Contents:
- Intro
- Need a Book That Dethrones False King Amanita
- The Amanita Primacy Fallacy, vs. Psilocybin (not Cannabis, Scopolamine, DMT, etc.) Definitive of Religious Mythology and Peak Religious Experience
- Evidence Hatsis Announced that Book Title
- The Bizarre Extreme Disparity: Invest 100% in Amanita as the Omni-Explanation for Everything, Yet No One Has Even the Slightest Interest in Using or Researching Amanita
- Looking to Amanita as an Infantile, Irrational, Magical, Superficial, Shallow, Proxy, Pseudo-Explanation; Not Serious, Adult, Mature, Realistic Theorizing
- A form of religionism: a genre category error of making myth the foundation of your theory-construction
- The Mythical Species Amanita Secretus Is Not the Same thing as “Mushrooms”
- See Also
Intro
I welcome a book that throws this false king, Amanita, preventer of comprehension, off of the throne.
We really do need a book that’s critical of how Amanita has been used and grotesquely exaggerated and overused and centrally placed in the field of entheogen scholarship.
The book needs to be of higher quality than the really dumb arguments that Hatsis has put forth and the poor presentation which Letcher put forth — I couldn’t even tell who he was arguing against, when that book came out.
The strange thing with Hatsis is that he definitely has some aptitude; he has some sincerity, he has energy — but he really needs coaching and guidance — he lets his skills throw him into the ditch.
he clearly has potential on this topic, if he could eliminate negative habits.
a lot of his criticisms are needed and warranted — but not the poor-quality way that he has argued.
Early in this website (2016?) I wrote something naively expectantly hopeful and wrong, that Hatsis had retracted his insane denial of mushrooms in Christianity.
Here is an equally venturesome conjecture: Hatsis retracted his “hill to die on” book title, The Sacred Mushroom Conspiracy.
Strange book proposal, since the ONLY person I ever hear spreading the idea of “the sacred mushroom” or “the Holy mushroom theory” or “secret Christian mushroom* cult”, is Letcher Hatsis himself!
*for “mushroom”, picture kiddie Amanita: 🍄
Then we find the web scholar/amateur blogger post where Hatsis enthuses about Allegro’s book SMC being easily in his top 10 favorites, and we find that the person who is pushing Allegroism and reifying that paradigm with that narrowly closed set of conceptual options is Hatsis himself, and when I don’t fit into the Allegroism mold that Hatsis expects and enforces, he tells me I am not allowed to leave Allegro’s theory (as if the Egodeath theory ever had jack to do with Allegro).
Thomas Hatsis is 1970-man; he thinks it is perpetually 1970, and he does his best to trap us in 1970 forever.
There happens to be overlap but I have basic critiques and my thinking never in any way “came from” Allegro even though that’s the case, very much, with Hatsis. Don’t project YOUR dubious intellectual trajectory and intellectual autobiography onto me. I’ve done intensive reconstruction of my history, and have determined that Allegro could not possibly figure less in my intellectual history. I am obliged to engage Allegro because other people do — that’s what it means to work in fields — but I engaged him, after my Core theory was complete, to properly demonstrate how to deal with a mixed bag and how to prevent Allegro from any longer acting as an impediment to progress.
Hatsis the #1 Follower of Allegro:
Reading Allegro Again (Hatsis 2015)
https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2023/02/18/reading-allegro-again-hatsis-2015/
I do not at all share Hatsis’ enthusiasm for Allegro’s book.
I wrote a 64-page article listing what Allegro gets right & wrong and explaining why we cannot treat Allegro as any kind of main starting point, central point of reference, or sound basis for posing questions; we must abandon Allegro’s dead-end thought-world instead NEUTRALLY ASK The Michael Hoffman Question (since I am the ONLY ONE asking this purely neutral question):
What extent Psilocybin (or Amanita as billboard for Psilocybin) in Western religious history?
“I would like Amanita please.”
“We only have Psilocybin mushrooms.”
“But your sign shows Amanita.”
“Don’t be an idiot, that means Psilocybin.”


To what extent mushrooms [I mean Psilocybin, NOT Amanita!!] in Christian history?
I pointedly and emphatically am not asking “secret elite heretical cult spread hidden alchemy suppressed” etc etc that Ruck and Heinrich wet themselves pursuing.
Maybe I hang out in the wrong circles, but I literally don’t hear ANYONE talking about “secret mushroom conspiracy” or “the sacred mushroom” or “the holy mushroom cult” EXCEPT for Letcher Hatsis himself: who does he imagine he’s arguing against? Where is the windmill he’s tilting at? If Hatsis means Ruck – or Wasson, or Heinrich, or Irvin, or Rush, or Allegro, these writers need to be addressed more on a specific, individual basis, than on an abstracted-thus-strawman tendency level.
I acknowledge the Hatsis articles are somewhat more specific and somewhat less abstracting in terms of some vague arch-theory of “secret cult” to push back against – but Letcher’s book was particularly vague, here, and so Letcher’s book seems to keep shifting and waffling about who, specifically, and what theory, specifically, Letcher is fighting against and refuting, and what exact position Letcher is asserting.
Ruck doesn’t care AT ALL about Amanita, he ONLY cares about Secret Amanita. Why doesn’t Letcher Hatsis write a book titled Roasting Carl Ruck, since THAT is who he is windmill-tilting against?
Even confused John Lash, who ingested too many “psychomimetics” because he wants to “mimic the mind”, has the good sense to ridicule Wasson’s stupid “eccentric” latching onto Amanita.
John Lash is proud to have found the unique, only psalter that contains any mushroom imagery.
To pull this off, Lash had to suppress, cover-up, and remove the others.
Lash was as disappointed as any entheogen scholar, to find that, alas, the church contains countless thousands of mushrooms imagery – quick, get Ruck to neutralize each find by hastening to frame it as “alien, heretical, elite, suppressed, secret”, etc.
Above all, we gotta save our #1 main driving narrative (far more important than merely finding lots of mushrooms and repealing Psilocybin prohibition), that the Big Bad Church & Genesis Eden God the Modern Drug Prohibitionist got rid of all mushrooms.
Winkelman can help you limit your Bible interpretation to a Sunday School child’s level, to save our most important narrative and objective: to cry about the lack of mushrooms, even though we entheogen scholars have to suppress all the evidence of mushrooms, to keep up that most-important appearance that we are fervently committed to and fully invested in.
If you have a beef against Wasson & Ruck & Heinrich then — — then take it up with them, by name, not some purely abstracted position that you create and redefine and propagate constantly, “the secret Amanita cult theory”.
Each writer has particular mistakes; precision and specificity, not broad blanket refutation (tilting at your own abstracted windmills), is needed.
Hatsis lists his sites in the Description of these YouTube videos.
https://www.innertraditions.com/search/hatsis
The Sacred Mushroom Conspiracy
Thomas Hatsis, 2022
http://amzn.com/B08KQMY3J9
Park Street Press
Evidence that Hatsis had that book ID & title:
Search “Sacred Mushroom Conspiracy” Hatsis book
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Sacred+Mushroom+Conspiracy%22+Hatsis+book
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LVmXZXdU5Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G7yiTwLr6o –
“Hatsis is the author of “The Witches Ointment,” “Psychedelic Mystery … 2021) and “The Sacred Mushroom Conspiracy” (spring, 2022).“
“Microdosing Magic,” and the forthcoming books “LSD The Wonderchild” (summer, 2021) and “The Sacred Mushroom Conspiracy” (spring, 2022).
Search Hatsis’ publisher for “Hatsis”: https://www.innertraditions.com/search/hatsis
“Psanctum Psychedelia is a non-profit psychedelics research, educational, and harm reduction organization located in Portland, Oregon.
Since forming in 2018, Psanctum Psychedelia has hosted a variety of speakers knowledgeable in the latest, cutting-edge advances in psychedelic science, history, anthropology, and spirituality. We threw the Gaian Mind Psychedelic Conference in 2019, and host the Psanctum Open Mic every Monday.
Our mission is to respect the deep traditions of various peoples all over the world, while coupling those insights with the latest breakthroughs in psychedelic science and technologies.”
One of Hatsis’ articles argues: “If you assert that Christians used mushrooms, then you are DEFINITELY doing culturecide. If you assert that Christians did not use mushrooms, then you are definitely NOT doing culturecide.” This prejudice is what the (failed, esotericism-illiterate) Psychedelic Witch calls “respecting the traditions of peoples all over the world.”
“We value the wild, the weird, and the wonderful—and see viable connections between the scientific and the spiritual, the traditional and the innovative, and the magical and the measurable aspects of the psychedelic experience.
Please enjoy our videos and blog, and don’t forget to visit the Psanctum Psychedelic library!”
The YouTube vid lists: https://www.facebook.com/groups/psanctum.org
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G7yiTwLr6o –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LVmXZXdU5Q – 5Q has more contacts/sites than other vid:
Thomas Hatsis is the author of “The Witches Ointment,” “Psychedelic Mystery Traditions,” “Microdosing Magic,” and the forthcoming books “LSD The Wonderchild” (summer, 2021) and “The Sacred Mushroom Conspiracy” (spring, 2022).
Go ahead Hatsis make it official, publish your official folly book, carved in stone.
The anti-mushroom “psychedelic witch”, self-contradiction incarnate, #1 follower of Allegro, “Allegro’s book is really great”.
Um, no, it’s not, Hastsis – Allegro’s book is entirely irrelevant for entheogen scholarship.
At best, Allegro’s book is in no way special, you’re wrong in treating/ pushing it as special, talismanic. Top 10?! Why?
SMC is no more interesting than other books. Not special.
It’s just another mixed bag, to be untangled and sifted and reworked, just like any other book.
There IS much to be said against the awful way Amanita has served as a false theory to prevent a true theory. I’m aligned allied w Hatsis in dethroning the greatest Mystery entheogen, Amanita: its effects completely unknown, and therefore the worst possible representation of psychedelic effects.
No one wants it, no one uses it, the only thing we can say is it hurts the stomach and it is not a classic psychedelic.
Amanita is the opposite of useful for explanatory theory.
I welcome a book that throws this false king, Amanita, preventer of comprehension, off of the throne.
🍄 –> 🗑
See Also
My joke book review (written a surprisingly long time ago) of Hatsis’ forthcoming book:
Book review: The Sacred Mushroom Conspiracy (Hatsis) Dec. 16, 2020
https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/12/16/book-review-the-sacred-mushroom-conspiracy-hatsis/
Hatsis the #1 Follower of Allegro:
Reading Allegro Again (Hatsis 2015)
https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2023/02/18/reading-allegro-again-hatsis-2015/
My links to Hatsis’ articles: https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/10/31/psychedelic-mystery-traditions-hatsis/#Hatsis
Irvin’s Salamander article (original PDF title, with appendixes including questions for Ruck & Irvin):
Roasting the Salamander: Mushroom Cult Theorists Vs. Critical Historical Inquiry
August 18, 2013 (the earliest home page archived on that date has this article)
https://web.archive.org/web/20160218214557/http://arspsychedelia.com/uploads/3/2/1/4/3214063/roasting_the_salamander.pdf
I’ve explained the esoteric mystic-state analogies in the right-foot “dancing man”/salamander image:
Salamander Mushroom Tree Right Side Cut (Dancing Man; Roasting Salamander Bestiary Image)
https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/04/13/salamander-mushroom-tree-right-side-cut/