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Contents:
- Incoming Ideas – updated March 18, 2025 [125 sheets]
- Bait-and-Switch, Shifting Redefinition of ‘Perennialism‘ to Trick You into Agreeing to Anything
- Rise of the Arrogant Psychonaut (Houot 2025)
- Opposites: Quantum Mysticism vs. 4D Mysticism
- Opposites: Quantum Mysticism vs. 4D Spacetime Mysticism
- Quantum Branching Many-Worlds Mysticism vs. 4D Non-Branching Spacetime Mysticism
- OMG Wiki page exists for “Quantum Mysticism”! But Where’s My Page on 4D Spacetime Mysticism??
- Wiki: Superdeterminism
- Wiki: Spacetime
- Black Sabbath: Shockwave lyrics
- 🦄💨🌈 😊👍
🤯😵🐍 - The Overlooked, Forgotten, Original Version of Physics Mysticism (Eternalism-Based): 4D Spacetime Mysticism
- Quantum Branching Mysticism vs. 4D Non-Branching Mysticism
- Quantum (Branching) Mysticism vs. 4D (Non-Branching) Mysticism
- Nice! 😊👍🏆
- The Many-Worlds Interpretation (Ego Inflation Times Infinity): “Time as a Many-Branched Tree”
- Quantum (Possibilism) Mysticism vs. 4D (Eternalism) Mysticism
- Branching Mysticism vs. Non-Branching Mysticism
- Wiki: “Block Universe” redir’s to Eternalism (philosophy of time)
- Quantum Mysticism vs. 4D Mysticism
- Hippie Quantum Mysticism Books
- New concept-label: New lexicon term: 4D Spacetime Mysticism; 4D Mysticism (vs. Quantum Mysticism); or “Spacetime Mysticism”?
- Lexicon Design: Pairs of Opposite Terms: the Secret Amanita paradigm, the Explicit Psilocybin paradigm
- Antonym terms: free will vs. determinism; possibilism vs. eternalism
- Opposites: Quantum Mysticism vs. 4D Mysticism [2]
- {rock} vs. “iron”
- List of All Key Terms for Possibilism vs Eternalism: The Two Opposite Brands of Physics Mysticism
- All Key Terms, Grouped, for 4D Mysticism vs. Quantum Mysticism
- Brand 1: 4D Mysticism (All Associated Terms)
- Brand 2: Quantum Mysticism (All Associated Terms)
- Labels for Quantum Mysticism vs. 4D Mysticism
- The Forgotten, Original Version of Physics Mysticism: 4D Block Time, Flatland, 1875 – “Iron Block View” Is a Misnomer for “Domino-Chain Determinism Causality”
- The future is “closed” in two very different senses (for different reasons/ due to different mechanisms) in block-universe determinism vs. block-universe eternalism
- Incoherent “Open-Future Domino-chain determinism”, says the future does not exist and is ‘open’ in that sense – but 4D says the future exists
- Determinism = Domino-Chain Causality; Eternalism = 4D Block Causality
- My Driving Motivation Now: Give Cognitive Scientists a Useful Scientific Explanatory Model to Equip Them to Explore and Research Psilocybin Transformation
- Can’t Redefine ‘Determinism’ as Eternalism, though the “free will vs. determinism” debate ~= possibilism vs. eternalism
- Lying Academic Liars Require No Substantiation for Their Claim “Many Non-Drug Methods Can Produce Psilocybin Effects” — But No Amount of Evidence Suffices, for Mushrooms in Christian Art
- 🎓🤥👖🔥🤞–>🤑💰
- The Egodeath Theory Gives You Split-Level Compatibilism; You End Up with Both Possibilism-Thinking & Eternalism-Thinking
- The Ultimate Paradigm of Science: The Theory of Psychedelic Eternalism
- Science Is Nothing, if not an Explanation of Psychedelic Eternalism
- The Egodeath Theory Is the Highest Achievement of STEM
- My Current Driving Mission & Central Target Audience/ User Persona: Equip Cognitive Scientists for the Psilocybin State
- History of my previous driving motivations
- Finally found color of Lucas Cranach “Eve Tempted by the Serpent” from Campbell Power of Myth! Adam and Eve 1533 “Adam und Eva”
- Confirmed Minkowski Spacetime Is Emphatically Principled Eternalism – “Absolute 4D Spacetime”, future exists, all times exist, flow of time is illusion
- Per Kafei, 5 g Golden Teacher Is Not High-Dose; 12.5 g Is High Dose
- 5g Dried Cubensis ~= 200 ug Blotter
- 500 ug Blotter (high dose) ~= 12.5 g dried cubensis
- Converting Blotter Dosage to Cubensis Dosage
- The Egodeath Theory Replaces Perennialism, which Is Confusion and a Failure
- Matthew Johnson’s Ethics Violations Complaints Filed Against His Hopkins Team Blocking the 2016 Religious Professionals Study
- Moving Past Mysticism AND Materialism: Psychedelic Eternalism
- “Salvation” = “Save me from Heimarmene” & “Save me from Control Instability” yet Still Give Me Full Grasp and Satisfaction of Demonstrating Non-control/ the Vulnerability that Gives New Life
- Proof/Further Corroboration of my 2001 post saying “Quantum Mysticism = branching freewill model; block-universe determinism = non-branching, no-free-will model”
- King/Sage in Bed = Wood Lover’s Paralysis
- Magic Is the Opposite of Mysticism
- Stace 1960 = Fool.Studerus 2011 = Fool.Psychedelic Science from Griftiths = Fool — b/c with a straight face, these publications cite Stace 1960 as the Foundation of their “Science” (even though OAV 1994 got it right)
- Academic Philosophy Dept. Chris Letheby to the rescue (got up late after dorm room trip), offering his bunk buffet of 8 brands of irrelevant materialism or irrelevant mystic fantasy
- How to Train Your Dragon: Ignore 18 of 21 Teeth
- Ruck Committee: The “Secret” Tail Wags the Psychedelics Dog, as Letcher Attacked Successfully and Efficiently
- Psychedelic History Must Be Driven by Psychedelics, Not by “Secret”
- Psychedelic History Must Be Driven by Psilocybin, not by Amanita
- Psychedelic History Must Be Driven by Concern with Psychedelics, No Longer Driven by Concern with “Secret”
- Psychedelic History must be Driven by Psychedelics, not Driven by the “Secret, Suppression” Social Drama Narrative that Letcher Rightly Holds up for Ridicule
- Ruck Has It Exactly Backwards, and as a Result, Was Disproved; Discard 1st-Gen Entheogen Scholarship & Salvage from Its Post-Letcher Wreckage
- Psychedelic History must be Driven by Psychedelics, not Driven by the “Secret, Suppression” Social Drama Narrative that Letcher Rightly Holds up for Ridicule
- Carl Accomodate Prohibition Ruck
- Psychedelic Pseudo Science Cannot Publish their 2016 Religious Professionals Study
- Neutered Psychedelic “Science” = Do Not Color Outside the Lines of Stace 1960 “Positive-Balanced” Model of “mystical experience” [Beware of Dragon, gate guard]
- Hopkins’ De-Psychedelicized Psychedelic Science
- The Fool’s Ballad of psychedelic pseudo science: Stace the Clown
- 100% Ridicule of Walter Stace BUNK Model of “mystical experience”; Stace the Clown = “Psychedelic Science“
- God Help Me; Save Me; Heaven Forfend = I Beg to Avert the Profound Attractive Threat that I Cannot Avoid Seeing
- Recipe for Transcendent Knowledge: Immerse Mental model in threat potential of {fire} {blade} for 12 Hours or Until Completion of Initiation and {Phoenix} is produced
- Announcing the MEQ0 — Perfection Has Been Reached, the Perfect Questionnaire: Shut Up and Have a Mystical Experience[TM] per Stace “Positive-Balanced” Mysticism Model
- Bicycle Ride from Heaven
- Symptom: Enthusiasm. Prescription: Sedate
- 😄🔬🔍🧐🤨💉
- The Foundation of Our Safety-First Psychedelic Science: The “Unicorns Farting Rainbows” Model of Mystical Experience – approved by Hopkins Marketing Dept.
- Meanwhile, Ethics Violations Complaints from Matthew “Lose the Buddha Statue AND I AM NOT CLOWNING!” Johnson
- Trouble in Psychedelic Pseudoscienceland
- Motifs Yet to Inventory in Great Canterbury Psalter: {bed}
- Miking Notes: Mic Change: From Center Mic e-v 653A “omni” ie no proxy mud, to Shure SM57
- 4 Answers for Social Drama Narrative of 1st-Gen Entheogen Scholarship: Who Was Fantasy Amanita Restricted To? Heretical Sects; 1-2 Initiates; 1-2 Elites; All Elites
- My Theorizing Routinely Integrates Psilocybin Transformation, Like Ruck’s Myth Textbook Routinely Integrates Entheogens
- My Use of Key Terms Notation & Acronyms for Concept-Labels, Like Ruck’s Myth Textbook Uses KEY-TERM Notation
- Key Dispute: Does Psilocybin Transform Mainly from Possibilism to Eternalism, or Mainly from Eternalism to Possibilism?
- Beyond Fixed Stars (Level 8) is Precession of Equinoxes (Level 9) & Trepidation of Precession (Level 10) – Finally a Useful Mapping of 2 or 3 Levels Above Heimarmene (Fixed Stars)
- Sphere 8 = Fixed Stars = Heimarmene/ Fate/ Eternalism/ No-Free-Will; Enslaved, Prison, Puppet, Helpless
- Sphere 9 = Precession of Equinoxes = transcendent freewill = transcend Fate = outside of eternalism [yay! perfect fit! solved/ confirmed!]
- My Defining 2- AND 3-Level Models is like mystic cosmos models that have variable # of spheres 7-11
- How Hanegraaff Reached the Misunderstanding “Psilocybin Transformation Is from Eternalism to Possibilism”
- 150 AD: Join Our Religion, Which Gives Transformation from Eternalism to Possibilism* (*sort of, a little, figuratively speaking, in a way)
- The Waffling “Precession” or “Trepidation” of Models of Psilocybin Transformation Over the Eras, Flipping Back and Forth Between “Destination = Heimarmene” vs. “Destination = Transcendent Possibilism”
- Waffling Cosmologies About Whether the Highest Destination Level that Psilocybin Transformation Gives You Is Moving or Non-Moving
- Early Antiquity Model: Focus on Non-Moving Fixed Stars as Final State
- Late Antiquity Model: Focus on Moving Precession as Final State (per Mithraism)
- Renaissance Model: Focus on Non-Moving Empyrean as Final State
- Task: Assign “Prime Mover” Sphere to Level 9 or 10 in Best [= most clarifying explanatory analogy] General Model of astral ascent mysticism
- Sphere 10 = Trepidation of Precession = Further Transcendence of Eternalism ~= Prime Mover Sphere, or Empyrean of the Elect
- Sphere 11 = Empyrean = Dwelling Place of God and Elect; Outside of Transcending Eternalism = Transcendent Possibilism = the Changing Obliquity of the Ecliptic (obviously) 🤷♂️
- In 2005, Erik Davis and I Were Both Fumbling Between 2-Level vs. 3-Level Model: Enlightenment = Determinism vs. Transcending Determinism
- Level 0 Earth = 100% Possibilism
Levels 1-7 Moon-Saturn = Increasing Eternalism
Level 8 Fixed Stars = 100% Eternalism
Level 9 Empyrean = Transcend Eternalism - How Sophisticated 3-Level Transcending of Heimarmene Became Decadent Failure to Transcend or Have Psilocybin Transformation or Comprehend Myth-Analogy at All
- The proper use of astral ascent mysticism as analogy to explain and clarify the actual mental trajectory of Psilocybin initiation stages
- Another Good Voice Recording in the Series – “Perception of Eternalism” Entry in Effects Index, Josie Kins
Contents about Fontaine:
- T. Fontaine
- The Reveries (thereveries.org) – Eleusinian Mysteries
- Book about Reintroducing Psychedelics in Western Religion (Fontaine 2025), & TheReveries.org (Email from Fontaine May 4, 2025)
- Eleusis = 2-level Revere Heimarmene; Mithraism = 3-level Transcend Heimarmene (Email 1 to Fontaine May 5, 2025)
- In 150 AD, Eleusis Added “Transcend Eternalism” Theme (Email 2 to Fontaine May 5, 2025)
- March 6, 2025 email from T. Fontaine
- The Main Source of Evidence Is Commitment to There Being Evidence
- Are Neopagans Focused on the Problem of Transcending Fatedness/ No-free-will/ Determinism/ Heimarmene/ Eternalism/ the Snake-Wrapped Iron Rock Block Universe? (3rd email to Fontaine)
Contents con’t:
- Read Updated Final Version of idea development page 24 (has content through Feb. 2028)
- Confirmed First Use of “branching-message mushroom trees” March 21, 2022
- Mature Egoic Thinking = {beard}
- {altar at guarded gate temple entryway sacrifice, cleaned curtains}, {sacrificial altar = fire blade rock wood-branches}
- Sacrifice of Isaac (Canterbury Psalter)
- Sacrifice of Isaac (Golden Psalter)
- Sacrifice of Isaac (Van der Borch): Branches on Rock Altar with Blade and Child
- New Art
- Motivation for this page
- Declaration of Independence of MICA Affirmers from Ignorant Art Authorities Who Earn Disrespect by Publishing Nothing
- {turn right, look up, look behind you, while blade the sacrifice child / animal; Isaac | bull | ram}
- {maturation} from {child} to {adult}
- Change of Deceptive Marketing of Egodeath: Sell People Freewill Power, Hide the No-free-will Fine Print
- 🤥👖🔥🤞->🤑💰
- Transcendent Knowledge Doesn’t Give You Eternalism; It Gives You Possibilism-Power*
- Cleaned Dirtiness; Forgiven Sin that Continues, no longer Considered Your Real Foundation/ Source of Control
- Houot at Church Book Club: Rise of the Psychonaut
- Recent Posts 2025/01/28-2025/02/24
Incoming Ideas
Bait-and-Switch, Shifting Redefinition of ‘Perennialism‘ to Trick You into Agreeing to Anything
Cybermonk, March 18, 2025
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perennial_philosophy#Criticism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalism_(perennialism)
You agree that all religions have some overlap of mystical experience, right? Of course, I know you do.
I’m so glad you’re on board with the Egodeath theory, which holds that Perennialism is a union experience for the purpose of spiritual and political liberation of humanity, with me as benevolent dictator.
The Egodeath Theory, Which Is “Common Core Mystical Perennialism“, Which You Agreed to, Will Save the World, with Me as Universe Dictator
The Egodeath theory’s Definition of ‘Perennialism’ to Enslave Mankind to Do My Bidding
Baggage Claim 🛬
No baggage is attached by my shifting definition of ‘perennialism’ you have signed on board with.
Are you sure you still agree about common core perennialism?
Bromhall
interesting: Bromhall aticle begins by questions what TYPE of determinism James asserted. I too, immed when reading James article, DoD, immediately saw James trying to construct an argument for domino-chain determinism that would – instead – try to produce eternalism, which is a contradictory system. determinism (always defined as domino-chain determinism, per Kafei) just as ‘entheogen’ is always drug and never (contra Wouter Hanegraaff ) non-drug) —
determinism and eternalism are COMPARABLE BUT VERY DIFFERENT.
Obvisously freewill ~= possibilism, and determinism ~= eternalism. but, unformatulately, the KIND of “determinism ” that the stupid Phil dept created, is stupidly always domino-chain determinism, which I always rejected. I believe in causality, but, don’t like arguing for a preset future of the type that’s preset due to domino-chain determinism causality. The future is rpresent preset b/c it already exists, NOT because it’s open but inevidatbly will domino-into existence per “predictionism”.
predicting is irrelevant
domino-chain determinism causality is irrelevant, for experiecing 4D Spacetime Mysticism.
mushroom-trees artists couldn’t care less about domino-chain determinism causality, it’s irrelavnt to the Psilocybin expeirence.
On Psilocybin what the mind sees, what’s revealed, has nothing do d to do w/ domino-chain determinism. domino causality is not why (or, the sensed sense in which) the future is frighteningly “closed”.
Awareness sees that the future already exists; you feel you have no arms to steer, and the possibilities branching are illusions except the one, already-existing path, “nowhere to turn L or R on the vine yard path” (Balaam).
When mind meets the angel of death, holding {blade}, and your lower self halts on the path.
Your lower self, the egoic personal control system; {donkey}. All its thoughts are, hiddenly, pre-set/ pre-existing; pre-given.
All the words I speak, to Israel, are put in my mouth by God. not by the evil king who sent me to curse Israel.
Rise of the Arrogant Psychonaut (Houot 2025)
I have only read 30% of the pages (and his dissertation & two articles) so I don’t know, I guess I would give it 4 out of 5 stars b/c the topic is good, but the treatment seems to be mixed-quality of execution.
My mission is to explain mental transformation to cognitive scientists, as my main audience that I relate to, which is exactly along the lines of the book’s concept.
I feel obliged to read all pages of the book since I recommended the book to the church book club, and yet I am echoing the book club’s rather negative verdict about the tone, and lack of respect for & credit to forebears.
But I criticize the other suggested book, Badiner’s Zig Zag Zen, too, because (as far as I can tell, re: the 1st Ed.), all of the contributors share the false, prejudiced presupposition that adding the sacrament to meditation is an innovation.
Chemist David Nichols agrees with me: we both strongly believe meditation came from none other than the sacrament.
ZZZ 😴 is disrespectful, in that sense, toward the sacrament, and I can’t stand reading it (I got the hardcover in 2002).
LOL someone’s trying to sell it for $2000, & $750!
Maybe Houot just got off to a poor start in the intro, a misstep, “don’t read this book if you like other approaches”.
Some readers assessed that Houot is young, immature, arrogant, needs an editor.
Houot wrote 3 publications for academia, but he evidences a disrespect for a popular audience, really underestimating, it seems.
Houot should take Popular writing lessons from Michael Pollan – the field-invader, who is overly well-funded & networked, who is a top-notch writer, teaching writing at UC Berkeley.
Opposites: Quantum Mysticism vs. 4D Mysticism
4D Mysticism
fdm
Good contrast-pair. Say them aloud together.
quan tum
four dee
Opposites: Quantum Mysticism vs. 4D Spacetime Mysticism
4D Spacetime Mysticism
fdsm
4D is much more pertinent or narrowly specific, than broad term “spacetime”. 4D h
4D has a specific meaning, in the context of being placed in opposition / contrast against “quantum”, as “what type of mysticism”.
Quantum Mysticism vs. __ Mysticism
Quantum Mysticism vs. Spacetime Mysticism
Quantum Mysticism vs. 4D Mysticism
pretty similar; ok to switch between. then add ‘branching’.
Quantum Branching Mysticism vs. 4D Non-Branching Mysticism
Quantum Branching Mysticism vs. Spacetime Non-Branching Mysticism
Quantum Branching Many-Worlds Mysticism vs. 4D Non-Branching Spacetime Mysticism
Quantum Branching Many-Worlds Mysticism
quantum branching many-worlds mysticism
qbmm
search web to check capzn:
OMG Wiki page exists for “Quantum Mysticism”! But Where’s My Page on 4D Spacetime Mysticism?? 😢😭
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism – “Many early quantum physicists held some interest in traditionally Eastern metaphysics.
“Physicists Werner Heisenberg and Erwin Schrödinger, two of the main pioneers of quantum mechanics in the 1920s, were interested in Eastern mysticism, but are not known to have directly associated one with the other.
“In fact [wtf do you mean “in fact”??], both endorsed the Copenhagen [BOO!] interpretation of quantum mechanics.”
🤢 I hate the Copenhagen interp, people gush and fawn after it exactly as they do Amanita; for all the wrong reasons, worship of anti-rationality; egoic freewill gleeful pursuit project.
Wiki: Superdeterminism
James T. Cushing against the hasty egoic rush to worship the Copenhagen interpretation of Quantum Physics: why didn’t we take the other fork in the road, or even consider it? ie , hidden variables; Superdeterminism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdeterminism —
“In quantum mechanics, superdeterminism is a loophole in Bell’s theorem. [like a vulnerability hole in the right side, blade inserted]
{thorn} is a form of {blade}
“By postulating that all systems being measured are correlated with the choices of which measurements to make on them, the assumptions of the theorem are no longer fulfilled.
“A hidden variables theory which is superdeterministic can thus fulfill Bell’s notion of local causality and still violate the inequalities derived from Bell’s theorem.
“This makes it possible to construct a local hidden-variable theory that reproduces the predictions of quantum mechanics, for which a few toy models have been proposed.
“In addition to being deterministic, superdeterministic models also postulate correlations between the state that is measured and the measurement setting.”
i’m really glad to see other people puncturing the dirty willful conflation of “measure” & “consciously observe” – that wiki page gives me hope.
Wiki: Spacetime
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime — “In physics, spacetime, also called the space-time continuum, is a mathematical model that fuses the three dimensions of space and the one dimension of time into a single four-dimensional continuum.
Spacetime diagrams are useful in visualizing and understanding relativistic effects, such as how different observers perceive where and when events occur.
—
Until the turn of the 20th century, the assumption had been that the three-dimensional geometry of the universe (its description in terms of locations, shapes, distances, and directions) was distinct from time (the measurement of when events occur within the universe).
However, space and time took on new meanings with the Lorentz transformation and special theory of relativity.”
“In 1908, Hermann Minkowski presented a geometric interpretation of special relativity that fused time and the three spatial dimensions into a single four-dimensional continuum now known as Minkowski space.
“This interpretation proved vital to the general theory of relativity, wherein spacetime is curved by mass and energy.”
/ END OF SPACETIME
Black Sabbath: Shock Wave lyrics
Black Sabbath: Shock Wave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn8eNagiEvU
https://www.google.com/search?q=black+sabbath%3A+Shockwave+lyrics – excerpts for scholarly analysis:
There’s no reason for you to run
You can’t escape the fate of the chosen one
Black moon rising, in a blood red sky [astral ascent mysticism]
This time you realise that you’re gonna die
When darkness has taken over your mind
And you think you’re on your own
Don’t believe you are the only one here
Look around, you’re not alone [the higher controller reveals itself]
Feel the forces from another world
Ghostly shadows fill your mind
Evil power hanging over you
As you freeze, your life in time [psychedelic q’air effect items]
Look behind you
Somebody’s calling
Someone is near
Feel yourself falling
Falling with fear
You tell yourself that it just can’t be true [your personal control thoughts don’t come from you; they were given to you from outside time]
But there is nothing you can do
Ghostly shadows from the other world
Evil forces in your mind
Trapped between the worlds of life and death
Frozen in the realms of time [eternalism]
Look behind you
[Abraham turned, looked up, looked behind him, saw ram caught in a ticket] [Mithras turn right look up & behind while blade in bull right side]
Eternalism: see Michael Pollan: How to Change Your Mind – his terrible experience of timelessness, then he sees the blithering mis-framed Mystical Experience Questionnaire (MEQ-POS) item:
“Did you feel timelessness, which is super nifty?
Pollan was forced to reply “N/A” to this BROKEN INSTRUMENT from Tim Leary 1963 based on Stace-the-Clown’s 1960, positive-balanced model of mystical experience.
🦄💨🌈 😊👍
🤯😵🐍
The Overlooked, Forgotten, Original Version of Physics Mysticism (Eternalism-Based): 4D Spacetime Mysticism
Quantum Mysticism is possibilism-based. The battle between Relativity vs Quantum Mysticism ~= is parallel to the THE BATTLE THAT SHOULD HAVE OCCURRED.
Instead, Quantum Mysticism (which is possibilism-based) simply REPLACED nascent 1875-1908 Physics Mysticism, which is 4D Spacetime Mysticism (eternalism-based).
I’m identifying the opposite, forgotten, overlooked brand of Physics Mysticism from 1875-1908: I might call it “4D Spacetime Mysticism” or “4D Mysticism”, based on Minkowski’s math model of time as a 4th Dimension, competing against later, 1920’s Quantum Mysticism.
I am defining short, med, & long forms of concept-labels for the two opposite brands.
bad thing about term 4D Mysticism — it omits the Physics term that is ocntrasteted contraste d vs the PHysics term “quantum”.
Quantum Mysticism vs 4D Mysticism – SAY IT ALOUD, IT SOUNDS GOOD. THEREFORE these two are a good pair of terms.
Quantum Mysticism vs. 4D Mysticism
qmv4m
Quantum Branching Mysticism vs. 4D Non-Branching Mysticism
Quantum Branching Mysticism vs. 4D Spacetime Non-Branching Mysticism
latter: too many syllables
Quantum Branching Mysticism vs. 4D Non-Branching Mysticism
Quantum (Branching) Mysticism vs. 4D (Non-Branching) Mysticism
Nice! 😊👍🏆
quantum many-worlds vs. 4D single-world
The Many-Worlds Interpretation (Ego Inflation Times Infinity): “Time as a Many-Branched Tree”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation –
“The many-worlds interpretation implies that there are many parallel, non-interacting worlds.
“It is one of a number of multiverse hypotheses in physics and philosophy.
“MWI views time as a many-branched tree, wherein every possible quantum outcome is realized.
“This is intended to resolve the measurement problem and thus some paradoxes of quantum theory, such as Wigner’s friend, the EPR paradox, and Schrödinger’s cat, since every possible outcome of a quantum event exists in its own world.”
Quantum (Possibilism) Mysticism vs. 4D (Eternalism) Mysticism
Branching Mysticism vs. Non-Branching Mysticism
Wiki: “Block Universe” redir’s to Eternalism (philosophy of time)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternalism_(philosophy_of_time) –
“In the philosophy of space and time, eternalism[1] is an approach to the ontological nature of time, which takes the view that all existence in time is equally real, as opposed to presentism or the growing block universe theory of time, in which at least the future is not the same as any other time.
“Some forms of eternalism give time a similar ontology to that of space, as a dimension, with different times being as real as different places, and future events are “already there” in the same sense other places are already there, and that there is no objective flow of time.
—
“It is sometimes referred to as the “block time” or “block universe” theory due to its description of space-time as an unchanging four-dimensional “block”, as opposed to the view of the world as a three-dimensional space modulated by the passage of time.”
Quantum Mysticism vs. 4D Mysticism
My 2001 posts about Physics two opposite branching models in the Egodeath Yahoo Group – Max Freakout archive:
Message #1 is my 1997 summary, has good section on eternalism –
https://egodeathyahoogroup.wordpress.com/2021/01/09/egodeath-yahoo-group-digest-1/#message1
Message #10 might contain the points:
quantum = branching, 4D spacetime block universe = non-branching
https://egodeathyahoogroup.wordpress.com/2021/01/09/egodeath-yahoo-group-digest-1/#message10
Quantum Branching Mysticism vs. 4D Non-Branching Mysticism
qbmv4nm
qv4
A good pair!
Quantum Mysticism vs. 4D Spacetime Mysticism
OTOH both have 2 syllables: quan tum; four dee
The future already exists.
4D Mysticism & Minkowski’s view is actually eternalism, not “determinism”; eternalism is NOT like domino-chain determinism. As my miscommunication with Kafei highlighted.
4D eternalism & Mink “absolute four-dimensional spacetime” is more like the opposite of “determinism” (which is always defined as domino-chain determinism), re: whether the future “now exists”.
Especially, most pointedly to kill ego, determinism contradicts eternalism re: whether your future control-thoughts already exist, in a single, pre-created , pre-existing future, timelessly entire 4D block created all at once –
Minkowski
mink
domino-chain determinism cannot kill and threten and frighten egoic control.
eternalism pointedly does so. eternalism is a blade killing ego, determinism (domino-chain determinism) is not.
4D eternalism per Mink; per eternalism – mediocre explanation by Josie Kins, a jumble of domino-chain determinism mixed with eternalism, oil and water conflating two different worldmodels in the Effect Index .com entry “Perception of Eternalism”.
Hippie Quantum Mysticism Books
I think this is the book i saw in student union bookstore:
June 2011
https://www.amazon.com/How-Hippies-Saved-Physics-Counterculture/dp/0393076369/
Another book by David Kaiser, after that:
Groovy Science: Knowledge, Innovation, and American Counterculture
David Kaiser (Editor), W. Patrick McCray (Editor)
2016
https://www.amazon.com/Groovy-Science-Knowledge-Innovation-Counterculture/dp/022637288X/
The Egodeath theory combines 4D Spacetime w/ the altered state.
4D Non-Branching Spacetime Mysticism
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New concept-label: New lexicon term: 4D Spacetime Mysticism; 4D Mysticism (vs. Quantum Mysticism); or “Spacetime Mysticism”?
For a two-word term for the Minkowski-based mysticism view that can go head-to-head against “Quantum Mysticism”, the term “Spacetime Mysticism” doesn’t work; it’s way too vague.
All of Physics connotes “spacetime”, including Relativity and Quantum, both – tho spacetime is much closer to Rel. than to Quan.
That proves that the key word is ‘4D’, not ‘spacetime’.
“4D Mysticism” works, “Spacetime Mysticism” doesn’t work – as far as short terms that based in Physics to compete against the opposite view, “Quantum Mysticism”.
The key concept that makes the term “4D” effectively work:
“4D” means: time is like a space dimension. space dimensions exist whether you are at that location or not; so 4D connotes that the time dimension exists, likewise. Europe exists tho i am not there. My future thoughts exist tho i am not there.
That’s what “4D Mysticism” means in this context of fighting against / contrasting against the term / view, “Quantum Mysticism”.
per book Flatland 1884 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatland – “After the Square’s mind is opened to new dimensions, he tries to convince the Sphere of the theoretical possibility of the existence of a fourth dimension and higher spatial dimensions. Still, the Sphere returns his student to Flatland in disgrace.”
mid 1880s was more a 4th spatial dimension.
Minkowski = time as a 4th dimension.
A year ago, I posted wiki links about different versions of 4 dims, as I was tracing the history of what should have been , like Quantum Mysticism , a pop eternalism Physics-based mysticism prior to 1920-era Quantum Mysticism.
If Minkowski hadn’t died 1908, he would have become a Newage guru of 4D Spacetime Mysticism, battling against Quantum Mysticism.
1896/1919 Mescaline + 4D Spacetime Physics = psychedelic eternalism.
James 1897 seems close to discovering psychedelic eternalism — if he could abandon reasoning in terms of domino-chain determinism, which cannot produce bona fide eternalism.
Mescaline identified 1896 Arthur Heffter, synthesized 1919 Ernst Späth.

‘spacetime’ is too vauge. 4D is highly specific (Petkov book about Minkowski w/ 4 Mink articles 1908) – book front intro chapters usu says like
“absolute four-dimensional spacetime“.
i think ‘absolute’ is to contrast hero Mink vs villain Ein’s ‘relativity’, b/c antonyms: absolute vs. releative.
like against the Secret Amanita paradigm is the Explicit Cubensis paradigm. tho friend advsis: advises: no one heard of the word ‘Cubensis’. “I never heard the word ‘Cubensis’. Use normal common word: Psilocybin. if so, phrase would be:
the Explicit Psilocybin paradigm
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Lexicon Design: Pairs of Opposite Terms: the Secret Amanita paradigm, the Explicit Psilocybin paradigm
Antonym terms: free will vs. determinism; possibilism vs. eternalism
Opposites: Quantum Mysticism vs. 4D Mysticism [2]
possibilism vs. eternalism
pve
the altered state
2-level control
2lc
free will vs. determinism
fwd
p. 14 of “Conjuring Eden” & p. 56 of “Daturas for the Virgin”
14&56
At one time, the word ‘paradigm’ was new jargon. Thomas Kuhn 1960s:
Time travel to 1950: hey guys i have a new paradigm! “wtf?? spk English!”
{rock} vs. “iron”
“iron block” – iron fails to be ancient myth. they say rock, stone, sculpture, statue:
- king & rulers turned to stone upon seeing snake.
- girls leaped off rock mountain upon lift lid & see father snake, to their death.
- giant throw rocks at Odysseus escaping.
- Mithras born from cosmic rock (heimarmene boundary at top of onion layer 8, fixed stars, Ogdoad, moving into 9 Ennead = precession of equinoxes per David Ulansey)
What’s the opposite, competing brand from 1875-1908 in Pop Physics Mysticism, before everyone took a wrong turn to many-worlds Quantum Mysticism?
12:55 Mar 12 2025 i think i have my term i was developing: candidate: “4D Spacetime Mysticism” vs my other existing term “Quantum Mysticism”
VOX_TK_6431.wav – the too-gated, leaf blower, Mar 11, 2025: list all terms on both sides:
I am looking to form good short labels of the two opposed competing brands of Physics Mysticism that should have been defined in 1920 brands
A Y fork in the road: we took the wronge turn like books by Cushing say, against Copen’ism. Bohm took the correct turn, vs. THE MINORITY TURN.
The stupid majority mass of stupid pop cult went running after Quantum Mysticism – they ought to be have taken the other, ORIGINAL version of Physics Mysticism, which was 4D block time.
Not domino-chain determinism though, that’s the worst; it is merely possibilism -premised iron block is a garbled mess on egoic foundation.
I rejected domino-chain determinism from the start (Summer 1988, reading read pamphlet book A Conversation: free will vs. determinism : clifford stole? ), like November 1987 when I started to figure out the Way of Zen by Alan Watts better than his hazy poetic desc that failed to say “determinism”.
I wrote in Nov Dec 1987 binder, the Way of Zen by Alan Watts.
Watts, why the hell didn’t you write ‘determinism”?! [more precisely, eternalism]
The Way of Zen by Alan Watts is not a muddy expression of assertion of “determinism”, actually, of eternalism ! 4D spacetime, block-universe eternalism.
Not really block-universe determinism, which is a poor, oil-and-water construction, polluted with the egoic freewill premise of essentially open future that does not exist.
block-universe determinism – future doesn’t exist. “Closed” because/ in the sense that, domino causality.
block-universe eternalism – future exists. The future is closed because/ in the sense of, the future already exists.
Your future control thoughts are cast in stone b/c they already exist.
Your future control thoughts are not merely” inevitable” — far more strongly, your future control thoughts ALREADY EXIST, so is a DONE DEAL, as in, the creation of your thoughts was done in the timeless past.
Your future control thoughts were already created and are already sitting cast in stone.
Domino-chain determinism is the exact opposite sense of “closed future”. Entirely different foundation and way of thinking!
Eternalism has NOTHING to do w/ domino-chain determinism, they are practically opposite ways of thinking! Differently based worldviews.
Letheby’s “fate” discussions are all mis-founded on domino-chain determinism. He is ignorant of 4D spacetime eternalism.
Not in his impoverished starve-to-death buffet of bunk options.
In Chris Letheby’s writings, Find: eternalism, 4D spacetime block-universe eternalism.
He writes “fatalism”, wtf is even that. A sign of ignorance & impoverishment.
What the Way of Zen by Alan Watts is struggling to assert, by hitting student w/ stick, is eternalism – not determinism, technically, though I said “oh u mean ‘determinism'”, b/c like everyone, I didn’t know of the term ‘eternalism’.
Watts fails to use either term, bizarrely.
Eternalism totally explains Satori and mental model transformation, I realized in Dec. 1987, then a huge block-universe determinism altered state breakthrough in Jan. 1988 by using Minkowski 4D spacetime.
4D block time – “the crystalline ground of being” — solves and explains and makes sense for satori:
Watts, why didn’t you simply say “Satori is determinism”, like spirituality meditation guy against Ken Wilber — Ramesh Balsekar: “enlightenment = no-free-will”.
But trashcan domino-chain determinism , it sucks and is not at all same as eternalism b/c 4D future ALREADY EXISTS (and is single – an important contrast against branching many-worlds).
1875-1908, was v1 of Physics Mysticism: 4D mysticism of the late 1800s.
The occult style of 1895, vs. later modern studpid Quantum Mysticism worship of many-worlds ego mega inflation:
I AM THE CREATOR OF INFINITE WORLDS AT EVERY MOMENT, B/C I WORSHIP Quantum Mysticism infinitely ultra-branching many-worlds.
What did Physics find? Physics has proved that observation causes reality, and that by my power of conscious observing, at every moment, I am creating infinite worlds.
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Below, I transcribed that recording, mostly brainstorming a list of key terms on two sides, grouped.
List of All Key Terms for Possibilism vs Eternalism: The Two Opposite Brands of Physics Mysticism
All Key Terms, Grouped, for 4D Mysticism vs. Quantum Mysticism
Brand 1: 4D Mysticism (All Associated Terms)
Brand 1 of Physics Mysticism: eternalism, 1875-1908
4D Mysticism
4D Spacetime Mysticism
4D (Non-Branching) Mysticism
- 2-level, dependent control
- 4D
- block universe
- closed future
- determinism
- Einstein
- eternalism
- Minkowski
- no-free-will
- non-branching
- pre-existing control thoughts
- pre-existing future
- Relativity
- spacetime
- Special Relativity
Brand 2: Quantum Mysticism (All Associated Terms)
Brand 2 of Physics Mysticism: possibilism, 1920
- branching
- branching possibilities
- freewill
- many-world
- many-worlds
- monolithic control-agent
- monolithic, autonomous control
- open future
- possibilism
- possibility branching
- steering power
- quantum physics
- quantum mechanics
Labels for Quantum Mysticism vs. 4D Mysticism
Physics Mysticism brand 1: which concept-label?
Physics Mysticism later, 2nd, brand 2: like Late Antiquity’s value-flip against “enlightenment as heimarmene revelation”.
Quantum Mysticism was a rebuttal, A BACKLASH to add egoic branching-thinking, freewill power.
Quantum Mysticism was a backlash against 4D Mysticism.
What concept-label to use? What are the key words?
The appeal of Quantum Mysticism is not many-worlds, but rather, branching possibilities; possibilism.
1875 appeal of nascent, inchoate [not fully formed], proto- 4D block non-branching eternalism myticism.
They ought to have thought of that mystic system this way: __
They should have been grasping and pursuing 4D Spacetime Mysticism.
Contrast against the other later brand, Physics Mysticism brand 2:
Quantum Mysticism
Do NOT call one “freewill” and the other “determinism”; rather, truly the two well-contrasted brands actually are eternalism vs. possibilism.
The backlash response type of Physics Mysticism: Quantum Mysticism.
Many-worlds is opposite of 4D block single-world.
The complement of ‘quantum’ in pop lingo is pop jargon… how they ought to have used labels / lexicon that’s better?
The opposite of quantum would be “4D” or block, relativity/invarienten
Draw a line boundary, group all of the key terms into two groups.
The Forgotten, Original Version of Physics Mysticism: 4D Block Time, Flatland, 1875 – “Iron Block View” Is a Misnomer for “Domino-Chain Determinism Causality”
James mis-calles domino-chain determinism “the iron block view” – latter is actually eternalism, which has entirely diff’t basis foundation than domino-chain determinism. domino-chain determinism is worst, bad, confusion, halfway between freewill and eternalism.
You can’t do what James does, get from domino-chain determinism to eternalism – he hates “iron block univsere” – but he mixed that up w/ very diff’t, domino-chain determinism.
In 1897 article “The Dilemma of Determinism”, which i only started reading, and searching within, James has to jump a big gap from domino-chain determinism to reach eternalism – that doesn’t work. You can’t get from domino-chain determinism to eternalism aka iron block determinism. domino-chain determinism != iron block.
iron block means eternalism, not domino-chain determinism! James has a confused mix, 90% domino-chain determinism, only 10% actual iron block block-universe eternalism.
a half baked term: block-universe determinism that i used a long time 1988-2007. more proper is block-universe eternalism.
block-universe determinism ~= block-universe determinism, but different foundation! the future is “closed” in two very different senses per block-universe determinism vs block-universe eternalism.
The future is “closed” in two very different senses (for different reasons/ due to different mechanisms) in block-universe determinism vs. block-universe eternalism
the term block-universe determinism does not even cohere! domino-chain determinism does not produce “block-universe determinism”, does not produce a block universe.
Mink would not agree that the domino-chain determinism described by James is same as 4D spacetime block – very very different! I always rejected domino-chain determinism: smear it disparage it as domino-chain determinism
Incoherent “Open-Future Domino-chain determinism”, says the future does not exist and is ‘open’ in that sense – but 4D says the future exists
So, are VERY DIFFERENT VIEWS/ fundamentally different ways of Thinking about how (in what way/ sense, by what mechanism) the future is “closed”!
Determinism = Domino-Chain Causality; Eternalism = 4D Block Causality
All times were created at once; the entire 4D block was crewated all at once – THAT is the true reason & sense the future is “closed”, and “cast in stone”.
The future is cast in stone in that it already exists, NOT because of later outcome of domino-chain determinism!
Kafei knows this,
Josie Kins only half gets it,
Wm James barely understands. properly understood.
Vetkov arg’s that EINSTEIN DID NOT COMPREHEND BLOCK TIME, mink did.
Minkowski clearly understood fully, except for 2-level, dependent control, preexisting control-thoughts causing king ego to die.
James and Kins don’t grok 4D.
Josie Kins is 70% eternalism, but POLLUTED with IMPURE, 30% domino-chain determinism which is dirty possibilism-thinking.
Contaminated.
Unwashed.
Vetkov, Minkowski, Michael Hoffman, and Kafei grok 4D spacetime.
I am complaining that no one pays any attention to my brand of Physics Mysticism: 4D Spacetime Mysticism.
Everyone is in love with Quantum Mysticism many-worlds branching , I am sad about that, why don’t they pick the earlier, 4D 1875-1908 style of Physics Mysticism that was only partially formed, inchoate.
First, in the 1800s, people partly started forming a version of mysticism eg the novel Flatland, and 1980s Rucker book Time as a 4th Dimension.
For a short brief period, 1875-1908, thinkers the culture of the day created v1 of Physics Mysticism, originally based on time as 4th dimension; block-universe determinism/ block-universe eternalism.
But then, around 1920, everyone rebelled and rejected that, and ran toward instead, many-worlds egoic steering power Quantum Mysticism.
The mechanical reason in whci, because of which, the reason why / the sense in which future is “closed”: because the FUTURE ALREADY EXISTS – NOT b/c of DOMINO-CHAIN DETERMINISM!
I have always disliked and rejected domino-chain determinism argumentation, since mid-1988 when I first read about to confirm my eternalism block-universe determinism model of mental model transformation in loose cognition.
My Driving Motivation Now: Give Cognitive Scientists a Useful Scientific Explanatory Model to Equip Them to Explore and Research Psilocybin Transformation
Email to Rick March 12, 2025
Below is my history of changing motivations for studying the altered state.
Now my driving mission is to appropriately equip cognitive scientists to endure the Psilocybin state in order to explore that state for scientific research and discovery, by providing a USEFUL, clear (STEM-expressed), most-relevant explanatory framework of Psilocybin transformation:
mental worldmodel transformation from the Possibilism to the Eternalism mental model of time, self, possibility, and control,
including religious myth as clarifying analogy, & art motifs. Give them expert understanding of how mythemes & motifs describe by analogy, Psilocybin transformation “to eternalism*” —
Transformation to a combination of possibilism-thinking & eternalism-thinking, per split-level compatibilism.
Translate from “free will vs. determinism” to “possibilism vs. eternalism” which is more well-formed. Not presentism (Josie Kins’ mis-contrast). Not domino-chain determinism (James 1897 mis-contrast).
You can see James struggling to construct eternalism, which has a fundamentally different basis than domino-chain determinism. He is trying hard — in vain? — to get from the domino-chain determinism argumentation done really well, to produce an outcome of eternalism instead – doesn’t really work, as Kafei & I found.
Wouter Hanegraaff is wrong to say, in “Entheogenic Esotericism keynote article chapter in Chris Partridge book-pair (at academia .edu),
“Although this redefines the word ‘entheogen’, argument from etymology [which everyone knows is invalid] supports my redefinition to: non-drug entheogens.”
Me 2007: “Although this redefines the word ‘determinism’, I don’t mean domino-chain determinism, but eternalism.”
Kafei: “the Egodeath theory is stupid domino-chain determinism. Proved by not using the term ‘absolute’.”
By semi-coincidence, Minkowski book about emphatic eternalism in Physics, very strongly uses the word ‘absolute’, to rebut ‘relative’. Book argues that Einstein’s use of ‘relativ’ shows he doesn’t comprehend 4D ramifications, like Mink does: “absolute four-dimensional spacetime”. I don’t think the word ‘absolute’ means anything clearly in myst’m or in relativity Physics, unless contrasted against “Relativity”. german: ‘theory of invariance” – IDK why Petkov doesn’t give the gernam German title of theory of relevaitity, “invarienten”:
In 1988, as I recall, I saw a German article by Einstein titled like Theory of Invariantentheorie.
“It is occasionally remarked that Einstein was unhappy that SR became referred to as a ‘theory of relativity’, when in his eyes it was, much more importantly, a theory of invariants (Invariantentheorie). I’m trying to find a quotable source for this, but can’t. Can anyone point me in the right direction?”
“I believe that part of his disquiet was to do with the mischief (potential or actual?) caused by linking SR with philosophical or ethical relativism (which it of course has nothing to do with), but probably more significantly that calling it ‘relativity’ muddles the problem (the frame dependence of coordinates) with the solution (the invariance of the interval).”
“I can find an essay (see p.270) which says:
“We know from his biographies that Einstein was not content with associations which his expression “Principle of Relativity” (or “Theory of Relativity”) had provoked, so he would prefer that his theory was named die Invariantentheorie (Theory of Invariance), following Felix Klein’s term, but it was already too late to rename it.”
“As well, I’ve found a rather hand-waving remark that ‘The historian of science Gerald Holton reports that Einstein was unhappy with the label ‘relativity theory’ and in his correspondence referred to it as Invariantentheorie…’. Neither of these authors, however, seems to quote an actual source (grr).”
Not proved: “..he did not use the term relativity. In fact, he did not use the term until 1911, years after other physicists had referred to his work in that way. Einstein referred to the theoretical basis of his work as Invarianten Theorie until social pressure forced him in 1911 to change”.
I remember around 1988 I took great note that the original, German title or name was “invarienten”, and I wondered why English mis-translated it as “relativity”, completely inverting the meaning.
Glad to see Stack page interest in this point, in detail, appreciate the research & fairly detailed confirmation of my 1988 observation.
I wish to see what I saw in 1988: I thought it was the German title of a 1905 Einstein article, I just might be getting the details slightly wrong but I am certain I saw essentially that.
The Stack page implies that ‘invariant’ merely refers to the perceived constant speed of light, which merely describes Ein’s thought experiment way that he thought of the theory, not a description of the theory itself:
“‘Invariance Theory’ is not very precise; it only describes the research method of the theory, not the content of the theory.” (Specifically the Special Theory of Relativity, not the motion-focused General Theory of Relativity.)
I feel sure am completely certain that I saw an Einstein article titled like “Invarianten Theorie” – Michael Hoffman. Maybe in 1988. I took great note of the word! Around when I was in a university Modern Physics course. During library research when I got a book of the 1905 Einstein articles.
Can’t Redefine ‘Determinism’ as Eternalism, though the “free will vs. determinism” debate ~= possibilism vs. eternalism
obviously determinism maps to eternalism, and freewill maps to possibilism
determinism ~= eternalism, but see the confusion between Kafei & me b/c … the prob.. this is a sympotom of a huge problem for centuries forever: everyone in the world debates about determinism, but, they all define it literally and specifically as domino-chain determinism – as Kafei pointed out. In effect, Kafei told me “You CANNOT redefine ‘determinism’ to mean eternalism aka “the absolute” (that seems to be Kafei’s term instead) – determinism BY DEFINITION
Reminds me of ‘entheogen’ means, by definition, psychedelic chemicals.
You CANNOT do what Wouter Hanegraaff did, “although this totally changes the word to mean the exact opposite of what it means…”
The word “up”, in the broad sense, means “down”.
The word “true”, in the broad sense, means “false.
The word “entheogen”, in the broad sense, means non-drug methods that can/ could/ might / may [ie, that do not] cause the exact same effect as 12g of dried Cubensis.
Heavy breathing can cause the exact same effect as 12g of dried Psilocybin mushrooms. <- HEY ACADEMICS: YOU ARE *LIARS* AND IT IS NOT COOL WHAT YOU ARE DOING: AGREEING TO LIE TO EACH OTHER AND PLAY-ACT AS IF YOU BELIEVE YOUR OWN B.S. Ndmm the traditional methods of the mystics is BULL and you know it but you agree to lie and pretend.
It’s a DOGMATIC LIE, THAT non-drug methods “can” produce same as Psilocybin; NO THEY CANNOT, LIAR. GTFO, liars!
The academic community of liars.
Never in a million years did heavy breathting EVER cause transformation from possibilism to eternalism, which is THE ultimate, definitive, main effect of Psilocybin.
Even if heavy breathing, active imagination, and other bull sh!t fabrications do cause AN altered state, they do not and cannot produce THE altered state; transformation from possibilism to eternalism – ie, WHETHER FAKE METHODS LIKE BREATHING CAUSE AN ALTERED STATE OR NOT IS IRRELEVANT.
THE ONLY QUESTION THAT MATTERS, Wouter Hanegraaff, IS: DO THESE ALLEGED “MANY OTHER METHODS” CAUSE TRANSFORMATION FROM POSSIBILISM TO ETERNALISM?
What do the liar-academics claim? “Drugs are not the only way to ___; we know that there are many, many other methods that also ___.”
If the liar-academics are merely saying non-drug meditation causes AN altered state, ok, true – an altered state that’s feeble, ineffectual, wimpy, wussy, avoidance-method, neutered, impotent, fake ersatz slight dizziness – entirely irrelevant.
If the liar-academics are
THE LYING ACADEMIC LIARS HAVE NOT ONE SHRED OF *EVIDENCE* THAT ALLEGED OTHER METHODS PRODUCE Psilocybin EFFECTS ESPECIALLY TRANSFORMATION FROM POSSIBILISM TO ETERNALISM.
Lying Academic Liars Require No Substantiation for Their Claim “Many Non-Drug Methods Can Produce Psilocybin Effects” — But No Amount of Evidence Suffices, for Mushrooms in Christian Art
If you assert “There’s mushroom imagery in Christian art”, the lying academic liars say: “We demand evidence!“
If you assert “Non-drug meditation or heavy breathing can cause the same effect as 12g of Psilocybin mushrooms”, the lying academic liars say: “Ok, no evidence needed!“
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per voice recording Mar 11 yesterday 2025:
I was wrong to attempt to redefine the word ‘determinism’ to mean eternalism, but, I didn’t find ‘eternalism’ or ‘superdeterminism’ until the day after I finalized my main article Sep. 2007 (per Egodeath Yahoo Group archive posts).
per voice recording Mar 11 2025. near 6348.wav mixed w mic tests. Much of these new ideas in this email are from those voice recordings where I started reading aloud the James 1897 article The Dilemma of Determinism.
I’m now working out this idea studying 1897-1908 Minkowski spacetime block 4D universe (non-branching, eternalism) — against Quantum Mysticism, which = many-worlds branching freewill power.
“The Dilemma of Determinism”, William James, 1897
https://faculty.georgetown.edu/blattnew/intro/james_dilemma_of_determinism.pdf
I give you eternalism, which is kind of like dread/rejected “iron block determinism” — but per William James 1897 article, where he tries really hard to make domino-chain determinism/ causality produce a fundamentally differently based thing, the real treasure, eternalism.
I do not take away your precious possibilism-thinking / freewill thinking! It is washed, and used, not destroyed.
The angel holds back the blade of Abraham; God blesses him “because you have done this thing, and have not held back offering up your beloved, only child.”
Rev 22:14 —https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev%2022%3A14&version=KJV;NIV –
“Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city.”
William James is correct that we practically have and must revere and use freewill thinking – even at the same time as — per Jonathan Bricklin’s 2015 book about psychedelic eternalism(!) & Wm James:
The Egodeath Theory Gives You Split-Level Compatibilism; You End Up with Both Possibilism-Thinking & Eternalism-Thinking
We actually have underlying eternalism. I combine those two realities – we end up with possibilism and eternalism BOTH:
Split-level Compatibilism; you end up with:
* Eternalism-thinking re: underlying level +
* Redeemed/ justified / purified / cleansed possibilism-thinking at the practical level of personal control system;
* Practical-level possibilism: You always love and retain and depend on using child-thinking; child Isaac: the egoic personal control system, shaped as possibilism / freewill thinking: ordinary-state possibilism with monolithic, autonomous control . . .
* Underlying-level eternalism: . . . while telling God – your higher thinking – you acknowledge the reality of underlying block-universe eternalism w/ 2-level, dependent control.
You might start with literalist thinking; but, you end up with understanding/ comprehending/ recognizing religious myth as analogies, instead.
Thus you {paid the sacrifice toll} at the {rock, fire, branches, blade) altar} to {pass through the guarded gate to get the treasure}.
After Psilocybin transformation / satori/ enlightenment, after mental model transformation, you end up with BOTH POSSIBILISM AND ETERNALISM in this way & sense.
> The perfect harmony of approaches: loyal to science, AND, love the psychedelic divine and experiencing the highest levels of spiritual bliss.
> When in the realm of the gods, play by the state-suitable rules.
> When in the real world, play by the state-suitable rules.
That’s equivalent to my “split-level Compatibilism”, and 2-state model, and William James 1897 (“The Dilemma of Determinism”, which I started reading) can relate.
The other article I’m reading, about James’ article, is by Kyle Bromhall:
AN INCHOATE UNIVERSE: JAMES’S PROBABILISTIC UNDERDETERMINISM
Kyle Bromhall, 2013
https://philarchive.org/archive/BROAIU-2
Per Bricklin’s 2015 psychedelic eternalism book about William James (The Illusion of Time, Self, & Will…), James was torn between trying to believe in both:
* practical freewill (possibilism) in the ordinary state, and
* Nitrous mystic-state altered state eternalism (“iron block universe determinism”).
The Ultimate Paradigm of Science: The Theory of Psychedelic Eternalism
> Loose cognition takes the mind to some places outside of Science.
The mind has a drive or hunger to voyage and seek the divine and enlightenment, which is accessed through cognitive loosening agents, specifically none other than psychedelics, certainly not meaning Amanita any more than Datura, but specifically as the gold standard reference, Psilocybin.
The ultimate purpose of Science is to form a useful explanatory model of Psilocybin transformation. the Egodeath theory is the ultimate paradigmatic instance of Science.
Science Is Nothing, if not an Explanation of Psychedelic Eternalism
Science is nothing, if not an explanation of psychedelic eternalism.
The Egodeath Theory Is the Highest Achievement of STEM
The Egodeath theory is the highest achievement of STEM. 1985-2025.
Egodeath.com, EgodeathTheory.WordPress.com
My Current Driving Mission & Central Target Audience/ User Persona: Equip Cognitive Scientists for the Psilocybin State
Now, my driving mission, most of all, is to equip Cognitive Scientists to endure and use the altered state, so that they can explore it for Science.
That is my defined target audience. If I can provide for their needs, that covers everyone’s needs.
That’s my strategic audience focus, who I can most relate to & provide for, in terms that they relate to.
Funny thing, I criticize the book we’re reading, Rise of the Psychonauts, even though my official focused mission — equip Cog Sci for scientific exploration — exactly aligns with (Houot) the author’s concept.
History of my previous driving motivations
Seeking the divine or pursuing Transcendent Knowledge was never my driving motivation.
Figuring out Transcendent Knowledge was a means to an end, of fixing my malfunctioning personal control. I reasoned that the first thing to do for self help, is rationally comprehend ego transcendence (in order to fix my malfunctioning personal control).
* 1985 Oct. 26 (Back to the Future day): My original, 1985-1987 motive was to figure out ego transcendence and satori in a clearly explained way per STEM, to fix my malfunctioning personal control.
* 1988 Jan.: In my Jan. 1988 breakthrough, my motivation changed to: Explain to others what satori mental model transformation is really about [vs. what Ken Wilber claims it’s about].
* 1998 a: Then in 1998 my motive was initially to get Jesus and Paul to confirm my theory of mental model transformation — but, I immediately found that religious founder figures are mythical.
* 1998 b: So, I changed my motive to: get religious myth to confirm my theory of mental model transformation, by assuming that religious myth is a garbled, overgrown-with-bushes, description or reflection of Psilocybin-induced experience of eternalism.
Details about success at that driving goal (myth confirms theory of mental model transformation):
* 2003: Success (finding {ingesting producing eternalism} in every brand of myth/ esotericism) was indicated in 2003 (showing that I was on the right track that would pan out).
eg, in astral ascent mysticism in Western Esotericism, I found {eating/drinking/food/drink}, and {eternalism} motifs/themes (heimarmene & then transcending fate).
* 2007 September: That theory of myth was then summarized in 2007 — though still missing recognition of the {branching} and {handedness} art motifs in the art that I included.
* 2013 Thanksgiving: Shook me for weeks: huge confirmation of key importance of {branching} motif/mytheme.
Our church library has that Joseph Campbell book, THE POWER OF MYTH(!!)


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Nice version of the tree emoji, on my screen: has trident branches holding up crown, like eg the Plaincourault fresco, and almost {cut right branch}. Its branching form is YI, the ideal form.
Branching mapped to Left; non-branching mental worldmodel mapped to Right. Like Eve Left hand hold branch, and right hand holding apple of enlightenment is near non-branching snake.
Finally found color of Lucas Cranach “Eve Tempted by the Serpent” from Campbell Power of Myth! Adam and Eve 1533 “Adam und Eva”
“Lucas Cranach” “Adam und Eva”
Another good version like my Nov 2013 breakthrough version: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_und_Eva_%28Cranach%29#/media/Datei:Image-Cranach_-_Adam_and_Eve_1533.jpg – Features:
- hold cut branch w/ left hand
- hold apple of enlightenment right hand touching non-branching trunk
- snake on right side of tree
- stag w/ branching antlers behind branching legs behind held branch
- branching legs
- weight on right foot
- golden apple Amanita colors
The color version of my Nov 2013 version of the Cranach painting:
found at page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_and_Eve_(Cranach)
showing “Eve Tempted by the Serpent” by Cranach, that shows: branching antlers, behind branching legs, behind holding a branch:
* 2015 Christmas: Dancing Man salamander bestiary’s mushroom-tree [much discussed by entheogen scholars]:
Speculated that {stand on right foot} = eternalism-thinking.
https://egodeaththeory.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/salamander-ms-bodl-602-fol-027v-zoom-capture.png [absurd 4MB hi res png?]
That hypothesis was massively confirmed later in Nov. 2020 by Eadwine’s “leg-hanging mushroom tree” image in the Great Canterbury Psalter (image crop uploaded to web by John Lash May 2008, per archive.org).
* 2020 Nov: {branching} and {handedness} art motifs were added starting in 2020, especially via Great Canterbury Psalter; details:
* Nov 2020: folio f134: Eadwine’s leg-hanging mushroom-tree image:
* 2024 Nov: I was brought out of hiatus by recognizing from SPLENDOR SOLIS key mythemes on cover of book signed to me by Jan Irvin in April 2007: AstroSham 1 (2005/2006): {cut right branch}, {stand on right foot}, {hold cut branch}, and soon after, in other version, {Amanitas under tree}, and {bathe in river flowing from tree} & {gateway}:
* 2025 Jan: folio f11 (the famous one): Creation Day 4 mushrooms point to Creation Day 1 {balance scale} pans] – in conjunction with success at the weeks-long project/ pursuit of analyzing left-to-right progressive branching form of mushroom-trees in Creation Day 3: III, IYI, YI, IY/YI:
I am happy and satisfied to “cap” and terminate my art motif breakthrough period w/ that pair of art decodings, in famous folio f11.
Of all the many entheogen scholars looking at this main folio comic page, I am the first to see the rather obvious & explicit ({open book} is included) “mushrooms pointing to balance scale pans”:
Though, I can’t be stopped; the other day, my eyes were opened to perceive the {gateway} motif in “Sacrifice of Isaac” in Great Canterbury Psalter folio f12:
https://egodeaththeory.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/eadwine-sacrifice-of-isaac-2023-02-14.png – must pay toll sacrifice at rock altar with {blade} and {fire}, to pass through the {guarded gate}.
And, in 2025, I finally for first time ever, showcased all 7 Liberty Cap mushroom-trees in Bernard Door & Column, plus, discovered {mushroom hem} & {floating mushroom hem} motifs there, and I assert {Lib Cap roofs} & {mushroom roof toppers} in Bernward metalwork including chandelier.
Only the 7 mushroom-trees:
Doors & Column & Chandelier, all mushroom imagery:
https://egodeaththeory.org/2023/05/27/bernward-doors-and-column-hildesheim/
Example of {mushroom hem} & {floating mushroom hem}: discovered by me:
I continue deepening my ability to read mythemes & art motifs as {mushrooms}, {branching}, {handedness}, and {stability} motifs expressing the experience of psychedelic eternalism.
My summary of eternalism, written w/ Jerry Brown in mind in support of
my “compelling evidence & criteria of proof for identifying mushroom imagery in Christian art” article for him Nov 2020:
My summary of eternalism:
https://egodeaththeory.org/2020/11/12/possibilism-vs-eternalism-2-models-of-time-and-control/
Josie Kins Effect Index entry on eternalism (it is a mix of 30% domino chain determinism (bad) & actual eternalism (good)):
https://egodeaththeory.org/2025/02/18/3-phase-transcendent-possibilism-2-phase-eternalism/#Perception-of-Eternalism – i maybe should make a page about this fx index entry. https://www.effectindex.com/effects/perception-of-eternalism
* 2025: Now, my driving mission, most of all, is to equip Cognitive Scientists to endure and use the altered state, so that they can explore it for Science. That is my defined target audience. If I can provide for their needs, that covers everyone’s needs.
Funny thing, I criticize the book that our church book club is reading, Rise of the Psychonauts, even though my official focused mission — equip Cog Sci for scientific exploration — exactly aligns with (Houot) the author’s concept.
/ end of email to Rick Mar. 12, 2025
Confirmed Minkowski Spacetime Is Emphatically Principled Eternalism – “Absolute 4D Spacetime”, future exists, all times exist, flow of time is illusion
Not stated:
- single future; non-branching possibilities
- 2-level, dependent control

against the word “relativity”, Minkowski retorted “absolute”.
The world is an absolute 4D spacetime block containing worldlines. d/k if he uses the word “block”. Ideally I’d quote the book.
A real four-dimensional world.
Changeless.
Time does not flow. The future exists. All times exist, non-branching.
2021 2nd edition with 2020 content: intro section “march 19, 2020”, less than 5 years ago.
the absolute world – compare Kafei, “the absolute”. d/k if Kafei meant “the absolute” in the exact same sense as the word’s heavy use in this book intro by Vesselin Petkov. But … just as the “coincidence” of:
- 2001 i posted that block-universe eternalism = non-branching, Quantum Mysticism = branching
- 2020 i discovered that non-branching = eternalism, branching imagery in mushroom-trees art = possibilism
that is, my mapping of Physics branching vs non-branching models (spacetime vs. Quantum Mysticism) to the equivalent contrast in art motifs, is not a coincidence – as Josie Kins comment about Effects Index entry “The Perception of Eternalism” wrote that it’s impressive how closely our altered state experiencing matches famous philosophy positions.
It’s impressive how much the contrast between branching vs. non-branching in mushroom-trees art maps exactly to the contrast between non-branching 4D absolute spacetime [i wound not normally employ the word ‘absolute’, it reminds me too much of Kafei’s study of mysticism – but, this book intro absolutely uses the term ‘absolute’ — in some way heavily affirming Kafei —
Per Kafei, 5 g Golden Teacher Is Not High-Dose; 12.5 g Is High Dose
I was off by order of magnitude, in saying that Kafei advocated unnecessarily excessive dosage levels.
Tent. calcs. I am open to 20 g being actual high dose – if 40 g doesn’t give a stronger experience than 20 g.
I will not confidently accuse an advocate of 20 g of overshooting, b/c I am just GUESSING, guesstimating. I might wonder if it’s overshooting, or suspect it is, but, not assert that it is.
I had thought that 5g was “high dose” or “full dose”.
5g is not high dose. 12.5g is high dose.
Def. of hi dose: if you double the amount, little increase in effect. eg:
is 1st-gen entheogen scholarship of
Is 1 g
Golden Teacher
gt
Is 1g Golden Teacher high dose? test: if instead 2g, is there increase in effect? Yes. Therefore 1g is not high dose.
Is 2g Golden Teacher high dose? test: if instead 4g, is there increase in effect? Yes. Therefore 2g is not high dose.
Is 4g Cubensis high dose? test: if instead, 8g, is there increase in effect?
Does 8g give much stronger effect than 4g? Yes.
Therefore 4g is not high dose.
Is 8g Cubensis high dose? test: if instead, 16g, is there increase in effect?
Does 16g give much stronger effect than 8g? Yes.
Therefore 8g is not high dose.
Is 16g Cubensis high dose? test: if instead, 32g, is there increase in effect?
Does 32g give much stronger effect than 16g? No.
Therefore 16g is high dose.
That is the template shape of the calculations. Can try different numbers. That’s how to define “high dose”, the criteria. eg,
Suppose 32 g gives MUCH stronger loose cognition than 16 g.
If so, there’s no way you can defend calling 16g “high dose”.
Cubensis
cube
Below I calc / estimate that 500 ug = high dose blotter = 12.5 g Golden Teacher. Do the calc test:
Is 25 g much stronger than 12.5 g?
No. 25 g is only slightly stronger than 12.5 g.
Therefore, 12.5 g is high-dose.
Template calc; can replace numbers.
Affirming Kafei: CONFIRMED: 5 g dried cubensis is NOT a high dose.
Somewhere in the range 10g-20g is probably high dose, IF doubling to 20 -40 g doesn’t give stronger effect.
subjective characterization: 5 g dried cubensis is like maybe 150 ug blotter. maybe 200.
5g Dried Cubensis ~= 200 ug Blotter
High dose of blotter is 500 ug. Uncertain. That is true if 1000 ug is no stronger than 500 ug.
If 1000 ug is stronger than 500 ug, then 500 ug is not high dose, by this criteria/ definition/ method.
How many grams dried cube Golden Teacher is like 500 ug blotter?
500 ug blotter * (5g dried cubensis / 200 ug blotter) = 500 * 5 / 200 = 12.5 g dried cubensis
500 ug Blotter (high dose) ~= 12.5 g dried cubensis
200 ug blotter is a casual, respectable but modest moderate, safe, non-risky amount, avoiding pushing it.
A little on the wimpy/ conservative side.
200 mics is just enough to almost be a serious amount. That’s not a good reference.
A better fuller experience is 300 ug. Very agreessive is 500 ug.
“250 ug” is not convenient. Blotter unit of 100 mic, 250 is unnatural.
- 100 mic <– casual party background dose, or scholarly focused work.
- 200 mic <– one foot in strong experience, not really pushing at all; fully safe, DABBLING with strong amount. Rock Concert fulfilling amount: strong, but little risk of excessive.
- 300 mic <– pretty strong; fully respectable, but not extreme. A useful amount: in the realm of control instability capability accessed, but not entirely overwhelming. Able to do some things here that not possible w/ merely 200 mic.
- 400 mic <– a relaxed extreme, distinctly less than max.
- 500 mic <– extreme, full, max experience
If we assume the speculative “5 g cube = … for … good enough for a starting point estimate.
Converting Blotter Dosage to Cubensis Dosage
Based on the estimate that 5 g dried Cubensis Golden Teacher = 200 ug blotter. Not re: duration; re: intensity of loose cognition at peak window.
- 100 ug = 2.5 g
- 200 ug = 5 g
- 300 ug = 7.5 g <– useful point of reference: far enough in, to access all the dynamics to some extent; not shortchanged on the higher dynamics.
- 400 ug = 10 g
- 500 ug = 12.5 g
McKenna – I’ve not …. i seems to picture 5g as “high dose”. I believe 5g dried cube (typical obviously; of course a batch can be 10x stronger) – and I do not mean superstrains of cube; I mean
The Egodeath Theory Replaces Perennialism, which Is Confusion and a Failure
The Egodeath theory is a rebuttal of perennialism. Anti mysticism, anti perennialism.
If I thought those approaches had much to offer, I wouldn’t have bothered making my own custom theory of Transcendent Knowledge in 1985, deliberately from the Engineering/STEM department instead of those failed garbled approaches that don’t even try for clear useful explanation.
The Egodeath theory is more like the opposite of perennialism or esotericism.
I read the characteristics of esotericism per Antoine Faivre, and I reject and dislike all of their goals and traits.
Per Jewish mysticism history scholar Moshe Idel, the word ‘perennialism’ is unusable, b/c everyone redefines it.
Perennialism means confusion and is a dead end, failed approach that brings more confusion than clarity.
The Egodeath theory was created because perennialism is a failed approach to explaining providing a useful effective explanatory model of Psilocybin transformation.
I only care about garbled myth to some extent validating the Egodeath theory – the theory of psychedelic eternalism.
Perennialism cannot be validated, because it is an invalid mass of confusion and irrelevance.
I might agree with one or two perennialist assertions by some people, but I reject Perennialism.
Perennialism is a fundamentally broken, failed approach, a problem to be fixed by wholesale replacement of the Perennialist framework by the Egodeath theory instead; the theory of psychedelic eternalism.
Matthew Johnson’s Ethics Violations Complaints Filed Against His Hopkins Team Blocking the 2016 Religious Professionals Study
Email to Rick Mar 11 2025
Travis Kitchens describes Matthew Johnson’s ethics violations accusations against his Hopkins team.
The Most Controversial Paper in the History of Psychedelic Research May Never See the Light of Day: Was the Psychedelic Renaissance Led by Science or Faith?
Kitchens 2025 [subscribers]
https://egodeaththeory.org/2023/01/15/the-theory-of-psychedelic-eternalism-provides-a-scientific-explanatory-basis-for-mystic-state-experiencing/#Most-Controversial-Paper
[excerpts condensed]
“Hopkins/NYU Griffiths’ experiment gave psilocybin to 24 religious professionals 2 times —Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, and Muslim
clergy.
What happened is a mystery, as the paper has yet
to be released.
A controversy was growing in Griffiths’ lab that threatened to derail the
psychedelic renaissance.
The accusations centered on alleged misconduct involving the religious professionals study.
March 2024, New York Times published an exposé that called the study’s integrity into question.
The article drew on two ethics complaints filed by a former protégé,
psychologist Matthew Johnson whom Griffiths had groomed to be his replacement.
Griffiths, Johnson said, had been running his research lab less like a laboratory and more like a new-age retreat center, recommending spiritual literature to volunteers and allowing politically aligned funders to work directly on studies.
Funders were also paying for projects aimed at introducing various religious communities to hallucinogens.
The line between research and advocacy had disappeared.
Johnson accused Griffiths of infusing his research with his own spiritual beliefs and agenda of spreading the use of psychedelics.
This created a cult-like atmosphere.
Publishing the religious professionals study was put on permanent hiatus.
Information emerged about Griffiths and other researchers, a plan to revitalize Christianity by incorporating a psychedelic sacrament.
The renaissance of psychedelic studies: Are the researchers guided by
science, religion, or a combination?”
“Perennialism appeals to psychedelic enthusiasts.
Perennialism says one can tap into the same universal Truth known to mystics of all ages, by taking a drug, with no need for institutional religion.
Not everyone involved with the study holds such beliefs.
Johnson, the former protégé who filed the ethics complaints, thinks the findings have been exaggerated and taken out of context.
Some people want to see the results as validating the Perennial Philosophy, but it can’t.”
Moving Past Mysticism AND Materialism: Psychedelic Eternalism
The Psychedelic Renaissance[TM] is DEAD, done, died, imploded.
Griffiths died of cancer. The famous core people left the Hopkins team. It’s history/toast.
I inspected their Mystical Experience Questionnaire (MEQ) and the Challenging Experience Questionnaire (CEQ) – verdict: garbage, junk science, b/c based on a totally fantasy-based imagining of the scope of mystical experience:
Stace 1960, unicorns farting rainbows – as real as the Amanita fantasy, bad [in some ways] entheogen scholarship v1 (1st Gen) from John Allegro and from Carl Ruck Committee, which puts 100x as much emphasis on Secret/ Suppressed (so exciting and titillating!) as on actual psychedelics.
Citations about the “Moving Past Mysticism” fight/debate within Psychedelic Science; the Mysticism Wars within Psychedelic Science:
Moving Past Mysticism: Theory of Psychedelic Eternalism Provides Scientific Basis, Superseding “Mysticism, Meditation, & Psychotherapy” Framework
Matthew Johnson and Chris Letheby lean way too far to hardcore materialist naturalism, and the alternative is as bad: the flakiest possible mysticism woo that you can possibly imagine.
Bifurcated into two entirely irrelevant false dilemma options.
I reject the whole buffet of all their options.
“Salvation” = “Save me from Heimarmene”
& “Save me from Control Instability” yet Still Give Me Full Grasp and Satisfaction of Demonstrating Non-control/ the Vulnerability that Gives New Life
Proof/Further Corroboration of my 2001 post saying “Quantum Mysticism = branching freewill model; block-universe determinism = non-branching, no-free-will model”
todo: gather passages that associate:
- block-universe determinism of the iron block view of 1800s-era either a 4th spatial dim or time as a 4th dim, as a kind of mysticism POV that is characterized by non-branching.
- Quantum Mysticism = worship of branching + egoic control autonomy.
https://www.google.com/search?q=branching+%22quantum+physics%22
King/Sage in Bed = Wood Lover’s Paralysis
7:30 pm Mar 10 2025
broaden the idea of paralysis to include the deep energy-drained feeling of loose cognition; ASC lethargy & paralysis.
todo for lazy starting point when you’d rather be lying in bed: list all folios that include a bed.
- fn
- f(n)
- woman in bed giving birth = Bern Door right door = you with WLP thinking of new model of personal control system
- = New Testament verses about {paralyzed} guy who Christ makes walk.
tweaking the title of the 2nd article for the Journal of Psychedelic Studies : “2nd-gen entheogen scholarship” — 2nd-gen entheogen scholarship , 2nd-generation entheogen scholarship (the Explicit Psilocybin paradigm)
darn it, i can’t even find a measly MENTION of the todo task of gathering the Great Canterbury Psalter images of the frequent motif
{sage|king sitting upright in bed holding scroll from God|Jesus}
I’ve been putting off gathering those images , a list of them, for a couple years — with a weak record of even wanting to / needing to gather that motif.
“bed” is SUPPOSED to be listed here:
https://egodeaththeory.org/2023/06/11/eadwine-images-in-great-canterbury-psalter-commentary-interpretation/#motifs
10:10 pm mar 10 2025 enjoying p 74 Lundborg book – Dee, two sides of esoterica:
Magic Is the Opposite of Mysticism
Scholars claim that magic = active control; mysticism = passive reception.
My editor view has great 1970-era font for headings… really the body text too. Magic font in WordPress editing mode.
- MAGIC: occult magic manipulation I AM THE PUPPETMASTER emoji muscle arm, i am the uncontrollable source of control-thoughts
vs. - MYSTIC – passive receptive female MYSTIC – I am the the helpless thought-receiver
I was surprised that my church library is so astute as to have Lundborg book 2012 albeit MERELY IN PAPERBACK – weak lack of commitment, you are a bad person, a poser at Transcendent Knowledge.
What kind of b.s. phony amateur hack “library” is this, paperback? that’s like Stang, Dean of Harvard, writing a paper that gives dollar price & Kindle references! oh the folly! what an embarrassment Stang is signing his name to that BAD WRITING
The hardcover printing of Lund book is pretty huge. 520 pages. The trick is: his lame TOC only gives hcater chapter page #s but he does give sections of ch’s – you MUST —
TIP: IN Lundborg’s TOC, NUMBER THE SECTION HEADINGS, THEN FIND THAT NUMBER AS HEADING WITHIN THE CHAPTER’S PAGEs.
I posted the best archive url for the best Index of the Patrick Lundborg 2012 book.
I have that printed.
I have to give my inferior printing of Index to the poser paperback book in my church library.
the earlier inferior index has sequence: numbers then alpha letters.
the superior later index: spell out the names of the numbers entreis, then move those into the letter section.
quote p 75: DEE REPRESENTS THE ESOTERIC, NON-MYSTIC [!] SIDE OF LATE RENAISSANCE SPIRITUALITY [that SO reminds be o me of the bogus a.f. contrast made by Studerus in the 11-factors article, “NON PLEASANT = NON MYSTICAL” –
garbage Mystical Experience Questionnaire (MEQ)
garbage Challenging Experience Questionnaire (CEQ)
exercises in fool assertion “non pleasant = non mystical”, with Studerus & Walter …. come on end-of-day brain stretched — Stace 1960.
Citation: Studerus 11-Factors article, p. 1: “non pleasant, therefore non mystical”
Stace 1960 = Fool.
Studerus 2011 = Fool.
Psychedelic Science from Griftiths = Fool — b/c with a straight face, these publications cite Stace 1960 as the Foundation of their “Science” 🤦♂️ (even though OAV 1994 got it right)
The essence of mystical experience is stand outside the egoic personal control system and make it fail; observe the external mystery source of control thoughts. Marriage from higher POV.
all of this is entirely over the head of Stace 1960, and so Leary/Pahnke 1963, and so on., TERMINATING in the 2016 UNPUBLISHABLE STUDY from Hopkins. Folly.
Phil dept, Letheby, to the rescue, offering 1 options of bunk buffet consisting of 8 brands of irrelevant materialism or irrelevant mystic fantasy.
Academic Philosophy Dept. Chris Letheby to the Rescue (got up late after dorm room trip), offering his Bunk Buffet of 8 brands of irrelevant materialism or irrelevant mystic fantasy
OAV is perfect, compared to MEQ+CEQ. OAV is not based on Stace 1960 AFAIK. MEQ claims Stace as its Science foundation. OAV does not.
I am unfair: I assign the malformed CEQ to the MEQ lineage. the Challenging Experience Questionnaire (CEQ) claims to be a superset of neg items from the 3 pop q’airs, HRS, SOCQ aka MEQ; & OAV
In CEQ or 11F article, they keep saying “5DASC”, but they draw from 11F version of that, which is warmed-over unneeded version of OAV.
Oops , Griftiths misread 11F, accidentally omitted 8 of 21 Angst effects, oh well — better get rid of 10 more psychedelic Dread/Angst effects, so only 3 of 21 are left.
I’m sure that the article about CEQ explains WHY SPECIFICALLY AND CLEARLY IN PLAIN ENGLISH NOT HIDING BEHIND FAKE MATH, DID WE OMIT 18 OF 21 CHALLENGING EFFECTS?
We got rid of nearly all of the psychedelic-type challenging effects, because they didn’t fit our narrow categories; those effects were too broad, too powerful, so we had to omit them “for precision” to fit our fabricated VALIDATED FACTORS that the Marketing dept directed, when they took over in Phase 2 of concocting the q’air from Hell, CEQ. Good job boys, keep cutting away and sculpting! Good Grief! 🤑💰
I am pro moneymaking, anti make-sh!t-up. Selling a NEUTERED PSYCHEDELIC EFFECTS map. Houot awesome dissertation point: 39% freakouts in hihgh dose 30mg subjects. Magically gamed down to 30% (silently) in the later article i had analyzed. i confirmed his citation. Math = Magic.
HOW DID GRIFFITHS GET FROM 39% FREAKOUTS TO 30%? Crickets.
Its validated! Like gas “validates” beans.
Forget 5D-ASC; forget 11-Factors; I go directly to OAV 1994; skip 5D’s added JUNK dimensions no one cares about, and skip 11F which ADDS CONFUSION – oops forgot 8 Angst effects, hidden in neither of the sparkly “factors” Impaired Control & Cognition [why is that 1 factor, not two????] or the Anx anxiety factor. stick them in Shadow Factor 13.
too powerful and broad to fit into our factors, so, demote them to “ignore” neverland, no mans land outside of any “factor”, they are high level effects that can thus be overllooked; too big to perceive, Q 54, I WAS AFRAID TO LOSE MY SELF CONTROL –
i don’t see 54, its not in ANX factor, its not in ICC factor, so, ignore. forget. overlook. omit. delete. nix. nevermind.
Thus is the birth Phase 1 of fabricating the CEQ q’air from Hell — and then the Marketing dept got ahold of it:
“Good job boys getting rid of, domesticating, neutering, keep it up, just keep the wimpiest 3 of the 21, good to go 👍” CUT, CUT, DISCARD, DISCARD, CHOP, get rid, omit…
How to Train Your Dragon: Ignore 18 of 21 Teeth
We didn’t get rid of ALL of the psychedelic Dread effects; we kept 3 of 21! That’s why our q-air is way more comprehensive than OAV & HRS & SOCQ put together! [citation: bragging in p. 1 of CEQ article]
site map https://egodeaththeory.org/nav/#Psychedelics-Questionnaires
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Our Scientific Proof is: Mysticism = 🦄💨🌈
Studerus the fool cites Stace the fool as “the science foundation”
but Erik Davis quips w/ key word “vouchsafed”: over half a century OUTDATED, ie, Disproved B S: Disproved B S,
like I have disproved 1st-gen entheogen scholarship as B S FOOLISHNESS – “We care so much about safety protocols, that we make Walter Stace 1960 the Clown our “foundation” of our “science”.
We care so much about safety protocols in our Psychedelic Science, that we make Walter “Unicorns Farting Rainbows” Stace 1960 the foundation of our esteemed Science. You’re in good fantasy hands with the Griffiths team: Science on a solid basis of fantasy and wish-projection.
Daily reminder & reality check:
CEQ omits 18 of 21 items from the DED dimension — while somehow at the same time, bragging about being more comprehensive than the existing q’airs.
Now the team cannot publish their long-awaited synth Psilocybin religious professionals 2016 study in 2025.
McPriest’s article dismissing AND REFUSING TO ENGAGE THE TOPIC OF HISTORY OF PSYCHEDELICS IN Christianity. They mock it as “Allegro’s been debunked!”
Journal of Psychedelic Studies editor Michael Winkelman editor and Brown yell repeatedly at McPriest to pay attention of history of psychedelic in Europe Christendom, and McPriest just replies lamely: “Allegro’s been debunked.”
McPriest and MICA Deniers draw all attention to the most ridiculous errors and backwards (tail wagging the dog) HYPE by Allegro & Ruck “Dancing Man mushroom has a red cap”, who care about SECRET, above all, and merely abuse psychedelics to support their social drama incoherent narrative of “secret” barrier construction project.
Ruck Committee makes it so easy to dismiss entheogen scholarship , by their misplaced upside-down emphasis on Ruck’s hyped, all-driving narrative of “secret, that Letcher ridicules on p. 35 of 2006 Shroom:
“Various writers have suggested cult, secretly, oppression, hidden, secret cult, surreptitiously slipped in. But Ruck cannot possibly neutralize, as he ALWAYS rushes to do, Bernward Door’s Liberty Cap mushroom-tree as secret. So, Ruck’s entire entheogen scholarship is disproved.”
Bernward is actually a set of 7 mushroom-trees, along with {mushroom hem} , {floating mushroom hem}, etc, but who’s counting?
Not Letcher, b/c he only needs a single instance that Ruck CANNOT neutralize and frame as “secret heretical cults”, to blow up the whole fkkiong malformed field of entheogen scholarship per 1st-generation entheogen scholarship (the Secret Amanita paradigm).
The Secret tail wags the Psychedelics dog.
Letcher actually only needs to count to 1! Then watch 1st-gen entheogen scholarship come crashing down.
The secret scholarship, disproved by a single instance b/c that’s all it takes.
Don’t criticize Letcher for failing to treat more than a single instance; applaud Letcher for correctly realizing that he only needs a single instance, of non-secret mushroom imagery in Christian art , to disprove entheogen scholarship — that is, v1 of entheogen scholarship, which was based on the “Secret/ Suppressed social group” fundamental premise as its very basis and core theory.
Ruck Committee: The “Secret” Tail Wags the Psychedelics Dog, as Letcher Attacked Successfully and Efficiently
Except Letcher colossally botched the fake endnote 31 on p. 35.
Letcher did not demolish entheogen scholarship; he demolished 1st-gen entheogen scholarship, efficiently w single slingshot he downed Goliath of Graves, Wasson, Allegro, and Ruck.
1g = The “secrecy first, psychedelics last” approach.
Such a flimsy incohernet scenario, Ruck can’t even handle a heretic individual; Ruck has to always fabricate out of thin air: the moment a person ingested Amanita, that person became, according to Pope Ruck (hiding behind his phrase ‘so called’ in all 3 print issues of Entheos) a “member of a heretical cult”.
bc Ruck has to prevent Amanita from being used by individuals mixing in w/ the great mass group of all of christendom.
Ruck’s narrative DEPENDS on reifying perpetual Prohibition. If we remove Prohibition, Ruck’s entire cobbled social drama narrative comes crashing down.
The Ruck model cannot handle a single instance of mushroom imagery in Christian art that is not cordoned off, that’s not secret and hidden, but is in the great mass of Christendom.
All of Ruck’s effort is consumed in a frame-attaching project, hasten to wrap and imprison every instance of mushroom imagery in Christian art, within a barrier called “heretical sects”. Or 1-2 elites.
Their values-backwards construction: “our passion is Secret; our end is Secret; our means is Psychedelic.”
“The topic of psychedelics is merely to serve the purpose of our agenda: ritual telling of our social drama narrative about ‘secret’ and ‘suppressed’.”
Ruck Committee’s model cannot permit “The Mushroom” (a corny b/c confusion-soaked construction) to freely be used by individuals who are mixed in throughout the great mass of society in Christendom.
Ruck Committee’s model cannot permit mushrooms to freely be used by individuals who are mixed in throughout the great mass of society in Christendom.
Drug Warriors have a poster of Carl Accommodate Prohibition Ruck, their best supporter, bard of perpetual prohibition of The Mushroom; our holy sacred Amanita, which is FAR better than any mere psychedelic.
Amanita is a SUPER PSYCHEDELIC, it is the UBER psychedelic — on the dream fantasy myth plane.
Letcher holds up for ridicule entheogen scholarship (1st-gen version): “Various writers have suggested cult, secretly, oppression, hidden, secret cult, surreptitiously slipped in – such as Gartz & Samorini.”
[sic; actually Allegro & Ruck, based on Graves & Wasson’s tabu theory confusions.]
The ancients do in fact overhype ‘secret’ and ‘hidden’ – that does not make it ok for Graves, Wasson, Allegro, and Ruck to overhype ‘secret’ and ‘hidden’; and so Letcher cashed in on their folly.
Letcher in 2006 revealed their folly; their narrative cannot stand up, and desperate Ruck cannot possibly frame Bernward Door as secret and hidden, try as he might.
Letcher demolished Ruck’s whole incoherent social drama narrative that’s the tail wagging the dog of psychedelic history.
Psychedelic History Must Be Driven by Psychedelics, Not by “Secret”
Psychedelic History Must Be Driven by Psilocybin, not by Amanita
Despite the ancients over-hyping Amanita — which is the supreme symbol of Psilocybin.
Against Heinrich book, Rev 10 eating scroll does not give vision of tree of life as 13 Amanitas; Rev 22 gives tree of life as 13 different manners of fruits crops each month.
Or per Bennett, 12 different uses of Hemp – please ignore what Rev 22 says, while Bennett quotes it, and says 12 different manners of fruits crops means 12 uses of Hemp/Cannabis. fruits = uses.
12 plants thus becomes 12 uses of 1 plant — that’s truly the single-plant fallacy.
Psychedelic History Must Be Driven by Concern with Psychedelics, No Longer Driven by Concern with “Secret”
Psychedelic history must be driven by psychedelics, not by “secret”.
Ancients overplayed “secret”. Allegro and Ruck (& Graves & Wasson) are in error for focusing on ‘secret’.
Ancients overplayed “transformation from eternalism to possibilism”, which is a strained, forced, unnatural, reversal of the truth of how the mind works when immersed in Psilocybin loose cognition.
Wouter Hanegraaff is in error for letting himself be played by ancient hermeticists, he so badly wants to say that Psilocybin transformation is mainly from eternalism to possibilism – which is FALSE.
Psilocybin transformation is mainly from possibilism to eternalism. And the ancient hermeticists KNEW that; they crafted their inverted-valuation myth within that boundary of constraint.
They did not exceed the limits of telling a tale of transformation from eternalism to possibilism.
Wouter Hanegraaff cites them, but on next page, mis-states what he just quoted.
As Wouter Hanegraaff says (by my reading), scientific academic historiography must not be based in myth. It is a study OF myth, not based IN myth.
Psychedelic History must be Driven by Psychedelics, not Driven by the “Secret, Suppression” Social Drama Narrative that Letcher Rightly Holds up for Ridicule
Ruck Has It Exactly Backwards, and as a Result, Was Disproved; Discard 1st-Gen Entheogen Scholarship & Salvage from Its Post-Letcher Wreckage
FFS, psychedelic history must be driven by psychedelics, NOT “secret”; actual psychedelics, meaning Psilocybin, not Datura, not cannabis, not Amanita —
world-ubiq Psilocybin that grew all over Europe and England and was used by our ancestors in peak full potential in heyday Medieval as we have received the proof that the mushroom-tree artists Eadwine carefully crafted their unambiguous emphatic explicit message of psychedelic eternalism.
The mushroom-tree artists, especially Eadwine, especially via the {branching} motif in Great Canterbury Psalter, carefully crafted their unambiguous, emphatic, explicit message of psychedelic eternalism.
Irvin 2008 chastises Ruck Committee along same lines, in The Holy Mushroom: Irvin emphasizes that Ruck Committee cannot possibly frame the Plaincourault fresco as “heretical sects”.
Ruck Committee cannot get away with TRYING TO RESTRICT psychedelics to just “heretical sects and Christian mysticism”, or, per Ruck’s other incoherent kettle-logic tale, trying to restrict The Mushroom to only 1-2 elites.
“So titillating, so exciting, the word ‘secret'” – GTFO, immature, peurile: Ruck Committee sells as titillating and exciting, this protagonist cults fantasy framing.
The ancients pushed this “secret” motif way too much, and Ruck plays right into it to the MAX.
LOVES ‘secret’ and ‘hidden’ – and Letcher 2006 and Irvin 2008 called out Ruck on this.
Tail wagging the dog.
WE are here for psychedelics, but Ruck Committee is here for SECRET, instead.
Ruck Committee’s narrative that drives & motivates their entheogen scholarship DOES NOT WORK.
Carl Accomodate Prohibition Ruck
Samorini – who he falsely cites as “Various writers have suggested cult, secretly, oppression, hidden, secret cult, surreptitiously slipped in ” — in 1998 and then Conj Eden 2001 and then me in 2002, flourished 2007 (my main article, w/ art w/ great branching motif not yet recog’d), are 2nd-generation entheogen scholarship (the Explicit Psilocybin paradigm).
Entheogen scholarship abused as barrier construction prject to perpetuate Psilocybin Prohibition.
1st-generation entheogen scholarship (the Secret Amanita paradigm)
Their puerile social drama narrative is the tail wagging the Psilocybin dog.
The mid 2024 special issue on Psychedelic Christianity.
https://egodeaththeory.org/2023/04/09/journal-of-psychedelic-studies/#8-2
Psychedelic Pseudo Science Cannot Publish their 2016 Religious Professionals Study
(and Deletes 18 of 21 Dread Effects without Explanation)
Psychedelic Pseudo Science is such a joke, that they cannot publish their 2016 findings about religious professionals, and their q-air from Hell, CEQ, omits 18 of 21 Angst effects — while bragging about most comprehensive. Who’s laughing now 😐
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22beware+of+dragon%22 – some good signs – i prefer {fire} breathing, with {blade} claws & teeth.
Our sign has smooth rounded corners for your safety.
Neutered Psychedelic “Science” = Do Not Color Outside the Lines of Stace 1960 “Positive-Balanced” Model of “mystical experience” [Beware of Dragon, gate guard]
Safe-for-Hopkins, neutered Pyschedelic “Science” = Do Not Color Outside the Lines of Stace Positive-Balanced Model of “mystical experience” – moot after the ethics complaints, by Matt “Lose the Budda Statue” Johnson.
Tim Leary’s MEQ & CEQ have crashed and burned as the 1-sided junk that they are. Citation: Pollan HOw chang emind: he was unable to answer the M E Q items, b/c they are framed the opposite of his horriying expewrince of timeless embeddeness.
Pollan reports that the M E Q (based on Staceanism, while claiming to be based on Mysticism) wildly contradicts his experience.
Dittrich’s OAV 1994 is an actual, serious instrument.
I have to talk make voice recording – the great IRONY — the entire purpose of the Challenging Experience Questionnaire (CEQ) is to catch the mystic failures of MEQ –
Cosmic irony: The CEQ has the same gigantic blind spot of the MEQ! it’s just the same 1-sided blindness, repeated in regress!
Repeat the same error: omit the sort of “unpleasant”, shocking, amazing, TERRIFIC AWE of mind’s potential to step outside of the egoic personal control system and trip it up from Dionysus’ higher vantage point above King Pentheus steering in tree disguised as a woman (that’s YOU). Get rid of all that, and sell it as “Science” – Non-P De-Psychedelicized Psychedelic Science
the sort of “unpleasant”, shocking, amazing, TERRIFIC AWE of mind’s potential to step outside of the egoic personal control system and trip it up from Dionysus’ higher vantage point above King Pentheus steering in tree
Hopkins’ De-Psychedelicized Psychedelic Science
Hopkins Sells Bunk Product, De-Psychedelicized Psychedelic Science: Grief Therapy, with the Psychedelic-Specific Character Omitted [same club of clowns who cannot publish the “long awaited” 2016 study of religious professionals on synth Psilocybin, b/c the ethics complaints – THE BETRAYAL FROM WITHIN THE COURT OF JESTERS!]
more manic lol from me
I typed B S, but got {balance scale}, — darn keyboard shortcut, I meant to cuss. DRATS! FOILED AGAIN by the mytheme motif.
The Fool’s Ballad of psychedelic pseudo science: Stace the Clown
you think Hatsis is notorious for insults? I call upon the spirit / genius of Hatsis, greatest historian EVAR, to insult and ridicule:
100% Ridicule of Walter Stace BUNK Model of “mystical experience”; Stace the Clown = “Psychedelic Science“
We Scientists at Griffiths Inc. are SO concerned with safety, that we make 1960 Stace-the-Clown’s theory of “mystical experience” the basis of our “Scientific” model of the Psychedelic Effects, and Seriously Cite Stace as Our Solid Authority on the Nature & Character of Mystical Experience
Our MEQ from Leary — foisted as if from Walter __ is B S but don’t worry, says Grifteths to Stang, we made-up the CEQ as Our Fallback Trashcan to catch the mystic failures; our backup scheme is provided by the Challenging Experience Questionnaire (CEQ) — whoops but never mind, b/c IT TOO, has the SAME GIANT GAP: the {shadow dragon monster} blind spot.
How come both our positive, Mystical Experience Questionnaire (MEQ) and our negative, Challenging Experience Questionnaire (CEQ) both have the same gigagtic faliure gap?
ie, the {shadow dragon monster} chronic panic mystic-failure response of 39% of our high-dose 30mg test subjects?? —
then he looks w/ suspicion at culprit: Hopkins Marketing Dept.
Erik Davis quips: safety-first psychedelic “Science” — that’s “vouchsafed on research that’s half a century out of date.“
Cue Alan Watts’ Buddha zen enlightenment satori laugh eruption: laughing at the foolishness of Studerus citing Stace as the foundation of the science of psychedelics, when Stace is entirely wrong about his Pollyanna bunk model misconception of mystical experience.
Children’s literature classic:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollyanna
Griffiths tells Stang w/ a straight face, on video at Harvard & YouTube:
“Our Mystical Experience Questionnaire (MEQ) is positive-balanced“
just like “non-drug entheogens”
Good: I need MATERIAL FOR MY STAND UP COMEDY show routine, which is all motivated by my ultimate motivation: to test microphones & mic techniques.
{shadow dragon monster}
sdm
the {shadow dragon monster} blind spot, a CHRONIC HABITUAL BLIND SPOT OF EGOIC THINKING demostrated not by OAV model, but by inferior, the Mystical Experience Questionnaire (MEQ) model / lineage which TIMOTHY LEARY made up.
I blame Leary as the author of the the Mystical Experience Questionnaire (MEQ) and its ridiculous offshoots, the Challenging Experience Questionnaire (CEQ)) , pretending that Walter Pahhnke made it up.
Leary made it up, but even Leary has a more negative-balanced model of mystical experience than Stace or Hopkins Corp. or Griftiths.
OAV is 99% good model of Angst, dread of ego diss.
The Mystical Experience Questionnaire (MEQ) & its broken patch, the Challenging Experience Questionnaire (CEQ) , is 1% valid.
The CEQ is the broken wastebasket to catch the failures of the MEQ.
OAV blows away the Mystical Experience Questionnaire (MEQ).
OAV 1994 is a way better model than the Mystical Experience Questionnaire (MEQ) … the ever- vanishing, MEQ143 begat MEQ42 begat MEQ30 or whatever the counts – Yaldaboath, all of them, a MONSTROSITY/ travesty OF “SCIENCE”!
Unapproved by Christ the {male} thought inserter.
They make, “heaven forfend!”, a mockery of Science.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaldabaoth
the phrase I was looking for earlier: “heaven forfend!” define forfend
https://www.google.com/search?q=define+forfend = AVERT
The biggest danger in Psychedelic Science is its false basis of Stace 1960’s LUDICROUS “positive balanced” 1-sided model of mystical experience, Pollyanna
The advocates (who are the Enterprise called out by Forte Robert] — the phony top-down fake Psych Renaiss astroturf overly well funded: “we want Psychedelic Science to be SAFETY-FIRST.
YET, they make the bunk Stace model , “positive-balanced”, of their much-ballyhooed Psychedelic RenaissanceTM, the basis of their Science.
The Egodeath theory GIVES you what Stace ROBS you of: the amazing potential to stand OU STAND OUTSIDE THE EGOIC PERSONAL CONTROL SYSTEM AND MAKE IT FAIL.
See youtube vids: game models of train explosions, yay!
Celebrate like Abraham hwo has discovered how to make his Isaac childish personal control system fail, and thereby show his grasp of Transcendent Knowledge ie psychedelic eternalism.
The Egodeath theory = the theory of psychedelic eternalism
April 1987 I would have written on binder sheet: [TOPE]
The theory of psychedelic eternalism = learning how to demonstrate failure gap vulneratbility of child Issac thinking.
The lower, donkey following the path (look down, perceiving the egoic personal control system from outside), vs. the higher, rider, Psilocybin awareness. image: Golden Psalter: Entry into Jerusalem.
God Help Me; Save Me; Heaven Forfend = I Beg to Avert the Profound Attractive Threat that I Cannot Avoid Seeing
GOD HELP US! SAVE US [“heaven forfend” = “i beg you to avert the profound attractictive [rush mp3 ‘addict of subtraction’] threat that I cannot avoid seeing”] FROM PHONY “SCIENCE”, PSYCHEDELIC PSEUDO SCIENCE BASED ON FOOL STACE’s 1960 MODEL OF MYSTICAL EXPERIENCE
Odysseus lashed to the mast attracted by the sirens song please demonstrate the control vulnerabiity sacred gateway to Heaven realm to eat from tree of life
Rev 22 Gets the Last Word, but angel thinking says, nah, you need to have a future, to give honor to the higher controller to give .. to express Transcendent Knowledge you must think about demonstrating {blade}ing of, {fire}ing of, Isaac child thinking.
Recipe for Transcendent Knowledge: Immerse Mental model in threat potential of {fire} {blade} for 12 Hours or Until Completion of Initiation and {Phoenix} is produced
After you violate God’s prohibition of going threre 10 times, 10 times using mushroom , then after that, you have washed robe, so NOW it’s ok to have eat from the tree that you did ten times in order to wash your robe [a circuar ironic injunction, is Rev 22:14].
Rev 22:14
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev%2022%3A14&version=KJV,NIV
You need both NIV & KJB to comprehend the joke that is the last word, BIBLE HAS THE LAST LAUGH.
Esotericism is a joke.
I posted such books since 2001. amazon, and the comic strip the Witt Door. Wittenburg Door comic strip Bible eso esotericism = Alan Watt’s laugh: the result of satori is Buddha belly laugh at your folly of no-free-will based freewill thinking
The folly of “the #1 concern of Psychedelic Science is Safety, so we build our Science on the foundation of Stace’s positive-balanced model of mystical experience.
DO NOT WORRY, HAVE NO FEARE, if you are a mystic-experience failure, we have the C E Q to catch you – which has the SAME gigantic monster-shaped hole as our M E Q from JOKER TIMOTHY LEARY pretending to be Walter Pahnke who made the MEQ143.
1964: the Mystical Experience Questionnaire (MEQ) 163 – numbers are more reliable in my Ref page about q-airs.
1990: the Mystical Experience Questionnaire (MEQ) 43
2006: the Mystical Experience Questionnaire (MEQ) 30
2016 the year Matt Johnson sues — the Mystical Experience Questionnaire (MEQ) 16 [i am joking about bizarrely shrinking # of “items”] –
EVERY YEAR, Psilocybin HAS FEWER EFFECTS, SO HAVE WE HAVE TO SHRINK OUR LEARY-INHERITED Mystical Experience Questionnaire (MEQ) EVEN MORE.
2020: the Mystical Experience Questionnaire (MEQ) 8
2025: PERFECTION IS REACHED: MEQ0; just hand over your wallet to Hopkins dammit, this is a stick-up by psychedelic pseudo science
Announcing the MEQ0 — Perfection Has Been Reached, the Perfect Questionnaire: Shut Up and Have a Mystical Experience[TM] per Stace “Positive-Balanced” Mysticism Model
In the grocery yesterday Sunday mar 9 2025 after church, super enjoyable trip to church (which i told host) & also back – i have to bug my host and exclaim again afterwards to him.
Bicycle Ride from Heaven
in grocery yesterday mar 9 2025, a manic Dionysiac guy obv drugged, overenthusaistic came blasting thru the store, they had to throw him out.
He begged them … i am try to recall…. to … what was his plea?
I was equally hyper enthusiastic, I have to have head checked for so enjoying the day beforehand. MANIC MENTAL ILLNESS.
TOO HAPPY = MENTALLY SICK, NEEDS REPAIR.
What a pleasant bicycle ride there & back yesterday!!!
The technology gear really came together. It was so pleasant! Blew me away. I had purchased and tested, but not yet used, this combination of tech equipment.
Symptom: Enthusiasm. Prescription: Sedate
My bike mechanic: joyous combination of his gear.
A friend finally showed me movie where bike guy has girl mechanic. actor died. Stupid movies. I never care — Pee Wee’s Big Adventure.
My autism superpower: IDGAF about social drama narrative, so I am better at spot the mushroom game.
The Autism Army chant: “Give us back our Aspergers, DSM! We Never Forget”
My ride back from church: noisy wind blowing rain toward me, but not really rain til much later. cloud, wind, super pleasant.
Then after talking about athletics and bike gear w/ my DJ gear sales engineer in warm shelter, I went back to the grocery w/ proper shopping gear.
Then they had to evict the manic street drug guy, too happy. He was God in disguise, but we kicked him out for being too loud in his enthusiasm.
😄🔬🔍🧐🤨💉
Let me explain my three jokes. My laughter in this paragraph is not about the joke in the previous WordPress “block” ; do not mix up which of my LOLs is re: which of my jokes in this vicinity.
Wouter Hanegraaff cannot & Ronald Huggins cannot figure out “wha happened to my imperishable Salamander??”
in the peak window, not act out “loss of control”. rather, have comprehension of the vulnerabliity. = picture, “sacr of isaac but angel holds blade back” — cook for 12 hours or until done, the salamander recipe {fire} {blade} = cooking time to transformation from possibilism to eternalism
[ i am just cycling through my jokes / insults that i previously posted)
the {shadow dragon monster} gigantic blind spot vulnerability in so-called “Psychedelic Science”
sdmbs
the pre-Science phase of psychedelic pseudo science
the pre-paradigm phase per Kuhn’s model ie there is no “old theory” that my “new theory” replaces. the Egodeath theory is the first THEORY, properly speaking.
the theory of psychedelic eternalism
tope
image: Hatsis in banana suit photo cover of his Roller Derby handbook. get from “Brown Publications” my page.
clown emoji [pollyanna’s model of mystical experience] meets hungry dragon emoji
Griffiths:
“Our #1 Concern is Psychedelic safety.”
Yet, also Griffiths:
“So, we make Stace 1960 the cited foundation of our Science.”
My citation: see LUDICROUS citation by Studerus, p 1 of the 11 Factors article.
The foolishness of citing Stace as the foundation basis of our “science”.
Stace, who says “mystical experience = unicorns farting rainbows”.
“non-mystical because non-pleasant.”
The Foundation of Our Safety-First Psychedelic Science: The “Unicorns Farting Rainbows” Model of Mystical Experience – approved by Hopkins Marketing Dept.
How come a queue has already formed, of hungry dragons eager for the result?
Meanwhile, Ethics Violations Complaints from Matthew “Lose the Buddha Statue AND I AM NOT CLOWNING!” Johnson
wonder why the delay on the 2016 study of religious professionals?? trouble in Psychedelic Pseudoscienceland.
Trouble in Psychedelic Pseudoscienceland
Pick a Side: The Mysticism of a Fool, or the Scientistic Materialism of a Fool.
See dorm room Phil dept rep, Chris Letheby for a guide to 8 flavors of trash materialism + 8 flavors of trash “mystm” – his buffet of folly , his single wrong option straight from the OSC academic Phil dept and attached dorm room trippers Letheby who by night, trips and fervently asserts “only mind exists”, and then by day publishes papers in LEARNED, LEARNED journals ridiculing, saying instead, “only matter exists”.
Motifs Yet to Inventory in Great Canterbury Psalter: {bed}
- king/sage in bed; {sage|king sitting upright in bed holding scroll from God|Jesus}
Miking Notes: Mic Change: From Center Mic e-v 653A “omni” ie no proxy mud, to Shure SM57
Mar 9 2025 I switched from 635A to SM57. pm of Mar 9, I moved 57 to be 45-60 deg. turned, b/c fav orientation/position has max buzz. 635A has no buzz at any angle.
To get familiar w/ resp curve 57 given my more recent expertise of miking, I’m – for a change – doing 8″ not 2″ (when noise envir) or 24″ (when quiet envir).
And, two forms of 8″:
- mic stand 45 deg. 8″
- handheld lazy arm 8″ moving around doing entheogen scholarship standup comedy routine b/c 1st-gen entheogen scholarship is a joke as the MICA Deniers say and ridicule.
MISSION:
START SAMO’S 1998 2ND-GEN ENTHEOGEN SCHOLARSHIP, TO NOT DESERVE RIGHTFUL RIDICULE LIKE 1ST-GEN ENTHEOGEN SCHOLARSHIP FELL TO & FAILED.
Mean Andy Letcher killed off 1st-gen entheogen scholarship with a single blow of his slingshot, Bern Door 1 isolated instance of Liberty Cap mushroom-tree.
He mocked to death, 1st-gen entheogen scholarship.
Letcher held up for ridicule, like Ruck “the Dancing Man salamander bestiary’s mushroom-tree is red cap”.
Letcher p. 35 endnote 31 bizarrely and sloppily mis-attributed Bern Door “secret” assertions to Gartz 1996 & Samorini 1996 – Samorini who gave him the photo! The main guilty entheogen scholars are Allegro & Ruck & their pop reception. This section / genrerl topic came up now b/c reading Lundborg book, I keep seeing “SECRET” and “HIDDEN” way overused.
Ancients way-overused ‘secret’ and ‘hidden’.
Historians commit
Wouter Hanegraaff warns about making mythic tales the foundation for historiography.
Historians over-employ as if explanation, the “hidden” construct and the “secret” construct.
Transcendent Knowledge involves revealing a hidden occluded secret, underlying level of the mind that awareness sees only during loose cognition.
Bad, uncomprehending entheogen scholars mistakenly project the mind’s hidden/revealed aspect onto the social plane.
Samorini in 1998’s b/w picture of the Dancing Man salamander bestiary’s mushroom-tree, set up 1st-gen entheogen scholarship’s folly and faceplant. HIs article doesn’t show blue cap, but gray. A projection-fest, CHILDISH WISHFUL FANTASY PROJECTION inkblot resulted.
“If there are spots on a mushroom drawing’s cap, then we know the gray cap is red.”
Hatsis AFAIK gets the medal for ridiculing and pointing that out.
Ronald Huggins credits his fellow MICA Denier Hatsis.
mushroom imagery in Christian art (MICA)
“Mushroom-Trees” in Christian Art (Samorini 1998)
Thomas Hatsis, the historian of medieval psychedelics use (scopolamine)
Thomas Hatsis
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Thomas Hatsis wrote a book on mid-20th C ergot too. It looks like it’s probably a good book.
4 Answers for Social Drama Narrative of 1st-Gen Entheogen Scholarship: Who Was Fantasy Amanita Restricted To? Heretical Sects; 1-2 Initiates; 1-2 Elites; All Elites
The essence of kettle logic is: putting forth multiple arguments with no thought of coordinating them. Some of the result is self-contradiction.
Kettle logic is not the same as self-contradiction.
Ruck: restricts the fantasy myth-realm Mushroom (not “kiddie Amanita”; rather, Fantasy Amanita Better than Mere Psychedelic, mythic-realm fantasy magic Amanita super-psychedelic.
Ruck restricts fantasy Amanita to heretical (closed) underground sects. (Never to individual heretics, b/c they might mix in with the common mass, and Ruck’s social drama narrative cannot permit that.)
With no thought of the above, Ruck restricts fantasy Amanita to 1-2 initiates.
With no thought of the above, Ruck restricts fantasy Amanita to 1-2 elites.
Irvin AstroSham 1 2005 Conclusion 1st sentence tries to restrict the fantasy Amanita to all elites, who always kept The Mushroom secret from the masses.
Idea produced by this recording:
Andrew Rutajit:
Amanita is one of the most potent psychedelic mushrooms ever discovered.

He understates.
Amanita is far better than any mere psychedelic, such as Psilocybin.
1st-Gen entheogen scholarship never cares about actual Amanita; it cares about fantasy Amanita super-psychedelic, better than any psychedelic.
Dale Pendell:
“Amanita is the most famous entheogen that nobody uses. It is the SUPREME SYMBOL of all entheogenic religion.”
1st-Gen entheogen scholarship disrespects mere psychedelic Psilocybin; it reserves all enthusiasm for far better: fantasy mythic-realm The Mushroom, The Holy Sacred Mushroom, Amanita.
1st-generation entheogen scholarship (the Secret Amanita paradigm)
1ges
1st-gen entheogen scholarship
1g
2nd-generation entheogen scholarship (the Explicit Psilocybin paradigm)
2ges
2nd-gen entheogen scholarship
2g
In characteristic 1st-gen entheogen scholarship fashion, Clark Heinrich reluctantly, sadly recounts when users of The Mushroom, fantasy Amanita, had to stoop and reduce themselves to a mere psychedelic, Psilocybin, instead, unfortunately – a huge downgrade.
from Voice Recording pm March 8, 2025, 6328, 1:50:00, good recording for Egodeath Mystery Show
1st-Gen entheogen scholarship
1ges
2nd-Gen entheogen scholarship
2ges
The Effect Index drawing of “timeline” is pretty great, for entry: “Perception of Eternalism”.
https://egodeaththeory.org/2025/02/18/3-phase-transcendent-possibilism-2-phase-eternalism/#Perception-of-Eternalism
Stanford too low-IQ to draw a tree on the “tree model” diagram, and too incomplete of the thinker to show entire snake on right:

2 points in time that lost and forget Psilocybin esotericism:
- The shift from geocentric to heliocentric lost the great Mithraism astral ascent model. date of Copernicus: 1510 but practically 1625 (slow takeup).
- Newton Princip 1687.
Psilocybin esotericism, including the Mithraic cosmos model, was forgotten in 1687.
Mithraism astral ascent model:
- Earth 0: naive possibilism-thinking; naive freewill thinking.
- … levels / grades of increasing grasp of heimarmene.
- Sphere 7: Saturn = 7/8 heimarmene.
- Sphere 8: fixed stars = full heimarmene.
- Sphere 9: precession = transcendent freewill.
astral ascent model
aamd
Psilocybin esotericism
pe



My Theorizing Routinely Integrates Psilocybin Transformation, Like Ruck’s Myth Textbook Routinely Integrates Entheogens
What a feeble, weakling, ineffectual theorist or new-paradigm- constructing scientist, I would be, if I did NOT routinely integrate conjectures.
Imagine a person who couches weakly all the time, “I am not certain of any of my ideas, but maybe perhaps…”
Such a person will get NOWHERE.
Unproductive hesitation and weakness of putting forth theory, like digging w a shovel while holding back, HOLDING BACK, working harder to hold yourslef back
“I HOPE Ronald Huggins APPROVES OF MY CONJECTURES”
, right? please validate me (whiny voice)
My Use of Key Terms Notation & Acronyms for Concept-Labels, Like Ruck’s Myth Textbook Uses KEY-TERM Notation
I am following in Ruck’s Footsteps (His Entheogen-Integrating Myth Textbook) by Integrating “Psilocybin Transformation” So Routinely in Workaday Theorizing, also Modelling His Encyclopedia-type KEY-TERM Notation, like my April 1987 development of [ACRO] Technique of Concept-Labels
Key Dispute: Does Psilocybin Transform Mainly from Possibilism to Eternalism, or Mainly from Eternalism to Possibilism?
- Early Antiquity said Psilocybin transformation is from possibilism to eternalism.
- Late Antiquity said Psilocybin transformation can be re-framed as if from eternalism to possibilism.
- Hanegraaff crudely says: Psilocybin transformation is from eternalism to possibilism.
THAT IS A GREAT SUMMARY OF HOURS OF THEORIZING/ STORYTELLING! 3:12 pm March 8, 2025.
Here’s how Wouter Hanegraaff got untethered, and we can blame the over-clever, too-tricky, irresponsible, & reckless advanced-level mythmaking of his Hermeticists in Late Antiquity:
- Early Antiquity said, correctly & helpfully: Psilocybin transformation is from possibilism to eternalism.
- Late Antiquity said Psilocybin transformation can possibly be re-framed AS-IF from eternalism to possibilism, as a rebellious marketing backlash, insincerely or aspirationally. They had nuance & restraint while stretching the truth: they only merely claim that only our highest, spirit aspect goes above heimarmene.
- Hanegraaff crudely says: Psilocybin transformation is from eternalism to possibilism.
Wouter Hanegraaff writes that only the spirit aspect transcends heimarmene. I have to give him credit.
Still, the picture he paints, exaggerates the focus on “transformation from eternalism to possibilism”.
Wouter Hanegraaff eagerly misquotes the ancients, and takes-up where ancients assign Fate to the starting point and all planets.
ie he quotes their qualified statements, and then he repeats but w/o the qualifying, on the next page, contradicting his previous page. I posted specifics here in 2022; the book is marked up there.

transformation from eternalism to possibilism
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- Early Antiquity: transformation from possibilism to eternalism.
- Late Antiquity: transformation from eternalism to possibilism (per our competitive marketing, wink 🤥👖🔥🤞🤑💰)
- Metal bands, Erik Davis ed05 the book Led Zeppelin IV, 2005, by Erik Davis, 2005; p. 118: astral ascent mysticism; p. 122: the Egodeath theory : Tragedy: transformation from possibilism to eternalism.
- But Wouter Hanegraaff the book Hermetic Spirituality and the Historical Imagination: Altered States of Knowledge in Late Antiquity, by Wouter Hanegraaff, 2022 :
transformation from eternalism to possibilism
Beyond Fixed Stars (Level 8) is Precession of Equinoxes (Level 9) & Trepidation of Precession (Level 10) – Finally a Useful Mapping of 2 or 3 Levels Above Heimarmene (Fixed Stars)
March 8, 2025 – discovered Mar 7 pm in article:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celestial_spheres —
“In more detailed models the seven planetary spheres contained other secondary spheres within them.
“The planetary spheres were followed by the stellar sphere containing the fixed stars;
“other scholars added a ninth sphere to account for the precession of the equinoxes, [I WAS NEEDING THIS DISTINCTION PLACEMENT!]
“a tenth to account for the supposed trepidation of the equinoxes, [I needed such accounting]
“and even an eleventh to account for the changing obliquity of the ecliptic.[28]
Sphere 8 = Fixed Stars = Heimarmene/ Fate/ Eternalism/ No-Free-Will; Enslaved, Prison, Puppet, Helpless


Sphere 9 = Precession of Equinoxes = transcendent freewill = transcend Fate = outside of eternalism [yay! perfect fit! solved/ confirmed!]
Paul Thagard’s theory of explanatory models explains why I FEEL/experience that this wiki article paragraph is a confirmation that is not provided by David Ulansey’s solution explaining Mithraism.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celestial_spheres —
“In more detailed models the seven planetary spheres contained other secondary spheres within them. The planetary spheres were followed by the stellar sphere containing the fixed stars; other scholars added a ninth sphere to account for the precession of the equinoxes, [I WAS NEEDING THIS DISTINCTION PLACEMENT!] a tenth to account for the supposed trepidation of the equinoxes, [needed such accounting] and even an eleventh to account for the changing obliquity of the ecliptic.[28]
28: Francis R. Johnson, “Marlowe’s “Imperiall Heaven,” ELH, 12 (1945): 35–44, p. 39 – agghh dogsh!t useless, where the F is the Biblio entry??? WTF is ELH???
Web search:
Francis Johnson Marlowe’s “Imperiall Heaven”
https://www.google.com/search?q=Francis+Johnson+Marlowe%27s+%22Imperiall+Heaven%22 — gives important page to read w/ firm reverence about which spheres move compared to the ultimate, Empyreum:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2871598 —

In the above passage, THE HIGHEST MOVING SPHERE IS PRIMUM MOBILE, which in a red/yellow diagram map below, is level 9, just above fixed stars 8 which i equate w/ full heimarmene.
The sphere which doesn’t move, here, is the Empyreum.
This literary model achieves affirming that Transcendent Knowledge = no motion, and says “achieving no motion = above heimarmene / fixed stars”, which implies that the fixed stars move, which the idea of prescession sort of confirms.
First, hsitorically, they mapped “no motion” to level 8 fixed stars = heimarmene, and that is your final destination.
Psilocybin gives you no-free-will / eternalism, end of story. According to our grandpas back in Early Antiquity, who bequeathed us, in 150 AD Late Antiquity, their HORRIBLE WORSHIP OF HEIMARMENE ENSLAVEMENT/ puppethood. HARD PASS! We agree that fate rules the cosmos, grampa is right. BUT, our job is to roll up our sleves and leverage mythmaking Marketing narrative, leveraging precession discovered [memory don’t let me down] Hipparchus 150 BC??? discovery of precession of equivnoxes, and later we can hallucinate “trepidation of precession” (oscillation).
These are MOVING levels that are AOBER ABOVE fixed stars/ heimarmene.
Waffle, waffle… as bad as Ruck “The Mushroom was everywhere but no one knew about it”
Thank god for Mithraism the best useful point of reference, for talking about in what way we can have transcendent freewill.
I was wrong the other day saying “art = good b/c too simple to show mental errors”.
Then I remembered Mithraism is ALL ABOUT depicting “transcend heimarmene”. Mithraism says the highest level of Psilocybin transformation is motion; freewill – but not naive possibilism-thinking.
It’s a motion a freewill that affirms cosmic no-free-will. The Mithraism model says only PART of you is above the no-free-will prison rock block universe, snake-bounded by the heimarmene snake.
That’s actually agreed to by the book Hermetic Spirituality and the Historical Imagination: Altered States of Knowledge in Late Antiquity, by Wouter Hanegraaff, 2022.
But now we have problem re: the Renaissance cosmos model, that says the ultimate final destination is non-moving, where God & elect are, several levels higher than mere fixed stars/ heimarmene.
I fervently hold that fixed stars = heimarmene, based on arg from usefulness, & b/c most systems assert that. Contradicts Renaissance model which says God level doesn’t move, but all levels lower move.
SOLUTION: separate the idea of movement from the idea of heimarmene & transcending it.
My Defining 2- AND 3-Level Models is like mystic cosmos models that have variable # of spheres 7-11
But my strategy to keep clarity and usefulness of entire set of all cosmos mappings, is 3-fold:
- multiple levels of moving planets – easy b/c everyone says 7 planets.
- fixed stars, FIRMLY ALWAYS ASSIGN HEIMARMENE HERE – easy b/c standard.
- multiple levels above heimarmene – 9 & 10; or 9 & 10 & 11.
fixed stars mapped EASILY to heimarmene – yet Wouter Hanegraaff manages to cosmically botch this elementary given that everyone else agrees, the stars are level 8 = heimarmene, DUH.
Every child knows that, but Wouter Hanegraaff can’t handle that b/c it forces him to move from Saturn to no-free-will.
Blame ancient Hermeticists who did poor job of using myth as clarifying analogy.
His ancient Hermeticists try too hard to assign demonized Fate to all levels from Earth 0 to Stars 8, so how can Wouter Hanegraaff avoid multiplying their confusion/ their anti-clarifying, insane-level hatred of heimarmene?
Like I said in favor of MICA Deniers Letcher and Hatsis:
- It’s not Wouter Hanegraaff’s fault he’s confused; he did not invent this confusion where Fate is mis-assigned to starting point Earth 0 prior to Psilocybin, and then Fate is ALSO assigend to spheres 1-7, then he calls sphere 8 freedom above heimarmene – unlike everyone else. Hermeticists are to blame for over-assigning fate to too many levels, below 8th/9th/10th spheres. We should only assign fate to level 8, and reserve 9+ for transcendent freewill.
There ARE early cosmos models that focus only on …
There ARE early astral ascent models that only use 7 planets, and are silent re: fixed stars level 8 (heimarmene), and act like level 8 = transcendent freewill, and what THEY do is, assign heimarmene to Saturn sphere 7:
- 0 earth, no Psilocybin
- 1 moon – 1st Psilocybin
- 2
- 3
- 4
- 5
- 6
- 7 – Saturn = heimarmene. (that assignment is not very problematic, b/c all models effectively assign heimarmene to Saturn, even if formally assign heimarmene to level 8 fixed stars; ie, Saturn is TANTAMOUNT TO heimarmene.) The slowest moving planetary wanderer (unless later per Hipparchus’ discovery of precession, you say that the fixed stars wander, over 30K years)
- 8. fixed stars.
IF your culture values heimarmene as the ultimate mental transformation state, then call this sphere “heimarmene”, same as level 7 Saturn.
IF your culture values transcending heimarmene as the ultimate mental transformation state, then call this sphere “transcending heimarmene”, contrasting w/ level 7 Saturn. Wouter Hanegraaff does this, except he feels he has to delete the stars entirely, & ends up sneaking them into level 7 Saturn.
I am not mad at Wouter Hanegraaff for valuing moving from heimarmene to freewill. I’m mad at him and/or Hermeticists for assigning heimarmene to every level from 0 through 7, or 0 through 8. Not helpful, fails to clarify, which is the purpose of analogy / religious myth. Rank Hane’s errors, & the Hermetcists poor way of over-assigning Fate to every sphere 1-8.
Wouter Hanegraaff assignes fate to earth 0 & planet 1-7, and assigns freewill to sphere 8 (which has no stars, somehow). He assigns stars to Saturn 7 (he expresses or manifests confusion and uncertainty about that, in footnote & throughout book eg garbled heading “BEYOND THE [7] STARS”).
Ancient Hermeticists are only a little better.
They over-assign Fate to earth 0 and to moon 1- Saturn sphere 7 AND – unlike Wouter Hanegraaff – they also assign Fate to sphere 8 which they (unlike Wouter Hanegraaff ) say = fixed stars
the Egodeath theory EMPHASIZES that our starting delusion prior to Psilocybin transformation is naive possibilism-thinking; untransformed freewill thinking. Were I to say the mind starts w/ eternalism… false. Underlying mind is always eternalism, but, child thinks in terms of monolithic, autonomous control/ naive possibilism-thinking; naive freewill thinking.
If we in our loathing of Fate, in our frothing hatred of heimarmene prison, we describe and disparage a child’s mental model as “Fate-enslaved”, that is NOT clarifying and helpful, it is a wrong description of child vs adult, immature vs. Psilocybin transformed- “beard” adult thinking.
The problem w/ immature mental model is NOT that it is heimarmene-enslaved; if you tell that story, in Late Antiquity, that reflects your late POV, where you are all-concerned to solve prob of heimarmene. see my book review summ of Nicola Lewis Cosmology & Fate: Pitiless. it’s in
Justin Sledge of Esoterica Confirms All Brands of Religion in Late Antiquity Transcended No-Free-Will (Fatedness, Heimarmene, Eternalism) —
section:
https://egodeaththeory.org/2025/03/03/dr-justin-sledge-of-esoterica-confirmed-late-antiquity-brands-all-rejected-no-free-will-fatedness/#Cosmology-and-Fate – best excerpt from my 2014 review:
People in Mediterranean antiquity including Jews, Pagans, Gnostics, and Christians, around the 1st Century, believed in fatedness. Then around the 2nd Century, people adopted a rhetoric of transcending fatedness, while disparaging other people or the other groups as being ignorant and being slaves to fate. This book supports the 3-tiered systematic analysis in my Egodeath theory, in which we move through three stages during initiation experiences:
1. Ignorant freewill thinking.
2. Enlightened realization of fatedness and personal noncontrol. This stage disparages stage 1 (ignorant freewill thinking).
3. Transcending fatedness to gain a transcendent freedom. This stage [in its decadent, unhelpful, irresponsible mode] conflates and disparages stage 1 (ignorant freewill thinking) and stage 2 (realization of fatedness and personal noncontrol).
Stage 2 was first positively valued, and then later was negatively valued.
/ end review excerpt
Be very cautious about hating eternalism – lest you lose the revelation transformative revealtion of eternalism which is 99% of enlightenment!
IF YOU HATE ETERNALISM THAT FKKING BAD, THEN DO NOT GET ENLIGHTENED, DO NOT USE Psilocybin; REJECT Psilocybin transformation —
The main thing Psilocybin transformation gives is eternalism; wake up to heimarmene prison enslavement helpless puppet w/o branching, freedom, autonomy, or open future.
We can call (sell & market; frame) the result “transcendent freewill”, or “qualified possibilism-thinking” — but underneath that is adult, mature, awareness of eternalism (prison slave puppet etc) – so, even if you market enlightenment as “transcendent freewill” or “qualified possibilism-thinking”, the Big Change that … theology: we move from slave of fate, to slave of Christ/God.
When I was a freewill-deluded child, unknowingly I was a slave of fate.
[that’s not a helpful framing; too clever; too advanced myth-usage; not a clarifying use of analogy to explain]
Now that I’ve been saved, I’m a slave of God.
surrounding sections: March 8, 2025
Justin Sledge asks “Is enlightenment worth the bother? Doesn’t seem so, b/c chop wood carry water”; see the Pre/Trans fallacy;
The only thing accomplished by Psilocybin transformation is, we move from naive possibilism-thinking to qualified possibilism-thinking.
So kinda nothing much changes, by the vision of eternalism that pulls the rug out from under King Ego steering in tree.
Hating heimarmene and disparaging all early stages of Psilocybin transformation as “evil heimarmene”, might be understandable from Late Antiquity POV, where Grandpa Eternalism always pressed the heimarmene prison upon them as the goal of Psilocybin transformation, and told them “be happy in your heimarmene prison!” (Stoic phil.) — but it’s a non-helpful narrative.
“Grandpa heimarmene” means the cultural/psychological values held by Early Antiquity who discovered basic, relatively simple Psilocybin transformation; Late Antiquity lost all comprehension of Psilocybin transformation, because they too much loathed heimarmene / eternalism which is the true product, re: mental model, of Psilocybin transformation.
Basically and simply, and helpfully: The essential product or result of Psilocybin transformation is eternalism/ heimarmene , tragedy of awareness of — you can hear this cry in acid-inspired Rock:
Metallica lyrics about the tragic puppethood prison enslavement revelation:
flash before my eye, now its time to die
who made you god to say, I’ll take your life from you
in the electric chair
if this is true then let it be
Ride the Lightning album
In fact, the child, starting from naive possibilism-thinking, must struggle to REACH heimarmene -awareness; that’s the MAIN MISSION:
The MAIN CHALLENGE over the course of 10 Psilocybin sessions is to finally manage to retain & hang onto the treasure, the Psilocybin vision of no-free-will.
The merely small treasure booby prize after that is, let us call the result, “qualified possibilism-thinking” or “transcendent freewill” in our brand’s marketing brochures.
Only after mythic analogy has done its proper helpful work of giving you heimarmene imprisonment, should we then fume and despise heimarmene and ACT AS IF THE ONLY CONCERN & responsibility of RELIGION TO DELIVER IS:
MOVING US FROM HEIMARMENE TO FREEWILL.
- The MAIN job of Psilocybin transformation is to give you heimarmene awareness.
- The minor, later job of Psilocybin transformation is to reframe heimarmene as qualified possibilism-thinking; transcendent freewill. Transcend eternalism, a little — even Wouter Hanegraaff’s overly heimarmene-hating Hermeticists said, only a small, spiritual part of us transcends heimarmene! Yet Wouter Hanegraaff tries to twist their views to the max, unbridled, he follows them all the way, off a cliff, and HEREMETICISTS DO NOT AGREE WITH Wouter Hanegraaff’S EXAGERRATION of their exagerrated hatred of heimarmene.
So we have historically this sequence of attitudes/ emphases/ aspirations:
- Early Antiquity says Psilocybin transformation gives you enslavement to heimarmene, if you work hard and successfully retain the vision of eternalism. They worship eternalism.
- Late Antiquity says it’s a tragedy, that Psilocybin transformation gives you eternalism; let us invent a narrative built above that, selling “our brand gives you a little freewill.”
- Wouter Hanegraaff studies Late Antiquity, and misrepresents them as completely untethered from reality of Psilocybin transformation: he wrongly thinks Psilocybin transformation changes you from initial heimarmene enslavement, to emancipation into egoic freewill, which is a backwards emphasis.
Psilocybin transformation is MOSTLY from possibilism to eternalism.
Late Antiquity knew that, bc Early Antiquity taught them that, but they leaned toward reverse emph via trickery of advanced, “plausible deniability”, trying to get away w/ what they know is less than true:
“Let us try to take the fact, and apply a reverse, as-if framing, through clever advanced myth:
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Our competitive Marketing Dept sells you:
Psilocybin transformation is MOSTLY from eternalism to possibilism.
Wouter Hanegraaff lapped that slop up. His book tells that narrative, supported by so-garbled astral ascent model, he cannot even place the stars (which he correctly equates w/ evil heimarmene) anywhere.
How Hanegraaff Reached the Misunderstanding “Psilocybin Transformation Is from Eternalism to Possibilism”
“Psilocybin transformation is from eternalism to possibilism.”
The decadent vector (begun by ancient Hermeticists, eventually gone fully decadent) is complete: we now entirely lose all comprehension of mythic analogy, of Psilocybin transformation, of everything, and are left with non-drug entheogens, incomprehension of myth, and a totally wrong model of mental model transformation that is the opposite of the truth about the main direction of development.
Per the Egodeath theory, there are aspects of “starting from eternalism”: The child’s eternalism-thinking is unknowingly produced by hidden underlying eternalism.
Per the Egodeath theory, there are aspects of “ending at possibilism”: personal control system always uses egoic possibilism mental worldmodel, even in the peak state, although awareness becomes elevated and moves outside the personal control system to be able to observe it (and trip it up) from outside of itself.
per the Egodeath theory, there are weak aspects of the Psilocybin transformation tracjectory “moving from eternalism to possibilism”.
But, by far the main direction is starting from possibilism-thinking, ending w/ eternalism-thinking.
Wouter Hanegraaff naturally puts undue focus, lapping up the insincere marketing message of 150 AD, that “our brand is superior: it saves you from Fate prison enslavement puppethood.”
That’s what Wouter Hanegraaff wants to hear, and he’s so willing to be conned by this deceptive marketing, he even deletes all the evil hated heimarmene-stars from the sky’s 8th level, to clear the way for the fabricated phony product, “transformation from eternalism to possibilism”.
Phony marketing always has a GRAIN OF TRUTH, but worthless.
150 AD marketers like Hermeticists, know that there is only a grain of truth to their sales pitch, “transformation from eternalism to possibilism”.
The Late Antiquity marketers, freewill snake oil salesmen, FREEWILL SALVATION SALESMEN, count on Wouter Hanegraaff to hear their nuanced pitch that has plausible deniability, if they’re accused of over-selling “we free you from fate”.
In moments of nuance, Wouter Hanegraaff accurately writes that Hermeticists only claim to free only the spirit part of you from fate.
But the song he sings & emphasizes, with only feeble qualification of this assertion, is simply, un-qualified:
“transformation from eternalism to possibilism“. 🎉 😍 🙌
150 AD: Join Our Religion, Which Gives Transformation from Eternalism to Possibilism* (*sort of, a little, figuratively speaking, in a way)
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Wouter Hanegraaff omits & downplays the fine print, which says this product is PRETEND-ONLY and is not a serious claim to escape Fate enslavement.
Hermeticists know that the MAIN direction is transformation from possibilism to eternalism.
Meditation hucksters’ sales pitch is not entirely a lie against Psilocybin, just MOSTLY a lie, to compete against Psilocybin.
By the time confused Wouter Hanegraaff is done, he says something making the hermeticists say WHOAH, WHOAH!
YOU gone too far Hane!
Wouter Hanegraaff says crudely, when leaving the Hermeticists’ 150 AD sales pitch and then trying to sell his followers on “Hermeticism frees you from Fate enslavement”, he claims & sings, & emphasizes “transformation from eternalism to possibilism”, throwing nuance to the wind.
Per the Egodeath theory, the truth of mental model transformation from Psilocybin transformation:
Psilocybin transformation is about changing you from POSSIBILISM delusion to ETERNALISM revelation (w/ a little qualified possibilism-thinking after).
Late Antiquity knew that, and tried to emphasize the latter part.
They were anchored in Psilocybin reality, even while re-marketing to hype freewill.
Wouter Hanegraaff’s grotesque mis-telling, where he takes their Marketing promises to heart too crudely, and ends up failing to understand what Psilocybin transformation mainly does:
Psilocybin transformation is about changing you from HEIMARMENE SLAVE, to FREEDOM.
Ancient Hermeticists understand Wouter Hanegraaff’s sentiment and poorly proportioned reading of their mythic analogies, but they do NOT share that view, that lopsided, mis-balanced narrative, mis-emphasis.
This is the horrible disaster of Christianity inventing freewill and 150 AD Marketing departments all inventing freewill: they over-sell freewill and misrepresent the mind’s struggle trajectory.
In fact the mind’s Psilocybin transformation struggle trajectory is to start w/ naive freewill thinking, finally secure comprehension of underlying eternalism, and then, A LITTLE, move from eternalism to transcendent possibilism.
Late Antiquity screws these proporations all up, and we are left w NOTHING, we lose EVERYTHING, lose ALL comprehension of myth & alnalogy & trajectoery of mental model development, a la wilber Ken Wilber “catastrophic disintegration” due to failure to retain child thinking while transcending it.
The “hate fate” astral ascent model of Late Antiquity is dysfunctional and decadent and is OVERCORRECTION. They went way too far in selling freewill in 150 AD, and so they lost all comprehension …. they embraced anti-rational Quantum Mysticism and they failed to help children start from freewill delusion, discover truth of eternalism, and then a little bit transcend eternalism.
todo ~~ copy review main part, NDL Pitiless book.
The best cosmos-analogy model should use analogy to clarify and help immature non-initiates to start from freewill delusion, discover truth of eternalism (we are heimarmene prison enslavement puppets) (a difficult struggle and great achievement, for which we need clarity and assistance), and then a little bit transcend eternalism.
Late Antiquity is grotesque & decadent. They FAIL to help children start from freewill & reach developmental level of full retainment of grasp of no-free-will, b/c the ONLY thing Late Antiquity values, is the later, very advanced move, of sort of moving from eternalism to transcendent freewill.
Decadent, fate-hating Late Antiquity then re-cast the nature of Psilocybin transformation, AS IF you start from eternalism-thinking, and as if the only job & concern & RESPONSBILITY of religion is to bring you to possibilism-thinking.
Late Antiquity is IRRESPONSIBLE, pushing misleading analogy, that misrepresents child-thinking as if it is eternalism-thinking – and so is of NO HELP in the real main challenge for the mind: to move from naive possibilism-thinking to eternalism-thinking.
(see Ken Wilber’s Pre/Trans fallacy)
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It is a little bad that Wouter Hanegraaff screws up assigning fate or freewill to levels 8 & 9. Hermeticists don’t make that poor move.
It is very bad of Wouter Hanegraaff & very bad of hermeticists that they assign fate to Earth level 0 and all planet spheres Moon 1 – Saturn 7.
In fact as we move from naive possibilism-thinking (Earth 0) to Saturn 7, underlying is always Fate, but concsiously we move from mental worldmodel of freewill , then increating awareness of fate, reaching full 100% awareness of Fate at level 8 fixed stars – after (above) that, transcendent freewill, at sphere 9 (precession per Mithraism), & 10 (alleged “trepidation of precession”), & 11 if you have that level
But later, Renaiss model says 10 or 11 final state is heimarmene — or rather, is non-motion (so, must separate heimarmene from non-motion).
Early Antiquity ignored “transcendent freewill”; they say you end up w/ final state = heimarmene prison.
How the hell do Early Antiquity have astral ascent model that … not a conflict.
SOLUTION: Early Antiquity has 7-sphere model, final state at level 7 is heimarmene, and 8 stars – if they have that level – is still heimarmene.
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Consider the stunted “stars”[sic] system of Wouter Hanegraaff: the highest “star” is Saturn = heimarmene.
Wouter Hanegraaff puts above that, the freedom levels 8-and-9 (so conflated, there’s no func’l diff’c).
Wouter Hanegraaff cannot place fixed stars zodiac anywhere, so when no one’s looking, he puts constellations in fate level 7 = Saturn planetary moving level.
This way, his precious level 8 is free from heimarmene / stars.
He says: You graduate from 7 Saturn heimarmene, which somehow(??) includes fixed stars zodiac in his garbled book, to freedom level 8, above the “stars”(!!)
He says level 8 — above the stars, somehow — is identical with level 9, tehere’s no functional difference. [my way better & more standard model says, 8 = full grasp of heimarmene; 9 = transcend heimarmene].
Hanegraaff’s non-drug entheogens transform us from fate [prior to initiation] then fate, then more fate, then more fate, then Saturn sphere 7 (new! now includes fixed stars, somehow!) which is still Fate;
then move above Saturn to reach freedom, above fate, at level 8 above fate, which he has made star-free via his confusion.
10-sphere map:
- sphere 8 fixed stars = heimarmene prison, and it moves.
- sphere 9: transcend heimarmene = prime mover (in some maps) and it moves.
- sphere 10 = empyrean = God = elect (compare 11-sphere maps though).
11-sphere map:
- sphere 8 fixed stars = heimarmene prison, and it moves.
- sphere 9: transcend heimarmene = prime mover (in some maps) and it moves.
- sphere 10 = empyrean = God = elect (compare 11-sphere maps though).
That is THE most useful principle in mapping astral ascent mysticism models to the actual sequence of Psilocybin transformation from
naive possibilism-thinking to
eternalism-thinking to
qualified possibilism-thinking.
I would object a lot if you say God & elect are at the heimarmene level.
That’s the sort of model that Early Antiquity asserted: you end up {snake frozen in rock}. which Late Antiquity totally rejected in their mythic narrative Marketing promises.
Waffle, waffle.
Does precession itself waffle?
For a long time scientists were full of baloney and imagined that precession oscillates, because that follows the pattern of meta-motion, that the discovery of precession established.
The Waffling “Precession” or “Trepidation” of Models of Psilocybin Transformation Over the Eras, Flipping Back and Forth Between “Destination = Heimarmene” vs. “Destination = Transcendent Possibilism”
The waffling debate, over the eras: IS NON-MOTION (ETERNALISM) THE FINAL DESTINATION, OR NOT??
- The fixed stars sphere doesn’t move.
- Hyparchus & Mithraism – yes it does: bc precession. Spiritual liberty achieved!
- Oh yeah? well precession oscillates, HAH! (“Trepidation of Precession”)
- Well then only the God-level is non-motion.
- Objection: but non motion means heimarmene prison! you suck
- That’s ok, theres angels outside that, they have transcendent freewill.
- …
- …
Angels wringing their hands debating free will vs. determinism for eternity.
Late Antiquity said, Grandpa your story sucks, I hate your eternalism prison, so I say above fixed stars is transcendent freewill / precession / level 9, which DOES MOVE.
The Renaissance cosmos model then waffled and said, heimarmene moves per precession, and precession moves, too, per “trepidation of precession” (their scientific error), and the Prime Mover level – 9 or 10, waffling – moves.
I clarify and map these contradictory, evolving conversation systems clearly, below.
Waffling Cosmologies About Whether the Highest Destination Level that Psilocybin Transformation Gives You Is Moving or Non-Moving
Early Antiquity Model: Focus on Non-Moving Fixed Stars as Final State
Early Antiquity model: ultimate final level is fixed stars, which do not move. above that is divine transcendent freewill.
Late Antiquity Model: Focus on Moving Precession as Final State (per Mithraism)
Late Antiquity model: ultimate final level is precession, whcih is transcendent freewill. fixed stars don’t move.
Renaissance Model: Focus on Non-Moving Empyrean as Final State
Renaiss model: ultimate final level is emperian, whch doesn’t move. fixed stars move; precession moves b/c of “trepidation of precession”.
Even the Prime Mover level (9 or 10) moves. full enlightenment = reaching several levels higher than the MOVING level of fixed stars, above the MOVING level “precession”, above the MOVING level “Prime Mover”, FINALLY you reach God level/ elect level, where you DO NOT MOVE.
Odd b/c that implies worship of — like Early Antiquity — simple heimarmene.
Talk about “oscillation of precession”!
Task: Assign “Prime Mover” Sphere to Level 9 or 10 in Best [= most clarifying explanatory analogy] General Model of astral ascent mysticism
todo: place phrase “primum mobile” in my levels – 10? 11? lower than Empyrean, higher than fixed stars 8, higher than precession level 9 – probably level 10.
Rush song Prime Mover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER4nbLsaivg —
Lyrics: Rush: Prime Mover
https://www.google.com/search?q=lyrics+rush+prime+mover
I don’t know how much I wrote this proposal (map precession of equinoxes to cosmos level 9 in astral ascent mysticism) or said it in voice recordings the past year(?) or when exactly the question has been crossing my mind & coming up.
This idea is pretty much directly stated by David Ulansey’s solution explaining Mithraism that I read in ~2001, isn’t it?
Any idea I ever have, is never new.
1:05:15 brennan gives all credit to Christianity for inventing freewill, to do this a dirty move of comparing pre-Christian pagan fate, vs. 150 AD Christianity. Illegit unfair comparison.
Brennan needs to – as sort of pointed out by Sledge — fairly
compare 150 AD Christianity vs 150 AD paganism, not
compare 150 AD Christianity vs. 150 BC paganism!
In this version of the vid (w/ diff. intro), which is on Brennans ch vs Sledge ESOTERICA ch, it’s at 1:05:58 where I yell out other religions, and then Sledge repeats my exact words I yelled against Brennan, correcting Brennan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1YnPGVLlAM&t=3958s —
Excellent correction by Sledge here.
Never completely new: ask Paul Thagard’s theory of theory-development how an idea of mine in 2001 is new for me in 2025.
Doesn’t Ulansey already say that precession is the level higher than fixed stars? Definitely of course.
Yet, this confirmation found in wiki article https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celestial_spheres
because the article paragraph also names the several other high levels that are higher than heimarmene/ fixed stars along same line – eg the level of fake “oscillation of precession” (mistaken ancient science) is higher than level 9 Ennead “precession”, both above fixed stars/ heimarmene.
[March 7, pm, 2025] CELEBRATION, FITS PERFECTLY INTO A GAP/opportunity that I had identified, of:
What level to place precession at? I asked recently: cannot we, shouldn’t we, place Preceession higher than fixed stars level?
David Ulansey’s solution explaining Mithraism


Sphere 10 = Trepidation of Precession = Further Transcendence of Eternalism ~= Prime Mover Sphere, or Empyrean of the Elect

Sphere 11 = Empyrean = Dwelling Place of God and Elect; Outside of Transcending Eternalism = Transcendent Possibilism = the Changing Obliquity of the Ecliptic (obviously) 🤷♂️
But beware the Wilber Monster: the Pre/Trans fallacy; ie this is NOT naive possibilism-thinking!
Transcendent possibilism LOOKS like naive possibilism-thinking, but has a different und’g; recog of the uncontrollable source of control-thoughts.
I am not my own source of autonomous control power, and branching steering is all pre-existing and illusory in a way.
March 8, 2025, based on important Wikip finding p.m. Mar 7 2025: that level 9 was mapped to precession.
I had realized recently, the need for such mapping, and here it is spelled out EXACTLY how I need!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celestial_spheres —
“In more detailed models
the seven planetary spheres contained other secondary spheres within them.
The planetary spheres were followed by the stellar sphere containing the fixed stars; [ie eighth; the Ogdoad – fate; heimarmene; eternalism; no-free-will]
other scholars added a ninth sphere [the Ennead] to account for the precession of the equinoxes, [transcend eternalism/ transcendent freewill]
a tenth to account for the supposed trepidation of the equinoxes,
and even an eleventh to account for the changing obliquity of the ecliptic. 🤷♂️
As a further reward of reading this wiki article, solves problem what is the difference between the 9 10 11 levels all higher than no-free-will level 8 fixed stars? this furht er reward is: level above my much-needed/ now fulfilled “precession” level per Mithraism — is level
9 = precession
10 = trepidation oscilallation of precession (their science mistake, but epxlains a purpose of higher layer)
11 =
Apparently on this other YouTube channel is the same AWESOME conversation between Justin Sledge & Chris Brennan re: ancient Fate/ free will vs. determinism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1YnPGVLlAM – Brennan’s channel “The Astrology Podcast” rather than on sledge’s ch ESOTERICA.
Nice: at exactly 1:00:00, ears perk up at “Valens”, where the conversation goes from quite good to GREAT. The opening statement in Brennan’s book. https://www.amazon.com/Hellenistic-Astrology-Study-Fate-Fortune/dp/0998588903
Brennan starts by saying how extremely pleased he was with this interview-become-conversation.
I have to agree. Towering above other videos in importance.
1:02:15 in this vid (vs the vid copy on Sledge ch. w/ diff intro, i posted), Sledge points out that modern era assumes freewill, in contrast to antiquity that in 150 AD was busy inventing freewill but affirmed fate.
At 1:03:20, Chris Brennan wrongly singles out Christianity, giving it all credit for inventing freewill (a common fallacy among scholars) — but then Justin Sledge strongly corrects him, repeating what I yelled, “also Gnost, Neopl, Mithraism, & Hermeticism invented freewill!”
— even though they believe fate/ heimarmene prison is the case, as their main, given problem they sought to solve.
I am still correcting the misstatement “Gnostics hate the world”
NO! Off-base.
The point actually is, Gnostics hate heimarmene prison, equated w/ the cosmos bounded by level 8 fixed stars = heimarmene.
Gnostics said the Old Testament God is creator of heimarmene prison, and the New Testament God rescues us from that heimarmene prison.
THAT is the actual dynamic of their handling or revision or inversion of the myth of the day about that era’s belief in heimarmene — the same era that has 10 Psilocybin initiations to reveal and perceive heimarmene & illusory nature of our monolithic, autonomous control, and illusory branching possibilities.
branching possibilities
bp

In 2005, Erik Davis and I Were Both Fumbling Between 2-Level vs. 3-Level Model: Enlightenment = Determinism vs. Transcending Determinism

Error in Davis p. 118: “Beyond these seven heavens lay the empyrean [sic], the eighth “rung” of the fixed stars.”
NO! If any system says empyrean = eighth (fixed stars), it’s a bad system & a failed use of analogy.
‘Empyrean’ needs to be reserved for the 9th level, higher than 8th/ fixed stars.
Empyrean is per Ulansey hypercosmic which should mean beyond fixed stars boundary of fate-ruled cosmos. ‘pyre’ means hypercosmic fires above fixed stars zodiac constellations.
“This model was interpreted in different ways [yeah some shtty failed bad harmful ways], but for many gnostics, the planetary [1-7] rulers were essentially demonic: they imprisoned the soul through the machinery of fate, an oppressive system of astral control …”
That is bad to equate level 1-7 = fate.
Yes, fate underlies all Psilocybin-driven developmental levels, but we need to be discussing mental models and their transformation, from possibilism-thinking to finally, after great effort, retaining grasp of eternalism-thinking, then transcending the revealed fact of eternalism.
Not simply saying “every level less than 9 = 100% fate” – that is not helpful & is a WASTE, a failure to helpfully explain mental model transformation starting from, in fact, possibilism-thinking – never mind that naive possibilism-thinking has hidden, not-yet-revealed fate underlying it under the hood.
What are we trying to accomplish via analogy?
Just complaining about fate?
Or helping map the move from thinking in terms of childish possibilism-thinking, to reveal fate, and then t’d fate in some way?
The latter is sensible and valuable.
Just complaining about fate is not effective for achieving anything, and YOU LOSE *EVERYTHING*: all comprehension, all transformation, all grasp of myth, and finally, lose Psilocybin transformation entirely.
I’m sure I posted about this book before; search site for: davis “led zeppelin”
https://egodeaththeory.org/?s=davis+%22led+zeppelin%22

I surely wrote this error from Davis on the page about astral ascent mysticism before his page about the Egodeath theory. I noted his error about astral ascent mysticism in my markup of the book which I think I uploaded recently here, the two pages.
Davis’ error is similar to Wouter Hanegraaff’s confusion – GET CLEAR EVERYONE
i think i photo’d page 118 & 122 of davis then failed to upload them. i may have just trancribed; SEARCH SITE.
Level 0 Earth = 100% Possibilism
Levels 1-7 Moon-Saturn = Increasing Eternalism
Level 8 Fixed Stars = 100% Eternalism
Level 9 Empyrean = Transcend Eternalism
GET CLEAR EVERYONE, Including ANCIENT HERMETICISTS:
The 8TH SPHERE = FIXED STARS = 100% HEIMARMENE.
BELOW/BEFORE THAT (LEVELS 1-7) IS NAIVE POSSIBILISM-THINKING, MOVING by stages (Psilocybin sessions) TOWARD finally LATCHING ONTO ETERNALISM.
ABOVE THAT – IN 9TH sphere – = transcend heimarmene.
First, here is the only model that is good and matches the true way Psilocybin transforms the mental model: Blame April D DeConick’s radical gnostic mythmakers going too far in their inversions.
Mithraism is way better, coherent, matches actual mental development.
Ancients are WRONG and BAD when they equate ALL levels that are lower than “transcend heimarmene” as being simply heimarmene.
The penalty is severe for that lie about how the mind starts & transforms: you lose everything: comprehension of fate, of Psilocybin revelation; lose comprehension of myth.
You ruin & wreck, insanely, myth, & comprehension.
You lose everything, in overzealous flipping from a simple 2-level model (transformation from possibilism to eternalism) to an oversimple opposite inverted 2-level model, the lie of “transformation from eternalism to possibilism.
The true way the mind transforms is 1) naive possibilism-thinking 2) eternalism-thinking 3) qualified possibilism-thinking incl. eternalism-thinking.
Myth is only good and legit if is describes by analogy that.
Myth sucks and is failing to be analogy when it willfully lies and makes sht up falsely claiming that the mind moves from child-mode eternalism to possibilism.
The child mode is in fact naive possibilism-thinking – NOT eternalism-thinking!
How Sophisticated 3-Level Transcending of Heimarmene Became Decadent Failure to Transcend or Have Psilocybin Transformation or Comprehend Myth-Analogy at All
By pretending that children start with eternalism-thinking, you (Hermeticism in its bad form, maybe Gnosticism same) lose EVERYTHING, and religious myth becomes sheer egoic willful confusion and not analogy.
It is per Ken Wilber, failure, psychological disaster, failure of development, destructive regression… which gave not enlightenment or transcending eternalism, but fell into the Pre/Trans fallacy; mistaking advanced adult revelation of eternalism and then transcending of eternalism, for awful, rank, childish naive freewill thinking.
Rank untransformed naive possibilism-thinking becomes confused with advanced qualified possibilism-thinking, when you tell the lie that children begin with eternalism-thinking and then Psilocybin transforms from that to possibilism-thinking.
The result is nothing but failed myth & perpetual non-initiation; perpetual child-mode unenlightened thinking, untransformed.
It’s the total cancellation of what started as a 2-level maturation, then well-formed viable 3-level maturation model, then disaster:
when you remove child-stage possibilism-thinking and falsely claim it is eternalism-thinking, the whole sequence of Psilocybin transformation collapses, leaving nothing but STUNTED NAIVE POSSIBILISM-THINKING falsely posing as transcendent qualified possibilism-thinking, and you lose comprehension of even the basic 2-level model of mental model transformation.
Your frothing hatred of revealed eternalism makes you end up with no mental model transformation at all, yet mythic confusion and the advanced 3-level mythmaking analogy system crashes down into a heap of rubble.
You end up not transcending heimarmene, but rather, failing to engage at all with heimarmene, and the result is a denial of eternalism, and the rejection of any Psilocybin experincing of eternalism, and the rejection of Psilocybin.
Religious myth becomes degenerate and completely decadent.
0. Earth = sublunar = naive possibilism-thinking.
Wouter Hanegraaff screws it up:
- Lacks fixed stars entirely at any level!
- He is wrong to not place fixed stars in level 8.
- He is wrong to place fixed stars / zodiac/ constallations, in effect, into Saturn planetary moving sphere #7.
- He is wrong to say level 8 & 9 are functionally same.
- He is wrong to say level 8 = transcend fate.
- He, like hermeticts, is wrong to say level 0 Earth sublunar = fate & that the moving planetary levels 1-7 all = fate.
Ancient Hermeticists screw it up:
- They are wrong to say level 0 Earth sublunar = fate,
- 1 moon = fate,
- 2 mercury = fate
- 3 venus = fate
- 4 sun = fate
- 5 mars = fate
- 6 jupiter = fate
- 7 saturn = fate.
Erik Davis 2005 screws it up, he wrongly says level 8 fixed stars = empyean.
Davis p .118 = astral ascent mysticism – his error is there.
Davis p. 122 = the Egodeath theory.
aug 6 2022 uploaded, one of Wouter Hanegraaff errors:

His heading is confused and confusing: he means BEYOND THE PLANETARY SPHERES, and he numbers the two levels beyond Saturn as “8 and 9” – where 8 is star-free, and transcends heimarmene, and he says — when he rarely admits stars exist – he says the fixed stars/ zodiac/ constellations = fate – yet refuses to allow them into level 8, which he says transcends fate. Train wreck.
Wouter Hanegraaff builds on ancients’ confusion, adds his own confusion, then confuses the reader.
Wouter Hanegraaff’s garbled model of astral ascent mysticism, driven by sheer hatred of fate, and only valuing transcending fate (not at all striving to grasp & retain the vision of fatedness, as the mind actually does), paints the false picture/model: “Psilocybin transforms you from eternalism to possibilism.”
By “BEYOND THE STARS”, p. 297, Wouter Hanegraaff wrongly means above the moving planetary levels Moon (1) through Saturn (7).
Actually, the fixed stars are level 8 (the 8th Psilocybin session), where heimarmene (eternalism) is fully manifest/ mentally grasped and secured.
The planets are ordered by fastest (moon) through slowest (Saturn) – given that movement = possibilism, this proves that the essential proper use of astral ascent mysticism is, you transform from movement (possibilism) to timeless eternalism.
Proof I’m right; proof that the basic, heimarmene-pursuing model of astral ascent mysticism makes sense:
- Saturn is slow, and the fixed stars are non-moving.
- Moon is fastest-moving, thus is most possibilism-looking.
- Saturn is the least-moving of the moving planetary stars.
- The fixed stars don’t move.
- The empyrean fires burn above the fixed, non-moving, non-planetary stars.
My system is coherent.
Wouter Hanegraaff states that the zodiac constellations = heimarmene – yet, he says he can’t figure out whether to place the fixed stars in Saturn moving-plantary level 7, or in level 8 ogdoad. Total incomprehension. Fixed stars (= heimarmene) are obviously — a plain given — higher than moving planetary level 7, thus level 8, ogdoad. But he screws up claiming that ogdoad = above heimarmene. So, he can’t put fixed stars in moving planet level 7, and he can’t put them in level 8 b/c he thinks 8 is functionally same as 9 ie above heimarmene.
SO HE PUTS THE FIXED STARS/ ZODIAC/ CONSTELLATIONS …. NOWHERE!! WHAT A TOTAL DISASTER OF ANALOGY. A FAILED COSMOS MODEL, CAN’T HANDLE PLACING FIXED STARS ANYWHERE.
That’s how insane, confused, irrational, & unhelpful the perversely inverted narrative is, “Psilocybin makes you switch from eternalism to possibilism”.
A failed, garbled, incoherent analogy system is almost inevitable, starting from such a false representation of the referent (how the mind transforms by Psilocybin) that’s to be described by the analogy-system.
Standard astral ascent mysticism is coherent and consistent, not a CHILDISH and REGRESSIVE railing temper tantrum against fate, that smears level 0-8 all equally as “evil fate”, with no meaningful progress through stages.
Just: evil fate 0, then evil fate 1, then evil fate 2, then evil fate 3, then evil fate 4, then evil fate 5, then evil fate 6, then evil fate 7, then evil fate 8 … then freedom!
Or in Wouter Hanegraaff’s even more garbled, senseless model of astral ascent mysticism:
Just: evil fate 0, then evil fate 1, then evil fate 2, then evil fate 3, then evil fate 4, then evil fate 5, then evil fate 6, then evil fate 7 … then freedom level 8 along with freedom level 9!
The correct, well-formed actual legit system of astral ascent mysticism:
naive possibilism-thinking (0), then 1/8 eternalism-thinking (moon); then 2/8; 3/8; 4/8; 5/8; 6/8; 7/8 ie Saturn, reaching the main pursuit: 8/8 fixed stars (heimarmene as main destination)… then, bonus: transcend eternalism (9; the empyrean; transcendent freewill).
which reduces to the false, unhelpful, 2-level model: “Psilocybin transforms the mental model from the starting-state of eternalism to the end-state of possibilism.”
Per the legit, real, original, Early Antiquity 2-level model — per the correct use of analogy to help clarify and explain a thing — Psilocybin transforms the mental model from possibilism to eternalism; possibilism-thinking to eternalism-thinking (where “eternalism-thinking” is defined in a broad sense, in the 2-level scheme, as including qualified possibilism-thinking).
“Beyond the stars”, used correctly and helpfully, actually means above level 8, the sphere of the fixed stars (Heimarmene).
ie what we arrive at, after 8 Psilocybin sessions, is eternalism; we begin w/ possibilism.
And in a way, we can move on past eternalism to qualified possibilism-thinking.
Wouter Hanegraaff is awful model b/c he never has us pursue and strive to reach eternalism.
He acts like we are given eternalism as our starting point, and the whole stage-by-stage journey is eternalism every step of the way, never as a goal, and our effort during every stage is to move from eternalism to possibilism.
That broken down, DECADENT model from ancient Hermeticists is nothing but unhelpful MAKING SH!T UP, clever inversions of the truth.
The penalty is, lose all comprehension and lose all transformation, and make a god out of rank egoic childish untransformed naive possibilism-thinking.
Revel in egoic thinking, by ingesting Wouter Hanegraaff’s non-drug entheogens and studying ancients in order to demonize heimarmene, never to pursue mental grasp & retaining of revealed heimarmene/ eternalism.
In the worst way, Wouter Hanegraaff delivers nothing but unproductive & unenlightening “interesting myth used to disparage fate”.
Astral ascent mysticism instead SHOULD be an analogy system that helps explain & clarify the mental model transformation that actually happens via a series of Psilocybin immersion sessions.
THE FIRST GOAL OF Transcendent Knowledge IS TO ARRIVE AT ETERNALISM.
The starting point is not eternalism. The starting point is possibilism, and the hardest mission is to retain the Psilocybin revelation of eternalism.
What he means, wrongly & unhelpfully, is that fate = level 0 (earth) & the MOVING stars level 1 (moon) through 7, [ignore fixed stars bc he says he can’t figure out where they go!], then when reach 8th which he says is functionally same as 9th, = transcend fate; reach possibilism-thinking.
Wouter Hanegraaff’s malformed and confused system of astral ascent mysticism lacks fixed stars in level 8. So, he confusedly thinks of level 8 & 9 as outside the (moving) “stars” — that is, outside/above the planets.
If that’s an ancient scheme, it’s a horrible scheme, terrible mis-use of analogy, garbage compared to the rightly standard scheme.
Such out-of-control myth is a failure to do analogy, given that ‘analogy’ is the clarifying explanation of something.
It’s analogy mis-used (& underutilized) just to smear fate, instead of clarifying and explaining to assist the full course of mental model transformation.
In the book Hermetic Spirituality and the Historical Imagination: Altered States of Knowledge in Late Antiquity, by Wouter Hanegraaff, 2022, Wouter Hanegraaff is so confused, he says the highest star is Saturn, and that is 100% heimarmene, and that level 8 above it doesn’t contain fixed stars, and is transcendeing heimarmene and also level 9 exactly same, is also transcendening heimarmene.
Total confusion: Wouter Hanegraaff starts with the confusion that the terrible Hermeticists fabricated when they claimed falsely that every PLANETARY level 0-8 = 100% eternalism / heimarmene, as well as (this part is correct) level 8 fixed stars = 100% heimarmene.
Then Wouter Hanegraaff starts with their falsehood & confusion, and he does much worse, silently jamming the fixed stars into planetary moving sphere 8 saturn (with extreme confusion throughout his book), and then claims level 8 = freewill / transcending heimarmene.
what a fkking wreck!!
Jesus, ppl, it’s simple:
THE MOST IMPORTANT STARTING POINT IS: LEVEL 8 IS FIXED STARS IS 100% HEIMARMENE.
Get clear on that!
Then, after you are clear on that, then relate the lower, previous, planetary levels in relation to that:
Given that a child begins with possibilism-thinking, and the actual effect of Psilocybin is transformation from possibilism to eternalism, in stages, Psilocybin session 1-8 = … exact %’s:
level 0 = 100% possibilism.
level 8 = 100% eternalism
Then elaborate from that firm, true, correct use of analogy to expalin, NOT TO CONFUSE AND KICK AGAINST REALITY! Of how the mind transforms via Psilocybin.
Should I be more mad at ancient Hermeticism decadents, or Hanegraff for adding his confusion to their hyper-heimarmene desparaging lies?
Just as Neoplatonism railed against Gnosticism, I rail against Hermeticism insofar as Hermeticism has the terrible, awful idea of applying 100% “heimarmene” to all planet levels 1-7.
As you go lower 3, 2, 1, 0 earth = child, we reach the real starting point, of naive possibilism-thinking – NOT eternalism-thinking!
It is true, that underneath all levels is hidden eternalism / heimarmene.
But, the mental model starts as naive possibilism-thinking, despite the truth of hidden underlying engine-level is heimarmene/ eternalism.
The correct use of analogy (astral ascent mysticism) is to describe development of the mental model – NOT to highlight the hidden underlying heimarmene / eternalism which underlies all levels of mental development via Psilocybin.
The latter is stupid & useless, pretending that “levels 0-8 = eternalism / heimarmene, then level 9 = transcending heimarmene”.
What a garbage system the latter is, it fails to do the job that an analogy needs to do: help explain something.
The proper use of astral ascent mysticism as analogy to explain and clarify the actual mental trajectory of Psilocybin initiation stages
The proper use of astral ascent mysticism is to explain and CLARIFY how mental model starts from naive possibilism-thinking , then eventually reaches & retains by stages 100% eternalism-thinking; and after that greatest achievement, then finally can transcend heimarmene/ eternalism in some important, useful, meaningful way, to reach qualified possibilism-thinking including eternalism-thinking.
Levels: / spheres of cosmos per Ptolemaic astral ascent mysticism:
- 0 – Earth = 0% eternalism. Do not say heimarmene/ eternalism is here, for child-thinking, as the starting point of mental development!
- 1 – Moon = 1/8 eternalism – first Psilocybin session /initiation.
- 2 – Mercury = 2/8 eternalism. 2nd Psilocybin session of loose cognition {fire}.
- 3 – Venus = 3/8 grasp & retaining of eternalism.
- 4 – Sun = 4/8
- 5 – Mars = 5/8 conformity with eternalism.
- 6 – Jupiter = 6/8 eternalism.
- 7 – Saturn = 7/8 eternalism – the 7th Psilocybin session /initiation.
- 8 – Fixed Stars = 100% eternalism, grasped and permanently retained. The 8th Psilocybin immersion.
- 9 – Empyrean; transcend eternalism.
Ptolemaic Astral Ascent Mysticism

8 firmament = fixed stars
9 = PRIMO MOBILE ORAS REVOLUCAO D O
10 = CELUM EMPIREUM – HABITACULUM DEI ET OMNIUM ELECTORUM
OUTSIDE = 11 = ANGELS, HYPERCOSMIC LIGHT, CRUCIFIXION, GOD
per this image’s mapping:
8 = firmament = fixed stars – I already established that. Do we have a feeble mapping of “transcendent freewill” that is restricted to 1 flimsy level? Or 3 levels, in which case, what is the difference between the 3 levels that are above heimarmene? compare: what’s the difference between moon level 1 vs satur level 7 vs. stars level 8? ans: increasing grasp of eternalism during series of 8 Psilocybin sessions, then the 9th Psilocybin session puts you above heimarmene.
9 = PRIMO MOBILE ORAS REVOLUCAO D O – others say “precession of equinoxes” is here.
10 = CELUM EMPIREUM – HABITACULUM DEI ET OMNIUM ELECTORUM
11 = OUTSIDE = ANGELS, HYPERCOSMIC LIGHT, CRUCIFIXION, GOD
Other maps have 1 (or 2?) higher levels above fixed stars.
This map has 2 spheres above fixed stars (+ the “regress” region outside all spheres). 3 levels, if include outside region.
- Earth – 0
- Water
- Air
- Fire
- 🌙 Moon – 1
- ☿ Mercury – 2
- Venus – 3
- ☀️ Sun – 4
- Mars – 5
- ♃ Jupiter – 6
- ♄ Saturn – 7
- 🌌 Firmament of fixed stars – 8 – the Ogdoad — 36,000 years per revolution
- Prime mover – 9 – the Ennead
- 🔥🔥🔥 Empireum – 10 – Here resides God and all the elect
The number of the sphere is the number of Psilocybin immersions:
- To reach eternalism = 8th = 8 Psilocybin sessions.
- To transcend heimarmene = reaching the Ogdoad = 9th sphere = 9 Psilocybin sessions.
The right & worthwhile use of astral ascent mysticism (not harmfully, confusingly clever) should be to explain and CLARIFY Psilocybin transformation.
Mythic analogy when used for good, to clarify and explain and model how the mind transforms by Psilocybin, must state clearly and unambiguously that the immature youth’s initial starting point, the starting state or stage prior to any initiation is initial possibilism-thinking that’s initially oblivious to the reality of later-revealed, re-revealed-by-stages, eternalism, each session retaining and mentally modelling the hidden and increasingly revealed fatedness a little more.
Fatedness is always the case, but there is no development at that underlying, normally hidden level.
Myth that’s focused only on the underlying level (fate) because you are out to disrespect & insult fate, is “not wrong, but not helpful” — in fact is very harmful, by a misplaced focus on wrong level.
Focusing all during levels 0-8 on the lower level, of fate, is the mis-use of analogy to smear fate, instead of using analogy to clarify & explain how the mind first struggles to achieve perceiving hidden fatedeness, and finally manages to maintain and retain that vision — requiring dedicated pursuit at length, the grandest achievement — and then in some way can “transcend” fatedness.
The cost of that funny, clever, advanced-level myth inversion to present an ironically inverted model, “Psilocybin transforms the mind from eternalism to possibilism [wink]” is that we lose the comprehensibility of myth.
Thanks to the cute and clever, impressive advanced-level play with myth, we lose & forfeit Psilocybin transformation.
Analogy (religious myth) should be used to CLARIFY, not to confuse and obscure under ironic confusing inversion.
Other schemes are bunk and disaster. perverse. degenerate. DECADENT.
False analogies mis-describing mental model transformation out of overzealous hatred for heimarmene / eternalism.
Systems like ancient Hermeticism that screw with this scheme suck and are failure and inferior.
Mithraism is the greatest model of Late Antiquity – see David Ulansey
I don’t know if Mithraism starts with naive possibilism-thinking (freewill) prior to initiation.
Does Mithraism tell the non-development story: we start w/ fate, then 1st Psilocybin session gives fate.
Then fate fate fate fate fate fate fate fate fate fate, then salvation into transcendent freewill.
Which is the worthless story per the book Hermetic Spirituality and the Historical Imagination: Altered States of Knowledge in Late Antiquity, by Wouter Hanegraaff, 2022.
Mithraism correctly represents the Psilocybin transformation of mental model — assuming that children in society have a decent chance to develop naive possibilism-thinking and are not immediately debauched/ violated by being raised within eternalism-thinking.
If Hellenistic culture was TOO eternalism-saturated, then we never undergo transformation, b/c child is never allowed to develop natural naive possibilism-thinking but is immediately programmed with eternalism-thinking unnaturally and prematurely.
Today [March 5, 2025] voice recording discusses variants of astral ascent mysticism — decadent psychotic dysfunctional (however Ken Wilber describes the psychological developmental collapse and disintegration, regression, disintegrative collapse and regression, failure; vs. healthy well-formed that affirm eternalism-thinking and preserve it and respect heimarmene and build above heimarmene.
That bad awful Late Antiquity direction is when like the bad Hermeticists who confuse Wouter Hanegraaff, when they claim falsely and unhelpfully that EVERY level 1-8 = heimarmene.
That narrative (fate sucks, fate sucks, etc.) unhelpfully overemphasizes the wrong thing, that doesn’t even progress at all during Psilocybin session 1 (moon) through 8 (fixed stars).
Should be: mental model is naive possibilism-thinking; then 1/8 eternalism, then 2/8… 7/8, 8/8 eternalism … then transcend eternalism.
Make a model that shows and explains progress – can’t do that if level 0-8 are all “evil fate”; that is not a model of Psilocybin transformation sesssions series using {fire} to bake the mind in purgatory for a while.
The bad result is the model: mental model transformation starts with fate, and ends with transcending fate; a simple, FALSE and unhlepful 2-level model of transformation from possibilism to eternalism possibilism.
THE WORST MODEL OF ALL IS THE 2-LEVEL MODEL OF TRANSFORMATION FROM ETERNALISM TO POSSIBILISM.
Like some in Late Antiquity, in their immature, frothing zeal to radically oppose their grandparents’ revering of heimarmene.
They simply took their forebears’ simple basic true 2-level model “transformation from possibilism to eternalism” and simply inverted it, with their excuse being,
- Heimarmene/ eternalism is always (secretly, hiddenly) the case during transformation from possibilism to eternalism, and,
- You end up w/ practical possibilism-thinking, as Wm James argues,
- so, it’s fine to do mythmaking, of a 2-level model that’s simply inverted from Early Antiquity’s 2-level model.
Grampa says Psilocybin transforms you from possibilism to eternalism; so we clever rebels say “F You, grampa!! Psilocybin transforms you from eternalism to possibilism!“
“Instead of transformation from possibilism to eternalism, re: how the mind transforms, our tale is transformation from child/immature eternalism, to adult/mature possibilism – what’s wrong w/ that? It’s a clever inversion!”
“The important thing is to give the finger to heimarmene/ eternalism/ fate! That’s what religious myth is best used for.”
Reminds me of awful 1st-generation entheogen scholarship (the Secret Amanita paradigm), where they ruin the field by thinking that the most important thing is not psychedelics, but rather, telling their social-drama narrative of the mushroom-having counterculture vs. the mushroom-oppressing mainstream.
Thomas Hatsis the psychedelic medieval historian says, against the runaway Allegro/ Ruck narrative, there is no evidence that Christianity prohibited or suppressed mushrooms.
Bad Late Antiquity mythmaking falsely and wrongly claims that Psilocybin transforms the mental model from initial child-mode eternalism-thinking to possibilism-thinking, that we start as children w/ eternalism-thinking, and maturation is the Psilocybin transforming to transcendent possibilism-thinking.
As if the child’s mind starts with fate-awareness at earth/sub-lunar level 0, then starts initiation sessions, ingesting Psilocybin in a series of sessions causing the following phases of (non-) transformation:
fate (Earth, prior to Psilocybin initiation)
fate (moon; 1st Psilocybin immersion),
fate (Mercury 2),
fate (Venus 3),
fate (Sun 4),
fate (Mars; 5th Psilocybin immersion),
fate (Jupiter 6),
fate (Saturn 7),
fate (fixed stars 8),
possibilism (empyrean 9) 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
As if every developmental phase is fate, then suddenly and finally, Possibilism that transcends fate. That’s the model of Hermeticism according to Wouter Hanegraaff — but I caught him quoting someone, and then saying what the passage said — except the passage does not say what he says it says! His book is a mix of valid coherent statements, and a FORCED SKEW TRYING TO MAKE UP A STORY OF
FATE FATE FATE FATE FATE FATE FATE FATE FATE FATE FATE FREEWILL
Not even a developmental sequence!
The mind’s ACTUAL development is:
- naive possibilism-thinking (0% eternalism) – Earth
- 1/8 eternalism – Moon
- 2/8 eternalism – Mercury
- 3/8 eternalism – Venus
- 4/8 eternalism – Sun
- 5/8 eternalism – Mars
- 6/8 eternalism – Jupiter
- 7/8 eternalism – Saturn; 7th moving planet
- 100% eternalism – fixed stars (Ogdoad/8) (ALL-IMPORTANT POINT OF REF.)
- transcend eternalism – March 7 2025: precession of equinoxes, level 9
- March 7 2025: alleged oscillation (imagined incorrectly) of precession – the TREPIDATION OF PRECESSION sphere, level 10 – probably put primum mobile here
- Empyrean: dwelling God & elect, level 11
Such an abuse of analogy [corrupting the above model — which is a CLARIFYING model — by switching your attention to the hidden underlying level, in which fate is a non-developing constant] has lost any utility to help move from the actual starting point to revelation of fate and beyond, and becomes nothing but complaining 9 times (levels 0-8) about underlying fate, and then putting ALL attention exclusively on the move from fate to transcendent possibilism.
What a stupid waste of a system/model, a waste of potential analogy that could be helpful to explain actual mental model transformation.
Another Good Voice Recording in the Series – “Perception of Eternalism” Entry in Effects Index, Josie Kins
Another good voice recording in the series of about 6 tracks so far; today Mar 5 2025 did read-through of Effects Index article not yet read aloud Josie Kins commentary. Yesterday the article short entry seemed good.
Today’s reading, I wished to halt at each sentence and critique it; the page isn’t that good.
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Status Mar 8 2025: I have yet to read aloud & record, Josie Kins’ commentary about the entry. All recent voice recordings are good and I want to hear them as episodes of Egodeath Mystery Show, now at 6324 not started.
But, my recent writings here are sufficiently equivalent, so no huge need to listen to the recordings.
I like – i think i wrote up – my voice recording discovery , devmt of the idea:
Biased argumentation. It doesn’t matter which args a MICA Deniers puts forth, the strategy underlying all of them is: put forth many directions of argn, none of them valid, but, count on the audience to be predudiced in favor of any pseduo-argument that’s negative.
Present any mediocre or weird argument – that’s not really even an argument, like Ronald Huggins’ 2024 article “Foraging for Psychedelic Mushrooms in the Wrong Forest: The Great Canterbury Psalter as a Medieval Test Case” — Conclusion paragraph says “we can use Erwin Panofsky’s ‘branches” arg – image has branches therefore not mushroom — to “articulate criteria to deicde if image of mushroom-trees is a mushroom or if it is a tree. summary: no mushroom-trees is ever mushroom , because it has tree features.
obviously the ONLY ppl who consider that to even be an “argument”is ppl who are prejudiced MICA Deniers, because the ultra obvious screeamingly obvious counter arg is:
Every mushroom-tree has to be mushroom and can’t possibly be tree, b/c the mushroom imagery elements “RULE OUT” [say it w/ the confidence of a con artist, to cover the total illegitimacy] the image being a tree. That is the garbatge quality of teh “arg’n”(??) – sheer biased assertion — in the Concl of Foraging in Wrong Forest.
IS THIS EVEN A FALLACY? IT’S A BLUFF, A PRETENDING TO ARGUE.
Now put forward ten more weird, arbitrary, strange-direction, illegit arguments, that aren’t even arguments, and COUNT ON THE PREJUDICED AUDIENCE TO AGREE THIS IS COMPELLING ARG’N.
Erwin Panofsky “argues” the Plaincourault fresco can’t be mushroom, because [you are ignorant and blundering, and] there are hundreds of other mushroom-trees.
ie he and Wasson insert “argument by personal insult”, main “arg” is:
Any given mushroom image can’t mean mushroom, because there are [you are ignorant]
part of me wants to treat the inserted insult as a distinct move – BUT – Wasson so integrates this insult, this jab, as if to distract you from noticing that his arg is completely fallacious and non sequtur; Does Not Follow.
Wasson’s strategy:
My argument Does Not Follow, but pay no attention: look here: YOU MYCOLOGISTS ARE BLUNDERING IGNORAMUSES. <– pay attwention to that insult, not to my bunk non-argument that no mushroom image can mean mushroom, “BECAUSE” there are hundreds of equivalent images. The Erwin Panofsky arg, quote: __
https://egodeaththeory.org/2025/01/07/panofskys-letters-to-wasson-transcribed/#Sentence-1-4 – Erwin Panofsky wrote to Wasson in 1952:
“The Plaincourault fresco is only one example — and, since the style is very provincial, a particularly deceptive one — of a conventionalized [compare Hug RHETORIC “completely formulaic” – which his prejudiced audience hears as “so, not mushroom”, but I hear as: “the formula = mushroom“] tree type, prevalent in Romanesque and Early Gothic art, which art historians actually refer to as “mushroom tree” [the bluff here, the pseudo-argument that’s crafted to rely on depending on prejudiced audience: “We made the term, so, not mushroom“; “we are boringly familar w/ our pilzbaum, so, not mushroom] or, in German writing, Pilzbaum.
“It comes about by the gradual schematization [yeah, you mean the sustained emphatic mushroomization] of the impressionistically rendered Italian pine tree in Roman and Early Christian painting, and there are hundreds of instances exemplifying this development – unknown, of course, to mycologists.”
There are many, many, many; therefore, we are very very very certain that this one mushroom-tree cannot mean mushroom.
Because YOU are IGNORANT of the fact that there are so many.
Which fallacies are those?
- argument from distracting personal insult, mixed with:
- argument from quantity, which is really, argument from prejudiced presupposition, or silent covert circular reasoning, also:
- argument from silent proxy: it’s just a given that we all agree that our verdict on the Plaincourault fresco is our verdict on the hundreds of mushroom-trees, such that we can leverage the prejudiced assumption that the hundreds of mushroom-trees are not mushroom, to conclude that the Plaincourault fresco is not mushroom either.
- BUT what if the biased interpretation tilts the other way? Then I say; MICA Affirmers say: Yes, we know, all the thousands of mushroom-trees are all mushroom, which “proves”, therefore, the Plaincourault fresco is mushroom too.
- That is, illegit non sequiturs & circular reasoning cuts both ways, MICA Deniers.
- it’s also argument from authority mixed in.
Which one of the 28 known fallacies, that are mixed together here, is the driving one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnNZLxmkBbQ&t=55s
T. Fontaine
The Reveries (thereveries.org) – Eleusinian Mysteries

This section is full copypaste of the page.
- No quote marks.
- Sentence per paragraph.
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https://thereveries.org/thereveries.html
For over 2000 years of human history, a cultural practice was held near Athens to commune with death, to honour the great journey of life, and to ‘die’ before you die.
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It was known as the Eleusinian Mysteries and most of Greece and Rome’s top philosophers, poets and leaders were initiates.
It is widely believed that Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Pericles, Cicero, Hadrian and Marcus Aurelius experienced the Mysteries.
However women, slaves and children were also initiated.
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Based around the story of Persephone’s abduction by Hades and her mother Demeter’s wild search to bring her back to the land of the living, the Mysteries honour the cycle of life and death, the wondrous unknowing of the afterlife.
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Through the lens of modern science, especially through the fields of archaeology, philology, theology, anthropology, art history and classics, we have pieced together some information about the Mysteries.
However, we don’t know much- reverence for the Mysteries compelled initiates to observe the mandatory law of silence about what happened in the Telesterion and so testimonies over those 2,000 years are scant.
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We do know that initiates were guaranteed happiness in the afterlife and the initiations were physically, mentally and emotionally demanding.
They involved mind-altering performances, substances and revelations.
Participants emerged with a profound sense of peace which altered the rest of their lives.
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“Happy are those among mortals who have seen these mysteries; but whoever is uninitiate, will never have the same (good) fortune once in the darkness of Hades.”
— Homeric Hymn to Demeter, 7th–6th century BCE”
Book about Reintroducing Psychedelics in Western Religion (Fontaine 2025), & TheReveries.org (Email from Fontaine May 4, 2025)
T. Fontaine wrote:
Hello Michael,
“I’m researching the Eleunisian Mysteries, and found your website, Egodeath.com & EgodeathTheory.WordPress.com.
“I’m helping a friend on this project: thereveries.org
“I’m writing a book about the reintroduction of psychedelic use in the occidental world.
“We should connect because we are getting people involved in the project of rebuilding the Mysteries of Eleusis; the Eleusinian Mysteries.
“The group was started by Psychiatrists, and then expanded to a larger range of expert psychonauts.
“I’m gathering feedback about the book draft.”
Thanks, T. Fontaine
Eleusis = 2-level Revere Heimarmene; Mithraism = 3-level Transcend Heimarmene (Email 1 to Fontaine May 5, 2025)
I have a sure-footed, simple model of mental transformation in 500 BC psychedelic mystery initiations, including how Greek myth describes that.
But, caveat: that model becomes inadequate in 150 AD, when the next cultural move was to build another transformation above that resulting state, and add more sophisticated complex level of religious myth above that.
The success of explaining 500 BC psychedelic mystery transformation & myth, should not be mistaken as a fully adequate explanation for subsequent developments (& failures or losses & forgettings).
i have to check if thick 2012 book by Paul Lundborg matches this. He covers ancient psychedelia & psychedelics-inspired Rock.
2013 book Cosmology & Fate by Nicola Denzy Lewis ( i posted a helpful review in 2014), matches my story of complication in 150 AD, the era of rejecting Greek reverence for psychedelic heimarmene (yet preserving – for a short time – comprehension of Psilocybin transformation & revealed heimarmene).
Luther Martin’s two books were suggestive about this being the key contrast between Early Antiquity vs Late Antiquity: both were based on psychedelic revelation of heimarmene (no-free-will ; fatedness; pre-existing control thoughts lying unavoidably on one’s future worldline) but Late Antiquity flipped their attitude against revealed heimarmene.
500 BC Mystery Religions revered Psilocybin-revealed heimarmene. But Late Antiquity resented it & built a higher layer of myth/ religion/ narrative to make up a strory of “transcending heimarmene / fate”.
Our successful but limited explanation of Mystery Religions must take that 150 AD developmental elaboration into account.
Yesterday I thought I was bored of all videos about esotericism (& even boreder of dead-end “mythicist” channels repeating – in a superficial way – my work in such scholarship in 2005).
But I woke up when Esoterica channel’s Dr. Justin Sledge spoke at length confirming that all brands of religion flipped against fatedness (while still (for a while) strongly affirming fatedness) – it confirmed Coraxo’s astute correction of me, or Coraxo’s helpful tip & heads-up for me in 2000:
A simple basic 2-level model explains 500 bc Greek Mystery Religions psychedelic/ Psilocybin transformation (transformation from possibilism to eternalism).
BUT, that simple successful explanatory model cannot explain the twist and complication of religious myth that was done in 150 AD, in all greco roman Christian jewish religions eg Mithraism, Christianity, Neoplatonism, gnosticism, Hermeticism.
con’t below
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Glad to see you write “reintroduced”.
I wish meditation advocates (book Zig Zag Zen) would think in terms of re-adding psychedelics, instead of assuming it’s an innovation.
I thought Ralph Metzner or someone wrote that the 1960s made a huge misstep there, acting as if psychedelics are a new thing, but the Meditation hucksters can’t learn that lesson.
Meditation’s ok, but trashcan the lies told by meditation hucksters to diminish instead of glorify Psilocybin, which is the origin of meditation.
I finally got The Immortality Key by Brian Muraresku, 2020.
I was asked to review it mid-2020 before it was published.
I’ve read a few pages of TIK.
I like it more than Cyberdisciple does – Cyberdisciple did the in-depth review that I was supposed to do.
https://cyberdisciple.wordpress.com/?s=muraresku
[such Search link can be good b/c does not cause a “comment” posted from me at Cyberdisciple site]
Maybe a good aspect is because Muraresku is Catholic – im extremely tired of ppl fixating on telling anti-Christian narrative.
I applaud Muraresku proposing we RE-add & RESTORE psychedelics to Christianity.
Many naysayers – Harvard dean Chs Stang – have criticisms of Muraresku, on various points – but I love this proposal from Mura, even tho I doubt ergot & I am committed to proposing Psilocybin instead, as the main psychedelic in Hellenistic & Christian origins.
I’m surprised I’m not critical of the book The Immortality Key by Brian Muraresku, 2020. I’m seeing it as glass half full, not empty.
Cyberdisciple’s critical review set my expectations so low, that I feel positive about the book so far.
I like Brian Muraresku’s bold, assertive speculations. I used to be anti-ergot theories, and the book is too focused on ergot, not Psilocybin, but I don’t pay too much attention to that distinction lately.
I’m more fighting against the extreme overemphasis on Secret Amanita at the expense of straightforward Psilocybin use in European religious history (a shocking, unthinkable phrase according to entrenched 1st-Gen entheogen scholarship dogma).
i HATE 1st-generation entheogen scholarship (the Secret Amanita paradigm)
i am out to DESTROY the placing of more emph on “secret” than on psychedelics.
i LOATHE the elevation of Amanita over Psilocybin, in 1st-Gen entheogen scholarship.
i KICK OUT John Allegro, & Carl Dr. Secret Ruck [Allegro & Ruck in certain respects].
Cyberdisciple makes the case that Allegro is not even an entheogen scholar at all , and should be totally removed from entheogen scholarship – yet, pop culture (per outdated 1st-generation entheogen scholarship (the Secret Amanita paradigm)) has 100% equated Allegro w/ the proposal of mushroom imagery in Christian art.
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I plan to look at that page from you – this view doesn’t show me your email content while composing.
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I suddenly find myself juggling 3 degrees of precision of models of how the mind transforms due to psychedelics.
If 500 BC Greece was 100% influenced by psychedelics, my model of mental transformation might not apply, if children were raised in a culture that was saturated with psychedelic enlightenment.
I’m considering some 4 variant models of how Psilocybin transforms the mind, in eras:
500 BC: a child has weak egoic thinking, quickly transforms to intitiates’ type of thinking, bc the culture was extremely attuned to the psychedelic revelation perspective.
150 AD: everyone still believed in fatedness (heimarmene), but now took a negative attitude toward fatedness, and they added a layer of transcendent freewill on top of that in a valid, healthy, helpful way.
500(?) AD: everyone forgets the disparaged fatedness revelation.
Instead of enlightenment & transcendent freewill, we’re left with confused version of advanced religious myth, & mere naive, untransformed childlike freewill thinking. Stung by the Pre/Trans Fallacy.
The cost of so hating the revelation of fatedness, is that we lost understanding of myth, of psychedelic transformation, & we lost Psilocybin.
Modern era: Newton 1687; 20th C: 1980s psychedelics: & 1960s: We start to rediscover the basic model of 500 BC Mystery Religions culture/ society, in which a child initially, briefly (fleeting & delicate) has naive freewill thinking , then undergoes psychedelic transformation to reveal fatedness.
In the Modern era, I form in 1988 & write up a basic 2-level model of that in 1997.
Then Erik Davis summarizes my simple model in his 2005 book Led Zeppelin IV p. 118 & 122. BUT!:
In 2000, Coraxo in the Gnosticism Yahoo Group points out to me that Gnosticism aimed to transcend my simple basic 2-level model.
1998-2004, building on Gnosis magazine of 1990s, I had to, around 2004, add a more precise & nuanced, 3-level model including “transcending fate/ determinism”.
— Michael
In 150 AD, Eleusis Added “Transcend Eternalism” Theme (Email 2 to Fontaine May 5, 2025)
A super interesting question discovered below: After 150 AD, doesn’t the Eleusinian Mystery Religion have to add the promise of “transcending heimarmene” theme, to compete w all other brands at that time?
My first email was good, but omitted my main recent study/ era, Medieval-era fully developed use of Psilocybin, to fill in my previous timeline in that email.
The Medieval heyday, i discovered, of fully developed Psilocybin use.
That discovery was especially based on a godsend for me, high-res Great Canterbury Psalter, awesomer proof than i couldve imagined possible, of my theory of psychedelic mental model transformation.
A huge discovery that was an offshoot of writing an article requested by Dr Jerry Brown who asked if Cyberdisciple & i had wriiten up compelling evidence & criteria of proof and for identifying mushroom imagery in Christian art.
In the first email, i mentioned Newton 1687 because that is when Western Esotericism (& Psilocybin as part of that), was forgotten.
I dream of writing a book that’s a history of determinism (no-free-will).
Offhand, I don’t know how cultural belief in freewill changed when Western Esotericism was forgotten around 1687.
I haven’t theorized about that point, as I recall.
Against everyone, ie against 1st-generation entheogen scholarship (the Secret Amanita paradigm), I proved that 1000-1400 AD was a heyday of fully developed use of Psilocybin, depicted in mushroom imagery in Christian art.
Art is nicer than text, because art’s limitations forces you to stay basic & simple: 2-level model; Psilocybin simply transforms the mental model of control from possibilism to eternalism.
That’s an overgeneralization. Counterexample:
In 150 AD, Mithraism uses art/ sculpture to specifically emphasize/ depict transcending determinism/ heimarmene.
So art CAN depict transcending eternalism, especially by using the geocentric cosmos model: Above the sphere of the fixed stars = transcend fate.
astral ascent mysticism; Ptolemaic astral ascent mysticism.
my later writings not in the email. Mar 6 2025:
Depictions of the cosmos, Earth-centered – especially my anchor point, sure-footed, is: fixed stars = heimarmene.
Start by locking that idea down (fixed stars = full grasp of eternalism, as in the 8th Psilocybin initiation session), and then relate the lower & higher levels/ spheres / Psilocybin initiation phases — to that.
As Erik Davis says [Led Zeppelin IV, 2005, p. 118], there are variants of astral ascent mysticism.
The best variant of astral ascent mysticism is that which starts by assigning fixed stars = heimarmene.
If Late Antiquity switches that mapping all up (as in Hermeticism per the book Hermetic Spirituality and the Historical Imagination: Altered States of Knowledge in Late Antiquity, by Wouter Hanegraaff, 2022), I resent and reject that perversion and destruction of astral ascent mysticism.
A parasitic, destructive revision of astral ascent mysticism in 150 AD to change it to “fate fate fate fate fate fate fate fate then transcend fate”, divorces astral ascent mysticism from its proper helpful useful role as analogy helping to clarify and explain how the mind transforms from Psilocybin.
History of the earth-centered cosmos model: 310 BC Greek guy, then another guy, then latecomer Ptolemy who is given too much credit for inventing scientific (not mystical) astral ascent mysticism model.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geocentric_model – Aristarchus (c. 310 – c. 230 BC) developed a heliocentric model placing all of the then-known planets in their correct order around the Sun.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristarchus_of_Samos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipparchus discovered precession 162 – 127 BC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ptolemy
- 310–230 BC Aristarchus – spheres cosmos model – no precession of equinoxes.
- 162-127 BC Hipparchus – adds precession.
- 150 AD Ptolemy — adds precision.
Early systems enable astral ascent mysticism – they had the simple concept “beyond the stars”, which IMPLIES they, at such early time, WAY before Ptolemy, had concept “stars = heimarmene, you can go higher than that/ outside boundary of cosmos”.
We don’t have to have “precession” to already have the MOST important key concept, “going above the stars = transcending eternalism”.
As soon as we have planet spheres in 310 BC, we ALREADY have concept “higher than stars” ie [when we use cosmos model for mystic level mapping] transcend heimarmene.
todo: Confirm that Aristarchus knows “fixed stars, level 8 past Saturn, & “higher than fixed stars” / “outside the cosmos” – highly worthwhile question.
Way back in 310 BC [ie the year Aristarchus formed the spheres model], we already had a mental picture supporting the idea “transcend heimarmene”.
The geocentric cosmos model in astronomy science INHERENTLY presents us with the picture depiction of “past/ above/ higher than / outside of the sphere of fixed stars” = transcend heimarmene.
This Medieval mushroom-trees art motif genre is like 500 BC Greek Mystery Religions’ model of Psilocybin transformation/ initiation & myth describing that, in that:
Both ancient/classical (500-300 BC) Greek Mystery Religion & the Medieval mushroom-tree genre (1000-1400 AD) are mainly a 2-level model that terminates in revering fatedness, not the 150 AD-era, mainly 3-level model that affirms & resents enslavement to fate & describes & constructs, in some way, “transcending fatedness”.
In 150 AD they did that by advanced-level, adept mythmaking — or myth revision — that we must differentiate from earlier, basic Psilocybin transformation 2-level myth.
I here have set up a GREAT Historiography research programme to trace these ideas across eras:
In each era: what cosmos model? what attitude about heimarmene? what evidence of Psilocybin transformation? what use of myth as analogy?
- 500 BC-300 BC – Classical Antiquity (part of my period “Early Antiquity”)
- 323 BC- 30 BC – Hellenistic (part of my period “Early Antiquity”)
- 150 AD – 750 AD – Late Antiquity
- 1000 AD – 1400 AD – Medieval heyday of mushroom-trees genre; fully developed use of Psilocybin.
- 1400 AD- 1687 AD – proto-modern(?) era; late Medieval(?) — a distinct phase relative to my concerns. Western Esotericism/ Psilocybin/ mushroom-trees comprehension was present but fading.
todo: give the year of each art image that I study, in mushroom-trees genre. - 1687 AD – 2000 AD – Early Modern
I tentatively believe there were only 1,300 revolutions of the Earth around the sun, between the year we call 1 and the year we call 2000.
ie subtract 700 years from the timeline per Edwin Johnson 1895, Fomenko, Chronology Revisionism. See Egodeath.com.
Eleusis = Early Antiquity = 2-level model giving heimarmene. = Medieval mushroom-tree art.
/ end of my later writings Mar 6 2025
My email continues below:
Mithraism [the best, clearest example/ model, imo] [note we only have art, not text of Mith] = Late Antiquity = 3-level model, giving transcending of heimarmene ; “salvation/ rescue/ redemptive purchase from enslavement to fate”.
re Late Antiquity Mystery Religion, religious historians, Luther Martin etc, add: *personal* savior religion, vs Eleusis , as if Eleusis is not personal religion/ transformation. later = allegedly: “savior religions” & “personal salvation”.
i dont recall if scholars describe Hellenistic era that way (personal savior religion), and also in later Late Antiquity era, or if they say “personal salvation” was only added late, in 150 AD Late Antiquity, after the Hellenistic era 323 BC – 30 BC.
My idea recent like yesterday: the word “salvation” means from heimarmene. That is a Late Antiquity (or Hellenistic era??) sentiment/ attitude, not an Eleusis / Early Antiquity sentiment attitude.
Also my eras need checking bc Eleusis spans Early Antiquity & Late Antiquity — which raises the GREAT question:
if per Dr Justin Sledge, & Nicola Lewis, ALL brands of relig in Late Antiquity added a new aspiration to not merely reveal heimarmene but to go further & transcend heimarmene –
Did the Eleusinian Mystery Religion , starting in 150 AD , add the theme of “transcend heimarmene & receive rescue / redemption/ salvation from heimarmene”??
“The closing of the Eleusinian Mysteries in 392 AD”
Save redeem rescue redeem us from heimarmene/ enslavement to Fatedness/ determinism / no-free-will/ eternalism.
as if Early Antiquity Mystery Religion is not personal – i fear the scholars here are carried away w their anthopology theory constructs.
Ulansey , who i started reading in 2000 (check my Amazon order & the Egodeath Yahoo Group posts) was CRUCIAL to develop from my 1997 2-level model which fit Greek Mystery Religion , to my 2004-era 3-level model tgat was required for explainkng 150 AD equiv of Mystery Religions.
As Coraxo’s (i was profitably crestfallen when he corrected my perfect awesome inadequate 2-level model) 2000 correction of me… in Gnostm yahoo group.
HUGE TAKEAWAY FOR YOU & ME:
We must have two distinct models of “Mystery Religion”! Early Antiquity vs Late Antiquity type of Mystery Religion “completion of psychedelic initiation/ transformation.” eg Eleusis 500 BC vs Mithraism 150 AD.
We can probably find a little bit of “transcend heimarmene” equivalent motifs in Eleusis-era Mystery Religions – including the 323 BC – 30 BC Hellenistic era. eg “what is outside/ above the sphere of fixed stars?” But the emphasis of Eleusis type Early Antiquity Mystery Religions is: terminate in conforming to heimarmene.
Citations: See books: Luther H Martin, Nicola Denzy Lewis; David Ulansey; Justin Sledge video interviewing Chris Brennan re astrology & fate; Esoterica youtube channel.
500 BC – you should not make the common error of singling out Eleusis from other Greek Mystery Religions & ignoring Symposium mixed-wine religious parties.
See Cyberdisciple WordPress he will correct you if you wrongly treat Eleusis as “unique”.
otoh, tho we should group Eleusis w/ all Hennenistic Mystery Religions + symposia, however, realize that Late Antiquity added a 3rd level sitting above “completed initiates” of Eleusis/Greek Mystery Religions:
Mithraism and all Mystery Religions of 150 AD added something that Eleusis [and you should not dishonor the other gods & brands of that earlier era by ignoring them] did not have.
What does Eleusis-type Mystery Religions lack that Mithraism-type Mystery Religions have? A virtual 3rd level; a SECOND transformation.
April D Deconick describes gnostics as actually religious-myth rebels/ revolutionaries. But not only that brand; her point would apply to Late Antiquity all brands.
All Mystery Religion brands in 150 AD rebelled against their grandparents’ revering of Psilocybin- revealed heimarmene – but wouldn’t that include a major shift within the Eleusinian Mystery Religion?(!!) Something to look for!
the Late Antiquity narrative goes:
Our grandparents’ Eleusis-type Mystery Religion merely gave us heimarmene (boo! we resent the reality of revealed bad truth of heimarmene/ fate).
OUR, better, new technology of 150 AD-era Mystery Religions are superior: better than Eleusis, [at least until 150 AD] which makes you a slave of Fate, OUR new-tech Mystery Religions save you and lift you ABOVE heimarmene/ fate.
Some current religious history commentators claim that everyone in Late Antiquity wished for afterlife. No, more relevant is: they wished for a Mystery Religion transformation that’s higher than enslavement to heimarmene/ fate.
Ulansey book & articles on Mithraism – a Mystery Religion NOT like 500 BC, bc Greek Mystery Religion terminated in simple heimarmene (2-level model) whereas the later, 150 AD type of Mystery Religions added virtually a higher level of transcendence:
above heimarmene (while continuing to affirm that heimarmene is the case), they added a mythic narrative of “transcending heimarmene / fate/ no-free-will/ determinism).
— Michael
March 6, 2025 email from T. Fontaine
Do you have sources for early psilocybin use ? (Hellenistic & middle age period)
Do you have sources about the Eleusis Mysteries rites that would consists in a shift from believing in free-will to understanding determinism ?
[the easy part is show that 2) antiquity = heimarmene = determinism – see every scholar, every book. incl those i listed, and Nietzsche re: dionysus as i recall –
1) what’s hard is to show that the ancients ever believed in freewill (prior to initiation; during childhood only)
3) show that the main change produced by initiation was from child freewill to adult no-free-will.]
How and why would they do this at this time?
[clarify if “this time” = 500 BC or 150 AD;
address the claimed change across eras & the assumed starting point,
in what way did initiates begin with freewill thinking?
children start w/ freewill thinking – is that true in antiquity too? to some major extent, yes.]
I have more a Nietzschean view of the world (the passive nihilism of religious and the active nihilism of the creators of new morality) and know about Mormonism.
[Nietzsche wrote a lot about fate in antiquity – check what he wrote
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Nietzsche
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birth_of_Tragedy – i think he wrote about heimarmene / fate here.]
People need to do something for their anxiety, their dread of death [more than that, their dislike of fate/ heimarmene -Michael Hoffman] ; that religion answers. This world is driving ppl/ancients crazy, and that was Nietzsche’s biggest concern : “God is dead, now what do we do ?”
[Nietzsche wrote about Fate in antiquity]
Capitalism offered a postponed reprieve for our late-Modern nihilist world: eg, money is made out of creating distraction for people that are anxious, and destroys culture.
Our group includes heavy psychonauts.
People need to reconnect with nature — this bridge between human mind and nature is made, historically, by psychedelics.
The most recent proof of occidental psychedelic roots is the Eleunisian Mysteries.
[Dr/Dean Chs Stang main critiqicusm of The Immortality Key by Brian Muraresku, 2020 is that Brian Muraresku acts like there’s proof of that, but never gets around to deliveraging that proof]
Correct me if I’m wrong and that you have evidences of more recent use of psychedelics.
/ Font. email continues below where indicated
The Main Source of Evidence Is Commitment to There Being Evidence
The main source of evidence is commitment to there being evidence
In effect, given that there is in fact evidence and argumentation available, the main source of evidence for psychedelics in religious history is vigorous wholehearted assertive commitment to there being evidence.
Those who lack commitment are guaranteed failures to contribute evidence.
https://www.google.com/search?q=darth+vader+i+find+your+lack+of+faith+disturbing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnNSnJbjdws —
[there is evidence for psychedelics in every era, religion, region esp if include non psychedelics: deliriants: scopalamine nightshades & Amanita: they cannot produce THE transformation — transformation from possibilism to eternalism — but they can — like cannabis — supplement that as a fallback fill-in]
image: Great Canterbury Psalter f134 row 2 & 3: blue vase collecting Psilocybin behind oxen, looking at Cubensis dispensary.
I failed to believe and have faith or would have seen this proof quicker, proof of my initial claim “I know what’s in the blue vase”, yet failed (for part of a year) to even look at all at the grain bin.
I didn’t attempt at all to look for direct evidence, because blinded by defeatist presupposition that there isn’t direct evidence.
https://egodeaththeory.org/2022/07/19/psalter-rows/#Looking-Lines —

image: Great Canterbury Psalter f11 row 1 & 2 left: 4 mushrooms w/o branches point to pans & compass, balance scale.
I failed (for part of a year) to believe and have faith, or would have actively looked for and found this proof quicker.
I said the balance pans contain Cubensis, but I initially failed to look around for direct explicit proof of that, because of my blindness defeatism.
Again, I didn’t attempt at all to look for direct evidence, because blinded by defeatist presupposition that there isn’t direct evidence.

[any scholar who doesn’t operate from that framework commitment should immediately stop doing entheogen scholarship; give up, cannot contribute.
for productive successful entheogen scholarship, it is a GIVEN that all eras/regions used psychedelics and there is evidence.
Apply the diamond hammer of interpretation.
if it seems like no evidence, it is our blindness and fault, as poor scholars who ought to be committed to building this paradigm.
to hell with defeatist lack of confidence – this is how science actually progresses: not “disconfirmation” but rather, commitment to the new paradigm despite the flaws of EVERY paradigm old & new.
there is no “certainty” and perfect paradigm, it’s all about commitment. COMMITMENT PRODUCES RESULTS;
If you allegedly “don’t have evidence”, then really, it’s your fault for not having commitment – Great Canterbury Psalter taught me that.
If “no evidence”, this just means you’re too feeble, weakling, defeatist, unimaginative, & ineffectual; you lack the requisite can-do attitude.
We effective entheogen scholars must be committed anti-skeptics; committed believers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6U-id_iUwQ —
The main source of evidence is commitment to there being evidence.
eg Hatsis wrongly says no text about The Mushroom. false: there is TONS of text about mushrooms; discussed in terms of eucharist effects]
T. Fontaine’s email continues:
I take a nature-daîmon related point of view.
Bringing back a general use of psychedelics – eg through Eleusis Mysteries – would be a healing for this world.
Recommended:
The Message of the Eleusinian Mysteries for Today’s World
Albert Hofmann
(from Robert “Who is The Enterprise that’s funding Muraresku?” Forte, grassroots not astroturf, authentic entheogen scholar, member of the Ruck Committee of the Secret Amanita paradigm, w/ some ergot thrown in for spice; 1st-generation entheogen scholarship (the Secret Amanita paradigm))
https://cac45ab95b3277b3fdfd-31778daf558bdd39a1732c0a6dfa8bd4.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/10_hofmann.pdf
That letter motivated me to work on this project. You might know that letter.
I recommend this book about culture disruption and the current civilization issue of our century:
The Age of Disruption: Technology and Madness in Computational Capitalism
Bernard Stiegler, August 2019, 380 pages
https://www.wiley.com/en-us/The+Age+of+Disruption%3A+Technology+and+Madness+in+Computational+Capitalism-p-9781509529261
ISBN: 978-1-509-52926-1 – blurb:
“Half a century ago Adorno and Horkheimer argued, with great prescience, that our increasingly rationalized world was witnessing the emergence of a new kind of barbarism, thanks in part to the stultifying effects of the culture industries.
What they could not foresee was that, with the digital revolution and the pervasive automation associated with it, the developments they had discerned would be greatly accentuated, giving rise to the loss of reason and to the loss of the reason for living.
Individuals are now overwhelmed by the sheer quantity of digital information and the speed of digital flows, resulting in a kind of technological Wild West in which they find themselves increasingly powerless, driven by their lack of agency to the point of madness.
—
“How can we find a way out of this situation?
In this major new [2019] book, Bernard Stiegler argues that we must first acknowledge our era as one of fundamental disruption and detachment.
[reminds me of narrative “the main value of Psilocybin therapy is to fix the problem of depression, grief & meaninglessness”.
I don’t buy that narrative/ selling-point: trying to sell the main value of Psilocybin as a cure for depression in today’s world; too much Big Pharma Marketing Dept.
See Houot’s book instead, Rise of the Psychonaut.]
We are living in an absence of epokhē in the philosophical sense, by which Stiegler means that we have lost our path of thinking and being.
Weaving in powerful accounts from his own life story, including struggles with depression and time spent in prison, Stiegler calls for a new epokhē based on public power.
We must forge new circuits of meaning outside of the established algorithmic routes.
For only then will forms of thinking and life be able to arise that restore meaning and aspiration to the individual.
—
“Concluding with a dialogue between Stiegler and Jean-Luc Nancy, this book will be of great interest to students and scholars in social and cultural theory, media and cultural studies, philosophy and the humanities generally.”
/ end blurb
I’m not a devout occultist nerd.
I’m attached to evidence-based facts, cited sources, & rationality.
I am interested in religion or prospectivist theories, though that’s not my main use of time.
[https://www.google.com/search?q=define+prospectivist – prospective = “expected or expecting to be something particular in the future”
check the firm search eg:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futurist – “Futurists (also known as futurologists, prospectivists,”
‘prospective’ is not a bad description of my can-do attitude that has produced tons of evidence & sound, successful explanatory theory.
Many people claim that Science = Predictionism.
I don’t fully agree w/ overemphasis of “prediction” as the alleged essence of doing science.
It’s arbitrary to frame things — theory development & confirmation, how to measure merit – in terms of “making predictions and then confirming them”.
That description is “not wrong, but not very helpful”, and it shuts out other angles.]
A great thank you for your message and the share of your theories,
T. Fontaine
Are Neopagans Focused on the Problem of Transcending Fatedness/ No-free-will/ Determinism/ Heimarmene/ Eternalism/ the Snake-Wrapped Iron Rock Block Universe? (3rd email to Fontaine)
email sent Mar 6 2025:
Dr. Justin Sledge of Esoterica youtube channel has a question for you, for neopagans:
Arent you super interested in fate? he says you should be. i agree.
The ancients were extremely interested in heimarmene , & in Late Antiquity, ancient religion was all about promising to transcend heimarmene/ fate.
Suppose you are hieropnant promoting Eleusianian Mysteries in 150 AD.
All brands of religion are claiming they are better than Eleusis because THEY save you from enslavement to fate.
Eleusis is bad bc it makes you a slave of heimarmene.
What is your use of myth to competively claim that the best brand of religion is Eleusinian which more than other brands, rescues and redeems you from enslavement to heimarmene?
Example answer: 6 months of the year, Persephone is released from the underworld.
It is a great, focused, relevant, researchable question:
Didn’t the Eleusinian Mysteries have to add a claim in 150 AD that this brand of Mystery Religion saves you from Fatedness?
/ end of email
earlier writeup, not included in the email:
Dr. Justin Sledge (Esoterica ch.) has a question for you/ for Neopagans:
Are you highly interested in the topic of Fate?
The Modern era is 100% soaked in assumption of freewill.
The driving main theme of 150 AD Late Antiquity was, given the revealed fact of fate, the purpose of late Mystery Religions & all the brands of religion of that era is to transcend fate.
Late Antiquity didn’t solve the problem of fatedness by denying that fate is thee case.
The main, driving religious project of Late Antiquity was to solve the problem problem that, given that fate is the case, we need to transcend fate in some way.
Read Updated Final Version of idea development page 24 (has content through Feb. 2028)
https://egodeaththeory.org/2025/01/29/idea-development-24/
I updated the table of contents – skim it. Not linked.
Shows tons of info / ideas added recently.
Just b/c I’m starting this new page, don’t avoid the old page – rather, the old page is now ready to look at, except not linked the Contents.
Confirmed First Use of “branching-message mushroom trees” March 21, 2022
Gmail has a confusing UI. I am not insane; I correctly memorized March 21, 2022. I kept considering Sept. and said no way, no way, it was always “March”. Proof below.
The Subject line of the email thread is “Parasol Panaeolus Graves“. cc’d Brown & Cyberdisciple. Sent March 21, 2022.

My email sent March 21, 2022, with first mention of “branching-message mushroom trees”.
Monday, March 21, 2022:
Prof. Brown sent me the 2019 article’s Kupfer passage about youths in trees, and,
Monday, March 21, 2022, 10:14 AM:
I first wrote the phrase “branching-message mushroom trees“, in email to Brown & Cyberdisciple.
Section: “Major Date: I First Wrote “branching-message mushroom trees” on March 21, 2022″
At top of Idea Development page 16:
https://egodeaththeory.org/2023/01/23/idea-development-page-16/#Incoming-Ideas
Transcription of my above email:
https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/03/09/idea-development-page-13/#Amanita-Imagery-Indicates-Psilocybe-Use
Mature Egoic Thinking = {beard}
Lay not hand on the young man nor do any harm. Because you have done this thing, live into the future.
use but don’t rely on, the Left foot model of control;
branching possibilities steering with monolithic, autonomous control
gives unstable control during loose cognition.
immature form
{king steering in tree}
through {mixed wine at banquet}
rely on the Right foot model of personal control:
non-branching; frozen line of steering; 2-level, dependent control
gives stable control
mature form
{snake frozen in rock}
The mature form after Psilocybin transformation; during loose cognition; during loose cognitive association binding.
Loose cognition transforms the personal control system from possibilism to eternalism.
Psilocybin transformation
{altar at guarded gate temple entryway sacrifice, cleaned curtains}, {sacrificial altar = fire blade rock wood-branches}
turning to look to the right, looking behind you and above you at angel messenger of God
Sacrifice of Isaac (Canterbury Psalter)

Features: [8:56 pm Feb. 26, 2025]
- embarrassing, did i ever notice or mention the {gate/ doorway/ passageway}? The past 1-2 weeks, I developed especially the vision of/ the motif of, {altar as tollbooth attached to gate}. To pass through the gate/ doorway, must pay the price of passage, which is, repudiate taking as real, the egoic personal control system – see it now as virtual-only auto monolithic, autonomous control.
- from Great Canterbury Psalter, instance of {rock altar of sacrifice at the doorway temple passage gateway boundary crossing}
- {mushroom gate}; topped by liberty cap cap that has a L and R arm for the two mental models.
- virtual-only monolithic autonomous control-agency steering in virtual-only branching possibilities
- Look behind you, look above you.
virtual-only monolithic autonomous control-agency steering in virtual-only branching possibilities
vmac
Sacrifice of Isaac (Golden Psalter)

Features:
- Look behind you, look above you.
- {mushroom hem} x3.
- {floating mushroom hem} over tree trunk.
- trident-O: trident = L + stem + R.
- On L tree, 4 branches under crown. mushroom-trees feature: 4 limbs (= arms + legs).
- Liberty cap left shoulder Abraham.
Sacrifice of Isaac (Van der Borch): Branches on Rock Altar with Blade and Child

Features:
- Atypical: Not looking back at angel. Looking forward and down, not behind & up.
- Rock branches fire altar child is on R side of tree; {cut right branch}; YI tree.
- {right foot down} for Abraham & ram.
- Angel: splayed left fingers, non-branching R index finger.
New Art


Motivation for this Page
- Focusing on myth vision of myths / mythemes/ motifs:
- {turn right, look up, look behind you, while blade the sacrifice child / animal; Isaac | bull | ram}
- {maturation} from {child} to {adult}
Declaration of Independence of MICA Affirmers from Ignorant Art Authorities Who Earn Disrespect by Publishing Nothing
Huggins has not published nothing. He writes as art historian and published article about Great Canterbury Psalter, and mushroom-trees. He deserves engagement.
Independent Mentality Attitude: MICA Affirmers Must Think Essentially Independently from Art Authorities & Other MICA Deniers, and Especially Reject Argument from Authority by Phony Authorities Who Published Nothing about Trees
For the most part, largely, art authorities have failed to earn any credibility, because they reduce themselves to fallacious arguments from authority.
Huggins doesn’t do that too badly; on the topic of mushroom imagery in Christian art, Huggins is more engaged than Letcher 2006, and higher quality than Hatsis 2013.
Huggins is the least bad MICA Denier so far.
MICA Deniers have some valid points.
Letcher’s good point: only a single mushroom-tree is needed, to demolish 1st-generation entheogen scholarship, which falsely claims “cult, secretly, oppression, slipped into, hidden, secret cult, surreptitiously slipped in”.
- 1952-1998: 1st-Gen entheogen scholars claim that mushroom imagery in Christian art is “cult, secretly, oppression, slipped into, hidden, secret cult, surreptitiously slipped in”.
- 2006: Andy Letcher points to Bernward Door’s Blame panel, arguing that this specific instance of mushroom imagery cannot possibly be cult, secretly, oppression, slipped into, hidden, secret cult, surreptitiously slipped in, thus shattering and disproving that 1st-Gen version of the psychedelic gospels theory, or of the proposal of mushroom imagery in Christian art.
- 2002: Cybermonk announces contra Ruck Committee, the maximal entheogen theory of religion.
I declared a rejection of 1st-Gen entheogen scholarship aka the the Moderate (= Minimal) entheogen theory of religion, in order to sustain the vector from “Mushroom-Trees” (Samorini 1998) to “Conjuring Eden” (Hoffman/ Ruck 2001) & beyond – instead of what Hoffman/Ruck did, which was back away from that direction, retreating back into their Secret Amanita paradigm.
I announced in 2003 that by applying the Egodeath theory to that direction from “Mushroom-Trees” in Christian Art (Samorini 1998) to “Conjuring Eden”, I will CONTINUE that direction, instead of retreating into the Moderate (= Minimal) entheogen theory of religion.
Giorgio Samorini 1998 article is the obvious milestone for the start of 2nd-generation entheogen scholarship (the Explicit Psilocybin paradigm).
https://egodeaththeory.org/mushroom-trees-in-christian-art-samorini/
“Mushroom-Trees” in Christian Art (Samorini 1998)
mtca
samo98
1st-generation entheogen scholarship (the Secret Amanita paradigm)
1g
2nd-generation entheogen scholarship (the Explicit Psilocybin paradigm)
2g
the Moderate (= Minimal) entheogen theory of religion
mmetr
{turn right, look up, look behind you, while blade the sacrifice child / animal; Isaac | bull | ram}
{maturation} from {child} to {adult}
Change of Deceptive Marketing of Egodeath: Sell People Freewill Power, Hide the No-free-will Fine Print
🤥👖🔥🤞->🤑💰
Transcendent Knowledge Doesn’t Give You Eternalism; It Gives You Possibilism-Power*
*qualified
Emphasize positive framing of Transcendent Knowledge as affirming (qualified) possibilism-thinking.
I considered doing before, instead of ‘eternalism’, but I feared that saying “you end up with possibilism-thinking” would be mis-taken as simple affirmation of untransformed, egoic freewill thinking.
Cleaned Dirtiness; Forgiven Sin that Continues, no longer Considered Your Real Foundation/ Source of Control
Pushing eternalism-thinking is not viable; it won’t fly, and it misrepresents. You don’t kill the child; you keep the child, and add a beard. It’s the same old possibilism-thinking, except transformed; you use freewill thinking all the time, though it is sanctified; justified; qualified, it is impurity that is considered as pure; “clean dirtiness”.
I HAVE to frame in a positive way to be well received. I must promise freewill power, and then after they take the bait for my Wasson-like duplicity, then I will say HA! GOT YOU, SUCKER, IT’S NOT REALLY FREEWILL, DESPITE MY MISLEADING MARKETING PLOY!
- Idea development page 24 (started 2025/01/28) reached 140 sheets; recently , set record of 200+ sheets.
- That page spawned new pages, that I have to create the TOC for.
Houot at Church Book Club: Rise of the Psychonaut
ZZZ (tired, Zig Zag Zen – ultra conventional, awful treatment, totally unimaginative re: their biased, prejudiced, unconscious presuppositions)
The author of Rise, A. M. Houot, who I conversed with, will join in our book club.
I responded to the question of what book we should cover next, by suggesting this book. At first ppl voted for ZZZ but then my suggestion won.
See section:
Mere “A” Mystical Experience (eg Unity feeling), vs. the Ultimate, Definitive Mystical Experience: transformation from possibilism to eternalism
in page:
https://egodeaththeory.org/2025/01/29/idea-development-24/
(my emails have more detail, but it’s private)
Recent Posts 2025/01/28-2025/02/24
- 3-Phase “Transcendent Possibilism” vs. 2-Phase “Eternalism” (2025/02/18)
- The Meaning of YO or Trident Branches Holding Up the Crown of a Mushroom-Tree
- Perceptual Dualism: Matter Exists, and Mental Constructs Are Primary
- Sacred Garden Community psychedelic church
- Why Psilocybin Is the Gold Standard Reference for Transcendent Knowledge
- Egodeath Theory as Compatibilism Instead of No-Free-Will
- The Seven Liberty Cap Mushroom-Trees of the Bernward Doors and Column
- Conceptual Errors, Misinterpretations, and Bad Argumentation from Entheogen Scholars (2025/02/03)
- Idea Development page 24 (2025/01/28)





