My first Hatsis post, 2015 https://egodeathyahoogroup.wordpress.com/2021/01/09/egodeath-yahoo-group-digest-144/#message7442
I have been following Thomas Hatsis’ writings and research for so long, I’ve been reading his materials even back when he was writing under the pen name of “Andy Letcher”, and puncturing his bunk arguments ever since he wrote the book Shroom.
on mobile device Using voice transcription but wow I’m impressed by how exactly accurate this voice transcription is so you can be assured that every word below is precisely the word which I carefully enunciated and this is a guaranteed 100% exact transcription of my intent and meaning probably even more accurate than if I had typed it using a full-size ergonomic keyboard
it’s kind of good news I don’t know why I see it is good news but I found my first post my first mention of Thomas Hatsis earlier like I thought it’s early 2015 Christmas 2015 it’s December 24, 2015
Maybe I need to get better at using the mobile device but I felt like I had to resort to using the full on laptop to be able to do the search properly I probably just need more practice of searching the Yahoo what is it called even I don’t even know what it’s called these days
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i’ll probably do a voice recording read aloud but I just I largely feel good just because I finally it only took me I swear it only took me like one minute well no it took me about five minutes to to scope it out and be sure I was looking at the oldest the earliest message it’s at the top of digest number 144 from December 24, 2015 and there are several postings and they are very substantial and they’re there like up-to-date commentary I went to it thinking OK there will be just a few scraps it’ll be outdated it oh I want I expect these early postings they will be very in articulatei’ll probably do a voice recording read aloud but I just I largely feel good just because I finally it only took me I swear it only took me like one minute well no it took me about five minutes to to scope it out and be sure I was looking at the oldest the earliest message it’s at the top of digest number 144 from December 24, 2015 and there are several postings and they are very substantial and they’re there like up-to-date commentary I went to it thinking OK there will be just a few scraps it’ll be outdated it oh I want I expect these early postings they will be very in articulate
I came into the archives thinking expecting it’s going to be poorly written scraps of outdated uncertainty but instead I found the opposite I find a way back in 2015 I am make in my very first mentions of hats as I’m making completely forceful very totally sure footed it it reads like I it reads like the first time I posted about hats as I wrote as if I was an expert on his articles like it looks as if I read all of his articles and studied them and thought about them and compare them to my latest theory and then I posted really good postings with critical commentary so it’s I was expecting worst case and what I found instead was like
Really surprisingly best case postings instead even my very first posting it’s a little bit I don’t know
I’ve always found it in the past two years since I created the Egodeath Yahoo Group archive with maxes’ data , I always find it a little bit eerie, a little bit disturbing how super high-quality it is .
it’s a little bit, it throws me off , it’s a little hard to deal with that a high quality level, like I would be a little more comfortable if it were a little bit sorry & weak But instead it’s the opposite I guess I could characterize it as a very strong postings like maximum strength postings at the upper end like surprisingly high it feels like it’s a 10 out of 10 quality like wow I was expecting sort of like three out of 10 quality and it’s like consistently
I go to that archive expecting three out of 10 quality and it’s like 10 out of quality again and again, like whoa I don’t know, it’s a bit, I don’t kind of freaks me out a little bit.
this is pretty extensive and pretty well as always in the Egodeath Yahoo Group it is always rocksolid content it’s gold it’s very intelligent critiques I usually go there with the pompous attitude of yeah he’s gonna be old me old stupid me so it’s gonna be a bunch of like low-quality posts even lower quality than my recent post that’s what I go with I said very low expectations and then I arrive there in like
this is top quality content! Valuable links valuable solid commentary great I have to have exact dates on all the posts it’s highly structured highly intelligent it’s like should set high expectations instead of low expectations for the quality of the Egodeath Yahoo Group postings postings
I am still have not found my very first posting of the word Hatsis but I have gotten confirmation that I was heavily following him ours psychedelic I his original site even before Psychedelic Witch and then his third domain name is psychedelic historian I am I was this confirmed that his article say 2017 but I really think that he was doing YouTube videos and interviews and that these articles were posted at ours psychedelic a before he even registered the 2016 domain name I’ve I’ve been followingHatsis for much earlier than the dates that are shown in his articles. https://egodeathyahoogroup.wordpress.com/2021/01/09/egodeath-yahoo-group-digest-168/#message9046
that posting of mine which was not my first one links from a page that shows a published article buy hatsis on this topic of no mushrooms in Christianity as early as February 2014
this confirms it was really bothering me I feel sure that I followed him in an early wave well before the stated dates of his articles of “late 2017”
I have evidence here that late 2017 was my second wave of Pointing out his errors in his articles and comparing him to Panofsky and other deniers, committed skeptics like Andy Letcher.
also you have to count my analysis of Andy Letchers book “sroom ” at Egodeath.com was like first generation of reading Hatsis in effect because the argumentation of those two is indistinguishable ; there’s no way that you could differentiate the writings of Letcher versus Hatsis because they make the identical arguments
so by the time I first discovered Hatsis (simply find the earliest occurrence of the word Hatsis at my yahoo group) by whatever date that was I had already written about and analyzed those identical arguments but written by Andy Letcher
Therefore my first generation of debunking these particular arguments is when the books room came out
then my second generation of returning to comment again on that same argument was whenever I first wrote the word Hatsis which was based on you early YouTube discussions interview of Martin ball interviewing Thomas Hatsis and based on my reading at his very first website before Psychedelic Witch reading the articles as early as February 2014 (, not that I was that early)
by the time that had moved to Psychedelic Witch in 2016.com and then a year later it seems like he put a later date revised later date on some of his articles
by the time would be my next generation and then even later than that would be like what my fourth generation of going over hatsis materials which he practically inherited those arguments from Andy Letcher
you could almost say I’ve been following Hatsis – or his arguments That he parrots and employees along with Panofsky and let your and crew – since before he even set pen to paper, or whenever the date of publication of andy lectures book “shroom”
… that’s when I returned to do a second or third reading of his articles
so modify what I said in yesterday’s episodeof the ego death mystery show i used the phrase “hatsisis first website” and “second website” and I misspoke, because in fact hatsis
his first web domain is “ours psychedelic guy”( ignore voice transcription and see the URL ) and
his second website was “psychedelic Witch” and
his third website is “psychedelic historian”
so I am a third-generation follower of hats us
Or you could practically it would be practical to describe me as a fourth generation follower of hearts is work and research and publications:
generation one : Andy lectures book.
generation two: hours suck psychedelic our domain
generation three: psychedelic which.com
generationfor : psychedelichistorian.com
Below is the URL which is in my later posting that url that shows the date of February 2014 published article on the subject
https://web.archive.org/web/20160709005628/http://arspsychedelia.com/the-holy-mushroom-articles.html