Egodeath Yahoo Group – Digest 120: 2012-12-01

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Group: egodeath Message: 6091 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 01/12/2012
Subject: Re: How to explore loss of control in the altered state
Group: egodeath Message: 6092 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 01/12/2012
Subject: Re: Lyrics: Electric Prunes: Get Me to the World on Time
Group: egodeath Message: 6093 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 01/12/2012
Subject: Re: How to explore loss of control in the altered state
Group: egodeath Message: 6094 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 01/12/2012
Subject: Bk: Crossan: Power of Parable: Fiction About Jesus
Group: egodeath Message: 6095 From: egodeath@yahoogroups.com Date: 01/12/2012
Subject: File – EgodeathGroupCharter.txt
Group: egodeath Message: 6096 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 01/12/2012
Subject: Re: Cog Sci, Phil of Mind, Cog Psych, Phenomenology, Neurosci
Group: egodeath Message: 6097 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 01/12/2012
Subject: Re: Transcendent violation of egoic will = sacrifice illusion
Group: egodeath Message: 6098 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 02/12/2012
Subject: Sacrif Isaac = kingdom, subst ram in bush, son Jesus on tree/stake
Group: egodeath Message: 6099 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 02/12/2012
Subject: Re: Bks by Algis Uzdavinys on Mystic Platonism, Ascent Mysticism
Group: egodeath Message: 6100 From: jdcasten Date: 02/12/2012
Subject: Re: I mention and cite your work in my new book…
Group: egodeath Message: 6101 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 03/12/2012
Subject: Ecstatic self-violation, willing end of king’s future, blood sacrifi
Group: egodeath Message: 6102 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 03/12/2012
Subject: Re: Ecstatic self-violation, willing end of king’s future, blood sac
Group: egodeath Message: 6103 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 03/12/2012
Subject: Re: Ecstatic self-violation, willing end of king’s future, blood sac
Group: egodeath Message: 6104 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 03/12/2012
Subject: Re: Break, and writing experiments
Group: egodeath Message: 6105 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 03/12/2012
Subject: Re: I mention and cite your work in my new book…
Group: egodeath Message: 6106 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 03/12/2012
Subject: Lyrics: The Spirit of Radio (Rush/Peart)
Group: egodeath Message: 6107 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 03/12/2012
Subject: Re: The Swoon/Shroud/India theory of Jesus’ death
Group: egodeath Message: 6108 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 05/12/2012
Subject: Re: The Revelation, Apocalypse, and Last Judgement
Group: egodeath Message: 6109 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 05/12/2012
Subject: Re: The Revelation, Apocalypse, and Last Judgement
Group: egodeath Message: 6110 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 05/12/2012
Subject: Re: The Revelation, Apocalypse, and Last Judgement
Group: egodeath Message: 6111 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 05/12/2012
Subject: Re: Break, and writing experiments
Group: egodeath Message: 6112 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 07/12/2012
Subject: Re: Lyrics: Electric Prunes: Get Me to the World on Time
Group: egodeath Message: 6113 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 07/12/2012
Subject: Self-control seizure: divine organ of climax ability & passionate de
Group: egodeath Message: 6114 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 07/12/2012
Subject: Re: Self-control seizure: divine organ of climax ability & passionat
Group: egodeath Message: 6115 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 07/12/2012
Subject: Re: Self-control seizure: divine organ of climax ability & passionat
Group: egodeath Message: 6116 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Stabilizing control by mental-only non-metaphor understanding
Group: egodeath Message: 6117 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Riding atop a horse, donkey, bull, ox
Group: egodeath Message: 6118 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Re: *Scientific* theory explaining altered-state revelation
Group: egodeath Message: 6119 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Re: Stabilizing control by mental-only non-metaphor understanding
Group: egodeath Message: 6120 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Re: *Scientific* theory explaining altered-state revelation
Group: egodeath Message: 6121 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Re: Riding atop a horse, donkey, bull, ox
Group: egodeath Message: 6122 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Re: Self-control seizure: divine organ of climax ability & passionat
Group: egodeath Message: 6123 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Re: Self-control seizure: divine organ of climax ability & passionat
Group: egodeath Message: 6124 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Re: Riding atop a horse, donkey, bull, ox
Group: egodeath Message: 6125 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Re: Lyrics: The Spirit of Radio (Rush/Peart)
Group: egodeath Message: 6126 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Re: Lyrics: The Spirit of Radio (Rush/Peart)
Group: egodeath Message: 6127 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Re: Riding atop a horse, donkey, bull, ox
Group: egodeath Message: 6128 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Impotent, flaccid Transpersonal Theory
Group: egodeath Message: 6129 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 10/12/2012
Subject: Re: *Scientific* theory explaining altered-state revelation
Group: egodeath Message: 6130 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 10/12/2012
Subject: Re: *Scientific* theory explaining altered-state revelation
Group: egodeath Message: 6131 From: jdcasten Date: 10/12/2012
Subject: Re: I mention and cite your work in my new book…
Group: egodeath Message: 6132 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 10/12/2012
Subject: Re: *Scientific* theory explaining altered-state revelation
Group: egodeath Message: 6133 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 10/12/2012
Subject: Re: Ecstatic self-violation, willing end of king’s future, blood sac
Group: egodeath Message: 6134 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 10/12/2012
Subject: Re: Ecstatic self-violation, willing end of king’s future, blood sac
Group: egodeath Message: 6135 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 10/12/2012
Subject: Re: Ecstatic self-violation, willing end of king’s future, blood sac
Group: egodeath Message: 6136 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 10/12/2012
Subject: Re: Sacrif Isaac = kingdom, subst ram in bush, son Jesus on tree/st
Group: egodeath Message: 6137 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 10/12/2012
Subject: Re: Riding atop a horse, donkey, bull, ox
Group: egodeath Message: 6138 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 10/12/2012
Subject: Re: Sacrif Isaac = kingdom, subst ram in bush, son Jesus on tree/st
Group: egodeath Message: 6139 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 10/12/2012
Subject: Re: Sacrif Isaac = kingdom, subst ram in bush, son Jesus on tree/st
Group: egodeath Message: 6140 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 11/12/2012
Subject: Re: Sacrif Isaac = kingdom, subst ram in bush, son Jesus on tree/st



Group: egodeath Message: 6091 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 01/12/2012
Subject: Re: How to explore loss of control in the altered state
Lyrics relevant to the above posting.

Cheap Trick’s Dream Police album is Power Pop Sike. The dream police = the trip police — they are in heaven, the otherworld, the intense altered state.

Cheap Trick
Way of the World

It’s the way of the world
Remember
You were at work and then Friday at 5
I remember
Felt like a pawn was I dead or alive
I remember
Thought no one could hear me I was goin insane
I remember
It was a real fine line
Now you changed my life around

I’ve been running
I’ve been hiding
It’s the way of the world
You say it’s over
But the world keeps turning round


Diary of a Madman
Bob Daisley
excerpts

Watch me die another day
Hopeless situation
Sanity now it’s beyond me
There’s no choice

Diary of a madman
Entries of confusion
Dear diary I’m here to stay

A sickened mind and spirit
The mirror tells me lies
Could I mistake myself for someone
Who lives behind my eyes

Will he escape my soul
Or will he live in me
Is he trying to get out or trying to enter me

Can I ask a question
To help me save me from myself
Enemies fill up the pages
Are they me


Help!
John Lennon
excerpts

I never needed anybody’s help in any way
But now these days are gone and I’m not so self assured
Now I find I’ve changed my mind, and opened up the doors

Help me if you can
And I do appreciate you being round
Help me get my feet back on the ground
Won’t you please, please help me

And now my life has changed in oh so many ways
My independence seems to vanish in the haze
But every now and then I feel so insecure
Now I know I need you like I’ve never done before

Help
I need somebody
Not just anybody


Shock Wave
Black Sabbath
excerpts

There’s no reason
For you to run
You can’t escape the fate
Of the chosen one

Black moon rising
In a blood-red sky
It’s time to realize
That you’re gonna die

Floating in time you cheat this death’s master
You’re on your own
Going through

When the mist has taken over your mind
And you think you’re on your own
Don’t believe you are the only one here
Look around – you’re not alone

Feel the forces of another world
Ghostly shadows fill your mind
Evil power hanging over you
As you freeze your life in time
Look behind you

Somebody’s calling
Crawling with fear
You tell yourself you’re dreaming
You know that this shouldn’t happen to you
You tell yourself that it just can’t be true
But there is nothing you can do

Ghostly shadows from the other world
Evil forces in your mind
Trapped between the walls of life and death
Frozen in the lands of time
Look behind you

You’re at the end of the line
Group: egodeath Message: 6092 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 01/12/2012
Subject: Re: Lyrics: Electric Prunes: Get Me to the World on Time
In lyrics in general, my policy is to eliminate apostrophes, such as spelling out goin’ as going, because that pronunciation is an unneeded, irrelevant distraction. The purpose of transcribing is to convey words, not to indicate the pronunciation. I instead indicate double-pronunciation, or where the sung lyrics interestingly contradict the printed lyrics.
Group: egodeath Message: 6093 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 01/12/2012
Subject: Re: How to explore loss of control in the altered state
This song is on the radio now. It is a love song about the control vortex, the state of being headed for cybernetic self-control disaster. Fresh commentary here.

Lyrics: Electric Prunes: Get Me to the World on Time
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath/message/4203
Artist: The Electric Prunes
Song: Get Me to the World on Time
Release date: March 1967
Reached #27 on the U.S. pop charts
Transcribed accurately by Michael Hoffman (Egodeath.com) for the first time on the Web, Sep. 15, 2005
excerpts:

Here I go, higher, higher
You gotta get me to the world on time

The minute you [control vortex] walk in the room [loosecog realm]
I break into a sweat
My hands begin to shake so bad
Can’t light my cigarette

Then you start walking toward me
And my glue comes all undone <== looose cognition
If I could get my feet to move
I’d turn around and run

My pulse is beating faster
And I’m heading for disaster <==
Here I go, higher, higher

One kiss from you
And my whole body starts acting strange
You shake up all my hormones
You put me through a change

This chemical reaction
Isn’t easy to define
You drive me to distraction
You disturb my peace of mind

You got me spinning like a top now <== whirlwind elevator
And I don’t know how to stop now

Is this what love’s all about [eros drive toward Atman per Wilber]
Lately I feel so wigged-out
Wild sensations
Sweet frustrations <== attraction of control self-frustration
You get me going
And there’s no slowing me down

Whoa here I go, oh!
Group: egodeath Message: 6094 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 01/12/2012
Subject: Bk: Crossan: Power of Parable: Fiction About Jesus
The Power of Parable: How Fiction by Jesus Became Fiction about Jesus
John Dominic Crossan
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0061875694
March 2012
“Did Jesus ever exist as a historical figure in time and place? Is he like Julius Caesar–a factual figure, but enveloped in clouds of parable? Or is he like the Good Samaritan–an entirely fictional character of Christianity’s parabolic imagination? My answer is that Jesus did exist as a historical figure.”

This book — like my deciphering of the Bible as mystic-state metaphor and meaning-flipping — further strengthens the evidence that Jesus is purely fictional and is to be analyzed as such, in a metaphor-deciphering, riddle-solving mode, as I have provided the full solution for in terms of noncontrol/nofreewill/loosecog.

His introduction mentions food, “sharing a meal”, the Eucharist. He fails to comprehend the allusion to entheogens, so he is condemned to Hell. He fails to understand the riddle, so he is punished with death. If you don’t understand the meaning of The Parable — if you don’t listen with the right riddling mindset to recognize that Jesus meant Michael Hoffman’s Egodeath theory of interpretation — you are not among the Elect who were given to Jesus from before the beginning of time, and are therefore condemned to perdition. You didn’t get the joke, so you are cast into Hell.

He cites Wikipedia. He should cite my website, such as my main article.

— Michael Hoffman, December 1, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 6095 From: egodeath@yahoogroups.com Date: 01/12/2012
Subject: File – EgodeathGroupCharter.txt
The Egodeath Yahoo group is a Weblog sent out by Michael Hoffman,
covering the cybernetic theory of ego death and ego transcendence,
including:

o Block-universe determinism/Fatedness, the closed
and preexisting future, tenseless time, free will as illusory, the
holographic universe, and predestination and Reformed theology.

o Cognitive science, mental construct processing, mental models,
ontological idealism, contemporary metaphysics of the continuant
self, cybernetic self-control, personal control agency, moral agency,
and self-government.

o Zen satori, short-path enlightenment, and Alan Watts;
transpersonal psychology, Ken Wilber, and integral theory.

o Entheogens and psychedelic drugs, mystery religions, mythic
metaphor and allegorical encoding, the mystic altered state, mystic
and religious experiencing, visionary states, religious rapture, and
Acid Rock mysticism.

o Loss of control, self-control seizure, cognitive instability, and
psychosis and schizophrenia.


— Michael Hoffman
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath
http://www.egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 6096 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 01/12/2012
Subject: Re: Cog Sci, Phil of Mind, Cog Psych, Phenomenology, Neurosci
> The Ego Tunnel: The Science of the Mind and the Myth of the Self
> Thomas Metzinger
> 2009
> http://amazon.com/o/asin/0465045677
> Entheogen chapter at the end

Metzinger advocates that we begin developing ideas about no free will, no self, no time, and entheogens or psychedelics, per the section “A New Kind of Ethics”, pages 223-230:

Keywords: psychedelic, psilocybin, LSD, Huxley, Pahnke, Griffiths, psychotic reaction, panic, psychedelic sacraments, 2C-B, 2C-T-7, religious ecstasy, classic hallucinogens, altered states, drug policy.

I have already *finished*, with full basic coverage of Egodeath 101, developing an *integrated* set of ideas that *emphasizes* and exclusively focuses on these ideas, without the clutter of neuroscience and quantum physics. I cover peripheral topics such as ahistoricity of Jesus and Paul, and the forged back-dated nature of *all* the New Testament and Church Father writings, but I keep the focus centered on noncontrol/nofreewill/loosecog.

My coverage of personal non-control includes explaining exactly the content of the threat of loss of control, or wrestling with and probing the limits of our mental control ability.
My coverage of no-free-will includes the 4D pre-set frozen-time version of “determinism”.
My coverage of loose cognition (the intense mystic altered state describes the specifics of loosecog dynamics including mental model transformation, without getting distracted by neurochemistry, which can be *entirely* bracketed-off from the core Theory.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com, December 1, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 6097 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 01/12/2012
Subject: Re: Transcendent violation of egoic will = sacrifice illusion
This is a cleaned-up version of my voice-dictated posting, with substantial material added December 1, 2012.

I made a *great* revolutionary hour and a half voice recording today (November 28, 2012) and open letter to send to neuroscientists such as Metzinger, telling them to drop everything and first study and cite the ego death theory, if they want to advance the field by 50 years overnight and keep up with the other cognitive scientists.

Cognitive Scientists are already learning my theory about the extreme ultimate no-free-will, the extreme ultimate “no egoic personal control” view, the extreme ultimate timelessness version of “determinism” where the future already exists (an entirely different approach than causal-chain determinism acting sequentially in time), and the extreme concept of illusory possibilities that are not fated to be possible.

How do we say Yes to the only path that is truly possible: the one that is fated?

And how do we trust and put full trust in controller X, and fully understand that we have no power to steer away from and avoid our fate, no way to avoid the control thoughts and intention that is coming from controller X into the mind next? When we are bothered by this idea, we are also interested in and fascinated and fixated and caught up in this tree of ideas; we are compelled and drawn in to manipulating and exploring the ramifications of the circular dynamics of personal control-power.

If my future thoughts are pre-existing and I cannot avoid them nor can I control their arising, nor avoid and steer away from my possibly harmful near-future thoughts, then my control-power is doomed and I am potentially headed for disaster, unavoidable harm lying straight ahead on the crazy rail and I’m helpless and powerless to steer away from that possible future, which my thinking is now compelled to construct. Suppose I have a vivid idea — now picture a vivid idea of some self-thwarting, harmful, anti-desirable action.

Let us test this idea, can we steer away from it? While in the mystic psychotic genius state, the mind desires — to gain security and enlightenment and control-power — the mind desires to construct a bad intention as a test case, and then run an experiment with oneself as the test subject, to test to see if we have the power to steer away from it.


A *strength* is that my super-revolutionary theory is not published by any printed press or journal or peer-reviewed environment or conference, but is the work of an independent researcher publishing in hypertext on the World-Wide Web. Publishing such an important Theory in the form of an independent web page represents a revolution in publishing and Communication — if Thomas Metzinger is serious about the Internet changing our consciousness, then this is a strength and a revolution that such a massively important breakthrough theory is published on the World-Wide Web, not through old media, not printed on dead trees.


Writers need to base their thinking around my ego death Theory, because this accomplishes already what they are calling for better than they can, more strongly.

Cybernetics: Cognitive scientists advocate the nullity of personal control agency — I’ve already finished explaining that. I cover absolute nullity of egoic control agency more so than the cognitive science books.

Heimarmene: Cognitive scientists advocate no-free-will — I am already years ahead of them. My model of the single preset future and block universe goes far beyond conventional determinism which is causal chain determinism.

Dissociation: Cognitive scientists slightly advocate entheogens — but this should be their #1 hue and cry. They should be going on strike until drug laws (a recent, illegitimate, fraudulent creation) are thrown out. I’ve already finished explaining that, including loose cognition, and mental model transformation about self, time and control. I have already finished the entheogen theorizing going beyond what the cognitive scientists are starting to demand (The Ego Tunnel, Thomas Metzinger, pages 223-230).

Metaphor: Hofstadter

Surfaces and Essences: Analogy as the Fuel and Fire of Thinking
Douglas Hofstadter, Emmanuel Sander
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0465018475
April 2013
“Analogies are the building blocks of thought. A theory about the way the mind works. From the simplest forms (a single word, category, or phrase) to infinitely complex constructions (an idiom, proverb, or algorithm), they show how analogies are the tools our brains use to interpret and master daily life. Language, the mind, and intelligence.”

The Power of Parable: How Fiction by Jesus Became Fiction about Jesus
John Dominic Crossan
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0061875694
March 2012

I previously posted about other books approaching the Bible as fiction and comic fiction and riddling, which is the correct approach, when comic fiction is applied to Cybernetics/Heimarmene/Dissociation per the Egodeath theory.

The Unfolding Self: Varieties of Transformative Experience / Opening to Inner Light: The Transformation of Human Nature and Consciousness
Ralph Metzner
http://amazon.com/o/asin/098183180X
April 1986; 1998; 2010
Based on his 1980 article for Journal of Transpersonal Psychology, “Ten Classical Metaphors of Self-Transformation”.
Reviewer Michael Hoffman writes:
“Metaphors describing dissociative-state experiencing: This book is an organized inventory of the various metaphors that have been used to describe the phenomena encountered in the mystic dissociative state. Dissociative psychoactives are mentioned in an integrated manner throughout the book. This is a revised edition of Opening to Inner Light: The Transformation of Human Nature and Consciousness. Benny Shanon’s book Antipodes of the Mind is a good companion volume similarly explaining dissociative-state cognitive phenomenology as the origin of mythic metaphor.”

Metzner notes that the book doesn’t cover what I consider as meme propagation and collective state-flipping per the arrival of the Kingdom of God with all the Elect united in spacetime by the Cybernetics/Heimarmene/Entheogen revelation.

Metzner notes that the book “does not delineate linear developmental models showing sequential stages of evolution. This is not to say that development does not proceed in stages — only that agreement on mapping these stages seems quite elusive. Much of the literature on evolutionary stages seems to me to be overly abstract, highly subjective and sometimes indicative of a kind of premature conceptual crystallization. Subtle judgments of spiritual superiority [like Ken Wilber’s error in treating “mythic consciousness” -mh] seem to slip too easily into discussions of levels and stages.”

Well said, making points that I posted the other day on my frustration at Dan Merkur and Zaehner, writers of books about mysticism theory, and writers about the evolutionary development of early, middle, and late Greek religion and philosophy, with their stupid overconfident stilted and stuffy self-assured categories and schemes when they understand jack squat about the content and meaning of the ideas and mythemes they *presume* to — with great fanfare — emphasize and rely on.

The result is pseudo-knowledge, misleading, leading away from understanding — substitute for comprehension. *First* you must understand mythic metaphors as I have solved, and *then* you can do the trivia of sorting those into eras with different emphases. As it stands, we have the abominable faux knowledge that Greek “religion” gave way to Greek “philosophy”, while totally misunderstanding and misrepresenting both.

See Myers’ book Gnostic Visions (or my work) for some sanity on that matter: Greek religion and philosophy were both drenched totally in the entheogen-induced loosecog state; it was entheogenic myth, and, entheogenic philosophy, not the God-forsaken ordinary-state modern-era type of analytic philosophy. I hold that now and before the modern era, the use of entheogens to produce a fully transformed mental model always has required multiple sessions of loose cognition.

Through pressing one’s mind against the loosecog realm repeatedly, the mind is impressed and sculpted in compliance with the altered state observations of mental dynamics regarding self, time, and control, together with learning the traditional metaphors and analogies that express the loosecog dynamics, such as ‘king’, ‘death’, ‘snake’, ‘tree’, and ‘sacred food and drink’.

Gnostic Visions: Uncovering the Greatest Secret of the Ancient World
Luke A. Myers
http://amazon.com/o/asin/1462005462
April 2011
Entheogens including Syrian rue + acacia, throughout Western religion and spiritual philosophy.


Cognitive scientists are on a trajectory: I am pulling them in like a tractor beam. The ego death Theory is inevitably their destination and I am already standing there right in the middle on top of that peak. I already reached where they are headed in 1988, and then in 2001 I extended that to cover myth, religion, and religious experience to fully explain religious myth, a subject which is barely on the radar of cognitive scientists, despite Hofstadter’s focus on analogies. They have a crude model, and a call to begin work on self/nofreewill/psychedelics/analogies, and I have a finished model.

My voice recording tonight contains new, important, profound connections about sacrifice as desirable demonstration of violating, of willing against itself, of transcendently violating control of your will, playing with your inability to avoid possible near-future thoughts intentions of self-harm in order to secure and increase personal control, by gaining understanding of the dynamics of personal mental control. This inability, a kind of cybernetic blind spot and vulnerability built into our self-control system, is profound.

Our doorway to transcendence is our control-vulnerability, the glorious malfunction and limitation we have, which brings the idea of mythic king Jesus saying “I hesitate to drink this cup of Ayahuasca and die ego death, but not my will, Controller X, but yours be done” giving himself over to transcendently violate his own will to satisfy and fulfill our comprehension of how Controller X can be trusted as merciful and harmless to us although Controller X can force us to will to violate our own will, such as could be demonstrated through a kind of self- harm like my ritually scrambling my dorm room in violation of my egoic will, possessed by Dionysus, where my mind was ecstatically unified with the mind of Dionysus.

Judas’ affirmation is our own affirmation of “send King Ego to the cross and disprove his illusory power, in order to know truth and have full, satisfactory demonstration that his power is nullified by pre-set fatedness”.

Instead of taking the physical action of physically ritually scrambling my dorm room as a way of firmly demonstrating the unreality of egoic control constraints or chains, I could’ve merely mentally understood the idea of Jesus willing to be harmed and have his will repudiated. No other DEMONSTRATION of transcendent self-violating of the personal will is needed, only the mental comprehension of the myth of Isaac’s willing sacrifice, or the Eleusinian piglets’ willing sacrifice, or Jesus’ willful affirmation that he should be sacrificed.

When it comes to satisfactory complete forcing of mental model transformation, the idea is the thing. Even if we do sacrificially harm ourselves to drive home and prove the point of our ability to transcend our egoic self-constraints, that physical action can fail to transform the mental model of self, time, and control; we end up with mere uncomprehending magical sacrifices that have to be repeated.

God gave us his son Jesus as an idea, the idea of demonstratively sacrificing our own youthful egoic self-concept, “childish things, thought like a child”, a totally and completely satisfactory sacrifice, as an idea, once and for all, for this very purpose of violating and cancelling our egoic will, to understand God’s power over our control thinking and to fully explore this idea of self will violation which we desire to fully explore. Total absolute forceful sacrifice of our child-thinking requires an idea, comprehension — not a harmful action as proof.

When we arrive at Peter’s gate in the heavens, our completeness of mental model transformation is measured and assessed not by what physical action we have done to disprove and repudiate egoic-control thinking, but rather, we judge ourselves effectively by asking: do you comprehend the meaning of the idea or figure of the king willingly sacrificed on the cross, to bring in the hidden kingdom of God?

We must intend to violate our intention, though it is not clear how to gain and achieve full satisfaction, is a matter of meaning and intending to violate intention it is not a matter of doing some physical magic action or harm or destruction to destroy the ego illusion requires what type of action, intend that the mystic king intend to violate his will and give himself to wake you deviation fastened to space time the point is not suffering or pain the point is to destroy and cancel out and support and trip up and wreck or dominate absolutely the ego sense of control over intending.

I need and want to break my illusion of having control over what I intend. How can I do this? Compare breaking in a cadet or breaking in a horse to establish dominance of control and subservience of control. The egoic power of control must be proven to be merely an illusion or secondary type of control. How do we accomplish this? What do we think, to prove we have transcended the egoic control delusion? What must we think, to prove that our control of our will is merely secondary control?

During the course of making the voice recording, on-the-fly, I proved how powerful the interpretive key is, using the Egodeath theory to decipher myth, by on-the-spot figuring out profound, fundamental myths that are the most important mythemes in the Bible: the main line of connection between Abraham’s sacrifice of his son Isaac and God’s sacrifice of his son Jesus.

I deepened connections about the ram of Abraham and Isaac, which is a kind of lamb sacrifice analogous to God providing his son as a sacrifice that we may come to comprehend the potential of our mental control. God provided the ram (a kind of lamb) which is a willful creature with its powerful horns caught in the (cybernetic possibility branching) bush equivalent to God providing his mythic son who willingly is fastened to the tree or pole or cross which represents the egoic agent physically fastened to frozen unchanging spacetime and the illusory cybernetic possibility branching tree

They say we scientists must provide a replacement for no free will , and the no-Jesus scholars say we must give a way for Christianity to go on

The New Testament is precisely what the cognitive scientists are calling for: a set of guidelines meant for people who have drunk the cup of Ayahuasca (Syrian rue and acacia-bark) and realize no-free-will and have ritually violated their egoic will, by playing with the source of our control thoughts to gain self-knowledge and Know Thyself.

I am the modern theorist who first discovered that the New Testament *is* the “new system of morality” for people who have seen through the illusion of free will, the illusion of autonomous authorship of our thinking, and the illusion of the open future (based on the 4D, no meta-change, altered-state perspective, *not* the ordinary-state speculation based on the hypothesis of sequential causal-chain determinism).

We are simply returning to original Christianity and Greco-Roman thoughts about violating the free will illusion through the sacrifice idea, exposing the illusion of personal control agency, the illusion of autonomous self authoring, the illusion of initiating our actions, and the illusion of authoring our future. All together at once, we reveal as an illusion time, self, free will, and alternate possibilities. There is only one possibility: the fated pre-existing permanently existing future. There is no other true possibility, only virtual possibilities.

All in the same sense, time is an illusion; self is an illusion; free will is an illusion; and alternate possibilities are an illusion. No free will, no self, no time, no possibilities, only the one fated path.


Iron Maiden
Somewhere in Time
1986

Take my hand
I’ll take you to the other side
To see the truth:
The path for you is decided


I invite and urge Cognitive Neuroscientists to play with the self violation of the will to demonstrate and comprehend the ramifications of personal non-control, the illusory nature of the controller self, and our inability to control our thoughts across time. In today’s voice recording, I warned Cognitive Neuroscientists of the potential to harm oneself by playing with thoughts about harming and violating one’s own will.

That is the purpose of this figure of Jesus: God provides the ram or his king has a willing demonstration of violating the egoic personal will, in order to know and enter fully the awareness of the kingdom of God. Entering the secret kingdom of God means in the intense altered state of loose cognition, gaining awareness of the transcendent power of control of thoughts, rather than egoic illusory control power.

The most attractive thing for power and military power is playing with our inability to prevent and steer away from our near future thoughts of self violation. This kind of dangerous and profound demonstration is the way to forcefully, completely, thoroughly, and systematically transform the mind’s mental model of time, self, and control.

This mental exercise of violating the personal will is the way to fully understand no free will, fully understand the illusion of self as control agent that initiates thoughts, fully understand the illusory aspect of time and change, and fully understand the illusion of possibilities and the open future. This is the most profound thought-experiment in Cognitive Science, and produces understanding of the figure of the king willingly repudiated, fastened to the tree, cross, or branchless pole (“stake”).

We sacrifice our delusion of autonomous kingship creating our future by steering among open possibility-paths, to purchase enlightenment and comprehension of the kingdom of God: not our will be done, but the will of controller X be done.

To fully understand no-free-will and the emptiness of the self-symbol, we must mentally violate and repudiate the illusion of the power of the personal egoic top-level controller, therefore meditate on the mythic meaning of the king willingly sacrificed on the cross as a cybernetic possibility-branching tree.

Thus I have demonstrated that to advance Cognitive Science by 50 years overnight, you must study and cite my name and the Egodeath theory, which is already finished at what you Science writers are advocating that we begin doing: developing ideas about no free will, no self, no time, and entheogens — psychedelics, per Thomas Metzinger in the section “A New Kind of Ethics”, pages 223-230, keywords: psychedelic, psilocybin, LSD, Huxley, Pahnke, Griffiths, psychotic reaction, panic, psychedelic sacraments, 2C-B, 2C-T-7, religious ecstasy, classic hallucinogens, altered states, drug policy.

I would mention 4HO-DiPT, which produces classic psychedelic effects with an ergonomic, 1-hour duration.

No-self, no-free-will ethics is not actually “new” per Metzinger’s subheading; antiquity and the New Testament believe no-free-will and provide no-free-will ethics, per my original research incorporating Luther H. Martin’s book Hellenistic Religion, which focuses on heimarmene.

We scientists, when we reveal no-free-will to society, must provide guidance and a replacement system for society. We scientists remove the illusion of free will. This is the consciousness revolution, which is the same revolution as the New Testament in 325 and 1525, a social and metaphysical alternative to Caesar’s Empire or that of worldly popes and “renaissance” pagan kings.

A forged new testament is perhaps, per Bart Ehrman’s 2013 book “Forgery and Counterforgery”, better than no new testament and it was good enough for the early proto-Christians it should be good enough for today’s hapless Christians finally brought to enlightenment instead of literalism and the historical Jesus and Paul.

Forgery and Counterforgery: The Use of Literary Deceit in Early Christian Polemics
Bart D. Ehrman
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0199928037
December 2012

These are most of the ideas that are in my hour and a half voice recording today.

— Michael Hoffman, November 28/29, 2012, with expansions December 1, 2012.
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6098 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 02/12/2012
Subject: Sacrif Isaac = kingdom, subst ram in bush, son Jesus on tree/stake
The ram of Abraham and Isaac is a kind of lamb sacrifice analogous to God providing his son as a sacrifice that we may come to comprehend the potential of our mental control. Abraham killing his son: realize this isn’t just any son; this son represents the future of all believers in the Egodeath theory — that is, the puppets (“the kingdom of Israel”) who learn that they are controlled by God.

In using the cybernetic ram as the sacrifice as substitute for Isaac (= entirety of Israel), the ram is equated with Israel; that is, just as God provides the ram as the willing sacrifice, God could just as well have made all people in the kingdom of Israel will their own sacrifice (willingly ending their own viable future) in demonstration of their puppethood under God’s power. The ram not only is functionally equivalent to the boy Isaac; the ram is functionally equivalent to every person in God’s kingdom of Israel, because all of Israel proceeds from the loins of Isaac.

God provided the ram (a kind of lamb) which is a willful creature with its powerful horns caught in the (cybernetic possibility branching) bush equivalent to God providing his mythic son who willingly is fastened to the tree or pole or cross which represents the egoic agent physically fastened to frozen unchanging spacetime and the illusory cybernetic possibility branching tree.

An analogy: The God of the people of the kingdom of Israel made Abraham will to sacrifice Abraham’s entire future lineage (the entire future kingdom of Israel!), in the form of sacrificing his only son in the line of Israel.

When the knife proved to come down willing to sacrifice in one blow God’s entire future kingdom of people (puppets) who depended on Isaac living and procreating, God chose to preserve his entire kingdom of people, by preserving Isaac and by instead providing a willful ram caught in a cybernetic possibility-branching bush, providing a substitute sacrifice that would thus enable God to have a future people to know him and have communion with him. The prophets of Israel understand all this. This is the main meaning and theme of the Old Testament.


Does logical consistency dictate and compel us to enter control chaos in the intense mystic altered state? Why was Jesus hesitant to drink the cup of Ayahuasca and die as a cybernetic control-agent? Why do we fear loss of control when ingesting the entheogen that God leads us to and makes us eat and drink? Is it rational for us to fear the loss of control? What exactly, specifically, does the enlightened holy spirit of thinking teach the mind; what specifically is the train of thinking?

How can the mind possibly hang onto this strange kind of thinking from the peak state, these crazy, too brilliant, holy, transcendent ideas, which egoic tight-binding thinking would never think of? These are not rare or strange ideas: these are actually the standard ideas that occur to the mind when the biased ruts of egoic thinking are suspended and disengaged. This is transcendent control-thinking now speaking, in the extremely rational state of reasoning in which the mind’s puppethood is revealed and the potential of the mind to think *anything* vividly is revealed.

When you are made able to think *anything*, to intend anything vividly, when your thinking becomes *that* flexible and completely disinhibited, the problem is, when you are removed from your personality restraint chains, and you are given the mind of God — entering the God mode of control over your mind, you find that you can make your mind intend and visualize anything and you have no control over this thinking, which God forces you to do and which you are made to want to do in order to know coherent truth and rationality about personal control agency and access the full potential of the mind.

God wants you to think this, and you want to think about this, to know and experience the full dynamics of how personal mental control works. The mind recoils from this type of reasoning and exploration, and the mind is threatened by this so drawn into this thinking to map out the danger to avoid the danger. The mind sometimes hides its head to avoid seeing the face of God and dying, but, per Ken Wilber, the mind is not satisfied until it works through this mode of reasoning about the foundation and source of personal control and non-rational bias in favor of choosing life while also knowing truth and accessing the mind’s full potential.

I am able to think control-chaos, and I don’t, because (non-rationally) and as long as God the puppetmaster chooses to not make me enter control chaos. Per the sermon “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God”, we are taught in the super-rational transcendent Pure Reason state, that God *could* make the mind enter control-chaos, smiting and crushing and destroying his puppets.


The Twilight Zone
Neil Peart
excerpts

Beneath his hat the strangeness lies
Take it off, he’s got three eyes
Truth is false and logic lost
Now the fourth dimension is crossed
Beyond this world strange things are known
See what your fate might have in store
Enter this world of imagination
You wake up lost in an empty town
Look up to see a giant boy
You’ve just become his brand new toy
And no escape, no place to hide
Here where time and space collide


How to demonstrate to your puppets that you are in total control of their thinking, without destroying all your puppets, without making all your dolls decide to tear off their own heads and end their viable future. Do you want to be the ruler over a thriving coherent society filled with coherent viable dolls, or over a pile of self-destroyed dolls? If you want to have communion with the people of your kingdom that you absolutely control, you must have a way of demonstrating your absolute power over the minds of your people, in such a way that you don’t harm and terminate your people.

In the peak window of the intense mystic altered state, when we become enlightened about the chaotic, non-rational basis of personal control, we choose between the two paths:

o Path 1: logical control-chaos, non-viable future, in transcendent recognition of our puppethood and the logical baselessness of personal control. Controller X forcefully demonstrates the ability to make your mind take this path. You logically have to understand this point of view, to know the truth about personal control theory.

o Path 2: act viable and stable, without any logical basis. Miraculous resurrection, while in the transcendent mental state where rules of egoic bias don’t apply and carry no weight. Continue thriving and multiplying while you teach other people about transcendent control rationality and the logical baselessness of stable personal controllership.

Why would a transcendently rational person even consider control-chaos, or even think about it? There is strong confirmation that mystics are pulled toward this thought as the dead center of transcendent thinking. It is not at all insane or irrational to think about “control chaos”. What we fear in fearing acid, the numinous sacred sacrament that poisonously kills our control thinking, is precisely control chaos.

If you are not thinking about control chaos as a problem involving justification of your continued pretended controllership existence, you are failing to see and engage with the main problem at hand. All other discussion is avoidance and beating around the bush. In the name of logical coherence and truth and recognition of the powerlessness of personal control in relation to the uncontrollable transcendent source of thought.

From the mystic’s point of view in the peak window of the psychotomimetic state of un-chained, un-tethered trans-sanity, or radical existential freedom unmoored (like an upper-class Philosophy dorm roommate who became an unrepentant bum and societal drop-out): given that there is *no basis* and I am intent on knowing that there is *no basis* on which to live as a cybernetic control agent, *what then shall I do*? Shall I go berserk, become the cybernetic chaos monster, end my viable future, while I know the truth about personal control?

Or, shall I — with *no logical basis* (because there can’t be a logical basis for personal conduct, from the absolute transcendent point of view) — continue on in a viable stable life — unjustifiable, non-rational, trans-rational, but not irrational, not anti-rational — both knowing the transcendent cybernetic truth *and* going on to have a (logically baseless) viable life, for example a life in which I can go on to teach other people about the mystic state and trans-logical “justification” or “trans-justification” for continuing to live.

It requires a miraculous resurrection, to go on living in the knowledge of truth, after our logical egoic basis and irrational egoic bias is exposed. This concern is unbelievable, can’t be taken seriously, by the mind in the ordinary state of tight cognitive binding — but these concerns are standard in the genius transcendent mind when egoic bias is drastically lifted and the mind is possessed by Pure Reason. Pure Reason cannot provide a rational, logical justification for conducting your life as if you are a power-wielding control-agent.

The kingdom of God is filled with pure reason and with an understanding of what pure reason cannot provide: justification for not acting-out control chaos. There is no rational justification for having a viable life rather than entering control-chaos. There *is* the reasoning that “God wants his kingdom of puppets to be viable, to both know his power and continue to live and thrive and multiply while knowing his power.” Puppets who decide to enter control-chaos would fail to make God’s kingdom multiply.

The reason you should not enter control-chaos is so that God’s kingdom can multiply by your instructing other people. I could’ve entered control-chaos — God made me know this through experience: God totally could’ve made my mind choose to enter control chaos and end my viable life; he showed me that. But instead, God chose to make me continue — with no basis in my own power or logic — with a viable life so that I can teach people about the cybernetic position of God.

I have a voice recording on cassette of the moment these principles (not the Isaac metaphor) was shown to me, on March 19, 1993, just after my roommate’s cat (= Dionysus) yawned. My mind was extremely relaxed and tranquil to the point of coming to a halt; the cat yawned, and the thought was put into my mind that I could be made to do *anything* and had no power to steer away from a compelling thought. I was shown the idea that my future could immediately be ended, that I could be made to will some harmful thing that would end my viable future.

I also at that time had a clear, though vague, vision of Jesus floating up with his kingdom, though this was confusing until November 2001 because I still assumed that Jesus was a historical figure. I was starting to understand this mystic principles and such logic, and had trouble, through 1999, attempting to fit-in the role of the historical Jesus in with these mystic-state principles. The solution rushed together upon removing the premise that didn’t fit — the historical Jesus.

In that 1993 experience, I was shown the ability to go on with a logically exempt, unjustifiable viable future, so that I could teach other people about personal control cybernetics (such as going on to publish my 1997 Core theory summary at Principia Cybernetica). This is presented as a choice to reason-through. There is no logical basis to choose between demonstrating your puppethood by control-chaos and ending your viable future versus going on (without logical justification) to have a baseless viable future in which you can teach other people about personal control baselessness revealed in the altered state.

If you choose control-chaos — which is completely ok per transcendent rationality, which doesn’t apply, then that implies that upon seeing Truth, people become non-viable; you cannot see God’s face and continue with viable life. If you choose viable life even though you know there’s no logical rational basis of justification for an awakened puppet to act as a coherent stable controller, then the advantage for God or for Truth is that you can go on to continue existing *and* knowing truth, both at the same time.

In terms of Bible metaphor, if you choose to see the substitute sacrifice that God provides as properly satisfying the logical requirements to recognize our helpless puppethood, then you can go on to multiply and thrive, so God will have a thriving kingdom of awakened people. You can go on to spread and communicate and propagate the race of the God of Israel. Not through literal procreation, but by *meme* propagation.

My role per 1993 is to propagate the knowledge of the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence, which is what the Bible is about: the collective set of people who are made to understand that they are helpless puppets and have no logical rational basis for their acting with cybernetic power.

“White-light electricity hum/buzz/beats feedback — Instrumental only. Free-form electric guitar. The main part starts around 1:30. 8 minutes. From an idea-development spoken-word recording named Escape Velocity, by Illumination Valve, March 19, 1993, a few minutes prior to the onset of transcendent religious control seizure (which was also captured on tape, against the backwards playback of this passage). Uploaded July 24, 2007. Compare to the visual art of Alex Grey.”

How can God have a kingdom of believers in him, if every time a person discovers the power of God or control-chaos in the intense psychotomimetic altered state of loose cognition, the person is made to sacrifice their viable future? In the peak window of psychotically unbiased transcendent thinking, you reach the point of control-chaos and the decision arises: I can either become chaotic, in which case, my life practically ends and I’m locked away and separated from society; or, I can baselessly *assume* that it is legitimate for me to continue with stable, viable self-control life.

It is disturbing, the baselessness, the logical lack of foundation for control activity once we perceive the arbitrariness of control. What is the logical basis justifying our continued pretense of stable self-control, once we see the truth, that we are controlled by blind heimarmene? There is no personal god, there is only Fatedness. The peak window in the altered state reveals that my life is subject to the whim of blind, mechanistic, uncaring fate — the monstrous god of heimarmene, ruler of the physical world. That is my given logical basis, I see.

There is a choice presented to the enlightened person: given that I am a helpless puppet of blind mechanistic fate, how can I logically justify acting coherently? Isn’t this the end of the road, for my viable self-control stability? How can we live, without delusion, after we have shown the non-veracity of egoic control; of self, time, and control? How can we live in a truth-aware way, where the truth shows that we have no logical basis for doing one thing or another after we have transcended egoic control?

There simply is no logical basis on which to live. It’s a category error. Our conduct is not a matter of logic; the demand for a logical basis for action is incoherent and meaningless.


Stairway to Heaven
Led Zeppelin
excerpt:

If there’s a bustle in your hedgerow, don’t be alarmed now,
It’s just a spring clean for the May queen.
Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run
There’s still time to change the road you’re on.


o Path 1 that occurs to us: Acting out chaos, in which case we go psychotic and have no viable future. We kill our future (represented by our son Isaac, who will go on to propagate the entire race of Israel, who is God’s people who worship him). Note the special circumstances about Isaac: the mother is unable to have any more children. Isaac is Abraham’s only son in the chain that will be Israel, God’s worshippers. If Isaac dies, *it’s not just Isaac* who dies, the whole *point* is that killing Isaac amounts to killing the entire set of people in the future who will be God’s worshippers.

By God having Abraham destroy Isaac, God is having Abraham destroy the entire set of God’s future worshippers! That’s the shocking point! It’s unimportant that Abraham is about to kill his son. as far as the son dying — that’s merely one little person. But this isn’t just any son — this is the son who will propagate the entire race of all the people who will worship this god in the future. By killing the root of the branch of all his worshippers, god in demonstrating his power over Abraham’s will, is depriving himself of all his future worshippers.

If the truth shows you that you have no viable basis for control and you must switch from viable delusion to enlightened control-chaos, then only transcendent psychotic chaotic people remain alive to worship god, and their lives are not viable. If seeing God makes you so sane and rational that you go berserk and become random and enter permanent control-chaos, then no one can know truth and go on to live within the state of knowing truth. God’s kingdom of worshippers will be practically empty. That’s the point of the story of Abraham sacrificing Isaac. God has to prove his power over his people, without destroying his people.

God has to kill something, or put that creature into control-chaos and demonstrate his ability to end that person’s life as a viable control-agent. So God provides a willful ram with its power caught in the cybernetic possibility branching bush, and God demonstrates his power to wreck and override one’s control-thoughts by making Abraham sacrifice the ram, *thereby preserving* Isaac who is the future progenitor of all the people who will know and worship and understand God’s cybernetic preeminence over our personal control power.

Belonging to Israel is only metaphorically being of a certain “race” — the “race” of the elect, those who are destined to be shown the ability of God to override and drive our control-thoughts into chaos and make us end our viable future as control-agents. For his worshippers to fully understand his position, God must demonstrate his “wrath”, his controller position which enables him to wreck our control. The idea of Jesus as the sacrificial lamb provided by God is equivalent.

In the case of Jesus, Jesus as ram is both sacrificed and preserved upon resurrection as the mystic king over a kingdom of the enlightened puppets, who all know that God can take over and wreck the control-viability of any of our minds. We are the “race” of puppets who have been demonstrated to be helpless and shown that our future is radically up to God’s whim. The puppetmaster at his whim could make our thoughts end our life or go chaotic in any number of ways — why doesn’t God drive our control into a wreck?

Because — the answer of the Bible is — if God’s way of revealing his position of power to us is that he harms us and wrecks our viable life, — (you must reason to yourself this way, thinking as God) — he wouldn’t have kingdom of worshippers; he would have a heap of psychotic ship wrecked minds. His kingdom would be merely a graveyard and insane asylum, hardly a worthy viable kingdom. He must build up his kingdom, he must have a way of demonstrating his power to smite or uphold the person’s train of control-thoughts, without actually harming his people that he brings into his court.

If I am the king, and I demonstrate my power over my people’s thinking by driving them insane and making them kill themselves, I will have no kingdom! I must find some other way to demonstrate that I am in control of my people’s minds, their personal cybernetic control-thinking.

Instead of having my people destroy their future as my way of revealing and demonstrating my power over them, I will instead provide my own *only* son, thus representing the entirety of my future control-life and lineage, and I shall make his mind choose willingly to sacrifice his own future, which is my future as control-agent, and I shall not make my people’s minds go into control-chaos and wreck and sacrifice their viable control-future. This way, I both demonstrate my power over thinking, and, preserve the viability of the future of my people in my kingdom.

When I make my son want to sacrifice himself, my point is that I could have made any of you, my people, will to go into control-chaos and sacrifice your viable future.


o Path 2 that occurs to us: Though we have no logical basis for justifying acting stable and consistent, it is possible, though not logically justifiable (it’s trans-rational; it’s not a matter of “logical basis”; the idea doesn’t apply; it would be a category error to demand a “logical basis” for acting coherent and viable in the future after being enlightened about being a helpless puppet and also throwing off the chains that constrain egoic thinking: our natural biases, likes, dislikes, attitudes.

You *can* non-rationally (not irrationally; not against logic, but independent of logic; logic doesn’t apply, though we expect it to) adopt transcendent magical thinking, a miraculous resurrection and bootstrapping, honoring a personal God. To sacrifice Isaac is to harm and cut off your own future life. Shall we hold that when you become enlightened, you must become chaotic and practically end your life? If that were the case, if we agree to that, there would be no enlightened *and* viable people to worship God. That’s the simple, classic religious idea.

If God shows his power by making you kill yourself and end your future, to show he’s in control of your thinking, then no one is allowed to live and know God. How can we (as cybernetic control agents) see the face of God (perceive our cybernetic nullity) *and* go on continuing to live in a viable, stable way?


I Don’t Know
Bob Daisley
excerpt

Nobody ever told me
I found out for myself
You gotta believe in foolish miracles
It’s not how you play the game
It’s if you win or lose
You can choose
Don’t confuse
Win or lose
It’s up to you


This is a new increase in clarity of connections: I’ve been working on these thoughts for years, but now they have really come together.

— Michael Hoffman, December 1, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6099 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 02/12/2012
Subject: Re: Bks by Algis Uzdavinys on Mystic Platonism, Ascent Mysticism
> Orpheus and the Roots of Platonism
> Algis Uzdavinys
> December 2011
> http://amazon.com/dp/1908092076
> 118 pages
Blurb:
“the religious, mystic origins and substance of philosophy. a critical survey of ancient and modern sources and of scholarly works dealing with Orpheus and everything related to this major figure of ancient Greek myth, religion and philosophy. Here poetic madness meets religious initiation and Platonic philosophy. insights into the usually downplayed relations between Egyptian initiation, Greek mysteries, and Plato’s philosophy and followers, into Hellenistic Neoplatonic and Hermetic developments.”


Reviewer Mysterium Ineffable wrote (rewritten for clarity by Michael Hoffman):
“In the modern era, it has always been a battle to understand the complex relationship between the work of Socrates and Plato and the religious context of the Greek religious world which they inhabited. This is primarily due to the fact that we are fed utter nonsense about them in the corporate academies, nonsense that flows downstream to the common folk and pollutes even the more noble attempts to appreciate their work.”

“I am fed up with the desire to see in these figures a kind of evolution from the befuddling superstitions projected back onto the ancient religious world, an evolution that makes its decisive break with Aristotle and which is then inherited by the Europeans a millennium later–a millennium spent mostly dormant in the prison of Islam–who then labored with it until they birthed together the modern world which in turn produced one simple irrefutable truth–namely, the only truth we can know is that we can’t know truth. If ever there was a reason to question our collective sanity, this must be it. The modern mentality is comprised of this insane fabric of assumptions. Whatever the causes and effects of this stupefying historical phenomenon, that is a false tale of evolutionism from ancient superstition up to wonderful us.”

“A handful of philosophers have kept the torch of real sophia lifted above the dark miasma of misosophy — hatred of wisdom or knowledge. Uzdavinys is a torch-bearer. He shows the relationship between the sacred and the Platonic tradition; between the Orphic and Apollonian mysteries and the work of Plato and Socrates. Shows the continuity between Plato and the various Platonists of antiquity, and it re-roots the holy work of the philosopher back in the soil of the sacred.”


Reviewer VeritasluxMea wrote (rewritten for clarity by Michael Hoffman):
“Algis’ intellect superceded his mentor, AK Coomaraswamy. Out of thousands of books on Orphism, Theurgy, and genuine ‘know their stuff’ metaphysicians, this book is one of the best, without question. Genuine metaphysicians like this rarely exist. The golden age of illumination was 200-600 CE. Algis was a genuine metaphysician. He threw his life upon the quest for Hellenic and Orphic Illumination. Condensed and straight to the point; inspired.”

______________

I heartily agree with the anger and disgust at how know-nothing non-initiate scholars have destroyed their subject by ignorantly forcing it into the mold of “evolution of ideas”. These modern writers are getting in the way and interfering with understanding the ancients. This is why I breathe relief when reading books from just prior to Jungianism. To damn Jung with faint praise: at least he’s not as bad as Freud.

Ken Wilber does this, misrepresenting “mythic consciousness” in Antiquity — as if he had the faintest clue about the meaning of myth, which he doesn’t; he obscures and pushes us away from understanding myth, by mis-interpreting it as child-like psychospiritual development by people who hadn’t yet learned egoic thinking.

The irony! Talk about “pre/trans fallacy”! Antiquity was post-egoic — turning Ken Wilber on his head. They can only be considered “pre-egoic” in a minor sense. In a way, society “progressed” or “evolved” from the entheogenic post-egoic Antiquity, to the eventual ordinary-state based Modern-era egoic-only consciousness, but our evolutionary trajectory is more a matter of thesis->antithesis->synthesis:

1. Antiquity: children had egoic thinking, all adults had entheogenic post-egoic mental models.

2. Modernity: children and adults had egoic-only mental models, no entheogens (within official culture), no transcendent mental model.

3. Post-Modernity: everyone has all the advantages of the modern egoic-only culture, plus, entheogenic Egodeath theory understanding of ancient myth and ego transcendence.

If Postmodernism outlaws metanarratives, early Ken Wilber was an outlaw, because he had a very heavy-handed, and substantially incorrect, metanarrative — the “evolutionary” tale of an ancient pre-egoic consciousness, modern egoic consciousness, and post-modern transcendent consciousness. It is an almost complete misunderstanding to think of antiquity as “pre-egoic”. They were much more, post-egoic, though they were pre-modern; that is, they were prior to the modern, egoic-only consciousness.

It is hard to defend the modern era as “more mature” than antiquity, given that modernity was developmentally stunted in mental childhood, without egodeath initiation.

— Michael Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com, December 1, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6100 From: jdcasten Date: 02/12/2012
Subject: Re: I mention and cite your work in my new book…

I’m thinking you’re a prophet Mr. Hoffman!

Just kidding… but yes…  check out this post from 1995 too:

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/alt.religion.buddhism.tibetan/VQC9aNU0XDQ

I’ve been researching my book Cybernetic Revelation for over 20 years… probably was more influenced by Heidegger in my choice of title than Hoffman… a phrase I independently discovered / coined… but I acknowledge your pioneering and inspiring work as a psychonaught—maybe we could agree about the possibility of independent poetic/scientific verification?  We share some influences as well… like Plato?  He was all for soul steering and revelation.

Yet, my perspective with my books is a bit robustly complex, not a tune to be named in one note, less defined and not reducible to phrases, such as “we are always already artificially intelligent,” “the zero dimension,” or “cybernetic revelation.”  Hence I would not think there was a Newton-Leibniz debate between the two of us… not a “who discovered calculus first” but more like two more or less “enlightened” perspectives on a similar universe.

Also check this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/fashion/bah-humblebrag-the-unfortunate-rise-of-false-humility.html?smid=pl-share

More ego-trip irony to think about…:D

Love your work Michael… thanks for pointing out the connection… keep on truckin’!

—JD


— In egodeath@yahoogroups.com, egodeath-owner@yahoogroups.com wrote:
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> I wrote the phrase ‘cybernetic revelation’ in my Egodeath Yahoo group some 7 times to date, since November 13, 2001, which was the week of my great Phase 2 breakthrough (extending my Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence to explain religious myth). I don’t know if I used the term before that, such as on the WELL in 1990.
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath/msearch?query=%22cybernetic+revelation%22
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> The Egodeath theory clearly explicitly explains what’s revealed in the mystic altered state, and how to translate religious myth to statements in terms of modern metaphysics and cognitive science and control theory — in terms of ‘cybernetics’, which is a neo-ancient word.
>
> I wrote the phrase ‘cybernetic transcendence’ in my Egodeath Yahoo group some 13 times to date.
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath/msearch?query=%22cybernetic+transcendence%22
>
> — Michael Hoffman, November 2012
>
Group: egodeath Message: 6101 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 03/12/2012
Subject: Ecstatic self-violation, willing end of king’s future, blood sacrifi
Warning; invitation; requirement for enlightenment: this posting is a major accomplishment in the theory of blood sacrifice and ecstatic terror. It is advanced and some elements are newly figured out and expressed here for the first time anywhere, ever, as far as a modern explicit explanation. I am the victorious heroic Theorist of Ego Death; I am the first modern theorist to explicitly and clearly explain the cybernetic self-control logic of blood sacrifice, being made willing to will one’s own demise.

I invite and warn you cognitive scientists: I guarantee you will be led to these horrific ecstatic considerations as through a doorway that you must pass through and cannot avoid and do not want to avoid. You want to understand the peak mystic-state vision of being made willing to harm yourself and your future, and understand why in that peak state you will be re-stabilized, relieved, set free, and released from a trap by envisioning:
o An android that is caused to will its own harm and destruction and loss of a viable future.
o A bloody self-sacrifice of a control agent.


What is the commonality between:
o Messiah savior king (political military leader) Jesus, willing to be crucified
o Sacrificing Isaac who will father all of Israel
o Mystic peak-state willingness to end one’s viable future, against one’s conventional will

All three scenarios express the theme of being made willing to end one’s entire future life as a cybernetic control agent. If God wills Jesus to will being killed on the cross/tree/pole, then his future kingdom and future kingship is ended. One theme hidden in the New Testament fiction is that Jesus didn’t actually die — his blood flowed from his side, thus he was removed alive from the cross.

“I’m reluctant to drink this cup of egoic-control-poisoning entheogens and have my kingship killed, but not my will, but yours, Father, be done.”


This analysis pulls together years of insights about the peak-state climax of ecstatic panic and loss of conventional control over thinking, leading to release from a kind of being held hostage (captivity, imprisonment) until paying the ransom price to purchase release into a viable and cybernetics-enlightened future, having spilled blood (willing it in violation of one’s will) to gain cybernetic integrity and purification of the mental model of personal control power.

A theory of religion must explain the classic peak-state dynamics of personal control inevitably heading for disastrous loss of control, and how control stability is restored. Foolish spiritualists tell me that negative panic is never necessary. But negative panic is an especially prominent potential of the altered state, and it’s something that the mind is inherently fascinated by: a strange, intriguing kind of treat, that is related to the workaday threat of mundane lack of control-integrity across time, as in intending to do engineering homework today and throughout the semester and having a puzzling struggle at carrying out that intention consistently.

It is a misconception to only think of negative panic as negative. We must purify thinking by fire, by threatening, by overpowering one’s control-power. The point, perhaps, is not the threat per se, not of one’s control power being overpowered by the divine sacred transcendent mental perspective; the point is to fully comprehend the cybernetics ramifications of the mystic-state perspective on time, self, and control. The objective is to have an integrity of understanding the transcendent mental model, and not be stuck only in the egoic mental model.

How can we effectively accomplish gaining integrity and satisfactory completeness of the transcendent mental model, which we desire? What is the most effective, ergonomic method, the most-effective means of forcefully putting into place the transcendent mental model?


One humanoid escapee
One android on the run
Seeking freedom beneath a lonely desert sun
Trying to change its program
Trying to change the mode — crack the code
Images conflicting into data overload
1-0-0-1-0-0-1
S.O.S.
In distress <==
Memory banks unloading
Bytes break into bits
Unit One’s in trouble and it’s scared out of its wits <==
Guidance systems break down <==
A struggle to exist — to resist <==
A pulse of dying power in a clenching plastic fist
It replays each of the days
A hundred years of routines
Bows its head* and prays <==
To the mother of all machines
-Neil Peart, The Body Electric

* = offering your head to be cut off, in cybernetic submission and acknowledgement: “You God could make me will *anything*, such as willing to end my viable future.” New lyric analysis point, December 2, 2012


Theory of sacrifice in terms of thinking about bloody self-harm as desiring to oppose one’s own desire, control-intending to contradict one’s own control-intention.
According to classic mystic-state myth, and acid-oriented Rock from the late modern era, the shortest path to fullest enlightenment about self, time, and control, is to think about your will being pitted against itself, such as thinking of an action that represents “a control-action you certainly don’t want to do”, such as ending one’s viable future in some ritual blood-spilling way, representing “overpowering ego”.

The problem is, though, no amount of physical acting-out the idea of “negate egoic control power and desire” can possibly guarantee comprehension of the transcendent perspective on personal control power. Therefore, you have to think about horrific ecstatic loss of control or overpowering-of-control scenarios, not do them.

These two actions are equivalent:
o Ritually scrambling one’s room (which I would never do, being a neatnic) as a demonstration of being unchained from egoic control power
o Spilling blood in such a way as to destroy one’s future, as a control-sacrificial demonstration of the powerlessness of egoic control power.

This is a reason why the figure of Jesus on the cross is bloody: when we are in the frenzied ecstatic state, in which we are caused by God to will against our will, to will the total harm and destruction of our egoic will, this idea is conveyed most vividly and forcefully by a horrific ecstatic vision of being made willing to commit bloody harm in a way that’s harmful to oneself, in an extreme violation of one’s egoic control bias.

Part of this ability is that egoic restraints are lifted, and part of this cybernetic ability is that the mind perceives its thoughts as being forced upon it, and personal control power being overridden and destabilized; one has no control over what intentions are injected into the mind by God and heimarmene/fatedness, some horrific knife blood desire violation idea, lying as a child-devouring monster on the labyrinth course dead ahead.

The sacrifice such as killing a piglet (Eleusis) or killing Jesus or killing the ram in place of Isaac, must be bloody and horrific and ecstatically willed and affirmed, to represent the idea of “the cybernetic agent is vulnerable to whatever ideas and intentions are lying ahead on the pre-set, timelessly pre-existing worldline”. This is how the clean logic of cybernetics ends up affirming and needing a bloody horribly anti-desired intention. Control must become its own enemy, contradicting itself to the extreme, to satisfy integrity of thinking about control. So we have acid-rock lyrics signaling “knife, enemy, horrors, doll, fear, death, guillotine”.

He’s got to walk a fine line
and keep his self-control
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
The boy lies in the grass with one blade
stuck between his teeth
A vague sensation quickens
in his young and restless heart
Like a steely blade in a silken sheath
Excitement so thick
You could cut it with a knife
Circling choppers slash the night
-Neil Peart, from the Signals album

How to fully exorcise the ego demon and purify the mind of egoic thinking?
purification: blood let out = egoic mental pollution let out. circumcision = blood


All preordained
A prisoner in chains
A victim of venomous fate <==
A planet of playthings
We dance on the strings
Of powers we cannot conceive (“un-perceive”)
Kicked in the face <==
You can’t (“can”) pray for a place
In heaven’s unearthly estate
Life is nothing left to chance
A host of holy horrors <==
To direct our aimless dance
You can choose a ready guide
In some celestial voice
Or the gods are malign <==
Blame is better to give* than receive
You can choose from phantom fears <==
And kindness that can kill <==
I will choose a path that’s clear
-Neil Peart, from the song Free Will

* The mystic attributes all blame to the transcendent Controller X, Zeus, the Fates, the Heimarmene-snake, JHVH, God, instead of to the mystic’s own moral-control agency. New; I figured out this line on December 2, 2012.


The peaking mystic is held hostage in prison by the blind heartless cosmic Necessity machine that demands a ransom payment (for your release) of full acknowledgement that God could inject any thought into your mind and there’s nothing you could possibly do about it. That is the breakthrough realization that we cybernetic control-agents desire: to comprehend that God could inject any thought into your mind and there’s nothing you could possibly do about it.

The mystic peak state is dangerously rudderless, which is vulnerability to control-disaster, a desirable vulnerability to being made willing to end your future as a control agent. There is no possible way to steer away from the thought that is lying ahead on the pre-set rail of your worldline: God and Heimarmene can prove to your mind that he can make your mind will to end your future life as a control-agent. He can forcefully turn your plastic hand against yourself, to fully disprove your power of self-control.

There is no way to slow down and stop the crazy train of thought that is rushing toward the inevitable beautiful disaster realization that cleanses the mind of egoic impurity, of the delusion that we have autonomous control of our thinking, control over what thoughts are made to arise in our mind. Dionysus predestines us to ingest the entheogenic cup, enter ritual madness and ecstasy, and predestines us to think about these things.


When King Lycurgus (= king Ego; egoic control-thinking) of Thrace heard that Dionysus was in his kingdom, he imprisoned all the followers of Dionysus (= kingdom of Israel/Jesus). Dionysus injected thoughts of revolt into the people of Thrace. Dionysus made King Lycurgus (king ego) insane; Dionysus gave thoughts to the king that made the king slice his own son (sacrificing one’s childish thinking and self-concept) into pieces with an axe, thinking he was a patch of ivy (= heimarmene, worldline in frozen 4D spacetime). Ivy is snake-shaped like heimarmene and is a sacred attribute of Dionysus (compare ribbons on the thyrsus).

An oracle claimed that the land would stay barren as long as king ego was alive, so his people had him drawn and quartered (= loose cognition, ego death, disproof of egoic control power). As soon as king ego was sacrificed, Dionysus lifted the curse of cybernetic control-impotence from the kingdom. — Homer, Iliad 6.136-7. Lycurgus tried to kill Ambrosia (= entheogen), a follower of Dionysus. Ambrosia was transformed into a heimarmene-vine that twined around the enraged king-ego and restrained him to the 4D block universe, killing king ego.


Your control-thoughts are profoundly dependent = loss of control = sacred disaster = transcendent instability = the numinous (attraction + horrific fear) = heading for disaster enlightenment = prophecy = “your kingdom will fall unless you repent and worship God” = unable to save oneself = require reset from outside one’s power = panic = cybernetic control-agency death = control-power instability = self-control seizure = self-control vortex = doomed =

A song just came on the radio: “Oh no, here we go, got a crazy feeling I don’t understand, got to get away from here, feeling like I should’ve kept my feet on the ground, waiting for the sun to appear” -Bob Daisley

= desiring an enlightening state of helplessness = puppet = doll = crazy = divine madness = desire to be tied up and rap’d and overpowered by the deity = self-transgressive mission to heaven = necessary disproving = being made to desire a complete maximum violation of self-control to gain full enlightenment and cleanse the mind of egoic confusion about control-power.


The mind is made willing to spill blood and end one’s future to satisfy the requirement of proving powerlessness over one’s thoughts (this presumes you absolutely don’t want blood spilled; a more general idea of this is “to harm one’s future in a way that one totally objects to, thus demonstrating totally forceful willing against one’s totally forceful will — an arm-wrestling to the point of ego-death of one’s power wrestling against oneself; wrestling alone against the angel/man/God all night and got a blessing because he struggled with God and has overcome. “I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared.”

The idea of blood sacrifice violation of one’s future fulfills and appeases one’s demand (when one is given the mind of Dionysus) to demonstrate understanding of personal control limitations and fascinating cybernetic self-control vulnerability. God wants me to understand. God wants my non-control. God controls my thinking. I want non-control. I want to understand. I am God; my mind conforms to the mind of God. I want to prove non-control.

I’m not here right now; Dionysus has taken over my mind. I am in full control of my mind and of my personal control: I am Dionysus. The ego mask belongs to no one, it belongs to Dionysus, the secret foreign king.


People think I’m crazy but I’m in demand
Never heard a thing I said (dead… dead… dead)
No use saying sorry
It’s something that I enjoy

He’ll show you no mercy.
Your image in his hands it’s useless to try
Escaping his curses
Nowhere to run – your fate is in his hands
Your time has come – you’ll live to his command
I’m warning you – the worst is yet to come
You never imagined such a fate could follow you
And when it’s your time I wonder how you’ll do
Your kind of trouble’s running deeper than the sea
You broke the rules
You’ve been a fool
The little doll is you

-Bob Daisley

Acid-oriented rock (AOR) = holy sacred scripture and prophecy of disaster and satisfactory transcendence exorcism purification cleansing to gain complete perfected integrity of the mental model of self, time, and control. Acid-rock lyrics carry more authority, credibility, and weight than the Bible, because they are written by our peers in the late modern era.

‘Snake handling’ means mentally playing with the perspective and control-ramifications of heimarmene. The difference between snake handling in Antiquity and in the late modern era is that Antiquity recognized the snake as representing Fatedness, heimarmene, and its ramifications for personal control power. To safely manipulate ideas about the ramifications of heimarmene for null personal control power over your future thought-stream, you must understand your mind being taken over by the heimarmene-serpent God and made willing to think anything.

As the perfect extreme example, God and Fate is secretly in control of your mind and can very well make you willing to harmfully end your future as control-agent, as we may recognize and affirm in the vision of the willing sacrificial crucifixion of king Jesus, the messiah of his future kingdom of the Elect. His blood spills, as Isaac’s ram’s blood spills, as king Pentheus is made to will his demise, as Mithras’ powerful ego-bull’s blood spills out and we are purified upon realizing the god and Fatedness can make us will anything including our own demise.

The peak-state harmful willingness to spill blood and come to an end as a control-agent proves enlightenment and purifies and cleanses the mind of egoic thinking.

Thus I am the victorious heroic Theorist of Ego Death. I am the first modern theorist to explicitly explain the cybernetic logic of blood sacrifice.

— Michael Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com, December 2, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6102 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 03/12/2012
Subject: Re: Ecstatic self-violation, willing end of king’s future, blood sac
In this lyric line (as I mentioned years ago), “kill” is double-pronounced “kill/cure”. The highly relevant, acid-oriented song “Black Blade” by Blue Oyster Cult has such a double-pronunciation, around the same year.

You can choose from phantom fears
And kindness that can kill
-Neil Peart, Free Will

The mind is cured, cleansed of pollution, purified, and exorcised, through complete ego death and mental model transformation about self, time, and control. ‘kindness’ relates to ‘mercy’ saving and preserving the mystic from the ‘wrath’ of God. The mystic-state threat of God’s wrath, in which the mystic mind is made able to will self-violation of control (“can kill”), followed by mercy, cures the ego delusion. This is a new exegesis of this lyric line, December 2, 2012.

I suspect John Edwards (Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God) and other modern-era Christians used entheogens, as already evidenced with Joseph Smith (Mormons).

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6103 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 03/12/2012
Subject: Re: Ecstatic self-violation, willing end of king’s future, blood sac
My previous post is sufficient, on the mystic self-violation blood sacrifice idea and vicarious self-will-violation blood sacrifice. I have attacked the subject dead-center of the extreme psychotic-like crazy too-sane realization lying in wait in the peak window of the intense mystic altered state. Thus I have covered all the real actual basics of what is in fact commonly experienced in the modern acid dissociation state in full, uncensored, not whitewashed or misrepresented.

I have covered the full ecstatic terror and logic of the Bible as mystic peak-state fiction, modern full-on acid-type dissociation experiencing, and Greco-Roman religious mythemes of sacrifice, killing the king, snake, tree/bush, pole, ivy, turned to stone, purification, and exorcism.

Having mentioned ‘bush’, a note now occurs to me: Moses’ burning bush is connected to the cybernetic possibility-branching bush (= ‘tree’) in which Isaac’s ram’s power is struggling, caught, and nullified. Thus I have completely shown how all religious myth connects to the main underlying framework, the simplest possible framework underlying religion and esoteric mystic-state religious revelation, which is Cybernetics/Heimarmene/Dissociation per the Egodeath main article.

— Michael Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com, December 2, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 6104 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 03/12/2012
Subject: Re: Break, and writing experiments
I am going on hiatus now.


On the radio now:

Pink Floyd
Learning To Fly
excerpts

Stretched to the point of no turning back <== worldline unavoidability
A flight of fancy
Standing alone my senses reeled
A fatal attraction is holding me fast, <== attraction, fatedness
How can I escape this irresistible grasp?

Can’t keep my eyes from the circling skies <== noncontrol of mental attention
Ice is forming on the tips of my wings <== headed for disaster
Unheeded warnings, I thought, I thought of everything
No navigator to find my way home
Unladened, empty and turned to stone <== 4D block universe
A soul in tension — that’s learning to fly <== nonctrl of intention: panic
Condition grounded but determined to try

Above the planet on a wing and a prayer,
My grubby halo, a vapour trail in the empty air,
Across the clouds I see my shadow fly
Out of the corner of my watering eye <== water-like vision
A dream unthreatened by the morning light <== threat
Could blow this soul right through the roof of the night

There’s no sensation to compare with this
Suspended animation, a state of bliss <== timeless block universe

Can’t keep my mind from the circling skies <== no control of thinking

– New exegesis by Michael Hoffman, December 2, 2012. Exercise for the reader: apply Egodeath theory interpretation to the version by Petty/Lynne.

Learning to Fly
Tom Petty/Jeff Lynne

Well I started out down a dirty road
Started out all alone
And the sun went down as I crossed the hill
And the town lit up, the world got still

I’m learning to fly, but I ain’t got wings
Coming down is the hardest thing

Well the good ol’ days may not return
And the rocks might melt and the sea may burn

Well some say life will beat you down
Break your heart, steal your crown
So I’ve started out, for God knows where
I guess I’ll know when I get there

I’m learning to fly, around the clouds,
But what goes up must come down
Group: egodeath Message: 6105 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 03/12/2012
Subject: Re: I mention and cite your work in my new book…
My linked posting from September 21, 1995:

Coming soon:


THE CYBERNETIC REVELATION
Deconstruction of Self-Control


gathering topics such as:

Hyperfrozen Hyperfreedom

Virtual Freedom and the Virtual Ego

Predetermination or ‘Fate’: A Simpler Proposition than Determinism
(‘Predictable-ism’)

Acid Rock – The Authentic Modern Mystery-School

Hypothetical Realism – Anything Other than My Present Experiencing
Might or Might Not Exist

Uh oh — The Terror Is Beginning Again, and There Is No Way to Avoid
Playing into the Hands of the Future

Shining the Psychedelic Spotlight On Cognitive Self-Control
Cybernetics

Armchair Conjectures about Cybernetic Freakout

The Taboo Against Alchemical Introspection

What Transgression Lies in Store for a Temporarily Psychotic Morality
Puppet?

Control Stability and the Limits to Self-Determination

Fate, Predetermination, and the Block Universe

Homeostatic Equilibrium and Catastrophic State-Shift

— Michael Hoffman, 1995
http://www.egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 6106 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 03/12/2012
Subject: Lyrics: The Spirit of Radio (Rush/Peart)
I now for the first time provide an exegesis of The Spirit of Radio, which is playing now on the radio.

http://egodeath.com/rushlyrics.htm#xtocid22967

The Spirit of Radio
Neil Peart
excerpts for scholarly analysis

Plays the song that’s so elusive
And the magic music makes your morning mood. <== magic=entheogenic. also consider mourning your ego death/Tammuz/Jesus’s apparent death

Off on your way, hit the open road <== closed future
Undemanding contact in your happy solitude. <== percep solips bubble

Invisible airwaves crackle with life
Double-pronunciation:
“Invisible *railways* crackle with life” — worldline, hidden heimarmene snake / your preset rail

Bright antenna bristle with the energy <== receiving suggestions
Emotional feedback on timeless wavelength <== 4D frozen spacetime
Bearing a gift beyond price, almost free <== price of enlightenment = death of freedom

All this machinery making modern music
Can still be open-hearted. <== heartless Heimarmene-thinking or merciful compassionate God-thinking
Not so coldly charted, it’s really just a question
Of your honesty, yeah, your honesty. <== no wrath; understanding
[check: isn’t this “yeah, you honestly”? I need to do my own transcription of what’s actually sung]

One likes to believe in the freedom of music, <== not freedom
But glittering prizes and endless compromises
Shatter the illusion of integrity. <== loose cognition, awareness sees through illusion of self/control/time/change

For the words of the profits were written on the studio wall, <== prophet of the self-control king’s impending inevitable control-cancellation doom and coerced self-destruction unless he acknowledges his helpless dependence on God/heimarmene

And echoes with the sounds of salesmen. <== No One at the Bridge: sails men, the dead helmsman

— Michael Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com December 2, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 6107 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 03/12/2012
Subject: Re: The Swoon/Shroud/India theory of Jesus’ death
The punch line of the mystic joke meaning-flipping fiction that is the Bible: according to the gospel story, Jesus (a character in the Hellenistic fiction story) was alive when removed from the cross. He bled, they emphasize, therefore he was alive per Gruber and Kersten. I have connected the swoon theory, NT as Hellenistic fiction, Bible as mystic riddle-joke, and Mythical Jesus, and the ahistoricity of Paul and Christinity in antiquity.

The “medieval” shroud of Turin and alternative chronology are connected to that gospel fiction story. I disbelieve our Benedictine chronology. I cringe every time I read “for a thousand years” or “for two thousand years”. I call b.s. on those long periods. We need a good alternative hypothesis. Edwin Johnson: Medieval Christianity is the start of Christianity, in the “renaissance” pagan era (there was no paganism decline or rebirth).

Now that no one believes Jesus existed, we are justified in asking what else are we dead wrong about? Chronology, and historical Paul as I’ve written about for years. Don’t tell me “ok we were dead wrong about Jesus existing, but Paul existed and it’s crazy to question our established chronology. And we still have 3 authentic letters written by Paul.”

I discovered the single identifiable historical Jesus on whom Christian origins depend: the man in the Turin shroud in the “middle ages”, the age of magic and forgery.

Ehrman’s new book Forgery and Counter-Forgery says everything is forgery. The Bible is the prime product of the 15th Century– the age of magic, esotericism, and forgery, and invented, pseudo-history.

— Michael Hoffman, December 2, 1312 aka 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 6108 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 05/12/2012
Subject: Re: The Revelation, Apocalypse, and Last Judgement
Blessing, graduation, and Armageddon for literalist Christianity

My 2012 Prophecy and Delivery Package: now is Armageddon, the end of the world for literalist Christianity, and a new Kingdom of God on Earth as in Heaven. I take away literalist historical Jesus and Paul, and reveal that the figure on the cross was taken down alive and bleeding from his side in the Hellenistic Gospel story, where he rose again from among the dead.

I Michael the Archangel destroy literalist Christianity and reveal transcendent control thinking, giving the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence and full justification and completed transformation of our mental model of self, time, and control.

I take away the bush of possibility branching, and free will, and personal moral autonomous culpability. I take away the exciting prospect of destruction of the world in a literal fiery conflagration. I take away the ecstatic, exciting frenzy of the alarming build-up of the mental scenario of self-destruction in light of our mental vulnerability to remembering our Fated sacrificial self-violation that demonstrates understanding transcendent knowledge about the illusion of personal control acting across time.

I bring a completed, finished theory and explanatory framework for myth, metaphor, and analogy in Antiquity and the Middle Ages, revealing that all of these refer ultimately to Cybernetics, Heimarmene, and Dissociation.

We want, we need completion of transcendent thinking; we want a blessing and a graduation diploma in fully understanding what horrifically thrilling serpentine monstrous thought is revealed in the peak window of the intense mystic altered state. We must have the diamond from the dragon as certification of our completion of transcendent comprehension. We demand a blessing from the angel that we have proven our full understanding of the mind’s helpless puppethood, being injected with the intention to prove our willingness to violate self-control to demonstrate understanding of transcendent control thinking.

We get the blessing from the angel, the graduation certification of full basic understanding of Cybernetics, Heimarmene, and Dissociation, after we stare into God’s face and see our ability to violate self-control and end our cybernetic life, thinking with the mind of the Angel of Death who demonstrates our helpless, dependent mental puppethood.

We demand a blessing from the God/man/angel before we will let go of wrestling with him, since we were able to look in his face and affirm demonstration of lack of control of intention, being made willing to intend demonstration of catastrophic self-control violation. With Abraham we say “Yes I can be made willing to sacrifice my future lineage and thriving kingdom, through my son — or sufficiently through the ram caught in the control-branching bush and provided for us by God as the sacrificial tribute and proof-demonstration that God gives to himself.”

With Jacob, we demand certification, the graduation diploma, a blessing from the angel we are willing to look at and wrestle with. With Balaam we say “All the words I speak to you are put into my mouth by God. I affirm and bless, not curse, Israel: the kingdom of Israel is true and enlightened and has attain perfection and completion of transcendent thinking, and they are justified, blessed, and certified as having past the graduation test, the acid test, of being willing to bow their head and say “No my will, but that of Heimarmene and Controller X be done.”

With Paul on the snaking road of heimarmene, we turn from cursing the Christians to blessing them. With Jesus, we affirm, “Yes, I am willing to lose my life and demonstrate my willing loss of control power.” We are spiritual warriors proving willing to die to egoic self-control and self-preservation. As puppets of God, we know the cybernetic truth about self-control illusion aspects, no-free-will, inability to control and avoid our thinking that is predestined, and have made peace with the prospect of loose cognition taking over our thoughts and intentions.

We understand mythic metaphor and all analogy in Antiquity, all leading to Cybernetics, Heimarmene, and Dissociation. We recognize all religious writing and mythemes and genres as in truth, pointing to Cybernetics, Heimaremene, and Dissociation. With Jonah, we are disappointed that Nineveh heeded our warning of certain coming doom, and repented humbly acknowledging God’s position to strike down our kingdom in an ecstatic frenzied loss of control.

I take away literalist Christianity, and thereby also literalist Islam and literalism Jewish religion and it is now Armageddon for all literalist religion, revealing the Apocalypse of the simplest religion, the Egodeath theory, the disappointing removal of vague and fantastic “traditional mystic methods”, replaced by psychedelic drugs, entheogens, psychotomimetic sacred meals which is the traditional Eucharist.

Born from a rock, set free from being held hostage in prison, water and life flowing from a rock, and rulers being turned to marble statues that move, our bodies are wrapped tightly locked in place by the sacred heimarmene snake and we awaken to the egg shell and burst through it, past the gatekeeper of the terrible thought of willingness to violate self-preservation in order to fully comprehend truth.

Puppets of Israel, brides of Mithras, you who have learned to look at the sun without flinching and understand willingness to demonstrate transcendence of personal control, you have been certified and cleansed of mental impurity and brought into alignment with the transcendent thinking. You have been brought into God’s sacrifice that he provides for you, for himself, instead of making you prove your puppethood, to fully know the truth about personal control-power and the origin of personal control thoughts and intentions.

The demon has been cast out, certain destruction of our self-control has been averted and affirmed, and the sacred madness of willing self-sacrifice has been mentally integrated into our thinking. Perfection, sacred marriage, completion, certification, graduation, and blessing to Israel, the kingdom of enlightened puppets who have been injected with complete basic transcendent knowledge.

Make clear the way of the Lord, who will re-legalize all drugs, set the prisoners free, and condemn to perdition the dangerous, demonic, anti-truth Prohibitionists, who are a menace to society and block the way of Science.

The Politics of Consciousness: A Practical Guide to Personal Freedom
Steve Kubby
Foreward by Terrence McKenna
http://amazon.com/o/asin/189362644X
1995

It is a time of mourning the mega ego deaths as the memes of the Egodeath theory propagate, as an entire civilization flips from egoic delusion and literalist religion, to transcendent thinking and comprehension of mystic analogy, as the scales fall from our eyes and we understand the Parable, and turn to look behind the mind, and our sins be forgiven.

There is no more need to prove transcendent comprehension of divine control-seizure, as the angel could not prevail over our God-conformed thinking which passed the test of transcendent thinking. There is no more sin or dying or alienation from the transcendent, and no more heaven for deluded moral freewill souls.

The end of the world is here for literalist religion, and we console with comprehending ancient religion, mystic metaphor, and mystic psychedelic state analogies in all forms and genres. Heed the Teafaerie on 2012 doomsday wisdom. http://www.erowid.org/columns/teafaerie/2009/12/02/towards-2013/

We have been abandoned by our childish idea of God, and are left with nothing to fall back on but transcendent knowledge about Cybernetics, Heimarmene, Dissociation, and Metaphor, to solve our real world problems, helped by the wisdom of real, mystic, entheogenic religion, which is all about Cybernetics, Heimarmene, and Dissociation, not escapism into vague unrealities.

Time shall be no more: when we were children, we thought as children, and now it is time to put away childish things and study the bitter sweet scrolls the angel inevitably gives us: take, eat, and know the message of the Lord.

— Michael the Archangel
http://www.egodeath.com, December 4, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012 M. Hoffman. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6109 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 05/12/2012
Subject: Re: The Revelation, Apocalypse, and Last Judgement
I affirm and bless, not curse, Israel: the kingdom of Israel is true and enlightened and has attained perfection and completion of transcendent thinking, and they are justified,
blessed, and certified as having passed the graduation test, the acid test, of
being willing to bow their head and say “Not my will, but that of Heimarmene and
Controller X be done.”
Group: egodeath Message: 6110 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 05/12/2012
Subject: Re: The Revelation, Apocalypse, and Last Judgement
What happened to the comforting shade of the possibility branching bush that sheltered Jonah from the light of the face of God’s transcendent cybernetic truth? The heimarmene worm ate the bush of virtual possibilities, revealing, in the light of the sun of clear perception, that only a single path through the possibility bush is actually possible: that path through the bush branching that is the single, pre-set, pre-existing, fated future path of thoughts and actions. The snake ate up the tree, exposing the sun light.

— Original theory application result, December 4, 2012, Michael S. Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6111 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 05/12/2012
Subject: Re: Break, and writing experiments
I am going on hiatus now. Flow is a strain.

This is complete. More is mere variants and additional application of the same thing. My role is to explicitly uncover and reveal the entire comprehensive basic framework of transcendent knowledge including how to analogy-map anything to the core Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence, which is the starting point of reference for all religious philosophy, the model by which all are compared in relation to.

— Michael Hoffman, December 5, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 6112 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 07/12/2012
Subject: Re: Lyrics: Electric Prunes: Get Me to the World on Time
Written by Annette Tucker with Jill Jones

> Artist: The Electric Prunes
> Song: Get Me to the World on Time
> Release date: March 1967
> Reached #27 on the U.S. pop charts
> Transcribed accurately by Michael Hoffman (Egodeath.com) for the first
> time on the Web, Sep. 15, 2005
Group: egodeath Message: 6113 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 07/12/2012
Subject: Self-control seizure: divine organ of climax ability & passionate de
The attractive, compelling self-cancellation of self-control, is numinous: it is apprehended and desired and sought. How can we learn to climax safely, experiencing our ability to experience being out of control, without spilling the shallow kylix (“cup”, actually a shallow saucer)? How to experience being really, forcefully, dynamically out of control (as a real, nonordinary state), while remaining practically in control?

The uninspired outsiders say we have the waking and dreaming state, but there’s the climax state too — not merely thinking about control cancellation, but *experiencing* the paranoid bending-inwards, the latching and catching of thought on itself, like a circle that turns and has curly hooks that catch, on its rim. How to surf the point of no return, the event horizon, controlling the build-up and release?

4-HO-DiPT is a 2-3 hour orally active psychedelic with classic-effects that could enable the safest strongest dancing with this control-vortex catching ability, where the mind can enter into the point of no return, and experience the alien takeover effect, and then come out of that and go back in and out of that opening, that experiential organ of climax and control-loss potential. Shulgin “doubt[s] that there is another psychedelic drug, anywhere, that can match this one for speed, for intensity, for brevity, and sensitive to dose, at least one that is active orally.”

It is not merely a matter of “think these thoughts and counter-thoughts, and hold this attitude and perspective in mind”. You also must have a suitable degree of loose cognition. It can be a little depressing after dancing with the control-vortex capability

The hole in the side from which transcendent thinking is born is an organ of regeneration and climax. Control loss is initially frightening. Later, the higher male thought injector and lower female helpless thought receiver have coupled climactically a number of times in the mystic bridal chamber. Now the advanced initiated mystic regularly comes home after class and can have a self-control seizure climax on-demand.


Today, December 6, 2012, is Drug Re-legalization Day: a Holy Day for the Egodeath theory

Until 1966, psychedelics and entheogens were correctly covered by law; that is, there was no law. Then, recently, Richard Nixon pulled out of a dark place, his rules, which are erroneously called “laws” by some people, claiming nonsensically that entheogens are “illegal”. Such is the way of all the “drug schedules”. They are a recent fabrication invented for all the worst motivations. There is nothing good about Prohibition, and there is everything bad about it.

The mythic, fictional Jesus, the mythic Paul, and the mythic Church Fathers in Antiquity all drank entheogenic wine and ate psychedelic bread, same as everyone did in Greco-Roman recreational religious banquets and political ceremonies and city festival feasts and funeral clubs and mystery cultic initiations.

Today, the drug schedules (a recent, phony invention) are all thrown away forever: Cannabis is again not a crime, just as through 1900 it was not a crime. Now that Cannabis is legal, it is legal like it was in 1900 and all psychoactive drugs and plants are legal like they were in 1900. Prohibition rose up one day recently, caused immense harm, and then freedom was restored. Cannabis was re-legalized today, which means a catastrophic collapse: War Is Over: there is no more drug prohibition; instead, the door to religious experiencing and the passion of self-control seizure climax is thrown open.

Prohibitionists are thrown into the fiery pit, thrown into the prison system that they engineered, and are viciously dealt with by their own thugs-in-uniform God-forsaken drug squads that they designed, and we look down at them and vengefully laugh at their torment and separateness from God and truth and the passion of self-control seizure climax. The hunters become the hunted, the oppressors the victims of their own oppression. The prisoners are set free and the evil prohibitionist rulers of this world take their place rightfully, frozen in chains in the bottom of the pit of Hell.


We must trace the transition from Antiquity in which the heimarmene snake was worshipped (with Zeus subject to Fate), to the later Gnostic and then Christian level-increase where the praise was transferred to the idea of transcending heimarmene. The distinction is relatively advanced in terms of symbol-usage or allegory-connecting. We are one-foots, hokey-pokey standers: if one foot is supported by the Heimarmene snake, then what supports our other foot: personal control thinking, or transpersonal God ruling from outside the cosmic egg of Heimarmene?

Do we hate egoic freewill delusion (the Possibilism or branching tree view of time) and revere Heimarmene (the Eternalism view of time), or do we — like Gnostics and later Christians — disparage Heimarmene as a “prison” that the higher God provides the sacrificial demonstration for to pay the ransom hostage-release price to set us free and buy us back so that we are transferred, no longer slaves to the rulers of this world that’s ruled by the sun (the Fate-ruled Heimarmene) but now are slaves owned and controlled by the transcendent Mithras or God, whose throne of control lies outside the cosmic boundary of the Heimarmene snake.

But we are not slaves of Mithras; we are sons, but we are even more than merely natural sons, we are adopted sons of God, and therefore he passes on his power and life and transcendent freedom to us.

Being and Becoming in Modern Physics: Presentism, Possibilism, Eternalism
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/spacetime-bebecome/#2.1
Shows diagrams of time-slice solipsism, egoic branching-future possibility-tree, and the single-future frozen block universe. I identified (as a massive breakthrough around 2003) as the Heimarmene snake, and the branching I realized in 2011 as the tree in mystic-state mythic metaphor, completing the Rosetta-stone translation of the snake-tree contrast together with “marble rock – flowing water” contrast, and the master-mytheme of ‘kingship’.

Rudy Rucker’s 1977 first edition of the 4th Dimension has a couple pages that contain some of the words ‘branch’, ‘tree’, ‘worm’, and ‘snake’, but that’s the closest anyone got to recognizing this massive key breakthrough connection.

Geometry, Relativity and the Fourth Dimension
Rudolf Rucker
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0486234002
1977
“world line” 23 hits.
branch — 3 relevant hits
worm: 4 hits. Uses world line and life-worm as synonyms. A worm is even more linear than a snake, to represent a spacetime world-line of a person or object.
tree: 7 hits, apparently not branching possibility trees
bush: 0 hits

Such advanced idiocy totally dominates now: when people write about ‘block universe’ they instantly fixate on “many-worlds of QM = block universe”, ruining, bastardizing, and obscuring the original, clear model of the block universe. QM is the #1 thing preventing people from thinking clearly. Say “freewill” — people say QM. Say “block universe” — people say QM and “many-worlds”. Say “ESP” and people say QM. Say “consciousness” and people say QM.

QM is the late-modern idol that the lost and benighted sacrifice to. People can’t even understand the elementary idea that the spacetime block *contains* change. Some people try to improve on the idea by adding change to it — “as unneeded as legs on a snake”, Alan Watts would say. Except for the inherently nebulous idea of “transcending heimarmene” (necessary for explaining ideas that developed in late-antiquity religious myth), the Egodeath theory is brutally simple, as simple as possible.


What if my unavoidable near-future worldline contains some generalized horrific self-control violation, and loose cognition latches onto that idea, desiring to Know the truth and the experiential potential for the mental dynamics of self-control? The mind has that climax-organ. How does it work? How can we use it safely, on-demand?

How can entheogenic adult initiates, married to God, practice safe seizure, safe sacrifice, safe mystical passion, safe self-cancellation of personal control? It is not too complicated. It requires *not* complicating thinking, though everyone is intent on complicating things. I am a simple thinker. The solution to the Mysteries must be a simple analogy riddle solution: “4 then 2 then 3 legs” means a person, and thus answering the riddle, our life is spared from self-destruction upon self-control seizure.

We think of sacrificing the willful ram whose powerful horns are caught struggling to no avail in the bush all provided by God for us to rely on rather than carrying out some self-control violation demonstration; we think of the myth of God’s son (whether adopted or merely begotten) willingly sacrificing himself and his kingship to pay the passion price so that we may have interpenetration with God and live freely and thrive despite looking right into the face of transpersonal control power.

Through travelling in and out through the portal opening in his side, we move back and forth in and out of divine madness frenzied ability to threaten our own egoic control and put down the threat and excite the suggestible mind on demand, calm, passionate, well-experienced, ecstatic, and when the quickening embrace releases, “it’s really not the end, like old Sol behind the mountain, I’ll be coming up again.”

New connection:
Mars: taking a stance of war against our own seizing, near-future control-thoughts.
Venus: pursuing self-control seizure as a climactic love embrace in a herme-aphrodite person of 2-natures.


New connection realization just now (probably refutes some shortcomings of Acharya as well as Ulansey and everyone else):

Sol, the initiate, in Mithraism, represents personal rulership in the initiate, as distinct from cosmic transcendent rulership which is held by Mithras (= God). This is how the sun is represented in Mithraism both as transcendent but merely the lower sun. The killer question for Acharya’s true-so-far-as-it-goes system: if religion is really about the sun, *which* sun, and what is the relation between the sun and the hypercosmic sun, in terms of entheogenic loose-cognitive initiation and transcendence in personal control power?

David Ulansey writes about the hypercosmic sun beyond the sun. The sun is the ruler of the block universe, which is bounded by an ouroboros heimarmene snake. Beyond the sphere of the fixed stars — outside of Heimarmene — is the transcendent cosmic light peeking through the star-holes. The realm of the God who lifts us up out from the cosmic cave of Heimarmene. We then walk out of the cave, now having transcended Heimarmene.
http://www.mysterium.com/hypercosmic.html


Perhaps Ken Wilber or the early Catholic Church (to rule this and the otherworld) reconciles this value-flipping: First, we develop to a stage, then dissociate from it *but integrate* it while we struggle to be free from *exclusive* identification with it. First we leave our attachment to egoic control and identify with ego-killing Heimarmene, and then after Antiquity we leave our Heimarmene-attachment and transcend higher while retaining both egoic mental structures and our understanding of and perception of Heimarmene.

This is a *valid* way of doing what Wilber tries to do, force a story of “evolution” onto history in the so-called “mythic” era. Historically, we might see a change from depictions of Fate and Heimarmene as representing piety (such as touching the snake in a non-branching tree), to depictions of standing on the cosmic X-cross to transcend Heimarmene.

Antiquity moved from venerating Heimarmene (snake worship) to venerating Mithras who stands outside time and moves the Zodiac itself, venerating the transcending of Heimarmene. The mind has an organ, a birth-passageway, which enables the experience of mystic-state ego-death climax, mystic passion, entheogenic self-control cancellation org*sm and overpowering, where Fate gives the mind the desire to cause its own self-control instability on-demand as a thrilling capability the mind discovers and desires intimate interaction with repeatedly in a sacred marriage ongoing.

Did the move from venerating Heimarmene in Antiquity to venerating the transcending of Heimarmene in Late Antiquity, change the psychological experience of passionate climax of self-control being overcome and overpowered by the divine? That is an advanced basic question for the Egodeath theory.


Learning How to Cybergasm

We must recognize positively the mind’s organ and potential to latch onto suggestible paranoia and be pulled in on itself in a climactic enlightening self-control violation event, not as we fear parents playing privately in the other room, but embrace and passionately desire the climax, on-demand, through God-given psychedelic entheogens, that Fate makes us ingest so that God can experience through us his power and passion. Self-control transcendence is not merely comprehension of the Egodeath theory, Transcendent Knowledge.

Carnal and mystical knowledge are closely analogous. Reading doesn’t give carnal knowledge; that knowledge is a matter of experiencing. Reading Transcendent Knowledge provides some knowledge but Gnosis is the experience that requires combining textbook knowledge of Egodeath with the repeated, intentionally sought experience of the self-control vortex: excitement, trepidation, respect, enthusiasm.

Religion is reading the Egodeath theory and experiencing in loose cognition the pulling away of control of thoughts, in a sacred transcendent seizure, which is the experience of the Passion of Christ the king and sacrificial lamb of God provided by God to the Elect as a mythic figuration of accord and sacred marriage including repeated ongoing passionate climax of self-control overcoming. Through this passageway, opening, hole in our side, shall flow blood signifying new life, so that we have truly adult Knowledge and thrive, multiply, and prosper. May we climax in the sacred passion of self-control seizure many more times.

We walk as a two-nature male-and-female dyad, a pair — the transcendent uncontrollable thought-injector and the helpless psyche as thought-receiver — that is able to move in and out of the dance, the wrestling, the sacred state of onset of self-control seizure. This sacred kingly experience is our right in a nation of sovereign citizen-kings. Religious freedom means specifically the freedom to enjoy transcendent passion of self-control climax on demand, through psychedelic entheogens.

— Michael Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com, December 6, 2012: Drug Re-legalization Day
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6114 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 07/12/2012
Subject: Re: Self-control seizure: divine organ of climax ability & passionat
Love ode to dancing with the self-control seizure vortex, written by women:

Song: Get Me to the World on Time
Written by Annette Tucker with Jill Jones
Artist: The Electric Prunes
Release date: March 1967
Reached #27 on the U.S. pop charts. Excerpts transcribed accurately by & with notes by Michael Hoffman:

Here I go, higher, higher
Here I go, oh oh, oh oh! <== climax

The minute you walk in the room <== relating to the control vortex
I break into a sweat
My hands begin to shake so bad
Can’t light my cigarette

Then you start walkin’ toward me
And my glue comes all undone
If I could get my feet to move
I’d turn around and run

My pulse is beatin’ faster
And I’m headin’ for disaster <== control cancellation potential
Here I go, higher, higher
Here I go!!!

One kiss from you <== the vortex touches the suggestible mind, latching on
And my whole body starts actin’ strange
You shake up all my hormones
You put me through a change

This chemical reaction
Isn’t easy to define
You drive me to distraction
You disturb my peace of mind

You got me spinning like a top now
And I don’t know how to stop now

Is this what love’s all about <== love = desiring self-control seizure dynamics
Lately I feel so wigged-out
Wild sensations
Sweet frustrations <== desire for self-control cancellation dynamics
You get me goin’
And there’s no slowin’ me down

Whoa, here I go, oh, oh! <== climax

— Annette Tucker with Jill Jones


http://www.egodeath.com/MysticClimax.htm — sections:
Self-control seizure as a goal (post 55, Jun 27, 2001; http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath/message/55 )
Ego-death control-seizure as climax (post 64, June 29, 2001)
Mystic Climax Like S*xual Climax (posted as “Mystic climax has the same intensity/timing curve”, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath/message/1435 )
Mystic climax as a distinct innate potential (Jun 22, 2003)

https://www.google.com/search?q=climax+self-control+seizure

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2011/11/15/only-epilepsy-brings-more-activity-to-womens-brains-than-does-self-stimulation-to-orgasm/
Condensed by Michael Hoffman: “More activity exists in the brains of women during self-stimulation to org*sm than anything short of an epileptic seizure. It activates all of the major brain systems. We don’t know of any other behavioral process that is so powerful, except for an epileptic seizure.” About the author: Gary Stix writes about neuroscience for Scientific American, and was previously a science journalist at IEEE Spectrum, the flagship publication for the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers.


Delirium and epilepsy
Peter W. Kaplan
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3181626/
Condensed by Michael Hoffman:
“States of altered consciousness such as delirium and psychoses have long horrified humanity with the specter of loss of an individual’s sovereignty and self-control, carrying with it the intimation of passage towards death. Agitated states with altered awareness and components of excitation and delusion have evoked the perception of visitation by demons, spirits, or even divine influence, but often with the consequence of ostracism from society. This has led, even in an age of enlightenment, to relegation to insane asylums. Such conditions of insanity were recently approached as forms of illness, which were identifiable even if not successfully treatable. In the 20th century, scientific effort has been directed toward understanding delirium and researching its causes.”

“Epilepsy carried with it a similar societal view. These conditions often are intertwined in terms of both clinical features and common substrates and triggers. The term ‘epilepsy’, derived from the Greek epilambanein, arose from the concept that the individual was seized, gripped, or attacked by forces, thus presupposing a relatively circumscribed duration; while delirium comes from the Latin for “to leave the furrow,” representing a “leave-taking” of one’s senses.” — Peter W. Kaplan
Group: egodeath Message: 6115 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 07/12/2012
Subject: Re: Self-control seizure: divine organ of climax ability & passionat
[clarifications]
I identified (as a massive breakthrough around 2003) [Rucker’s ‘world line’] as the Heimarmene snake, and the branching [which is only implicitly alluded to in the Possiblism diagram] I realized in 2011 as the tree in mystic-state mythic metaphor, completing the Rosetta-stone translation of the snake-tree contrast together with “marble rock – flowing water” contrast, and [around 2001] the master-mytheme of ‘kingship’ [as personal control agency as considered in loosecog].

Rudy Rucker’s 1977 first edition of the 4th Dimension has a couple pages that contain [the words ‘branch’ and ‘worm’], but that’s the closest anyone got to recognizing this massive key breakthrough connection.
Group: egodeath Message: 6116 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Stabilizing control by mental-only non-metaphor understanding
To trigger the ego-transcending cybernetic seizure in order to effectively transcend one’s personal control-power, and then to safely preserve (save, rescue) viable control, in the loosecog state, one says the cybernetic prayer or transcendent idea:

“I acknowledge my profound absolute dependency on my fated pre-set worldline, and I trust in it, as I must, though it is obscure.”

Danger passes-over the personal control system this way, while increasing enlightenment about the dynamics of personal control. The mind this way effectively and safely comprehends and experiences its limits of personal control power, gaining full transcendent knowledge.

Effectiveness and safety increase each other; they fit together:
o The safe way of comprehending the limitations of personal control is also the effective way of comprehending the limitations of personal control.
o The effective way of comprehending the limitations of personal control is also the safe way of comprehending the limitations of personal control.


Other religions and sacrifice-demonstrations are works-based and ineffective.

The Historical Jesus fallacy is works-based salvation and cannot provide salvation. How are we saved; that is, how is the loose-cognitive mind and personal control system rescued from cybernetic instability, and regenerated into the transcendent mental model? The notion that we are saved due to the sacrifice of a historical Jesus is actually a false and ineffective, *works-based* attempt at salvation. It does not, and cannot, work.

Closer to truth and effectiveness is that we are saved by thinking of the metaphor and analogy of a mythic-only Jesus and by thinking of Abraham sacrificing a literal ram in place of his son (and future holy-kingdom leader) Isaac.

Even closer to the truth is that we are saved by thinking of the general metaphor or analogy of “the idea of sacrificing a creature that’s in a situation of control-cancellation like the mythic ram with horns caught in a possibility-bush or a mythic would-be rebel leader and king who willingly is sacrificed fastened to a possibility-tree, wooden cross, or branchless pole”.

Even closer to the truth is that we are saved by thinking non-metaphorically about the nullity of our personal control power in relation to our fated worldline that we are forced to trust in and rely on in faith and a certain kind of helpless dependency. That is the purest Salvation by Faith Not Works. You think that, if you are forcefully fated to think that, forced by fate and by Controller X. Any thought you think, you passively receive. To save yourself, put trust in your worldline — that will happen if your worldline forces you to do so.

I am saved because I put faith in God’s goodness toward me (… *if* God wills me to put faith in him). I decide to do this (… and God/Fate is that which forces me to decide whatever I end up deciding). To put faith in God and be saved, the action that you must exert is: passively be given (receive) faith-in-God (that is, conscious trust in your fate-forced worldline) from God/Fate. How can the mind demonstrate, or be made by Fate to demonstrate, that the mind consciously puts trust and dependency in its own worldline?

The mind is made to distrust its heimarmene-source, experience self-war and a paranoid bending-inward, thought-coercion pulling attention toward the vulnerability to the fated worldline. One is carried forward to the demonstration of personal non-control of thought (that is, the inability for personal control to deviate from the coming thought-stream), experiencing being profoundly overpowered at the very root of one’s source of thoughts (as a clear logical necessity), and then when the mind looks into the sun, into the cybernetic control-core logic, the mind acknowledges that it has no choice but to think the fate-forced thoughts.

The mind wants to retain this understanding, partly as a way of taming it safely, but also to understand transcendent knowledge, so the mind is given the question: how to demonstrate vulnerability to any thoughts? The logical answer is: one answer is, anything you do at all can be considered a demonstration of Zen understanding. Action proves nothing and certainly can lead to a unnecessarily short and impoverished life if you try to act out and demonstrate control chaos or control instability.

It is fair logic to sustain life, fully preserving egoic life-preserving values, while cancelling-out *by understanding* — not by action — nor by metaphor-understanding, but by pure direct understanding: like a formal statement like a prayer, saying “I acknowledge my profound absolute dependency on my fated pre-set worldline, and I trust in it, as I must, though it is obscure.”

The notion that comprehending the limits of personal control requires literal physical action such as harmfully violating control, is doubtful in terms of relevance, effectiveness, and longevity; arguably, it is crazy to think that transcendent realization requires any kind of payment, cost, price, or sacrifice other than transforming one’s mental model of self, control, and time. That is the only true sacrifice, the only true “demonstrative proof of understanding”: purely mental activity, mental testing of power to steer thinking, while developing and presenting to oneself the transcendent mental model.

No killing oneself is needed. No schizophrenic bodily self-harm is needed per the audible commands from some alien remote Controller X. No killing a magical historical Jesus is needed or relevant. No killing a son Isaac or a ram in his place, is needed or relevant. Not even a metaphor of sacrificing Jesus or a ram is needed, nor is that especially helpful or effective.

Ultimately, salvation or control-viability and transcendent knowledge require *understanding*, which can be helped by metaphors as long as it is made absolutely clear that what counts is the understanding, not the metaphor figure, and not some physical action. Mentally experimenting with intention, such as intending to fear and fight one’s heimarmene-rail of near-future thoughts, can help provide understanding.


Degrees of ineffective literalism when you attempt to demonstrate the limits of personal control

To complete the mental-model transformation to the transcendent mental model, the mind needs to effectively and safely demonstrate that it understands that personal control power is null with respect to the hidden fated source of thoughts; that it understands personal control-power nullity, unable to switch from the pre-existing fated branch of the person’s worldline to a virtually possible alternative branch in the frozen spacetime block.

To demonstrate that understanding, the person could do any of the following, listing the ineffective, works-based attempts first:

o Literally harm or violate yourself in some generic or representative physical way.

o Literally kill an animal or person representing yourself, in some generic or representative way.

o Think of harming yourself in some generic or representative way.

o Think of harming an animal or person representing yourself, in some generic or representative way; such as: think of the literal Abraham killing a literal ram trapped helplessly in a branching-future bush; think of God providing a literal historical Jesus who is willingly killed.

o Think of harming an animal or person representing yourself, in some generic or representative way; such as: think of the mythic-only Abraham killing a mythic-only ram trapped helplessly in a branching-future bush.

o Think of the abstract idea of violating or cancelling-out your control-power.

o Think of the abstract idea of formally cancelling-out a certain presumed aspect of your control-power, like a thorough advanced understanding of the core of the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence, without involving the extended theory which covers religious history and mystic-state metaphors.


It is possible for the personal control system to probe, test, or threaten itself and cause itself to seize in a destabilizing or chaos-like way, and it is possible for the mind to restore trust and order and have harmonious mercy on itself. Such episodes are given to the mind, as every thought is given to the mind obscurely from outside the personal control system.

The more metaphorical and physical ways have the advantage of concreteness, but the disadvantage of magical, works-based efficacy. The more abstract ways have the advantage of being non-physical, direct and non-metaphorical, and faith-based, or trust and commitment based, but the disadvantage of being abstract.


Cybernetic truth and stable viability strictly requires understanding, not action; the only works-based salvation is through the act of receiving understanding and trust and certification of completeness of demonstration of understanding. This doesn’t mean the mind needs to understand metaphor. Place yourself in a time before metaphor was invented. There’s no tale of Abraham and Isaac yet, nor of Jesus’ sacrifice. Or in a possible culture that has no such metaphors, similar to a Vulcan, Borg, or android culture.

What is the non-metaphorical, non-analogy-using way to conceptualize the dynamic of demonstrating understanding of nullity of personal control power and forceful dependency on the hidden thought-source? How can a person purely and directly demonstrate understanding of the puppethood of personal control-power? This is like asking how can you demonstrate understanding that change is frozen in place across time. It’s a category error to think that such “demonstration” is a matter of some physical action.

To demonstrate understanding, requires one action, a purely mental action, the action of understanding, which is the action of receiving understanding or receiving the action of displaying one’s understanding, where that displaying is purely mental.

How can we mentally, non-metaphorically display our understanding that change is frozen in place across time, and that personal control-power is puppet-like in relation to the hidden source of our eternally pre-existing fated thoughts? The goal is for the mind to fully grasp these and have full self-assurance of grasping these concepts, and to continue grasping them as long as possible. It is confusion and weakness to think that any physical action is required, on one’s own part or on the part of an sacrificial creature, such as sacrificing oneself, a literal ram, or a literal Jesus.

And it is mental confusion and weakness to think that some metaphor is required, such as the recent metaphor of sacrificing Jesus or Isaac’s ram. No physical action is needed. No metaphor is needed. And no self-originating act is needed. What’s needed is a non-physical, non-metaphorical, transcendently injected idea or understanding.

For rescue and preservation and salvation and escape while understanding relative puppethood and frozen preset worldlines, the mind must receive {trust in its obscure thought-source} along with receiving and reviewing {understanding of relative puppethood} and {understanding that worldlines are frozen and preset}.

From the active personal-controller-agent point of view: you must put trust in your obscure thought-source and you must commit to relying on your obscure thought-source, while understanding that you can make your personal control system catch on itself and seize into chaotic instability by not having that lower-level trust and reliance in its higher-level control-source, or by taking a paranoid, oppositional, alienated, disowned, or testing stance toward your uncontrollable higher control.

— Michael Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com, December 7, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6117 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Riding atop a horse, donkey, bull, ox
Per Stoic cybernetic heimarmene theory, you can distrust your higher hidden control-source and as a result, experience being dragged along by it forcibly, or, you can trust and identify with and affirm your higher hidden control-source and flow or ride along with it in harmony.

The horse that we ride — the donkey of Balaam that Balaam beat against and criticized, the horse of Paul that Paul fell off, and the donkey that Jesus harmoniously rode, and the horse riding up to the snake in a tree shown in some reliefs, or the ox ridden, or the bull of Mithras that Mithras overcomes, are analogous to the forceful pre-set pre-existing fated worldline that the self travels along, the hidden snake rail of heimarmene that we have no choice but to follow, no meta-choice; we are forced to make the choices and do the choosing-activity that fate eternally forces and causes us to at every moment along our frozen worldline from birth to death.

We ride the snake of our heimarmene worldline. We can fight this overpowering worldline, like Mars, at which point the worldline contains chaos and self-strife; or embrace and relate to this scary powerful worldline we are stuck with, like Venus, producing harmony and flow and full unified identification. The worldline is the vehicle through which Controller X injects our thoughts at every moment. The person riding the horse or donkey or snake-pulled chariot is shown above a snake.

In Eastern symbols, riding the ox and chasing it and riding it again. The horse is the moving self, the personal self-control system moving through time, controlled obscurely by the heimarmene-snake preset worldline rail. When you loosen the mind, you perceive the normally occluded, covered worldline, and you perceive your motion riding along that worldline: your horse or donkey carries you along that fate-forced, forcefully propelled worldline.

Ken Wilber’s “centaur stage” really means the perceiving of the moving-through-time illusion, like seeing that you are riding a horse along a track of heimarmene worldline, with no way to stop or freely steer that horse. If you cause trouble, the horses (bouncers) will throw you out of the recreational religious entheogen banquet funeral-club party. The horses at the wedding go out of control on wine, fighting against their own heimarmene-rail.

— Michael Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com, December 7, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6118 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Re: *Scientific* theory explaining altered-state revelation
Literalist, metaphor-based religion is harmful and must be prevented by the scientific Egodeath theory.

It is weak, and largely futile, and confusing and misleading, to try to secure understanding by working with physical actions of sacrifice and by working with metaphors of sacrifice. Non-physical, non-metaphor based *understanding* is the main thing: we proved in our religion of Christianity and other religions that metaphors are dangerously misleading when the entheogen is removed and the encoding is therefore forgotten.

Ken Wilber insists on forcing an evolutionary model onto history. I can agree with him this way: Greco-Roman antiquity understood Transcendent Knowledge and the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence, but, they packaged it badly, fusing transcendent knowledge together with physical sacrifice (the sin of salvation-through-works) and fusing transcendent knowledge together with mythic metaphor without effective emphasis of the non-metaphorical meaning (thus committing the sin of literalism, a kind of idol-worship including Bible idolatry).

The ultimate idolatry, worshipping idols carved by man instead of worshipping God, is the Historical Jesus fallacy, along with idolatrous worship of metaphors such as the metaphor of sacrificing the ram in place of Isaac, and the metaphor of sacrificing Jesus for our salvific regeneration. Literalist Christianity and the Historical Jesus fallacy, is idolatry and prevents salvation and regeneration into the transcendent mental model. Dependence on metaphors is almost as bad, even if they are recognized as visionary-state metaphors, almost preventing salvation and regeneration as much as idol-worship of Mr. Historical Jesus.

Equating religion with worship of literal physical celestial bodies is also far from the transcendent truth, and in practice prevents us from attaining transcendent knowledge. The only purely non-idolatrous, purely effective religion is the non-physical, non-metaphor-dependent (non-metaphor-based) Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence. So it is necessary to strive for purity of presentation: for maximum effectiveness at conveying Transcendent Knowledge, the scientific Core theory of Egodeath must be purely explicitly distinguished from the extended application to historical religion and mythic metaphor.

We tried wrapping Transcendent Knowledge in metaphor and in physical demonstration form. The result was a disaster and the modern scientific mind ought to recoil is disgust at the extreme misuse and barbaric ineffectiveness of metaphor. We must thoroughly comprehend the referent-meaning of metaphor in order to purify our thinking from metaphoric confusion. We must weed out metaphor from religious transcendent knowledge in order to save and redeem religious truth, from the polluting clutches of metaphoric confusion.

We must separate astronomy from astrology, and ultimately, re-integrate them while fully differentiating them. Differentiate and integrate. That is a Wilber-type idea. We *must* — to kill religious strife and gain transcendent knowledge — differentiate the referent meaning versus historical metaphor, and then, integrate the referent meaning with the metaphorical coverage — while fully retaining the distinction and differentiation. This is a scientific mission, my calling.

To maximize transcendent knowledge, we must eliminate-out the religious mythic metaphor, and then, map the pure scientific transcendent knowledge with the historical religious mythic metaphor, keeping our foot firmly on top of the neck of the mythic metaphor. Religious mythic metaphor is dangerous. This doesn’t mean that we should shove no-free-will in our children’s face. This doesn’t mean ripping the clothes off of the hidden mystery of the snake in the covered basket, heimarmene pulling our puppet strings, at the mercy of Controller X.

We can still use both the workaday egoic mental model and the transcendent mental model, saving the latter more for initiated adults. But we must not permit ever again, mystic metaphor to be mistaken as the referent. We must forevermore permanently kill the Historical Jesus fallacy and not permit such toxic delusion again, delusion which shuts-out and prevents transcendent knowledge (not “assisting through colorful metaphor”) and which leads to harmful religious wars (not that secular wars, or the fraudulent secular religion of drug prohibition, are any better).

We must ensure that metaphor is used to enhance the communication of an already strong, self-sufficient non-metaphorical scientific understanding. This is why it is not a luxury but is *mandatory* that we define — that I define — what it logically must mean to have a “scientific” explanatory theory of Transcendent Knowledge. We badly need a scientific model that is not at all metaphor-based, and that is strong enough to put metaphor in chains, to prevent metaphor from ever again taking over people’s minds and shutting out transcendent knowledge.

We must provide explicit transcendent knowledge in order to prevent degraded, degenerated literalism, which is harmful delusion. The Historical Jesus is a harmful, idolatrous delusion that robs us of our rightful transcendent knowledge and religious experiencing, and causes harm among Christians and among all religion. We must provide as scientific as possible a theory of transcendent knowledge in order to kill and prevent false, harmful religion such as literalist Christianity and literalist Islam and literalist Jewish religion.

We *must* have more intense psychedelic entheogenic experiencing per the Egodeath theory, so that we shut out and preventatively inoculate against literalist and clueless metaphor-based religion ever again. We must given the Enlightenment its opportunity: scientific religion to shut out dangerous travesty of pseudo-religion such as that which uses the Historical Jesus notion.

— Michael Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com, December 7, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6119 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Re: Stabilizing control by mental-only non-metaphor understanding
[clarification]
o …

o Think of harming an animal or person representing yourself, in some generic or representative way; such as: think of the mythic-only Abraham killing a mythic-only ram trapped helplessly in a branching-future bush; [think of the mythic-only Jesus being willingly sacrificed to represent personal control-power nullity followed by restoration of practical control agency.]

o …

My point at that place in the scale of metaphoricity is that it’s better to comprehend Jesus as a mythic-only representation of personal metaphysical non-control realization than to misunderstand the Jesus figure as a literal historical individual, but, scientifically, it’s even clearer and better to base your understanding on a non-metaphorical explanatory model of personal metaphysical non-control realization.

Separate from that, off to the side, you must be able to connect the Jesus mythic metaphor to the referent meaning in the scientific model — mapping out from your scientific model which you identify with and rely on, out to various peripheral illustrative metaphors which are firmly bracketed-off and identified as *not* being the ultimate referent, but merely an analogous roughly isomorphic metaphor symbol-system.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6120 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Re: *Scientific* theory explaining altered-state revelation
We must give the Enlightenment its opportunity to reach its potential: provide science-based intense loose-cognitive experiencing and a non-metaphor based relevant theory of what’s thereby revealed about self, time, and control, in order to preventatively shut out pseudo-religion, which is a dangerous travesty of religion, such as versions of Christianity which use the Historical Jesus notion.

The sickness of bad, pseudo-religion is not cured by irrelevant reductionist scientism, but rather, by cognitive-level, loose-cognitive mode, science-based religion, which thoroughly explains the garbled and over-grown historical religious mythic metaphors, as an emphatically demoted, peripheral area that is distinct from the Core Egodeath theory proper.

We must despise and disdain reliance on mythic metaphor, like a cute gremlin or a pretty weed that must not be let loose lest it take over minds again and prevent bona fide religious experiencing and religious understanding — Transcendent Knowledge. In the name of Transcendent Knowledge, we must banish and put down, and thoroughly map and explicate, all mythic metaphor, strictly subservient to the scientific explanatory model of what is revealed in the intense loose cognitive state.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6121 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Re: Riding atop a horse, donkey, bull, ox
Zeus Meilichios (Zeus the appeasable, friendly, satisfiable) is the cthonic aspect of Zeus, which means (I’m the one to discover and figure out and explain): Zeus Meilichios is the Heimarmene aspect of Zeus. Cthonic means under the earth. What is under the earth is the hidden heimarmene-snake-rail that secretly governs our lives and thoughts and destiny. We ride our heimarmene rail through time as riding a donkey, as in Apuleius’ mystic enlightenment tale The Golden Ass: The Transformations of Lucius.

— Michael Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com, December 8, 2012
Group: egodeath Message: 6122 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Re: Self-control seizure: divine organ of climax ability & passionat
That which is uncontrollable, inevitability, that shapes and constrains human life, was equivalently labeled as: Zeus, Fate/Fatum/Heimarmene, the gods, god, the god, the divine, the godlike.

“the gods were not a collectivity of individuals with individual wills, but rather the uncontrollable and inevitable element shaping and constraining human life and human lives[7]. This element could be spoken of indifferently as “the gods,” “god,” “the god,” “the divine,” the godlike” (daimonion), “Zeus,” and “fate.””
— page 67, On Greek Religion, Robert Parker.

7. Cf. H. S. Versnel in _Sacrifice dans l’antiquite_, 171-79.

“The system created a fragmentation of the divine figure. Zeus Meilichios was one aspect of Zeus, which was treated as an independent figure. Zeus Meilichoios was portrayed as a gigantic snake.”

The sacrifice to Meilichios was a holocaust of pigs (representing oneself; humans, or, personal control power), which was wholly consumed in fire and not shared by the votaries, “a dread renunciation to a dreadful power”. One makes a demonstration of annihilation in renunciation of one’s claim to have power over Fatedness, over one’s worldline. My God-given, fated worldline, is what controls me; my autonomous claim to power is emphatically not what controls my future, my ending up in one possibility-branch versus another.

This sacrifice to the Heimarmene aspect of Zeus is a total affirmation of the pre-existing single-future eternal timeless frozen block universe, and averts and wards-off one’s own higher (ecstatic-state, Dionysus-possessed) mind’s self-destructive disproof of one’s control power, as opposed to holding on to the mental claim of wielding autonomous personal control power.

To affirm autonomous personal control power is to lead to disproof and self-destruction, mental contradiction and chaotic war against oneself, but to instead affirm the block universe is to achieve peace and mental harmony, propitiating the transcendent demand for destruction of self-contradiction.

“Meilichios” means “Easy-to-be-entreated”; merciful, friendly, gracious, kindness, soothing, propitiation — implying a prior anger which must be appeased.
“Maimaktes” means the raging, wrathful, blood-thirsty.
Harrison, p. 17.

When you enter into loose cognition and consider autonomous personal control power, this leads to testing and disproving that claim, leading to self-destruction and control instability. Life after enlightenment requires sacrifice of delusion of personal control autonomy, thus (the idea of) sacrificing the piglet (representing one’s own claim to personal control autonomy) purchases continued life, now with enlightenment added. “Fertility” must be understood as “giving oneself permission to continue living” after having seen the lie of autonomous personal control power.

Sacrifice of one’s anti-heimarmene claim brings life and renewed vigor. Festivals celebrate this sacrifice of the false self as bringing continued, justified life and fecundity — not merely fertility of people, animals, and crops, but the very possibility of continued personal existence. The general concept of fertility in religious thought represents, above all, justification of continued ongoing personal existence after egoic personal control power has been fully recognized as illusory and false, though practically, one must continue relying on egoic-mode thinking.

How can the pursuer of truth and self-knowledge tolerate continuing to live, after seeing that their mental foundation is a lie, a self-contradiction, an illusion, a falsehood?

The gods are all-powerful and are bound by fate. Zeus cannot save the life of his son, because that would cause disorder and unbalance of the cosmos. p. 377, Encyclopedia of European Peoples

Perhaps it’s not even a matter of whether this ego-killing logic is true and watertight, but is more a matter of reporting a most-fascinating and stimulating and revitalizing capacity of the mind. Approach this mental dynamic from the perspective of Cognitive Phenomenology (or perhaps Cognitive Psychology) rather than only analytic logic. People in fact experience these dynamics of self-challenging of personal control power, where one’s hand is forced to violate oneself, threatened to self-harm.

Then in fact trippers throughout history have sacrificed their claim to autonomous control power, and have thereby restabilized their control, making friends with their heimarmene worldline, and gone on to live and have a future and have children trippers who face the same potential and problem.

Do not think of this dynamic as possibly being “error” or “avoidable”, or worship at the temple of Quantum Mechanics to avoid this capacity of the mind. We must instead — with me as captain at the collective helm — set the controls for the heart of the sun. Instead of striving to explain away or do away with this capacity, we must figure out how to point our ship straight into the center of the cyclone, how to successfully become caught in the Death Star tractor beam, how to penetrate the event horizon and jump into the fire.

The task at hand is not how to avoid the fire, not how to avoid cybernetic destabilization potential, but rather, how to have interaction with our cybernetic self-control contradiction potential. How do you drop the bomb accurately into the center of the Death Star of egoic control logic, demolishing it? I am Godel striving to prove unprovability, striving to cause the egoic control system to hang. How can we successfully throw a wrench into the logic of personal control power, causing the whole damn thing to blow up? And how have people done this successfully throughout history?

How does that entire dynamic work? That is the task at hand which I have accomplished: the first modern explicit non-metaphor-dependent explanatory model of the mental sequence that is the peak ego death and rebirth experience, our climactic cybernetic self-control seizure potential and restabilization potential, which is the logical core at the heart of religious experiencing, which is the main concern reflected in myth, cultic sacrifice, and mystery initiation.

How to drop a bomb into the heart of egoic control logic, safely, and go on to build an entire society that understands this mental capacity? That is my project of the Egodeath theory, that is what Transcendent Knowledge is about. The Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence is not so much about ontological truth, nor epistemology, but rather, explaining and giving us fullest access to the cognitive phenomenology of religious experiencing.

This perspective and motivation relaxes the logical demands slightly, enough to enable brushing aside the thousand objections to each component of the reasoning. Our goal is not to avoid this train of reasoning, but to steer straight into it — to first believe in it and test it, see how well it accomplishes the dynamic that is reported. The experience is true; it really happens. Is the block universe, wrath, and mercy all true and what we are forced to believe? That doesn’t matter.

Our ability to challenge our personal control power, encounter wrath and life-violating danger, and then recover, is what matters — along with understanding historical religious myth about this dynamic. I have taught people how to cybergasm and how to recognize historical religious myth as related to cybergasm. I must stay true to the inner logic of my system and explaining how it explains religious mythemes. That’s what people report, experience, and do.

It is irrelevant to try to avoid all this, to punch holes in the logic such as saying “QM provides a hazy alternative to all this.” Lobotomy provides an alternative to my theory, as well. The goal is successfully model what is revealed in loosecog and explain how religious myth expresses that. The goal is not to evade these dynamics through neurocognitive science nor through QM’s sophisticated confusion. Explain, not explain away or evade.

Give better, increased, amplified access to ego death cognitive dynamics, which inherently means safety as well. Safer access to egoic control destruction enables increased access to egoic control destruction. I teach how to lay down your life as a control-agent and how to take it up again.


Cygnus X-1, from A Farewell to Kings, by Neil Peart
excerpts, for scholarly study

There lurks a mysterious, invisible force
The black hole
Invisible to telescopic eye
The star that would not die

All who dare to cross her course
Are swallowed by a fearsome force
Through the void to be destroyed
Or is there something more?
Atomized at the core or through the astral door, to soar

Headed for the heart of Cygnus headlong into mystery

The x-ray is her siren song
My ship cannot resist her long
Nearer to my deadly goal
Until the black hole gains control

Every nerve is torn apart
[yet, irregular heartbeat from heavy loosecog continues on]

I see the gods in battle rage on high,
Thunderbolts across the sky.
I cannot move, I cannot hide,
I feel a silent scream begin inside.

Then all at once the chaos ceased.
A stillness fell, of sound and peace.
The warriors felt my silent cry
And stayed their struggle, mystified.

Apollo was astonished; Dionysus thought me mad.
We will call you Cygnus, the god of Balance you shall be.

— The Professor


Zeus’ son is one’s childish claim to autonomous control power, a delusion which implies the ability to steer into other branches of possible futures other than the fated branch of one’s worldline. If you hold onto such a claim, you can — in loose cognition — demonstrate and prove that such a claim leads to self-contradiction, control instability, and cybernetic chaos. The original God (the paradigmatic founding father at the beginning of our collective culture) battles the chaos-monster and sacrifices his son to attain control-stability and continue existing, to then go on to be the progenitor of oneself.

My very existence relies on my advanced tripper great grandfather and father having sacrificed and renounced their control-wrecking claim to wield autonomous self-control power. Had they held onto the claim of personal control power in the peak state, they would’ve harmed themselves and I wouldn’t have been born. Continued viable life, fertility, requires control stability, which requires dropping the claim of personal control autonomy — to hold onto the claim of personal control autonomy is to lead to cybernetic disaster, real self-termination.

The problem isn’t fear, or freaking out, or feeling threatened by one’s own self-challenging thoughts, so much as committing harm. A controversial claim is that one *must* experience self-threat, self-wrath, or self-challenging, to be enlightened. You must challenge and test your claim to be able to avoid the fated branch that your donkey-on-a-rail carries you toward. What if your fated branch contains a fearsome psychotic control-violation demonstration, how can you avoid that?

In loosecog, the mind forcefully experiences all aspects of this thinking, together: you feel and perceive the spacetime block point of view, you feel the lack of control power, you feel your thinking forced, compelled, attracted to, and pulled into this control-vortex thinking — but not just “thinking”, rather, forceful experiencing. The mind has this organ of seizure-thinking, this capacity to self-seize, to overpower itself.

If it does you can’t; to avert that disaster you sacrifice your claim to have the power to steer away from your destiny. This *type* of reasoning about self, control, and time, is the true explanation of the origin of foundational mythic themes of battling the serpentine chaos-monster at the beginning of civilization.

— Michael Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com, December 7, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6123 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Re: Self-control seizure: divine organ of climax ability & passionat
Clarification: these sentences belong together:


What if your fated branch contains a fearsome psychotic control-violation demonstration, how can you avoid that? If it does you can’t; to avert that disaster you sacrifice your claim to have the power to steer away from your destiny.


— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6124 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Re: Riding atop a horse, donkey, bull, ox
Taraxippos is a circular altar at a passageway in the race-course of Olympia. This altar and passageway terrifies the horses; they are seized by a strong and sudden fear and disturbance for no apparent reason. The chariots crash and the charioteers are injured. Therefore the drivers offer sacrifices and pray to Taraxippos to be propitious to them.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Taraxippus+horse-disturber

The donkey or horse is the egoic control system that is secretly propelled among the fated heimarmene-rail. We can think of Dionysus’ ivy leaves or the thorns of Jesus’ crown as rail teeth that forcefully pull you through the roller coaster of your pre-existing, fate-locked life. Is this how reality works? We don’t know anything certainly, such as Newtonian physics, but this is definitely how the mystic ego-death seizure and reset most readily and powerfully occurs, and how we correctly understand the meaning of myth as reportage of the cognitive dynamics in the loose cognitive state.

This type of reasoning is how to provoke your mind, your heart of personal control power, to seize and reset. I have blown open Cognitive Phenomenology of the altered state and revealed this Cognitive Phenomenology as the primary subject of the history of religious myth, including altered-state poetic themes.

The Egodeath theory provides an endless wealth of successful, meaningful, coherent interpretation of countless elements of religious myth. My decryption algorithm opens up the ability to read countless descriptions of mythemes, like deciphering the hieroglyphic language. I could easily sit here all day and explain the meaning of connection upon connection in the studies of Greco-Roman myth and Christian mythic, mystic-state theology.

— Michael Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com, December 8, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6125 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Re: Lyrics: The Spirit of Radio (Rush/Peart)
It might be possible to engineer a double-pronunciation, such as “invisible railways crackle with life”, by recording it sung both ways, and then mixing the two takes together.

I have identified double-pronunciations in Rock lyrics including:

Why am I so shy when I’m inside you / beside you?
I get high / can’t hide
invisible railways/airwaves crackle with life
thoughts/doubts may arise though
kill/cure my friends
kindness that can kill/cure

I’ve read others note “get high”, but the rest are my independent discoveries and I don’t know of others noting these. I’m the only one to write about double-pronunciation in general, so far as I’ve read, particularly with a focus on allusions to mystic-state cognitive phenomenology.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6126 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Re: Lyrics: The Spirit of Radio (Rush/Peart)
At 1:32, the sung lyric sounds glitchy, like two takes combined: railways & airwaves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Juv5Ifs2fFY

The clueless-as-a-rock morons who used to state that Rush is a philosophy band therefore wouldn’t use drugs, explained to me that professional studio engineers have poor control over their equipment, thus explaining these accidental glitches. But I posted a printed interview in which Rush says they take drugs all the time, constantly. As if that was unclear. Morons!

http://egodeath.com/signalclips.htm

Thank God we don’t rely on such people to figure things out. They puzzle over what “Purple Haze” refers to. It comes as a surprise to them, the idea that the song refers to acid. No way! You think so? [facepalm] What is our collective IQ, 50? Could you possibly be any more clueless? You are ready to become an academic scholar of religious myth. Requirement: must live under a rock.

— Michael Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6127 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Re: Riding atop a horse, donkey, bull, ox
Images of 3 worshippers of Zeus Meilichios as a giant heimarmene-snake:

http://google.com/search?q=Zeus%20Meilichios&tbm=isch
Group: egodeath Message: 6128 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 08/12/2012
Subject: Impotent, flaccid Transpersonal Theory
Ken Wilber fails to teach you how to cybergasm. His system, like that of Acharya S, is true so far as it goes, which is not all the way to effective climax of self-control seizure and reset. Other models of myth and religion likewise fail to bring you to the climax of your potential for self-cancellation of your power of control.

My Egodeath theory is precisely that system of technique and explanation which gets you to the self-control seizure climax through the shortest, most direct path possible. And does so safely, enabling cybernetic reset of personal control power, now enlightened about its limitations, so as to continue living and thriving, now in a transcendent mentality.

— Michael Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com, December 8, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6129 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 10/12/2012
Subject: Re: *Scientific* theory explaining altered-state revelation
Rudolf Bultmann’s call for demythologizing Christianity is fulfilled by my Egodeath theory, which is divided into a scientific non-metaphor-based core theory and a metaphor-mapping peripheral theory.

My non-mythic-dependent scientific explanatory model of what’s revealed in the core theory of Transcendent Knowledge, fits with Bultmann, who advocated Christianity with all myth removed. Instead of depending on myth, the core Theory incorporates the loose cognitive state, and the peripheral Theory maps out to myth, which is kept firmly distinct from the Core theory. Theoretically, Christians of the future — after Revelation has been fulfilled — understand all brands of myth. After the Bible history completes, is the world post-Christian?

To read the Bible, means, in full, that you understand how the mythic metaphor mapping to the referent meaning works, and, that you understand how the referent meaning maps to or is identical with the non-mythic, scientific model of what’s revealed in religious revelation in the loose cognitive state, regarding self, time, and control. Figure out what’s revealed in religious revelation through studying self, time, and control, without negligible reference to religious myth, as I did October 1985-January 1988, and then identify the mapping of that core theory to historical religious myth, as I did mainly around 2001. Thus my core and extended Egodeath theory enables people to read the Bible’s underlying referent meaning, through translating the mythic metaphor analogies.

Therefore we must say, resolving the Jaspers/Bultmann dispute, that demythologizing is a matter of separating-out and fully grasping both myth and the referent of myth, as completely differentiated layers. Religious myth expresses a worldmodel indirectly, through a system of analogy. Jesus spoke in allegories; we have to decipher the allegory, such that we turn to look behind the mind, and perceive our previous errors about moral culpability, and perceive that God has covertly been in control of our thoughts the whole time even when we mistook ourselves as autonomous moral control agents.

Insofar as we end up holding demythologized Christianity, that’s identifiable as Christianity, this must mean that we end up holding *both* the Christian myth in one hand firmly, and holding the purely non-mythical referent meaning, now fully revealed, in the other hand. We don’t end up with Jaspers, holding only the Christian myth; we don’t end up with Bultmann, holding only the referent meaning. We end up holding both, separately, separated-out so that we can now perceive the referent meaning.

The non-mythic meaning of the Bible is:

God makes his followers enter the loose cognitive state and perceive God as being in control of their thinking across time. This forms a community that is informed by justice and non-oppression, a community-network which is distinct from the social-political-economic system of Caesar and other mundane rulers and their mystic-state metaphor-based propaganda that props up their oppressive, unjust honor-shame hierarchy and aristocratic divine rights of kings and popes oppressively lording it over the peasants and mercantiles.

— Michael Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com, December 9, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
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Part 2: Bultmann reviews, tempered by my ideas.

Kerygma and Myth: A Theological Debate
Rudolf Bultmann & 5 critics
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0061300802

Per Bultmann:

The radical attempt to demythologize the New Testament is a perfect parallel to St. Paul’s and Luther’s doctrine of justification by faith alone apart from the works of the Law.

The cosmology of the New Testament is essentially mythical in character. The world is viewed as a three-storied structure, with the earth in the centre, the heaven above, and the underworld beneath. Heaven is the abode of God and celestial beings–the angels. The underworld is hell, the place of torment. Even the earth is more than the scene of natural, everyday events; it is the scene of the supernatural activity of God and his angels on the one hand, and of Satan and his demons on the other. These supernatural forces intervene in the course of nature and in all that men think and will and do. Miracles are by no means rare.

The end will come very soon, and will take the form of a cosmic catastrophe. It will be inaugurated by the woes of the last time. Then the Judge will come from heaven, the dead will rise, the last judgment will take place, and men will enter into eternal salvation or damnation.

It is impossible, and would be senseless, for Christian preaching to expect modern man to accept the mythical view of the world. There is nothing specifically Christian in the mythical view of the world as such. It is simply the cosmology of a pre-scientific age. An Existentialist [loose-cognitive state experiential -mh] interpretation is the only solution. The Bible shows me a way of understanding my own existence [control-agency acting across time -mh], in the form of a message which addresses me personally.


Myth & Christianity: An Inquiry Into The Possibility Of Religion Without Myth
Karl Jaspers, Rudolf Bultmann
http://amazon.com/o/asin/1591022916

My condensing of the blurb:
Bultmann’s attempt to divest Christianity of its mythical components and make sense of it in more modern terms. Jaspers rejects the premise that a religion can or should be understood without its mythical framework; myth is an irreplaceable form of symbolic communication. Bultmann holds that moderns in the scientific tradition reject biblical texts because of the miraculous and supernatural content [loose cognitive state analogies designed for meaning-flipping -mh]. Per Bultmann, the scholarly, scientific study of the Bible is the way to reveal its true message, distinct from the supernatural trappings [UI skin -mh]. They dispute application of the principle ‘justification by faith’ to myth.


My condensing of A Certain Bibliophile’s review:
Introduction by R. Joseph Hoffmann covering the rise of liberal theology in the nineteenth century. Hermeneutics as applied to religious myth.

Demythologization divests religious meaning and intent from the original myths in which they are couched. The Ascension and the Virgin Birth are religious myths that mean something, but the religious content is ensconced in the language of the miraculous, which modern thinking views as ridiculous and impossible. Therefore, these myths need to be reconfigured, divested of their Biblical form and given a structure which is makes getting at their meaning and significance possible for someone living in the modern era.

Jaspers sees the element of myth as indispensable from the content of religious belief itself. Reading these myths without their mythical structures is impossible. A religion can’t be understood apart from its mythical origins. The topology of the origin myths is essential to our understanding. Religious myths are not there to provide us with a decoding project. Cutting away myth simultaneous causes the disappearance of the religious message.

Per Jaspers, Bultmann’s project of demythologization is a sanitizing project that fails to understand myth as an essential vehicle for apprehending and describing the transcendent. Jaspers comes close to Northrop Frye’s “The Great Code: The Bible and Literature,” which asserts that modern attempts to read the Bible are often foiled because we no longer read and write in the mythical. Our system of expression in the modern era is empirical and positivistic. One cannot read the Bible without myth, since it is written in myth. Bultmann’s project is scientism, an attempt to present religion without being accused of foolish mythologies.

The Great Code: The Bible and Literature
Northrop Frye
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0156027801
1981
“the Bible as redeeming history with a visionary poetic perspective that joins science in its understanding of man’s nature”

My condensing of reviewer Arch Llewellyn:
Per Frye, the Bible is literature and myth. The chain of typological anticipations in this literature doesn’t culminate in Israel or Jesus or Revelation, but continues past the book of Revelation and the final events into our own lives, waking us up to our radical freedom. Frye treats the Bible as a unity which utilizes the Hebrew Torah as a typological precursor for the Christian Messiah.


My condensing of Steven Propp’s review of Myth & Christianity:
Jaspers argues that myth is a code language, a cipher, referring to transcendence; myth is not about a mere tangible presence. He says Bultmann alternates between empirical, philological exegesis (the historical investigation of religion) and a theological appropriation of religion (the primary comprehension of faith) — these contradict each other.

Bultmann replies that a corpse cannot come back to life or rise from the grave, that there are no demons and no magic causality. It is not feasible to explain the Resurrection of Jesus in the flesh, demons, or magic causality. Jaspers says redemptive history must be tested existentially, Bultmann replies “How is this done?”


Jesus Christ and Mythology
Rudolf Bultmann
http://amazon.com/o/asin/0334046300
1941
Blurb:
He was criticized as abandoning the essence of Christianity. How Christianity can be restated without the myths.

My condensing of reviewer Steven Propp:
Rudolf Bultmann’s 1941 essay “New Testament and Mythology” (in _Kerygma and Myth_) held that the heart of the preaching of Jesus Christ is the Kingdom of God. The Kingdom of God is a spiritual community joined together by obedience to the will of God which rules in their wills. The Kingdom of God is a realm which is spiritual but within the world.

Jesus expected that this would take place in the immediate future, and that the arrival of that age could already be perceived in the signs and wonders which he performed, especially in his casting out of demons. The inauguration of the Kingdom of God is a tremendous cosmic drama.

Reviewer Sylveste:
Strips away a lot of the trappings of the Bible to get to the heart of its message.

My condensing and clarification of reviewer Jesse Rouse:
The scriptural account of Jesus is clouded in mythology. We must de-mythologize Jesus, stripping the myth from the referent meaning. Knowledge is about mystical intuition or vision, a mystical union with Christ as ruler. This mystical truth is self-knowledge. The question of God and the question of oneself are identical. We de-mythologize New Testament history to understand the possibilities of personal human life and human existence.

God acts within worldly events. The action of God is hidden but can be perceived by the eye of mystic faith. The crucifixion as atonement is a mystic-state event.

Jesus Christ is a messianic figure of truth only in the realm of faith and mystical experience, which is not built upon historical reality, but is the mystic-experiencing collective of his followers. He clears the way for us in his subjection to wrath and then mercy (rescue, pass-over of the threat, salvation, averting wrath, purchase of freedom from certain destruction), like the knife passing over Isaac enables his descendents to exist. We have faith in God’s benevolence and power, though God withholds himself from direct view and observation. We trust in Christ as the Lord, the ruler, our protector, our paradigm; our wills are in his will and we form the mystically redeemed kingdom of God.

End of Part 2, condensed reviewer excerpts.
— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 6130 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 10/12/2012
Subject: Re: *Scientific* theory explaining altered-state revelation
[clarification]
Figure out what’s revealed in religious revelation through studying self, time, and control, [with] negligible reference to religious myth, as I did October 1985-January 1988, and then identify the mapping of that core theory to historical religious myth, as I did mainly around 2001.

[expanded:]


The following is the ultimate referent meaning of the Bible, expressed directly and scientifically, non-mythically, non-metaphorically:

God makes his followers ingest cognitive loosening chemicals and enter the loose cognitive state and perceive God as being in control of their thinking across time, in a way that forcefully coerces and demonstratively threatens personal control power, but then forces the follower to fully trust in their source of thoughts instead of distrusting and fighting against it, alienated from it. This act of trusting the revealed hidden uncontrollable source of our thoughts permits subsequent use of the disproved or circumscribed personal control power. This self-control seizure climax and release, among all people at all times who hear the mythic allegory of God’s kingdom, forms a cross-time society or community that is informed by justice and non-oppression.

This community-network is distinct from the social-political-economic system of Caesar and other mundane rulers and their mystic-state metaphor-based propaganda that props up their oppressive, unjust honor-shame hierarchy and aristocratic divine rights of kings and popes oppressively lording it over the peasants and mercantiles.


Just as I myself realized yesterday and posted about, Bultmann points out that demythologizing the New Testament is required, per the doctrine of justification by faith alone; mythology-fused Christianity amounts to works-based salvation; superstition, degraded magical thinking and irrelevancies that displace and obscure the actual meaning and real referent of Christian salvation.

Permanent life-sustaining salvation and mental purification means attaining full mature mental control integrity and a viable ongoing future. To gain this salvation and mental cleansing-away of self-contradiction and self-battling, you must, specifically pay *this* price: you must acceptably renounce your claim to autonomous control-power over your thoughts and actions, and acceptably perfect trust in and reliance on your pre-given heimarmene-rail. *That* is how we are saved; that is “salvation by faith”. Salvific faith is strictly a mental, non-metaphor-based act, of trusting your given fate, and that which gives you your fate. Any other attempt amounts to a futile irrelevant magical-thinking works-based salvation attempt.

You can *accompany* that act of faith with a metaphor such as the idea of sacrificing a bush-nullified ram in place of proving your ability to violate and harm your self-control. But it’s not the thinking of the metaphor that saves you; it’s the placing of faith in your fated worldline, given to you by the Creator, that preserves your control-viability while cleansing your mind of self-contradiction, producing Transcendent Knowledge about self, time, and control.

It is false to think that we must have a sacrificed historical Jesus. It is a myth to think that our salvation requires the idea of a bloody sacrifice. Actually, the referent underlying mechanism of how Christianity saves us, cannot require any analogy, metaphor, or myth, or magical sacrificial spilling of blood. The idea of sacrificing something in place of

We must commit *some kind* of demonstrative self-destruction to prove that we fully understand and recognize the nullity of our personal control power with respect to the overwhelming power of the pre-set heimarmene-rail which gives us our thoughts.

These 3 are the same:
o To demonstrate our understanding of our personal control limits, we must think a specific (non-metaphorical) thought; we must mentally repudiate our childish thinking’s implicit claim to wield personal control power over which branching future possibility we end up in.
o The myth of Isaac and bush-tangled-ram; refers to the above.
o The myth of the willingly crucified and then revived sacred king; refers to the above.

Salvation is free; salvation occurs through faith, not through the works of thinking of an allegory of harming an animal or person; nor through actually harming an animal or harming one’s future self. The true specific price of salvation from self-control violation, to gain continued viable personal control and attain perfect mental non-contradiction, you must think a thought: “I repudiate my claim to wield autonomous control power over my future thoughts and actions, and I must rely on and trust in the hidden Controller X and my frozen pre-existing heimarmene-railway.”

Thinking of some analogous allegory or myth such as Jesus dying on the cross, or the idea of sacrificing a bush-caught ram representing your previously deluded child-thinking control power, brings about salvation and restabilization and subsequent viable control-life because thinking of the analogous myth causes you to think the referent thought — it’s the referent thought that is the humility and dependence-attitude faith that saves you.

You are saved by faithful trusting dependency and renunciation of your former claim to a certain kind of power. You are *not* saved by harming your future or by harming an animal, nor by thinking of the myth of harming an animal or sacrificing a savior figure. It is idolatry to think that your salvation depends on you thinking some myth, or committing some harmful proof-demonstration act, some magical work such as harming your future.

You are saved by your faith and trust and renunciation of your naive childish claim to control what your future thoughts are, your claim to have the power to make your future be one scenario-branch or a different scenario-branch. You have no such type of power; your future scenario-branch is and shall be what it already has been created as. You are helplessly dependent on the timeless Creator of your future thoughts, the Creator of your pre-set, pre-existing, unchangeable heimarmene-rail.

— Michael Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com, December 9, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6131 From: jdcasten Date: 10/12/2012
Subject: Re: I mention and cite your work in my new book…
Yes! This is somewhat uncanny for me… even though we may have differing takes on “Cybernetic Revelation”… again, we do have some common ground too.

Good thing you didn’t trademark that, or I might be in trouble!

But I did find this 1974 reference to the phrase, in a more political context:

http://books.google.com/books?id=Ee4RAQAAIAAJ&q=%22cybernetic+revelation%22 

Thanks,

JD Casten

http://casten.postegoism.net 


— In egodeath@yahoogroups.com, “Michael Hoffman” <mike@…> wrote:
>
> My linked posting from September 21, 1995:
>
> Coming soon:
>
>
> THE CYBERNETIC REVELATION
> Deconstruction of Self-Control
>
>
> gathering topics such as:
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> Hyperfrozen Hyperfreedom
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> Virtual Freedom and the Virtual Ego
>
> Predetermination or ‘Fate’: A Simpler Proposition than Determinism
> (‘Predictable-ism’)
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> Acid Rock – The Authentic Modern Mystery-School
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> Hypothetical Realism – Anything Other than My Present Experiencing
> Might or Might Not Exist
>
> Uh oh — The Terror Is Beginning Again, and There Is No Way to Avoid
> Playing into the Hands of the Future
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> Shining the Psychedelic Spotlight On Cognitive Self-Control
> Cybernetics
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> Armchair Conjectures about Cybernetic Freakout
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> The Taboo Against Alchemical Introspection
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> What Transgression Lies in Store for a Temporarily Psychotic Morality
> Puppet?
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> Control Stability and the Limits to Self-Determination
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> Fate, Predetermination, and the Block Universe
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> Homeostatic Equilibrium and Catastrophic State-Shift
>
> — Michael Hoffman, 1995
> http://www.egodeath.com
>
Group: egodeath Message: 6132 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 10/12/2012
Subject: Re: *Scientific* theory explaining altered-state revelation
How can I *fully* purify my mind of egoic control thinking? How can I be fully justified in continuing to carry myself through life? How can I prove that I Believe and have Faith in no-free-will? Shall I try to prove my ability to crash my control power against itself every week? Shall I sacrifice a bush-nullified ram every week? Does it cost one piglet, like I kill in my place in the enlightened Mysteries of Eleusis?

How many pigs, rams, or only-sons do I need to sacrifice to prove to myself that I have fully renounced the self-contradictory claim to wield egoic control power? How can I guarantee that my mind has achieved full transcendent knowledge? How can I prevent my ego-dead ghost from returning again and causing control-chaos instability, that curse, that thorn in my side which is my sacred disease epileptic cybernetic self-control seizure climax cybergasm potential? How can we permanently kill ego *dead* forever and quit forgetting that glimpse of comprehension that we see (and recoil from, for self-preservation)? How can I stop being reborn into deluded egoic thinking, and permanently hang onto cybernetic enlightenment about the nullity of personal control power?

Thus the idea and the functional working or mechanism of the idea of “Jesus is a once-for-all-time perfect final sacrifice” — no more paying evil collaborationist priests on an installment plan and refresher plan for salvation. We are thus justified in continuing to live as control agents, now purified, perfected, finished, completed, forever; no more need to prove that I can threaten my own self-control with instability and self-violating contradiction. I can be friendly with my egoic control system now that I am justified in considering it to be completely transcended.

Even by relying on the Hellenistic joke that Jesus — docetism — the guy in the Turin shroud on the cross, didn’t actually die, but trusted in his fate, and lived to walk out from among the dead. He didn’t need to be literally killed, in the canonical very late-written Gospel tale, but he only needed to *seem* to die, to *appear* to die, and that is sufficient as an analogy for our price we must pay to purchase mental purification and justification as placing full faith in our God-given heimarmene-rail.

Jesus according the New Testament Gospel tale, didn’t actually die, but only *seemed* to die, and by such logic, by analogy, neither do we need to prove our self-cancellation, in order to be considered fully justified and purified, perfected, completed, forever, a-thanatos, we are no longer under the curse of self-contradictory thinking that kills and cancels itself and battles against itself. Now we have the sacred marriage, harmony, trust, peace, and our thinking is washed white as the lamb, the ram, the non-killed, spared, Jesus mythic figure in the Hellenistic leg-pulling mystic-meaning tall-tale of sufficient justification through atonement-demonstration in the Gospel fiction in the New Testament.

Jesus Lives, as he is taken down from the possibility-tree, and we are fully sufficiently justified, absolved, and purified. There is no more sin and death, no more self-contradicting mental error and ego-death remaining.

We have been given the mind of God, which is a merciful and friendly God, readily appeasable, easily satisfiable, so we may enjoy seizing in an overpowering cybergasm yet we may also relax and enjoy this marriage to the Bridegroom in this wedding chamber. I have the mind of God, and this mind of God is readily satisfied and self-harmonious, readily accepting the renunciation of the claim to egoic control power, as constituting complete permanent mental purification and harmonious coherence, no more *necessary* to test one’s alliance and faith through testing Wrath of self-distrust of my near-future thoughts.

I *can* be made to play with that divine control-seizure cybergasm, but I have a certain transcendent dis-association from the way my egoic control power can self-threaten, contradict, and destabilize itself. The price has been fully sufficiently paid, of mental renunciation, and knowing I must trust in the uncontrollable hidden controller, the snake hidden in a basket underground, the Creator.

Now I ride the donkey on the path with Balaam and Jesus, or the horse going along the road with Paul, appearing to propel myself though time by my own power, but all the words that I speak to you are actually put into my mouth by God, and if I were to claim ownership of them, my mind as an angel of death would strike me down in self-contradicting power: cybernetic self-control seizure, the thorn in my side, the hole in my side through which my new, justified, purified, undying life is born, sins washed away, absolved.

Additionally, there are mythemes of transcending heimarmene, possibly including a kind of demonization of heimarmene as a prison controlled by a hated demiurge. The power from outside the mandorla passageway must lift me up from this underworld prison-cave up into freedom in the heavens outside the astral plane, past the cosmic heimarmene-snake ouroboros, outside the frozen spacetime block of creation.

— Michael Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com, December 9, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6133 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 10/12/2012
Subject: Re: Ecstatic self-violation, willing end of king’s future, blood sac
Woe unto you, Cognitive Neuroscientist trippers! Repent and demonstrate trust in God because your kingship is otherwise destined to soon be destroyed by self-control violation vortex.

Where did this pre-modern idea come from, and what does it actually mean? “The god is blood thirsty, and his wrath is appeased by sacrificing one’s child.” What does that mean underneath the mythic figurations, as the actual ultimate referent, as explained by scientific thinking? The Egodeath theory fully explains how that idea arises. Your life is primarily the life of a personal control agent, usually perceived mentally from the perspective of tight-cognitive binding, where awareness is bound-into egoic control dynamics, egoic control mental constructs.

Perhaps a mythic image of blood sacrifice is more effective for control restabilization, for the intermediate initiate, than the mere abstract abstruse concept of “to save your control stability, you-as-God demand merely that you mentally renounce your childish, idolatrous and ungodly claim to wield autonomous personal control power that has the power to steer away from your coming near-future fated thought, as if you have the power to create your own destiny and future possibility-branch, as though you are the creator of the spacetime block.

The no-free-will book-authors don’t think yet in terms of discovering ecstatic numinous horrific potential vulnerable helpless dependence. I am Jonah on a ship certainly headed for shipwreck in a storm, and know that God is angry at me for not acknowledging his power over me; I know that he demands that I sacrifice my self and throw it overboard because God has been commanding me to prophecy to the king of Nineveh that if he doesn’t repent and honor God, his kingdom is fated to very soon fall into destruction.

The philosophers recently go around advocating no-free-will, but if you follow that logic, into loosecog, you discover an interesting transcendent-thinking vulnerability, a thorn in the side, an organ through which a new self-concept *beyond* mere no-free-will, is born: a self-concept of vulnerable helpless dependence.

What exactly and specifically, scientifically, is the cognitive dynamics of “bad trip”? What founding hero-Theorist can cage this “bad trip” monster that demands propitiary sacrifice of the town’s children every year, lest the monster destroy everyone in the land, preventing life, making it an impotent wasteland. Terrence McKenna cut back extremely on mushroom use due to a bad trip in the late 1980s. Most “bad trips” are probably due to encountering these self-control limitations, control-level conflicts, and cancellation dynamics, but without a coherent way — until the Egodeath theory — to confront, process forward through, and integrate these dynamics, along with mapping to historical religious myth where these dynamics are standard and have been resolved such as using themes of mythic cultic blood sacrifice.


It might be typical, a logical sequence, for the semi-advanced initiate to consider ritually deliberately committing harm to one’s future but then rejecting that natural train of reasoning because it is magical thinking and not necessary, not really relevant, not effective, and harms one’s ability to continue living and honoring the God (the transcendent dimension that controls one’s fated thoughts). That’s where the idea comes from, of “substitute sacrifice”, “transferring guilt onto the animal”, and “substitutionary atonement for purification”.

Perhaps this sequence of thoughts occurs often in the peak advanced freak-out window.
First, the thought appears: does my god-like thinking need to see me prove my transcendent ability to violate my own self-control power?
Then, the thought appears:

That natural sequence of cybernetic self-control thoughts would explain the origin of “the gods are bloodthirsty for sacrifice but they can be appeased even through a vegetative sacrifice.” Remember what the challenge is. The challenge is not to stay dumb and comfy in your boring-to-death suburban wasteland, stunted, infantilized. The goal and challenge is to experience the peak window ecstatic numinous encounter, cybergasm. Not to avoid the self-control strange-attractor vortex. The task to face, to face the music, is to *engage* and *explain* the logic of propitiating sacrifice to avert the wrath of the god.

The goal is not to avoid encountering and experiencing the wrath of god. The goal for the theorist of ego death is to *engage* and *explain* scientifically why self-control cybernetics in loosecog is drawn toward self-violation demonstration ideas, which are described as “blood thirsty god demanding to eat the child, demanding propitiary sacrifice of your child, to avert the god’s wrath.” What do you have for that to explain it? You got nothing? Shall we puss around the subject, or man up heroically as the hero-theorist?

Per myth in antiquity, gods are bloodthirsty and demand a blood sacrifice to avert their wrath, their danger. The generalized terror and fear of one’s newly revealed heimarmene-track perhaps initially is envisioned as horrific chaos and extreme strife, or frighteningly clear unchained, mentally unrestrained ability to imagine intending some demonstrative ritual-like self-violation, such as scrambling your dorm room which you would never do, being a highly controlled person. I was told of a couple people doing that: I take it, they had a revelation about their own inability to control themselves across time, and ritually demonstrated doing a disordering they would never do. It is mandatory that we explain the maenads, which I read as male initiates on psychoactive mushroom wine.

From the point of view of where you think as the god, when you think from the point of view of being possessed by Dionysus, you might want to somehow test and disprove your ability to “control yourself” in some sense, in order to gain a more coherent mental model of self-control across time, a model that doesn’t contradict itself in practice.

Suppose a series of 9 initiations, loosecog sessions. Perceiving the hidden heimarmene-track and recognizing it as a mortal threat to your control stability might happen in session 6. At first you recoil and run away. But then you get sick of not understanding this dynamic and not having peace of mind, not having transcendent knowledge. You get sick of being possessed by egoic thinking. That motivates you, as a hero, to come back toward the threatening control-loss vortex and the heimarmene-rail, that monstrous snake hidden underground. Now in session 7, you have somewhat the Dionysus-possessed mind, and you want to test your control-power. So then you think about this “vulnerability to go out of control with harmful self-control violation”.

The question poses itself to the mind: What are you trying to demonstrate and prove, and how can you manage to prove it and demonstrate the constraints on the dynamics of personal control power? At that stage of initiations, the mind considers the idea or question, must I, to gain full self-control integrity of my mental model, must I sacrifice harmfully? By what means is the demonstration of noncontrol (of inability to control one’s control across time) adequately performed?

The question of whether the godly mind wants or demands a blood sacrifice could possibly be a logical standard question that arises, a standard horror for a certain stage of initiations, especially in antiquity, where blood sacrifice was de rigueur. Then after that question arises — like after Abraham raises the knife over Isaac according to the fictional tale, then the godly mind thinks in the manner of the gods who respond to being propitiated.


The newage peace-and-light hippie spiritual acid people presume to guide others to wisdom through a vanilla, sterilized, safety-helmeted, toned-down approach — good luck with achieving perfection and fecund cybergasm that way.

Taking wimpy doses and avoiding thinking about self-control violation fails, erring on the side of too much caution and prevention. Excessive peace and light.

Taking heroic doses fails, producing terror lockup of thinking, mental constructs too dis-integrated and fragmented. Excessive heavy metal darkness; the PA system is blasting so loud it’s wimpy unproductive sonic chaos, useless mush. Get crazy, sacrifice a cat? Terrorize yourself to death? It won’t accomplish anything.


Can we have perfection and purification of the mental model, to forcefully cancel out egoic control power (or egoic control logic), without terror and fear, apprehension, without thoughts or questions of some horrific deliberate hyper-controlled ritual demonstration of transcending personal control power?

New: Explanation of the meaning of the n*ken guy recoiling from the red star on the 2112 album:
Picture the n*ked guy on the 2112 acid-rock album cover, in a stance of apprehension upon perceiving the logical and esthetic perfection of the star in the circle.

(The radio is now playing the start of the 2112 album; it started after I wrote that. Prelude and Temples of Syrinx, which is about Richard Nixon’s evil, anti-God, anti-Science, anti-Philosophy, anti-Humanity, fraudulent “war on drugs”.)


The goal is *not* to avoid encountering self-control seizure. The goal is to encounter and explain and comprehend self-control transcendence, the self-control vortex and the involved experiential and perceptual revelations involved. Not to avoid the monster, but to contain, integrate, domesticate, and map-out the interesting hidden horror that sits in the middle of the path, as a doorway, on the road to transcendent knowledge, required, to Know Thyself. We cannot have transcendent knowledge by avoiding encountering with and grappling and dancing with, and embracing, the self-control vortex.


The foundation myth of our Greco-Christian culture is: “The god is blood thirsty, and his wrath is appeased by sacrificing one’s child.” Explain it. My Egodeath theory explains it. This is a logical natural sequence of loosecog initiation encounters with ideas about personal control:

Loosecog session 1. Random beginner exploration: metaperception of mental constructs. Your awareness doesn’t directly perceive your hand; your awareness is presented with mental constructs instead.

One sooner or later comes across issues of control.

Loosecog session 2. Maenad-like room scrambling, meant to fully demonstrate the inability to control oneself across time.

Loosecog session 3. Feel suspended frozen in time, powerlessly, but not yet with fearsome vision of being threatened by one’s forcefully arriving fated thoughts.

Loosecog session 4. Experience a desire to demonstrate full control violation; experience the mind being pulled and sucked inevitably toward the seemingly appealing thought of self-violation, destroying one’s future. The mind conspires: even to the point of a false memory, a compelling (though suspected artificial) intense deja-vu feeling: remember that you were here before, timelessly again are here where your mind was being pulled inevitably toward remembering the intention to violate your self-control harming your future, and you felt and feel powerless, and this is the way of transcendent highly desirable morally superior pure logically true thinking. The climax-bound mind is eager to construct-together a dynamic of “I can’t help but want to feel forced to self-violate”.

What matter is the mind has that capacity and that desire for self-knowledge and transcendent knowledge about its potential control dynamics. How can we indulge this dynamic and get this transcendent knowledge, both effectively and safely, and how can we remember it so that the egoic delusional mental model doesn’t reappear in such a way that the transcendent knowledge is once again forgotten?

Loosecog session 5. Thinking with the transcendent mind of god possessing your mind (egoic thinking suspended/disengaged), realize that no action, no “works based sacrificial demonstration for purification” can prove anything about how well you understand, and, at this point, the mind questions: “Well, what does God, what do I *as* Dionysus, demand myself to meet as a standard to demonstrate and proof and lock-in permanently my grasp of the idea of my personal non-control relative to the forced-injection of my fated ideas?” What makes sense? What is effective? How does my Jesus-possessed mind permanently exorcise the ego-demon of egoic control thinking and the egoic mental worldmodel? What must I do to be purified and permanently cast out my demon that separates me from God?

How can the logical initiate do or think something that will prevent egoic thinking from reappearing? How can the logical initiate remember and hang onto this vision, in the peak window, of noncontrol? Does self-violation of some sort make sense for that objective? At this point, the mostly-transcendent mind, or mental model, is *searching*: what *kind* of “demonstration” or “making a permanent impression on my thinking”, can cause me to permanently kill and prevent my childish egoic control thinking, my egoic mental model? As a godly-thinking mind, the ancient initiate figured that the goal is to continue living, viably, while permanently retaining the non-control perspective. Does the ancient ritual of blood sacrifice help accomplish this, to represent self-violation?

Loosecog session 6. Think of mythic ideas of blood sacrifice, such as of Isaac (progenitor of *all* God’s kingdom of Israel!!), then think of the myth of the substitutionary, satisfactory sacrifice of the God-given bush-nullified ram of Isaac, and similarly think of the myth of God giving his own only son as the king of his entire kingdom of Israel to be blood-sacrificed (so much for God’s kingdom then). Consider from Dionysus’ or Zeus’ point of view: what do you want and need from yourself? To think of blood, in reality or in mythic figuration? No, the point is, to acknowledge the limitations of personal control power and the forced demand that we trust our hidden uncontrollable source of thoughts (the heimarmene snake given to oneself by Controller X, the creator of the block universe).

The whole point is, to mentally exhibit or demonstrate to one’s satisfaction, the idea of mental renunciation of your claim to autonomous control power.

Loosecog session 7. Think the abstract concept of: to save your control stability, you-as-God demand merely that you “mentally renounce” your childish, idolatrous and ungodly claim to wield autonomous personal control power that has the power to steer away from your coming near-future fated thought, as if you have the power to create your own destiny and future possibility-branch, as though you are the creator of the spacetime block. And that you “put trust in” and “take a trusting stance toward” the heimarmene worldline that is forcefully always injected into your mind at all points along your worldline.

Usually, the divine power forcefully injects your thoughts secretly, covertly, occluded, except during the peak window of the loose cognitive state that Isis sometimes makes you enter, when she draws your donkey into her temple.


One asks oneself, while possessed by Dionysus, or while one is possessed by Jesus the demon-exorcist: how can I, Dionysus, satisfy myself that this mind has renounced its egoic claim to autonomous control power? How can I, God of Israel, satisfy myself that this mind has renounced its egoic claim to autonomous control power and is in a friendly trusting testament treaty relationship, a sacred trusting marriage, trusting the heimarmene-rail I have given to this mind at the timeless moment of creation of the block universe? “Your faith has saved you. Tell no one, but show yourself to the collaborationist priest.”

Out of weakness, the mind invented blood-sacrifice myths and should let go of them, they are a crutch, not strictly necessary but when you are in the peak window, fairly advanced in your series of loosecog initiations. The urge or notion to self-violate as proof and securing of self-integrity of your mental model of control, naturally suggests some extreme self-violation demonstration or life-threatening possibility, and that is why the mind finds it comforting to picture a (substitutionary) blood sacrifice: because in theory, the loose mind possessed by Dionysus or Jesus or some ego-demon, could commit extreme self-violation; that’s the logical fear that follows from feeling and perceiving personal control as illusory.

The next thought in the sequence after that is: what does pure logic, or God, or me-thinking-as-God, actually want? And what can I *do* to *remember* this non-control, block-universe perspective? Antiquity was drenched in themes helping people to remember noncontrol, repudiation, no-free-will, and frozen block-universe heimarmene. The first modern-era Theorist of Egodeath faces a challenge to remember and not forget, these things. The Theorist writes and cybernetically communicates in 2006 the clear Egodeath theory of self-control violation and repudiation-sacrifice of egoic control thinking — this is extremely helpful for other people to safely anticipate, repudiate, and remember what their self sacrifice was about.

The ancients faced the problem of remembering no-free-will too well; they had to strive to hide it from their non-initiated children and youths, to prevent untimely, premature egodeath virally spreading to entirely wipe out our beloved youthful childish freewillist delusion of autonomous personal control agency.

Perhaps the initial repudiation of personal control power during the peak window is easier than *remembering* the insight and repudiation, the control-nullity perspective, the inability to avoid the near-future fated thought that you are being inevitably pulled forward toward, with no braking ability, no way to slow down, no steering ability, threatened by cybernetic shipwreck, extreme self-violation threat, unless Jonah throws his egoic self overboard in obedience to God’s command, repudiating his egoic distrust of his own fated heimarmene worldline, to stay God’s hand, to avert the wrath that results when you take a stance of distrusting God’s fated future worldline he commands you to have.

We can ride pleasantly in God’s chariot, or kick against the pricks (steering-goads), and be chaotically dragged to our destruction behind God’s chariot — that is a Stoic-type figuration of the mind’s proper stance of relationship to Heimarmene.

— Michael Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com, December 9, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6134 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 10/12/2012
Subject: Re: Ecstatic self-violation, willing end of king’s future, blood sac
Reset through trembling ecstatic kneeling submission

The problem for the modern secular transcendent person: how do I mentally exhibit or demonstrate to my satisfaction, the idea of excitedly, trembling, enlightened, backing-down from my ecstatic, panicked, counter-attack against the root of my own power, mental renunciation of my claim to autonomous control power, against the overwhelming power of the now-revealed heimarmene-snake, now that I fully understand the deadly cybernetic ramifications of going up against that unstoppable force of God’s power of Creation, of the block universe itself? “Ignorance gave him confidence to go up against reality.” If you take up arms against your own subterranean heimarmene-snake worldline, your horse will panic and throw you to your grave injury.

To avert self-control disaster, and to secure transcendent knowledge and prevent reincarnation into egoic delusion (mental model backsliding), no thought of anything like a propitiating blood sacrifice is needed; merely think of submissively bowing your head, which is a sign of submission — offering your neck and life, putting yourself at the mercy of the other control-agent, and state, as kind of a prayer:


To avert disaster, restabilize control, and secure transcendent knowledge without forgetting it, think of kneeling and bowing the neck, and think:

“I repudiate my claim to autonomous self-control power separately from my fated worldline, and I put trust as I must in my worldline, which is the root and source of my power of personal control agency, though I, as a conscious control agent on this level of control cannot control my underlying fated worldline.”


U2:
If you want to kiss the sky
Better learn how to kneel
On your knees boy


The Acid Rock Prophet tells us:
excerpts from Neil Peart, for scholarly purposes:

Blood-stained velvet, dirty lace
Naked fear on every face
See them bow their heads to die <==
As we would bow as they rode by

And we’re marching to Bastille Day
La guillotine will claim her bloody prize
Sing, oh choirs of cacophony
The king has kneeled to let his kingdom rise.


A thousand years have come and gone
But time has passed me by
Stars stopped in the sky
Frozen in an everlasting view

Waiting for the world to end
Weary of the night
Praying for the light <==
Prison of the lost
Xanadu


All preordained
A prisoner in chains
A victim of venomous fate
Kicked in the face
You can’t (sung “can”) pray for a place <==
In heaven’s unearthly estate.


He’s got a problem with his poisons
But you know he’ll find a cure
He’s cleaning up his systems
To keep his nature pure

He’s got a problem with his power
With weapons on patrol
He’s got to walk a fine line
And keep his self-control


1-0-0-1-0-0-1 (“I”)
S.O.S.
In distress

Memory banks unloading
Bytes break into bits
Unit One’s in trouble and it’s scared out of its wits

Guidance systems break down
A struggle to exist — to resist
A pulse of dying power in a clenching plastic fist

It replays each of the days
A hundred years of routines
Bows its head and prays <==
To the mother of all machines


I have scientifically explained the cognitive dynamics of the advanced initiate’s bad trip.

I have explained the self-control logic of testing one’s power by using the latent potential threat of harmful self-control violation.

I have explained the master mytheme of “The god demands blood sacrifice of your child to avert his wrath.”

I have explained why ideally, eventually, the mind can move past even the idea or myth of blood sacrifice or any harm, to reach a completely harmless method of simply thinking of bowing the head or just thinking, “I hereby repudiate my claim to autonomous self-control power separately from my fated worldline, and I put trust as I must in my worldline, which is the root and source of my power of personal control agency, though I, as a conscious control agent on this level of control cannot control my underlying fated worldline.”

I have explained the dynamics of the loosecog control-vortex and why it is the main, most interesting feature of the psychedelic loosecog state.

I have pointed out that the control vortex is a phase or doorway which all Cognitive Scientists will be forced to go through and they will be forced to have my Egodeath theory as the map and explanation of this intensely attractive and destructively, threatening, most-interesting capacity, of cybergasm.

I have shown how this cybergasm capacity relates to mythic mystery initiation, the sacred marriage, the bridal chamber, the death of the maiden, and the birth of the divine child from a God and a mortal woman, all based on a non-metaphorical Core theory with a theory extension mapping the core to historical religious myth.

I have provided the traditional Acid Rock lyric epic poetry soundtrack guide to accompany and paranoiacally provoke the encounter and exploration of the cybernetic personal self-control vortex.

— Michael Hoffman, http://www.egodeath.com, December 9, 2012
Copyright (C) 2012, Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com. All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6135 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 10/12/2012
Subject: Re: Ecstatic self-violation, willing end of king’s future, blood sac
A victim of venomous fate

venom = snake
venomous fate = heimarmene snake
Group: egodeath Message: 6136 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 10/12/2012
Subject: Re: Sacrif Isaac = kingdom, subst ram in bush, son Jesus on tree/st
Some translations commit a mystic error by omitting the theme of “turn around and look back behind your self and see the truth about your control power”.

International Standard Version
Then Abraham looked up and behind him to see a ram caught by its horns in the thicket. So Abraham went over, grabbed the ram, and offered it as a burnt offering in place of his son.

King Pentheus caught in a tree and then sacrificed by being disintegrated, pulled into pieces by ecstatically crazed Maenads initiates is

Ill-equipped to act
Caught in ticking traps
-Peart

Pentheus means ‘sorrows’: the Man of Sorrows, sorrow for the death of a loved one, as in the death of one’s child self.
Group: egodeath Message: 6137 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 10/12/2012
Subject: Re: Riding atop a horse, donkey, bull, ox
Photo of 3 researchers holding up a 15-foot python
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/06/us/florida-python-hunt/?hpt=us_c1
Group: egodeath Message: 6138 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 10/12/2012
Subject: Re: Sacrif Isaac = kingdom, subst ram in bush, son Jesus on tree/st
The ram’s horns are snake-shaped

The hunter is turned into a stag with possibility-branching antlers and his dogs tear him to pieces.

In the Gigantomachy, initiates have snakes for legs; our power is supported by and comes from timeless fatedness, which Zeus controls as we are made to battle against Zeus. Lightning, Zeus’ power against delusion of ego power, is snake shaped, and branching.

Zeus Meilichios shown as a bearded man’s head on the body of a snake

Hell is a lion’s head on a snake’s body, Jesus pulls Adam through jaws.

Mytheme abbreviation: snake then ram horn (blowing the shofer horn) then Moses’ horns

Ruck and M Hoffman see mushrooms everywhere, but I have mystic vision: I see snakes and branching, contrasted, everywhere.

Jonah’s prayer: seaweed (worldline) wraps my head like ivy victory wreath crown garland

images
http://www.google.com/search?q=zeus+meilichios

Zeus battles Python which is you holding your hand over your heart they call this submissive gesture but why? Because it is submissive cybernetically: Zeus overpowers me at my very heart of my power, through fatedness, thot injection through time given to me at all times already, before I arrived at this point along my time path. I remember now Zeus is putting my control thoughts in my mind and I am dying, dead power, and bowing to him who trumps me from outside of the spacetime block. There is no time for me to have power over time.

In ivy and lightning and meanders and roads, you can find some 1D nonbranching segments and some branching, but the profound mystic meaning lies in the contrast between branching possibilities versus nonbranching fated worldline

Lion gorgon head on breastplate is death head, posted previously; it’s clear that the lion head depicts ego death overpowering of the mind’s personal control power. Dionysus is panther cat lion, lion is king ego. The world of myth is packed with this anti-delusion of reference.

Diamond hammer of interpretation: all mytheme elements and mythic attributes refer to cybernetics/heimarmene/dissociation.

Mythic figuration has a certain effectiveness at communicating abstruse concepts that express intense altered state experiencings.

— Copyright 2012 M Hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6139 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 10/12/2012
Subject: Re: Sacrif Isaac = kingdom, subst ram in bush, son Jesus on tree/st
ram’s horns in bush/bramble/thicket =
snake in tree =
ivy wreath crown of thorns nailed to cross or hung on a tree
heimarmene worldline vs our virtual-only cybnernetic possibility branching power

Once the coding is estab, can coherently abbrev in other less clear exprns of it
Group: egodeath Message: 6140 From: Michael Hoffman Date: 11/12/2012
Subject: Re: Sacrif Isaac = kingdom, subst ram in bush, son Jesus on tree/st
The wings on Typhon indicate that Typhon is an initiate (you) in the loosecog state while being struck down by Zeus, and by heimarmene as the basis of your pre-given thoughts at all points in time.

[typo correction]
Zeus battles [Typhon] which is you holding your hand over your heart
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