Griffiths’ CEQ’s Mistakes, Not Studerus’ 11-Factors’ Mistakes, Omitting Most Challenging Experiences from Psychedelics Effects Questionnaire

Michael Hoffman, December 30, 2022 7:25 pm UTC+0

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Questionnaires Discussed

  • Dittrich’s OAV (Oceanic/Angst/Visionary) questionnaire, 1994.
  • Studerus’ 11-Factors replacement of the OAV categories, 2010.
  • Griffiths’ Challenging Experiences Questionnaire (CEQ), 2016.

11-Factor Keeps All 21 Dread Questions, Griffiths Starts with only 13 of Those

The Mistake Is Not in Studerus’ 11-Factor Which Retains All 21 Angst/ Dread questions, in 11-Factors’ Unpleasant Experiences high-level category.

Studerus’ 2010 11-Factor article seems solid.

The mistake is not by Studerus (11-Factors); they didn’t remove any Dread questions, from their Unpleasant high-level category. eg see Studerus 2010 Figure S1 & S2, “hierarchy tree”.

Studerus only “dropped” Dread questions from their 11 Factor categories, not entirely from the set of all 66 OAV questions.

I speculate that Question 54: I was afraid to lose my self-control” was removed from ANX factor because it cross-loaded in the Impaired Control and Cognition (ICC) category as well.

I think Studerus needs a more robust comprehension of “impaired control” category, and question 54 should be placed in there.

I would reconceptualize 11-Factors’ Impaired Control and Cognition (ICC) category to be equated with the Volition category of Rick Strassman’s HRS questionnaire. I haven’t seen which questions are in Volition, to check how it’s conceptualized.

Studerus didn’t drop questions from the Angst/Dread aka Unpleasant high-level category, containing 21 questions.

11-Factor has all 66 OAV questions, and puts 42 of them in the 11 Factor categories, including 7 questions in ICC & 6 questions in ANX (13 of the 21 questions that are in the Unpleasant Effects high-level category).

Per Studerus:

11-Factors’ Unpleasant high-level category = all 21 questions in OAV’s Dread dimension.
11-Factors’ Pleasant high-level category = all questions from OAV’s Ocean & Visionary dimensions (66 OAV q’s -21 Dread q’s = 27 O + 18 V = 45 O+V questions).

The mistake is on the part of Griffiths group, starting with only the subset of “all 13” of the questions in the two factors of 11-Factors instead of what they should have started with in their Initial Item pool: “all 21” of the Angst/Dread questions from OAV.

Should Have Added the All 21 “Unpleasant” Questions to Initial Pool, Not Just the 13 ICC+ANX Questions

Since Griffiths brags about CEQ’s “complete” coverage of challenging experiences, they should have added all 21 of Studerus’ Unpleasant high-level category, to the initial item pool, not merely the 13 Studerus questions in Impaired Control and Cognition (ICC) + Anxiety (ANX) factor categories while ignoring 11-Factors’ other 8 Unpleasant Experiences questions.

Should Have Added the All 21 11-Factor “Unpleasant Experiences” (= OAV “Dread” Questions) to Initial Item Pool, Not Just “All 13” 11-Factor ICC+ANX Questions

Adding “all 13” questions from ICC+ANX of 11-Factor – they should have instead added “all 21” Dread questions from OAV, including 54 “I was afraid to lose my self-control”.

That’s the same as saying Griffiths should have added “All 21 Unpleasant Questions” not just “all 13 ICC+ANX” questions while ignoring the other 8 Unpleasant high-level category questions.

Should Have Kept a Volition-Control Category

Griffiths should have kept a Volition-Control category of questions, like HRS’ Volition category and a better-conceived version of the 11-Factors Impaired Cognition and Control factor/ category.

Should Have Kept More than 3 of the 21 OAV Angst/ Dread Questions (Kept 14%, Discarded 86%)

Should have kept more than just 3 of the 21 OAV Dread dimension questions, including item 54 “I was afraid to lose my self-control”.

Should Have Removed Dup Questions Obtained from Multiple Questionnaires

The CEQ Isolation pseudo-category is puffed up and fabricated with 3 instances of the same effect from 3 questionnaires.

How is the CEQ intended to be used, crossing across 3 equivalent instruments’ same effect question? Not explained by CEQ article.

Their mockup 26-question CEQ questionnaire doesn’t make sense. There are 7 dups; 7/26 = 27% dup questions, shattering any claim that “we had to get rid of 86% of the Dread questions to keep CEQ streamlined”.

If you wanted CEQ to be streamlined, you would have removed the 7 multi-questionnaire dups, leaving 26-7 = 19 items.

19/26 = would be 73% of the current size.

7/26 = 27% of CEQ’s questions are dups.

— Cybermonk, December 30, 2022

References

See https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/12/29/oav-questionnaire-1994-oceanic-boundlessness-angst-of-dread-of-ego-dissolution-visionary-restructuralization-dittrich/#References

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