My Hope Regarding John Lash

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Contents:

• Lash Uploaded Leg-Dangling Mushroom Tree May-Aug 2008 (Feb. 14, 2023 Update)
• The Image Fragment
• Dangling -> Hanging -> Balancing
• Summary of Desired Truish Story
• I voice-dictated & created this post March 30, 2022 before ordering his book on April 11, 2022

Lash Uploaded Leg-Dangling Mushroom Tree May-Aug 2008

This section is a Feb. 14, 2023 Update, and I have inserted [notes] in this March 30, 2022 post/page.

I finally did sleuthing last week and settled this important date:

The first time I could possibly have seen the image was sometime between May and August 2008.

I now know the image was definitely provided by John Lash.

The Image Fragment

This highly cropped image is 13.3% of the entire image:

2/5 of 1 of 3 rows = (2 / 5) / 3 = 2/15 = 13.33%

yet I was able to spend hour and days productively decoding it, by applying my Christmas 2015 hypothesis that Dancing Man in the salamander bestiary image is {standing on right leg} = eternalism-thinking — thus providing the needed confirmation of my 2015 hypothesis 5 years later.

Around the milestone date of March 21, 2022, I finally applied the learnings from decoding the (fragment & then the full) Eadwine leg-balancing image, back to my familiar 2006 artworks.

John Lash Provided the Leg-Hanging Mushroom Tree Eadwine Image in 2008
https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2023/02/01/john-lash-provided-the-leg-hanging-mushroom-tree-eadwine-image-in-2008/

I must have seen the image after my Egodeath.com 2006 gallery in support of Plaincourault article, because I certainly would have added that image, if I had seen it by Dec. 31, 2007.

It turns out, 5 to 8 months after my hiatus started, the image went online.

In Nov 2020 I felt sure I had seen the image before. That’s when I was writing Brown’s “compelling evidence & criteria of proof and for identifying mushroom imagery in Christian art” article:

Compelling Evidence & Proof of Explicit Psilocybin Mushrooms in Christian Art to Communicate Non-Branching Stable Control
https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/defining-compelling-evidence-criteria-of-proof-for-mushrooms-in-christian-art/

It appears that the present page was my first webpage dedicated to John Lash, March 30, 2022.

I was then in the middle of a 10-day nonstop jackpot applying my Nov 2020 Eadwine initiation image decoding, to other, familiar art works.

That jackpot started March 21, 2022 when for the 3rd time, Browns’ passage from Marcia Kupfer was presented to me, reporting youths in trees cutting branches.

In the weeks (I suppose, based on some indicators) prior to March 21, 2022, I already had built up huge momentum, so that when I saw again that passage, an explosion of comprehension resulted for weeks.

Dangling -> Hanging -> Balancing

[10:02 p.m. February 13, 2023] it strikes me that “balancing” is truer characterization.

Just like I ironically use “dancing man” to make fun of failed entheogen scholars before me, when he’s actually {standing on right leg} (referring to eternalism-thinking as opposed to possibilism-thinking), the descriptor “dangling” here is kind of missing a potential opportunity to make a truer point: it’s a matter of balance.

Learning a new balance, a new way to walk, to exercise viable control.

Summary of Desired Truish Story

2004 Cybermonk reads Samorini article msh trees salamder b/w dancing man image

2006 Cybermonk main article incl msh trees. no “branch” word.

Nov 2006 confirmed: Lash visits psalter.
[todo: double check based on [Feb. 2023 article] https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2023/02/01/john-lash-provided-the-leg-hanging-mushroom-tree-eadwine-image-in-2008/ ]

2006 John Lash uploads yellow blurry cropped microfiche copy of tightly cropped msh tree 71[still numbered 71? yes], describes/recognizes it as the scholarly discovery of a lifetime.
See my [April 2022] page https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/04/11/john-lash-the-discovery-of-a-lifetime/
Tree 71 in the 75 inventory:
https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/03/13/the-75-mushroom-trees-of-the-canterbury-psalter/#71

Nov. 29, 2013 Cybermonk decodes tree vs snake = possibilism vs eternalism

2014 Cybermonk sees Lash’s contextless blurry small version of tree 71 during routine sweep of web to expand his Christian msh image db [vague, which db? I wasn’t updating Egodeath.com then]

Christmas 2015 Cybermonk decodes roasting Hatsis salamander dancing man image [i recently linked to the Egodeath Yahoo Group archives w/ this post] but see whole thread, in archive 144, not only this post:
https://egodeathyahoogroup.wordpress.com/2021/01/09/egodeath-yahoo-group-digest-145/#message7459

2020 Cybermonk writes article requested by Brown defining compelling evidence and criteria for proof for interpreting all* of the mushroom trees/shapes in Christian art.

*For low-IQ readers[Carl Amanita Promoter Ruck]: The word ‘mushroom’ is not an exact synonym of ‘Amanita’; there do exist other psychoactive types, despite delirious witches high on henbane babbling the word ‘anachronistic’ incoherently.

2020 Cybermonk sees Lash’s uploaded microfiche image again, uses it to decode canterbury (tree, then Cyberdisciple finds the hi-res psalter, then Cybermonk decodes the tree more, then row 1, then the whole comic panel, then all the Eadwine pictures)

2022 Brown links to Lash page w tree 71

2022 Cybermonk comprehends “branching-message msh trees”

March 21, 2022 Brown provides Cybermonk image of beardless youths cutting msh branches

March 21-April ~13(?), 2022 Cybermonk completes hands & feet decoding.

The above dates are tentative and it appears that it is lash but I need to confirm the Lash uploaded that and I especially want to see how much focus does he put on tree number 71 in particular.

I voice-dictated & created this post March 30, 2022 before ordering his book on April 11, 2022

Voice Dictation

[i got his (2nd edition) book, purchased April 11, 2022: 12 days after the present post, received & read it after that]

Voice dictation was used to create this page.

I really hope that I will be able to tell the story

I love the story

I hope I can confirm the various points of the story

I would love it to be able to embrace [weird] brother John Lash [#1 Wasson fanboi] on this story.

Hypothesis:

John lash went to the library at Canterbury and made some microfiche copies (whatever that means) in color and he somehow uploaded specifically the cropped image of the leg Hanging Balancing Mushroom Tree number 71 from the Canterbury Psalter and he wrote several webpages about entheogens in Christianity. He’s Christian I think. [eh no, except Psilocybin mystical – when did i get his (2nd edition) book? purchased April 11, 2022: 12 days after the present post.]

including his blurry yellow overly cropped missing the context portion a small fraction of the comic panel which contains Mushroom tree number 71 with Balancing hanging and sword

then I know that I saw that picture a few some years ago some years ago I’d have to check do I have a copy of that picture at Egodeath.com that would be significant that is a significant question and if not I would question why not because obviously I was building my gallery of pictures around maybe 2005 which is such a valuable collection of pictures in support I know that I did that at least in support of my plane crawl article it is titled as a exhibit my egodeath.com webpage about the that is a gallery it is described as a gallery of images that is for the purpose of supporting my plane crawl article about Wassen and allegro and the scholarly slapfight that is in no way scholarly and is in no way a debate and is a disgrace of a refusal to engage in real handling the material and making actual rational argumentation about it

request a specific question here is does that gallery webpage a Egodeath.com include the leg Hanging Mushroom Tree I don’t think it does and if so why not the question here is when did I first see that tree and what was my reaction and what did I write when I first saw that leg hanging tree Mushroom tree when I would like to know when exactly did I for see it because if I recall correctly when I saw that picture at two websites I believe at two websites and I believe the John Lash I believe that

I believe that the web has before previous prior to my priority in EgodeathTheory.wordpress.com I believe that there were two copies to webpages containing that picture I believe and I hope that that picture was contributed and uploaded who uploaded that picture who uploaded that picture of the like blurry blurry yellow overly cropped leg Hanging Mushroom Tree who uploaded the picture when what year was it after I created my gallery webpage in support of my plain crop wasson article which was 2006

if the first time I copied that article into my web database was 2020 why such a late date because my memory tells me that that was not the first time that I saw the lake hanging mushroom tree my question here is why supposing that I supposing that that image was not new to me here is what I don’t understand and what does not make sense to me if I saw that picture before November 2020 why didn’t I upload that Picture that yellow blurry overly cropped image of the leg Hanging Mushroom Tree why didn’t I upload that to one of my websites a few years ago or 2006 was the article not of was that image not available on the web in 2006 and if 2020 was my second time of coming across coming across that image as my memory tells me why did why didn’t I put a great focus on the image let’s say hypothetically hypothetically let’s assume that the first time I saw that picture which was maybe I hope

contributed by uploaded by John Lash suppose hypothetically the first time I saw that picture was let’s say maybe one year after John Lash uploaded it and let’s say maybe he uploaded 2013 whatever we know the good thing I think I can determine I think I can determine what year he uploaded it let me also know that Dr. Brown I believe at Academia.edu you the copy of Brown’s retort letter to Hatteras Thomas Hatsis Dr. Brown’s retort article posted at Hancock Graham Hancock site but also a copy I think that in the comments may be in the comments

I think that may be in the comments at Academia.edu you Dr. Brown points to lash I know that somewhere doctor Dr. Brown has I think a comment posting with a link to John Lasch webpage which contains I think I have to fact check I have to double check everything here so let me try to tell the story and let it be understood that every aspect of the story is conjecture and hypothesis and this is it here is the story that I’m trying to tell here’s the sort of a story that I’m trying to tell below

In 2006 I made a gallery of all every image on the web that shows Mushrooms in christian art and this gallery of all web-findable images of msh in Christian art was in support of my article about Plaincourault Wassen and Allegro for the journal of hire criticism in 2006

hi it’s terrible I have to fact check everything I’m not sure if my gallery I’m not sure how many images I’m not sure if my gallery was at all in anyway intended to be comprehensive right now that I think about it I don’t think it was ever intended to to present all images of mushrooms in Christian art I don’t know maybe I have a separate webpage at Egodeath.com I know I always tried and attempted to upload lots of pictures but did I ever claim basically I know

I know that I attempted and desired consciously to upload to gather all such images but I don’t recall whether I ever claimed to have accomplished that and I never really felt that I had really accomplished that what I did what I do know for sure is it every few years every five or 10 years I would do another sweep of the web and gather up whatever I could find and there was always the feeling of all right well I’ve run out of new copies it’s all the same copies of the same images over again but the big question here is in which of my sweets

here is a great way to put it

suppose generally every five years I did a sweep of to find all newly available images of mushrooms in Christian art that are findable on the web then the question becomes what sweep in which year which of my sweeps first gathered and collected in and saw the image of the leg hanging mushroom tree because these were regular sweet so if that makes a little bit hard to pinpoint when did I first see it and then kind of the lesser question is when did I first copy it onto my own webpage

but one thing I feel certain about is that November 20 20 was not the first time I saw that picture my feeling when I did my sweep in November 2020 my feeling was oh yeah there’s that picture again I am familiar with that picture but now I have something I didn’t have before which is I have my 2016 hypothesis my hypothetical Decoding of the picture I got from Tom I did that I got through Tom Hatsis because first one number one Santorini black and white I believe copy of the dancing man salamander roasting image number two Chris Bennett publish that image in color I think I think that Tom Hatsis says that and then number three Jan Irvin publish something about that picture and then number four Thomas Hatsis wrote something about that salamander dancing man picture and then in 2016 I read half-sisters articles or 2015 actually and then in 2016 you can easily check this date you can get the exact date easily of my decoding my tentative hypothesis decoding the salamander dancing man at Egodeathyahoogroup.wordpress.com

so a good question is put these in the right sequence when did I first see the leg Hanging Mushroom Tree which was presumably uploaded by John lash which he discovered he described that as the discovery of a lifetime and I heartily agree with him and like hug him and shake his hand

congratulate him for his great earth shattering game changer discovery of a lifetime that he is a great hero at four he that I think I’m not sure but I think he provided the image to me another later step well that cyber disciple found the high-resolution official I will copy no Dr. Brown explained something in some of these comments are somewhere I bought about his article against Hatsis he explained that there are several copies several high resolution copies by a specialist, art art copying company where are several library’s have a high-resolution copy of the Canterbury psalter

so I still have some questions some basic fundamental basic simple questions about copies of the Canterbury Psalter the high-resolution images which cyber disciple found are those direct photographs of the Psalter what are what do we mean when we say what does Dr. Brown mean when he says that there are multiple professional copies or a facsimile reproductions like physical books in various library’s and then my question is or cyber disciples photographs of the Salter are they photographs of the original Psalter or are they photographs of copies probably they are photographs of the original Psalter but I would like confirmation of that because they look

they look like their photographs of gold gold ink illuminated manuscript which would have to be the original but maybe not maybe they’re photographs of photographs maybe their photographs of the of a facsimile of the Salter I need confirmation

so let me clarify a distinction is that the yellow blurry overly cropped image which was may be uploaded probably by John Lash and Dr. Brown’s comment I guess links to that John Lash page that contains that and did Brown point directly to that picture are there any other Canterbury pictures in that webpage from John Lash which Dr. Brown points to??

how old is that John lash article which Dr. Brown links to which contains the image the cropped image and that’s only a copy that’s not the same as the high resolution pictures which I later analyzed how does that John lash webpage compare to his deleted archive.org pages which I laughed and mocked because of his clumsy statement that everybody who writes about mushrooms and Christianity is there for a follower of Wassen including theories that completely disagree with wasson are also to be considered as followers of Boston and everybody in the world to write anything about connecting Mushroomshow old is that John lash article which Dr. Brown links to which contains the image the cropped image and that’s only a copy that’s not the same as the high resolution pictures which I later analyzed how does that John lash webpage compare to his deleted archive.org pages which I laughed and mocked because of his clumsy statement that everybody who writes about mushrooms and Christianity is there for a follower of Wassen including theories that completely disagree with wasson are also to be considered as followers of Boston and everybody in the world to write anything about connecting Mushrooms

And Christianity is by definition a full roof wasson except somehow magically exempting lash apparently because lash is doing the finger-pointing and accusing that automatically exempt him from being a follower of Wason he does not give his reasoning for why he is any different than the other schmucks who are writing on the subject and that he throws them into the garbage can called follower of Wason whereas Hatsis tries to make the same identical exact same move except arbitrarily Hatsis called his garbage can of his own making he labeled as followers of allegro not followers of wassom – same stupid arbitrary fallacious move in either case

so I am hoping to tell the stories that first I made a gallery of mushroom and Christian are images at Egodeath.com in specifically in support of my walls an article my plane crawl article in 2006 at which time the leg Hanging yellow blurry image was not uploaded yet to the web and then after that John lash travel to the library and made the discovery of a lifetime and made a microfiche copy of the cropped Mushroom tree number 41 and then lash uploaded that blurry image which I saw

so I am hoping to tell the stories that first I made a gallery of mushroom and Christian are images at Egodeath.com in specifically in support of my Wasson article; my Plaincourault article in 2006, at which time the leg-hanging yellow blurry image was not uploaded yet to the web

and then after that John lash traveled to the library and made “the discovery of a lifetime” and made a microfiche copy of the cropped Mushroom tree number 41 and then lash uploaded [I determined May-Aug 2008] that blurry image which I saw.

which I saw a few years somewhere in between 2006[no: Jan 1, 2008] and earlier than [Nov] 2020 and then

Dr. Brown saw whatever images I managed to gather in 2006 at Egodeath.com specifically in support of my Plaincourault fresco article and Brown’s book was published in 2016 citing my work but my gallery did not yet I guess maybe my gallery did not yet include that image then next in between my 2006 gallery which is cited in browns 2016 book and the year 2016 I’m guessing John lash during that. Uploaded that blurry image

and then I’m guessing maybe 2015 in one of my sweeps maybe I saw that blurry image then somehow in 2020 that image was not new to me

did I copy that image to one of my galleries prior to 2020?

I don’t know I could check

it would be pretty straightforward to check

Did I ever write check the Egodeath Yahoo Group?

[partial answer: I went on hiatus Jan 1, 2008; the image went online mid-2008, I didn’t post until Sep 2011 (hiatus)]

Did I ever say [Sep 2011 or later] Hey guys I found this one cool image of a mushroom in Christian Art where it has a guy balancing and the guy hanging and a sword

did I mention

is there any evidence is

that’s the big question

is there any evidence that I saw that blurry John lash image assuming it came from John Lash [confirmed it did]

and then I’m guessing maybe 2015 in one of my sweeps maybe I saw that blurry image

then somehow in 2020 that image was not new to me

did I copy that image to one of my galleries prior to 2020?

I don’t know I could check it would be pretty straightforward to check:

did I ever write check the Egodeath Yahoo Group

[dup text from buggy voice dictat.]

did I ever say hey guys I found this one cool image of a mushroom in Christian Art where it has a guy balancing and the guy hanging and a sword did I mention is there any evidence is that’s the big question is there any evidence that I saw that blurry John lash image assuming it came from John Lash

assuming that John lash is the person who uploaded that particular blurry image is there any evidence that I saw or even copied to a gallery that image before 2020 I believe that I saw the image and maybe added it to my private collection but perhaps did not upload it to any of my gallery pages so that’s just a question that’s bothering me that my question about who uploaded the blurry image is not bothering me but I would really love it if that was John last week

because I love what John lash said wrote what he wrote that it was the discovery of a lifetime what year did he write that statement what year did he upload that picture if indeed that blurry yellow picture comes from him that question is not bothering me that’s not the question that’s bothering me that is a question that is of great interest to me but it doesn’t bother me

The specific question that is that is bothering me is in 2020 when I saw that yellow blurry image I said oh there’s that familiar image which I saw before this image is not new to me however this time I possess my hypothesis of decoding the image that I got through Hatsis my hypothesis that the dancing man is standing on his right leg and that right leg means one mental model in the left leg means depending on your other mental model but standing on your right leg means depending on the one mental model rather than the other mental model of control in time and time and possibility Branching as it turns out

remember I decoded the formula tree versus snake equals possibility Branching model versus eternity model in Thanksgiving 2013 which was three years before my 2016 Decoding of the dancing man that I got through houses though it is pretty certain that I did see the black-and-white copy way back maybe 2005 when reading the Santorini articles Santorini articles

so in November 2020 I saw John lash yellow blurry image let’s say for the second time and let’s say that the first time I saw it I did not yet have my 2016 Decoding of left versus right leg that would suggest that I saw John lash yellow blurry photo maybe around 2013 possibly or probably a good bet is a couple of years after he wrote an article about it and about mushrooms in Canterbury

Psalterso in November 2020 I saw John lash yellow blurry image let’s say for the second time and let’s say that the first time I saw it I did not yet have my 2016 Decoding of left versus right leg that would suggest that I saw John lash yellow blurry photo maybe around 2013 possibly or probably a good bet is a couple of years after he wrote an article about it and about mushrooms in Canterbury Psalter

so I think I am now prepared to list hypothetical dates the date at which I read the Sam Marini article the date at which I wrote my gallery for my plane corralled article the date at which I decoded possibility Branching the date at which I saw John lash blurry yellow picture of leg Hanging Mushroom Tree the date at which I decoded the salamander dancing man image hyper to tentatively hypothetically let’s say tentatively as a hypothesis and I posted about that many of these dates

many of these dates are available and readily in quickly straightforwardly available then the day at which I saw the yellow blurry leg hanging image for the second time but this time I had in hand the decoding of the salamander dancing man image which I brought together with the leg hanging picture to be able to successfully decode the legging picture and I was having trouble interpreting the left blurry hand because it was so blurry it looked like the hand was pointing at the dangling foot I thought that the balancing man was drawing attention to the dangling foot of the red initiate

but that proved not at all to be the case as soon as cyber disciple found the high-resolution image which both added clarity on the mushroom tree portion of the image and added the entire image context as well as adding the broader context of all 75 mushroom trees the entire comic book all of the pages of the comic book instead of one blurry crop of one page of the comic book John Lash uploaded one blurry cropped portion of one page of the comic book but cyber disciple pointed me to the entire comic book and then high resolution it was

clear the pink Initiation Balancing in the tree was definitely not pointing at the dangling foot of the right read initiate Dingaling left foot of the red initiate but rather the left hand of the pink initiate is displayed as floating in mid air providing no purchase no stable foundation for control or even to read it my latest reading that he is he is exhibiting to us look I am not trying to rely on my left hand I am deliberately definitively saying and communicating I am not relying on my or even

he is signaling to us in his left hand I reject relying on possibility thinking branching thinking as my basis for personal control stability

then as I thoroughly documented Thanksgiving 2020 we analyze what does the pink initiate mean when he shows us his left hand what does the pink initiate mean when he grabs onto a definitively cut branch what does the pink initiate mean when he displays to us his right foot definitely on a cut branch providing him with stability stable purchase so that he can balance and what is the pink initiate signaling to us intentionally with his left foot by his deliberate placement of his left foot which you have to look carefully closely and critically to confirm that he is showing us his left foot asthen as I thoroughly documented Thanksgiving 2020 we analyze what does the pink initiate mean when he shows us his left hand what does the pink initiate mean when he grabs onto a definitively cut branch what does the pink initiate mean when he displays to us his right foot definitely on a cut branch providing him with stability stable purchase so that he can balance and what is the pink initiate signaling to us intentionally with his left foot by his deliberate placement of his left foot which you have to look carefully closely and critically to confirm that he is showing us his left foot as

The pink initiate is displaying to us his left foot being just dangling at the tree and not resting on any cut branch to give him a stable basis do the same repeat the above for the right initiate two hands and 2 feet the right initiate is displaying to us his right hand affirming the cut branch touching it his left hand cutting or being willing he is showing that he is willing to cut his left hand meaning again negating it so the fist the displayed left fist of the pink initiate is signaling the same message as the left hand of the hanging read initiate who is touching intentionallyThe pink initiate is displaying to us his left foot being just dangling at the tree and not resting on any cut branch to give him a stable basis do the same repeat the above for the right initiate two hands and 2 feet the right initiate is displaying to us his right hand affirming the cut branch touching it his left hand cutting or being willing he is showing that he is willing to cut his left hand meaning again negating it so the fist the displayed left fist of the pink initiate is signaling the same message as the left hand of the hanging read initiate who is touching intentionally

The sort of God indicating I cut this or I reject this so we have the right hand positively touching the cut branch saying I agree with cut and we have the left hand touching the sword again signaling I agree with cut cutting this possibility thinking or or intentionally indicating that I am not relying on it indicating that I am rejecting relying on the red initiates left foot is placed deliberately dangling the air he is acrobatic Lee demonstrating to us in order to signal and communicate to us look I am extremely not placing my dick

I am extremely not placing any dependents in fact I’m doing the exact extreme opposite here’s a new idea today it is 843 of whatever day March 30, 2022 new idea announcement priority of discovery scholarly official announcement of priority of discovery

New idea is the purpose of hanging upside down with the left foot way up in the air to the extreme is to communicate and this goes for the cyber side the sword the guy stabbing himself with a smile who is upside down and his foot is up in the air what is being indicated by both of those I am hereby announcing is the extreme of not depending on your left leg which means your foundation of stable control power based on possibility Branching model of time and control the purpose of being upside down and the purpose of the left leg being up in the air is the extremely emphasize the extreme opposite of depending on possibility Branching

To continue this morning’s earth shattering breakthrough of a bigger and girth your breakthrough than your breakthrough scholarly priority discovery con’t I should maybe switch to voice recording so you can have me doing a voice recording of brand new breakthrough here it’s just been it’s just playing out that same idea that’s not all I’m simply just playing out that idea that the right foot down please put down versus left foot floating up so let me switch the voice recording