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I am here too wreck and ruin cyber disciples neat and clean distinctions stylized images of mushrooms versus depictions of mushroom effects and the simplistic distinction between texts evidence and art evidence these so-called Stylizations it turns out I don’t believe that I I refuse to believe that I had a clearer concept of this a clear grasp of this in November 2020 or February 2021 it turns out I think they truly new idea for March 2022 is what are these stylizations what is the most important of the stylizations it turns out that the most important of the stylizations is it self the most important of the depictions of the mental cognitive affects the transformative mental model transformative effects and that’s an experience shall affect it’s a transformation of the mental model that’s driven by experiencing especially the disappearance of the experiencing of branching possibilities being replaced by the experience of non-branching possibilities and the ramifications for and feeling sensation of personal control power to steer through such branching at the peak of importance the most important stylization of the mushroom shapes in art is exactly identical with the most important of
The depictions of the effects of mushrooms
the two meet
the most important stylization is that which most potently describes and depicts the peak ultimate experiential transformation experience
I’m not really approaching this this critique of art versus text I’m not approaching it in the conventional way I am
i’m having a different realization from a different angle I’m sensing that the focus on text is irrelevant and miss placed and miss guided
if the primary communication medium for an illiterate culture is art , why would we say that text medium is more important than pictorial art medium, given that it is a non-literate culture?
I am reversing the values and telling Hatsis that text is less important than art evidence text evidence is less relevant
text evidence is less relevant and less important in this middle ages era then art evidence
the primary communication medium the standard primary communication medium among the non-literate populace is art images not text
and they would even look at text or consider a text from an arc point of you like illuminated manuscripts
I continue to press the argument that Canterbury
Fake scholarly pretend engagement to deflect
change of subject here
we are sick to death of the brain dead arguments which are muddleheaded deflections and refusals to engage reason refusals to make explicit chain link by chain-link rational structured arguments
we are tired of avoiding that of this avoidance and deflection and dismissal this fake pretense were scholars pretend to take up the subject but they don’t actually take up the subject of interpreting mushrooms in Christian art
70 years of deflection, 70 years of fake pretend make-believe scholarship but not actually taking up in good faith with serious reason
Jesus historicity debate was a total loss for academia; predictably similarly Entheogens Studies debate will be a total loss for the academic establishment, predictably
oh here’s a thought I keep thinking this I can’t
I can’t believe it has taken me so long to communicate to get around to making this point but
this is an exact repeat this having to pin the scholars down that they scream like a baby that you’re trying to feed it food and they don’t know I don’t wanna eat that I don’t want it
we have seen this before we have been through this before Richard carrier in the field of
before he ruined the field PS he ruined Richard carrier absolutely ruined it as a separate topic but I don’t see any connection why but Richard carriers he destroyed seemingly single-handedly destroyed the field of atheism conferences and the topic of the topical domain of or the field of atheism Richard carrier single-handedly destroyed and terminated and ended the field of popular atheism studies but anyway I think
his work is great on a historicity but I think he’s just a terrible person but
I’m talking about his particular studies in the field I’m not talking about him as a person just like you can you can detest and despise a musical artist while still enjoying the music
Academia finally agreed to do an actual debate about Jesus history and predictably, they totally bellyflopped and lost; it was a blowout win, a pathetic fizzle conclusion of the great ahistoricity research era
Richard carrier went all Asperger’s and he and other people too they press the point and they went to the scholars in the academia the scholars who always refused those ones of the scholars who chant is it
a spiritual religious chant all the time they said
this has been settled 😑
been debunked 😑
no reputable scholar would assert ahistoricity of Jesus. 😑
we scholars have already investigated this. 😑
obviously we scholars have already thoroughly studied this matter and raise these questions of debate of them and settled them but no we are not willing to debate these points because they’re not worth debating because they are so settled that it’s not worth debating or discussing them 😑
and these are pure smokescreen because the scholars have not in fact taken up in a serious actual bona fide scholarly way the question of a historicity did Jesus exist as an identifiable single identifiable person or was Jesus created by a confluence :
the big bang conventional theory which is the historicity position
Versus
the gradual coalescing theory which is the ahistoricity theory of Jesus of the formation of the figure of Jesus
Dr. Jerry Brown was wise when he didn’t make any statements other than saying we believe “we agree with those who believe Jesus existed” – and then he stopped, and he shut up , so he didn’t say anything stupid and foolish like “been debunked” – see the list of smokescreen empty Bluffs above. The academic establishment historicizes colossally lost why would you think they lost by arguing by finally being forced to engage an actual bona fide argumentation of course predictably they got it handed to them they fumbled and bumble they’ve got nothing they have nothing but empty bluff everyone knew it and nobody was surprised when they suffered a complete blowout absolute defeat when they were finally coerced into doing an actual debate is this the a historicity people of course had their act together they had their blades all sharpened they would
they would not have pressed the point unless they knew that they were guaranteed to win and Richard carrier really kind of wrapped it all up with a bow and he converted all the argumentation into probabilities which was a good way of accounting for every argument and he knew he did we we a history we thumbs down Jesus people we knew we would when we knew we were right we knew that all the arguments supported us so we knew that it was a guaranteed win we knew that if there was ever if we could ever get the academics to to fight us we knew we had a guaranteed win and so did the academics which is precisely why the academic
academics refused to debate because they knew they had nothing they knew they had nothing but empty vapor the academics knew it the Jesus deniers knew it everyone knew it and I only I guess the surprising thing is why did Bart airmen agree to the debate that he was guaranteed to lose and as totally predictable his book came up with nothing and it was a complete blowout failure a total loss for on the part of academic establishment and and and that was it and so like we were done we finished like what do we do now case closed game over
So as as everyone knew the day that academia engages with that question it’s game over for academia and that’s why you get nothing but fluffpretend engagement made with great errors because it’s all put on it’s all an act it’s all the con game it’s all putting on actor we’re going to act I’m going to bluff and we’re gonna make big claims were going to make big empty claims and strut around because that’s all we’ve got is pseudo-arguments claims that we are the ones in best position we are the ones who are best position because we wrote a random book about art and therefore all your decades of anthropology experience in all your decades of intelligent research all your decades of mycology count for nothing because I wrote a random generic book on art they had no focus on mushroom trees therefore I’m in better position than you are that’s this is the caliber that we will Garin pretend engagement made with great errors because it’s all put on it’s all an act it’s all the con game it’s all putting on actor we’re going to act I’m going to bluff and we’re gonna make big claims were going to make big empty claims and strut around because that’s all we’ve got is pseudo-arguments claims that we are the ones in best position we are the ones who are best position because we wrote a random book about art and therefore all your decades of anthropology experience in all your decades of intelligent research all your decades of mycology count for nothing because I wrote a random generic book on art they had no focus on mushroom trees therefore I’m in better position than you are that’s this is the caliber that we will Garinpretend engagement made with great errors because it’s all put on it’s all an act it’s all the con game it’s all putting on actor we’re going to act I’m going to bluff and we’re gonna make big claims were going to make big empty claims and strut around because that’s all we’ve got is pseudo-arguments claims that we are the ones in best position we are the ones who are best position because we wrote a random book about art and therefore all your decades of anthropology experience in all your decades of intelligent research all your decades of mycology count for nothing because I wrote a random generic book on art they had no focus on mushroom trees therefore I’m in better position than you are that’s this is the caliber that we will Garin
we are guaranteed to never get anything better than this level this is peak this is the best they’ve got the mushroom deniers this is the best they’ve got this is the only thing they’ve got is sheer arbitrary Bluff a puff of vapor followed by another puff of vapor and then they add some logically sounding words like therefore ipso facto reason dictates and then it’s just arbitrary puffs of sheer assertion that all goes against the truth and it all goes against the evidence and they know it and they know that if they engage it’s a redux we’ve been through all of this before it’s gonna be another total blowout complete absolute loss for the establishment which is why Wason censored out Brinkman’s book Kanoski saidwe are guaranteed to never get anything better than this level this is peak this is the best they’ve got the mushroom deniers this is the best they’ve got this is the only thing they’ve got is sheer arbitrary Bluff a puff of vapor followed by another puff of vapor and then they add some logically sounding words like therefore ipso facto reason dictates and then it’s just arbitrary puffs of sheer assertion that all goes against the truth and it all goes against the evidence and they know it and they know that if they engage it’s a redux we’ve been through all of this before it’s gonna be another total blowout complete absolute loss for the establishment which is why Wason censored out Brinkman’s book Kanoski said
Panofsky said I am a professional academic so I am obliged to provide a citation for my bedtime just so story and he provided that but Wason knew this ain’t gonna work the more that we engage with this issue the more we’re gonna lose the truth is against us and we’ve got to prevent an actual investigation we’ve got to prevent people from looking at Brinckmann’s book because the more that they look into this whole subject the more the pope in the Bankster’s are going to lose there’s a battle has been declared against the mushroom by the impostors and the impostors know that the more that people research the more the people will find the truthPanofsky said I am a professional academic so I am obliged to provide a citation for my bedtime just so story and he provided that but Wason knew this ain’t gonna work the more that we engage with this issue the more we’re gonna lose the truth is against us and we’ve got to prevent an actual investigation we’ve got to prevent people from looking at Brinckmann’s book because the more that they look into this whole subject the more the pope in the Bankster’s are going to lose there’s a battle has been declared against the mushroom by the impostors and the impostors know that the more that people research the more the people will find the truth
The frauds know that that they’ve got to prevent research the fraudulent people know that they need to put out a kind of an argumentation that will discourage research they need to sound as if they’re putting forth arguments they need to sound as if they are confident as if they have considered the matter and as if they have made qualified informed considerations and reasonings and conclusions they know they have to send out a smokescreen Hayes in order to deflect and cover up and hide and prevent any actual investigation Panofsky tried to act like a professional and provide a citation but Wasson knew that wouldn’t work that he would have to allude to citations and give the impression of their existing citations without actually helping people to do any research his mission was to dissuade and head off looking into the matter so everything every word that Wassen presented in Spohn and let through and allowed to be printed with all crafted with the great mission of shut down any investigation into this matter don’t give people citations do the opposite tell them there’s no need for you little people to worry your heads about looking into this because the number one our authority my buddy has already assured me and he’s probably got I’m sure he’s got great citations but he and the authorities were best position I’ve already looked into thisthat he would have to allude to citations and give the impression of their existing citations without actually helping people to do any research his mission was to dissuade and head off looking into the matter so everything every word that Wassen presented in Spohn and let through and allowed to be printed with all crafted with the great mission of shut down any investigation into this matter don’t give people citations do the opposite tell them there’s no need for you little people to worry your heads about looking into this because the number one our authority my buddy has already assured me and he’s probably got I’m sure he’s got great citations but he and the authorities were best position I’ve already looked into this
so there is no need for any of you little people to do any research of your own we’ve settled the matter the matter is settled the authorities know that the here’s the story here’s your bedtime story you’re just so story story time bedtime story and we’ve worked out the story in great detail so let the adults handle this the mycologist in their ignorance made understandable blunder so please don’t make yourself look foolish don’t look into this matter the adults and top or authorities have already thoroughly taken up this matter and investigated it and it’s a done deal so don’t even think about there’s no way that mushrooms mean mushrooms end of discussion
case closed it’s already settled it’s just a silly popular idea pay no attention to those mushrooms which are not mushrooms which we referred to as Mushroom trees please do not listen to us when we refer to them as Mushroom Trees and so it’s a strategy of ridicule and Hayes and pseudo reasoning we’ve been through all of this exactly before we’ve done these exact dance steps before with the historicity of Jesus it’s all bluff all pretense bluster and phony posturing that’s all they’ve got is propaganda rhetoric to dissuade people from doing research because they know the establishment academics know perfectly well that they’re telling a lie and that the more the people
The academics know that their they’ve got no case and that they’re declaring war against the mushrooms and that the mushrooms are the real deal so it’s a giant cover-up operation is exactly what it is a cover-up operation try to steer and deflect treated poo poo it treated is not even worth just laugh it away laugh it off steer people away treated as a popular frivolous silly notion be dismissive of it don’t honor it with a genuine engagement because you will lose academic establishment will lose because they’re all based on a falsehood and lies going against mushrooms which is the real deal so he’s got to prevent any actual engagement we’ve got to do Sudo
we’ve got to convert this issue into a pseudo-engagement don’t let it become an actual investigation research actual scholarship we’ve got to avoid and so you can see that you can see this hack popular journalist riding against Dr. Jerry Brown you’ve got it’s all hack decoy fake pseudo- scholarship pseudo-argumentation pseudo-engagement that’s actually designed to prevent engagement it’s prevention of engagement which is shaped as if it’s engagement to prevent it’s all decoy pseudo- engagement which is exactly how it comes across these are all specious arguments they have tons and tons they spin out specious arguments all day and night and that’s all they’ve got nothing adds up because it really genuinely doesn’t add up and they know it
Richard carrier wrote a couple books on there and other people in that era around 2012 around 2010 people finally forced the issue in that field and they forced who is it Robert airman they finally forced ADP and they made Robert air Bart Bart ermine they forced him to write a book and actually deal with it and make a bona fide genuine engagement for the first time it’s the first time that that the alternative people
like I’ve been describing the picture of you you have to grab the scholar by the scruff of the neck and jam their face into the data and say deal with this stop evading the stop deflecting stop doing pretend make-believe pseudo- engagement you need to take this up in actuality in good faith and genuinely deal with this and reason through the data and take an actual real position on this and stop avoiding and deflecting and pretending to dibble dabble
The scholars brag and brag about their infinite level of certainty instead of ever writing any actual books giving any actual scholarship on the subject of historicity and it is the exact same situation we saw how the atheist finally what the the a historicizes finally won because they finally forced the issue they finally forced the academics to do a Jennifer genuine bona fide engagement and of course the academics lost because they’re full of nonsense they have no case there is no evidence for Historical Jesus so it ended this was inevitable of course that everybody knew the outcome there was no surprise to be had the academics new perfectly well they had no case the academics new perfectly well they had nothing but an
empty argument from authority it is in the end academics know it and the a historicity people know it that the only reason academia and here’s to a historical Jesus is pure purest of pure convention it is pure social convention and before that before Richard carrier destroyed the atheism community and before he destroyed the field of atheism Studies he and other people including me we went ass burgers on the subject and it it became clear there was no way
there was no way the academics were going to win this it became very clear to both the a historicity scholars and to the academics it became very clear before the debate and that’s why that is exactly why the academics refused to debate but just held their ground in chanting mindlessly chanting no credentialed academic believes it so it’s just like our plane corralled how many thumbs up are there and how many thumbs are pointed in a downward direction not any genuine actual scholarly engagement it was all avoidance smokescreen deflect deflect smokescreen avoidance sweep it under the rug and inevitably when finally a scholar took the bait bar airman the machine
The part airman publishing machine and the academic machine OK he’s going to be the one to save the academics right into the machine trembled and trembles and shook and shake and out popped a totally disappointing book that was even disappointing to the a historicity Scholars we’ve been through this exact pattern and this exact pattern will happen again prophecy guaranteed because it’s absolutely predictable it’s the easiest prophecy in the world we’ve seen it play out regarding historicity of Jesus in academia Bart Herman came to the rescue of academia and it was just a gigantic bellyflop as as it was expected but we thought that somehow we thought that somehow Bart airmen would manage to writeThe part airman publishing machine and the academic machine OK he’s going to be the one to save the academics right into the machine trembled and trembles and shook and shake and out popped a totally disappointing book that was even disappointing to the a historicity Scholars we’ve been through this exact pattern and this exact pattern will happen again prophecy guaranteed because it’s absolutely predictable it’s the easiest prophecy in the world we’ve seen it play out regarding historicity of Jesus in academia Bart Herman came to the rescue of academia and it was just a gigantic bellyflop as as it was expected but we thought that somehow we thought that somehow Bart airmen would manage to write
we we had such high respect from our airman that we thought he would manage to write a book worth reading to at least continue the debate but all he had the best that the best writer who most fervently wanted to uphold historical Jesus the best he could manage was a complete dull bellyflop he had nothing it was like it ripped it reminds me of certain political finding where there was a great build up and finally the great court case and we’re going to see now finally the evidence is going to be put forth and it’s going to be devastating and the guy goes up on the stand and he just fumbles and bumbles and stammers and he’s got absolutely nothing it was the dragon
The king of all nothing burgers and that was how we felt with Bart Airmans but two were like oh you’ve disappointed we had low hopes for you we had the week we kept our expectations down and we had low hopes but you even still yet managed to disappoint us couldn’t you at least couldn’t you at least keep the debate going this was just it was a pathetic it was a pathetic fizzle and this is hardly constitute a prophecy like I am going to make a prophecy the sun will rise in the east tomorrow that’s my prophecy similarly I prophecy that if we could force the academics to stop being deceitful phonies
and frauds and actually engage with the data if we could take them by the scruff of the neck and jam their face into the database the doctor Jerry Brown not Christian Mushroom database of data if we could do that I can guarantee what will happen it will be a giant fizzle out bellyflop they will totally absolutely lose because they have no argument whatsoever they have no basis for the position at all it is sheer convention purely floating on vapor they’ve got nothing the deniers of mushrooms in Christian history and Chris Newark the deniers they got nothing
THEY GOT NOTHIN’
that’s my prophecy is that the the day we finally get academics to to stop their empty bluster and actually engage in a debate and actually engage the data we can confidently predict they’ve got nothing it’s all bluster bluster is all they’ve ever had we’ve got Panofsky’s bluster Panofsky bluster in 1952 and that’s it in the stories done that’s all they’ve got you’ve got Brinkman showing his different varieties of mushroom shapes that proves absolutely nothing that they claim that it proves it just means that there’s a variety of mushroom shapes and Christian are in no way does his book constitute any sort of anything like what Wason is pretending
if Wassen were to admit that Brinkman’s book exists and I think that’s why I am my theory is that that’s why Wassen censored out the book and that’s why walls and censored out repeatedly the photo stats from Panofsky is because Wasson realized that if we pursue the evidence the evidence provides zero actual support for the Panofsky Wassen thumbs down view in fact the only thing that Brinkman’s book shows is more and more evidence for mushroom varieties in no way just Brinkman to book support an argument for thumbs down rejecting mushrooms in Christian Art and in fact bring his book
in fact Brinckmann’s Brinckmann’s’s book and if Wassen had allowed us to go further into the research and to follow the citations it’s a losing battle so Wasson had to prevent investigating the data wasn’t had to replace the data and replace any investigation he had to prevent an investigation from Taking Pl., Wisen’s job assigned by the pope who is competing against mushrooms directly very directly wasson that was instructed to run defense for the pope to defend against the mushrooms and so he was told don’t let people investigate this topic because we will certainly lose because the evidence is based in truth and the truth is that Christianity comes from mushrooms and all the datain fact Brinckmann’s Brinckmann’s’s book and if Wassen had allowed us to go further into the research and to follow the citations it’s a losing battle so Wasson had to prevent investigating the data wasn’t had to replace the data and replace any investigation he had to prevent an investigation from Taking Pl., Wisen’s job assigned by the pope who is competing against mushrooms directly very directly wasson that was instructed to run defense for the pope to defend against the mushrooms and so he was told don’t let people investigate this topic because we will certainly lose because the evidence is based in truth and the truth is that Christianity comes from mushrooms and all the data
The more that you investigate the question of mushrooms in Christianity inevitably the more you will realize the truth if we let people investigate mushrooms and Christianity and if we even help them to investigate this we will lose the pope will lose mushrooms will win it’s guaranteed people will find the truth the more that people research this topic and Wason knew this he couldn’t let people pursue Panofsky and Citation of Brinckmann’s’s book Wasson couldn’t let people know even even if Panofsky even if Panofsky meant for the investigation to support the pope Wassen was not so confident Wassen you even though Panofsky thought that investigating the material and Bill
Panofsky believed that investigating mushrooms in Christianity would lead to a thumbs down finding and would support the pope but however Wassen and the pope believed that allowing an investigation into mushrooms and citations in Christianity they knew the truth that that investigation would actually support the thumb up people and would disapprove the thumb down people in other words Wassen didn’t believe Pulaski’s argument wasson knew that Pulaski’s argument with Specious vapor-based nonsense and that Brinkman’s book would be a problem because it shows more and more evidence it actually makes the problem for the pope at Brinkmann’s book makes the popes problem worse
so Watsons job was to put forth a appearance of having settle the matter well discouraging people from actually pursuing checking on it and researching at his job was to prevent research prevent investigation by pretending that a good actual investigation had already taken place with conclusions
The Egodeath theory 