Egodeath Mystery Show episode 225: 🍄😞🤑 Griffiths’ Grief Grifters

Michael Hoffman, December 29, 2022 9:12 pm UTC+0

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“Ep225a 🍄😞🤑 Griffiths’ Grief Grifters”
“Ep225b 🍄😞🤑 Griffiths’ Grief Grifters”
“Ep225c 🍄😞🤑 Griffiths’ Grief Grifters”

Total about 4 hours of scholarly research critique of psychedelics effects questionnaires.

I removed most guitar that’s in the middle of each mp3 while I’m reading or typing. Exception: song-length guitar at 36 minutes in part B.

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Topics

Psychedelics Psychometrics.

Scholarly research/theory & critique of psychedelics effects questionnaires, especially Griffiths’ 2016 CEQ Challenging Effects Questionnaire.

Understanding the Dittrich’s 1994 OAV questionnaire, with its Angst/Dread of Ego Dissolution questions.

I’m not against making money; I’m against totally de-naturing psychedelics to remove all of the psychedelics-state-specific distinctive Control challenging effects and replacing them by ordinary-state based Grief materials (textbooks, practices, paradigm) that were already developed in professional couch psychotherapy.

This is a bait and switch.

The Hopkins Griffiths CEQ is removing psychedelic effects from psychedelics.

How I Listen

Sometimes I use the Download UI at WeTransfer.com to listen directly in the browser.

On laptop, I use the main music app to transfer the mp3s to mobile device – to an Egodeath playlist.

On mobile device I often go to Settings > Music > EQ > Small Speakers, or Treble Cut, to reduce the treble fatigue.

Timestamps/Content

“Ep225a Griffiths Grief Grifters.mp3”

1:14:43

121 MB

  • 0:00 guitar (14 sec) (4685.wav)
  • 0:14 Content
  • ~25:00 – Did Studerus 2010 remove the 7 O/A/V dimensions’ questions entirely, or move them to General? Being totally indeterminate is unscientific; failure to communicate basic info is unscientific. Removed 4 Dread questions including 54 I was afraid to lose my self-control – did that get moved to General, or deleted? Griffiths 2016 doesn’t see those 4 deleted Dread questions, out of 17, and then gets rid of 10 more, leaving only 3 Dread questions out of 17 (18%; removes 82% of the Dread questions, he says the Dread Dittrich OAV questions are the bad trip questionnaire subset – so casually, carelessly remove 82% of the industry-standard bad trip questions, and then brag about our comprehensive coverage of all challenging effects – without even acknowledging that Studerus already had removed 4 of the 17 Dread questions before Griffiths started removing almost all of the remaining bad-trip questions.
  • 55:32 Guitar (50 sec) (4686.wav)
  • 56:22 Content
  • 1:10:05 Guitar (20 sec)
  • 1:10:25 Content
  • 1:14:43 End

“Ep225b Griffiths Grief Grifters.mp3”

1:15:02

126 MB

  • 0:00 Intro (4687.wav)
  • 0:32 Content
  • 36:09 guitar (3:12) <– song-length guitar at 36:00
  • 39:22 Content (4688.wav) – If Griffiths gets to add his new pet category of Grief challenges and make it have more questions than any other category, then I get to restore a Control challenges category, put it deservedly first, and make it deservedly have more questions (no dups) even than Griffiths’ dup-bloated new Grief category.
  • 1:08:00 Content (4689.wav)
  • 1:14:05 guitar (1:00)
  • 1:15:02 End

“Ep225c Griffiths Grief Grifters.mp3”

1:31:39

149 MB

  • 0:00 Content (4690.wav)
  • ~3:00 proof that the CEQ’s psychometrics math is bad: the final CEQ survey doesn’t make any sense, it has 7 dup questions including 3 instances of the “felt Isolation?” effect question from 3 different surveys. Why are you creating a survey – or a mock survey, really – that combines dup questions from multiple surveys – is there a strategy here? Failing to state your strategy is unscientific. What’s the utility of padding a category with 3 versions of the same effect question, while also deleting Control-challenge questions carelessly left and right?
  • If you so badly need to remove questions from your initial pool of 64, why then do you retain 3 exactly dup “Isolation” questions, 2 exactly dup Despair questions padding out your pet new Grief category, 2 exactly dup “Fear/ afraid/ frightened/ had fright /I’ve got a bad feeling about this” questions, and some 7 dup questions out of the final set of 26?
  • The complicated standard strenuous discussion of math delivers a final Yaldabothian 🦁🐍 malformed, nonsensical, lopsided set of questions as the outcome. Has several pseudo-categories that consist of merely a single question, repeated multiple times.
  • You churn out a manifestly, obviously, grossly malformed resulting, the final CEQ, yet all your strenuous math doesn’t catch these awful deformities, and the giant gap you introduced about Control challenges by removing 14 of 17 Dread questions.
  • The CEQ is a joke, a flimsy pretext, and a transparently obvious ploy to fabricate a new pseudo-psychedelic Grief challenges category, and replace and get rid of the bona fide psychedelic Control challenges category.
  • ~27:00 – My 7 questions in my Control challenges category that I added or restored to CEQ, are distinct from each other, not dups – according to Dittrich, who defined 5 of these questions, all in the Dread category.
  • ~54:00 – How can we be sure whether Studerus simply deleted questions altogether, vs. moved them from their equivalent of the O/A/V categoreies, to their General category? They say “We deleted the items”; we must assume that they nuked the items entirely from the 11-Factor questionnaire, if there is such a thing as a concrete, tangible 11-Factor questionnaire that includes General, non-category questions.
  • todo: I’ll check Studerus 2010 for the word “drop” “general” and “remove” and “delete“.
  • How exactly is one expected to adopt this wanna-be OAV replacement (11-Factor). They broke up the O/A/V dimensions (distinct from G-ASC General questions, shown too in Fig S1), and nuked the O/A/V categories, and removed 7 questions from their Factor categories, but did they delete those 7 from the entire survey altogether – or move those questions into General?
  • Why doesn’t Studerus say “we moved the removed factor-category questions to General”? We must conclude that Studerus entirely trashcanned/ nuked/ wholly deleted question 54: I was afraid to lose my self-control.” and 6 other Factor questions shown in their Figure S1. That’s what they say, “we removed a buncha ambiguous or cross-loading questions from our factors”. That’s their “scientific” statement of what they did and why.
  • 1:30:31 Guitar (1:00)
  • 1:31:39 End
The Questions I Put in the ‘Control’ CEQ Category Are Respected as Distinct Questions per Dittrich, not Dups like Griffiths’ Questions

The OAV’s Dread category questions:
https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/12/29/oav-questionnaire-1994-oceanic-boundlessness-angst-of-dread-of-ego-dissolution-visionary-restructuralization-dittrich/#Dread-of-Ego-Dissolution

The Control challenges category of questions that I added/restored to CEQ:
https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/12/28/how-to-redeem-the-ceq-add-a-control-category-and-the-surveys-questions-about-experiencing-the-threat-of-loss-of-control/#The-Resulting-Improved-CEQ

Below are the questions that I put in a Control category of CEQ.

Each of my Control-challenge questions that I picked are unique and justified, not dups, unlike all of Griffiths’ CEQ categories, including Griffiths’ pet new Grief category, which are pseudo-categories, fabricated by padding them out with dup questions.

5D-ASC 54. I was afraid to lose my self-control. [DED]
5D-ASC 6. I had the feeling of being connected to a superior power. [OB]
5D-ASC 5. I felt like a puppet or marionette. [DED]
5D-ASC 53. I had the feeling that I no longer had a will of my own. [DED]
5D-ASC 38. I felt threatened. [DED]

SOCQ 28. Sense of being trapped and helpless.
HRS #. It was difficult to control my thoughts. [Volition] category, I assume

Studerus’ Key Words for Nuking(?) Effects Questions – Figure S2 Tree Shows 54 moved from Anxiety to General[Unpleasant] or General[Pleasant]

Update/correction: Studerus has two General categories (General questions aren’t in the 11 factors/ categories):
General[Unpleasant]
General[Pleasant] – body text of article says this is equivalent to Ocean + Visionary, as containers.

Update/correction: Figure S2 Tree shows that question 12 (“I felt tormented”) moved from Anxiety factor/category to General[Unpleasant].

Number of factor-contained items in Fig S1: 49. Total: 66.
Items in Anxiety: 8
Items in Impaired Control and Cognition: 9

Number of factor-contained items in Fig S2: 48. Total: 66
Items in Anxiety: 7 (12 “I felt tormented” moved to General)
Items in Impaired Control and Cognition: 8

Figure 2 shows that they moved from a 4-category OAV to an 11-category 11-Factor grouping of questions.

OAV actually is 4-factor, including General [G-ASC] dimension.

11-Factor has no General category; it has 11 categories, none of which are “General”.

Therefore when Studerus says “we dropped the question”, they have no General category to move it to; therefore “drop” means entirely delete/ignore that effect question that’s in Dittrich’s 1994 OAV [+G] questionnaire.

Thus Studerus didn’t move question 54, “I was afraid to lose my self-control” — they deleted/ignore it from their 11-Factor model. They should have built the ICC category around question 54, and constructed the 11-Factor model around that – this effect is what we are trying to track, so talk of “cross-loading” and “ambiguous” re: item 54 just shows poor grasp of the objective, by Studerous. Dropping item 54 is always the Wrong Solution.

“By applying the criteria defined in the method section, 11 item clusters formed from 47 of the 66 original items were detected and used for initial CFA model specification.

“The ICLUST tree diagram and the item clusters that were used for the initial CFA model are shown in Fig. S1 (for the ICLUST tree diagram based on the categorized variables see Fig. S2). [S2 has fewer questions in ICC & ANX factor/ categories]

“As the model fit of the initial CFA model was not sufficient according to the CFI and TLI indexes (see Table 2), we tried to improve model fit by dropping items showing large modification indexes for cross-loadings and ambiguous item wordings.”

[I’m guessing that item 54: “I was afraid to lose my self-control” cross-loaded into both Studerus’ Anxiety & Impaired Control and Cognition (ANX & ICC) factors, so they dropped that most-key question.

They should be constructing factors locked around this question – if you’re not handling this question, but are dropping it to make your model “work”, then the whole exercise & its resulting model is blind to what matters, despite having an “Impaired Control” factor/categ.]

“The model revision led to a final model that still contained the same number of factors, but a slightly lower number of items (42 instead of 47).[not sure if there’s a count error there; see both Figure S1 & Figure S2, compared to Figure 1]

“Because the dropped items (# 12, 39, 41, 48, and 54)[sic; and 61 & 62] had been mostly assigned to different factors, the model revision did not lead to a major change in the interpretation of any factor.”

Quote:

“The initial factorial solution was then further refined by dropping items with high cross-loadings.” – p. 6 Studerus

Quote:

“However, to further increase model parsimony, direct effects that were non-significant at p,0.05 or had very low effect sizes (y-standardized regression coefficients ,0.2) were dropped in the final MIMIC model.” p 6

Errata/ Subsequent Findings

The 11-Factor questionnaire has two high-level, General categories of psychedelic effects questions: General[Unpleasant] and General[Pleasant]. Between Figure S1 and S2, you can see question 12 move out from the Anxiety low-level factor/category to the General[Unpleasant] high-level category.

Griffiths was wrong to pick “all 13 of the Dread questions which are in Studerus’ ANX & ICC factors”; should have instead picked all 17 of the high-level Unpleasant Studerus’ items, which includes ANX, ICC, & Unpleasant[General]. Unpleasant[General] contains effect question 54: “I was afraid to lose my self-control”. Then Griffiths should have created a Control category containing #54 in the final CEQ.

How Many Effects Questions in Ocean, Angst, and Visionary?

Dec 29, p.m. –

I’m having to deduce the structure of Dittrich 1994 OAV dimensions in relation to G-ASC:

Studerus 2010 Table 5 shows item (effect question) counts:
G-ASC 66
Ocean 27 (not 17)
Dread 21 (not 17)
Visionary 18 (not 15)
27 + 21 + 18 = 66.
Evidently, 0 questions sit in a separate G-ASC bucket; therefore G-ASC seems to be the sum of O+A+V; none other. So my instinct was right to assign the General items instead to O/A/V dimensions, in my new OAV page.

Production

Stereo. 210 kbps mp3.

Left mic: a-t AT2020 (MDC), eq: 8 3 -12
Right mic: CAD E100 (MDC), eq 3 -3 -8

80 Hz bass cut & limiter on the deck

Miking of guitar spk cabs: 57s on 8″, angled (Orange cab; ’57 Fender Champ w/ Celestion Eight 15 spk)

Music

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References

Studerus’ 2010 11-Factor article:
Proposes 11 dimensions for the OAV or 5D-ASC:
Studerus E, Gamma A and Vollenweider FX (2010)
Psychometric evaluation of the altered states of consciousness rating scale (OAV)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2930851/

Griffiths’ 2016 CEQ article:
The Challenging Experience Questionnaire: Characterization of challenging experiences with psilocybin mushrooms
Frederick S Barrett, Matthew P Bradstreet,
Jeannie-Marie S Leoutsakos, Matthew W Johnson
and Roland R Griffiths, 2016 
https://www.academia.edu/33760114/The_Challenging_Experience_Questionnaire_Characterization_of_challenging_experiences_with_psilocybin_mushrooms

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