Mycologists, Find Cubensis in England and Europe, Make It Happen, You Gotta Want It

Michael Hoffman, 6 pm Jan. 11, 2025

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Contents:

• Intro, Motivation for this Page
• Mycologists, Find Cubensis in England and Europe
• Gartz And Stamets Never Trouble Themselves to Bother Writing “No Cubensis in Europe”
  • Gartz and Stamets Couldn’t Care Less, Couldn’t Put any Less Effort, into Thinking About, Writing About, or Trying to Look for, Cubensis in Europe
• Gartz p. 70: Cubensis vs. European Mushrooms
• Gartz p. 80: Cubensis Not in Hawaii
• Scholars’ “Ritual“, “Cultic Practices” of Projecting Their Own Bunk Anthropology Theory Overlays onto Simple, Plain Ingestion of Psychedelics
• Gartz page 81: Ingesting Cubensis Is Either Recreational, or a Ritual Practice of Natural Mysticism
• Gartz p. 84: re: Australia
• Gartz p. 85: We Discovered What Was in Front of Our Eyes
• Gartz p. 96: Cubensis Is Heavily Present in the 30th Parallel, and Totally Absent from the 31st Parallel
  • Cubensis Can Grow in England, as Surely as Meditation, Drumming, Dancing, and Breathing Can Cause the Same Effects as Two Bowls of Psilocybin
  • Cubensis Never Grows Above 30th Parallel North (Gartz), Except in the Southeast (Stamets)
• Everyone Knows There’s No Cubensis in Europe
• Make It Happen
  • You Gotta Want It
  • Put in Some Fkkin EFFORT
  • Act Like You give a Sh*t!
  • You Gotta Believe
• Cubensis Traders
• Egodeath Theory Holy Days
  • January 11 is Block Universe Determinism Loose Cognition Day
    • 37th anniversary of the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence
• Visionary/Supernatural Book by Graham Hancock, Asserting Psilocybin in Ancient Europe, Against Committed Skeptic Bahn
• See Also
  • Gartz Book: Magic Mushrooms Around the World: A scientific Journey Across Cultures and Time: The Case for Challenging Research and Value Systems (1996)
  • Stamets Book: Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World: An Identification Guide (1996)

Intro, Motivation for this Page

This page is to focus my ideas and put the challenge prominently out there: for the first time, people ought to TRY to START to LOOK FOR and GIVE A SH*T about the question of Cubensis in Europe.

Mycologists, Find Cubensis in England and Europe

Prophecy: Entheogen scholarship will retract the claim per Gartz that Cubensis isn’t a European mushroom.

Gartz And Stamets Never Trouble Themselves to Bother Writing “No Cubensis in Europe”

It’s just roundabout, coming down to 4 careless words as an unthinking aside from Stamets, “Not known in Spain”.

Gartz discusses Cubensis cultivation, then says “now let’s talk about European mushrooms” – he gives no direct negative statement.

It’s a SILENT given that Cubensis is “not a European mushroom”.

Gartz and Stamets Couldn’t Care Less, Couldn’t Put any Less Effort, into Thinking About, Writing About, or Trying to Look for, Cubensis in Europe

Stamets and Gartz in their prominent books do not write an explicit sentence saying “No Cubensis in Europe pastures.”

They do not actually treat the question of whether there were Cubensis in Europe.

Everything is indirect, roundabout, implicit, just like:

• Everyone knows meditation is drug-free.
• Everyone knows that the traditional methods of the mystics are indeterminate but certainly definitely not drugs.
  • We don’t understand mystics or mystical experiencing at all, because we are too smart and mentally psychologically modern and evolved.
  • We know with certainty that the traditional methods of the mystics are non-drug.
• Everyone knows there’s no Psilocybin use in Mexico; we’ve known this fact since 1915.

And so, given these facts and givens, the question everyone always asks is “Can Psilocybin simulate the traditional methods of the mystics?”

At least Safford — superior to Gartz and Stamets — actually directly explicitly writes about MAKING AN EFFORT TO LOOK (for Psilocybin usage in Mexico in 1915).

Gartz and Stamets make no effort to look or even think about Cubensis in Europe – it’s all just silently taken for granted.

Gartz p. 70: Cubensis vs. European Mushrooms

Page 70 of Gartz’ Magic Mushrooms book: after a discussion of Cubensis cultivation, writes “I have also succeeded at cultivating the European hallucinogenic mushroom species.”

Gartz p. 80: Cubensis Not in Hawaii

Page 80: “Even though one often hears about “Hawaiian strains” of Psilocybe cubensis, the species is not native to The Islands and should grow there only under conditions of artificial cultivation.”

Scholars’ “Ritual“, “Cultic Practices” of Projecting Their Own Bunk Anthropology Theory Overlays onto Simple, Plain Ingestion of Psychedelics

Gartz page 81: Ingesting Cubensis Is Either Recreational, or a Ritual Practice of Natural Mysticism

“Even though the extent of prosecution of drug law violators in Canada and the U.S. varies … Psilocybe cubensis is common across the South,”

“the South” apparently here means the South part of U.S.

If Cubensis is common in the South part of U.S. per Gartz 1996, this is tantamount to Cubensis being native to Europe.

The demand created by this growing market is probably being met through
cultivation of Psilocybe cubensis.

“These users ingest psychotropic mushrooms as a form of recreation, or incorporate them inthe ritual practice of [BULLSH*T! STOP ADDING WORDS YOU MADE UP!] natural mysticism.

“Other users prefer mushrooms as an aid to meditation or to attain communication with the realm of the divine.”

Just like Stamets, nowhere does it ever occur to Gartz to state the false statement, “No Cube in Europe.” Like Stamets’ flimsy, careless, little 4-word treatment: “Not known in Spain.”

Gartz p. 84: re: Australia

“In 1958, Aberdeen and Jones described the geographic distribution of Psilocybe cubensis across the southeastern valleys of Queensland and New South Wales. [Australia]

“They speculated that this was the mushroom responsible for the cases of intoxication, not the Panaeolus species.

. . . . 🔍🧐🤔

“In addition, the Psilocybe species had been described as being much more common in the area.

“Under wet climate conditions, the Psilocybe species can be found growing in abundance on cattle dung, especially along the sunshine coast of Queensland, in the open valleys around Brisbane and in areas that used to be rain forests, but have now been transformed into pastures.”

“In the summer of 1969, a 4,000-hectareregion near the coast of Queensland gained notoriety because of its Psilocybe cubensis crop that grew there after the rainy season.

“Interested collectors flocked to the area in droves.

“Media reports at the time gave the impression that the mushrooms were an entirely new discovery, completely disregarding Central American traditions.”

What are you talking about? Every mycologist has known since 1915, there’s no Psilocybin use in Mesoamerica. An Aztec Narcotic (Safford 1915)

“In the wake of an above-average rainy season, the species fruited so abundantly that special transportation companies were founded for delivery of the mushrooms to Australia’s large cities.”

Gartz p. 85: We Discovered What Was in Front of Our Eyes

“those interested in mycological field research continued to study Psilocybe
subaeruginosa and even discovered the species in the northern part of the country.”

I’m getting no indications that I should be skeptical about “discovering” Cubensis in England pastures – “discovering” means “stop squeezing your eyes tightly shut.”

Gartz p. 96: Cubensis Is Heavily Present in the 30th Parallel, and Totally Absent from the 31st Parallel

“Given sufficiently wet climate conditions, Psilocybe cubensis can often be found in other parts of the world growing on pastures in areas located up to 30° north as well as south of the equator.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30th_parallel_north

Paul Stamets says Cubensis grows in Southeastern U.S. That’s above the 30th parallel/ line, immediately contradicting and calling into doubt Gartz’ self-assured “30th parallel” upper limit, for which he says “often”.

Stamets says Cubensis grows ABOVE the 30th parallel, contradicting Gartz. Neither of them writes more than a couple words about this topic:

They do not find Cubensis BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WANT TO FIND CUBENSIS.

Would it kill you to put a tiny bit of EFFORT and TRY?

Where is Gartz’ writeup, like Samorini re: Lib Cap distribution research in Italy, of Gartz’ systematic intent effort to find Cube in Europe?

He made no such effort, did no such investigation, can’t be bothered to include a section in his book explaining why Cubensis is never found in Europe.

Gartz and Stamets can’t even be bothered to write a sentence explicitly saying “No Cubensis in Europe pastures.”

Cubensis Can Grow in England, as Surely as Meditation, Drumming, Dancing, and Breathing Can Cause the Same Effects as Two Bowls of Psilocybin

I assume Cubensis in 51st parallel (Canterbury England) even if not as “often”.

“Often” often means nothing, like hitting your head “can” cause Psilocybin effects – a worthless empty tin “can”.

Cubensis Never Grows Above 30th Parallel North (Gartz), Except in the Southeast (Stamets)

Canterbury, south part of England, approx 53rd parallel north:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/53rd_parallel_north

Canterbury, south part of England, approx 51st parallel north:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/51st_parallel_north – about the same as Northern U.S. border. Does Cubensis grow South Canada pastures? A GUY RECENTLY TOLD ME OF A TRADITION OF GATHERING CUBENSIS NORTH OF U.S. OR SOUTH OF CANADA.

UK England Kent: 51.28°N 1.08°E
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canterbury

“Therefore, it is likely that the yellow Stropharia species from the Highlands of Kenya may actually have been Psilocybe cubensis mushrooms or at least a close relative of this species.

“In January 1994, M. Smith and myself were collaborating in South Africa, where we discovered a bluing Psilocybe species in Natal Province.

“It was the first psychotropic Psilocybe species ever found in the area.”

Everyone Knows There’s No Cubensis in Europe

Everyone knows there’s no Psilocybin use in Mexico.

Everyone knows there’s no Liberty Caps in European antiquity.

Everyone knows there’s no mushroom imagery in Christian art.

Everyone knows there’s no Cubensis in England.

Prejudice, presupposition, negative attitude, negative, defeatist expections, unthinking meme propagation, urban myths, groupthink.

Make It Happen

The diamond hammer of interpretation:

Carl Jung first commits to his forced overlay interpretation and then presents myth through that filter.

I first commit to psychedelic eternalism, assuming it to be the case, and then commit and force the data to match the theory – give it a good full college try.

Only AFTER a full vigorous attempt fails to pan out, only then, back off. (But not even then.)

You Gotta Want It

Put in Some Fkkin EFFORT

Act Like You give a Sh*t!

You Gotta Believe

Status quo normal state for me: Everyone says “not X”, but I say “X”; you’re all wrong.

I’m a committed anti-skeptic, a committed Believer.

I’m a believer,
I ain’t no deceiver,
Mountains move before my eyes,
Destiny planned out,
I don’t need a hand out,
Speculation of the wise.

– Bob Daisley, sung by Ozzy Osbourne, 1981

Cubensis Traders

Medieval art shows:

• blue stems.
• king trading to gather blue round produce.
• collecting behind cattle.
• blue mushrooms.

Egodeath Theory Holy Days

January 11 is Block Universe Determinism Loose Cognition Day

37th anniversary of the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence

Today is Jan. 11, 2025.

Jan. 11, 1988 — Block Universe Loose Cog day – 2025-1988 =
37-year anniversary of breakthrough birth day of the Egodeath theory; the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence.

Visionary/Supernatural Book by Graham Hancock, Asserting Psilocybin in Ancient Europe, Against Committed Skeptic Bahn

I recently (like Dec. 31, 2024) wrote about pages 187-192 in Visionary (a superset of the book Supernatural) by Graham Hancock.
Page: Idea Development 22.
Sections:

• Hancock Visionary pp. 18
• My Good Choice of Panaeolus as Pilzbaum #1 in “Creation of Plants”
• Hancock Visionary/Supernatural: Bahn Says “No Liberty Caps in Europe”
• Parallels between the “mushrooms in Christian art” dispute and Hancock’s entheogens dispute

See Also

Site Map > Entheogen scholarship > Recomm. for the field

Gartz Book: Magic Mushrooms Around the World: A scientific Journey Across Cultures and Time: The Case for Challenging Research and Value Systems (1996)

Magic Mushrooms Around the World: A scientific Journey Across Cultures and Time: The Case for Challenging Research and Value Systems
Jochen Gartz. 1996 German, 1997 English.
https://www.amazon.com/Magic-Mushrooms-Around-World-Challenging/dp/0965339904/

Stamets Book: Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World: An Identification Guide (1996)

Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World: An Identification Guide
Paul Stamets (1996)
https://www.amazon.com/Psilocybin-Mushrooms-World-Identification-Guide/dp/0898158397/