Egodeath Mystery Show Ep261 Competent Art Historians Wrote Nothing (Nov. 17 & 26, 2024)

Contents

Top Priority for Ruck: Define the Boundary Between Our Secret Mushroom Cults and the Evil Mainstream, in the Eternal Battle Against the Prohibitionist Mainstream

The Definitive Prohibition Barrier that Constructs Our Identity as Oppressed Havers of Secret Amanita – if it didn’t exist, we’d have to invent it

1:25:00 [mobile] – Ruck is busy working hard to construct boundaries, he mistakes that for his scholarly product.

“I know that you need me to define where the Prohibition Boundary is. To explain = to draw/define this boundary.”

The Egodeath theory holds instead:

There’s a giant set of all Christians – not “groups”, “sects”, “an order”, “cult”, “communities”, a “secret society”. None of that matters.

What matters is to find evidence that there were 2+ self-identified Christians who used Cubensis.

Christianity has an important Cubensis tradition. Proved by 2 instances:

  • Saint Eustace Crossing the River; a Chartres Cathedral window.
  • Eadwine’s leg-hanging mushroom tree image in the Great Canterbury Psalter. f134 eg Row 1 Left.

Behind ox up to blue bowl up to dispensary case into sacks leading to advanced understanding of {mushrooms}, {branching}, {handedness}, and {stability} motifs.

Stable control in loosecog from Cubensis by standing on Right foot not Left foot; affirm the non-branching model of control and possibilities.

Repudiate relying on the branching model, although use the branching model masterfully, transcendently.

Recognize that the egoic control branching model is virtual-only.

You always use the egoic control system and need the remnant of the purified, qualified, egoic control system, cleansed, healed, transformed, now taken as virtually autonomous power and virtual only steering through a branching tree seemingly, vigorously, carrying a load through the experiential branching tree, while able to keep stable control by not relying on the branching worldmodel of control and possibilities.

9:20 – Everyone thinks all theology stands or falls with Plainc fresco.

Theology of Fall and Sin, therefore, Not A Mushroom. [🍄] picture kiddie Amanita, only.

See somewhere in one of Hatsis’ overpriced books.

Psychedelic Mystery Traditions – Hatsis 2018 – His half-page treatment of pilzbaum: a methodology chastisement/bragging, then a citation “as proved in my articles somewhere at my website.” (Thank you for buying my book.)

He treats our tree (Plainc obv’ly) in terms of theology, as his treatment of pilzbaum.

15:30 Panofsky letter 2. Would not have painted branches. So, not a mushroom. especially ignorant craftsman.

Brown Changed “product” (prototype) to “project” (fresco), Messing Up My Interpretation

I should have know when the writing & reasoning is so rough and detailed, I would have to read from the photo of Pan’s letters, which I did (enhanced by me).

I should have known not to rely on transcription, given the importance of every word in these letters.

Brown screwed up, misquoted Panofsky letter in a way that messed me up in Egodeath Mystery Show episode.

In the next show, I had to retract my Brown-caused interpretation error, and had to go Back to the Sources and read the photo of the Panofsky letter that Brown provided in the same article.

Panofsky wrote “the finished product” ie the prototype, after accidental development of pine by sloppy artists with no intentionality (when the topic is mushrooms).

Against Brown, Panofsky did not write “the finished project“, which would mean the fresco, which is not what Panofsky means.

24:00 Rolfe and Rolfe, is there an illustration referred to in the Amanita passage? A Curious Myth.

25:25 When Wasson revealed in 1968 SOMA, why didn’t “mycologists” demand citations from Panofsky?

What are the best passages about pilzbaum by the CREDIBLE art historians WHO HAVE STUDIED THE TOPIC.

Just give me your top 10. Top 5? Can you just give me ONE citation?

Page 87 of the 86 page book has the proof. I reached out and contacted the artist.

Why not just read their article/book section where the historian published writings on this topic?

Are they not competent and relevant?

How come they didn’t write a single sentence on this topic?

When you’re berating the enthusiasts for not “consulting” the “competent” art historians – DO YOU MEAN READ THEIR WRITINGS?

CITATION NEEDED, PLEASE, WE ARE WAITING.

Paul Thagard: Conceptual Revolutions book

2:00:00

Definition of concepts, rules, explanations, overview of the chatpers of the book.

degrees of conceptual change.

Conceptual Revolutions book.

Add a new Kind relation.

Add a new Concept.

Abandon a previous distinction eg “mainstream Christianity vs sect cult group communities – get rid of that class of Boundary words.

more than “belief revision”, weak concept. conceptual change.

me: how an entire system of concepts can be replaced: must redefine as well as reorg the parts/concepts.

a theory of conceptual change, must be able to describe the mechanisms [end of recording – check next track, VOX_TK_6241.wav?

Branch switching.

Tree reorganizing.

Kinds of epistemic change.

Branch jumping.

Block list: “initiates”. “secret” “hidden” “underground” “heretical sects”

oh BTW ALL 3 ENTHEOS ISSUES CONTAIN RUCK WRITING “SO-CALLED HERETICS” OR “SO-CALLED HERETICAL SECTS” – found in Notes online detailed endnotes for article on Mithras in Entheos Issue 3 (September 2002).

Amanita Hype

Mithraism = Secret Amanita!

🤯

Found in Rutajit book: too embarrassing to photograph it seems; I thought “not worth it”.

I need gallery examples of the Amanita Primacy Fallacy.

Amanita would be most useful to me by putting Amanita in greatest service for the glorification of Cubensis.

Maximize Amanita by putting it at the service of Cubensis glorification. When you go to the headshop, remember this principle: spotted mushroom = Cubensis, not Amanita. Remember, Amanita is a poison mushroom like scopalamine, the know-nothing Guides are right – a dummy token half-delirious halucinogen.

Those things they told you about psychedelics being hallucinogen is true, as Brown & Brown (thus double points for each word) assert in their subtitle:

The SECRET history of HALLUCINOGENS in Christianity

i.e. Secret Amanita
so buy this book

🤫🍄

Dear World, I actually suck as an entheogen, and just like in headshop art, {spotted mushroom} means Cubensis. Good luck learning control-stability on the real deal, high-dose Psilocybin; can’t help you there.

🍄 Amanita, King of Exoteric Esotericism 👑🤡

I’m gonna photo the two pages raving about HOW POWERFUL AND EFFECTIVE AMANITA IS, THE SUPREME, BEST ENTHEOGEN that the others can only wish they could be. – Andrew Rutajit’s 2005 book, forward/ recommendation by Jan Irvin.

Amanita Hype! I ally with Letcher Hatsis Huggins himself, to overthrow Amanita Hype

Who (that follows Ruck) would’ve guessed!

Mobile timestamps are way off, off by minutes.
move to Timestamps section

Images

Crop by Cybermonk
Crop / proc’g by Cybermonk

“Creation of Plants”, Great Canterbury Psalter.
Crop by Cybermonk, uploaded to gallery Feb. 14, 2023
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f177 – the Blue cut branch is Correct, Red is incorrect

crop & annots by Cybermonk

Red/white demoted to backdrop for measuring out Cubensis

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I’m continuing to produce a few episodes of Egodeath Mystery Show using recordings that I mentioned during hiatus June 2023-Nov 2024.

Input Recordings Used

This episode produced December 1, 2024. Existing webpage https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2024/11/26/idea-development-page-20/ favorably mentions two recordings:

VOX_TK_6204.wav Nov 17 2024 4:29 pm 629 MB, 59:25.
Mono, close-miked; dry. EV 635A dyn “omni” mic, noise gate NS-2 (too heavy; chopping syllables a little; should have opened gate more).

VOX_TK_6240.wav Nov 26 2024 6:54 pm 1.22 GB, 1:54:51
Stereo room-miked; wet. 635 center 1′; AT2020 L 4′, CAD E100 R 4′.

Errata: Slightly Muted in First Half

First 50 minute recording has too much Noise Gate, Muting Me, Poor Quality.

  • Content – Very good
  • Delivery – Very good.
  • Miking – Poor, in that the Gate muted me too much. Clear and quiet, other than that.

In Future, Open Up the Noise Gate.

The sound is so much better in March 23, 2023 4.5-hour episode Ep263, than newly recently recorded Nov, 17, 2024 (6204.wav) – same hookup but not room mics; middle close mic only, with Noise Gate closed too much.

It would be way better to have room noise + audible.

General Description of Episode Content

2nd half is summary of reading Paul Thagard’s book Conceptual Revolutions.
https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/11/15/conceptual-revolutions/
Ruck’s less-than-paradigm, Secret Amanita Church History self-contradictory just-so story; a pseudo-explanation story.

Ruck fabricates a “History” that’s based in myth & storytelling for purpose of the scholar’s self-identity formation, per Wouter Hanegraaff’s critique of historiography of Western Esotericism.

~1:30:00 – I rapid-read Revelation to find if Michael reveals all secrets – he does not; that was a long-term confabulation of mine, defining my identity/role: since 1986, I follow the model of Michael the Archangel misread until Nov. 26, 2024 as revealer of all things.

I am the Anti-Secret. Explicit Cubensis; I deliver psychedelic eternalism on a silver platter.

1:38:00 During 1952-1970-2001-2024, entheogen scholarship was dominated by the Secret Amanita paradigm.

Ruck’s incoherent story that led McCarthy/Priest to wrongly write “Ruck’s theory is that in 325 AD, institutional Christianity omitted entheogens”.

Ruck’s actual position (a mess): Church got rid of entheogens AND Church was filled with entheogens; no one knew about The Mushroom; AND all heretics and fringe groups used Amanita.

See Cyberdisciple’s article section:
Article: Criticism of mushrooms in Christian art by Tom Hatsis and Chris Bennett
Section: Finding psychedelics in history and the understanding of “secrecy” and “mystery”
https://cyberdisciple.wordpress.com/2021/09/26/criticism-of-mushrooms-in-christian-art-by-tom-hatsis-and-chris-bennett/#secrecy

1:45:00 My reading of the book Conceptual Revolutions continues, with my commentary about paradigms in entheogen scholarship.

The theory of psychedelic eternalism is based in Cognitive Science, where I am / my theory is definitive, of Psychedelic Cognitive Science:
I Am the Door to Loose Cog Sci. There is no “old theory” or “old paradigm” in my field, other than notions of what Satori / spirituality mysticism is about – murky, blurry esotericism, messy, overgrown.

In 1986 i said we need a clear alternative to this Mush paradigm; need small tight efficient useful, not poorly messily garbled folk CRUDE and MESSY mass of esotericism vs. my clear-cut compact small efficient specific system, compact model w/ strong explanatory power.

The Old paradigm = Inarticulate Special Knolwedge that revels in obfuscation, obscurantism, occlusion, secrecy, poetry, hiding, mush.

Transcendent Knowledge is there but is Overgrown; can’t see the trellis, buried under accretions of junk obscuring the underlying structure/ message.

30 years of Meditation didn’t work? Not a defective product; you did it wrong, meditate another 130 years.

My retort: I’m going to deliver the goods in 3.5 years — on a silver platter as a tool, packaged, useful, usable – not unusable like “enlightenment” in 1985.

Ken Wilber is perhaps the best, but he has the wrong engine: Wilber’s complex system lacks analogical psychedelic eternalism with dependent control.

1:50:00 — Theory of conceptual revolutions. How conceptual systems are formed and replaced. Paul Thagard book. Belief revision, conceptual change.

Recording 6204.wav with its timestamps

Description of 6204.wav raw recording, per my Celestial Planisphere notebook pp. 38-39

Paradise trees subset of Panofsky’s “hundreds of pilzbaum” – they are specifically trying to interpret Plaincourault by driving from OSC-framed flatland reading, such as Thomas Hatsis’ escape into an OSC -based theology argument:

The Plaincourault fresco depicts the Fall of Man, therefore, it’s not Secret Amanita; so, not a mushroom.

17:00 – I read aloud Panofsky letter 1. “I will agree it’s a mushroom if we assume that the idiot artist misunderstood the prototype, and thought the prototype meant “draw a mushroom” – but the idiot artist drew branches, so, not a mushroom.”

27:00 – Brinckmann in 1906 had no concept of “magic mushroom” or “psychoactive mushroom”.

34:00 – “competent” art historians

51:00 proves nothing eager amanita SMC Secret Mushroom Cult Hatsis, the “Amanita = Xmas gift” folk myth. Allegro (proves nothing) is on the rise, selling like hotcakes, the Irvin-produced book with howler of a mistake by Ruck about Dancing Man having “red” cap (it’s blue).

The Secret Amanita brand of entheogen scholarship is broad pointless enthusiasm going nowhere. Pop frenzy going where? Psychedelic Christianity. Has a Cubensis paradigm. During 1957-2024 no one tried to find that Christianity had a Cubensis tradition [but quote the 1997 Samorini article], not only an Amanita tradition.

They made scholars hypnotized: you can’t think of Cubensis in Europe.

Was there a Cubensis tradition in Christianity? There are 2+ art instances, so Yes:

  • St. Eustace crossing river.
  • Eadwine folio f143, f145, f177.

The word ‘Cubensis’ has the power of shattering; Cubensis is an effective spearhead.

Cubensis as a spearhead punches through, whereas the term “Psilocybin” is not parallel with “Amanita” and does’t punch through competitively the same way as the term ‘Cubensis’.

Even if friend is correct that no one knows the word “Cubensis”, the all-popular psil mushroom that everyone knows is Cubensis.

Description of raw recording 6204 per webpage:

https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2024/11/26/idea-development-page-20/

Good miking/ delivery/ content: 59:25 length.

  • Paradise Pilzbaum / trees subset of Pilzbaum: Panosky critical reading of letter 1 (uncensored per Brown).
  • Directionless Ruck entheogen scholarship, not Psil Repeal.

Recording 6240.wav with its timestamps

Description of raw recording 6240.wav per my Celestial Planisphere notebook p. 41

“Mycologists should have reached out like me to consult the competent art historians re: pilzbaum.” Totally improper, non-academic approach! Huge red flag!

Where’s the damn citation, Wasson? Ans: Censored; in Panofsky’s TWO letters to Wasson, Panofsky TWICE strongly recommended Brinckmann’s “little”, outdated book, not in English, 1906.

I am aiming exclu “scholar” – “I reached out to consult 18 competent art historians” is proof of propaganda spin; no written substance; a bluff.

Relative to my “new theory”, there is no “old science/ theory”. Per Kuhn we’re in a pre-paradigm stage; mine is the first properly formed paradigm, not folk heap of vague knowledge.

Description of raw recording 6240.wav per the webpage

https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2024/11/26/idea-development-page-20/

The Pre-Paradigm Phase of the Field of Transcendent Knowledge

45:00 – Relative to the fields of theory of religion/ Cog Sci/ Mysticism/ Spirituality/ Mythology, prior to the Egodeath theory, there is no “previous paradigm”, just a heap of “secret” exoteric-esoteric formless mush and eager pop anti-rationality.

Within entheogen scholarship, the Old Paradigm is Secret Amanita; the new paradigm is Explicit Cubensis.

The “Special-Case” of Pilzbaum (Taboo), Completely Absurd and Abnormal; the Deniers Lost this Debate —

Great funny exasperation voice recording segment:
VOX_TK_6240.wav Nov 26 2024, 10:00-20:00

TOTALLY IMPROPER!! academic approach: “I reached out to consult the top competent art historians to interrogate how quickly they disavow & deny pilzbaum.”

Huggins, Wasson, even Brown re: Marcia Kupfer

BECAUSE THEY WROTE/ PUBLISHED 0 SENTENCES on this topic, and are thus manifestly not competent; more like A COMPROMISED ART HISTORIAN.

A dirty posturing move, a fallacy: argument from authority.

Content/Timestamps

0:00 – Intro, from yesterday’s recording Ep260 outro.

0:13 – Content, from “VOX_TK_6204.wav”

8:16 – Plaincourault is “all important” b/c Fall of Man / Original Sin tree, AND, it’s Amanita!!!

Our fresco with our Amanita we are entirely attached to.

EVERYTHING stands or falls with this ONE tree, THE Amanita tree.

Bet our entire theory of religion, it stands or falls based on this one tree.

— According to the infantile childish field of Phase 1 entheogen scholarship, 1952-1996, until Samorini’s San Francisco presentation in October 1996; 1997 Plainc article; 1998 pilzbaum article.

Samorini’s work fed into Entheos 1 “Conjuring Eden” article by Ruck Heinrich Hoffman.

Also fed into that 2001 article, was Paul Lindgren’s Great Canterbury Psalter findings, per cover of 2000 book by James Arthur, M&M.

Browns’ cover is better looking version of that image, “Creation of Plants”.

10:00 –

20:00 – Reading through the 2nd letter from Panofsky to Wasson, 1952. I explain his meaning and argument in each sentence.

Including his argument from gradualness of development from pine to mushroom. Non sequitur; does not follow.

Panofsky: “The gradualness of the shift from pine to mushroom proves that the artists did not purposefully shift toward mushrooms.” ?? does not follow

The key question: What page # of Brinckmann’s book presents that point?

Remember, ppl in 1906 had no concept of psychoactive mushroom or entheogens; no concept of mushrooms causing a religious experience.

Rolfe & Rolfe 1925: The Romance of the Fungus World. But before that was Brinc 1906, and French myco soc’y 1910 (“1911, 1912”??), and per Samo 1997, Abbot ~1890-1910 said Plainc has mushroom tree w/ multiple heads.

I have the Samo 1997 pdf but can’t copypaste text from it; I must transcribe the parts where Samo args that a new fresh approach is needed.

p. 7: In ~1890-1910, Abbot Rignoux described the tree as “a mushroom with several heads”. Probably before the French group.

Footnote/ endnote 1: a French mycologist , 1910, mentioned in Soma 1967 p. 178-179. I think 1967 is error, and is 1968 – my copy lacks copyright year. wikip agrees:

  • Mushrooms, Russia and History, with Valentina Pavlovna Wasson. New York: Pantheon Books (1957)
  • Soma: Divine Mushroom of Immortality (1968)

pp. 178-179 of Soma is about French myco soc. 1910.

The Plainc. Fresco is 107 years older than Wasson & Allegro say: Samo 1997 says in Note 4, 1184 AD not 1291 AD.

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The evil rulers of the world hypnotized the populace to make it unthinkable: Was there a Psilocybin/ Cubensis tradition in Christianity?

45:01 – Content, from “VOX_TK_6240.wav”

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2:04:48 – outro, “EDMS Left Right Wet Dry rvb80pctSpread”

2:05:19 – end

See Also

https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2024/11/26/idea-development-page-20/

https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2020/11/15/conceptual-revolutions/

https://cyberdisciple.wordpress.com/2021/09/26/criticism-of-mushrooms-in-christian-art-by-tom-hatsis-and-chris-bennett/#secrecy

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