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Egodeath Mystery Show episode 211 – Entheogens Reveal Heimarmene in the Ogdoad (August 16, 2022)

Wouter Hanegraaff’s wastebasket of rejected knowledge:

🗑 OMG IT’S FULL OF STARS!! 🌌

I just recorded (Ep211 start) a really great analysis of how we need to embrace, include, and THEN transcend no free will, fatedness, heimarmene, that which Erik Davis’ book Led Zeppelin IV reports on page 118-119 & 122. Enlightenment is of no free will personal noncontrol or helpless dependence on the uncontrollable source of our control thinking

The Religious Texts Filtering Effect

Texts that are honest about Fate don’t get preserved; the texts that survive are exercises in having it both ways, obfuscationism to compromise between admitting no-free-will while asserting religious revelation while preserving – above all – egoic freewill-premised autonomous personal control power.

You have to assert the no-free-will truth while also appearing to assert its incompatible opposite: autonomous egoic culpability.

p280, Hermetic Spirituality, Hanegraaff argues “when the body dissolves, nous leaves soul to be judged, therefore, freewill is real”

me: in loosecog state, freewill-premised thinking is tested/ demonstrated/ disproved/ jusdged as incoherent and unstable and nonreasoning like animals/ children, therefore no-free-will”

anyway all of this employment of the words ‘body matters soul spirit’

it’s nothing but a giant shell game

you can’t fool me with evasive foolish perpetual motion machines & vague linguistic magic

I’m not gonna take seriously these language games of redefinition

we have three different definitions of soul

and 2 1/2 different definitions of ‘body’

and then hermes and Hanegraaff say there’s a spiritual body which is not subject to fate unlike the lower body which is

this is just a big bluff

you need to answer the damn question:

is the local control agent the source of its control thoughts?

the answer is no

this is revealed in the Psilocybin State

no matter how much you try to swing around and throw an obvious skate[?] with three different definitions of the word body

this is just games of language Obfuscation the trickery and magic cheap magic tricks redefining words

‘soul spirit I’

I am so sick of “explanations” that are pseudo-explanations that are crafted to be based in poetry ambiguity

we need a different lexicon, a lexicon that is designed to be unambiguous, not your lexicon, your bunk lexicon that is specifically designed to be as ambiguous as possible

I have zero interest in discussing body

I have zero interest in discussing soul

answer the damn question :

the local control agent is the source of its own control thoughts – true or false?

These abstract semantic abstractions that are designed to cloud the issue and hide and avoid looking at and avoid discussing the actual crux questions, instituting[?] by low grade analogies of low value substituting very distant analogies that are designed to be indirect and roundabout and give lots of opportunities for ego to hide in the shadows of semantic tricks, trickery and deception, misleading magic cheap magic tricks

I am God and I lift 1,000,000 pounds – all you have to do is merely redefine the meaning of words, such as the word “soul”, “body”, ‘Entheogens’ to mean its exact opposite

Congratulations you’ve won $$$&*

*simply redefine ‘you, won, & $’

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ‘SOUL’ UNLESS YOU DEFINE IT EXPLICITLY IN TERMS OF LOCAL CONTROL AGENCY

but your mystic poetry fog-blanket strategy is to avoid exactly that –

it is no coincidence that right at the most important points is where they use the language in the most unclear and waffling way , and suddenly pull out of their hat the claim all of a sudden, oh didn’t you know? –

there’s actually two different souls

is the spirit body

and the body soul

and then there’s the body spirit (lower & higher)

and we can just make up , multiply as needed as many made up terms, pulled out of our as- our magic hat, so that we can assert and deny no free will all at the same time, and then claim “it’s your fault for not understanding” our obfuscation torrent of dust clouds that we have raised to cover the fact and hide what we are actually doing

sick of vague terms used figuratively: “Only the spiritual body soul is subject to fate, but the higher soul body spirit is independent of fate”

what the fck are you saying

this is deliberately unclear wording

this is the deliberate employment and strategic leveraging of language that’s designed to promise big marketing promises and appease peoples’ wishful thinking – it’s all about avoiding communication

it’s a deliberate project of deliberately unclear communication, by leveraging inherently vague deliberately evasive ambiguous terms that shirk and avoid the relevant questions

it’s all a whole giant lexicon for the purpose of avoiding the question

it’s an avoidance strategy, all these vague re-definitions of ambiguous terms, which are employed and used and chosen and selected specifically because they can be used to deceive and double talk and pretend to say one thing while really believing something else,

to try to cast a spell with language trickery instead of doing what science does, which is make a sincere effort to be clear

this is why people love to talk on and on and write thousands of books saying how words cannot describe spiritual realization

what they really mean is that:

This goes along way towards explaining why doesn’t western esotericism come up with a clear explanation of transcendent knowledge?

We don’t like what’s revealed, so we’re going to obfuscate and hide it underneath thickets of obfuscation, because we don’t want to admit no free will, so we’re in a gigantic project

it’s a gigantic avoidance project of flirting with Transcendent Knowledge while trying to cover it up and deny it at the same time

Religion is a gigantic project of trying to sustain ego free willpower

that’s what reformed theology is

the main message of reformed systematic theology is this:

Freewill is the case and personal moral responsibility is the case

– even though we are going to simultaneously claim that we are righteously asserting God’s sovereignty and omnipotence

but our MAIN message and motive remains: prop up free will ego power moral culpability

reformed theology is a gigantic project of pretending to harmonize to incompatible assertions in order to prop up egoic free will power

reformed theology pretends to be asserting no free will

if you dare to assert honest clear language and say that “God is the author of evil” then you’re accused of being a hyper Calvinist and you need to get back in line asserting our double talk obfuscationist lying pretense which is all serving the Atman project purpose of asserting and propping up the pretense of ego work free will power

the project of theology and esotericism overall is to have it both ways, of trying to combine the lie of free will power with the truth of revealed no free will omnipotence of God

the whole thing is a project of trying to sneak the devil into heaven

Psilocybin Reveals Heimarmene in the Ogdoad

Actual entheogens are that which is effective at revealing who sits on the throne in level 8 – Hanegraaff says that’s the demiurge

and I remind him: the demiurge is identical with heimarmene; he is the ruler over the planet heimarmene rulers

the ruler over heimarmene

the ruler over the planetary rulers which he says in his book

Entheogens Reveal Heimarmene in the Ogdoad

Entheogens are that which Reveals Heimarmene in the Ogdoad

Hanegraaff, after rebirth from cosmic level 7, arriving up in the 8th cosmic level:

“At last, I have escaped the power of the fate-ruled seven stars, with their daimonic controllers! 😈 “

The Demiurge 👹 to Hanegraaff:

“Welcome, please enjoy the view – billions of stars!”

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Dr H:

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A healthy attitude towards entheogens is a healthy attitude towards block universe determinism not the repression anti-cosmic attitude which is precisely the true reference of anti-Cosmic

the anti-cosmic attitude is precisely the mind’s innate anti-Fate attitude

if you are anti-fate, then by definition your anti-cosmos; you are a caricature of the Gnostic anti-cosmos attitude

Are gnostics anti-cosmos?

translation: are gnostics anti-Fate?

Hanegraaff are you anti-Fate? anti-Heimarmene? if so, then you are anti-cosmos! in the quintessential way.

you are anti-body

you’re anti-nature

you’re anti-matter

because all of those are poetry ambiguity that is trying to hide the fact that what we’re really talking about is not the body; we are really talking about Fate; no-free-will, block-universe determinism; the local control agent has no control over its uncontrollable source of control-thoughts

we’re not talking about your attitude against the cosmos; we are talking actually about your attitude against fate

review title:

Entheogens Reveal Heimarmene in the Ogdoad

Designed to make professor H shake in his shoes

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psilocybin causes reveals and causes the correct effective kind of transcending of no free will/ heimarmene.

whatever he does in his poetry-based Esotericism-based reading his interpretation of exercising the demons the demons , whatever it is he’s doing in his value system that he reveals, it is telling and it is revealing that he removes the very stars from the heavens

he would pull down the constellations and remove the zodiac from the heavenly sphere from the eighth level sphere

of a round sphere the fact that

he even re-defined the word stars to eliminate the billions of stars and only leave us with only seven stars – the moving stars; the planets

this shows that he has an anti-Kosmik anti-matter anti-body anti-nature attitude

that he is repressing suppressing and dissociating from

he claims to be pro body he claims to integrate the body integrate nature integrate matter integrate matter in a healthy positive way with a positive mental attitude , but except for , he demonizes and he throws into trash rejected stars

let us look inside the Hanegraaff and trashcan of rejected things what has he placed in the 🗑<–🌌

what has Professor H placed into his own trashcan of rejected things

oh look here it is the stars

he has taken the zodiac he has taken the constellations he has taken the fixed stars, pulled them down out of the heavens and thrown them into his Rejected trashcan, because he knows, as he has said, they equal no free will, they equal determinism

note: voice dictation recognizes the word determinism , it does not recognize heimarmene

he tries to throw block universe determinism, which is the thing that is revealed by psilocybin

what is it that is revealed by psilocybin what do entheogens reveal?

they reveal precisely specifically block universe determinism

and he throws that in the trashcan of rejected things

he always talks about what other people have put what they put in their trashcan of rejected things

he says that scientific history must not make these value judgments but must accurately report the values and beliefs of people throughout history, but scientific history should not be driven by making value judgments about theology matters matters of theology matters of religious truth

it is not the business of academic scientific history department to make judgments about religious theology truth and merit based on assumptions about esoteric truth

we should be unbiased scientific researchers accurately reporting

He does not mean to say that it is bad to try to understand higher meaning

he is just saying that we should not make poetry ambiguity and ineffability the foundation of our scientific history study of the history of religions

and he himself has been misled because of the negative attitude and the ironic inversion of values which the poets who wrote the Hermetic texts, they write in a confusing way, because they themselves do in fact reject the cosmos, despite his book

his book asserts that gnostics are not world hating, but the problem is the entire world of late antiquity was world hating

that is to say let us get to the real point in the true referent

all of late antiquity had a bad negative attitude towards block universe determinism

And this comes forward in their negative values that they place on fate

the claim that gnostics held anti-fatism must be stopped, it is a malicious caricature??

gnostics were NOT anti-fate as academics (crypto protestant apologists) assert??

they had an unhealthy negative attitude to block universe determinism because the entire culture of late antiquity had revealed through Psilocybin block universe determinism , and they didn’t like it , and so everybody in the culture had a negative attitude towards block universe determinism

and this comes forward in the poetry ambiguity hazy false marketing and confusing poetry the Theurgy Hermetic Texts exude a bad attitude towards block universe determinism

and so it is no wonder the Hanegraaff while lecturing us about that we need to have a positive mental attitude about the body and nature and matter and the world the physical world

yet at the same time he follows the bad attitude that the Hermetic Texts exude and

he demonizes and throws into his rejected garbage can,

what does he place there?

he places the fixed stars the zodiac constellations, because as he says those are block universe determinism – fate

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The whole of late antiquity was anti-FATE negative attitude

and he has picked this up and he prevents us from transcending no-free-will, because he refuses to embrace and include and transcend no free will

he refuses to affirm and sacrifice to block universe determinism

and he persists in having a negative attitude, which he picked up from the gnostics, and he picked it up from the theurgists, because they picked it up from the entire world of late antiquity

STOP HATING ON HEIMARMENE/ Eternalism; this is ANTI-COSMISM!

so he might try to make up excuses and say oh I don’t I’m not demonizing who me?

demonizing fate?

I would never demonize fate

he might try to argue but we have to look at his attitude does he or how far is he from having the right attitude what would be involved in correcting his bad attitude towards fate

when we take the difficult concept of what is the correct mixture of plus and minus attitudes when it comes to transcending the child or transcending something that’s revealed that we have mixed feelings

looked at Ken Wilber look to Ken Wilber what does it mean to transcend something

does it mean to destroy it ?

what exactly is the proper healthy attitude in order to transcend fate block universe determinism

and what exact specific attitude does Professor H demonstrate in his book

and what is the correct mixture of plus and minus attitudes that he needs to have and that we need to have

so his book raises the most important question:

what is the correct mix of attitudes when we talk about transcending block universe determinism

how far is his book from that

and we all need to come to grips with how do we have the correct feeling what is to be the correct

what must be our correct and healthy attitude I am an advocate of health and I am an advocate of the truth and I am an advocate of the truth about block universe determinism as the path to a healthy mental attitude

please explain the details of this and how unhealthy his professor H book in its treatment and trashcan rejection

he throws block universe determinism into the trashcan of rejected things even going so far

feeling

does it mean to destroy it

what exactly is the proper healthy attitude in order to transcend fate block universe determinism and what exact specific attitude does Professor H demonstrate in his book and what is the correct mixture of plus and minus attitudes that he needs to have and that we need to have

so his book raises the most important question what is the correct mix of attitudes when we talk about transcending block universe determinism how far is his book from that and we all need to come to grips with how do we have the correct feeling what is to be the correct feeling

He throws block universe determinism into the trashcan of rejected things even going so far as to remove the very stars from the sky to get rid of himourmoney from his precious level eight

I am an advocate of health

I am advocate of mental health

I am an attitude I am a proponent of positive mental attitude and mental health regarding block universe determinism

we must accommodate block universe determinism

we must embrace and include it and transcend it and affirm it

we must sacrifice to block universe determinism we must worship the serpent carved in rock the snake God must smoke the ego in sacrifice poetry haze of ambiguity evasion tactics go up in smoke incense psychoactive smoke

Representing the smoke of the false attitudes and negative attitudes must go up in smoke like the smuggling van made of cannabis

I am an advocate of the healthy mental positive attitude towards embracing and including and also transcending block universe determinism

how far where does Hannah Graff go wrong in his mixture of attitudes

he is entirely negative regarding fate fate

I can’t speak to his attitude about fate

does he have a healthy relationship with fate

does he embrace and include it or does he try to throw it in the rejected trashcan, the professor H trashcan of rejected things where he represses fate and suppresses fate and is dissociated from fate

I am a fervent proponent of healthy effective integration and transcending of fate

“embrace, include and then transcend” – do not repress and simply throw Fate in that rejected wastebasket as professor H tends to do

and he needs to make corrections on his positive and negative attitudes and demonization or shall I say in fake affectation like he writes his demonization of fate

“daimonization of fate” 😈😇