omfg i can’t believe, at 23:00 asserting Stamets says there was tons Psilocybin in Europe. The misimpression is Stamets’ fault b/c he was so lackadaisical in his book Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World.
url 22:45 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkuNEBstkFs&t=1366s
Stamets couldn’t be bothered to make a clear statement on the topic as a topic.
Cleaned up extract about Psil in Eur:
Transcription by Cybermonk
Joe of Psychedelics Today podcast/outlet:
In Visionary was this comment about psilocybin-containing mushrooms never existing in Europe, and one famous mycologist you chatted with said there’s no evidence, like before Columbus discovered the Americas, and then you passed this by Stamets, and Stamets said that’s that’s totally absurd.
Hancock:
Yeah of course, and I had another mycologist do the DNA on Psilocybe semilanceata from North America and Psilocybe semilanceata from Europe, and these psilocybes have been evolving separately for tens of thousands of years, probably hundreds of thousands of years, so it’s got absolutely nothing to do with contact between the new world and the old, but there always were psilocybe mushrooms in Europe, just as there always were in the Americas, and you know they’re– the Psilocybe semilanceata of course is just one amongst many, you know, there’s many more; this is a universally available technique.
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that isn’t all there is to reality and that’s one of the great teachings I think of the plant medicines
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um yeah um now one thing that really struck me
Mushrooms in Europe
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in Visionary was um this this comment about
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um psilocybin containing mushrooms never existing in Europe and one famous Mycologist you chatted with said yeah
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they they there’s no evidence like before Columbus discovered the Americas or whatever and then uh you you pass
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this by stamets and stamets said that’s that’s totally absurd um yeah like of course and I had another
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Mycologist do the DNA on sinus cyber semi lanciata from North America and Simon silicon semi lanciata from Europe
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and these these um psilocytes have been evolving separately for tens of thousands of years probably hundreds of
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thousands of years so it’s got absolutely nothing to do with contact between the new world and the old but they’re always with psilocide mushrooms
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in Europe uh just as they’re always were in the in in the Americas um and and you know they’re the salicide
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sevillanciato [Psilocybe semilanceata] of course is just one amongst many you know there’s many more um this is a
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a universally available um technique for entering a deeply altered state of consciousness yeah and
European Traditions
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a topic I love um to bring up you know uh Europeans have been dealing
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with um the Catholic Church kind of stomping out magic for you know well over a
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thousand years um and uh we don’t really talk about that I I was chatting um I had some
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Twitter comment uh trying to say that you know Europeans had access and somebody was like that’s the worst of
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colonialism suggesting that Europeans had magic and access um that’s how I interpreted the
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statement but you know we have we have all these alchemical texts we
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have all sorts of magicians a large history of Witchcraft um you know where where do you like to
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go with this topic um about like European traditions well first first of all it’s it’s it’s
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it’s it’s obvious it’s I do go into it in Supernatural back in 2005 and I do
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um and and I also wrote the forward to bran Murray rescue’s book The the immortality key because because there’s
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no doubt there’s no doubt that the mainstream monotheistic faiths do have their origin in Altered States Of
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Consciousness I think I think to argue differently would be a mistake but it’s particularly true with Christianity the
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early Christians uh were gnostics and and gnosticism is about revealed
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knowledge it’s not stuff you could teach it’s stuff you have to experience uh and and the experiences Unleashed
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by the plant medicines are exactly the kind of experiences that are described for example at eluses uh the the
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ellucinian mysteries in ancient Greece and these move on into early early Christianity and it was just
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early Christianity as I as I see it and as I’ve researched it was multifaceted there were many different kinds of idea
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uh that defined it that were defined as Christian um it was on it only became
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crystallized into the Roman Catholic Church when Rome made Christianity the
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official religion of the State under Constantine that’s when that’s when one
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particular faction of Christianity pulled on the Jack Boots of the Roman Empire and began to stomp on everyone
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else and stomp out everyone else and to deny uh to deny that there had been any
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such thing as Altered States Of Consciousness and to viciously penalize
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people who explored Altered States Of Consciousness and and in due course of course to burn which is at the stake and
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to burn so-called witches and to burn the the early gnostics were also burned at the stake uh clearly uh early early
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Catholicism has a great deal to answer for uh and and it has limited and narrowed down uh the the potential of
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Christianity look I’m not a Christian I I’m I I don’t I don’t Embrace any of the monotheistic faiths but but I do believe
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uh that that life is is deeply mysterious um and uh that that it’s the spirit in
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us it’s the soul in us that that that matters I I I think we’re much too
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focused in the modern world on things on physical things on ownership on possession on defining ourselves in
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terms of what we own and what we possess um science operates in exactly the same
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way materialist reductionism everything’s got to be reduced to some sort of material process so so
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Consciousness is just an an accidental byproduct of of brain activity you know
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I mean all of these all of these things are very very unhelpful to us and I
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think it’s possible to have a deeply spiritual outlook on life without being you know a Christian or or or a Muslim
See Also
Visionary: The Mysterious Origins of Human Consciousness (The Definitive Edition of Supernatural)
April 4, 2022
Graham Hancock
https://www.amazon.com/Visionary-Mysterious-Consciousness-Definitive-Supernatural/dp/1637480067/
I have Supernatural, what page is about Psil in Europe? Added to the Visionary revised edition?
Brown vs Hatsis at Hancock site
https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2023/01/22/prof-jerry-browns-works-psychedelic-gospels/#Graham-Hancock-Website-article
The Egodeath theory 