Egodeath Mystery Show Ep259 Cubensis-driven entheogen scholarship (November 28 🦃, 2024)

This Episode talks-through an outline of the journal article:
Cubensis-driven entheogen scholarship: The most productive, relevant, and rewarding approach – todo: transcribe the episode into the present webpage, then copy into the above article.

Contents:

  • Download Link
  • Image Crops
    • Philosophers Beside the Tree – Splendor Solis
    • Worldline in Block Universe, Snake in Rock, Transcending the Block Universe
    • Creation of Plants, right pilzbaum pair, reversed
  • The Nature of this Episode Content
  • Content/Timestamps
  • Forbidden Word List
  • Bibliography Entries
  • {knife} = threat of loss of control, driving mental model transformation
  • Dittrich: APZ, OAV, 5D-ASC
  • Studerus: 11 Factors
  • Convert Transcendent Terror to Grief, make $ – Griftiths
  • The Red Shift Corruption of Art by Entheogen Scholars, to Delete Blue Mushrooms
  • Source Recordings: 6246.wav
  • See Also
Cybermonk

good for only 3 days, starting Nov 29, 2024: https://we.tl/t-8ZEka4IvRY

“Ep259 Cubensis-driven entheogen scholarship.mp3”
114 MB, stereo, 1:02:04 length

https://we.tl/t-NInvCPOygO – no metadata eg doesn’t say artist = Cybermonk

Image Crops

Philosophers Beside the Tree – Splendor Solis

Worldline in Block Universe, Snake in Rock, Transcending the Block Universe

Creation of Plants, right pilzbaum pair, reversed

The Nature of this Episode Content

Discussing what content to include in my broad-scoped article that’s a supplement to branching-message mushroom trees article for Journal of Psychedelic Studies.

The broad-scoped supplemental article is being drafted at page https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2024/11/20/cubensis-driven-entheogen-scholarship-the-most-productive-relevant-and-rewarding-approach/

Narrow-scoped, main article: https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2023/02/16/branching-message-mushroom-trees-psychedelic-eternalism-depicted-in-medieval-art-as-branching-mushrooms-handedness-and-non-branching/

Content/Timestamps

No music/ no guitar.

0:00 – Intro, from end of the yesterday’s Thanksgiving 2024 recording. “Intro 6246 VOX_TK_6246”

Egodeath Mystery Show with Cybermonk . You’re on the leading edge of altered state theory. Thursday, Thanksgiving, November 28, 2024. VOX_TK_6246.wav.

0:24 – Content Part A, 15 minutes

I ‘m not present in Hanegraaff’s thought world.

I rejected in 1985-86 I believed in ego transcendence, Transcendent Knowledge.

Why did I take mystics seriously in their general claim?

I called it egoic thinking vs. transcendent thinking: figure out the difference, explain it clearly and succinctly, per STEM communication.

Ken Wilber has a 12-stage scheme, Alan Watts has 2 stages.

Satori/ enlightenment/ those on the inside, must be a simple trick.

They must be presenting something that can be expressed more simply.

Upon breakthrough on Jan. 11, 1988, my project changed: now, explain mental model transformation, not to expect posi-control like during my Oct 1985-Dec 1987 phase.

1997 outline summary uses almost no analogy.

5:00 – they aren’t interested in psychedelics; Ruck instead…. Stoddard in Reply to McCarthy & Priest, “wildly speculative and inherently sensationalistic“, cites Allegro 1970 & Mura 2020. They are wildly speculative, as charged. Separarting entheogens from Church

10:00 – Ruck’s approach: construct Prohibition. My approach: build model of Transcendent Knowledge; mental model transformation, in 1986 then change direction in 1988. 2001: assume myth comes from psil. thus expect them to report same expereiences. I was still in 1997 allowing meditation.

17:48 – radio spot “intro VOX_TK_3442”

18:00 – Content Part B, 15 minutes

20:00 –

31:48 – Radio spot: You are on the leading edge… “LeadingASC – VOX_TK_2928”

30:00 –

31:58 – Content Part C, 15 minutes – Moving Past Mysticism article debate

40:00 –

45:25 – Radio spot: my websites (3)

45:38 – Content Part D, 15 minutes – 3 paradigms.

Hanegraaff book Esotericism and the Academy implies 3-4 approaches, none match mine, my approach is not to write a history of Western Esotericism.

I’m an engineer / Cognitive Scientist writing a useful explanatory model of mental model transformation along with a theory of religious myth & religious art as analogy that describes that cubensis-driven mental model transformation.

Huggins’ article denying mushroom trees implies two paradigms and I am a 3rd. He sloppily says PMTs, psychedelic mushroom theorists, but doesn’t define “psychedelic mushroom theory”, doesn’t define his position, as a denier.

  • Affirmers (“PMTs”) – Bennett 1993, Irvin, John Rush, Ruck & Staples Conjuring Eden 2001.
  • Deniers – Panofsky, Wasson, Letcher, Hatsis, Bennett 2021, Huggins.
  • My theory. pilzbaum aren’t trees, and aren’t mushrooms. Pilzbaum are branching mushrooms to make viewers think of psychedelic eternalism.

50:00 – Ruck is assuming ppl are demanding to explain/ fabricate a story about secrecy. Stop making that your project. Explaining mushrooms in religion has nothing to do with secrecy. 10 year moratorium on word “secret”. Stop putting forth explanatory hypoth about secrecy; simply say: mushroom were there/used. End. My motivations – I’m a successful example – my approach had no consideration of secrecy; would’ve been counterproductive. the Explicit Cubensis paradigm completely avoids all of that distraction and hindrance that makes you blind. The concern about storytelling causes blindness and causes ddeleting mushroom, and causes serving the false king amanita.

discuss lash, girrifiths vs johhnson: Moving Past Mysticism, need to bring these diverse things – shallowly – a survey article, my global broad perspective on the field of entheogen scholarship and the various paradigms…. one-stop shopping for my view on:

  • debagtes, tendencies, paradigms in entheogen scholarship
  • Psych Science, Q-airs, superior merit of DED / OAV over MEQ/CEQ.
  • oav
  • ceq fixed
  • artificially fabricated Grief subset
  • 10 mini-articles in one.
  • Heimarmene level 8, astral ascent mysticism – explain the basic model, quote Erik Davis’ two pages in LZ IV book.
  • State of the field of entheogen scholarship. What it did right, wrong, succeeded, failed, putting the Secret Amanita paradigm behind us as dead end, make red serve blue, not vv. Eadwine does that as a model: he showed IY red in Creation of Plants, nice, but reversed.
  • Red Shift in Irvin & Entheos 3 including explain Mith’m and astral ascent mysticism , and contrast 2-level Transcendent Knowledge of Early Antiqy vs. 3-level in Late Antiqy, Cosmology and Fate book – see my review, extract the 3-item summary system.
  • the master xfmn of Early Anti

55:30 – In Early Antiquity, the master (most-emph’d) transformation was from possibilism-thinking to eternalism thinking.

in Late Antiquity, the master (most-emph’d) transformation was from (naive possibilism and) eternalism to qualified possibilism. To out-do Early Ant’y. Hanegraaff quote: d/k where to put fixed stars: planet 7, or Ogdoad?

Creation of Plants id’d as Pan Lib Cub Ama on Dec 13 2020. Moral: we had since 2000, in 2020 figured out – 20 years! slow! This (entheogen scholarship, & psyched science) is a pre-science in its infancy, it can only be called a science now with since 2023, with my interp in hand; psychedelic eternalism.

1:00:00 –

1:01:31 – radio spot – “EDMS Left Right Wet Dry rvb80pctSpread”

1:02:04 – end

Forbidden Word List

secret, hidden, forbidden, prohibited

sects/ groups/ communities / cults/ [secret] societies/ initiates/ insiders/ Mysteries

Amanita, Allegro, Plaincourault; Eleusis, ergot

Bibliography Entries

Cyberdisciple – Against the Assumption of Suppression of Psychedelics in Pre-Modernity.

Max Freakout Transcendent Knowledge podcast, re: Ruck

“The more evidence Ruck collects, the more a contradiction arises: Entheogens were everywhere, but no one really knew about it. So which is it?”

Freakout, Max – article on perception per:

  • The Egodeath theory
  • the Core theory, of:
  • mental model transformation from possibilism to eternalism
  • mental model transformation from ordinary-state possibilism to psychedelic eternalism
  • mental model transformation from:
    [omit ‘literalist’] [ordinary-state possibilism with autonomous control]
    (OPAC, not LOPAC)
    to:
    [omit ‘analogical’] [psychedelic eternalism with dependent control]
    (PEDC, not APEDC)
    • vs the Mytheme theory, which is Analogical.
    • The Mytheme theory has excellent decoding power.
    • The mytheme theory is fluent in Analogy for the things of the ASC, purpose-built/ optimized.
      • The mytheme theory is not based on analogy.
      • The Egodeath theory (incl the mytheme theory) is based on STEM clear direct explanatory model efficiently presented by leveraging separately analogies.
      • Highly capable of decoding analogies to identify the ultimate referent, the non-analogy referent directly identified clearly,
      • The referent mental dynamic (thing experienced in the asc, loose cog state) is clarified by analogies (
      • By the definition of ‘analogy‘, this application of analogy is exactly the purpose of analogy: to clarify explanation of a thing being explained and described.
  • The cybernetic theory
  • Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism
  • Analogical psychedelic eternalism with dependent control
  • Psychedelic eternalism
  • Psychedelic eternalism with dependent control

{knife} = threat of loss of control, driving mental model transformation

[11:24 pm Nov. 29, 2024] Saint Martin frescos knife = threat of loss of control, weilding it by higher mind against lower control-system mind, disprove branching world and control, but harm not the boy.

Preserve deluded thinking, possibilism-thinking, needed all the time.

But cleansed of delusion about it that bedevils, causing loss of control.

Stabilized control by learning eternalism and transcending it actually.

By conforming to eternalism.

Not just “tool to cut branches”; knife = potential loss of control, the higher mind sacrificing the lower mind, violating it formally, to come into coherence.

Stable control eventually when reached is clean, righteous, innocent in God’s / Creator’s court.

I am a virtual-only control agent, so, clean, pure, not offending the higher controller.

Lower local control agency is not set against the uncontrollable higher mysterious controller. Cleansed puppet of God

Mysterious Control Agent
the Mystery Controller
Mystery Source of Control Thoughts fountain

/11:24 pm nov 29 2024

Question 54! 😱🐉

Dittrich: APZ, OAV, 5D-ASC

Studerus: 11 Factors

+ Virtual factor 12 & Shadow factor 13, & the two top-level factors – containing factor items and non-factor items (virtual factors to magically ignore when doing Science).

therefore: Giant Grief coun$elling factor.

Convert Transcendent Terror to Grief, make $ – Griftiths

😞🍄🤑💰 👞💥🐉🗑

piggybacks on OAV taken from 5D-ASC, plays shell games with “factors” at two levels, creating non-factor factors, or non-factor items/ effects questions.

Panke, SOCQ, MEQ42, MEQ30

CEQ disaster, pulled from MEQ, 5D-ASC, only the 11 Factors subset of 5D-ASC ie OAV, ended w/ 18 of 21 Angst effects being deleted and replaced by Grief coun$elling.

To create CEQ, start w only 13 of 21 Angst items, end up keeping only 3 Angst effects items.

Tell W Hanegraaff about this Rejected Knowledge: CEQ rejected 18 of 21 of Dittrich’s Dread psychedelic effects.

Justification: vague math, arm waving, behind the scenes juggling “items” arbitrarily.

The Red Shift Corruption of Art by Entheogen Scholars, to Delete Blue Mushrooms

  • cover of Entheos 3 reverses Taurus (disaster!) and shifts violently from blue to red, rendering the Psilocybin mushroom invisible.
  • Irvin gallery in THM red-shift to try to force Dancing Man from Blue to Red – quote Huggins ~2024 Dizzy article who points this out.

Source Recordings: 6246.wav

VOX_TK_6246.wav – Celestial Planisphere notebook p. 41: 2 lines.
Raw length: 1:36:08.

See Also

https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2023/04/02/roasting-entheogen-scholarship-how-the-field-of-entheogen-scholarship-was-wrecked-by-the-amanita-primacy-fallacy/ – on Nov 29, 2024, I printed & read & edited; I printed and read this v1 of a supplemental broad-scoped article, to be superseded by “‘Cubensis-driven entheogen scholarship” article.

https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2023/04/18/the-amanita-paradigm-vs-the-psilocybin-paradigm/ – on Nov 29, 2024, I printed & read & edited.

https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2023/04/21/how-the-amanita-paradigm-was-a-failure-and-was-discredited-and-replaced-by-the-psilocybin-paradigm/ – on Nov 29, 2024, I printed & read. todo: incorp markup into article.

In “Idea Development page 19” I mention the idea of breaking out a full separate aux article to support the “branching-message mushroom trees” article and reduce wordcount pressure on that article. Section “Writing a Pair of Articles”: https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2023/03/22/idea-development-page-19/#Writing-a-Pair-of-Articles

Old title, & old spinoff article: (updated in the above link):

  • Article 1: Branching-Message Mushroom Trees: Psychedelic Eternalism Depicted in Medieval Art as Branching Mushrooms, Handedness, and Non-Branching
  • Article 2: Roasting Entheogen Scholarship: How the Field of Entheogen Scholarship Was Malformed by the Amanita Primacy Fallacy
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