Key Cosmology Questions: Does “the Fate-Ruled Cosmos” Include the Sphere of the Fixed Stars?
Michael Hoffman, 11 am, Apr. 5, 2025
Contents:
- The Key Questions That Scholars Must Address Directly, Explicitly, and Consistently
- In ancient cosmology, is sphere 8 (the sphere of the fixed stars) part of “the cosmos”?
- Is sphere 8 (the sphere of the fixed stars) the highest sphere of Fate, or is it above Fate?
- Was Stoicism no-free-will, or the creator of freewill?
- Does the soul rise above Fate?
- Does the spirit rise above Fate?
- Does the soul rise to sphere 8 (the sphere of the fixed stars) at highest?
- Does the spirit rise to sphere 9, above sphere 8 (the sphere of the fixed stars)?
- Which sphere is the demiurge at?
- Classical Antiquity’s Model of Astral ascent Mysticism: Destination for the Soul Is Sphere 8, Fixed Stars, Above “the Cosmos” as Spheres 1-7
- Late Antiquity’s Model of Astral ascent Mysticism: Destination for the Spirit Is Sphere 9, Pleroma, Above “the Cosmos” as Spheres 1-8
- Background
- Perfection of Initiation: Integrated Possibilism/Eternalism Thinking
- The Egodeath Theory of Integrated Possibilism and Eternalism
- The Egodeath Theory Gives You Integrated Possibilism + Eternalism Thinking
- Perfection of Initiation: Integrated Possibilism/Eternalism Thinking
- Videos
- Video: Fate and Astrology (Adam Elenbaas, Chris Brennan, 2023)
- Video: Sam Block, Chris Brennan, Feb. 16, 2022
- Videos: Justin Sledge & Chris Brennan
- Books
- Hermetic Spirituality and the Historical Imagination: Altered States of Knowledge in Late Antiquity (Wouter Hanegraaff, 2022)
- Hellenistic Astrology: The Study of Fate and Fortune (Chris Brennan, 2017)
- Cosmology in Antiquity (Rosemary Wright, 1995)
- Ancient Astrology (Barton, 1994)
- Paul and the Stoics
- Scholars to Pin Down and Interrogate to Force them to Address their Shared, Incoherent Blind Spot
- Wikipedia
- Wiki: Celestial Spheres
- Motivation for this Page
- The 3 Tiers of Astral Ascent Mysticism When Done Right: Sphere 8; Spheres 7-, and Spheres 9+
- Sphere 8
- Spheres 7-
- Sphere 9+
- 3 Guys: Possibilism; Eternalism; Possibilism+Eternalism
- voice rec’g
- Titles of this Page
- See Also
The Key Questions That Scholars Must Address Directly, Explicitly, and Consistently
“Whether the fixed stars should be included [with Saturn, sphere 7] or should rather be associated with the Ogdoad [sphere 8] remains an open question for me.” – p. 294, footnote 114, Hermetic Spirituality and the Historical Imagination: Altered States of Knowledge in Late Antiquity, by Wouter Hanegraaff, 2022
Apparently all scholars are baffled by this. Wouter Hanegraaff got his confusion from the ancient writers and the entire field of today’s scholars of the Hermetic writings.
goal: Email the experts these simple basic questions. The usual answers are a contradictory set of answers. I provide the potential useful astral ascent mysticism model, useful as a map of Psilocybin transformation, mental model transformation from possibilism to eternalism, producing integrated possibilism + eternalism thinking.
To protect naive possibilism-thinking, scholars love to talk about planet spheres 1-7 as being Fate, while remaining silent then, about sphere 8 (sphere of the fixed stars) being Fate. I HATE when scholars discuss “cosmos = planets = 7 spheres” while staying silent about the main level of Fate, which is sphere of the fixed stars.
How I Pinned Down Wouter Hanegraaff Error: Write the sphere # that is associated with every word in the book re: astral ascent mysticism
Where he writes “zodiac” write “8”. Nous, write 8 or 9 (review that).
“cosmos” to him means 1-7 as if the stars are not included in “the cosmos”.
In ancient cosmology, is sphere 8 (the sphere of the fixed stars) part of “the cosmos”?
Answer: Yes.
per The Egodeath theory of psychedelic eternalism.
Confused scholars: cosmos = 7 planet spheres. above 7 is freedom from fate.
the Egodeath theory of psychedelic eternalism — psychedelic possibilism
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the Egodeath theory of psychedelic integrated possibilism/eternalism thinking
the Egodeath theory of psychedelic possibilism/eternalism; branching/non-branching;
Egodeath theory of non/branching
the Egodeath theory of psychedelic non-branching
etpn
that is 1-sided. branching & non thus non/branching ;j transcendent possibility-branching
transcendent possibility-branching
and non-branching , integrated. differentiated.
ITS THE SORT OF “SPIRITUAL FREEDOM” THAT CAN ONLY BE BASED ON A FERVENT ASSERTION OF ETERNALISM PRISON BLOCK 4D spacetime block ENSLAVED PRISON –> IMPLIES A THIN SPECIFIC KIND OF “TRANSCEND”
2 sides of same coin: 100% heimarmene; “spiritual transcendence” of heimarmene –
body stuck in fate planets
soul stuck in fate stars
spirit outside fate stars
redeemed prison slave by Christ lifting up outisde FAte jaws. a very specific way of envisioning a type of “spiritual freedom” that’s in relateion to revelation of slave prison block-universe eternalism. {snake frozen in rock}
integrated possibilism/eternalism thinking
is outside of
eternalism-thinking
basic eternalism-thinking , vs “eternalism” that’s within integrated possibilism/eternalism thinking
Egodeath theory is not valuatgion of how the mind mental model ends up; purely descriptive, not value-laden. YOU END UP W ETERNALISM-THINKING AND WITH POSSIBILISM-THINKING as virtual qualified.
A Tragic Type of Spiritual Freedom: Adult Made Mature Able/Taught to Stable Control in Psilocybin Non-Branching Experiential State
mind switched from
monolithic, autonomous control
to
2-level, dependent control.
Experience is shaped as monolithic control-agent steering among branching possibilities. Donkey following path carrying load.
fate-soaked , even fate-producing fixed stars w/ demiurge created all your control thoughts
The Structure of Heaven and Earth: How Ancient Cosmology Shaped Everyone’s Theology
Paul Davidson, August 17, 2019
https://isthatinthebible.wordpress.com/2019/08/17/the-structure-of-heaven-and-earth-how-ancient-cosmology-shaped-everyones-theology/ —
“These new, widespread teachings had unavoidable religious implications for the common people. How could a person survive the corrupting influences of the elements, escape the fatalistic control of the stars and planets during life [the series of Psilocybin sessions], and ensure a safe ascension to heaven after [ego] death?”
Is sphere 8 (the sphere of the fixed stars) the highest sphere of Fate, or is it above Fate?
Answer: 8 is highest sphere of Fate.
Confused scholars: the Ogdoad is above fate, because it is above the planet sphere. sphere 8 is above fate, b/c above the 7 planets. [this sounds like Classical Antiquity veneration of fixed stars / heimarmene, as the destination of soul] spirit not invented yet, to go outside heimarmene. Late Antiquity.
in Egodeath theory, “transcend eternalism” means, integrated possibilism/eternalism thinking.
* possibilism-thinking dominates and wins this way in that: __ personal control system experience is shaped as {king steering in a tree}.
* eternalism-thinking dominates and wins this way in that: __ firmly assert that 4D spacetime block is the case.
the experience of {king steering in a tree} , the reality source underlying = {snake frozen in rock}.
Appearance wins! 🏆 {king steering in a tree}
Reality wins! 🏆 {snake frozen in rock}
with Egodeath theory, both appearance wins AND reality wins – win-win: although {snake frozen in rock}, {king steering in a tree}.
per The Egodeath theory of psychedelic eternalism. compare Tim Freke evolutionary spirituality that rejects.. SIMPLY REJECTS NONDUALITY, MIND-ONLY, AND EGO LOSS.
Tim Freke now rejects:
- ego-loss
- nonduality
- mind-only
Egodeath theory rejects those constructs and explanatory effort. like “Anxiety of ego dissolution” – poor theory constructs.
Was Stoicism no-free-will, or the creator of freewill?
Answer: Both.
per The Egodeath theory of psychedelic eternalism.
Confused scholars: __
this is a free-for-all projection fest. like “gnosticism”. like a god of the gaps arg: anything you like, or don’t like, say: “Stoicism invented that.”
wonderful no-free-will? stoicism figured that out.
noxious no-free-will? stoicism’s fault.
wonderful freewill? stoicism figured that out.
noxious freewill? stoicism’s fault.
every position and its opposite are to the credit or fault of Stoicism, the god-of-the-gaps cover explnation for all Phil positions re: free will vs. determinism.
Like John Lash quote, need keyboard shortcut: “Wasson’s theory, including followers’ considerable departures from it, ” shame quote hall of shame fail quotes.
Extremely loaded word-choice by John Lash to give all credit for all ideas and their opposite to his god idol Gordon . . . .🔍🧐🤔 Wasson
Lash: ALL YOUR IDEAS ARE BELONG TO WASS.
Given:
- wasson’s theory
- bob’s theory
- fred’s theory
reframe as “Wasson’s theory, including Bob’s theory and Fred’s theory, …”
what kind of put-on is this?
magically handing all theories to Gordon . . . .🔍🧐🤔 Wasson
through bad, arbitrary writing, the framing tail wags the given dog.
Heavy handed force impose framing. Just because YOU are an obsessed Gordon . . . .🔍🧐🤔 Wasson fanboi, doesn’t give you the right to assign every theory in the field as “coming from Wasson” – ridiculous, Lash is as bad as Thomas Hatsis who simply ASSUMES every child like Irvin & Hatsis started as Allegro fanboi; Lash does same but Wass instead: assumes every scholar came up as a Wasson fanboi like Lash, so Lash forces all the field to be arrayed around god idol Gordon . . . .🔍🧐🤔 Wasson. Failing to match reality. entheogen scholarship is NOT arrayed with god idol wasson in the middle, the lying deceiver impeder of scholarship.
not that wass would be the idol in the center if he had been honest , vs pope banker, Gordon “MASSIVE Conflict of Interest” Wasson. Bad thinking from John Lash; poor way of arranging the field of entheogen scholarship so as to center on Wasson. Stupid approach! forget Wasson, our new Aristotle authnority that Lash erects for us. GTFO Lash, & Gordon . . . .🔍🧐🤔 Wasson! Stupid mis-arraying of the field of entheogen scholarship. Stupid model of the field.
Lash is a Psilocybin enthusiast, he hates Wasson’s Amanita Primacy Fallacy.
JL: ALL YOUR IDEA ARE BELONG TO WASS.
Does the soul rise above Fate?
Answer: No.
per The Egodeath theory of psychedelic eternalism.
Confused scholars: the soul travels above 7 planets fate, to transcend fate, ending up in the stars above fate.
Does the spirit rise above Fate?
Answer: Yes.
per The Egodeath theory of psychedelic eternalism.
Confused scholars: __
Does the soul rise to sphere 8 (the sphere of the fixed stars) at highest?
Answer: Yes.
per The Egodeath theory of psychedelic eternalism.
Confused scholars: __
Does the spirit rise to sphere 9, above sphere 8 (the sphere of the fixed stars)?
The pleroma, precession of the equinoxes. Yes.
Answer: Yes.
per The Egodeath theory of psychedelic eternalism.
Confused scholars: __
Which sphere is the demiurge at?
Answer: Sphere 8; the sphere of the fixed stars.
per The Egodeath theory of psychedelic eternalism.
Confused scholars: __
Classical Antiquity’s Model of Astral ascent Mysticism: Destination for the Soul Is Sphere 8, Fixed Stars, Above “the Cosmos” as Spheres 1-7
[1:47 pm Apr. 5, 2025]
Classical Antiquity targeted “Psilocybin enlightenment = heimarmene”.
Leave the corrupt cosmos 1-7 to reach perfection: {snake frozen in rock}; {king turned to stone}.
completion of initiation = align the mental model w/ heimarmene/ no-free-will/ eternalism.
{king turned to stone}
kts
Late Antiquity’s Model of Astral ascent Mysticism: Destination for the Spirit Is Sphere 9, Pleroma, Above “the Cosmos” as Spheres 1-8
Late Antiquity targeted “Psilocybin enlightenment = transcend heimarmene”.
Leave the corrupt cosmos 1-8 to reach perfection: transcend determinism; transcend heimarmene; transcend no-free-will; have transcendent freewill.
{redeemed from prison}
{ransomed from captivity}
[1:56 pm Apr. 5, 2025]
completion of initiation = not only align the mental model w/ heimarmene/ no-free-will/ eternalism; align with the POV from outside of eternalism / cosmic rock.
David Ulansey’s solution explaining Mithraism.
David Ulansey’s The Eighth Gate: The Mithraic Lion-Headed Figure and the Platonic World-Soul, http://www.mysterium.com/eighthgate.html
du8th
David Ulansey’s Mithras and the Hypercosmic Sun, http://www.mysterium.com/hypercosmic.html
duhyp
Roots of this idea of 2 differing astral ascent mysticism models: in page __ I asked “do Paul Davidson & Wouter Hanegraaff flip back and forth between two different models, where the earlier model says highest level of Fate is 7; later says 8??
https://egodeaththeory.org/2025/03/18/hanegraaffs-inability-to-place-fixed-stars-in-sphere-7-or-8-proves-rebirth-is-into-fate-not-freedom/#two-contradictory-systems
Background
Scholars of hellenistic cosmology are incapable of counting to 8, because they go irrational regarding eternalism.
The maddening self-contradiction and vagueness is not just Wouter “Star Destroyer” Hanegraaff – ALL of these guys are muddle-headed thinkers on these specific points.
When these magicians playing shell games w/ undefined terms, when they say “the cosmos”, you cannot ever tell whether they include sphere 8 (sphere of the fixed stars) or not. They make definite statements and then make contradictory statements.
They present a vague, confused, self-contradictory MESS.
These are so confused thinkers, THEY THEMSELVES DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN WHEN THEY SAY “THE COSMOS”.
Even while they discuss sphere levels re: Fate, we have maximum waffling and blind spot, they are prevented from directly addressing these key questions.
They [Sam Block & Chris Brennan] talk around these key questions, and confusion is perpetuated.
The History of Astrology – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBqWtMxa3PnZkIuMPgifbRksPEShzq9nY
A playlist by Chris Brennan.
Stop not accounting for fixed stars; stop not mentioning fixed stars when you say planets = Fate; stop contradicting yourself about whether sphere 7 or 8 is the highest Fate sphere. https://youtu.be/KupaADzq88g — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KupaADzq88g —
video desc:
Video title:
Hermeticism and Ancient Astrology: The Corpus Hermeticum
Feb 16, 2022
YouTube channel: The Astrology Podcast (Chris Brennan)
Desc:
“A discussion about the ancient philosophy of Hermeticism and its relationship to Hellenistic astrology, with Sam Block and Chris Brennan.
“Hermeticism is a religious, philosophical, and mystical movement that arose in Hellenistic Egypt around the first century, and is attributed to the teachings and practices of Hermes Trismegistus.
“It represents a popular synthesis of a number of philosophical and religious trends that were popular during the Hellenistic period, including Stoicism, Platonism, native Egyptian religion, and astrology.
“The majority of what is known about this philosophical or religious school survives in the Corpus Hermeticum and a handful of other writings from that time period.
“During the course of the episode we talk about what is known about the Hermetic philosophical tradition, and how it relates to the technical tradition of astrology that arose during the same time period.
“Sam is the author of a series on Hermeticism on his website, which I would recommend checking out for more information on this topic:
Hermeticism Posts
Sam Block
https://digitalambler.com/about/hermeticism-posts/
36:30 [in Sam Block video “Hermeticism and Astrology: The Corpus …”] “planets = Fate”, but WHAT ABOUT the sphere of the fixed stars? Wouter Hanegraaff & Paul Davidson & this video are frustratingly silent about sphere 8 fixed stars which is even MORE the headquarters of Fate.
These treatments act like sphere 8 is above Fate AND is Fate, self-contradicting.
50:40 [in Sam Block video] Brennan’s diagram of waffling:
Does the word “fate-ruled cosmos” include sphere 8, fixed stars, or not?
Please focus on this question; please focus on sphere of the fixed stars; the Ogdoad:
- In ancient cosmology, is sphere 8 (the sphere of the fixed stars) part of “the cosmos”? Yes.
- Is sphere 8 (the sphere of the fixed stars) the highest sphere of Fate, or is it above Fate? 8 is highest sphere of Fate.
- Was Stoicism no-free-will, or the creator of freewill? Both. wikipedia article about history and theology of freewill says Christianity did not invent freewill but freewill was created by stocism and then Christianity integrated freewill. How can wiki say freewill was created by Stoicism, if Stoicism = affirming no-free-will? Contradictions in the field.
- Does the soul rise above Fate? No.
- Does the spirit rise above Fate? yes.
- Does the soul rise to sphere 8 (the sphere of the fixed stars) at highest? Yes.
- Does the spirit rise to sphere 9, above sphere 8 (the sphere of the fixed stars)? The pleroma, precession of the equinoxes. Yes.
Please stop going silent on this question; please stop dancing around this question:
Does “the cosmos” include the sphere of the fixed stars?
Please focus on this specific question.
This is the centrally most important question.
Perfection of Initiation: Integrated Possibilism/Eternalism Thinking
the Egodeath theory of integrated possibilism/eternalism
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The Egodeath Theory of Integrated Possibilism and Eternalism
That will sell well! great marketing / framing / sales & advertisement, P. R.
joke: modify quote from Houot “DO NOT READ THIS BOOK if you use psychedelics for any reason one can list”, to sell the GREAT idea, the Egodeath theory of integrated possibilism and eternalism
the Egodeath theory of integrated possibilism and eternalism
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2:21 pm Apr. 5, 2025
integrated possibilism/eternalism
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integrated possibilism/eternalism thinking
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possibilism/eternalism thinking
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psychedelic eternalism
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Psilocybin esotericism
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the theory of psychedelic possibilism and eternalism
the theory of psychedelic eternalism including possibilism
the theory of psychedelic eternalism (including possibilism)
the theory of psychedelic possibility branching and non-branching
the theory of psychedelic non-branching” <– relates well to the art genre of mushroom-trees
the art genre of mushroom-trees
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The Egodeath Theory Gives You Integrated Possibilism + Eternalism Thinking
No shortchange either; full possibilism AND full eternalism.
integrated possibilism + eternalism thinking
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i like that, better than leaning w bias toward “hyper-eternalism” or “eternalism, with virtual possibilism thinking”, or “qualified possibilism-thinking”. i hate those phrases that PRIVILEGE either eternalism or possibilism. i want to emph the INTEGRATION of BOTH.
possibilism + eternalism thinking
ppet
possibilism + eternalism
p+e
Videos
Video: Fate and Astrology (Adam Elenbaas, Chris Brennan, 2023)
mar 21 2023
“Astrologers Adam Elenbaas and Chris Brennan discuss the relationship between fate and astrology, and how astrology can be used as a tool to study fate.
“This episode was originally recorded as a Q&A for Adam’s YouTube channel, where we answered some questions that were sent in my his fans about fate, free-will, and ancient astrology.
“During the course of the episode we talk about how ancient astrologers viewed fate, and used astrology as a tool for understanding and negotiating it.
“Along the way we also touched on other topics such as karma and reincarnation, electional astrology and magic, and how to delineate a birth chart in a way that balances determinism and free-will.
“This is episode 392 of The Astrology Podcast”
Video: Sam Block, Chris Brennan, Feb. 16, 2022
Sam Block
feb 16 2022
discussion about the ancient philosophy of Hermeticism and its relationship to Hellenistic astrology, with Sam Block and Chris Brennan.
Hermeticism is a religious, philosophical, and mystical movement that arose in Hellenistic Egypt around the first century, and is attributed to the teachings and practices of Hermes Trismegistus.
It represents a popular synthesis of a number of philosophical and religious trends that were popular during the Hellenistic period, including Stoicism, Platonism, native Egyptian religion, and astrology.
The majority of what is known about this philosophical or religious school survives in the Corpus Hermeticum and a handful of other writings from that time period.
During the course of the episode we talk about what is known about the Hermetic philosophical tradition, and how it relates to the technical tradition of astrology that arose during the same time period.
Sam is the author of a series on Hermeticism on his website, which I would recommend checking out for more information on this topic:
Check out the podcast website for the audio version of this episode and transcript:
Videos: Justin Sledge & Chris Brennan
different intro on ESOTERICA ch. (Sledge) vs. The Astrology Podcase ch (Brennan). See my recent pages for details.
Books
Hermetic Spirituality and the Historical Imagination: Altered States of Knowledge in Late Antiquity (Wouter Hanegraaff, 2022)
Hermetic Spirituality and the Historical Imagination: Altered States of Knowledge in Late Antiquity (Hanegraaff)
Wouter “Star Destroyer” Hanegraaff
Darth Hanegraaff’s Alderaanization of the Fixed Stars
Hellenistic Astrology: The Study of Fate and Fortune (Chris Brennan, 2017)
https://www.hellenisticastrology.com/book/
Hellenistic Astrology: The Study of Fate and Fortune
Chris Brennan, 2017
https://www.amazon.com/Hellenistic-Astrology-Study-Fate-Fortune/dp/0998588903/ —
“Hellenistic astrology is a tradition of horoscopic astrology that was practiced in the Mediterranean region from approximately the first century BCE until the seventh century CE.
“It is the source of many of the modern traditions of astrology that still flourish around the world today, although it is only recently that many of the surviving texts of this tradition have become available again for astrologers to study.
Hellenistic Astrology: The Study of Fate and Fortune is the first comprehensive survey of this tradition in modern times. The book covers the history, philosophy, and techniques of ancient astrology, with a special focus on demonstrating how many of the fundamental concepts underlying the practice of western astrology originated during the Hellenistic period.”
Cosmology in Antiquity (Rosemary Wright, 1995)
Ordered yesterday, Apr. 4, 2025.
Cosmology in Antiquity
Rosemary Wright, 1995
Part of: Sciences of Antiquity (9 books)
“Examines the cosmological theories of the `natural philosophers’ from Thales, Anaximander and Anaximenes to Plato, the Stoics and the NeoPlatonists. Also discusses and emphasizes the importance of Babylonian and Egyptian forerunners.”
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0415121833
Ancient Astrology (Barton, 1994)
https://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Astrology-Sciences-Antiquity-Tamysn/dp/0415110297/ —
Cited in The Entheogen Theory of Religion and Ego Death (Hoffman, 2007 main article))
it is in the same series as the book that I just ordered.
http://egodeath.com/EntheogenTheoryOfReligion.htm
Paul and the Stoics
pub’d 2000, ordered April 2001 just before starting Egodeath Yahoo Group
Paul and the Stoics
Troels Engberg-Pedersen, 2000
“This book seeks to do for the study of Paul and Stoicism what E. P. Sanders did for Paul and Judaism. Instead of making a brick-by-brick analysis, Troels Engberg Pedersen provides the first comprehensive building-to-building comparison of how the two religious/philosophical systems functioned. The book moves through the major letters of Paul (e.g., Philippians, Galatians, and Romans), carefully documenting Paul’s indebtedness to Stoic thought.”
x https://www.amazon.com/Paul-Stoics-Troels-Engberg-Pedersen/dp/066422234X/ —
Scholars to Pin Down and Interrogate to Force them to Address their Shared, Incoherent Blind Spot
Chris Brennan
Christian Bull
the other guy (not Bull) Wouter Hanegraaff cites a lot
Justin Sledge
Paul Davidson
David Litwa
Wouter Hanegraaff
Adam Elenbaas
Wikipedia
Wiki: Celestial Spheres
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celestial_spheres —
“The planetary spheres were arranged outwards from the spherical, stationary Earth at the centre of the universe in this order: the spheres of the Moon [sphere 1], Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn [sphere 7].
“The planetary spheres were followed by the stellar sphere containing the fixed stars [sphere 8];
“other scholars added a ninth sphere [sphere 9] to account for the precession of the equinoxes, [apparently named “the pleroma”]
David Ulansey’s The Eighth Gate: The Mithraic Lion-Headed Figure and the Platonic World-Soul, http://www.mysterium.com/eighthgate.html
du8th
David Ulansey’s Mithras and the Hypercosmic Sun, http://www.mysterium.com/hypercosmic.html
duhyp
“a tenth [sphere 10] to account for the supposed trepidation of the equinoxes,
“and even an eleventh [sphere 11] to account for the changing obliquity of the ecliptic.”
Motivation for this Page
Astral ascent mysticism is POTENTIALLY a concrete, specific, model for mental model transformation, Psilocybin transformation, mental model transformation from possibilism to eternalism.
mental model transformation from naive possibilism-thinking to integrated possibilism/eternalism thinking.
- naive possibilism-thinking ; basic possibilism-thinking
- basic eternalism-thinking
- integrated possibilism/eternalism thinking
Excellent description of the 3 Guys image!
The psychedelics coaches are right: “The super important integration phase; phase 3″; Prep; Session; Integrate. eg
- Before the session, have only possibilism-thinking.
- During the session, have eternalism-thinking.
- After the session, have integrated possibilism/eternalism thinking.
The 3 Tiers of Astral Ascent Mysticism When Done Right: Sphere 8; Spheres 7-, and Spheres 9+
The astral ascent mysticism model, as I developed it for the Egodeath theory, is potentially concrete and useful as a model of the mind’s trajectory of Psilocybin transformation, because of the 3 tiers:
Sphere 8
Sphere 8: Sphere 8 sphere of the fixed stars is central; is it cognizance of eternalism. In the 8th Psilocybin session, attain full comprehension of Fatedness.
Spheres 7-
Spheres 7-: Below/ before sphere 8 is naive possibilism-thinking.
In the first 7 Psilocybin sessions, increase from 1/8 to 7/8 comprehension of Fatedness/ eternalism.
Sphere 9+
Spheres 9+: Above/after sphere 8 is hyper-eternalism, ie qualified possibilism-thinking; the mature compatibilism, the best form of compatibilism: in a way, in a sense, the mind transcends eternalism (heimarmene, no-free-will; Fatedness).
In the 9th & later Psilocybin sessions, a mature balance combination of asserting that eternalism —
4D spacetime block universe eternalism
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I finally defined this string / phrase / keyboard shortcut 11:20 am Apr. 5, 2025. How did I not define this string in June 2001? then i would have written:
“4D spacetime block universe determinism”
3 Guys: Possibilism; Eternalism; Possibilism+Eternalism
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https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f134.item.zoom#
Official gallery location:
https://egodeaththeory.org/2022/07/19/psalter-rows/#Row-2-Right-3-Guys
basic possibilism-thinking
bpt
(naive possibilism-thinking) or can refer to the possibilism-thinking component within mature hyper-eternalism thinking.
basic eternalism-thinking
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qualified possibilism-thinking
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need a term for the mature combination compat’m of possibilism + eternalism
integrated possibilism + eternalism thinking; mature possibilism+eternalism ; rider on donkey following path; adult over child; Abr over Isaac at altar. the best version of compatibilism.
qualified possibilism-thinking <– fails to mention hyper-eternalism.
hyper-eternalism <– fails to honor preservation and use always of qualified possibilism-thinking.
mature integrated possibilism-thinking + eternalism-thinking
integrated possibilism eternalism
possibilism + eternalism thinking
possibilism + eternalism
the Egodeath theory of mature integration of possibilism + eternalism
you end up with … GREEDY MARKETING: OUR PRODUCT GIVES YOU BOTH POSSIBILISM AND ETERNALISM
voice rec’g
voice recordings TK_VOX_6374.wav and probably 6373.wav, Apr 4, 2025:
mental model transformation from
mental model transformation from possibilism to eternalism is well pictured as “cut the branch”; to keep but change the foundation of the mental model that has branching, you cut the branching mental model and assert non-branching ie assert that the hidden foundation of the branching mental model (possibilism) is the non-branching underlying reality; ie eternalism. cut the branching model ; cut the branching possibilism model , affirm the non-branching, eternalism model.
copy to here the recent , from idea development p 26 or maybe 27, the text chat posts summarizing … composed & sent last Sat 7 days before Apr 5 2025.
last night voice recording finally captured page content for page about “how branching & non branching perfectly (ade’ly) depict the two mental models mmctpb control time possy branching
mental model of control, time, and possibility branching
mmctpb
mmctp
mental model of control and possibility
mmcp
mental model of control and possibility branching
mmcpb
This phrase would connect the cybernetic theory (core Egodeath theory) & art motifs in mushroom-trees genre.
the mushroom-trees art genre, which combines {mushrooms}, {branching}, {handedness}, and {stability} motifs
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mtgm
mushroom-trees genre
mtg
mental model of time, self, and control
mmtsc
mental model of time, self, control, and possibility
mmtscp
4D block universe
fbu
4D spacetime
fds
In videos and books about Fate and ancient cosmology, I continue consistently seeing the same irrational and inconsistent and frustrating– they keep doing this illogical self-contradictory move:
- The cosmos means planetary spheres 1-7. [silent about fixed stars]
- Sphere 8 is outside the cosmos, and so, is outside of fate.
- Fixed stars are sphere 8. The fixed stars are fate.
- The soul rises above fate by rising aboe the fate ruled cosmos, above level sphere 7. the soul is higher than fate by reaching sphere 8.
- Which sphere is the demiurge at? 8
ALL of the scholars do this same irrational, incoherent, self-contradiction, without acknowledging this basic silence and basic major inconsistency.
GET YOUR DAMN STORY STRAIGHT!
OR AT LEAST, ADMIT YOU ARE GIVING THE AUDIENCE DIRECTLY SELF-CONTRADICTORY NARRATIVE COMPONENTS.
Titles of this Page
Basic Key Cosmology Questions: Does “the Fate-Ruled Cosmos” Include Sphere 8 (the Sphere of the Fixed Stars), or Not?
Key Cosmology Questions for Astral Ascent Mysticism Centered Around Eternalism:
Does “the Fate-Ruled Cosmos” Include the Sphere of the Fixed Stars, or Not?!
See Also
dead end fate
The Egodeath theory 