Egodeath Mystery Show Ep255 Demonstrating Stable vs. Unstable Control (April 25, 2023)

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“Ep255 Demonstrating Stable vs. Unstable Control”

The original 3-hour mp3 seems too big to transfer to & play on my device. It started transferring to my device, then quit, which I haven’t seen before. The v2 shorter separate .mp3 files loaded ok.

How to Listen in Browser instead of Downloading

Features are not always available at WeTransfer site.

Preview at WeTransfer site – that worked. I was able to listen to the entire 3-hour .mp3 in-browser, or for my v2, the 3 separate shorter files (parts a, b, & G).

On mobile device, I clicked a Download link, a confirmation dialog opened having View and Download links; I clicked View.

In desktop browser, at WeTransfer site, click Preview. Can play any of the 3 .mps files in the browser.

Had to Break Up into Two .mp3 Files

I MIGHT CUT IT IN TWO [done]

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Collideascope
Everything looks topsy turvy
You will see one young girl split into two
One half who’s false, one half true
You better get your glue ready

Dukes of Stratosphear

url https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HG4AYPmI6k

Contents/Timestamps

This episode contains some of the discussion of “loss of control” ie control re-stabilization I’ve been looking for. Find: “Gold Clip”; 4 identified below.

Segments About Control Re-Stabilization (Gold Clips)

To extract to a Gold Clips Special Episode of Egodeath Mystery Show:

Ep255a 28:59-34:25 (5:26)

Ep255a 45:46-47:07 (1:21)

Ep255a 48:36-1:01:38 (13:02)

E255b 11:23-1:14:11 (end) (62:48)

“Ep255a Demonstrating Stable vs. Unstable Control”

The first recording (5123.wav) is from April 24, 2023. The remainder are April 25, 2023.

0:00 – Intro (moved from start of 5154.wav, the next day).

0:25 – 5123.wav

10:00 –

This dynamic is a blind spot, article is good so I’m obliged to give advice, act pompous not the reverse affectation of over-modest posturing. at (17:49 orig.) — “clever question: is Amanita a suggestogen?”

20:00 –

(~21:00 in orig. rec.g) I have no idea of which writing is Ruck’s vs. Heinrich’s, b/c they are hiding in the Ruck committee.

Does Irvin now in 2022 say that Amanita or “the mushroom” causes religious experience like he cites p 152 of The Holy Mushroom?

“Closely guarded secret.” <– WAY overplayed, played out.

What I think about Irvin 2008.

This morning I discovered that Irvin 2008 writes “we are going to discuss ALL entheogens – until he hits the Psilocybin references by Allegro.

Gold Clip 1: Control Re-Stabilization – Ep255a 28:59-34:25

~29:00-34:00, also ~46:00-__

28:59 (in 5123.wav): “Now back to the real topic to avoid: the main topic to avoid is: i like that … Why does salvation occur at exact moment you discover fatal control instability? It’s a single body of knowledge.

Why the new model of control arrives right when the old model fails: because the mind systemically learns to demonstrate the different stability that’s caused by asserting the two contrasting mental worldmodels.

30:00 –

(~37:00 in orig rec’g) — Shifting weight from autonomous control to 2-level dependent control, you study the branching model, alongside non-branching model.

Jesus contrasting finger-shapes; higher knowledge is of [branching contrasted with non-branching], more detailed representation than “knowledge of non-branching”.

It is equivalent to {pass through the guarded gate} in any direction: Rev 22 (last page of the Bible): you become able to go {in/out/up/down through the guarded gate} “into” the city of God.
(40:00 in orig rec’g)

34:25 – end of stability discussion.

end of that Control-Stability Segment

40:00 –

My “branching-message mushroom trees” article requires extra points to be made at the Conclusions section, to provide leadership.
(41:00 in orig. rec’g)

Do not write “mushrooms” or “psychedelics” or “entheogens”. Write “Amanita” or “Psilocybin” specifically.

How to express that in fewest word count:

“Conclusions:
Don’t write ‘entheogens’, ‘psychedelics’, or ‘mushrooms’; write ‘psilocybin’ or ‘Amanita’.”

— that wording consumes just 10 words, in my article’s wordcount.
(43:00 in orig. rec’g)

Amanita is the smiling face of Psilocybin prohibition (46:00 in orig. rec’g).

CUT AFTER; quiet talking (audible) at desk as i edit pages.

(53:00) — voice comes back close, added … word prohibition list. word prohibition schedules.

(56:40) — throw taboo question at academic, iq 200 –> 50, prohibition-caused retardation.

uses bunk lexicon obfuscation dirty term’y.

position on psychedelics, superstitious crude simple minded folk =

allegro.

baby talk “simple minded, the mushroom”.

Interesting mistake by me: I say that Allegro is writing about “red and white” mushrooms — but surprisingly, days later, I realized John Allegro is actually talking about psilocybin mushrooms.

This is probably surprising or disappointing to Jan Irvin, too.

I mis-say “red and white shapes”. But Allegro here means psil, surprising Irvin, the Way of Wasson = the Way of the Obfuscationist.

and now Irvin writes this way.

“Shifting” the Goalpost — by Flipping the Entire Stadium & Universe Repeatedly: The Motte-and-Bailey Fallacy

Shifting the goalpost is always a different, extreme fallacy: Flipping the univrse 180 deg 59:40.

What’s the name of this jumbo-sized “shifting the goalpost” fallacy? — Cyberdisciple provided the answer in a Comment below:

The Motte-and-Bailey Fallacy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy

Make an aggressive and hard-to-defend claim.
When challenged, lie and pretend you made a modest, easily defensible (modest/ worthless/ trivial) claim.
When possible, switch back to the aggressive and hard-to-defend claim.
Repeat.

Big claim: No one in Europe ever thought of psychoactive mushrooms.

Tiny claim: There’s no evidence for a secret heretical underground counterculture cult sect fringe rites rituals tradition that started with a secret Amanita cult in the Ural mountains and then spread around the world, that’s the foundation of all religions.
(Therefore, we know that no one ever ingested psychoactive mushrooms in Europe.)

The Way of STEM.

Gold Clip 2: Control Re-Stabilization – Ep255a 45:46-47:07

Clip 2 About Control Re-Stabilization

45:46 – (the very end of my trimmed 5123.wav) – We study and learn both mental models together: The branching instability model contrasted with the non-branching stability model.

46:00 – 5137.wav – Intro.

Show Intro (dark/dry).

April 25, 2023

46:19 – 5137.wav – Miking: ev 635A

Miking: dark dry/ 1″ ultra-close mono mic: 635a stand mount – demonstrates why 8″ instead is the standard.

46:31 – 5137.wav – Content.

Advanced idea dev session. This is advanced idea development in control re-stabilization. Great phrase.

/ end of topic

47:07 – Prohibited Word List.

Wow, this is where I go to finally retrieve the book yet again, now specifically to read the opening statement of page 31 of Jan Irvin’s book The Holy Mushroom about scope! Amanita madness. “The holy mushroom, Amanita.”

Here’s where I really make the connection.

/h

Gold Clip 3: Control Re-Stabilization – Ep255a 48:36-1:01:38

48:36 – 5146.wav Fatal loss of control = non-viable control = control instability. Sacrifice of the cybernetic control agent. Your life as a childish agent comes to a real end.

mute-gate echo gtr at start.

Ego death is a real death, Eadwine depicts it as such.

50:00 –

1:00:00 –

End of topic: 1:01:38

end of clip

1:01:38 – single-plant fallacy.

1:02:25 – mapping the concretistic physical amanita lifecycle & usage cycle production process to the cognitive transformation mental worldmodel transformation.

How is their poor argument (90% unstated bias that he unthinkingly assumes the audience shares) supposed to constitute an argument?

“Too many mushrooms” Panofsky blurts out his “argument” – Wasson censors it, so bad.

1:05:01 – Entheogen scholars didn’t give a DAMN about the hundreds of mushroom trees that Panofsky announced. They only have their ONE tree, our fly-agaric fresco.

Dancing man Salamander roasting image as treated in THM

reading THM: Caduuceus overuse. The poor “symbols” approach. Salamander roasting image. Dancing man. The intensive anti-psilocybin bias in THM gallery 2008. The Holy Mushroom.

1:10:00 –

1:14:44 – 5150.wav – core concept catalog. say psilocybin. Ergot = classic.

Self-control instaibilty terms: what am I reading here? reading key phrases.

Overemphaisis on Amanita vs. Ergot. Both hypotheses failed. Entheogen scholarship wrote up tons of promises, and then Ergot failed, and Amanita failed to … PALED next to Psilocybin. Yes a total bias against Psilocybin in Europe remained, in entheogen scholarship.

1:20:00 –

“All entheogens” in THM actually means Amanita only.

1:30:00 –

Cubensis grows on bovine dung.

Irvin’s misuse of griffiths ‘ Psil findings in the Amanita book THM.

1:35:00 – Gordon “Blunder” Wasson. Looked up definition of ‘blunder’. blunder made by Wasson: Allowed us to read the two letters by Panofsky.

1:40:00 –

1:41:54 – End of Ep255a.

“Ep255b Demonstrating Stable vs. Unstable Control”

0:00 – 5154.wav Intro (1:41:32 in orig single long mp3) – 5154.wav

Intro for Egodeath Mystery Show (bright stereo room mics). April 25, 2023.

0:25 – 5154.wav Content

advanced session.

STEM math.

Letheby’s irrelevant Physicalism vs Fatalistic Detm concepts are Possibilism-thinking.

8:08 – 5137.wav Intro (borrowed from Ep255a)

8:26 – 5137.wav Miking (borrowed from Ep255a)

8:38 – 5156.wav Content (dark mic) 1:49:16

Show. gtr intro. too long quiet between pulses after echos died off. Core Concepts Catalog, psil-based cybics testing.

Advantage of saying “Psilocybin” not the ergot word(s)

Erik Davis: “Keep Ergot Weird”, now that Big Pharma therapy industry has “ruined psilocybin by taking it away from the counterculture”.

10:00 –

11:00 – Irvin dead show.

/h

Gold Clip 4: Cybernetic Non-Control: E255b 11:23-1:14:11 (end)

11:23 – (in 5152.wav produced) Cybernetic Non-control

20:00 –

22:48 – 5157.wav Content – 2:03:27

A king is a virtual control source . Covering/ extending to you.

Reading aloud.

30:00 –

40:00 –

49:35 – the field of entheogen scholarship must die and be reborn in its adult mature form.

50:00 – continue reading aloud long passages from my articles: the Control Loss section of my 1997 & 2006 main articles.

1:00:00 –

1:00:19 – 5159.wav Content 2:40:57

Running amok. That can’t be right, would lead to self-destruction. Continue reading my 1997 or 2006 article’s sections about control stability. Egodeath.com page about demonstrating safely the transformation of control.

How could Abraham live to inherit?

Reading Egodeath.com page about formal loss of control demonstration.

Egoically acting out egoic loss of control.

This rec’g 5159 is part of a series; see also my reading aloud my 2007 and 1997 main articles sections: readings of selections too, in VOX_TK_5387.wav (not produced yet). See below.

1:10:00 –

1:14:11 – Outro (edmsEchoConst) 2:54:49

1:14:27 – End of part Ep225b.

Ep255G – Guitar (5 min.) only; sep. mp3 file

0:00 – tbd

5:00 – End.

In old long mp3, guitar started at 2:55:01 – Guitar segments (5 min.) 5123.wav excerpt snippets: two, short.

Notes About Recording 5387.wav (not part of this Episode)

VOX_TK_5387.wav – 1:45:00 – Egodeath Mystery Show.

Rumored to have no guitar; easy to produce.

May 5, 2023 – Selected readings from control-loss 1997 & 2007 article sections (Egodeath.com reading: recording 5159.wav above) about transcendent restabilizing of control.

Guitar at end.

(There’s a missing period in 1997 article near “thrown off-balance”.)

Stable self-control. My “thrown off-balance” 1997 wording = Eadwine 1200.

In 1997 article: I wrote like: “Can stabilize by looking away stop apprehension?”
That’s stupid wording/thinking of me. (check quote)

Fate, Heimarmene.

Great Canterbury Psalter image f134 row 2 middle: woman holding a scale balance with left heel on {stable column base}.

I posted about this yesterday, with fresh crops, June 3, 2023: https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2023/06/02/egodeath-mystery-show-ep250-all-entheogens-means-amanita-only-april-24-2023/) and I put the crops properly in the f134 gallery page:

https://egodeaththeory.wordpress.com/2022/07/19/psalter-rows/#Scale-Balance-Woman — copied to below:

Row 2 middle: Scale Balance Woman

Crop by Cybermonk
“Canterbury-f134-row-2-middle-scale-balance-woman.jpg” [10:14 a.m. June 3, 2023]
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f134.item.zoom#

She (awkwardly therefore deliberately) points with right ear at happy cybercide guy.

On the right side of her column are the cubensis dispensary display cases.

Row 2 middle: Scale Balance & Cubensis Dispensary

Crop by Cybermonk
“Canterbury-f134-row-2-middle-balance-bins.jpg” 688 KB [10:52 a.m. June 3, 2023]
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f134.item.zoom#

Crop by Cybermonk
“Canterbury-f134-row-2-middle-balance-bins.jpg” 688 KB [10:52 a.m. June 3, 2023]
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10551125c/f134.item.zoom#

Control seizure.

Good mix of reading and commentary/critique of my writing.

A mode of stability.

The other stable col base to the left has upside down cybercide guy on a differnet basis.

Right vs. left foot in the OSC or ASC.

Cybercide = demonstrating conditional control stability, OSC ordinary-state possibilism-thinking = Left limb, and stable control = {touching the blade to the left limb}.

We are stable by repudiation of the branching world-model, which gives stable control (right foot down).

Touching blade with left limb and touching cut right trunk with right limb, that is stability. <– guy in tree upside down.

Row 2 cybercide guy: right limb touching column base, blade touching his left limb –> stable.

Have stability of control because touching blade with left limb = asserting non-branching (right foot) .

At 44:30 in this recording, I switch from reading the 1997 to 2007 article excerpts.

The section “Self control and the hidden source of control-thoughts”… headings 2007 in the 4th , Cybernetics section.

I read most of this ultimate quarter of the 2007 article.

My main articles need (lack) coverage of branching – a missing theme that fits right in, for closure/ completion of the Core theory; the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence and its later, mytheme/motif theory of lyrics & myth & art motifs: the Mytheme theory.

Myth is depiction via analogy of transformation from possibilism to eternalism.

Myth depicts psychedelic eternalism.

Religious myth (& art motifs) is description of psychedelic eternalism.

Lyrics, myth, & motifs are description of psychedelic eternalism.

Go through my 2007 article’s Bibliography, selected entires mentioned.

repudiate branching model of control-in-world = {touching blade to left limb}

asserting non-branching = {standing on right foot} = {right hand lower than left}

Control is stable in the psilocybin altered state IF you use the non-branching model and actively repudiate the branching model of control-in-world.

Equivalent:
negate branching
assert non-branching

Equivalent:
negate left
assert right

stability
vs.
instability

Art themes: {mushrooms}, {branching}, {handedness}, and {stability} motifs.

In the simplified, 2-phase model of mental transformation in the religious altered state: transformation from possibilism to eternalism:

Phase 1:
assert branching
assert left
gives instability

Phase 2:
negate branching; assert non-branching
assert right
gives stability

Tech Notes

Miking

When noisy room, used ev 635a 1″ (dark/dry).

When quiet room, used usual previous setup: AT2020 L, CAD M39 R.

More info: “Recordings Log Egodeath Mystery Show.md”

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