Michael Hoffman, Sunday, December 1, 2024, 11:56 pm
Good episode, 4 hours of content. I might refresh the download link on Dec. 4, because it changed from 7 days to only 3 days.
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- 4 hours of voice recording with Great Content, Delivery, and Miking
- Content, Files, Timestamps
- Part A: “Ep263a Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 53:38
- Part B: “Ep263b Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 57:17
- Part C: “Ep263c Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 54:40
- Identify Explicitly the Position Stance Bias of Each Author
- Part D: “Ep263d Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 1:00:42
- Part G: “Ep263G Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 5:06
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I might refresh the download link on Dec. 4, because it changed from 7 days to only 3 days, and it’s a good 4-hour episode.
Files: Four 1-hour voice mp3’s (parts a, b, c, d), & 1 guitar .mp3 (part G, 5 minutes):
- Part A: “Ep263a Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 53:38
- Part B: “Ep263b Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 57:17
- Part C: “Ep263c Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 54:40
- Part D: “Ep263d Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 1:00:42
- Part G: “Ep263G Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 5:06 (two parts; first half says Egodeath Mystery Show)
Good stereo room miking.
4 hours of voice recording with Great Content, Delivery, and Miking
This recording is valuable: I’m at a peak of reviewing scholarship about the Secret Amanita paradigm reviewing books including:
- McKenna – Food of the Gods – what is his view about Wasson’s theory of the “secret Amanita cult” spread? What is his view about Allegro? He doesn’t cite Ruck.
- Letcher – Good/bad book Shroom, conflating the versions of the “secret Amanita cult” theory held by different scholars, with the general idea of Christian mushroom use. 4 specific critiques, conflated with broad dismissal.
- Wasson’s views
- Ruck’s views, maybe less than the above.
Perfect, photo of scholarship May 27, 2023: In publishing order: exceptions:
- it’s a stack of 3 issues of Entheos,
- AstroSham is 2006 on top, 2009 2nd ed. underneath.
- John Rush is 2nd Ed ~2022, placed as if 2011.
- Not shown is Freke & Gandy The Jesus Mysteries 1999 I think – highly influential for me in 1999 upon entering entheogen scholarship. Has only a half page on entheogens, b/c publisher censored (per my in-person, underground meeting with them) – DO NOT CROSS THE ALLEGRO STREAMS OF AHISTORICITY AND ENTHEOGENS! Freke also wrote about no-free-will in one of his books, and more about entheogens / psychedelics in another book.
Recorded as 4.5 continuous hours of voice recording with Great Content, Delivery, and Miking
The original recording is a single 4.5-hour tracking session, that ran over the 3:22:00 length to create 2nd .wav file, contiguous.
So there is not much reason to say which of the two .wav files made it into part a/b/c/d.
It’s a single recording session later manually broken up into 4 pieces.
Content, Files, Timestamps
Content of parts a-d is initially unknown, other than notes below and in Corruption of Art webpage.
Part B: 30:00 – the the “secret Amanita cult” theory is actually Sociology theory / Anthropology theory disguised as entheogen scholarship.
These writers’ driving main purpose is to recite the Oppressor/Oppressed narrative, the evil Prohibitionist Mainstream Church vs. the good Psychedelic Counterculture Heretics.
The topic of psychedelics and repeal is merely a means to that end.
Repeal of Prohibition is ignored b/c it doesn’t help emphasize the main point & motivation of the Secret Amanita writers, which is the permanent narrative of Oppressor/Oppressed.
We can even allow the oppressor elites to have Secret Amanita:
Quote the Conclusion section’s sentence 1 in Irvin 2006 AstroSham: “Mystery entheogens were always held secret for kings, priests, and the elite.”
Irvin deleted that sentence from 2nd Ed of AstroSham after Irvin’s lecturing [THM p. 105, 2008] against Ruck’s “attempt to restrict entheogens” which is “completely unfounded; Christianity [mainstream] itself is based on entheogens.”
Quote later Ruck Effluents of Deity where Ruck switches from allowing his Heretical Sects from having Secret Amanita, to now assigning Secret Amanita to elites withholding their secret from the oppressed masses of normal lay Christians.
Part A: “Ep263a Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 53:38
0:00 – Intro. “76 intro VOX_TK_5476”. Guitar for 19 s, then add voice: “Egodeath Mystery Show. with Cybermonk. leading edge. May 23, 2023. sites”
1:03 – What am I up to? Wishing for details about Saint Eustace Crossing the River. ~
5:00 –
10:00 –
12:00 – Why do they ALWAYS say “cults”, “cult”???? WTF! What is the functional purpose of all entheogen scholars ALWAYS writing “cults”, “sects”, “communities”, “societies”, “initiates group”.
Are we doing ANTHROPOLOGY, or ENTHEOGENS – or the PSYCHEDELICS topic?
An exercise in identify formation for the scholar, as W Hanegraaff criticizes? Scholars who fail to be scientific pretend to do history about “them”, but are actually doing an exercise in self-definition. Esotericism and the Academy book by WH.
See Cyberdisciple article about Allegro and Ruck as back-door Bad Anthropology Theory that you didn’t sign up for, disguised as Psychedelics History:
https://cyberdisciple.wordpress.com/2021/09/05/reading-carl-ruck-structuralism-and-myth-ritual-theory-in-1976-iamos-ion-article/ – main article. Shorter and related:
https://cyberdisciple.wordpress.com/2016/05/29/book-rush-j-ed-2013-entheogens-and-the-development-of-culture/ – Ruck section at end about Structuralism.
It never crossed my mind to use the word ‘cult’. My success was because of not using such overhead complications. “Cult” means to them, religiuos use that is not institutionalized, …
Why is my thinking not contaminated by all this confusion, though everyone in the field is thoroughly infected by this mental handicap?
Inferior entheogen scholars always use odd “singular” telltale: “the cult”, “the mushroom”, “the theory”.
15:00 –
McKenna exposes Wasson admitting that Amanita never worked for him. Was a disappointment, and does not support his theories at all. Just as I’ve said.
Theorists get hypnotized by their own ritual retelling of their tales every day. Repeat the narrative until you brainwashed yourself.
Letcher says he had to plaster Amanita pics on his book cover, bc that art sells books.
19:00 – what narrative is Letcher, Allegro, Wasson, McKenna, Ruck narrative?
The Bernward Debacle for Letcher and the Field
This field is not about psychedelics.
The degnerate field of entheogen scholarship is all about Secrecy; entheogens = Secrecy.
Let’s just discard entheogens, and like Letcher, debate & reason & argue only in terms of Secrecy.
Was Secrecy, or was secrecy not? That’s the debate, to them – it’s not a debate about entheogens.
Bad entheogen scholars reason based on Secrecy, not based on Mushrooms.
28:00 – Irvin in THM 2008 had to go out of his way to tell ppl to drop the Secrecy component.
Conflation of Secrecy Has Been Conflated with Entheogens
Entheogens and secrecy have been disastrously conflated.
The worst Letcher arg’n ever.
Critical Analysis, argumentation about Bernward doors, a broad-ranging correction of the field of entheogen scholarship , is found here in Letcher’s mistreatment of Bernward door:
The world is divided; Letcher imagines that both debaters agree the way the world is structured/ divided: a perpetual battle between psychedelic underground vs. mainstream institutional Prohibitionists.
This is taken as the permanent state of reality; how reality divides.
Letcher, Hatsis, Huggins, and I criticize the field of entheogen scholarship — there’s too much junk clogging the field, at odds purposes – what are we trying to accomplish? Effective Repeal?
The field of entheogen scholarship is overrun by a shared presupposition that the main way the world is structured is divided as an opposition between TWO GROUPS OF People: mainstream institutional prohibitionists; the counterculture underground cult.
Was there transcendent experiences
Everyone is weaving sky castles and then getting lost in them.
“Amanita = Europe; Psilocybin = Americas”.
History = drama tale of battle/ opposition/ division between mainstream institutional prohibitionists vs. the counterculture underground cult.
Do not use concept of “counterculture”, or “mainstream”, or combination.
underground counterculture cult heretical sects
These narratives are fake, not real.
Throw Your Drama Social Narratives in the Trash Can, you don’t care about the chemical effects. Two opposed social groups, is your presupposition.
What narratives are entheogen scholars pushing?
The Master Shared Paradigm: Dividing the World, as “Secret Amanita vs. Mainstream Prohibition”
25:00 – Ruck is interested in Secret, not Amanita; Amanita is merely a means to the end, of Secret.
therefore Bernward Door can’t have them inserted secretly, therefore, not mushrooms
John Rush 2nd Ed, back of book: contradictory two narratives.
Make 3 assertions, but then give a general narrative that contradicts those 3 detailed assertions.
the narrative completely contradicts the specifics. “Church got rid of entheogens. AND, evidence A, B, & C of mushrooms in the Church.”
20:00 –
21:00 – Letcher book Shroom is pretty good if keep track of who he is critiquing: Letcher criticizes Wasson re: point X.
Letcher criticizes Allegro re: point X.
Letcher criticizes Ruck re: point X.
Letcher criticizes McKenna re: point X.
Letcher criticizes general theory of Christianity history entheogens use.
McKenna criticizes Wasson re: point X.
McKenna criticizes Allegro re: point X. McKenna criticizes Ruck[?] re: point X. check index of Food of the Gods for “Ruck”: nothing! A good Biblio, lots of entries, well-read – yet no Ruck!
In mid-2023, it was great to re-read the books & articles while keeping track of the above distinctions.
25:00 – Why does everyone but me TALK WEIRD? I have a domain-appropriate conceptual vocabulary.
30:00 –
35:00 –
40:00 –
45:00 – Letcher’s book Shroom rebuts 5 theories:
- Wasson’s scenario – on p. __, Letcher specifically rebuts Allegro’s version of the “secret Amanita cult” theory. A single Amanita cult spread from Ural mountains from a single cult. John Lash dislikes this theory, despite being an extreme fanboi of Wasson; Lash accepts some nauseatingly broad conception of “the Wasson theory” (any ideas of entheogens ever, by anyone — and its opposite — comes from Wasson and belongs to Wasson – including “theories that are a considerable departure from Wasson’s theory”), yet Lash totally dismisses this as “Wasson’s specific theory”.
- Allegro’s scenario – on p. __, Letcher specifically rebuts Allegro’s version of the “secret Amanita cult” theory.
- Ruck’s scenario – on p. __, Letcher specifically rebuts Ruck’s version of the “secret Amanita cult” theory.
- McKenna’s scenario – on p. __, Letcher specifically rebuts McKenna’s version of the “secret Amanita cult” theory.
- The General Theory abstracted from those four authors: on p. __, Letcher generally rebuts a generalized version of the “secret Amanita cult” theory.
What is the narrative from SMC Allegro, about … Even Allegro covers psilocybin. Schoarlship shifted: 1952 Panof, 1957 Russia Wasson book, 1968 SOMA, 1970 Allegro. By 1970, in Europe context, theorizing was still exclusively in terms of Amanita in Europe, never Psilocybin mushrooms. EUROPE MUSHROOM = AMANITA.
— until Samorini 1996-1997-1998, put equial emph on Psil & Aman.
48:00 – What is Wasson’s narrative about the relation of the spread of “the secret Amanita cult”, to get to his America tradition of Psilocybin?
Read McKenna 1992 FotG critqiue of Wasson
Read Lash’s critique of “Wasson’s specific theory” (ie Amanita cult spread), which Lash rejects and dislikes/resents.
50:00 – Wasson had relations with a woman in U.S., who reported that the Secret Amanita Cult spread from the Ural mountains to the U.S. Letcher, and maybe everyone, ridicules this theory – and act like they’ve disproved as the same thing, mushrooms in Europe Christianity history, conflating that most-general scenario with Wasson’s narrowest scenario.
That forms a Motte-and-Bailey fallacy:
The worthless Motte, easy to defend, is rejection of the “secret Amanita cult” spread theory. Any scholar can easily reject the theory of spread of a secret Amanita cult.
The wished-to-defend Bailey is rejection of the entire idea of Europe Christianity history use of mushrooms. No one is able to make a credible rejection of all mushroom use in Europe Christianity history; Deniers are forced to use logical fallacies.
53:38 – end
The Right foot of lion in “Saint Eustace Crossing the River”, the lion’s Right paw/foot was touching the branching tree of the YI Cubensis tree pair — isn’t that bad? The non-branching Cube tree on the right is good, and the branching Cube tree on the left is bad?
Errata for Part A
No silence at end; abrupt end in mid-sentence.
Part B: “Ep263b Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 57:17
0:00 –
2:00 – everyone agrees cow is holy bc psilocybin. Those entheogen scholars however, never assert the absurd “there are no cubensis on cow dung in England” – who is willing to think and assert that? No one has thought to look into it.
In Great Canterbury Psalter f134 Row 2 Right, I didn’t think to look at the mushroom dispensary bin; I assumed it was wheat, and never looked at it, for years while studying the picture.
5:00 Ep263b – Deceptive folk tale factoid “no Cubensis in Europe/England”. Everyone just knows this, no one dare say such nonsense directly.
McKenna wrote in Food of the Gods, nobody can figure out why there’s no Psilocybin mushroom in Europe, but there’s tons and tons of Secret Amanita Cult there.
That’s because it’s bullshitical nonsense!
Folk tales of the entheogen scholars – as Letcher Hatsis Huggins himself exclaims and battles against.
SCIENCE IS WAY OVERESTIMATED; WE DON’T KNOW SHIITE; WE DON’T HAVE ANY CONCLUSIONS ABOUT ANYTHING; the field of entheogen scholarship is way overconfident about “what everyone knows”.
Everyone is wrong about everything.
Didn’t you get the memo? Our Tradition Is 3rd-Rate, Secret Amanita 🤫🍄
10:00 Ep263b – a spread of an ancient underground Secret Amanita cult
Faddish Thinking, Unthinking Meme Hosts
12:00 Ep263b – entheogen scholars, confabulators of history, what the hell does your word “cult” supposed to mean? What am I expected to picture?
wtf are you talking about so confidently?
What are you employing obsessed by this word “cult”, or “counterculture”, or “underground” in the same manner as you employ “cult”.
All of these hypothetical confabulated constructions, and Letcher employs same terms, “cult”, socially shared abstractions that everybody other than me seems to be in on this shared, common lexicon.
My expl: You are all watching tv and hypnozing each other, and left out of your guyses confusion. “cult”??
You are all spreading memes to each other, free-floating baseless conceptual constructs.
You’re all hypnotizing each other drifting off in a circle lost,
The “Social Conflict” Paradigm of Entheogen Scholarship
18:00 Ep263b –
Telling your stock, fabricated construct stories, folk tale narratives of the entheogen scholars: “secret cult tradition mainstream counterculture underground” – ALL IRRELEVANT. The less used, the better the vision.
Presentism, literalist OSC-based reading.
Read Letcher’s critique of “cultural evolution” in Shroom
Letcher’s critique of : Allegro & especially Wasson employed an already outdated academic construct called “cultural evolution” – read Shroom re: that term.
18:00 Ep263b – writing thousands of books by all exoteric thinkers, all sharing a massive category error, the Genre Question: historical reportage? or description of psychedelic eternalism in terms of …. entheogen scholarship is driven by a paradigm of “social conflict”
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54:00 Ep263b – Is Ruck asserting that Amanita is the engine of mixed wine mystery religion initiation? Mixed messages between his splattering Amanitas all over their book covers.
All authors are confused about what they are asserting: often they sell the narrative VERY forcefully, many examples Rutajit “Amanita is the most powerful thing EVAR” (no credibility).
Ruck: “They used Amanita. Or any junk they could get ahold of.”
What is your story? Conflicting narratives.
Book covers have extreme narrative pushing Amanita The Secret Magic Holy Sacred Mushroom:
King of the Entheogens for Exoteric Esotericists 🙌 👑🍄🤫
1:00:00 Ep263b –
A social drama narrative is the only thing the Secret Amanita entheogen scholars care about – not Psychedelics or Repeal of Prohibition.
Social fantasy words (“secret”, “heretical sects”) prevent comprehending sheer presence of Psilocybin in W Culture; Christian history, Christendom.
37:00 Ep263b – Where does Letcher present his 4-part arg? In Comments at bottom of his webpage http://andy-letcher.blogspot.com/2016/06/shroom-ten-years-on.html — in that comment, he is refuting my Review of his book Shroom. See: https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2023/05/28/shroom-a-cultural-history-of-the-magic-mushroom-letcher-2006-uk/#The-4-Part-Letcher-Argument
Letcher Hatsis Huggins is correct that Pop theory of Secret Amanita needs to be disproved. That is NOT the same thing as disproving or addressing the distinct position/theory, Explicit Cubensis, per Samorini 1997, Michael Hoffman 2002, Browns 2016. which is a different, better version of the “mushrooms in Christian art” theory.
The “mushrooms in Christian art” theory.
Secret Amanita theory – cult, spread, Wasson, rejected by John Lash as “Wasson’s specific theory”.
Explicit Cubensis theory
Debunking of the mere Secret Amanita theory pretends to be debunking of the “mushrooms in Christian art” theory. They are not the same – narrow vs general. A different narrow/specific version of the mushroom in Christian art theory is Explicit Cubensis, which has NOT been addressed by the pop-trash-level “debunkers” – cheap Letcher, cheap Hatsis, cheap Huggins.
Trash-Huggins arg’n covers up Wasson’s ACADEMIC FRAUD CENSORSHIP. TAKE Takeaway: Deniers have to stoop to deception, censorship, and deviant academic method “The ignorant mycologists ought to have reached out to consult competent art historians” — instead of the proper, COUGH UP THE DAMN CITATIONS/PILZBAUM ELECTROSTATS FROM PANOFSKY, WASSON! the Father of Obstructing European Ethnomycology.
Which narrative are you guys (Secret Amanita tale-tellers) pushing:
- The Mainstream Prohibitionists oppressed the Psychedelic Heretics
- The Elite oppressed the Lay and withheld the secret Amanita from the oppressed lay masses (AstroSham 2006, Ruck: Effluents of Deity 2012)
Lash is a Psilo guy. He’s against Wasson’s Secret Amanita story-tale fairytale narrative fantasy. Lash is a debunker of Secret Amanita – and an advocate of Explicit Cubensis (article “Discovery of a Lifetime”; series of 5+3 articles).
Does Lash employ the “secret” or “suppression” concepts/ would-be explanatory constructs? How well does Lash fit my Explicit Cubensis paradigm?
the Secret Amanita paradigm [SAP]
the Explicit Cubensis paradigm [ECP]
“ForagedWild wrote review: 1 of 5 stars – Where is the DVD? Reviewed July 12, 2023 – I really like the book but it was shipped without the DVD. It’s an integral piece of this work. I wish I would have read the book when I bought it, but never got around to it until over a year later, only to notice that it’s missing the DVD, like other reviewers have mentioned. Really sucks to spend this much on a book and DVD, only to get half your order.”
Brown 2019 article wrote “Ruck book has no gallery of images”. I wrote recently: Isn’t this an other Brown mistake? Book’s blurb says “DVD”, isn’t that gallery? Answer: There’s no DVD, despite the blurb. d/k if I own this book.
27:00 – End the field of “entheogen scholarship” which is actually secret entheogen scholarship. –as Irvin and I discussed 2006 and Irvin wrote 2008 in THM: we must separate, not conflate, the question of secret usage vs sheer usage.
Stop welding together the “secrecy” idea & the entheogens idea. Stop studying history of “secret use of entheogens”; just study the history of “use of entheogens”.
Don’t leverage the word “secret”, “cult”, “heretical sects”, “mainstream” or “counterculture”. per the Secret Amanita paradigm (two versions:
- The mainstream Prohibitionists elites suppressed heretical psychedelics underground “groups”.
- Voiced by Ruck 2001a & b: article Conjuring Eden in Entheos Issue 1, “Daturas for the Virgin” in Entheos Issue 2 2001.
- secret elites withheld psychedelics, suppressing the non-psychedelic lay masses.
- Voiced by Irvin AstroSham 2006, Ruck Effluents of Deity 2012.
40:00 Ep263b – critique of Dittrich’s dimension name, “Dread of Ego Dissolution” [DED], “Angst of Ego Dissolution” [AED]. “ego dissolution” too vague. not helpful. not false, but not helpful. Engineering communication can do better. Highly inadequate. “Psilocybin dissolves the ego boundary.” vague crude folk theory. inadequate, not helpful.
“Pscilobyin dissolves the ego boundary; resisting causes bad trip; Surrender”
That’s Not Wrong, But it’s not helpful/ useful.
Your Theory Sucks, Because Your Theory is not useful; it’s Not Helpful; Not Relevant
Ep263b
You have only merely begun explaining the dynamics.
The Reference effects are ergot & Psilocybin. What I say about Liquid or Psilocybin is same.
PSILOCYBIN SUGAR CUBE
43:30 Ep263b – What is the cognitive effect of Psilocybin? Evidence reports from 1000 AD to 2023 now, here is the cognitive effect of psil: causes STAND ON RIGHT FOOT.
Psilocybin loosens cognition; loose mental construct processing;
Loose Cog makes you explore the threat of control loss that drives mental model transformation from possibilism to eternalism
from:
analogical psychedelic eternalism with dependent control
to:
literalist ordinary-state possibilism with autonomous control
Christopher Partridge’s Gap-Filled False History of Contemporary Psychedelics, Criticized by Hanegraaff & Cybermonk
45:00 Ep263b – awful eliminative periodization – Wouter Hanegraaff criticizes C Partridge’s bad periodization regurgitating propaganda.
Hane’s list of things CP omitted; my list of same.
per CP, there was ONLY sugar cubes in 1967, then no psychedelics.
Then blotter in 1975, then no psychedelics.
Then 1990s, MDMA. then nothing.
Then the next pop peak trend according to such story telling. and then no one uses psychedelics.
That’s Modern Psychedelics History according to the Moderate/Minimal Entheogen Theory of Religion.
Skip, skip, skip psychedelic newage,
skip 1970s/1980s Psychedelic Shamanism;
skip the blotter Rock Lyrics 1964-1994, 30 years of blotter-powered and sugar-cube powered lyrics describing the loose cog eternalism state. non-branching eternalism state with 2-level, dependent control.
The completed perfected initiate is made non-dying, athanatos, able to enter through the loose cog gate and retain viable personal control as virtual-only agent, locus of intention and effort and will and steering.
Able to move yourself through virtual branching eternalism steering of control, while known virtual-only;
Dependent control, uncontrollable thought-injector, fountain of control-thoughts in the frozen rock cave
You get used to it, learn Balance, learn to HAVE egoic thinking and USE that, but in an adult mature way, a transcendent thinking way.
Per early Ken Wilber, “you” differentiate “yourself” from lower thinking, the egoic control system.
You continue to effectively USE child thinking but not “rely” ultimately on that; rely on the true actual upstream Source of control.
The ‘Source’ is a Hanegraaff word in his 2022 psychedelic hermetism book.
The uncontrollable Source of control thoughts perceived in the loose-cog Heimarmene experiential state.
Hermetic Spirituality and the Historical Imagination: Altered States of Knowledge in Late Antiquity
Wouter Hanegraaff
washed in the uncontrollable Fountain of thoughts flowing from the non-branching tree.
Philosophers Beside the Tree – Splendor Solis
3 versions of S. S. – I COULD DO BETTER.
MOAR MUSHROOM,
MOAR CUT RIGHT BRANCH,
MOAR WEIGHT-ON-RIGHT-FOOT
[Dec 3 2024 8:30 pm seems deeper water river grokking] Washed in the fountain at river from king tree trunk crowned.
Solve branching puzzle, get dragon, penetrate shell of eternalism heimarmene snake-bounded cosmic rock egg Amanita egg form stage
Ruck’s Mithras article in Entheos 3, 2002.
Mithras born from Ulansey’s cosmic rock bounded by zodiac star groups penetrated by Mithras,
Mithras is born from Amanita in egg stage form = cosmic heimarmene Rock = heimarmene snake frozen in rock / bounding the cosmic rock bounded by zodiac/ celestial sphere; penetrate that, SALVATION, CLEANSING, HEALING, WASHED CLEAN.
AstroSham 2006
Ep263b
Bottom has washing pool bath
Mushrooms at Feet
Hanging on Cut Right Branch, Statuary Pool Gate
Ep263b
the whole thing is a gateway [9:07 pm Dec 3 2024] – in this version, gate is close to viewer, before bath; other versions, the gate is the back wall, for less effect.
Observed the gate imagery in that version after thinking about:
statue women rulers washed to marble statuary
moving statue authorized rulers in conformity with eternalism loose cog psychedelic eternalism control restabilization.
authorized rulers in conformity with eternalism loose cog psychedelic eternalism control restabilization
eternalism loose cog psychedelic eternalism control restabilization
loose cog eternalism
psychedelic eternalism
control restabilization based on eternalism
control restabilization based on loose-cognitive psychedelic eternalism
The Uncontrollable Fountain of Control-Thoughts
Ep263b
Thoughts Washing Personal Control Clean and Healed in Right Controllership
the Psilocybin Teacher of Cybernetic Righteousness
Golden Teacher of Righteousness
eternalism loose cog psychedelic eternalism control restabilization
restabilizing control so as to become compatible with the Test State of Consciousness:
to test your cleanness of control thinking, restabilize personal control on the basis of non-branching, rather than branching. Affirm non-branching; rely on non-branching eternalism block universe frozen time heimarmene time timeless superdeterminism block Rock; marble snake sculpted on a marble zodiac rock with Mithras born forth and turning the zodiac aside, breaking heimarmene fatedness; and lifting Sol up in a psychedelic mad loosecog banquet. Trans-rational to control based on the fountain of thoughts
Quote
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Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city.
Rev 22:14
Crown = YOU ARE AN AUTHORIZED WASHED-CLEAN BY TREE RULER STEERSMAN CYBERNETICIST
PSYCHEDELIC CYBERNETICIST
ENLIGHTENED ABOUT CYBERNETICS IN THE LOOSE COG STATE – literally stand on right foot; stand on eternalism non-branching.
Stand Right Foot on Ground of Non-branching, to Keep Control; Left Foot on Ground of Branching Possibilities Causes Loss of Control
Ep263b
ETERNALISM CYBERNETICS
Rev 22:14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city.”
You end up with full ability to assert yourself – as authorized cleansed virtual ego agent, laboring every day under egoic control steering power, even if consciously virtual-only.
90% of psychedelics history is skipped by Chris Partridge.
A terrible job of doc’ing Pop Cult, in his book Contemp Esotericism.
More gaps than presences.
Only lists the alleged climaxes of pop sike usage.
As if when not a pop cult climax year, “psychedelics use doesn’t exist”. CP only gives a pop-level history of isolated peaks, not of ongoing trajectory. And he misses many of the peaks, that aren’t in the official Narrative of absence. Fails Hanegraaff criteria for science-based historiography; it’s narrative-based instead.
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Part C: “Ep263c Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 54:40
What exactly is Wasson asserting? The Wassons covered enths in our own cultural history” – in ancient India, WTF?? See my Plainc article at Egodeath.com.
No, Wasson, you actively covered UP European Psilocybin and Amanita use.
the Egodeath theory has no narrative component, just “there was a heyday of {mushrooms}, {branching}, {handedness}, and {stability} motifs 900-1300 AD.”
The Explicit Cubensis paradigm asserts the simple presence of entheogens use by Christians, not a narrative of constructing various Bad Guys vs. Good Guys cartoon crayon-drawn incoherent narrative of oppression, drawing/ constructing group boundary wall barriers. The storytelling done by historians, against Hanegraaff’s methodology he advocates, strict empiricism: WHAT DID THE AUTHOR MEAN FOR HIS AUDIENCE? Not telling our own tales projected onto history.
9:00 – p 211 , Reidlinger, The Sacred Mushroom Seeker (about Wasson) – R is against the word ‘entheogens’.
Dirty greedy broad vague terms used to confuse ppl: “sacred fungi” = ergot, psilocybin, & Amanita.
Confusing, used to mislead and deceive and glue together a broken model and hide the gaps/failures.
McKenna rejects the word ‘entheogens’ as freighted with theological baggage.
McKenna Food of the Gods puts down the word ‘entheogen’ b/c RELIGION IS BAD, per the oppressor/oppressed narrative.
14:50 ~ per mobile – funny caricature of their complicated social narrative sky castles, vs. my simple claim.
17:00 the bigger problem is “secret oppressed cult group” – not Amanita. Amanita appears to be the problem, but root problem is actually Secret, not Amanita.
Letcher’s 2006 book, Shroom, I immediately noticed in 2007, Letcher’s Bernward door argument – see my book review at Amazon U.S.
Letcher’s book Shroom was published in UK 2006 by Faber and Faber. I have the first printing in US, hardcover: 2007, HarperCollins.
25:00 Irvin THM falsely claims that Panofsky’s (1952) “hundreds of mushroom trees” were affirmed by Allegro.
In 1996-1998, Samorini finally followed that lead – not Allegro. I entered entheogen scholarship in 1999.
Samorini later mailed me his 1997 & 1998 articles, but illegible Brown-certified unreadable pictures.
Identify Explicitly the Position Stance Bias of Each Author
Lash is anti-Christianity, anti-Amanita, against Wasson’s “specific Amanita cult spread” theory, pro-Psilocybin. When he critiques pop theory the “secret Amanita cult” theory.
Wasson is protecting Christianity from mushrooms (Aman, also Psil);
Ruck is anti-Christianity, starts off w/ narrative of prohibitionist elites vs entheogenic heretic “sects”; later switches to narrative of entheogen-using elites withholding Secret Amanita from the lay masses (like Irvin AstroSham 2006).
Brown & I & Cyberdisciple are protecting Christianity with Psil (also Aman) mushrooms
35:00 Daturas Entheos 2 2001, Ruck & Gonzalez p. 56 – I read aloud, per Irvin’s critique on THM p. 104, the “Wasson’s Conclusion” passage.
49:00 – Wasson is quoted by Joan Hallifax, where in 1979, Wasson calls for repeal of Prohibition. Full uncensored quote. Probably from Reidlinger’s book The Sacred Mushroom Seeker.
50:00 – I accussed Ruck & the “secret Amanita cult” theory & the Amanita Primacy Fallacy, as they have never done ANYTHING to support repeal of Psilocybin Prohibition; too busy pushing their narrative of perpetual suppression / crybaby defeatism, self-inflicted.
54:00 – McKenna book Food of the Gods. Positions he argues for and against.
The Secret Amanita paradigm entheogen scholarship is all about re-telling their narrative of permanent inherent Prohibition by the mainstream, against the underground secret cult tradition counterculture sect community groups in eternal opposition against the mainstream Prohibitionists.
So don’t ever think of Repeal of our Prohibition narrative that we have married, constructed, & reified as our invested, our conflict of interest; our identity narrative – we would evaporate.
Part D: “Ep263d Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 1:00:42
This Part/segment ends by returning to the initial topic of recording the contiguous pair of tracks (a single 4-hour live voice recording session).
0:00 – Intro – “77 int-outro VOX_TK_5477”
0:21 – Content – “VOX_TK_5477”
10:00 “Cubensis grows on cowpies in subtropical regions” – FALSE, the latter qualifier.
Stamets’ Psilocybin mushroom of the world book fails to make his claim EXPLICITLY that allegedly Cubensis doesn’t grow on cowpies in Europe/England.
Entheogen scholarship is non-scientific.
This is how shoddy, worthless, wrong, prejudiced, biased, & confused entheogen scholarship is.
20:00 – Letcher’s book Shroom. Its contributions and limitations.
Social-driven narrative vs caring about Psychedelics effects.
The Pop audience focuses far more on social driven narrative, not Psychedelic effects.
My approach, in contrast – Letcher is incapable of imagining; my view is on a different planet:
Myth depicts Psil effects; Myth depicts the cognitive transformation effect from psilocybin; we have copious evidence proving how the mind works when exposed to Psil, and evidence for Psil effect in myth & religion.
I reject any use of “cult”, “secret”, “mainstream”, “suppressed”.
We have ample evidence for Psilocybin Eternalism in myth and in cultural history.
we have to reject the vocab (Feyerabend book?) a video about Feyer & phil o sci? Avoid vocab – by Eastern Europ guy about programming langs, and has examples from coding langs. sllides show why we cannot employ words from a previous paradigm/theory. We cannot use the lexicon from the old theory, bc that lex is laden w/ connotation network. We must use lexicon from new theory, to escape from old connot network/ meaning-network. Letcher Hatsis Huggins put forth a rejection that’s from within the lexicon of the Old Theory so I cannot Agree nor Disagree, with their way of thinking, for or against the Old Pop Theory (the Secret Amanita paradigm).
we are in incommensurable paradigm ie
Letcher’s position is Debunk Secret Amanita paradigm. = Letcher 2006; Hatsis 2013; Huggins 2024.
The Pop position is Secret Amanita paradigm eg .Wasson 1957, Allegro 1970, Ruck 1976, McKenna 1992, Irvin 2006, young Hatsis, John Rush 2011.
The v1 paradigm of entheogen scholarship is grotesquely mis-centered on a battle between prohibitionist mainstream vs. secret amanita counterculture.
My position is Explicit Cubensis paradigm. Samorini 1996; Hoffman 2002, Brown 2016.
Point not in recording: [Dec. 2, 2024 5:09 pm]: The 2001 “Conjuring Eden” article in Entheos Issue 1 conjoins the Secret Amanita paradigm & the Explicit Cubensis paradigm.
The article brings in Samorini 1998 article and his psilocybin evidence, and brings in Paul Lindgren’s 2000 Great Canterbury Psalter findings (f11).
By Issue 2 2001, Daturas article shrinks back down toward the the Secret Amanita paradigm.
Issue 1 broadens Amanita “the mushroom” to slightly include Psilocybin, in a merely minor, secondary, supporting role.
Issue 1 broadens Amanita “the mushroom” to slightly include Datura — instead of Psilocybin — in a merely minor, secondary, supporting role.
30:00 –
I said Psilocybin mushrooms are present in Christian history. I never asserted that “secret” mushrooms are present in Christian history.
40:00 –
Did Irvin have color pic of dancing man? in THM: yes, but Blue-to-Red shift; corrupted; Ruck said “has a red cap” to shut up the naysayers. HUGE Ruck mistake, discredited the Secret Amanita paradigm.
I agree with the Debunkers of the Secret Amanita paradigm re: denying that paradigm. I disagree w/ the Debunkers paradigm…. [the Secret Amanita paradigm [DSAP]
the Secret Amanita paradigm [SAP] – Huggins’ acro: PMTs = psychedelic mushrooms in Christian art theorists. Notice the lack of “secret” in his acronym — that’s the Motte and Bailey fallacy. Huggins actually argues against the Secret Amanita paradigm
Huggins doesn’t argue against PMTs; he argues against Secret Amanita in Christian art theorists [SATs].
psychedelic mushroom theorists
Secret Amanita theorists
debunkers of the Secret Amanita paradigm [DSAP]
Secret Amanita debunkers [SADs]
the Explicit Cubensis paradigm [ECP]
48:00 – Hatsis is stuck within Allegro paradigm. Letcher is broader.
Secret Amanita debunkers are unprepared to debate the Explicit Cubensis paradigm ie Samorini, Brown, Hoffman, Cyberdisciple.
“Hoffman” in this topic = Michael Hoffman unless specify Mark Hoffman.
Usually, I can say “Ruck” instead of “Mark Hoffman”.
Mark Hoffman is to blame for the tauroctony art corruption on the cover of Entheos Issue 3 (Blue to Red shift & image flipped to the non-initiate’s below-fixed-stars POV).
50:00 – Letcher: Incommensurable paradigm re: my the Explicit Cubensis paradigm/ the maximal entheogen theory of religion. See notes above.
52:13 – I am happy to:
- Find evidence for psychedelic eternalism.
Not for finding/ constructing/ confabulating a social boundary between: - Oppressor vs. Oppressed.
- Mainstream Prohibitionists vs. Counterculture psychedelic heretics.
Ruck p. 14 “Conjuring Eden” 2001; p 56 Daturas Virgin” 2001. - Elite secret holders vs. clueless poor oppressed masses of ordinary Christians.
Ruck: Effluents of Deity 2012; Irvin AstroSham 2006.
eg I am happy to find that St Eustace, Right paw touches the good, Right-hand branch of the branching mushroom tree on the left.
When Scope = the branching Cubensis tree + the non-branching Cubensis tree, the entire L tree is “bad”.
When Scope = the Left, branching tree, the Right part of that tree is Good/ Non-branching/ Stable; the left part of the Left tree is Bad/ Branching/ Unstable.
59:00 – Oppressor vs. oppressed; therefore pilzbaum are not mushrooms.
Letcher is an incommensurable paradigm that’s alien to the Egodeath theory./end of Content
59:56 – Outro – “77 outro VOX_TK_5477”
May 23, 2023. Voice, not guitar.
1:00:18 – 0:24 seconds of guitar. “77G outro VOX_TK_5477”
1:00:42 – end
Part G: “Ep263G Lions Paw Eustace 🌳🐾🦁👼🤚.mp3”, len 5:06
Two parts; first half says “Egodeath Mystery Show”, while guitar.
Source Recordings
5476.wav
VOX_TK_5476.wav – 3:22:00+.
guitar at start. Intro. May 23, 2023.
What am I up to: details wanted: St Eustace
In a posting, I noted about this rec’g. todo: produce 5476.wav per post/page “Corruption of Art”.
5477.wav
VOX_TK_5477.wav – 1:15:00 (con’t seamlessly from 5476):
Looking for comparison of my paradigm vs. others’.
Lacking the usual assumed resistance.
Amanita primacy fallacy will collapse if no Prohibition.
Wasson paradigm calling for full Repeal, p 132 in The Sacred Msh Seeker 1990/1997.
See Also
Corruption of Art
The Corruption of Art by Entheogen Scholars
https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2023/05/25/the-corruption-of-art-by-entheogen-scholars/ – May 25, 2023 per url (could be May 24 my time zone) – mentions production needed on this conjoined 4-hour pair of .wav source rec’gs made on May 23, 2023.
The Egodeath theory 