Egodeath Yahoo Group – Digest 128: 2014-12-31

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Group: egodeath Message: 6558 From: egodeath Date: 31/12/2014
Subject: Re: List of my claims to priority of discovery
An alternative, broader title of this thread:

Contributions that the ego death theory makes across fields

No studies of myth before the Egodeath theory pay any attention to the mytheme of ‘rock’, which I discovered is a key mytheme, meaning block universe Eternalism. The list of key myth themes is short like 10 items the key myth themes are:
king (ruler, kubernetes, steersman)
snake (serpent)
monster
rock
wine (sacred food or drink)

Puppet or doll should be a key myth theme (child Dionysus’ toy). Read the history of marionettes in religion. Functionally, puppet is one of the 10 key myth themes. Slave (servant) is related, also prisoner and chains and imprisonment and fastening to the physical such as chained to a rock or nailed to a tree maybe with no branches

I use world mythology; religious mythic metaphor in all eras, all regions. My main focus is Christianity and its broad context in ancient near East and Mediterranean antiquity including Greco-Roman myth.

Christianity is the most important religion and the most important religion to elevate, repair, correct, and complete.

Lift up the average level of Christianity.

A minority have high Christianity, which is true enlightenment; transcendent, proper religion.

The majority, most Christianity, is degenerate, downshifted, ego-level religion.

There is some distribution in Islam of how low or high of a type of religion.

Currently, under the conditions of delusion-preserving Prohibition of visionary plants and chemicals:

Most Islam is low, degenerate, false, degraded, literalist religion, on the ego level.

A small amount of Islam is high, elevated, true transcendent religion.

The task is to raise the average level or reverse the ratio of low religion and high religion so that:

For children we have some kind of temporary low ego religion /Islam.

For adolescents and adults we have fully developed high transcendent religion/ Islam.


Following ancient Greeks, we consider ego delusion of free will to be precious children that we love and then sacrifice upon adolescence.

We do away with childish things and sacrifice them to God in order to be in alignment with truth and intellectual integrity and coherence.

Abraham sacrifices his child but turns to look up and look behind him to perceive a powerful ram caught powerlessly, helplessly in a branching bush, and he sacrifices that.

It is not necessary or effective in giving right credit to God as the controller if we go out of control in some harmful way.

The effective sacrifice enabling life to continue to “choose life”, to be able to continue practical living in order to give credit to the higher uncontrollable controller, we sacrifice our claim to autonomous steering power, by mentally renouncing our assumption of free will power and possibility branching, by mentally affirming an idea about non-control, rather than by demonstrating loss of control in a way that is physically harmful and prevents practical life from continuing.

Let us not limit enlightenment to the people in the insane asylum; we must have a way to realize non-control in an orderly way that preserves health and prosperity and long life.

Religion is a way of doing this.

The childish claim of autonomous personal control power in a branching possibility tree is a delicate illusion butterfly to preserve and protect and shield.

Mothers shield the eyes of their children to protect the children from seeing the naked bicyclists lest the children be harmed by seeing them.

Protect the uninitiated from perceiving the mysteries revealed; protect them from seeing the heimarmene snake, lest everyone have premature ego death and we lose the precious illusion of free will from the world.


One of the most important, powerful and potent of my threads is the dictionary or inventory of groups of myth themes; this format is maximally condensed and efficient.

That thread includes key myth themes and lesser myth themes.


Siri voice dictation does not currently recognize the word ‘mytheme’, so this technology limitation influences me to prefer a synonym, such as ‘myth theme’.

A Kenneth Humphreys YouTube video points out: there is a prototype of the raising Lazarus story at the end of one gospel, versus the developed story: Jesus says “If you do not comprehend the old testament metaphor of sacrifice, then you will not Believe (that is, comprehend enlightenment and religious mythic metaphor) even if I were to do a miracle of raising a man from the dead”, which Jesus then proceeds to do in the elaborated version in the other gospel, of John.

That pattern applies to the raising of Jesus; if you do not understand the metaphor of death and new transformed life after that virtual-ego control-agent steersman death, then you will not believe even if a man were raised from the dead before your eyes.

The one who tells you this, I have seen these things with my own eyes and witnessed it; I tell you what I saw and I told you the truth, so that you may Believe:

When Caesar’s Roman imperial soldier put the spear into Jesus’ side on the cross, immediately water and blood flowed, indicating that he was alive when removed from the cross, and that therefore Jesus’ raising from among the dead is metaphor — describing what we experience in the mystic altered state after drinking the mushroom wine which Jesus gave to his pre-ordained elect who were destined to receive and drink his mushroom wine and chew his mushroom flesh — and not literal.

This is fairly well known, as the swoon theory, but people do not comprehend it in its fullness because they do not have the complete ego death theory.

Note the pattern here, that idea X is fairly well-known.

The swoon theory from the blood and water flowing immediately from Jesus side is fairly well known.

Iron block universe determinism with no free will is fairly well known.

Reformed theology and extreme hyper-Calvinism is fairly well known.

The ahistoricity of Jesus is fairly well known.

That the new testament is metaphor is fairly well known.

Ttat religion comes from visionary plants is fairly well known.

That the mystic altered state reveals non-duality is fairly well known.

What is not well-known is how and that these minority understandings are profoundly interconnected, when modified and combined correctly, produces an explosion of revising the mental world model of time and control.

To Believe is to understand the veiled transcendent meaning that is hidden from those who do not perceive the meaning and do not understand what is being described.

— Michael Hoffman, the interdisciplinary ego death theorist, December 31, 2014

Believer:
I’m a believer
I ain’t no deceiver
destiny planned out
speculation of the wise
Group: egodeath Message: 6559 From: egodeath Date: 31/12/2014
Subject: Re: List of my claims to priority of discovery
Ken Humphreys on the resurrection of Lazarus
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=plcp&v=ka9vpdBFmRw

In Luke 16:31, Jesus says:
If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2016&version=NIV
Group: egodeath Message: 6560 From: egodeath Date: 01/01/2015
Subject: Re: Voice recognition text input thread
I should probably use this thread for rough unedited uncorrected voice transcription.

Most of my posts in threads will be cleaned up posts.

I should probably use a general all topic thread which I have done here in the past, containing cleaned up writing on any topic.
Group: egodeath Message: 6561 From: egodeath Date: 01/01/2015
Subject: General thread
This thread, like one a couple years ago that I should link to, contains cleaned-up writing or voice dictation on any on-topic topic.
Group: egodeath Message: 6562 From: egodeath Date: 01/01/2015
Subject: Re: Asymmetry of Reformed theology
What’s going on today in Christian thinking:

Critique of PSA (penal substitutionary atonement) as “the gospel”. PSA was created by Anselm around 1000 and is barely present in the New Testament. The ‘gospel’ of Caesar or the gospel of Jesus is not PSA.

Similarly, ECT (eternal conscious torment) a.k.a. Hell is barely present in the Bible.

PSA is un-Biblical, especially as a matter of proportionate emphasis.

ECT or Hell is un-Biblical, especially as a matter of proportionate emphasis.

Pop religion says the purpose of religion is to avoid punishment-Hell and go to reward-Heaven after bodily death — a view applicable to egoic thinking for free-will agents steering through a possibility branching future, but not applicable to no-free-will puppets frozen into the preset block universe.

— Michael Hoffman, the ego death theorist
Group: egodeath Message: 6563 From: egodeath Date: 01/01/2015
Subject: Describing what my intellectual work is about
Suppose I want to explain to my fathers and mothers what kind of intellectual work or theory development I do.

What field of intellectual work or scholarship am I in?

What kind of theory is my ego death theory?

What am I working on?

What am I interested in?

Someone wants to link to my site. How should they describe the work at the site? What kind of work does Michael Hoffman do that you will find at his ego death site?

The challenge is to describe this work in repeatable terms that one person in an elevator can repeat to another person in an elevator. Therefore any unusual complicated phrases cannot work.

What is the most generic description of the kind of theory this is?

A physics professor asked me the other day:

What is my area of interest such that I need to research the history of the idea of block universe determinism?

I always invent a new answer on the spot that differs each time.

I developed a theory of:
religion
religious experiencing
the mystic altered state
drugs in religious origins
the use of drugs throughout religious history
myth as metaphor describing religious experiencing
the history of the idea of no free will
interpretation of the mystery religions
the limits of personal control power across time
self-control integrity across time
how Christianity originated without the need for any single historical Jesus or historical Paul.
Ego death

— Michael Hoffman, the theorist of stuff. Including ego death, religion, mysticism, myth, drugs in religion, myth as description of visionary plants revealing no free will
Group: egodeath Message: 6564 From: egodeath Date: 01/01/2015
Subject: Re: Describing what my intellectual work is about
In terms of university departments and broad bookstore topic categories, file my research under Religion, Psychology, Philosophy, or Cognitive Science.

In January 1988, my core theory breakthrough was to conceptualize ego transcendence as a matter of self-control cybernetics in light of block universe determinism rather than as a matter of non-duality.

In 1988, I decided to leave the prestigious STEM major. I considered majoring in Religion, Philosophy, Psychology, and Computer Science. Finally in 1989, as the field and approach I felt most aligned with, I discovered the tiny specialized area of Cognitive Science.

Cognitive Science seems to have gone nowhere, while neuro-whatever, Neuroscience, Neuro-anything has run off with the prestige and marketability.

I realized that the field of Religion, Philosophy, and Psychology were hopeless (rats in mazes) and would not assist me any more than remaining in the STEM major.

The STEM major enabled me to discover and formulate the breakthrough theory; it was proven to be a viable and successful major to produce the discovery.

— Michael Hoffman, theorist of religion, philosophy, and psychology
Group: egodeath Message: 6565 From: egodeath Date: 01/01/2015
Subject: Re: Condemning vs. elevating & comprehending religion
The ego death theory uses as building blocks fields including ahistoricity, no free will, reformed theology, and visionary plants in religious origins (such as the work of Carl Ruck).

The ego death theory modifies and contributes to and improves each of these fields in order to successfully fit them together into something better than the sum of them.

The ego death theory does not use much as a building block to build on: non-duality or Astrotheology.

My theory profoundly contributes to Astrotheology (by explaining {hiemarmene and transcending it} in Ptolemaic astral ascent mysticism), and fills in ideas around (surrounding) non-duality.

I read the book The Christ Conspiracy which (as a broad-ranging book) contributes to the Egodeath theory, but I would not say Astrotheology is a major building block on which the Egodeath theory is built.

The entheogen-history work of Clark Heinrich and Carl Ruck and Mark Hoffman is a building block that I improve and incorporate, upon which to build my Egodeath theory.

The ahistoricity work of Freke, Doherty, Price, and Acharya S is a building block that I improve and incorporate, upon which to build my Egodeath theory.

The Egodeath theory doesn’t use non-duality as a building block, but is more of an alternative, a competitor to the non-duality hypothesis of what religious enlightenment, mystic realization, is mainly and principally about.

— Michael Hoffman, the theorist of ego death
Group: egodeath Message: 6566 From: egodeath Date: 01/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
What was striking that I realized November 29, 2013 about {tree versus snake} upon comparing:
Lucas Cranach’s painting “Eve tempted by the serpent” (black & white, right half only)
to
the kylix painting by Douris depicting: limp king Jason, snake (dragon Ladon), limp sacrificed ram (golden fleece), tree (ivy strands, no golden apples shown), Athena, owl, gorgon (death head) on breastplate (aegis), snake tassels, snake fringes
after re-researching block universe determinism, Possibilism, & Eternalism
and reading about heroic dose mushrooms
after researching the hypothesis that ‘monster’ fundamentally is snake (such as dragon or Hydra or Typhon the father of all monsters, dragon Ismenios hidden in spring/pool/fountain in cave demanding sacrifice of children but killed by a rock); that is, perceiving and comprehending the eternal world model.

Why did the realizations and confirmations and discoveries therein cause me days of weeping and two weeks of “OMFG, OMFG!!”?

This early modern painter around 1530 understood that tree versus snake means possibility world model versus eternal world model.

The Old Testament, the beginning of the Bible, the foundational story of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, expresses what must be an exceedingly ancient most fundamental and simple condensed elementary principle, tree versus snake understanding as the possibility world model versus the eternal world model.

The tree in the garden of Hesperides is isomorphic with the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Bible, including tree, snake, apples, & death.

Ancient Near East religion with sacred groves routinely comprehended tree versus snake as possibility versus eternal world models.

Sacred groves must have had snakes in the trees.

Confirmed my hypothesis of probably December 2012 that Artemis’ and Actaeon stag was significant because of the branching of its antlers.

Confirmed my hypothesis that the ancients and early modern reformed thinkers understood Einstein’s and James’ iron block universe determinism.

Placed the stag with branching antlers from Greek myth into the context of Christian Jewish Bible myth.

My well established deciphering of the snake as world line in block universe determinism since sustained research since around 2003 was not a separate myth theme thread than my 2011/2012 hypothesis working theory that branching myth themes express choice steering and how it is preset in the eternal world model.

It brought together the previous separate themes of snake and branching elegantly together in a combination pair that I was not looking for.

I did not expect any kind of immediate adjacent contrast between a non-branching myth theme such as ribbon or ivy and branching myth theme such as hydra or crossroads or stag with branching antlers, but instead placed the non-branching myth theme the snake immediately in contrast against the branching myth theme of tree and also stag all together at once.

And not only in Greek myth but in the separate seemingly unrelated puzzle I had been also working on deciphering for years: the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

My established principle or recognition that snake means eternal world model and my hypothesis of branching myth themes, and my work on interpretation of tree of knowledge of good and evil, which were two or three separate research threads, suddenly were placed in direct contrast, not merely accumulation.

Simultaneously perceived in Greek myth image of Jason and in Bible fundamental starting image of tree of knowledge of good and evil.

“OMFG, OMFG!!” was spread out over time partly because it took time to further confirm and expand these combinations of realizations which kept coming like a jackpot that takes a long time to pour out.

The fallout from this day or week continued through to June 2014, leading to solving the staff of Aesculapius and reducing my four-quadrant diagram idea to two parts instead (before and after; that is, the possibility world model versus the eternity world model).

— Michael Hoffman, the interdisciplinary theorist of ego death

Copyright (C) 2015 Michael S. Hoffman (Egodeath.com). All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6567 From: egodeath Date: 01/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
eternal–>eternity
Group: egodeath Message: 6568 From: egodeath Date: 01/01/2015
Subject: Re: Condemning vs. elevating & comprehending religion
Relation of the Egodeath theory to other theories:
1. Visionary plants — uses
2. Ahistoricity — uses
3. Astrotheology — competes
4. Nonduality — competes

1. The Egodeath theory uses the visionary plants theory.

2. The Egodeath theory uses the ahistoricity theory.

3. The Egodeath theory competes against the astrotheology theory.

4. The Egodeath theory competes against the nonduality theory.


1. Relation to visionary plants:

The ego death theory builds on and corrects the visionary plants theory of religious origins and religious history.

The core theory focuses on loose cognitive association binding, or loose mental construct binding.

Visionary plants is a peripheral topic, as are history and metaphor.

The peripheral portions of the Egodeath theory focuses on visionary plants, history, and metaphor.


2. Relation to ahistoricity:

The ego death theory builds on and corrects the ahistoricity theory of religious origins, such as no historical Jesus, Paul, church fathers, Buddha Abraham, or Muhamed.


3. Relation to astrotheology:

The ego death theory competes against the astrotheology theory of religion.

The Egodeath theory subsumes astrotheology as a lesser component, in the form of {Ptolemaic astral ascent mysticism}.
(Earl Doherty would here write ‘Platonism’. Others would write ‘Neoplatonism’.)


4. Relationship to nonduality:

The ego death theory competes against the nonduality theory of ego transcendence.

The Egodeath theory subsumes nonduality as a lesser component:

Phase 1. In the first few initiations, we discover a premature foretaste of nonduality, in an unstable temporary control state filled with inconsistencies. This stage is where most spirituality writers are, such as Martin Ball and the religious part of Ken Wilber’s interdisciplinary framework & Journal of Transpersonal Psychology 1988.

Phase 2. Then we work through the longer drama of ego death and restoration in a reconfigured life; transforming the mental world model of time and control from possibility to eternity.

Phase 3. Finally, after we reach completion and perfection and have finished the series of initiations, we may enjoy nonduality and fully develop the concept of nonduality beyond today’s authors. Nonduality is merely one of many parts of enlightenment or advanced religious development.

Tmothy Freke could seemingly be categorized in Phase 3, because he asserts visionary plants in religion, no historical Jesus, and no-free-will.

However, Freke has not developed the interdisciplinary connections in a right configuration with right emphasis and connection to myth, and full scope of coverage of these.

Freke writes only a couple pages on visionary plants and only a couple pages on no-free-will.

Freke’s discussions of visionary plants and no-free-will are split apart within separate books.

Freke’s books don’t focus on no-free-will or visionary plants.

Freke’s publisher discouraged proposing multiple controversial topics at once.

— Michael Hoffman, the interdisciplinary ego death theorist, January 1, 2015
Group: egodeath Message: 6569 From: egodeath Date: 01/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
‘monster’ fundamentally is snake; perceiving and comprehending the Eternalism world model.

Snake is:
serpent,
dragon,
Hydra,
Typhon the father of all monsters,
dragon Ismenios hidden in spring/pool/fountain in cave demanding sacrifice of children but killed by a rock,
Medusa

— Michael Hoffman, the interdisciplinary ego death theorist, January 1, 2015
Group: egodeath Message: 6570 From: egodeath@yahoogroups.com Date: 01/01/2015
Subject: File – EgodeathGroupCharter.txt
The Egodeath Yahoo group is a Weblog sent out by Michael Hoffman,
covering the cybernetic theory of ego death and ego transcendence,
including:

o Block-universe determinism/Fatedness, the closed
and preexisting future, tenseless time, free will as illusory, the
holographic universe, and predestination and Reformed theology.

o Cognitive science, mental construct processing, mental models,
ontological idealism, contemporary metaphysics of the continuant
self, cybernetic self-control, personal control agency, moral agency,
and self-government.

o Zen satori, short-path enlightenment, and Alan Watts;
transpersonal psychology, Ken Wilber, and integral theory.

o Entheogens and psychedelic drugs, mystery religions, mythic
metaphor and allegorical encoding, the mystic altered state, mystic
and religious experiencing, visionary states, religious rapture, and
Acid Rock mysticism.

o Loss of control, self-control seizure, cognitive instability, and
psychosis and schizophrenia.


— Michael Hoffman
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath
http://www.egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 6571 From: egodeath Date: 01/01/2015
Subject: Equivalent position labels in determinism and Calvinism
Equivalent position labels in determinism and Calvinism

Tricky position labels are equivalent in determinism and Calvinism.

A professed “compatibilist” is actually either a covert freewillist or a covert determinist.

Most professed “compatibilists” are actually covert, mislabeled freewillists. I label this “freewill determinism”.

The other, fewer professed “compatibilists” are actually covert, mislabeled determinists.

Today’s explicit determinists, and professed “compatibilists”, who are actually covert determinists, their thinking is still filled with freewill thinking, in an inconsistent, mixed, muddled, mingled way.


GIVEN:

hyper-Calvinist = determinist

Moderate Calvinist = compatibilist

Arminian = freewillist


THEREFORE by parallel with the observations about determinism vs. freewill position-labels:


A professed “moderate Calvinist” is actually either a covert Arminian or a covert hyper-Calvinist.

Most professed “moderate Calvinists” are actually covert, mislabeled Arminians. I call this “freewill Calvinism” or “Arminian Calvinism”.

The other, fewer professed “moderate Calvinists” are actually covert, mislabeled hyper-Calvinists.


Today’s explicit hyper-Calvinists, and professed “moderate Calvinists” who are actually covert Arminians, their thinking is still filled with Arminian, freewill thinking, in an inconsistent, mixed, muddled, mingled way.


See the great book “The Dark Side of Calvinism: The Calvinist Caste system”, by George Bryson.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1931667888/

The Egodeath theory is hyper-Calvinism or “extreme hyper-Calvinism”, except that the Egodeath theory is consistent, such as deleting punishment-hell and reward-heaven, which are free-will thinking.

Modern philosophical ‘determinism’ is shot through with inconsistent unresolved freewill thinking such as multipossibility branching.

Hyper-Calvinism, such as the view of John Calvin, is still shot through with inconsistent unresolved Arminian thinking such as punishment-hell (eternal conscious torment, ECT) and reward-heaven.

You cannot have hyper-Calvinism while retaining the assumption of ECT and a heaven and hell concept which are thoroughly still conceptualized as punishment and reward places.

For consistency, you must completely reject such Armenian thinking as hell and heaven as punishment and reward, and you must reject PSA, penal substitutionary atonement (penal = punishment).

To become consistent, the hyper-Calvinist must replace the Arminian conception of punishment-hell and reward-heaven by the alternative conceptualization, which is:

‘hell’ as correction by the Holy Spirit in the mystic altered state, and
‘heaven’ (and the kingdom of God) as a state of consistent thinking and mental healing and perfection & purification in the mystic altered state.

In the re-conceptualized hyper-Calvinist understanding of ‘heaven’, one is permitted to eat of the fruit of the tree “of life” (per Revelation at the end of the Bible bracketing with the two trees at the start of the Bible) but implicitly also the fruit of the tree of *the knowledge of good and evil*.

The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is visionary plants and the eternity worldmodel they reveal, without any longer dying ego death, because one has completely transformed the mental model so there is no more ego death and such inconsistency of thinking.

In the proper hyper-Calvinist conception of heaven, one has healing, nondying, a-thanatos, eternal life, life everlasting, with no more death, no more sin-muddled thinking, no more attribution of meta-controllership to oneself, no more possibility-branching model of time and control.

For hyper-Calvinism to become consistent, it must redefine and reconceptualize ‘heaven’ and ‘hell’ including rejecting ECT (eternal conscious torment), and must reject PSA (penal substitutionary atonement).

In hyper-Calvinism, as held by John Calvin or at least as asserted by John Calvin based in merely the ordinary state of consciousness, God is the author of evil and God is the author of rebellion against God.

— Michael Hoffman, the interdisciplinary theorist of ego death

Copyright (C) 2015 Michael S. Hoffman (Egodeath.com). All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6572 From: egodeath Date: 01/01/2015
Subject: Re: Equivalent position labels in determinism and Calvinism
These positions across fields are equivalent, and are the enlightened ego death position:
1. hyper-Calvinism, in Reformed theology
2. Determinism, in Philosophy
3. Eternalism; the Eternity worldmodel, in Philosophy of Time
4. Non-branching iron block universe determinism, in Physics

These positions across fields are equivalent, and are the deluded, inconsistent, self-contradictory, essentially unstable, demon-haunted egoic position, which is liable to collapse when analyzed carefully in the loose cognitive state:
1. Arminianism, in Reformed theology
2. Free will, in Philosophy
3. Possibilism; the Possibility worldmodel, in Philosophy of Time
4. multi-verse branching universes and indeterminism, in Physics

In the middle is those who muddle-together {iron block universe determinism; Eternalism} plus {branching multi-verse; Possibilism}.

This is the tricky covert-mislabeling category.

Anyone who advocates some muddled combination or compromise of {block universe determinism} and {manyworlds branching} (some trousers model of branching time and possibility), are either actually covert {iron block universe determinism} or are actually covert {manyworlds branching multiverse} adherents.

Repeat the analysis spelling out the relationships and labels for all four fields:
1. Reformed theology; Calvinism vs. Arminianism
2. Determinism vs. free will
3. Eternity world model vs. Possibility world model; Eternalism vs. Possibilism
4. Iron block universe determinism vs. manyworlds multiverse possibility branching

Include a focus on the inconsistent middle position.

By default, per our initial state or stage which is original sin, initially in our thinking prior to regeneration by the Holy Spirit in the loose cognitive association state that is induced by the mushroom wine sacrament, we are completely inclined toward the free will or Arminian or branching universes or possibility world model (Possibilism) thinking/position.

— Michael Hoffman, the interdisciplinary theorist of ego death

Copyright (C) 2015 Michael S. Hoffman (Egodeath.com). All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6573 From: egodeath Date: 01/01/2015
Subject: Hiatus, accomplishments, outline vs. completism details
In December 2014 and January 2015 I have posted updates to ego death theory idea development.

The one remaining thing to do for this hiatus: I need to upload pictures of the diagrams I drew in 2014.

I posted idea development that is as great as anything I posted in the previous winters.

I have established 100% priority of discovery in this entire field.

I have learned and demonstrated phablet and voice dictation techniques and current technology constraints.

Updates about new books, and writing book reviews, is low priority.

I have caught up people and this idea development log record with my latest thinking and language lexicon and myth themes, and dates of key ideas of November 2013 through January 2015.

As greedy as I am for 100% priority of discovery of interpretation of the Villa of the Mysteries fresco, my complete spelling out of the interpretation and deciphering which I have successfully done of the Villa of the Mysteries is not a top priority.

As extremely profound and breakthrough as that complete deciphering of the villa of the mysteries fresco is, it is a turn-the-crank exercise applying the same interpretation mapping principles as I used for other esoteric mystery diagrams such as the Mithraism Tauroctony diagram.

I have switched to merely outlining assertions and claims, and have not even done that in full at all, spelling out all of my claims to discoveries across 10 fields.

Completeness of details is not any longer the top priority.

I have established priority in principle across-the-board, including sufficient demonstrations; the rest follows by the same pattern.

There is decreasing return on investment in demonstrating how to read one more heavy acid rock lyric, or one more esoteric diagram, or one more Bible passage, or identify one more cross-discipline connection.

It is the same deciphering language translation and mapping solution as I have posted multiple times already.

I demonstrated that the theory readily solves and maps and deciphers all such items.

Other writers have narrow focus and seek to be comprehensive in details, such as Richard Carrier and Earl Doherty in ahistoricity.

The Egodeath theory is so great and proven successful, spelling out the decipherment of the villa of the mysteries in full explicit detail — or revealing the meaning of interesting Bible passages — has become, although important, not any longer a topmost priority, given constraints and the importance of new principles more than mere further applications (no matter how great those applications) of the existing spelled-out principles.

I have to focus on profundity rather than being a completist in applying the Egodeath theory to every particular instance of song lyrics or of esoteric diagrams. Or every Bible passage that confirms interestingly that religious mythic metaphor describes visionary plants revealing Eternalism.

Further demonstrations of how the Bible confirms the Egodeath theory has become redundant and diminishing returns, even though it is fun and amazing to recognize such passages and themes in the Bible.

I showed how to read all such passages and recognize them, and I have already demonstrated multiple times how to do this in the various fields, how to recognize and read relevant equivalent themes.

I provided all the interpretive principles and the paradigm and have demonstrated how it applies to all such diagrams and all such songs and all such Bible passages and other ancient writings and later Wester-esoterism imagery and writings.

I pointed out equivalent degenerate, low religion across Christianity and Islam, and how to correct and elevate and make these religions what they potentially can and should be.

— Michael Hoffman, the interdisciplinary theorist of ego death

Copyright (C) 2015 Michael S. Hoffman (Egodeath.com). All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6574 From: egodeath Date: 01/01/2015
Subject: Re: Hiatus, accomplishments, outline vs. completism details
I spelled out well enough what led up to the tree versus snake breakthrough of November 29, 2013, and the fallout follow-through breakthroughs through June 2014, and how it felt, and why it felt so surprising, and spelled out the broad-ranging ramifications well enough.

M hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6575 From: egodeath Date: 01/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
Myth, fairy tales, literary stories, and the Bible are so similar, they have been visually illustrated in a book series.

Brick Greek Myths
2014
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/162914522X/
Group: egodeath Message: 6576 From: egodeath Date: 01/01/2015
Subject: Re: Dutch translation: De Entheogene Theorie van Religie en Ego Dood
Not sure the Egodeath theory was translated into Russian.
Group: egodeath Message: 6577 From: egodeath Date: 01/01/2015
Subject: Re: I am Science, Religion, and the University
I haven’t established criteria for granting degrees.

>>I grant degrees, accredited by me, to Max and cyber D

— Professor Loosecog, elucidator of control distortion
Group: egodeath Message: 6578 From: egodeath Date: 01/01/2015
Subject: Re: Voice recognition text input thread
I think I first learned of ahistoricity in a library search on “mushroom christianity” and found a rebuttal to Allegro.

>>I learned about no historical Jesus through the book strange fruit
Group: egodeath Message: 6579 From: egodeath Date: 01/01/2015
Subject: Re: I am Science, Religion, and the University
BSTK
Bachelor of Science in Transcendent Knowledge

University of Egodeath

Professor Michael Hoffman, Doctor of Philosophy, Transcendent Knowledge (2014). Professor Loosecog. Formulator and discoverer of the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence and the Egodeath theory.
Group: egodeath Message: 6580 From: egodeath Date: 01/01/2015
Subject: Re: I am Science, Religion, and the University
For now, I am granting the BSTK degree to freak & cyber. Congratulations.

BSTK
Bachelor of Science in Transcendent Knowledge

Professor Michael Hoffman, Doctor of Philosophy, Transcendent Knowledge (2014). Professor Loosecog. Formulator and discoverer of the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence and the Egodeath theory. Founder, University of Egodeath.
Group: egodeath Message: 6581 From: egodeath Date: 01/01/2015
Subject: Re: I am Science, Religion, and the University
Group: egodeath Message: 6582 From: egodeath Date: 02/01/2015
Subject: Re: I am Science, Religion, and the University
I have not defined BSTK vs. MSTK vs. PhD TK. I acknowledge the advanced levels, beyond bachelors’ level, that grantees have done at other universities.
Group: egodeath Message: 6583 From: egodeath Date: 02/01/2015
Subject: Re: I am Science, Religion, and the University
This is not a granting of “honorary degrees”; these are earned degrees.

— Michael Hoffman, PhD TK, founder, University of Egodeath
Group: egodeath Message: 6584 From: egodeath Date: 02/01/2015
Subject: Re: I am Science, Religion, and the University
I owe you three grantees a diploma.

I am not now committing to any further action along these lines.

— Michael Hoffman, the Egodeath theorist
Group: egodeath Message: 6585 From: egodeath Date: 02/01/2015
Subject: Re: I am Science, Religion, and the University
My PhD TK was earned on June 14, 2014 when I txted my girl friend Carol from 1986-1987 the principle that any pair of key mythemes implies the entire system of {myth describes entheogens revealing Eternalism}.

That txt finished and completed the fallout from the Thanksgiving week 2013 {tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism} breakthrough.

The fallout included solving and deciphering {the staff of Aesculapius} on January 21, 2014 and {Moses’ rigid bronze serpent on a pole as debranched tree}, and the maximally condensed, simplified, communicable, and efficient diagram of {king steering tree wine snake puppet rock}.

The University of Egodeath was founded January 1, 2015 and my PhD granted on that date.

— Professor Michael Hoffman, Doctor of Philosophy, Transcendent Knowledge (2014). Professor Loosecog. Formulator and discoverer of the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence and the Egodeath theory. Founder, University of Egodeath.

— Some Guy On The Internet

Some guys on the Internet have just surpassed the old establishment, resoundingly.

We some guys on the Internet have just become the standard, rather than the old establishment.
Group: egodeath Message: 6586 From: egodeath Date: 02/01/2015
Subject: Re: I am Science, Religion, and the University
I grant the three grantees authority to design, share, and print a classic Gothic traditional color sealed diploma with your legal name, to frame and hang, from the University of Egodeath, signed by me.

— Professor Michael Hoffman, Doctor of Philosophy, Transcendent Knowledge (2014). Professor Loosecog. Formulator and discoverer of the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence and the Egodeath theory. Founder, University of Egodeath.
Group: egodeath Message: 6587 From: egodeath Date: 02/01/2015
Subject: Re: I am Science, Religion, and the University
Also I grant the three grantees the authority to create a matching MSTK and PhD TK diploma version.

Not to award the MSTK to anyone yet.

The PhD diploma design variant is for one copy, to award me.

— Professor Michael Hoffman, Doctor of Philosophy, Transcendent Knowledge (2014). Professor Loosecog. Formulator and discoverer of the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence and the Egodeath theory. Founder, University of Egodeath.
Group: egodeath Message: 6588 From: egodeath Date: 02/01/2015
Subject: Re: I am Science, Religion, and the University
I have not defined levels of degrees.
I do not have the time now.

There are arguments for assigning any of the degree levels to these 3 grantees.

The 3 grantees will have the same level of degree.

There are other students as well who have attempted to study the Egodeath theory at an advanced level within academia.

I have no plan now to evaluate additional candidates or define a policy. Everyone desires this bona fide higher knowledge studying and teaching opportunity.

The universities have not taught people higher knowledge.

— Michael Hoffman


I plan to turn off “Show email address” in this discussion group. It was set by default.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor%27s_degree

A bachelor’s degree (also baccalaureate, from Modern Latin baccalaureatus) is usually earned for an undergraduate course of study that nominally requires three to five years of study (depending on institution and field of study). In some cases, it may also be the name of a second graduate degree, such as a Bachelor of Laws(LL.B.), Bachelor of Education (B.Ed.), Bachelor of Civil Law, the Bachelor of Music, the Bachelor of Philosophy, or the Bachelor of Sacred Theology, degree which in some countries are only offered after a first graduate/bachelor’s degree.
The term bachelor (Middle Latin baccalarius) in the 14th century referred to a young squire in training, and by the end of the century was also used of junior members of guilds or universities. By folk etymology or wordplay, the word baccalaureus came to be associated with bacca lauri or “laurel berry” in reference to laurels being awarded for academic success or honours.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master%27s_degree

A master’s degree is an academic degree granted to individuals who have undergone study demonstrating a mastery or high-order overview of a specific field of study or area of professional practice.[1] Within the area studied, graduates are posited to possess advanced knowledge of a specialized body of theoretical and applied topics; high order skills in analysis, critical evaluation, or professional application; and the ability to solve complex problems and think rigorously and independently. The degree is awarded upon graduation from a university.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctorate

A doctorate is an academic degree or professional degree that, in most countries, qualifies the holder to teach at the university level in the specific field of his or her degree, or to work in a specific profession. In some countries, the highest degree in a given field is called a terminal degree. The term “doctorate” derives from the Latin docere meaning “to teach”.
Group: egodeath Message: 6589 From: egodeath Date: 02/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
Everyone thinks of time as a space-like dimension; it is the opposite of a new idea from 20th-century physics.

The other day, when we were flying high up in the air, a Physics professor pointed out to me that in the early 20th Century, physicists had a classical education.

This is why Popper was able to address Einstein as ‘Parmenides’ regarding the ideas around iron block universe determinism with time as a space-like dimension.

The physics professor asserted that time as a space-like dimension is a recent idea; he seemed to want to put it in the 1950s.

My 1987 university modern physics course presented the idea of block time as if a prerequisite from Minkowsky preceding the 1905 theory of relativity.

The professor said educated physics professors already had mystic ideas prior to working on physics models and they used forms of mysticism ideas to brainstorm to look for physics models.

He had not heard of Rudy Rucker’s book the Fourth Dimension, which expands the 1884 book Flatland to block universe time; block time, equating that with mystic ideas.

Against other people and our prideful modern inclination, I assert that:

Time as a space-like dimension is a self-evident and screamingly obvious idea that is especially thrust at us in the visionary plant loose cognitive association state such as salvia or mushrooms.

Block time must have been known to and thought of by everyone in all areas from greatest antiquity through the ancient Greeks, the Hellenistic era, and the 2nd Century, 1530 Reformed esotericism, 1884 Flatland, and in 1905 with relativity.

When I recognized possibility non-branching in the 1530 painting, it was embarrassingly obvious how elementary and fundamental the contrast between the two models of time and control is and how perfect and straightforward is the representation of block time as tree versus snake, just as natural of an idea to use as in the Stanford page on the metaphysics of time, which requires no understanding of modern physics or relativity or quantum physics.

I go back to the forest patch walking the branching paths looking at trees and mushrooms and rocks.

Of course naturally time is thought of as a space-like dimention.

It is already natural for us to think of a time as a space-like dimension.

That is actually the given.

We just haven’t elaborated on the idea but it is an inmate idea; all that remains is to think it through, to think-through our innate natural analogy of time as a space-like dimension.

The most obvious analogy in the world is “time is like a space dimension”. This is the very opposite of a new or remote or difficult or distant analogy; this is dirt simple and everyone uses this analogy all the time!

What other way could we possibly think about time other than as a space-like dimension?

Go back to Hofstadter’s elementary fundamentals of “analogy as the basic way thinking works”.

The moment you have human thinking, you have the analogy, elementary and obvious and about as short a distance as you can imagine, “time is like a space dimension”.

Mystic metaphysics and modern physics merely takes that elementary, given analogy and elaborates it.

— Michael Hoffman, the interdisciplinary theorist of ego death
Copyright (C) 2015 Michael S. Hoffman (Egodeath.com). All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6590 From: egodeath Date: 02/01/2015
Subject: Re: Hiatus, accomplishments, outline vs. completism details
I must stop writing up and posting for the moment so that I can work on software.
Group: egodeath Message: 6591 From: egodeath Date: 02/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
The dimensions of the Jewish temple are fourfold: breadth, height, depth, and width.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=breadth+height+depth+width

Block time is an idea found in the most remote, distant times, far away from our time, as well as in times that are near, close by, close to our time.

— Michael Hoffman, the interdisciplinary theorist of ego death
Group: egodeath Message: 6592 From: egodeath Date: 02/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
My conversation with the Physics professor who asserted block time is a 1950s idea reminds me that physics has jumped the shark and is where you will find the most confused thinking today.

Shoelace strings tied together, Physics falls on its face.

Instead look to Engineering for clear thinking, which is where the Egodeath theory came from in this new dispensation of Revelation, which is elementary clear thinking.

M hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6593 From: egodeath Date: 02/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
Block time is as old as rock.
Group: egodeath Message: 6594 From: egodeath Date: 02/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
When we modern scientific engineering thinkers through me finally arrived at the recognition of tree vs. snake on November 29, 2013, the old ancients of the greatest antiquity and the early modern thinkers of 1530 together asked me:

What took you guys so long? Are you late, belated thinkers of the future mentally slow?

Welcome to the mixed-wine banquet party, you too-late arrivals, you extreme laggards at the very tail-end of time.

This moment of greatest, most elementary discovery and breakthrough of recognition did not make me feel smart.

This long-belated recognition of the tree vs. snake, and clear simple contrast between the possibility versus eternity models of time and control, made me feel that all the way up to that moment, I had been stupid and mentally slow to grasp the glaringly obvious.

Shouldn’t this all have been self-evident at the moment of my core theory, crystalline ground of being, cybernetics breakthrough of January 1988?

This blindness, in religious mythic metaphor is likened to a veil that is over our eyes, blinding us from being able to see clearly.

One of my breakthroughs in bible interpretation, a point that baffles and puzzles all who respect Jesus, is interpretation of Jesus healing the blind man.

Jesus takes the blind man from:

1. initially seeing nothing, to

2. seeing people incorrectly as TREES (is Jesus struggling and failed to heal? Perish the thought, you clueless blind interpreters!), to

3. (after the failed, struggling healer Jesus tries harder the second time) finally seeing people clearly (which would be, as snakes).

“Criterion of embarrassment”?
The interpreters ought to be embarrassed at not having any idea of the “people that look like trees” in the intermediate step of the blind man seeing.

Did they all miss the 10,000 statements in the gospels that Jesus speaks in parables? All Bible interpreters ought to be reading Douglas Hofstadter on analogy and metaphor.

The blind man is all these bible interpreters, who perceive nothing, not even the word ‘trees’ that is right in front of their face, out in the open, hidden from them in plain sight.


Interpreters are baffled when they see Jesus equated to, likened to a snake.

Bible interpreters are baffled when the snake is positively valued as enlightenment and revelation in the Bible.

Is not, they say, the snake evil, the source of sin and spiritual blindness, as our preachers tell us that the Bible tells us?

Close your Bibles and read antiquity instead, as the context.

Nothing misleads like a blind preacher telling what the Bible says.

What brittle, blind, unthinking thinking.

It is evident that no one *reads* the Bible, except with their eyes closed.

Now with the Egodeath theory, people may, for the first time, read the Bible with their eyes open, instead of closed.


Control agents are not kings steering in a tree; banqueting mixed wine reveals that people are snake-shaped puppets frozen into rock.

My seal’s esoteric diagram:
king steering tree wine snake puppet rock

— Michael Hoffman, the interdisciplinary theorist of ego death
Copyright (C) 2015 Michael S. Hoffman (Egodeath.com). All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6595 From: egodeath Date: 02/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
the old ancients of the remotest, farthest-away antiquity, and the early modern thinkers of 1530 nearby in time, close to the present time, together asked me
Group: egodeath Message: 6596 From: egodeath Date: 02/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
The metaphor {time is like distance} is an innate metaphor hardwired into the human mind.

Around 1900 there was also the standard metaphor of the ancients are above us in time and then we come down through history so that 1900 is only a little ways above the present day, whereas the year 100 is much farther above the present.

I reject the evolutionism notion that ancients had different minds than moderns. They had different minds only because they integrated psychedelics as the core of their culture, the common point of reference.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=metaphor+time+distance

http://lera.ucsd.edu/papers/duration-cognition-2008.pdf

https://www.repository.cam.ac.uk/bitstream/handle/1810/244216/Schnall_Are%20there%20basic%20metaphors.pdf?sequence=1

http://www.academia.edu/9658306/Introduction_the_Metaphor_of_HistorIcal_Distance


According to the physics professor I spoke with a few days ago, {block universe determinism with time as a space like dimension} is an idea from the 1950s — that was his specific assertion, which can only be true in some narrow sense, some particular Physics use of equations.

Is the Physics professor thinking too hard? Is he losing sight of plain truth, lost in equations and some specific ridiculously particular sense of the assertion?

The narrow particular idea goes back at least to 1900 in physics, proved by William James disparaging the idea. How could William James disparage iron block universe determinism if it was an idea in physics from the 1950s?

What the venerable university physics professor told me has got to be simply wrong, or correct in some irrelevant, inconsequential sense.

The Physics professor asserted to me that the idea of {block universe determinism with time as a space like dimension} was not used in 1905 relativity development but was only added later in schools to teach relativity, as a pedagogy clarification technique.

I felt and conclude that this venerable Physics professor doesn’t know what the hell he is talking about, unless there is some narrow, particular, hair-splitting sense of what he means.

I remain, as since 1987, completely distrusting of anything recent physicists say. If it comes out of the mouth of a recent physicist, it is confusion. All authority is collapsing, including contemporary physics.


I was mystified by authority and what the word ‘authority’ means.

But now I find I am the leading, main authority on transcendent knowledge.

What I say, about religion, myth, time, control, and altered states, remains standing after being tested.

What I say is generally trustworthy and can be resoundingly confirmed.

What other people say on these matters cannot be trusted and is often not valid. They are not an authority; I am.

Part of my authority rests on widespread reading, as well as my own sound thinking, based in experience and removing self-contradictions.

Being an authority means highly fact-checked and accurate, and not a lot of nonsense and baloney.

In the dangerous area of the peak window of the mystic altered state, an authority can be relied on to show the dangers as a trustworthy guide, and how to accommodate them.

An authority is accurate, complete, and reliable, roadworthy.

An authority is wise, not foolish.

— Michael Hoffman, the authority on ego death
Group: egodeath Message: 6597 From: egodeath Date: 03/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
Minkowsky–>Minkowski

Everyone debates (lost in the forest of detail as usual):
Presentism vs. Eternalism

The interesting contrast though according to the mystic altered state and myth is:
Possibilism vs. Eternalism

These debates (phil o time) are as one-dimensional as they are hyper-detailed with trivia and pedantry. They are not interdisciplinary, and lack vision; cannot provide revelation.

Entheogens cause experiencing to shift from innate idea of Possibilism to innate idea of Eternalism.

Visionary plants cause an experiential shift from Possibilism (tree) to Eternalism (snake).

— Michael Hoffman, the interdisciplinary theorist of ego death
Copyright (C) 2015 Michael S. Hoffman (Egodeath.com). All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6598 From: egodeath Date: 03/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
In 1907-1908, Einstein’s teacher Minkowski presented the block universe interpretation of relativity.

So I cannot see what the Physics professor I spoke with could possibly mean by placing the block universe idea in the 1950s; I must conclude he is not an authority but is shockingly full of baloney.

I’m disappointed in him like ahistoricists are disappointed in Bart Ehrman.

I had assumed and expected you would be informed in your reply but it is embarrassingly uninformed and worthless on that point, though you spoke as if you were informed and certain.
Group: egodeath Message: 6599 From: egodeath Date: 03/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
Psychedelics cause an experiential shift from Possibilism to Eternalism.

Possibilism –> psychedelic mixed wine eucharist –> Eternalism

Possibilism –> psychedelics –> Eternalism

Tree –> Wine –> Snake

king/steering/tree –> wine/hunt/search/see –> snake/puppet/rock

Possibilism and Eternalism are two opposed mental world-models of time, possibility, and control.

Possibilism is like a tree; a king steering in a tree of possibilities.
Eternalism is like a snake; a world line; your life is shaped like a snake, your control is like a puppet forced to steer along a rigid rail frozen into rock.

Psychedelics = entheogens= visionary plants = eucharist = Lord’s supper = communion of the saints = sacred meal = Jesus’ flesh & blood = mixed wine = ‘wine’ = mushrooms, LSD, ayahuasca, peyote/mescaline

— Michael Hoffman, the interdisciplinary theorist of ego death
Copyright (C) 2015 Michael S. Hoffman (Egodeath.com). All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6600 From: egodeath Date: 03/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
tree –> mushroom –> snake

Possibilism –> psychedelics –> Eternalism

— Michael Hoffman, the interdisciplinary theorist of ego death
Copyright (C) 2015 Michael S. Hoffman (Egodeath.com). All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6601 From: egodeath Date: 03/01/2015
Subject: Re: Deciphered: tree vs. snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism
tree –> fruit –> snake

tree –> apple –> snake

tree –> amanita –> snake

One’s head coming out of a snake can be centered in the tree. The psyche can be overpowered by Eternalism thus the psyche is a female, a maiden subject to death — ego death, the cessation and collapse of the steering-king illusion that the nondual ground of being projects outward.

— Michael Hoffman, the interdisciplinary theorist of ego death
Copyright (C) 2015 Michael S. Hoffman (Egodeath.com). All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6602 From: egodeath Date: 03/01/2015
Subject: History of block universe
Prehistory: the human mind begins with innate possibility model, consumes visionary plants triggering innate eternity model.
psychedelics cause an experiential shift from possibility to eternity world model.
Entheogens trigger an experiential shift from Possibilism to Eternalism.

700 bc ancient near East sacred Groves with snakes in trees
Ancient near East analogy figure of start of Bible; Genesis 3: tree of the knowledge of good and evil with a snake in it

500 bc Parmenides.

100 staff of Asclepius popular. Heimarmene popular.

200 transcending block universe is popular.

1000 Anselm. http://www.anselm.edu/Documents/Institute%20for%20Saint%20Anselm%20Studies/Abstracts/4.5.3.2f_32Rogers.pdf

1530 Lucas Cranach painting “Eve tempted by the serpent” showing snake, tree, branching, branches, branching antlers of stag

1907-1908 Einstein’s teacher Minkowski presents interpretation of relativity supporting block universe

[year] William James criticizes iron block universe.

[year] Popper addresses Einstein as ‘Parmenides’.

1985 Rudy Rucker book the fourth dimension.

1988 Michael Hoffman shows loose cognition reveals {problematic personal control cybernetics in light of block universe ground of being} as the real essence of ego transcendence as opposed to the {non-duality} pop spirituality conception of ego transcendence. Summarized at Principia Cybernetica website January 1997.

2006 Michael Hoffman writes main article: the entheogen theory of religion and ego death, mapping myth to the experiential shift from possibility to eternity world model.

2013 Michael Hoffman:
identifies ancient metaphor analogy tree versus snake means Possibilism vs. Eternalism,
deciphers staff of asclepius and Moses’ snake on a pole as debranched tree,
deciphers and masters the language of analogy in world myth and especially Mediterranean antiquity myth including Christianity and possibility nonbranching.
Myth describes visionary plants revealing eternity world model.

See the good wide-ranging website on history of free will.

— Michael Hoffman, the interdisciplinary theorist of ego death
Copyright (C) 2015 Michael S. Hoffman (Egodeath.com). All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6603 From: egodeath Date: 03/01/2015
Subject: Re: History of block universe
Good wide-ranging website on history of free will
http://www.informationphilosopher.com/freedom/history/
Group: egodeath Message: 6604 From: egodeath Date: 03/01/2015
Subject: Re: History of block universe
Anselm created PSA penal substitutionary atonement and he used time as a spacelike dimension; block universe. Penal is punishment. Block universe contradicts penal. Maybe he used Neoplatonism to split the contradiction: the body is subject to law of fate, soul or spirit is not. To affirm and transcend fatedness.

I see determinism as a particular theory of how fate mechanically works. I see determinism as a thinking tool to help think about fate. But another such tool is presetness of the future, and another distinct idea is monopossibility (alternate possibilities are illusion).

In loose cognition we *experience* not causal chain determinism operating across time, but rather, presetness and lack of meta steering power.

M hoffman
Group: egodeath Message: 6605 From: egodeath Date: 03/01/2015
Subject: Books on snake and tree and block universe
An amazon wish list could be an effective way to link to relevant books:
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Group: egodeath Message: 6606 From: egodeath Date: 03/01/2015
Subject: Re: Books on snake and tree and block universe
In a two-level system, healing means moving from
naïve free-will thinking to
realization of no-free-will.

The terminal point is the snake on a debranched tree.

In a three-level system, subsequently almost immediately following in history, no-free-will is the problem, and to heal we need to transcend no-free-will.

You move from
naïve free-will-thinking to
no-free-will
but now in the newer, three-level system, you no longer consider no-free-will to be healing; now we need to transcend no-free-will, to be healed.

The Old Testament and Hellenistic era used the two-level system: the terminal point is no-free-will, the snake and tree.

In the New Testament and post-Hellenistic era, the Christian and non-Christian thinking moved up above the sphere of the fixed stars, so now the terminal point is transcending no-free-will. Leaky metaphors.

This three-level system blurs and dilutes and splits apart the idea of healing, smearing the idea of healing across both level two and level three.

In a three-level-system, is healing to be identified with no-free-will, or with transcending no-free-will?

The body is healed by realizing no-free-will. The soul or spirit is healed by transcending no-free-will. That is the closest we can come to resolving the contradictory ideas, the waffling, the change of heart between the earlier and later era, the change of valuation from positively valuing no-free-will to negatively valuing it.

The problem is indicated in the visual representation of no free will which is snake versus tree, that is level two in a in the three-level system.

It is contradictory or blatantly inconsistent to say that the symbol of healing which is level two which is snake-in-tree is somehow not healing, and we need further healing to transcend the healing, to transcend the snake and tree, to transcend no-free-will.

This is a problem for the three-level system; already the symbol of snake and tree commits to saying that no free will is healing! How can we then turn around and say no-free-will is the problem we need to be healed from?

The visual depiction of no free will is already clearly established as the symbol of healing: the snake on the tree.

Now we’re going to turn around and say that that healing as realizing and perceiving no-free-will, depicted as snake versus tree, is not healing, and that is the thing we need to be healed from.

The imagery of {snake vs. tree} was firmly equated with healing, both in the staff of Asclepius and in Moses’ healing image of {rigid snake on a debranched tree} (pole).

What a mess resulted from trying to one-up the healing symbol of snake on tree, to transcend the idea of {healing equals no-free-will realization}.

What a mess I am left to present and explain – a communication challenge, since I have figured out the two systems that were sequential in history and in the Bible.

The OT is 2-level.
The NT was used later as 3-level. But the NT itself seems 2-level.

Is {transcending no-free-will} a biblical idea, or was it added in theology later?

In the later era, pagan and Christian both sought to transcend no-free-will, rise above the sphere of fixed stars, as in Ptolemaic Astral ascent mysticism.

I have just identified a imagery contradiction between transcending the fixed stars versus the earlier popular idea of {healing as snake versus tree} which equals {the sphere of the fixed stars}.

Which one is healing:
reaching the fixed stars or
rising above the fixed stars

The sphere of the fixed stars is equivalent to snake versus tree.

In the three-level system, the fixed stars is the problem; we need to be healed from enslavement to fate.

Enslavement to fate is snake versus tree.

Fate is the snake versus tree.

Does fate heal as according to the two-level system, or is fate the sickness we need to be healed from, as implied in the three-level system, where the terminal point goal is to transcend fate; transcend the snake versus tree; transcend healing?

I am left with having to explain clearly this stark imagery contradiction around the symbol of snake vs. tree = no free-will = healing.

— Michael Hoffman, the interdisciplinary theorist of ego death
Copyright (C) 2015 Michael S. Hoffman (Egodeath.com). All Rights Reserved.
Group: egodeath Message: 6607 From: egodeath Date: 03/01/2015
Subject: Re: Books on snake and tree and block universe
I am so far ahead of others that I am elucidating problems that aren’t even on anyone else’s radar.
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