Egodeath Yahoo Group – Digest 182: 2018-09-11

The Egodeath Theory:

Religious Mythology Describes Peak-State Control Cancellation in Block-Universe Eternalism


Religious Mythology Describes Altered-State Control Cancellation in Block-Universe Eternalism

Religious Mythology Describes Control-Cancellation in Altered-State Block-Universe Eternalism

Religious Mythology Describes Altered-State Experiencing of Control Cancellation in Block-Universe Eternalism

Altered-State Control Cancellation in Block-Universe Eternalism


The Egodeath theory is the most awesome achievement ever; it is mythic, not just epic. Engineering/STEM produced the Egodeath theory.

The Egodeath theory is a fundamental of, and a prerequisite for, Psychedelic Cognitive Science.


Cybernetic Eternalism

Mythology Describes Loose-Cognitive Experiencing of Cybernetic Block-Universe Eternalism

Mythology Describes Cybernetic Self-Control Cancellation in Loose-Cognitive Block-Universe Eternalism

Cybernetic Cancellation in Loose-Cognitive Block-Universe Eternalism

Cybernetic Cancellation in Block-Universe Eternalism

Cybernetic Cancellation in Psychedelic Block-Universe Eternalism

Entheogenists and psycholyticists say ‘psychedelic’ connotes goofy ’60s style.


Mythology as Block-Universe Eternalism

That title is impressive only if you tremble knowingly already at the words ‘iron block universe’ or ‘Eternalism’, but lacks mention of cybernetic noncontrol, which is the Core theory’s point:

Eternalism experiencing causes ego transcendence in the form of cybernetic noncontrol, cybernetic control-cancellation, which is of top interest and excitement.

Not “Let’s make Dionysus boring.”

What if you hate mythology, “myth and religion is irrational propaganda for Science to refute and overthrow” a la James Kent?

To the scorched-earth anti-religion atheist, providing a breakthrough decoding of religious mythology is seen as a negative, as condoning and excusing irrationalism; instead, the loose-cognitive discovery and explanatory mapping of no-free-will block-universe Eternalism, as an innate potential of the mind, is the positive and exciting contribution.


Mythology Describes Control Cancellation in Loose-Cognitive Experiencing of Block-Universe Eternalism

Mythology Describes Control Cancellation in Altered-State Experiencing of Block-Universe Eternalism

Experiencing Control Cancellation in Block-Universe Eternalism

Control-Cancellation in Loose-Cognitive Block-Universe Eternalism

Mythology as Control-Cancellation in Loose-Cognitive Block-Universe Eternalism


The Egodeath theory consists of core and myth:

Core:
The Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence
The Loose-Cognitive Cybernetic Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence
The Loose-Cognitive, Non-control Block-Universe Eternalism Theory of Ego Transcendence

Myth:
Decoding Religious Mythology as Description of Block-Universe Eternalism


The Egodeath theory is a great interesting theory of myth and a great interesting theory about control-cancellation in the experiencing of block-universe/worldline Eternalism, as the real nature of ego transcendence.

The Egodeath theory makes readily available the discovery of the potential of the mind to enter God-mode metaprogramming to demonstrate ways to transcend and disrupt and test and seize personal control power, like a coupling of powers that kills the previous mode and gives rise to a new self-conception as control agent or locus of control agency.

The Egodeath theory is by far the most interesting, exciting, Science-revolutionary, useful, and valuable.

The title, the elaborated content, the subtitle, and the summary of the Egodeath theory conveys how superlatively interesting, exciting, thrilling, numinous, and valuable, the Egodeath theory is.

Loose-cognitive cybernetic control seizure and transformation, as described by religious mythology, is explained and made fully known, mapped out, described and explained by this condensed, cogent summarized theory.

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The peak mystic altered state as ultimate value

Value-laden phrases: peak state, high culture, ultimate concerns, our highest values, the greatest mysteries, peak experiencing, the profoundly numinous and meaningful, self-transcendence, high art, the transcendent, the Most High, revelation of heaven, higher consciousness, higher education.
The Egodeath theory explains the highest, greatest values, the ultimate and most valuable mysteries, as the world’s most successful and most valuable and useful explanatory theory.

The value of the Core theory and of the Myth Decoding theory, mutually support each other, having the ultimate value both when considered independently and when combined together.

The Core theory (of 1988-1997) is the most interesting, and more so when myth-decoding is explained and discovered too.

The most interesting, highest ideas in the world

All kinds of questions, topics, issues, mysteries, are solved by this maximum explanatory power of the Egodeath theory,
making sense of Reformed theology,
mythology,
psychedelics phenomenology,
entheogenic cognitive phenomenology,
schizophrenia,
religious themes,
Western Esotericism,
models of time in Physics and Metaphysics,
a better version of “free will vs. determinism”, than causal-chain determinism
understanding the essential meaning of the Mystery Religions,
connecting with Western Civilization,
recognizing the meaning of dragons and monstrous serpents in world religion,
understanding the entheogenic access to world religions,
wondering about the New Testament’s spiritual Christ experience and the Holy Spirit from the Eucharist
— all mysteries, all that is veiled, shall be revealed, by the Egodeath theory.

The highest values are religion and Science, the mystic state, and Mystery Religions with mythology; high culture: all is explained by the Egodeath theory, which can justify and corroborate these values.

The ultimate, highest potential of the mind is the religious altered state, revealing the nature of personal control in the mind across time.

These cultural peak values can be justified by the Egodeath theory of innate cognitive development from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Altered-state Eternalism.


Boring, overformal, roundabout, and limited: the Old Theory:

The Ken Wilber “nondrug meditation Nondual Unity Oneness” theory of what ego transcendence is about

The Martin Ball “entheogenic Nondual Unity Oneness” theory of what ego transcendence and mystic-state revelation is about.

— Michael Hoffman
September 10, 2018

Highest value: explaining loosecog Eternalism

The thing of greatest value is systematically explaining altered-state Eternalism and its qualification of Possibilism-thinking, as the Egodeath theory does.

1. Transformation of the mental worldmodel from ordinary-state Possibilism to the altered-state Eternalism model of time and control, is more developed than only having the mental worldmodel of Possibilism.

2. A distinct argument is that the highest value in human experience (or at least *a* highest value), is transformation to altered-state Eternalism.


Postulate 1. A mental state that is more developed than and more valuable than ordinary-state Possibilism, is altered-state Eternalism.

Eternalism-thinking (preserving Possibilism-thinking) is better than Possibilism-thinking without having Eternalism-thinking.

Having Eternalism-thinking as well as (now qualified) Possibilism-thinking is better and more valuable than having Possibilism-thinking but being ignorant of Eternalism-thinking.


Postulate 2. The (or a) most valuable thing in the world is transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism.

Having Eternalism-thinking and (qualified) Possibilism-thinking is better and more valuable than anything else in the world.

People report that psilocybin was *one of* their most important experiences (though they are far from understanding Eternalism and mythology) — not necessarily *the* most important experience.

The New Testament holds that equally important as the revelation of Eternalism, is societal structuring; the revelation of Eternalism is *an* ultimate value, not the *only* ultimate value.

Eternalism is *an* ultimate value, if not *the* ultimate value; nothing is more valuable than the loose-cognitive revelation of Eternalism fully explained by Science per the Egodeath theory.

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It is conventionally agreed by many people throughout history that religion, Mystery Religions, mystic state revelation, self-transcendence, is the highest value.

This value must be judged by late-modern Science, even if Science cannot assess value and only gives “is”, not “ought”.


The argument from “transcend and include” and the traditional, religious-mythology analogy of “non-initiate = child/animal”:

Why the sacred meal and its sacrifice and prayer and re-stabilization of control (the loosecog Eternalism revelation and resultant mental transformation) are better than, more developed than, higher than, superior to, and more valuable than ordinary-state Possibilism thinking:

Cognitive developmental psychology, in the Egodeath theory, finds and discovers that metaprogramming and analysis of how the mind works, uncovers and accesses potential dynamics of the mind that are outside and beyond the ordinary state of consciousness, preserving the familiar cognitive structures and worldmodel, while adding another, contrasting worldmodel, per Ken Wilber’s concept of “transcend and include”.

By Wilber’s definition of “transcend and include the lower structures”, loose cognitive Eternalism as a new, more stable model of time and control, transcends the ordinary-state Possibilism model of time and control.

Altered-state Eternalism including its “sacrifice and prayer” and restabilization dynamics, is more developed and refined than Ordinary-state Possibilism.

The intense mystic altered-state is not “non-rational”; the mind moves from the tight cognitive binding state which includes some rationalist based on that experiential state, to the loose cognitive binding state which includes rationality now informed by that experiential state.

Non-rationality is a useless, irrelevant concept.

What matters, an accurate characterization, is two experiential states.

Rationality is increased by further developing rationality within the loosecog experiential state, modifying the incorrect rationality, incoherence regarding control and time, from the initial, ordinary state.

Both the initial ordinary state and the later altered state are innate potentials of the mind, and the mind is structured so as to first produce half-baked rationality like that of animals and children, and then to produce corrected rationality and integrity like that of the initiated, rationally purified adult.

Adding the sacred meal-induced loosecog state repeatedly, caused mental developing in a religious and mythology-described, analogy-leveraging direction, while preserving previous quasi-rational thinking as relatively undeveloped, “childish thinking”.

Upon experiencing and understanding loosecog Eternalism, the mind puts away childish thinking, while preserving, cherishing, and retaining that more primitive, less rational, animal-like way of thinking about control and time.

— Michael Hoffman
September 11, 2018


The peak mystic altered state as ultimate value

Value-laden phrases: peak state, high culture, ultimate concerns, our highest values, the greatest mysteries, peak experiencing, the profoundly numinous and meaningful, self-transcendence, high art, the transcendent, the Most High, revelation of heaven, higher consciousness, higher education.

The Egodeath theory explains the highest, greatest values, the ultimate and most valuable mysteries, as the world’s most successful and most valuable and useful explanatory theory.

The value of the Core theory and of the Myth Decoding theory, mutually support each other, having the ultimate value both when considered independently and when combined together.

The Core theory (of 1988-1997) is the most interesting, and more so when myth-decoding is explained and discovered too.

The most interesting, highest ideas in the world

All kinds of questions, topics, issues, mysteries, are solved by this maximum explanatory power of the Egodeath theory,
making sense of Reformed theology,
mythology,
psychedelics phenomenology,
entheogenic cognitive phenomenology,
schizophrenia,
religious themes,
Western Esotericism,
models of time in Physics and Metaphysics,
a better version of “free will vs. determinism”, than causal-chain determinism
understanding the essential meaning of the Mystery Religions,
connecting with Western Civilization,
recognizing the meaning of dragons and monstrous serpents in world religion,
understanding the entheogenic access to world religions,
wondering about the New Testament’s spiritual Christ experience and the Holy Spirit from the Eucharist
— all mysteries, all that is veiled, shall be revealed, by the Egodeath theory.

The highest values are religion and Science, the mystic state, and Mystery Religions with mythology; high culture: all is explained by the Egodeath theory, which can justify and corroborate these values.

The ultimate, highest potential of the mind is the religious altered state, revealing the nature of personal control in the mind across time.

These cultural peak values can be justified by the Egodeath theory of innate cognitive development from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Metaphorical Altered-state Eternalism.


Boring, overformal, roundabout, and limited: the Old Theory:

The Ken Wilber “nondrug meditation Nondual Unity Oneness” theory of what ego transcendence is about

The Martin Ball “entheogenic Nondual Unity Oneness” theory of what ego transcendence and mystic-state revelation is about.

— Michael Hoffman
September 10, 2018

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People *talk about* “Western and Greek and European heritage” and “the spirit of bold adventure” — yet don’t see that the core of that Greek heritage is {mushroom wine revealing Eternalism}, as the highest value in the Western/Greek heritage — a value that is rediscovered and truly explained in a scientifically adequate way for the first time, by the Egodeath theory.


Highest victory, laurel wreath:
The hero-model Apollo gets laurel crown wreath for victory over the dragon. Laurel = mainly nonbranching. Dragon = snake = nonbranching, vs. the possibility-branching tree with the control-agent person as a king seeming to steer.

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Theorem about values, justifying culture’s valuation of psychedelics and the resulting experiential insight of Eternalism/non-control:

The mind is structured such that the highest desire and drive is Transcendent Knowledge, of loosecog Eternalism.


Valuing psychedelics insofar as culture values the “block-universe Eternalism/noncontrol” insight which is revealed by psychedelics, is distinct from the New Testament’s mundane valuing of a just society.

Revaluing values: justifying values.

The loosecog state (which comes from psychedelics) and its revelation of Eternalism are of highest value, as religion and Greco/Roman/Jewish/Christian culture asserts.

The New Testament is complex: *a* goal, a highest value in the New Testament, is psychedelic Eternalism. An ultimate value in the New Testament is loosecog Eternalism.

One kind of righteousness in the New Testament is righteousness per the Holy Spirit (metaphysical enlightenment about personal control in light of Eternalism).

Metaphysical enlightenment about loosecog Eternalism is one of the ultimate values in the New Testament.


Only care about the Core aspects of Psychedelics, or of the New Testament. One of the two ultimate values in the New Testament is loosecog Eternalism.

— Michael Hoffman
September 2, 2018

It is better to understand psychedelic block-universe Eternalism and its prayer and sacrifice, than to only have ordinary-state Possibilism-thinking.

Exploring Cognitive Science with higher dosage than in Psychedelic Neuroscience, requires the suitable stable foundation of control that the Egodeath theory identifies in religious mythology, a relationship of sacrifice and prayer when relating to or identifying with the uncontrollable transcendent source of control-thoughts.

The Psycholytic Cognitive Science explorer is like a helpless female thought-receiver; the uncontrollable source of personal control-thoughts is like a male overpowering and rapturing the female.

The Egodeath theory is required, for people to make good on the trendy promising psychedelic Cognitive Science, Psychedelic Neuroscience, which is inauthentic in that it deliberately avoided dosage levels that put the mind into the truly interesting, unstable, region of sacred danger.

Psychedelic Neuroscience held back in the threshold, not passing through the door.

To pass through this gate into the promised land, receiving a kind of transcendent control of thinking, requires the Egodeath theory: requires understanding block-universe Eternalism noncontrol experience, and “sacrifice and prayer” to gain stability and retain enlightenment, the revelation of profound dependence on the pre-existing rail of personal control-thoughts in the future — a pre-existing control-rail that the local control agent didn’t create and doesn’t control and cannot steer away from.

Greco-Roman culture — the roots of Western Civilization — was highly aware of the uncontrollable snake-shaped worldline control rail frozen in the rock of the unchangeable block universe.

Psychedelic Neuroscience is not yet informed of the monstrous dragon of worldline-given instability hiding in the rock in the wellspring of control-thoughts in the rock cave of the mind, in the altered state.

Would-be Cognitive Psychedelicists will flee like maidens washing clothes, in terror of abduction by the foreign male hero, kicked out of the gated garden by their own lack of compatibility with seeing and experiencing Eternalism, their own inability to put trust in the alien, uncontrollable source of their own control-thoughts.

The first order of discovery and research in Psychedelic Cognitive Science is the Egodeath theory: the dynamics of control stabilization in the altered state.

Both, in conjunction, are a prerequisite for general-purpose Psychedelic Cognitive Science, and are the first order of business to study:
o The study of cybernetic noncontrol in the Eternalism block universe with personal-control worldline.
o The study of religious mythology, which is a rich body of description of the dynamics of control in light of Eternalism.

Block universe, worldline, and Eternalism
Religious mythology

Psychedelic Cognitive Science brings loose cognitive association binding, from psychedelics, but first must confront “the shadow”, of uncontrollable pre-given control-thoughts, and not just expect the sensation of nondual unity oneness.

The shadow that bedevils the attempt for nontrivial-dosage Psychedelic Cognitive Science, is block-universe worldline Eternalism no-free-will, and religious mythology describing grappling with that cybernetic transformation of mental worldmodel, as explained by the Egodeath theory.

— Michael Hoffman
September 11, 2018

Revising the main article

Two versions of revising my main article:
1. Mandatory: minimal fixes
2. Nice todo: rewrite/ expansion/ filtering-out non-essentials


http://egodeath.com/EntheogenTheoryOfReligion.htm


1. Simplest/quickest approach: what are the fewest revisions to fix the main article? Required spot-fixes, remaining “the same article”:

Critical required omissions:
o Huge oversight/omission: tree/snake (implies several pics)

Critical required terminology corrections:
o Just wrong: “block-universe Eternalism” instead of “Determinism”. Stanford Online Encyclopedia of Philosophy’s labelled diagrams of the Possibilism and Eternalism models of time (and control, experienced/seen, in loosecog state, the Eternalism state of consciousness).

Critical corrections:
o Substantially embarrassing: Moses’ healing snake on pole (debranched tree), not time-pole — after I published the main article 1986, this “time pole” phrase interpretive problem continued to bother me, leading to 2013 huge major decoding of {branching} mytheme.
o Moderately embarrassing: “animal” -> stag with branching antlers
o Minor embarrassing: 5 mushrooms, not 4, in final picture


2. Really nice to add — but not critical/mandatory: potentially becomes a “new article”:

Revise all phrasing, title, summary, detail.

Remove non-essential topics (clear room for additions, make it a pure Science theory).

{male/female}:
male/female mythemes, uncontrollable hidden control thought source, helpless receiver of control-thoughts

{branching/nonbranching; tree vs. snake/rock}:
o rebis holding up Y branch – decoding Western Esotericism
o ossuary: man horse path see snake on debranched tree
o snake carved in rock = worldline in block universe
o Minkowski = Parmenides’ block univ Eternalism
o monster dragon serpent = uncontrollable personal control-worldline rail = peak threat to personal control
o king steering in tree -> wine -> snake frozen in rock
o Jesus “hung on a tree” means Cross = tree: {king in tree is sacrificed}
o Jonah’s “whale” is actually sea-serpent (block-universe worldline); Jonah-headed snake
o pics: Eve/snake/tree in Campbell’s Power of Myth, + Jason/dragon/laurel/ram-fleece/Athena (Jason-headed snake), Eve-headed snake

make sure covered: sacrifice of Isaac: ram’s power caught helplessly in branching bush. Sustainability of person beyond the peak sacrifice, no harm = live on to worship as a devout people; “How to see God and live, unharmed, to worship God”.

{gate}

{purify/purgatory}

{bedevilled} – semi-covered, as “possessed”/”Jesus casts out the demon, man’s son returns to sanity”

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It is insane and irrational, conceptually inconsistent, to not understand religious mythology.

Atheists convert to religion in the last days, when they finally recognize religious mythology as description of no-free-will, cybernetic noncontrol given the loose cognitive ability to see and experience block-universe Eternalism, as explained by the Egodeath theory.

— Michael Hoffman
September 11, 2018

change

Posted 4 times, still waiting for Web UI to show post

Change

Argument from etymology and mythic metaphor:
The authentic, psychedelic Eucharist is the opposite of ‘degenerate’ (= eliminating fertility).

The traditional ancient Greek and Christian use of the psychoactive sacred meals is fertile, giving new life, adding to existing ideas without destroying them (only qualifying them).

Giving birth, creating mythic babies or children, reproduction, fertility.

Semele dies by Zeus’ power being revealed, and Dionysus is born.

The sacred meal causes new life, rebirth, the birth of the divine child, birth of divinity.

Psychedelics are divinely fertile, producing lasting life, non-dying, a-thanatos, rebirth in divine form, coupling of God and man (Mary, Semele) giving birth to Christ, the divine new child.

The Holy Spirit in the sacred meal gives a new mental model of time and control, preserving the old mental model for daily mundane use, qualifying and transcending the old model — preserve and transcend the lower structure, per Ken Wilber.

The mythic entheogenic family: the mystic marriage, bridal chamber, procreation, from which new, divine life is born.

Isaac through whom a population of righteous devout offspring sustains forever. The quasi-sacrifice of Isaac is fecund, leading to a people who live on to be righteous, multiplying.

The sacred meal bringing to completion of transcendent mental development is prolific, fertile, lasting, durable, strengthening, timelessly classic, perennial, never-ending.

— Michael Hoffman
September 13, 2018

Going for a record, like 8 times posting before post appears in web UI…

Waiting for significant revision (v2) of post “I found a 2011 hardcopy revision markup of the 2007 main article” to appear in Web UI.  

I found a 2011 hardcopy revision markup of the 2007 main article, around the date of my Nov. 2011 preliminary version of my Nov. 2013 branching breakthrough: in that 2011 markup draft, I was intent on differentiating the Core theory vs. mythic metaphor decoding.

After the 2013 “branching vs. nonbranching” breakthrough, that effort seems like misguided priorities, focusing on mere presentation while a major conceptual structure was missing: the specific parallel contrast between the two models of time and control, in terms of possibility branching vs. monopossibility.

I hadn’t decoded the mythemes {tree} or {rock} yet.


In 1988, I framed the Egodeath theory in terms of a new theory or explanatory paradigm of what *ego transcendence* is about (against the “nonduality” explanation).

Handwritten Minnesota draft, draft 1: August 11, 1988.

I wished to publish my loosecog/block-universe/cybernetics theory in December 1988 in the Journal of Transpersonal Psychology.

Until ~2001, my “Theory of Ego Transcendence” lacked myth-decoding. My 2007 main article has *most* myth-decoding, but lacked systemic contrast between Possibilism vs. Eternalism; branching vs. nonbranching models of time and control; tree vs. snake. The Core theory lacked that structure, that elegant parity of contrast, and the 1998-2007 myth-decoding addendum of the theory lacked {tree vs. snake}.

Now (in 2013-2018), I’m more interested in contrasting the two innate, state-dependent mental models of time and control, rather than (in 1988) contrasting the (Ken Wilber/Martin Ball) nonduality vs. (Hoffman) loosecog/Eternalism/noncontrol theories of what ego trancendence is about.

One of my 1988 theory titles was “The Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence” (CTET), but that overemphasizes the Cybernetics aspect, lacking the Loosecog and Eternalism aspects which lead up to the great, peak “cybernetic noncontrol” experience.

Since January 1988, the Egodeath theory was a theory (lacking myth-decoding at that time) that the nature of ego transcendence is Loosecog/Block-universe/Cybernetics.

A more balanced title would be like:

The Loosecog/Eternalism/Cybernetics Theory of Ego Transcendence

or equivalent words for ‘loosecog’, ‘eternalism’, and ‘cybernetics’; eg:

The Psycholytic/Fatedness/Noncontrol Theory of Ego Transcendence

That focus of the theory held from 1988 to 1997. Then I added myth (and art, and Rock lyrics) decoded as description of those 3 things: loosecog revealing fatedness & noncontrol.


The mere monochrome reproduction of half the painting, in _The Power of Myth_, focused my thinking to, for the first time, notice *as a contrast*, the Eden tree *versus* the Eden snake: tree and snake are the two contrasting architectural *shapes* of the models of time and control, possibility-branching control-tree experienced in the ordinary state (tight cognitive binding), frozen worldline-snake in block universe experienced in the altered state (loose cognitive binding).

Ruck et al failed to interpret snake, or vine, in terms of its *shape*; same with tree (eluded me longer than snake): snake and vine are not important because of venom or Ruck’s invented explanation “the Greeks had psychoactive ivy”, nor shedding skin (never depicted in art despite the snake/serpent/dragon being the #1 most common mytheme symbol in religious mythology).

The SHAPE of {snake/ivy}; the SHAPE of {tree}, the CONTRAST between the SHAPE of tree VERSUS snake, is the most-profound point. My mytheme research and postings around 2010-2013 built up to that greatest insight, about shape-contrast, on November 29, 2013. I think of this as figuring out “branching theory”.

When I had the “branching theory” breakthrough insight, I had been working toward a contrast-based quadrant-oriented diagram to represent the Egodeath theory, working toward increasing contrast between the before-and-after models — that’s how I prepared and invested in the R&D that led to this discovery of the most efficient (and thus most archaic) representation of the two fundamental mental models, corresponding with the two states of cognitive binding intensity.

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Addendum September 16+, 2018 (content for bottom of main article)

*contrasting* the branching vs. nonbranching models of time-and-control.

Images for 11/29/2013 “branching theory” breakthrough:

o Photo of Campbell’s _Power of Myth_ book, Eve/snake/tree/branches/stag, including my 11/29/2013 notes.

o Photo of cover of mythology book, showing Jason image on a kylix/cup/wine-saucer.

o Diagrams: Stanford Encyclopedia article “Being and Becoming in Modern Physics” https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/spacetime-bebecome/#PresPossEter The Possibilism vs. Eternalism models of time (and, more intensely when experienced, of control).

from branching, open, non-extant future, to monopossibility, pre-existing future.

the branching illusion, the two basic *contrasted* fundamental experiential models of time and control.

It’s about the pointed, systematic *contrast*! tree *versus* snake. tree-like vs. snake-in-rock-like models of time-and-control.

Recognize the tree and snake in terms of contrasting master models of time and control agency.

Combined branching vs. nonbranching in art figures:
o Eden tree/snake
o Moses’ healing bronze serpent on pole
o staff of Aesclepius the healer
o Jason-from-dragon, in front of non-branching laurel tree with sacrificed golden ram fleece, with Athena present (that divine figure has snakes, doesn’t have tree).


decoding of Rock — The {rock} mytheme wasn’t covered in my main article! When did I post about decoding {rock} = block universe?

William James calls the Parmenides/Minkowski model of time the “iron block universe”, but ancients described it as a “rock block universe”.

{tree} wasn’t covered/decoded yet either. ‘branch’ doesn’t appear in the article.


*Art and* religious mythology describe mental model transformation from the fist innate model, Possibilism, to the second innate model, Eternalism, the latter awaits the entheogen (looosecog) trigger to manifest/develop. (my main article doesn’t just decode myth; it shows art)

Enlightenment about metaphor, loosecog, fatedness, and noncontrol, is more mentally developed than lacking this gnosis, more durable, exposed to greater breadth of experiential states.

tree vs. snake = Possibilism vs. Eternalism


correction: “time pole” -> rigid snake on debranched tree-pole (I knew this was off-base, an unsolved problem of decoding – indeed this was a major decoding, following from the 2013 “branching theory” breakthrough)
correction: “turned Actaeon into an animal” -> “into a stag with branching antlers”
correction: 5 mushrooms not 4, in Dionysus victory procession.


Art: human head on snake. Healing rigid brass snake on pole, staff of Aesclepius, Christ hung on a tree, rock = block universe, snake = worldline.

Art: snake carved of rock as the medium = control-worldline snake-rail embedded in frozen block universe.

Image: mystics in purifying fire tended by the purifying angels

Idea of needing a picture gallery of Eternalism/noncontrol (not a gallery merely of entheogen plants per Brown & Brown, & Ruck).

The Possibilism vs. Eternalism models of time and control, as contrasted models. More specific than my abstract terms ‘egoic’ vs. ‘transcendent’.


Two legs/feet/hips = control foundation assumptions; limping, Hephaestos, one-foot; the mushroom “dancing” image (one foot lifted) controverted by Tom Hatsis against Jan Irvin. One foot raised.


Female = helpless control-thought receiver; male = uncontrollable source of control-thoughts.

Image: Rebis herm/aphrodite andro/gyne, holding Y.


Dragon hides in well/spring in cave, demands sacrifice of king’s maiden daughter, lures with sweet smell. Guards treasure.

Dragon guards treasure, must appease dragon by sacrificing Possibilism-thinking as assumed basis/foundation for personal control power, instead, for mental coherence and stability, must consciously trust (“pray to”) whatever is the uncontrollable creator/controller of your personal snake-rail worldline.

Ironic branching snakes, ironic nonbranching laurel trees.

Apollo arrows shoots dragon, wins laurel (non-branching tree) crown of victory.


Painting: sphinx questioning a hero, king’s crown fallen into chasm.

Image (W. Esotericism): king in tree, like King Pentheus, and Jesus hung from “tree”.

gate guarded garden, fleeing from or able to endure/stay, death angel as guard, dragon as guard eg of apples in garden of hesperides, implies snake in garden of Eden as *guarding* the fruit of the tree.


Possibilism vs. Eternalism model of time and control, moving from a specific, branching model, to an innate specific nonbranching model.

mental model transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism (eventually permanent when purified, in temporary experiential altered state)

decoding of branching/nonbranching contrast


Religious myth as description of: plants (Carl Ruck recognizes), and distinctly, the loose cognitive mode that visionary plants experientially reveal.

Ruck doesn’t recognize the descriptions of the loose cognitive state itself, resulting from the plants he perceives, and he doesn’t recognize the mythic descriptions of what that loose cognitive, plant-induced state reveals.

What’s revealed by the state that results from the plants is twofold: the block universe containing frozen worldlines, and cybernetic noncontrol.

The cognitive effect of visionary plants, which reveals that pair of revelations (Eternalism + Cybernetic noncontrol)


Covered in main article? Abraham looked up and behind him, saw the ram caught helplessly in the branching bush to sacrifice, instead of proving his ability to override his control, which would destroy his own future.

The angel-idea stayed Abraham’s hand from cybernetically violating and disproving his “Isaac” child-thinking, granted Abraham the idea of sacrificing the bush-caught ram as a better way of communicating/establishing comprehension of non-control, that permits prosperity, future life with corrected understanding of control that is true, coherent, and durable across both experiential states (tight & loose cognitive binding).


One of my “myth scene as diagram” posts/analyses of 2010-2013, was the fresco of Pompeii, Villa of the Mysteries. Includes decodings:
scourging/frenzy/god-maddened = altered-state correction and disproof of Possibilism-thinking. God with whip appears in image of The Madness of Heracles (show).

Turning to look back behind you to the right = experiencing the feeling of remembering the Eternalism model, of remembering fatedness to undergo ego death, cybernetic panic “frenzy” (god-possessed), and glorious doom and rescue/reset.

image: ossuary theme: riding without steering, along a path to see a snake on debranched tree trunk.


Maybe cite my announcement post of ~12/5/2013, and my ~11/23/2011 preliminary version of the “branching-theory” insight.

— Michael Hoffman
September 16, 2018

After reposting about 5 times, the revised post appeared: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/10679

Discovery date is a set of dates

Instead of a single date, I should specify 3 dates for each breakthrough: initial, peak, and follow-up.

For example, for the tree vs. snake breakthrough:
1. Initial idea, proposal, or groundwork: posted November 23, 2011.
2. Peak breakthrough — maximum number of connections added or revised per hour (per Paul Thagard’s model): November 29, 2013 (posted announcement December 1, 2013).
3. Follow-up, fleshing out the ramifications and corroborations adequately to express the whole scope: sometime by mid-2014.

When did I decode the most important, #1 mytheme, {snake} as worldline per Minkowski? I have looked up my posting dates before, but re-assess, in terms of:
1. When I first proposed that {snake} means worldline. (2003??)
2. When I first firmly asserted that {snake} means worldline.
3. When I adequately expressed and corroborated the entire principle that {snake} means worldline. This date is problematic, because I made substantial additional connections — to snake vs. tree — November 23, 2011, and then even more adequately, {snake vs. tree = Possibilism vs. Eternalism}, November 29, 2013, which itself, even then, was not a fully adequate elaboration with corroborations of that complex, complete idea.

A breakthrough is a matter of increasing connections over time. Artificially, we can pick 3 dates:
1. initial proposal
2. firm assertion
3. final proof

Snake means worldline, frozen in the rock block-universe, as opposed to a king steering in a possibilities branching tree. Even when I fully asserted and elaborated in the 2006 main article that snake means worldline, that falls short of the adequate full completely developed idea; Hellenistic initiates would see I still was lacking in the whole concept, of tree vs. snake, or {king steering in tree, drinks wine, then sees snake embedded in rock}.

R&D progress in theory-development is complex: increasing knowledge keeps increasing at an uneven pace of revising and adding connections.

Many elements of insight built up to the mid-2014 full development of the top principle {snake vs. tree = Possibilism vs. Eternalism}.


Decoding a mytheme is a matter of degree, of strength of connections increasing at an uneven rate over time. That makes it trickier to specify “the” date on which I decoded a mytheme, such as snake, king, wine, tree, or rock.

An initial correct idea still takes time to fully develop.

There’s the first few coins of a jackpot, and then after more time, the jackpot in its fullness.

It takes time from the initial identifying of a decoding, until full decoding of the mytheme.

When did I decode the mytheme {rock}?
On November 26, 2012, I casually mentioned rock = spacetime (frozen block universe containing embedded worldlines, implying a kind of cybernetic non-control):
Subject: Re: The Hammer of Interpretation
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/6079
Later, I posted developing that decoding, adding more connections.


When did I decode the mytheme-contrast {tree vs. snake}?
On November 23, 2011, I announced decoding tree vs. snake:
Subject: tree, snake, mshr; tree-wrapped/-climbing serpent
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/5630

When did I decode the mytheme-contrast {tree vs. snake} in terms of the two experiential models of time and control, “Possibilism vs. Eternalism”?
I connected the {tree vs. snake} contrast with the emphatic/systemic contrast between the Possibilism vs. Eternalism models of time, on November 29, 2013, using the Stanford Encyclopedia article “Being and Becoming in Modern Physics” https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/spacetime-bebecome/#PresPossEter

Subject: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/6340
December 1, 2013, reporting the discovery of November 29, 2013
This discovery was corroborated and expanded with more connections during the following months.


Similarly with decoding {snake}; postings (around 2003?) increasingly assert that {snake} = frozen pre-existing worldline.
It is hard and misrepresentative to pick a single date, except that that date is specifically the peak date in a set of breakthrough-series dates.

It’s probably wrong, misleading, to give a single date for a breakthrough. More like identifying the “peak breakthrough” in a set of breakthroughs.

I experienced “the week of” November 29, 2013 as peaking at November 29, a high peak surrounded by days of great height.

This is my “mountain range” model of breakthrough, depicting the rate of adding new connections, like in Paul Thagard’s clarification of Thomas Kuhn’s theory of scientific discovery.

It’s not flat, with an impulse peak jumping up suddenly; it’s a mountain range with peak in middle, a series of peaks.

A discovery’s “date” is more like an index entry with several page numbers, and a middle page number is bold, meaning “especially here”.

— Michael Hoffman
September 18, 2018

Contents:

links to images to add to main article, in an addendum

date at which I first decoded snake = worldline in block universe (2002 fair, 2004 good)

{leg/foot/hip} = presumed foundation of personal control power

mytheme decoded: {snake-bodied child hidden then revealed}

{human-snake} examples

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links to images to add to main article, in an addendum

My posting with links to Yahoo Egodeath group photos library, including the tiny portion of the Eve/snake/stag paining in Campbell; Douris’ Jason kylix, etc.:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/7399
Subject: Photos of tree vs snake diagrams and paintings

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date at which I first decoded snake = worldline in block universe

When did I decode, when did I first definitively postulate or assert that snake = worldline? February 20, 2004? I posted rudimentary roots, early versions of the decoding, as early as April 26, 2002.

It’s a matter of degree, a judgment call, whether I decoded {snake = worldline} on April 26, 2002, or February 20, 2004.

I feel that as a decoding that’s firmly and clearly proposed, the date of proper discovery is February 20, 2004, with roots back to April 26, 2002, and even with roots definitively back into the mid-1990s where I was literally drawing the worldline as a snake and like a worm.

By a big stretch, you could say the philosophers of time “know all this”, in that they talk of “spacetime worms” and “worm theory”, where ‘worm’ means worldline in the block universe.

Philosophers of time uncomprehendingly utter disconnected fragments of wisdom when they talk of “the tree model of time, against the block universe containing worldline worms”.

They don’t know they are uttering profound religious mythology analogies to the altered=state experiential revelation of block-universe noncontrol of which the Metal poets sing.

Sam Harris thinks religion is something other than comprehending and experiencing worldline snakes embedded in the rock of the Minkowski block universe, even though Harris writes books against religion, advocating no-free-will, and advocating psychedelics-informed spirituality.


April 26, 2002, I posted a version of the mytheme decoding {snake = worldline}:
Subject: Labyrinth, Balaam’s donkey, Golden Ass, Damascus
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/753
April 26, 2002
“A person’s entire worldline of mental constructs is frozen in spacetime like a thread in a marble slab or like a snake frozen in ice — understanding this vividly amounts to the experience of control-death or cyberdeath. That’s the thought that kills the childself.”


April 27, 2002:
Subject: Planned topics/themes/puzzles
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/760
I wrote:
“Stiff wavy snake – frozen worldline”


On February 20, 2004, I suggested {snake} = worldline:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/3160
Subject: Snake referring to visual distortion, turning staff to snake
February 20, 2004
“A snake is shaped like a no-choice labyrinth path, like a person’s worldline frozen into the block universe.

To mentally perceive your frozenness of worldline is like seeing a snake, and may be metaphorized as prophetic viewing of the future or coming inevitable fall of king ego’s kingdom/ kingship.”

One the one hand, what I wrote is perfect; on the other, it’s the *last* of several interpretations I listed in that post.


On March 3, 2004, I wrote a version of the {snake = worldline} assertion:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/3206
Subject: Metaphor: Averted gaze. To look is to die.
March 3, 2004
“The snake wrapped around the lion-headed figure is the linear worldline of one’s life: the Fates’ thread.”


The next post in my February 20, 2004 thread is October 29, 2004, and I am still muddling inferior interpretations (toxin) into that key, primary referent (worldline).
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/3611
Subject: Snake referring to visual distortion, turning staff to snake
October 29, 2004
“Snake and no-choice labyrinth and meander all have similar spatial geometry.

The snake is wise because it has elixir of death, has rebirth, moves like visual waving distortion, and knows about the 1-D worldline frozen into the heimarmene-ruled block universe.

When you mentally perceive your experienced life as a 1-D worldline timelessly frozen into the block universe, your sense of open steersmanship dies, like seeing the attractive and deadly gorgon-face of the snake-haired Medusa and being thereby turned to stone.

Thus the snake is shown wrapped around the heimarmene-ruled celestial globe, or penetrating through it.

The snake is wise about determinism, but I see the snake as representing attaining the jump from ignorance to fatal awareness of determinism, *not* the second major leap, which is the truly divine leap from awareness of determinism to transcendence of cosmic determinism.”

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More ideal and mature in terms of theory development to completion/closure, would be the formulation, possible later after I decoded {rock}:
{snake} = worldline, embedded in {rock} = block universe.

At later dates, I have more integration/connections among the decoded mythemes, which were previously decoded in isolation.

The early posts are “correct, so far as they go”, but back then, I didn’t quite say so clearly and emphatically as now, that in world religious mythology, {snake} (the #1 most common mytheme) is an analogy that describes the personal control-agent’s worldline rail frozen in the {rock} block universe, experientially perceived and unveiled in the loose cognitive state.

{dragon} as monster and treasure-guard, is the fearsome, terrifying aspect of control-loss implied by perceiving the pre-existing control-worldline embedded in the frozen block universe, the peak mystic-state threat, “the shadow”.

The {dragon-guarded treasure} is enlightenment and mental integrity and cleansing of impure, incoherent thinking that causes control-seizure, control-instability.

treasure = ability to endure and enter and stay in the loose cognitive state, with mental control stability.

In 2002, I was drawing connections, but I wasn’t churning out “decodings of mythemes” as such.

In general, I didn’t yet have such a clear idea of decoding mythemes as analogies describing the cognitive phenomenology of the loose cognitive state.

The roots of decoding a given mytheme, go way back.

I literally drew worldlines as snakes, back around 1995 — correct, so far as it goes; but that doesn’t measure up to my later definitive decoding, {snake} = worldline.


I didn’t *nail* the idea, the decoding, in 1995, or 2002, barely even in 2004, compared to November 29, 2013, or by mid-2014 complete development, with the full manner of expression, of {king steering in tree, wine, then snake embedded in rock}.

On what date did I first fully grasp the decoding, in a definitive, authoritative way? A decoding *as* a decoding.

I posted the {snake = worldline} proto-idea several times, over the years, before it became a stark principle, a point-blank decoding as such, around 2004. Even then, it was 9 more years, 2013, before bringing together snake, tree, and rock.

I decoded {rock} around November 26, 2012 – a similar story of gradual development and clearer realization, as more connections were added throughout the broad explanatory framework.

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date of decoding of {leg/foot/hip/sandal} = presumed foundation of personal control power

That March 3, 2004 paragraph continues with work on decoding a mytheme much more recent like 2016:

“One leg on ground, one leg up isn’t so much a mushroom allusion; it is first of all the idea that the transcendent psyche stands partly on ego, partly on divine magic air. Thus Jesus’ foot elevated, Mithras’ one foot on the ground, dancing Shiva with one foot on the air, and
so on. One leg up is readable as magical transcendence of Fate/ heimarmene/ cosmic determinism.”

That’s the roots of starting to decode; it’s not a proper decoding yet.

Well-formed decoding: 1st leg = Possibilism-thinking, 2nd leg = Eternalism-thinking.

My more recent, ~2017 posts on foot = leg = presumed foundation of control, are more well-formed, more on-target than that preliminary proposal of 2004.

“The” discovery/decoding date is more like 3 dates:
1. date of first proposal, but maybe not expressed optimally yet; still a little malformed/roughly formed. The historical roots of my eventual full decoding of the mytheme.
2. date of first clear, proper, correct, well-formed assertion, correct emphasis.
3. date of final elaboration with corroboration established, with fluent connections to related mythemes.

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mytheme decoded: {snake-bodied child hidden then revealed}

{human-snake} examples

My February 20, 2004 post also has a passage I kept trying to find, about two sisters hurling themselves from the Acropolis:

http://www.stoa.org/diotima/essays/garrison_essay.shtml

That webpage, edited for clarity:

“The females who commit suicide in a state of madness are Agraulos and Herse, daughters of Cecrops, the half-serpent man.

When Athena gave to these girls for rearing, the offspring of Hephaestus’ aborted attempt to impregnate Athena, Athena instructed Agraulos and Herse to keep the child Erichthonius hidden in a chest. They failed to heed her warning, and upon seeing the snaky child within, went mad and hurled themselves from the Acropolis. Although the girls’ own father Cecrops was half-snake, the sight of such an infant drove them insane.”


More examples of human torso on snake body:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Cecrops&tbm=isch

https://www.google.com/search?q=Erichthonius&tbm=isch

https://www.google.com/search?q=Echidna+myth&tbm=isch

https://www.google.com/search?q=Typhon&tbm=isch

https://www.google.com/search?q=Eve+serpent&tbm=isch
snake has Eve’s head or torso, or a man’s head or torso

ketos sea-serpent is spewing out Jonah; two heads visible: serpent’s and Jonah’s
https://www.google.com/search?q=Jonah+sea+serpent&tbm=isch

Douris’ Jason/Athena kylix: guard dragon snake is spewing out dead Jason; two heads visible: serpent’s and Jason’s
https://www.google.com/search?q=Douris+Jason+Athena&tbm=isch


Human-Snake Hybrids
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hybrid_creatures_in_folklore#Human-Snake_Hybrids
“A nure-onna as depicted in Sawaki Suushi’s Hyakkai-Zukan
Echidna – A half-woman and half-snake monster that lives inside a cave.
Fu Xi – A god said to have been made by Nu Wa.

Lamia – Like a mermaid but with the lower body like that of a snake and is usually female. wik: “Lamia (/ˈleɪmiə/; Greek: Λάμια), in ancient Greek mythology, was a woman who became a child-eating monster after her children were destroyed by Hera, who learned of her husband Zeus’s trysts with her. Hera also afflicted Lamia with sleeplessness so she would anguish constantly, but Zeus gave her the ability to remove her own eyes.”

{remove eyes} = return to tight cognition, the ordinary state of consciousness where our snake-shaped control-rail worldline is veiled, not experientially perceived. -mh

“Zeus provided relief by endowing her with removable eyes. He also gifted her with a shape-shifting ability in the process.”

{shape-shifting} = mental worldmodel transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism; from {king steering in tree}, to (after {visionary mixed wine/ magic potion}), {snake embedded in rock}. -mh.

Nü Wa – A woman with the lower body of a serpent in Chinese folklore.
Ketu – An Asura who has the lower parts of a snake and said to have four arms.
Nāga – A term referring to human/snake mixes of all kinds.
Nure-onna – A creature with the head of a woman and body of a snake.”


What is {that which is hidden and then revealed}?

Our cybernetic nature as frozen worldlines is hidden, veiled, until made visible by psychedelic mixed wine.

Our snake-rail nature as control agents bound to stay in our pre-existing rail across time, is normally veiled, hidden, in the tight cognitive binding mode, the ordinary state of consciousness.

Keep the *child* *hidden*.

While we think as a child, on the hidden underlying not-yet-perceived level, we are a snake-shaped worldline, unbeknown yet to us.

When we are initiated, in the psychotomimetic state, we perceive for the first time, that the whole time, we (as control agent) have been a snake-shaped rail embedded in the frozen block universe.

September 18, 2018
— Michael Hoffman

When did I fully decode {rock = block universe}?

{tree vs. snake} = {king-in-tree vs. snake-in-rock} = Possibilism vs. Eternalism


1a. I realized and posted the bare idea in 2004.
1b. I treat the idea more adequately in the 2006/2007 main article, but it still doesn’t stand out as a major decoding.
2. On January 10, 2013, clearly I fully get it, that {rock = block universe}, and that this is a major mytheme.
3. I corroborated how widespread the {rock} mytheme is and thus how major the breakthrough is, on January 13, 2013.

When did I first write articulate, fluent, clear assertion than the mytheme {rock} is decoded as block universe, and that {rock} is a major mytheme though unrecognized by others as a major thematic puzzle to solve, ubiquitous in religious mythology?

My main work decoding {rock} and {tree}, to appreciate how major these mythemes are, was after the 2006/2007 main article, in the fecund period 2010-2014.

But roots of my work decoding {rock} go back to at least 2004, and roots of {tree} decoding, I have yet to adequately trace.

I imagine that my trajectory or “mountain range” of developing the {snake} decoding is shifted earlier than {rock}, which is shifted earlier than {tree}.


Clearly in the main article of 2006/2007, I have full appreciation for how major of a decoding it is, that {snake = worldline}. But less appreciation for {rock = block universe}, and little if any appreciation for {tree/branching = Possibilism}.

Manly Hall’s book “Secret Teachings of the Ages” has a bare mention of psychoactive plants, and maybe a mention of no-free-will, but he’s miles away from grasping the Egodeath theory of ego transcendence and religious mythology as {loose-cognitive block-universe non-control}.

Sam Harris writes books about religion, about no-free-will, and about psychedelics-influenced spirituality, but he didn’t grasp the Egodeath theory, that religious mythology describes {loose-cognitive block-universe non-control}.


The historical research remains to be done, to trace my development timeline of the mytheme-decoding {tree = Possibilism}.

There is a trajectory of development of a decoding, over the years, with first mentions, then firm assertion, then full, articulate, fluent elaboration and connection.

Per Kuhn, “Revolutionary Science” identifies an explanatory skeletal paradigm framework as a research framework to be filled in by “Normal Science” afterwards. But the revolutionary idea might not by fully recognized as revolutionary when the idea first appears.

I got pretty far in decoding the {rock} mytheme before realizing and appreciating how revolutionary or major that decoding was, what a major mytheme I had decoded.

They say Minkowski and Lorentz discovered the Theory of Invariance / Theory of Relativity, without realizing, appreciating, and comprehending it, or without fanfare of selling it as a revolutionary breakthrough.

Same with {snake}: at first, I merely noted the shape similarity of snake and worldline, without realizing I had decoded the #1 most common, puzzling, mysterious religious mythology mytheme.

There is a counter-intuitive sequence of first decoding a mytheme, and then some time later, *appreciating* the decoding of the mytheme *as* a decoding of a major mytheme that has a surprisingly great number of connections throughout the domain.


Correction:
“I hadn’t decoded the mythemes {tree} or {rock} yet, in the 2007 main article.”

The main article decodes “stone”, though not the synonym “rock”.

I didn’t appreciate yet that {rock} is a major, top mytheme throughout myth, the decoding of which constitutes a major decoding, a breakthrough in myth interpretation.

Only on January 13, 2013, did I finally post a full, adequate treatment of the many, many instances of all forms of rock in myth — that post, stands as the definitive, full, mature assertion with corroboration, of the decoding {rock = block universe} — that’s when it struck me the extent to which rock is a master, unappreciated, key mytheme woven extensively throughout myth.

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Timeline of posts decoding {rock = block universe}:

On October 29, 2004, I made bare mention of the idea; the roots of my decoding {rock = block universe} go back much earlier than the 2006/2007 main article, such as bare mention of the idea.

I separately mentioned snake and “stone”, the elements of the decoding are present together but not tightly connected into {snake = worldline, rock = block universe}:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/3611
Subject: Snake referring to visual distortion, turning staff to snake
October 29, 2004
“Snake and no-choice labyrinth and meander all have similar spatial geometry.

The snake is wise because it has elixir of death, has rebirth, moves like visual waving distortion, and knows about the 1-D worldline frozen into the heimarmene-ruled block universe.

When you mentally perceive your experienced life as a 1-D worldline timelessly frozen into the block universe, your sense of open steersmanship dies, like seeing the attractive and deadly gorgon-face of the snake-haired Medusa and being thereby turned to stone.”


My 2006-2007 main article connects stone, altar, and block universe:
http://egodeath.com/EntheogenTheoryOfReligion.htm
“The Block Universe and Frozen Worldlines
… Fixed Worldlines of Subjective Experiencing

Sacrifice is predestined and frozen into spacetime, comparable to the labyrinth path leading the sacrificial youths to the Minotaur in the central lair every year, and comparable to a city’s festival procession past sacred landmarks to a sacrifice at an altar. When Perseus shows Medusa’s head covered with Heimarmene-snakes to king Polydectes and his followers at the feast with ‘mixed wine’, the king and the other governors are turned into stone, helplessly frozen.”


On November 26, 2012, I mentioned rock = spacetime (frozen block universe containing embedded worldlines, implying a kind of cybernetic non-control):
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/6079
Subject: The Hammer of Interpretation
November 26, 2012
“altar = marble slab = rock = spacetime = time = chains = tied up = fastened = bound = … captive”


On January 10, 2013, I strongly, articulately, and fluently asserted the decoding {rock = block universe}.

This posting shows that long before November 29, 2013, I posted all the key elements together: king, tree, snake, rock, Possibilism, Eternalism, though I didn’t quite see clearly yet the elegant math formula {tree vs. snake = king-in-tree vs. snake-in-rock = Possibilism vs. Eternalism}:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/6274
Subject: Rock worship & the Rock altar of sacrifice
January 10, 2013
“Worshipping toward the black cube of Mecca is acknowledging block universe fatedness and its personal noncontrol implication. The black rock is spacetime fatedness to which we are subject, against our natural animalistic childish thinking in terms of autonomous control power.

To sacrifice, you must find and gather Rock, to build an altar of block universe divine Rock, and sacrifice the mentally purified, rightly willing victim who repudiates his egoic animal youthful cross-time control claims.

I claimed to roll, but now in sacrifice on the Rock altar I formally acknowledge that I am a rock.

At this altar of Rock, I formally acknowledge that I, including all my control thought and stream of intentions, am a product of the block universe. My entire worldline stream of thoughts and experiences, mental constructs, is like a worm-shaped, snake-shaped vein that is frozen in a spacetime marble block controlled by the creator of fate. I am not asserting about holistic determinism, so much as, my ultimate point is, asserting a particular noncontrol.

I assert Eternalism and brass rigid snaked shaped worldline *because* that forces my real, main point, which is a kind of repudiation of my assumption that I have a certain kind of control power: that type of control power which fits with the Possibilism model of time. I repudiate the “tree”; cybernetic possibility branching not that that is important in itself, but rather because I repudiate *the type and conception of personal control* that *fits with* that model of time and possibility.

I sacrifice my kingship claim on the tree, my kingship claimed fastened to the tree, hung on the tree. I affirm the snake and its Eternalism Rock altar and that’s not important in itself, but because I affirm the model if personal control that fits with that model. Metaphor’s correct logic, relevant and mathematically perfect: Tree ~= altar of Rock = snake = god-given sacrificial lamb = worldline = ultimately:

Mental model of personal control power that fits with the Eternalism model of time as opposed to the Possibilism model of time. The important ultimate point for mental regeneration or mental model transformation isn’t what time-model you have, but what control-model you have. Focus on the time-model is not important in itself, but is important insofar as it implies, forces, or phenomenologically coheres with your control-model you hold.”

The post continues in like fashion.


On January 13, 2013, I posted the full corroboration, listing many instances of the rock mytheme throughout religious mythology.

I fully elaborated and corroborated the variants of rock in myth, proving that rock is a master mytheme though that is not appreciated; I recognized that {rock} as a main mytheme to decode is overlooked in myth dictionaries.
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/6279
Subject: Rock worship & the Rock altar of sacrifice
January 13, 2013

— Michael Hoffman
September 19, 2018

When did I decode the {tree/branching} mytheme? Consider 3 dates:
1. initial proposal: November 23, 2011
2. elaborated assertion: November 29, 2013, posted December 2, 2013
3. complete explanation & corroborating myths/art: mid 2014


The earliest, initial post of mine with “branching” and “tree” is the familiar November 23, 2011 posting.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/5630
Subject: tree, snake, mshr; tree-wrapped/-climbing serpent
November 23, 2011
The post doesn’t mention Possibilism or Eternalism.

That post is the precursor to the peak November 29, 2013 breakthrough and its December 2, 2013 announcement posting of {tree vs. snake contrast = the Possibilism vs. Eternalism models of time & control}.

I hadn’t *fully* decoded {tree/branching} in 2011, given that I lacked the *combination* idea, the 2013 compound mytheme {tree/snake = Possibilism/Eternalism}; lacked decoding Staff of Aesclepius and Moses’ healing brass serpent on a pole; lacked the compound mytheme {king-in-tree vs. snake-in-rock}.

The _Power of Myth_ painting was important because it highlights the theme of branching: Eve’s branching legs, branch in front of them, stag’s antlers behind them: 3 layers of branching at Eve, and she holds onto a branch: 4 branching themes at once.

The adjacent book, with Jason kylix on the cover, shows a laurel tree with no branching, providing me with a 5th clue that tree/branching vs. snake/nonbranching was a Super-Mytheme to decode, using all my research I had done on those themes throughout myth by late 2013, combined with aggressive, persistent research on “block universe”, like a 4th, insistent pass, “How can people not be talking about the block universe?!” which turned up the badly drawn diagrams at Snodfart’s Junior University: the “tree” model not shown as a tree, next to the snake-shaped worldline.


I mentioned mushroom-trees with branching stems on October 28, 2005, but not the generalized principle of branching vs. nonbranching; it wasn’t a post about “branching theory”, though it helped lead to the idea. I noticed the issue of branching and nonbranching in mushroom trees: veil ring shown as cut-off branches. I may be a tree, but I’m against branching: laurel shrub & mushroom trees.

— Michael Hoffman
September 19, 2018

Eric Wargo, mythemes describing the 2 models of time

Erik Davis’ Expanding Mind podcast, episode September 27, 2018 with guest Eric Wargo, discusses Block Universe “determinism” per the Egodeath theory (around the final third).
https://expandingmind.podbean.com/e/expanding-mind-%E2%80%93-time-loops-092718/
“In part one of our conversation, author, blogger, and dreamer Eric Wargo talks about uncertainty, determinism, Zen, the evidence for “feeling the future,” and his brilliant and head-spinning book Time Loops: Precognition, Retrocausation, and the Unconscious.”


The discussion in the podcast comes close to comparing the “open future, branching possibilities” model to a *tree*, or a king steering in a tree, and to comparing the “block-universe with worldlines” model to a *snake*, or a snake embedded in rock.

The discussion comes close to mentioning the archetypal most-terrifying experience, of perceiving future control-thoughts as frozen in a pre-existing, snake-shaped rail embedded in spacetime with no change, or more exactly, no meta-change.

Typhon, the father of all monsters, refers to experientially perceiving one’s *Block-Universe Worldline* in the mystic altered state, removing the sense of personal control power: encountering the dragon that guards enlightenment.

The dragon (a serpent as *the* monster) demands prayer, reconciliation, and sacrifice, which means repudiation of the premise of relying on personal control power steering in a tree into the open future, relying instead, consciously, on pre-given personal control-thoughts that were established by the hidden, uncontrollable creator of the spacetime block.

The mind retains the original model of time and control, now qualified, and adds a new model of time and control, progressively revealed in the altered state in a series of purifying sessions of “mixed wine”, and eventually retained (conceptually, not experientially) in the ordinary state.

This model of psychedelics and mixed wine emphasizes the psycholytic, cognitive loosening effect of psychedelics.

The series of sacred meals given by the god leads to an overwhelming feeling and experience of “remembering” an epic, mythic-scale climactic peak experience of control-seizure realization, forcing a dramatic mental reconfiguration, with sacrifice and rescue, transforming the mental model of personal control power and time.


There are two models of time (and implicitly, of control) in Philosophy, which are contrasted in mythology, and are experienced in the two states of consciousness:

o First, the Tree model, called “Possibilism” in the Philosophy of Time, experienced and perceived in the ordinary state of consciousness, which has tight cognitive association binding. More fully, this model is described by analogy as a king steering in a tree.

o Second, the Snake model, called “Eternalism” in the Philosophy of Time, experienced and perceived in the altered state of consciousness, which has loose cognitive association binding. More fully, this model is described by analogy as a snake frozen embedded in rock.

The contrast between the initial tree view vs. the later snake view (after initiation into the sacred meals given by the gods), is depicted in Hellenistic and Biblical mythology as a rigid snake on a debranched tree, and other combinations of king or tree, vs. snake or rock, such as:

Hellenistic religious mythology:
o The staff of Aesclepius the healer (snake on debranched tree trunk).
o A snake on a debranched tree trunk (sculpted in rock) on ossuaries (stone coffin, depository for the bones of the dead).
o A snake on a debranched tree trunk (sculpted in rock) propping up statues.

Biblical religious mythology:
o Moses’ healing brass snake on a pole (a tree with the branches cut off), to prevent death by snake bite (that is, restabilizing mental control after ego death that results from perceiving Block-Universe Worldlines).
o The comparison of king Jesus fastened to wood (“hung on the tree”) to Moses’ brass snake lifted up on a pole, given as a “sign”.


Mythology describes psychedelics experientially revealing the block universe and no-free-will.

More generally, listing all the terms in the four key concept-categories:

{religious mythology, analogy, metaphor}
describes
{the altered state, psycholytics, psychedelics, entheogens, psychotomimetics, loose cognitive binding, loose mental construct processing}
experientially revealing
{Eternalism, Fatedness, Heimarmene, the block universe, frozen time, determinism, no meta-change}
and
{non-control, Cybernetics, control cancellation, self-control seizure, rail of control-thoughts, worldline, no-free-will, no meta-control}.


‘Determinism’ is an ok, familiar term for the Minkowski/Parmenides *Block Universe* with embedded pre-existing *Worldlines* of personal control, but ‘determinism’ amounts to a particular narrow theory about *how* it is that the future is pre-set: through domino-chain causality acting from one moment to the next.

‘Eternalism’, a less familiar but more relevant term, doesn’t emphasize the supposed domino-chain causal mechanism acting through time, but instead emphasizes timeless pre-existence of the future, especially the most fearsome, destabilizing, and dis-empowering perception, the pre-existence of the future rail of personal control-thoughts, frozen, unavoidable, unchangeable, the snake dragon monster guarding the treasure of enlightenment and mental transformation.


The Possibilism (tree) and Eternalism (snake) models of time are depicted in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, though without recognition of the archaic mythology contrast {tree vs. snake}, or {king in tree vs. snake in rock}, which I recognized without the Philosophy terms ‘Possibilism’ vs. ‘Eternalism’ on November 23, 2011, and then with those terms on November 29, 2013 (announced December 1, 2013).

Diagrams:
The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
Article: “Being and Becoming in Modern Physics”
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/spacetime-bebecome/#PresPossEter

Subject: tree, snake, mshr; tree-wrapped/-climbing serpent
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/5630
November 23, 2011
Initial decoding of {tree vs. snake} in mythology, though without the terms ‘Possibilism vs. Eternalism’

Subject: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/6340
December 1, 2013, reporting the discovery of November 29, 2013
Announcement of fully decoding {tree vs. snake} in mythology, including the terms ‘Possibilism vs. Eternalism’. Confirmed by decoding various mythemes by mid-2014.


Expanding Mind podcast
Episode: Cybernetic Ego-death
January 28, 2016
“A talk with renegade religious philosopher Michael Hoffman about entheogens, determinism, and religious experience from an engineering point of view.”
https://expandingmind.podbean.com/2016/01/
https://expandingmind.podbean.com/e/expanding-mind-%E2%80%93-cybernetic-ego-death-%E2%80%93-012816/

— Michael Hoffman
October 1, 2018

Myth’s theory of control chaos & restabilization

Myth doesn’t prove control chaos & restabilization

Using mythology to identify and corroborate, but not prove, a specific, standard, traditional theory of how the mind works and develops in reaction to the loose cognitive state


I have definitely extracted the implicit theory of how the mind works according to religious mythology.


In the ordinary, tight cognitive state, Possibilism is experienced as the mental model of time and control.

In the altered, loose cognitive state, the Eternalism model is experienced, with block-universe noncontrol.

Mental self-control seizure, instability, initially results, as long as the Possibilism model is adhered to within the loosecog state.

Eventually, the non-viability of the Possibilism model while in the loosecog state, leads to shifting the foundation of reliance for power from personal origination to the uncontrollable block universe.

Cybernetic testing and observation, probing the vulnerability and dynamics of mental control in the mystic, loose cognitive state, is described in mythic analogy as {trial}, {fire} or {scourging}, which gradually drives and leads to this change of control-foundation reliance.


The specific dynamic, part of the traditional mythical theory of how the mind works: in the loosecog state, personal control power goes into chaos, control instability that escalates to panic and peak experience — peak panic, peak urgency, peak excitement, peak emotion, peak religious experiencing, peak seizure.

Cybernetic vulnerability to instability and fatal loss of control is resolved by sacrifice of depending on Possibilism, by repudiating depending on free will personal power according to the Possibilism model of time and control.

The mind becomes restabilized as soon as the mind shifts reliance per the Eternalism model of time and control, shifting dependency and reliance onto the uncontrollable block universe, putting trust in the hidden uncontrollable controller that has a most-intimate relationship with oneself as controller.

Prayer is a kind of communication, in god-mode consciousness, between the hidden, higher, beyond-control controller, where the person is forced — by control instability and the threat of control-chaos — to not rely on the system which is seizing (freewill Possibilism-premised personal control power).

Build the house (personal control power) on rock instead of sand — a stable cybernetic foundation, a new leg/foot/basis/foundation for personal control power, now derived from the hidden uncontrollable source or creator of the personal rail of control-thoughts distributed through time into the future.

That is the mythological theory of mind and control restabilization, sacrifice of Possibilism-reliance, and prayer for rescue or for a stabilizing declaration of a change of reliance, that was destined.

The hidden, uncontrollable controller of the rail of control-thoughts is the puppetmaster causing all of the following:

o The revealing/perceiving of block-universe noncontrol

o The testing of control

o The demonstration of chaos/instability potential

o The sacrifice of the Possibilism premise

o The adopting of the Eternalism premise

o The prayer to set in conscious 2-way relationship, the personal control agent and the hidden source of control-thoughts.

Prayer is initiated by the hidden uncontrollable source of control-thoughts, prayer is a communication from God to mystic, where the mystic is made to be aware of dependence on the hidden controller and acknowledge that dependence.

That acknowledgement communicates from mystic to God, from the personal control agent (in the trembling peak state) to the hidden uncontrollable source of control-thoughts.


Mythology’s theory of cybernetics — mythology as 2-state cognitive science with restabilization upon sacrifice and prayer — this model of cognition is not *proved* by mythology, but certainly explains what the cognitive theory expressed by myth is.

Religious mythology as block-universe noncontrol is a good, informed point of reference: “Control is unstable until the mind is made to jettison the Possibilism premise and be consciously dependent on the uncontrollable source of control thoughts in the block universe with preexisting future rail of control-thoughts.”

Jonah’s sea-storm, or Jesus’ disciples’ sea-storm, subsides when the prophet renounces personal control origination per Possibilism-thinking, made to sacrifice Possibilism and made to assert Eternalism instead, per encountering the threatening snake-monster worldline helplessly frozen in the block universe, renouncing the king steering in a tree, when the king is perceived as helplessly fastened to the branching possibility tree.

Is this really how the mind works, per ultimate Loose Cognitive Science? That is not scientifically proved, but this really is the theory of 2-state cybernetics according to religious mythology, the theory which is ultimately conveyed by myth.

Cognitive dynamics in the mystic state in the late-Modern era generally confirms these dynamics reported in religious mythology.

The mind, as long as it adheres to the Possibilism model of time and control, is bedeviled by cybernetic instability leading inevitably to tightening of the noose, leading to control-death and failure and panic, untenable loss-of-control in a forced demonstration — opted into by god-mode thinking in the mystic state.

The mind is forced to demonstrate *untenable* loss-of-control, as long as Possibilism is treated seriously as the foundation which personal control power trusts and relies on.

According to myth and contemporary experiencing; according to myth’s theory which I have extracted and identified, and as contemporary experience suggests as reported in Rock lyrics and other reports:


As long as thinking continues to rely on Possibilism, the higher mind continues to put control on trial, continues to put personal control power to the test, and continues to reveal that personal control is subject to disastrous, untenable loss of control.

When the mind is made to convert from Possibilism to Eternalism, the storm (increasingly heading for doom and cybernetic death and disaster) subsides, and control returns immediately to stability.

Rely more on Possibilism, experience more vulnerability to loss of control;
rely more on Eternalism, immediately experience control stability.

— Michael Hoffman
October 24, 2018

Summary statements of Egodeath theory


🌳🐍 the two experiential models of control and time

In the ordinary, tight cognitive state, Possibilism is experienced as the mental model of time and control.

In the altered, loose cognitive state, the Eternalism model is experienced, with block-universe noncontrol.


Mental self-control seizure, instability, initially results, as long as the Possibilism model is adhered to within the loosecog state.

Eventually, the non-viability of the Possibilism model while in the loosecog state, leads to shifting the foundation of reliance for power from personal origination to the uncontrollable block universe.

Cybernetic testing and observation, probing the vulnerability and dynamics of mental control in the mystic, loose cognitive state, is described in mythic analogy as {trial}, {fire} or {scourging}, which gradually drives and leads to this change of control-foundation reliance.


Everyone begins life demon-possessed, until eucharistic initiation which eventually casts out the bedeviling demon that makes personal control unstable.

Higher religion describes the experience of being a helpless receiver of control thoughts, puppet of the uncontrollable source of thoughts, subject to the pre-created block-universe worldline.

High classic tragedy and sacrifice is the revealing and experiencing of the block-universe worldline model of time and control, after the sacred meal.

Atheistic materialistic no-free-will is like mystic noncontrol and predestination, or pre-existence of thoughts. + experiencing that.

fear of loss of control of thoughts, in the Holy Spirit – highest terror and glory

God takes over control of the mind after ingesting the Eucharist; the personal control agent is forced into putting reliance on Creator rather than on the creature’s power of controlling thought.


r.o. wrote “Religion is an esoteric representation of humanity and civilization. Don’t look at it so basically.”


Greek myth isn’t morality tales, it is description of the sacred meal bringing an intense experience of frozen block-universe non-control rather than branching tree possibilities – moral agency shift.

Atheism taken far enough, consistently, leads to religious revelation about veiled no-free-will, and moral agency transformation.

Hyper-Calvinism: everything is the Creator’s fault.

alchemical experience of death and rebirth: transformed from the original branching-tree model of time and control, through ingesting sacred food, to the experience of block-universe worldline

Science solved the Mystery Religion mystery: The sacred food induces experiencing block-universe no-free-will (worldline = snake) rather than the usual branching-tree model of time and control.

What is sacrificed is reliance on freewill-premised control, upon experiencing the frozen block universe with snake-shaped worldline of personal control, after ingesting divine food.

High science = high religion: the sacred meal switches the experience and model of time and control, from possibility branching to pre-existing path of no-free-will, described by mythology.

What is occult and veiled is the block universe with unchangeable, pre-existing, snake-shaped worldline of personal control – revealed by the sacred meal, bringing loose cognitive binding.


Hermeneutic key unlocking all the mysteries: numinous flesh of Christ 🍄 revealing block universe worldline monster demanding sacrifice🐉, not a king steering with freewill power in a branching tree.

numinous flesh of Christ 🍄 revealing block universe worldline monster demanding sacrifice🐉


The mind is able to experience Minkowski’s iron cube universe, including pre-setness and noncontrol, creating religion.

The eternal value: transcending the premise of egoic control agency wielding the power of steering among possibility branches, through experiencing and perceiving the frozen block universe worldline.

Ancient Greek mystery religions are now completely figured out and explained, by late-modern science.


Must sacrifice the freewill premise. What is sacrificed to please the god is the freewill premise, the branching-tree model of time and control.

Must affirm instead, to restore stable personal control, no-free-will — the snake model of time and control.

During mental turmoil and testing control instability, god-mode thinking demands repudiation and disavowal of freewill thinking.

The free will premise is the original sin, which all people are born into.

The purifying fires burn away, and prove-away through demonstration, freewill thinking.

When put to the test, freewill model of time and control is a trap, a tightening noose.

The more that freewill-premised control power is tested, the more control goes unstable.


dead king hung in a tree causing sacrifice, prayer to the hidden uncontrollable controller of the personal control worldline, and new life born from the rock

reclining at table with rounds of mixed wine brought by the gods

The foundation of religions: block universe worldline revealed in the loose cognitive state, producing the second innate model of time and personal control power.

A theory of religion must be based on experiencing and visionary plants, experiencing and perceiving the block-universe worldline snake explains intense religious experiencing and gives a perspective on moral conduct of life as lower interpretation of religion.


God is the truth about personal control agency; God is the hidden uncontrollable source of control-thoughts.

The new revelation is the oldest: tree vs. snake = “freewill branching” vs. “block universe worldline” model of time and personal control power.


Real ecstasy is the sacrament revealing the block universe worldline snake and noncontrol.

Religion without the intense altered state is half-developed at best.

Elaine Pagels contrasted “Orthodox vs. Gnostics”, Freke & Gandy used the terms “Exoteric vs. Esoteric”. Freke wrote about entheogens, ahistoricity of Jesus, and no-free-will.

Mithras is born from the cyberspacetime rock block universe worldline.


ancient wisdom 😈👹🐏🐍🐲🐉🌳🍄🍾🍷⛵

🐄🍄🌳✝🐍

🐄💩🍄✝

⛄🎅🎄🎁✝🚼🍄🦌

🎅🎄 Happy Yule! 🍄🦌

🐍🐲🐉🌳

🎄🎁✝🚼🍄🦌

— Michael Hoffman
December 30, 2018

The Egodeath Yahoo group is a Weblog sent out by Michael Hoffman,
covering the cybernetic theory of ego death and ego transcendence,
including:

o Block-universe determinism/Fatedness, the closed
and preexisting future, tenseless time, free will as illusory, the
holographic universe, and predestination and Reformed theology.

o Cognitive science, mental construct processing, mental models,
ontological idealism, contemporary metaphysics of the continuant
self, cybernetic self-control, personal control agency, moral agency,
and self-government.

o Zen satori, short-path enlightenment, and Alan Watts;
transpersonal psychology, Ken Wilber, and integral theory.

o Entheogens and psychedelic drugs, mystery religions, mythic
metaphor and allegorical encoding, the mystic altered state, mystic
and religious experiencing, visionary states, religious rapture, and
Acid Rock mysticism.

o Loss of control, self-control seizure, cognitive instability, and
psychosis and schizophrenia.


— Michael Hoffman
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath
http://www.egodeath.com

He saw something terrifying and died: he saw a snake monster controlling his thoughts.

garden gate guarded by the angel of death, fruit in the garden guarded by the snake monster unveiled, the unworthy cast themselves out running away in terror back through the gate


seeing something transcendent that kills the seer

the classic mytheme of {seeing something transcendent that kills the seer}

myths about seeing or hearing something captivating, a fatal perception, beautifully attractive and deathly horrific

Perceiving the normally veiled block-universe worldline snake monster causes death, sacrifice, and rebirth; gives transformed model of time and control.


classic peak experiential insight leading to prayer and sacrifice of child-thinking, the mind eventually washed as white garments, a helpless superpuppet conscious of ever-dependence on the Creator

a different innate mode, a different experiential model of time and control, as a puppet frozen in rock rather than a king steering in a tree

Loose cognitive association binding reveals the experience of block-universe noncontrol and one’s pre-given worldline of control-thoughts forced upon the mind by the hidden uncontrollable controller.


We are normally unaware that our thoughts depend on the Creator.

Putting trust in God means becoming aware that our control-thoughts have always secretly come from God; we were always dependent on God.

The hidden uncontrollable controller created and continues to run all of Creation.

Hyper-Calvinism: everything is the Creator’s fault.


Not pointed out enough: the entire descendants of Abraham are through Isaac, and Abraham is willing to obey God’s order to eliminate Isaac therefore eliminate all his promised descendants.

Abraham’s pseudo-sacrifice of Isaac is myth about sustainability of a nation.

If a people is to sustain, they must sacrifice the ram, not the child, not damaging personal control agency, but understanding cybernetic transcendence, no-free-will, the block-universe worldline.


The visionary-state experience is ultimately of timeless pre-setness and noncontrol.

The visionary-state experience is initially of nondual unity oneness.

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Elements of Egodeath theory connecting to disparate religion positions:

Christian — Biblical myth, esoteric Christianity

Atheist — loosecog block universe experiencing discovery that religious experiencing is about source of control

Pagan — world religious mythology is decoded by the Egodeath theory

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Misc:

🍄 inspired Rock is the authentic mystery religion of the late-modern era

Reality breaks through into the matrix virtual reality.

spiritual dunamis (experience of power overpowered)

You burn in hell until purified and regenerated.

redeem Christianity

Pop Sike Cult is slightly steered off a cliff.

Metal poetry wrote about the most intense experience, then late-modern Science formalized the experiential discovery.

— Michael Hoffman
January 3, 2019

The Egodeath Yahoo group is a Weblog sent out by Michael Hoffman,
covering the cybernetic theory of ego death and ego transcendence,
including:

o Block-universe determinism/Fatedness, the closed
and preexisting future, tenseless time, free will as illusory, the
holographic universe, and predestination and Reformed theology.

o Cognitive science, mental construct processing, mental models,
ontological idealism, contemporary metaphysics of the continuant
self, cybernetic self-control, personal control agency, moral agency,
and self-government.

o Zen satori, short-path enlightenment, and Alan Watts;
transpersonal psychology, Ken Wilber, and integral theory.

o Entheogens and psychedelic drugs, mystery religions, mythic
metaphor and allegorical encoding, the mystic altered state, mystic
and religious experiencing, visionary states, religious rapture, and
Acid Rock mysticism.

o Loss of control, self-control seizure, cognitive instability, and
psychosis and schizophrenia.


— Michael Hoffman
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath
http://www.egodeath.com

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The call to pursue the Greatest Achievements; Exploration and Discovery

The scientific theory of transcendent knowledge is the intersection of religious mythology, music, mental-model transformation, Physics, experiencing no-free-will, & psychedelic loose cognition.

Brains that take us to the stars were inspired throughout history by the cognitive loosening effect of visionary plants.

Intellectual Leaders heed the call to transcendent achievement.

“We will cure diseases, we will go to the stars, there’ll be nothing that we cannot do”

The spirit of “going to the stars” means “explore the frontier of consciousness”.

The Western mind is driven to discovery in new fields, an ambition, duty, and expectation to make the most profound breakthroughs.

Greco/Roman culture sought not just to journey to the stars, but to journey beyond the sphere of fixed stars.

The Western mind has a heroic drive to find the greatest achievements, particularly to slay the dragon, which is the altered-state block universe worldline snake monster.


Science solved the Mystery Religion mystery: The sacred food induces experiencing block-universe no-free-will (worldline = snake) rather than the usual branching-tree model of time and control.

Exploring the frontiers, discovery in new fields, profound breakthroughs, journey beyond the sphere of fixed stars, greatest achievements, slay the dragon.

Peak exploration, “going to the stars”, includes consciousness exploration, and decoding religious mythology as description of consciousness exploration.

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Egodeath Core Theory

Religious mythology is metaphor describing psychedelic loose cognition revealing noncontrol and the frozen, pre-set block-universe.

Religious mythology is description of psychedelic loosened cognition experientially revealing noncontrol and block-universe Eternalism.

Spirituality is the mind’s capability of entering the loose cognitive associative state, to experience the no-free-will, fixed-future model of control and time per Minkowski & Parmenides.


{perfection} is attainable, per New Testament. {perfection} is esoteric; it means developing the mental model of personal control power and time, in the altered state. removing naive freewill-premised thinking.

{perfection} means {completion} of the series of mystic-state experiences, to still have freewill-premised thinking but add hidden no-free-will thinking. cleansing mental error about control-power and time.


Religious mythology is description of psychoactive plants giving experience of one’s worldline frozen into the block universe (Minkowski), leading to revised mental model of control and time.

The mytheme {sacrificing your son} is metaphor describing repudiating the naive childish freewill-premised way of thinking about control and time.

Jung and Campbell substitute the dream state of consciousness for what’s really the visionary plant state of consciousness giving intense, mind-changing mystic experience.


In the intense mystic altered state, is experienced the frozen block-universe model of control and time, perceiving one’s future path as snake-shaped, transforming the mental model of personal control agency.

Time, in one’s life, is a snake-shaped worldline frozen into the block universe.


There are two states of human experience: the ordinary state for daily mundane life, and the intense mystic altered state, a crazy trip casting out the demon of freewill-premised thinking.


“God exists” means we are not in control of our future thoughts and actions, but are puppets of something outside our control.

The word ‘God’ refers to that which secretly forces our control-thoughts upon us.

‘God’ is that which is secretly in control of our thoughts and actions, as revealed by the sacred meal.


‘multiverse’ assumes there are multiple really possible futures. The block-universe Eternalism of Parmenides and Minkowski is premised on a single ever-existing future we’re powerless to change.

Replace exoteric-only Christianity by authentic, 2-layer, New Testament Christianity: exoteric literalism + esoteric metaphorical description of altered-state experiential revelation of control & time.

Christianity is true and correct, when understood as a 2-layer system: first exoteric literalist ordinary-state freewill moralism, and then additionally, esoteric, metaphorical, altered-state, no-free-will, revised thinking about moral agency culpability.

The mytheme {garden of Eden} is ironic: actually, the snake’s fruit reveals the secret of no-free-will; the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil loosens cognition actually *removes* the illusion of freewill.

Ordinary-state theories of mythology fail to address *experience* in the altered state, where religion comes from, contrasted with the ordinary state (literalist religion).

There are 2 experiential perspectives.

Exoteric literalist Christianity is only the lower half of Christianity, for not-yet-mature people.

In the mystic altered state, is the no-free-will experience of being a helpless puppet controlled by a hidden uncontrollable controller.

The {virgin birth} is an altered-state METAPHOR, a mytheme.

Choice is not the same as free will. We make choices, that doesn’t mean freewill is real. Our choices are frozen in the future, we discover what we are destined/forced to choose.

Consider ancient Greek society with Mystery Religion: children & animals = freewill-premised thinkers; initiated adults sacrifice & repudiate their previous freewill-premised thinking about control & time.

Free will is for children who haven’t been initiated in the series of sacred meals, to produce transformed thinking.

Saturn eats his children, at the sphere of the fixed stars.

Is there a *single* future, or, a branching plurality of futures or truly potential futures? The block universe model of time and control has a single ever-existing future.

The ego is the experience of personal control power moving through time, during daily life in the ordinary state of consciousness.

The completed perfected monk does not “lack” ego; the monk has added an *additional* alternative perspective, where the ego is recognized to be an illusion of experiential perspective.

There’s the childish sinful error of freewill-premised thinking — until the Eucharistic fire purifies the mental model of control and time.

Salvation is preordained, per Calvinism. Against Calvinism, heaven and hell are metaphors, describing intense mystic-state experiencing during revising the mental model of control and time. Those destined to have their mental model revised are {the elect}.

“Those whom the gods wish to regenerate, they first make mad; ecstatic, frenzied.

Hell is a myth, a metaphorical description of intense mystic-state experiencing.


Contrast the nonbranching shape of the snake, vs. the shape of the branching tree.

The shape of the branching tree (personal control premised on freewill) is contrasted with the shape of the snake (personal control premised on no-free-will).

The {snake} or {dragon-monster} is the mystic-state experience of the frozen pre-existing worldline of your future control-thoughts, in the block universe per Minkowski & Parmenides.

The {snake} or {dragon-monster} is the most important mytheme, in world religious mythology.

The {snake} or {dragon-monster} describes one’s pre-given worldline frozen into the block universe per Minkowski, experienced in the intense mystic altered state.

The {snake} or {dragon-monster} is one’s frozen, pre-given worldline frozen into the block universe per Minkowski, perceived and experienced in the mystic altered state.

The mytheme {snake} means worldline frozen into block universe reclining at god’s banquet with “mixed wine”.

The {snake} is the most common mytheme in world religious mythology because experiencing one’s frozen block universe *worldline* in the loose cognitive state changes the mental model of control & time.

🌳🐍 The mythemes {tree} and {snake} describe the two experiential models of control and time, based on the shape of the branching tree, and the shape of the linear, non-branching snake.


The Egodeath theory scientifically explains psychedelic loose cognition in religion.

Experiencing no-free-will by being brought to ingest the sacred meal repeatedly, leads to changing the mental model of control and time to the block universe model, retaining the initial, freewill model too.

Psychedelic loose cognition reliably give the experience of frozen block universe containing one’s snake-shaped worldline and non-control — our 2nd mental model of control and time.

When you perceive the frozen rock block universe, you die as a control agent; death is rock.

“Mixed wine” in Western Antiquity was mushroom wine, as in the Eucharist and Mystery Religions; the timeless inspiration for high Western culture.

Mushrooms put the mind into a different experiential mode, showing the alternative, block-universe model of control and time.

Religious mythology (mainly Western, also World) is description of altered-state block-universe worldline experience.

The Egodeath theory is a positive theory of how the mind works, and how myth is description of how the mind works.

Myth describes cognitive phenomenology of the intense altered state of loose cognitive association.

Forming transcendent knowledge requires combining the intense visionary state with timeless no-free-will ideas — these multiple pieces have to be put together, not just presented each in isolation.

Theory of religion is altered-state based above all.

Religious mythology is description of psychedelic loose cognition revealing *experience* — experience of block universe worldline presetness and noncontrol, contrasted with the other, initial model of control and time (branching possibilities with power of steering).


The mytheme-combinations {a king steering in a tree} and {a snake frozen in rock} are the most direct analogies describing the ordinary-state mental model of self, control, and time (Possibilism) and the altered-state model (Eternalism).

What’s objectively real is metaphorically described by religious mythology. Religious myth is description of the revealed real.

“Literalist Ordinary-state Freewill” thinking (exoteric) vs. higher, “Metaphorical Altered-state No-free-will/Noncontrol” thinking (the esoteric layer of religion).

Ptolemaic astral ascent mysticism was the frame of reference throughout antiquity and the early Modern era, for mystic experiencing and series of initiations.

The theory of religious mythology and experiential transformation.

The unenlightened imagine enlightenment, and are disappointed by what enlightenment is.

There are two distinct systems of morality – exoterics’ conception of personal moral agency culpability, vs. esoterics’ conception in which the Creator is ultimately responsible, as puppetmaster, for all control-thoughts and personal actions.

In antiquity, children are temporarily misled, but upon initiation, the higher meaning of mythemes was revealed. conceal but then reveal. Not just conceal/mislead.

Both atheism and fundamentalism are based in the ordinary state of consciousness; gnosticism and mysticism are based in the altered state – New Testament alludes to double-meanings.

Bible verses about two meanings, secret meaning, understood only by the elect:

Mark 4:12

1 Corinthians‬ ‭2:7‬ ‭ESV‬‬‬‬‬‬‬‬‬‬‬‬
“But we impart a secret and hidden wisdom of God, which God decreed before the ages for our glory.” ‭‭


The word ‘death’ has two meanings: literal bodily death, vs. mystic-state ego death.

In religious mythology, any talk of ‘death’ must cover mystic ego death too, or else the result is literalist reductionism, which fails to account for intense religious experiencing.


The goal in Buddhist religious mythology is to *avoid* and stop reincarnating back into the earthly body again; stop returning to the Possibilism mental model of self, control, and time.

Buddhist escape from reincarnation is equivalent to the equivalent Christian heaven/hell. The goal is to *avoid* reincarnation.

Reincarnation was considered undesirable, not good.


Unless you experience spiritual crucifixion first-hand, you doubt it.

Doubting Thomas had to experience the wound in the side (an altered-state mytheme).

Direct intense mystic experiencing characterized Mystery Religion throughout antiquity, including esoteric Christianity and Gnosticism.


Mythemes, mythological entities exist but not literally.

{heaven, hell, , demon possession, angels, regeneration, death and rebirth} are metaphorical descriptions of the classic series of mystic-state experiencing.


Christianity is metaphorical description of the Eucharist-induced altered state changing the experience and model of control and time.

Be able to withstand esoteric ideas:
o Jesus was a composite figure, including the mushroom.
o There’s no free will; the future already exists.
o Religion comes from visionary plants.

The mytheme {God} refers to the uncontrollable hidden controller/creator of personal control thoughts.

Religion is two-level: first exoteric, then esoteric; lower religion then higher religion.

Forgiveness of the elect occurs through experiencing no-free-will / noncontrol, in the altered state from the Eucharist “mixed wine”.

The future already exists and the path of control through time is frozen in stone.

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Hypercalvinism: everything is the creator’s fault. God is the author of evil.

The devil is a helpless puppet of God the puppetmaster; God is culpable for the devil’s actions.


The veiled secret of no-free-will is revealed by the Eucharist, revealing through altered perception and experiencing, the veiled truth about personal control.

The lower, exoteric layer of religion is free-will premised; the higher, esoteric layer of religion is no-free-will premised. This is a kind of way around contradiction, a kind of compatibilism.

You are forced to choose the way the Creator made you choose, when the Creator created your worldline rail of control thoughts laid out frozen into the block universe.


Job was right and righteous: God is the author of evil. Job’s neighbors, unrighteous, with confused preconceptions about the Creator.

Esoteric religious experiencing, in the intense mystic altered state, experientially reveals a different model of control and time.

Every brand of religion or interpretation has a kernel of truth. What is the primary meaning, the main referent of religious mythology, regardless of the surface brand of religion.

Inferior theories of mythology don’t base mythology in the psychedelic loose cognitive state.

Bad theories of myth fail to account for or address the experiential altered-state dimension, so are reductionist, based in Ordinary State of Consciousness.

The incorrect theories of religious mythology are based in the mundane, day-to-day, ordinary state of consciousness; they lack intense mystic-state, religious experiencing.

Religion and mythology without psychedelic loose cognition is reductionist, exoteric-only.

Real religion has a lower, exoteric layer, and then additionally, a higher, esoteric layer.


To understand spirituality, understand psychedelic effects on cognition, experiencing frozen block-universe w/ snake-shaped worldline monster demanding sacrifice of the freewill premise, per myth.

Be a higher-level, esoteric-aware Christian, not an ignorant exoteric literalist Christian with a childish level of understanding.

Religion has always been informed by visionary plants. Abundant evidence has been gathered.


People don’t necessarily need first-hand ingesting of the sacred meal.

Fully recognize the cognitive loosening effects of the ‘mixed wine’: experiencing control and time differently and describing the experience by mythic analogy.

Ordinary-state based theories of mythology are flimsy and reductionists and irrelevant: for example, “the gods represent historical heroes”, or “myth refers to the sun and planets” is reductionist, only true in a minor, incidental sense.

The dream theory of myth is off-base, but is correct in placing mythology in a state of consciousness other than the ordinary waking state.

Mythic symbols describe psychedelically loosened cognition associations, to give the perception of and experienc of block universe noncontrol and pre-setness.

Psychedelic loose cognition is the common source of mystic experience throughout history.

Higher, esoteric religionists are allied with lower, exoteric, literalist, ordinary-state-based Christians, but it’s difficult to relate, as a kind of “gnostic”, higher-level, esoteric, metaphorical, mystic-state Christian.

In antiquity, the stars were thought to be closer, but we could travel beyond the sphere of the fixed stars, through the “hierarchical heavens”, in the ancient altered state-based Ptolemaic astral ascent mysticism.


Popular Psychedelic Culture is half-truth at best; a dead end, pseudo-transcendence.

Pop Sike is mainly late 1960s singles made by small labels.

Popular Psychedelic culture is broader, 20th Century, social engineering.

Psychedelics conferences promote Pop Sike Cult and are a degenerate dead end, not leading to transcendent knowledge or mental model transformation from the Possibilism to the Eternalism model of self, control, and time.

Reject & disavow Pop Sike Cult – popular psychedelic culture.


Loss of the experience of being in control leads to revdising the mental model of control and time, per intense religious experiencing myth describes: hell, flames, trial, regeneration.

I don’t advocate first-hand use of psychoactives. People should understand what occurs in the mind immersed in psychedelic loose cognitive association.

Psychedelic loose cognition isn’t inherently degenerate; it can lead to higher mental structuring and multi-state durability, to endure the experience of no-free-will.

Psychedelic loose cognition was foundational for Greek, Roman, and Christian history.

Psychedelic loose cognition can be used to weaken or strengthen culture.


Eating the body of Jesus and drinking the blood of Jesus, or of Dionysus, makes sense if the composite Jesus figure included mushrooms.

Various miracles and riddles in the New Testament make sense if descriptions of expeirencing no-free-will and discovering the veiled situation of profound dependence on the Creator.


Jesus didn’t exist as a single historical individual; Jesus is a composite figure, who existed figuratively/mythically in experience.

Ingesting Jesus is ingesting the sacred meal, mixed wine, the Eucharist.

The series of sacred meal immersions in loose cognitive association transforms the mental model of self, control, and time.


Psychedelic loose cognition, to experience the block universe worldline, is the backbone of high civilization throughout history, including manna in the Old Testament, the sacred meal throughout Hellenistic Mystery Religion, and the Eucharist in New Testament Christianity.

Christian morality does not mean prohibition of mind-revealing plants, except during the initial, childish phase of religious participation.

Psychoactive mushrooms are the most representative fountain of inspiration of Western religion, including Ancient Near Eastern religion, ancient Greek religion, Hellenistic religion, Roman religion, Jewish religion, New Testament Christianity, and Northern paganism.


The psychoactive “sacred meal” was the foundation and inspiration of Mystery Religion, the means by which the mental model was profoundly transformed.

Psychedelic loose cognition isn’t demonic, but casts out the demon that possesses the mind and causes turmoil in the loose cognitive state.

‘drugs’ != dark. depends. heaven & hell & transformation.

Parenting in Greece integrated Mystery Religion initiation, transforming the child into the adult, properly integrating psychedelics into the maturation process in a society with strong families.


The Egodeath theory supports direct, scientifically explained religious revelation and transformation, free of any arbitrary brand stylization.

The scientific Egodeath theory is compatible with a parallel particular brand of religious mythology as a particular description and expression, forming a twofold combination of a pure higher-power spirituality distinct from but parallel with (for example) restorationist New Testament Christianity.

The Egodeath scientific model and the particular brand of religion are mutually supporting, especially with a 2-level version of Christianity (exoteric then additionally esoteric).

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Christian history

The King Jesus figure is altered-state metaphor, with modified Roman Imperial ruler cult metaphor.

Independent primitive churches were later taken over by ruling-class Mithraic “fathers”, leading to top-down Catholicism.

The Jesus figure is a synthetic composite.


Edwin Johnson in England around 1895 claimed that none of the caesars ever heard of Jesus or Christianity; that’s how late and retrojected Christian pseudo-history is.

Jesus is a synthetic composite figure per esotericism, but can support exoteric Christians.

Atheists are literalists, like fundamentalists (lower, exoteric Christians).

Ignorant Catholics deny that the “universal church” strategically embraced and co-opted paganism.

Jesus is a mythic composite figure. Jesus didn’t literally live, nor die.

Be an esoteric, not literalist, religionist/Christian.

Christianity is true, when correctly recognized as a 2-layer religion; 2-level Christianity, supported by gospel verses.

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New Testament Christianity Co-opted the Old Testament

The Old Testament is attached to the New Testament because old was considered true.

The new, Christian movement needed a pseudo-historical lineage, so co-opted the Old Testament.

Christianity is only incidentally Jewish; Christianity is counter-Jewish in ways.

New Testament Christianity is Jewish themed but is not of Jewish origin.

Christianity countered and co-opted the Old Testament.

Primitive Christians stole and commandeered and co-opted the Old Testament to serve as a fake venerable long (pseudo) history for their actually brand new religion.

People thought old = true/wisdom.

Christianity stole the Old Testament, to pretend not to be a new religion.

Old was considered true, so Christians needed a claim to antiquity, and successfully commandeered the Old Testament.

The original disciples of Jesus (“the Christians”) commandeered the Jews’ scriptures, to deny the truth, that Christianity was a new religion.

Antiquity held “old = true”, so Christianity had to pretend to be an old religion, so strategically stole, commandeered, and co-opted the Old Testament.

New Testament Christianity didn’t value the Old Testament in itself, but valued it because the Old Testament provided a (fake, pseudo) validation that their “new” religion was archaic thus true.

Wouter Hanegraaff is a scientific historian, who differentiates pseudo-history, fake lineage, fake claims to historical antiquity.

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Reclaiming Transcendent / Ecstatic Dionysus

Psychedelic loose cognition needs to be incorporated into civilization in the way that strengthens and supports people.

Take back and reclaim Dionysus, ecstatic religion, music, festivals, technology, electric music, colored lights, and light shows.

The best psychedelics-inspired art clearly expresses transformation of the mental model, through perception and experiencing, the mind immersed in a series of sacred meal intense altered state sessions.

Art and music inspired by psychedelic loose cognition is the authentic mystery religion of the late-modern era.

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Psychedelics can possibly weaken culture, but we cannot simply negatively value Dionysus.

High culture specifically needs to co-opt electric music, Dionysus, and visionary plants knowledge.

Lyrics convey the altered state, describing the classic phenomenology of the loose cognitive experience.

Good psychedelic inspired music has intelligent descriptions of the altered-state phenomenology.

Strong Western culture, and cultural roots, requires integrating Dionysus — not just mundane ordinary-state-based daily family life.

Greeks had family and sacred meal mystery religion.

Lyrics that are inspired by psychedelic loose cognition are authentic.

Uninspired music has no no sacred meal, no Bacchus; it is mundane, based only in the ordinary state.

Uninspired means not inspired by psychedelic loose cognition; there’s nothing of Dionysus in it

You can’t extract the transcendent truth out of Pop Sike Cult, because Pop Sike Cult fails to include transcendent truth: esoteric, altered-state based, capturing and explaining the frozen block universe worldline experience.

The mysteries of the universe are the revealed mysteries of the source of personal control across time, expressed in psychedelic music.


Psychedelic loose cognitive music and art is the authentic mystery religion of the late-modern era.

Transcendent music describes experiencing loose cognitive, nonbranching, block-universe worldline Eternalism.

Commandeer the fruits of unbound, loosened culture, and reevaluate valuation of them, the products of Dionysus.

Psychedelic loose cognition is not all bad or all good, not inherently debasing or degenerate.

It depends on use, as the Greeks and Romans, Jews and Christians put the sacred meal to use in strengthening people to endure a direct experience of profound dependence on the Creator.

Reaching the transcendent potentials of the mind requires music, Dionysus, entertainment, culture, light shows, integrated healthily into culture, bringing Dionysus Mystery Religion to the family and society, like in Greek antiquity.

Everyone is born in a state of Original Degeneracy, unable to withstand an encounter with God-consciousness.

Some minds — the Elect — are destined to turn, see the truth, revise their mental model, and their sin be forgiven, their mental error about personal moral control agency corrected.


There needs to be a vent for decadence and playful exploration.

We must reevaluate all cultural values.

Don’t allow the products of decadence to be controlled and owned by the decadent.


Culture must have space for Dionysus and transgression, or else people go looking for authenticity outside the culture.

Psychedelics-inspired music connects with Mystery Religion cultural roots.

Authentic psychedelics-inspired lyrics.

Music inspired by psychedelic loose cognition is the authentic mystery religion of the late-modern era.

The best altered-state inspired lyrics are classic, hearkening back to Greek myth, conveying timeless peak profundity.

The Egodeath theory redeems and transforms Pop Sike Cult.


Moralist Christianity considers all of popular culture to be Satan’s realm, disavowing it all, including Christian music. Popular culture is all “the world”, and we should “reject the world”.


Culture must have space for Dionysus and transgression, or else will project authenticity outside the culture, and look for transcendence and authenticity outside the culture.

Dionysus has a big place in Western culture.

Embrace in a healthy strong family culture: electric music, movies that describe experiencing block-universe eternalism, and light shows.

The Egodeath Yahoo group is a Weblog sent out by Michael Hoffman,
covering the cybernetic theory of ego death and ego transcendence,
including:

o Block-universe determinism/Fatedness, the closed
and preexisting future, tenseless time, free will as illusory, the
holographic universe, and predestination and Reformed theology.

o Cognitive science, mental construct processing, mental models,
ontological idealism, contemporary metaphysics of the continuant
self, cybernetic self-control, personal control agency, moral agency,
and self-government.

o Zen satori, short-path enlightenment, and Alan Watts;
transpersonal psychology, Ken Wilber, and integral theory.

o Entheogens and psychedelic drugs, mystery religions, mythic
metaphor and allegorical encoding, the mystic altered state, mystic
and religious experiencing, visionary states, religious rapture, and
Acid Rock mysticism.

o Loss of control, self-control seizure, cognitive instability, and
psychosis and schizophrenia.


— Michael Hoffman
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath
http://www.egodeath.com

The Egodeath Yahoo group is a Weblog sent out by Michael Hoffman,
covering the cybernetic theory of ego death and ego transcendence,
including:

o Block-universe determinism/Fatedness, the closed
and preexisting future, tenseless time, free will as illusory, the
holographic universe, and predestination and Reformed theology.

o Cognitive science, mental construct processing, mental models,
ontological idealism, contemporary metaphysics of the continuant
self, cybernetic self-control, personal control agency, moral agency,
and self-government.

o Zen satori, short-path enlightenment, and Alan Watts;
transpersonal psychology, Ken Wilber, and integral theory.

o Entheogens and psychedelic drugs, mystery religions, mythic
metaphor and allegorical encoding, the mystic altered state, mystic
and religious experiencing, visionary states, religious rapture, and
Acid Rock mysticism.

o Loss of control, self-control seizure, cognitive instability, and
psychosis and schizophrenia.


— Michael Hoffman
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath
http://www.egodeath.com

The Egodeath Yahoo group is a Weblog sent out by Michael Hoffman,
covering the cybernetic theory of ego death and ego transcendence,
including:

o Block-universe determinism/Fatedness, the closed
and preexisting future, tenseless time, free will as illusory, the
holographic universe, and predestination and Reformed theology.

o Cognitive science, mental construct processing, mental models,
ontological idealism, contemporary metaphysics of the continuant
self, cybernetic self-control, personal control agency, moral agency,
and self-government.

o Zen satori, short-path enlightenment, and Alan Watts;
transpersonal psychology, Ken Wilber, and integral theory.

o Entheogens and psychedelic drugs, mystery religions, mythic
metaphor and allegorical encoding, the mystic altered state, mystic
and religious experiencing, visionary states, religious rapture, and
Acid Rock mysticism.

o Loss of control, self-control seizure, cognitive instability, and
psychosis and schizophrenia.


— Michael Hoffman
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath
http://www.egodeath.com

The Egodeath theory is the “analogy/ psychedelics/ block-universe/ noncontrol” theory of religious experiencing, religious mythology, and mental model transformation.

o analogy/metaphor/description
… describes
o psychedelics/entheogens/sacred meal/Eucharist
… revealing experience and perception of
o block universe/ snake-shaped worldline/ timelessness/ frozen time/ preexisting future thoughts
… and
o no-free-will, non-control, puppethood, control-thoughts forced upon you, loss of sense of wielding personal control power

The Egodeath theory provides direct, plain, straight-talking summary statements providing uncensored, non-euphemistic summaries of the analogy/ psychedelics/ block-universe worldlines/ noncontrol” theory of religious mental model transformation.


In the ordinary state of consciousness, the mind experiences time and control as a king-like autonomous control agent that wields personal control while steering through branching possibilities.

In the psychedelic sacred meal state of consciousness, with loose cognitive association enabling mental restructuring, the mind experiences time and control as a snake-shaped, pre-given path of control-thoughts frozen in time, frozen in a space-time block universe; experiencing timeless non-control, no-free-will, and monopossibility.


The Eleusinian mysteries are explained the same as all Hellenistic mystery religions.

The kykeon is the same as the Eucharist and the sacred meal.

In mystery religion, religious mythology describes repeatedly ingesting the sacred meal, giving the mystic-state experience of timeless no-free-will, eventually directing the mind to create and add an alternate mental model of time and personal control.

A coherent version of Compatibilism:

In the ordinary state of consciousness, we experience freewill-based control power, the ability to steer among branching possibilities, into an open, non-existing future.

In the altered state from the sacred meal, we experience no-free-will.

The mind has the potential to experience both freewill and no-free-will.

The ultimate experience is the mystic-state experiential revelation of no-free-will and helpless dependence on pre-existing control thoughts.
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In the mystic altered state from the sacred meal, the mental model and experiential mode is transformed to reveal the veiled nature of frozen time and pre-set control.

The Egodeath theory clearly, openly reveals the veiled Mysteries for the world.

Mythology describes the sacred meal revealing veiled no-free-will, a different mental model that is innate in the mind.

The ultimate truth stems from timeless natural order.
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The ‘church’ means the collection of individuals who are destined for salvation/ redemption/ awakening to higher reality.

Christianity is one description of esoteric truth, about how the mind works in the mystic state after the sacred meal, combined with a certain social-political & mundane moral-conduct system.
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The mind has interesting potential in multiple states of consciousness including from the Eucharist that transforms thinking about personal control power and time.

A mind can lack or have firsthand experience of the intense altered state.

A mind can lack or have the understanding of what is revealed in the mystic altered state; understanding the two experiential mental models of possibility branching, time, and control, and the dynamics of switching to the later, second innate mode of experiencing and the second mental model of time and control.

The strongest understanding combines firsthand experience with full conceptual understanding as in the Egodeath theory.

There can be largely full understanding with 2nd-hand understanding of first-hand experiencing.
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Dionysus is a major elevated component of high civilization.

Esoteric mysticism is simple to rationally explain as metaphor or analogy describing the psychedelic sacred meal-induced experience of frozen-time noncontrol, no-free-will, and monopossibility.

The future already exists set in stone.

In the mystic state experience, the mind is conscious of being helplessly dependent on the external creator of control thoughts.

A person’s future control-thoughts laid out in spacetime like a snake frozen in rock.

Mind metaprogramming is psychedelic self-help, in which you run into the limit of control and autonomous self-creation – the classic revelation of the snake frozen in rock, with personal control experienced as being profoundly dependent on the god-level.

The worldline snake of personal control thoughts, that is frozen without autonomous control in the Minkowski block universe, is the ultimate heroic resulting vision when you reprogram thinking.
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The ‘church’ is the set of people who at least understand, and possibly also experience, psychedelic block-universe no-free-will — the complete set of people across time and place.

The mind relates directly to God in terms of control, the ultimate source of personal control.

The veiled source of control-thoughts is revealed in the Eucharist-induced numinous ecstatic state.
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The Eucharistic sacred meal was mushrooms, the flesh of Christ, bringing the experience and vision of no-free-will and utter dependence on pre-set thoughts.

Against lower, exoteric Christianity, Jesus is a figure and a mushroom sent to us by God in the likeness of human flesh, revealing no-free-will & non-control, perceiving control-thoughts as pre-set, given to us from a hidden uncontrollable source.

Jesus is the sacred meal sent to us by God in the likeness of human flesh, that sacrifices the initial mental model of time, self, and control.
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Religions borrow; they are equivalent, they each have a lower, exoteric, literalist level and a higher, esoteric level, and some content on the mundane, daily social-political level.
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No-free-will experiencing is partly bad, or a sacrifice, insofar as it entails the death of the usual experiential identity, as the price of gaining a revised mental model of time and control.

The sacred meal brings the power of the Holy Spirit, including the loss of the normal experience of control.
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Cultural Christians adopt exotic alien foreign religion of Buddhism. If you go running after other cultures’ religions, you fail to understand any culture’s religion; you fail to understand esoteric, higher-level religion.
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Miracles are rational and metaphorical, not literal.

Miracles are taken literally by those on the outside; miracles are recognized as metaphorical description of the Eucharistic altered state by those on the inside.

Religion in its lower form is irrational; religion in its higher form or mode or layer is metaphorical — metaphorical description of the non-ordinary state of experiencing, from the sacred meal.
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Sacred (vs. profane) music reflects sacrificing one’s childish, inexperienced premise of freewill thinking and possibility branching into a supposedly open future.

High art, high poetry, describes the higher level of experiencing, in the transformative altered state.

The debased, mundane, lower level of art and poetry reflects the mundane, daily life, ordinary state of consciousness.

Real poetry and art describes mystic revelation, not mundane ordinary-state experiencing in daily life.
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Exoteric literalists = the lower level of religion, of outsiders.

Esoteric insiders = the higher level of religion, of those on the inside.
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Salvation in the mystic state is a real phenomenon, but everything depends on definitions.
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At the time of a person’s mystic ego death, Hell is the futility, the state of being under condemnation, while trying to retain stable control based on unstable childish delusion.

There is literal hell or heaven for lower, exoteric thinking.

For lower, exoteric religion, the freewill agent is punished in hell or rewarded in heaven.

For higher, esoteric religion, hell is the corrective non-control, no-free-will mystic-state experience from the Eucharist sacred meal; heaven is the positive experiencing of dependence and unity.

The mystic altered state is the experience of block-universe no-free-will, with one’s stream of thoughts perceived as a snake-shaped worldline frozen in the spacetime rock, per Minkowski & Parmenides.
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Christianity is a resource to be revised and corrected, to give a people life and durability.

Christianity isn’t something given as-is; own and control and forcefully define Christianity and set it aright.
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The tree and the snake 🌳🐍 are the two fundamental contrasting models of control and time, based on the key idea of possibility branching or non-branching as the control-agent moves into the future while wielding the power of steering and thus creating the future, where the future was purportedly undefined and nonexistent.

Ingesting the sacred meal is not necessary, for a strong degree of mental model transformation.

Religious revelation about time & control can be explained simply and straightforwardly.

People who only experience the ordinary state *can* understand the analogy, how religious mythology describes by analogies the transformation of experiential mode and of the mental model of time and control.

The Egodeath theory explains how the normal mind normally, typically works when initially only exposed to the ordinary state of consciousness, and then repeatedly exposed to the altered state.

A few people can do non-drug-based meditation to experience the intense mystic state, but that is not the traditional, normal, reliable, repeatable, achievable way.

Anyone can intellectually understand the theory of mental model transformation without needing the altered state (regardless of whether the mystic altered state is accessed via psychedelics).

‘Knowing god’ means understanding that personal control doesn’t actually come from the person, but from the Creator.

The person helplessly receives their control thoughts from God, where ‘God’ refers to the hidden, uncontrollable source of control.

The snake is the #1 mytheme in world mythology, becasue experiencing the personal control worldline frozen into the block universe is the peak religious experience from the sacred meal.

The shape of the branching tree is the mind’s initial incorrect model of time and control. In contrast, the snake is the shape of the worldline of personal control-thoughts frozen in the block universe.

If you are among the elect, the snake describes fatedness to bring the Eucharist 🍄 to you repeatedly, the “fire” that eventually revises your mental model of time and control, by revealing and exposing and disproving the intial model of control, putting it to the test.
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An esoteric Christian is counted among the elect, as a pre-determined member of “those on the inside”.

The sacred garden, and Heaven, have a ‘death’-gate; in the garden is the snake vs. tree contrast.

The snake brings the Elect the fruit that makes you die as a control agency model, but not die as a viable agent with a mind and body.

The snake vs. tree in the gated garden is metaphorical description of the altered-state experiential revelation of time and control.

The 4D block universe with personal noncontrol is experienced in the Holy Spirit mystic state after ingesting the Eucharistic sacred meal.

An initiate is a person whose mind has been mentally immersed in multiple sessions to revise mental model by loosened-mind experience.

Learning the Egodeath theory — the analogy/ psychedelic/ block-universe/ no-free-will model of religious mythology — only in the ordinary, tight-binding state of consciousness produces understanding, though such a person isn’t properly an “initiate”.
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Spacetime containing personal control is a frozen spacetime block (Minkowski & Parmenides) containing the embedded personal worldline of control-thoughts.

An Old Testament passage speaks of the 4-dimensional block universe with length & width & breadth & depth.

Mature initiates can bear the revealed knowledge of 4D control-space-time.

Non-initiates die ego death upon {seeing the face of God} and {pronouncing the tetragrammaton}.

The initial control-agent model will necessarily die, become unstable and non-viable as a basis (foot/leg/foundation) for control, upon identifying, expeirencing, and perceiving the unveiled underlying reality of the 4D block universe and its pre-existing frozen worldline of personal control.
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A version of Christianity that ends personal viable life and control upon enlightenment or unveiling of the truth about time and control power, is not actual Christianity.

“Christianity” that ends viable personal control would contradict the promise to Abraham to have many offspring.
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Enlightenment or regeneration or salvation through experience of the Holy Spirit applies to any human mind.

Higher-level, *esoteric* Spaghetti Monster Pastafarianism is by definition true and profound: ingesting the noodle given by the noodel-monster-god means experiencing the snake-shaped worldline frozen in the block universe with noncontrol and pre-set future control-thoughts.

Mormonism started with Datura (scopalamine) esotericism.

All religions have lower exoteric and then higher esoteric layers; childish then adult/mature/transformed levels.

Esoteric higher religion, religious mythology, describes the intense mystic altered state, which causes mental model transformation.

‘The exotericists’ is a funny phrase/term, a lofty word for clueless literalists/outsiders/ spiritual infants.

Euhemerism is an exoteric, non-experiential approach to the interpretation of mythology, in which mythological accounts are presumed to have originated from real historical events or personages.

Most interpretation of religion is based in the assumed ordinary state of consciousness; ordinary-state interpretation of religion fails to be based in mystic-state *experience*, so it is reductionist; lower layer of religion, only; held by “those on the outside”.
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Gnostic thought in its higher level is based in the intense mystic altered-state experience that results from ingesting sacred food and drink, same as all higher-level, esoteric religion.

Newage, Buddhism, and Christianity have lower, exoteric and higher, esoteric levels.

In the Bible, there are two levels of understanding: that of children, that of mature adult initiates (those on the inside, the elect).

The esoteric layer of religion is the Faustian pursuit of transformation of the mental model of time and control.
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Whenever you say ‘death’ and ‘sin’, ‘death’ esoterically means the mystic-state ego-death experience of no-free-will, not literal bodily death.
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Magic, gnosticism, and occluded knowledge revealed only to some:

{Magic} is metaphor for mystic-state experience that causes mental model change.

Give us a {sign} means give a metaphorical description of mystic experiencing and revelation of mental model of time and control.

Jesus is a magician casting out demons, but not by complex actions: Jesus simply commands “leave” and they leave; he doesn’t command them to provide a lover, for example; Jesus only commands the demon to leave permanently and not return.

Jesus’ magic and signs and miracles are good. It’s not a matter of “bible vs. occult/magic/esotericism” or “Our Biblical esotericism is valid, their esotericism is invalid”.

Those on the inside recognize magic as metaphor, non-literal double-meaning that serves to describe the mind-transforming, sacred meal-induced mystic state of consciousness.

If you remove magic from religion, that’s literalist incomprehension.

{magic} = {signs} = metaphorical description of the dimension of non-ordinary experience resulting from the sacred meal given by the god.

If you Believe, as one of the elect, you will do the magic Jesus did, and more, says the Jesus figure.

Cryptography = magic = metaphors; non-literal; describing the nonordinary state of experiencing.

Esotericism, nonliteralism, and magic are metaphors describing experiencing in the mystic loose cognitive state.

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Occluded knowledge revealed only to some:

Religious mythology is metaphorical description, not nonsense.

To declare religious mythology as “nonsense” is merely to demonstrate one’s lack of understanding, lack of recognition of how myth describes the experience of block-universe no-free-will and mental model transformation.

The New Testament includes occluded, hidden-then-revealed, veiled knowledge. Paul: At first, we see darkly, in an obscured way, as in a mirror made from polished metal.

Jesus in the New Testament advocates occult meaning, knowledge, symbolism: “A sign: I will be lifted up like Moses’ healing snake”, such as Mark 4:12.

The Gospel of John and of Mark: the New Testament says that there is insiders’ knowledge that is not revealed to “those who are on the outside”.

The Bible talks of selectively revealed knowledge that is held only by those on the inside, inside the gated garden containing the tree vs. snake and the sacred meal that is brought only to the elect, by the healing snake.

Lower, exoteric religionists are blinded to the passages which assert that truth is veiled and is only revealed to the Elect.
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Schizophrenia is loose cognitive association, verbal salad, jumping all over, a puppet mystic consciousness breaking in, and hearing voices including command voices.

The illusory and provisional ‘self’ is a freewill-premised king-like agent steering in a branching possibility tree.

The real, lasting self is no-free-will premised snake-shaped worldline frozen in the spacetime rock block universe.

The potent, numinous, overpowering Holy Spirit is the highest, most awesome, and most deeply mind-changing experience a person can have.

post 10725 has more than a few corrections and clarifications, gathered ‘magic’ statements.

2 scopes of explanation & explanandum

The Foo theory of Bar
The two scopes of explanation & explanandum in the Egodeath theory

Quadrant diagram with

2 explanation scopes on the left,
2 explanandum scopes on the right:

lower half is my 1985-1988 Phase 1 theory, of mental model transformation;
upper half is my 2001-2013 theory of religious mythology.


Lower left:
The psychedelics/ block-universe/ no-free-will theory of…

Lower right:
Transcendent Knowledge and mental model transformation about time and control across the two states of consciousness

Upper left:
The *analogy*/ psychedelics/ block-universe/ no-free-will theory of…

Upper right:
Religious mythology


A clear cut aspect is that if I include analogy on the left, I also include religious mythology on the right. This gives 2 scopes of saying the Foo theory of Bar:

The psychedelics/ block-universe/ no-free-will theory of Transcendent Knowledge and mental model transformation about time and control across the two states of consciousness

The analogy/ psychedelics/ block-universe/ no-free-will theory of religious mythology

A nice 2-part breakout is:

1)The psychedelics/ block-universe/ no-free-will theory of Transcendent Knowledge and mental model transformation about time and control across the two states of consciousness, and 2) the analogy theory of religious mythology

The Egodeath theory is not only a theory explaining religious mythology; it is a theory discovering and explaining the transformation of the mental model of time and control.

In 1988, the Egodeath theory was a correction/replacement of the Wilber/JTP theory of what Transcendent Knowledge is about.

In 2001, I added a correction/replacement of Wilber’s theory of interpreting the snake in _Up from Eden_ — religious mythology.


The Egodeath theory is a theory of how these key components (A-H) relate:

analogy
psychedelics
block universe
no-free-will

religious mythology
Transcendent Knowledge
cross-time personal control
transformation of the mental model of control and time

In total, the Egodeath theory is the ABCD theory of EFGH.

Regarding Cog Sci, the Egodeath theory is the BCD theory of FGH (omitting A, analogy and E, religious experiencing).

The CogSci and religious mythology portions of the Theory are distinct and mutually reinforcing.

If the vote results are certified a week in the future, Denver joins the block universe, experiencing numinous tremendous awe in the no-free-will state of consciousness, revealing the ordinarily hidden situation of profound dependence on the hidden, uncontrollable source of control-thoughts, with the rail of future control-thoughts frozen inalterably in spacetime, only waiting to be discovered.


https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/topics/4254
There are changes
Lyin’ ahead in every road
And there are new thoughts
Ready and waiting to explode
When tomorrow is today
The bells may toll for some
But nothing can change the shape of things to come

Transcendent Knowledge Podcast, episode 12 – perennialism, psychedelia and ego death theory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xve1Ic1x4-Q
Max Freakout with Kafei.

Topics:

Popular atheist thinking

atheist attitudes to psychedelic tripping

Terence Mckenna’s ideas

belief-based religion vs experience-based religion

the Neoplatonist philosopher Hypatia

her perennialist thinking and her gruesome death at the hands of Christians

modern Christian attitudes towards mystical and psychedelic experiences

the possibility of tripping without taking drugs

literal and non-literal interpretations of the crucifixion of Jesus

historicity and ahistoricity

interpretation of mystical writing

the writing of Vladimir Lossky

higher truth embedded in religious scripture

universality of mystical experience

the meaning of Christianity and being a christian

Posting about episode 12: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/10730

Commentary thread
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/conversations/messages/9817

One of the stories in the bible library is that Jesus was still alive when removed from the cross, as evidenced by water and blood *flowing* from his side.  The Swoon Theory of the resurrection [story].

Around 12:00-17:00 

Around 40:00-46:00, and 54:00, Max does a good job of identifying inconsistencies in the half-mystic interpretation of the Jesus figure, where Mr. Historical Jesus was a regular man who had archetypal mystic experiences and should be specially revered for that.

{resurrection} analogy/metaphor/description/mytheme


{resurrection} analogy/metaphor/description/mytheme, as description of cognitive dynamics in the loose cognitive state


In the ordinary state of consciousness, which is tight cognitive association binding, experiencing and the mental model of control and time are in the form of an autonomous control agent, like a sovereign king, steering among branching possibilities while moving into the future, as an open future that depends on the steering power wielded by the kingly agent.


In the altered state of consciousness, which is loose cognitive association binding, the mental model and experiencing is in the form of a puppet with no-free-will, with a pre-existing, unchanging future, in a frozen block universe with snake-shaped worldline of control thoughts pre-given, frozen into the spacetime block, with monopossibility.

The future is experienced as closed and pre-existing.

Control-thoughts are experienced as arising from outside the personal control agent, from a hidden, uncontrollable source.

The mental model of time and control and possibility changes, in the loose cognitive state, changing from one particular mental worldmodel to another, additional model.


Death of the king on the cross or tree, and resurrection into a new, permanent form of life, describes this mental model transformation that results from a series of loose cognitive binding sessions.

Cybernetic death of the control agent, is experienced as death, because the personal agent is above all, a control agent, and when control is experientially transformed, in experiencing and in the mental worldmodel, this is experienced as death of the main principle or identity of the agent: death of control, of the previous form of control, of the previous experience and mental model of control.

Resurrection is analogy describing the experience of a new mental worldmodel and experience of personal control agency and control-power.

The new life, resurrection, rebirth, transformation, completion of initiation, describe the experience that follows upon the full death or cessation of the old, previous, childish, non-initiated worldmodel of time and control and possibility.


A-thanatos, non-dying, eternal life: After dying the full ego death, fully gaining the new mental worldmodel of time and control and possibility, the mind no long undergoes that struggle, that futility of trying to use the freewill basis of control-power, and that failure of control-stability that results from pushing that control-model to its limits.

The mind no longer dies that drastic ego death, that control seizure, but is put on a new, stable foundation, based on a rock, that can endure when immersed in the loose cognitive state.

The mind is no longer subject to altered-state cybernetic death experience.

The initial full cybernetic control seizure, bringing realization of no-free-will and profound dependency on the external control-source, is like a maiden being abducted in religious mythology.

Subsequent, post-enlightenment loose cognitive experiences occur, but are routinized, like a woman in the wedding chamber *after* marriage.

The guest mentions reading the website but not the blog/discussion group.

The website is for the unworthy.

The insiders are 2019-2007 = 12 years more advanced, in this latest discussion group.

No one reads or knows about the discussion group, because no one is worthy of the latest 12 years of theory development.


The website is easy to survey and navigate.

Like the general ‘weblog’ format, the discussion group is an awkward, pinhole UI — it’s hard to survey.

This pattern is like how books are lately written: first post blog posts, with little structure among the posts, then collate them into a printed book (in this case, the website).

When evaluating the TK podcasts, factor-in the value of my commentary in response, such as in the present thread.

Resurrection is passive.

The person after a series of loose cognitive sessions is sacrificed as the old agent-life and resurrected into the new agent-life.

Everything is discovered to be passive.

Personal initiative is revealed to be passive in origin.

The person doesn’t take kingly initiative to ingest the sacred meal; the god forcibly calls the devotee to the god’s banquet of the sacrament.

The person doesn’t resurrect themselves; the person is resurrected by the external controller, per the Sam Harris atheists’ doctrine (when finally applied consistently) of no-free-will, into new life.

The external, trans-personal controller, the external control source per no-free-will, is the initiator of initiation, and the initiator of resurrection into transformed agency-life with a new mental worldmodel of time and control.

Atheists brag about logical adherence to no-free-will, rationalism, and psychedelics, as against religion (assumed to be exoteric literalist religion).

Atheists eventually realize that consistent no-free-will is profoundly radical noncontrol and profound dependency on the external world that sets personal control-thoughts fixed in time, and that religious mythology is intended to be interpreted as description of the realization of no-free-will, noncontrol, and profound dependency on an unknown puppetmaster in a position of power over one’s control-thoughts.

People debating “whether God exists” fail to appropriately define ‘God’.

‘God’ is the hidden uncontrollable control-source that is the source of personal control thoughts, upon which the person is profoundly dependent.

The mind in the loose cognitive state is brought to realize and perceive its utter helpless, female-like dependency on the superior control level, the hidden uncontrollable source of personal control thoughts, a threat revealed like a dragon hiding in a well spring in a cave, demanding sacrifice of one’s child self, sacrifice and repudiation of the premise of being able to use power that rests on a foundation of personal control agency as originator of control thoughts.

Belief in God means having conscious, ideally first-hand, understanding of the profound dependency of personal control power on an uncontrollable external source: the Creator, the Ground of Being, the Tao.

The mind is brought to put trust in that source, as the archetypal ‘woman’ is abducted and married by the God, as the Church is lifted up and married by Christ to himself.

Christ the Architect of 4-D cyberspacetime brings the devotee to sacrifice their childish freewill-based thinking; this is the sacrifice of the son of God, the sacrifice of the ram and lamb and lower self.

Sacrifice the lower self so that the higher self can be born; the lower self is sacrificed for the salvation and resurrection of the higher self.

The mytheme of {resurrection} in Christianity is equivalent to {cessation of rebirth} in Buddhism.

24:00 

The guest is like the unstable halfway point:

o The unstable half-transformed mental model of control,

o The unstable and inconsistent advocate of no-free-will and separately of psychedelics;

o The unstable fence-sitting *moderate* entheogen theory of religion (the half-consistent position of Ruck & McKenna and most all Pop Sike authors who Jan Irvin flipped against)

o The book Zig Zag Zen, from Tricycle Buddhist special issue on Psychedelics

Half-baked, contradiction-filled, less rational and sensible than posed, because missing adequate consideration of loosecog experiencing. An exception is Benny Shanon, who combines (inadequately) mythology and phenomenology.

Benny Shanon attempts to account for and inventory the various mythology and phenomenology of ayahuasca based on large quanitity of reports and experiences.

Shanon’s research is valuable because it is a building block for a bona fide Theory:

the “analogy/ psychedelics/ block universe/ no-free-will worldline” theory of religious mythology and how the mind transforms: loosecog, experiencing of control and time, perception of the source of control, across sessions of mental model transformation from one way of thinking to another, an additional, alternative way of perceiving time and control.


Religious mythology describes the plant? That’s vague, at best. Ruck; typical of Pop Sike History books.

The half-baked, moderate entheogen theory of religion is superficial, reductionist, ordinary-state-based, Possibilism-based, not experience-based, not based in systemic comparison of experiencing and thinking in the ordinary state and the loose cognitive state.

Religious mythology is about a different experience, perception, and understanding of personal *control* ability.

Religious mythology is not, firstly, about a plant, even if the plant is the flesh of the savior, body of the Holy Spirit.



49:00 —

Max is omitting “without whom Christianity wouldn’t have been created”:

“The historical Jesus” proposal is best defined as: a single identifiable individual, *without whom* Christianity wouldn’t have been created.

Mr. Historical Jesus was the founder of, or the foundation of, the origins of Christianity.

Mr. Historical Jesus was like the Historical Paul but more important and more the source of religion.

53:00

Jesus was the most powerful mystic.

Jesus was really killed.

Jesus didn’t really resurrect.

Jesus resurrecting was Mr. Jesus’ way of experiencing mystic experiencing after the Last Supper with mixed wine.

AND ALSO the life of Jesus was the ideal metaphor.

And Jesus was mocked as a king, and Jesus had a sign over his head; Pontius Pilate put on Jesus a sign:


The King of the Jews


A king drinks mixed wine at the last supper, feels dread but gives way to God’s will, is sacrificed in order to then be resurrected into new life with new, corrected, purified mind.


60:00

“After the session, life goes on” – that’s a brief way of putting it.


After the final required cleansing session in the water and fire, the person is completed, perfected, washed clean in God’s eyes, and has continued life with a new, additional, transformed mental model of time and control and possibility.

That model is immunized to seeing God and putting trust in the uncontrollable controller of your control-thoughts, normally veiled and hidden from perception, until ingesting the mixed wine sacred meal that brings prayer, dread, and being sacrificed for salvation and everlasting life,

eternal life, everlasting life, non-dying, a-thanatos: no more series of failed attempts at grasping the temporary experience and mental model, now corrected,

correction of thinking: scourged by flames in hell,


trespassing into heaven,

thrown out through the gate by not trusting in the mysterious puppetmaster of personal control-thoughts,


the {male} upon whom the {female} is dependent and overpowered, abducted and set right in the eyes of God-level perception.

God-level perception is the ability to see the serpent in the wellspring in the cave demanding as the price of the jewel that you are brought to pursue,

To take the snake-held jewel, given that the snake possesses the jewel sought,
sacrifice the freewill-premised foundation of personal control power,

instead perceiving the situation normally veiled,

Exorcise Sam Harris freewill-contaminated thinking that invokes the fury of being in God-level consciousness of the mind’s control-source.


The mind behaves differently after eating the Flesh of Christ

The mind experiences control and time and perception differently, after the last supper.

The mind in loosecog is taught to think differently about the foundation of control, readily reconfiguring via loose cognitive association binding.

All religions lack and have mystical experiencing.

The lower, beginners’, exoteric level of Christianity and Buddhism lacks mystic state experiencing.

The higher, initiates’, esoteric level of Christianity and Buddhism has mystic state experiencing, not recognized by exotericists.

It is not the case that some religions have mystical experiences and other religions lack them.

Transcendent Knowledge podcast, episode 13: perennialism, psychedelia, and ego death theory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX84TYfocrc

Different interpretations of Jesus’ crucifixion and resurrection.

Supernaturalist and non-supernaturalist interpretations of bible stories.

Psychotherapeutic use of psychedelic drugs to treat anxiety in cancer patients.

Theoria in ancient Christian mysticism.

The difference between historicist, non-historicist and mythicist interpretations of Jesus.

Atheism, theism and agnosticism.

Interpreting religion in light of the Ego Death Theory.

Metaphysical vs phenomenological treatment of religion.

Phenomenology of religious/mystical experience.

Perception of frozen time during mystical experience.

The effect of intense mystical experience on a person’s thinking.

Failure to recognise the significance of mystical experience by atheists.

Using analogy to illustrate the difference between exoteric and esoteric religion.

Per atheists, forget ‘religion’. Instead of religion, use cognitive metaprogramming in the loosecog state, studying personal control integrity across time.

Study no-free-will and control stability.

Pursue perceiving the frozen-time block universe worldline, per no-free-will, with unchangeable control-thoughts that will come into the mind uncontrollably, and experience personal control in light of no-free-will.

A control seizure, profound dependence on that which is the actual source of control thoughts.

What to call these dynamics? Religion, prayer, sacrifice, resurrection, salvation, eternal life? Or other labels, for the most shocking, profound, transcendent, numinous experiencing?

If ‘religion’ is taken to mean “whether God exists” and religion is literalist supernaturalism, then the terms from Religion cannot be used to describe cognitive dynamics and mental model transformation in the “analogical/ psychedelic/ block universe worldline/ no-free-will” state of consciousness.

Esoteric religious mythology is in fact positioned in contrast to exoteric literalist thinking, the two are contrasted in the New Testament by the Jesus figure.

Avoiding religion and studying personal control power instead, in the block universe no-free-will state of consciousness that results from the metaprogramming agent that loosens cognitive associations, leads to experiential dynamics and a mental model transformation that is described by religious mythology and religious language, when recognized.

The target dynamics must be understood, before religious figuration can be recognized as descriptions of those cognitive dynamics in the religious state of consciousness, which is the loose cognitive association state, which switches from Possibilism to the Eternalism mode of experiencing and mental worldmodel.