle the entheogen theory of myth. He caved and got Hatsis to dissuade him from seeing that a mushroom tree depicts a mushroom.

I am a super genius and I have a ultraradical theory that when you see a mushroom depicted in religious mythology, the secret hidden meaning of that is a mushroom. I am so brilliant and radical to accomplish this decryption, this decoding, this decipherment.

Here is how very far off of the scent, far from the trail, Hatsis is: he does not recognize the bestiary as a religious mythology collection.

Now Ruck has been coerced into saying that this mushroom tree does not depict mushrooms. He is utterly wrong. How can his instinct of interpretation be so weak?

This is what Ruck gets for not applying my theory of interpretation, which glues together these interpretation items that Ruck can only present as isolated assertions.

The Entheogen theory of myth without the Eternalism theory of myth is weak and incoherent, inadequate to glue together a robust interpretation that coheres.

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