Contents:
Kafei
Illusion of movement:
Determinism, what Plato called “the moving image of eternity,” is the illusion of time and space.
As Max Freakout described it: as a holographic illusion that’s created within the block universe.
Determinism refers to the illusion of movement in matter.
Kafei
Determinism within eternalism:
I see determinism within the model of eternalism.
Kafei
Experiencing the block universe:
The mystic state is a direct experience of the block universe.
The mind fuses with the block universe; the mind becomes “the All”, becomes the block universe.
There is no time to unfold, because everything is occurring at once, simultaneously.
That’s the vision inside the experience.
When you return to the baseline of consciousness, you return to space and time, the egoic illusion.
You still have in your memory banks, the vision of where that ego death happened, where there was no longer an ego but there was still awareness there.
It’s that awareness that you could recall from your memory banks.
Kafei
Max Freakout
Moderate entheogen theory as peak self-contradiction:
But the more that Ruck pushes in that direction of broadening the scope of where you can identify entheogens, the more that his overall picture starts to look like a blatant self-contradiction, because what he’s saying is:
Absolutely everybody everywhere knew about entheogens and was tripping, but it was all kept secret – it was all a secret, and nobody really knew about it.
But you know, which one of those is true?
Max Freakout, Transcendent Knowledge Podcast, episode 3, 57:00
Totally not mystics: 👽
The three of us are not mystics.
People who are not mystics, are the people to whom the Egodeath theory is relevant.
We are not mystics here.
We are not mystics; we are not in that special class of people.
We are not mystics; why would we be so interested in a theory about people who we are never going to be like, who we can never know what it’s like to be those people?
I’m not going to comment on whether I’m a mystic, or an aspiring mystic, or a non-mystic.
Max Freakout, Transcendent Knowledge Podcast, episode 26
Cyberdisciple
Control vortex:
Martin Ball’s going to inevitably run into the Egodeath theory. And in a way, he probably already has; Ball talks about ‘the shadow’, or something like that, this kind of New-Agey term: but, that is the problem; the threat of ego death looming, in the altered state.
We can help show – in addition to the critique of Pop Sike, make it constructive and show them how they can move closer to the Egodeath theory, why the Egodeath theory is a more attractive option than their current paradigms, intellectually speaking: just for coherence; and, for providing the fullest model of what goes on in the altered state.
Because that’s really what draws us, what has drawn us to it; there’s nothing that really compares to the depth of explanation; that actually, pushing through towards the ego death, and not trying to skate around the outside and use the sacrament for some other purpose.
Cyberdisciple, Transcendent Knowledge Podcast, episode 3 (19:00)
Cybermonk
Theory vs. adherents:
My followers are taking something that is the epitome of simple and clear, and then they’re applying their big-brain analysis to it; and quickly, by the time they touch it, they leave it a smoking complicated ruin and wreck, that’s all complicated and broken, and the opposite of what it is.
Cybermonk, the very beginning of episode 1 of the Egodeath Mystery Show (“2-Level Egodeath Model.mp3″)
You have to fact-check everything I say:
Everything I say in my recordings is tentative and needs a fact-check.
The book “The Illusion of Will, Self, and Time” is claiming that William James made a death-bed retraction, and that he approved the block universe on his death bed – something along those lines.
Like all of my bogus voice recordings, you’ll have to fact-check everything I say. The feeling I have is correct, even if my statements are completely false.
Cybermonk, “Two Models of Control.mp3”, 56:30, 59:50
Facts:
I don’t know this for a fact.
But who cares? We don’t expect me to say facts.
I have transcended mere facts.
Cybermonk, Egodeath Mystery Show 2021-02-04b, 2:14:33
The Egodeath theory 
No no. The Egodeath Theory cannot be broken. There is no chisel, hammer or bulldozer strong enough to break the Egodeath Theory. For it is made from the power of the Holy Spirit, each word, each and every word annointed and sealed. by the hands of God with the heat from his eternal flame.
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They don’t know, so they don’t think that they left it in ruins. They will come back and fix things. Give them time…I get it now….
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Your voice recordings aren’t bogus. They’re wonderful. It is so good to hear and be able to put a voice to the words.
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I will always think that the mystic altered state in early times grew to contain an aspect of secrecy, even though not due to free access of entheogens.
I think this because of the nature of people in the ordinary world and how easily the mystic altered state can become abused when carried back into the ordinary state of consciousness to be used as a tool for political exploitation.
So it isn’t at all the entheogen that has been the problem, but rather the potential for abuse through power.
And although this thought cannot be proven, it becomes clearer when the psychedelic is seen as innocent, and instead focus is placed onto the nature of people.
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