There were no Psilocybin mushrooms in England before 1975.

Letcher Hatsis

here is Hatsis’ reply to me, my email to him a few sections below that. LITERALLY TOTALLY UNINTELLIGIBLE use of ‘anachronistic’ and ‘anachronisms’:

https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2021/02/19/idea-development-page-12/#Tom-Hatsis-Reply-to-Me

I advocate since 2002 the greedy entheogen theory of religion and I was disappointed and surprised, even shocked to realize in 2002 that what Clark Heinrich and the evil M. Hoffman and Carl Rut are pushing is not greedy entheogen theory, but rather, they are substituting it with the false and bogus negative defeatist planned failure, designed to fail

The Carl Rut paradigm is like McKenna declaring and robbing us – just like Andy Letcher and Thomas Hatsis are robbers they are anti-entheogen scholars, they are fake entheogen scholars pretending to assert visionary plants, when –

look at what they’re actually doing, is they’re doing everything possible to minimize the most important type of visionary Plants in the most important, relevant religion.

they’re trying to block entheogen scholarship at precisely the point where it matters the most

they are trying to give us low priority and unimportant irrelevant entheogen scholarship,

they are trying to be prohibition compliant

they are trying to be compliant flunky henchmen of prohibition, in service of the salvation Salesmen

we have Hatsis the supposed “Psychedelic Witch” & supposed “psychedelic historian”, who is actually in cahoots with the Pope.

Hatsis is in cahoots with the Salvation Salesmen, approving of explicit coverage of scopolamine plants in texts, while doing everything possible to deny and cover up the plants that actually matter: the Eucharist, Psilocybin mushrooms.

The Prohibitionist establishment laps up Thomas Hatsis’ bullsht , lying, fake, fraudulent “history”.

They give him a little reward pellets, and little lapdog that he is , he goes right along with their ruse, their deception.

He eagerly takes their reward pellets.

The Prohibitionist Establishment loves it when Letcher Hatsis publishes the entheogen-diminishing, stingy story.

They permit him to write half of the truth, and then steer the rest of it into the ditch, along with Wasson and all the Prohibition-compliant, fraudulent, fake scholars in the cover-up operation, complicit servants & flunkies of the Salvation Salesmen.

He’s just another fcking cover-up operator.

Letcher Hatsis is nothing but a Prohibition-compliant cover-up operator, who is intent on doing everything he can think of, & all the specious, nonsensical, and inarticulate “arguments” that he can pull out of a dark place, to prop up his lie that there’s no Psilocybin mushrooms in Christian history.

Which one is he: an idiot, or a liar? or is it a combination? 🤔 Letcher Hatsis is functioning as a “useful idiot”.

The Prohibition establishment rewards him for being stupid & ignorant.

He doesn’t even know what he’s doing, but he knows he gets his little stupid reward pellets from the Prohibitionist Establishment to write his bullsht half-false books,

he doesn’t even have to articulate a coherent position statement, or define exactly who is pushing against.

they’re telling all kinds of nonsense, popular notions such as “Psilocybin is only in South America not Europe there was no psilocybin in Europe until 1975”, according to Letcher Hatsis.

Hatsis asserts falsely, copy/pasting Letcher, that there’s no psilocybin mushrooms in England until 1975.

My main point that I’m yelling at you here is:

if that’s not what your flimsy cover-up story is, to (as you BRAG about) “easily explain away” “mushrooms” (🍄) in Hellenistic religion & in Christianity, then what the hell exactly is your story?

be clear this time.

be specific this time.

write in clear black-and-white clear ink, make a position statement.

what in the hell is your position, when you claim “anachonism”?

what in the hell are you talking about, “anachronistic”?

be clear, be articulate;

specify what your exact position is, you stupid, inarticulate, mumbling, muddled thinker.

I’m going to accuse you of asserting what you asserted to me in email (personal correspondence) : you use the word anachronistic.

I need to provide a link and I need to add that to the hall of shame, the scholarly fail quotes hall of shame: see my idea development page 13 I think is where I quoted it; I need to go copy paste that here.

written by Thomas Hatsis: “There was no psilocybin in England before 1975.” – signed, Thomas Hatsis

after all he said to me that psilocybin in Christian history would be “anachronistic”

so make him own his massive claim; put that, quote that in gigantic billboard letters, signed Idiot Letcher Hatsis, Prohibition-compliant lapdog slave, servant of the Prohibition establishment.

oh you say I’m strawmanning Tom Hatsis’ position?

well for one thing, yes , we do indeed need to talk about strawmanning

you bastard, trying to lie and tell lies that that Brown and I assert the John allegro position – what a lie, what a liar! so much for your historical sound tried and true historical methodology”, manifestly equals lying and strawmanning , at a industrial-level scale

well I’m going to strawman you right back, – Except that I’m not Straw Manning you; I’m accurately stating your incoherent stated position:

you asserted that psilocybin is “anachronistic” in Christian history, hand-in-hand, holding hands with Andy Letcher , the other lapdog flunky servant slave spreading the lies of the prohibition Establishment;

Letcher said there is no Psilocybin Mushroom Existed in England before 1975

please please please prove me wrong, and state CLEARLY what your damn position is, you inarticulate, mumbling, sorry excuse of a writer, failed example of a “historian” writer, who can’t even state clearly what his position is.

and, you completely grotesquely misstate the position of other historians – of actual historians.

I am more of a historian than you are, and I’m not even trying to be a historian. (I’m a cognitive theorist of the altered state including interpreting analogies.)

so much for being the “psychedelic witch”; you mean deliriant flunky slave propagandist for the Pope, more like.

they are robbers, they are trying to remove Psilocybin from Europe before 1975

Andy Letcher and Thomas Hatsis are robbers who are trying to remove psilocybin from European history.

They pretend to be entheogen scholars, but look at what they’re pushing: they’re pushing the denial that our religion and our history has Psilocybin.

These half-baked entheogen scholars are more driven by The Agenda (they are complicit in the Prohibition agenda) than by a sincere desire to reveal the truth, to plainly and loudly tumpet the truth, out and out plain and simple, no if’s and’s or buts, no goddmn word “secret secret secret secret secret”; every other word in every title, in every subtitle, always amanita, always “secret” , every single time.

It sure must be easy writing so-called “entheogen scholarship” books, when you toe the Prohibitionist party line, like a compliant lapdog and tell the lying, bogus story that they want you to tell – sure makes life easy, doesn’t it, Letcher, Hatsis, & Rut.

These are fake, fraudulent, phony, anti-entheogen scholars, who pretend to be entheogen scholars, when their real purpose and function that they serve is, they are willing, complicit slaves.

Letcher Hatsis is a compliant, complicit slave of the Prohibition Establishment, a flunky; a henchmen for the Prohibitionists, cover-up operators.

A main part of Hatsis’ fake stage act is the claim and statement that he wishes there were mushrooms in Christian history.

Yet, he is devoted to doing everything he possibly can to contribute to the cover-up operation and deny and minimize and remove Mushrooms from Christianity.

He’s an actor, a phony, and he is trying to harm and destroy and eliminate the scholarly field of mushrooms in European history, including removing Psilocybin Mushrooms from European history & from the Eucharist.

Hatsis the fake “witch” is anti- ethnomycology, an anti-scholar pretending to do scholarship, for the purpose of covering up and hiding the truth.

“Ethnomycolgy”‘s purpose is a cover-up operation to delete/ remove/ hide the Psilocybin mushroom basis of european and ancient mediterranean & ANE religion.

The purpose of the Moderate entheogen theory of religion is to hide and diminish and reduce the amount of prominence and presence of visionary plants, particularly Psilocybin Mushrooms in European religious history, including ancient Mediterranean, including ancient Greece.

The purpose of the Moderate entheogen theory of religion is to cowtow and toe the line and be stingy and downplay and emphasize the absence, rather than the presence of Psilocybin mushrooms in Greek & Christian history.

While pretending that the purpose of their “entheogen scholarship” is to emphasize the presence of these visionary plants, the actual function of the evil, false, Moderate entheogen theory of religion is to diminish as much as possible the effective, Psilocybin Eucharist.

What passes for “entheogen scholarship” is actually the opposite of what it pretends to be

it’s a cover-up operation , anti-entheogen scholarship

it’s the phony , fraudulent Moderate version for what passes for entheogen sholarship, designed expressly to *not* reach the true conclusion, but obscure and drive it underground and hide it and deny it

the purpose of the Moderate entheogen theory of religion is to deny the normal presence of visionary plants in religion – that’s the function that it serves, compliant with Prohibition – good job, losers.

The Moderate, ersatz, substitute, phony version of “entheogen scholarship” is the opposite of what it pretends to be.

Terence McKenna robbed us of our Psilocybe in history – jerk , idiot, claiming that to recover Psilocybin we would have to regress to the archaic lack of civilization – an evil idea.

These robbers, the Moderate entheogen theory robs us of our Psilocybin history.

The Moderate entheogen theory of religion is anti-entheogen scholarship, pretending to be pro-entheogen scholarship.

The Moderate entheogen theory of religion is as disastrous of a strategy as the psychedelic 60s saying “we have a brand new technology that was never used before”.

Good job, dimwits, morons, self-defeating

you’ve already declared defeat before you even started by saying that nobody before us used visionary plants.

… which is completely false and awful and harmful, and a defeatist, self-defeating strategy that’s guaranteed to fail and lose.

Good job; now your wrong presuppositions that you didn’t even give any thought to at all , together with nonsense lies like “the traditional non-drug methods of the mystics” – what baloney, complete baloney!

Now thanks to your disastrous catastrophic stupid strategy and presuppositions , now your incorrect presuppositions are baked into international law.

good fcking job, dumbasses – the fcking Moderate Entheogen Theory is anti-entheogen theory.

it’s helping to limit and stunt and retard and drive into a dead end instead of opening up

it’s designed to fail

it’s a stingy rather than greedy Scholarship

I’m disappointed in you guys

I thought, I expected from you in your book Apples of Apollo in 2000, I expected you to take a greedy, assertive, manly vigorous stance

grow some fcking balls you fcking UNIX Ha ha ha

A greedy approach is the definition of the Maximal Entheogen Theory

a stingy approach is the definition of the moderate entheogen theory

this really is the contrast in a nutshell

this is how to define the two positions against each other

stop being stingy, be greedy – that is my message of 2002 October, in the wake of the stingy book Apples of Apollo, that leaves everything all the winnings are left behind on the table

they come away with nothing but worthless dross, the stupid dirty inefficient Amanita – and only secret use, at that.

🍄 -> 🗑

my technical definition of the difference between my maximal entheogen theory versus the sucky, suck-azz , self-defeating losers’ Moderate Entheogen Theory:

the Moderate Entheogen Theory of religion is for losers

it’s designed to lose and fail, dead end, go nowhere and be a Prohibition-compliant Moderate view – good job, losers

Wassons job was to create a new field, “ethnomycology”, in order to steer it into a ditch and steer it away from the truth and to prevent revealing the mysteries, which is that our own religions come from visionary plants, at their origins and throughout their history.

Wasson constantly insulting mycologists and “commanding” them to stop asserting that mushroom trees mean mushrooms – as if he had any credibility on this matter, which he does not.

Wasson has zero credibility on this matter, and Dr. Brown does cover that in his article, and so does Jan irvin in his book, the Holy Mushroom.

Pope Wasson/Panofsky, the Salvation Salesmen, just like the Meditation Hucksters of the East, are selling a fraudulent, false product, in place of the real deal, which has always been psilocybin mushrooms.

Gordon “Conflict of Interest” Wa$$on

Psilocybin Mushrooms is:

the Eucharist

the mushroom trees

mixed wine

“contemplation” (give me a break)

kykeon

the initiation Sacred meal

see Jerry Brown’s article in journal of psychedelic studies, which states that its purpose is to reveal the financial conflict of interest that Wasson had.

and Jan Irvin; I need to buy his book.

I have to buy his book with color plates, the expensive version

I can’t avoid this tiresome, very tiresome topic, of all the lies and deception.

Wason is a liar; he is a deceiver, he’s dishonest, he strives to spread deception.

his purpose is to spread lies and falsehoods and prevent us from knowing the truth.

Go to Hell Wasson, trying to replace – how dare you replace the authentic psilocybin Eucharist by wine, crackers, and priestcraft; magical thinking!

spreading egoic delusion – thanks a lot Wasson, lots of “contributions” you’ve “contributed”: they’re contributing to driving the field into a dead-end ditch, together with Carl Rut 🍄⚰️🛑⛔️🚫

it’s the age-old battle between exoteric versus esoteric;

between what Elaine Pagels calls Orthodox versus Gnostics sets of views,

between the (lower) Psychics versus the (higher) Pneumatics;

between literalist ordinary state possibilism with autonomous control versus analogical psychedelic eternalism with dependent control

Miracle occurs: voice transcription got the above correct – even the casing.

The two legs, the two views, the two interpretations of religious mythology, the two presupposition matrixes about visionary plants in the origin and ongoing inspiration wellspring of our own religions.